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1TB Seagate 7200.11 SATA-300 drive $130 USB2/eSATA Icydock MB559US-1SMB enclosure $45 after MIR Peace of mind knowing key data is backed up offline, priceless! =) DHSinclair wrote: Thank you Greg. Kind of terse, but I do fully comprehend your points. So far, my data loss will be any/all digital pixs I took post 03/07 and some archived dot-pdf files that support my home care equipment. Suspect that I can probably find most of this again. I never attempted to use the RAID of the server as a substitute for proper backup policy. It just turned out the my server did have the largest available free space (23GB). OK, shame on me. I do try to backup to available space wherever available on my LAN clients until I can get a NAS operational. snip
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I use JungleDisk and Amazon S3 for my personal offsite backup. I know it's not completely bulletproof, but for a couple bucks a month it's well worth it for the 10 GB of data I really, really care about. -- Brian On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 2:50 PM, maccrawj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1TB Seagate 7200.11 SATA-300 drive $130 USB2/eSATA Icydock MB559US-1SMB enclosure $45 after MIR Peace of mind knowing key data is backed up offline, priceless! =) DHSinclair wrote: Thank you Greg. Kind of terse, but I do fully comprehend your points. So far, my data loss will be any/all digital pixs I took post 03/07 and some archived dot-pdf files that support my home care equipment. Suspect that I can probably find most of this again. I never attempted to use the RAID of the server as a substitute for proper backup policy. It just turned out the my server did have the largest available free space (23GB). OK, shame on me. I do try to backup to available space wherever available on my LAN clients until I can get a NAS operational. snip
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I can understand why this works for the general public who doesn't understand domains, ftp etc. But why is that a better deal for you then just buying a domain name from Goddady for 7-10 bucks a year and then having a free 10GB website that you can ftp into, and then upload your backup in an encrypted zip file ? At 11:53 AM 9/29/2008, you wrote: I use JungleDisk and Amazon S3 for my personal offsite backup. I know it's not completely bulletproof, but for a couple bucks a month it's well worth it for the 10 GB of data I really, really care about. -- Brian On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 2:50 PM, maccrawj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1TB Seagate 7200.11 SATA-300 drive $130 USB2/eSATA Icydock MB559US-1SMB enclosure $45 after MIR Peace of mind knowing key data is backed up offline, priceless! =) DHSinclair wrote: Thank you Greg. Kind of terse, but I do fully comprehend your points. So far, my data loss will be any/all digital pixs I took post 03/07 and some archived dot-pdf files that support my home care equipment. Suspect that I can probably find most of this again. I never attempted to use the RAID of the server as a substitute for proper backup policy. It just turned out the my server did have the largest available free space (23GB). OK, shame on me. I do try to backup to available space wherever available on my LAN clients until I can get a NAS operational. snip
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Thank you J., I will now go look at this. Like Seagate. But J. I still have not moved fully to WXP(oh, bad me!) I still wonder about USB. If this is your prescription, fine. It will take some time for me to get to some XP basline. I will look more into this. Why should I upgrade a working LAN client's OS to WXP just because it now runs w2K? Personally, I do not care what the server's OS ends up at!!! I am willing to migrate... :) Yes, I am still multi-tasking the current hd failure. Perhaps bad. I am very thick-headed! But, at my LAN, I feel I need to evaluate more options. Thank you, Duncan At 11:50 09/29/2008 -0700, you wrote: 1TB Seagate 7200.11 SATA-300 drive $130 USB2/eSATA Icydock MB559US-1SMB enclosure $45 after MIR Peace of mind knowing key data is backed up offline, priceless! =) snip
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Many providers will cancel you for that, being as that it's a breach of their TOS. They make their money on oversubscribing disk. If you come along and break their business model with 10gb of data that's not web accessible for their $10/yr plan they will shut you down. Winterlight wrote: I can understand why this works for the general public who doesn't understand domains, ftp etc. But why is that a better deal for you then just buying a domain name from Goddady for 7-10 bucks a year and then having a free 10GB website that you can ftp into, and then upload your backup in an encrypted zip file ?
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As a guy who understands ftp and hand codes his website, I can tell you that JungleDisk + Amazon S3 is just damn easy for everyone, not just users. First off, it's plenty secure. Everything can be done over SSL. And you set the password on your end and so all Amazon sees is random noise being uploaded and the password is never stores on their site (only clientside). Second, it's very good at only uploading the changes so you don't have to do the full 10GB or whatever every time Third, you schedule it to do the backup easily and automatically. And you can do multiple jobs with multiple sets of files and schedules. Fourth, it can do revision control for the files you backup with you controlling which file sizes are included and how many old copies to keep. Fifth, they have clients for Windows, Mac and Linux and USB keys which seamlessly integrates the S3 drive through WebDav to your file explorer allowing you to browse it and copy/delete files. So you can have access to all your files from whatever computer you are using with web access. Awesome for travelling. Need I go on? -- Brian On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Winterlight [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I can understand why this works for the general public who doesn't understand domains, ftp etc. But why is that a better deal for you then just buying a domain name from Goddady for 7-10 bucks a year and then having a free 10GB website that you can ftp into, and then upload your backup in an encrypted zip file ? At 11:53 AM 9/29/2008, you wrote: I use JungleDisk and Amazon S3 for my personal offsite backup. I know it's not completely bulletproof, but for a couple bucks a month it's well worth it for the 10 GB of data I really, really care about. -- Brian On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 2:50 PM, maccrawj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1TB Seagate 7200.11 SATA-300 drive $130 USB2/eSATA Icydock MB559US-1SMB enclosure $45 after MIR Peace of mind knowing key data is backed up offline, priceless! =) DHSinclair wrote: Thank you Greg. Kind of terse, but I do fully comprehend your points. So far, my data loss will be any/all digital pixs I took post 03/07 and some archived dot-pdf files that support my home care equipment. Suspect that I can probably find most of this again. I never attempted to use the RAID of the server as a substitute for proper backup policy. It just turned out the my server did have the largest available free space (23GB). OK, shame on me. I do try to backup to available space wherever available on my LAN clients until I can get a NAS operational. snip
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Thank you Brian, It now seems that we do/approve of online storage. I will search and investigate this. I do know that many of this Lists' members have learned/done this. I salute this! You folks may be the true pioneers in this high-speed data stream. Off-LAN storage is not a critical topic ATM. I do get the future plans idea. I can admit that speeds/abilities/capabilities have gotten the best of me. OK. I have decided that I have ONE bad drive in the RAID. I still believe that my Adaptec ?3200S is still fully operational. But, I have other back-channel conversation working on this one Yes Greg, I do NOT completely comprehend a RAID. Thought I did. But, ATM, I do not. Thank you, Brian. Duncan At 14:53 09/29/2008 -0400, you wrote: I use JungleDisk and Amazon S3 for my personal offsite backup. I know it's not completely bulletproof, but for a couple bucks a month it's well worth it for the 10 GB of data I really, really care about. -- Brian On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 2:50 PM, maccrawj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1TB Seagate 7200.11 SATA-300 drive $130 USB2/eSATA Icydock MB559US-1SMB enclosure $45 after MIR Peace of mind knowing key data is backed up offline, priceless! =) DHSinclair wrote: Thank you Greg. Kind of terse, but I do fully comprehend your points. So far, my data loss will be any/all digital pixs I took post 03/07 and some archived dot-pdf files that support my home care equipment. Suspect that I can probably find most of this again. I never attempted to use the RAID of the server as a substitute for proper backup policy. It just turned out the my server did have the largest available free space (23GB). OK, shame on me. I do try to backup to available space wherever available on my LAN clients until I can get a NAS operational. snip
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Online storage is just part of the overall backup solution. I of course have my own personal backups at home with redundant HDs. But that's of no use against things like floods or house fires. So the really critical data is backed up to a third-party offsite location where I may not be able to access it 24/7/365 but it will still be there barring the end of the world or a major bankruptcy. Either of which might actually be possible after the last week on Wall Street :) -- Brian On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 3:30 PM, DHSinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you Brian, It now seems that we do/approve of online storage. I will search and investigate this. I do know that many of this Lists' members have learned/done this. I salute this! You folks may be the true pioneers in this high-speed data stream. Off-LAN storage is not a critical topic ATM. I do get the future plans idea. I can admit that speeds/abilities/capabilities have gotten the best of me. OK. I have decided that I have ONE bad drive in the RAID. I still believe that my Adaptec ?3200S is still fully operational. But, I have other back-channel conversation working on this one Yes Greg, I do NOT completely comprehend a RAID. Thought I did. But, ATM, I do not. Thank you, Brian. Duncan At 14:53 09/29/2008 -0400, you wrote: I use JungleDisk and Amazon S3 for my personal offsite backup. I know it's not completely bulletproof, but for a couple bucks a month it's well worth it for the 10 GB of data I really, really care about. -- Brian On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 2:50 PM, maccrawj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1TB Seagate 7200.11 SATA-300 drive $130 USB2/eSATA Icydock MB559US-1SMB enclosure $45 after MIR Peace of mind knowing key data is backed up offline, priceless! =) DHSinclair wrote: Thank you Greg. Kind of terse, but I do fully comprehend your points. So far, my data loss will be any/all digital pixs I took post 03/07 and some archived dot-pdf files that support my home care equipment. Suspect that I can probably find most of this again. I never attempted to use the RAID of the server as a substitute for proper backup policy. It just turned out the my server did have the largest available free space (23GB). OK, shame on me. I do try to backup to available space wherever available on my LAN clients until I can get a NAS operational. snip
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WinterLight, That is a really great question. I suppose you have been doing same for some years PAST with great (or grumbly) success. I still salute this. I never felt comfortable with the entire concept (at the time, or still.) OK. Now it is now. I do comprehend what you suggest. Time for change! Get IT! Still a bit Tin-Hat about the World Wide Waste! After this fix, trust me(!), I will step into the world of the globally in-franchised. I just sorta thought I could still manage business right here at the home 20. Shame on me. Matrox Forever! Thank you. Duncan At 12:00 09/29/2008 -0700, you wrote: I can understand why this works for the general public who doesn't understand domains, ftp etc. But why is that a better deal for you then just buying a domain name from Goddady for 7-10 bucks a year and then having a free 10GB website that you can ftp into, and then upload your backup in an encrypted zip file ? At 11:53 AM 9/29/2008, you wrote: I use JungleDisk and Amazon S3 for my personal offsite backup. I know it's not completely bulletproof, but for a couple bucks a month it's well worth it for the 10 GB of data I really, really care about. -- Brian On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 2:50 PM, maccrawj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1TB Seagate 7200.11 SATA-300 drive $130 USB2/eSATA Icydock MB559US-1SMB enclosure $45 after MIR Peace of mind knowing key data is backed up offline, priceless! =) DHSinclair wrote: Thank you Greg. Kind of terse, but I do fully comprehend your points. So far, my data loss will be any/all digital pixs I took post 03/07 and some archived dot-pdf files that support my home care equipment. Suspect that I can probably find most of this again. I never attempted to use the RAID of the server as a substitute for proper backup policy. It just turned out the my server did have the largest available free space (23GB). OK, shame on me. I do try to backup to available space wherever available on my LAN clients until I can get a NAS operational. snip
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Thank you Ben, I have seen this many times. No harm, no foul on how anybody else on the List chooses to use the infrastructure for whatever. I Am Not A Judge! I report only to ME and this LIST! Wow, that is short! But, I think I know where the gurus still hang out. Silly me perhaps. Duncan At 15:21 09/29/2008 -0400, you wrote: Many providers will cancel you for that, being as that it's a breach of their TOS. They make their money on oversubscribing disk. If you come along and break their business model with 10gb of data that's not web accessible for their $10/yr plan they will shut you down. Winterlight wrote: I can understand why this works for the general public who doesn't understand domains, ftp etc. But why is that a better deal for you then just buying a domain name from Goddady for 7-10 bucks a year and then having a free 10GB website that you can ftp into, and then upload your backup in an encrypted zip file ?
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At 12:21 PM 9/29/2008, you wrote: Many providers will cancel you for that, being as that it's a breach of their TOS. They make their money on oversubscribing disk. If you come along and break their business model with 10gb of data that's not web accessible for their $10/yr plan they will shut you down. You're right. I forgot about that ...they warned about that with my personal account a few years ago but for three to five years they never said a word. However, now we pay for a private server with Godaddy, so we get to make our own rules. Winterlight wrote: I can understand why this works for the general public who doesn't understand domains, ftp etc. But why is that a better deal for you then just buying a domain name from Goddady for 7-10 bucks a year and then having a free 10GB website that you can ftp into, and then upload your backup in an encrypted zip file ?
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At 12:29 PM 9/29/2008, you wrote: As a guy who understands ftp and hand codes his website, I can tell you that JungleDisk + Amazon S3 is just damn easy for everyone, not just users. what does that cost? First off, it's plenty secure. Everything can be done over SSL. And you set the password on your end and so all Amazon sees is random noise being uploaded and the password is never stores on their site (only clientside). Second, it's very good at only uploading the changes so you don't have to do the full 10GB or whatever every time Third, you schedule it to do the backup easily and automatically. And you can do multiple jobs with multiple sets of files and schedules. Fourth, it can do revision control for the files you backup with you controlling which file sizes are included and how many old copies to keep. Fifth, they have clients for Windows, Mac and Linux and USB keys which seamlessly integrates the S3 drive through WebDav to your file explorer allowing you to browse it and copy/delete files. So you can have access to all your files from whatever computer you are using with web access. Awesome for travelling. Need I go on? -- Brian On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Winterlight [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I can understand why this works for the general public who doesn't understand domains, ftp etc. But why is that a better deal for you then just buying a domain name from Goddady for 7-10 bucks a year and then having a free 10GB website that you can ftp into, and then upload your backup in an encrypted zip file ? At 11:53 AM 9/29/2008, you wrote: I use JungleDisk and Amazon S3 for my personal offsite backup. I know it's not completely bulletproof, but for a couple bucks a month it's well worth it for the 10 GB of data I really, really care about. -- Brian On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 2:50 PM, maccrawj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1TB Seagate 7200.11 SATA-300 drive $130 USB2/eSATA Icydock MB559US-1SMB enclosure $45 after MIR Peace of mind knowing key data is backed up offline, priceless! =) DHSinclair wrote: Thank you Greg. Kind of terse, but I do fully comprehend your points. So far, my data loss will be any/all digital pixs I took post 03/07 and some archived dot-pdf files that support my home care equipment. Suspect that I can probably find most of this again. I never attempted to use the RAID of the server as a substitute for proper backup policy. It just turned out the my server did have the largest available free space (23GB). OK, shame on me. I do try to backup to available space wherever available on my LAN clients until I can get a NAS operational. snip
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The longer you stick with using trailing edge hardware and software, the harder and harder it will be to support it. DHSinclair wrote: But, at my LAN, I feel I need to evaluate more options.
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Yes, Brian, You may need to go on. But, not ATM. I am still in a recovery stage. After this, I will get back to this. Right now, it appears to be a simple drive replacement. I will do this; and then come back... Then, I will find out whether the OS will play happy or not with my hdw. Otherwise, I get to start all over again. Been here. Done this. Not a catastrophe ATM. Secure, to me, is still a relative term. Very personal. What I belive to be secure is recorded on a FlashDrive and locked in my very heavy black box. The data on my now FUBAR'D server is just the data on my FUBAR'D server. Nothing more. Shame on me. This whole server business remains a learning project for me. At least from my viewpoint. Different strokes for different folks. I still have to get the basics of RAID down B4 I start putting my data out on the . JMHO. Duncan At 15:29 09/29/2008 -0400, you wrote: As a guy who understands ftp and hand codes his website, I can tell you that JungleDisk + Amazon S3 is just damn easy for everyone, not just users. First off, it's plenty secure. Everything can be done over SSL. And you set the password on your end and so all Amazon sees is random noise being uploaded and the password is never stores on their site (only clientside). Second, it's very good at only uploading the changes so you don't have to do the full 10GB or whatever every time Third, you schedule it to do the backup easily and automatically. And you can do multiple jobs with multiple sets of files and schedules. Fourth, it can do revision control for the files you backup with you controlling which file sizes are included and how many old copies to keep. Fifth, they have clients for Windows, Mac and Linux and USB keys which seamlessly integrates the S3 drive through WebDav to your file explorer allowing you to browse it and copy/delete files. So you can have access to all your files from whatever computer you are using with web access. Awesome for travelling. Need I go on? -- Brian On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 3:00 PM, Winterlight [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I can understand why this works for the general public who doesn't understand domains, ftp etc. But why is that a better deal for you then just buying a domain name from Goddady for 7-10 bucks a year and then having a free 10GB website that you can ftp into, and then upload your backup in an encrypted zip file ? At 11:53 AM 9/29/2008, you wrote: I use JungleDisk and Amazon S3 for my personal offsite backup. I know it's not completely bulletproof, but for a couple bucks a month it's well worth it for the 10 GB of data I really, really care about. -- Brian On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 2:50 PM, maccrawj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1TB Seagate 7200.11 SATA-300 drive $130 USB2/eSATA Icydock MB559US-1SMB enclosure $45 after MIR Peace of mind knowing key data is backed up offline, priceless! =) DHSinclair wrote: Thank you Greg. Kind of terse, but I do fully comprehend your points. So far, my data loss will be any/all digital pixs I took post 03/07 and some archived dot-pdf files that support my home care equipment. Suspect that I can probably find most of this again. I never attempted to use the RAID of the server as a substitute for proper backup policy. It just turned out the my server did have the largest available free space (23GB). OK, shame on me. I do try to backup to available space wherever available on my LAN clients until I can get a NAS operational. snip
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Ben, Thank you. This grumbly fact is generating a huge amount of angst at this address. I do get it. Really. I really do. Current problem is that ATM I can not afford W2K-Server 2006. $685.00 is not in the budget. ATM I have to recover the server I own w/the OS it thinks it may still be happy with and still try to run. Still learning. OK, I am an OS fan-boy. OH CRAP! I forgot your point about trailing edge hardware. Yes, I even fully see this also. As soon as I find just who is my banker, I will try and fix this small faux pau also. Please give me several months... :) IT IS SO HARD TO GIVE UP ON STUFF THAT STILL WORKS! I do get it. Really; now, I do! (i could hate technology; but i will not..I grew up in it.) Duncan At 15:26 09/29/2008 -0400, you wrote: The longer you stick with using trailing edge hardware and software, the harder and harder it will be to support it. DHSinclair wrote: But, at my LAN, I feel I need to evaluate more options.
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Brian, I live on Wall Street. 2me, it is the real world. Heck, somehow it is what drives the emotions on the this List. ATM, I am not concerned. Most of my trades were years ago. I survive now on a pension agreed to when I started being a Xeroid many years ago. At 60, I think I live OK; not rich, but, I get to watch my oak trees do their thing. Well, both you and I still wait to see the last week on the Wall. I do not think that will ever happen. Markets will drive the global marketplace. And, we will pay whatever the global marketplace decides we pay. ATM, I may need to go dig up some old gelt to continue to play. Duncan At 15:41 09/29/2008 -0400, you wrote: snip Either of which might actually be possible after the last week on Wall Street :) -- Brian On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 3:30 PM, DHSinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you Brian, It now seems that we do/approve of online storage. I will search and investigate this. I do know that many of this Lists' members have learned/done this. I salute this! You folks may be the true pioneers in this high-speed data stream. Off-LAN storage is not a critical topic ATM. I do get the future plans idea. I can admit that speeds/abilities/capabilities have gotten the best of me. OK. I have decided that I have ONE bad drive in the RAID. I still believe that my Adaptec ?3200S is still fully operational. But, I have other back-channel conversation working on this one Yes Greg, I do NOT completely comprehend a RAID. Thought I did. But, ATM, I do not. Thank you, Brian. Duncan At 14:53 09/29/2008 -0400, you wrote: I use JungleDisk and Amazon S3 for my personal offsite backup. I know it's not completely bulletproof, but for a couple bucks a month it's well worth it for the 10 GB of data I really, really care about. -- Brian On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 2:50 PM, maccrawj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1TB Seagate 7200.11 SATA-300 drive $130 USB2/eSATA Icydock MB559US-1SMB enclosure $45 after MIR Peace of mind knowing key data is backed up offline, priceless! =) DHSinclair wrote: Thank you Greg. Kind of terse, but I do fully comprehend your points. So far, my data loss will be any/all digital pixs I took post 03/07 and some archived dot-pdf files that support my home care equipment. Suspect that I can probably find most of this again. I never attempted to use the RAID of the server as a substitute for proper backup policy. It just turned out the my server did have the largest available free space (23GB). OK, shame on me. I do try to backup to available space wherever available on my LAN clients until I can get a NAS operational. snip
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I know about GoDaddy. The List documented this well enough. Slow. Concerned. Looking. Duncan At 12:47 09/29/2008 -0700, you wrote: At 12:21 PM 9/29/2008, you wrote: Many providers will cancel you for that, being as that it's a breach of their TOS. They make their money on oversubscribing disk. If you come along and break their business model with 10gb of data that's not web accessible for their $10/yr plan they will shut you down. You're right. I forgot about that ...they warned about that with my personal account a few years ago but for three to five years they never said a word. However, now we pay for a private server with Godaddy, so we get to make our own rules. Winterlight wrote: I can understand why this works for the general public who doesn't understand domains, ftp etc. But why is that a better deal for you then just buying a domain name from Goddady for 7-10 bucks a year and then having a free 10GB website that you can ftp into, and then upload your backup in an encrypted zip file ?
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I have my fair share of old hardware in use, so please don't think I'm coming down on you. What I was getting at is that as hardware and software ages, your resources (driver downloads, updates, etc.) and general pool of knowledge available to help answer questions shrinks. I had to install Win2k for some MS SQL server testing at work the other day. That was the first time in over 5 years that I had logged into a Win2k box. Troubleshooting it would be difficult for me given my rusty skills in that area. $700 is steep for Win2k3. You could get an Action Pack, which would get you Win2k3 (or Win2k8 now) as well as pretty much every other piece of software that Microsoft makes for much, much cheaper. The catch, it has to be for home/demonstration use, which would be perfect for what you're doing. http://www.petri.co.il/ms_action_pack_subscription.htm DHSinclair wrote: Ben, Thank you. This grumbly fact is generating a huge amount of angst at this address. I do get it. Really. I really do. Current problem is that ATM I can not afford W2K-Server 2006. $685.00 is not in the budget. ATM I have to recover the server I own w/the OS it thinks it may still be happy with and still try to run. Still learning. OK, I am an OS fan-boy. OH CRAP! I forgot your point about trailing edge hardware. Yes, I even fully see this also. As soon as I find just who is my banker, I will try and fix this small faux pau also. Please give me several months... :) IT IS SO HARD TO GIVE UP ON STUFF THAT STILL WORKS! I do get it. Really; now, I do! (i could hate technology; but i will not..I grew up in it.) Duncan
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I have zero idea what it may cost. I do not have a web site. I believe the this is the rage, but, I choose not to play. Yes, cost is, at this level, is a fair discussion. I get it. I am still at a hdw recovery level. Duncan At 12:50 09/29/2008 -0700, you wrote: At 12:29 PM 9/29/2008, you wrote: As a guy who understands ftp and hand codes his website, I can tell you that JungleDisk + Amazon S3 is just damn easy for everyone, not just users. what does that cost? snip
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-Original Message- From: Ben Ruset $700 is steep for Win2k3. You could get an Action Pack, which would get you Win2k3 (or Win2k8 now) as well as pretty much every other piece of software that Microsoft makes for much, much cheaper. The catch, it has to be for home/demonstration use, which would be perfect for what you're doing. http://www.petri.co.il/ms_action_pack_subscription.htm One point not mentioned at this website is that the $299 is a yearly subscription cost. Stop paying and you are expected to stop using. Just an FYI. Jim Maki [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Plus you will NOT get anything in the action pack as ancient as w2k, or maybe even xp now. Haven't subscribed for a couple of years now. fp At 06:51 PM 9/29/2008, James Maki Poked the stick with: -Original Message- From: Ben Ruset $700 is steep for Win2k3. You could get an Action Pack, which would get you Win2k3 (or Win2k8 now) as well as pretty much every other piece of software that Microsoft makes for much, much cheaper. The catch, it has to be for home/demonstration use, which would be perfect for what you're doing. http://www.petri.co.il/ms_action_pack_subscription.htm One point not mentioned at this website is that the $299 is a yearly subscription cost. Stop paying and you are expected to stop using. Just an FYI. Jim Maki [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Everyone meets their Waterloo at last.
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No need to change OS just to do this, though USB is supported by everything newer than Win98. If you install SATA controller, you can patch that out the back to eSATA which the enclosure also supports. USB2 just means you have options if need arises to plug into a non-SATA system. Further, these enclosures are the removable bay type so you could go with less space but more drives multiple trays. GB/$ wise HDD's are 1/2 the price of quality 4.35GB DVD-R's Looking forward to day when blueray is on par with DVD or better yet HDD cost per GB drives are cheap. DHSinclair wrote: Thank you J., I will now go look at this. Like Seagate. But J. I still have not moved fully to WXP(oh, bad me!) I still wonder about USB. If this is your prescription, fine. It will take some time for me to get to some XP basline. I will look more into this. Why should I upgrade a working LAN client's OS to WXP just because it now runs w2K? Personally, I do not care what the server's OS ends up at!!! I am willing to migrate... :) Yes, I am still multi-tasking the current hd failure. Perhaps bad. I am very thick-headed! But, at my LAN, I feel I need to evaluate more options. Thank you, Duncan At 11:50 09/29/2008 -0700, you wrote: 1TB Seagate 7200.11 SATA-300 drive $130 USB2/eSATA Icydock MB559US-1SMB enclosure $45 after MIR Peace of mind knowing key data is backed up offline, priceless! =) snip
[H] server died again #2
The server troubleshooting is on. I took the raid-cage loose from the server and found big time dust bunnies. Hmm. Seems I missed my June PM-another machine crash as my records show. Power on-goes to previously reported BSOD. OK, not dust bunnies. I then replaced the main scsi cable from the Adaptec controller to the raid-cage with a same-same cable removed from another working scsi client. Power on-goes to previously reported BSOD. Hmm.perhaps not the cable? I do not have a spare Adaptec 3200S. Not even sure if it is still available. Still confused by why Windows will not complete a boot w/raid in a degraded mode. So, I decide to try and boot using all combinations of 2 of the 3 drives. This appears to now point to a potential failed drive (0:5). This is my new failure matrix: Make drive 0:1 and 0:3 hot: server completes post, windows starts boot, displays the bottom screen ruler, W2K opening screen appears and the progress meter completes, screen then goes to the previously reported BSOD. Make drive 0:3 and 0:5 hot: server completes post, black screen w/ -Operating System not found. Make drive 0:1 and 0:5 hot: server completes post, black screen w/ -Operating System not found. I have even checked this logic letting the drives use my other two spare slots of 2 and 4. The results are the same. So I do think at least my raid cage is OK. Yes, the Adaptec controller could still be suspect. ATM, my conclusion is that the drive in position 0:5 is toast. Even though it spins up and appears to answer commands (yellow LED) along with the other two raid members. Drive 0:5's yellow LED only stops blinking once the Adaptec controller sets the alarm on. The windows boot continues to the eventual BSOD. I remain confused about why Windows will not complete a boot with a degraded raid as I've been told it should. Any ideas would be helpful. I am sure I followed all the proper steps when I rebuilt this server some time back. In the am I will begin the drive replacement business. Thank you for any suggestions. Duncan
Re: [H] server died again #2
Windows, or any other OS for that matter, will boot successfully from a degraded array. Windows itself has no knowledge of the array being optimal, degraded, or anything else--that's handled by the controller itself. The operating system doesn't even know anything about the individual disks attached, since again, it's all obfuscated by the controller's firmware. My guess is that your bad drive has been going bad for a while, and has caused some silent data corruption prior to fully kicking the bucket. Or, the card itself is bad. Or, the driver is causing some problems as it deals with/attempts to report the fault condition. RAID is never a substitute for good backup procedures. RAID does nothing more than increase availability (and performance, depending upon a number of factors). It's no data-protection cure-all, as your situation may ultimately reveal. Greg I remain confused about why Windows will not complete a boot with a degraded raid as I've been told it should. Any ideas would be helpful. I am sure I followed all the proper steps when I rebuilt this server some time back. In the am I will begin the drive replacement business. Thank you for any suggestions. Duncan
