Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: panorama making software for droid

[john doe]

ok ive ínstalled the app ill give you my opinion once i start usung it
properly are you guys planning on making a hugin droid vrsion

El 22/05/2011 08:47, "Bart van Andel"  escribió:

It's not a Hugin- or Panotools-related app, so I don't think we can answer
this properly. Why don't you just try it and report back here? It seems to
be free (at least for the non-Pro version).

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[hugin-ptx] panorama making software for droid

[john doe]

hey guys i found this droid software for making panoramas...i havent tested
it out yet but does it only make rectilinear views?

Photaf

https://market.android.com/details?id=obg1.Photaf

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: using hugin to compare and match digitized pictures in documents in legal documents

[john doe]

let me check, i will try an experiment in hugin and tell you about results,
are those software open source?

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Jeffrey Martin <360cit...@gmail.com>wrote:

> no. there are other tools for verifying if images have been manipulated,
> though. i don't know the names of the software though. did you try googling
> "image manipulation detection" or something?
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[hugin-ptx] using hugin to compare and match digitized pictures in documents in legal documents

[john doe]

hey people i had today the following idea is it possible to use hugin as an
open source software to compare and match features on documents with
images??that is for example IDS and any other legal documents where there
are pictures involved to prove that the pictures used are real or
manipulated?

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: glpano 0.1beta2 is out

[john doe]

other html5 panorama viewers:

http://www.cheetah3d.com/download/HTML5pano/index.html

<http://www.cheetah3d.com/download/HTML5pano/index.html>

On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:25 PM, john doe wrote:

> heres one i found:
>
> http://yuiblog.com/assets/slicing/vr_test.html
>
> <http://yuiblog.com/assets/slicing/vr_test.html>
>
> On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 1:10 PM, David Haberthür <
> david.haberth...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 15.04.2011, at 23:39, Erik Krause wrote:
>>
>> > Am 15.04.2011 19:10, schrieb David Haberthür:
>> >> I personally would love to have a(nother) HTML5 panorama viewer. The
>> >> one I found up to now "only" works on
>> >> iDevices:http://www.vrhabitat.com/
>> >
>> > -> http://fieldofview.github.com/PTViewerNG/
>>
>> I've seen that before, but it soesn't work in stock Safari on Mac OS X:
>> http://cl.ly/63ff
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: glpano 0.1beta2 is out

[john doe]

heres one i found:

http://yuiblog.com/assets/slicing/vr_test.html



On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 1:10 PM, David Haberthür  wrote:

>
> On 15.04.2011, at 23:39, Erik Krause wrote:
>
> > Am 15.04.2011 19:10, schrieb David Haberthür:
> >> I personally would love to have a(nother) HTML5 panorama viewer. The
> >> one I found up to now "only" works on
> >> iDevices:http://www.vrhabitat.com/
> >
> > -> http://fieldofview.github.com/PTViewerNG/
>
> I've seen that before, but it soesn't work in stock Safari on Mac OS X:
> http://cl.ly/63ff
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Windows 64 bit install errors

[john doe]

hey thanls for the reply, due to reasons that i cannot handle i need to use
windows pcs, I just downloaded hugin 64 bit version again and its installing
perfectly...

On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 6:25 AM, David Haberthür  wrote:

> Hey John
>
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 02:43, john doe  wrote:
> > link site:
> >
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/hugin/files/hugin/hugin-2010.4/HuginSetup_2010.4.0-64bit_Windows.exe/download
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 9:12 PM, john doe 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello, im trying to install the Windows 64 bit package downloaded from
> >> sourceforge and i get the following error:
> >>
> >> NSIS Error:
> >>
> >> Installer integrity check has failed. Common causes include incomplete
> >> download and damaged media. Contact the installers author to obtain a
> new
> >> copy.
> >>
> >> I will try to download the file again, but this is the message that
> popped
> >> up right now..
>
> It works for me with the link you provided, on Windows 7 Enterprise 64
> bit at work as you can see in the attached screenshot.
> Did you try to re-download the installer?
>
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[hugin-ptx] Re: Windows 64 bit install errors

[john doe]

link site:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/hugin/files/hugin/hugin-2010.4/HuginSetup_2010.4.0-64bit_Windows.exe/download

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 9:12 PM, john doe  wrote:

> Hello, im trying to install the Windows 64 bit package downloaded from
> sourceforge and i get the following error:
>
> NSIS Error:
>
> Installer integrity check has failed. Common causes include incomplete
> download and damaged media. Contact the installers author to obtain a new
> copy.
>
> I will try to download the file again, but this is the message that popped
> up right now..
>

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[hugin-ptx] Windows 64 bit install errors

[john doe]

Hello, im trying to install the Windows 64 bit package downloaded from
sourceforge and i get the following error:

NSIS Error:

Installer integrity check has failed. Common causes include incomplete
download and damaged media. Contact the installers author to obtain a new
copy.

I will try to download the file again, but this is the message that popped
up right now..

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Re: [hugin-ptx] How should the 'Grey picker' work?

[john doe]

whoa i mustve been using a really old version of hugin now what does this
gray picker do?

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> this is the first i've ever heard of a "grey picker".
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Panini-Video

[john doe]

tom this is very impressive!!keep up the goog work!

On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Daniel Reetz  wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Tom Sharpless 
> wrote:
> > I don't suppose you've been wondering what I've been up to for the
> > past 18 months, but...
>
> Stunning work, Tom, quite pleased to see it. Can't wait for the
> photo-correction tool.
>
> Daniel Reetz
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Region of Interest (ROI) for Control Point Finding/Image Alignment?

[john doe]

OpenCV can do this...

On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Yuval Levy  wrote:

> On February 12, 2011 10:38:15 pm Daniel Reetz wrote:
> > AFAIK, Hugin always searches the entire area of each image for control
> > points. I use Hugin for all kinds of image registration [1], and often
> > I would get much better results if I could specify a "region of
> > interest" where the CP generator could search.
>
> Or specify a "region of interest" and discard all CPs generated outside it.
>
>
> > Is this possible with the present version of Hugin? Is there a trick
> > to getting the Align Images step to search in a limited area in each
> > image?
>
>
> Not AFAIK, but there are some elements that can be "re-purposed" for your
> application.
>
> If I understand your application correctly, you would like to have CPs
> generated on the object to synthetically focus on.  You will need to mask
> that
> object in one way or another?  Hugin has a mask editor.  The one function
> that
> would need to be implemented to achieve your expeted result is pruning CPs
> that are outside (or inside) a selected mask.  Not excessively difficult to
> implement.
>
> There are other pruning mechanism within Hugin as well, but they may not be
> helpful in your case.
>
> Celeste prunes control points from the sky.  Initially we wanted to exclude
> the sky from the CP generation, but it turned out to be computationally
> more
> efficient to do it the other way around.
>
> "clean control points" (a button on the Images tab) prunes statistical
> outliers.  Must press the button a few times.  I found it to be excellent
> at
> removing CPs from moving subjects; and very good at removing CPs from
> foreground subjects (those pesky CPs that are more parallax-affected than
> the
> far away CPs).
>
>
> > Of course I can set CPs manually, but it's a lot of work.
>
> You don't want that.  That said, adding CP's manually in Hugin is a very
> fast
> process.  Click left, click right, right-click.  You don't have to position
> your mouse perfectly on the spot on the left and right image.  On right-
> clicking Hugin fine-tunes the location of the CP, so you just need to
> target
> the approximate area (+/- 10pixels).
>
> Yuv
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: More image tabs in fast preview window

[john doe]

i had an idea in the fast preview window mode, how about when selecting the
projection type you want to choose a small image regarding the type of
projection shows next to the selection?

On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Bruno Postle  wrote:

> On Thu 27-Jan-2011 at 01:33 -0800, Jeffrey Martin wrote:
>
>  Also, if I'm not mistaken, you can't mouse over an image in the preview
>> window to see which image it is. Can you?
>>
>
> Yes this is one of the things you can do with the Identify button in the
> Preview window.
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: what should be in the scripting interface? please have your say!

[john doe]

How about an integration with hugin and batch mode?

On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 11:56 AM, kfj <_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> On 12 Jan., 20:08, Pablo d'Angelo  wrote:
> > Hi Kay,
>
> > In addition to the basic Data model (as you seem to have done already),
> > the algorithms in hugin_base/algorithms might be useful for scripting
> > workflows. Here, maybe only the static driver functions are required in
> > the scripting language as the multi step approach (custruct algorithm
> > object, call runAlgorithm() & get the results out of the object) is
> > probably quite a hassle when writing scripts.
>
> I actually like the OOP approach, and most of the headers yield
> nicely. After all Python is an OOPL and so the handling in Python is
> just as comfortable as in C++. If I understand correctly what you mean
> by 'wrapping the static driver functions', I reckon it's much easier
> just wrapping whole headers instead of trying to pick stuff out - I
> wouldn't even know how to start such a thing.
>
> Today I included the majority of headers from the algorithms section,
> only omitting those which wouldn't yield straight away:
> NonaImageStitcher.h and ImageGraph.h
>
> Today I also included the headers from the PT interface, namely:
>
> hugin_base/panotools/PanoToolsInterface.h
> hugin_base/panotools/PanoToolsOptimizerWrapper.h
> hugin_base/panotools/PanoToolsUtils.h
>
> And the remaining headers from panodata, except those from here that
> wouldn't yield straight away either: ImageVariableGroup.h
> StandardImageVariableGroups.h and ImageVariableTranslate.h
>
> By now, these classes are in the interface (some only as dummies
> without methods, the remainder should sport all the methods they have
> in C++):
>
>AlignInfoWrap
>BaseSrcPanoImage
>SrcPanoImage
>CPVector
>CPoint
>CPointVector
>CalculateImageOverlap
>ControlPoint
>DestPanoImage
>DocumentData
>FDiff2D (dummy)
>ImageVector
>Lens
>LensVarMap
>OptimizeVector
>PanoramaAlgorithm
>AssistantMakefilelibExport
>CalculateCPStatistics
>CalculateCPStatisticsError
>CalculateCPStatisticsRadial
>CalculateFOV
>CalculateFitPanorama
>FitPanorama
>CalculateMeanExposure
>CalculateOptimalROI
>CalculateOptimalScale
>SetWidthOptimal
>CenterHorizontally
>ComputeImageROI
>PTOptimizer
>AutoOptimise
>SmartOptimise
>PanoramaMakefilelibExport
>RotatePanorama
>StraightenPanorama
>TimeConsumingPanoramaAlgorithm
>PhotometricOptimizer
>SmartPhotometricOptimizer
>PointSampler
>AllPointSampler
>RandomPointSampler
>StitcherAlgorithm
>FileOutputStitcherAlgorithm
>NonaFileOutputStitcher
>ImageStitcherAlgorithm
>TranslatePanorama
>PanoramaData
>ManagedPanoramaData
>Panorama(ManagedPanoramaData, DocumentData)
>PanoramaDataMemento
>PanoramaMemento
>PanoramaObserver
>PanoramaOptions
>Point2D (dummy)
>Size2D (dummy)
>SmartOptimizerStub
>SwigPyIterator
>Transform
>UIntSet
>UIntVector
>Variable
>LensVariable
>LinkedVariable
>VariableMap
>VariableMapVector
>tm (dummy)
>
> The thing has fattened up nicely, but I'll play with it for a while
> before I update the files in my repo. When I put it in initially
> yesterday I forgot a file, but I fixed it this morning (rev. 18). I'll
> post on the other thread
>
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx/browse_thread/thread/ab1f0df18aaa247d#
>
> when the latest version is up.
>
> Kay
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: On the way to 2011.0

[john doe]

I could start working on the latin american translation, i need the po
file

On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 6:32 AM, kevin  wrote:

>
>
> On Jan 10, 4:11 am, brian_ims  wrote:
> > Harry van der Wolf-3 wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > 2011/1/9 Yuval Levy 
> >
> > >> Hi all,
> >
> > >> As previously announced,  I merged the gsoc2010_panorama_overview
> branch
> > >> into
> > >> default.  It is time to test if it builds on the major supported
> > >> platforms
> > >> and
> > >> move toward a release cycle again.
> >
> > > Problems with Windows as well:
> >
> > > GLPreviewFrame.cpp(1056) : error C2039: 'IsShown' : is not a member of
> > > 'wxShowEvent'
> >
> > > Brian
>
> I was getting this same error, once I upgraded from wxWidgets 2.8.10
> to 2.8.11 it goes away.  Only thing I've noticed odd is that the debug
> output seems to be turned on by default and haven't figured out how to
> turn it off .  Tired -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Default but still lots of
> DEBUG, TRACE, and INFO output on the commandline it's launched from.
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: unable to find boost

[john doe]

i have the latest version of boost and cant update hugin properly..

On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 6:12 PM, dmg  wrote:

> Ok, I checked, and I think the reason is that my  make configuration
> files were compiled using a previous version of ubuntu
> I probably only have a subset of the boost libraries installed, and
> they are enough to compile hugin, But Cmake requires more
> than needed, I suspect.
>
> It is now working for me.
>
> --dmg
>
> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 2:27 PM, D M German  wrote:
> >
> > This morning I was able to build hugin, then I pull the change by
> > T. Modes and cmake complaints that it can't find boost:
> >
> >
> >
> > I have checked my installed libraries, and boost is there (as I said, it
> > was there this morning before I pull this change).
> >
> > Unfortunately I am clueless on how to see what the diff is before and
> > after this change in subversion to see if there was any other change to
> > the CMakeFile. Any idea if this is a bug in the CMakeList.txt, or is it
> > my installation?
> >
> > d...@iodine:/tmp/hugin$ cmake CMakeLists.txt
> > -- Current HG revision is 8b3ff381a026
> > -- Found wxWidgets: TRUE
> > -- Found TIFF: /usr/include
> > -- Found JPEG: /usr/include
> > -- Found PNG: /usr/include
> > -- WARNING: you are using the obsolete 'PKGCONFIG' macro use
> FindPkgConfig
> > -- Found OPENEXR:
> /usr/lib/libImath.so;/usr/lib/libIlmImf.so;/usr/lib/libIex.so;/usr/lib/libHalf.so;/usr/lib/libIlmThread.so
> > -- GLUT Found
> > -- Found Glew:
> > -- libpano13 version: 2.9.18 major 2 minor 9 patch 18
> > -- Could NOT find Boost
> > CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:253 (MESSAGE):
> >  Boost not found.  Maybe wrong version.  Hugin requires at least version
> >  1.34
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > --
> > Daniel M. German
> > http://turingmachine.org/
> > http://silvernegative.com/
> > dmg (at) uvic (dot) ca
> > replace (at) with @ and (dot) with .
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> --dmg
>
> ---
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> http://turingmachine.org
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Product Vision (was:An idea to expand HDR)

[john doe]

I was thinking how about making a window at  the beginning that asks the
user if he wants to run Hugin as a normal panorama stitcher or in HDR mode??

Then you show the fast preview window mode with a black background, on the
right there would be a control panel with the 123 load, align and stitch
tabs, huge text with it

On top of the fast preview mode tab you could place some other tabs, on the
extreme right there would be hide/show buttons to show the rest of the
options

In the fast prevew window mode you could also include Drag and Drop directly
to it asides from the load images tab, include in the control panel to the
right a picture preview mode and in the fast preview window mode you have
the usual projections to choose from, after you hit align and stitch then
the normal window with the final panorama shows up

I could make a rough sketch/draft in GIMP or qt4 as how it could look, the
look could be very close to Brunos idea

On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 7:27 AM, Bruno Postle wrote:

> [Snip making the preview the default GUI]
>
> Any change needs to be considered as a complete user experience:
>
> The 123 load, align, stitch functions need to be very prominent, I'd make
> them huge text and overlay them over the preview canvas itself so this is
> all you see with an empty project.
>
> Loading images needs to be changed so that the photos don't all appear in
> the same place, I'd start in the middle and spread them to the right like a
> deck of cards. This would make manual placement easy for users who want to
> work like that.
>
> The preview needs to be a drag and drop target so you can add photos from
> the file manager, photos need to be placed in the location where they are
> dropped.
>
> None if this helps with the question of what to do with the rest of the
> GUI, there needs to be intuitive ways of reaching the crop, masking and
> control points editors, and the other stuff too.
>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Product Vision (was:An idea to expand HDR)

[john doe]

I suddenly had a vision reading brunos comment, and using google...

This could be something interesting, im refering to using the analogy to
apply it to Hugin..

People mostly use google as their favorite web searcher because when you
type google you are greated with the google site and the web searcher
inmediately...

So why not when you start Hugin make the preview window show up, put options
to allow to upload images and then show the possible panorama image in the
preview window mode??

Of course the rest of the windows and tabs will be there but i think this
could be a very nice solution to see a really fast panoramic preview of the
images you upload!

Then in the same preview window or in the assitant tab you could put the
stitch box...

On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Bruno Postle
wrote:

> I think there is a case for having an expert mode, or rather having a
> central place where XYZ mosaic and HDR/bracketing/fusion is enabled per
> project.
>
> The confusion where the assistant is placed by the GUI at the same level as
> the the other tabs has been noted before.
>
> A solution suggested by Pablo would be to move the assistant to the preview
> window, make the preview the 'main' application window and make the
> everything else secondary - to the extent that only the preview is visible
> during a normal workflow.
>
> This approach is now practical since we got background loading of photos,
> the question is, do we want it?
> On 31 Dec 2010 10:05, "kfj" <_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 31 Dez., 01:59, Bruno Postle  wrote:
> >
> >> Hugin is also the de-facto panorama stitcher on Linux.  If Hugin was
> >> purely for experts then an Open Source stitcher for holiday photos
> >> would need to be created - This would have to have practically all
> >> the functionality of Hugin (except the XYZ mosaic stuff, HDR and
> >> exposure fusion, and some of the more obscure projections).
> >
> > Hugin light.
> >
> > Other programs hide complexity by default and can be switched into
> > more advanced, or 'expert' modes, where more options become available.
> > The recent discussion about the 'optimize all' button in the optimizer
> > tab (and the decision to remove it) has shown that less can be more:
> > if a user progresses beyond a simple standard interface and chooses to
> > use an 'expert' mode, he will be much more aware of the fact that in
> > this mode things may take some effort to get right and may go wrong
> > spectacularly if not used appropriately.
> >
> > Maybe this would be an option for hugin too? I always found that the
> > presentation of assistant mode as one tab of several, with the others
> > doing all sorts of 'expert' stuff, didn't make the intention clear
> > that assistant mode should enable the user to get a decent standard
> > stitch without using the other tabs.
> >
> > Kay
> >
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Product Vision (was:An idea to expand HDR)

[john doe]

Why not make Hugin a panorama stitcher and HDR creation tool??PTGUI offers
this...We have Luminance to take the HDR tonemapping capabilities from..


On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Bruno Postle wrote:

> On 26 December 2010 23:09, Bruno Postle 
> wrote:
> >
> > This post by Peter Sikking is a good read and links to further
> > information on both the GIMP and Krita processes:
> > http://blog.mmiworks.net/2010/03/working-on-vision-with.html
> >
> > The basic approach that we should be taking it is to first decide what
> > Hugin is and who it is for rather than compiling lists of new features
>
> I think there are various ways we could describe Hugin:
>
> Hugin is a panorama stitcher.
>
> I think this is too simplistic, though it is what practically all new
> users are looking for initially. A longer description would be:
>
> Hugin is software that understands a photograph as a record of light
> in a particular time and place, not just a collection of pixels. It
> has a sophisticated photometric and lens model, and calculates
> parameters for this by comparing photos that are known to overlap.
> Hugin can also use this information create a new image from one or
> more photos, this new image is a record that itself resembles a
> photograph, although potentially from an impossible camera.
>
> Looking at this second description, two things fall out:
>
> Hugin doesn't have a usable way to share lens and camera information
> between users, you basically have to recalculate this every time you
> create a project.
>
> When Hugin creates an output image it discards all the photometric and
> geometric information it knows about this image. Hugin ought to write
> metadata to the image that would allow Hugin to use the image as input
> at some time in the future.
>
> This is just my interpretation, a different vision of the software
> would indicate other inadequacies, or superfluous features.
>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Happy Xmas

[john doe]

merry xmas from venezuela here!!

feliz navidad!

On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Yuval Levy  wrote:

> On December 25, 2010 10:32:04 am Bruno Postle wrote:
> > Happy Xmas to everyone:
> http://flickr.com/photos/36383...@n00/5290551034/
>
> cool!
>
> +1 (of a completely different kind):
>
>
> https://panospace.wordpress.com/2010/12/24/hugin-2010-4-0-release-candidate-1-
> available/
>

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: An idea to expand HDR capabilities in Hugin

[john doe]

I like yuvals scripting ideas...i have some ideas about integratint
panotools scripting into hugin could it be possible??

On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Tom Sharpless wrote:

> Hi Bruno
>
> On Dec 25, 10:55 am, "Bruno Postle" 
> wrote:
> > I think that now Hugin is 'feature complete',
>
> I think not.  It still needs 'intelligent' alignment, starting from a
> 'shooting template', and including an easy way to specify straight
> line constraints (see current discussions).   I'd also mention proper
> camera and lens calibrations, backed by a usable personal database.
>
> Regards, Tom
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Fwd: [hugin-ptx] Re: Attn translators: BugFix = added translation string, sorry.

[john doe]

Ok to answer this mail in a rather politely way i will recall the following:
1.- I clearly stated before that i was not a programmer...
2.- The reason that i dont work in a group or under a group is because i
didn´t know they even existed
3.- I don´t know how translating works AS YOU RECALL I ASKED BEFORE WHAT
SOFTWARE TO USE, hence that shows that im a newbie to this
4.- The original spanish translation had and still has typos...
5.- I did or dont know there are rules on how to post in the group if there
are any...
6.- I sent a mail before regarding a problem with BOOST LIBRARYto upgrade
hugin via command line, being the fact that i havent received a decent reply
yet as to how to solve the problem...
7.- I did upload the file but not to Hugins repository since i dont have a
working account there...So, is there any responsability for that
comment???sure you asked me if they could be included, but again, i do not
have any acces permission to the hugin repository...i merely  attached a
 .po file...
8.- Again, i do not know how to use POEDIT,,,or any other .po program...I
merely used the program to translate some badly translated strings.
9.- I never asked for friends starting with this, the main reason that i
offered to help is because i like working with the program and i saw MANY
ERRORS in the spanish translation
10.- You may call me a political internet group ignorant or feel free to use
whatever term you desire, as i dont have any problems with it, since it is a
fact that A) Im not a programr B) I havent use this kind of comunication
before C) No one has been kind to me to inform if there are any rules as how
to post/reply any answers in the hugin ptx group
11.- Regarding to point 10 i havent seen any rules about it...

to answer your 4th,5th, 6th and seventh point, again,  A) no one informed me
of any rules regarding it, B) I havent been properly introduced to a team
yet

AND MOST IMPORTANT
C) I AM NOT A PROGRAMMERi could contribute only with translations

lastly, the only reason i use a nick is because of a google mail option i
triggered before and cant quite remember yet which was it...

PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT I DONT PROGRAM, AND I DONT KNOW HOW TRANSLATING
SOFTWARE WORKS...SO IF ANY MISTAKES HAVE BEEN MADE REGARDING THAT ITS
BECAUSE OF INVOLUNTARY MISTAKES..
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From: Yuval Levy 
Date: Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Attn translators: BugFix = added translation
string, sorry.
To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com


On December 22, 2010 08:23:56 pm john doe wrote:
> i didnt upload the file yuval did it..

It's called garbage-in garbage-out, and you better look at what you are
doing
before pushing the responsibility onto others.

*You* uploaded the files [0][1] to this mailing list.  I asked if they
should
be included and you [2] agreed.

To be perfectly honest with you, I did this only to get a nuisance off my
back.  I should not have put on the political correctness filter from the
start,  even if this means adding another entry to my long enough list of
"online-friends".  It's never too late to remove the political correctness
filter, so here is some feedback to you, John Doe aka. Guerrero de Luz aka.
Ernesto Enrique Alvarado Viloria:

1.  FACT: es_la is a locale that does not exist [3][4].  es_la.po is a
completely harmless file, because nobody will ever use it.

2.  FACT: all of *your* posted/contributed files fail the basic test of
`msgfmt -c --statistics`

3.  It is the responsibility of every contributor - whether coder, builder,
or
translator, to make sure that they know what they are doing.  Things are
documented well enough that for most thing the answers you are looking for
are
at [5] (for translators) and at [6] (for bleeding edge Ubuntu users).

4.  Most translations are contributed by *teams*.  In a team, people work
together.  I have not seen you working together with anybody.

5.  Team members are aware of each other.  I have not seen you aware of
others' work or advice.

6.  Team members try to find an answer to their question in the
documentation
before asking others to find it for them.

7.  Team members take responsibility for their work and mistakes, not push
it
onto others.

8.  I have not seen any positive behavior from you on Hugin-PTX and I was
happy that you did put yourself in a sandbox (es_la.po) where you could not
affect Hugin and its main Spanish-language translation.  Unfortunately this
was short-sighted thinking of mine:  the problem is not going away.  My
mistake.  Maybe this feedback will solve it, one way or another.

9.  Using pseudonyms does not help to make you more credible or likable.

10.  Flooding the mailing list with plenty of trivial questions that are
answered in the documentation only makes you look like a troll.  I explained
to you in private conversation a couple of weeks ago how to get the latest
Hugin for your platform, so WTF is [7]?

11.  "Ideas&qu

[hugin-ptx] An idea to expand HDR capabilities in Hugin

[john doe]

Hey coders, i had this idea today, I like to use QTPSFGUI/Luminance for HDR
working, personally i think its a better program to work with those files,
but since hugin now has the option to work with HDR why not incorporate an
HDR tonemapping feature??

Luminance was built with QT and the latest version comes with a bunch of HDR
tonemappers..Since hugin has HDR capabilies what do you think of expanding
it adding Luminance´s HDR tonemapping features??

I like using fattal and mantuik a lot..So since hugin already works with HDR
i see no problem with the request what do you guys think??

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: ANN: Hugin-2010.4.0_rc1 released

[john doe]

i see my name is there, is there anything new in the po file that i need to
know to translate itby the way how do i upgrade to the latest version??

On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Tduell  wrote:

> Hullo Yuval,
>
> On Dec 24, 7:51 am, Yuval Levy  wrote:
>
> >
> > The 2010.4.0_rc1 source tarball can be downloaded from sourceforge
> athttp://sourceforge.net/projects/hugin/files/hugin/hugin-2010.4_beta/h...
>
> Well done getting to RC1.
> Builds OK here on Fedora 13.
> A couple of things worth noting.
> It reports the same version number as beta-2.
> The crash I reported (bug 692404) can be reproduced in a couple of
> different projects.
> Not sure if anyone has had time to look at that bug as yet. The
> circumstances needed to bring about a crash are a tad obscure so it
> may not be serious, although maybe a little disconcerting to a new
> user.
>
> Cheers,
> Terry
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Attn translators: BugFix = added translation string, sorry.

[john doe]

i didnt upload the file yuval did it..

On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 4:59 AM, Carl von Einem  wrote:

> I just downloaded the current es_la.po (<
> http://hugin.hg.sourceforge.net/hgweb/hugin/hugin/raw-file/6a5ac6a405c7/src/translations/es_la.po>)
> and opened it in Poedit:
> - 47 untranslated strings
> - 161 fuzzy strings
>
> This version is from Dec. 6 so are you sure you uploaded your translations
> already as described in <
> http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_translation_guide#Getting_Started_on_translations>
> -> "4. Submit your *.po file..." ?
>
> Carl
>
> john doe schrieb am 22.12.10 03:37:
>
>> where is the string???so i can included it in an updated hugin es_la.po??
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Carl von Einem wrote:
>> It turned out that Thomas already dealt with the German string, so
>> Poedit was right in telling me there's nothing new :-)
>> However I found some typos and also a few inaccurate translations
>> which I now updated and uploaded.
>>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Attn translators: BugFix = added translation string, sorry.

[john doe]

where is the string???so i can included it in an updated hugin es_la.po??

On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Carl von Einem  wrote:

> Harry van der Wolf schrieb am 11.12.10 14:21:
>
>>
>>
>> 2010/12/11 Carl von Einem mailto:c...@einem.net>>
>>
>>
>>Poedit doesn't mark a string as being untranslated. Can you tell us
>>what string we should search for?
>>
>>Carl
>>
>> Poedit does tell you if you use the same machine and the po from the
>> same path. In preferences you set the database for this.
>> This won't work off course if you change machines and might not work if
>> you install/download the new po into another  folder.
>>
>> Sorry, I only corrected it about 30-40 minutes ago but I can't remember
>> what the string was.
>>
>
> Hi Harry,
>
> thanks for the hints!
>
> It turned out that Thomas already dealt with the German string, so Poedit
> was right in telling me there's nothing new :-)
> However I found some typos and also a few inaccurate translations which I
> now updated and uploaded.
>
> Carl
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Spanish translation

[john doe]

I agree with UWE!

On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Uwe Koch Kronberg wrote:

> Hi Yuv. I did not merge it. I just verified with msgfmt that the file
> had no errors. I did not compare it with Ernesto's file either, but as
> of yesterday he wrote in order to do it. In the meanwhile, I see no
> problem publishing both of them, one as es_la.po (Ernesto's) and the
> other as es.po (mine).
>
> Uwe
>
> El 07/12/10 17:55, Yuval Levy escribió:
> > On December 6, 2010 09:19:00 pm Uwe Koch Kronberg wrote:
> >> Hi all, I'm attaching a new file.
> >> msgfmt did its job!
> > what did you merge it with? how is it related to es_la.co from Ernesto?
> do we
> > publish both, or just es.po?
> >
> > Yuv
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Ideas

[john doe]

so how about creating an option in the mask tab to disable it and create a
dialog to warn that this option is useful to show the seams in the panorama
preview window?

I have some other ideas in the panorama window mode, ive seen some panorama
programs that have some advanced cropping options like GIMP´s cropping
tools..

Why not incorporate some of the croppint tools in the panorama window??


On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Bruno Postle  wrote:

> On Mon 06-Dec-2010 at 01:09 -0800, kfj wrote:
>
>> On 5 Dez., 21:40, Yuval Levy  wrote:
>>
>>  not really.  Thomas has shown that with good design you can have the best
>>> of
>>> both world, e.g. cpfind and celeste.  They started life as separate tools
>>> and
>>> you can use them both as separate tools and within the GUI process.
>>>
>>
>> This makes me curious. Are you saying that cpfind and celeste are
>> closer integrated than just being separate processes executed by hugin
>> to do their bit and then deliver back a result?
>>
>
> cpfind now links directly to libceleste and uses it to mask out areas of
> photos containing clouds before control-point generation.
>
> Previously with autopano-sift-c we had to wait for control-points to be
> generated, and then remove points from clouds with celeste - The result
> could theoretically be zero control-points.
>
>
>  It seems to me that enblend could only produce seam data by opening
>> all the (nona-warped) files, calculating where it would put the seams,
>> and then maybe produce some output it could pass back to hugin so
>> hugin could show where the seams are
>>
>
> An alternative would be to turn off enblend mask optimisation altogether,
> in which case Hugin could predict the location of seams.  Now that we have
> masking in the Hugin GUI this is a viable workflow, though I'm not sure I
> would want it to be the default.
>
> Note that ptgui doesn't have mask optimisation at all, since it decomposes
> the image pyramid before remapping and has no opportunity to compare
> overlapping photos.
>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Spanish translation

[john doe]

excellent friend, ill dl it and see it...and compare with es_la..

2010/12/6 Uwe Koch Kronberg 

>  Hi all, I'm attaching a new file.
> msgfmt did its job!
>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Latin america po file no errors

[john doe]

remvoe va po file... it is differente in the way that i corrected al
previous mistakes i told you earlier, i used QT4 to open the file, see the
lines. and in poedit i corrected the mistakes, this file is more complete,
it has approximately 85 porcent translation...

0 errors..

On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Yuval Levy  wrote:

> On December 6, 2010 01:33:00 pm john doe wrote:
> > hello i finished correcting hugin es la po, i used poedit and qt
> creator..
>
> thank you.
>
> how is this different form the es_VA.po file that you already contributed?
> should I just add this file to the translations, or should I also remove
> es_VA.po?
>
> Yuv
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Ideas

[john doe]

by the way i think there could be a new option tab in hugin:

show seams tab..

On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 4:27 PM, john doe  wrote:

> Could  be KFJ, i as a beginner photographer find the show seam option very
> handful!!could it be possible for hugin to include more options in the
> masking area to overcome this??as you mentioned since hugin uses enblend the
> show seam option would be influenced by how enblend works too, maybe using
> an external library or a new built in tool in the masking options could be
> useful...
>
> Im thinking how about bringing in area selection tools to be used with the
> masking funcitions??such as rectangle select, free hand style selection
> tools??
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 2:29 PM, kfj <_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 3 Dez., 15:42, john doe  wrote:
>> > I like the show seam mode...particularly it would help photographers to
>> > image edit the seams to get a better panorama..
>>
>> I wonder how hugin could know where the seams are - after all the
>> stitching is done by enblend. Having direct influence on the placement
>> of the seams seems desirable. Currently, if I need to change the
>> position of a seam, all I can do is use masking on the images, and
>> it's a bit awkward at times, though the possibility to use 'use area'
>> masks (sorry, I'm not sure if this is the correct english term) makes
>> things easier. But it seems to me the only way apart from masks to
>> influence or even just visualize seam placement would be to put
>> additional capabilities in enblend and some way of interfacing with
>> them into hugin. Am I right? I suppose this is the price to be paid
>> when using separate tools for separate parts of the panorama process.
>>
>> with regards
>> Kay
>>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] masking cropped images

[john doe]

 I think that maybe an error inside ptguis display system...

On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 4:24 PM, kfj <_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi all!
> Prompted by the discussion about ptgui's seam display feature
>
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx/browse_thread/thread/0be2c724071484a4#
>
> I had a close look at cropping and masking, and found behaviour which
> I think is not quite right: If you crop an image, the effect of the
> cropping is invisible in the masking window. The masking dialog still
> shows the whole image, uncropped. If you proceed to put an include
> mask onto the image which includes areas that have ben removed by
> cropping, the resulting panorama will show black areas there. I reckon
> that the effect of include masks should be intersected with the
> cropped area, like their effect is intersected with the area of the
> image total (though one can create masks that exceed the bounds of the
> image).
>
> Additionally, it would be nice if the cropping actually was visible in
> the masking dialog.
>
> Musing about this I did wonder whether the cropping feature is still
> worth very much now that masking is here and, in my opinion, more
> versatile. Is there anything that can be done with it that one cannot
> do with masks? What springs to mind is the inclusion of the cropping
> in the lens ini file, which potentially saves some work. But maybe it
> wouldn't be too difficult to add masks to the lens ini, rather - then,
> I think the cropping dialog might even become obsolete.
>
> with regards
> Kay
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Ideas

[john doe]

Could  be KFJ, i as a beginner photographer find the show seam option very
handful!!could it be possible for hugin to include more options in the
masking area to overcome this??as you mentioned since hugin uses enblend the
show seam option would be influenced by how enblend works too, maybe using
an external library or a new built in tool in the masking options could be
useful...

Im thinking how about bringing in area selection tools to be used with the
masking funcitions??such as rectangle select, free hand style selection
tools??

On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 2:29 PM, kfj <_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> On 3 Dez., 15:42, john doe  wrote:
> > I like the show seam mode...particularly it would help photographers to
> > image edit the seams to get a better panorama..
>
> I wonder how hugin could know where the seams are - after all the
> stitching is done by enblend. Having direct influence on the placement
> of the seams seems desirable. Currently, if I need to change the
> position of a seam, all I can do is use masking on the images, and
> it's a bit awkward at times, though the possibility to use 'use area'
> masks (sorry, I'm not sure if this is the correct english term) makes
> things easier. But it seems to me the only way apart from masks to
> influence or even just visualize seam placement would be to put
> additional capabilities in enblend and some way of interfacing with
> them into hugin. Am I right? I suppose this is the price to be paid
> when using separate tools for separate parts of the panorama process.
>
> with regards
> Kay
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Problems updating hugin

[john doe]

yes...well i saw in the branches that it is final release..i think...how do
i solve the problem with boost??im half step from updating hugin.

On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Kornel Benko wrote:

>  Am Freitag, 3. Dezember 2010 schrieb john doe:
>
> > hi im trying to uddate hugin to version 2010.4, i get this while trying
> to
>
> > compile;
>
> >
>
> > Boost not found. Maybe wrong version. Hugin requires at least version
>
> > 1.34
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > I installed version 1.40
>
> >
>
> > How do i solve this??
>
> The development version?
>
>  Kornel
>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Are you missing a keyboard shortcut?

[john doe]

align=ctrl shift a

On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 12:15 AM, Yuval Levy  wrote:

> https://bugs.launchpad.net/hugin/+bug/679996
>
> is a typical example of where users with no coding skills can help
> development.
>
> The reporter just dumped the wish for keyboard equivalents and provided one
> example.
>
> As Bruno stated in the report, what would be really useful is for someone
> to
> put together a complete list of operations in the GUI and menus that need
> keyboard equivalents.  Extra bonus for suggesting which keys to use.
>
> Who's game?
>
> Answers please on the bug tracker.
>
> Yuv
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[hugin-ptx] Problems updating hugin

[john doe]

hi im trying to uddate hugin to version 2010.4, i get this while trying to
compile;

Boost not found.  Maybe wrong version.  Hugin requires at least version
  1.34


I installed version 1.40

How do i solve this??

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Ideas

[john doe]

I like the show seam mode...particularly it would help photographers to
image edit the seams to get a better panorama..

On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Yuval Levy  wrote:

> They get ideas from us, so why shouldn't we get ideas from them?
>
> http://www.ptgui.com/whatsnew.html
>
> I like the detail viewer very much.  That's a neat way of implementing the
> zoom functionality that is missing from the fast preview and the way I
> understand it it is a panoviewer that does not affect the project settings
> (e.g. FOV, projection).  A future GSoC project?
>
> Yuv
>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Spanish translation

[john doe]

Post data: I havent been able to compile poedit, im using regultar gedit..

On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 8:04 PM, john doe  wrote:

> Hi people, well, this is my first translation and i did it with a simple
> text editor, also please take into account that I dont know if there are any
> specific rules to make the file..i will update the file right now..
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Uwe Koch Kronberg 
> wrote:
>
>>  Yeah, things happens. If you look at me, you would think that I'm a kraut
>> too.
>>
>> Deutsch geht bei mir auch ...
>>
>> In any case, I love Brazilian, so don't worry about my comment. It also
>> happens many times to me that I get confused with some terms in English and
>> German.
>>
>> Enjoy the Brazilian language as much as you can. It sounds wonderful.
>>
>> Tschüß, 8-)
>>
>> El 02/12/10 20:18, Yuval Levy escribió:
>>
>> Hi Uwe
>>
>> On December 1, 2010 05:57:07 pm Uwe Koch Kronberg wrote:
>>
>>  Hi Yuv,
>>
>> "obrigado" is Portuguese.
>>
>> Gracias or agradecido is o.k.
>>
>>  Sorry, I'm totally mixed up (once again).  One of my son's teacher is
>> Brazilian.  And one of the interior designers on the project I'm now is
>> Portuguese.  It's fun to be in a mixed environment after again.  One can not
>> make any assumption.  With your name, I would have addressed you in German,
>> but obviously you live in South America and speak Spanish.
>>
>> :-)
>> Yuv
>>
>>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Spanish translation

[john doe]

Hi people, well, this is my first translation and i did it with a simple
text editor, also please take into account that I dont know if there are any
specific rules to make the file..i will update the file right now..

On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Uwe Koch Kronberg wrote:

>  Yeah, things happens. If you look at me, you would think that I'm a kraut
> too.
>
> Deutsch geht bei mir auch ...
>
> In any case, I love Brazilian, so don't worry about my comment. It also
> happens many times to me that I get confused with some terms in English and
> German.
>
> Enjoy the Brazilian language as much as you can. It sounds wonderful.
>
> Tschüß, 8-)
>
> El 02/12/10 20:18, Yuval Levy escribió:
>
> Hi Uwe
>
> On December 1, 2010 05:57:07 pm Uwe Koch Kronberg wrote:
>
>  Hi Yuv,
>
> "obrigado" is Portuguese.
>
> Gracias or agradecido is o.k.
>
>  Sorry, I'm totally mixed up (once again).  One of my son's teacher is
> Brazilian.  And one of the interior designers on the project I'm now is
> Portuguese.  It's fun to be in a mixed environment after again.  One can not
> make any assumption.  With your name, I would have addressed you in German,
> but obviously you live in South America and speak Spanish.
>
> :-)
> Yuv
>
>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Spanish translation

[john doe]

or rasgos similares can be used instead.

On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 9:47 PM, john doe  wrote:

> I have found a translation:
>
>
> http://es.efreedom.com/Question/1-1318691/SURF-y-SIFT-alternativo-objeto-algoritmo-de-seguimiento-para-la-realidad-aumentada
>
>
> <http://es.efreedom.com/Question/1-1318691/SURF-y-SIFT-alternativo-objeto-algoritmo-de-seguimiento-para-la-realidad-aumentada>puntos
> de interes similares ...
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 9:43 PM, john doe wrote:
>
>> Yes yural Alvarado Viloria is my family name...I will work with Uwe, there
>> are fewer fields left empty nowCurrently im studying to see what spanish
>> term or concept can be used for feature matching.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Uwe Koch Kronberg > > wrote:
>>
>>>  Hi Yuv,
>>>
>>> "obrigado" is Portuguese.
>>>
>>> Gracias or agradecido is o.k.
>>>
>>> El 01/12/10 19:07, Yuval Levy escribió:
>>>
>>> On December 1, 2010 04:11:23 pm john doe wrote:
>>>
>>>  Yural my name is Ernesto Enrique Alvarado Viloria
>>>
>>>  did I assume correctly that "Alvarado Viloria" is your family name?  I've
>>> added you to the authors list, which is in alphabetical order.  You will see
>>> your name in the "about" menu of the next Hugin.
>>>
>>> If you find error, keep working on your es_VE.po file.  If the es.po file
>>> requires more changes, coordinate with Uwe.  And if possible add terms that
>>> need to be consistent across the application to [1] - it will help future
>>> translators.
>>>
>>> obrigado
>>> Yuv
>>>
>>> [0] <http://hugin.hg.sourceforge.net/hgweb/hugin/hugin/rev/85a9c5099bd4> 
>>> <http://hugin.hg.sourceforge.net/hgweb/hugin/hugin/rev/85a9c5099bd4>
>>> [1] 
>>> <http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_translation_guide#Translation_guide_for_specific_terms>
>>>  
>>> <http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_translation_guide#Translation_guide_for_specific_terms>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Spanish translation

[john doe]

I have found a translation:

http://es.efreedom.com/Question/1-1318691/SURF-y-SIFT-alternativo-objeto-algoritmo-de-seguimiento-para-la-realidad-aumentada

<http://es.efreedom.com/Question/1-1318691/SURF-y-SIFT-alternativo-objeto-algoritmo-de-seguimiento-para-la-realidad-aumentada>puntos
de interes similares ...

On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 9:43 PM, john doe  wrote:

> Yes yural Alvarado Viloria is my family name...I will work with Uwe, there
> are fewer fields left empty nowCurrently im studying to see what spanish
> term or concept can be used for feature matching.
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Uwe Koch Kronberg 
> wrote:
>
>>  Hi Yuv,
>>
>> "obrigado" is Portuguese.
>>
>> Gracias or agradecido is o.k.
>>
>> El 01/12/10 19:07, Yuval Levy escribió:
>>
>> On December 1, 2010 04:11:23 pm john doe wrote:
>>
>>  Yural my name is Ernesto Enrique Alvarado Viloria
>>
>>  did I assume correctly that "Alvarado Viloria" is your family name?  I've
>> added you to the authors list, which is in alphabetical order.  You will see
>> your name in the "about" menu of the next Hugin.
>>
>> If you find error, keep working on your es_VE.po file.  If the es.po file
>> requires more changes, coordinate with Uwe.  And if possible add terms that
>> need to be consistent across the application to [1] - it will help future
>> translators.
>>
>> obrigado
>> Yuv
>>
>> [0] <http://hugin.hg.sourceforge.net/hgweb/hugin/hugin/rev/85a9c5099bd4> 
>> <http://hugin.hg.sourceforge.net/hgweb/hugin/hugin/rev/85a9c5099bd4>
>> [1] 
>> <http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_translation_guide#Translation_guide_for_specific_terms>
>>  
>> <http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_translation_guide#Translation_guide_for_specific_terms>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> 56 32 2543465 Cel: + 56 9 87177837 E-mail: uwe.k...@opticakoch.cl
>>
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Re: {Spam?} Re: {Spam?} Re: [hugin-ptx] description needed for translation

[john doe]

No hay problema Uwe!

On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Uwe Koch Kronberg wrote:

>  Ups. Perdona amigo ...
>
> El 01/12/10 18:08, john doe escribió:
>
> Its Ernesto friend, anyway, consider that file a first revision...I might
> make another one...and change the file to es_la.po..I left some translation
> strings empty because i could not find words to refer to them..and I think
> one needs a correction to see if there is a spanish translation, im talking
> about feature matching...
>
> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Uwe Koch Kronberg  > wrote:
>
>>  OK, Eduardo. I got your *.po file, but haven't gone completely through
>> it. I'll check the differences among the first one I sent and yours.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> El 01/12/10 11:18, john doe escribió:
>>
>> there are many errors friend, i sent you i think an attached .po file with
>> some major corrections, if it hasnt arrived i will send you the attachment
>> again, please check the first email and check for attachments...
>>
>> there were many other mistakes..One common mistake made was with the word
>> objetivo, the guy from Spain used it many times to translate different
>> aspects of Hugin..
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Uwe Koch Kronberg > > wrote:
>>
>>>  Which one, in order to correct them.
>>>
>>> El 30/11/10 23:02, john doe escribió:
>>>
>>> there are typos in the spanish version as well..
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Bruno Postle  wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue 30-Nov-2010 at 23:39 +0100, J. Schneider wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Combined stacks:"
>>>>> currently "Verbundene Stapel:"
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  This is refering to bracketed-stacks of photos that are then joined
>>>> together.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  "Founded panoramas"
>>>>> Does it mean "Found panoramas"?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  I'm sure it does, the Batch Processor can now detect likely sequences
>>>> of photos to assemble panoramas.
>>>>
>>>>  "conformal" = "konformal" or "konform"?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is a mathematical term, Mercator and Stereographic projections are
>>>> 'conformal', they have low local distortion.
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Spanish translation

[john doe]

Yes yural Alvarado Viloria is my family name...I will work with Uwe, there
are fewer fields left empty nowCurrently im studying to see what spanish
term or concept can be used for feature matching.

On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 6:27 PM, Uwe Koch Kronberg wrote:

>  Hi Yuv,
>
> "obrigado" is Portuguese.
>
> Gracias or agradecido is o.k.
>
> El 01/12/10 19:07, Yuval Levy escribió:
>
> On December 1, 2010 04:11:23 pm john doe wrote:
>
>  Yural my name is Ernesto Enrique Alvarado Viloria
>
>  did I assume correctly that "Alvarado Viloria" is your family name?  I've
> added you to the authors list, which is in alphabetical order.  You will see
> your name in the "about" menu of the next Hugin.
>
> If you find error, keep working on your es_VE.po file.  If the es.po file
> requires more changes, coordinate with Uwe.  And if possible add terms that
> need to be consistent across the application to [1] - it will help future
> translators.
>
> obrigado
> Yuv
>
> [0] <http://hugin.hg.sourceforge.net/hgweb/hugin/hugin/rev/85a9c5099bd4> 
> <http://hugin.hg.sourceforge.net/hgweb/hugin/hugin/rev/85a9c5099bd4>
> [1] 
> <http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_translation_guide#Translation_guide_for_specific_terms>
>  
> <http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_translation_guide#Translation_guide_for_specific_terms>
>
>
> --
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>
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Re: {Spam?} Re: [hugin-ptx] description needed for translation

[john doe]

we should read the concepts thoroughly...i saw synonyms of the term
ensamblar and they are coherent with the word stitch.

On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Uwe Koch Kronberg wrote:

>  Yes. Some time ago I thought about that possibility too, but "ensamblar",
> according to the RAE, goes more towards to join, to adjust, to assemble.
> "Empalmar", instead,  goes more in direction to interlace, which seems to be
> the intention of the author(s). But I could be wrong.
>
> El 01/12/10 18:06, john doe escribió:
>
> I will need to compare the .po file that was sent to me with the
> translation i made i might finish this today or in friday...
>
>  There are some suggestions i think it might come in handy, for example
> where it says empalmar, you could use the frase ensamblaje del panorama for
> example..
>
> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Carl von Einem  wrote:
>
>> It would be great if you could add these specific terms to this list:
>> <
>> http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_translation_guide#Translation_guide_for_specific_terms
>> >
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Carl
>>
>> john doe schrieb am 01.12.10 15:18:
>>
>>  there are many errors friend, i sent you i think an attached .po file
>>> with some major corrections, if it hasnt arrived i will send you the
>>> attachment again, please check the first email and check for
>>> attachments...
>>>
>>> there were many other mistakes..One common mistake made was with the
>>> word objetivo, the guy from Spain used it many times to translate
>>> different aspects of Hugin..
>>>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Spanish translation

[john doe]

Oh speaking about menus, there were some mistakes in the menu descriptions..

On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 4:41 PM, john doe  wrote:

> Yural my name is Ernesto Enrique Alvarado Viloria, from Venezuela...Just in
> case if there is another guy with my name mention that im a lawyer, just in
> case..
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Uwe Koch Kronberg 
> wrote:
>
>>  Well, in fact I copied the version from the About menu from within hugin,
>> but I downloaded the *.po file from the web. I really don't know to which
>> version it belongs.
>>
>>
>> El 01/12/10 16:14, Yuval Levy escribió:
>>
>> On December 1, 2010 02:07:46 pm Uwe Koch Kronberg wrote:
>>
>>  I mistakenly copied the version of hugin in use.
>>
>>  In recent versions you can go to the About menu and copy & paste the full
>> version string and other feedback-relevant information from the System tab.
>>
>> In Kubuntu (but I don't know if it is the same on other systems) I can also
>> copy the full version string from under the logo in the About menu.
>>
>> Yuv
>>
>>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Spanish translation

[john doe]

Yural my name is Ernesto Enrique Alvarado Viloria, from Venezuela...Just in
case if there is another guy with my name mention that im a lawyer, just in
case..

On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Uwe Koch Kronberg wrote:

>  Well, in fact I copied the version from the About menu from within hugin,
> but I downloaded the *.po file from the web. I really don't know to which
> version it belongs.
>
>
> El 01/12/10 16:14, Yuval Levy escribió:
>
> On December 1, 2010 02:07:46 pm Uwe Koch Kronberg wrote:
>
>  I mistakenly copied the version of hugin in use.
>
>  In recent versions you can go to the About menu and copy & paste the full
> version string and other feedback-relevant information from the System tab.
>
> In Kubuntu (but I don't know if it is the same on other systems) I can also
> copy the full version string from under the logo in the About menu.
>
> Yuv
>
>
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Re: {Spam?} Re: {Spam?} Re: [hugin-ptx] description needed for translation

[john doe]

Its Ernesto friend, anyway, consider that file a first revision...I might
make another one...and change the file to es_la.po..I left some translation
strings empty because i could not find words to refer to them..and I think
one needs a correction to see if there is a spanish translation, im talking
about feature matching...

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wrote:

>  OK, Eduardo. I got your *.po file, but haven't gone completely through it.
> I'll check the differences among the first one I sent and yours.
>
> Regards,
>
> El 01/12/10 11:18, john doe escribió:
>
> there are many errors friend, i sent you i think an attached .po file with
> some major corrections, if it hasnt arrived i will send you the attachment
> again, please check the first email and check for attachments...
>
> there were many other mistakes..One common mistake made was with the word
> objetivo, the guy from Spain used it many times to translate different
> aspects of Hugin..
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Uwe Koch Kronberg 
> wrote:
>
>>  Which one, in order to correct them.
>>
>> El 30/11/10 23:02, john doe escribió:
>>
>> there are typos in the spanish version as well..
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Bruno Postle  wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue 30-Nov-2010 at 23:39 +0100, J. Schneider wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Combined stacks:"
>>>> currently "Verbundene Stapel:"
>>>>
>>>
>>>  This is refering to bracketed-stacks of photos that are then joined
>>> together.
>>>
>>>
>>>  "Founded panoramas"
>>>> Does it mean "Found panoramas"?
>>>>
>>>
>>>  I'm sure it does, the Batch Processor can now detect likely sequences of
>>> photos to assemble panoramas.
>>>
>>>  "conformal" = "konformal" or "konform"?
>>>>
>>>
>>> This is a mathematical term, Mercator and Stereographic projections are
>>> 'conformal', they have low local distortion.
>>>
>>> --
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>>>
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Re: {Spam?} Re: [hugin-ptx] description needed for translation

[john doe]

I will need to compare the .po file that was sent to me with the translation
i made i might finish this today or in friday...

There are some suggestions i think it might come in handy, for example where
it says empalmar, you could use the frase ensamblaje del panorama for
example..

On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Carl von Einem  wrote:

> It would be great if you could add these specific terms to this list:
> <
> http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_translation_guide#Translation_guide_for_specific_terms
> >
>
> Thanks,
> Carl
>
> john doe schrieb am 01.12.10 15:18:
>
>  there are many errors friend, i sent you i think an attached .po file
>> with some major corrections, if it hasnt arrived i will send you the
>> attachment again, please check the first email and check for
>> attachments...
>>
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>> word objetivo, the guy from Spain used it many times to translate
>> different aspects of Hugin..
>>
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Re: {Spam?} Re: [hugin-ptx] description needed for translation

[john doe]

there are many errors friend, i sent you i think an attached .po file with
some major corrections, if it hasnt arrived i will send you the attachment
again, please check the first email and check for attachments...

there were many other mistakes..One common mistake made was with the word
objetivo, the guy from Spain used it many times to translate different
aspects of Hugin..



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>  Which one, in order to correct them.
>
> El 30/11/10 23:02, john doe escribió:
>
> there are typos in the spanish version as well..
>
> On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Bruno Postle  wrote:
>
>> On Tue 30-Nov-2010 at 23:39 +0100, J. Schneider wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Combined stacks:"
>>> currently "Verbundene Stapel:"
>>>
>>
>>  This is refering to bracketed-stacks of photos that are then joined
>> together.
>>
>>
>>  "Founded panoramas"
>>> Does it mean "Found panoramas"?
>>>
>>
>>  I'm sure it does, the Batch Processor can now detect likely sequences of
>> photos to assemble panoramas.
>>
>>  "conformal" = "konformal" or "konform"?
>>>
>>
>> This is a mathematical term, Mercator and Stereographic projections are
>> 'conformal', they have low local distortion.
>>
>> --
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>>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] description needed for translation

[john doe]

there are typos in the spanish version as well..

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Bruno Postle  wrote:

> On Tue 30-Nov-2010 at 23:39 +0100, J. Schneider wrote:
>
>>
>> "Combined stacks:"
>> currently "Verbundene Stapel:"
>>
>
> This is refering to bracketed-stacks of photos that are then joined
> together.
>
>
>  "Founded panoramas"
>> Does it mean "Found panoramas"?
>>
>
> I'm sure it does, the Batch Processor can now detect likely sequences of
> photos to assemble panoramas.
>
>  "conformal" = "konformal" or "konform"?
>>
>
> This is a mathematical term, Mercator and Stereographic projections are
> 'conformal', they have low local distortion.
>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Spanish translation

[john doe]

Could you send me the file not in that format??im using ubuntu linux and i
have no way to decompress that file..

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wrote:

>  Hi. Please find a proposed Spanish translation for ver 2010.0.0.5045 . I'm
> not sure if I followed correctly the procedure in order to produce it. Part
> of the changes regard a more friendly way of speaking in second person than
> in third person when suggesting actions. Other are typo mistakes corrections
> and so.
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Re: {Spam?} Re: {Spam?} Re: [hugin-ptx] 2010.4

[john doe]

my name is ernesto, where or how do i get those programs?

On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 12:17 PM, T. Modes  wrote:

>
>
> On 29 Nov., 00:43, john doe  wrote:
> > ok, spanish po then is there anything else i need to add to the file??im
> > using regular text editor..
> >
>
> Hi John,
>
> Please use poedit, kbabel or an other program for translating po
> files. There are some control sequences in the po files, which needs
> to be updated (e.g. fuzzy translations) which is more complicated for
> a newbie with a plain text editor. Also the po files contains old
> translations/string which does not appear in poedit (old/obsolete
> string) and which does not need to translated.
>
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Re: {Spam?} Re: {Spam?} Re: [hugin-ptx] 2010.4

[john doe]

ok, spanish po then is there anything else i need to add to the file??im
using regular text editor..

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> On Sat 27-Nov-2010 at 21:13 -0430, john doe wrote:
>
>> hey guys i began the spanish translation, what should i call the file?
>>
>> es_VE??
>>
>
> Call it es.po if you want to update the translation for all Spanish
> speaking users.  If you call it es_VE.po then it will only be available to
> Venezuelan users.
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Re: {Spam?} Re: {Spam?} Re: [hugin-ptx] 2010.4

[john doe]

hey guys i began the spanish translation, what should i call the file?

es_VE??

On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Bruno Postle  wrote:

> On Fri 26-Nov-2010 at 19:18 -0430, john doe wrote:
>
>> could you send me a spanish po file that i could work on??
>>
>
> The wiki has instructions for using mercurial to retrieve it, though you
> can find one in the 2010.4.0_beta1 tarball just released, or download it
> directly from the mercurial repository with a web-browser:
> http://hugin.hg.sourceforge.net/hgweb/hugin/hugin/file/ce3928380363/src/translations
>
> (select the 'raw' es.po link)
>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: open source close range photogrammetry

[john doe]

THAT IS SOME REALLY SERIOUS SOFTWARE.

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> http://insight3d.sourceforge.net/
>
> I would invite this guy to join us!!!
>
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Re: {Spam?} Re: {Spam?} Re: [hugin-ptx] 2010.4

[john doe]

could you send me a spanish po file that i could work on??

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wrote:

>  It's ok! I was just joking ... There was no other intention in my words. I
> agree with you: Latinamerican Spanish tends to be more homogeneous.
>
> El 26/11/10 20:05, john doe escribió:
>
> i considered that..like catalans...i may think on helping with a
> translation for latinamerica...spanish is the same..no nuances here..i find
> it silly spanish (spain) call a pc ordenador, the literal translation is
> computador, the word has a coherential meaningful link to a machine that
> computes...
>
>  on the other hand the word ordenador like you stated, i personally dont
> find it linked to the word pc or computer...anyways that is for spanish
> class..
>
> On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Uwe Koch Kronberg  > wrote:
>
>>  Be careful, there are nuances: computador versus ordenador, e.g. honor
>> versus honour, etc. ;-)
>>
>> Some are extremists ...
>>
>>
>> El 26/11/10 19:46, john doe escribió:
>>
>> i dont think it will be necessary...venezuelas language is based off of
>> spanish native tongue...its like north americas english with respect to
>> englands english..
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Bruno Postle  wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri 26-Nov-2010 at 16:19 -0430, john doe wrote:
>>>
>>>> what is the name for spanish po file??
>>>>
>>>
>>>  The Spanish translation is es.po.  You are also welcome to create an
>>> es_VE.po and work on that.
>>>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] 2010.4

[john doe]

i found some mo files, they are locked how do i unlocked them?

On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 6:16 PM, john doe  wrote:

> i dont think it will be necessary...venezuelas language is based off of
> spanish native tongue...its like north americas english with respect to
> englands english..
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Bruno Postle  wrote:
>
>> On Fri 26-Nov-2010 at 16:19 -0430, john doe wrote:
>>
>>> what is the name for spanish po file??
>>>
>>
>> The Spanish translation is es.po.  You are also welcome to create an
>> es_VE.po and work on that.
>>
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Re: {Spam?} Re: [hugin-ptx] 2010.4

[john doe]

i considered that..like catalans...i may think on helping with a translation
for latinamerica...spanish is the same..no nuances here..i find it silly
spanish (spain) call a pc ordenador, the literal translation is computador,
the word has a coherential meaningful link to a machine that computes...

on the other hand the word ordenador like you stated, i personally dont find
it linked to the word pc or computer...anyways that is for spanish class..

On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 6:30 PM, Uwe Koch Kronberg
wrote:

>  Be careful, there are nuances: computador versus ordenador, e.g. honor
> versus honour, etc. ;-)
>
> Some are extremists ...
>
>
> El 26/11/10 19:46, john doe escribió:
>
> i dont think it will be necessary...venezuelas language is based off of
> spanish native tongue...its like north americas english with respect to
> englands english..
>
> On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Bruno Postle  wrote:
>
>> On Fri 26-Nov-2010 at 16:19 -0430, john doe wrote:
>>
>>> what is the name for spanish po file??
>>>
>>
>>  The Spanish translation is es.po.  You are also welcome to create an
>> es_VE.po and work on that.
>>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] 2010.4

[john doe]

i dont think it will be necessary...venezuelas language is based off of
spanish native tongue...its like north americas english with respect to
englands english..

On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Bruno Postle  wrote:

> On Fri 26-Nov-2010 at 16:19 -0430, john doe wrote:
>
>> what is the name for spanish po file??
>>
>
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> es_VE.po and work on that.
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Re: [hugin-ptx] 2010.4

[john doe]

what is the name for spanish po file??

2010/11/26 Lukáš Jirkovský 

> > 2. 2010.4beta1 binaries
> >
> > Let's try to get binaries released as soon as possible after the tarball.
> >
> > For Ubuntu I will try to do it myself on the Hugin PPA.  I am currently
> using
> > Lucid, and I have a Jaunty chroot environment.  I can't support Maverick
> and
> > Natty at the moment, sorry.
> >
> > Bruno / Terry, is anybody of you going to build/post a Fedora package?
> >
> > Harry, do you mind if I ask you to build OSX binaries once the tarball is
> > posted?
> >
> > Who is up to produce a Windows installer? Matthew?
> >
> > Have I missed anything? oh, yes, the source distros.  Anybody from Gentoo
> and
> > FreeBSD around?
> >
> > Thank you, builders, for taking the lead on your platforms of choice and
> make
> > Hugin easily available there.
>
>
> I'll try to build some packages using OpenSuSE Build Service if I have
> enough time (I'm afraid I won't). This way I could create packages for
> multiple distributions (I'd like to support at least current versions
> of Fedora, OpenSuSE and Mandriva).
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Re: [hugin-ptx] 2010.4

[john doe]

how do i help with the spanish translation?

On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Uwe Koch Kronberg
wrote:

>  Help is always wellcome ...
>
> El 25/11/10 21:07, john doe escribió:
>
> well i asked since im from venezuela and i could lend a hand..
>
> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Uwe Koch Kronberg  > wrote:
>
>>  Normally there is or will be one available soon.
>>
>> Just stay tuned.
>>
>> El 25/11/10 20:08, john doe escribió:
>>
>> is  there a spanish version available?
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Gerry Patterson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>  On Nov 25, 2010, at 2:18 PM, Yuval Levy  wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi all,
>>>
>>> six subjects related to the upcoming release cycle
>>> 1. 2010.4beta1 tarball
>>> 2. 2010.4beta1 binaries
>>> 3. dedication
>>> 4. translations
>>> 5. general clean up
>>> 6. plan
>>>
>>>
>>> 1. 2010.4beta1 tarball
>>>
>>> I've branched out 2010.4 last night and I will be releasing a first beta
>>> tarball at the beginning of the weekend.
>>>
>>> At the same time I am working on updating the wiki instructions (from
>>> subversion to mercurial).
>>>
>>>
>>> 2. 2010.4beta1 binaries
>>>
>>> Let's try to get binaries released as soon as possible after the tarball.
>>>
>>> For Ubuntu I will try to do it myself on the Hugin PPA.  I am currently
>>> using
>>> Lucid, and I have a Jaunty chroot environment.  I can't support Maverick
>>> and
>>> Natty at the moment, sorry.
>>>
>>>
>>>  Yuval,
>>>
>>>  I have a maverick 64 bit system. I can attempt to match up with you if
>>> that helps.
>>>
>>>  Gerry
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin Artwork License

[john doe]

legally speaking if the licenses do not exclude each other, its ok then..

On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Matthew Petroff wrote:

> On Nov 25, 2:43 am, Yuval Levy  wrote:
> > The Hugin artwork folder now contains original work from Cristian Marchi,
> > Bruno Postle, and Matthew Petroff.  Am I missing anybody?
> >
> > I'd like to formalize the license for the artwork.  Cristian graciously
> > accepted to make it available under creative commons attribution
> sharealike
> > (CC-BY-SA) [0] which is the equivalent of the GPL (Hugin's license) for
> > artwork.
> >
> > Can all authors agree to this license?  If yes, I'll add the licensing
> text to
> > the folder.  It is important to fix this prior to release.
>
> CC-BY-SA is fine by me.
>
> Matthew
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Re: [hugin-ptx] 2010.4

[john doe]

well i asked since im from venezuela and i could lend a hand..

On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Uwe Koch Kronberg
wrote:

>  Normally there is or will be one available soon.
>
> Just stay tuned.
>
> El 25/11/10 20:08, john doe escribió:
>
> is  there a spanish version available?
>
> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Gerry Patterson 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>  On Nov 25, 2010, at 2:18 PM, Yuval Levy  wrote:
>>
>>  Hi all,
>>
>> six subjects related to the upcoming release cycle
>> 1. 2010.4beta1 tarball
>> 2. 2010.4beta1 binaries
>> 3. dedication
>> 4. translations
>> 5. general clean up
>> 6. plan
>>
>>
>> 1. 2010.4beta1 tarball
>>
>> I've branched out 2010.4 last night and I will be releasing a first beta
>> tarball at the beginning of the weekend.
>>
>> At the same time I am working on updating the wiki instructions (from
>> subversion to mercurial).
>>
>>
>> 2. 2010.4beta1 binaries
>>
>> Let's try to get binaries released as soon as possible after the tarball.
>>
>> For Ubuntu I will try to do it myself on the Hugin PPA.  I am currently
>> using
>> Lucid, and I have a Jaunty chroot environment.  I can't support Maverick
>> and
>> Natty at the moment, sorry.
>>
>>
>>  Yuval,
>>
>>  I have a maverick 64 bit system. I can attempt to match up with you if
>> that helps.
>>
>>  Gerry
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Re: [hugin-ptx] 2010.4

[john doe]

is  there a spanish version available?

On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Gerry Patterson wrote:

>
> On Nov 25, 2010, at 2:18 PM, Yuval Levy  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> six subjects related to the upcoming release cycle
> 1. 2010.4beta1 tarball
> 2. 2010.4beta1 binaries
> 3. dedication
> 4. translations
> 5. general clean up
> 6. plan
>
>
> 1. 2010.4beta1 tarball
>
> I've branched out 2010.4 last night and I will be releasing a first beta
> tarball at the beginning of the weekend.
>
> At the same time I am working on updating the wiki instructions (from
> subversion to mercurial).
>
>
> 2. 2010.4beta1 binaries
>
> Let's try to get binaries released as soon as possible after the tarball.
>
> For Ubuntu I will try to do it myself on the Hugin PPA.  I am currently
> using
> Lucid, and I have a Jaunty chroot environment.  I can't support Maverick
> and
> Natty at the moment, sorry.
>
>
> Yuval,
>
> I have a maverick 64 bit system. I can attempt to match up with you if that
> helps.
>
> Gerry
>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: open source close range photogrammetry

[john doe]

anyways here are some nice links for the hugin developers and for whomever
started the thread:

http://blogs.oregonstate.edu/hess/code/voxels/

<http://blogs.oregonstate.edu/hess/code/voxels/>
http://www.advsys.net/ken/download.htm

<http://www.advsys.net/ken/download.htm>
http://www.algonet.se/~synchron/pheaven2/www/area17.htm

<http://www.algonet.se/~synchron/pheaven2/www/area17.htm>
http://www.sourcecodeonline.com/list?q=representasion_3d_from_2d_with_voxel

<http://www.sourcecodeonline.com/list?q=representasion_3d_from_2d_with_voxel>

On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 8:30 PM, john doe  wrote:

> there is some stereo open source code in opencv...
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Chris Erskine 
> wrote:
>
>> cheers, I hadn't seen this before.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Tduell  wrote:
>>
>>> Hullo Chris,
>>>
>>> On Nov 25, 10:06 am, Chris Erskine  wrote:
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > I'm looking for a something to do close range photogrammetry. in at
>>> least a
>>> > semi-automated way.
>>>
>>> I suspect that this  <http://stereo.sourceforge.net/> isn't going to
>>> do what you really want, but may be useful in some respects.
>>> I would like to see this concept taken further with tools for adding
>>> control points similar to those in Hugin.
>>> I think a lot of what is needed to incorporate a stereo capability
>>> into Hugin is in the PTStereo source, which hasn't been released.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Terry
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: open source close range photogrammetry

[john doe]

there is some stereo open source code in opencv...

On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 7:45 PM, Chris Erskine wrote:

> cheers, I hadn't seen this before.
>
> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Tduell  wrote:
>
>> Hullo Chris,
>>
>> On Nov 25, 10:06 am, Chris Erskine  wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I'm looking for a something to do close range photogrammetry. in at
>> least a
>> > semi-automated way.
>>
>> I suspect that this   isn't going to
>> do what you really want, but may be useful in some respects.
>> I would like to see this concept taken further with tools for adding
>> control points similar to those in Hugin.
>> I think a lot of what is needed to incorporate a stereo capability
>> into Hugin is in the PTStereo source, which hasn't been released.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Terry
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Command line interface for hugin please

[john doe]

thanks for the advice KFJ, right now im into perl..as you mentioned im
learning from reading some other perl scripts that uses hugin command line
tools and other software for HDR imaging..as for the file naming i used a
common approach to the video sources, almost like the one you mentioned...i
wish somebody in hugin development tool could overhoul the batch processing
mode to allow this..

On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 10:50 AM, kfj <_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> On 23 Nov., 20:22, john doe  wrote:
> > anyways, im reading a bit into scripting...i understand mostly perl based
> > scripting...what do you recommend for beginners?please keep in mind that
> im
> > not a programmer...
> >
> > i need a scripting language that suits the needs ive told you KFJ..
> >
> > im trying with qt4 right now.
>
> I find it very hard to give you advice on that, because I'm an ex-pro
> and have been using and programming computers quite intensely for some
> 30 years now. So I can't really judge what is good for a beginner. If
> you are serious and want to learn a powerful language that has a scope
> from scripting to general purpose application programming, I'd
> recommend Python, but I'm biased, because I'm a Python user myself,
> and I already know a fair number of programming and scripting
> languages - I've even done a fair bit of language design. So what I
> think is an ideal tool may be too powerful and too complex for you. It
> is very accessible and well-documanted, though, just visit python.org,
> you'll see.
>
> When it comes to panorama scripting, a lot of code has been written
> already in perl. You can either use the ready-made scripts, or try and
> adapt them to your needs by modifying them or taking bits from them
> and building your own on top. You may have noticed, though, that the
> existing scripts often aren't very well documented, so this process
> may be less efficient than you'd wish for. I don't know perl, so I
> can't help you there, but if you ask specific questions here, the
> authors or experienced users of the code should notice and give you
> competent answers.
>
> When I look at your problem of just changing a few i-lines in a
> template panorama to stitch the same thing with different images, I
> feel that even a scripting language is more than you might need. It
> looks to me as if you could pretty much get the task done with a shell
> script and the odd call to one of the preexisting perl scripts or
> other command line tools. You might even get away with very little
> scripting if you adopt clever storage schemes for your data, i.e.
> putting the images for each panorama into a separate folder, naming
> them img00.tif - img09.tif, and copying the template script into the
> folder. The script should pick the images from the folder it's in if
> it has just the file names in th i-lines, not the full path. Setting
> it up this way, all you need is a shell script setting up the folders
> and copying and renaming the files. Learning to write shell scripts is
> well worth the effort anyway, because they are widely used, and if
> you're competent with the shell, you can work very efficiently from
> the command line, and the shell already has methods to deal with
> files, variables, arrays, pattern matching, and so on - only the
> syntax is a bit cryptic.
>
> with regards
> Kay
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Command line interface for hugin please

[john doe]

hey i dont talk to GUIs i talk to GALs...sorry for the bad joke LOL...

anyways, im reading a bit into scripting...i understand mostly perl based
scripting...what do you recommend for beginners?please keep in mind that im
not a programmer...

i need a scripting language that suits the needs ive told you KFJ..

im trying with qt4 right now.

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>
>
> On 23 Nov., 18:12, john doe  wrote:
> > thanks for the replu KFJ im working un ubuntu linux..
>
> Ah. Great. Me too. So you have awk, Python, perl if you want it, the
> works.
> Scripting really is where you take control of computing. GUIs are
> nice, but they tend to reach their limits when you want to do more
> complex and involved stuff. After all, you can't talk to a GUI...
>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Python pto parser

[john doe]

o have some hugin perl scripts here, the are from some websites but id like
to contribute with the group and contribute with the creator...

KFJ mind mailing the script?

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> On November 22, 2010 12:12:49 pm kfj wrote:
> > > If you don't have yet an SF user ID, open first a Launchpad account
> (and
> > > document it please).  Then you can use OpenID to log on and create an
> > > account on SF.  Theoretically it should be simpler than creating a new
> > > account from scratch.  I'm interested in a documented experience.
> >
> > You were right, I suppose. It was quite straightforward: I created the
> > openID
> > with launchpad. Then I just signed into SF with openID and I was at
> > the page
> > with my account details straight away.
>
> oh, wow.  and you grind your teeth about the documentation in the source
> code?
> [0] is the level of detail that I was hoping for.  Oh, well...
>
>
> > My SF user ID is 3139776
>
> It says "User does not exist" and I realize that I asked you for the wrong
> field.  When I look at my SF page it has a User ID *and* a Username.  It's
> the
> Username that I need, sorry.
>
>
> > I will need a bit of guidance concerning the actual upload, but I
> > suppose you can
> > tell me how to go on about that once you've made the SF repo, or send
> > me a link
> > to a description of the standard procedure?
>
> yes.  well, kind of.
>
> START:
> hg clone 
>
> you get the repo URL from https://sourceforge.net/projects/hugin/developand
> you can already see the scripts repo listed
> http://hugin.hg.sourceforge.net/hgweb/hugin/
>
> then the typical cycle is:
>
> hg pull # to get get the latest changes
> hg up   # to update your local working folder with the latest change
> ... # do your stuff
> hg ci   # from time to time, save your stuff to your *local* repo
> ... # continue working
> hg status   # from time to time to check what has changed
> hg diff # from time to time to check what has changed
> ...
> hg ci   # do a last commit before pushing
> hg pull # pull in case there have been remote changes in the meantime
> hg up   # update if there have been remote changes.  hg will try to
># merge local and remote changes and will give an error message
># in case of conflict
> hg push # push your local changes to the repo you pulled initially
>
> note that you must be internet connected only during hg pull and hg push;
> and
> that while hg ci "saves" a repo state in your local repo, it is still not
> backed up, i.e. if you loose your HDD, you loose all changesets since your
> last push.
>
> you may want to do some customization in your local ~/.hgrc file, like:
>
> [extensions]
> convert =
> hgext.hgk =
> [ui]
> username = YOUR NAME 
> verbose = True
>
> that should be it. if you have questions, ask.  i know it should be better
> documented.  we have a wiki for that and every user is welcome to add
> there.
>
> Yuv
>
>
>
>
> >
> > with regards
> > Kay
>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Command line interface for hugin please

[john doe]

thanks for the replu KFJ im working un ubuntu linux..

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 8:47 AM, kfj <_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> On 22 Nov., 10:53, paul womack  wrote:
> > "back in the day" (g)awk was useful (and I used it).
>
> it is still on every UNIX-like system, ready to go. Ubiquitous.
> Allowed me to just write a five-liner to be run from the shell
> to make my point.
>
> > However, with perl now so mature and widely installed
> > (or installable) I view awk as of historical interest only
> > I use, and would recommend, perl as a "scripting glue" language.
>
> I use, and would, and did recommend Python as a scripting language.
> I suspect  perl is as powerful. Python got me first. And as far as
> (most?) Linux systems go, Python is already there - no need to
> install anything.
>
> > Perl has a helpful combination of syntactic convenience
> > and a huge library of pre-cooked code.
>
> I had a good look at Panotools-Script. I can only subscribe to what
> Eric O'Brien
> wrote above. It may be extremely cool code, but I found it very hard
> to
> figure out what it actually did. I feel that Python is more legible.
>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Command line interface for hugin please

[john doe]

KFJ!!dude youre the man!!!thanks for informing me about gawk!!i didnt know
it could do that...i was reading a bit about panotools script, but almost
all the tools work on a single pto file..and all th escripts i ahve seen so
far are based on a single pto file..whatever name it has, like
template.pto..

Iḿ really interested in both gawk and that ptsed tool you mentioned...didnt
know about it..

thanks a bunch for the info..and your scripts are nice..

On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Bruno Postle  wrote:

> On Sat 20-Nov-2010 at 14:54 -0700, Jan Martin wrote:
>
>>
>> But the result is not as good as what hugin does with the same .pto, and
>> me just clicking the "Stitch now!" button on the Stitcher tab.
>>
>
> You should be able to reproduce exactly the results of using the 1,2,3
> buttons from the Hugin Assistant with icpfind, autooptimiser and pto2mk
> (icpfind is only in the current HG tip).
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Command line interface for hugin please

[john doe]

how about i wanted to make several pto files to stitch a bunch of files in a
folder??is there a thing as mass spawning a pto file to apply it to other
picture files in a folder??that would literally save me hours of work..lets
say in one .pto file i have picture files img0001A.jpg and img0001B.jpg,
lets imagine they are taken from 2 stereographic cameras, this is a
hypotethical case, im working with about 10 video sources..

THe next row of files are img0002A.jpg-img0002B.jpg, and so on, since they
are part of a 1 minute video, forming at least 200 files..

How would i apply the .pto file to the rest of the jpgs in the
folder??hypotethically assuming they all have the same width, height,
cropping ..

On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 8:46 PM, James Legg  wrote:

> On Sat, 2010-11-20 at 14:54 -0700, Jan Martin wrote:
> > I have a .pto file and need to stitch it.
>
> You can generate a makefile from a pto with pto2mk, then run make on
> that to generate the same output as Hugin's "Stitch Now!" button. For
> example:
>
>pto2mk -o project.pto.mk -p project project.pto
>make -f project.pto.mk
>
> This page of the panotools wiki is useful for scripting things Hugin
> does: http://wiki.panotools.org/Panorama_scripting_in_a_nutshell
>
>
> -James
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Command line interface for hugin please

[john doe]

could i see the perl script??id like to stitch lots of jpgs taken from
varios video sources..

so far i have gotten to the point to almost automatize the stitching
progress with a perl script, but i would like to automatically batch stitch
and spawn one .pto to all files in a given folder, is this possible??

On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 5:27 PM, dmg  wrote:

> Yes, that is what his scripts do: panotools script.
>
> --dmg
>
> On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Jan Martin
>  wrote:
> > Hi Daniel,
> >
> > I have a .pto file and need to stitch it.
> > Output needs to be an equirectangular .jpg file at 95% quality.
> >
> > Right now I use a Perl script that runs fulla, vig_optimize, nona and
> > enblend.
> >
> > But the result is not as good as what hugin does with the same .pto, and
> me
> > just clicking the "Stitch now!" button on the Stitcher tab.
> >
> > So that is what I am looking for.
> >
> > Jan
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 2:30 PM, dmg  wrote:
> >>
> >> What part of hugin do you want to automatize?
> >>
> >> Bruno has been creating scripts to create automatic panoramas for some
> >> time.
> >>
> >> --dmg
> >>
> >> On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Jan Martin
> >>  wrote:
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > you might already know that I am working on a streetview rig at
> >> > http://www.diy-streetview.org
> >> >
> >> > One component missing is a way to stitch the images automatically into
> >> > panoramas.
> >> > My basic nona and enblend based Perl script solution appears more and
> >> > more
> >> > to be a waste of time.
> >> > It barely duplicates what hugin already does better.
> >> >
> >> > Therefore I'd like to propose a command line interface for hugin.
> >> >
> >> > Structure:
> >> > hugin
> >> > file.pto (does not change for a streetview rig)
> >> > "all the options and buttons from the hugin Stitcher tab"
> >> > -v = verbose output
> >> > -nogui = do not display a gui at all, terminal window only
> >> > -o output folder
> >> >
> >> > I am sure there is more to think of.
> >> > The panotools and nona and enblend command line options are a  good
> >> > inspiration.
> >> >
> >> > Any chance for this?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Jan
> >> >
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Re: [hugin-ptx] test, please disregard

[john doe]

is this a zen like post??

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Re: [hugin-ptx] migth be of interest for those interested in SIFT

[john doe]

i found that site a while ago while reading some material based on sift, the
author says hes code is open source, i have downloaded and compiled the code
it makes 3 binaries to use in command line..one can be used to stream a web
cam and find sift matches on a given picture while streaming..

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 4:42 AM, Rogier Wolff  wrote:

>
> On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 12:15:39AM -0500, Yuval Levy wrote:
> >
> http://blogs.oregonstate.edu/hess/sift-library-places-2nd-in-acm-mm-10-ossc/
>
> Wow! realtime! that means like 40ms for an iteration.
>
> Now handling images of say 640x480, or 0.3 Mpixels can be done a lot
> faster than handling images of 10 Megapixels But if I take 100
> 10Mpixel images, and scale those down to 0.3 mpixels, then running
> sift on each pair should not take more than 40msec, or 4 seconds for
> the whole process. After finding the matches a new SIFT run should be
> done on the full images with a much smaller search areas.
>
>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: male hugin skinnable

[john doe]

Hi.I use  linux.and I have misconfigured my name options




Hello firstly I do use linux I use ubuntu use

On 11/10/10, Henk Tijdink  wrote:
> Why is someone using 2 names on the forum?
> Pasajesenvenezuela and John Doe have the same e-mail adress.
> Does he likes a discussion with himself? Or a certain hidden agenda?
>
> Henk Tijdink
>
> On 10 nov, 12:34, Bart van Andel  wrote:
>> If you want this so badly, why not just install something like
>> Windowblinds [0]? Or, if you're on Linux (guess not) there are enough
>> ways to customize look&feel already. For Hugin this has absolutely no
>> priority.
>>
>> Would you ask Adobe to do the same thing for Photoshop? I guess you
>> won't.
>>
>> [0]http://www.windowblinds.net
>>
>> --
>> Bart
>>
>> On 10 nov, 07:42, Lukáš Jirkovský  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On 10 November 2010 03:55, john doe  wrote:
>>
>> > > upssorry for the typo instead of male i meand make...
>>
>> > > On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 9:55 PM, paisajesenvenezuela
>> > >  wrote:
>>
>> > >> hey how about adding an option to make hugin skinnable??that is let
>> > >> the user chance the appearance of the programs windows??
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Re: [hugin-ptx] male hugin skinnable

[john doe]

upssorry for the typo instead of male i meand make...

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> the user chance the appearance of the programs windows??
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Use hugin to construct a 3d image from 2d image sets 3d VOXEL

[john doe]

im going to start doing objectvr i just downloaded a flash prorgram that
makes a vr from sequence of pictures, but its a very nice idea to make 3d
models out of regular images..whats the difference of both of them??if youre
a customer and are viewing a 3d voxel image of an item in a store you
probally will find some very few differences than viewing an objectvr..

the main idea applies for both objectvr and 3d voxel modeling..

hugins current development cant do 3d voxel imaging or object vr...it would
be a very nice and exciting idea to write a program based off of hugin to do
that...

id like to show clients interactive 3d objects based on the items a store
has for sale..

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 10:39 PM, tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.au <
tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

> the more I think about what your doing its closer to objectvr
>
> On Nov 9, 1:46 pm, john doe  wrote:
> > tom i found this code maybe its helpful to you, its a complete program
> that
> > does 3d reconstruction from 2d images, its made in q4, comes with the pro
> > files, cpp files also..
> >
> > http://perception.inrialpes.fr/~Franco/EPVH/index.php
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 10:00 PM, john doe 
> wrote:
> > > tom i found some very nice interesting info and code here:
> >
> > >http://cboard.cprogramming.com/game-programming/55548-voxel-algo-scre.
> ..
> >
> > > <
> http://cboard.cprogramming.com/game-programming/55548-voxel-algo-scre..
> .>some
> > > code:
> >
> > > ...
> > > ...
> > > if (raydiffx>raydiffy)
> > > {
> > > if (angle!=90 && angle!=270)
> > > {
> > > distance=raydiffx/cos(angle);
> > > } else distance=raydiffy/sin(angle);
> > > } else
> > > if (angle!=0 && angle!=180)
> > > {
> > > distance=raydiffy/sin(angle);
> > > } else distance=raydiffx/cos(angle);
> > > }
> >
> > > float angle=-30.0f;
> > > float angleinc=HFOV/ScreenWidth;
> >
> > > for (int i=0;i > > {
> > > sin_correction(i)=sin(90-(angle*PI/180));
> > > angle+=angleinc;
> > > }
> >
> > > for (int i=ScreenWidth<<1;i > > {
> > > sin_correction(i)=sin(90-(angle*PI/180));
> > > angle-=angleinc;
> > > }
> >
> > > distance=distance*sin_correction[current_x];
> > > ...
> >
> > > On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 9:50 PM, john doe  >wrote:
> >
> > >> anyways tom it would be very interested to make a hugin type project
> with
> > >> 3d voxel capability, to turn regular 2d pictures to a 3d rotating
> image,
> > >> what do you think>???on the first post i commented on there is a site
> with
> > >> open source code using opencv...just imagine what you could do with
> this..
> >
> > >> heck the name could be hug-xel, short for hugin and voxel...
> >
> > >> why not also include the different types of projection in there too?
> >
> > >> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 6:04 PM, tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.au <
> > >> tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> >
> > >>> On Nov 9, 7:09 am, john doe  wrote:
> > >>> > tom the tool inhttp://blogs.oregonstate.edu/hess/code/voxels/
> > >>> > is free...what is DEM???
> > >>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_elevation_model
> >
> > >>> > im going to look for what you were saying and see what i can find..
> > >>> have read of these master thesis
> > >>>http://www.gpstraces.com/sven/main/publications/Master.Thesis.pdf
> > >>> the are two many gotach with voxel rendering
> >
> > >>> tom
> >
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Use hugin to construct a 3d image from 2d image sets 3d VOXEL

[john doe]

tom i found this code maybe its helpful to you, its a complete program that
does 3d reconstruction from 2d images, its made in q4, comes with the pro
files, cpp files also..

http://perception.inrialpes.fr/~Franco/EPVH/index.php

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 10:00 PM, john doe  wrote:

> tom i found some very nice interesting info and code here:
>
>
> http://cboard.cprogramming.com/game-programming/55548-voxel-algo-screenshot.html
>
>
> <http://cboard.cprogramming.com/game-programming/55548-voxel-algo-screenshot.html>some
> code:
>
> ...
> ...
> if (raydiffx>raydiffy)
> {
> if (angle!=90 && angle!=270)
> {
> distance=raydiffx/cos(angle);
> } else distance=raydiffy/sin(angle);
> } else
> if (angle!=0 && angle!=180)
> {
> distance=raydiffy/sin(angle);
> } else distance=raydiffx/cos(angle);
> }
>
> float angle=-30.0f;
> float angleinc=HFOV/ScreenWidth;
>
> for (int i=0;i {
> sin_correction(i)=sin(90-(angle*PI/180));
> angle+=angleinc;
> }
>
> for (int i=ScreenWidth<<1;i {
> sin_correction(i)=sin(90-(angle*PI/180));
> angle-=angleinc;
> }
>
> distance=distance*sin_correction[current_x];
> ...
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 9:50 PM, john doe wrote:
>
>> anyways tom it would be very interested to make a hugin type project with
>> 3d voxel capability, to turn regular 2d pictures to a 3d rotating image,
>> what do you think>???on the first post i commented on there is a site with
>> open source code using opencv...just imagine what you could do with this..
>>
>> heck the name could be hug-xel, short for hugin and voxel...
>>
>> why not also include the different types of projection in there too?
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 6:04 PM, tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.au <
>> tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 9, 7:09 am, john doe  wrote:
>>> > tom the tool inhttp://blogs.oregonstate.edu/hess/code/voxels/
>>> > is free...what is DEM???
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_elevation_model
>>>
>>> >
>>> > im going to look for what you were saying and see what i can find..
>>> have read of these master thesis
>>> http://www.gpstraces.com/sven/main/publications/Master.Thesis.pdf
>>> the are two many gotach with voxel rendering
>>>
>>> tom
>>>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Use hugin to construct a 3d image from 2d image sets 3d VOXEL

[john doe]

tom i found some very nice interesting info and code here:

http://cboard.cprogramming.com/game-programming/55548-voxel-algo-screenshot.html

<http://cboard.cprogramming.com/game-programming/55548-voxel-algo-screenshot.html>some
code:

...
...
if (raydiffx>raydiffy)
{
if (angle!=90 && angle!=270)
{
distance=raydiffx/cos(angle);
} else distance=raydiffy/sin(angle);
} else
if (angle!=0 && angle!=180)
{
distance=raydiffy/sin(angle);
} else distance=raydiffx/cos(angle);
}

float angle=-30.0f;
float angleinc=HFOV/ScreenWidth;

for (int i=0;i wrote:

> anyways tom it would be very interested to make a hugin type project with
> 3d voxel capability, to turn regular 2d pictures to a 3d rotating image,
> what do you think>???on the first post i commented on there is a site with
> open source code using opencv...just imagine what you could do with this..
>
> heck the name could be hug-xel, short for hugin and voxel...
>
> why not also include the different types of projection in there too?
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 6:04 PM, tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.au <
> tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 9, 7:09 am, john doe  wrote:
>> > tom the tool inhttp://blogs.oregonstate.edu/hess/code/voxels/
>> > is free...what is DEM???
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_elevation_model
>>
>> >
>> > im going to look for what you were saying and see what i can find..
>> have read of these master thesis
>> http://www.gpstraces.com/sven/main/publications/Master.Thesis.pdf
>> the are two many gotach with voxel rendering
>>
>> tom
>>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Use hugin to construct a 3d image from 2d image sets 3d VOXEL

[john doe]

anyways tom it would be very interested to make a hugin type project with 3d
voxel capability, to turn regular 2d pictures to a 3d rotating image, what
do you think>???on the first post i commented on there is a site with open
source code using opencv...just imagine what you could do with this..

heck the name could be hug-xel, short for hugin and voxel...

why not also include the different types of projection in there too?

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 6:04 PM, tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.au <
tom_a_spa...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

>
>
> On Nov 9, 7:09 am, john doe  wrote:
> > tom the tool inhttp://blogs.oregonstate.edu/hess/code/voxels/
> > is free...what is DEM???
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_elevation_model
>
> >
> > im going to look for what you were saying and see what i can find..
> have read of these master thesis
> http://www.gpstraces.com/sven/main/publications/Master.Thesis.pdf
> the are two many gotach with voxel rendering
>
> tom
>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Use hugin to construct a 3d image from 2d image sets 3d VOXEL

[john doe]

tom the tool in http://blogs.oregonstate.edu/hess/code/voxels/
is free...what is DEM???

im going to look for what you were saying and see what i can find..


On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 2:59 PM, john doe  wrote:

> opencv code is open source..it also has functions based on SIFT, SURF,
> image matching, etc...
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 2:58 PM, john doe wrote:
>
>> so what is need for hugin to do this??i believe matlab and opencv are the
>> solution...they both have libraries that can do 3d reconstruction, opencv is
>> cpp based...
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 4:24 AM, kfj <_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8 Nov., 02:24, paisajesenvenezuela 
>>> wrote:
>>> > hey guys, i just found this website, it comes with a code based on
>>> > matlab on how to build a 3d model from 2d images, they evn included an
>>> > example on how to do it..
>>> > ...
>>>
>>> > this is enough to build another hugin version...and it would extend
>>> > its funcionality from basic image panoramic construction to a 3d
>>> > modeler..
>>>
>>> I have doubts about the wisdom of including something like this in
>>> hugin. I feel that good software design should aim at providing
>>> powerful tools for specific purposes that are open to cooperate with
>>> other tools by sharing code and data. Putting two functionalities as
>>> different as panorama imaging and 3D reconstruction into the same
>>> program unnecessarily ties the two functionalities together. It bloats
>>> the body of code, thereby increasing traffic and making maintanance
>>> more difficult (since the whole is more complex), and the likelyhood
>>> that anyone would actually want or need to do both 3D reconstruction
>>> and panorama creation with the same program is probably not that high,
>>> whereas the functionality would be visible to every hugin user and
>>> probably, at least initially, produce a fair amount of extra support
>>> load.
>>>
>>> I feel that flat-surface-remodelling (mosaic mode) is already
>>> stretching it a bit - after all, naively clicking on 'optimize all' in
>>> the optimizer tab will try and optimize X Z and Z even if the image is
>>> panoramic, almost certainly resulting in a complete screwup that can
>>> only be mended by undoing the 'optimization', but one might argue that
>>> the two are still sufficiently close to each other to put them into
>>> one piece of software. The bloating you can, for example, see in the
>>> optimizer tab, where X,Y and Z take up loads of screen estate
>>> displaying - mainly - zeroes, because mainly hugin is used for
>>> panorama creation where you actually want nothing but zeroes there. I
>>> think this is about where the limit is, but of course it's only my
>>> personal opinion.
>>>
>>> But since hugin is OS, if you feel that a significant portion of the
>>> functionality would lend itself to the 3D reconstruction purpose,
>>> there's nothing stopping you from taking the bits that fit and reshape
>>> it into a separate 3D modeling program. The resulting piece of
>>> software [code name hugout ;-) ] would likely be much smaller and
>>> easier to maintain in the beginning, since it's functionality wouldn't
>>> have the birth defect of having to share a body with its panoramic
>>> siamese twin, and if the two were separate, you could just take bits
>>> from hugin you like once they emerge.
>>>
>>> I think the 3D reconstruction prospect is exciting. I've looked around
>>> for free tools in the area - not very intensely, and, as of yet, to no
>>> avail. My interest would be more in the generation of DEMs from sets
>>> of landscape photographs from different perspectives, since the DEMs
>>> available for my favourite trecking area are rather sketchy, but I
>>> have plenty of imagery...
>>>
>>> with regards
>>> Kay
>>>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Use hugin to construct a 3d image from 2d image sets 3d VOXEL

[john doe]

opencv code is open source..it also has functions based on SIFT, SURF, image
matching, etc...

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 2:58 PM, john doe  wrote:

> so what is need for hugin to do this??i believe matlab and opencv are the
> solution...they both have libraries that can do 3d reconstruction, opencv is
> cpp based...
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 4:24 AM, kfj <_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 8 Nov., 02:24, paisajesenvenezuela 
>> wrote:
>> > hey guys, i just found this website, it comes with a code based on
>> > matlab on how to build a 3d model from 2d images, they evn included an
>> > example on how to do it..
>> > ...
>>
>> > this is enough to build another hugin version...and it would extend
>> > its funcionality from basic image panoramic construction to a 3d
>> > modeler..
>>
>> I have doubts about the wisdom of including something like this in
>> hugin. I feel that good software design should aim at providing
>> powerful tools for specific purposes that are open to cooperate with
>> other tools by sharing code and data. Putting two functionalities as
>> different as panorama imaging and 3D reconstruction into the same
>> program unnecessarily ties the two functionalities together. It bloats
>> the body of code, thereby increasing traffic and making maintanance
>> more difficult (since the whole is more complex), and the likelyhood
>> that anyone would actually want or need to do both 3D reconstruction
>> and panorama creation with the same program is probably not that high,
>> whereas the functionality would be visible to every hugin user and
>> probably, at least initially, produce a fair amount of extra support
>> load.
>>
>> I feel that flat-surface-remodelling (mosaic mode) is already
>> stretching it a bit - after all, naively clicking on 'optimize all' in
>> the optimizer tab will try and optimize X Z and Z even if the image is
>> panoramic, almost certainly resulting in a complete screwup that can
>> only be mended by undoing the 'optimization', but one might argue that
>> the two are still sufficiently close to each other to put them into
>> one piece of software. The bloating you can, for example, see in the
>> optimizer tab, where X,Y and Z take up loads of screen estate
>> displaying - mainly - zeroes, because mainly hugin is used for
>> panorama creation where you actually want nothing but zeroes there. I
>> think this is about where the limit is, but of course it's only my
>> personal opinion.
>>
>> But since hugin is OS, if you feel that a significant portion of the
>> functionality would lend itself to the 3D reconstruction purpose,
>> there's nothing stopping you from taking the bits that fit and reshape
>> it into a separate 3D modeling program. The resulting piece of
>> software [code name hugout ;-) ] would likely be much smaller and
>> easier to maintain in the beginning, since it's functionality wouldn't
>> have the birth defect of having to share a body with its panoramic
>> siamese twin, and if the two were separate, you could just take bits
>> from hugin you like once they emerge.
>>
>> I think the 3D reconstruction prospect is exciting. I've looked around
>> for free tools in the area - not very intensely, and, as of yet, to no
>> avail. My interest would be more in the generation of DEMs from sets
>> of landscape photographs from different perspectives, since the DEMs
>> available for my favourite trecking area are rather sketchy, but I
>> have plenty of imagery...
>>
>> with regards
>> Kay
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Use hugin to construct a 3d image from 2d image sets 3d VOXEL

[john doe]

so what is need for hugin to do this??i believe matlab and opencv are the
solution...they both have libraries that can do 3d reconstruction, opencv is
cpp based...

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 4:24 AM, kfj <_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> On 8 Nov., 02:24, paisajesenvenezuela 
> wrote:
> > hey guys, i just found this website, it comes with a code based on
> > matlab on how to build a 3d model from 2d images, they evn included an
> > example on how to do it..
> > ...
>
> > this is enough to build another hugin version...and it would extend
> > its funcionality from basic image panoramic construction to a 3d
> > modeler..
>
> I have doubts about the wisdom of including something like this in
> hugin. I feel that good software design should aim at providing
> powerful tools for specific purposes that are open to cooperate with
> other tools by sharing code and data. Putting two functionalities as
> different as panorama imaging and 3D reconstruction into the same
> program unnecessarily ties the two functionalities together. It bloats
> the body of code, thereby increasing traffic and making maintanance
> more difficult (since the whole is more complex), and the likelyhood
> that anyone would actually want or need to do both 3D reconstruction
> and panorama creation with the same program is probably not that high,
> whereas the functionality would be visible to every hugin user and
> probably, at least initially, produce a fair amount of extra support
> load.
>
> I feel that flat-surface-remodelling (mosaic mode) is already
> stretching it a bit - after all, naively clicking on 'optimize all' in
> the optimizer tab will try and optimize X Z and Z even if the image is
> panoramic, almost certainly resulting in a complete screwup that can
> only be mended by undoing the 'optimization', but one might argue that
> the two are still sufficiently close to each other to put them into
> one piece of software. The bloating you can, for example, see in the
> optimizer tab, where X,Y and Z take up loads of screen estate
> displaying - mainly - zeroes, because mainly hugin is used for
> panorama creation where you actually want nothing but zeroes there. I
> think this is about where the limit is, but of course it's only my
> personal opinion.
>
> But since hugin is OS, if you feel that a significant portion of the
> functionality would lend itself to the 3D reconstruction purpose,
> there's nothing stopping you from taking the bits that fit and reshape
> it into a separate 3D modeling program. The resulting piece of
> software [code name hugout ;-) ] would likely be much smaller and
> easier to maintain in the beginning, since it's functionality wouldn't
> have the birth defect of having to share a body with its panoramic
> siamese twin, and if the two were separate, you could just take bits
> from hugin you like once they emerge.
>
> I think the 3D reconstruction prospect is exciting. I've looked around
> for free tools in the area - not very intensely, and, as of yet, to no
> avail. My interest would be more in the generation of DEMs from sets
> of landscape photographs from different perspectives, since the DEMs
> available for my favourite trecking area are rather sketchy, but I
> have plenty of imagery...
>
> with regards
> Kay
>
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[hugin-ptx] Re: Use hugin to construct a 3d image from 2d image sets 3d VOXEL

[john doe]

also it would be very nice to include this in the stitcher tab and include
the VRML extension option..

On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 8:54 PM, paisajesenvenezuela <
guerrerodelu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> hey guys, i just found this website, it comes with a code based on
> matlab on how to build a 3d model from 2d images, they evn included an
> example on how to do it..
>
> i can partucularlly find uses of this...just like there is VR used to
> do a virtual tour of a place, you could have objects viewed in 3
> dimensiones using hugin, lets say that you have a website which sells
> objects, instead of just uploading regular 2d pictures, why not upload
> a 3d rotating picture of the object you want to sell??
>
> i find it very useful, it will catch the website users interest and
> they could see how the object looks realtime and in interactive form
> as well...No need to use third party expensive software, with this,
> hugin would be able to build 3d objects from 2d pictures...Below is
> adescription of what the website states:
>
> http://blogs.oregonstate.edu/hess/code/voxels/
>
> 3D Voxel Coloring
> Voxel coloring is a technique used to create a photorealistic 3D scene
> reconstruction from a fairly sparse set of images without computing
> image correspondences.  It works by discretizing the 3D scene into
> small volume elements, called voxels, and reprojecting each voxel one-
> by-one back onto the image set.  Voxels that reproject onto a set of
> pixels with low color variance are colored accordingly, while voxels
> that reproject onto a set of pixels with high color variance remain
> uncolored.  A sweep of the entire scene volume yields a reconstruction
> of that scene.
>
> The 3D voxel coloring algorithm available here is implemented in
> MATLAB.  The images below depict a 3D reconstruction it created from a
> set of 20 input images.
>
> IN THE WEBSITE THERE IS A 3D MODEL MADE FROM A SET OF 2D PICTURES...
>
> link to the voxel source:
>
> https://web.engr.oregonstate.edu/~hess/downloads/voxel_src.zip
>
> the big bird image set:
>
> https://web.engr.oregonstate.edu/~hess/downloads/bigbird.zip
>
> this is enough to build another hugin version...and it would extend
> its funcionality from basic image panoramic construction to a 3d
> modeler..
>

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin and the 10.10 'buntus

[john doe]

how do i update via command line from a previous version of hugin to the
newest version?

On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Yuval Levy  wrote:

> On November 7, 2010 03:52:11 pm Yuval Levy wrote:
> > On November 7, 2010 03:13:44 pm Yuval Levy wrote:
> > > Do I understand correctly that the ./debian folder is all what is added
> > > to a plain unpacked tarball?  i.e. if I would like to do a bleeding
> edge
> > > build rather than a 2010.2.0 build, could I simply copy the ./debian
> > > folder into a clean repo checkout, update the control file with newly
> > > added dependencies and reasonably expect that it would work in most
> > > cases?
> >
> > partial answer to self:  there is also a ./.pc folder with the patches.
>
> something else must be missing.  When trying to package the very last
> 2010.3,
> toward the end of the process I get the following error:
>
> dh_install --sourcedir=debian/tmp -a
> cp: cannot stat `debian/tmp/usr/bin/autopano-noop': No such file or
> directory
> dh_install: cp -a debian/tmp/usr/bin/autopano-noop debian/hugin//usr/bin/
> returned exit code 1
> make: *** [install-arch-stamp] Error 2
> dpkg-buildpackage: error: fakeroot debian/rules binary gave error exit
> status
> 2
>
> This is most likely because the autopano-noop script is no longer necessary
> in
> 2010.3 while it was still part of 2010.2.
>
> I thought that removing 45_autopano-noop.sh_withoutshextension/ inside .pc
> would do it, but then I realized that this and other patches is being
> applied
> when apt-getting the source.
>
> dpkg-source: info: applying 45_autopano-noop.sh_withoutshextension
>
> how do I prevent this from happening / fix the deb package?
>
> Andreas?
>
> Yuv
>

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: hugin and video stitching

[john doe]

hello i found this app which can be used with panotools or libpano13 to make
panoramic video..

i only works with video, sound is no suppoerted by the moment, it uses
ffmpeg and comes with other video libraries..

from this software i think it is very possible to complete it with MPREMAP
or libpano, nona or hugin to to a linux panoramic video stitcher..

http://code.google.com/p/qtffmpegwrapper/

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:00 PM, john doe  wrote:

> yes but it is paid and only works in mac and windows...as of now ive been
> succesfully encdoing 3 second 360 degree video using ffmpeg, mencoder, hugin
> and some perl scripts...
>
> im thinking couldnt it be possible to do a include ffmpeg in hugin, add the
> program lines to the source files and headers and make the glwindow play the
> video???you could add a open video function in the menu, and use the
> glwindow tabs slider to play or seek frames...
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 8:49 PM, Tom Sparks wrote:
>
>> --- On *Tue, 2/11/10, john doe * wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: john doe 
>> Subject: Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: hugin and video stitching
>> To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com
>> Received: Tuesday, 2 November, 2010, 12:02 PM
>>
>>
>> Firstly i stated in the hugin group that im not a programmer, im a lawyer,
>> and im beginning to study QT4...
>>
>> secondly, before ironically commenting about subjects its better to look
>> in the webas tom stated, i wrote the thread specifically because in DIY
>> sites there are threads on how to do panoramic video using hugin, with
>> ffmpeg, mencoder and gstreamer...but running the programs dependently..of
>> course you could use some perl scripts available in internet, but the idea
>> is for hugin to do this...
>>
>> in the DIY there are tutorials on how to do a 360 degree panoramic video
>> with dual fisheye cameras...
>>
>> on the other hand i mentioned about MPREMAP...written by the author of
>> pano tools..
>>
>> THIS IS THE SITE..
>>
>> http://webuser.hs-furtwangen.de/~dersch/mp/MotionPanoramas.html<http://webuser.hs-furtwangen.de/%7Edersch/mp/MotionPanoramas.html>
>>
>> its written in java and uses ffmpeg and pano tools to do the panoramic
>> video conversions..
>>
>> the best example is eyesee360's videowarp @
>> http://www.eyesee360.com/videowarp/,
>> but I would like to see a multi-track version :)
>>
>>
>> tom_a_sparks
>> "It's a nerdy thing I like to do"
>>
>>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: hugin and video stitching

[john doe]

yes but it is paid and only works in mac and windows...as of now ive been
succesfully encdoing 3 second 360 degree video using ffmpeg, mencoder, hugin
and some perl scripts...

im thinking couldnt it be possible to do a include ffmpeg in hugin, add the
program lines to the source files and headers and make the glwindow play the
video???you could add a open video function in the menu, and use the
glwindow tabs slider to play or seek frames...

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 8:49 PM, Tom Sparks wrote:

> --- On *Tue, 2/11/10, john doe * wrote:
>
>
> From: john doe 
> Subject: Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: hugin and video stitching
> To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com
> Received: Tuesday, 2 November, 2010, 12:02 PM
>
>
> Firstly i stated in the hugin group that im not a programmer, im a lawyer,
> and im beginning to study QT4...
>
> secondly, before ironically commenting about subjects its better to look in
> the webas tom stated, i wrote the thread specifically because in DIY
> sites there are threads on how to do panoramic video using hugin, with
> ffmpeg, mencoder and gstreamer...but running the programs dependently..of
> course you could use some perl scripts available in internet, but the idea
> is for hugin to do this...
>
> in the DIY there are tutorials on how to do a 360 degree panoramic video
> with dual fisheye cameras...
>
> on the other hand i mentioned about MPREMAP...written by the author of pano
> tools..
>
> THIS IS THE SITE..
>
> http://webuser.hs-furtwangen.de/~dersch/mp/MotionPanoramas.html<http://webuser.hs-furtwangen.de/%7Edersch/mp/MotionPanoramas.html>
>
> its written in java and uses ffmpeg and pano tools to do the panoramic
> video conversions..
>
> the best example is eyesee360's videowarp @
> http://www.eyesee360.com/videowarp/,
> but I would like to see a multi-track version :)
>
>
> tom_a_sparks
> "It's a nerdy thing I like to do"
>
>
>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: hugin and video stitching

[john doe]

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 8:32 PM, john doe  wrote:

> Firstly i stated in the hugin group that im not a programmer, im a lawyer,
> and im beginning to study QT4...
>
> secondly, before ironically commenting about subjects its better to look in
> the webas tom stated, i wrote the thread specifically because in DIY
> sites there are threads on how to do panoramic video using hugin, with
> ffmpeg, mencoder and gstreamer...but running the programs dependently..of
> course you could use some perl scripts available in internet, but the idea
> is for hugin to do this...
>
> in the DIY there are tutorials on how to do a 360 degree panoramic video
> with dual fisheye cameras...
>
> on the other hand i mentioned about MPREMAP...written by the author of pano
> tools..
> also there is ryubins flash panorama dual fish eye sample mode which can
> stitch video recorded from 2 fishey cameras..but i think flash in hugin is
> nearly impossible as of now..


>
THIS IS THE SITE..
>
> http://webuser.hs-furtwangen.de/~dersch/mp/MotionPanoramas.html
>
>  <http://webuser.hs-furtwangen.de/~dersch/mp/MotionPanoramas.html>its
> written in java and uses ffmpeg and pano tools to do the panoramic video
> conversions..
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Tom Sparks wrote:
>
>> --- On Tue, 2/11/10, Bart van Andel  wrote:
>>
>>
>> > Well, since all mentioned
>> > applications are open source, why don't you
>> > go ahead and start mashing up a nice program? Or do you
>> > think this
>> > will be too much work or too hard?
>> > 
>> >
>>
>> I got other project more important, eg: porting software to my elphel
>> spherecam setup
>>
>> > I'm not here to discourage anyone, but seriously, this
>> > suggestion is
>> > very far from a simple / easy / straightforward task. The
>> > availability
>> > of source code "to start with" does not make much
>> > difference: being
>> > able to open a video stream and extract frames does not
>> > imply that
>> > stitching them automatically (into what?) is done with a
>> > few lines of
>> > code. But if you want to give it a shot, go ahead of
>> > course.
>> >
>>
>> here are two examples
>> http://www.diy-streetview.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8
>> http://www.diy-streetview.org/2010/07/01/streetview-video-by-free-hugin/
>>
>>
>> 
>> > --
>> > Bart
>>
>> tom_a_sparks
>> "It's a nerdy thing I like to do"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: hugin and video stitching

[john doe]

Firstly i stated in the hugin group that im not a programmer, im a lawyer,
and im beginning to study QT4...

secondly, before ironically commenting about subjects its better to look in
the webas tom stated, i wrote the thread specifically because in DIY
sites there are threads on how to do panoramic video using hugin, with
ffmpeg, mencoder and gstreamer...but running the programs dependently..of
course you could use some perl scripts available in internet, but the idea
is for hugin to do this...

in the DIY there are tutorials on how to do a 360 degree panoramic video
with dual fisheye cameras...

on the other hand i mentioned about MPREMAP...written by the author of pano
tools..

THIS IS THE SITE..

http://webuser.hs-furtwangen.de/~dersch/mp/MotionPanoramas.html

its written
in java and uses ffmpeg and pano tools to do the panoramic video
conversions..

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Tom Sparks wrote:

> --- On Tue, 2/11/10, Bart van Andel  wrote:
>
>
> > Well, since all mentioned
> > applications are open source, why don't you
> > go ahead and start mashing up a nice program? Or do you
> > think this
> > will be too much work or too hard?
> > 
> >
>
> I got other project more important, eg: porting software to my elphel
> spherecam setup
>
> > I'm not here to discourage anyone, but seriously, this
> > suggestion is
> > very far from a simple / easy / straightforward task. The
> > availability
> > of source code "to start with" does not make much
> > difference: being
> > able to open a video stream and extract frames does not
> > imply that
> > stitching them automatically (into what?) is done with a
> > few lines of
> > code. But if you want to give it a shot, go ahead of
> > course.
> >
>
> here are two examples
> http://www.diy-streetview.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8
> http://www.diy-streetview.org/2010/07/01/streetview-video-by-free-hugin/
>
>
> 
> > --
> > Bart
>
> tom_a_sparks
> "It's a nerdy thing I like to do"
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Where to place feature requests?

[john doe]

i have an ideahave any of you seen mpremap??it is used for single video
motion panorama projection transformation...it usess ffmpeg and libpano...

Why not build hugin with ffmpeg libraries, to be able to read video and
change the projections??this could be a step towards making hugin a video
stitcher...mpremap is written in java...

nonetheless, there are some video editing programs that are written in qt4
that hugin could use some code to work with, avidemux is written in qt4 and
usess ffmpeg, so i think is VLC..



On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:00 PM, kfj <_...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> On 1 Nov., 01:02, Bruno Postle  wrote:
>
> > Sorry, we are really suffering from a lack of documentation
> > considering how often we get requests for features that already
> > exist.
>
> I think this is true. It's sad, but true. An undocumented feature
> might as well not be there. Someone has spent time and effort
> implementing a solution to a problem they have seen, it's gone through
> 'peer review' and testing - but it can't be used by the general
> public, because it's so obscure or badly documented hardly anyone can
> figure it out.
> The person implementing a feature is really in the best position to
> document it, because they have the clearest insight in the feature -
> why it was introduced, how it was implemented, how it can be used. But
> of course it's much more fun just writing the thing and then moving on
> to the next interesting problem.
> What to do about it?
>
> whith regards
> Kay
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: View this page "Affine SIFT algorith"

[john doe]

ok im out for now, im going to check out some avidemux code...i think hugin
can use some part of it and FFMPEG to read videos to convert them to
diffrent projections and do video stitching...i opened a thread on this,
havent seen any replies..

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Bernd Hohmann wrote:

> On 01.11.2010 16:49, john doe wrote:
>
>  maybe its because the algorith isnt written for high detail pics, so it
>> might work with 640*480 resolution images or 800*600...
>>
>
> It works perfectly with high resolution images, its a matter of the number
> of contrast changes (or so). I guess a fine checkerboard pattern will drive
> it crazy :-)
>
> demo_ASIFT rescales to 800*600 internally.
>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: View this page "Affine SIFT algorith"

[john doe]

maybe its because the algorith isnt written for high detail pics, so it
might work with 640*480 resolution images or 800*600...
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Bernd Hohmann wrote:

> On 01.11.2010 14:32, Tom Sharpless wrote:
>
> Tom,
>
>
>   As far as I can see, ASIFT is doing its job very well even with fisheye
>>>  images and without calibration data.
>>>
>>>  That is surprising to me.  As I understand the description of ASIFT
>> (which is not very well) it assumes that the source images are in
>> rectilinear projection.
>>
>
> I don't think that the projection of the original images does matter
> because the algorithm bend and distort them in all directions.
>
>
>  However, the results should speak for themselves.
>>
>
> Indeed.
>
> I created a testcase: 8 fisheye shots, all of them "shots from the hip".
>
> All the cp finders included in hugin went wrong, ASIFT created enouth good
> points so that all images were almost in the right position.
>
> On images with high detail (for example my shots of an ancient lime rock
> mine), the algorithm gets painful slow. About 90 seconds for generating the
> keypoints and about 20-25 minutes for matching.
>
> Bernd
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: View this page "Affine SIFT algorith"

[john doe]

so, it would be an interesting thing to create  a template.pto before, and
include it in the ASIFT source code, and see what happens??

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:02 AM, Tom Sharpless  wrote:

> Hi Bernd
>
> On Oct 31, 7:02 am, Bernd Hohmann  wrote:
> > On 31.10.2010 03:14, Tom Sharpless wrote:
> >
> > Tom,
> >
> > > It is a fact that SIFT does not find as many matches as we would like
> > > in wide angle and especially fisheye images.  But that problem will
> > > not be solved by better matching of affine transformations, as it is
> > > due to image deformations, characteristic of those lenses, that are
> > > not affine transformations.
> >
> > As far as I can see, ASIFT is doing its job very well even with fisheye
> > images and without calibration data.
> >
> That is surprising to me.  As I understand the description of ASIFT
> (which is not very well) it assumes that the source images are in
> rectilinear projection.  I do agree with Morel and Yu's idea that
> simulating rotations of the direction of view should improve local
> similarity measured at true match points.  However the results of that
> rotation do depend on the lens projection function, so I would not
> expect such a good result when the wrong lens function is used.
> However, the results should speak for themselves.
>
> In panoramic image sets, the images are in fact related by pure
> rotations of the view direction (leaving aside parallax errors).
> Therefore, if lens distortion is corrected, the Morel/Yu procedure
> should generate locally almost identical images, when the chosen
> rotations happen to equal the true ones.  By using the approximate
> alignment angles from a "shooting template", it should be possible to
> limit the range of angles that needs to be searched; and of course
> also to limit the image areas that need to be searched.   This could
> lead to a rather fast alignment algorithm.
>
> Regards, Tom
>
> > Bernd
> >
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: View this page "Affine SIFT algorith"

[john doe]

yes your wrapper, do you have a program to show the code working??if so can
you upload some pics of it?thanks..

On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Bernd Hohmann wrote:

> On 31.10.2010 18:51, john doe wrote:
>
>  hey bernd hows everything going with the coding??can you supply images
>> as how the code works??including aligning images with ASIFT if possible...
>>
>
> Which coding? My wrapper? Images for what?
>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: View this page "Affine SIFT algorith"

[john doe]

hey bernd hows everything going with the coding??can you supply images as
how the code works??including aligning images with ASIFT if possible...

On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 6:32 AM, Bernd Hohmann wrote:

> On 31.10.2010 03:14, Tom Sharpless wrote:
>
> Tom,
>
>
>  It is a fact that SIFT does not find as many matches as we would like
>> in wide angle and especially fisheye images.  But that problem will
>> not be solved by better matching of affine transformations, as it is
>> due to image deformations, characteristic of those lenses, that are
>> not affine transformations.
>>
>
> As far as I can see, ASIFT is doing its job very well even with fisheye
> images and without calibration data.
>
> Bernd
>
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