Re: Retry: Problem on NetView V2R2M1

2006-03-23 Thread Marco Gianfranco Indaco
Thank, Mr Jim and John.
To help you I will post the feedback copied from the server regarding the
RSN 592.
I don't know how reproduce this kind of error that is not common so I will
be grateful
for any advice about all.
(The text about the error begin with a 000 and end with 999 so if for any
reason the text
will be truncated I hope that you will ask me to resend it all)
I hope in this.
000
DVG066I  PROCESSING STARTED FOR REQUEST NUMBER =3D 319 ; REQUEST NAME =3D

DVG075I  SESSION NOT STARTED WITH yyy; LOGICAL UNIT IS
UNUSABLE
DVG065I  ACF/VTAM APPCCMD MACRO ERROR; OPERAND CODE =3D CNOS ; RETURN CODE =
IN
RPL =3D 00; FEEDBACK FIELD
DVG065I  IN RPL =3D 0B; SENSE CODE IN RPL6 =3D 8000; APPC PRIMARY RETUR=
N
CODE =3D 0008; APPC SECONDARY RETURN CODE =3D 
DVG660I  JOB FINEMALE(JOB49920) SUBMITTED; MEMBER NAME =3D member; DATA SET
NAME =3D Library
DVG111I  MESSAGE FROM USER-EXIT ROUTINE DVGPCBAS; MESSAGE =3D DVGPCNV invok=
ed
on local system, lu unusable: try again
DVG250I  REQUEST AVAILABLE FOR AUTOMATIC TRANSFER
RESTART
DVG020I


DVG003I  FILE TRANSFER ENDED FOR REQUEST NUMBER 319 ON 06/02/23 AT 23:00:06=
;
RC =3D 16 ; RSN =3D 592
DVG020I

999

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Need Data in Virtual (DIV) SMF Records To Test DAF

2006-03-23 Thread Michael Cleary
Greetings,
 
I am in need of Data in Virtual (DIV) SMF Type 41
Records to Test DAF.

041 000 DIV Objects and VLF Statistics 
041 001 - ACCESS   
041 002 - UNACCESS 
041 003 - VLF statistics   

Of specific interest are the ST001's and ST002's.

This is a low volume SMF Record, so a weeks worth
would be nice.

Cheers,

Michael

http://www.geocities.com/michaeljosephcleary/

===

Instructions:

1) Creat the SMF file with IFASMFDP and XMIT the SMF
file (JCL below)

2) do a binary transfer of the XMIT file to your PC

3) Zip the downloaded file

4) e-mail me the zipped file as an attachment



Here is JCL to create the SMF file and XMIT it.

//SYSUID.SMF JOB (TECHY),'CLEARY',CLASS=U,   
   
// MSGCLASS=X,MSGLEVEL=(1,1),NOTIFY=SYSUID.  
   
//DELETE  EXEC PGM=IEFBR14
   
//DELETE1   DD
DSN=ZTGP01.SMFTXXX,DISP=(MOD,DELETE,DELETE),   
// UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(CYL,(1,1)),  
   
// DCB=(RECFM=VBS,LRECL=32760,BLKSIZE=27998,BUFNO=64) 
   
//DELETE2   DD
DSN=ZTGP01.SMFTXXX.XMI,DISP=(MOD,DELETE,DELETE),   
// UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(CYL,(1,1)),  
   
// DCB=(RECFM=VBS,LRECL=32760,BLKSIZE=27998,BUFNO=64) 
   
//IFASMFDP EXEC PGM=IFASMFDP  
   
//DUMPINDD
DISP=SHR,DSN=DCTR.SMFDUMP.ACCUM.BBC1(+0),  
// DCB=(BUFNO=64) 
   
//DUMPOUT   DD
DSN=ZTGP01.SMFTXXX,DISP=(NEW,CATLG,CATLG), 
// UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(CYL,(100,50),RLSE),  
   
//
DCB=(RECFM=VBS,LRECL=32760,BLKSIZE=27998,BUFNO=64) 
//SYSIN DD *  
   
  INDD(DUMPIN,OPTIONS(DUMP))  
   
  OUTDD(DUMPOUT,TYPE(XXX))
   
//SYSPRINT  DD SYSOUT=*   
   
//IKJEFT01 EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01  
//SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTSIN  DD *   
XMIT ANYNODE.ANYUSER +
 DATASET('ZTGP01.SMFTXXX') +  
 OUTDATASET('ZTGP01.SMFTXXX.XMI')



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Re: TOD Sync acroos platforms (IBM and non-IBM) - STP?

2006-03-23 Thread Roy Hewitt

Dave,

If by processor you mean the sZeries CPC, then your understanding
might be a little off...

My understanding is that the timer just sends timing signals to the CPC,
it is unaware of what the CPC is doing. Basically it is a one way
process. Whether there is a CLO or not, the 9037 never gets the time
from the CPCs. It just sends the time and stepping signals to control
the CPC clock rate. (it also sends  offsets for daylight saving/Leap
seconds etc). The only thing the 9037 is aware of is that there is a CPC
connected at the other end of the port. So long as there is a link
established, then it doesn't know what the CPC is doing with the
information. If your CPC is connected to 2 9037 ports, then both 9037
ports send data unaware as to which port is being used by the CPC. The 
only thing the 9037 knows about the CPC is how far away it is.

It determines this so that it can tune the signal on each port to take
account of time delay etc..

If there isn't a CLO card then you're right in that the clock on the
9037 processor board is used as the time source. However, if you have a
CLO card (which is required when you hook up 2 timers), then I believe
that internally to the 9037 it is the CLO card(s) that are used to
maintain the clock and its steering rate. These use some sort of voltage
controlled oscillator to maintain syncronisation with two timer units
and to enable the clock rate to steer to a corrected time. Whether the
corrected time is a manual input, or from an ETS, I don't think makes
much difference to the CLO - it just steers the clock to the new time.

Regards

Roy


Dave Kopischke wrote:



And my understanding of the function of the timer is to steer the onboard
clocks on the processor. The processor clocks are always the source of time
information. The timer compares the time from the external source to the
time on the processor and either slows the clock down or speeds it up until
they match. If you don't have a CLO card, the timer itself is the time
source (your wristwatch is probably more accurate). You can't get more than
four seconds out of synch or the timer won't be able to generate the proper
steering impulses to get the clocks back in synch. There's lots of detail
in the manuals if you care to attempt to understand it.

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FDR Compaktor - missing/reappearing data sets

2006-03-23 Thread J Ellis
we have run into an issue where compaktor is running on sys1 and df/dss is
running data set backup's on sys2. what appears to happen is that when
compaktor is working a volume that dss is backing up from, data sets
go 'missing' unitl compaktor is done. the dss backup spits out an ADR321E
data set not on volume but finds the data set when the backup job is
resubmitted and compaktor has released the volume. The dss parms specifiy
tol(enqF). We use GRS-star, do not globally convert all reserves, do have
this coded RNLDEF RNL (CON) TYPE (GENERIC) QNAME (SYSVTOC)
I suspect this is just a timing matter and the defrags shouldn't be running
in the storage group where batch production is running, but thought I would
ask if I'm may be missing anything in the RNL's or with Compaktor.

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Re: TOD Sync acroos platforms (IBM and non-IBM) - STP?

2006-03-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Roy Hewitt said:

 Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 12:42:46 +
 
 My understanding is that the timer just sends timing signals to the CPC,
 it is unaware of what the CPC is doing. Basically it is a one way
 process. Whether there is a CLO or not, the 9037 never gets the time
 from the CPCs. It just sends the time and stepping signals to control
 the CPC clock rate. (it also sends  offsets for daylight saving/Leap
 seconds etc).
 
What initially sets the content of the TOD clock at IPL (or
is it POR) time.  IIRC, there is some setting that can only be
accomplished at POR.  Is there a clock in the HMC, so the
data path for that initial setting might be:

ETR to HMC (at POR)
HMC to TOD (at IPL)?

 Dave Kopischke wrote:
 
  And my understanding of the function of the timer is to steer the onboard
  clocks on the processor. The processor clocks are always the source of time
  information. The timer compares the time from the external source to the
  time on the processor and either slows the clock down or speeds it up until
  they match. If you don't have a CLO card, the timer itself is the time
  source (your wristwatch is probably more accurate). You can't get more than
  four seconds out of synch or the timer won't be able to generate the proper
  steering impulses to get the clocks back in synch. There's lots of detail
  in the manuals if you care to attempt to understand it.
 
I recall we once got about 15 seconds out of sync, and were able
to recover without the dreaded POR by repeatedly issuing manual
commands to steer by a couple seconds until after about a week
the ETR was within tolerance to sync to NIST dialup.  I believe
an IBM employee (Greg Dyck?) has supplied instructions for doing
this on this list.

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Re: Clock syncronization between platforms

2006-03-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Chris Mason said:

 Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 03:44:26 +0100
 
 Incidentally, both these servers use UDP rather than TCP - I know I'm being
 finicky :-) According to RFC 868, TCP is allowed for this time
 synchronization function but TIMED uses only UDP.
 
I suspect there's good motivation for preferring UDP.  The complex
error recovery for TCP is likely to increase the uncertainty of
packet arrival time.

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Re: z990 IP Consoles

2006-03-23 Thread Diehl, Gary (MVSSupport)
Craig,

You got me.  Maybe there is a significant difference between your z890
and the z990 we tested on.  Or perhaps it was a microcode issue and has
been repaired.  We last tried it during the February through April 2005
timeframe.

Cheers,

Gary Diehl

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I'm confused.  We have use ICC and on one OSA-E and currently we have 7
Consoles and 7 VTAM sessions defined on each of four LPARs for a total
of 56 sessions.  We can have a max of 120 clients so will be adding some
more VTAM sessions. The consoles are defined as NIP consoles and are
available and one is the IPL console.

Admittly, we only been up on our z890 since Feb 4 but only had two
outages.  We lost one out of seven consoles due to a clear subchannel
interrupt missing and all of them when the network folk took the switch
off line.

Craig

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Compare z900, z890/z990, z9

2006-03-23 Thread Chase, John
Hi, All,

Looking for a comparison between all the z/Boxen with regard to:

1.  Sub-capacity licensing availability / support,
2.  Turbo vs non-Turbo:  What it means, where/when it applies, etc.
3.  Capacity models:  meaning, applicability.

I've set the Reply-to: for offlist replies direct to me.

TIA,

-jc-

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Re: (fwd) RE: Contractor vs. employee was RE: 3380-3390 Conversion

2006-03-23 Thread Richard Tsujimoto
Clark wrote:
Having read Bob Shannon's comment about contractors breaking the
watch, have I been elevated to the lofty category of consultant
because I normally didn't break the programs or system?  If it weren't
for Bob's great service to SHARE and to the field, I might really get
annoyed.

Having been a consultant/contractor for over 26 years (I did try being an 
employee for about 8 yrs), I've learned to accept the sniping - it goes 
with the territory.  It's pointless to get into a pissing match.  In 
truth, there's incompetency on both sides of the fence, as well as some 
very good people.  But, I do take exception to that comment about the 
difference between a consultant and contractor.  A contractor would simply 
pocket the watch after telling the customer the time.  We're a lot more 
subtle than consultants.  grin

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Re: (fwd) RE: Contractor vs. employee was RE: 3380-3390 Conversion

2006-03-23 Thread Bob Shannon
Having read Bob Shannon's comment about contractors breaking the watch,

have I been elevated to the lofty category of consultant because I 
normally didn't break the programs or system?  If it weren't for Bob's 
great service to SHARE and to the field, I might really get annoyed.

Sorry, but I did not make those comments. I presume they were made by
another Bob with SHARE experience.

Bob Shannon

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3490 mount POD display problem?

2006-03-23 Thread McKown, John
Our tape operators are saying that there are times when the flashing M
on the 3490's display is not there. The volser is there, but without the
flashing M, they believe that the tape is mounted. Has anybody else
had this problem on z/OS 1.6? Apparently this is an intermittent
problem, not a hard failure. But it does cause definate problems to them
since they watch the 3490 displays more than the z/OS console.

Oh, no hits that looked reasonable on IBMLink that I could find. Not
that that means much of anything.

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Re: TOD Sync acroos platforms (IBM and non-IBM) - STP?

2006-03-23 Thread Roy Hewitt

Paul Gilmartin wrote:


What initially sets the content of the TOD clock at IPL (or
is it POR) time.  IIRC, there is some setting that can only be
accomplished at POR.  Is there a clock in the HMC, so the
data path for that initial setting might be:

ETR to HMC (at POR)
HMC to TOD (at IPL)?

The HMC is not used in any of the time setting process. Remember the HMC 
is purely optional, its only an operator aid, you can POR/IPL without it 
by using the Support Element (SE) (the Thinkpad inside the CPC). There 
is an option to sync the HMC time with the time on the SE


As for the POR time, I suppose it depends on the CPC model in use. But 
with the latest zZeries it gets the TOD time from the 9037 - if you have 
one. If not, it gets the initial time from the Support Element at POR. 
That being said if you POR without a 9037, then connect one afterwards, 
it just gets on with life and uses the 9037 value. This I know as I 
recently did a lot of work with new CPCs and timers. The timer was 
connected after the POR and all was ok. Just to add to the loop the SE 
will sync to the CPC once a day


With IPL time, each LPAR has its own virtual TOD clock that is initially 
set when the partition is activated. The initial value is usually that 
of the CPC TOD. If there is a 9037 and the Opsys supports it then it 
will use the 9037 time and can accept offset changes etc.  The LPAR 
profile has options to enable the use of the 9037 and also to specify 
any offset value



I recall we once got about 15 seconds out of sync, and were able
to recover without the dreaded POR by repeatedly issuing manual
commands to steer by a couple seconds until after about a week
the ETR was within tolerance to sync to NIST dialup.  I believe
an IBM employee (Greg Dyck?) has supplied instructions for doing
this on this list.


Setting a new 9037 time to drift to can be a real pain due to the 4.999 
seconds maximum value at a rate 1 sec per 12 hours - i had to adjust 45 
secs recently.I never understood why this maximum value was so low. Then 
recently I saw some possible  explanation for the low value. I was 
testing the 9037 ETS a few weeks back and for some reason, not sure why, 
the time that was interpreted from the dialup modem was way off, about 
21 hours in advance. As this was over the maximum if ignored the value 
and disabled the ETS. I suppose a sensible approach. What would have 
been better would to have the 4.999 secs for ETS, but a manual offset 
greater than this could prompt for are you sure.


Regards

Roy

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WLM Question

2006-03-23 Thread Terry Linsley
Greetings,

We have recently suffered some pain due to logic error in our subsytem DDF
classification rules.  I have made corrections to those rules and performance
has improved.  But I would like to see concrete proof that all DDF threads are
being classified to the service classes I expect.

Is there an RMF/SMF report which whould show, for a specific time span, every
DDF thread that executed and to which service class it was classified?
Barring that, is there any kind of report that would even get me close?
We have TMON, but I have not found anything there at that level of detail.
I have been looking through WLM and RMF manuals, but found nothing at that
level of detail there either.  Does anyone else do that level of reporting
for troubleshooting.

Environment: OS/390 2.10, DB2 v7

TIA

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Re: 3490 mount POD display problem?

2006-03-23 Thread Brian Peterson
I believe there are two separate components that can issue the CCW command
which causes the display on the 3490 tape drive.

Allocation: 5752SC1B4
Open/Close/EOV: 5695DF107

Here's what I would do:  Try to get specific examples of mounts where the
message is missing.  Were they associated with mount message IEF233A -
that's Alocation.  Were they associated with IEC501A - that's
Open/Close/EOV.

If you find that all examples the operators come up with are Allocation,
open a PMR with Allocation.  If Open/Close/EOV, then OCE.  If both, then
perhaps it might be a hardware problem.

Just a suggestion - hope it helps!

Brian

On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 08:45:01 -0600, McKown, John
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Our tape operators are saying that there are times when the flashing M
on the 3490's display is not there. The volser is there, but without the
flashing M, they believe that the tape is mounted. Has anybody else
had this problem on z/OS 1.6? Apparently this is an intermittent
problem, not a hard failure. But it does cause definate problems to them
since they watch the 3490 displays more than the z/OS console.

Oh, no hits that looked reasonable on IBMLink that I could find. Not
that that means much of anything.

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Re: 3490 mount POD display problem?

2006-03-23 Thread McKown, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Peterson
 Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:04 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: 3490 mount POD display problem?
 
 
 I believe there are two separate components that can issue 
 the CCW command
 which causes the display on the 3490 tape drive.
 
 Allocation: 5752SC1B4
 Open/Close/EOV: 5695DF107
 
 Here's what I would do:  Try to get specific examples of 
 mounts where the
 message is missing.  Were they associated with mount message IEF233A -
 that's Alocation.  Were they associated with IEC501A - that's
 Open/Close/EOV.
 
 If you find that all examples the operators come up with are 
 Allocation,
 open a PMR with Allocation.  If Open/Close/EOV, then OCE.  If 
 both, then
 perhaps it might be a hardware problem.
 
 Just a suggestion - hope it helps!
 
 Brian

Thanks. Too bad our tape operators tend to get the deer in the head
lights look when you try to talk techie to them. I cannot blame them,
tho. We are planning to eliminate the position of tape operator
completely (ATL + VTS replacing them). All the current tape operators
will be print operators only (they are dual purpose right now), so
nobody will be let go (like people were trying to get away?).

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Re: WLM Question

2006-03-23 Thread Porowski, Ken
SDSF has an ENC (Enclave) display that might be of use.  Not sure if it
was available at 2.10 level though. 

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Behalf Of Terry Linsley
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:54 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: [IBM-MAIN] WLM Question

Greetings,

We have recently suffered some pain due to logic error in our subsytem
DDF classification rules.  I have made corrections to those rules and
performance has improved.  But I would like to see concrete proof that
all DDF threads are being classified to the service classes I expect.

Is there an RMF/SMF report which whould show, for a specific time span,
every DDF thread that executed and to which service class it was
classified?
Barring that, is there any kind of report that would even get me close?
We have TMON, but I have not found anything there at that level of
detail.
I have been looking through WLM and RMF manuals, but found nothing at
that level of detail there either.  Does anyone else do that level of
reporting for troubleshooting.

Environment: OS/390 2.10, DB2 v7

TIA

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Re: 3490 mount POD display problem?

2006-03-23 Thread Brian Peterson
Could you simply ask them to give you a list of VOLSERs where the M did not
appear?  Then, you could look up the associated message number in SYSLOG
yourself.  That's really what I meant, anyway

Brian

On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 10:12:24 -0600, McKown, John
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Peterson
 Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:04 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: 3490 mount POD display problem?


 I believe there are two separate components that can issue
 the CCW command
 which causes the display on the 3490 tape drive.

 Allocation: 5752SC1B4
 Open/Close/EOV: 5695DF107

 Here's what I would do:  Try to get specific examples of
 mounts where the
 message is missing.  Were they associated with mount message IEF233A -
 that's Alocation.  Were they associated with IEC501A - that's
 Open/Close/EOV.

 If you find that all examples the operators come up with are
 Allocation,
 open a PMR with Allocation.  If Open/Close/EOV, then OCE.  If
 both, then
 perhaps it might be a hardware problem.

 Just a suggestion - hope it helps!

 Brian

Thanks. Too bad our tape operators tend to get the deer in the head
lights look when you try to talk techie to them. I cannot blame them,
tho. We are planning to eliminate the position of tape operator
completely (ATL + VTS replacing them). All the current tape operators
will be print operators only (they are dual purpose right now), so
nobody will be let go (like people were trying to get away?).

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Re: WLM Question

2006-03-23 Thread Terry Linsley
Thanks for the suggestion.  Unfortunately not available in 2.10.  Yet more
proof that management has delayed our move to z/OS for far too long.



On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 11:15:30 -0500, Porowski, Ken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

SDSF has an ENC (Enclave) display that might be of use.  Not sure if it
was available at 2.10 level though.

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Terry Linsley
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:54 AM
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Subject: [IBM-MAIN] WLM Question

Greetings,

We have recently suffered some pain due to logic error in our subsytem
DDF classification rules.  I have made corrections to those rules and
performance has improved.  But I would like to see concrete proof that
all DDF threads are being classified to the service classes I expect.

Is there an RMF/SMF report which whould show, for a specific time span,
every DDF thread that executed and to which service class it was
classified?
Barring that, is there any kind of report that would even get me close?
We have TMON, but I have not found anything there at that level of
detail.
I have been looking through WLM and RMF manuals, but found nothing at
that level of detail there either.  Does anyone else do that level of
reporting for troubleshooting.

Environment: OS/390 2.10, DB2 v7

TIA

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Re: 3490 mount POD display problem?

2006-03-23 Thread McKown, John
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 Could you simply ask them to give you a list of VOLSERs where 
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 number in SYSLOG
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Hum, that sounds doable. I'm a bit slow today, I guess.

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Re: WLM Question

2006-03-23 Thread Staller, Allan
I believe this information is available in RMF III...
In a former life, I had this information (os/290 2.9). 
I do not currently process any work that uses DDF, so I can't point you
to specifics.
I believe this information is also available in SYSRPTS(WKL)? In the RMF
post processor.

If nothing else, report classes could be assigned in the DDF
classification and the 
Changes verified indirectly.

HTH,

snip
Is there an RMF/SMF report which whould show, for a specific time span,

every DDF thread that executed and to which service class it was 
classified?
Barring that, is there any kind of report that would even get me close?
We have TMON, but I have not found anything there at that level of 
detail.
I have been looking through WLM and RMF manuals, but found nothing at 
that level of detail there either.  Does anyone else do that level of 
reporting for troubleshooting.
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Re: WLM Question

2006-03-23 Thread Rob Scott
The trouble with enclaves is that they can be very short lived things
and catching the tiddlers with the SDSF or MXI ENC commands is a
matter of luck or furious enter pressing.

I don't think that SDSF ENC was available for OS/390 R10 - however I
believe that the MXI ENC command will work (its been a while since I
have tried it on that level of MVS).

The programming interface to get enclave information is IWMRQRY and the
information that this reports on is updated approximately every 0.25 of
a second - WLM rather helpfully issues a system ENF event to tell
listeners that new data is available to save them getting the same
information twice.

From the information returned by IWMRQRY you can get the WLM classes
assigned to the enclave - so theoretically you could roll yer own
application to capture this info and report on it - BUT this is going to
cost you some serious CPU.

What does RMF III on OS/390 R10 provide?

Rob Scott
Rocket Software
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Re: WLM Question

2006-03-23 Thread Staller, Allan
 Rob Scott Wrote:
snip
What does RMF III on OS/390 R10 provide?
/snip


I am currently z/OS 1.4 and at that level the RMF Overview Detail
reports provide report ENCL
Enclave resource consumption and delays (option 1.6 from the RMF III
primary menu). ISTR this
Same option available at OS/390 2.9 (where I did process DDF/ENCLAVE
work).

As I said, I do not currently process and DDF or ENCLAVE work, so I
can't be more specific.

HTH,

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NOMAIL

2006-03-23 Thread Gabe Torres
NOMAIL 

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Re: WLM Question

2006-03-23 Thread Diehl, Gary (MVSSupport)
Terry,

As was stated before, SDSF has the ENC or ENC ACTIVE displays for
seeing what is currently going on, and RMF3 has the ENCL panel to look
back through recent history (as far back as your datasets go).

In regards to long-term reporting, we do overview tracking for DDF
Enclaves by extensively using reporting classes.  Each time a new DDF
enclave classification is installed in WLM, we find out who the owner
is, and add an appropriate report class to their qualification rule.  We
can track each business unit, and each DDF classification within that
business unit, using RMF reports.  Granted, this isn't a super-detailed
level of reporting, it's much more of a summary/overview, but it will
quickly tell us how each class of DDF transactions is performing and
which SRVCLASS they found their way into.

HTH,

Gary Diehl



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Subject: WLM Question


Greetings,

We have recently suffered some pain due to logic error in our subsytem
DDF
classification rules.  I have made corrections to those rules and
performance
has improved.  But I would like to see concrete proof that all DDF
threads are
being classified to the service classes I expect.

Is there an RMF/SMF report which whould show, for a specific time span,
every
DDF thread that executed and to which service class it was classified?
Barring that, is there any kind of report that would even get me close?

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z900 Capacity Models?

2006-03-23 Thread Chase, John
At http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/z900/glance.html I
see this:

Hardware models 
General purpose models 101-109, 110-116, 210-216 
Capacity models 1C1-1C9, 2C1-2C9

However, I don't see a definition of Capacity models; nor do I see
anything that would intuitively distinguish between a general purpose
model and a capacity model, other than the C in the model number.

Can somebody give me a clue what capacity model means?

TIA,

-jc-

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Re: WLM Question

2006-03-23 Thread Terry Linsley
Thanks for the response.  Would like to avoid RYO for this.  And I can well
imagine it would be a hog.  But, I don't really need this info continuously.
Basically I just want to report on a busy one hour period during our
business day.  Don't know what RMF III will give me at this level.  We are
not currently running it.  But, I shall get running and see what it offers.



On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 11:36:30 -0500, Rob Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

The trouble with enclaves is that they can be very short lived things
and catching the tiddlers with the SDSF or MXI ENC commands is a
matter of luck or furious enter pressing.

I don't think that SDSF ENC was available for OS/390 R10 - however I
believe that the MXI ENC command will work (its been a while since I
have tried it on that level of MVS).

The programming interface to get enclave information is IWMRQRY and the
information that this reports on is updated approximately every 0.25 of
a second - WLM rather helpfully issues a system ENF event to tell
listeners that new data is available to save them getting the same
information twice.

From the information returned by IWMRQRY you can get the WLM classes
assigned to the enclave - so theoretically you could roll yer own
application to capture this info and report on it - BUT this is going to
cost you some serious CPU.

What does RMF III on OS/390 R10 provide?

Rob Scott
Rocket Software
http://www.rs.com/portfolio/mxi/

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Re: WLM Question

2006-03-23 Thread Terry Linsley
Thanks.  As soon as I get RMF III up and running, I will investigate that
report.

On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 10:42:57 -0600, Staller, Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Rob Scott Wrote:
snip
What does RMF III on OS/390 R10 provide?
/snip


I am currently z/OS 1.4 and at that level the RMF Overview Detail
reports provide report ENCL
Enclave resource consumption and delays (option 1.6 from the RMF III
primary menu). ISTR this
Same option available at OS/390 2.9 (where I did process DDF/ENCLAVE
work).

As I said, I do not currently process and DDF or ENCLAVE work, so I
can't be more specific.

HTH,

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Re: WLM Question

2006-03-23 Thread Terry Linsley
Gary,

Thanks for the response.  ENC is not available at our os level (2.10).  I am
in the process of getting RMF III running and will see if that helps.  After
some investigation, it looks like whomever implemented WLM here did not
define any report classes.  I assume that was because they were getting
similar information from TMON.  But I will define some for DDF see what I
get there.


On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 10:57:29 -0600, Diehl, Gary (MVSSupport)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Terry,

As was stated before, SDSF has the ENC or ENC ACTIVE displays for
seeing what is currently going on, and RMF3 has the ENCL panel to look
back through recent history (as far back as your datasets go).

In regards to long-term reporting, we do overview tracking for DDF
Enclaves by extensively using reporting classes.  Each time a new DDF
enclave classification is installed in WLM, we find out who the owner
is, and add an appropriate report class to their qualification rule.  We
can track each business unit, and each DDF classification within that
business unit, using RMF reports.  Granted, this isn't a super-detailed
level of reporting, it's much more of a summary/overview, but it will
quickly tell us how each class of DDF transactions is performing and
which SRVCLASS they found their way into.

HTH,

Gary Diehl



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Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 9:54 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: WLM Question


Greetings,

We have recently suffered some pain due to logic error in our subsytem
DDF
classification rules.  I have made corrections to those rules and
performance
has improved.  But I would like to see concrete proof that all DDF
threads are
being classified to the service classes I expect.

Is there an RMF/SMF report which whould show, for a specific time span,
every
DDF thread that executed and to which service class it was classified?
Barring that, is there any kind of report that would even get me close?

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Re: WLM Question

2006-03-23 Thread Shane
Like Gary, I also heavily use report groups.
If memory serves, SDSF ENC support appeared at z/OS 1.2, and so is
unavailable to Terry.
As of 1.4 it's still severely limited.

Everything I've seen posted in this thread has been true for
*independent* enclaves - dependant enclaves, whilst rare can be much
harder to handle.
They basically ignore your (DDF) classification rules.

Shane ...

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Re: WLM Question

2006-03-23 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 3/23/2006 11:49:34 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Thanks.  As soon as I get RMF III up and running, I will  investigate that
report.




Don't forget to define RMFGAT! It may be in the instructions, but
I missed it in the test system and it locks up the whole  magilla...

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Re: z900 Capacity Models?

2006-03-23 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Apparently the capacity models are bumps in the speed road.  The 2Cx
models are referred to as the turbo models.  As an example, from
Cheryl's CPU chart, the model 101 was rated at 216 average MIPS, the 1C1
was 225 MIPS, and the 2C1 was 275 MIPS.  

HTH

Rex

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Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 11:47 AM
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Subject: z900 Capacity Models?


At http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/z900/glance.html I
see this:

Hardware models 
General purpose models 101-109, 110-116, 210-216 
Capacity models 1C1-1C9, 2C1-2C9

However, I don't see a definition of Capacity models; nor do I see
anything that would intuitively distinguish between a general purpose
model and a capacity model, other than the C in the model number.

Can somebody give me a clue what capacity model means?

TIA,

-jc-

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Re: WLM Question

2006-03-23 Thread Terry Linsley
That last comment is a little alarming!  Our DDF traffic is 1/3 MS Access,
1/3 DB2 connect, and 1/3 locally developed java apps.  Of the three, MS
Access causes the most pain hands down.

Is there a straight forward method of determining if an enclave is
dependant?  Would an example of one be when a DB2 utility spawns multiple
threads to build an index during a table load or recovery?


On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 03:56:15 +1000, Shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Like Gary, I also heavily use report groups.
If memory serves, SDSF ENC support appeared at z/OS 1.2, and so is
unavailable to Terry.
As of 1.4 it's still severely limited.

Everything I've seen posted in this thread has been true for
*independent* enclaves - dependant enclaves, whilst rare can be much
harder to handle.
They basically ignore your (DDF) classification rules.

Shane ...

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Re: WLM Question

2006-03-23 Thread Terry Linsley
Owie.  Thanks, will watch out for that.


On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 12:57:38 EST, Ed Finnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


In a message dated 3/23/2006 11:49:34 A.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Thanks.  As soon as I get RMF III up and running, I will  investigate that
report.




Don't forget to define RMFGAT! It may be in the instructions, but
I missed it in the test system and it locks up the whole  magilla...

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Re: z900 Capacity Models?

2006-03-23 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
John,

In addition, there are differences in the MCM within the boxes.  Check
out the following PDF, starting at page 18 for the answers to your
question.

http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/library/refguides/pdf/g326
3092.pdf

Rex

Apparently the capacity models are bumps in the speed road.  The 2Cx
models are referred to as the turbo models.  As an example, from
Cheryl's CPU chart, the model 101 was rated at 216 average MIPS, the 1C1
was 225 MIPS, and the 2C1 was 275 MIPS.  

HTH

Rex

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Behalf Of Chase, John
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 11:47 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: z900 Capacity Models?


At http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/z900/glance.html I
see this:

Hardware models 
General purpose models 101-109, 110-116, 210-216 
Capacity models 1C1-1C9, 2C1-2C9

However, I don't see a definition of Capacity models; nor do I see
anything that would intuitively distinguish between a general purpose
model and a capacity model, other than the C in the model number.

Can somebody give me a clue what capacity model means?

TIA,

-jc-

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Re: z900 Capacity Models?

2006-03-23 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex R.
 
 John,
 
 In addition, there are differences in the MCM within the 
 boxes.  Check out the following PDF, starting at page 18 for 
 the answers to your question.
 

http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/library/refguides/pdf/g326
3092.pdf
 
 Rex

Thanks.

-jc-

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Re: FDR Compaktor - missing/reappearing data sets

2006-03-23 Thread Stephen Mednick
 I would be giving the folks at IDP call on this.

Stephen Mednick
Computer Supervisory Services
Sydney, Australia

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 Subject: FDR Compaktor - missing/reappearing data sets
 
 we have run into an issue where compaktor is running on sys1 
 and df/dss is running data set backup's on sys2. what appears 
 to happen is that when compaktor is working a volume that dss 
 is backing up from, data sets go 'missing' unitl compaktor is 
 done. the dss backup spits out an ADR321E data set not on 
 volume but finds the data set when the backup job is 
 resubmitted and compaktor has released the volume. The dss 
 parms specifiy tol(enqF). We use GRS-star, do not globally 
 convert all reserves, do have this coded RNLDEF RNL (CON) 
 TYPE (GENERIC) QNAME (SYSVTOC) I suspect this is just a 
 timing matter and the defrags shouldn't be running in the 
 storage group where batch production is running, but thought 
 I would ask if I'm may be missing anything in the RNL's or 
 with Compaktor.
 

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Re: WLM Question

2006-03-23 Thread Todd Burch
Terry, I might be able to help with TMON, if it's TMON for DB2 you are
referring to.

Contact me off list and we can discuss what you are wanting to know.
Perhaps there is a facility through TMON for DB2's log files and our Report
Writer that would provide the information you want.

Todd   (  todd dot burch at asg dot com )


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Subject: WLM Question


 Greetings,

 We have recently suffered some pain due to logic error in our subsytem DDF
 classification rules.  I have made corrections to those rules and
performance
 has improved.  But I would like to see concrete proof that all DDF threads
are
 being classified to the service classes I expect.

 Is there an RMF/SMF report which whould show, for a specific time span,
every
 DDF thread that executed and to which service class it was classified?
 Barring that, is there any kind of report that would even get me close?
 We have TMON, but I have not found anything there at that level of detail.
 I have been looking through WLM and RMF manuals, but found nothing at that
 level of detail there either.  Does anyone else do that level of reporting
 for troubleshooting.

 Environment: OS/390 2.10, DB2 v7

 TIA


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Re: using 3390 mod-9s

2006-03-23 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler

Anne  Lynn Wheeler wrote:

the study was eventually turned into a presentation by the
disk division delivered to Guide and Share user group meetings
in the '84 time-frame (some extracts from the presentation)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001l.html#46 MVS History (all parts)


the above is an old posting of the preface to the share presentation. 
the title page for that share presentation is


SHARE 63 Presentation B874

DASD Performance Review
8:30 August 16, 1984
Dr. Peter Lazarus

IBM Tie Line 543-3811
Area Code 408-463-3811
GPD Performance Evaluation
Department D18
Santa Teresa Laboratory
555 Bailey Avenue
San Jose, CA., 95150



for a little more drift, STL had told me that even if i provided them 
with fully tested and integrated FBA support for MVS ... that it would 
still cost $26m to ship ... and I didn't have an ROI business case for 
that $26m (i.e. it would just sell the same amount of FBA disk in place 
of CKD disk ... so no really new revenue).


The transition to FBA would have (at least) converted the I/O 
extravagant multi-track search paradigm for VTOC and PDS directories to 
data structures that were loaded (and cached) in memory for 
search/lookup. The multi-track search paradigm from the mid-60s that 
represented a trade-off in relatively abundant I/O resources for 
relatively abundant real storage resources ... was no longer valid even 
ten years later.


OS/360 did get partial mitigation for the effects of multi-track search 
(and loading) with RAM and BLDL lists.


past postings in this thread:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006e.html#45 using 3390 mod-9s
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006e.html#46 using 3390 mod-9s
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006f.html#0 using 3390 mod-9s
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006f.html#1 using 3390 mod-9s
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006f.html#2 using 3390 mod-9s

misc. past posts about STL quoting $26m additional to ship MVS FBA 
support (even after for already fully integrated and tested).

http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/97.html#16 Why Mainframes?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/97.html#29 IA64 Self Virtualizable?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/99.html#75 Read if over 40 and have 
Mainframe  background

http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000.html#86 Ux's good points.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000f.html#18 OT?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000g.html#51  512 byte disk blocks (was: 
4M pages are a bad idea)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001.html#54 FBA History Question (was: RE: 
What's the meaning of track overfl ow?)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001d.html#64 VTOC/VTOC INDEX/VVDS and 
performance (expansion of VTOC position)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2001g.html#32 Did ATT offer Unix to Digital 
Equipment in the 70s?

http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002.html#5 index searching
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002.html#10 index searching
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002g.html#13 Secure Device Drivers
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002l.html#47 Do any architectures use 
instruction count instead of timer

http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003.html#15 vax6k.openecs.org rebirth
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003c.html#48 average DASD Blocksize
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003m.html#56 model 91/CRJE and IKJLEW
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004d.html#65 System/360 40 years old today
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004g.html#15 Infiniband - practicalities 
for small clusters
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004l.html#20 Is the solution FBA was Re: 
FW: Looking for Disk Calc
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004l.html#23 Is the solution FBA was Re: 
FW: Looking for Disk Calc

http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2004n.html#52 CKD Disks?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005c.html#64 Is the solution FBA was Re: 
FW: Looking for Disk Calc

http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005m.html#40 capacity of largest drive
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2005u.html#21 3390-81

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Re: FDR Compaktor - missing/reappearing data sets

2006-03-23 Thread Ed Finnell
 
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would be  giving the folks at IDP call on this.





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Re: WLM Question

2006-03-23 Thread Terry Linsley
Thanks Todd, will do.


On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 13:07:55 -0600, Todd Burch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Terry, I might be able to help with TMON, if it's TMON for DB2 you are
referring to.

Contact me off list and we can discuss what you are wanting to know.
Perhaps there is a facility through TMON for DB2's log files and our Report
Writer that would provide the information you want.

Todd   (  todd dot burch at asg dot com )


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 Greetings,

 We have recently suffered some pain due to logic error in our subsytem DDF
 classification rules.  I have made corrections to those rules and
performance
 has improved.  But I would like to see concrete proof that all DDF threads
are
 being classified to the service classes I expect.

 Is there an RMF/SMF report which whould show, for a specific time span,
every
 DDF thread that executed and to which service class it was classified?
 Barring that, is there any kind of report that would even get me close?
 We have TMON, but I have not found anything there at that level of detail.
 I have been looking through WLM and RMF manuals, but found nothing at that
 level of detail there either.  Does anyone else do that level of reporting
 for troubleshooting.

 Environment: OS/390 2.10, DB2 v7

 TIA


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CBDQDISP Inactive

2006-03-23 Thread Giovanni Cerquone
Dear folks;

I'm using HCM via TCP/IP and I have no problems when the connection is
successful but, if there is a security error accessing the CBDQDISP (by
instance, the OMVS segment was not assigned in RACF to the user trying to
connect to HCM), the user get a invalid logon. No problem here. Point is
that anytime this happens, the CBDQDISP address space goes inactive (i.e.
like a STOP command was issued) and we have to go to the mainframe to
start the STC again.

Are you familiar with this behavior?. How can I fix this beyond the fact
that I need to fix the security definition?.

TIA,

Giovanni

PS. Still running z/OS 1.4.

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Listserv question.

2006-03-23 Thread Howard Rifkind
Off topic I know, but does anyone know of a listserve dedicated to Windows 2003 
Server ?
   
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Re: 3590 ATL taking offline issue

2006-03-23 Thread Neil Duffee
On 2006-03-22 17:55, concerning 3590 ATL taking offline issue, Desi 
de la Garza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 When issuing the below command: V SMS,LIB(BCISATL),OFFLINE 
 We get this error; IGD053I REQUEST DENIED [snip] 

 Operations is trying to take the ATL offline for PM. I have never seen
 this error before. When checking 10 Library Management under ISMF,all
 checks ok. 

One of the explanations of IGD053I from LookAt says:
- the specified system or system group name is not defined to the 
storage management subsystem (SMS)

Have you checked the results from DISPLAY SMS,LIB(BCISATL) to verify 
the library is defined to the system PROD? 

The other explanation (that I don't comprehend - MonoPlex here) is:
- The name is a system name, and the system is defined in the 
configuration by system group name.

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Re: Listserv question.

2006-03-23 Thread Chase, John
http://www.lsoft.com/lists/list_q.html with windows 2003 server
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How to marry subsystem and dynamic allocation

2006-03-23 Thread Gil, Victor x28091
Good afternoon, IBM-MAIN

We'd like to be able to prevent certain confidential fields in production
files from being revealed to unauthorized users while still allowing
access to the rest of the record. From the users prospective these files are
read-only and are accessed through TSO, batch or CICS for testing or
comparison purposes.

The total volume of such files is huge and changes daily, so cloning them
and altering the sensitive fields is not an option. The only other option we
can think of is to develop an in-house method of intercepting and altering
records while they are being read, transparently to the application.

Here's what we've researched so far: 

- In CICS this should be easily achievable through the file control exit.
The exit would look up the dataset in a table and if found, apply a
correspondent rule.
- In batch we would implement a subsystem that would intercept each
[sequential] I/O and alter the record using the very same rules.

What do we do in TSO? Generally, how do we intercept records of a
dynamically allocated file?

There is a system-wide dynalloc input validation exit, IEFDB401, and it
might be able to add SUBSYS=... to the DYNALLOC requests, but this would
severe overtax all other dynamic allocations in the shop.

Appreciate all and any ideas, as crazy as they might sound
-Victor- 

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Re: C on z/OS questions

2006-03-23 Thread Barry Schwarz
The bracket problem is due to the ASCII/EBCDIC translation table used during 
the conversion, probably by ftp.  If you can find (or create) a good table, you 
could retransmit the source properly.
   
  To call a C module from an assembler routine, you have to establish the 
proper environment.  The Programming Guide manual has a whole section on 
inter-language calls.  I don'tknow if COBOL already sets up a suitable 
environment.  If not, you could create a short assembler routine that could be 
called from either to perform the setup.
   
  There is no need for main in a particular source module.  I've compile many 
source files that don't contain main.  (If you are building a C program, then 
there must be a function called main in exactly one source module that will 
eventually be linked into the program.)  What compiler message are you getting 
that makes you think you need main?
   
  I don't use DLLs but I thought I saw traffic here previously that Binder can 
build them.

john stephens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hey all,

I have recently inhereted an application that was written in C on a Win32 / 
AIX platform that needs to be moved up to the mainframe (z/OS V1R4.0).

I have never had to use the C compiler on the MF and to say I am confused 
would be an understatment. I know I am missing some connecting dots.

In order to compile the routine we have had to replace all our square brackets 
with trigraphs and digraphs. I know there has to be a compile option that 
pretty much emululates a win32 or AIX environment as far as acceptable chars.

Also, this routine is going to be used as a called subroutine by both 
Assembler and COBOL. In the Win32 envirionnment, I don't need a 'main' 
section and I can compile it into a .dll thereby making it unique and 
callable. However, on the MF I can't get past the compile without a 'main'.

And linking is another problem... sigh...


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Re: How to marry subsystem and dynamic allocation

2006-03-23 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi Victor,

This is probably the answer you have considered and rejected.

If you require field level security for this production data you need to
get that data moved out of sequential or VSAM files and into a DBMS like
DB2.  DB2 provides the granular security and encryption you require.
The time to develop and support the subsystem you are proposing even if
it is technically possible is going to be cost prohibitive to any
commercial concern.  Migration of the data to a DBMS will have benefits
well beyond providing the multilevel security access you require.

One useful reference:

Multilevel Security and DB2 Row-Level Security Revealed

http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246480.html



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Behalf Of Gil, Victor x28091
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 3:14 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: How to marry subsystem and dynamic allocation

Good afternoon, IBM-MAIN

We'd like to be able to prevent certain confidential fields in
production files from being revealed to unauthorized users while still
allowing access to the rest of the record. From the users prospective
these files are read-only and are accessed through TSO, batch or CICS
for testing or comparison purposes.

The total volume of such files is huge and changes daily, so cloning
them and altering the sensitive fields is not an option. The only other
option we can think of is to develop an in-house method of intercepting
and altering records while they are being read, transparently to the
application.

Here's what we've researched so far: 

- In CICS this should be easily achievable through the file control
exit.
The exit would look up the dataset in a table and if found, apply a
correspondent rule.
- In batch we would implement a subsystem that would intercept each
[sequential] I/O and alter the record using the very same rules.

What do we do in TSO? Generally, how do we intercept records of a
dynamically allocated file?

There is a system-wide dynalloc input validation exit, IEFDB401, and it
might be able to add SUBSYS=... to the DYNALLOC requests, but this
would severe overtax all other dynamic allocations in the shop.

Appreciate all and any ideas, as crazy as they might sound
-Victor- 

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Re: How to marry subsystem and dynamic allocation

2006-03-23 Thread McKown, John
Well, iffin' it 'twere me. I'd likely tell the TSO user: You must
allocate the dataset thusly: and give them the correct ALLOCATE with
the SUBSYS parameter. I would then have RACF set up to disallow them any
access to the dataset directly. I.e. put the burden on THEM.

For ISPF access, my assumption is that they only have BROWSE ability,
not EDIT. I would set up an alternate option 1 with something like:

B - Browse a secured dataset.

This would duplicate the function of browse, using the BRIF interface.
Have this get its records via a DD name which is allocated with the
SUBSYS parameter needed.

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Re: MSg IEC614I and the virtual ENTER Key.

2006-03-23 Thread Knutson, Sam
You can also see for some tidbits and sample code SHARE presentation 

Bit Bucket X'15'

http://www.share.org/client_files/proceedings/LongBeach_Feb2001/DATA/S28
17.PDF

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Re: Listserv question.

2006-03-23 Thread John Wynton
Howard:

You could also try the following newsgroup family via a news reader
service (there is no 2003 group as such, but there are several to
choose from):

microsoft.public.windows.server.dfs_frs
microsoft.public.windows.server.dns
microsoft.public.windows.server.general
microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
microsoft.public.windows.server.scripting
microsoft.public.windows.server.setup

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Putty connection to mainframe

2006-03-23 Thread Sabo, Frank
Hello everyone.

I have been requested by my management to use PUTTY as a 3270 emulator
on the mainframe instead of rumba as a remote connection over the web
access.

Does anyone out there using PUTTY to access the mainframe, if so, how? 
I did use putty to access the test LINUX LPAR that I have up and
running. So far I have only been able to connect to TSO and only as a
single command line, not any of the ISPF panels.  I would appreciate any
help I can get. 

Thanks 

Frank W Sabo Jr
Phone: 412 967-3764
Fax:412 967-6120
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Re: Putty connection to mainframe

2006-03-23 Thread McKown, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sabo, Frank
 Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 2:58 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Putty connection to mainframe
 
 
 Hello everyone.
 
 I have been requested by my management to use PUTTY as a 3270 emulator
 on the mainframe instead of rumba as a remote connection over the web
 access.
 
 Does anyone out there using PUTTY to access the mainframe, if 
 so, how? 
 I did use putty to access the test LINUX LPAR that I have up and
 running. So far I have only been able to connect to TSO and only as a
 single command line, not any of the ISPF panels.  I would 
 appreciate any
 help I can get. 
 
 Thanks 
 
 Frank W Sabo Jr

NO CAN DO. PuTTy does not emulate a 3270. No way. No how. Forget about
it!

There are many inexpensive 3270 emulators for Winbloze out there. If
your company is too cheap to get one, pay the cost (less than $50!)
yourself and save the pain.

Something perverted that you can try is to use PuTTY to get to your
Linux server. Now, from there you can use c3270 (if you have it - it's
free) to connect to your z/OS system. This is a rather clunky 3270
emulator. You will soon become withdrawn and introspective, a mere
shadow of your former self.

Or install Cygwin (http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin/). While installing
it, install the X server and x3270 as well. Now use x3270. It works. It
is OK once you have a good keyboard map. Creating a good keyboard map is
a royal pain in the patootie! I have a minimal one that is fairly good
and will share it if you want it.

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Re: Putty connection to mainframe

2006-03-23 Thread Mike Bell
Putty is a telnet replacement not capable of doing 3270.

The only TSO that would work would be the old command line  stuff -  no ISPF





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Re: How to marry subsystem and dynamic allocation

2006-03-23 Thread David Andrews
On Thu, 2006-03-23 at 15:13 -0500, Gil, Victor x28091 wrote:
 We'd like to be able to prevent certain confidential fields in production
 files from being revealed to unauthorized users while still allowing
 access to the rest of the record.

Oooh, nasty.

You might front-end OPEN, plugging your own GET routine address(es) into
the DCB before returning to the user.  In turn your GET routine would
drive IBM's, then nullify the fields in question.  It wouldn't keep out
the determined snooper, but would be okay for casual users.

You might simply encrypt the fields you don't want people to see.  We do
this in our shop (using a laughable homegrown encryption routine -- it
wouldn't thwart a dedicated crook, but it keeps honest people honest).

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Re: Putty connection to mainframe

2006-03-23 Thread Jon Brock
Putty won't do the trick.  

Why do they want you to use it?  Surely not to avoid the cost -- tell them to 
shell out a few bucks for Vista, or pay for it yourself if you have to.



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Re: Putty connection to mainframe

2006-03-23 Thread Thomas Kern
Here is an entry from the VMESA-L/IBMVM list that will get you a nice x3270
emulator for Windows for FREE.

/Tom Kern

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 12:51:16 -0500, Mike Caughran
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I compiled up the most recent version of c3270 and x3270 and
made windows installers for each which include all the
necessary cygwin stuff.   This version has support for tn3270ssl.

It worked for me but no warranties expressed or implied

They are at http://www.state.ak.us/tssfiles
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On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 15:58:25 -0500, Sabo, Frank [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hello everyone.

I have been requested by my management to use PUTTY as a 3270 emulator
on the mainframe instead of rumba as a remote connection over the web
access.

Does anyone out there using PUTTY to access the mainframe, if so, how?
I did use putty to access the test LINUX LPAR that I have up and
running. So far I have only been able to connect to TSO and only as a
single command line, not any of the ISPF panels.  I would appreciate any
help I can get.

Thanks

Frank W Sabo Jr
Phone: 412 967-3764
Fax:412 967-6120
Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: How to marry subsystem and dynamic allocation

2006-03-23 Thread Tom Williamson
Hello,

Our ACC product lets you test of change just about any DD statement
keywords for batch or dynamic allocation including SUBSYS.  Under rule
control you could add a SUBSUS= keyword to any dd statement.

www.dtssoftware.com



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Re: Putty connection to mainframe

2006-03-23 Thread Brian Peterson
Others have correctly observed that PUTTY does not emulate a 3270.

What is the real requirement?  Is it to encrypt all tn3270 traffic between
your workstation and your mainframe?  PUTTY can encrypt vanilla telnet to a
unix box - maybe the real requirement is to do SSL for your tn3270 traffic.

If you explain to the list what the real requirement is, the answers you
get back will probably be of much higher quality.

Brian

On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 15:58:25 -0500, Sabo, Frank [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

Hello everyone.

I have been requested by my management to use PUTTY as a 3270 emulator
on the mainframe instead of rumba as a remote connection over the web
access.

Does anyone out there using PUTTY to access the mainframe, if so, how?
I did use putty to access the test LINUX LPAR that I have up and
running. So far I have only been able to connect to TSO and only as a
single command line, not any of the ISPF panels.  I would appreciate any
help I can get.

Thanks

Frank W Sabo Jr

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Re: Putty connection to mainframe

2006-03-23 Thread Schramm, Rob
Unless you are planning to run x-windows, ssh or telnet to the unix side
of mvs... putty will be pretty useless.

If the need is for USS access, then putty is great to use.  I use it all
the time for access to USS via SSH.

-Rob.


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Re: WLM Question

2006-03-23 Thread Shane
On Thu, 2006-03-23 at 12:04 -0600, Terry Linsley wrote:

 Is there a straight forward method of determining if an enclave is
 dependant?  Would an example of one be when a DB2 utility spawns multiple
 threads to build an index during a table load or recovery?

RMFIII has an indicator - I think that's what twigged me to go find out
what the hell a dependent enclave was.
PP isn't any help.

I'd be *REAL* surprised if any have surfaced in your environment unless
it was the home-grown stuff - ours was, although not Java.

We had a small local batch job that did some DB2 log analysis - this is
where the dep enclave came from. Ops noticed it (apparently) wasn't
doing anything, and reset the job.
Still wasn't doing anything, but the shop stopped - no prod batch was
going anywhere. Eventually I got a call. The dependant enclave came
along for the ride, and was consuming a full engine - out of 3.
At 2.10, this was *very* hard to track down.
Ops got kicked (again) for using reset.

Even these episodes aren't enough to cause a change of mind about
mandatory logon on the consoles.

Shane ...

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Re: How to marry subsystem and dynamic allocation

2006-03-23 Thread Edward E. Jaffe

McKown, John wrote:

Well, iffin' it 'twere me. I'd likely tell the TSO user: You must
allocate the dataset thusly: and give them the correct ALLOCATE with
the SUBSYS parameter. I would then have RACF set up to disallow them any
access to the dataset directly. I.e. put the burden on THEM.
  


In which release did TSO/E begin supporting the SUBSYS parameter on the 
ALLOCATE command?


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Re: I/O Retries

2006-03-23 Thread Skip Robinson
We finally took some steps to attack this problem on the processor that 
showed the highest I/O retry count. 

- During the week, the CE removed all unused ESCON cards on one processor. 
(Nondisruptive)
- On the monthly IPL weekend, we brought down all LPARs on the processor.
- We did two PORs: first with the previous IOCDS, then with the current 
IOCDS.

The double POR was advised by the CE in order to force redistribution of 
the SAPs across remaining chpids. Otherwise a minimal POR with the same 
IOCDS would not necessarily reassign SAPs. 

The result is heartening but a trifle puzzling. RMF still reports 
unbalanced SAP usage, with one being used conspicuously less than the 
others. But the real problem--excessive I/O retries--appears to be fixed. 
The count is not zero but far lower than it was before the exercise. 

.
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IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 03/01/2006 
09:38:28 AM:

 We're getting reports from RMF of excessively high I/O retries on some 
 systems. In one case, we've seen the number of retries go higher than 
the 
 actual number of I/Os!
 
 Assuming that the numbers are being reported correctly, does anyone have 
a 
 notion of what might cause this anomaly? Some facts:
 
 - Reports do not detail the I/Os being retried by channel or device; 
just 
 a total number
 - No channel looks excessively busy according to RMF
 - We see this on more than one CEC (all z900)
 - SAP/IOP processors are 'unbalanced'
 
 This last point might be an issue. We have a fairly large number of now 
 unused ESCON channels whose function has moved over to FICON. It appears 

 that the three SAPs divide up all channels among themselves, but one of 
 them--which happens to have the most idle channels--is less than half as 

 busy as the other two. Maybe we need to physically remove the unused 
 channels in order to redistribute the SAPs more evenly across the active 

 channels.


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Re: I/O Retries

2006-03-23 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 3/23/2006 4:58:34 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

unbalanced SAP usage, with one being used conspicuously less than the  
others. But the real problem--excessive I/O retries--appears to be fixed.  
The count is not zero but far lower than it was before the exercise.  




Always good to see progress. Still sounds like  bug.

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WLM and zIIPs

2006-03-23 Thread Shane
Anybody been thinking about this - Terrys post got me musing ???.

It seems only some of eligible DRDA work (i.e. an IBM determined
percentage less than 100) will be dispatched on zIIP(s). How does this
affect WLM classifications already in effect ???. Unfettered usage of a
full engine could severely skew goal achievement - which are calculated
sysplex wide.
Pretty hard to manage if you can't identify or control the subset of the
work that is eligible for zIIP dispatch.

Sorry - it's Friday here already.

Shane ...

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Re: How to marry subsystem and dynamic allocation

2006-03-23 Thread Hal Merritt
About the only concept of a 'field' in dataset/files is a descriptor
word (block/record length) and VSAM keys.

What you call a 'field' is not meaningful to anything but *very*
specialized software. You would have to thread *all* possible accesses
through that software. And there are a *lot* of ways to access data. 

Not easy even for DBMS software and your security package.

But that's about the only way. 

 

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Good afternoon, IBM-MAIN

We'd like to be able to prevent certain confidential fields in
production
files from being revealed to unauthorized users while still allowing
access to the rest of the record. From the users prospective these files
are
read-only and are accessed through TSO, batch or CICS for testing or
comparison purposes.

 

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Re: 3380-3390 Conversion - DISAPPOINTMENT

2006-03-23 Thread willie bunter
Hi,
   
  I was the originator of the post and I asked for help.  Somewhere down the 
line the thread got hi-jacked and the discussion became one about contractors 
and the antagonism towards them.  I am very disappointed at the lack of 
professionalism.  
   
  Again, if someone out there has any tips or information regarding 3380-3390 
conversion please, please answer back.
   
  I apologise for my diatribe but I am desperate for help and information.


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Re: 3380-3390 Conversion - DISAPPOINTMENT

2006-03-23 Thread Mike Bell
VSAM is VSAM - so DB2 and IMS that is on VSAM can be moved with DF/DSS or
any other tool. someone already said that.
IMS that is on OSAM is not device dependent but the blksize was probably
chosen for 3380 optimum - The DBA's will have to fix it later. If you mark
the old volumes as disabled for new allocations, HSM migrate and recall will
move to the new packs. I have done it both ways.  I would recomend taking
your biggest files and moveing them with DF/DSS.  SMS will scatter the new
allocations accross all the packs so it doesn't really matter how you do
it.
DB2 image copies, archive logs, IMS image copies and logs are all QSAM and
idenpendent of device. blksizes may not be optimum but I doubt it is worth
changing.

The single biggest issue I remember was blksize on loadlibs. After much
discussion, we moved them manually with copymod to set new blksizes.

Mike


On 3/23/06, willie bunter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

   I was the originator of the post and I asked for help.  Somewhere down
 the line the thread got hi-jacked and the discussion became one about
 contractors and the antagonism towards them.  I am very disappointed at the
 lack of professionalism.

   Again, if someone out there has any tips or information regarding
 3380-3390 conversion please, please answer back.

   I apologise for my diatribe but I am desperate for help and information.


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Re: 3380-3390 Conversion - DISAPPOINTMENT

2006-03-23 Thread willie bunter
Thanks Mike for the info.  We have FDR.  I presume it should work just the same.
   
  Thanks for answering my SOS.

Mike Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  VSAM is VSAM - so DB2 and IMS that is on VSAM can be moved with DF/DSS or
any other tool. someone already said that.
IMS that is on OSAM is not device dependent but the blksize was probably
chosen for 3380 optimum - The DBA's will have to fix it later. If you mark
the old volumes as disabled for new allocations, HSM migrate and recall will
move to the new packs. I have done it both ways. I would recomend taking
your biggest files and moveing them with DF/DSS. SMS will scatter the new
allocations accross all the packs so it doesn't really matter how you do
it.
DB2 image copies, archive logs, IMS image copies and logs are all QSAM and
idenpendent of device. blksizes may not be optimum but I doubt it is worth
changing.

The single biggest issue I remember was blksize on loadlibs. After much
discussion, we moved them manually with copymod to set new blksizes.

Mike


On 3/23/06, willie bunter wrote:

 Hi,

 I was the originator of the post and I asked for help. Somewhere down
 the line the thread got hi-jacked and the discussion became one about
 contractors and the antagonism towards them. I am very disappointed at the
 lack of professionalism.

 Again, if someone out there has any tips or information regarding
 3380-3390 conversion please, please answer back.

 I apologise for my diatribe but I am desperate for help and information.


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Re: FDR Compaktor - missing/reappearing data sets

2006-03-23 Thread Ed Gould

On Mar 23, 2006, at 1:24 PM, Ed Finnell wrote:



In a message dated 3/23/2006 12:49:47 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

would be  giving the folks at IDP call on this.







They give prompt replies by eMail at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) .
Other than uCode levels I was just wondering if they're defined as
SHARED=Y in IODF?

-


Ed,

I have seen this a few times myself (and the devices were marked  
shared). Its been ages but at least one of the times I think I got a  
213 (don't remember the RC) as well. I just figured that FDR was  
doings its thing with the vtoc. I thought about it and came to the  
conclusion as it WAD.


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Re: 3380-3390 Conversion - DISAPPOINTMENT

2006-03-23 Thread Stephen Mednick
Willie,

As you've said that you have FDR, take a look at Section 80.12 titled Data
Movement Between Different Device Devices.


Stephen Mednick
Computer Supervisory Services
Sydney, Australia

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of willie bunter
 Sent: Friday, 24 March 2006 12:35 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: 3380-3390 Conversion - DISAPPOINTMENT
 
 Thanks Mike for the info.  We have FDR.  I presume it should 
 work just the same.

   Thanks for answering my SOS.
 
 Mike Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   VSAM is VSAM - so DB2 and IMS that is on VSAM can be moved 
 with DF/DSS or any other tool. someone already said that.
 IMS that is on OSAM is not device dependent but the blksize 
 was probably chosen for 3380 optimum - The DBA's will have to 
 fix it later. If you mark the old volumes as disabled for new 
 allocations, HSM migrate and recall will move to the new 
 packs. I have done it both ways. I would recomend taking your 
 biggest files and moveing them with DF/DSS. SMS will scatter 
 the new allocations accross all the packs so it doesn't 
 really matter how you do it.
 DB2 image copies, archive logs, IMS image copies and logs are 
 all QSAM and idenpendent of device. blksizes may not be 
 optimum but I doubt it is worth changing.
 
 The single biggest issue I remember was blksize on loadlibs. 
 After much discussion, we moved them manually with copymod to 
 set new blksizes.
 
 Mike
 
 

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Re: Problem copying VM volumes under z/OS

2006-03-23 Thread Bruce Black

A VM volume can be formatted two ways:

* if initialized using the CPFMTXA (which actually invokes ICKDSF INIT 
CPFORMAT) it contains a dummy MVS VTOC on cylinder 0, track 0 starting 
on record 5.  This is not a natural location for a VTOC, but it does 
allow the volume to be mounted on MVS.   This VTOC never has datasets in 
it and shows no free space on the volume.  Products like FDR and 
DFSMSdss recognize this dummy VTOC and know that it is VM-formatted


* but you can also initialize the volume with standard ICKDSF INIT, 
which puts a real VTOC on the volume.  Since by default it puts a small 
VTOC on cyl 0, track 1, and VM mini-disks are generally allocated 
starting on cylinder 1, this will work for VM, but MVS will see it is an 
empty volume.


So you must have case 2.  The only way to copy these under MVS is to use 
the COPY TRACKS function of DFSMSdss, specifying the whole size of the 
volume.


It is possible to reformat the VTOC without disturbing the data, but I 
don't know VM well enough to tell you how


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Re: Data conversion from 3380 to 3390 - H E L P

2006-03-23 Thread Bruce Black
If you have DFDSS there is an option to reblock the datasets that are 
copied and its reasonably fast. I could be wrong in this but the FDR 
people didn't have the option.
Ed, luckily you are wrong.  Our dataset restore has the option to 
reblock PS and PO dataset.  Other dataset types like DA often have 
dependancies that prevent reblocking


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Re: Data conversion from 3380 to 3390 - H E L P

2006-03-23 Thread Bruce Black


Clearly the biggest issue is the geometry change from 47K to 56K; so you
can’t use any “physical” type utilities (E.g. Full Dump  Restore) to
perform the data move unless you configure the 3390 devices in 3380
emulation mode.  
Ya know, that is not completely true. As long as the output track will 
hold all the records on the input track, most access methods will 
support a track-by-track copy. VSAM usually will not, but does in some 
circumstances.


PO datasets are an issue because one of the quirky differences between 
3380 and 3390 is that the 3380 holds 1 more PDS directory block on a 
track than the 3390. So if the 3380 PDS has more than 1 track of 
directory (47 blocks I believe), then the track copy will fail


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Re: 3380-3390 Conversion - DISAPPOINTMENT

2006-03-23 Thread Stephen Mednick
Whoops, that should have been:

Data Movement Between Different DASD Devices

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Fax: +61 (2) 9665 7382



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 Willie,
 
 As you've said that you have FDR, take a look at Section 
 80.12 titled Data Movement Between Different Device Devices.
 
 
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Re: FDR Compaktor - missing/reappearing data sets

2006-03-23 Thread Bruce Black


we have run into an issue where compaktor is running on sys1 and df/dss is
running data set backup's on sys2. what appears to happen is that when
compaktor is working a volume that dss is backing up from, data sets
go 'missing' unitl compaktor is done. the dss backup spits out an ADR321E
data set not on volume but finds the data set when the backup job is
resubmitted and compaktor has released the volume. The dss parms specifiy
tol(enqF). We use GRS-star, do not globally convert all reserves, do have
this coded RNLDEF RNL (CON) TYPE (GENERIC) QNAME (SYSVTOC)
I suspect this is just a timing matter and the defrags shouldn't be running
in the storage group where batch production is running, but thought I would
ask if I'm may be missing anything in the RNL's or with Compaktor.

Jerry, as others said, please call us with question, any time.

What is happening: during the COMPAKTion, CPK protects the datasets 
selected for movement by changing the last character in the dataset name 
to lower case.  We also exclusively ENQ on SYSDSN for each dataset, and 
we hold a SYSVTOC ENQ across the whole process, but those two ENQs can 
be overridden.  The dsname change is an extra protection


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Re: Data conversion from 3380 to 3390 - H E L P

2006-03-23 Thread Ed Gould

On Mar 23, 2006, at 8:47 PM, Bruce Black wrote:

If you have DFDSS there is an option to reblock the datasets that  
are copied and its reasonably fast. I could be wrong in this but  
the FDR people didn't have the option.
Ed, luckily you are wrong.  Our dataset restore has the option to  
reblock PS and PO dataset.  Other dataset types like DA often have  
dependancies that prevent reblocking


Bruce,

Thanks. I Never saw this option going through the doc. I am happy  
to hear that it exists.


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Re: Retry: Problem on NetView V2R2M1

2006-03-23 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
Not sure what happend to your post but there are a bunch of 3D in the 
text and I don't know what they are supposed to be.


It seems that your user exit DVGPCBAS may have had a problem.

It also seems that it is trying to say that the LU on the remote system 
was unusable.


Marco Gianfranco Indaco wrote:

Thank, Mr Jim and John.
To help you I will post the feedback copied from the server regarding the
RSN 592.
I don't know how reproduce this kind of error that is not common so I will
be grateful
for any advice about all.
(The text about the error begin with a 000 and end with 999 so if for any
reason the text
will be truncated I hope that you will ask me to resend it all)
I hope in this.
000
DVG066I  PROCESSING STARTED FOR REQUEST NUMBER =3D 319 ; REQUEST NAME =3D

DVG075I  SESSION NOT STARTED WITH yyy; LOGICAL UNIT IS
UNUSABLE
DVG065I  ACF/VTAM APPCCMD MACRO ERROR; OPERAND CODE =3D CNOS ; RETURN CODE =
IN
RPL =3D 00; FEEDBACK FIELD
DVG065I  IN RPL =3D 0B; SENSE CODE IN RPL6 =3D 8000; APPC PRIMARY RETUR=
N
CODE =3D 0008; APPC SECONDARY RETURN CODE =3D 
DVG660I  JOB FINEMALE(JOB49920) SUBMITTED; MEMBER NAME =3D member; DATA SET
NAME =3D Library
DVG111I  MESSAGE FROM USER-EXIT ROUTINE DVGPCBAS; MESSAGE =3D DVGPCNV invok=
ed
on local system, lu unusable: try again
DVG250I  REQUEST AVAILABLE FOR AUTOMATIC TRANSFER
RESTART
DVG020I


DVG003I  FILE TRANSFER ENDED FOR REQUEST NUMBER 319 ON 06/02/23 AT 23:00:06=
;
RC =3D 16 ; RSN =3D 592
DVG020I

999

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Re: z900 Capacity Models?

2006-03-23 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.

Chase, John wrote:

At http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/z900/glance.html I
see this:

Hardware models 
General purpose models 101-109, 110-116, 210-216 
Capacity models 1C1-1C9, 2C1-2C9 	


However, I don't see a definition of Capacity models; nor do I see
anything that would intuitively distinguish between a general purpose
model and a capacity model, other than the C in the model number.

Can somebody give me a clue what capacity model means?

TIA,

-jc-



IIRC the Capacity models mean that they they are able to do capacity on 
demand (COD) upgrades.  That is add a CPU on the fly without any POR or 
IPL.  Just call IBM, give them your credit card number, some guy sitting 
someplace dials into the box enables one or more CP's, and you now have 
more capacity.


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Re: How to marry subsystem and dynamic allocation

2006-03-23 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 15:13:57 -0500, Gil, Victor x28091 wrote:

Good afternoon, IBM-MAIN

We'd like to be able to prevent certain confidential fields in production
files from being revealed to unauthorized users while still allowing
access to the rest of the record. From the users prospective these files
are read-only and are accessed through TSO, batch or CICS for testing or
comparison purposes.

The total volume of such files is huge and changes daily, so cloning them
and altering the sensitive fields is not an option. The only other option
we can think of is to develop an in-house method of intercepting and
altering records while they are being read, transparently to the
application.

Here's what we've researched so far:

- In CICS this should be easily achievable through the file control exit.
The exit would look up the dataset in a table and if found, apply a
correspondent rule.
- In batch we would implement a subsystem that would intercept each
[sequential] I/O and alter the record using the very same rules.

What do we do in TSO? Generally, how do we intercept records of a
dynamically allocated file?

There is a system-wide dynalloc input validation exit, IEFDB401, and it
might be able to add SUBSYS=... to the DYNALLOC requests, but this would
severe overtax all other dynamic allocations in the shop.

Appreciate all and any ideas, as crazy as they might sound
-Victor-


Victor,

I wonder just how huge the total volume of files really is.  (Are we
talking trillions of bytes?  Tens-of-thousands of files accessed daily?)

Why not consider splitting these files into a confidential and non-
confidential file pair?  The advantage of splitting the files into a
confidential field file and a non-confidential field file is obvious:
security should be straightforward.

You could stitch the common I/O routine into the GET routine address via a
subsystem (as you've suggested) or via an OPEN front-end (as, I believe,
John suggested), or via a BatchPipes stage (e.g., JOIN).

The BP subsystem approach could be used to stitch the files together on
reads and split them apart on writes.  BP with appropriate fittings should
be able to accomplish both of those things with a comparitively minimal
amount of programming on your part.  The BP pipelines stages would not
necessarily require a pipe writer + reader pair of jobs; you would use the
pipe fitting SUBSYS JCL to insert the stages onto the DD statement(s) and
avoid writing nearly all of that nasty authorized code to filter your
confidential (and no-doubt customer critical) files.

The issue I'm largely ignoring is getting the JCL inserted... but that
might be fairly simple with some unique pipe stages to perform dynamic
allocation (although you might have problems doing DYNALLOC at some points
in the processes).  (I don't recall ever trying to do that w/ BP.)  It
might require JCL changes but mass JCL changes aren't much of a challenge.
(Besides, if your users need access to the secret stuff they'll go along
with the change.)

But these confidential fields -- won't programs that don't get to see
them miss them in the records at all?  You have procedural languages
processing those files, right?  Don't you think the COBOL (et al) routines
will be even a little upset that they are not seeing what they expect where
they expect it?

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Re: Putty connection to mainframe

2006-03-23 Thread Thomas Kern
His real requirement is to placate the management/network/security folks, but
they just don't know how to phase their demand in IBM mainframese. They
probably really want to stop cleartext userid/password transmission where all
the spies can see them. They network and security folks know that ssh is the
protocol for encrypted terminal sessions for unix (the only real opsys in their
world) and know that putty is a very good ssh program on the Windows desktops
that management makes them use. Therefore when they want the mainframers to
stop sending userid/password in cleartext, they tell you to use putty. 

They are right. Just nod your head, say sure and go turn on SSL protected
TN3270 services on the TELNETS port 992. That way the network people can check
their list of well-known ports and see that you really are doing what they
meant to say. The x3270 and c3270 programs as packaged by Mike Caughran from
State of Alaska supports SSL encryption. To turn this on, enter the connection
address as L:ipaddr/name:port, such as L:vm1.hqadmin.doe.gov:992 and you will
have a nice cheap secure tn3270 emulator and your management/network/security
people will be satisfied.

/Tom Kern

--- Brian Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Others have correctly observed that PUTTY does not emulate a 3270.
 
 What is the real requirement?  Is it to encrypt all tn3270 traffic between
 your workstation and your mainframe?  PUTTY can encrypt vanilla telnet to a
 unix box - maybe the real requirement is to do SSL for your tn3270 traffic.
 
 If you explain to the list what the real requirement is, the answers you
 get back will probably be of much higher quality.
 
 Brian
 
 On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 15:58:25 -0500, Sabo, Frank [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 Hello everyone.
 
 I have been requested by my management to use PUTTY as a 3270 emulator
 on the mainframe instead of rumba as a remote connection over the web
 access.
 
 Does anyone out there using PUTTY to access the mainframe, if so, how?
 I did use putty to access the test LINUX LPAR that I have up and
 running. So far I have only been able to connect to TSO and only as a
 single command line, not any of the ISPF panels.  I would appreciate any
 help I can get.


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Friday Topic...

2006-03-23 Thread Gary Green
I know, I know, this has nothing to do with mainframes, but being Friday and
all...  Besides, I was hoping I could get this past the censors...

Most of us in this newsgroup are from a time that we will appreciate the
music, and the talent exhibited reminds me of what we do on a daily basis
in an attempt to keep our jobs, keep the machines humming and our bosses
(all of them) happy.

This is very G rated and be sure, durned sure, you can hear the music as
the video plays.  After the intro hit the Watch This Video Again to see
the entire thing.

I hope you enjoy it.  If you have already watched it, forget I ever
mentioned it.

http://marketplace.espeakers.com/movie.php?sid=5290aid=10558

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Re: Friday Topic...

2006-03-23 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I am getting sick of Friday Topics.
Why do we have to go to off-topic just because it's Friday?
First, these topics rarely stay on just Friday.
Second, there is already a low signal-to-noise ratio on this list.
I know I have not been perfect in the past, but I have stayed on topic for the 
last few months.
Why can't everybody else?

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Re: Compare z900, z890/z990, z9

2006-03-23 Thread Timothy Sipples
Looking for a comparison between all the z/Boxen with regard to:
1.  Sub-capacity licensing availability / support,

Supported on all the systems you named (as long as you meet the other 
requirements). It's worth noting that z800 and z890 have fractional engine 
configurations available to fine tune capacity a little more precisely 
than their bigger cousins.

2.  Turbo vs non-Turbo:  What it means, where/when it applies, etc.

Turbo just means a faster engine, and I think it only applies to the 
z900 out of the models you listed. The z900 got a mid-life engine boost 
before the z990 came out. The turbo models start with a 2 in the three 
digit code. For example, a 2064-105 is a non-turbo model (with 5 main 
processors). A 2064-211 is a turbo model (with 11 main processors). Here's 
how the model numbers look:

z900: 2064-1xx
z900 Turbo: 2064-2xx
z800: 2066-xxx
z990: 2084-xxx
z890: 2086-xxx
z9-109: 2094-xxx

The xxx reflects the capacity for each system (for main processors).

3.  Capacity models:  meaning, applicability.

Hmmm... Not sure (other than above). Any more context where you heard/saw 
the term?

More information...

4. MSUs (main processor capacity rating) decline 10% for the same 
transactional capacity with each new generation system. For example, a 
hypothetical z900 rated at 100 MSUs of capacity would have the same 
performance as a z990 rated at 90 MSUs. (In practice the numbers don't 
line up this neatly due lumpy capacity increments and variations in real 
workload, but the underlying math is correct.) Most z/OS software is 
charged according to the MSU rating. This 10% curve is called the 
technology dividend. Here's how the mainframe generations look (using 
100 as a hypothetical base):

z900/z900 Turbo/z800: 100
z990/z890: 90
z9-109: 81

Said another way, the newer your mainframe the more processing you can do 
for the same software budget. (Or the same processing you can do for a 
smaller software budget.)

5. There are more (and faster) specialty engines as the systems get newer. 
Here's what's available by model grouping:

z900/z900 Turbo/z800: IFLs and ICFs
z990/z890: IFLs, ICFs, and zAAPs
z9-109: IFLs, ICFs, zAAPs, and zIIPs

Cryptographic processing also gets better and faster the newer the model.

The specialty engines can offload work from main engines, allowing either 
more main processor efficiencies (and lower costs) or the addition of more 
work to the mainframe (for the same costs), or some combination of both.

And these last few points are the important bits because they imply 
something very real about mainframe economics: add more work to your 
mainframe and your per-transaction processing costs go down (and often 
quite dramatically).  Take work off and your per-transaction processing 
costs go up.  It's like owning a truck: it costs very, very little to send 
the truck on another trip.  You still have to buy the truck, insure it, 
keep a back office to support it, etc.

Which leads me to some final words about the mainframe cost paradox.  How 
can you make mainframes cheaper?  Grow them.

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Consulting Enterprise Software Architect, z9/zSeries
IBM Japan, Ltd.
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Re: WLM Question

2006-03-23 Thread Timothy Sipples
Terry Linsley writes:
Our DDF traffic is 1/3 MS Access,
1/3 DB2 connect, and 1/3 locally developed java apps.  Of the three, MS
Access causes the most pain hands down.

Off on a slight tangent here, there are some things you can do to take the 
DDF temperature down. I'll list these in order of timeliness to your 
current situation -- first what's possible with OS/390 V2R10, then moving 
beyond. (As it happens the OS/390 options are reusable and apply to z/OS, 
so there's no danger of throwaway effort.)

OS/390 Possibilities:

1. Put DB2 Connect on Linux on the mainframe. Having a local connection 
between DB2 Connect and DB2 (even if it isn't a Hipersocket) should shave 
some milliseconds out of each connection, and that'll help DB2 work more 
efficiently. Try sending your Microsoft Access and Java clients in via 
this DB2 Connect on mainframe Linux and see how that works, too.

2. Move some/all of your Java applications (particularly the data 
intensive ones) up to mainframe Linux. Same principle as #1: proximity has 
workload benefits.

z/OS Possibilities:

3. Add a Hipersocket between DB2 Connect (mainframe Linux) and DB2. 
Requires z/OS 1.2 or higher and z900 or higher.

4. Evaluate DB2 V8 to see whether you have requests that could benefit 
from multi-row fetch/multi-row insert. Microsoft Access might very well be 
in that category. Requires z/OS 1.3 or higher and z900 or higher. (Combine 
with DB2 Connect for Linux on mainframe.)

5. Add a zAAP and move the Java applications into the same LPAR as DB2. 
(The most proximate solution.) Requires z990, z890, or System z9. Requires 
z/OS 1.6 or higher.

6. Add a zIIP for the remaining inbound traffic arriving from outside the 
LPAR. Requires z/OS 1.6 or higher, DB2 V8, and System z9. This option 
becomes available later in 2006.

Hope that helps!

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Consulting Enterprise Software Architect, z9/zSeries
IBM Japan, Ltd.
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