Re: installing serverpac for 1.13 using 1.11 system
Hi Tim, It is pretty easy in the ServerPac dialogs to change the name of the mount point to a unique name , such as /service13 . That prevents any confusion as to what gets mounted to what for what. /snip MOUNT FILESYSTEM('ZOS13.OMVS.VAR.ROOT') + /esnip This is your VAR root. There are several zfs files with the low level of ROOT. Your system root would be ssa.OMVS.ROOT or whatever name you used to conform to your shop dataset naming standards. It's good to keep your dialogs clean . If they acurately reflect your set up, they will be more useful as a merge set when you begin to build your next ServerPac install. HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: Tim Brown tbr...@cenhud.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 2:08:08 PM Subject: installing serverpac for 1.13 using 1.11 system During the serverpac for zos 1.13 I believe there is a step where you mount the new systems root system on the driving system at the /service point. Is the command for this MOUNT FILESYSTEM('ZOS13.OMVS.VAR.ROOT') + MOUNTPOINT('/service') + TYPE(ZFS) MODE(RDWR) I believe we had done this originally and an IPL of the driving system was performed since then.. We cant find this step documented and the subsequent ALTCAT job fails with. File system ZOS13.OMVS.ROOT not mounted BPXISETS not called to convert etc and var to symlinks Please ensure that ZOS13.OMVS.ROOT is mounted and submit the job again. Please confirm Thanks, Tim Brown Supervisor Computer Operations Central Hudson Gas Electric 284 South Ave Poughkeepsie, NY 12601 Email: mailto:tbr...@cenhud.com tbr...@cenhud.com mailto:tbr...@cenhud.com mailto:tbr...@cenhud.com Phone: 845-486-5643 Fax: 845-486-5921 Cell: 845-235-4255 This message contains confidential information and is only for the intended recipient. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this note and deleting all copies and attachments. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Printing DASD type
Hi Peter, There are a number of ways - a lot depends on what info you want. Assuming that you just want to filter a quick list, QuickRef has a very handy DASD screen for immediate - or almost immediate, depending on how big your farm is :) display that you can filter by many different criteria. You can sort the fields in whatever order you like and you can drill down to the VTOC list by putting the cursor on the volser and pressing enter. (No, I am not affiliated with ChicagoSoft, just a long time user.) You can also run batch reports, or you could set up an Omegamon RCOL type screen, etc. HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: mf db dbajava...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 10:14:25 PM Subject: Printing DASD type Hello All, We know pretty well that Mod - 3 , Mod - 9 . Mod - 27 has a Cylinder of 3K , 9K and 27k, but in a environment where we have mixture of all these type it becomes hard to know by each Volume serial. Are there any ways to scan only the Volumes corresponding to MOD 3 or MOD 9 ? Any suggestions or advises are much appreciated. Peter -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: How many cost a cpu second?
Hi Salva, The answer is, It depends! As has been said in other replies, the answer is, at the very least political. I used to work with a retired IBM capacity planner. There are two main purposes to a billing system. 1) recover your costs and 2) encourage sustainable computing behavior. 1) costs, all costs. This doesn't mean that you have to have a separate billable for every little thing that goes into cost. We have a CPU charge that incorporates support staff, equipment maintenance, operations staff, etc. We also charge for DASD excps. We used to charge for DASD residency 25+ years ago, but it caused undesirable user behavior so we stopped charging for DASD residency. There is still DASD cost of course, but it is included in the rest of the rates. It's also important to have rates that your customer can understand. We basically charge for CPU, DASD excps, tape, tape mounts, print records, and a few other things. When we used to have a lot of tape drives and operators to mount tape, we had a lot of user tapes to deal with. Now, almost all of our tape activity is virtual. Our billing charge for tape handling is much higher that the charge for FTP data pickup and delivery to the user's server. Print records sent to a viewer are less expensive than printed reports. Customers can also print all or part of their reports on their own printer, remotely. Remote print records are billed at a lower rate, but we still have to recover costs. Everybody has to recover costs somewhere, somehow. 2) encourage sustainable computing behavior. For example, if you charge for DASD residency, consider making the residency charge less for the cheaper disk, more expensive for the fastest, more expensive, etc. Another site announces when their oldest disk is coming to end of life - at that point the maint prices for it are generally going up - so they bill more for it and that helps motivate their customers to want to move to other disk. The price increases cover the extra cost and the natural desire of the customer is to avoid the extra cost and be willing to have their data moved. So if CPU is more expensive for batch work at peak times, customers will be encouraged to move what they can to other times - and that will help you keep your rolling average lower and save you money too. For other types of work, programmer testing, etc. the temptation is to run that workload at really low priority, but programmers are an expensive resource if they spend too much time waiting for their jobs to run. /snip In other terms: If I have a STC consuming 25,000 cpus / secs per month, and I spend two days optimizing it to reduce to 15,000. Am I gaining money or loosing time ? /esnip Getting back to your first question, I'd say maybe. If you need that 15,000 CPU seconds for other work, or if trimming them keeps your peak down for the month, you may save more than would be obvious. Your customer may be delighted that you care about keeping their bill down and may bring you a bunch more billiable work. It depends. HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: Salva Carrasco scarra...@unicaja.es To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 2:13:24 PM Subject: Re: How many cost a cpu second? Apart from the syntax error How many vs. How much, My question is not having much success. In other terms: If I have a STC consuming 25,000 cpus / secs per month, and I spend two days optimizing it to reduce to 15,000. Am I gaining money or loosing time ? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Problem with SMP/E RECEIVE ORDER
Hi Jürgen, I had a similar issue with a service package that was larger that 8GB, about a year ago. IBM opened an APAR - it was JAVA that couldn't handle the package size . I didn't have time to wait so I ordered my service on tape. I don't have the APAR info handy at the moment, but will try to find it for you tomorrow, if you still need it. I recommend that you open a issue. The APAR may be reselved by now, in which case you could put the PTF for that, and try again or - The work around is to reduce the size of the package, by ordering parts of it at a a time, or order tape. HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: Jürgen Kehr kehrjuer...@t-online.de To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 3:48:41 PM Subject: Problem with SMP/E RECEIVE ORDER Hi, today I get a problem with SMPE RECEIVE ORDER. With several tries I always get the following message: GIM69212S ** RECEIVE PROCESSING HAS FAILED FOR ORDER ORD2. A PACKAGE FOR ORDER ORD2 WITH ORDERID H73315968 CANNOT BE CREATED BECAUSE THE PACKAGE SIZE (10282199040 BYTES) WOULD EXCEED THE THRESHOLD FOR INTERNET DELIVERY (80 BYTES). Two questions regarding this message: 1. Is there any chance to identify which very large PTFs lead to such a large package size? Can I RECEIVE then the PTFs one by one by using CONTENT(PTFS(xxx)) instead of CONTENT(ALL) or CONTENT(RECOMMENDED)? 2. If some PTFs are logically connected via REQ (one requires the other, both or all are not already received), in this case is it possible to RECEIVE these PTFs one by one, or will I always get the whole package? Thanks in advance for any help. -- Freundliche Gruesse / Kind regards *Dipl. Math. Juergen Kehr * IT Schulung Beratung / IT Education + Consulting Elfbuchenstrasse 10 34317 Habichtswald Germany Tel. +49-5606-5337408 Fax +49-3222-9341387 Mobil +49-172-5129389 mailto:kehrjuer...@t-online.de mailto:kehrjuer...@googlemail.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Dumps to vendors with sensitive data
Hi Andy, It has been 3-4 years since the last time, and it was sniffer logs, dumps, and traces - full end to end to resolve a critical remote printer issue for law enforcement. We redacted what could be redacted - Ip addresses were replaced with literals, e.g. C-IP-addr1, for customer IP address 1, and so on. We were careful to replace with meaningful substitutions, so as not to complicate the troubleshooting efforts, while not revealing anything that our customer wasn't okay with. The problem print was traced, sniffed, and dumps were taken. We also had the vendors id the individuals who would be working the problem and everybody signed non-disclosure agreements. The root cause of the problem was found and corrected within about a week. For your situation, I would suggest that you begin with the requirements of law (if any) that cover your data and your situation. It sure sounds like it would come under HIPPA, so I did a quick Google search for ' what is Tricare data'. Breaches require free credit monitoring, and it is covered by HIPPA - according to some of the search results. HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: Andy White awh...@metlife.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 9:57:19 AM Subject: Dumps to vendors with sensitive data We recently have a DOD (Department of Defense) account on our systems. Question if you are sending a dump to a vendor e.g. IBM and there might be a slight change it has user data stored in common storage. Do you have a DOD approved person within IBM you send the dump to? Or an assigned group to your account that deals with GSA/DOD type of issues? We haven't sent any dumps to a vendor since taking on this new work but wanted to know how other companies handle this? Andy S. White The information contained in this message may be CONFIDENTIAL and is for the intended addressee only. Any unauthorized use, dissemination of the information, or copying of this message is prohibited. If you are not the intended addressee, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: FYI LinKEdln passwords hacked
Hi Radoslaw, I do see your point, however, I personally know over 20 people who use LinkedIn and are mainframers. Ed's post came before the breach hit the main media, so it was more timely - and I appreciate that. Right after reading Ed's post, I forwarded it to my friends who use LinkedIn. It was the first that most of them had heard too, and they got busy changing their passwords. Linda - Original Message - From: R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2012 4:35:09 AM Subject: Re: FYI LinKEdln passwords hacked W dniu 2012-06-06 23:31, Ed Gould pisze: LinkedIn Users: Change Password Now Attackers appear to have obtained--and may have already decrypted--at least 6.5 million LinkedIn passwords. How is it related to IBM mainframes? Hint: Maybe some mainframers do use this portal, but mainframers also use VISA cards, hammers, watch football, wear panties (or not), etc. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- Tre tej wiadomoci moe zawiera informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wycznie do uytku subowego adresata. Odbiorc moe by jedynie jej adresat z wyczeniem dostpu osób trzecich. Jeeli nie jeste adresatem niniejszej wiadomoci lub pracownikiem upowanionym do jej przekazania adresatowi, informujemy, e jej rozpowszechnianie, kopiowanie, rozprowadzanie lub inne dziaanie o podobnym charakterze jest prawnie zabronione i moe by karalne. Jeeli otrzymae t wiadomo omykowo, prosimy niezwocznie zawiadomi nadawc wysyajc odpowied oraz trwale usun t wiadomo wczajc w to wszelkie jej kopie wydrukowane lub zapisane na dysku. This e-mail may contain legally privileged information of the Bank and is intended solely for business use of the addressee. This e-mail may only be received by the addressee and may not be disclosed to any third parties. If you are not the intended addressee of this e-mail or the employee authorised to forward it to the addressee, be advised that any dissemination, copying, distribution or any other similar activity is legally prohibited and may be punishable. If you received this e-mail by mistake please advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your e-mail software and delete permanently this e-mail including any copies of it either printed or saved to hard drive. BRE Bank SA, 00-950 Warszawa, ul. Senatorska 18, tel. +48 (22) 829 00 00, fax +48 (22) 829 00 33, www.brebank.pl, e-mail: i...@brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2012 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 168.410.984 zotych. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Exclusive ENQ on dataset owned (SHR) by Started Task?
Hi Dave, Which VPS dataset? Thanks, Linda - Original Message - From: Dave L - Eagan Hansen, MN dave.l.han...@usps.gov To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 9:33:55 AM Subject: Exclusive ENQ on dataset owned (SHR) by Started Task? Group, We are running z/OS V1R13 and a product called VPS. I wrote some code to ADD, UPDATE and DELETE members of a PDS. It worked fine until VPS came up. I see that the VPS started task OWNS SHR the dataset. I need to allocate a dataset exclusively (EXCL/DISP=MOD) to do a delete from REXX (or batch). I can go out by hand using 3.4 and delete all I want from the dataset while VPS is up. I asked the vendor if they can FREE the dataset after program initialization. Waiting to hear back. Q). What is the best way to delete a PDS member while the started task has it allocated DISP=SHR? Thanks in advance, Dave Dave Hansen Eagan Software Systems Branch 651-406-1208 dave.l.han...@usps.gov -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Exclusive ENQ on dataset owned (SHR) by Started Task?
Hi Dave, The VPS printer member dataset has an as-shipped lower level of CNTL - unless you are using a local name? Linda - Original Message - From: Dave L - Eagan Hansen, MN dave.l.han...@usps.gov To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 1:38:54 PM Subject: Re: Exclusive ENQ on dataset owned (SHR) by Started Task? Linda, My parmlibs have the printer members in them. I was just trying to get a REXX job to delete a printer member. Address ISPEXEC LMINIT DATAID(INDD) DATASET('VPS.PARMLIB3') ENQ(SHRW) LMOPEN DATAID(INDD) OPTION(OUTPUT) LMMDEL DATAID(INDD) MEMBER(DAVE) LMCLOSE DATAID(INDD) LMFREE DATAID(INDD) Thanks for everybody's help, Dave Dave Hansen Eagan Software Systems Branch 651-406-1208 dave.l.han...@usps.gov -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Linda Mooney Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 2:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Exclusive ENQ on dataset owned (SHR) by Started Task? Hi Dave, Which VPS dataset? Thanks, Linda - Original Message - From: Dave L - Eagan Hansen, MN dave.l.han...@usps.gov To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2012 9:33:55 AM Subject: Exclusive ENQ on dataset owned (SHR) by Started Task? Group, We are running z/OS V1R13 and a product called VPS. I wrote some code to ADD, UPDATE and DELETE members of a PDS. It worked fine until VPS came up. I see that the VPS started task OWNS SHR the dataset. I need to allocate a dataset exclusively (EXCL/DISP=MOD) to do a delete from REXX (or batch). I can go out by hand using 3.4 and delete all I want from the dataset while VPS is up. I asked the vendor if they can FREE the dataset after program initialization. Waiting to hear back. Q). What is the best way to delete a PDS member while the started task has it allocated DISP=SHR? Thanks in advance, Dave Dave Hansen Eagan Software Systems Branch 651-406-1208 dave.l.han...@usps.gov -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Consoles New options
Hi Matan, It sounds like your console has a control area set for it. Control areas can be set up in parmlib, or by command, usually at the console itself (can be done at another console). To confirm, enter K A,REF at the console. The system will respond with the size of the control area, if one has been set. To remove a control area enter K A,NONE at the console. Your z/OS Commands manual will have more info. Check also in the CONSOLxx member of parmlib for the AREA statement. Many shops set the AREA to none. HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: Matan Cohen matancohen...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 11:56:11 PM Subject: Consoles New options Hi, I notice that since z/OS 1.10 (maybe even from an earlier releases) the Consoles was a little bit diffrent. one of the Major diffrent is regarding the response messages . when i'm entering a console command the response message is appearing in the bottom of the console messages and doesn't scroll up as other messages. can some one point me to a document describing this options and How can i control them . -- __ best regards, matan cohen MF System Administrator. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: REPRO MERGECAT performance
Thanks, Ed. Many years ago, one of the sysprogs started using a reserved field in the VTOC. Along comes SMS and all those VTOCs needed a clean up. :) I agree, it's best to leave the reserved/undocumented fields alone. Linda - Original Message - From: Ed Gould edgould1...@comcast.net To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 9:48:46 PM Subject: Re: REPRO MERGECAT performance The third vendor (NOT DINO or the other) sorry I wasn't clear on that. Using undocumented fields in the catalog is just plain inexcusable (IMO). Reserved fields are just that NO one is supposed to use them except IBM (IMO). Ed On May 26, 2012, at 4:26 PM, Linda Mooney wrote: Hi Ed, /snip We took the other one and in addition there were side bennies. We also got burned by an OEM that depended on some slight alterations to the catalog that were really not documented /esnip Did you mean that you got burned by the other one (not Dino-Soft) or another (3rd) vendor? Thanks, Linda - Original Message - From: Ed Gould edgould1...@comcast.net To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 11:17:37 AM Subject: Re: REPRO MERGECAT performance Dave: We took the other one and in addition there were side bennies. We also got burned by an OEM that depended on some slight alterations to the catalog that were really not documented although I think IBM and the vendor agreed to disagree on the peculiarity (use of undocumented fields) in the catalog. I got caught in the middle as I raised the flag. IMO the vendor was at fault but its water under the bridge. I will never use the other vendor again as a result (although its a great vendor) I do not like getting burned. Ed On May 25, 2012, at 12:51 PM, Gibney, Dave wrote: In the spirit of evenhandedness, faster mergecat is one of the good reasons to acquire T-Rexx from Dinosoft, or the other one :) Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University On May 25, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Mary Anne Matyaz wrote: Can MERGECAT performance be improved by altering the buffer space values for either the input or output catalog, or both? If you have a lot of VSAM, probably not. As I recall, doing a large repro mergecat with a lot of VSAM was very slow, but it was mostly due to the need to go change every vvds entry. In other words, I don't think you'll get a lot of bang for your buck. Mary Anne --- - -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN - - For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN - - For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: REPRO MERGECAT performance
Hi Ed, /snip We took the other one and in addition there were side bennies. We also got burned by an OEM that depended on some slight alterations to the catalog that were really not documented /esnip Did you mean that you got burned by the other one (not Dino-Soft) or another (3rd) vendor? Thanks, Linda - Original Message - From: Ed Gould edgould1...@comcast.net To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 11:17:37 AM Subject: Re: REPRO MERGECAT performance Dave: We took the other one and in addition there were side bennies. We also got burned by an OEM that depended on some slight alterations to the catalog that were really not documented although I think IBM and the vendor agreed to disagree on the peculiarity (use of undocumented fields) in the catalog. I got caught in the middle as I raised the flag. IMO the vendor was at fault but its water under the bridge. I will never use the other vendor again as a result (although its a great vendor) I do not like getting burned. Ed On May 25, 2012, at 12:51 PM, Gibney, Dave wrote: In the spirit of evenhandedness, faster mergecat is one of the good reasons to acquire T-Rexx from Dinosoft, or the other one :) Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University On May 25, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Mary Anne Matyaz wrote: Can MERGECAT performance be improved by altering the buffer space values for either the input or output catalog, or both? If you have a lot of VSAM, probably not. As I recall, doing a large repro mergecat with a lot of VSAM was very slow, but it was mostly due to the need to go change every vvds entry. In other words, I don't think you'll get a lot of bang for your buck. Mary Anne -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN - - For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Tape drives with magazine (autoloader) like 3592 family
If the equipment you need has been withdraw from marketing, it may very well end up in the secondary (used) market, even if it is still new. Contact your IBM rep, and ask about the availability of what you want. Check with your maintenance vendor. They can often find equipment for you too. Linda Sent from my iPhone On May 22, 2012, at 6:44 AM, Arye Shemer aryeshe...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, forgot to mention, must be new not used equipment. Arye. On 22 May 2012 01:39, Linda Mooney linda.lst...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Arye, IBM offers used euqiment, including tape equipment at http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/info/used/servers.htmlthen select storage. The are also many other firms selling used IBM equpiment. A Google search for used TS3400 should bring up quite a few vendors. HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: Arye Shemer aryeshe...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 10:26:25 AM Subject: Tape drives with magazine (autoloader) like 3592 family Hello forumers, We already tried Tapecore and we thought trying out luck here. I have been asked to look for tape drives with magazine or autoloader for cartridges (like the old 3590 with ACL), To best of my knowledge IBM stop marketing the IBM autoloader TS3400 (for two 3592 with 20 cartridges). Any other vendor pehaps you know of ? Thanks for suggestions. Arye Shemer. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Tape drives with magazine (autoloader) like 3592 family
Hi Arye, IBM offers used euqiment, including tape equipment at http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/info/used/servers.html then select storage. The are also many other firms selling used IBM equpiment. A Google search for used TS3400 should bring up quite a few vendors. HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: Arye Shemer aryeshe...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 10:26:25 AM Subject: Tape drives with magazine (autoloader) like 3592 family Hello forumers, We already tried Tapecore and we thought trying out luck here. I have been asked to look for tape drives with magazine or autoloader for cartridges (like the old 3590 with ACL), To best of my knowledge IBM stop marketing the IBM autoloader TS3400 (for two 3592 with 20 cartridges). Any other vendor pehaps you know of ? Thanks for suggestions. Arye Shemer. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: EPSPT vs. FIXCAT
Hi Jürgen, You might try the CICS list for CICS specific information. You can go to www.listserv.uag.edu and view the posts for CICS-L list and, if you want to, subscribe. FIXCAT is IBM's stated direction. I don't work with CICS, but I have done a lot of SMP/e. In order to use the FIXCATs to advantage with any SMP/e installed product , your SMP/e install has to be at least SMP/e 3.5. You also have to upgrade the zones to that level as well, a step that is often missed. Once you have SMP/e 3.5 and have run the UPGRADE command for each of your zones, you will be able to process the FIXCATs you should receive with your HOLDDATA. If you are not at the right SMP/e level, you should see this message when you try to receive service. - GIM58903W SMP/E COULD NOT PROCESS A ++HOLD FIXCAT MCS BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE MADE A CHANGE TO THE GLOBAL ZONE THAT CANNOT BE PROCESSED COMPLETELY BY PRIOR LEVELS OF SMP/E. USE THE UPGRADE COMMAND TO ALLOW SMP/E TO MAKE SUCH CHANGES. A Google search using cics smp/e v3r5 fixcat will bring up several good references that you might find useful, including a few for CICS. A Google search for CICS fixcat will bring up more. HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: Jürgen Kehr kehrjuer...@t-online.de To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 1:54:37 PM Subject: EPSPT vs. FIXCAT Hello, from some IBM information I find out that sevral years ago a tool named EPSPT (Enhanced Preventive Service Planning Tool) existed, which used extracted PSP bucket data to report missing PTFs for several products in a z/OS environment. Therefore it used data from the FTP server at ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/s390/pspapartool/ There is still some data available on this site, but it seemes that IBM stopped the update of this data in 2011. The tool itself was replaced by the SMP/E FIXCAT processing. The PSP buckets are still available under http://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/set2/psp/srchBroker and they are regulary updated. But with these new data I have some problems/questions: 1. It seems that for some major products (for example CICS) FIXCATs are not yet available. So because the data on the FTP server is not updated anymore and these FIXCATs are missing I have no way for an automated check for missing fixes. Or is there any other place, where the actual extracted PSP data is stored. 2. When I'm looking for the PSP buckets on the site named above, I'm able to get all the information from any PSP bucket, but only displayed in my browser. I didn't find a way to get them downloaded as txt files, nor I find an FTP server where I can get the txt files. If I would find a way to get such easy flat files, it would be possible to extract the required information for missing PTFs by myself. Thanks in advance for any help in this topic. -- Freundliche Gruesse / Kind regards Dipl. Math. Juergen Kehr IT Schulung Beratung / IT Education + Consulting Elfbuchenstrasse 10 34317 Habichtswald Germany Tel. +49-5606-5337408 Fax +49-3222-9341387 Mobil +49-172-5129389 mailto:kehrjuer...@t-online.de mailto:kehrjuer...@googlemail.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Users access to mainframe applications
Hi Munif, A lot depends on what your environment is like and what you are trying to accomplish. If you are needing to bill customers for their usage or if you are needing to control access to and monitor applications access or even just logon/logoff, how you approach the task could be different. RACF will be useful for controlling access, of course. SAS and MXG will help processes and report on the SMF data. Check to be sure that you are gathering the SMF data that you need. If you are not sure what to collect, the manuals will help, and you might try turning all of the SMF record types on for a short time, just to see what would be produced on your system. CAUTION - it can be a LOT of data, depending on how large and how active your system is. You did not say what your mainframe session manager is, but generally speaking, they either do or can write some type of SMF or session records. It may be that a configuration option in the product itself requires setup or activation. Check the install guides for the product or contact the vendor, if you have support. HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: Munif Sadek munif.sa...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:24:12 AM Subject: Users access to mainframe applications Dear listers I have a requirement to produce daily report on user access to Host based applications (CICS + TSO - Green screens). I do have SAS, MXG, RACF and was thinking of using IRRADU00 output and SAS/MXG (SMF type 30 subtype 1 and 80 records) but not sure if it will include CICS access as well. My mainframe session manager does record logon/logoff to mainframe applications although not supported by MXG. And other probloems are that User can bypass session manager to access mainframe applications and our CICS is MRO. Just wanted to know how other sites are doing it.. Any pointers in the right direction? regards Munif. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Is having an OMVS segment on a userid with RACF SPECIAL an issue?
Hi Bruce, If you search the archives of this forum you will find some interesting reading regarding the use of RACF SPECIAL. HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: Bruce Wheatley bwheat...@cds.ca To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 12:22:34 PM Subject: Is having an OMVS segment on a userid with RACF SPECIAL an issue? I seem to recall that in the past adding an OMVS segment to a userid with RACF SPECIAL was considered a no-no. Something to do with the posiibility of the userid being hijacked thereby allowing access to its SPECIAL attribute. Is this still a concern (was it ever?) and if so are there ways to prevent such hijacking? TIA (Posted on both RACF IBM-Main lists) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Early IPL problems
Yup, that's it. Good product, good vendor. SAE used to be called NOTSO. They have another product, Image Focus that will let you run a virtual IPL with all of your changes before going live. Really nice in a small shop with no real sandbox. Linda - Original Message - From: Bill Fairchild bfairch...@rocketsoftware.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 1:58:02 PM Subject: Re: Early IPL problems Calgary, not Winnipeg. SAE is Stand-Alone Environment (not editor). NewEra is right. Bill Fairchild Programmer Rocket Software 408 Chamberlain Park Lane * Franklin, TN 37069-2526 * USA t: +1.617.614.4503 * e: bfairch...@rocketsoftware.com * w: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 3:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Early IPL problems NewEra Software markets SAE. They also have a DASD erase program. We use it at DR to scrub all our data. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bill Fairchild Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 3:51 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Early IPL problems SAE - StandAlone Editor, from a vendor whose name escapes me now, in Winnipeg, Canada, I believe. Bill Fairchild Programmer Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: ### of GDG Entries
Hi John, I have had I similar GDG 'thing'. It would be helpful to know more details... In my case, we were receiving a widely varying number of reports that we were to backup and print for our customer. We scheduled the print job to run every 8 hours. The operations staff fit the actual printing in to meet customer needs. Would that work for you? Another option might include merging the generations to another dataset. HTH, Linda Sent from my iPhone On May 10, 2012, at 1:12 PM, Donnelly, John john.p.donne...@ti.com wrote: We have a business application that creates literally 100s of GDGs a day; please don't ask. Is there any way to create or pretend to create a GDG base greater than 255... John Donnelly Texas Instruments SVA 2900 Semiconductor Drive Santa Clara, CA 95051 408-721-5640 408-470-8364 Cell john.p.donne...@ti.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Old blank tape cartridges
Hi David, I forget, but I remember who to ask. :) Probably have an answer for you tomorrow. Linda - Original Message - From: David Andrews d...@lists.duda.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Monday, May 7, 2012 6:19:11 AM Subject: Re: Old blank tape cartridges On Sun, 2012-05-06 at 16:17 -0400, Linda Mooney wrote: Many jurisidctions have, in the last few years, made putting tapes into the trash illegal. It is that way where I am. A couple of years ago I tried hard to find a recycler for my ancient 3480 library. I came up empty-handed, and when I rang up my local (central Florida) waste management authority the nice lady told me to simply dump 'em. I was astonished and asked her to confirm, which she did. Weird. When we dispose of old tape we have to send it to an eWaste company. Can you name the company? -- David Andrews A. Duda Sons, Inc. david.andr...@duda.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Old blank tape cartridges
Hi Cheryl, Many jurisidctions have, in the last few years, made putting tapes into the trash illegal. It is that way where I am. When we dispose of old tape we have to send it to an eWaste company. We de-installed our last drives capable of writing to 3480 several years ago. Our tapes had been in heavy use for years, so they got shredded - cheaper than erasing the data off of them. Since your tapes are empty, and If no one on the list wants them, you might try eBay. I have seen reels and 3480 tapes sell there a number of times. Some might buy some for souvenirs and others to use. The main thir d party maintenance vendors may have customers who want them - and would probably pick them up. There are also the used equipment vendors who might be interested. As for the racks, what size, what capacity? I would like to have something I can put on a shelf. :) Thanks, Linda - Original Message - From: Cheryl Watson cwwalke...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Sunday, May 6, 2012 7:38:19 AM Subject: Old blank tape cartridges I have 50 or so blank, unused, 3480 cartridges from 2005 (IMATION - 3M Royal Guard 3480, 210 MB). Are they only worthy of the dump at this point? If you want to ship, they come with storage racks. ;-) Thanks, Cheryl -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Old timer question
Hi John, A long time ago, we had a lot of these in my shop. COBOL programs that wrote labels at 133/133 FA, printed on continous form label stock, generally 3 labels wide . The RECFM was set in the COBOL program, and that was where it had to be fixed. At that time, the big advantage was that the labels could be unspooled from tape direct to printer, so it gave the operator very tight control on back space, etc. if a label peeled off in the printer and needed to be recovered. If the print ran through JES2, there would always be a lot fewer 'pages' in the buffer if the printer had to be backspaced there. There were some attempts made to change the DCB after the dataset was built, but they were not successful. I don't know exactly what they tried - I was at the printing end in those days. HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: John Norgauer john.norga...@ucdmc.ucdavis.edu To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Friday, May 4, 2012 1:44:10 PM Subject: Old timer question We have a dataset that is as follows: Management class . . :,**None**, ,,Allocated cylinders :,114 Storage class . . . :,**None**, ,,Allocated extents . :,4 ,Volume serial . . . :,SGP103, , ,,, , ,Device type . . . . :,3390 , ,, , Data class . . . . . :,**None**, ,, , ,Organization . . . :,PS , ,Current Utilization, ,Record format . . . :,FA , ,,Used cylinders . . :,80 ,Record length . . . :,133 , ,,Used extents . . . :,1 ,Block size . . . . :,133 , ,,, , ,1st extent cylinders:,90 ,,, , ,Secondary cylinders :,8 ,,Dates, ,Data set name type :, , ,,Creation date . . . :,1996/08/01 ,SMS Compressible. . :,NO , ,,Referenced date . . :,2012/05/04 Truly an ugly dataset... 133 by 133 and FA recform created in the 1996. I wanted to re-block the dataset for obvious reasons. I thought that 13300 blksize would work but DFP did not like that size. it said Record length is inconsistent with block size for this record format What would be a good blksize? John Norgauer Senior Systems Programmer Mainframe Technical Support Services University of California Davis Medical Center 2315 Stockton Blvd ASB 1300 Sacramento, Ca 95817 916-734-0536 SYSTEMS PROGRAMMING.. Guilty, until proven innocent !! JN 2004 Hardware eventually breaks - Software eventually works anon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Comments on DFSMS verbose messages?
Hi Kevin, In my shop, all of our support staff have access to view syslog/operlog , both the active and previous. W e would want to see the messaging in the syslog/operlog AND the joblog , but would want to have the ability to filter the verbose lines off of the console. This is not an effort on my par t to avoid looking up messages, but lean budgets have hit us hard, and we have lost a lot of staff. Those few of us who are left are happy for things that could save us time, especially when we are called to support a problem and have to do it on our own time. We are not at 1.13 yet and I have not seen examples of the messaging yet. Some of our customers use our central sysout repository, but our staff generally does not have access to the joblog there, except for the responsible application programmer, who would not be likely to be able use the information. Sysprogs do not have access to customer batch. For our customers who use a remote or off platform sysout respository, we have little or no access there . Thanks, Linda - Original Message - From: W. Kevin Kelley wkkel...@optonline.net To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 6:46:29 PM Subject: Comments on DFSMS verbose messages? In z/OS R13, DFSMS changed approximately 400 of their rather cryptic IEC error messages to include additional lines of explanation. Feedback from R13 ESP customers indicated that the additional lines of explanation were appreciated for end-users but were not wanted in the SYSLOG/OPERLOG or on consoles. A suggestion was made that the additional lines of explanation be written only to the JOBLOG and not to other places that the message might go. z/OS OA37957 and DFSMS OA37505 provide the suggested support: the additional lines of explanation -- now referred to as verbose message lines -- are written only to the JOBLOG; they are not included with the message if it is written to the SYSLOG/OPERLOG or queued to a console. A new .MSGOPTION statement has been added to MPFLSTxx to allow you to enable or disable verbose message support at a system level: if the support is disabled (the default), the DFSMS error messages will not include additional lines of explanation; if the support is enabled, the DFSMS error messages will include the additional lines of explanation, but the verbose message lines will be written only to the JOBLOG. The DISPLAY MPF command response now displays the MSGOPTION enablement state. If verbose message support is enabled, the additional message lines are visible in MPF exits and are visible on the Subsystem Interface (SSI). The following control blocks have been modified to provide an indication if a verbose message line is present: WPL, WQE, CTXT and MDB. We have been in contact with the various automation venders and they are all aware of how to recognize verbose message lines. We expect that most venders will choose to ignore the verbose message lines. Any comments/criticisms/suggestions? W. Kevin Kelley -- IBM POK Lab -- z/OS Core Technical Development -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Old timer question
Hi Mike, No. We would have wasted too many labels . W e printed pallets of labels a month in those days and we had to go to bid for the stock. We specified the size of the labels and the surrounding space between the labels - using standard sizes of labels. That way, we could entertain the bids of vendors with different page sizes - distance between the folds. The more level and open the 'playing field' the sharper the bidders pencils get. ;) Most of the vendors perforated the stock between every row of labels. The even and continuous forms let us ignore the folds and not waste any labels. The way the output was blocked allowed us to quickly locate the specific few blocks (1 block = 1 line) that contained a label that needed reprint (using the tape direct to printer unspool) and reprint just that one row of labels. We only unspooled labels to JES2 when it was a very small run. These days, label stock is pretty cheap and most of our labels use cutsheet label stock on a laser printer, a few sheets at a time. We seldom print labels on continous forms anymore. Linda - Original Message - From: Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2012 11:12:03 AM Subject: Re: Old timer question If they were labels, wouldn't it be a good idea to block by the number of lines in a page? On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Linda Mooney linda.lst...@comcast.net wrote: Hi John, A long time ago, we had a lot of these in my shop. COBOL programs that wrote labels at 133/133 FA, printed on continous form label stock, generally 3 labels wide . The RECFM was set in the COBOL program, and that was where it had to be fixed. At that time, the big advantage was that the labels could be unspooled from tape direct to printer, so it gave the operator very tight control on back space, etc. if a label peeled off in the printer and needed to be recovered. If the print ran through JES2, there would always be a lot fewer 'pages' in the buffer if the printer had to be backspaced there. There were some attempts made to change the DCB after the dataset was built, but they were not successful. I don't know exactly what they tried - I was at the printing end in those days. HTH, Linda -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Strip column 1 from reports
Hi Elardus, How about IEBPTPCH? It can handle ANSI or machine carriage control if you want the report to look like it would have on the printer, or you can use the RECORD statement - {label} RECORD {IDENT=(length,'name',input-location)} {,FIELD=(length {,input-location} {,conversion} {,output-location})} {,FIELD=...} to start your input field in column 2 and bypass the carriage control. Your original dataset could retain all of it's characteristics and the output of the IEBPTPCH can be directed however you wish. HTH, Linda VPS/DRS can do more than just print. Just sayin'. - Original Message - From: Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 9:27:23 AM Subject: Re: Strip column 1 from reports Paul Gilmartin wrote: In the wider perspective, ASA carriage control was originally a form of presentational markup targeted at a class of output devices, impact printers, then preponderant, now dwindling. Markup, yes, this is the correct word in these times of markup languages. The ASA cc was indeed a type of markup where you say, put text here, start new page there, overwrite a line there and there. It reminds me of the type of first column (AFAIK) where you tell the 3800 laser printer to use this or that font on this or that line. Any greybeards remembering this 3800 toy? ;-D It would be chaotic to produce an instance of each report for each class of output device (printer, 3278, GUI display, etc.) Semantic markup is the necessary answer. It would likewise be chaotic to undertake conversion of each report generator to generate reports with semantic markup. A likely better place to do this is in a SYSOUT writer that filters ASA carriage control to a semantic markup language such as HTML, or perhaps XML. Agreed 100%. Is there such software [1] ? I'm aware of XML on /zOS, but can you use it on a SYSOUT? And it might be unreasonable to expect such a filter to generate proper markup for intended tabular material in reports. (Does XMITIP, for example, to this?) Interesting question! Thanks, I wonder what answer you will get? Thanks Paul for your kind comments. It is much appreciated! Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht [1] - It seemed to me that LRS/DRS can do this, but then, there is no actual printing in this case. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: another mainframe shut down - available
Hi Rex, Very sorry to hear such sad news. Where are you located? We are currently running on a z800 at 13 MSUs, so it could be a possibility for us. Is the DASD available? Thanks, Linda - Original Message - From: Rex R. Pommier rex.pomm...@cnasurety.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 9:11:43 AM Subject: another mainframe shut down - available I got this approved by Darren. We are in the process of shutting our entire datacenter down because of a buyout. Our mainframe has been shut down and we are looking at disposing of it. Does anybody know of a computer room (or basement, or garage or anyplace else) that could become a new home for a z9-BC, scaled back to 15 MSUs? It's model is 2096-R01-G07, with 8 GB memory, 16 escon ports, 8 ficon ports, 2 OSA cards. Has an HMC as well. Also available is a TS3400 tape library, with 2-TS1120 drives, a 3592-C06 controller, and a tape HMC. We have a bunch of IBM x-series and p-series as well (along with a pile of other SAN and network equipment etc). Even the air conditioners, UPS units, and the raised floor need to be pulled! The building owners want the machine room gutted. If you are interested, please contact me OFF-LIST!! Rex rex.pomm...@cnasurety.com The information contained in this e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited and that you will be held responsible for any such unauthorized activity, including liability for any resulting damages. As appropriate, such incident(s) may also be reported to law enforcement. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to sender and destroy or delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: another mainframe shut down - available
OOPS! As I hit send I remembered (TOO LATE) that this was requested OFF-LIST. Please disregard. - Original Message - From: Linda lstsrv linda.lst...@comcast.net To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 2:25:23 PM Subject: Re: another mainframe shut down - available Hi Rex, Very sorry to hear such sad news. Where are you located? We are currently running on a z800 at 13 MSUs, so it could be a possibility for us. Is the DASD available? Thanks, Linda - Original Message - From: Rex R. Pommier rex.pomm...@cnasurety.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 9:11:43 AM Subject: another mainframe shut down - available I got this approved by Darren. We are in the process of shutting our entire datacenter down because of a buyout. Our mainframe has been shut down and we are looking at disposing of it. Does anybody know of a computer room (or basement, or garage or anyplace else) that could become a new home for a z9-BC, scaled back to 15 MSUs? It's model is 2096-R01-G07, with 8 GB memory, 16 escon ports, 8 ficon ports, 2 OSA cards. Has an HMC as well. Also available is a TS3400 tape library, with 2-TS1120 drives, a 3592-C06 controller, and a tape HMC. We have a bunch of IBM x-series and p-series as well (along with a pile of other SAN and network equipment etc). Even the air conditioners, UPS units, and the raised floor need to be pulled! The building owners want the machine room gutted. If you are interested, please contact me OFF-LIST!! Rex rex.pomm...@cnasurety.com The information contained in this e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited and that you will be held responsible for any such unauthorized activity, including liability for any resulting damages. As appropriate, such incident(s) may also be reported to law enforcement. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to sender and destroy or delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Strip column 1 from reports
Greetings Elardus. Are you wanting to just rem ove the carraige control, or would you rather execute and write the ouput out as the finished reports? You could execute the cc programmatically or, if you have LRS/DRS ( probably other products might do similar things). DRS can be told to ignore carriage control and write a dataset or it can execute the cc and write a dataset. HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 7:01:01 AM Subject: Strip column 1 from reports Good day to all Is there a way to strip column 1 from reports, SYSOUT, output from ICETOOL, RACFRW, etc? As it is now, the method of specifying the ISO/ANSI/FIPS control characters (' ', '0', '-', '+', '1') [1] is not really used much these days. It makes these reports 'dirty', 'ugly', etc. Background, I have several jobs with reports from IBM utilities, sort results, etc, but these outputs are having those column 1. For example, using ICETOOL, despite trying out options and RECFM=FB, my output ends up having RECFM=FBA (column 1 with that control characters and other columns the report/output) Of course I could try out DFSORT with copy everything except column 1. But then I had to insert that step everywhere where that column can be eliminated. (Something like this: OUTREC FIELDS=(1:1,CHANGE=(1,C'1',C' ') ) Or I could feed those reports in a Assembler program which can do a TR. (similar to REXX's TRANSLATE function). Was this ever discussed here on IBM-MAIN? Is it possible? Am I overlooking something so very simple that it *must* be overlooked? :-D Any pointers are absolutely welcomed with gratitude. Many thanks in advance. Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht [1] - ISO/ANSI/FIPS control characters which are in column 1: b = Space one line (blank code) 0 = Space two lines - = Space three lines + = Suppress space 1 = Skip to channel 1 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Progress Toward z/OS Personal Use License
Hi Joel, Ditto what others have said about using a cable. You might try win7 compatibility mode for the software you mentioned. I have had good success with it so far. HTH, Linda Sent from my iPhone On Apr 25, 2012, at 8:43 AM, Joel C. Ewing jcew...@acm.org wrote: On 04/25/2012 09:38 AM, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: Pardon me if I misinterpreted, but your very short responses, each followed by a period, said each of these is an issue for me. Perhaps I need more coffee before I write such a question... :) Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 10:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Progress Toward z/OS Personal Use License On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 10:19:19 -0400, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: I'll grant you the dongle issue (but it's probably unavoidable) and possibly the APAR submission issue (which can be anything from a non-issue to a business killer), but why is Linux/Intel hosting a problem to you rather than a solution? Just curious. Who used the word problem or issue? -- ... A dongle definitely could be an issue for some. Might be less of an issue on Linux, but my experiences on Windoze has been less than ideal and makes me regard any application that requires a dongle as more of a gamble. While the dongle may be regarded as nice license insurance from the software vendors standpoint, it is essentially just another point of failure for the user and lowers the value of the product. My wife has some very expensive Embroidery software that requires a dongle. The license does entitle her to run the software on multiple platforms, both her laptop and desktop, since the dongle prevents concurrent use. After a year or so the dongle case became too loose to remove the dongle from the USB port - the only way now is grasp and pull the dongle base with a pair of needle-nose pliers, which works, but is certainly not the advertised convenience. The only support provided by the application vendor to remedy this situation is to re-purchase the software at full price to get a new dongle. Other than using standard Windows GUI interfaces, this software does nothing that special at the Operating System level, except for the dongle support that requires a hardware driver written by yet a different vendor. Logic would suggest that this application should be able to migrate from Win XP to Win 7 without a problem, provided one can find support for the dongle on Win 7. My initial attempts to migrate have so far failed because the dongle vendor's current drivers for Win 7 are not compatible with the older version dongle that came with the application. I haven't given up, but unless I can locate a compatible driver that is also compatible with Win 7 this expensive application is toast on Win 7. A nice result for the application vendor if I'm forced to do an otherwise unnecessary upgrade at great cost, but from the user's standpoint this is a very poor outcome, apparently forced by the decision to require a dongle. -- Joel C. Ewing,Bentonville, AR jcew...@acm.org -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OS V1R13 testing after migration
Hi Alvaro, Along with your ServerPac, there are instructions for testing system components/products and a library, *.SPAC.IVPLIB with some jobs in it. There is also some info in the Installing Your Order manual. The migration guide has a lot of info about changes and things that you need to do. If you search zOS install site:ibm.com and zOS migration site:share.org you should find helpful information there. Also check the program directories for your products. Run Health Checker in your test lpar. It will help you discover any problems. Your shop should also have a PDS of local test jobs, and hopefully some documentation, from when the previous version of z/OS was installed there. Many shops keep the library of user developed IVPs in a separate PDS, and update it as needed for each install. I t probably has IVP or IVPLIB somewhere in the name. HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: Alvaro Guirao Lopez alvarogui...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 3:57:36 AM Subject: z/OS V1R13 testing after migration Sorry if this is a dup.. but I don't find nothing related in the list. Do you know of any presentation or someting similar from SHARE or others that talks about actions taken for testing z/OS V1R13 and products related to the operating system release after migration from V1R11 (or others)? -- Un saludo. Álvaro Guirao -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: RAPID
Hi Keith, There is likely info in the product libraries, copyright notices, etc. Generally there is info, including the company name and contact info in the install library. The loadlib should have helpful eye catchers in some of the members. Google is often your friend. With what you are likely find in the libraries, you should be able to find the rest, including the info for the current product and vendor, if there is one. HTH, Linda Sent from my iPhone On Apr 6, 2012, at 6:00 AM, Keith Reynolds kreyno...@shelterinsurance.com wrote: All, I have some old libraries laying around from a product called RAPID. I've never used it or even heard of it before. Apparently the product was de-commissioned before I got here. I believe it is related to Office Vision and/or DISOSS. Who was the vendor? What did it do? What is it's current status i.e. still marketed? The only information I can find is that a company called TBS has a replacement product. Regards, Keith Reynolds System Programmer Shelter Mutual Insurance Company 1817 West Broadway Columbia, Missouri 65218 This e-mail is intended only for its addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mailing postmas...@shelterinsurance.com; then delete the original message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: RAPID
Hi Keith, If you will Google disoss rapid software there are a bunch of 'hits'. HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: Keith Reynolds kreyno...@shelterinsurance.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Friday, April 6, 2012 6:38:22 AM Subject: Re: RAPID Rex, The libraries are panels, clist, and loadlib. Regards, Keith Reynolds System Programmer Shelter Mutual Insurance Company 1817 West Broadway Columbia, Missouri 65218 573-214-6506 From: Pommier, Rex R. rex.pomm...@cnasurety.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 04/06/2012 08:23 AM Subject: Re: RAPID Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu What are the library names? I seem to recall some old serverpac installation verification tests that allocated RAPID1 and RAPID3 dataset or something like that. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Keith Reynolds Sent: Friday, April 06, 2012 8:01 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: RAPID All, I have some old libraries laying around from a product called RAPID. I've never used it or even heard of it before. Apparently the product was de-commissioned before I got here. I believe it is related to Office Vision and/or DISOSS. Who was the vendor? What did it do? What is it's current status i.e. still marketed? The only information I can find is that a company called TBS has a replacement product. Regards, Keith Reynolds System Programmer Shelter Mutual Insurance Company 1817 West Broadway Columbia, Missouri 65218 This e-mail is intended only for its addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mailing postmas...@shelterinsurance.com; then delete the original message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN The information contained in this e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited and that you will be held responsible for any such unauthorized activity, including liability for any resulting damages. As appropriate, such incident(s) may also be reported to law enforcement. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to sender and destroy or delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN This e-mail is intended only for its addressee and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mailing postmas...@shelterinsurance.com; then delete the original message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Initialize Tape error
Try adding STORCLASS=NONSMS to your tape dd. IF you are using any type of tape management product, e.g. CA1, RMM, ZARA, whatever, It is generally best to use the product's utility to init tapes. HTH Linda - Original Message - From: Jake anderson justmainfra...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Monday, April 2, 2012 7:54:10 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: Initialize Tape error Are your SMS rules overriding your allocation? Yes ACS routines are overriding it. 890 is our TAPE device. On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 8:37 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.comwrote: Probably due to lack of a DISP= parameter on the DD. The default is DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE). The OP should likely use a DISP=OLD on the DD that defines the drive to be used to initialize the tape. As coded, the DSN is a temporary DSN and DISP=(NEW,DELETE,DELETE), and so I would guess that the SMS routines are being invoked and trying to allocate a temporary disk dataset. John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Richard L Peurifoy Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 10:01 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Fwd: Initialize Tape error On 4/2/2012 4:26 AM, Jake anderson wrote: Changed the subject header On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 11:16 PM, Jake andersonjustmainfra...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, Reason for opting another option to initialize was due to the below abend : SYSTEM SUPPORT UTILITIES IEHINITT TAPE INITT SER=Z9BQB1 0007 IEH627I VOLUME NOT LABELED , REASON CODE = 1000. REFER TO MESSAGE MANUAL FOR FOR EXPLANATION OF BIT SETTINGS IEH605I INVALID DEVICE ALLOCATED ON D72D IEH607I ALLOCATED DEVICES EXHAUSTED JCL : //TAPEINIT JOB MSGCLASS=X,MSGLEVEL=(1,1),CLASS=T, // NOTIFY=SYSUID //STEP1 EXEC PGM=IEHINITT //TAPE DD UNIT=890,LABEL=(1,SL) //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSIN DD * TAPE INITT SER=Z9BQB1 The IEH605I message indicates device D72D, but your JCL specifies 890. Are your SMS rules overriding your allocation? -- Richard -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Printing limits and userids
Hi Dave, I know that you have the LRS products and some JES2 printing. What kind(s) of Jes2 printing (PSF, InfoPrint, line print) do you do? VPS printers can have limits set. In my shop there is a global limit set on print size in the VPS default member, then some printers have different limits (larger or smaller) coded within each printer member. And some printers have multiple names and definitions, so that other options can easily be managed. Printers with multiple names and VPS members all print to the same final print queue if they are destined for the same physical printer. That last part is done with a second VPS stc. Very easy to set up. JES2 printers can be limited to specific queue, line and or page limit, form, etc. In my shop, different output classes get different handling. There is a class for production line print on an impact printer. A separate clas s for production laser print - we use PSF . The are several output classes for programmer output. No programmer output is printed until the programmer checks it and sends to a printable class. At the end of the day, a JES offload picks up the programmer output, writes it to tape, deletes the output from JES2, and immediately reloads everything that was in class M or T to JES2 in class H. Everything that was originally in class H is not reloaded, but moved to the online viewer. We used to print a lot, but now most use the online viewer and print only selected pages from it. HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: Dave L - Eagan Hansen, MN dave.l.han...@usps.gov To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 2:29:29 PM Subject: Printing limits and userids Group, We have a lot of large reports in our MVS spool. Any suggestions on limiting users from printing large reports by their userids, or a way to differentiate between valid print processing and potentially erroneous print processing by report name with JES2? A 50,000 page report may be valid if coming from a production job but may well be in error if generated by a user/programmer. Somehow there would need to be a reference to valid users (userids), valid production jobs, valid printers, and number of pages. The pages may not be correct because the APF information has not been converted. I contacted the RACF group and it appears there is no option to limit printing by userid. I contacted our print software vendor (VPS). I have two choices: - Dynamically change the print page limit by printer. Not userid specific and you can print in sections which will still get your print printed and not exceed the limit of printable pages. - Use Exit 22 where we can trap the userid and requeue the large report output if it meets specifications. Then an appropriate operator command will need to be issued to JES to make SYSOUT available for printing again. Sounds like big overhead. So, any job can send output to the MVS spool. Maybe I could dedicate a class or job form for the large reports, but I don't know the best way to do this in JES2. From what I've seen you can just change the JES2 resources. and away goes the user/programmer's large report to the wrong printer. Many thanks in advance, Dave Dave Hansen Eagan Software Systems Branch 651-406-1208 dave.l.han...@usps.gov -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: catalogued datasets in tapes and expiration dates
CA1 options are in PPOPTION(TMOOPT00) You can have CA1, for example, delay the actual scratch of an uncatalogued volume. There are many other changes you can make there, including whether you use immediate scratch or require the TMSCLEAN to run. HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: Uriel Carrasquilla uriel.carrasqui...@mail.mcgill.ca To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:33:56 AM Subject: Re: catalogued datasets in tapes and expiration dates OK, I found out that we run the clean and scratch right after mid-night. Thank you. I also found out how to use the EXPDT by using YYY/J-DAY. Thank you all for your response. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] on behalf of McKown, John [john.mck...@healthmarkets.com] Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: catalogued datasets in tapes and expiration dates The status does not change until you run a CA-1 maintenance job. It is not real time. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Uriel Carrasquilla Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 10:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: catalogued datasets in tapes and expiration dates Forgot to mention, yes, I am using CA-1. I ran a GENER to copy to output file on our VTL (UNIT=V3590) with a LABEL=EXPDT=99000 with a DISP to CATLG if successful. It ran OK and put the dataset (no stacking) into VOL=SER=682436. Then, via ISPF TMS, I checked the volume and it shows the expiration date with the CATALOG description. Then, I went to ISPF 3.2 and uncatalogued the dataset. TMS still has the same information with the expiration date set to CATALOG. I was expecting to see SCRATCH instead. is this normal? From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] on behalf of Jonathan Goossen [jonathan.goos...@assurant.com] Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 10:23 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: catalogued datasets in tapes and expiration dates The answer likely varies by the TMS in use. CA-1 will keep the tape until every dataset on it is expired. This can be confusing as the volume record is also the first file on the tape. CA-1 will adjust its expiration to be equal the highest on the tape. If you manually expire the first file (volume record) then the entire tape will scratch regardless of the expiration of the rest of the files. That is one reason that I am very carful about changing the expiration of volume records. In CA-1 there is an expiration called CATALOG. It will expire the file when it is no longer cataloged. If a cataloged tape file has a Julian expiration, then uncataloging the file will not affect expiration. But scratching the tape will uncatalog the file. Thank you and have a Terrific day! Jonathan Goossen, DTM ACT Mainframe Storage Group Personal: 651-361-4541 Department Support Line: 651-361- For help with communication and leadership skills checkout Woodwinds Toastmasters IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 03/29/2012 08:51:19 AM: From: Uriel Carrasquilla uriel.carrasqui...@mail.mcgill.ca To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 03/29/2012 08:52 AM Subject: Re: catalogued datasets in tapes and expiration dates Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Let's say I have a tape with multiple datasets inside. Some datasets may be catalogued, some may not. I can understand the once not catalogued when they expire they no longer hold the tape from going to the scratch pool. But what about those cases when the catalogued datasets hit their expiration date? what happens? am I also correct in assuming that the entire tape with all the stacked datasets is being held until the last dataset in it expires? Please share your thoughts. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Tapeless solution (IBM or Sun) Enterprise class
We have a BusTech MDL. The doc also refers to it as MAS. It has performed very well for us. We pur chased before EMC did, and ours is backed by NetApp disk on a storage rack that is shared with a distributed system. The following link is to a pretty good article - http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9195959/EMC_buys_mainframe_virtual_tape_library_vendor_Bus_Tech Linda - Original Message - From: Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 10:43:01 AM Subject: Re: Tapeless solution (IBM or Sun) Enterprise class On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 10:15:26 -0500, Darth Keller darth.kel...@assurant.com wrote: Have you considered EMC DLm or Bus-tech MDL (EMC owns Bus-tech now). I have not worked with MDL (which I think is more of a small shop solution), but I have with DLm. I've also worked with VSM, but it was always backed by physical tape. BTW, the vendor is Oracle now, not Sun. So my understanding is the MDL was the HDS version of the DLM - the Bustech appliance ahead of HDS storage. We have an HDS MDL which uses an AMS2500 for back-end storage. It's also my understanding that the MDL is no longer available as such. HDS now sells the Falconstor's VTL instead. I would consider the DLM the MDL to be roughly equivalent. We are very happy with the performance of the MDL. dd keller Thanks for that clarification. I really don't know the history behind the Bus-tech and I think I used MDL when I shouldn't have to refer to it pre- HDS (or is that not even correct). Was the original just called MAS (Mainframe Appliance for Storage). Mark -- Mark Zelden - Zelden Consulting Services - z/OS, OS/390 and MVS mailto:m...@mzelden.com Mark's MVS Utilities: http://www.mzelden.com/mvsutil.html Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Tapeless solution (IBM or Sun) Enterprise class
Hi Tommy, For #2- A very large potion of our tapes are kept for 30 days or less. So, for cutover, the BusTech joined the same SMS pool and esoteric pool as the ATL/VTS it was replacing and the ATL/VTS was quiesced. All new allocations went to the BusTech. After a few weeks most of the migration took care of itself. HTH Linda - Original Message - From: Tommy Tsui tommyt...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 4:58:59 AM Subject: Re: Tapeless solution (IBM or Sun) Enterprise class What I concerns are: 1. Tape still have life time, if 1TB tape damage then we need more time to re-built or re-create it, except you implement dual copy or PPRC VTS and it cost you more. 2. Tape migration is my concern, I think disk to disk migration is more faster solution. I can't find any migration approach for B20 to TS7740 or TS7740 to another new model, except using COPYCAT or TAPECOPY utility, read all tapes to cache and copy back to other tape subsystem 3. IBM Tape drives cannot read each other, TS1120, TS1130, TS1140...If a new model comes and we need to preform another migrationcopy again and again from tape to another tape system because of new drives.TRUE -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Trying to capture JES2 Job Log
Hi Alan, Try adding a sysprint dd statement. I did that to a few STC here. Worked. HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: Alan Schwartz alan.schwa...@acs-inc.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 2:02:13 PM Subject: Re: Trying to capture JES2 Job Log I've been away for a while but ready to revisit this at it's a real irritant. It shouldn't be this difficult. I checked a task I can cycle as needed. When I view the stc via SDSF all portions (except internal text) show msgclass of 7 which is what is desired. NP DDNAME StepName ProcStep DSID Owner C Dest Rec-Cnt JESJCLIN 1 *BYPASS* 7 2 JESMSGLG JES2 2 *BYPASS* 7 2 JESJCL JES2 3 *BYPASS* 7 34 JESYSMSG JES2 4 *BYPASS* 7 2 $INTTEXT JES2 5 *BYPASS* A 9 But when I stop the task and the output goes to EOS I just get JESJCL and JESSYSMSG. I still think it might be an EOS issue. Vendor can't help Alan Schwartz ITO Global Service Operations and Engineering 1500 Towerview Rd. Eagan, MN 55121-1346 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 2:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Trying to capture JES2 Job Log I'm attempting to save started task output in our output management database. We use EOS. I changed the JOBCLASS(STC) MSGCLASS to the class EOS uses and I get the JESJCL and JESYSMSG files and that's all. Any clues what else I might need to alter to capture the JESMSGLG file? You need to have your MSGCLASS and SYSOUT Class go to the same place. Are they both coded the same? I typically see the following JESMSGLG JES2 This is the JOBLOG JESJCL JES2 This the JCL with substitutions JESYSMSG JES2 This is each step statistics (datasets, ucb, etc...) If you set MSGCLASS=X, all three should go to output class X unless you have exits. Or do you have a JOBCARD added to your STC that uses a different MSGCLASS? Is the STC being started with a MSGCLASS other than what you want? You can issue S STCNAME,MSGCLASS=Y Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Cataloged dataset
If you query the volume, what is on the tape? Is it possible that the tape set went to scratch and wasn't properly rescued from scratch? Linda Sent from my iPhone On Mar 29, 2012, at 2:04 PM, Mark Steely mark.ste...@wnco.com wrote: I have a PS dataset that is cataloged to 22 volumes. When I do an ISMF list on the dataset I get the message dataset not found on volume XX . Is there a way to remove the volume from the catalog entry? We are z/OS v1r11 - this dataset is not SMS managed. Thanks *** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE *** This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged and confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message from your system. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/os every two years
Greetings to All, This link may help - http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/support/zos_eos_dates.html Linda - Original Message - From: Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 11:10:11 AM Subject: Re: z/os every two years On 3/28/2012 7:16 AM, Dana Mitchell wrote: But as long as we are supposing here. Will they not extend the service discontinued date for 1.11 also? Asked and answered at the MVS Program Opening in Atlanta. The answer (paraphrased) from Jeff Magdall was, z/OS 1.11 will go out of service as already announced at the end of September 2012. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Grace Hopper Stories!! (was RE: Pre-Friday fun: Halon dumps and POK Resets)
Hi Phil, Ah yes. 11.8 inches, I believe. I still have mine. The last time I saw her, she was handing out picoseconds as well - the little 'to go' packets of ground pepper. I lost my picoseconds along the way. Once upon a time, when I was a student at Hartnell College in the Monterey Bay area, I was also the president of the student chapter of the Data Processing Management Association. Grace Hopper was often in the area at the Naval Post Graduate School, and there was a large data center. Our Parent DPMA chapter was able to arrange for her to speak to us several times at the NPGS. She was absolutely amazing. She helped to light the 'fire in the belly' for many of us. After the presentation, and usually a tour with stop and talks along the tours, we would gather 'round for a chat - those of us who were willing to stay late. A couple of times, she rewarded those few of us who stayed for the deep dive by introducing us to Arpanet. Last May, while in DC, I went to the Smithsonian to see the 'computer bug' and the rest of the displays, incuding hers. I was very disappointed that the display was down during renovations, but thrilled to run into a former neighbor of hers who remembered her fondly. Linda - Original Message - From: Phil Sevetson psevet...@fisa.nyc.gov To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 8:53:33 AM Subject: Grace Hopper Stories!! (was RE: Pre-Friday fun: Halon dumps and POK Resets) How many people here have been to one of her lectures? Where she used to hold up 11-inch bits of wire, explaining that This is a nanosecond and sometimes carried around a coil of wire that was a light-microsecond long? --Phil Sevetson -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Finnell Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 4:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Pre-Friday fun: Halon dumps and POK Resets Grace Hopper used to tell about the destroyer that lit up the Naval Yard outside of D.C. and crashed the data center. Personally, my fav was the Ops manager that upgraded the walkie-talkies for tech support from 1 watt to 3 watts(I think)-anyway if they were within 25' of a Memorex controller(DASD) it would bleep on itself In a message dated 3/22/2012 3:48:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time, scott_j_f...@yahoo.com writes: made a sweep they crashed on the mainframe, anyone heard that before ? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Pre-Friday fun: Halon dumps and POK Resets
Mid 1980's. We had added on to the raised floor. Halon vendor had finished adding the new room into the system and turned over to the building engineers. They had disabled the Halon system because the telco vendor was installing another phone rack. I came on shift early to give a troop of Boy Scou ts the 3 dollar tour on a Saturday. Everything looked fine with the Halon panel - disabled. I was in the tape library with the Boy Scouts when the Halon warning horn went off. There should have been a bell first, but not. That sea of young men parted quickly, me racing for the master abort. Reaching for the abort, only inches away, the Halon started to dump. I have never seen young men run so fast, but in a flash down the ramp and out the computer room door they went. The Halon panel lights still showed disabled status. The tripped zone was where the telco vendor was working. That zone dumped and the Halon system was in full auto - no way to stop it then . The scouts didn't close the door while running for their lives, so that zone dumped. Then the next adjacent zone. The power didn't drop, so the electric door from the main room to the Command Center 'saw' the Halon cloud and opened r ight up. One of the building engineers, runing toward the Halon panel in the Command Center, opened the door between the print room and the Command Center, so the print room Halon dumped. Then the electric door between the print room and the new raised floor saw the cloud and opened, so that zone dumped too. When the building engineer reached the Halon panel, he couldn't get control of the panel. He thought it might be because power hadn't dropped at the beginning of the festivities, so - yep the big red button. I heard the screams of the DASD as they crashed. 12 hours later, the panel was truly disabled (and partly dismantled), the rooms vented, and power stable. The screams were from three thoroughly crashed DASD, and IBM came in to join the party. In another 4 hours, we were up again. Linda - Original Message - -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IEFBR14
Hi Rex, A good while ago, on 3390 SLEDs, non-SMS, z/OS 1.4, I used this 'feature' fairly often . We had a big batch process that, on the monthly run would delete a large PS work dataset at eoj. For the quarterly, that same dataset needed to be used in a successor job. The monthly job ran about 12-14 hours. The 'responsible' (or not!) programmer was supposed to take care of the disposition of that big dataset for the quarterly process. A bunch of times (until that programmer left), I'd get in to work to find the monthly still running and a bunch of panicked messages. Sure enough, the disp on the dataset was delete. So, I would mount the vol private and map it. Watch the job and map it again each time it took an extent. No space release coded, so that helped. When the monthly ended, IEFBR14 absolute track allocate the pieces of the dataset, concatenating it all together back into 1 whole with IEBGENER. It was a nice tool to have at the time. :-) Saved a huge rerun to recreate the data set and a day of application outage for the customer. I have also seen the situation you wrote about. One fairly ugly one where bad data was picked up and feed into a database. Linda - Original Message - From: Rex R. Pommier rex.pomm...@cnasurety.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 11:53:37 AM Subject: Re: IEFBR14 Bill, You are absolutely correct in that this change doesn't really provide much security. I'm looking at it from a different aspect, that of removing one additional way of shooting oneself in the foot. If not you (you being collective, not just Bill), how many of your colleagues (either in the systems programming area or application developers/operations) have had a dataset deleted, only to have a new one allocated directly on top of the old one with a compatible set of DCB information, and have somebody inadvertently run a program that read the old data. I know it has happened more than once where I've worked over the years. I'm sure this change will result (and has resulted) in fewer holes in feet. :-) Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bill Fairchild Sent: Monday, March 12, 2012 11:09 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: IEFBR14 Writing an EOF record at the beginning of the data set does indeed help prevent programs from reading old data when a data set is read immediately after being allocated, but the way it does this results in preventing the reading of old data only from the first track. If a program can read beyond this first track (which is not difficult to do even in an unauthorized program), then the program can still read all the rest of the old data in the allocated tracks. The only way truly to prevent a program from reading any of the old data is to erase each allocated track, either when the old data set is deleted or when the new data set is allocated. Erasing is a very expensive process in terms of DASD utilization and elapsed time, which is why it is almost never done. This is perhaps another example of security through obscurity, which has been discussed lately under thread subjects starting with Program FLIH backdoor . I call it obscurity since getting beyond the first ! track deters most programs, but is not difficult if you know the obscure fact that it is quite easy to do if you want to. Bill Fairchild The information contained in this e-mail may contain confidential and/or privileged information and is intended for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited and that you will be held responsible for any such unauthorized activity, including liability for any resulting damages. As appropriate, such incident(s) may also be reported to law enforcement. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to sender and destroy or delete the message and any attachments. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SHARE in Atlanta -- Good Venue Choice!
Hi Ed, It's sure to be a great SHARE too. I hear that folks can still register on site for SHARE. www.share.org for the details. Have fun, Linda Sent from my iPhone On Mar 10, 2012, at 6:21 PM, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: So far, I commend SHARE on its choice of venue. The Omni Hotel at CNN Center in Atlanta is NICE! All SHARE guests get Select Guest privileges and the price is one of the lowest in recent memory. Good job, SHARE! -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IKT100I USERID CANCELED immediately after TN3270 connection fail
Hi Chen, There have been some good replies here on the list. I would like to offer theses comments in addtion. My shop had lots of dropped connection issues when we used to use a remote client to log in to our mainframe. Now we VPN to our regular workstation instead. This actually will work for any works tation that you are authorized to use at work. So you would VPN to your desktop at work and then , remotely, use your desktop at work as if you were actually at work. Then if you have a remote connection loss, it does not affect your actual TSO session at work. I have found that this works much better for me than trying to use a remote TN3270 client. HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: chen lucky chenluck...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Saturday, March 3, 2012 12:08:17 AM Subject: IKT100I USERID CANCELED immediately after TN3270 connection fail Hi List, Thanks for your help. Recently I encounter a problem that IKT100I USERID CANCELED immediately after TN3270 connection fail, and It is unacceptable in our shop, because users will lose their work that do not save in time. From SYSLOG I only got IKT100I, no other information was found. I tried to searched it using GOOGLE, but with not lucky. Following is the output of command D TCPIP,TN3270,TELNET,PROFILE,DETAIL. Thanks. -d tcpip,tn3270,telnet,PROF,DETAIL EZZ6080I TELNET PROFILE DISPLAY 608 PERSIS FUNCTION DIA SECURITY TIMERS MISC (LMTGCAK)(OATSKTQSWHRT)(DRF)(PCKLECXN2)(IPKPSTS)(SMLT) --- --- - --- *** **TSBTQ***RT EC* BB*** *P**STS *DD* *DEFAULT --- ---T --- - I---ST- SM-- *TGLOBAL --- W--- --- -B--- I-K---* *TPARMS *** **TSBTQ*W*RT EC* BB*** IPK*ST* SMD* CURR PERSISTENCE NOLUSESSIONPEND NOMSG07 NOTKOSPECLU NOTKOGENLU NOCHECKCLIENTCONN NODROPASSOCPRINTER KEEPLU 0 (OFF) FUNCTIONS NOOLDSOLICITOR NOSINGLEATTN TN3270E SNAEXTENT UNLOCKKEYBOARD BEFOREREAD UNLOCKKEYBOARD TN3270BIND SEQUENTIALLU NOSIMCLIENTLU WLMCLUSTERNAME NO HNLOOKUP REFRESHMSG10 TELNETDEVICE IBM-3277 D4B32782,**N/A** TELNETDEVICE IBM-3278-2-E NSX32702,SNX32702 O, TELNETDEVICE IBM-3278-2 D4B32782,SNX32702 TELNETDEVICE IBM-3278-3-E NSX32703,SNX32703 O, TELNETDEVICE IBM-3278-3 D4B32783,SNX32703 TELNETDEVICE IBM-3278-4-E NSX32704,SNX32704 O, TELNETDEVICE IBM-3278-4 D4B32784,SNX32704 TELNETDEVICE IBM-3278-5-E NSX32705,SNX32705 O, TELNETDEVICE IBM-3278-5 D4B32785,SNX32705 TELNETDEVICE IBM-3279-2-E NSX32702,SNX32702 O, TELNETDEVICE IBM-3279-2 D4B32782,SNX32702 TELNETDEVICE IBM-3279-3-E NSX32703,SNX32703 O, TELNETDEVICE IBM-3279-3 D4B32783,SNX32703 TELNETDEVICE IBM-3279-4-E NSX32704,SNX32704 O, TELNETDEVICE IBM-3279-4 D4B32784,SNX32704 TELNETDEVICE IBM-3279-5-E NSX32705,SNX32705 O, TELNETDEVICE IBM-3279-5 D4B32785,SNX32705 TELNETDEVICE LINEMODE INTERACT,**N/A** TELNETDEVICE IBM-DYNAMIC D4C32XX3,D4C32XX3 TELNETDEVICE IBM-3287-1 **N/A** ,D6328904 TELNETDEVICE TRANSFORM D4B32782,**N/A** DIAGNOSTICS DEBUG EXCEPTION DEBUG ROUTING CONSOLE NOFULLDATATRACE SECURITY PORT 23 CONNTYPE BASIC KEYRING **N/A** CRLLDAPSERVER **N/A** ENCRYPTION **N/A** CLIENTAUTH **N/A** NOEXPRESSLOGON NONACUSERID NOSSLV2 TIMERS INACTIVE 28 PROFILEINACTIVE 1800 KEEPINACTIVE 10 PRTINACTIVE 0 (OFF) SCANINTERVAL 3600 TIMEMARK 14400 SSLTIMEOUT **N/A** MISCELLANEOUS SMF SMFINIT 20 SMFTERM 21 SMFINIT NOTYPE119 SMFTERM NOTYPE119 MAX LIMITS MAXRECEIVE 65535 MAXVTAMSENDQ 50 MAXREQSESS 20 MAXRUCHAIN 0 (OFF) LINEMODE NOBINARYLINEMODE SGA CODEPAGE ISO8859-1 IBM-1047 TRANSFORM NODBCSTRANSFORM NODBCSTRACE - PORT: 23 ACTIVE PROF: CURR CONNS: 0 FORMAT SHORT TCPIPJOBNAME TCPIP TNSACONFIG DISABLED 90 OF 90 RECORDS DISPLAYED -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message
Re: IBM Announcement Letters
Hi Bob, What kind of A nnouncements? Depending on that, I have seen it happen on rare occasion, that there just weren't any of the particular kind. There were lots of entires in my Notifications this morning. This morning, I got just this for content in Announcements - Hardware * IBM zEnterprise and Unified Resource Manager enhancements * IBM System x3500 M4 tower servers feature fast 4C, 6C, and 8C Intel Xeon processors with QPI and 10 MB, 15 MB, or 20 MB cache for enhanced performance and scalability * New IBM System x 2.5-inch and 3.5-inch SATA and SAS drives offer highest performance options for optimizing storage and data management with effectiveness for IBM System x Summary of all IBM announcements for today * Announcement Summary - March 6, 2012 HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: Bob Shannon bshan...@rocketsoftware.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 4:56:50 AM Subject: Re: IBM Announcement Letters I received an announcement letter this morning, but it was almost content free. Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM Announcement Letters
OOPS!! These are NOT blank in my sent mail folder. Guess you'll have to trust me on that! Linda - Original Message - From: Linda Mooney linda.lst...@comcast.net To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 12:50:30 PM Subject: Re: IBM Announcement Letters Hi Bob, What kind of A nnouncements? Depending on that, I have seen it happen on rare occasion, that there just weren't any of the particular kind. There were lots of entires in my Notifications this morning. This morning, I got just this for content in Announcements - Hardware * IBM zEnterprise and Unified Resource Manager enhancements * IBM System x3500 M4 tower servers feature fast 4C, 6C, and 8C Intel Xeon processors with QPI and 10 MB, 15 MB, or 20 MB cache for enhanced performance and scalability * New IBM System x 2.5-inch and 3.5-inch SATA and SAS drives offer highest performance options for optimizing storage and data management with effectiveness for IBM System x Summary of all IBM announcements for today * Announcement Summary - March 6, 2012 HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: Bob Shannon bshan...@rocketsoftware.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2012 4:56:50 AM Subject: Re: IBM Announcement Letters I received an announcement letter this morning, but it was almost content free. Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Customer Service, the good and the bad...
Hi Scott, Yeah, and guess who usually buys Western Digital almost exclusively. :))) One more that was equally good, but not IT related. Long ago, I used to manage an apartment complex. Tough job, you can never really go home from work. Anyway, two brothers owned the complex and I got a monthly paycheck signed by one of them. Unknown to me, they transferred ownership of the apartment complex to a corporation they owned jointly. End of the month, I get my monthly paycheck, deposit it, mail the monthly bills, buy groceries . A couple of days later, I get a call from my bank. My paycheck didn't go through - both brother's signatures now required, check just had the one. Could have been a disaster of bank charges. First Interstate let me come pick up the check, get the signature, and take it back to the bank the next day. No fees, no bounced checks, they just held the checks in processing. I sure wish First Interstate hadn't folded. Anyway, the way I look at, stuff happens. People make mistakes. Do something wrong or fail to do something right. It's what they do about it that counts. It also counts a LOT when they care and when they make it right without a bunch of wrangling about it. It's also important, IMHO to tell folks what a good job they've done - whe n they do a good job. And tell their boss. I am sure that most bosses only hear the bad stuff. That's the wrong thing for customers to only say something about the bad stuff. My Mom used to ask to see the manager. Folks always asked what the problem was, looked worried or fearful. I was in Fry's a couple of weeks ago, buying my new 3TB Western Digital drive. I received exemplary service from one of the guys on the floor, so I said nice things about him to his boss. Could have knocked that boss over with a feather, and that's a real shame. Linda - Original Message - From: Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2012 10:25:27 PM Subject: Re: Customer Service, the good and the bad... Linda, Wow...think that's great Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Mar 5, 2012, at 1:14 AM, Linda Mooney linda.lst...@comcast.net wrote: Greetings! This happened to me a good while back, but it's worth remembering. I had a Western Digital PC hard drive fail three weeks before its warranty ran out. They replaced the drive, no problem, and with a larger capacity drive because the drive I had was no longer being made. This is where it gets really special - I get the drive in , it works fine, so I start the restore from my tape backup, and the tape drive EATS the tape. That tape backup had never given any problems before. Called Western Digital to see if they could do something. The old drive had a large bid on it that was due to be released a week or so later. They fixed the drive motor on the drive, overnighted it back to me, no charge. All they asked was that I send the old drive back to them again after copying my data off. They even included a postage paid label for that. All I did was to call them, explain the problem nicely and ask if there was there anything they could do for me. Linda - Original Message - From: Gabe Goldberg g...@gabegold.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2012 1:54:14 PM Subject: Re: Customer Service, the good and the bad... Long ago, a friend had an IBM PS/2. The monitor failed. Being a mainframer, she called hardware support -- the same number she'd call for a broken mainframe. IBM promptly dispatched a CE to her house; he replaced the monitor, cleaned up any mess, and departed in his unmarked white van. More recently, article I wrote about complaining -- mostly good news but some failures: http://archive.slickdeals.net/f/1979348-Creative-Griping-Makes-Friends-and-Brings-Rewards And other interesting articles... The Very Picky Customer http://boss.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/07/27/the-very-picky-customer/ What Satisfying Picky Customers Can Mean to a Business http://boss.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/08/18/the-critical-5-percent-of-customers/ Five ways your customers say they are unhappy www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/30/crm_customer_satisfaction/ PeopleClaim: Taking Complaints Public Via the Web bucks.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/05/25/peopleclaim-taking-complaints-public-via-the-web/?nl=your-moneyemc=your-moneyema4 Bottom line, complaining wins MUCH more often than not, and keeping quiet NEVER wins... Robert Prins said: I hope this doesn't offend anyone, but here's a short story about customer service... -- Gabriel Goldberg, Computers and Publishing, Inc. g...@gabegold.com 3401 Silver Maple Place, Falls Church, VA 22042 (703) 204-0433 LinkedIn: http
Re: Customer Service, the good and the bad...
Greetings! This happened to me a good while back, but it's worth remembering. I had a Western Digital PC hard drive fail three weeks before its warranty ran out. They replaced the drive, no problem, and with a larger capacity drive because the drive I had was no longer being made. This is where it gets really special - I get the drive in , it works fine, so I start the restore from my tape backup, and the tape drive EATS the tape. That tape backup had never given any problems before. Called Western Digital to see if they could do something. The old drive had a large bid on it that was due to be released a week or so later. They fixed the drive motor on the drive, overnighted it back to me, no charge. All they asked was that I send the old drive back to them again after copying my data off. They even included a postage paid label for that. All I did was to call them, explain the problem nicely and ask if there was there anything they could do for me. Linda - Original Message - From: Gabe Goldberg g...@gabegold.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Sunday, March 4, 2012 1:54:14 PM Subject: Re: Customer Service, the good and the bad... Long ago, a friend had an IBM PS/2. The monitor failed. Being a mainframer, she called hardware support -- the same number she'd call for a broken mainframe. IBM promptly dispatched a CE to her house; he replaced the monitor, cleaned up any mess, and departed in his unmarked white van. More recently, article I wrote about complaining -- mostly good news but some failures: http://archive.slickdeals.net/f/1979348-Creative-Griping-Makes-Friends-and-Brings-Rewards And other interesting articles... The Very Picky Customer http://boss.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/07/27/the-very-picky-customer/ What Satisfying Picky Customers Can Mean to a Business http://boss.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/08/18/the-critical-5-percent-of-customers/ Five ways your customers say they are unhappy www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/30/crm_customer_satisfaction/ PeopleClaim: Taking Complaints Public Via the Web bucks.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/05/25/peopleclaim-taking-complaints-public-via-the-web/?nl=your-moneyemc=your-moneyema4 Bottom line, complaining wins MUCH more often than not, and keeping quiet NEVER wins... Robert Prins said: I hope this doesn't offend anyone, but here's a short story about customer service... -- Gabriel Goldberg, Computers and Publishing, Inc. g...@gabegold.com 3401 Silver Maple Place, Falls Church, VA 22042 (703) 204-0433 LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/gabegold Twitter: GabeG0 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: knockd on z/OS - Port Knocking
Hi Peter, Try searching for port knockd and also for port knockd site:IBM.com. Google has a bunch of hits. HTH. Linda Sent from my iPhone On Feb 28, 2012, at 2:41 PM, Peter Bishop peter.bis...@eds.com wrote: Hi, just curious for now, but we may soon need to do this for real. Has anyone got this running on z/OS? I did a quick archive search on knockd but drew a blank. I couldn't find much in the IBM sites either. thanks, Peter Bishop HP Australia -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Simple iinventory control products?
Greetings All, We had CICS for 12-15 years, and along with it several MacKinney products - Hot Print, Morning News and KwikKey. We don't have CICS anymore, and our MacKinney products are gone now too. The products worked well, and we did not have any support problems with MacKinney. HTH, Linda -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PRINT (NOCC for z/OS?
Hi Dave, I have been the installer of the LRS (Levi, Ray and Shoup) products in my shop since 1998. First of all, LRS support is excellent and I a m sure that they would be happy to assist you. DRS (Dynamic Report System) provides a virtual printer for a VTAM connection . DRS/IP provides the same for an IP connection. They can run as one started task - that's the way I run. Data coming in through DRS can be written to the JES spool, written to an MVS dataset, or written to a file under z/Unix. If written to JES2 (I don't have JES3), it can be set up for what ever is going to drive the actual print, or it can be picked up by a viwer. Lots of flexibility. You can even name AFP res ources if you want PSF to print to an AFP printer. Do you know where the x'40' is being added? It could be with LRSQ. B y default /binary is set to N. When set to Y, LRSQ is told not to translate a binary transmission. That is probably what you want try. (I do not have LRSQ here). If that stops the x'40' then that could be all you need. HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: Dave L - Eagan Hansen, MN dave.l.han...@usps.gov To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2012 11:26:16 AM Subject: Re: PRINT (NOCC for z/OS? Group, Our process is: LRSQ sends a binary PDF to DRS. DRS spools to a virtual printer. Now it sits in the spool with the x'40' on the left. The PDF is translated by the PDF viewer. However the PDF no longer starts with '%PDF-1.4'. That's how we get into this trouble. You can duplicate this using XMIT. By using XMIT I see the x'40', and appears to be real. I'm not sure about other ways to get things on the MVS spool. Like I said on VM I could PUNCH and IPL the reader. I'm just looking into a different way to get to the spool that won't put the x'40' in front OR a different type of spool file so when it gets there MVS leaves it untouched. Thank you, Dave Dave Hansen Eagan Software Systems Branch 651-406-1208 dave.l.han...@usps.gov -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2012 12:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: PRINT (NOCC for z/OS? On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 10:51:42 -0600, Bill Godfrey wrote: On Thu, 9 Feb 2012 08:55:00 -0600, Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN wrote: I remember the VM punch queue was limited to 80 bytes and didn't write out carriage control because you could IPL it. I imagine MVS also has these other spool types. I don't think the 80 byte record length will meet our wants. I had thought everything in the VM spool had carriage control (actually a CCW opcode). But I defer to your experience. Perhaps IPL is unaffected by the CCS opcode present in the spool. In the first response to your original post, Paul Gilmartin asked how you put stuff on the spool. If you explain how you are putting the PDF file on the spool, you might get some more help. I don't think PDF's have records, certainly not 132- or 133-byte records. So maybe you mean to say to are running a program that reads PDFs and writes text to the spool. But you are not saying so. Everything in CMS has records, but some processing, e.g. FTP BINARY STREAM, will ignore record boundaries. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Dedicated vs. Shared CPs
Hi GSG, Simply, if you dedicate some CP to a busy lpar, it can improve performance - if that is what the lpar needs. If you dedicate all that a lpar is likely to use at peak untilitzation, cp reaources are wasted when the lpar is not so busy. Many shops use a mix of shared and dedicated cp based on the needs and priorities of their specific workloads and hardware configurations . Before changing cp assignments, be sure that is what needs to be done. HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: gsg gsg_...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 11:25:48 AM Subject: Dedicated vs. Shared CPs I know you can define processors as dedicated or shared. Is there any advantages/disadvantages to dedicating some to specific LPARs and shared for others? TIA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PRINT (NOCC for z/OS?
Hi Dave, PRINT member (NOCC is a CMS command and it suppresses carriage control. http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zvm/v5r4/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.zvm.v54.dmsb4/hcsd8b3078.htm So, z/OS is not adding the carriage control, the command that you used to print on VM was suppressing it. HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: Dave L - Eagan Hansen, MN dave.l.han...@usps.gov To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 11:25:06 AM Subject: PRINT (NOCC for z/OS? Bonjour, When I worked on z/VM I could print without carriage control using PRINT member (NOCC. On JES2 when I put stuff out to the spool it's inserting a x'40' as the leading character. I tried XMIT and see the \INMR01, but again there is now a leading x'40'. How can I put something out to the MVS spool without having carriage control added? Thanks in advance, Dave Dave Hansen Eagan Software Systems Branch 651-406-1208 dave.l.han...@usps.gov -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PRINT (NOCC for z/OS?
Hi Gil, Yeah, it had been a long time since we even had a VM machine. That's why I included the link. ;) Linda - Original Message - From: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 1:29:40 PM Subject: Re: PRINT (NOCC for z/OS? On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 21:16:38 +, Linda Mooney wrote: PRINT member (NOCC is a CMS command and it suppresses carriage control. http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zvm/v5r4/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.zvm.v54.dmsb4/hcsd8b3078.htm So, z/OS is not adding the carriage control, the command that you used to print on VM was suppressing it. IIRC, it's almost the opposite -- with (NOCC) in effect, the print command adds a SPACE 1 command to each line. With (CC) it doesn't. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Simple iinventory control products?
Hi Peter, We use CA-PanValet. It offers check out, check in version control, backup process that includes version control, utilties that produce the what is called by what reports and the what is included in what reports. We use separate Pan libraries for source and for production control. HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: Peter x23353 Farley peter.far...@broadridge.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Monday, February 6, 2012 9:23:02 AM Subject: Simple iinventory control products? Hi All, I am being asked if there are relatively simple source-and-JCL inventory control products available for z/OS. I found one myself (XREF product at dcmsi.com), but management wants to know if any other software vendors provide such a product. We're not interested at the moment in full life cycle management products like Endeavor or ChangeMan. We just need a simple inventory control product that could answer interactive queries (E.G., What JCL uses this file? Where is this program used?) by programmers and technical support staff. TIA for any product or company names or links you can provide. Peter -- This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SHARE Atlanta March numbers
I resemble that! I always try to get the hotel reservations first. I frequently end up with SHARE onsite registration - it mostly depends on who pays for the trip. If it's me, it definitely last minute. :-) Linda - Original Message - From: Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 3:24:37 PM Subject: Re: SHARE Atlanta March numbers On 1/30/2012 1:12 PM, Charles Mills wrote: I am looking at an e-mail from SHARE HQ dated January 19 that says We have about 240 attendees registered so far. Hard for me to believe. Oh, I can believe that for sure. I'm the SHARE MVS Core Technologies Project Manager and even I haven't registered yet! IMHO, the best indicator of expected attendance are hotel reservations. People don't have to pay for those until they leave. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: ISPF Workstation Agent for Windows 7?
Hi Peter, Under Windows 7, I have had great success installing programs written for older Win OS versions by inst alling th ose programs with Compatibility Mode. It is part of Win7, and free. I often get an error message with install and/or first use, but so far, things just run. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Make-older-programs-run-in-this-version-of-Windows More info on this page, anlong with a warning about the types of programs that should not be run in compatibility mode. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Make-older-programs-run-in-this-version-of-Windows HTH YMMV, Linda - Original Message - From: Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4) peter.hunke...@credit-suisse.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 4:45:47 AM Subject: ISPF Workstation Agent for Windows 7? I've been asked if there is a way to see ISPF split sessions in parallel in multiple windows, and remembered the ISPF workstation agent WSA. I haven't looked into this for ages. The ISPF download panel only talks about Windows 2000/NT. Trying to run the downloaded file on Windows 7 ends with a message telling me not being compatible. The ISPF manual also only talks about Windows 2000/NT. So, it seems this feature has been functionally stabilized. Or am I missing something? -- Peter Hunkeler -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
COBOL Upgrade
Greetings! We are (finally) looking at the possibilities of moving up on COBOL from OS/VS with Report Writer and from COBOL II to the new COBOL 4.2 with Report Writer. I would like to hear from folks who have already made that journey, especially about any specific things that went well - or didn't. I'm thinking that there must be a COBOL list out there somewhere as well, maybe more than one. Can anyone tell me its address and the process to subscribe? Thanks, Linda -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: COBOL execs Dummy Question
Hi Jake, You might try this for of search on Google, and on www.dogpile.com IGYCRCTL site:ibm.com HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: Jake anderson justmainfra...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 7:48:36 PM Subject: COBOL execs Dummy Question Hello All, Apology in advance for posting a very basic or a stupid question but I am curious to know about the COBOL compiler Programes : IGYWCL and IGYCRCTL. I very well know that IGY stands for the language Prefix but Would like know what WCL or CRCTL stands for ? I tried Google to find some Basic History about this programs but I am unable to fetch any presentations or talk about these Programs in depth. Any information or direction would be much appreciated. Jake -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Going from mod-3 to mod9
Hi Dennis, We moved onto an mixed rack of mod 3 and mod 9 3390s on Hitachi disk. We do not have PAV (cost). C are was taken to place data so that performance would still be good. Our heavily hit datasets - database, online VSAM, etc. were keep on mod 3 . T hings like dlibs, res, and some large datasets, and a lot of datasets that have low usage patterns moved to mod 9. We have been fine. YMMV, Linda - Original Message - From: Dennis McCarthy dmcca...@electricinsurance.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 12:03:21 PM Subject: Going from mod-3 to mod9 A couple of questions: 1. We just had 3390-9's configured into our EMC box. This box also contains 3390-3's. Given that the hardware is the same throughout and all other things being equal, is there any decrease in response time on the mod-9's? 2. I have a VSAM file (with extended addressability) that currently spans 27 mod-3's. My plan is to move it to 10 mod-9's using IDCAMS REPRO to back it up then doing a DELETE/DEFINE, (changing the SPACE parameter from CYL(2500 150) to CYL(9500 150)), then REPRO from the backup. Am I setting myself up for a failure? Regards, Dennis -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: DFHSM: Backup tape lost due to errors
Hi A.Cecilio, You have already gotten some good replies that, in my opinion, should be followed. There are a couple of additional recommendations I would like to make. 1) You said that the cartridge is too damaged to read. How did it get damaged? It is important to find out because other cartridges may be at risk for the same damage, or may already be damaged and just not discovered yet. I f the root cause is not identified and corrected, you may end up with more damaged tapes. 2) If you are not able to read the tape, it m ight be possible for a recovery company to recover it and write the datasets, as many as they can recover, to new tapes, or to other media. Some years ago, on an old ATL/VTS that has since been replaced , one of the drives that wrote non-duplex data out of the VTS clobbered about a dozen tapes. At first, only one bad tape was obvious. We took the create drive and the last used drive out of service. Turned out it was the last used drive that did the damage. We were blessed that it wasn't the create drive. The recovery folks did get our data back. HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: af dc acbi...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 11:29:19 AM Subject: DFHSM: Backup tape lost due to errors Hello, suppose you have an 3592-JB dfhsm cart (native, not a vts stacked cart) that can't be read due to physical damage, no tape backup duplication. Several backups are unique, no additional versions. How to correct bcds ?? Run AUDIT DATASETCONTROLS (BACKUP) with NOFIX (to check the amount corrections) and then with FIX ??? Z/Os V1.12.?? Any hint is welcome. MAny thx, A.Cecilio -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit
Hi Scott, The very first mainframe I learned on (not paid, in school) was a Univac 90/70/D VS9. I don't remember what its specs were. I really liked that machine. There was a training program that ran on it called Lester. Any body remember Lester? Linda - Original Message - From: Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 1:11:54 PM Subject: Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit Omg, my dad was a fe on univacssmall world Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Jan 15, 2012, at 4:47 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In 905a.699bcad5.3c449...@aol.com, on 01/15/2012 at 04:05 PM, Ed Finnell efinnel...@aol.com said: Howz about 32K on an SS80? The UNIVAC SS80 and SS90 were decimal machines. Some not so good... UNIVAC 1005? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit
Hi Scott, Sounds like your Dad had quite a career. Did he have a favorite machine? This particular Univac had a tough beginning. It was too heavy for the elevator, so they rigged up some plywood and planned to slide it down the stairs. I wasn't there for the big event, but I saw the evidence. They didn't even add support under the plywood, so when they started it down the stairs, the leading wheels when through, the machine tipped over, slid down the plywood to the bottom of the stairs and slammed into the concrete wall hard enough to take a divot out of it. It must have been quite a fea t to get it righted and into the machine room after that. Ever after, it would occassionaly post a page fault on (dev) message to the console and lock up. When that would happen, we would go over to the machine, open the door and give it just a little boot in the right place. About 80% of the time, it would pick right up and go on. Rest of the time it would crash, and I would get to IPL. :)) It had core memory and a bootstrap tape. Only machine I ever worked with that had that . The Univac taught me a lot. Linda - Original Message - From: Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 6:24:23 PM Subject: Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit Linda, Wow I remember a lot my dad worked on but no the 90, been awhile, he retired working at ft Harrison in Indianapolis on univac 1100s. Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Jan 16, 2012, at 8:26 PM, Linda Mooney linda.lst...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Scott, The very first mainframe I learned on (not paid, in school) was a Univac 90/70/D VS9. I don't remember what its specs were. I really liked that machine. There was a training program that ran on it called Lester. Any body remember Lester? Linda - Original Message - From: Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 1:11:54 PM Subject: Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit Omg, my dad was a fe on univacssmall world Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Jan 15, 2012, at 4:47 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In 905a.699bcad5.3c449...@aol.com, on 01/15/2012 at 04:05 PM, Ed Finnell efinnel...@aol.com said: Howz about 32K on an SS80? The UNIVAC SS80 and SS90 were decimal machines. Some not so good... UNIVAC 1005? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit
Greetings All! Found this article on the BBC today. IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16543497 Linda -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit
Hi John and Ed, Yowsers! That's really tiny! Just in my career - The first machine I was paid to work with was a 4341 with 8MB and 8 channels. My IPhone has 32MB. The possibilities of 2.5 Petabytes is, well, an awful lot. I can't help but wonder what some of the early computing pioneers would think of this. Linda - Original Message - From: John P. Baker hfdte...@comporium.net To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 8:08:48 PM Subject: Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit Linda, What is interesting about this development is that according to Dr. Loth, by increasing the number of atoms from 12 to perhaps 200 it may be possible to make the storage technology stable at room temperatures. AFAIK, the highest density RDIMM storage currently available provides 16 GB per module. This technology could theoretically push that to 128 TB per module. The largest motherboard memory capacity I have seen is 288 GB (18 RDIMMs of 16 GB each). In a few years, this technology could permit the production of computers have a storage capacity as high as 2.5 Petabytes (2.5 x 10^15 bytes). John P. Baker -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Linda Mooney Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 9:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit Greetings All! Found this article on the BBC today. IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16543497 Linda -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit
Hi zMan, Ah, well, whatz a couple of typpos among firends? :) Linda - Original Message - From: zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 9:13:24 PM Subject: Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Linda Mooney linda.lst...@comcast.net wrote: Hi John and Ed, Yowsers! That's really tiny! Just in my career - The first machine I was paid to work with was a 4341 with 8MB and 8 channels. My IPhone has 32MB. The possibilities of 2.5 Petabytes is, well, an awful lot. I can't help but wonder what some of the early computing pioneers would think of this. I suspect your iPhone has 32GB, not MB... And let's not start swapping You had 8MB? We had 5 bytes...and we LOVED it! stories, eh? Related, however: this could make a reality something I read a while ago suggestion that memory would soon be cheap enough that we could have HD video of our surroundings recording constantly. This could/would change things a fair bit, both good and bad. -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: EZTrieve
If you have Vanguard (RACF reporter ), you can have it report to you every touch of the dataset(s) you want monitored. I am using it now to monitor the batch and online use of a couple of datasets belonging to a product that we are not going to be able to renew. If you don't have Vanguard, your security folks should be able to monitor (audit) the key product datasets for you. HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: gsg gsg_...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 2:10:18 PM Subject: Re: EZTrieve Thanks everyone. I did a scan for EZT in both my JCL and PROC libraries and came up with a list. I also did a scan in Endevor for type EZ* and it produce a big list also. This is probably as close as I'll get to a complete list. Thanks again. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: cpu / machine identification
Hi Brian, /snip I received an email between my last response and this one that said (a lot of things, but basically) that many sites (the grater percentage) don't know what they pay for their software because a) it's done by another department or their boss, or b) they only think about it when they first license the product and don't think about the cost involved until they either run low on budget and are trying to save some amount or they have a problem that makes them unhappy with the product that they are currently paying for. Is that true across the board with you people? /esnip All invoices have to be routed to our Accounts Payable folks to get paid here. In good budget times, and at the very last minute usually g, the Accounts Payable folks would ask the technical contact (the sysprog) if the software was still being used and if there were any changes planned. Then the invoice would get paid. Vendors generally would NOT send an info copy of the invoice to the sysprog or a reminder of renewal time. :-( Now that we are in our 4th year of very bad budget (layoffs and LOTS of cuts) a senior sysprog has to justo every single piece of software that is billed, regardless of how much it costs. Tucked in behind the existing process, a justo for each and every product has to be written and approved up the line before the invoice can be paid. This can cause a lot of delay in getting the bill paid. My experience with having to write justos and try to keep keys up to date, is that if the vendor will email a renewal notice with a courtesy copy of the invoice to the senior sysprog (listed technical contact) - and ALSO send the invoice directly to Accounts Payable, payments have a much better chance of happening on time - without the need for temporary keys or extra stress. Linda - Original Message - From: Brian Westerman brian_wester...@syzygyinc.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2011 6:42:29 PM Subject: Re: cpu / machine identification We have DR support in our software, but I was under the impression that most of the DR sites were running the OS under VM and they simulated the serial anyway. I suppose their are sites that do not run the DR under VM, but don't the sites who don't run under VM know the serial number ahead of time, and wouldn't it be already built into the software, or they have a already setup job to enter the new serial(s)? I know I would have it set up if it were me. This also has nothing to do with the question, but I have always thought that the vendor should be compensated for support of the DR testing anyway. (this will probably cause a lot of angry responses). It's a separate processor and the vendor has to support a problem that might occur on it just like they would if it were the primary processor, which may not have the issue. If that were the case, then the vendor has to support your DR test for free. Now if you are paying $50k for the software, it's probably a reasonable expectation, but if you are paying $2K to $5K it's not as reasonable. I received an email between my last response and this one that said (a lot of things, but basically) that many sites (the grater percentage) don't know what they pay for their software because a) it's done by another department or their boss, or b) they only think about it when they first license the product and don't think about the cost involved until they either run low on budget and are trying to save some amount or they have a problem that makes them unhappy with the product that they are currently paying for. Is that true across the board with you people? Brian On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 17:39:58 -0500, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote: ZMan I am pretty well versed in pc/unix/mf and learning Appleseed... Btw I wasn't a fan of CPU/serials because DR was such a pita without new product patches,etc for new CPUs.. Sent from my iPad On Dec 29, 2011, at 2:40 PM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote: As A vendor I understand the CPU/serial situation but one has to consider the less than honest customers and 'yes' I have experience that also Sent from my iPad ...points to the liabilities of communicating using mobile devices? :-) -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access
Re: Tapeless Solutions
Greetings to all who are interested in this presentation - First follow the link that Russell provided. http://proceedings.share.org/proceedings/ Select SHARE in Orlando, if it is not already selected. Then under the Code column, scroll down to 9969, where the Virtual Tape Replication Multi-Vendor Panel Discussion will be found. Click once to highlight. Then in the right pane, a description, a horizontal bar and 2 PDF icons will appear. Click on the bar and drag it upwards. Three more PDF icons will be revealed for a total of 5. Click each to open. On the SHARE proceedings page, if you search for virtual, there are a lot of sessions listed. Searching for virtual tape narrowed it down considerably for me. You can also search any of a bunch of different SHARE Conferences. My shop has been using the Bus-Tech solution with CA1 for several years now. We have used CA1 for well over 20 years. They work very well for us. We have also used an IBM 3494 ATL/VTS library with CA1. That worked very well too. I have not worked with other tape management software or other virtual tape equipment. These are only my opinions - YMMV. HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: Russell Witt res09...@verizon.net To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 5:09:31 PM Subject: Re: Tapeless Solutions Radoslaw, Sorry, the only link is to the SHARE web-site to lookup presentations. http://proceedings.share.org/proceedings/ The name of the presentation was 9969: Virtual Tape Replication Multi-Vendor Panel Discussion , so you should be able to find it by simply putting Virtual into the Title search and selecting presentation 9969. Russell -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 4:41 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Tapeless Solutions W dniu 2011-12-24 18:43, Russell Witt pisze: Not true at all. CA-Vtape can optionally use open system storage, but it is not required. If you want to go directly from MF DASD/CACHE to tape - that is an option. Still true. I wrote about MDL, Luminex, Interkom, NOT about Vtape. Actually, there was a presentation (panel-type) at the SHARE in Orlando where we had a short 7-minute presentation from each of 6 vendors. All of their presentations have also been uploaded to the SHARE web-site. So, if you are interested in a short over-view of half-a-dozen different Vtape offerings (with remote replication), you can go to the SHARE web-site. Do you have a link to he presentation? Russell Witt CA-1 L2 Support Manager -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 5:06 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Tapeless Solutions W dniu 2011-12-24 10:50, Tommy Tsui pisze: It seems the only choice for enterprise tapeless solution is only vsm or 7720, anyone will consider bustech or ca-tape software solution what is pros and cons Well, I never said that. BusTech MDL is also a choice, as well as Luminex product or Interkom one. Actually all of mentioned products are a PART of the solution, all of them need some open system (FBA) storage to store the data. Pros and cons - well, at least Luminex is not tied to given storage manufacturer (BusTech is part of EMC), so in this case you have wider choice of devices. Another issue is performance, scalability, remote copy, etc. Regards -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- Treść tej wiadomości może zawierać informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wyłącznie do użytku służbowego adresata. Odbiorcą może być jedynie jej adresat z wyłączeniem dostępu osób trzecich. Jeżeli nie jesteś adresatem niniejszej wiadomości lub pracownikiem upoważnionym do jej przekazania adresatowi, informujemy, że jej rozpowszechnianie, kopiowanie, rozprowadzanie lub inne działanie o podobnym charakterze jest prawnie zabronione i może być karalne. Jeżeli otrzymałeś tę wiadomość omyłkowo, prosimy niezwłocznie zawiadomić nadawcę wysyłając odpowiedź oraz trwale usunąć tę wiadomość włączając w to wszelkie jej kopie wydrukowane lub zapisane na dysku. This e-mail may contain legally privileged information of the Bank and is intended solely for business use of the addressee. This e-mail may only be received by the addressee and may not be disclosed to any third parties. If you are not the intended addressee of this e-mail or the employee authorised to forward it to the addressee, be advised that any dissemination, copying, distribution or any other similar
Re: 2 STC running on different GMT zones
Hi Yann, My shop uses IBM's Application Time Facility for z/OS. It used to be known as Isogon's TicToc. We have used it for many years. We have STCs in the same LPAR, some without ATF, some with, and for those with ATF, they often run different dates and times. I don't use the product myself, and I am not its installer, but if you have questions, I could ask them of the folks who install and use the product. The documentation for the product is here http://www-01.ibm.com/software/awdtools/tictoc/library/ HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: CUNY Yann yann.cuny.anta...@axa-tech.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 3:59:07 AM Subject: 2 STC running on different GMT zones Hi all, Here's my problem : We set up a scheduling LPAR to schedule all our production (Z/OS 1.11 - TWS 8.5). On this LPAR, we have many TWS instances (3 For France, 3 for the rest of the world). As you know, paris is on GMT+1. But we have to schedule some jobs for our Japan teams So, my question is : Is it possible to have 2 STC running with different GMT zones ? Regards, Yann Ce message est confidentiel; Son contenu ne represente en aucun cas un engagement de la part de AXA Technology Services (AXA Tech) sous reserve de tout accord conclu par ecrit entre vous et AXA Technology Services (AXA Tech).Toute publication, utilisation ou diffusion,meme partielle, doit etre autorisee prealablement. Si vous n'etes pas destinataire de ce message, merci d'en avertir immediatement l'expe- diteur. This message is confidential; its contents do not constitute a commitment by AXA Technology Services (AXA Tech) except where provi- ded for in a written agreement between you and AXA Technology Services (AXA Tech). Any unauthorised disclosure, use or dissemina- tion, either whole or partial, is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient of the message, please notify the sender imme- diately. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: 2 STC running on different GMT zones
Hi Gil, I am not sure if we have ever used ATF in TSO. I will ask. TSO is much less used here than in many shops. We use COM-PLETE from Software AG very heavily. It does work with ATF. One of our primary uses of the product is to test legislated changes that must be in place on a date and time certain. The ATF clock is set so that development can test as they need to and only the things that they need to have at set that date and time are affected. AFAIK, control cards are used to load in the specifics, but I will ask about that as well. Linda - Original Message - From: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 7:33:39 PM Subject: Re: 2 STC running on different GMT zones On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 02:41:51 +, Linda Mooney wrote: My shop uses IBM's Application Time Facility for z/OS. It used to be known as Isogon's TicToc. We have used it for many years. We have STCs in the same LPAR, some without ATF, some with, and for those with ATF, they often run different dates and times. I don't use the product myself, and I am not its installer, but if you have questions, I could ask them of the folks who install and use the product. The documentation for the product is here http://www-01.ibm.com/software/awdtools/tictoc/library/  Wherein I read: 1.1.7 The Virtual Clock Dataset (VCD) You indicate which jobs, users and applications are eligible to use a virtual date by specifying them in ATF's Virtual Clock Dataset (VCD). The default VCD that's created when the product is installed contains a single entry that enables all batch jobs (but not started tasks, TSO or IMS users or IMS applications) to use ATF via its JCL interface. You can explicitly specify virtual dates and times in VCD entries for your jobs. In this case, every time a defined job is run, it runs under the virtual date specified for the job in the VCD. If you sometimes want a job to run under a virtual clock and sometimes under the real date and time, you can set both the date and time fields to an asterisk (*) in the job's VCD entry. In this case, the job runs under the real date and time unless you specify a virtual date or time in the JCL of the job itself using ATF's JCL interface. 1.1.10 Absolute and relative dates and times ... Interesting. But does the VCD or, worse, various JCL members need to be updated semiannually for Daylight Time changes? (Actually more often because of political variations.) But I suppose the JCL INCLUDE and JCLLIB statements mitigate this significantly. What about TSO? Is there a LOGON PROC for each time zone you support? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: 2 STC running on different GMT zones
I forgot to memtion that we don't run any apps un z/OS UNIX, so I don't know if ATF works there. Linda - Original Message - From: Linda lstsrv linda.lst...@comcast.net To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 8:38:46 PM Subject: Re: 2 STC running on different GMT zones Hi Gil, I am not sure if we have ever used ATF in TSO. I will ask. TSO is much less used here than in many shops. We use COM-PLETE from Software AG very heavily. It does work with ATF. One of our primary uses of the product is to test legislated changes that must be in place on a date and time certain. The ATF clock is set so that development can test as they need to and only the things that they need to have at set that date and time are affected. AFAIK, control cards are used to load in the specifics, but I will ask about that as well. Linda - Original Message - From: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 7:33:39 PM Subject: Re: 2 STC running on different GMT zones On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 02:41:51 +, Linda Mooney wrote: My shop uses IBM's Application Time Facility for z/OS. It used to be known as Isogon's TicToc. We have used it for many years. We have STCs in the same LPAR, some without ATF, some with, and for those with ATF, they often run different dates and times. I don't use the product myself, and I am not its installer, but if you have questions, I could ask them of the folks who install and use the product. The documentation for the product is here http://www-01.ibm.com/software/awdtools/tictoc/library/  Wherein I read: 1.1.7 The Virtual Clock Dataset (VCD) You indicate which jobs, users and applications are eligible to use a virtual date by specifying them in ATF's Virtual Clock Dataset (VCD). The default VCD that's created when the product is installed contains a single entry that enables all batch jobs (but not started tasks, TSO or IMS users or IMS applications) to use ATF via its JCL interface. You can explicitly specify virtual dates and times in VCD entries for your jobs. In this case, every time a defined job is run, it runs under the virtual date specified for the job in the VCD. If you sometimes want a job to run under a virtual clock and sometimes under the real date and time, you can set both the date and time fields to an asterisk (*) in the job's VCD entry. In this case, the job runs under the real date and time unless you specify a virtual date or time in the JCL of the job itself using ATF's JCL interface. 1.1.10 Absolute and relative dates and times ... Interesting. But does the VCD or, worse, various JCL members need to be updated semiannually for Daylight Time changes? (Actually more often because of political variations.) But I suppose the JCL INCLUDE and JCLLIB statements mitigate this significantly. What about TSO? Is there a LOGON PROC for each time zone you support? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Tapeless Solutions
Hi George, If you want it to, it can 'do' CA1 - with the aid of CA Vtape. That will let you run all or part of your disk space as CA1 managed tape image. You can also back up those tape images to disk, or physical tape, or use replication to another site. HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: George Henke george.he...@hp.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 4:36:18 PM Subject: Re: Tapeless Solutions Does the DS8800 do tape management (CA-1)? I don't think so. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Vernooij, CP - SPLXM Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 4:54 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Tapeless Solutions Henke, George george.he...@hp.com wrote in message news:04b3da7b71b3ab408ca62ba6046bcf8f23d485b...@gvw0676exc.americas.hpq corp.net... Does anyone know of an IBM completely tapeless solution and what it might cost? I have heard of the TS7740, but it holds only 6 TB per draw. We have 750 TB on tape. Out of curiosity: why do you want the 750TB stored tapeless? Do you really want the data virtually on tape? What about a DS8800? Kees. For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Carts Created with RECFM=N
Hi Jim, I have never used RECFM=N, but in some SAS doc for statements under UNIX, I found this - RECFM=N binary format. The file consists of a stream of bytes with no record boundaries. If RECFM=N, the value for the LRECL= option must be at least 256. http://www.sfu.ca/sasdoc/sashtml/unixc/z1main.htm HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: Jim Marshall jim.marsh...@opm.gov To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 9:01:06 AM Subject: Carts Created with RECFM=N Doing a VTS migration and have run across some DSNs which were created with RECFM=N. We are using Tivoli Tape Optimzer software to do mass copies of files. It chokes on these RECFM=N files. IBM is telling us they do not support RECFM=N files and have no clue how these could be created. Tracked it back to the developer and he is puzzled at how these could have been created with RECFM=N. Has anyone ran across software products which might have outputed RECFM=N files. Any clues appreciated. jim -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM SR availability problems
Hi Sam, On the whole, my experience is that SR that it is much LESS available than ETR ever was. Just now, it took 11 minutes to get the IBM Service Request screen up. It's all grayed out though, I can't select or do anything. Regards. Linda - Original Message - From: Sam Knutson sknut...@geico.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:28:21 AM Subject: IBM SR availability problems We have seen recurring problems with SR yesterday and today hangs and HTTP 500 Internal Server Error. A ticked was put into the SR Helpdesk which is a completely unsatisfying fill out the form and pray experience. This is occurring for multiple users at multiple sites and no other web browsing or support sites are experiencing difficulties. IBMLink ETR is working fine and is our fallback. Consider that SR is supposed to be highly available and ETR is slated for sunset soon this is not reassuring. Is anyone else seeing problems with SR recently? Best Regards, Sam Knutson, GEICO System z Team Leader mailto:sknut...@geico.com mailto:sknut...@geico.com (office) 301.986.3574 (cell) 301.996.1318 Think big, act bold, start simple, grow fast... This email/fax message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution of this email/fax is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy all paper and electronic copies of the original message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: vdawkin
Hi Ed, What a drag. Since you have been hit so many times, I think that you should scan for key-loggers, if you have not done so already. For stronger passwords, pass phrases that include acronyms often work well. Microsoft, believe it or not, has a pretty decent password strength checker - https://www.microsoft.com/security/pc-security/password-checker.aspx?WT.mc_id=Site_Link HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2011 5:29:01 PM Subject: Re: vdawkin No, it was 6 character alpha and a 1 character numeric. They really did work at. It. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: vdawkin
Hi Ed, Google says they do. Seach on keylogger for mac. It turned up a bunch. There are also a good number of keylogger for mac removal listed, including this one from ehow that looks pretty good.. http://www.ehow.com/how_5008157_detect-keyloggers-mac.html I have used other articles from ehow.com and so far have not had any problems with them. The standard disclaimers do apply. ;) HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2011 6:54:34 PM Subject: Re: vdawkin They don#39;t make(key scanners) for macintosh. My latest password is so far away from anything I have tree so far that. It will take them a few months. If it happens again I will change the email. A dress to an unhackable one. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Possible impact of VTS on batch I/O times (also posted to IMS-L)
Hi Doug, We used to have a 3494 B20 VTS. You might want to see if the VTS was running reclamation during the time your job was running. HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: Doug Johnson doug.john...@bcbsks.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2011 11:44:50 AM Subject: Possible impact of VTS on batch I/O times (also posted to IMS-L) Listers, We’re trying to understand the elapsed times of a couple of batch IMS jobs that ran this past weekend. Both jobs used virtual tape (IBM 3494 B20) for log file processing and our Mainview for z/OS monitor attributed most of the elapsed time of each job to log file processing. One job was an IMS batch backout job (IMS utility DFSBBO00) and the other was an IMS Cobol database update job (DLI). Surprisingly (to us) it’s the output log file processing of each job that exhibited very long I/O response times in the monitor output. Blocking and buffering may not be as generous as they could be, but should be adequate. We want to understand what’s going on and see if we can improve processing performance or provide an alternative approach that will reduce job elapsed time. We've had the VTS system for some time but to my knowledge no one here has noticed or been made aware of this sort of behavior previously (which doesn't mean it hasn't happened before). Below is some monitor output showing virtual tape device behavior for both input and output log file processing in the batch backout job mentioned earlier. The job read the log file from a preceding update job on device 1057 and wrote its new log file on device 1064. We understand that backout processing using a real tape device might run very slowly due to processing the incoming log file data in reverse sequence. But we’re using virtual tape and the elapsed time appears to be attributed to the NEW (output) log file rather than the incoming (input) log file. Below is data from a couple of displays from our Mainview for z/OS monitor showing input and output virtual tape device device behavior during the time the backout job executed. We've been speculating that what we're seeing is somehow due to VTS configuration or the manner in which real tape is simulated or something of that sort. Any insights or suggestions concerning the high I/O response times we see would be greatly appreciated. This is data for the input log file for the 5-hour period from 06:30-11:30 on 04 Dec. I/O response time looks good. 07DEC2011 09:29:23 -- MAINVI CURR WIN === 1 ALT WIN === H1 =DEVINFO===ASYS=*04DEC2011==11:30=300M==MVMVS Volser. E06934 % Allocated 100.00 Avg Serv Time.. 4.80 Device Number.. 1057 % Utilized. 9.09 Avg IOSQ Time.. Type... 3490 % Active... 10.52 Avg Act Time... 4.80 LCU Number. 01C % Connected 8.96 Avg Conn Time.. 4.09 Status. RSV % Disconn.. 0.12 Avg Dsc Time... 0.05 Mount Status... PRV % Pending.. 1.44 Avg Pnd Time... 0.66 % Mount Pend... % Req Queued... Avg Con+Dis Tm. 4.14 SSCH/Sec... 21.92 % Dev Queued... Avg DPB Delay.. N/A Total SSCH. 19729 % Q+CPU Wait... Avg CUB Delay.. N/A % In Use... 9.25 % Efficiency... 100.00 Avg DvB Delay.. % Delaying. I/O Concurrency 0.09 % Reserved. Curr DS open... Init Cmd Res Tm % Resv Shr. Avg DS open Avg Q Depth % Error Rec Max Q Depth This is data for the output log file for the 5-hour period from 06:30-11:30 on 04 Dec. I/O response time is very high and nearly all of it is disconnect time. 07DEC2011 08:29:20 -- MAINV: CURR WIN === 1 ALT WIN === H1 =DEVINFO===ASYS=*04DEC2011==11:30=300M==MVMVS===: Volser. E55687 % Allocated 100.00 Avg Serv Time.. 844.27: Device Number.. 1064 % Utilized. 90.08 Avg IOSQ Time.. Type... 3490 % Active... 90.10 Avg Act Time... 844: LCU Number. 01D % Connected 1.30 Avg Conn Time.. 12.16: Status. RSV % Disconn.. 88.73 Avg Dsc Time... 831: Mount Status... PRV % Pending.. 0.07 Avg Pnd Time... 0.67: % Mount Pend... % Req Queued... Avg Con+Dis Tm. 843.59: SSCH/Sec... 1.07 % Dev Queued... Avg DPB Delay.. N/A: Total SSCH. 961 % Q+CPU Wait... Avg CUB Delay.. N
Re: RSU Unzip
Hi Saurabh, First, there are a number of people on this list who have been trying to help you with your SMP/e problem. When you don't post the error meessages in detail for each job, along with the sysin , it makes it very difficult for us to see what is going on and to try to help you. Also, all multi-volume HFS or zFS files must be SMS controlled. This is an easy one to forget and if you do forget it, you will not be able to use space past the first volume. I have my /temp sized for normal use in my shop. I don't use /temp for SMP/e work unless it is really small . Instead, I have a multi-volume SMPWKDIR defined, on SMS controlled volumes. In the SMP/e JCL, at the SMPWKDIR DD, I coded like this - //SMPWKDIR DD PATHDISP=KEEP, //*PATH='/tmp' -- I commented this out // PATH='/the /path /you/want/ SMPWKDIR' I added this I generally run it in the job this way because many of the install jobs come coded to use /temp and I find it easier to just update the job. It could be done in the DD DEF instead. HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: saurabh khandelwal sourabhkhandelwal...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 7:44:57 PM Subject: Re: RSU Unzip Thanks all of you. I tried using SMPWKDIR also but this time also UNZIP program got failed with space issue. Looks like I will have to mount new temp file system with bigger size. My RSU size is approx 4.6 GB. So how much space should I allocate for temp file system, which can accmodate temp files while doing unzip. Regards Saurabh On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 3:55 AM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.comwrote: On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 12:51:31 -0800, Ed Gould wrote: I read Kurt#39;s response and found it helpful. Where'd he say that? I missed it. Kurt isn't posting to the newsgroup rather than the LISTSERV nowadays, is he? As a followup to poor sysprogs in the future, it might be helpful if IBM as an option to print out the space so there is no guessing and wasted time. Kurt says it knows what is needed so why not let the op know? There's roughly enough information in the originalsize attributes of the ARCHDEF tags in the GIMPAF.XML files to do this. (But the GIMPAF.XML needs to be downloaded first.) Someone might write a utility (I'm not volunteering) to parse GIMPAF.XML and estimate space requirements. A fancier version might even examine the JCL and see whether the data sets specified are large enough (subject to change before GIMUNZIP runs.) CBTTAPE candidate? Surely better than job to observe how long it takes it to fail. PC installers do this sort of thing routinely -- they tell you that you haven't enough disk space before attempting installation. -- gil Gil, The response was given to sourabh back in Jul 2011 when he had the same issue with z/OS V1.10 RSU install Here is the beginning of that thread: http://www.mail-archive.com/ibm-main@bama.ua.edu/msg137931.html Re: RSU on z/OS 1.10 Kurt Quackenbush Wed, 06 Jul 2011 05:10:05 -0700 /bin/pax -zvrf /u/zos110/rsu1104/SMPPTFIN/S0001.SHOPZ.S5373846.SMPMCS.pax.Z ./GIMFAF.XML ./SMPPTFIN pax: FSUM6260 write error on file ./SMPPTFIN: EDC5133I No space left on device This message indicates the out of space occurred in the UNIX file system, not in the sequential data set that will eventually contain the unzipped MCS. Either specify the SMPWKDIR DD statement pointing to a directory in a UNIX file system that has plenty of free space, or ensure the file system that contains /u/zos110/rsu1104/ has plenty of free space. Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, SMP/E Development Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Thanks Regards Saurabh Khandelwal -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RSU Unzip
Hi Saurabh, You will have to either increase the amount of /temp space OR point SMPWKDIR to another filesystem that has plenty of room. That is what I was trying to show in my JCL example - //SMPWKDIR DD PATHDISP=KEEP, //*PATH='/tmp' -- I commented this out -- this was the original line // PATH='/the/path/you/want/SMPWKDIR' I added this Did you check to be very sure that your HFS or zFS is SMS managed? If needs more than 1 volume it has to be SMS managed. HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: saurabh khandelwal sourabhkhandelwal...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 9:41:15 PM Subject: Re: RSU Unzip Hello Linda, Thanks for reply. in my previous reply , I tried explaining the steps which I followed to solve this. I have added SMPWKDIR in my unzip JCL with temp path. Still I have space issue there, So now I am creating bigger HFS file system which will have plenty of free space, which can be used for UNZIP temporary file system. I will keep you updated with my progress. Thanks again. Regards Saurabh On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Linda Mooney linda.lst...@comcast.netwrote: Hi Saurabh, First, there are a number of people on this list who have been trying to help you with your SMP/e problem. When you don't post the error meessages in detail for each job, along with the sysin , it makes it very difficult for us to see what is going on and to try to help you. Also, all multi-volume HFS or zFS files must be SMS controlled. This is an easy one to forget and if you do forget it, you will not be able to use space past the first volume. I have my /temp sized for normal use in my shop. I don't use /temp for SMP/e work unless it is really small . Instead, I have a multi-volume SMPWKDIR defined, on SMS controlled volumes. In the SMP/e JCL, at the SMPWKDIR DD, I coded like this - //SMPWKDIR DD PATHDISP=KEEP, //*PATH='/tmp' -- I commented this out // PATH='/the/path /you/want/ SMPWKDIR' I added this I generally run it in the job this way because many of the install jobs come coded to use /temp and I find it easier to just update the job. It could be done in the DD DEF instead. HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: saurabh khandelwal sourabhkhandelwal...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 7:44:57 PM Subject: Re: RSU Unzip Thanks all of you. I tried using SMPWKDIR also but this time also UNZIP program got failed with space issue. Looks like I will have to mount new temp file system with bigger size. My RSU size is approx 4.6 GB. So how much space should I allocate for temp file system, which can accmodate temp files while doing unzip. Regards Saurabh On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 3:55 AM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote: On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 12:51:31 -0800, Ed Gould wrote: I read Kurt#39;s response and found it helpful. Where'd he say that? I missed it. Kurt isn't posting to the newsgroup rather than the LISTSERV nowadays, is he? As a followup to poor sysprogs in the future, it might be helpful if IBM as an option to print out the space so there is no guessing and wasted time. Kurt says it knows what is needed so why not let the op know? There's roughly enough information in the originalsize attributes of the ARCHDEF tags in the GIMPAF.XML files to do this. (But the GIMPAF.XML needs to be downloaded first.) Someone might write a utility (I'm not volunteering) to parse GIMPAF.XML and estimate space requirements. A fancier version might even examine the JCL and see whether the data sets specified are large enough (subject to change before GIMUNZIP runs.) CBTTAPE candidate? Surely better than job to observe how long it takes it to fail. PC installers do this sort of thing routinely -- they tell you that you haven't enough disk space before attempting installation. -- gil Gil, The response was given to sourabh back in Jul 2011 when he had the same issue with z/OS V1.10 RSU install Here is the beginning of that thread: http://www.mail-archive.com/ibm-main@bama.ua.edu/msg137931.html Re: RSU on z/OS 1.10 Kurt Quackenbush Wed, 06 Jul 2011 05:10:05 -0700 /bin/pax -zvrf /u/zos110/rsu1104/SMPPTFIN/S0001.SHOPZ.S5373846.SMPMCS.pax.Z ./GIMFAF.XML ./SMPPTFIN pax: FSUM6260 write error on file ./SMPPTFIN: EDC5133I No space left on device This message indicates the out of space occurred in the UNIX file system, not in the sequential data set that will eventually
Re: Terminology
Hi Steve, That's a great site! I'll keep that bookmarked. Thanks, Linda - Original Message - From: Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 9:43:42 AM Subject: Re: Terminology On 11/22/2011 10:30 AM, Linda Mooney wrote: Greetings! snip--- The mark over the 'a' in 'ä' is, for example, called a diaresis in English and an umlaut in German. /snip--- Even in my English class it was called an umlaut, but that is the only one of the marks (is that the proper term?) that I recognize. I have been following this thread and I can see that there are many more marks than I have ever been aware of. Somebody's (maybe everybody's) email editor is probably playing tricks as the same marks, including those forwarded, are not shown consistently in my inbox. Can anyone offer a link with these marks that includes something about them, and hopefully audible enunciation? I did check Google, and found listings for en.wiktionary.org and www.tfode.com , but are there better references? Thanks, Linda David Bond of Tachyon Software has some great pages on this. For what you're asking about, check out: http://www.tachyonsoft.com/uc.htm#U00C4 - Original Message - From: John Gilmorejohnwgilmore0...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 9:02:05 AM Subject: Re: Terminology The ‘inverted circumflex’, as in ‘ă’, is in fact more like a lower semicircle than an inversion of the circumflex in ‘â’. It occur alone and in combination with other marks, as in ‘ặ ’, ‘ắ’, and ‘ẵ’. Linguists writing in English, in which it does not occur, sometimes call it a cup. In the languages in which it is actually used it has other names, different in each language. This is to be expected. The mark over the 'a' in 'ä' is, for example, called a diaresis in English and an umlaut in German. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-355-2752 http://www.trainersfriend.com * To get a good Return on your Investment, first make an investment! + Training your people is an excellent investment * Try our tool for calculating your Return On Investment for training dollars at http://www.trainersfriend.com/ROI/roi.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMPE Help Needed
Hi Larry, In the messages you posted, I can see that the package was staged to the SMPNTS, but I do not see any messages from unpacking the files in the SMPNTS and receiving PTFs into the SMPPTS. That subsequent step unpax (GIMUNZIP) the service and moves it into the SMPPTS. HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: Larry Martin ldmar...@co.pg.md.us To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 7:20:19 AM Subject: Re: SMPE Help Needed In response to the reply: I show the PTF (US60411) both Received and Applied. There were no other messages before the No SYSMODS APPLY. See below: GIM66400I THE TRANSFER IS COMPLETE FOR FILE /smpe/U01031667/GIMPAF.XML. GIM66400I THE TRANSFER IS COMPLETE FOR FILE /smpe/U01031667/SMPPTFIN/S0001.SHOPZ.S5610244.SMPMCS.pax.Z. GIM66400I THE TRANSFER IS COMPLETE FOR FILE /smpe/U01031667/SMPHOLD/S0002.SHOPZ.S5610244.SMPHOLD.pax.Z. GIM66400I THE TRANSFER IS COMPLETE FOR FILE /smpe/U01031667/GIMPAF.XSL. GIM47600I PACKAGE U01031667 WAS SUCCESSFULLY STAGED TO THE SMPNTS. GIM24801W NO SYSMODS SATISFIED THE OPERANDS SPECIFIED ON THE RECEIVE COMMAND. GIM20501I RECEIVE PROCESSING IS COMPLETE. THE HIGHEST RETURN CODE WAS 04. GIM20502I SMP/E PROCESSING IS COMPLETE. THE HIGHEST RETURN CODE WAS 04. SMP/E IS AT LEVEL 35.45. And yes it was one of the four PTFs ordered. I browsed the SMPPTS file(s) and it is NOT there. It should not have been removed without an Accept.(?) Thanks, ..Larry -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Terminology
Greetings! snip--- The mark over the 'a' in 'ä' is, for example, called a diaresis in English and an umlaut in German. /snip--- Even in my English class it was called an umlaut, but that is the only one of the marks (is that the proper term?) that I recognize. I have been following this thread and I can see that there are many more marks than I have ever been aware of. Somebody's (maybe everybody's) email editor is probably playing tricks as the same marks, including those forwarded, are not shown consistently in my inbox. Can anyone offer a link with these marks that includes something about them, and hopefully audible enunciation? I did check Google, and found listings for en.wiktionary.org and www.tfode.com , but are there better references? Thanks, Linda - Original Message - From: John Gilmore johnwgilmore0...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 9:02:05 AM Subject: Re: Terminology The ‘inverted circumflex’, as in ‘ă’, is in fact more like a lower semicircle than an inversion of the circumflex in ‘â’. It occur alone and in combination with other marks, as in ‘ặ ’, ‘ắ’, and ‘ẵ’. Linguists writing in English, in which it does not occur, sometimes call it a cup. In the languages in which it is actually used it has other names, different in each language. This is to be expected. The mark over the 'a' in 'ä' is, for example, called a diaresis in English and an umlaut in German. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Terminology
Hi John, Nothing beats an accomplished and/or native speaker. Still, the 'sound bites' are usually better than the native English speaker's attempt at figuring out how things should sound. :) Some years ago I had the great opportunity to spend 2 years living in Germany and traveling about a bit. All I had to lean on at the beginning was a Berlitz Traveler's German book. I found its most useful feature was the phonetic spelling for an English speaker of the German words and phrases. It helped me get started and rescued me several times until I learned more of the language. I am not fluent, but I still regularly listen to German and Austrian radio over the net and visit some websites in German. I inquired of our buddy Google as regards the International Phonetic Alphabet, which led me to http://www.omniglot.com/writing/ipa.htm interesting site. Thanks, Linda - Original Message - From: John Gilmore johnwgilmore0...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 12:08:55 PM Subject: Re: Terminology Linda Mooney wrote: | Can anyone offer a link with these marks that includes something about them, and | hopefully audible enunciation? Sound bites are useful, but mastery of the linguists' International Phonetic Alphabetic is what you should shoot for first. The marks can be deceptive. Pronunciation of the Hungarian name 'Béla Bartók' is subtly different from that suggested by anglophone associations with these marks, which are usually based on some knowledge of their use in French. These associations are better than what is suggested to most anglophones by just 'Bela Bartok', but they don't yield a good result. In other cases, one must just learn a little. Polish is not, for example, difficult to pronounce once one has done so. Without that little, it appears to an anglophone to be a thicket of consonants. Łukasiewicz==Woo-kaze-yevitch is not intuitively obvious to anglophones, but once you learn it you can stop using the copout term 'Polish notation'. (My own spoken Polish consists of very simple declararative sentences punctuated by 15-second pauses used to construct the next one, but I can read and pronounce it.) Now for a commercial. The use of these marks in other languages is one of the more powerful arguments for converting our systems to Unicode, which makes them available, John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Terminology
Hi Shmuel, Thanks, I appreciate the info and the links. Linda - Original Message - From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 2:06:53 PM Subject: Re: Terminology In 143900959.130026.1321983016994.javamail.r...@sz0042a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net, on 11/22/2011 at 05:30 PM, Linda Mooney linda.lst...@comcast.net said: Even in my English class it was called an umlaut, The accent in, e.g., Jütte, is an umlaut. The diacritical mark in, e.g., naïve, is a diaresis[2]. Somebody's (maybe everybody's) email editor is probably playing tricks Correct transmission of anything but ASCII require three header fields, e.g., Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umlaut; it's a special case of a diaresis [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diaeresis_(diacritic) -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Terminology
Hi Bill, Yes, that was indeed and abundant reference! Thanks, Linda - Original Message - From: Bill Fairchild bfairch...@rocketsoftware.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 9:45:19 AM Subject: Re: Terminology Look up diacritic in Wikipedia and be prepared to drink from the fire hydrant of knowledge on scores of different marks used in hundreds of human writing systems. Bill Fairchild -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Linda Mooney Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 11:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Terminology Greetings! snip--- The mark over the 'a' in 'ä' is, for example, called a diaresis in English and an umlaut in German. /snip--- Even in my English class it was called an umlaut, but that is the only one of the marks (is that the proper term?) that I recognize. I have been following this thread and I can see that there are many more marks than I have ever been aware of. Somebody's (maybe everybody's) email editor is probably playing tricks as the same marks, including those forwarded, are not shown consistently in my inbox. Can anyone offer a link with these marks that includes something about them, and hopefully audible enunciation? I did check Google, and found listings for en.wiktionary.org and www.tfode.com , but are there better references? Thanks, Linda - Original Message - From: John Gilmore johnwgilmore0...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 9:02:05 AM Subject: Re: Terminology The ‘inverted circumflex’, as in ‘ă’, is in fact more like a lower semicircle than an inversion of the circumflex in ‘â’. It occur alone and in combination with other marks, as in ‘ặ ’, ‘ắ’, and ‘ẵ’. Linguists writing in English, in which it does not occur, sometimes call it a cup. In the languages in which it is actually used it has other names, different in each language. This is to be expected. The mark over the 'a' in 'ä' is, for example, called a diaresis in English and an umlaut in German. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Bustech Virtual Tape Appliance
Hi Steve, Not to worry, and thanks, especially for posting what worked for you. Thanks, Linda - Original Message - From: Steve Dover steve.do...@ccbcc.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 12:01:12 PM Subject: Re: Bustech Virtual Tape Appliance Linda Mooney, please forgive me. Linda was also a lot of help for me on this. Steve On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 10:34:39 -0600, Steve Dover steve.do...@ccbcc.com wrote: As it has been mentioned before, sometimes resolutions don't get posted. Thanks to Frank Bonaduce, Norbert Friemel, Jonathan Goossen and Chip Grantham for all of their help (and everyone else as well). It was indeed the IGXMSGEX exit, which drives the request sent to the tape drive display. Apparently the Bus-Tech MDL device intercepts this message. CA-1 has an exit (supplied in member SMP3480) that talks about this, but it did not make sense to me what it was for. So you have to set up tape pools in CA-1, install this exit so it relinks IGX00030 in SYS1.LPALIB, add the correct volser ranges to the MDL and everything works just like it is supposed to. Thanks again for the help. Steve On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 13:19:19 -0600, Steve Dover steve.do...@ccbcc.com wrote: We have recently purchased an EMC/Bustech MDL 1000 virtual tape appliance, backed by EMC/Data Domain DD670 open systems storage appliance. We are going to migrate from a tape based DR recovery plan to data replication to a hot site. We are going to remove all mainframe tape from our footprint. We (read management) did not purchase any services for this and have thrown me under the bus. I have to convert our tape processing from real tape to virtual tape. OK, that part is already done. The hard part, which is the bus part, is splitting our tape data into classes (at least it is hard for me). Bustech says we can have 'scratch synonyms' for our tape mounts, so the data can be written onto the Data Domain in different folders, where can control replication. This will allow us to replicate our DR tapes, but not worry about the local, non-offsite tapes. As far as I can tell, I need our z/OS system to ask for something besides a PRIVAT or SCRTCH tape. And please don't t! ell me to RFM, I have read about 10 so far to no avail. But if you can't point me to a manual that will help me, I will be forever in your debt. Thanks, Steve -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMFPRMxx ACTIVE/NOACTIVE parameter and SMF exit IEFACTRT
HI Dave, A little futher down in the same member look at the SYS parm. You can code TYPE or NOTYPE. You might try coding it this way, along with any other parms you need. SYS(NOTYPE(0:255),EXITS(xyz) etc... HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: Dave Day david...@consolidated.net To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2011 3:30:25 PM Subject: SMFPRMxx ACTIVE/NOACTIVE parameter and SMF exit IEFACTRT Is this supposed to work this way? I've just spent a bit of time in the Init Tuning Reference, and nothing in there indicates what I'm seeing. On a z/OS 1.12 system, if the SMFPRM member has NOACTIVE set, my IEFACTRT exit is not invoked. When I set it to ACTIVE, it is. Only change I make in the SMFPRM member. If I do a D PROG,EXIT,EN=SYS.IEFACTRT my exit shows up and is marked as active, no matter which SMFPRM setting I am using for ACTIVE/NOACTIVE. However, only when the member is set to record with ACTIVE does my SMF exit get called. Is this working as designed? Anybody know? What I wanted to do was to turn off recording of SMF records, but still use the exits to communicate to my server address space. The exits are installed programatically using the dynamic exits facility, if that makes any difference. --Dave -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: QUESTION ABOUT COPY COMMAND - DFDSS
Hi John, The REFVTOC subcommand is a refresh so that the additional space on the volume will be 'seen' and datasets can be stored in it. If the VTOC, INDEX, and VVDS are already large enough, then the same would be fine. http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r11/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.zos.r11.ickug00/refmin.htm After expanding a volume size using dynamic volume expansion, you must use the REFORMAT command to rebuild the VTOC and Index structures to accommodate the additional space on the volume. DEVMAN can also be used. Follow the link, there is more info on the page. I didn't specify a VTOC, INDEX, or VVDS size because that really depends on the number and type of datasets you put on the volume. If you are simply moving existing volumes from 3390/3 to 3390/9, you might want to size at 3 times larger all around. Also consider that it might be easier to init the volume with the appropriate size VTOC, INDEX, and VTOC first and then move data. If the VTOC or the VVDS are too small, allocations will stop when either is full. If the INDEX is too small, it will be diabled. I cannot offer any suggestions about DSS options - I use CA-Disk and FDR. HTH Linda - Original Message - From: John Dawes jhn_da...@yahoo.com.au To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2011 11:43:28 AM Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT COPY COMMAND - DFDSS Linda, Thanks for the feedback. Yes, I did have a note to expand the VTOC once I had performed the copy. I noticed that in your example you don't stipulate the size of the VTOC. Is that okay? From: Linda Mooney linda.lst...@comcast.net To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Friday, 4 November 2011 8:31 PM Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT COPY COMMAND - DFDSS Hi John, There are a couple of additional things to consider related to your inquiry. It may be that you are already familar with them. Since you are moving from 3390/3 to 3390/9, are the VTOC and VVDS large enough? Once you have moved a full volume 3390/3, along with its volser, to a 3390/9, check the amount of free space on the 3390/9volume. It may show the same amount of free space as the source 3390/3 volume. In that case, you would need to refresh the VTOC. //ICKDSF EXEC PGM=ICKDSF,PARM='NOREPLYU' //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //DD0 DD UNIT=SYSALLDA,DISP=SHR,VOL=SER=volser //SYSIN DD * REFORMAT VERIFY(volser) DDNAME(DD0) REFVTOC /* HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: John Dawes jhn_da...@yahoo.com.au To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 6:05:42 AM Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT COPY COMMAND - DFDSS Barry, I am copying each volume 1 for 1 i.e. I will be copying (4) 3390-3 to (4) 3390-9. Sorry, I should have posed my question more clearly. From: Schwarz, Barry A barry.a.schw...@boeing.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, 3 November 2011 3:42 PM Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT COPY COMMAND - DFDSS My 1.11 copy of the DSS Storage Admin manual states that FULL is the default. Does your manual say something different? Are you copying each 3390-3 to a different 3390-9 or all four to a single 3390-9? If the latter, you might be better off with a dataset copy specifying all datasets and the four volumes rather than four separate volume copies. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John Dawes Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 8:35 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: QUESTION ABOUT COPY COMMAND - DFDSS G'Day, We are in the process of freeing a controller and I need to move 4 volumes off it. I plan to used DFDSS to copy the volume to a new adress. The source is a 3390-3 and the target is 3390-9. My question is do I need to add the parm FULL along with the COPY and ADMIN ALLDATA(*) ALLEXCP COPYVOLID PURGE statements? In the past years I did not use the FULL command and it worked okay. Is there a danger not using it? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu
Re: TSO SCREENSIZE
Tag Juergen, Some applications use screen maps to control how they display. We have some like that in my shop . If used with a screen size that a screen map has not been defined for, the display results can be anything from really wierd to just a not very helpful error message. Depends on how the application was written. The applications programmers who support the application should know if screen maps are used for it or not. You might also find a .MAPS or .SKELTNS or similar dataset in the user's TSO proc, or in the application's STC. Of course, not knowing anything about your application or how it is written, this suggestion may, or may not, apply to your situation. HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: Juergen Keller juergen.kel...@deutsche-boerse.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 6:53:32 AM Subject: TSO SCREENSIZE hello together, I have a strange problem and maybe someone had the same and had a solution for this we got new terminals with bigger sizes and now the users wants to use the new PCOM-size of 62x160 which is supported I think since PCOM6.0. So a user logon to TSO with the variable logmode D4C32XX3. In ISPF you can see that it uses 62x160 (SDSF LOG) and TSO also uses 62x160 (also SDSF LOG). Now we have some ISPF-applications having problems with this logmode. The panels are not defined to ISPPLIB and look like hardcoded in the application. The result is that the panels are disrupted. The first line (80 bytes) of the panel is shown in line 1 - byte 1-80 and the second line of the panel is shown in line 1 - byte 81-160. The result is that the panels look very stange. Now I had the idea to use the TERMINAL-command and set the screensize to 43x80 for this application (first command in calling REXX). But unfortunately the result is the same. I can see that TSO has switched its size but the panels of the application are still disrupted. The problem now is what are this very old applications doing? Do we have sourcecode? We have no answer .. we only have that problem :-( Then I tried to call SDSF in READY-mode of TSO after I had changed the screensize to 43x80. The result is the same. The panel is disrupted and look like the problem we have with our applications. I can ask IBM (pmr) but I new the answer: why are we doing that and this is not supported. But I only want to help the users to use 62x160 for ISPF and maybe 43x80 when using TSO. To make it complete confusing ... it you change SCRSIZE to 24x80 all looks fine ... only with 32x80, 43x80 and 27x132 and SDSF called in READY-mode you have that problem (and also with our own application). Is there anyone who had the same problem in the past and got a solution? TNX Juergen -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: OT measures was Re: Out damn'd GMT ...
Hi Clark, And what size pound it that? The half kilo 500 grams or the 450ish gram American pound? :-D Linda - Original Message - From: Clark Morris cfmpub...@ns.sympatico.ca To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 8:31:27 AM Subject: OT measures was Re: Out damn'd GMT ... On 3 Nov 2011 20:16:18 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main Ted MacNEIL wrote: US: 2 cups - 8 by 2 = 16 oz IMPERIAL: 2.5 cups = 20 oz 1 IMP gallon = 10 lb (water) 1 US gallon = 8 lb 1 IMP gallon = 160 oz 1 US = 128 oz In both systems: 1 oz weighs 1 oz (water) 1 millilitres of water = 1 gramme. As far as I know, the US is the only country that still uses the 16 oz pint. Of course, it may also be the only non-metric country left, as well. Canada may be officially metric but I am looking at an advertisement for meat at $4.99 a pound at my local grocery here in Nova Scotia, Canada. Clark Morris - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL rest snipped -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: QUESTION ABOUT COPY COMMAND - DFDSS
Hi John, There are a couple of additional things to consider related to your inquiry. It may be that you are already familar with them. Since you are moving from 3390/3 to 3390/9, are the VTOC and VVDS large enough? Once you have moved a full volume 3390/3, along with its volser, to a 3390/9, check the amount of free space on the 3390/9volume. It may show the same amount of free space as the source 3390/3 volume. In that case, you would need to refresh the VTOC. //ICKDSF EXEC PGM=ICKDSF,PARM='NOREPLYU' //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //DD0 DD UNIT=SYSALLDA,DISP=SHR,VOL=SER=volser //SYSIN DD * REFORMAT VERIFY(volser) DDNAME(DD0) REFVTOC /* HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: John Dawes jhn_da...@yahoo.com.au To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 6:05:42 AM Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT COPY COMMAND - DFDSS Barry, I am copying each volume 1 for 1 i.e. I will be copying (4) 3390-3 to (4) 3390-9. Sorry, I should have posed my question more clearly. From: Schwarz, Barry A barry.a.schw...@boeing.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, 3 November 2011 3:42 PM Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT COPY COMMAND - DFDSS My 1.11 copy of the DSS Storage Admin manual states that FULL is the default. Does your manual say something different? Are you copying each 3390-3 to a different 3390-9 or all four to a single 3390-9? If the latter, you might be better off with a dataset copy specifying all datasets and the four volumes rather than four separate volume copies. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John Dawes Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 8:35 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: QUESTION ABOUT COPY COMMAND - DFDSS G'Day, We are in the process of freeing a controller and I need to move 4 volumes off it. I plan to used DFDSS to copy the volume to a new adress. The source is a 3390-3 and the target is 3390-9. My question is do I need to add the parm FULL along with the COPY and ADMIN ALLDATA(*) ALLEXCP COPYVOLID PURGE statements? In the past years I did not use the FULL command and it worked okay. Is there a danger not using it? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Central Coast Software's: DASDCALC
Hi John, Have you tried the Win 7 compatibility mode? I have found that to be successful in several cases. HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: John H. Lang johnhl...@charter.net To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2011 1:38:59 PM Subject: Central Coast Software's: DASDCALC Greetings List, I have had several inquiries concerning DASDCALC working in a Window's 7 environment. DASDCALC will work in a Windows' 7 32 bit environment but not in the 64bit environment. There is supposed to be a way to make it work in a 64bit environment so I am researching that. When I have an answer, I will let everyone know. In the meantime, anyone with experience on how to make this work in a 64bit environment, I would welcome your offline input. I am very pleased that so many still find this little tool useful. If anyone does not know what's being talked about here, go to: www.centralcoastsoftware.com and download the Windows based DASDCALC utility. The website is admittedly dated but it get the job done. John Lang Developer john.l...@centralcoastsoftware.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CRLF in unix, translated :-)
Hi Gil, Pedant, I know, but sophist I had to check with dictionary.com. While there, I found this quote, and I thought you guys might enjoy it. The scholar, without good breeding, is a pedant; the philosopher, a cynic; the soldier, a brute; and every man disagreeable. -Philip Dormer Stanhope Chesterfield, 4th Earl grin Linda - Original Message - From: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 10:20:38 AM Subject: Re: CRLF in unix, translated :-) On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 15:54:57 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: 2. I once worked with someone whose van had the license number PEDANT. I was, of course, jealous. Did you try for SOPHIST as a poor second choice? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Maintenance at two in the afternoon? On a Friday?
Hi Steve, A very quick perusal of their careers page shows that they are looking foe someone with Bachelors Degree in Business Administration or Information Technology •ITIL certifications •1 year of experience in ITIL processes •2 years of experience in Application development •Knowledge of ITIL process and procedures •Experience managing outsourced providers in the delivery of technical services (i.e. contractors) •MVS/CICS/DB2 skills, no scripting necessary. •Proficient knowledge of mainframe environment including z/OS including basic mainframe tools and navigation So maybe the down for maintenance was more of an OOPS! notice of boat anchor dragging? Looks like they might need some serious training on that mainframe - they don't seem to know how to use it properly. VBG Linda - Original Message - From: Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 1:29:58 PM Subject: Maintenance at two in the afternoon? On a Friday? Well, I just tried to do some online credit card account maintenance with my Capital One card, and got the message 'System Unavailable'. I called tech support and they said they were doing maintenance on the system. Regular weekend maintenance. At 2:00 on a Friday afternoon? Does anyone know if they are using mainframes for their online / web based work? Sheesh! Someone should teach them they can use mainframes and do maintenance while the system keeps running! Makes you wonder about staying with them. -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com * To get a good Return on your Investment, first make an investment! + Training your people is an excellent investment * Try our new tool for calculating your Return On Investment for training dollars at http://www.trainersfriend.com/ROI/roi.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Please Help IBM Fix 'Broken' PDSE Problems
Hi Ed, Tha nk you for the heads up on this problem. Has this problem occurred ONLY on EAVs? I am in the in the Modify activity of the ServerPac install for 1.12 and I will look into the APAR you mentioned. U p time in gereral is a huge thing for us. I am up now for 18 months straight on a production monoplex . Our law enforcement customers really like that. So, considering the issues you have seen with PDSe would you think it warranted to, in ServerPac, change those datasets that can be changed back to PDS instead of PDSE? Monoplex LPAR, no PAV or EAV. Thanks, Linda - Original Message - From: Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 9:41:23 AM Subject: Please Help IBM Fix 'Broken' PDSE Problems We have been suffering for a long time with large PDSEs on EAVs spontaneously 'breaking' every couple/few weeks or months. In June of last year, I opened PMR 31744,227,000 where I reported S0F4 RC24 failures in IGWDACND+1AFA at z/OS 1.11 base level. The recommended maintenance was to apply the PTF for OA30338. That did not help. Since then we have been hoping someone else would discover and fix the real, underlying problem. [Wishful thinking.] It continued unchanged in z/OS 1.12. When we saw the problem again under z/OS 1.13, I opened PMR 57302,227,000 to report S0F4 RC24 failures in IGWBITX1+10F8. This time the service folks pointed me to APAR OA37090. The PDSE development team opened this APAR as follow up maintenance to OA30338. The newer APAR, like OA30338, is an attempt to addresses errors associated with PDSE VDF index page processing. The APAR error description reads: DIAGNOSTIC CODE TO TRAP WRITING OUT BAD PDSE DIRECTORY ENTRIES Clearly IBM is attempting to improve PDSE RAS to catch a corruption issue when it actually occurs. Without such logic, it's the job that next uses the PDSE that gets abended trying to use the broken PDSE. The APAR also resolves a code issue that under certain circumstances allowed a page buffer to be discarded twice. We have not seen more broken PDSEs since applying this service, but it's only been two weeks since the IPL that made it active. In any case, I'd like to suggest people install this service in the hope that it will help YOU avoid the hassle of broken PDSEs and/or better enable the z/OS community to assist IBM in tracking down some of these nagging PDSE problems. PDSEs are required more and more every day. The sooner we get these issues fixed, the better off we will all be. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Please Help IBM Fix 'Broken' PDSE Problems
Hi Ed, Thanks, I very much appreciate the post and the info. I'm going to go with caution. We are down to minimal staffing now, running completely unattended nights and weekends and no automation due to severe budget and staff cuts - a third of our IT staff is gone. If we did hit this problem, it could be ugly. I'll plan on running with PDSE only where required, and I'll pick up the APAR service. Best Regards, Linda - Original Message - From: Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 3:00:04 PM Subject: Re: Please Help IBM Fix 'Broken' PDSE Problems On 10/27/2011 1:02 PM, Linda Mooney wrote: Has this problem occurred ONLY on EAVs? It seems that larger PDSEs are most affected. I believe the problem(s) can happen on any kind of disk. However, those residing on EAV tend to be larger than those on smaller devices. We put all of our large files on EAV. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo, CA 90245 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Lines per page - IDCAMS output
Hi Chris, If you write your IDCAMS output to a temp dataset and pass it to the next step, you can use your favorite utility/program to remove the channel 1 from column 1 of your output. Optionally, you could remove all of the carriage control or edit it as you wish, even change the location of the channel 1 to suit what ever form you want to use. What kind of printer are you wanting/needing to use? If you have a printer that supports AFP, then pagedef and formdef A18C ( and there are other resources in the AFP starter set ) will give you 8.5 x 11, duplex, por trait, offset graybar. Without the channel 1s to force page eject, the output will fill the page. I f you use a line printer, you will get the number of lines defined in JES parms, which is generally a full page with a bottom margin. If you are using VPS, the VPS member for the printer can be set to use a PostScript or PCL page presentation, or if using line print, you can set the font and the number of lines per page that will fit using your chosen font. You have a lot of options. I am curious - why print? Perhaps using XDC from SDSF and writing the output to a dataset would save all of the paper :) and the resulting dataset (or PDS member) could easily be viewed in ISPF. HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: Chris Hilliard chris.hilli...@norfolk.gov To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 7:49:25 AM Subject: Lines per page - IDCAMS output Curious if anyone knows whether or not you can change the lines per page for IDCAMS output. It appears to be set to something like 52. On occasion we need to print off rather large LISTCAT listings. In the interest of saving paper, being able to fill up the page would be useful. I serached the archive but didn't find too many hits. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Our community strengths
Hi Steve, I frequently run into people who remember the IBM ad about the servers being stolen, but they have really been consolodated onto the one mainframe. There weren't any follow on ads about how well that worked out for the company, nothing with the worried and frightened looking boss happliy going over the balance sheets, looking good at the customer meetings, getting promoted for his vision, winning recognition in the local community for going green. I am often reading one of th e fine manuals on transit and when folks look curious, we chat. Most say that they thought that the mainframe was gone now - they don't hear anything more about it. They are always surprised to hear about some of the mainframes here, in my area, and the kind of work they do. That IBM ad seems to be the last thing that many of the public has heard about mainframes. For all of the efforts any of us make, if the public isn't informed, and encouraged, they aren't going to go to work and talk about how they heard, saw, read that mainframes were more reliable, better suited to critical services, etc. With the z196 and z114 now in play, where are the marketers? It is insufficient for t hem to market only to the relative few who already know. The Super Bowl is coming soon. I'm hopeful, but I'm not holding my breath. Thanks, Linda - Original Message - From: Steve Comstock st...@trainersfriend.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 7:32:51 PM Subject: Re: Our community strengths On 10/25/2011 7:36 PM, Dale Miller wrote: OK, so we squabble, and disagree, but it is my belief that this community has in its membership many of the giants who built a technological marvel that underpins our society today, or at least would do so if management could be induced to extend its event-horizon beyond the current fiscal year, and to start counting real costs. Most of us have plied our trade in an environment where an unplanned outage or functional failure were simply not to be allowed. Because we built systems to perform well and reliably, we were invisible, except when we made mistakes. I'm sure I'm not alone in experiencing the almost-every-day complaint from a clerk in a store that 'the computer isn't working right today'. I believe that we should be getting the word out that computers don't have to act this way, and that we know how to build systems that behave properly. We certainly face an uphill battle against the mind-set among management that leads them to set unreasonable requirements for job descriptions and set the salary schedules far below current going rates. It really gets my goat that they use these machinations to spread the lies that they cannot get skilled IT personnel. See http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB10001424052970204422404576596630897409182-lMyQjAxMTAxMDIwNDEyNDQyWj.html?mod=wsj_share_email . I retired when I could no longer put up with the asininity of company politics, but if I wanted to continue in my chosen career, I would certainly undertake to build my skills in database, communications, and UNIX, however distasteful that might be. I could go on for hours about the poor design features of UNIX and current email and internet protocols, but if I needed a job, I would swallow my pride and start hitting the books. Of course, with the current political climate regarding Social Security and Medicare, I might have to go back to work. Perhaps I should have made larger private investments, but then maybe I would have invested in Enron, AIG, Lehman Brothers, or Bernie Madoff. Dale Miller You'd think IBM would be interested in telling the story. But, sadly, that doesn't seem to be the case. I have been after many IBM'ers to launch an effort to win the hearts and minds of people in IT and to raise the level of awareness of mainframes (especially z/OS) in the general public. But they don't seem to care about it: they are either hopelessly lost or they have a future plan that does not include z/OS. -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com * Special promotion: 15% off on all DB2 training classes scheduled by September 1, taught by year end 2011 * Check out our entire DB2 curriculum at: http://www.trainersfriend.com/DB2_and_VSAM_courses/DB2curric.htm -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu
Re: BLDL error Cause
Hi Jags, There is no directory. Directory space is the third parameter on the space allocation when allocating a PDS. Either he forgot to code it, or it was 0. Ask the programmer to delete the dataset and create it again, with directory space. HTH, Linda - Original Message - From: jagadishan perumal jagadish...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 11:07:19 PM Subject: BLDL error Cause Hi All, One of our application programmer has created a PDS with below attributes : Data Set Name . . . : TPUN011.NEWMAPST General Data Current Allocation Management class . . : **None** Allocated blocks . : 741 Storage class . . . : TPUSC Allocated extents . : 2 Volume serial . . . : TPUN01 Maximum dir. blocks : 0 * Device type . . . . : 3390 Data class . . . . . : **None** Organization . . . : PO Current Utilization Record format . . . : FB Used blocks . . . . : 3 Record length . . . : 80 Used extents . . . : 1 Block size . . . . : 800 Used dir. blocks . : 0 * 1st extent blocks . : 78 Number of members . : 0 * Secondary blocks . : 100 Data set name type : PDS Creation date . . . : 2011/10/18 Referenced date . . : 2011/10/24 Expiration date . . : ***None*** * Information is unavailable. When he tries to allocate a member within the dataset : TPUN011.NEWMAPST(map), he gets a message as BLDL error I tried searching some error related to PDF as starting with ISR but I was not able to fetch any error codes relating to BLDL Error in the syslog. IBM manual has various explanation for BLDL or I/O processing error, but for the above I am unable to pin-point the exact cause. Looking at the above dataset attribute, I can see a * symbol beside Maximum dir. blocks and Used dir. blocks . : 0, but i am unable to interpret the exact cause. Could anyone please suggest me your comment on query. Regards, Jags -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html