Re: Dilemma of a young Mainframe Systems Programmer

2005-08-02 Thread Timothy Sipples
How does anything in that story apply uniquely to zSeries?  Outsourcing to 
India (and elsewhere) is, if anything, more prevalent off zSeries than on. 
 UNIX?  The overall UNIX market is in decline, and UNIX outsources as well 
as anything.

Tyler ought to make sure that he knows WebSphere, Linux, Java, workflow 
(WebSphere Business Integration Server Foundation and WBI Modeler, as 
examples), and ESB concepts (MQ, Message Broker, Web Services Gateway, 
etc.) among other things.  He should help his employer make those 
technologies available on zSeries to his constituents -- and that those 
facilities are approachable and accessible by all who need to solve 
business problems.  Note that implies at least some knowledge of solving 
business problems.  If Tyler can't understand how his IT skills support 
business objectives, he does have a problem.

Somehow businesses got rid of those punched cards and teletypes a few 
years ago and replaced them with those newfangled 3270 terminals.  IBM 
mainframes have had Web servers and Web interfaces since 1991.  The first 
Web server outside Europe was installed on a mainframe, at Stanford.  So 
how about if Tyler stops worrying about the few fossils acting like 
fossils -- which exist in any organization.  Tyler should have plenty of 
work to do getting Web interfaces deployed.  There's this newfangled 
software called HATS, and it runs under WebSphere

Repeating myself here, but he (or she?) has skills on a (the?) growth 
platform in a world crying out for solutions that don't break and which 
protect personal information.  So I'd advise Tyler to learn a foreign 
language -- that's sage advice no matter what the career path -- and enjoy 
the ride.

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Re: Dilemma of a young Mainframe Systems Programmer

2005-08-02 Thread Jan MOEYERSONS
okay, one more, yes, he could learn to use windows
where in order to shutdown the system, you must first
hit the START button.

Heueueue, don't you ADCD users S SHUTDOWN at the system console to bring
your system down?

Jantje.

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Re: STK 9840 in 3590 compat mode

2005-08-02 Thread R.S.

Ed Finnell wrote:

 
In a message dated 8/1/2005 9:30:08 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
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So the  drives are software compatible, but the carts are totally 
incompatible and  cannot be mounted in the other vendors drives.





Yup, but you can order 3590 guts for a  9840. 


No you cannot.
You can install 3590 drives in STK robot library.

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Re: Routine name/srb

2005-08-02 Thread mary george
Usage notes of BPX1MPI module says about  signal ECB's as :
 

The user is responsible for initializing all ECBs, including the signal ECB. The

first ECB is the signal ECB. 

 

 

Usage notes on BPX1MP says ,

 

When a  signal is received, the mvspause service posts the signal ECB and runs 
the

signal handler before returning to the user.

What  is a Signal ECB?Where can I find informations on it?

 

 

Isn't the firt ECB in the list 

 
 
 


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I find the BPX1MP and BPX1MPI services been called in my module. My
system does not seem to have any interaction with UNIX,its running on
ZOS.

Unix System Services is part of z/OS, and other components, e.g.,
TCP/IP, use it.

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Re: DELETE of DATA INDEX entries of a KSDS in a CATALOG ...

2005-08-02 Thread DOMINGUEZ MARTIN, ANGEL LUIS
 
You can choose between two choices:

* RECATALG and then normal delete

* Zap to VTOC converting DATA and INDEX into SEQ files and then
DELETE ENTRIES.
  CCHHRR ??
VER53  08
REP53  00
VER5D  12
REP5D  80


angel luis dominguez
bbva - spain 

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De: Moussadak, Mustafa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

I have a DATA  INDEX entries of one KSDS in a catalog without a entrie of a
CLUSTER. There's no relevant info in the VVDS.
I would like to Delete theses entries but I can't (IDCAMS DEL NSCR Return
08).


 
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Re: DELETE of DATA INDEX entries of a KSDS in a CATALOG ...

2005-08-02 Thread R.S.

DOMINGUEZ MARTIN, ANGEL LUIS wrote:

 
	You can choose between two choices:


* RECATALG and then normal delete

* Zap to VTOC converting DATA and INDEX into SEQ files and then
DELETE ENTRIES.
  CCHHRR ??
VER53  08
REP53  00
VER5D  12
REP5D  80


...and then have problems with BCS entries and VVDS.

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Re: DELETE of DATA INDEX entries of a KSDS in a CATALOG ...

2005-08-02 Thread Rob Scott
I would advise that you try DELETE VVR before zapping the VTOC.


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To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: DELETE of DATA  INDEX entries of a KSDS in a CATALOG ...

 
You can choose between two choices:

* RECATALG and then normal delete

* Zap to VTOC converting DATA and INDEX into SEQ files and then
DELETE ENTRIES.
  CCHHRR ??
VER53  08
REP53  00
VER5D  12
REP5D  80


angel luis dominguez
bbva - spain 

-Mensaje original-
De: Moussadak, Mustafa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

I have a DATA  INDEX entries of one KSDS in a catalog without a entrie
of a
CLUSTER. There's no relevant info in the VVDS.
I would like to Delete theses entries but I can't (IDCAMS DEL NSCR
Return
08).


 
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Enlarging JES2 checkpoint datasets

2005-08-02 Thread Max Scarpa
Estimeed listers

I've the need to enlarge our JES2 checkpoint datasets (the main couple and
the 'spare' dataset) first in test then in prod.

Is there anyone that can provide a quick procedure to do it ? I read JES2
tuning and inizialization guide but I don't understand if I've to define
new datasets (via say IEFBR14) and then (at JES2 cold start) starting
reconfiguration dialog or it can be done via JES2 commands renaming the old
datasets and the new.

Any help will be greatly appreciated

M. S.

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Re: Enlarging JES2 checkpoint datasets

2005-08-02 Thread Max Scarpa
Sorry

I forgot to say we haven't coupling facility we are in monoplex


M.S.

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Re: Enlarging JES2 checkpoint datasets

2005-08-02 Thread Mark Jacobs
On Tuesday 02 August 2005 07:29 am, Max Scarpa wrote:
 Sorry

 I forgot to say we haven't coupling facility we are in monoplex


 M.S.


Same theory then. Move ckpt2 to  ckpt1. redefine chkp1. reactivate chkpt1, 
move new ckpt1 to primary. redefine chkpt2, reactivate chkpt2.

Do the same for the other set.

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DFSORT MOD27 support

2005-08-02 Thread Jousma, David
All(hopefully Frank),

I'm not a DFSORT expert, but have some questions(an ETR has 
Already been opened with IBM on this).  We recently
Started adding MOD27's to our SMS management pool that is used
For SORTWKxx allocations.  Jobs that worked in the past now fail
Because DFSORT cannot switch to BLOCKSET mode because of some
Other issue, which when coding SORTDIAG, DFSORT does tell us.  It just
Seems to me that DFSORT doesn't handle MOD27's too well when jobs 
Coded and run for years that work fine with SORTWKxx allocations to 3390-3
or
3390-9 work volumes work just fine.  What are others experience?  Did you
leave
SORTWKxx allocations on mod-9's?  We've got thousands of jobs, and don't
Want to wait for the ticking timebomb.

Other user experiences would be helpful.

Dave

One failed because we were trying to sort RECFM=V
Records with a length of 32760, which I believe to be valid.  If I subtract
4 from that(32756), then the sort works fine, exept the user data is
reported
To be 32760.  See:

ICE201I 0 RECORD TYPE IS V - DATA STARTS IN POSITION 5

ICE024A 1 RECORD LENGTH VALUE ERROR

ICE751I 0 C5-K03171 C6-Q95214 C7-Q96146 C8-K03171 EE-BASE   E7-K03171

ICE800I 0 BLOCKSET TECHNIQUE COULD NOT BE USED - REASON CODE IS 01

ICE802I J PEER/VALETECHNIQUE IN CONTROL

ICE000I J - CONTROL STATEMENTS FOR 5694-A01, Z/OS DFSORT V1R5 - 14:28 ON WED
JUL 27, 2005 -  
   SORT
FIELDS=(226,2,A,232,2,A,228,4,A,234,6,A,214,8,A,72,2,A,61,2,A),  X

 FORMAT=CH,WORK=4

   RECORD TYPE=V,LENGTH=32760

   INPFIL BLKSIZE=32764,VSAM

   OUTFIL BLKSIZE=32764,ESDS

ICE211I J OLD OUTFIL STATEMENT PROCESSING USED

   END

ICE201I J RECORD TYPE IS V - DATA STARTS IN POSITION 5

ICE193I J ICEAM1 ENVIRONMENT IN EFFECT - ICEAM1 INSTALLATION MODULE SELECTED

ICE088I J T90CCLR5.TSSR70  ., INPUT LRECL = 32764, BLKSIZE = 32768,
TYPE = V 
ICE285A J BLOCKSET IS REQUIRED FOR WORK DATA SETS ON VOLUMES WITH MORE THAN
17476 CYLINDERS  


On another, BLOCKSET could not be used because of:

ICE201I 0 RECORD TYPE IS F - DATA STARTS IN POSITION 1  
ICE039A 9 INSUFFICIENT MAIN STORAGE - ADD AT LEAST 16K BYTES
ICE751I 0 C5-K03171 C6-Q95214 C7-Q96146 C8-K03171 E4-Q95214 C9-BASE 
E5-K01972   
E7-K03171   
ICE800I 0 BLOCKSET TECHNIQUE COULD NOT BE USED - REASON CODE IS 01  


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Re: DFSORT MOD27 support

2005-08-02 Thread David Andrews
On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 10:49 -0400, Jousma, David wrote:
 Did you leave SORTWKxx allocations on mod-9's?

I left SORTWKxx allocations on unmanaged public -9s.  Didn't see any
good reason for managing them.

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We're In Demand, but try to find a job, and with a decent salary...

2005-08-02 Thread Gary Green
For those that have an interest in these things; which should be all of
us...

http://www.computerworld.com/hardwaretopics/hardware/story/0,10801,103596,00
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FW: DFSORT MOD27 support

2005-08-02 Thread Jousma, David
 All(hopefully Frank),
 
 I'm not a DFSORT expert, but have some questions(an ETR has 
 Already been opened with IBM on this).  We recently
 Started adding MOD27's to our SMS management pool that is used
 For SORTWKxx allocations.  Jobs that worked in the past now fail
 Because DFSORT cannot switch to BLOCKSET mode because of some
 Other issue, which when coding SORTDIAG, DFSORT does tell us.  It just
 Seems to me that DFSORT doesn't handle MOD27's too well when jobs 
 Coded and run for years that work fine with SORTWKxx allocations to 3390-3
 or
 3390-9 work volumes work just fine.  What are others experience?  Did you
 leave
 SORTWKxx allocations on mod-9's?  We've got thousands of jobs, and don't
 Want to wait for the ticking timebomb.
 
 Other user experiences would be helpful.
 
 Dave
 
 One failed because we were trying to sort RECFM=V
 Records with a length of 32760, which I believe to be valid.  If I
 subtract
 4 from that(32756), then the sort works fine, exept the user data is
 reported
 To be 32760.  See:
 
 ICE201I 0 RECORD TYPE IS V - DATA STARTS IN POSITION 5
 
 ICE024A 1 RECORD LENGTH VALUE ERROR
 
 ICE751I 0 C5-K03171 C6-Q95214 C7-Q96146 C8-K03171 EE-BASE   E7-K03171
 
 ICE800I 0 BLOCKSET TECHNIQUE COULD NOT BE USED - REASON CODE IS 01
 
 ICE802I J PEER/VALETECHNIQUE IN CONTROL
 
 ICE000I J - CONTROL STATEMENTS FOR 5694-A01, Z/OS DFSORT V1R5 - 14:28 ON
 WED JUL 27, 2005 -  
SORT
 FIELDS=(226,2,A,232,2,A,228,4,A,234,6,A,214,8,A,72,2,A,61,2,A),  X
 
  FORMAT=CH,WORK=4
 
RECORD TYPE=V,LENGTH=32760
 
INPFIL BLKSIZE=32764,VSAM
 
OUTFIL BLKSIZE=32764,ESDS
 
 ICE211I J OLD OUTFIL STATEMENT PROCESSING USED
 
END
 
 ICE201I J RECORD TYPE IS V - DATA STARTS IN POSITION 5
 
 ICE193I J ICEAM1 ENVIRONMENT IN EFFECT - ICEAM1 INSTALLATION MODULE
 SELECTED 
 ICE088I J T90CCLR5.TSSR70  ., INPUT LRECL = 32764, BLKSIZE =
 32768, TYPE = V 
 ICE285A J BLOCKSET IS REQUIRED FOR WORK DATA SETS ON VOLUMES WITH MORE
 THAN 17476 CYLINDERS  
 
 
 On another, BLOCKSET could not be used because of:
 
 ICE201I 0 RECORD TYPE IS F - DATA STARTS IN POSITION 1  
 ICE039A 9 INSUFFICIENT MAIN STORAGE - ADD AT LEAST 16K BYTES
 ICE751I 0 C5-K03171 C6-Q95214 C7-Q96146 C8-K03171 E4-Q95214 C9-BASE 
 E5-K01972   
 E7-K03171   
 ICE800I 0 BLOCKSET TECHNIQUE COULD NOT BE USED - REASON CODE IS 01  
 
 
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 Fifth Third Bank
 Information Technology
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Re: Device Independence (was: ... DCB coexistence ...)

2005-08-02 Thread Edward E. Jaffe

Charles Mills wrote:


- This issue affects every developer who wants to write a program that
exploits 31-bit storage (what a concept in 2005!) and still supports
terminal I/O.
 



IIRC, the only real issue is with some DCB exits e.g., EODAD. They can
be handled by creating a below-the-line glue routine for those cases.
I agree that 21st-century programmers shouldn't be burdened with such
things.

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Re: OSA Card Display Command

2005-08-02 Thread Craig Kittendorf
Would this be of any use?

   d tcpip,,net,devlinks

Craig

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Subject: Re: OSA Card Display Command

The suggestions to display the channel types are one way, but all our OSA 
cards have
two channels per physical card.

So we show 8 OSA type channels on each processor, and this equates to four 
physical
slots in the frame. 

Depending on what Ted is trying to figure out this may be relevant 
information. 

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Re: Dilemma of a young Mainframe Systems Programmer

2005-08-02 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Robert Justice
 
 okay, one more, yes, he could learn to use windows where in 
 order to shutdown the system, you must first hit the START button. 

Alt+F4 initiates shutdown without the START button   :-)

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Re: DFSORT MOD27 support

2005-08-02 Thread R.S.

David Andrews wrote:


On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 10:49 -0400, Jousma, David wrote:


Did you leave SORTWKxx allocations on mod-9's?



I left SORTWKxx allocations on unmanaged public -9s.  Didn't see any
good reason for managing them.


Maybe except:
- possibility to keep work datasets on dedicated volumes
- keeping 'accidental' allocations of small permanent datasets away from 
work volumes. These datasets can exhaust work space or at least 
fragmentarize it

- automatization of VIO selection.
- consistent rules regarding UNIT and VOL coding in prod. JCLs.

BTW: I don't code SORTWKxx ddnames. For extremely large sorts I change 
default number of sortWK files.


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Re: Enlarging JES2 checkpoint datasets

2005-08-02 Thread Max Scarpa
Which command should I use to 'move' chekpoint1 to 2 and so on ? $T CKPTDEF
?

Thank you in advance

M. S.

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Re: Dilemma of a young Mainframe Systems Programmer

2005-08-02 Thread Jon Brock
Heh.  I was thinking the same thing: as part of our shutdown procedure we issue 
commands along the lines of S TESTSHUT, etc.

Jon


snip
Heueueue, don't you ADCD users S SHUTDOWN at the system console to bring
your system down?
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Re: Reference for DCB coexistence with RMODE 31 programs?

2005-08-02 Thread Clark Morris
If IBM had designed the ACB to handle QSAM and ALL other access
methods, we wouldn't be having this discussion.  The amount of IBM
code requiring contortions or A-Mode 24 in 2005 is a disgrace.  There
never should have been a need for a DCBE.  The failure to allow ESDS
on tape and provide GDG type naming capabilities also is a sore point
with me.  And don't get me started on requiring a started task (VTAM)
to be up before you could access channel attached SNA devices and not
allowing those devices to be consoles.  

On 1 Aug 2005 12:47:38 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

Okay, I admit it, this is kind of an embarrassingly newbie-ish post for
someone who has been writing assembler for 36 years. My only excuse is
that having sold my old company lock, stock, and barrel, and now working
solo, I have no old reference code to fall back on.
 
I've got some assembler subroutines (non-reentrant) in which I rather
lazily embedded QSAM and BPAM macros. That of course limits the code to
RMODE=24. I would like to move the necessary control blocks to AMODE=24
STORAGE and let the code be RMODE ANY31. (The code currently runs AMODE
ANY with no problems.)
 
Question: is there any reference that provides a succinct statement of
the steps necessary? (If not, why not, but that's a different topic.)
Yes, I know each macro is separately documented in the two DFSMS
manuals, but I mean, is there any overview of the conversion steps
necessary.
 
If there isn't a manual, I would welcome this esteemed group's input. I
need to move the DCB to AMODE=24 STORAGE. I need to point each DCB to
its own DCBE, which can be above the line, and I need to move the
appropriate EODAD= and so forth operands to the DCBE. What else? I don't
need a tutorial on 24-bit adcons or anything, I'm very familiar with the
theoretical concepts and the usage of the macros in general, just what
else specifically do I need to do to get from RMODE 24 code to RMODE
ANY31? I'm familiar with DSECTs and copying model control blocks from
CSECTs to STORAGE areas. What are the gotchas? The code in question has
both DCB abend and SYNAD exits.
 
Thanks!

Charles Mills

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Re: Enlarging JES2 checkpoint datasets

2005-08-02 Thread Mark Jacobs
On Tuesday 02 August 2005 08:56 am, Max Scarpa wrote:
 Which command should I use to 'move' chekpoint1 to 2 and so on ? $T CKPTDEF
 ?

 Thank you in advance

 M. S.

You use the checkpoint recconfiguration dialog to perform tha actual moves. 
The $TCKPTDEF command primes the pump.
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Re: Enlarging JES2 checkpoint datasets

2005-08-02 Thread Ed Finnell
 
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starting
reconfiguration dialog or it can be done via JES2 commands  renaming the old
datasets and the new.




RECONFIG dialogs are the way to go. Don't forget to update JESPARMs  with new 
names. Might want to clean up SPOOL a little before you
start. ===$O Q,ALL,A=5,CANCEL   will purge stuff older than  five
days. And ===$D SPL,JOBS=3 will show anything using more than  3%.

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Re: Dilemma of a young Mainframe Systems Programmer

2005-08-02 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 8/2/2005 8:11:02 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

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FW: From Enterprise Systems: Mainframe Sales Slump Trigger (CA) W orkforce Cuts

2005-08-02 Thread Knutson, Sam
Article from Enterprise Systems : Mainframe Sales Slump Trigger Workforce
Cuts at

 http://www.esj.com/news/article.aspx?EditorialsID=1464

Just one day after IBM Corp. announced its largest-ever mainframe system,
mainframe mainstay Computer Associates International Inc. (CA) announced a
five percent reduction in its work force, triggered-at least in part-by
slackening demand for mainframe software and services. 

All told, CA will cut about 800 jobs. The cause, says the mainframe
software giant, is a slowdown in total bookings, which fell by nearly
one-third during the most recent quarter, to $415 million.


 
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Re: OSA Card Display Command

2005-08-02 Thread Conway, Steven F
Craig Kittendorf sez:
Would this be of any use?

  d tcpip,,net,devlinks

Sweet!  Filing this one away...


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Re: Enlarging JES2 checkpoint datasets

2005-08-02 Thread Max Scarpa
Estimeed listers

Thank you all for replies (online and offline). Your help is really
appreciated !

Best regards

M.S.

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Re: ILR005E PLPA PAGE DATA SET FULL

2005-08-02 Thread Bill Fairchild
 
In a message dated 8/2/2005 8:12:19 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

The 2305  is a general-purpose PAV box, so all user I/O can go  through  
multiple exposures (now called PAV) on it as well as  ASM.


My bad.  I meant the new ESS 2105 is a general-purpose PAV box, not  the 
ancient 2305.  Finger check.
 
Bill Fairchild

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Re: Making smaller ptf packages

2005-08-02 Thread Kurt Quackenbush

Due to our coming late to the table of zOS, we have an enormous load of
ptf's to bring us up to the present day, which I requested from ShopZ. When
they were received it was 4 compressed tapes! Is there a way to have IBM
break this up so we could apply them much easier?


You don't have to apply everything on the tapes at once.

It sounds like you have in hand 4 compressed tapes worth of PTFs, and 
I'll assume you haven't done anything yet with them.  Go ahead and SMP/E 
RECEIVE all of the PTFs from all 4 tapes.  This merely loads them from 
tape into the SMPPTS data set(s) and the global zone... it does not 
affect your target system.  You will probably have to define one or more 
SMPPTS spill data sets to contain all the PTFs.


After you have them staged in the global zone and SMPPTS data sets, you 
can then pick and choose which subset you want to apply to your target 
system; you don't have to apply them all at once.  As already mentioned, 
the two most common selection methods are by FMID and by SOURCEID.  By 
FMID should be pretty obvious, and by SOURCEID for example, you can pick 
the RSU level you want.


Let us know if you have more specific questions.

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VTS and stacking

2005-08-02 Thread Bill Brown
Are there any benefits to stacking files on a tape when using vts?

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SMP/E Bypass Question.

2005-08-02 Thread Howard Rifkind
Hello again,
 
I ran an apply check against a sysmod and the output (causer report) is loaded 
with holds on DOC.
 
I have now checked these out and would like to run the apply check again but 
this time trying to get a report that doens't had these hold for doc 
indications.
 
Could I do this and how?
 
Any help is appreciated, thanks.


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Re: ILR005E PLPA PAGE DATA SET FULL

2005-08-02 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 8/2/2005 9:56:06 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

My  bad.  I meant the new ESS 2105 is a general-purpose PAV box, not   the 
ancient 2305.  Finger check.





Some of the SSD's had 2305 emulation available. Not so ancient.
 

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Re: SMP/E Bypass Question.

2005-08-02 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 8/2/2005 10:15:53 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Could I  do this and how?




You really need to take a class. 
 
BYPASS(HOLDSYS(DOC))

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Re: SMP/E Bypass Question.

2005-08-02 Thread Howard Rifkind
Thanks Ed didn't realize it was this easy.

Ed Finnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Could I do this and how?




You really need to take a class. 

BYPASS(HOLDSYS(DOC))

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VTS SMF 94 vec value zero after LM code 530.08 applied - Fixed

2005-08-02 Thread Patrick . Falcone
This past weekend IBM applied LM code 530.11 with FP 11B to correct the 
situation where the SMF94VEC value is zero and the GUI interface for the 
VTS when looking at the active data screen shows no free cartridge scratch 
space available.

- Forwarded by Patrick Falcone/US/Combined on 08/02/2005 11:12 AM 
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Patrick Falcone
04/28/2005 10:59 AM

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applied

Yea, good point. I just went in there and pulled up the active data 
screen. The value is missing from the GUI as well. Thanks.





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quite a coincidence eh? 

do you have the library web service enabled? if so, you might want to 
check out the active data page and see if the free storage numbers are 
correct. if it's also 0 that may help ibm to nail the problem.

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Thanks Robin. The library id is correct. This is code that has been 
working for quite a while. I tracked down the date where the vec value 
zeroed. It coincided with the date that the LM code had been applied.

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Re: DFSORT MOD27 support

2005-08-02 Thread Ron and Jenny Hawkins
OMG, another MVS recommendation that won't lay down and die!!! (I'm not
dissing you Kees) This one is well past its use by date.

It was (and still is) a very good thing to exclude SORTWK datasets from VIO
when VIO is going out to your locals. Blockset to the SORTWORK datasets will
produce a much faster Sort than ASM will with VIO paging.

However, when Expanded Storage arrived, VIO started going there, and no
longer thrashed away on the Locals. Since then putting small SORTWK into SMS
allocated VIO along with all the other small, temp datasets has been a no
brainer.

Ron

 
 Radoslaw,
 it is highly recommended to exclude SORTWK's from VIO.
 
 Kees.

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Re: VTS and stacking

2005-08-02 Thread McKown, John
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 Are there any benefits to stacking files on a tape when using vts?

Speaking generally, I would say no. For the IBM 3494-B18 in particular,
there are two reasons: 

(1) A virtual tape on an IBM 3494-B18 only takes up the amount of space
required for the labels and the data. You don't waste any space on
the virtual volume.

(2) if you reference just one file on a stacked tape, the entire virtual
volume must be staged to the disk cache. This is a waste of cache and
time.

The only negative, if it is one, is that you need to define more virtual
volumes in your tape management system.

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Re: Enlarging JES2 checkpoint datasets

2005-08-02 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 06:16:09 -0500, Max Scarpa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Estimeed listers

I've the need to enlarge our JES2 checkpoint datasets (the main couple and
the 'spare' dataset) first in test then in prod.

Is there anyone that can provide a quick procedure to do it ? I read JES2
tuning and inizialization guide but I don't understand if I've to define
new datasets (via say IEFBR14) and then (at JES2 cold start) starting
reconfiguration dialog or it can be done via JES2 commands renaming the old
datasets and the new.

Any help will be greatly appreciated

M. S.


If you have access to the SHARE website, download the JES2 Checkpoint
Reconfiguration PDF from SHARE in NY Summber 2004.  Session 2662.

If you can't access the web site, email me offline and I'll send it.

Regards,

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Re: Reference for DCB coexistence with RMODE 31 programs?

2005-08-02 Thread Ray Mullins
Good point, Mark - I'd forgotten about that.  I ran into that exact
scenario.  I guess the trauma of the hunt as to why aren't the buffers
above the line? is being blocked by my subconscious.  :-)

Charles - what Mark said. :-D

Later,
Ray

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I recently encountered a gotcha.While doing something similar to 
what you are doing, I dynamically changed the DCBEDCB field before open with
the appropriate DCBE address.  I thought that would do the trick for the
DCBE.

But as it turns out, the DCBE= parm on the DCB is pretty much required, even
if you use a dummy address.  The invocation of that parm will set a 
couple of bits in the DCB that are required for processing.   Without 
them, the system  seems to ignore your DCBE address, and allocate the
buffers BTL, and of course fail to free them after you close the file.  
So if you intend to use a DCBE address in your DCB, the parm must be coded
in the DCB even if you  have to use a dummy address at assembly time.

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Re: DFSORT MOD27 support

2005-08-02 Thread Frank Yaeger
David Jousma wrote:
I'm not a DFSORT expert, but have some questions(an ETR has Already been
opened with IBM on this).  We recently Started adding MOD27's to our SMS
management pool that is used For SORTWKxx allocations.  Jobs that worked in
the past now fail Because DFSORT cannot switch to BLOCKSET mode because of
some Other issue, which when coding SORTDIAG, DFSORT does tell us.  It just
Seems to me that DFSORT doesn't handle MOD27's too well when jobs Coded
and run for years that work fine with SORTWKxx allocations to 3390-3 or
3390-9 work volumes work just fine.
...

David,

Blockset is far and away DFSORT's most efficient sorting technique and has
become even more so over the years.  We made a business decision a long
time ago NOT to enhance the other much less efficient techniques since they
degrade performance significantly.  So for all but the simplest, oldest
jobs, either Blockset is used or we terminate.  For compatability, we let
some jobs with odd situations still get through to the other techniques,
but we strongly recommend that they be changed to use Blockset.   You are
NOT doing yourself any favors by using these techniques.  Even if your jobs
using these techniques happen to work, they are working very inefficiently.
Blockset provides full MOD27 support for SORTWKs.  The other techniques
don't.  Appropriate error messages are issued when Blockset can't be used
with MOD27s.The first line of attack for a job that doesn't use
Blockset is to change it to use Blockset if possible.  If that's not
possible, then you need to do what it takes to run those jobs with the
other techniques.

Frank Yaeger - DFSORT Team (IBM)
 Specialties: ICETOOL, IFTHEN, OVERLAY, Symbols, Migration
 = DFSORT/MVS is on the Web at http://www.ibm.com/storage/dfsort/
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Re: VTS and stacking

2005-08-02 Thread Kenneth . W . Leidner
Only thing I can think of is that the cost of reloading all of the files
occur on the first tape.  Where if each file was a different virtual tape,
then each virtual tape is a separate reload (longer wait).  

As an example: If you have 20 files on a virtual tape, then there will be
one physical tape mount to move the virtual volume back into cache.  When
that completes all of the 20 files would be in the cache and read from there
with no physical mount.  

If the 20 files were each a virtual volume then there could be up to 20
physical mounts, more that likely 20, to reload each virtual volume back
into cache.  

If there never will be a reload into cache, then stacking gain nothing,
except to guarantee that if you lose one file you lost then all, since they
are all on the same virtual volume and physical volume too.  

Kenneth Leidner
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Re: SMP sloppiness

2005-08-02 Thread Jon Brock
I thought the mantra around here was turning into RTFM. Is it now, RTFM but 
don't trust it?


Jon



snip
If you will note, I said I had installed XA express.

And you trusted its documentation. MVS Express was a dog's breakfast,
and there was no reason to expect XA Express to be any better.
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Re: ILR005E PLPA PAGE DATA SET FULL

2005-08-02 Thread Bill Fairchild
 
In a message dated 8/2/2005 10:15:57 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Some of the SSD's had 2305 emulation available. Not so  ancient.





Right; e.g. STK's 4305 was a SSD equivalent of an IBM 2305 drum.  By  ancient 
I meant the fact that 2305s were being used in the late 1970s for  paging.  
Late 1970s is Jurassic to many these days, but we silverbacks can  remember 
when it was au courant, the cat's meow, etc.
 
Bill Fairchild

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Re: Device Independence (was: ... DCB coexistence ...)

2005-08-02 Thread Charles Mills
 IIRC, the only real issue is with some DCB exits e.g., EODAD

Au contraire, exactly where this thread started is with the issue of
buffers above the line and the possibility of ALLOC DA(*). As I
understand it, if you want buffers above the line (exploit 31-bit
storage) you must EITHER

- explicitly or implicitly disallow terminal output (and input, but that
is not my problem today); or
- dual-path the code to put buffers below the line if you detect ALLOC
DA(*)

Either alternative, I think, qualifies as evidencing a lack of device
independence in the control program.

And further, it is apparently not documented correctly. I am having
success in testing, and no customer complaints, with something that the
manual says will not work (AMODE=31 PUT to terminal).

BTW, I think EODAD gets driven in the caller's AMODE and can be any
RMODE. IIRC the issue is with SYNAD, which always gets driven AMODE=24,
and thus must also start out RMODE=24.

Charles



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Charles Mills wrote:

- This issue affects every developer who wants to write a program that 
exploits 31-bit storage (what a concept in 2005!) and still supports 
terminal I/O.
  


IIRC, the only real issue is with some DCB exits e.g., EODAD. They can
be handled by creating a below-the-line glue routine for those cases.
I agree that 21st-century programmers shouldn't be burdened with such
things.

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z/OS Editors (Was: Dilemma of a young Mainframe Systems Programmer)

2005-08-02 Thread John P Kalinich
John Mckown wrote:

How many  editors are there on z/OS? Basically just one -
ISPF/PDF. Well, I guess  Roscoe (don't know how popular that is anymore).
Oh, and for the rich  people there is WSED.



Ed Finnell wrote:
TSO Edit. Works a lot like EDLIN in DOS.



The Edit/Update function in the CBT REVIEW command processor is similar to
ISPF Edit.

Regards,
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Computer Sciences Corp

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Re: Dilemma of a young Mainframe Systems Programmer

2005-08-02 Thread Thomas Conley

So back to Tyler and his dilemma what would you do when looking at the
current status of the industry and the road ahead? Tyler has had a friend
who is a Manager of the Technical department for a Unix shop begging for
him for years to come automate the system, so throw that into the mix.
Consider the potential death of the mainframe in Tyler's working 
existence,

which would mean he would have to start all over. Consider that Tyler is
rather close to graduating with a Computer Science degree. Consider the
innovation death within mainframe computing and the alternative of Unix,


Tyler,

RUN, DON'T WALK, into that Unix job.  RIGHT NOW.  STOP WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND 
QUIT.  UNIX is the future, and we are the past.  If you are as much of a 
cowboy as Francisco says, Unix will be right up your alley.  Why are you 
even worried about this choice?  This one is a real no brainer.


Regards,
Tom Conley 


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Re: DFSORT MOD27 support

2005-08-02 Thread McKown, John
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snip

 
 However, when Expanded Storage arrived, VIO started going 
 there, and no
 longer thrashed away on the Locals. Since then putting small 
 SORTWK into SMS
 allocated VIO along with all the other small, temp datasets 
 has been a no
 brainer.
 
 Ron

z/OS 1.4 on a zSeries: What Expanded Storage? Does this still apply in
64-bit mode?

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Re: Dilemma of a young Mainframe Systems Programmer

2005-08-02 Thread Scott Doherty
On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 09:54:52 EDT, Ed Finnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


In a message dated 8/2/2005 8:11:02 A.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

How many  editors are there on z/OS? Basically just one -
ISPF/PDF. Well, I guess  Roscoe (don't know how popular that is anymore).
Oh, and for the rich  people there is WSED.




TSO Edit. Works a lot like EDLIN in DOS.

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HSM Enhancements

2005-08-02 Thread Giovanni Cerquone
Hello folks;

1. Do you know if there are any plans to provide full support in HSM for
3592J cartirdges, in the sense to filling up the cartridge to the maximum
possible?. I do understand that the stack use only provides up to for 99
which means up to 99 files in a 3592J cartridge. For most of our cases it
will result in a very poor utilization of that media (allegedly up to
almost 1TB when compressed)?.

2. Do you know if there is any plan to provide HSM with a multithread
restore capability for full volume restore?. Even with the stack function,
HSM could determine if a restore volume request is part of the same stack
or not and make the desicion to start another restore subtask.

3. Any experience using HSM in an IBM VTS 3494-B20 in P2P mode and the
Opentech products?

TIA,

G.

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Re: STK 9840 in 3590 compat mode

2005-08-02 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 8/2/2005 3:42:20 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

No you  cannot.
You can install 3590 drives in STK robot  library



_http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/SG242594.html_ 
(http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/SG242594.html) 
 
Appendix K.

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Re: Dilemma of a young Mainframe Systems Programmer

2005-08-02 Thread Bill Fairchild
 
In a message dated 8/2/2005 11:23:44 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
Dont forget WYLBUR !!

 




And Superwylbur.  I used them both 30 Jurassic years ago.
 
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SOAP on z/OS?

2005-08-02 Thread McKown, John
We are running z/OS 1.4 (1.6 Q4, I think). I have the free HTTPD
server running. Our management wants to integrate (more or less) the
creation and deletion of userids. What they want is for the Windows
people to be more-or-less responsible for adding most users (non-Tech
Services, basically). Using the free HTTPD server, I have created a
series of Web pages which are RACF secured. These pages accept the
required information and do the actual RACF functions in a CGI. OK, I
haven't really done all of that yet, just the proof of concept in that
I don't actually issue the RACF commands.

Anyway, it appears that this is not really what is desired. What is
wanted is a way for the Windows program (?) to do a SOAP request to the
z/OS system and get a response back. I don't know SOAP. I cannot find
any reference to SOAP in the z/OS: HTTP Server Planning, Installing,
and Using manual. I'll bet it is not supported.

Anybody know a good reference web site for doing SOAP stuff via a Web
Server? Anybody know a __FREE__ (as in beer) z/OS Web server which will
do SOAP? Or anything else which is __FREE__ (as in beer) which can
process SOAP requests (can SOAP even require RACF authenication?)

A pointer to a SOAP for Ignorant z/OS Sysprogs would be nice as well.

Please remember that any solution must be __FREE__ (as in beer).


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3490-F11

2005-08-02 Thread Sylvia Gorman

Hi all,

Does anyone out there know how to gen a 3490-F11 on an OS/390 R10 system so 
that it will read and write 3480 18-track format tapes?


This is the equipment:

(2) IBM 3490-F11 Cartridge Tape Units
(1) IBM FC0 rack with a 3000 controller
(1) IBM 3220 ESCON feature

Thanks for any help you can give,
Sylvia

Sylvia Gorman
Associate Director
Enterprise Systems Support
Northern Illinois University
DeKalb, IL 60115
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Re: Dilemma of a young Mainframe Systems Programmer

2005-08-02 Thread Eric Vaughan -- illustro Systems
I agree with Tim's point about transforming the look and feel of the
mainframe's 3270 screens into Web interfaces. The old 3270 interface
continues to make the mainframe appear old. Regardless of the incredible
advances in hardware technology, cost per MIP, and continued record-breaking
availability and reliability, the way that people see and interact with
the mainframe is 30 years old. This makes it appear antiquated, when only
the interface actually is. Since the Web has become the de facto standard
for access to information, mainframers should be moving head long into
trying to make that happen quickly and easily. 

And while Tim suggests Websphere and HATS, there are other products
including our z/Web-Host which has provided immediate and simple
transformation for nearly 5 years, with everything running native on the
zSeries platform, and without the need for Websphere or any other supporting
software. 

But whatever you use---by all means use something! Transforming the way
people see the mainframe is an important element of viability.

**
Eric Vaughan
illustro Systems International, LLC
 --- See The Light---
Visit www.illustro.com to experience:  
 z/Web-Host -- Easy Web Enablement for your Mainframe
 z/XML-Host -- Easy XML Enablement for your Mainframe

Tel: +1.214.800.8900  Fax: +1.214.800.8989
**

 

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 Behalf Of Timothy Sipples
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(Snip) 
 Somehow businesses got rid of those punched cards and teletypes a few
 years ago and replaced them with those newfangled 3270 terminals.  IBM
 mainframes have had Web servers and Web interfaces since 1991.  The first
 Web server outside Europe was installed on a mainframe, at Stanford.  So
 how about if Tyler stops worrying about the few fossils acting like
 fossils -- which exist in any organization.  Tyler should have plenty of
 work to do getting Web interfaces deployed.  There's this newfangled
 software called HATS, and it runs under WebSphere
 
 - - - - -
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 Consulting Software Architect, Enterprise Transformation
 IBM Americas zSeries Software
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Re: SOAP on z/OS?

2005-08-02 Thread brad Taylor
SOAP is Simple Object Access Protocol.  It is often implemented in JAVA.
It is generally designed to implemnt RPC type functionallity using HTTP
protocol, thou it has a greater scope than that.  There is nothing
preventing you from rolling your own, however it may be a piece of work.
If I remember correctly there are 2 pieces UDDI, for publishing the
methods and there parameters, and SOAP request/respones.  It basically
allows XML documents to be executed.  There are open source
implmentations available, check out http://ws.apache.org/soap/ for more
detailed information.

Good luck

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John
 Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 11:29 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: SOAP on z/OS?
 
 
 We are running z/OS 1.4 (1.6 Q4, I think). I have the free 
 HTTPD server running. Our management wants to integrate 
 (more or less) the creation and deletion of userids. What 
 they want is for the Windows people to be more-or-less 
 responsible for adding most users (non-Tech Services, 
 basically). Using the free HTTPD server, I have created a 
 series of Web pages which are RACF secured. These pages 
 accept the required information and do the actual RACF 
 functions in a CGI. OK, I haven't really done all of that 
 yet, just the proof of concept in that I don't actually 
 issue the RACF commands.
 
 Anyway, it appears that this is not really what is desired. 
 What is wanted is a way for the Windows program (?) to do a 
 SOAP request to the z/OS system and get a response back. I 
 don't know SOAP. I cannot find any reference to SOAP in the 
 z/OS: HTTP Server Planning, Installing, and Using manual. 
 I'll bet it is not supported.
 
 Anybody know a good reference web site for doing SOAP stuff 
 via a Web Server? Anybody know a __FREE__ (as in beer) z/OS 
 Web server which will do SOAP? Or anything else which is 
 __FREE__ (as in beer) which can process SOAP requests (can 
 SOAP even require RACF authenication?)
 
 A pointer to a SOAP for Ignorant z/OS Sysprogs would be 
 nice as well.
 
 Please remember that any solution must be __FREE__ (as in beer).
 
 
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Re: VTS and stacking

2005-08-02 Thread Ted MacNEIL
...
The only negative, if it is one, is that you need to define more virtual
volumes in your tape management system.
...

It actually can be a negative in a large MICS shop.
I tried to get the MICS-masters to un-stack when we went VTS.

There wasn't enough 'room' do define all the virtual volumes.
We stayed with stacking those tapes.

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DFSORT Selecting all records today - 365 days

2005-08-02 Thread Ed Long
Hi all.
I'm trying to develop a simple purge using DFSORT that drops all records in the 
input older than 1 year.  The target field is an externalized DB2 timestamp.
So far, the following works, sort of, but is not very elegant. Any suggestions?

SORT FIELDS=(COPY) 

INCLUDE COND=(21,7,CH,EQ,C'2004-07',OR,

21,7,CH,EQ,C'2004-08',OR,

21,7,CH,EQ,C'2004-09',OR,

21,7,CH,EQ,C'2004-10',OR,

21,7,CH,EQ,C'2004-11',OR,

21,7,CH,EQ,C'2004-12',OR,

21,7,CH,EQ,C'2005-01',OR,

21,7,CH,EQ,C'2005-02',OR,

21,7,CH,EQ,C'2005-03',OR,

21,7,CH,EQ,C'2005-04',OR,

21,7,CH,EQ,C'2005-05',OR,

21,7,CH,EQ,C'2005-06',OR,

21,7,CH,EQ,C'2005-07') 



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Re: Dilemma of a young Mainframe Systems Programmer

2005-08-02 Thread Howard Brazee
Another IBM mainframe editor I've used is SYSD.

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Re: DFSORT Selecting all records today - 365 days

2005-08-02 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ed Long
 
 Hi all.
 I'm trying to develop a simple purge using DFSORT that drops 
 all records in the input older than 1 year.  The target field 
 is an externalized DB2 timestamp.
 So far, the following works, sort of, but is not very 
 elegant. Any suggestions?
 
 SORT FIELDS=(COPY) 
 
 INCLUDE COND=(21,7,CH,EQ,C'2004-07',OR,
 
 ...
 
 21,7,CH,EQ,C'2005-07') 


How about

INCLUDE COND=(21,7,CH,GE,C'2004-07')

or

OMIT COND=(21,7,CH,LT,C'2004-07')  ?

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Re: DFSORT Selecting all records today - 365 days

2005-08-02 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 09:59:27 -0700 Ed Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

:Hi all.
:I'm trying to develop a simple purge using DFSORT that drops all records in 
the input older than 1 year.  The target field is an externalized DB2 timestamp.
:So far, the following works, sort of, but is not very elegant. Any 
suggestions?

:SORT FIELDS=(COPY) 

:INCLUDE COND=(21,7,CH,EQ,C'2004-07',OR,
:21,7,CH,EQ,C'2004-08',OR,
:21,7,CH,EQ,C'2004-09',OR,
:21,7,CH,EQ,C'2004-10',OR,
:21,7,CH,EQ,C'2004-11',OR,
:21,7,CH,EQ,C'2004-12',OR,
:21,7,CH,EQ,C'2005-01',OR,
:21,7,CH,EQ,C'2005-02',OR,
:21,7,CH,EQ,C'2005-03',OR,
:21,7,CH,EQ,C'2005-04',OR,
:21,7,CH,EQ,C'2005-05',OR,
:21,7,CH,EQ,C'2005-06',OR,
:21,7,CH,EQ,C'2005-07') 

Sort doesn't have a greater than / less than condition?

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Re: DFSORT Selecting all records today - 365 days

2005-08-02 Thread Thomas Conley
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Hi all.
I'm trying to develop a simple purge using DFSORT that drops all records 
in the input older than 1 year.  The target field is an externalized DB2 
timestamp.
So far, the following works, sort of, but is not very elegant. Any 
suggestions?


SORT FIELDS=(COPY)

INCLUDE COND=(21,7,CH,EQ,C'2004-07',OR,

INCLUDE COND=(21,7,CH,GT,C'2004-06')??? 


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Re: SOAP on z/OS?

2005-08-02 Thread Peggy Andrews
Hi, John.
Lots of time, if I need info on stuff like this, I check out IBM's
DeveloperWorks site - there you could do a Search of all of dw
(developerworks site) for SOAP and get at least more background.

http://www-130.ibm.com/developerworks/

Regards,
Peggy


n Tue, 2 Aug 2005 11:28:49 -0500, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

We are running z/OS 1.4 (1.6 Q4, I think). I have the free HTTPD
server running. Our management wants to integrate (more or less) the
creation and deletion of userids. What they want is for the Windows
people to be more-or-less responsible for adding most users (non-Tech
Services, basically). Using the free HTTPD server, I have created a
series of Web pages which are RACF secured. These pages accept the
required information and do the actual RACF functions in a CGI. OK, I
haven't really done all of that yet, just the proof of concept in that
I don't actually issue the RACF commands.

Anyway, it appears that this is not really what is desired. What is
wanted is a way for the Windows program (?) to do a SOAP request to the
z/OS system and get a response back. I don't know SOAP. I cannot find
any reference to SOAP in the z/OS: HTTP Server Planning, Installing,
and Using manual. I'll bet it is not supported.

Anybody know a good reference web site for doing SOAP stuff via a Web
Server? Anybody know a __FREE__ (as in beer) z/OS Web server which will
do SOAP? Or anything else which is __FREE__ (as in beer) which can
process SOAP requests (can SOAP even require RACF authenication?)

A pointer to a SOAP for Ignorant z/OS Sysprogs would be nice as well.

Please remember that any solution must be __FREE__ (as in beer).


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Re: SOAP on z/OS?

2005-08-02 Thread Peggy Andrews
Also, John, there's an IBM web site for HTTP server where you might be able
to find out if it supports SOAP (might only be supported by the *MORE
EXPENSIVE* - NOT FREE - Websphere Application Server (WAS))

http://www-306.ibm.com/software/webservers/httpservers/library/index.html

Regards,
Peggy


On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 11:28:49 -0500, McKown, John
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

We are running z/OS 1.4 (1.6 Q4, I think). I have the free HTTPD
server running. Our management wants to integrate (more or less) the
creation and deletion of userids. What they want is for the Windows
people to be more-or-less responsible for adding most users (non-Tech
Services, basically). Using the free HTTPD server, I have created a
series of Web pages which are RACF secured. These pages accept the
required information and do the actual RACF functions in a CGI. OK, I
haven't really done all of that yet, just the proof of concept in that
I don't actually issue the RACF commands.

Anyway, it appears that this is not really what is desired. What is
wanted is a way for the Windows program (?) to do a SOAP request to the
z/OS system and get a response back. I don't know SOAP. I cannot find
any reference to SOAP in the z/OS: HTTP Server Planning, Installing,
and Using manual. I'll bet it is not supported.

Anybody know a good reference web site for doing SOAP stuff via a Web
Server? Anybody know a __FREE__ (as in beer) z/OS Web server which will
do SOAP? Or anything else which is __FREE__ (as in beer) which can
process SOAP requests (can SOAP even require RACF authenication?)

A pointer to a SOAP for Ignorant z/OS Sysprogs would be nice as well.

Please remember that any solution must be __FREE__ (as in beer).


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Re: CMC TCP/IP (was: OSA Cards)

2005-08-02 Thread Ted MacNEIL
 d tcpip,,net,devlinks

Thanks everybody who responded.
(8-{]}


I still have one of my original questions unanswered.

Is a CMC still needed (or supported) in a TCP/IP configuration?

Also, where can I look this up.


-teD

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Re: DFSORT Selecting all records today - 365 days

2005-08-02 Thread Ed Long
Please accept this dual purpose response (both to John and to Ben).
 
Yes, the include clause can be coded as GT,GE,LT,LE; however, for some, as yet, 
unknown reason, that construct continued to include older records.
 
The present construct only includes the desired records, but is SQL like in its 
ponderousness.
 
Thanks to both of you for the assist; I guess I was hoping for some kind of 
special register ala SQL as in  GE (CURRENT DATE - 365 DAYS).

Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ed Long
 
 Hi all.
 I'm trying to develop a simple purge using DFSORT that drops 
 all records in the input older than 1 year. The target field 
 is an externalized DB2 timestamp.
 So far, the following works, sort of, but is not very 
 elegant. Any suggestions?
 
 SORT FIELDS=(COPY) 
 
 INCLUDE COND=(21,7,CH,EQ,C'2004-07',OR,
 
 ...
 
 21,7,CH,EQ,C'2005-07') 


How about

INCLUDE COND=(21,7,CH,GE,C'2004-07')

or

OMIT COND=(21,7,CH,LT,C'2004-07') ?

-jc-

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Re: DFSORT Selecting all records today - 365 days

2005-08-02 Thread Howard Brazee
On  2-Aug-2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Binyamin Dissen) wrote:

 :INCLUDE COND=(21,7,CH,EQ,C'2004-07',OR,
 :21,7,CH,EQ,C'2004-08',OR,
 :21,7,CH,EQ,C'2004-09',OR,
 :21,7,CH,EQ,C'2004-10',OR,
 :21,7,CH,EQ,C'2004-11',OR,
 :21,7,CH,EQ,C'2004-12',OR,
 :21,7,CH,EQ,C'2005-01',OR,
 :21,7,CH,EQ,C'2005-02',OR,
 :21,7,CH,EQ,C'2005-03',OR,
 :21,7,CH,EQ,C'2005-04',OR,
 :21,7,CH,EQ,C'2005-05',OR,
 :21,7,CH,EQ,C'2005-06',OR,
 :21,7,CH,EQ,C'2005-07')

 Sort doesn't have a greater than / less than condition?

I think he's wanting to have that date recognized as a date field.

Here's how DFSORT handles dates:
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/iceca107/3.7.12?ACTION=MATCHESREQUEST=dateTYPE=FUZZYSHELF=DT=19990113103506CASE=searchTopic=TOPICsearchText=TEXTsearchIndex=INDEXrank=RANKScrollTOP=FIRSTHIT#FIRSTHIT

 + You can use DFSORT's Y2 formats in conjunction with the century window in
+ effect, as follows:


* + Use the full date formats (Y2T, Y2U, Y2V, Y2W, Y2X and Y2Y) to compare
  + a two-digit year date field to a two-digit year date constant (Y
  + constant) or to another two-digit year date field.


* + Use the year formats (Y2C, Y2Z, Y2S, Y2P, Y2D and Y2B) to compare a
  + two-digit year field to a two-digit year constant (Y constant) or to
  + another two-digit year field.



+ For example, you can include only those records for which a Z'yymm' date
+ field is between January 1996 and March 2005. Or you can include only
+ those records for which a P'dddyy' field is less than another P'dddyy'
+ field.

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Re: DFSORT Selecting all records today - 365 days

2005-08-02 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ed Long
 
 Please accept this dual purpose response (both to John and to Ben).
  
 Yes, the include clause can be coded as GT,GE,LT,LE; however, 
 for some, as yet, unknown reason, that construct continued to 
 include older records.

OK, how about:

INCLUDE COND=(21,7,GE,C'2004-07,AND,
  21,7,LE,C'2005-07'),FORMAT=CH  

-jc-

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Re: Dilemma of a young Mainframe Systems Programmer

2005-08-02 Thread Knutson, Sam
SuperWylbur is not dead yet...

http://www.superwylbur.com/

Thanks, Sam 

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And Superwylbur.  I used them both 30 Jurassic years ago.
 
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Re: SOAP on z/OS?

2005-08-02 Thread Chuck Arney
John, if you want to really understand SOAP you need to look at the
information on the W3C web site (http://www.w3c.org).  You will find more
information about SOAP there than you probably want to read.  But, of course
it is not slanted toward using SOAP on z/OS, or any specific platform.
There are also lots of books available on the subject if you don't like
reading the specs.

You need a SOAP server to understand requests sent by a SOAP client program.
The SOAP server receives the requests (usually via HTTP) and executes the
requested program, passing the supplied input data.  The output of the
program is formatted back into a SOAP response envelop and returned to the
requesting client.  

As far as I know, the z/OS HTTPD does not handle SOAP requests.  If it does,
I am sure someone will chime in and correct me.  So, I don't know of any
_FREE_ (as in beer) SOAP implementations for z/OS.  There are however, a
number of solutions available that run on z/OS.  I wrote one (our z/XML-Host
product) that could be used to SOAP enable the ISPF RACF panels to do what
you want.  But obviously it goes for more than the price of beer.

There are many ways your requirement could be handled, like writing a JAVA
or VB program that would automatically FTP a batch job to JES that would
define the RACF user id.  Using SOAP does make the interface more standard
and therefore writing the client program side perhaps easier, but it's not
the only way to skin the cat if you must use a _FREE_ (as in beer) solution.


Chuck Arney
illustro Systems International, LLC
http://www.illustro.com
Access 3270 data from anywhere with z/XML-Host
Access 3270 apps from the web with z/Web-Host
Access CMS minidisks from OS/390 or VSE with CMSACCess
Voice: 972-296-6166

 -Original Message-
 
SNIP...
 
 Anyway, it appears that this is not really what is desired. What is
 wanted is a way for the Windows program (?) to do a SOAP request to the
 z/OS system and get a response back. I don't know SOAP. I cannot find
 any reference to SOAP in the z/OS: HTTP Server Planning, Installing,
 and Using manual. I'll bet it is not supported.
 
 Anybody know a good reference web site for doing SOAP stuff via a Web
 Server? Anybody know a __FREE__ (as in beer) z/OS Web server which will
 do SOAP? Or anything else which is __FREE__ (as in beer) which can
 process SOAP requests (can SOAP even require RACF authenication?)
 
 A pointer to a SOAP for Ignorant z/OS Sysprogs would be nice as well.
 
 Please remember that any solution must be __FREE__ (as in beer).
 

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Re: Enlarging JES2 checkpoint datasets

2005-08-02 Thread Gabriel Tully
On 8/2/05, Ed Finnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

...snip...
 names. Might want to clean up SPOOL a little before you
 start. ===$O Q,ALL,A=5,CANCEL   will purge stuff older than  five
 days. And ===$D SPL,JOBS=3 will show anything using more than  3%.

My JES2 skills are suspect but I think you mean:

$O JQ,ALL,A5,CANCEL - will purge all HELD output older than 5 days
$PO JQ,AGE5,HELD - Will do the same thing
$PO JQ,AGE5 - will purge output thats not HELD
and finally,
$D JQ,SPL=(%3) - will show anything using more that 3% of spool

JES version:   JES2 
JES level:   S 1.4

Gabe

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New PCs Getting Kicked Off the Mainframe

2005-08-02 Thread Eric Bielefeld
I have a problem that has me baffled on just how to proceed.  Along with
our SAP/R3 project, most of our users are getting new PCs.  Several users
who have had their PCs replaced are complaining that as they enter data in
CICS, they get kicked out.  One particular user enters many many lines of
data, and if she gets kicked out she has to do some special backout, and
then enter all of the data again.  The users are going from Windows 95 PCs
to current PCs running Windows XP.

These are the symptoms.  They get the following message on their PC screen:


T000i-MILLENNIUM SESSION TERMINATED


DFHAC2001 07/29/05 13:25:03 CICSP Transaction '' is not recognized.  Check
that the transaction name is correct.


The user is still in their CICS session, and still logged on to Netview
Access Services (NVAS), but their MD Millennium Session is terminated.  I
suspect that there is something with the PC causing the problem, as this is
only happening with users who have replaced their PCs, but I don't know
that for sure.

We are z/OS 1.2, running on an MP3000-H50.  We run CICS TS 1.3.  All users
on PCs get in through NVAS, and OnNet Host Suite 3270 Terminal emulation.

Has anyone run into problems like this, or have a good idea of where to
look?  I am going to run a trace on their terminal, although I haven't done
that lately.  I'll have to figure out how to start it.

Thanks

Eric Bielefeld
PH Mining Equipment
414-671-7849

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Re: Dilemma of a young Mainframe Systems Programmer

2005-08-02 Thread Dave Salt

John McKown
How many editors are there on z/OS? Basically just one -
ISPF/PDF.


ISPF lets you choose from a very wide range of editors. For example, when 
I'm in a member list and select a member using E for Edit, the member 
opens instantly on my desktop in the NOTEPAD editor. When I've finished 
making changes and close the file, the changes are instantly uploaded back 
to the mainframe. Of course, I could have told ISPF to launch any editor I 
wanted, I just happened to pick NOTEPAD.


Dave Salt
SimpList(tm) - The easiest, most powerful way to surf a mainframe!
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Re: OSA Card Display Command

2005-08-02 Thread BRUCE BODA
who ever is hosting your hardware can set up host on demand and you can get the 
HMC that way. Yes it is a option

- Original Message -
From: Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sunday, July 31, 2005 8:00 pm
Subject: Re: OSA Card Display Command

 ...
 Other than that, I think that any channel defined in the IODF as 
 OSC, OSD, or OSE would be an OSA card.
 ...
 I tried reading the IODF.
 I must be reading it wrong.
 It says that there are 16, at least that's my iterpretation.
 
 I'm in Toronto.
 The HMC is in Texas.
 Not an option!
 
 Isn't there a simple display command?
 
 -teD
 
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Re: DFSORT Selecting all records today - 365 days

2005-08-02 Thread Schneiderwent, Craig
  I guess I was hoping for some kind of special register ala 
  SQL as in  GE (CURRENT DATE - 365 AYS).

See
http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/storage/support/software/sort/mvs/tricks/srtms
t03.html#t07 and
http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/storage/support/software/sort/mvs/tricks/srtms
t03.html#t7r for possible techniques.

[beware URL wrap]

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DFHSM Encryption

2005-08-02 Thread Staller, Allan
Is anyone aware of a method to encrypt DFHSM Backups, Dumps and ML2 data
at time of creation?

An after-the-fact copy of the data is not an acceptable option!

I have RTFM'ed and can find no indication of DFHSM/ICSF (or any other)
encryption support.

THanks in advance,

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Re: New PCs Getting Kicked Off the Mainframe

2005-08-02 Thread Gary Green
Could the 3270 Emulator be sending unsolicited interrupts to the host? 

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Eric Bielefeld
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 3:15 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: New PCs Getting Kicked Off the Mainframe

I have a problem that has me baffled on just how to proceed.  Along with our
SAP/R3 project, most of our users are getting new PCs.  Several users who
have had their PCs replaced are complaining that as they enter data in CICS,
they get kicked out.  One particular user enters many many lines of data,
and if she gets kicked out she has to do some special backout, and then
enter all of the data again.  The users are going from Windows 95 PCs to
current PCs running Windows XP.

These are the symptoms.  They get the following message on their PC screen:


T000i-MILLENNIUM SESSION TERMINATED


DFHAC2001 07/29/05 13:25:03 CICSP Transaction '' is not recognized.  Check
that the transaction name is correct.


The user is still in their CICS session, and still logged on to Netview
Access Services (NVAS), but their MD Millennium Session is terminated.  I
suspect that there is something with the PC causing the problem, as this is
only happening with users who have replaced their PCs, but I don't know that
for sure.

We are z/OS 1.2, running on an MP3000-H50.  We run CICS TS 1.3.  All users
on PCs get in through NVAS, and OnNet Host Suite 3270 Terminal emulation.

Has anyone run into problems like this, or have a good idea of where to
look?  I am going to run a trace on their terminal, although I haven't done
that lately.  I'll have to figure out how to start it.

Thanks

Eric Bielefeld
PH Mining Equipment
414-671-7849

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Re: DFSORT Selecting all records today - 365 days

2005-08-02 Thread Scott Barry
The self-contained REXX code example below will generate a formatted OMIT
statement (using a 365 day cutoff) to an output DD (passed as the REXX EXEC
invocation argument).

Sincerely,

Scott Barry
SBBWorks, Inc.

___


//STEP0EXEC PGM=IEBGENER 
//SYSPRINT DD   DUMMY
//SYSINDD   DUMMY
//* TEMPORARY PDS ALLOCATION BELOW WITH MEMBER NAMED REXXPGM.
//SYSUT2   DD  DISP=(NEW,PASS),  
//  DSN=REXXPDS(REXXPGM),  
//  UNIT=SYSALLDA,SPACE=(TRK,(1,1,1))
//* REXX CODE BELOW IS CREATED IN SYSUT2 MEMBER NAMED ABOVE. 
//SYSUT1   DD   DATA,DLM=ZZ  
/* REXX */   
arg outdd
cutoff = DATE('B') - 365 
omitstr = substr(DATE('S',cutoff,'B'),1,4)||'-'||,   
  substr(DATE('S',cutoff,'B'),5,2)   
queue  OMIT COND=(21,7,CH,LT,C'omitstr') 
EXECIO * DISKW outdd (FINIS  
exit 
ZZ   
//*  
//STEP1EXEC  PGM=IRXJCL,PARM='REXXPGM SORTFILT'  
//SYSEXEC  DD   DISP=(OLD,DELETE),DSN=REXXPDS  
//SORTFILT DD   SYSOUT=* 
//SYSTSPRT DD   SYSOUT=* 
//SYSTSIN  DD   DUMMY


 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ed Long
 
 Hi all.
 I'm trying to develop a simple purge using DFSORT that drops 
 all records in the input older than 1 year. The target field 
 is an externalized DB2 timestamp.
 So far, the following works, sort of, but is not very 
 elegant. Any suggestions?
 
 SORT FIELDS=(COPY) 
 
 INCLUDE COND=(21,7,CH,EQ,C'2004-07',OR,
 
 ...
 
 21,7,CH,EQ,C'2005-07') 

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Re: DFSORT Selecting all records today - 365 days

2005-08-02 Thread Frank Yaeger
Ed Long wrote:

Yes, the include clause can be coded as GT,GE,LT,LE; however, for some, as
yet, unknown reason, that construct continued to include older records.

Which construct?  Older records with what dates?  DFSORT has no problem
handling GT, GE, LT, LE for INCLUDE or OMIT, so I'm wondering what the user
error was here.  :-)

The present construct only includes the desired records, but is SQL like
in its ponderousness.

The following non-ponderous construct is equivalent to the ponderous
construct and gives the same results:

  INCLUDE COND=(21,7,CH,GE,C'2004-07',AND,21,7,CH,LE,C'2005-07')

Thanks to both of you for the assist; I guess I was hoping for some kind
of special register ala SQL as in  GE (CURRENT DATE - 365 DAYS).

Well, you're mixing up current date formats here.  If your date is a mm
date (or variation), then you'd want to subtract 12 months, not 365 days.
If your date was a mmdd or ddd variation, then you'd want to
substract 365 days.  DFSORT has DATE2 for mm, but doesn't allow
addition or subraction of months from it.  DFSORT has DATE1 for mmdd
and DATE3 for ddd, but doesn't allow addition or subtraction of days
from it.  However, we consider that a high priority candidate for a future
enhancement to DFSORT.

Frank Yaeger - DFSORT Team (IBM)
 Specialties: ICETOOL, IFTHEN, OVERLAY, Symbols, Migration
 = DFSORT/MVS is on the Web at http://www.ibm.com/storage/dfsort/
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Re: SOAP on z/OS?

2005-08-02 Thread Shmuel Koller

1) If you have CICS - it is a SOAP server.
There are escapes from CICS to APF authorized code (RACF macros).

2) If open source Java SOAP server like Axis   can run  z/OS JVM (not 
ure)  -

z/OS JVM comes with some Security Server Java classes that bridge to
underlying RACF macros.

3) You can consider a broader scope of Identity Management suite (aka RACF
front end)  - these days they come with SOAP integration  (named SPML,
WS-Provisioning)

4) As posted recently in RACF-L, you can front end RACF with an LDAP client 
on

Win/Unix/Linux box - box where you host the SOAP server (there are many,
Perl, C, Java, open source). I mean  SOAP server accepts requests and gets
via LDAP client to RACF.

Shmuel Koller
Discount Bank

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Re: OSA Card Display Command

2005-08-02 Thread Ted MacNEIL
...
who ever is hosting your hardware can set up host on demand and you can get the 
HMC that way. Yes it is a option
...

No. It's not.
1. Security.
2. Confidentiality.
3. HOD is no longer free.

-teD

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Updating the Esoteric Table

2005-08-02 Thread Robert Pelletier
Hi All. Is there a way to update the ESOTERIC table dynamically without 
building a new 
SYS1.IODF##? If a device is NOT in the ESOTERIC table is it accessible with JCL 
or will you get invalid device? We are OS/390 V2R10. Once again I thank the 
group. 



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Re: DFHSM Encryption

2005-08-02 Thread Gibney, David Allen,Jr
  Encrypt the data when the files are first written . 

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Subject: DFHSM Encryption

Is anyone aware of a method to encrypt DFHSM Backups, Dumps and ML2 data
at time of creation?

An after-the-fact copy of the data is not an acceptable option!

I have RTFM'ed and can find no indication of DFHSM/ICSF (or any other)
encryption support.

THanks in advance,

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Re: DFSORT Selecting all records today - 365 days

2005-08-02 Thread Frank Yaeger
craig.schneiderwent wrote:

See
http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/storage/support/software/sort/mvs/tricks/srtms

t03.html#t07 and
http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/storage/support/software/sort/mvs/tricks/srtms

t03.html#t7r for possible techniques.

[beware URL wrap]

The t07 trick is for date, not for date-n.  The t7r trick will work for
mmdd-365 and can be adapted for ddd-365, but will not work for
mm-12.

Frank Yaeger - DFSORT Team (IBM)
 Specialties: ICETOOL, IFTHEN, OVERLAY, Symbols, Migration
 = DFSORT/MVS is on the Web at http://www.ibm.com/storage/dfsort/

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Re: Updating the Esoteric Table

2005-08-02 Thread Raymond Noal
Robert,

You should be able to update your system dynamically by making your changes
to the ESOTERICs and then issue the z/OS command - ACTIVATE IODF=XX,SOFT
This does imply that you built a new IODF that is different from your
current IODF but you do not need to actually rebuild a new IOCDS. However,
you should build a new IOCDS/IODF in preparation for your next (planned, I
hope) IML and/or IPL and/or POR of your system. The EDT is only (re)built at
IPL time and as a result of the ACTIVATE command.

You could also build a new IOCDS and IODF and use the activate command as
follows:

ACTIVATE IODF=XX,ACTIOCDS=YY,FORCE=(DEVICE,CANDIDATE)

Now, both your IOCDS and IODF will be in sync. Since your only change was to
the EDT, this should not be a problem.

HTH

HITACHI 
 DATA SYSTEMS

Raymond E. Noal
Lab Manager, San Diego Facility
Office: (858) 537 - 3268
Cell:   (858) 248 - 1172


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Subject: Updating the Esoteric Table

Hi All. Is there a way to update the ESOTERIC table dynamically without
building a new 
SYS1.IODF##? If a device is NOT in the ESOTERIC table is it accessible with
JCL or will you get invalid device? We are OS/390 V2R10. Once again I thank
the group. 



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Re: New PCs Getting Kicked Off the Mainframe

2005-08-02 Thread Dave Ulrick

On Tue, 2 Aug 2005, Kreiter, Chuck wrote:


We had a similar problem last week with a new XP PC.  The resolution
was:  The only thing I can think of is changing Mochasoft to termtype2.


Although we've not had the same exact symptoms, we did see mainframe users 
who had difficulty in logging in to VTAM apps after they upgraded to new 
PCs.  Their most common symptom was that their 3270 window would hang 
after they entered a VTAM application name at the VTAM welcome screen. 
It turned out that their 3270 emulation software didn't run reliably with 
the Pentium 4 hyperthreading feature turned on.  Turning off 
hyperthreading fixed the problem.  The software was Attachmate Extra! 
and the OS was Windows XP.


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Re: DFHSM Encryption

2005-08-02 Thread Staller, Allan
snip
 Encrypt the data when the files are first written
/snip

That's the idea, but how?

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Re: New PCs Getting Kicked Off the Mainframe

2005-08-02 Thread Eric Bielefeld
I really don't know.  I've never done much with networking.  Right now, I'm
trying to figure out what to trace with GTF.

Eric Bielefeld
PH Mining Equipment

On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 15:44:36 -0400, Gary Green [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

Could the 3270 Emulator be sending unsolicited interrupts to the host?

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Subject: New PCs Getting Kicked Off the Mainframe

I have a problem that has me baffled on just how to proceed.  Along with
our
SAP/R3 project, most of our users are getting new PCs.  Several users who
have had their PCs replaced are complaining that as they enter data in
CICS,
they get kicked out.  One particular user enters many many lines of data,
and if she gets kicked out she has to do some special backout, and then
enter all of the data again.  The users are going from Windows 95 PCs to
current PCs running Windows XP.

These are the symptoms.  They get the following message on their PC screen:


T000i-MILLENNIUM SESSION TERMINATED


DFHAC2001 07/29/05 13:25:03 CICSP Transaction '' is not recognized.  Check
that the transaction name is correct.


The user is still in their CICS session, and still logged on to Netview
Access Services (NVAS), but their MD Millennium Session is terminated.  I
suspect that there is something with the PC causing the problem, as this is
only happening with users who have replaced their PCs, but I don't know
that
for sure.

We are z/OS 1.2, running on an MP3000-H50.  We run CICS TS 1.3.  All users
on PCs get in through NVAS, and OnNet Host Suite 3270 Terminal emulation.

Has anyone run into problems like this, or have a good idea of where to
look?  I am going to run a trace on their terminal, although I haven't done
that lately.  I'll have to figure out how to start it.

Thanks

Eric Bielefeld
PH Mining Equipment
414-671-7849

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Re: Updating the Esoteric Table

2005-08-02 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 8/2/2005 3:28:25 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hi All.  Is there a way to update the ESOTERIC table dynamically without 
building a new  
SYS1.IODF##? If a device is NOT in the ESOTERIC table is it accessible  with 
JCL or will you get invalid device? We are OS/390 V2R10. Once again I  thank 
the group. 




Nope. There are the generics;i.e. 3390 and the  VATLST. 

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Re: DFSORT Selecting all records today - 365 days

2005-08-02 Thread Ed Long
Thanks to all for participating.
 
Here we go:
I did previously see all of the date stuff in the Fine  Manual, as subsetted 
and reprinted by Howard. None of the examples that I could find- note to Frank, 
please increase the number of examples - include the externalized  DB2 format 
as in 2004-07-25 (Note the dashes and the 4 digit year). Note that the subset 
reprinted by Howard is all 2 digit years. I saw no examples of a 4 digit year 
- 2 digit month - 2 digit Day etc. 

Any of the INCLUDES so far, either of Frank's or either of mine, suffer from 
the same maintenance problem.  I'm not actually getting 365 days worth; I'm 
getting somewhere between 365 and 395 days worth depending upon the day of the 
month that the job runs on. The job runs weekly on Saturday.  Once a month I 
have to remember to edit this control card to include the new month and delete 
the oldest. I have trouble remembering lunch.
 
Scott's suggestion may be the slickest so far; essentially generating the 
control cards weekly just before use.  
 
I tried following Craig's URL's; no such page on either one. I'll come back to 
that later this afternoon. 
 
I am curious though that no one has yet suggested ICETOOL.
 
Thanks again to all of you for the assist.

Frank Yaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ed Long wrote:

Yes, the include clause can be coded as GT,GE,LT,LE; however, for some, as
yet, unknown reason, that construct continued to include older records.

Which construct? Older records with what dates? DFSORT has no problem
handling GT, GE, LT, LE for INCLUDE or OMIT, so I'm wondering what the user
error was here. :-)

The present construct only includes the desired records, but is SQL like
in its ponderousness.

The following non-ponderous construct is equivalent to the ponderous
construct and gives the same results:

INCLUDE COND=(21,7,CH,GE,C'2004-07',AND,21,7,CH,LE,C'2005-07')

Thanks to both of you for the assist; I guess I was hoping for some kind
of special register ala SQL as in GE (CURRENT DATE - 365 DAYS).

Well, you're mixing up current date formats here. If your date is a mm
date (or variation), then you'd want to subtract 12 months, not 365 days.
If your date was a mmdd or ddd variation, then you'd want to
substract 365 days. DFSORT has DATE2 for mm, but doesn't allow
addition or subraction of months from it. DFSORT has DATE1 for mmdd
and DATE3 for ddd, but doesn't allow addition or subtraction of days
from it. However, we consider that a high priority candidate for a future
enhancement to DFSORT.

Frank Yaeger - DFSORT Team (IBM)
Specialties: ICETOOL, IFTHEN, OVERLAY, Symbols, Migration
= DFSORT/MVS is on the Web at http://www.ibm.com/storage/dfsort/
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Re: Reference for DCB coexistence with RMODE 31 programs?

2005-08-02 Thread Clark Morris
On 2 Aug 2005 08:08:13 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

Just a question out of sheer curiosity: what do you mean by GDG type naming 
capabilities?  Are you talking about being able to have date/time as part of 
the generation name or some such?

There is no equivalent of PROD.FILE(+1) for an ESDS.  The current
implementation of changing (+1) to GVnn could be replaced by a
different naming convention that accomplishes the same thing
Gnnn.Vnn and more sophistication in specification of relative
generation numbers.  I just don't want to have to change JCL data set
names for each instance of an ESDS.

Jon



snip
The failure to allow ESDS
on tape and provide GDG type naming capabilities also is a sore point
with me.  And don't get me started on requiring a started task (VTAM)
to be up before you could access channel attached SNA devices and not
allowing those devices to be consoles.  
/snip

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Re: Updating the Esoteric Table

2005-08-02 Thread Gabe Torres
 


Hi All. Is there a way to update the ESOTERIC table dynamically without
building a new SYS1.IODF##? If a device is NOT in the ESOTERIC table is
it accessible with JCL or will you get invalid device? We are OS/390
V2R10. Once again I thank the group. 

Bob Pelletier
.


Bob,
  Just did this last week to add an esoteric for a migration package,
combining 3480 and 3490 as the esoteric 'SARTAPE'.
 
I couldn't figure a way around not creating a new IODF.  Eventually
created a new IODF with a new EDT (02), then entered the command:
 ACTIVATE IODF=XX,EDT=02

I was able to go back to the old EDT=01,..and then back to EDT=02 to
test.  

Good luck,
 Gabe

 

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Re: DFSORT Selecting all records today - 365 days

2005-08-02 Thread Frank Yaeger
Edward Long wrote:

 I did previously see all of the date stuff in the Fine  Manual, as
 subsetted and reprinted by Howard. None of the examples that I could
 find- note to Frank, please increase the number of examples -
 include the externalized  DB2 format as in 2004-07-25 (Note the
 dashes and the 4 digit year). Note that the subset reprinted by
 Howard is all 2 digit years. I saw no examples of a 4 digit year -
 2 digit month - 2 digit Day etc.

I'll include such an example in the APG for the next go around.

 Any of the INCLUDES so far, either of Frank's or either of mine,
 suffer from the same maintenance problem.  I'm not actually getting
 365 days worth; I'm getting somewhere between 365 and 395 days worth
 depending upon the day of the month that the job runs on. The job
 runs weekly on Saturday.  Once a month I have to remember to edit
 this control card to include the new month and delete the oldest. I
 have trouble remembering lunch.

I'm a little confused at this point.  Is the date in your records a -mm
date or a -mm-dd date?  I thought it was a -mm date and you wanted
to subtract 12.  I didn't have a good trick for that.  If it's actually a
-mm-dd date and you want to subtract 365 days from it, then the Smart
DFSORT Trick at:

http://www.ibm.com/servers/storage/support/software/sort/mvs/tricks/srtmst03.html#t7r

could be adapted to set up the the current -mm-dd date - 365 days as a
symbol and use it in the INCLUDE statement as follows:

//TSOBATCH EXEC PGM=IKJEFT1A,DYNAMNBR=200
//SYSEXEC DD DSN=userid.REXXD.REXX,DISP=SHR
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=*
//OUTFILE DD DSN=S1,UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(TRK,(1,1)),
// DISP=(,PASS),LRECL=80,RECFM=FB,DSORG=PS
//SYSTSIN DD *
%REXXEDL
//S2EXEC  PGM=ICEMAN
//SYSOUTDD  SYSOUT=*
//SYMNAMES DD DSN=S1,DISP=(OLD,PASS)
//SORTIN DD DSN=... input file
//SORTOUT DD DSN=...  output file
//SYSINDD*
  OPTION COPY
  INCLUDE COND=(21,10,CH,GE,RELDATE)
/*

REXXEDL would have the following REXX code (sorry if this isn't the best
REXX code, but my knowledge of REXX is spotty - anyway it should give you
the idea):

/* REXX */
EXECIO 0 DISKW OUTFILE(OPEN   /* OPEN FILE */
A=DATE('S',DATE('B')-365,'B')
B=SUBSTR(A,1,4)-SUBSTR(A,5,2)-SUBSTR(A,7,2)
QUEUE RELDATE,C||'||B||'
EXECIO 1 DISKW OUTFILE (FINIS
FREE FI(OUTFILE)

This creates a DFSORT Symbol like this:

RELDATE,C'-mm-dd'

for the current date - 365 days.


 Scott's suggestion may be the slickest so far; essentially
 generating the control cards weekly just before use.

I think the solution above is similar to Scott's solution.


 I tried following Craig's URL's; no such page on either one. I'll
 come back to that later this afternoon.

Hmmm... this URL works:

http://www.ibm.com/servers/storage/support/software/sort/mvs/tricks/srtmst03.html#t7r

Make sure you have the whole thing since it wraps.


 I am curious though that no one has yet suggested ICETOOL.

DFSORT has the INCLUDE and date functions.  ICETOOL doesn't have any
extensions to that.  You could wrap an ICETOOL job around the DFSORT
control statements, but it wouldn't really provide any additional function.
ICETOOL adds lots of functions to DFSORT, but this isn't one of them.

 Thanks again to all of you for the assist.

Frank Yaeger - DFSORT Team (IBM)
 Specialties: ICETOOL, IFTHEN, OVERLAY, Symbols, Migration
 = DFSORT/MVS is on the Web at http://www.ibm.com/storage/dfsort/
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Re: DFSORT Selecting all records today - 365 days

2005-08-02 Thread Mike Bell
Choices I see
1. use the DB2 date facilities when the unload tape is created. REORG
with DISCARD processing will purge records with single column date
manipulation.
2. use INREC to build a DFSORT type date field and then use OMIT logic
from Frank that will let you do 1 year.  Use OUTREC to remove the date
field.
3. write a REXX to generate control cards or pass the file directly.

I am waiting for the ability of DFSORT to invoke REXX directly.  That
would let me do all kind of fixes without ever writing a full program.

Mike

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Re: New PCs Getting Kicked Off the Mainframe

2005-08-02 Thread Gabriel Tully
Check the keyboard mapping of the emulator?  Perhaps there is a key
that has changed and is causing the disconnect.

Good Luck,

Gabriel

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Re: Reference for DCB coexistence with RMODE 31 programs?

2005-08-02 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 18:16:40 -0300, Clark Morris wrote:

Just a question out of sheer curiosity: what do you mean by GDG type
naming capabilities?  Are you talking about being able to have date/time
as part of the generation name or some such?

There is no equivalent of PROD.FILE(+1) for an ESDS.  The current
implementation of changing (+1) to GVnn could be replaced by a
different naming convention that accomplishes the same thing
Gnnn.Vnn and more sophistication in specification of relative
generation numbers.  I just don't want to have to change JCL data set
names for each instance of an ESDS.

If you want IBM to take your ESDS-GDG requirement seriously, you might want
to beef up that business case a wee bit.

I just don't want to doesn't have a whole lot of weight (unless, perhaps,
you are Warren Buffet or Bill Gates).


snip
The failure to allow ESDS on tape and provide GDG type naming
capabilities also is a sore point with me.
/snip

Tapes are becoming largely obsolete - why waste any time on that support
now?

However, more generalized GDG support might be a very nice thing to add to
z/OS (or its successor) since that is a fairly big differentiator between
z/OS and *nix systems.  I've heard MANY *nix administrators and programmers
lament over the lack of GDG-style support on their platforms.  (Most of
them attempt to reinvent that wheel and most attempts that I've seen missed
quite a few cogs and spokes.)  There might well be a lot of business value
to IBM if z/OS would generalize the GDG support to (a) VSAM and (b) zFS
files, and then perhaps carry that support back out to the iSeries and
pSeries platforms (after crowing about it on z/OS first).

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Re: 3490-F11

2005-08-02 Thread Barry Schwarz
I'm not a hardware expert but my understanding is that a 3490 will read 18 
track (3480) with no problem.  It will not ever write 18 track, only 36 track.

Sylvia Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi all,

Does anyone out there know how to gen a 3490-F11 on an OS/390 R10 system so 
that it will read and write 3480 18-track format tapes?

This is the equipment:

(2) IBM 3490-F11 Cartridge Tape Units
(1) IBM FC0 rack with a 3000 controller
(1) IBM 3220 ESCON feature


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Re: Reference for DCB coexistence with RMODE 31 programs?

2005-08-02 Thread Mark Thomen
Tom Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 18:16:40 -0300, Clark Morris wrote:
 
 Just a question out of sheer curiosity: what do you mean by GDG type
 naming capabilities?  Are you talking about being able to have
date/time
 as part of the generation name or some such?
 
 There is no equivalent of PROD.FILE(+1) for an ESDS.  The current
 implementation of changing (+1) to GVnn could be replaced by a
 different naming convention that accomplishes the same thing
 Gnnn.Vnn and more sophistication in specification of relative
 generation numbers.  I just don't want to have to change JCL data set
 names for each instance of an ESDS.

 If you want IBM to take your ESDS-GDG requirement seriously, you might
want
 to beef up that business case a wee bit.

 I just don't want to doesn't have a whole lot of weight (unless,
perhaps,
 you are Warren Buffet or Bill Gates).

Not likely to happen.  VSAM files have totally different format in the
catalog than GDS records.  The incompatibilities would make it extremely
difficult to handle GDS files.  Also, there would be problems in a user
creating a ESDS, then a non-VSAM, etc, and attempting to read them using
relative generation numbers.  Generic VSAM files have other problems, such
as associations - AIXes and PATH names, and the truenames for those AIX and
PATh records would cause problems when the base VSAM rolled off the GDG.
VSAM files with associations would rapidly fill up the GDG base record,
causing other problems by using extension records which are a performance
impact.

And there are expectations of GDS's being non-VSAM - that's the way they
were designed 40 years ago and changing that now could disrupt all kinds of
vendor, user-written utilities, and other programs.

If you want to use GDS's, then export the file to a GDS and when you want
to use it, IMPORT it back into a VSAM file.  Simple solution.

 snip
 The failure to allow ESDS on tape and provide GDG type naming
 capabilities also is a sore point with me.
 /snip

 Tapes are becoming largely obsolete - why waste any time on that support
 now?

I strongly disagree.  Tapes are not even close to obsolete - however,
putting VSAM files on tape is an anachronism.  See previous suggestion
about export/import.  Sorry it's a sore point with Clark, but I guess it
will always be a sore point.

Thanks,
Mark Thomen
Catalog/IDCAMS/VSAM Development
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Re: Reference for DCB coexistence with RMODE 31 programs?

2005-08-02 Thread Ray Mullins
There's one mid-level OS that has supported something similar to GDG's for a
long time - (Open)VMS.  It has had versioning for a long, long time
(filename.ext;version#).

Now if HP would port it to the x86 platform...but I'll admit, that's a lot
of work.  I'm sure lots of it is written in assembler.

Later,
Ray


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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Tom Schmidt
Sent: Tuesday August 02 2005 15:19

(snipped GDG stuff)

However, more generalized GDG support might be a very nice thing to add to
z/OS (or its successor) since that is a fairly big differentiator between
z/OS and *nix systems.  I've heard MANY *nix administrators and programmers
lament over the lack of GDG-style support on their platforms.  (Most of them
attempt to reinvent that wheel and most attempts that I've seen missed quite
a few cogs and spokes.)  There might well be a lot of business value to IBM
if z/OS would generalize the GDG support to (a) VSAM and (b) zFS files, and
then perhaps carry that support back out to the iSeries and pSeries
platforms (after crowing about it on z/OS first).


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Shutdown

2005-08-02 Thread Paul Hanrahan
There is the every popular IBM Shutdown with a restart option on VM.

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Re: Making smaller ptf packages

2005-08-02 Thread Shane Ginnane
Kurt wrote on 03/08/2005 01:01:06 AM:


 You don't have to apply everything on the tapes at once.

 It sounds like you have in hand 4 compressed tapes worth of PTFs, and
 I'll assume you haven't done anything yet with them.  Go ahead and SMP/E
 RECEIVE all of the PTFs from all 4 tapes.  This merely loads them from
 tape into the SMPPTS data set(s) and the global zone... it does not
 affect your target system.  You will probably have to define one or more
 SMPPTS spill data sets to contain all the PTFs.

That (somewhat) offhand last sentence is generally more of an issue than
the APPLY.
Watch what happens when you have a PTS dataset (or 2, or ...) that are
full, and you do a large receive.
It ain't pretty. Better than before maybe, but I hate watching all those
compresses.
We, like others, swapped the order of the spills to alleviate this.

And just try using spills with the batch TSO invocation JCL that
ShopzSeries suggest if you ftp an order down and install locally.

Shane ...
(yes I do know how to run ACCEPT to clear the PTS - that ain't the issue
under discussion)

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