Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECALLING SMS DSNS TO A SPECIFIC SMS MANAGED DISK

2018-07-10 Thread John Dawes
 You mention "bypass options".  Does this pertain to recalling the file to a 
non-SMS disk or SMS disk?  I would like to try out your suggestion.  
On Friday, 6 July 2018, 2:53:13 pm GMT-4, Gibney, Dave  
wrote:  
 
 There are bypass options, given sufficient authority. Of course, with 
sufficient authority, the ACS routines could be tweaked for the specific case 
during recall. :)

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> On Behalf Of Allan Staller
> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2018 11:50 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECALLING SMS DSNS TO A SPECIFIC SMS
> MANAGED DISK
> 
> I don't think ADRDSSU will override the SMS specifications.
> 
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> On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave
> Sent: Friday, July 6, 2018 1:43 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECALLING SMS DSNS TO A SPECIFIC SMS
> MANAGED DISK
> 
> 1. Pull it back. 2. Move it with ADDRDSSU
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> > On Behalf Of Mike Schwab
> > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2018 11:24 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECALLING SMS DSNS TO A SPECIFIC SMS
> > MANAGED DISK
> >
> > If that dataset needs a large allocation, quiesce a/that volume,
> > migrate the select volume to move unallocated datasets on it, defrag
> > to create larger extents, then recall it.  If no active volume has
> > enough space, it would go there.
> > On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 10:07 AM John Dawes <00ff0e22811f-dmarc-
> > requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > >  Allan,
> > > Thanks for your suggestion.  I looked at that option however being
> > > in the
> > Production cycle window I cannot do so because jobs could abend if I
> > do a DISNEW.
> > >    On Friday, 6 July 2018, 11:00:02 am GMT-4, Allan Staller
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > >  AFAIK, Guaranteed Space only (IMO) acceptable way to accomplish
> > > what
> > you've described.
> > >
> > > You could place all of the other volumes in the pool in QUIESCE or
> > > DISNEW
> > for the duration (IMO, not acceptable).
> > > You could make the ACS routine and SMS update to place the desired
> > > volume in its own SG, restore your data, and reverse the process.
> > > (Waaay tooo much work!)
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
> > > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Dawes
> > > Sent: Friday, July 6, 2018 9:48 AM
> > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > > Subject: DFHSM QUESTION - RECALLING SMS DSNS TO A SPECIFIC SMS
> > MANAGED
> > > DISK
> > >
> > > G'Day,
> > > Because of storage considerations I would like to recall some ML2
> > > SMS
> > managed dsns to a specific SMS managed disk.  I tried a few things e.g.
> > :HSEND RECALL 'CICSV2.XPD2.A7060.ZFE1' VOLUME(ZFE315) -  UNIT(3390)
> > However the dsn was not recalled to the desired disk.  I thought of
> > using the GUARANTEED SPACE storage class option as a work around.  I
> > checked the doc (DFSMShsm Storage Administration Guide) but I could
> > not find an example.  Is this possible to do?  If so, would anyone
> > have an example to share?
> > > Thanks.
> > >
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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECALLING SMS DSNS TO A SPECIFIC SMS MANAGED DISK

2018-07-06 Thread Gibney, Dave
There are bypass options, given sufficient authority. Of course, with 
sufficient authority, the ACS routines could be tweaked for the specific case 
during recall. :)

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> On Behalf Of Allan Staller
> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2018 11:50 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECALLING SMS DSNS TO A SPECIFIC SMS
> MANAGED DISK
> 
> I don't think ADRDSSU will override the SMS specifications.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave
> Sent: Friday, July 6, 2018 1:43 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECALLING SMS DSNS TO A SPECIFIC SMS
> MANAGED DISK
> 
> 1. Pull it back. 2. Move it with ADDRDSSU
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> > On Behalf Of Mike Schwab
> > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2018 11:24 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECALLING SMS DSNS TO A SPECIFIC SMS
> > MANAGED DISK
> >
> > If that dataset needs a large allocation, quiesce a/that volume,
> > migrate the select volume to move unallocated datasets on it, defrag
> > to create larger extents, then recall it.  If no active volume has
> > enough space, it would go there.
> > On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 10:07 AM John Dawes <00ff0e22811f-dmarc-
> > requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > >  Allan,
> > > Thanks for your suggestion.  I looked at that option however being
> > > in the
> > Production cycle window I cannot do so because jobs could abend if I
> > do a DISNEW.
> > > On Friday, 6 July 2018, 11:00:02 am GMT-4, Allan Staller
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > >  AFAIK, Guaranteed Space only (IMO) acceptable way to accomplish
> > > what
> > you've described.
> > >
> > > You could place all of the other volumes in the pool in QUIESCE or
> > > DISNEW
> > for the duration (IMO, not acceptable).
> > > You could make the ACS routine and SMS update to place the desired
> > > volume in its own SG, restore your data, and reverse the process.
> > > (Waaay tooo much work!)
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
> > > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Dawes
> > > Sent: Friday, July 6, 2018 9:48 AM
> > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > > Subject: DFHSM QUESTION - RECALLING SMS DSNS TO A SPECIFIC SMS
> > MANAGED
> > > DISK
> > >
> > > G'Day,
> > > Because of storage considerations I would like to recall some ML2
> > > SMS
> > managed dsns to a specific SMS managed disk.  I tried a few things e.g.
> > :HSEND RECALL 'CICSV2.XPD2.A7060.ZFE1' VOLUME(ZFE315) -  UNIT(3390)
> > However the dsn was not recalled to the desired disk.  I thought of
> > using the GUARANTEED SPACE storage class option as a work around.  I
> > checked the doc (DFSMShsm Storage Administration Guide) but I could
> > not find an example.  Is this possible to do?  If so, would anyone
> > have an example to share?
> > > Thanks.
> > >
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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECALLING SMS DSNS TO A SPECIFIC SMS MANAGED DISK

2018-07-06 Thread Allan Staller
I don't think ADRDSSU will override the SMS specifications.

-Original Message-
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Of Gibney, Dave
Sent: Friday, July 6, 2018 1:43 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECALLING SMS DSNS TO A SPECIFIC SMS MANAGED DISK

1. Pull it back. 2. Move it with ADDRDSSU

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
> On Behalf Of Mike Schwab
> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2018 11:24 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECALLING SMS DSNS TO A SPECIFIC SMS 
> MANAGED DISK
> 
> If that dataset needs a large allocation, quiesce a/that volume, 
> migrate the select volume to move unallocated datasets on it, defrag 
> to create larger extents, then recall it.  If no active volume has 
> enough space, it would go there.
> On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 10:07 AM John Dawes <00ff0e22811f-dmarc- 
> requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> >
> >  Allan,
> > Thanks for your suggestion.  I looked at that option however being 
> > in the
> Production cycle window I cannot do so because jobs could abend if I 
> do a DISNEW.
> > On Friday, 6 July 2018, 11:00:02 am GMT-4, Allan Staller
>  wrote:
> >
> >  AFAIK, Guaranteed Space only (IMO) acceptable way to accomplish 
> > what
> you've described.
> >
> > You could place all of the other volumes in the pool in QUIESCE or 
> > DISNEW
> for the duration (IMO, not acceptable).
> > You could make the ACS routine and SMS update to place the desired 
> > volume in its own SG, restore your data, and reverse the process.
> > (Waaay tooo much work!)
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of John Dawes
> > Sent: Friday, July 6, 2018 9:48 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: DFHSM QUESTION - RECALLING SMS DSNS TO A SPECIFIC SMS
> MANAGED
> > DISK
> >
> > G'Day,
> > Because of storage considerations I would like to recall some ML2 
> > SMS
> managed dsns to a specific SMS managed disk.  I tried a few things e.g.
> :HSEND RECALL 'CICSV2.XPD2.A7060.ZFE1' VOLUME(ZFE315) -  UNIT(3390) 
> However the dsn was not recalled to the desired disk.  I thought of 
> using the GUARANTEED SPACE storage class option as a work around.  I 
> checked the doc (DFSMShsm Storage Administration Guide) but I could 
> not find an example.  Is this possible to do?  If so, would anyone 
> have an example to share?
> > Thanks.
> >
> > 
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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECALLING SMS DSNS TO A SPECIFIC SMS MANAGED DISK

2018-07-06 Thread Gibney, Dave
1. Pull it back. 2. Move it with ADDRDSSU

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> On Behalf Of Mike Schwab
> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2018 11:24 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECALLING SMS DSNS TO A SPECIFIC SMS
> MANAGED DISK
> 
> If that dataset needs a large allocation, quiesce a/that volume, migrate the
> select volume to move unallocated datasets on it, defrag to create larger
> extents, then recall it.  If no active volume has enough space, it would go
> there.
> On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 10:07 AM John Dawes <00ff0e22811f-dmarc-
> requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> >
> >  Allan,
> > Thanks for your suggestion.  I looked at that option however being in the
> Production cycle window I cannot do so because jobs could abend if I do a
> DISNEW.
> > On Friday, 6 July 2018, 11:00:02 am GMT-4, Allan Staller
>  wrote:
> >
> >  AFAIK, Guaranteed Space only (IMO) acceptable way to accomplish what
> you've described.
> >
> > You could place all of the other volumes in the pool in QUIESCE or DISNEW
> for the duration (IMO, not acceptable).
> > You could make the ACS routine and SMS update to place the desired
> > volume in its own SG, restore your data, and reverse the process.
> > (Waaay tooo much work!)
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> > On Behalf Of John Dawes
> > Sent: Friday, July 6, 2018 9:48 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: DFHSM QUESTION - RECALLING SMS DSNS TO A SPECIFIC SMS
> MANAGED
> > DISK
> >
> > G'Day,
> > Because of storage considerations I would like to recall some ML2 SMS
> managed dsns to a specific SMS managed disk.  I tried a few things e.g.
> :HSEND RECALL 'CICSV2.XPD2.A7060.ZFE1' VOLUME(ZFE315) -  UNIT(3390)
> However the dsn was not recalled to the desired disk.  I thought of using the
> GUARANTEED SPACE storage class option as a work around.  I checked the
> doc (DFSMShsm Storage Administration Guide) but I could not find an
> example.  Is this possible to do?  If so, would anyone have an example to
> share?
> > Thanks.
> >
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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECALLING SMS DSNS TO A SPECIFIC SMS MANAGED DISK

2018-07-06 Thread Mike Schwab
If that dataset needs a large allocation, quiesce a/that volume,
migrate the select volume to move unallocated datasets on it, defrag
to create larger extents, then recall it.  If no active volume has
enough space, it would go there.
On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 10:07 AM John Dawes
<00ff0e22811f-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
>  Allan,
> Thanks for your suggestion.  I looked at that option however being in the 
> Production cycle window I cannot do so because jobs could abend if I do a 
> DISNEW.
> On Friday, 6 July 2018, 11:00:02 am GMT-4, Allan Staller 
>  wrote:
>
>  AFAIK, Guaranteed Space only (IMO) acceptable way to accomplish what you've 
> described.
>
> You could place all of the other volumes in the pool in QUIESCE or DISNEW for 
> the duration (IMO, not acceptable).
> You could make the ACS routine and SMS update to place the desired volume in 
> its own SG, restore your data, and reverse the process. (Waaay tooo much 
> work!)
>
> HTH,
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
> Behalf Of John Dawes
> Sent: Friday, July 6, 2018 9:48 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: DFHSM QUESTION - RECALLING SMS DSNS TO A SPECIFIC SMS MANAGED DISK
>
> G'Day,
> Because of storage considerations I would like to recall some ML2 SMS managed 
> dsns to a specific SMS managed disk.  I tried a few things e.g. :HSEND RECALL 
> 'CICSV2.XPD2.A7060.ZFE1' VOLUME(ZFE315) -  UNIT(3390) 
>However the dsn was not recalled to the desired disk.  I 
> thought of using the GUARANTEED SPACE storage class option as a work around.  
> I checked the doc (DFSMShsm Storage Administration Guide) but I could not 
> find an example.  Is this possible to do?  If so, would anyone have an 
> example to share?
> Thanks.
>
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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECALLING SMS DSNS TO A SPECIFIC SMS MANAGED DISK

2018-07-06 Thread John Dawes
 Allan,
Thanks for your suggestion.  I looked at that option however being in the 
Production cycle window I cannot do so because jobs could abend if I do a 
DISNEW.
On Friday, 6 July 2018, 11:00:02 am GMT-4, Allan Staller 
 wrote:  
 
 AFAIK, Guaranteed Space only (IMO) acceptable way to accomplish what you've 
described.

You could place all of the other volumes in the pool in QUIESCE or DISNEW for 
the duration (IMO, not acceptable).
You could make the ACS routine and SMS update to place the desired volume in 
its own SG, restore your data, and reverse the process. (Waaay tooo much work!)

HTH,

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of John Dawes
Sent: Friday, July 6, 2018 9:48 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: DFHSM QUESTION - RECALLING SMS DSNS TO A SPECIFIC SMS MANAGED DISK

G'Day,
Because of storage considerations I would like to recall some ML2 SMS managed 
dsns to a specific SMS managed disk.  I tried a few things e.g. :HSEND RECALL 
'CICSV2.XPD2.A7060.ZFE1' VOLUME(ZFE315) -  UNIT(3390)                           
                 However the dsn was not recalled to the desired disk.  I 
thought of using the GUARANTEED SPACE storage class option as a work around.  I 
checked the doc (DFSMShsm Storage Administration Guide) but I could not find an 
example.  Is this possible to do?  If so, would anyone have an example to share?
Thanks.

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECALLING SMS DSNS TO A SPECIFIC SMS MANAGED DISK

2018-07-06 Thread Allan Staller
AFAIK, Guaranteed Space only (IMO) acceptable way to accomplish what you've 
described.

You could place all of the other volumes in the pool in QUIESCE or DISNEW for 
the duration (IMO, not acceptable).
You could make the ACS routine and SMS update to place the desired volume in 
its own SG, restore your data, and reverse the process. (Waaay tooo much work!)

HTH,

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of John Dawes
Sent: Friday, July 6, 2018 9:48 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: DFHSM QUESTION - RECALLING SMS DSNS TO A SPECIFIC SMS MANAGED DISK

G'Day,
Because of storage considerations I would like to recall some ML2 SMS managed 
dsns to a specific SMS managed disk.  I tried a few things e.g. :HSEND RECALL 
'CICSV2.XPD2.A7060.ZFE1' VOLUME(ZFE315) -   UNIT(3390)  
  However the dsn was not recalled to the desired disk.  I 
thought of using the GUARANTEED SPACE storage class option as a work around.  I 
checked the doc (DFSMShsm Storage Administration Guide) but I could not find an 
example.  Is this possible to do?  If so, would anyone have an example to share?
Thanks.

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DFHSM QUESTION - RECALLING SMS DSNS TO A SPECIFIC SMS MANAGED DISK

2018-07-06 Thread John Dawes
G'Day,
Because of storage considerations I would like to recall some ML2 SMS managed 
dsns to a specific SMS managed disk.  I tried a few things e.g. :HSEND RECALL 
'CICSV2.XPD2.A7060.ZFE1' VOLUME(ZFE315) -   UNIT(3390)                          
                  However the dsn was not recalled to the desired disk.  I 
thought of using the GUARANTEED SPACE storage class option as a work around.  I 
checked the doc (DFSMShsm Storage Administration Guide) but I could not find an 
example.  Is this possible to do?  If so, would anyone have an example to share?
Thanks.  

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - PROBLEM SOLVED.

2017-08-11 Thread willie bunter
Just to let you all know I finally was able to delete the records.  I was 
barking up the wrong tree.  I was concentrating on the 'B" instead of the "C" 
records.

I dd a FIXCDS C HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG2.I8257 DELETE
That did the trick.

Thanks to all who responded and helped out with their suggestions.


On Fri, 7/28/17, willie bunter  wrote:

 Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
 To: "IBM Mainframe Discussion List" 
 Received: Friday, July 28, 2017, 12:33 PM
 
 Lizette,
 
 I have taken note of your suggestion
 and I will adhere to it.
 I checked my command and it shows that
 all the contents of the command is as follows as suggested
 by Brian:   HSEND AUDIT DSCTL(BACKUP) FIX.
 
 I didn't have BDELETE or anyother parm
 in the command.  I am not sure why HSM is complaining
 that the command contained these parms.
 
 
 On Fri, 7/28/17, Lizette Koehler 
 wrote:
 
  Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  Received: Friday, July 28, 2017, 10:01
 AM
  
  Willie
  
  It would be helpful to include just
 on
  pair of COMMAND and RESPONSE rather
 than all of your error
  messages.  Without the context of
 what command syntax
  you entered, it is difficult to assist
 you.
  
  Next.
  
  For this message:
  
  ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF
 THE
  FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
 KEYWORDS:
  ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR
  DATE               
                 
         
  
  It appears that when you entered the
  BDELETE command you did not include
 the subparm of ALL
  VERSIONS or DATE 
  
  Please review this process and ensure
  you are entering the command according
 to the DFHSM Admin
  Guide
  
  Lizette
  
  
  > -Original Message-
  > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion
  List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
  On
  > Behalf Of willie bunter
  > Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 6:33
  AM
  > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  > Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
  > 
  > Brian,
  > 
  > I tried your suggestion
  unfortunately it didn't get rid of the
 ERR 40.  Here
  > is the message that was sent to
 my
  terminal:
  > 
  > ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE
  OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
  > KEYWORDS:
  > ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS,
 OR
  DATE
  > ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE
  OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
  > KEYWORDS:
  > ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS,
 OR
  DATE
  > ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE
  OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
  > KEYWORDS:
  > ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS,
 OR
  DATE
  > ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE
  OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
  > KEYWORDS:
  > ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS,
 OR
  DATE
  > ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE
  OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
  > KEYWORDS:
  > ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS,
 OR
  DATE
  > ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE
  OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
  > KEYWORDS:
  > ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS,
 OR
  DATE
  > ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE
  OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
  > KEYWORDS:
  > ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS,
 OR
  DATE
  > ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE
  OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
  > KEYWORDS:
  > ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS,
 OR
  DATE
  > ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE
  OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
  > KEYWORDS:
  > ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS,
 OR
  DATE
  > 
  > Below is a sample of the output.
  > /* ERR 40 DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613
 
 HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG2.I8257
  > MISSING
  > /* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
  CREATE(X'0014' X'0098257F')
  > /* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
  PATCH(X'002E' BITS(1.1.))
  > /* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
  PATCH(X'0030' X'000100010001')
  > /* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
  EXPAND(X'0040')
  > /* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
  PATCH(X'0050' +
  > /*
  >
 
 X'404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404
  > 0404040404040')
  > /* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
  PATCH(X'0050'
  >
 
 HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG2.I8257)
  > /* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
  PATCH(X'0082' BITS(0110))
  > /* BDELETE DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
  > /* MSG 914 - ERROR ON BDELETE
  COMMAND
  > /* MSG 998 - AUDIT CONTINUING,
 SEE
  COMMAND ACTIVITY LOG
  > /* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
  DELETE
  > - END OF -     ENHANCED
  AUDIT - LISTING -
  > 
  >
 
 
  > On Thu, 7/27/17, Brian Fraser
  
  wrote:
  > 
  >  Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
  >  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  >  Received: Thursday, July 27,
  2017, 9:18 PM
  > 
  >  HSEND AUDIT DSCTL(BACKUP)
  FIX
  > 
  ODS('

Re: DFHSM QUESTION

2017-07-28 Thread Lizette Koehler
Note the description in the manual for DFHSM AUDIT

   AUDIT usually identifies a repair (and takes repair action when FIX is 
specified) for error messages (*ERR) 30, 35, 36, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, and 46.
   AUDIT recommends an additional diagnostic step for error messages (*ERR) 17 
if the backup tape involved is a volume written in single file format. 
   If you want AUDIT to continue its attempt to identify a repair action, you 
must specify an additional AUDIT command using the recommended parameter.
   For other reported conditions, see Error codes (*ERR) and diagnosis for some 
troubleshooting hints.


It usually does the repair.

Which tells me sometimes it cannot.

If you need to remove these errors, you may need to open an SR with IBM HSM 
Level two for further assistance.  It could be that in all of the commands that 
have been entered, something may have been broken links in the xCDS Datasets.  
And IBM should be able to help you.  Anything the list provides may cause 
further issues in your xCDS datasets.

Lizette


> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of willie bunter
> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 9:34 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
> 
> Lizette,
> 
> I have taken note of your suggestion and I will adhere to it.
> I checked my command and it shows that all the contents of the command is as
> follows as suggested by Brian:   HSEND AUDIT DSCTL(BACKUP) FIX.
> 
> I didn't have BDELETE or anyother parm in the command.  I am not sure why HSM
> is complaining that the command contained these parms.
> 
> 
> On Fri, 7/28/17, Lizette Koehler  wrote:
> 
>  Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
>  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>  Received: Friday, July 28, 2017, 10:01 AM
> 
>  Willie
> 
>  It would be helpful to include just on
>  pair of COMMAND and RESPONSE rather than all of your error
> messages.  Without the context of what command syntax  you entered, it is
> difficult to assist you.
> 
>  Next.
> 
>  For this message:
> 
>  ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE  FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
> KEYWORDS:
>  ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR
>  DATE
> 
> 
> 
>  It appears that when you entered the
>  BDELETE command you did not include the subparm of ALL  VERSIONS or DATE
> 
>  Please review this process and ensure
>  you are entering the command according to the DFHSM Admin  Guide
> 
>  Lizette
> 
> 
>  > -Original Message-
>  > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion
>  List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
>  On
>  > Behalf Of willie bunter
>  > Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 6:33
>  AM
>  > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>  > Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
>  >
>  > Brian,
>  >
>  > I tried your suggestion
>  unfortunately it didn't get rid of the ERR 40.  Here  > is the message that
> was sent to my
>  terminal:
>  >
>  > ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE
>  OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
>  > KEYWORDS:
>  > ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR
>  DATE
>  > ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE
>  OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
>  > KEYWORDS:
>  > ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR
>  DATE
>  > ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE
>  OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
>  > KEYWORDS:
>  > ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR
>  DATE
>  > ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE
>  OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
>  > KEYWORDS:
>  > ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR
>  DATE
>  > ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE
>  OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
>  > KEYWORDS:
>  > ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR
>  DATE
>  > ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE
>  OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
>  > KEYWORDS:
>  > ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR
>  DATE
>  > ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE
>  OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
>  > KEYWORDS:
>  > ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR
>  DATE
>  > ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE
>  OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
>  > KEYWORDS:
>  > ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR
>  DATE
>  > ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE
>  OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
>  > KEYWORDS:
>  > ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR
>  DATE
>  >
>  > Below is a sample of the output.
>  > /* ERR 40 DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613
>  HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG2.I8257
>  > MISSING
>  > /* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
>  CREATE(X'0014' X'0098257F')
>  > /* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
>  PATCH(X'002E' BITS(1.1.))
> 

Re: DFHSM QUESTION

2017-07-28 Thread Gibney, Dave
Stop/Start DFHSM and end the confusion is to which command is getting which 
response by starting fresh.
The reissue the AUDIT with the FIX option. If the error is still there, show 
both the command and the output

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> On Behalf Of willie bunter
> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 9:34 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
> 
> Lizette,
> 
> I have taken note of your suggestion and I will adhere to it.
> I checked my command and it shows that all the contents of the command is
> as follows as suggested by Brian:   HSEND AUDIT DSCTL(BACKUP) FIX.
> 
> I didn't have BDELETE or anyother parm in the command.  I am not sure why
> HSM is complaining that the command contained these parms.
> 
> 
> On Fri, 7/28/17, Lizette Koehler  wrote:
> 
>  Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
>  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>  Received: Friday, July 28, 2017, 10:01 AM
> 
>  Willie
> 
>  It would be helpful to include just on
>  pair of COMMAND and RESPONSE rather than all of your error
> messages.  Without the context of what command syntax  you entered, it is
> difficult to assist you.
> 
>  Next.
> 
>  For this message:
> 
>  ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE  FOLLOWING MUTUALLY
> EXCLUSIVE KEYWORDS:
>  ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR
>  DATE
> 
> 
> 
>  It appears that when you entered the
>  BDELETE command you did not include the subparm of ALL  VERSIONS or
> DATE
> 
>  Please review this process and ensure
>  you are entering the command according to the DFHSM Admin  Guide
> 
>  Lizette
> 
> 
>  > -Original Message-
>  > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion
>  List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
>  On
>  > Behalf Of willie bunter
>  > Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 6:33
>  AM
>  > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>  > Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
>  >
>  > Brian,
>  >
>  > I tried your suggestion
>  unfortunately it didn't get rid of the ERR 40.  Here  > is the message that 
> was
> sent to my
>  terminal:
>  >
>  > ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE
>  OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
>  > KEYWORDS:
>  > ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR
>  DATE
>  > ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE
>  OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
>  > KEYWORDS:
>  > ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR
>  DATE
>  > ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE
>  OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
>  > KEYWORDS:
>  > ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR
>  DATE
>  > ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE
>  OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
>  > KEYWORDS:
>  > ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR
>  DATE
>  > ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE
>  OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
>  > KEYWORDS:
>  > ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR
>  DATE
>  > ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE
>  OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
>  > KEYWORDS:
>  > ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR
>  DATE
>  > ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE
>  OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
>  > KEYWORDS:
>  > ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR
>  DATE
>  > ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE
>  OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
>  > KEYWORDS:
>  > ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR
>  DATE
>  > ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE
>  OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
>  > KEYWORDS:
>  > ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR
>  DATE
>  >
>  > Below is a sample of the output.
>  > /* ERR 40 DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613
>  HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG2.I8257
>  > MISSING
>  > /* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
>  CREATE(X'0014' X'0098257F')
>  > /* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
>  PATCH(X'002E' BITS(1.1.))
>  > /* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
>  PATCH(X'0030' X'000100010001')
>  > /* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
>  EXPAND(X'0040')
>  > /* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
>  PATCH(X'0050' +
>  > /*
>  >
> 
> X'40404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404
> 0404040404
>  > 0404040404040')
>  > /* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
>  PATCH(X'0050'
>  >
>  HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG2.I8257)
>  > /* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
>  PATCH(X'0082' BITS(0110))
>  > /* BDELETE DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
>  > /* MSG 914 - ERROR ON BDELETE
>  COMMAND
>  > /* MSG 998 - AUDIT CONTINUING, SEE
>  COMMAND ACTIVITY LOG
>  >

Re: DFHSM QUESTION

2017-07-28 Thread willie bunter
Lizette,

I have taken note of your suggestion and I will adhere to it.
I checked my command and it shows that all the contents of the command is as 
follows as suggested by Brian:   HSEND AUDIT DSCTL(BACKUP) FIX.

I didn't have BDELETE or anyother parm in the command.  I am not sure why HSM 
is complaining that the command contained these parms.


On Fri, 7/28/17, Lizette Koehler  wrote:

 Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Received: Friday, July 28, 2017, 10:01 AM
 
 Willie
 
 It would be helpful to include just on
 pair of COMMAND and RESPONSE rather than all of your error
 messages.  Without the context of what command syntax
 you entered, it is difficult to assist you.
 
 Next.
 
 For this message:
 
 ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE
 FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE KEYWORDS:
 ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR
 DATE               
                
        
 
 It appears that when you entered the
 BDELETE command you did not include the subparm of ALL
 VERSIONS or DATE 
 
 Please review this process and ensure
 you are entering the command according to the DFHSM Admin
 Guide
 
 Lizette
 
 
 > -Original Message-
 > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion
 List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On
 > Behalf Of willie bunter
 > Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 6:33
 AM
 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 > Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
 > 
 > Brian,
 > 
 > I tried your suggestion
 unfortunately it didn't get rid of the ERR 40.  Here
 > is the message that was sent to my
 terminal:
 > 
 > ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE
 OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
 > KEYWORDS:
 > ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR
 DATE
 > ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE
 OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
 > KEYWORDS:
 > ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR
 DATE
 > ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE
 OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
 > KEYWORDS:
 > ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR
 DATE
 > ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE
 OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
 > KEYWORDS:
 > ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR
 DATE
 > ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE
 OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
 > KEYWORDS:
 > ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR
 DATE
 > ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE
 OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
 > KEYWORDS:
 > ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR
 DATE
 > ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE
 OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
 > KEYWORDS:
 > ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR
 DATE
 > ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE
 OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
 > KEYWORDS:
 > ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR
 DATE
 > ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE
 OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
 > KEYWORDS:
 > ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR
 DATE
 > 
 > Below is a sample of the output.
 > /* ERR 40 DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613
 HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG2.I8257
 > MISSING
 > /* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 CREATE(X'0014' X'0098257F')
 > /* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 PATCH(X'002E' BITS(1.1.))
 > /* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 PATCH(X'0030' X'000100010001')
 > /* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 EXPAND(X'0040')
 > /* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 PATCH(X'0050' +
 > /*
 >
 X'404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404
 > 0404040404040')
 > /* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 PATCH(X'0050'
 >
 HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG2.I8257)
 > /* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 PATCH(X'0082' BITS(0110))
 > /* BDELETE DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 > /* MSG 914 - ERROR ON BDELETE
 COMMAND
 > /* MSG 998 - AUDIT CONTINUING, SEE
 COMMAND ACTIVITY LOG
 > /* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 DELETE
 > - END OF -     ENHANCED
 AUDIT - LISTING -
 > 
 >
 
 > On Thu, 7/27/17, Brian Fraser
 
 wrote:
 > 
 >  Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
 >  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 >  Received: Thursday, July 27,
 2017, 9:18 PM
 > 
 >  HSEND AUDIT DSCTL(BACKUP)
 FIX
 > 
 ODS('dsn.for.output.listing')
 >  is
 >  what you should run.
 > 
 > 
 >  On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 2:56
 AM, Horne, Patti  
 >  wrote:
 > 
 >  >
 >  You ran the fix on the
 BDELETE not the AUDIT.
 >  >
 >  >
 >  >
 
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Re: DFHSM QUESTION

2017-07-28 Thread Lizette Koehler
Willie

It would be helpful to include just on pair of COMMAND and RESPONSE rather than 
all of your error messages.  Without the context of what command syntax you 
entered, it is difficult to assist you.

Next.

For this message:

ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE KEYWORDS:
ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE   

It appears that when you entered the BDELETE command you did not include the 
subparm of ALL VERSIONS or DATE 

Please review this process and ensure you are entering the command according to 
the DFHSM Admin Guide

Lizette


> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of willie bunter
> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 6:33 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
> 
> Brian,
> 
> I tried your suggestion unfortunately it didn't get rid of the ERR 40.  Here
> is the message that was sent to my terminal:
> 
> ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
> KEYWORDS:
> ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE
> ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
> KEYWORDS:
> ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE
> ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
> KEYWORDS:
> ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE
> ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
> KEYWORDS:
> ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE
> ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
> KEYWORDS:
> ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE
> ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
> KEYWORDS:
> ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE
> ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
> KEYWORDS:
> ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE
> ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
> KEYWORDS:
> ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE
> ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
> KEYWORDS:
> ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE
> 
> Below is a sample of the output.
> /* ERR 40 DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613 HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG2.I8257
> MISSING
> /* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB CREATE(X'0014' X'0098257F')
> /* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'002E' BITS(1.1.))
> /* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0030' X'000100010001')
> /* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB EXPAND(X'0040')
> /* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0050' +
> /*
> X'404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404
> 0404040404040')
> /* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0050'
> HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG2.I8257)
> /* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0082' BITS(0110))
> /* BDELETE DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
> /* MSG 914 - ERROR ON BDELETE COMMAND
> /* MSG 998 - AUDIT CONTINUING, SEE COMMAND ACTIVITY LOG
> /* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB DELETE
> - END OF - ENHANCED AUDIT - LISTING -
> 
> 
> On Thu, 7/27/17, Brian Fraser  wrote:
> 
>  Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
>  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>  Received: Thursday, July 27, 2017, 9:18 PM
> 
>  HSEND AUDIT DSCTL(BACKUP) FIX
>  ODS('dsn.for.output.listing')
>  is
>  what you should run.
> 
> 
>  On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 2:56 AM, Horne, Patti  
>  wrote:
> 
>  >
>  You ran the fix on the BDELETE not the AUDIT.
>  >
>  >
>  >

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION

2017-07-28 Thread willie bunter
Brian,

I tried your suggestion unfortunately it didn't get rid of the ERR 40.  Here is 
the message that was sent to my terminal:

ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE KEYWORDS:
ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE   
ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE KEYWORDS:
ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE   
ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE KEYWORDS:
ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE   
ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE KEYWORDS:
ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE   
ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE KEYWORDS:
ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE   
ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE KEYWORDS:
ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE   
ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE KEYWORDS:
ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE   
ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE KEYWORDS:
ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE   
ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE KEYWORDS:
ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE

Below is a sample of the output.
/* ERR 40 DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613 HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG2.I8257 MISSING 
/* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB CREATE(X'0014' X'0098257F')   
/* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'002E' BITS(1.1.)) 
/* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0030' X'000100010001')
/* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB EXPAND(X'0040')   
/* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0050' +   
/* 
X'4040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040')
/* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0050' 
HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG2.I8257)
/* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0082' BITS(0110)) 
/* BDELETE DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
/* MSG 914 - ERROR ON BDELETE COMMAND   
/* MSG 998 - AUDIT CONTINUING, SEE COMMAND ACTIVITY LOG 
/* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB DELETE
- END OF - ENHANCED AUDIT - LISTING -   

----
On Thu, 7/27/17, Brian Fraser  wrote:

 Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Received: Thursday, July 27, 2017, 9:18 PM
 
 HSEND AUDIT DSCTL(BACKUP) FIX
 ODS('dsn.for.output.listing')
 is
 what you should run.
 
 
 On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 2:56 AM, Horne, Patti
 
 wrote:
 
 >
 You ran the fix on the BDELETE not the AUDIT.
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 -Original Message-
 > From: IBM
 Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On
 > Behalf Of willie bunter
 > Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 11:23 AM
 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 > Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
 >
 > I ran the FIX and the
 following messages were received :
 >
 > ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE
 FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
 >
 KEYWORDS:
 > ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL,
 VERSIONS, OR DATE
 > ARC0085I (H)BDELETE
 REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
 > KEYWORDS:
 > ARC0085I
 (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE
 > ARC0085I
 (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY
 EXCLUSIVE
 > KEYWORDS:
 > ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE
 > ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE
 FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
 >
 KEYWORDS:
 > ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL,
 VERSIONS, OR DATE
 > ARC0085I (H)BDELETE
 REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
 > KEYWORDS:
 > ARC0085I
 (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE
 > ARC0085I
 (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY
 EXCLUSIVE
 > KEYWORDS:
 > ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE
 > ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE
 FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
 >
 KEYWORDS:
 > ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL,
 VERSIONS, OR DATE
 > ARC0085I (H)BDELETE
 REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
 > KEYWORDS:
 > ARC0085I
 (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE
 >
 > Below is my command
 > 
   HSEND AUDIT DATASETCONTROLS(BACKUP) FIX -
 >         
 ODS(SYS2.AUDIT.DATASET.CONTROLS.BCDS.FIX.#2)
 >
 
 > On Thu, 7/27/17, Horne, Patti 
 wrote:
 >
 >  Subject:
 Re: DFHSM QUESTION
 >  To:

Re: DFHSM QUESTION

2017-07-28 Thread willie bunter
Brian,

I did that but it didn't clear the ERR 40 records (see below for an example of 
the message).  Thanks for the suggestion however.

/* ERR 40 DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613 HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG2.I8257 MISSING 
/* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB CREATE(X'0014' X'0098257F')   
/* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'002E' BITS(1.1.)) 
/* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0030' X'000100010001')
/* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB EXPAND(X'0040')   
/* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0050' +   
/* X'404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404
/* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0050' HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG
/* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0082' BITS(0110)) 
/* BDELETE DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
/* MSG 914 - ERROR ON BDELETE COMMAND   
/* MSG 998 - AUDIT CONTINUING, SEE COMMAND ACTIVITY LOG 
/* FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB DELETE
- END OF - ENHANCED AUDIT - LISTING -   

----
On Thu, 7/27/17, Brian Fraser  wrote:

 Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Received: Thursday, July 27, 2017, 10:31 PM
 
 If you run the audit command with
 the FIX parameter, then it should delete
 any
 orphaned C records without a matching B record.
 
 Brian
 
 On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 12:11 AM, willie bunter
 <
 001409bd2345-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>
 wrote:
 
 > Should I ignore
 the ERR 40 when I run the AUDIT report?
 >
 >
 ----
 > On Thu, 7/27/17, Lizette Koehler 
 wrote:
 >
 >  Subject:
 Re: DFHSM QUESTION
 >  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 >  Received: Thursday, July 27, 2017, 12:06
 PM
 >
 >  So is
 everything is correct
 >  now?
 >
 >  Or do you have
 more
 >  questions.
 >
 >  Otherwise I
 >  think your issues are resolved.
 >
 >  Lizette
 >
 >
 >  >
 > 
 -Original Message-
 >  > From:
 IBM
 >  Mainframe Discussion List
 [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 >  On
 >  > Behalf Of
 willie bunter
 >  > Sent: Thursday,
 July 27, 2017 8:58 AM
 >  > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 >  > Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
 >  >
 >  > I tried
 out the
 >  BDELETE and as expected the
 record was not found.
 >  >
 >  > ARC0195I TYPE B, KEY
 >  DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613, FIXCDS DELETE,
 ERROR=RECORD NOT
 >  > ARC0195I
 (CONT.) FOUND
 >  > ARC1001I FIXCDS B
 DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613
 >  DELETE COMMAND
 FAILED, RC=0015,
 >  >
 >  ARC1001I (CONT.) REAS=
 >  > ARC1615I
 > 
 FIXCDS COMMAND REJECTED
 >  >
 >  > Below is the HLIST:
 >  >
 >  ARC0138I NO
 BCDS INFORMATION FOUND FOR DATASET
 > 
 DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613
 >  >
 > 
 
 >  > On Thu, 7/27/17, Lizette Koehler
 
 >  wrote:
 >  >
 >  >  Subject:
 > 
 Re: DFHSM QUESTION
 >  >  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 >  >  Received: Thursday, July 27,
 2017, 10:52
 >  AM
 > 
 >
 >  >  At this
 >  point, just take one step
 >  >  back.
 > 
 >
 >  >  You wanted to
 >  delete
 >  >  a
 backup version from HSM.
 >  >
 >  >  The dataset is
 >  either DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613  or
 >  DB96.ARCHLOG2.B778
 >  >
 >  >  Issue
 an HLIST
 >  >
 > 
 DSN('DB96.ARCHLOG2.B778') BCDS    or 
 HLIST
 > 
 DSN('DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613
 >  >
 ')
 >  BCDS
 > 
 >
 >  >
 > 
 >  If you do not
 >  >  see
 >  any backup datasets listed for these
 datasets, then you
 >  have deleted
 >  > the backup copies.
 >  >
 >  >  If
 you still see
 >  BCDS entries, then you
 may  need to do more BDELETE
 >  >
 commands.
 >  >
 > 
 >  AUDIT is used to verify content in
 >  HSM.  However, it may create
 confusion
 >  >
 > 
 with its results.
 >  >
 >  >  I rarely use AUDIT.  If the
 >  >  BDELETE works or there are no
 longer any
 >  BCDS entries, I  will not
 issue
 >  > AUDIT
 >  commands.
 >  >
 >  >
 >  >  If
 you could provide the
 >  > 
 description of the problem you are
 > 
 trying to solve with  BDELETE and AUDIT,
 >  > that will be helpful.
 >  >
 >
 >  >  From what you have posted so
 far,
 >  the BDELETE  looks like it was
 successful
 >  > at some point.
 >  >
 > 

Re: DFHSM QUESTION

2017-07-27 Thread Brian Fraser
If you run the audit command with the FIX parameter, then it should delete
any orphaned C records without a matching B record.

Brian

On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 12:11 AM, willie bunter <
001409bd2345-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> Should I ignore the ERR 40 when I run the AUDIT report?
>
> 
> On Thu, 7/27/17, Lizette Koehler  wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
>  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>  Received: Thursday, July 27, 2017, 12:06 PM
>
>  So is everything is correct
>  now?
>
>  Or do you have more
>  questions.
>
>  Otherwise I
>  think your issues are resolved.
>
>  Lizette
>
>
>  >
>  -Original Message-
>  > From: IBM
>  Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
>  On
>  > Behalf Of willie bunter
>  > Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 8:58 AM
>  > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>  > Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
>  >
>  > I tried out the
>  BDELETE and as expected the record was not found.
>  >
>  > ARC0195I TYPE B, KEY
>  DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613, FIXCDS DELETE, ERROR=RECORD NOT
>  > ARC0195I (CONT.) FOUND
>  > ARC1001I FIXCDS B DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613
>  DELETE COMMAND FAILED, RC=0015,
>  >
>  ARC1001I (CONT.) REAS=
>  > ARC1615I
>  FIXCDS COMMAND REJECTED
>  >
>  > Below is the HLIST:
>  >
>  ARC0138I NO BCDS INFORMATION FOUND FOR DATASET
>  DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613
>  >
>  
>  > On Thu, 7/27/17, Lizette Koehler 
>  wrote:
>  >
>  >  Subject:
>  Re: DFHSM QUESTION
>  >  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>  >  Received: Thursday, July 27, 2017, 10:52
>  AM
>  >
>  >  At this
>  point, just take one step
>  >  back.
>  >
>  >  You wanted to
>  delete
>  >  a backup version from HSM.
>  >
>  >  The dataset is
>  either DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613  or
>  DB96.ARCHLOG2.B778
>  >
>  >  Issue an HLIST
>  >
>  DSN('DB96.ARCHLOG2.B778') BCDSor  HLIST
>  DSN('DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613
>  > ')
>  BCDS
>  >
>  >
>  >  If you do not
>  >  see
>  any backup datasets listed for these datasets, then you
>  have deleted
>  > the backup copies.
>  >
>  >  If you still see
>  BCDS entries, then you may  need to do more BDELETE
>  > commands.
>  >
>  >  AUDIT is used to verify content in
>  HSM.  However, it may create confusion
>  >
>  with its results.
>  >
>  >  I rarely use AUDIT.  If the
>  >  BDELETE works or there are no longer any
>  BCDS entries, I  will not issue
>  > AUDIT
>  commands.
>  >
>  >
>  >  If you could provide the
>  >  description of the problem you are
>  trying to solve with  BDELETE and AUDIT,
>  > that will be helpful.
>  >
>
>  >  From what you have posted so far,
>  the BDELETE  looks like it was successful
>  > at some point.
>  >
>  >
>  >  For further
>  >  analysis, issue the command
> BACKDS  'DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613'
>  >
>  >  Then do the
>  HLIST
>  >
>  DSN('DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613') BCDS   and see if
>  you  get an entry
>  >
>  >
>  >  Next do the
>  BDELETE command for
>  >
>  DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613
>  >
>  >
>  >  Repeat the HLIST
>  command.
>  >
>  >
>  >  If there are
>  >  no
>  entries in the BCDS for this dataset, that should show  the
>  process in
>  > HSM is working.
>  >
>  >
>  >  Lizette
>  >
>  >
>  >  >
>  -Original
>  >  Message-
>  >  > From: IBM Mainframe
>  >  Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
>  On  > Behalf Of willie
>  > bunter
>  >
>  >  Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017
>  6:53 AM
>  >  >
>  >
>  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>  >  > Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
>  >  >
>  >  > Here
>  are the
>  >  commands I tried :
>  >  >  HSEND FIXCDS B
>  >  DB96.ARCHLOG2.B778 (message
>  received) :
>  >  >
>  >  > ARC0195I TYPE B, KEY
>  >  DB96.ARCHLOG2.B778, FIXCDS DISPLAY,
>  ERROR=RECORD NOT  > ARC0195I (CONT.)
>  > FOUND  > ARC1001I FIXCDS B
>  DB96.ARCHLOG2.B778  COMMAND FAILED, RC=0015,
>  > REAS=  >  ARC1615I FIXCDS COMMAND
>  REJECTED  >  > HSEND  BDELETE
>  >
>  'DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613' ALL No error message
>  received.
>  >  >
>  >
>  > I
>  >  looked at

Re: DFHSM QUESTION

2017-07-27 Thread willie bunter
Should I ignore the ERR 40 when I run the AUDIT report?  


On Thu, 7/27/17, Lizette Koehler  wrote:

 Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Received: Thursday, July 27, 2017, 12:06 PM
 
 So is everything is correct
 now?
 
 Or do you have more
 questions.
 
 Otherwise I
 think your issues are resolved.
 
 Lizette
 
 
 >
 -Original Message-
 > From: IBM
 Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On
 > Behalf Of willie bunter
 > Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 8:58 AM
 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 > Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
 > 
 > I tried out the
 BDELETE and as expected the record was not found.
 > 
 > ARC0195I TYPE B, KEY
 DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613, FIXCDS DELETE, ERROR=RECORD NOT
 > ARC0195I (CONT.) FOUND
 > ARC1001I FIXCDS B DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613
 DELETE COMMAND FAILED, RC=0015,
 >
 ARC1001I (CONT.) REAS=
 > ARC1615I
 FIXCDS COMMAND REJECTED
 > 
 > Below is the HLIST:
 >
 ARC0138I NO BCDS INFORMATION FOUND FOR DATASET
 DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613
 >
 
 > On Thu, 7/27/17, Lizette Koehler 
 wrote:
 > 
 >  Subject:
 Re: DFHSM QUESTION
 >  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 >  Received: Thursday, July 27, 2017, 10:52
 AM
 > 
 >  At this
 point, just take one step
 >  back.
 > 
 >  You wanted to
 delete
 >  a backup version from HSM.
 > 
 >  The dataset is
 either DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613  or 
 DB96.ARCHLOG2.B778
 > 
 >  Issue an HLIST
 > 
 DSN('DB96.ARCHLOG2.B778') BCDS    or  HLIST
 DSN('DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613
 > ')
 BCDS
 > 
 > 
 >  If you do not
 >  see
 any backup datasets listed for these datasets, then you 
 have deleted
 > the backup copies.
 > 
 >  If you still see
 BCDS entries, then you may  need to do more BDELETE
 > commands.
 > 
 >  AUDIT is used to verify content in
 HSM.  However, it may create confusion
 >
 with its results.
 > 
 >  I rarely use AUDIT.  If the
 >  BDELETE works or there are no longer any
 BCDS entries, I  will not issue
 > AUDIT
 commands.
 > 
 > 
 >  If you could provide the
 >  description of the problem you are
 trying to solve with  BDELETE and AUDIT,
 > that will be helpful.
 >
 
 >  From what you have posted so far,
 the BDELETE  looks like it was successful
 > at some point.
 > 
 > 
 >  For further
 >  analysis, issue the command       
    BACKDS  'DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613'
 > 
 >  Then do the
 HLIST
 > 
 DSN('DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613') BCDS   and see if
 you  get an entry
 > 
 > 
 >  Next do the
 BDELETE command for
 > 
 DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613
 > 
 > 
 >  Repeat the HLIST
 command.
 > 
 > 
 >  If there are
 >  no
 entries in the BCDS for this dataset, that should show  the
 process in
 > HSM is working.
 > 
 > 
 >  Lizette
 > 
 > 
 >  >
 -Original
 >  Message-
 >  > From: IBM Mainframe
 >  Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
 On  > Behalf Of willie
 > bunter 
 >
 >  Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017
 6:53 AM
 >  >
 > 
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 >  > Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
 >  >
 >  > Here
 are the
 >  commands I tried :
 >  >  HSEND FIXCDS B
 >  DB96.ARCHLOG2.B778 (message
 received) :
 >  >
 >  > ARC0195I TYPE B, KEY
 >  DB96.ARCHLOG2.B778, FIXCDS DISPLAY,
 ERROR=RECORD NOT  > ARC0195I (CONT.)
 > FOUND  > ARC1001I FIXCDS B
 DB96.ARCHLOG2.B778  COMMAND FAILED, RC=0015,
 > REAS=  >  ARC1615I FIXCDS COMMAND
 REJECTED  >  > HSEND  BDELETE
 >
 'DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613' ALL No error message 
 received.
 >  >
 > 
 > I
 >  looked at the ERR 40  in the
 doc.  It describes my problem  however it is  >
 > not clear what I should  do.  In this
 case the B record does not exist or  >
 > missing.
 >  > for
 example
 >  it says "If the backup
 version (C) record references a  data set  > (B)
 > record that does not  exist, then a new
 (B) record is created and the  >
 >
 version added".  Not  usre ...then  a new(B) record
 is created and the
 > version  >
 added.
 >  >
 > 
 > I do not understand this.  Any
 > 
 suggestions?
 >  >
 > 
 
 >  > On Wed, 7/26/17, retired mainframer
 
 >  wrote:
 >  >
 >  >  Subject:
 > 
 Re: DFHSM QUESTION
 >  >  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 >  >  Received: Wednesday, July 26,
 2017, 1:30  PM  >  >  Please show  the
 > complete AUDIT  >  and BDELETE 
 commands you are using.
 >  >
 >  >  Did you look up ERR40 in the
 "Error
 >  Codes  and
 Diagnosis" section (section 3  > in my co

Re: DFHSM QUESTION

2017-07-27 Thread Brian Fraser
HSEND AUDIT DSCTL(BACKUP) FIX ODS('dsn.for.output.listing')
is what you should run.


On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 2:56 AM, Horne, Patti 
wrote:

> You ran the fix on the BDELETE not the AUDIT.
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of willie bunter
> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 11:23 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
>
> I ran the FIX and the following messages were received :
>
> ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
> KEYWORDS:
> ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE
> ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
> KEYWORDS:
> ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE
> ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
> KEYWORDS:
> ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE
> ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
> KEYWORDS:
> ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE
> ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
> KEYWORDS:
> ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE
> ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
> KEYWORDS:
> ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE
> ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
> KEYWORDS:
> ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE
> ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE
> KEYWORDS:
> ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE
>
> Below is my command
>HSEND AUDIT DATASETCONTROLS(BACKUP) FIX -
>  ODS(SYS2.AUDIT.DATASET.CONTROLS.BCDS.FIX.#2)
> 
> On Thu, 7/27/17, Horne, Patti  wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
>  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>  Received: Thursday, July 27, 2017, 11:42 AM
>
>  Try using FIX on your audit to
>  see if it cleans up the error.
>
>
>
>  -Original
>  Message-
>  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion
>  List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
>  On Behalf Of willie bunter
>  Sent: Thursday,
>  July 27, 2017 10:36 AM
>  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>  Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
>
>  Lizette,
>
>
>   The reason why I think that it is a problem because after I  run the
> AUDIT using NOFIX the output shows the dsn (*err  40).  I do not see this
> for other LPARS.
>  My
>  understanding is that if any errors appear a clean up is  needed to be
> initiated.  In this case only ERR 40  appears.
>  
>
>  On Thu, 7/27/17, Lizette
>  Koehler 
>  wrote:
>
>   Subject: Re: DFHSM
>  QUESTION
>   To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>   Received: Thursday, July 27, 2017, 10:22 AM
>
>   That does not seem to be a
>   failure.
>
>   It
>  just states the
>   record you tried to delete
>  no longer exists in HSM.  Once  the record is deleted, it  cannot be
> deleted again.
>
>
>  Why do you think this is a
>   failure?
>
>   The message
>
>  ARC0195I is all you need to focus on.  The ARC1001 or  ARC1615I just
> states the command could not do any work.
>
>
>
>
>   Lizette
>
>
>   >
>
>  -Original Message-
>   > From:
>  IBM
>   Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]  On  >
> Behalf Of willie bunter  > Sent: Thursday,  July 27, 2017 6:32 AM  > To:
> IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU  > Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION  >  > Brian,  >
> > I tried that out  however it didn't work  (record not found).  Below is
> the  > output:
>   >
>   > ARC0195I TYPE B,
>  KEY
>   DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613, FIXCDS DELETE,
>  ERROR=RECORD NOT  > ARC0195I (CONT.) FOUND  >  ARC1001I FIXCDS B
> DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613  DELETE COMMAND  FAILED, RC=0015,  >  ARC1001I
> (CONT.) REAS=  >  ARC1615I  FIXCDS COMMAND REJECTED  >
>
>  
>   > On Wed, 7/26/17, Brian Fraser 
>   wrote:
>   >
>
>  >  Subject:
>   Re: DFHSM QUESTION
>   >  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>   >  Received: Wednesday, July 26, 2017,
>  9:23  PM  >  >  If you just  want to get rid of  >  the backup, then  you
> can do the following.
>   >
>   >  HSEND FIXCDS B
>   >
>   DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613
>  *DELETE*
>   >
>   >
>  Regards
>   >  Brian
>
>  >
>   >  On Thu, Jul 27,
>   2017 at 1:30
>   >  AM,
>  retired mainframer
>   <
>
>  >  retired-mainfra...@q.com>
>   >  wrote:
>   >
>   >  > Please show the
>
>  >  complete AUDIT and BDELETE commands you  are

Re: DFHSM QUESTION

2017-07-27 Thread Horne, Patti
You ran the fix on the BDELETE not the AUDIT.




-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of willie bunter
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 11:23 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION

I ran the FIX and the following messages were received :

ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE KEYWORDS:
ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE
ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE KEYWORDS:
ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE
ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE KEYWORDS:
ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE
ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE KEYWORDS:
ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE
ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE KEYWORDS:
ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE
ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE KEYWORDS:
ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE
ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE KEYWORDS:
ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE
ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE KEYWORDS:
ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE

Below is my command
   HSEND AUDIT DATASETCONTROLS(BACKUP) FIX -
 ODS(SYS2.AUDIT.DATASET.CONTROLS.BCDS.FIX.#2)

On Thu, 7/27/17, Horne, Patti  wrote:

 Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Received: Thursday, July 27, 2017, 11:42 AM

 Try using FIX on your audit to
 see if it cleans up the error.



 -Original
 Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion
 List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On Behalf Of willie bunter
 Sent: Thursday,
 July 27, 2017 10:36 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION

 Lizette,


  The reason why I think that it is a problem because after I  run the AUDIT 
using NOFIX the output shows the dsn (*err  40).  I do not see this for other 
LPARS.
 My
 understanding is that if any errors appear a clean up is  needed to be 
initiated.  In this case only ERR 40  appears.
 

 On Thu, 7/27/17, Lizette
 Koehler 
 wrote:

  Subject: Re: DFHSM
 QUESTION
  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  Received: Thursday, July 27, 2017, 10:22 AM

  That does not seem to be a
  failure.

  It
 just states the
  record you tried to delete
 no longer exists in HSM.  Once  the record is deleted, it  cannot be deleted 
again.


 Why do you think this is a
  failure?

  The message

 ARC0195I is all you need to focus on.  The ARC1001 or  ARC1615I just states 
the command could not do any work.




  Lizette


  >

 -Original Message-
  > From:
 IBM
  Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]  On  > Behalf Of 
willie bunter  > Sent: Thursday,  July 27, 2017 6:32 AM  > To: 
IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU  > Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION  >  > Brian,  >  > I 
tried that out  however it didn't work  (record not found).  Below is  the  > 
output:
  >
  > ARC0195I TYPE B,
 KEY
  DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613, FIXCDS DELETE,
 ERROR=RECORD NOT  > ARC0195I (CONT.) FOUND  >  ARC1001I FIXCDS B 
DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613  DELETE COMMAND  FAILED, RC=0015,  >  ARC1001I (CONT.) 
REAS=  >  ARC1615I  FIXCDS COMMAND REJECTED  >

 
  > On Wed, 7/26/17, Brian Fraser 
  wrote:
  >

 >  Subject:
  Re: DFHSM QUESTION
  >  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  >  Received: Wednesday, July 26, 2017,
 9:23  PM  >  >  If you just  want to get rid of  >  the backup, then  you can 
do the following.
  >
  >  HSEND FIXCDS B
  >
  DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613
 *DELETE*
  >
  >
 Regards
  >  Brian

 >
  >  On Thu, Jul 27,
  2017 at 1:30
  >  AM,
 retired mainframer
  <

 >  retired-mainfra...@q.com>
  >  wrote:
  >
  >  > Please show the

 >  complete AUDIT and BDELETE commands you  are  using.
  >  >
  >
 > Did you look up ERR40
  >  in the
 "Error Codes and
  Diagnosis"
 section  (section  > 3 in my copy) of  the  >  "Using the AUDIT Command"
  chapter
 (my chapter  67)?
  >  > The
  table (51) identifies several

 >
  possible causes and corrective
 actions.
  >  >

 >  BDELETE is
  the proper action for
 only one of the causes.
  >  >
  >  > >

 -Original
  >  Message-
  >  > > From: IBM Mainframe
  >  Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]  On  > > Behalf Of 
willie  >  bunter  > >
 Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 7:27  AM  > > To:
 IBM-  > m...@listserv.ua.edu
 > > Subject: DFHSM QUESTION  > >  > >
 Good  Day,  > >  > > > I  ran an AUDIT of  the BCDS.  I was 99% successfull of 
 performing a  >

Re: DFHSM QUESTION

2017-07-27 Thread willie bunter
I understand that the record doesn't exist.  However my question is how do I 
perform the clean up of the ERR 40 records?

On Thu, 7/27/17, Carmen Vitullo  wrote:

 Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Received: Thursday, July 27, 2017, 10:38 AM
 
 I think it's time to list the
 contents of the BCDS, I don't have HSM so I can't
 provide the correct command, 
 
 
 HSEND LIST LEVEL(DB96) BCDS or
 (BACKUPCONTROLDATASET) OUTDATASET(xxx.yyy.xxx) ?? 
 
 but I tent to agree with
 Lizette, the record in the BCDS does not exist 
 
 
     *
 RECORD NOT FOUND—The indicated record was not found; you
 could not delete or update it. 
 
 
 Carmen - Original Message
 -
 
 From: "willie
 bunter" <001409bd2345-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>
 
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 
 Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 8:52:37 AM
 
 Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION 
 
 Here are the commands I tried
 : 
 HSEND FIXCDS B DB96.ARCHLOG2.B778
 (message received) : 
 
 ARC0195I TYPE B, KEY DB96.ARCHLOG2.B778,
 FIXCDS DISPLAY, ERROR=RECORD NOT 
 ARC0195I
 (CONT.) FOUND 
 ARC1001I FIXCDS B
 DB96.ARCHLOG2.B778 COMMAND FAILED, RC=0015, REAS=
 
 ARC1615I FIXCDS COMMAND REJECTED 
 
 HSEND BDELETE
 'DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613' ALL 
 No
 error message received. 
 
 I
 looked at the ERR 40 in the doc. It describes my problem
 however it is not clear what I should do. In this case the B
 record does not exist or missing. 
 for
 example it says "If the backup version (C) record
 references a data set (B) record that does not exist, then a
 new (B) record is created and the version added". Not
 usre ...then a new(B) record is created and the version
 added. 
 
 I do not understand
 this. Any suggestions? 
 
 
 On Wed, 7/26/17, retired mainframer 
 wrote: 
 
 Subject: Re: DFHSM
 QUESTION 
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 
 Received: Wednesday, July 26, 2017, 1:30 PM
 
 
 Please show the complete
 AUDIT 
 and BDELETE commands you are using.
 
 
 Did you look up ERR40 in
 the "Error Codes 
 and Diagnosis"
 section (section 3 in my copy) of the 
 "Using the AUDIT Command" chapter (my
 chapter 
 67)? The table (51) identifies
 several possible causes and 
 corrective
 actions. BDELETE is the proper action for only 
 one of the causes. 
 
 > 
 -Original
 Message- 
 > From: IBM 
 Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 
 On 
 > Behalf Of willie
 bunter 
 > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017
 7:27 AM 
 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 
 > Subject: DFHSM QUESTION 
 > 
 > Good Day, 
 > 
 > I ran an AUDIT of
 
 the BCDS. I was 99% successfull of
 performing a clean up 
 execept for 
 > the following type dsns: 
 > ERR 40 DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613 
 > HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG2.I8257
 
 MISSING 
 > FIXCDS B
 DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB 
 CREATE(X'0014' X'0098257F')
 
 > FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB 
 PATCH(X'002E' BITS(1.1.)) 
 > FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB 
 PATCH(X'0030'
 X'000100010001') 
 > FIXCDS B
 DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB 
 EXPAND(X'0040') 
 > FIXCDS B 
 DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0050' +
 
 > 
 > 
 X'404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040
 
 > 404 
 > FIXCDS B 
 DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0050' 
 > HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG 
 > FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB 
 PATCH(X'0082' BITS(0110)) 
 > BDELETE DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB 
 > FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB DELETE 
 > END OF - ENHANCED AUDIT - LISTING 
 - 
 > 
 > I
 tried a HSEND 
 BDELETE
 'DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613' ALL . The command 
 which I 
 > ran in batch was
 successful 
 however when I ran another AUDIT
 the entry appears. I 
 tried a 
 > HSEND FIXCDS B 
 DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613. Again the command was
 
 successful, 
 > however
 the AUDIT says 
 otherwise. 
 
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Re: DFHSM QUESTION

2017-07-27 Thread willie bunter
I ran the FIX and the following messages were received :

ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE KEYWORDS:
ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE   
ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE KEYWORDS:
ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE   
ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE KEYWORDS:
ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE   
ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE KEYWORDS:
ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE   
ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE KEYWORDS:
ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE   
ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE KEYWORDS:
ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE   
ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE KEYWORDS:
ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE   
ARC0085I (H)BDELETE REQUIRES ONE OF THE FOLLOWING MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE KEYWORDS:
ARC0085I (CONT.) ALL, VERSIONS, OR DATE 

Below is my command
   HSEND AUDIT DATASETCONTROLS(BACKUP) FIX -   
 ODS(SYS2.AUDIT.DATASET.CONTROLS.BCDS.FIX.#2)  

On Thu, 7/27/17, Horne, Patti  wrote:

 Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Received: Thursday, July 27, 2017, 11:42 AM
 
 Try using FIX on your audit to
 see if it cleans up the error.
 
 
 
 -Original
 Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion
 List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On Behalf Of willie bunter
 Sent: Thursday,
 July 27, 2017 10:36 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
 
 Lizette,
 
    
  The reason why I think that it is a problem because after I
 run the AUDIT using NOFIX the output shows the dsn (*err
 40).  I do not see this for other LPARS.
 My
 understanding is that if any errors appear a clean up is
 needed to be initiated.  In this case only ERR 40
 appears.
 
 
 On Thu, 7/27/17, Lizette
 Koehler 
 wrote:
 
  Subject: Re: DFHSM
 QUESTION
  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  Received: Thursday, July 27, 2017, 10:22 AM
 
  That does not seem to be a
  failure.
 
  It
 just states the
  record you tried to delete
 no longer exists in HSM.  Once  the record is deleted, it
 cannot be deleted again.
 
 
 Why do you think this is a
  failure?
 
  The message
 
 ARC0195I is all you need to focus on.  The ARC1001 or 
 ARC1615I just states the command could not do any work.
 
 
 
 
  Lizette
 
 
  >
 
 -Original Message-
  > From:
 IBM
  Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
 On  > Behalf Of willie bunter  > Sent: Thursday,
 July 27, 2017 6:32 AM  > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
 > Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION  >  > Brian, 
 >  > I tried that out  however it didn't work
 (record not found).  Below is  the  > output:
  >
  > ARC0195I TYPE B,
 KEY
  DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613, FIXCDS DELETE,
 ERROR=RECORD NOT  > ARC0195I (CONT.) FOUND  >
 ARC1001I FIXCDS B DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613  DELETE COMMAND
 FAILED, RC=0015,  >  ARC1001I (CONT.) REAS=  >
 ARC1615I  FIXCDS COMMAND REJECTED  >
 
 
  > On Wed, 7/26/17, Brian Fraser 
  wrote:
  >
 
 >  Subject:
  Re: DFHSM QUESTION
  >  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  >  Received: Wednesday, July 26, 2017,
 9:23  PM  >  >  If you just  want to get rid of 
 >  the backup, then  you can do the following.
  >
  >  HSEND FIXCDS B
  >
  DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613
 *DELETE*
  >
  > 
 Regards
  >  Brian
 
 >
  >  On Thu, Jul 27,
  2017 at 1:30
  >  AM,
 retired mainframer
  <
 
 >  retired-mainfra...@q.com>
  >  wrote:
  >
  >  > Please show the
 
 >  complete AUDIT and BDELETE commands you  are
 using.
  >  >
  > 
 > Did you look up ERR40
  >  in the
 "Error Codes and
  Diagnosis"
 section  (section  > 3 in my copy) of  the  >
 "Using the AUDIT Command"
  chapter
 (my chapter  67)?
  >  > The
  table (51) identifies several
 
 >
  possible causes and corrective
 actions.
  >  >
 
 >  BDELETE is
  the proper action for
 only one of the causes.
  >  >
  >  > >
 
 -Original
  >  Message-
  >  > > From: IBM Mainframe
  >  Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
 On  > > Behalf Of willie  >  bunter  > >
 Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 7:27  AM  > > To:
 IBM-  > m...@listserv.ua.edu 
 > > Subject: DFHSM QUESTION  > >  > > 
 Good  Day,  > >  > > &

Re: DFHSM QUESTION

2017-07-27 Thread Lizette Koehler
So is everything is correct now?

Or do you have more questions.

Otherwise I think your issues are resolved.

Lizette


> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of willie bunter
> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 8:58 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
> 
> I tried out the BDELETE and as expected the record was not found.
> 
> ARC0195I TYPE B, KEY DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613, FIXCDS DELETE, ERROR=RECORD NOT
> ARC0195I (CONT.) FOUND
> ARC1001I FIXCDS B DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613 DELETE COMMAND FAILED, RC=0015,
> ARC1001I (CONT.) REAS=
> ARC1615I FIXCDS COMMAND REJECTED
> 
> Below is the HLIST:
> ARC0138I NO BCDS INFORMATION FOUND FOR DATASET DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613
> 
> On Thu, 7/27/17, Lizette Koehler  wrote:
> 
>  Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
>  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>  Received: Thursday, July 27, 2017, 10:52 AM
> 
>  At this point, just take one step
>  back.
> 
>  You wanted to delete
>  a backup version from HSM.
> 
>  The dataset is either DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613  or  DB96.ARCHLOG2.B778
> 
>  Issue an HLIST
>  DSN('DB96.ARCHLOG2.B778') BCDSor  HLIST DSN('DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613
> ') BCDS
> 
> 
>  If you do not
>  see any backup datasets listed for these datasets, then you  have deleted
> the backup copies.
> 
>  If you still see BCDS entries, then you may  need to do more BDELETE
> commands.
> 
>  AUDIT is used to verify content in HSM.  However, it may create confusion
> with its results.
> 
>  I rarely use AUDIT.  If the
>  BDELETE works or there are no longer any BCDS entries, I  will not issue
> AUDIT commands.
> 
> 
>  If you could provide the
>  description of the problem you are trying to solve with  BDELETE and AUDIT,
> that will be helpful.
> 
>  From what you have posted so far, the BDELETE  looks like it was successful
> at some point.
> 
> 
>  For further
>  analysis, issue the command   BACKDS  'DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613'
> 
>  Then do the HLIST
>  DSN('DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613') BCDS   and see if you  get an entry
> 
> 
>  Next do the BDELETE command for
>  DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613
> 
> 
>  Repeat the HLIST command.
> 
> 
>  If there are
>  no entries in the BCDS for this dataset, that should show  the process in
> HSM is working.
> 
> 
>  Lizette
> 
> 
>  > -Original
>  Message-
>  > From: IBM Mainframe
>  Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]  On  > Behalf Of willie
> bunter  >
>  Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 6:53 AM
>  >
>  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>  > Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
>  >
>  > Here are the
>  commands I tried :
>  >  HSEND FIXCDS B
>  DB96.ARCHLOG2.B778 (message received) :
>  >
>  > ARC0195I TYPE B, KEY
>  DB96.ARCHLOG2.B778, FIXCDS DISPLAY, ERROR=RECORD NOT  > ARC0195I (CONT.)
> FOUND  > ARC1001I FIXCDS B DB96.ARCHLOG2.B778  COMMAND FAILED, RC=0015,
> REAS=  >  ARC1615I FIXCDS COMMAND REJECTED  >  > HSEND  BDELETE
> 'DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613' ALL No error message  received.
>  >
>  > I
>  looked at the ERR 40  in the doc.  It describes my problem  however it is  >
> not clear what I should  do.  In this case the B record does not exist or  >
> missing.
>  > for example
>  it says "If the backup version (C) record references a  data set  > (B)
> record that does not  exist, then a new (B) record is created and the  >
> version added".  Not  usre ...then  a new(B) record is created and the
> version  > added.
>  >
>  > I do not understand this.  Any
>  suggestions?
>  >
>  
>  > On Wed, 7/26/17, retired mainframer 
>  wrote:
>  >
>  >  Subject:
>  Re: DFHSM QUESTION
>  >  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>  >  Received: Wednesday, July 26, 2017, 1:30  PM  >  >  Please show  the
> complete AUDIT  >  and BDELETE  commands you are using.
>  >
>  >  Did you look up ERR40 in the "Error
>  Codes  and Diagnosis" section (section 3  > in my copy) of the  "Using the
> AUDIT  Command" chapter (my chapter  67)?  The  > table (51) identifies
> several possible  causes and  corrective  > actions.  BDELETE is the proper
> action for only  one of the  causes.
>  >
>  >  >
>  >  -Original Message-
>  >  > From: IBM
>  >
>  Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]  On  > Behalf Of
> > willie bunter  &g

Re: DFHSM QUESTION

2017-07-27 Thread willie bunter
I tried out the BDELETE and as expected the record was not found.

ARC0195I TYPE B, KEY DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613, FIXCDS DELETE, ERROR=RECORD NOT 
ARC0195I (CONT.) FOUND  
ARC1001I FIXCDS B DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613 DELETE COMMAND FAILED, RC=0015, 
ARC1001I (CONT.) REAS=  
ARC1615I FIXCDS COMMAND REJECTED   

Below is the HLIST:
ARC0138I NO BCDS INFORMATION FOUND FOR DATASET DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613
 

On Thu, 7/27/17, Lizette Koehler  wrote:

 Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Received: Thursday, July 27, 2017, 10:52 AM
 
 At this point, just take one step
 back.
 
 You wanted to delete
 a backup version from HSM.
 
 The dataset is either DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613 
 or  DB96.ARCHLOG2.B778
 
 Issue an HLIST
 DSN('DB96.ARCHLOG2.B778') BCDS    or    
 HLIST DSN('DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613 ') BCDS
 
 
 If you do not
 see any backup datasets listed for these datasets, then you
 have deleted the backup copies.
 
 If you still see BCDS entries, then you may
 need to do more BDELETE commands.
 
 AUDIT is used to verify content in HSM. 
 However, it may create confusion with its results.
 
 I rarely use AUDIT.  If the
 BDELETE works or there are no longer any BCDS entries, I
 will not issue AUDIT commands.
 
 
 If you could provide the
 description of the problem you are trying to solve with
 BDELETE and AUDIT, that will be helpful.
 
 From what you have posted so far, the BDELETE
 looks like it was successful at some point.
 
 
 For further
 analysis, issue the command           BACKDS
 'DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613'     
 
 Then do the HLIST
 DSN('DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613') BCDS   and see if you
 get an entry
 
 
 Next do the BDELETE command for
 DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613  
 
 
 Repeat the HLIST command.
 
 
 If there are
 no entries in the BCDS for this dataset, that should show
 the process in HSM is working.
 
 
 Lizette
 
   
 > -Original
 Message-
 > From: IBM Mainframe
 Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On
 > Behalf Of willie bunter
 >
 Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 6:53 AM
 >
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 > Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
 > 
 > Here are the
 commands I tried :
 >  HSEND FIXCDS B
 DB96.ARCHLOG2.B778 (message received) :
 > 
 > ARC0195I TYPE B, KEY
 DB96.ARCHLOG2.B778, FIXCDS DISPLAY, ERROR=RECORD NOT
 > ARC0195I (CONT.) FOUND
 > ARC1001I FIXCDS B DB96.ARCHLOG2.B778
 COMMAND FAILED, RC=0015, REAS=
 >
 ARC1615I FIXCDS COMMAND REJECTED
 > 
 > HSEND  BDELETE
 'DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613' ALL No error message
 received.
 > 
 > I
 looked at the ERR 40  in the doc.  It describes my problem
 however it is
 > not clear what I should
 do.  In this case the B record does not exist or
 > missing.
 > for example
 it says "If the backup version (C) record references a
 data set
 > (B) record that does not
 exist, then a new (B) record is created and the
 > version added".  Not  usre ...then
 a new(B) record is created and the version
 > added.
 > 
 > I do not understand this.  Any
 suggestions?
 >
 
 > On Wed, 7/26/17, retired mainframer 
 wrote:
 > 
 >  Subject:
 Re: DFHSM QUESTION
 >  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 >  Received: Wednesday, July 26, 2017, 1:30
 PM
 > 
 >  Please show
 the complete AUDIT
 >  and BDELETE
 commands you are using.
 > 
 >  Did you look up ERR40 in the "Error
 Codes  and Diagnosis" section (section 3
 > in my copy) of the  "Using the AUDIT
 Command" chapter (my chapter  67)?  The
 > table (51) identifies several possible
 causes and  corrective
 > actions. 
 BDELETE is the proper action for only  one of the
 causes.
 > 
 >  >
 >  -Original Message-----
 >  > From: IBM
 > 
 Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
 On  > Behalf Of
 > willie bunter 
 > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 7:27 AM  > To:
 IBM-
 > m...@listserv.ua.edu 
 > Subject: DFHSM QUESTION  >  > Good Day, 
 >  > I ran
 > an AUDIT of  the
 BCDS.  I was 99% successfull of performing a clean up
 > execept for  > the following type
 dsns:
 >  >  ERR 40
 DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613
 >  >
 HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG2.I8257
 >  MISSING
 >  > 
 FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 > 
 CREATE(X'0014' X'0098257F')
 >  >  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 >  PATCH(X'002E'
 BITS(1.1.))
 >  >  FIXCDS B
 DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 > 
 PATCH(X'0030' X'000100010001')
 >  >  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 >  EXPAND(X'0040')
 >  >  FIXCDS B
 > 
 DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB P

Re: DFHSM QUESTION

2017-07-27 Thread Horne, Patti
Try using FIX on your audit to see if it cleans up the error.



-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of willie bunter
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 10:36 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION

Lizette,

 The reason why I think that it is a problem because after I run the AUDIT 
using NOFIX the output shows the dsn (*err 40).  I do not see this for other 
LPARS.
My understanding is that if any errors appear a clean up is needed to be 
initiated.  In this case only ERR 40 appears.


On Thu, 7/27/17, Lizette Koehler  wrote:

 Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Received: Thursday, July 27, 2017, 10:22 AM

 That does not seem to be a
 failure.

 It just states the
 record you tried to delete no longer exists in HSM.  Once  the record is 
deleted, it cannot be deleted again.

 Why do you think this is a
 failure?

 The message
 ARC0195I is all you need to focus on.  The ARC1001 or  ARC1615I just states 
the command could not do any work.




 Lizette


 >
 -Original Message-
 > From: IBM
 Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]  On  > Behalf Of 
willie bunter  > Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 6:32 AM  > To: 
IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU  > Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION  >  > Brian,  >  > I 
tried that out  however it didn't work (record not found).  Below is  the  > 
output:
 >
 > ARC0195I TYPE B, KEY
 DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613, FIXCDS DELETE, ERROR=RECORD NOT  > ARC0195I (CONT.) 
FOUND  > ARC1001I FIXCDS B DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613  DELETE COMMAND FAILED, 
RC=0015,  >  ARC1001I (CONT.) REAS=  > ARC1615I  FIXCDS COMMAND REJECTED  >
 
 > On Wed, 7/26/17, Brian Fraser 
 wrote:
 >
 >  Subject:
 Re: DFHSM QUESTION
 >  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 >  Received: Wednesday, July 26, 2017, 9:23  PM  >  >  If you just  want to 
 > get rid of  >  the backup, then  you can do the following.
 >
 >  HSEND FIXCDS B
 >
 DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613 *DELETE*
 >
 >  Regards
 >  Brian
 >
 >  On Thu, Jul 27,
 2017 at 1:30
 >  AM, retired mainframer
 <
 >  retired-mainfra...@q.com>
 >  wrote:
 >
 >  > Please show the
 >  complete AUDIT and BDELETE commands you  are using.
 >  >
 >  > Did you look up ERR40
 >  in the "Error Codes and
 Diagnosis" section  (section  > 3 in my copy) of  the  > "Using the AUDIT 
Command"
 chapter (my chapter  67)?
 >  > The
 table (51) identifies several
 >
 possible causes and corrective actions.
 >  >
 >  BDELETE is
 the proper action for only one of the causes.
 >  >
 >  > >
 -Original
 >  Message-
 >  > > From: IBM Mainframe
 >  Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]  On  > > Behalf Of willie 
 >  >  bunter  > > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 7:27  AM  > > To: IBM-  > 
 > m...@listserv.ua.edu  > > Subject: DFHSM QUESTION  > >  > >  Good  Day,  > > 
 >  > > > I  ran an AUDIT of the BCDS.  I was 99% successfull of  performing a  
 > > clean  > up execept  for  > > the following type dsns:
 >  > >  ERR 40
 DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613
 >  > >
 >  HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG2.I8257
 MISSING  > >  FIXCDS B
 >
 DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB  CREATE(X'0014'
 X'0098257F')  > >  FIXCDS B
 > DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 PATCH(X'002E' BITS(1.1.))  > >  FIXCDS B  > DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB  
PATCH(X'0030' X'000100010001')  >  >  FIXCDS B  > DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB  >  
EXPAND(X'0040')  >  > >  >  FIXCDS  B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0050' + 
 >  >  > >  >
 X'404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040
 >  > 404040404040
 >
 > >
 >  404
 >
 > >  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 >  PATCH(X'0050'
 >  > >
 >
 HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG
 >  >
 >
 >  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 PATCH(X'0082'
 >
 BITS(0110))
 >  > >
 BDELETE
 >  DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 >  > >  FIXCDS B
 >  DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB DELETE
 >  > > END OF
 >
 - ENHANCED AUDIT - LISTING -
 >
 >
 >  >
 >  >
 > I tried a HSEND BDELETE
 >
 'DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613' ALL .  The command which  > I  > > ran in batch  was  
>  successful however when I ran another AUDIT the entry  >  appears.  I tried 
a  > >  > HSEND  FIXCDS B DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613.  Again the  command was  > 
successful,  > > however  the  AUDIT says otherwise.
 >  >
 >  >

 ---

Re: DFHSM QUESTION

2017-07-27 Thread willie bunter
Lizette,

 The reason why I think that it is a problem because after I run the AUDIT 
using NOFIX the output shows the dsn (*err 40).  I do not see this for other 
LPARS.
My understanding is that if any errors appear a clean up is needed to be 
initiated.  In this case only ERR 40 appears.


On Thu, 7/27/17, Lizette Koehler  wrote:

 Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Received: Thursday, July 27, 2017, 10:22 AM
 
 That does not seem to be a
 failure.
 
 It just states the
 record you tried to delete no longer exists in HSM.  Once
 the record is deleted, it cannot be deleted again.
 
 Why do you think this is a
 failure?
 
 The message
 ARC0195I is all you need to focus on.  The ARC1001 or
 ARC1615I just states the command could not do any work. 
 
 
 
 
 Lizette
 
 
 >
 -Original Message-
 > From: IBM
 Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On
 > Behalf Of willie bunter
 > Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 6:32 AM
 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 > Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
 > 
 > Brian,
 > 
 > I tried that out
 however it didn't work (record not found).  Below is
 the
 > output:
 > 
 > ARC0195I TYPE B, KEY
 DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613, FIXCDS DELETE, ERROR=RECORD NOT
 > ARC0195I (CONT.) FOUND
 > ARC1001I FIXCDS B DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613
 DELETE COMMAND FAILED, RC=0015,
 >
 ARC1001I (CONT.) REAS=
 > ARC1615I
 FIXCDS COMMAND REJECTED
 >
 
 > On Wed, 7/26/17, Brian Fraser 
 wrote:
 > 
 >  Subject:
 Re: DFHSM QUESTION
 >  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 >  Received: Wednesday, July 26, 2017, 9:23
 PM
 > 
 >  If you just
 want to get rid of
 >  the backup, then
 you can do the following.
 > 
 >  HSEND FIXCDS B
 > 
 DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613 *DELETE*
 > 
 >  Regards
 >  Brian
 > 
 >  On Thu, Jul 27,
 2017 at 1:30
 >  AM, retired mainframer
 <
 >  retired-mainfra...@q.com>
 >  wrote:
 > 
 >  > Please show the
 >  complete AUDIT and BDELETE commands you
 are using.
 >  >
 >  > Did you look up ERR40
 >  in the "Error Codes and
 Diagnosis" section  (section  > 3 in my copy) of
 the
 > "Using the AUDIT Command"
 chapter (my chapter  67)?
 >  > The
 table (51) identifies several
 > 
 possible causes and corrective actions.
 >  >
 >  BDELETE is
 the proper action for only one of the causes.
 >  >
 >  > >
 -Original
 >  Message-
 >  > > From: IBM Mainframe
 >  Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
 On  > > Behalf Of willie
 >
 bunter  > > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 7:27 
 AM  > > To: IBM-
 > m...@listserv.ua.edu 
 > > Subject: DFHSM QUESTION  > >  > >
 Good  Day,  > >
 > > > I 
 ran an AUDIT of the BCDS.  I was 99% successfull of 
 performing a
 > clean  > up execept
 for  > > the following type dsns:
 >  > >  ERR 40
 DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613
 >  > >
 >  HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG2.I8257
 MISSING  > >  FIXCDS B
 >
 DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB  CREATE(X'0014'
 X'0098257F')  > >  FIXCDS B
 > DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB 
 PATCH(X'002E' BITS(1.1.))  > > 
 FIXCDS B
 > DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB 
 PATCH(X'0030' X'000100010001')  >
 >  FIXCDS B
 > DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 >  EXPAND(X'0040')
 >  > >
 >  FIXCDS
 B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0050' +  >
 >  > >
 > 
 X'404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040
 >  > 404040404040
 > 
 > >
 >  404
 > 
 > >  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 >  PATCH(X'0050'
 >  > >
 > 
 HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG
 >  >
 >
 >  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 PATCH(X'0082'
 > 
 BITS(0110))
 >  > > 
 BDELETE
 >  DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 >  > >  FIXCDS B
 >  DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB DELETE
 >  > > END OF
 > 
 -     ENHANCED AUDIT - LISTING -
 > 
 >
 >  >
 >  >
 > I tried a HSEND BDELETE
 > 
 'DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613' ALL .  The command which 
 > I  > > ran in batch  was
 >
 successful however when I ran another AUDIT the entry  >
 appears.  I tried a
 > >  > HSEND
 FIXCDS B DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613.  Again the  command was
 > successful,  > > however  the
 AUDIT says otherwise.
 >  >
 >  >
 
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Re: DFHSM QUESTION

2017-07-27 Thread Lizette Koehler
At this point, just take one step back.

You wanted to delete a backup version from HSM.

The dataset is either DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613  or  DB96.ARCHLOG2.B778

Issue an HLIST DSN('DB96.ARCHLOG2.B778') BCDSor HLIST 
DSN('DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613 ') BCDS


If you do not see any backup datasets listed for these datasets, then you have 
deleted the backup copies.

If you still see BCDS entries, then you may need to do more BDELETE commands.

AUDIT is used to verify content in HSM.  However, it may create confusion with 
its results.

I rarely use AUDIT.  If the BDELETE works or there are no longer any BCDS 
entries, I will not issue AUDIT commands.


If you could provide the description of the problem you are trying to solve 
with BDELETE and AUDIT, that will be helpful.

>From what you have posted so far, the BDELETE looks like it was successful at 
>some point.


For further analysis, issue the command   BACKDS 
'DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613' 

Then do the HLIST DSN('DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613') BCDS   and see if you get an 
entry


Next do the BDELETE command for DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613  


Repeat the HLIST command.


If there are no entries in the BCDS for this dataset, that should show the 
process in HSM is working.


Lizette

  
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of willie bunter
> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 6:53 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
> 
> Here are the commands I tried :
>  HSEND FIXCDS B DB96.ARCHLOG2.B778 (message received) :
> 
> ARC0195I TYPE B, KEY DB96.ARCHLOG2.B778, FIXCDS DISPLAY, ERROR=RECORD NOT
> ARC0195I (CONT.) FOUND
> ARC1001I FIXCDS B DB96.ARCHLOG2.B778 COMMAND FAILED, RC=0015, REAS=
> ARC1615I FIXCDS COMMAND REJECTED
> 
> HSEND  BDELETE 'DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613' ALL No error message received.
> 
> I looked at the ERR 40  in the doc.  It describes my problem however it is
> not clear what I should do.  In this case the B record does not exist or
> missing.
> for example it says "If the backup version (C) record references a data set
> (B) record that does not exist, then a new (B) record is created and the
> version added".  Not  usre ...then a new(B) record is created and the version
> added.
> 
> I do not understand this.  Any suggestions?
> 
> On Wed, 7/26/17, retired mainframer  wrote:
> 
>  Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
>  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>  Received: Wednesday, July 26, 2017, 1:30 PM
> 
>  Please show the complete AUDIT
>  and BDELETE commands you are using.
> 
>  Did you look up ERR40 in the "Error Codes  and Diagnosis" section (section 3
> in my copy) of the  "Using the AUDIT Command" chapter (my chapter  67)?  The
> table (51) identifies several possible causes and  corrective
> actions.  BDELETE is the proper action for only  one of the causes.
> 
>  >
>  -Original Message-----
>  > From: IBM
>  Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]  On  > Behalf Of
> willie bunter  > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 7:27 AM  > To: IBM-
> m...@listserv.ua.edu  > Subject: DFHSM QUESTION  >  > Good Day,  >  > I ran
> an AUDIT of  the BCDS.  I was 99% successfull of performing a clean up
> execept for  > the following type dsns:
>  >  ERR 40 DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613
>  > HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG2.I8257
>  MISSING
>  >  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
>  CREATE(X'0014' X'0098257F')
>  >  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
>  PATCH(X'002E' BITS(1.1.))
>  >  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
>  PATCH(X'0030' X'000100010001')
>  >  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
>  EXPAND(X'0040')
>  >  FIXCDS B
>  DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0050' +
>  >
>  >
>  X'404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040
>  > 404
>  >  FIXCDS B
>  DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0050'
>  > HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG
>  >  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
>  PATCH(X'0082' BITS(0110))
>  >  BDELETE DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
>  >  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB DELETE
>  > END OF - ENHANCED AUDIT - LISTING
>  -
>  >
>  > I tried a HSEND
>  BDELETE 'DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613' ALL .  The command  which I  > ran in batch
> was successful  however when I ran another AUDIT the entry appears.  I  tried
> a  > HSEND FIXCDS B  DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613.  Again the command was
> successful,  > however the AUDIT says  otherwise.
> 

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION

2017-07-27 Thread Carmen Vitullo
I think it's time to list the contents of the BCDS, I don't have HSM so I can't 
provide the correct command, 


HSEND LIST LEVEL(DB96) BCDS or (BACKUPCONTROLDATASET) OUTDATASET(xxx.yyy.xxx) 
?? 

but I tent to agree with Lizette, the record in the BCDS does not exist 


* RECORD NOT FOUND—The indicated record was not found; you could not delete 
or update it. 


Carmen - Original Message -

From: "willie bunter" <001409bd2345-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> 
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Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 8:52:37 AM 
Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION 

Here are the commands I tried : 
HSEND FIXCDS B DB96.ARCHLOG2.B778 (message received) : 

ARC0195I TYPE B, KEY DB96.ARCHLOG2.B778, FIXCDS DISPLAY, ERROR=RECORD NOT 
ARC0195I (CONT.) FOUND 
ARC1001I FIXCDS B DB96.ARCHLOG2.B778 COMMAND FAILED, RC=0015, REAS= 
ARC1615I FIXCDS COMMAND REJECTED 

HSEND BDELETE 'DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613' ALL 
No error message received. 

I looked at the ERR 40 in the doc. It describes my problem however it is not 
clear what I should do. In this case the B record does not exist or missing. 
for example it says "If the backup version (C) record references a data set (B) 
record that does not exist, then a new (B) record is created and the version 
added". Not usre ...then a new(B) record is created and the version added. 

I do not understand this. Any suggestions? 
 
On Wed, 7/26/17, retired mainframer  wrote: 

Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION 
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Received: Wednesday, July 26, 2017, 1:30 PM 

Please show the complete AUDIT 
and BDELETE commands you are using. 

Did you look up ERR40 in the "Error Codes 
and Diagnosis" section (section 3 in my copy) of the 
"Using the AUDIT Command" chapter (my chapter 
67)? The table (51) identifies several possible causes and 
corrective actions. BDELETE is the proper action for only 
one of the causes. 

> 
-Original Message- 
> From: IBM 
Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
On 
> Behalf Of willie bunter 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 7:27 AM 
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
> Subject: DFHSM QUESTION 
> 
> Good Day, 
> 
> I ran an AUDIT of 
the BCDS. I was 99% successfull of performing a clean up 
execept for 
> the following type dsns: 
> ERR 40 DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613 
> HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG2.I8257 
MISSING 
> FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB 
CREATE(X'0014' X'0098257F') 
> FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB 
PATCH(X'002E' BITS(1.1.)) 
> FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB 
PATCH(X'0030' X'000100010001') 
> FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB 
EXPAND(X'0040') 
> FIXCDS B 
DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0050' + 
> 
> 
X'404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040 
> 404 
> FIXCDS B 
DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0050' 
> HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG 
> FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB 
PATCH(X'0082' BITS(0110)) 
> BDELETE DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB 
> FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB DELETE 
> END OF - ENHANCED AUDIT - LISTING 
- 
> 
> I tried a HSEND 
BDELETE 'DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613' ALL . The command 
which I 
> ran in batch was successful 
however when I ran another AUDIT the entry appears. I 
tried a 
> HSEND FIXCDS B 
DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613. Again the command was 
successful, 
> however the AUDIT says 
otherwise. 

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION

2017-07-27 Thread willie bunter
Here are the commands I tried :
 HSEND FIXCDS B DB96.ARCHLOG2.B778 (message received) :

ARC0195I TYPE B, KEY DB96.ARCHLOG2.B778, FIXCDS DISPLAY, ERROR=RECORD NOT 
ARC0195I (CONT.) FOUND
ARC1001I FIXCDS B DB96.ARCHLOG2.B778 COMMAND FAILED, RC=0015, REAS=   
ARC1615I FIXCDS COMMAND REJECTED  

HSEND  BDELETE 'DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613' ALL
No error message received.

I looked at the ERR 40  in the doc.  It describes my problem however it is not 
clear what I should do.  In this case the B record does not exist or missing.
for example it says "If the backup version (C) record references a data set (B) 
record that does not exist, then a new (B) record is created and the version 
added".  Not  usre ...then a new(B) record is created and the version added.

I do not understand this.  Any suggestions?

On Wed, 7/26/17, retired mainframer  wrote:

 Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Received: Wednesday, July 26, 2017, 1:30 PM
 
 Please show the complete AUDIT
 and BDELETE commands you are using.
 
 Did you look up ERR40 in the "Error Codes
 and Diagnosis" section (section 3 in my copy) of the
 "Using the AUDIT Command" chapter (my chapter
 67)?  The table (51) identifies several possible causes and
 corrective actions.  BDELETE is the proper action for only
 one of the causes.
 
 >
 -Original Message-
 > From: IBM
 Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On
 > Behalf Of willie bunter
 > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 7:27 AM
 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 > Subject: DFHSM QUESTION
 > 
 > Good Day,
 > 
 > I ran an AUDIT of
 the BCDS.  I was 99% successfull of performing a clean up
 execept for
 > the following type dsns:
 >  ERR 40 DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613
 > HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG2.I8257
 MISSING
 >  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 CREATE(X'0014' X'0098257F')
 >  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 PATCH(X'002E' BITS(1.1.))
 >  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 PATCH(X'0030' X'000100010001')
 >  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 EXPAND(X'0040')
 >  FIXCDS B
 DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0050' +
 > 
 >
 X'404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040
 > 404
 >  FIXCDS B
 DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0050'
 > HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG
 >  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 PATCH(X'0082' BITS(0110))
 >  BDELETE DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 >  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB DELETE
 > END OF -     ENHANCED AUDIT - LISTING
 -
 > 
 > I tried a HSEND
 BDELETE 'DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613' ALL .  The command
 which I
 > ran in batch was successful
 however when I ran another AUDIT the entry appears.  I
 tried a
 > HSEND FIXCDS B
 DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613.  Again the command was
 successful,
 > however the AUDIT says
 otherwise.
 
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Re: DFHSM QUESTION

2017-07-27 Thread Lizette Koehler
That does not seem to be a failure.

It just states the record you tried to delete no longer exists in HSM.  Once 
the record is deleted, it cannot be deleted again.

Why do you think this is a failure?

The message ARC0195I is all you need to focus on.  The ARC1001 or ARC1615I just 
states the command could not do any work.  



Lizette


> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of willie bunter
> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 6:32 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
> 
> Brian,
> 
> I tried that out however it didn't work (record not found).  Below is the
> output:
> 
> ARC0195I TYPE B, KEY DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613, FIXCDS DELETE, ERROR=RECORD NOT
> ARC0195I (CONT.) FOUND
> ARC1001I FIXCDS B DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613 DELETE COMMAND FAILED, RC=0015,
> ARC1001I (CONT.) REAS=
> ARC1615I FIXCDS COMMAND REJECTED
> 
> On Wed, 7/26/17, Brian Fraser  wrote:
> 
>  Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
>  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>  Received: Wednesday, July 26, 2017, 9:23 PM
> 
>  If you just want to get rid of
>  the backup, then you can do the following.
> 
>  HSEND FIXCDS B
>  DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613 *DELETE*
> 
>  Regards
>  Brian
> 
>  On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 1:30
>  AM, retired mainframer <
>  retired-mainfra...@q.com>
>  wrote:
> 
>  > Please show the
>  complete AUDIT and BDELETE commands you are using.
>  >
>  > Did you look up ERR40
>  in the "Error Codes and Diagnosis" section  (section  > 3 in my copy) of the
> "Using the AUDIT Command" chapter (my chapter  67)?
>  > The table (51) identifies several
>  possible causes and corrective actions.
>  >
>  BDELETE is the proper action for only one of the causes.
>  >
>  > > -Original
>  Message-
>  > > From: IBM Mainframe
>  Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]  On  > > Behalf Of willie
> bunter  > > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 7:27  AM  > > To: IBM-
> m...@listserv.ua.edu  > > Subject: DFHSM QUESTION  > >  > > Good  Day,  > >
> > > I  ran an AUDIT of the BCDS.  I was 99% successfull of  performing a
> clean  > up execept for  > > the following type dsns:
>  > >  ERR 40 DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613
>  > >
>  HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG2.I8257 MISSING  > >  FIXCDS B
> DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB  CREATE(X'0014' X'0098257F')  > >  FIXCDS B
> DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB  PATCH(X'002E' BITS(1.1.))  > >  FIXCDS B
> DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB  PATCH(X'0030' X'000100010001')  > >  FIXCDS B
> DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
>  EXPAND(X'0040')
>  > >
>  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0050' +  > >  > >
>  X'404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040
>  > 404040404040
>  > >
>  404
>  > >  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
>  PATCH(X'0050'
>  > >
>  HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG
>  > >
>  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0082'
>  BITS(0110))
>  > >  BDELETE
>  DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
>  > >  FIXCDS B
>  DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB DELETE
>  > > END OF
>  - ENHANCED AUDIT - LISTING -
>  >
>  >
>  > > I tried a HSEND BDELETE
>  'DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613' ALL .  The command which  > I  > > ran in batch  was
> successful however when I ran another AUDIT the entry  > appears.  I tried a
> >  > HSEND FIXCDS B DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613.  Again the  command was
> successful,  > > however  the AUDIT says otherwise.
>  >
>  >

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION

2017-07-27 Thread willie bunter
Brian,

I tried that out however it didn't work (record not found).  Below is the 
output:

ARC0195I TYPE B, KEY DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613, FIXCDS DELETE, ERROR=RECORD NOT
ARC0195I (CONT.) FOUND 
ARC1001I FIXCDS B DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613 DELETE COMMAND FAILED, RC=0015,
ARC1001I (CONT.) REAS= 
ARC1615I FIXCDS COMMAND REJECTED   

On Wed, 7/26/17, Brian Fraser  wrote:

 Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Received: Wednesday, July 26, 2017, 9:23 PM
 
 If you just want to get rid of
 the backup, then you can do the following.
 
 HSEND FIXCDS B
 DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613 *DELETE*
 
 Regards
 Brian
 
 On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 1:30
 AM, retired mainframer <
 retired-mainfra...@q.com>
 wrote:
 
 > Please show the
 complete AUDIT and BDELETE commands you are using.
 >
 > Did you look up ERR40
 in the "Error Codes and Diagnosis" section
 (section
 > 3 in my copy) of the
 "Using the AUDIT Command" chapter (my chapter
 67)?
 > The table (51) identifies several
 possible causes and corrective actions.
 >
 BDELETE is the proper action for only one of the causes.
 >
 > > -Original
 Message-
 > > From: IBM Mainframe
 Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On
 > > Behalf Of willie bunter
 > > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 7:27
 AM
 > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 > > Subject: DFHSM QUESTION
 > >
 > > Good
 Day,
 > >
 > > I
 ran an AUDIT of the BCDS.  I was 99% successfull of
 performing a clean
 > up execept for
 > > the following type dsns:
 > >  ERR 40 DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613
 > >
 HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG2.I8257 MISSING
 > >  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 CREATE(X'0014' X'0098257F')
 > >  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 PATCH(X'002E' BITS(1.1.))
 > >  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 PATCH(X'0030' X'000100010001')
 > >  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 EXPAND(X'0040')
 > > 
 FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0050' +
 > >
 > >
 X'404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040
 > 404040404040
 > >
 404
 > >  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 PATCH(X'0050'
 > >
 HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG
 > > 
 FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0082'
 BITS(0110))
 > >  BDELETE
 DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 > >  FIXCDS B
 DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB DELETE
 > > END OF
 -     ENHANCED AUDIT - LISTING -
 >
 >
 > > I tried a HSEND BDELETE
 'DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613' ALL .  The command which
 > I
 > > ran in batch
 was successful however when I ran another AUDIT the entry
 > appears.  I tried a
 >
 > HSEND FIXCDS B DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613.  Again the
 command was successful,
 > > however
 the AUDIT says otherwise.
 >
 >
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Re: DFHSM QUESTION

2017-07-26 Thread Brian Fraser
If you just want to get rid of the backup, then you can do the following.

HSEND FIXCDS B DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613 *DELETE*

Regards
Brian

On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 1:30 AM, retired mainframer <
retired-mainfra...@q.com> wrote:

> Please show the complete AUDIT and BDELETE commands you are using.
>
> Did you look up ERR40 in the "Error Codes and Diagnosis" section (section
> 3 in my copy) of the "Using the AUDIT Command" chapter (my chapter 67)?
> The table (51) identifies several possible causes and corrective actions.
> BDELETE is the proper action for only one of the causes.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> > Behalf Of willie bunter
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 7:27 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: DFHSM QUESTION
> >
> > Good Day,
> >
> > I ran an AUDIT of the BCDS.  I was 99% successfull of performing a clean
> up execept for
> > the following type dsns:
> >  ERR 40 DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613
> > HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG2.I8257 MISSING
> >  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB CREATE(X'0014' X'0098257F')
> >  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'002E' BITS(1.1.))
> >  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0030' X'000100010001')
> >  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB EXPAND(X'0040')
> >  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0050' +
> >
> > X'404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040
> 404040404040
> > 404
> >  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0050'
> > HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG
> >  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0082' BITS(0110))
> >  BDELETE DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
> >  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB DELETE
> > END OF - ENHANCED AUDIT - LISTING -
> >
> > I tried a HSEND BDELETE 'DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613' ALL .  The command which
> I
> > ran in batch was successful however when I ran another AUDIT the entry
> appears.  I tried a
> > HSEND FIXCDS B DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613.  Again the command was successful,
> > however the AUDIT says otherwise.
>
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Re: DFHSM QUESTION

2017-07-26 Thread retired mainframer
Please show the complete AUDIT and BDELETE commands you are using.

Did you look up ERR40 in the "Error Codes and Diagnosis" section (section 3 in 
my copy) of the "Using the AUDIT Command" chapter (my chapter 67)?  The table 
(51) identifies several possible causes and corrective actions.  BDELETE is the 
proper action for only one of the causes.

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of willie bunter
> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 7:27 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: DFHSM QUESTION
> 
> Good Day,
> 
> I ran an AUDIT of the BCDS.  I was 99% successfull of performing a clean up 
> execept for
> the following type dsns:
>  ERR 40 DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613
> HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG2.I8257 MISSING
>  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB CREATE(X'0014' X'0098257F')
>  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'002E' BITS(1.1.))
>  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0030' X'000100010001')
>  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB EXPAND(X'0040')
>  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0050' +
> 
> X'404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040
> 404
>  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0050'
> HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG
>  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0082' BITS(0110))
>  BDELETE DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
>  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB DELETE
> END OF - ENHANCED AUDIT - LISTING -
> 
> I tried a HSEND BDELETE 'DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613' ALL .  The command which I
> ran in batch was successful however when I ran another AUDIT the entry 
> appears.  I tried a
> HSEND FIXCDS B DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613.  Again the command was successful,
> however the AUDIT says otherwise.

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - REPOST

2017-07-26 Thread willie bunter
Lizette,

 I verified the syntax of the BDELETE command and it is correct.  I ran a 
HLIST against the dsn and it says "ARC0138I NO BCDS INFORMATION FOUND FOR 
DATASET DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613".

I will keep on digging around.

On Wed, 7/26/17, Lizette Koehler  wrote:

 Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - REPOST
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Received: Wednesday, July 26, 2017, 11:15 AM
 
 I would suggest if you are
 running in batch, you may see successful.  But I would
 check the DFHSM Started task for error messages.
 
 That you still see the entry
 seems to indicate that it was not successful.
 
 Please check the syntax of
 your BDELETE Command.
 
 
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.arcf000/s4118.htm
 
 
 
 I suggest you do the following
 
 HLIST DSN(your dataset name)
 BCDS
 
 See if you have more
 than one GEN for the backup.
 
 Next review the HSM Command manual for BDELETE
 and make sure you are entering the command correctly.
 
 Lastly, provide all commands
 and message (full details, mask company proprietary data)
 
 There are some functions that
 will return a OK to a command, but it does not mean that
 command was successful
 
 
 
 Lizette
 
 
 > -Original Message-
 > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
 [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
 On
 > Behalf Of willie bunter
 > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 7:30 AM
 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 > Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - REPOST
 > 
 > I am reposting my
 question because some info was truncated.
 > 
 > I ran an AUDIT of
 the BCDS.  I was 99% successfull of performing a clean
 up
 > execept for the following type
 dsns:
 >  ERR 40 DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613
 HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG2.I8257 MISSING
 > B RECORD
 >  FIXCDS B
 DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB CREATE(X'0014'
 X'0098257F')
 >  FIXCDS B
 DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'002E'
 BITS(1.1.))
 >  FIXCDS B
 DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0030'
 X'000100010001')
 >  FIXCDS B
 DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB EXPAND(X'0040')
 >  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 PATCH(X'0050' +
 > 
 >
 X'404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404
 >  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 PATCH(X'0050'
 >
 HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG
 > 
 FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0082'
 BITS(0110))
 >  BDELETE
 DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 >  FIXCDS B
 DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB DELETE
 > END OF -    
 ENHANCED AUDIT - LISTING -
 > 
 > I tried a HSEND BDELETE
 'DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613' ALL .  The command which
 I
 > ran in batch was successful however
 when I ran another AUDIT the entry
 >
 appears.  I tried a HSEND FIXCDS B DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613. 
 Again the command
 > was successful,
 however the AUDIT says otherwise.
 > 
 > Anything else I could try?
 > 
 >
 
 > On Wed, 7/26/17, willie bunter
 <001409bd2345-dmarc-
 > requ...@listserv.ua.edu>
 wrote:
 > 
 >  Subject:
 DFHSM QUESTION
 >  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 >  Received: Wednesday, July 26, 2017,
 10:26 AM
 > 
 >  Good
 Day,
 > 
 >  I ran an
 AUDIT of the BCDS.  I was
 >  99%
 successfull of performing a clean up execept for the 
 following type
 > dsns:
 >   ERR 40 DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613
 >  HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG2.I8257
 MISSING
 >   FIXCDS B
 DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 > 
 CREATE(X'0014' X'0098257F')
 > 
 >   FIXCDS B
 DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 > 
 PATCH(X'002E' BITS(1.1.))
 > 
 >   FIXCDS B
 DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 > 
 PATCH(X'0030' X'000100010001')
 > 
 >   FIXCDS B
 DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 > 
 EXPAND(X'0040')
 > 
 > 
 >   FIXCDS B
 DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 > 
 PATCH(X'0050' +
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > 
 >
 X'404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404
 >   FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 >  PATCH(X'0050'
 HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG
 >  
 FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 > 
 PATCH(X'0082' BITS(0110))
 > 
 >   BDELETE
 DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 > 
 >
 
 > 
 >   FIXCDS B
 DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 >  DELETE
 > 
 > 
 >  END OF -     ENHANCED AUDIT -
 >  LISTING -
 > 
 > 
 > 
 >  I tried a HSEND BDELETE
 >  'DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613' ALL . 
 The command which I ran  in batch was
 >
 successful however when I ran another AUDIT the  entry
 appears.  I tried a
 > HSEND FIXCDS B 
 DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613.  Again the command was 
 successful,
 > however the AUDIT says
 otherwise.
 > 
 > 
 Anything else I could try?
 
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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - REPOST

2017-07-26 Thread Lizette Koehler
I would suggest if you are running in batch, you may see successful.  But I 
would check the DFHSM Started task for error messages.

That you still see the entry seems to indicate that it was not successful.

Please check the syntax of your BDELETE Command.

https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.arcf000/s4118.htm



I suggest you do the following

HLIST DSN(your dataset name) BCDS

See if you have more than one GEN for the backup.

Next review the HSM Command manual for BDELETE and make sure you are entering 
the command correctly.

Lastly, provide all commands and message (full details, mask company 
proprietary data)

There are some functions that will return a OK to a command, but it does not 
mean that command was successful



Lizette


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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
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> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 7:30 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - REPOST
> 
> I am reposting my question because some info was truncated.
> 
> I ran an AUDIT of the BCDS.  I was 99% successfull of performing a clean up
> execept for the following type dsns:
>  ERR 40 DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613 HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG2.I8257 MISSING
> B RECORD
>  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB CREATE(X'0014' X'0098257F')
>  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'002E' BITS(1.1.))
>  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0030' X'000100010001')
>  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB EXPAND(X'0040')
>  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0050' +
> 
> X'404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404
>  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0050'
> HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG
>  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0082' BITS(0110))
>  BDELETE DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
>  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB DELETE
> END OF - ENHANCED AUDIT - LISTING -
> 
> I tried a HSEND BDELETE 'DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613' ALL .  The command which I
> ran in batch was successful however when I ran another AUDIT the entry
> appears.  I tried a HSEND FIXCDS B DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613.  Again the command
> was successful, however the AUDIT says otherwise.
> 
> Anything else I could try?
> 
> 
> On Wed, 7/26/17, willie bunter <001409bd2345-dmarc-
> requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> 
>  Subject: DFHSM QUESTION
>  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>  Received: Wednesday, July 26, 2017, 10:26 AM
> 
>  Good Day,
> 
>  I ran an AUDIT of the BCDS.  I was
>  99% successfull of performing a clean up execept for the  following type
> dsns:
>   ERR 40 DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613
>  HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG2.I8257 MISSING
>   FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
>  CREATE(X'0014' X'0098257F')
> 
>   FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
>  PATCH(X'002E' BITS(1.1.))
> 
>   FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
>  PATCH(X'0030' X'000100010001')
> 
>   FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
>  EXPAND(X'0040')
> 
> 
>   FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
>  PATCH(X'0050' +
> 
> 
> 
> 
> X'404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404
>   FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
>  PATCH(X'0050' HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG
>   FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
>  PATCH(X'0082' BITS(0110))
> 
>   BDELETE DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
> 
> 
> 
>   FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
>  DELETE
> 
> 
>  END OF - ENHANCED AUDIT -
>  LISTING -
> 
> 
> 
>  I tried a HSEND BDELETE
>  'DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613' ALL .  The command which I ran  in batch was
> successful however when I ran another AUDIT the  entry appears.  I tried a
> HSEND FIXCDS B  DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613.  Again the command was  successful,
> however the AUDIT says otherwise.
> 
>  Anything else I could try?

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - REPOST

2017-07-26 Thread willie bunter
I am reposting my question because some info was truncated.

I ran an AUDIT of the BCDS.  I was 99% successfull of performing a clean up 
execept for the following type dsns:
 ERR 40 DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613 HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG2.I8257 MISSING B 
RECORD
 FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB CREATE(X'0014' X'0098257F')   
 FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'002E' BITS(1.1.)) 
 FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0030' X'000100010001')
 FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB EXPAND(X'0040')   
 FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0050' +   
 X'404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404
 FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0050' HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG
 FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0082' BITS(0110)) 
 BDELETE DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB DELETE
END OF - ENHANCED AUDIT - LISTING -
 
I tried a HSEND BDELETE 'DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613' ALL .  The command which I ran 
in batch was successful however when I ran another AUDIT the entry appears.  I 
tried a HSEND FIXCDS B DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613.  Again the command was 
successful, however the AUDIT says otherwise.

Anything else I could try?

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On Wed, 7/26/17, willie bunter <001409bd2345-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> 
wrote:

 Subject: DFHSM QUESTION
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Received: Wednesday, July 26, 2017, 10:26 AM
 
 Good Day,
 
 I ran an AUDIT of the BCDS.  I was
 99% successfull of performing a clean up execept for the
 following type dsns:
  ERR 40 DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613
 HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG2.I8257 MISSING 
  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 CREATE(X'0014' X'0098257F')       
            
  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 PATCH(X'002E' BITS(1.1.))       
          
  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 PATCH(X'0030' X'000100010001')     
           
  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 EXPAND(X'0040')           
                
    
  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 PATCH(X'0050' +           
                
    
 
 X'404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404
  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 PATCH(X'0050' HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG
  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 PATCH(X'0082' BITS(0110))       
          
  BDELETE DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB   
                
                
                 
  FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 DELETE             
                
               
 END OF -     ENHANCED AUDIT -
 LISTING -             
                
           
  
 I tried a HSEND BDELETE
 'DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613' ALL .  The command which I ran
 in batch was successful however when I ran another AUDIT the
 entry appears.  I tried a HSEND FIXCDS B
 DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613.  Again the command was
 successful, however the AUDIT says otherwise.
 
 Anything else I could try?   
                
         
 
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DFHSM QUESTION

2017-07-26 Thread willie bunter
Good Day,

I ran an AUDIT of the BCDS.  I was 99% successfull of performing a clean up 
execept for the following type dsns:
 ERR 40 DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613 HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG2.I8257 MISSING 
 FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB CREATE(X'0014' X'0098257F')   
 FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'002E' BITS(1.1.)) 
 FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0030' X'000100010001')
 FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB EXPAND(X'0040')   
 FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0050' +   
 X'404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404040404
 FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0050' HSMBACK.BACK.T592617.DB2.ARCHLOG
 FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB PATCH(X'0082' BITS(0110)) 
 BDELETE DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB
 FIXCDS B DUMMY.RECOVER.MCB DELETE
END OF - ENHANCED AUDIT - LISTING -
 
I tried a HSEND BDELETE 'DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613' ALL .  The command which I ran 
in batch was successful however when I ran another AUDIT the entry appears.  I 
tried a HSEND FIXCDS B DB2.ARCHLOG2.A0091613.  Again the command was 
successful, however the AUDIT says otherwise.

Anything else I could try?

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION : ARC0506I - RE- POST

2017-07-25 Thread Steve Smith
You don't really need to be good at assembler to look up the error code.
OTOH, you do need to have that manual, and finding it is something of a
scavenger hunt these days.  Anyway, I did look it up:

0210 (528) Meaning: Requested data set unavailable. The data set is
allocated to another job and its usage attribute conflicts with this
request. (dsname allocation)
Application Programmer Action: Change the allocation request and resubmit
the request.
Corresponding Message: IKJ56225I

Now the rest of the verbiage in the ARC0506I message don't make much sense
to me.  How you could get an error code x'0210' on a "SYSOUT TYPE" dataset
is beyond me.  Further, why they refer you to a manual with incorrect names
for the fields is rather asinine.  "REAS" must mean S99ERROR, and "EXTENDED
REASON CODE" must be S99INFO.  Best of all, they elected not to provide any
useful details like the DDNAME or DSNAME.

Good luck.
sas


On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 12:37 PM, willie bunter <
001409bd2345-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> Hallo To All Members,
>
>   I am trying to run the following AUDIT command:
>   HSEND AUDIT DATASETCONTROLS(BACKUP) FIX
>
> For some reason I am receiving the following error message :
> ARC0506I FAILURE TO ALLOCATE SYSOUT TYPE DATA SET,
> ARC0506I (CONT.) RC=04, REAS=0210, EXTENDED REASON CODE=
>
> The doc says "For all dynamic allocation error and information codes, see
> the z/OS MVS Programming: Authorized Assembler Services Guide"
>
> I am not good at ASSEMBLER.  Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks.
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Re: DFHSM QUESTION : ARC0506I - RE- POST - PROBLEM SOLVED

2017-07-25 Thread willie bunter
I found the error.  The ODS(.xxx.etc.etc) was in the wrong starting column. 
 The AUDIT is in progress.

Thanks.

On Tue, 7/25/17, willie bunter <001409bd2345-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> 
wrote:

 Subject: DFHSM QUESTION : ARC0506I - RE- POST
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Received: Tuesday, July 25, 2017, 12:37 PM
 
 Hallo To All Members,
 
   I am trying to run the following
 AUDIT command:
          
             HSEND AUDIT
 DATASETCONTROLS(BACKUP) FIX
 
 For some reason I am receiving the
 following error message :
 ARC0506I FAILURE TO ALLOCATE SYSOUT
 TYPE DATA SET,   
 ARC0506I (CONT.) RC=04, REAS=0210,
 EXTENDED REASON CODE=
 
 The doc says "For all dynamic
 allocation error and information codes, see the z/OS MVS
 Programming: Authorized Assembler Services Guide"
 
 I am not good at ASSEMBLER.  Any
 suggestions?
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: DFHSM QUESTION -

2017-07-25 Thread willie bunter
Lizette,

I re-posted my question.  I had a glitch.  Yes I am trying to write to a ODS.  
I will check the HSM guide.  As a FYI I did the copy/paste of the command from 
another LPAR on which I last ran it.


On Tue, 7/25/17, Lizette Koehler  wrote:

 Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION -
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Received: Tuesday, July 25, 2017, 12:34 PM
 
 You might try writing to a
 DATASET by using ODS(output.dataset)
 
 The command is in the HSM Admin guide
 
 The REAS=0210 can be found in
 ISPF - Issue PF1 (HELP) two times, select I for INDEX. 
 Enter D on the command line and select D1 - DAIR codes
 
 It is in there.
 
 
 Lizette
 
 
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 Message-
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 > Behalf Of willie bunter
 > Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 9:30 AM
 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 > Subject: DFHSM QUESTION -
 > 
 > Hallo To All
 Members,
 > 
 >    I
 am trying to run the following AUDIT command:
 >                        HSEND
 AUDIT DATASETCONTROLS(BACKUP) FIX
 > 
 > For some reason I am receiving the
 following error message :
 > ARC0506I
 FAILURE TO ALLOCATE SYSOUT TYPE DATA SET,  862
 > ARC0506I (CONT.) RC=04, REAS=0210,
 EXTENDED REASON CODE=
 
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DFHSM QUESTION : ARC0506I - RE- POST

2017-07-25 Thread willie bunter
Hallo To All Members,

  I am trying to run the following AUDIT command:
  HSEND AUDIT DATASETCONTROLS(BACKUP) FIX

For some reason I am receiving the following error message :
ARC0506I FAILURE TO ALLOCATE SYSOUT TYPE DATA SET,   
ARC0506I (CONT.) RC=04, REAS=0210, EXTENDED REASON CODE=

The doc says "For all dynamic allocation error and information codes, see the 
z/OS MVS Programming: Authorized Assembler Services Guide"

I am not good at ASSEMBLER.  Any suggestions?

Thanks.

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION -

2017-07-25 Thread Lizette Koehler
You might try writing to a DATASET by using ODS(output.dataset)

The command is in the HSM Admin guide

The REAS=0210 can be found in ISPF - Issue PF1 (HELP) two times, select I for 
INDEX.  Enter D on the command line and select D1 - DAIR codes

It is in there.


Lizette


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> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 9:30 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: DFHSM QUESTION -
> 
> Hallo To All Members,
> 
>I am trying to run the following AUDIT command:
>HSEND AUDIT DATASETCONTROLS(BACKUP) FIX
> 
> For some reason I am receiving the following error message :
> ARC0506I FAILURE TO ALLOCATE SYSOUT TYPE DATA SET,  862
> ARC0506I (CONT.) RC=04, REAS=0210, EXTENDED REASON CODE=

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DFHSM QUESTION -

2017-07-25 Thread willie bunter
Hallo To All Members,

   I am trying to run the following AUDIT command:
   HSEND AUDIT DATASETCONTROLS(BACKUP) FIX

For some reason I am receiving the following error message :
ARC0506I FAILURE TO ALLOCATE SYSOUT TYPE DATA SET,  862 
ARC0506I (CONT.) RC=04, REAS=0210, EXTENDED REASON CODE=

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION

2017-07-01 Thread willie bunter
Brian,

Thanks it worked.  That is what I am looking for.

Thanks 

On Fri, 6/30/17, Brian Fraser  wrote:

 Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Received: Friday, June 30, 2017, 11:34 AM
 
 Try like this:
 HSEND LIST BCDS DSNAME ODS(dsn)
 
 Brian
 
 
 On 29 Jun 2017 21:34,
 "willie bunter" <
 001409bd2345-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu>
 wrote:
 
 Sorry, I noticed a
 typo.  Should have read DFHSM
 
 On Thu, 6/29/17, willie bunter
 <001409bd2345-dmarc-
 requ...@listserv.ua.edu>
 wrote:
 
  Subject: DRHSM
 QUESTION
  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
  Received: Thursday, June 29, 2017, 8:46 AM
 
  Hallo To All,
 
  I am trying to get a list of
 all dsns
  which have a HSM backup.  I tried
 the following command
  but it listed the
 dsns on ML2.  Can someone spot my
 
 error?
 
  HSEND LIST DSN
 SELECT(BACKUP) -
 
 
 ODS(PRODD.LIST.ALL.BACKUP)
 
 
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Re: DFHSM QUESTION

2017-06-30 Thread Glenn Wilcock
Correct.  'MCDS' is the default.  You just need to specify one of the backup 
keywords.  Glenn

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION

2017-06-30 Thread Brian Fraser
Try like this:
HSEND LIST BCDS DSNAME ODS(dsn)

Brian


On 29 Jun 2017 21:34, "willie bunter" <
001409bd2345-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

Sorry, I noticed a typo.  Should have read DFHSM

On Thu, 6/29/17, willie bunter <001409bd2345-dmarc-
requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

 Subject: DRHSM QUESTION
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Received: Thursday, June 29, 2017, 8:46 AM

 Hallo To All,

 I am trying to get a list of all dsns
 which have a HSM backup.  I tried the following command
 but it listed the dsns on ML2.  Can someone spot my
 error?

 HSEND LIST DSN SELECT(BACKUP) -

 ODS(PRODD.LIST.ALL.BACKUP)

 Thanks.

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION

2017-06-29 Thread willie bunter
Sorry, I noticed a typo.  Should have read DFHSM 

On Thu, 6/29/17, willie bunter <001409bd2345-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> 
wrote:

 Subject: DRHSM QUESTION
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Received: Thursday, June 29, 2017, 8:46 AM
 
 Hallo To All,
 
 I am trying to get a list of all dsns
 which have a HSM backup.  I tried the following command
 but it listed the dsns on ML2.  Can someone spot my
 error?
 
 HSEND LIST DSN SELECT(BACKUP) -  
      
 ODS(PRODD.LIST.ALL.BACKUP)
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: DFHSM QUESTION

2017-05-25 Thread Cafiero, Tobias M.
No Problem 

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Tobias,
Thanks for answering my question.

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 Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION
   
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 Gentle Readers,
Recently a storage group had reached a 93% level.  I checked the Storage Group 
and this is what I found:
Auto Migrate .. . N
Auto Backup  . . N
Auto Dump  . . . N
Overflow. . . . N
Allocation/migration Threshold : High    90   (1-100)  Low . . 
40  (0-99) Alloc/Migr Threshold Track-Managed:       High    85   (1-100)  Low 
. . 1   (0-99) Guaranteed Backup Frequency  . . . . . . NOLIMIT  (1 to  
or NOLIMIT) Can I correctly assume that the above threshold values will be 
ignored because there is no MIGRATION?
Thanks.

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION

2017-05-25 Thread esmie moo
Tobias,
Thanks for answering my question.

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Subject: DFHSM QUESTION

 Gentle Readers,
Recently a storage group had reached a 93% level.  I checked the Storage Group 
and this is what I found:
Auto Migrate .. . N
Auto Backup  . . N
Auto Dump  . . . N
Overflow. . . . N
Allocation/migration Threshold : High    90   (1-100)  Low . . 
40  (0-99) Alloc/Migr Threshold Track-Managed:       High    85   (1-100)  Low 
. . 1   (0-99) Guaranteed Backup Frequency  . . . . . . NOLIMIT  (1 to  
or NOLIMIT) Can I correctly assume that the above threshold values will be 
ignored because there is no MIGRATION?
Thanks.

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of esmie moo
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 8:38 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: DFHSM QUESTION

 Gentle Readers,
Recently a storage group had reached a 93% level.  I checked the Storage Group 
and this is what I found:
Auto Migrate .. . N
Auto Backup  . . N
Auto Dump  . . . N
Overflow. . . . N
Allocation/migration Threshold : High    90   (1-100)  Low . . 
40  (0-99) Alloc/Migr Threshold Track-Managed:       High    85   (1-100)  Low 
. . 1   (0-99) Guaranteed Backup Frequency  . . . . . . NOLIMIT  (1 to  
or NOLIMIT) Can I correctly assume that the above threshold values will be 
ignored because there is no MIGRATION?
Thanks.

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DFHSM QUESTION

2017-05-25 Thread esmie moo
 Gentle Readers,
Recently a storage group had reached a 93% level.  I checked the Storage Group 
and this is what I found:
Auto Migrate .. . N
Auto Backup  . . N
Auto Dump  . . . N
Overflow. . . . N
Allocation/migration Threshold : High    90   (1-100)  Low . . 
40  (0-99) 
Alloc/Migr Threshold Track-Managed:       High    85   (1-100)  Low . . 1   
(0-99) 
Guaranteed Backup Frequency  . . . . . . NOLIMIT  (1 to  or NOLIMIT)
  
Can I correctly assume that the above threshold values will be ignored because 
there is no MIGRATION?
Thanks.

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECOVER DSN FROM ML2 VOLUME

2016-06-21 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
willie bunter wrote:

>I have great news.  I found the missing dsn and the volser from the 
>HSM.JOURNAL.BACKUP.V0009984 file.  Thanks to all who helped with their 
>suggestions and support.

Excellent! That is a great accomplishment! Another war story! ;-)

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECOVER DSN FROM ML2 VOLUME

2016-06-21 Thread willie bunter
Good Day To All,

I have great news.  I found the missing dsn and the volser from the 
HSM.JOURNAL.BACKUP.V0009984 file.  Thanks to all who helped with their 
suggestions and support.
.

On Mon, 6/20/16, Greg Shirey  wrote:

 Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECOVER DSN FROM ML2 VOLUME
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Received: Monday, June 20, 2016, 5:29 PM
 
 Willie has already posted
 that there is no backup.  The data set along with the
 catalog entry has been deleted - as long as the ML2 tape has
 not been recycled, it can be retrieved from there.  There
 is a documented procedure for doing this in the HSM
 administration manual.   
 
 Regards,
 Greg Shirey
 Ben E. Keith Company 
 
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 June 20, 2016 4:11 PM
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 Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECOVER DSN FROM
 ML2 VOLUME
 
 Just because you
 delete a data set if it has backups they might still be
 there. Try allocating the old DSN as empty and restore from
 a backup. I have done that before.
 
 
 
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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECOVER DSN FROM ML2 VOLUME

2016-06-20 Thread Greg Shirey
Willie has already posted that there is no backup.  The data set along with the 
catalog entry has been deleted - as long as the ML2 tape has not been recycled, 
it can be retrieved from there.  There is a documented procedure for doing this 
in the HSM administration manual.   

Regards,
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Ben E. Keith Company 

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Just because you delete a data set if it has backups they might still be there. 
Try allocating the old DSN as empty and restore from a backup. I have done that 
before.



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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECOVER DSN FROM ML2 VOLUME

2016-06-20 Thread Walter Davies
Just because you delete a data set if it has backups they might still be
there. Try allocating the old DSN as empty and restore from a backup. I
have done that before.

On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 2:02 PM, willie bunter <
001409bd2345-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

> Elardus
>
> The user said that she did a HDEL besides the dsn.  I did a HLIST however
> it was unsuccessful.
>
> I am looking at the suggestion posted earlier about the doc to recover a
> deleted ML2 dsn.
>
> 
> On Mon, 6/20/16, Elardus Engelbrecht 
> wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECOVER DSN FROM ML2 VOLUME
>  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>  Received: Monday, June 20, 2016, 1:58 PM
>
>  willie bunter wrote:
>
>  >I am checking the journal file hoping to find any trace
>  of the dsn.  I don't have a backup of the dsn that is
>  why I am trying to find the ML2 volser.
>
>  Urggg. I feel your pain. As a previous Storage Admin
>  I had to handle those pain.
>
>
>  >I cannot issue the HRECALL because the dsn doesn't
>  exist.  The same reason I cannot issue the HRECOVER
>  because there is no backup.
>
>  Ok. Let us go back. Did you ever issued the HLIST command as
>  kindly suggested by Lizette?
>
>  If so, then I retract my question. Sorry for being
>  bothersome.
>
>  Please show us HOW that dataset was deleted (Post JCL +
>  messages confirming that action).
>
>  Perhaps it was just uncataloged / renamed or such? (SMF
>  audit trails could help you there)
>
>  Or use ISMF to scan your volsers to see if there is a
>  [uncataloged] copy lurking somewhere...
>
>  Perhaps you can scan your tape management system to see if
>  there is a copy sitting somewhere?
>
>  Or do you have any Peer-to-Peer Remote Copy [1] or similar
>  technology? Perhaps there is a version sitting on your
>  remote site?
>
>  Groete / Greetings
>  Elardus Engelbrecht
>
>  [1] - I know that any actions are immediately duplicated to
>  remote, but perhaps the line was hopefully down or
>  something?
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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECOVER DSN FROM ML2 VOLUME

2016-06-20 Thread willie bunter
Elardus 

The user said that she did a HDEL besides the dsn.  I did a HLIST however it 
was unsuccessful.

I am looking at the suggestion posted earlier about the doc to recover a 
deleted ML2 dsn.


On Mon, 6/20/16, Elardus Engelbrecht  wrote:

 Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECOVER DSN FROM ML2 VOLUME
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Received: Monday, June 20, 2016, 1:58 PM
 
 willie bunter wrote:
 
 >I am checking the journal file hoping to find any trace
 of the dsn.  I don't have a backup of the dsn that is
 why I am trying to find the ML2 volser.
 
 Urggg. I feel your pain. As a previous Storage Admin
 I had to handle those pain.
 
 
 >I cannot issue the HRECALL because the dsn doesn't
 exist.  The same reason I cannot issue the HRECOVER
 because there is no backup.
 
 Ok. Let us go back. Did you ever issued the HLIST command as
 kindly suggested by Lizette? 
 
 If so, then I retract my question. Sorry for being
 bothersome.
 
 Please show us HOW that dataset was deleted (Post JCL +
 messages confirming that action). 
 
 Perhaps it was just uncataloged / renamed or such? (SMF
 audit trails could help you there)
 
 Or use ISMF to scan your volsers to see if there is a
 [uncataloged] copy lurking somewhere...
 
 Perhaps you can scan your tape management system to see if
 there is a copy sitting somewhere?
 
 Or do you have any Peer-to-Peer Remote Copy [1] or similar
 technology? Perhaps there is a version sitting on your
 remote site?
 
 Groete / Greetings
 Elardus Engelbrecht
 
 [1] - I know that any actions are immediately duplicated to
 remote, but perhaps the line was hopefully down or
 something?
 
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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECOVER DSN FROM ML2 VOLUME

2016-06-20 Thread Greg Shirey
In the z/OS 1.13 DFSMShsm Storage Admin manual, there is a page titled:   

1.20.9 Case 9: Reestablish access to previously deleted migrated data sets (no 
backup exists, ML2 only)

Here is a link: 

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/dgt2s6a2/1.20.9?SHELF=ALL13BE9&DT=20120808094757

Back when I worked at a shop that had HSM, I had to use this procedure several 
times.  I would assume it is still valid.   
Note, however, that the last step reads: 

" If you follow all steps correctly and you are still unable to recall the data 
set, contact IBM Support."

Regards,
Greg Shirey
Ben E. Keith Company 


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Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 1:48 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECOVER DSN FROM ML2 VOLUME

 

If the problem is the dataset was just plain deleted and there is no longer a 
catalog entry, you need to find a full volume or other DR volume backup for 
recovery.

DFHSM will have nothing available to you.  If there is anything left in DFHSM, 
then either a product like VANTAGE with the DFHSM function included could help. 
 Otherwise contact IBM.


 


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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECOVER DSN FROM ML2 VOLUME

2016-06-20 Thread Lizette Koehler
So I will use an infamous phrase here:  Open an SR with IBM before you do 
anything else.

Sometimes they have tools that can help you or at least provide guidance that 
this list may not be privy to.

Next, you need to know what volume the dataset resided on.
If you do full volume dumps - weekly, monthly or daily - you might have a 
chance to find the dataset.

DFHSM only knows what it knows.  If you did a physical delete and not removed 
the catalog entry, then you should see a LISTC or 3.4 entry for 

Data_set_Deleted_Name MIGRAT

If the problem is the dataset was just plain deleted and there is no longer a 
catalog entry, you need to find a full volume or other DR volume backup for 
recovery.

DFHSM will have nothing available to you.  If there is anything left in DFHSM, 
then either a product like VANTAGE with the DFHSM function included could help. 
 Otherwise contact IBM.


Please explain further what is the specific events and issues.  

Otherwise, open an SR with IBM quick. 

Lizette


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> Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECOVER DSN FROM ML2 VOLUME
> 
> If the dataset was *DELETED* you will have a tough time.
> 
> If the dataset was uncataloged,
> 
> DEF NVSAM(name('dsn') DEVT() VOL(MIGRAT)
> 
> And then recall the dataset.
> 
> 
> I cannot issue the HRECALL because the dsn doesn't exist.  The same reason I
> cannot issue the HRECOVER because there is no backup.
> 
> 
> 

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECOVER DSN FROM ML2 VOLUME

2016-06-20 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 06/20/2016 12:19 PM, willie bunter wrote:
> Hallo to All,
>
> The dsn was migrated about 2 years ago and for some reason it was deleted 
> today (in error).  I am dusting off some old doc and as I had said earlier I 
> am checking to see what I did.  Keep you all posted if I stumble on to 
> something.
>
> 
> On Mon, 6/20/16, Lizette Koehler  wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECOVER DSN FROM ML2 VOLUME
>  To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>  Received: Monday, June 20, 2016, 12:41 PM
>  
>  If your first statement
>  is No BACKUP has been taken, then the file is most likely
>  lost.
>  
>  When was the file
>  migrated?
>  
>  Can you show us
>  the results from a HLIST dsn(/) BOTH 
>  
>  It will help to know when it was migrated.
>  
>  CDS Backups and Journals can
>  be performed anytime.  You just have to know what kind of
>  performance impact will be felt while it is running
>  
>  
>  Lizette
>  
>  
>  > -Original
>  Message-
>  > From: IBM Mainframe
>  Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
>  On
>  > Behalf Of willie bunter
>  > Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 9:35 AM
>  > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
>  > Subject: DFHSM QUESTION - RECOVER DSN FROM
>  ML2 VOLUME
>  > 
>  > Good
>  Day To All,
>  > 
>  > I
>  would like to recover a dsn which was migrated to ML2. 
>  Because of a mistake
>  > in the assigning
>  of the management class no back up was taken.
>  > 
>  > I remember
>  recovering a dsn under the same circumstances.  I remember
>  locating
>  > the dsn in the
>  HSM.JOURNAL.BACKUP.V000 (found in column 13 in HEX) and
>  the
>  > volser of the ML2. (which  I found
>  in column 77)
>  > 
>  > I
>  browsed the online HSM.JOURNAL (using the first and second
>  HLQ)  however I
>  > was unable to locate
>  the dsn.  My question is do I need to wait for the CDS
>  > Journal backup to be run (which will
>  execute tonight at 8 p.m) or is there
>  >
>  something else I can try?
>  > 
>  > Thanks.
>  > 
>  
>  --
> ...
Depending on how desperate you are to recover the data:
If you don't delay and
(1) you act before the physical tape that contained the ML2 data set is
recycled or physically scratched,
(2) you save recent backups of the production DFHSM control data sets
made from before the ML2 data set was deleted, and
(3) you have access to an isolated test z/OS system which has access to
tape drives and on which you can bring up a test DFHSM;

then it should be possible to

ON THE TEST z/OS SYSTEM:
Port the old DFHSM data sets to the test system and bring up DFHSM on
those old data sets with everything HELD except for recall;
optionally set up an isolated user catalog and alias for the lost data set;
catalog (with IDCAMS) the lost data set to VOLSER MIGRAT;
set up any ACS definitions and/or storage pools needed to support a
recall of the data set (this doesn't need to replicate the production
environment as long as the STORCLAS of  the data sets maps to a pool
with adequate space -- don't know if MGMTCLAS and DATACLAS have to be
defined on test system for recall to work);
HRECALL the data set to the test storage pool;
Use dss to make a tape backup of the data set that can be ported back to
production;

ON THE PRODUCTION SYSTEM:
Read and restore the data set from  tape written on test z/OS using dss
on the production system;

ON THE TEST z/OS SYSTEM:
Clean up the no-longer-needed stuff created on the test z/OS system.

This is potentially a lot of work and may require some experimentation
to get all the pieces right.. I'm pretty sure I actually did this once
or twice; but it took the better part of a day and was a long time ago.


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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECOVER DSN FROM ML2 VOLUME

2016-06-20 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
willie bunter wrote:

>I am checking the journal file hoping to find any trace of the dsn.  I don't 
>have a backup of the dsn that is why I am trying to find the ML2 volser.

Urggg. I feel your pain. As a previous Storage Admin I had to handle 
those pain.


>I cannot issue the HRECALL because the dsn doesn't exist.  The same reason I 
>cannot issue the HRECOVER because there is no backup.

Ok. Let us go back. Did you ever issued the HLIST command as kindly suggested 
by Lizette? 

If so, then I retract my question. Sorry for being bothersome.

Please show us HOW that dataset was deleted (Post JCL + messages confirming 
that action). 

Perhaps it was just uncataloged / renamed or such? (SMF audit trails could help 
you there)

Or use ISMF to scan your volsers to see if there is a [uncataloged] copy 
lurking somewhere...

Perhaps you can scan your tape management system to see if there is a copy 
sitting somewhere?

Or do you have any Peer-to-Peer Remote Copy [1] or similar technology? Perhaps 
there is a version sitting on your remote site?

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

[1] - I know that any actions are immediately duplicated to remote, but perhaps 
the line was hopefully down or something?

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECOVER DSN FROM ML2 VOLUME

2016-06-20 Thread Staller, Allan
If the dataset was *DELETED* you will have a tough time.

If the dataset was uncataloged, 

DEF NVSAM(name('dsn') DEVT() VOL(MIGRAT)

And then recall the dataset.


I cannot issue the HRECALL because the dsn doesn't exist.  The same reason I 
cannot issue the HRECOVER because there is no backup.






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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECOVER DSN FROM ML2 VOLUME

2016-06-20 Thread willie bunter
I am checking the journal file hoping to find any trace of the dsn.  I don't 
have a backup of the dsn that is why I am trying to find the ML2 volser.

I cannot issue the HRECALL because the dsn doesn't exist.  The same reason I 
cannot issue the HRECOVER because there is no backup.

On Mon, 6/20/16, retired mainframer  wrote:

 Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECOVER DSN FROM ML2 VOLUME
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Received: Monday, June 20, 2016, 1:05 PM
 
 Why are you looking in
 the JOURNAL?  It contains only "recent" data
 since the last CDS backup.  How long ago was the dataset
 migrated?  To find the DSN, you need to look in the backup
 copy that covers the time frame when the migration
 occurred.  But if you need to look up anything about the
 dataset, you really should be looking in the MCDS.
 
 Why do you think you need to
 know the ML2 volume?  ML2 datasets are catalogued on
 MIGRAT2.  Does the DSN show up in 3.4?
 What
 happens if you issue an HRECALL against the DSN?  If the
 migrated copy is valid, that should be all you need.  
 
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 > Behalf Of willie bunter
 > Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 9:35 AM
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 > Subject: DFHSM QUESTION - RECOVER DSN FROM
 ML2 VOLUME
 > 
 > Good
 Day To All,
 > 
 > I
 would like to recover a dsn which was migrated to ML2. 
 Because of a mistake in the
 > assigning
 of the management class no back up was taken.
 > 
 > I remember
 recovering a dsn under the same circumstances.  I remember
 locating the dsn in
 > the
 HSM.JOURNAL.BACKUP.V000 (found in column 13 in HEX) and
 the volser of
 > the ML2. (which  I found
 in column 77)
 > 
 > I
 browsed the online HSM.JOURNAL (using the first and second
 HLQ)  however I was
 > unable to locate
 the dsn.  My question is do I need to wait for the CDS
 Journal backup to be
 > run (which will
 execute tonight at 8 p.m) or is there something else I can
 try?
 
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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECOVER DSN FROM ML2 VOLUME

2016-06-20 Thread willie bunter
Hallo to All,

The dsn was migrated about 2 years ago and for some reason it was deleted today 
(in error).  I am dusting off some old doc and as I had said earlier I am 
checking to see what I did.  Keep you all posted if I stumble on to something.


On Mon, 6/20/16, Lizette Koehler  wrote:

 Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECOVER DSN FROM ML2 VOLUME
 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 Received: Monday, June 20, 2016, 12:41 PM
 
 If your first statement
 is No BACKUP has been taken, then the file is most likely
 lost.
 
 When was the file
 migrated?
 
 Can you show us
 the results from a HLIST dsn(/) BOTH 
 
 It will help to know when it was migrated.
 
 CDS Backups and Journals can
 be performed anytime.  You just have to know what kind of
 performance impact will be felt while it is running
 
 
 Lizette
 
 
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 > Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 9:35 AM
 > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
 > Subject: DFHSM QUESTION - RECOVER DSN FROM
 ML2 VOLUME
 > 
 > Good
 Day To All,
 > 
 > I
 would like to recover a dsn which was migrated to ML2. 
 Because of a mistake
 > in the assigning
 of the management class no back up was taken.
 > 
 > I remember
 recovering a dsn under the same circumstances.  I remember
 locating
 > the dsn in the
 HSM.JOURNAL.BACKUP.V000 (found in column 13 in HEX) and
 the
 > volser of the ML2. (which  I found
 in column 77)
 > 
 > I
 browsed the online HSM.JOURNAL (using the first and second
 HLQ)  however I
 > was unable to locate
 the dsn.  My question is do I need to wait for the CDS
 > Journal backup to be run (which will
 execute tonight at 8 p.m) or is there
 >
 something else I can try?
 > 
 > Thanks.
 > 
 
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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECOVER DSN FROM ML2 VOLUME

2016-06-20 Thread retired mainframer
Why are you looking in the JOURNAL?  It contains only "recent" data since the 
last CDS backup.  How long ago was the dataset migrated?  To find the DSN, you 
need to look in the backup copy that covers the time frame when the migration 
occurred.  But if you need to look up anything about the dataset, you really 
should be looking in the MCDS.

Why do you think you need to know the ML2 volume?  ML2 datasets are catalogued 
on MIGRAT2.  Does the DSN show up in 3.4?
What happens if you issue an HRECALL against the DSN?  If the migrated copy is 
valid, that should be all you need.  

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> Behalf Of willie bunter
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> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: DFHSM QUESTION - RECOVER DSN FROM ML2 VOLUME
> 
> Good Day To All,
> 
> I would like to recover a dsn which was migrated to ML2.  Because of a 
> mistake in the
> assigning of the management class no back up was taken.
> 
> I remember recovering a dsn under the same circumstances.  I remember 
> locating the dsn in
> the HSM.JOURNAL.BACKUP.V000 (found in column 13 in HEX) and the volser of
> the ML2. (which  I found in column 77)
> 
> I browsed the online HSM.JOURNAL (using the first and second HLQ)  however I 
> was
> unable to locate the dsn.  My question is do I need to wait for the CDS 
> Journal backup to be
> run (which will execute tonight at 8 p.m) or is there something else I can 
> try?

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECOVER DSN FROM ML2 VOLUME

2016-06-20 Thread retired mainframer
Why would the absence of a backup have any impact on the ability to recall a 
migrated dataset?

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> 
> If your first statement is No BACKUP has been taken, then the file is most 
> likely lost.

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECOVER DSN FROM ML2 VOLUME

2016-06-20 Thread Staller, Allan
Why not just HRECALL the dataset?

Of course, if the migrated copy  is the damaged dataset, and there are no 
backups, you are out of luck.




I would like to recover a dsn which was migrated to ML2.  Because of a mistake 
in the assigning of the management class no back up was taken.

I remember recovering a dsn under the same circumstances.  I remember locating 
the dsn in the HSM.JOURNAL.BACKUP.V000 (found in column 13 in HEX) and the 
volser of the ML2. (which  I found in column 77) 

I browsed the online HSM.JOURNAL (using the first and second HLQ)  however I 
was unable to locate the dsn.  My question is do I need to wait for the CDS 
Journal backup to be run (which will execute tonight at 8 p.m) or is there 
something else I can try?


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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RECOVER DSN FROM ML2 VOLUME

2016-06-20 Thread Lizette Koehler
If your first statement is No BACKUP has been taken, then the file is most 
likely lost.

When was the file migrated?

Can you show us the results from a HLIST dsn(/) BOTH 

It will help to know when it was migrated.

CDS Backups and Journals can be performed anytime.  You just have to know what 
kind of performance impact will be felt while it is running


Lizette


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> Behalf Of willie bunter
> Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 9:35 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: DFHSM QUESTION - RECOVER DSN FROM ML2 VOLUME
> 
> Good Day To All,
> 
> I would like to recover a dsn which was migrated to ML2.  Because of a mistake
> in the assigning of the management class no back up was taken.
> 
> I remember recovering a dsn under the same circumstances.  I remember locating
> the dsn in the HSM.JOURNAL.BACKUP.V000 (found in column 13 in HEX) and the
> volser of the ML2. (which  I found in column 77)
> 
> I browsed the online HSM.JOURNAL (using the first and second HLQ)  however I
> was unable to locate the dsn.  My question is do I need to wait for the CDS
> Journal backup to be run (which will execute tonight at 8 p.m) or is there
> something else I can try?
> 
> Thanks.
> 

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DFHSM QUESTION - RECOVER DSN FROM ML2 VOLUME

2016-06-20 Thread willie bunter
Good Day To All,

I would like to recover a dsn which was migrated to ML2.  Because of a mistake 
in the assigning of the management class no back up was taken.

I remember recovering a dsn under the same circumstances.  I remember locating 
the dsn in the HSM.JOURNAL.BACKUP.V000 (found in column 13 in HEX) and the 
volser of the ML2. (which  I found in column 77) 

I browsed the online HSM.JOURNAL (using the first and second HLQ)  however I 
was unable to locate the dsn.  My question is do I need to wait for the CDS 
Journal backup to be run (which will execute tonight at 8 p.m) or is there 
something else I can try?

Thanks.

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION : ARC0036E I/O INHIBITED FOR DFSMSHSM PROBLEM

2015-03-30 Thread Mike Schwab
Just for completeness, here is the technote.
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg3T1012687

On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 8:15 AM, willie bunter
<001409bd2345-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> Hallo All,
>
>  I noticed in the HSM startup the following error messages:
>
> ARC0037I DFSMSHSM PROBLEM DETERMINATION OUTPUT DATA  679
> ARC0037I (CONT.) SETS SWITCHED, ARCPDOX=HSM.HSMPDOXC,
> ARC0037I (CONT.) ARCPDOY=HSM.HSMPDOYC
> IEC145I 413-04,IFG0194A,DFHSMC,DFHSMC,ARCPDOX,8612,SYS226,
> HSM.HSMPDOXC
> ARC0036E I/O INHIBITED FOR DFSMSHSM PROBLEM  682
> ARC0036E (CONT.) DETERMINATION OUTPUT DATA SET, REAS= 3
>
> I checked the error message for ARC0036E and it says the following :
>
> A failure occurred while attempting to open the ARCPDOX data set
>
> It doesn't tell me very much.  I noticed that the dsn is at 16 extents.  
> Could this be the cause of the problem?  If so, I will have to enlargen both 
> PDA dsns.
>
> Could someone shed some light on this?
>
> Thanks.
>
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Re: DFHSM QUESTION : ARC0036E I/O INHIBITED FOR DFSMSHSM PROBLEM

2015-03-30 Thread Willie Bunter
Alan,

Thanks for the tip.  I will reallocate the dsns on the same volume with a 
larger space.  Thanks for the tip.

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION : ARC0036E I/O INHIBITED FOR DFSMSHSM PROBLEM

2015-03-30 Thread Willie Bunter
Allan,

No, they both do not reside on the same volume.  I think someone moved the dsns 
to different volumes.  I will check the SMF records to find out more details.

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION : ARC0036E I/O INHIBITED FOR DFSMSHSM PROBLEM

2015-03-30 Thread Willie Bunter
Lizette,

I scanned through the whole output but there was no  "IEC031I D37-04".  However 
I remember in the past seeing those messages especially when I was migrating 
volumes.  Unfortunately the STC output is only available for the past 2 
startups and both do not have the "IEC031I D37-04"

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION : ARC0036E I/O INHIBITED FOR DFSMSHSM PROBLEM

2015-03-30 Thread Staller, Allan
Additional Information:

The HSMPDO datasets are expected to be re-used by DFhsm. The HSMPDOX/Y datasets 
are toggled  as needed.
I would allocate them a some specific size w/no secondary extents. When HSMPDOX 
is filled, HSM will automatically switch to HSMPDOY.
When HSMPDOY is filled, HSM will automatically switch back to HSMPDOX.

HTH,

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Yes. From the Fine Manual: "DFSMShsm Implementation and Customization Guide 
Version 2 Release 1   PP 41-42_ SC23-6869-01 (z/OS 2.1)"


Storage guidance:
Both the ARCPDOX and ARCPDOY data sets must be on the same volume.
The amount and type of storage you use for your PDA log data sets depends on 
how much trace history you want to keep. To determine the amount and type of 
storage, you can use either the short-term work sheet found in “Problem 
determination aid log data set size work sheet—Short-term trace history” on 
page 388 or the long-term work sheet found in “Problem determination aid log 
data set size work sheet—Long-term trace history” on page 390.


I doubt this is a new requirement. It has most likely been there for eons…


Do both the HSM.HSMPDOXC & HSM.HSMPDOyC have to reside on the same volume?



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2015-03-30 Thread Staller, Allan
Yes. From the Fine Manual: "DFSMShsm Implementation and Customization Guide 
Version 2 Release 1   PP 41-42_ SC23-6869-01 (z/OS 2.1)"


Storage guidance:
Both the ARCPDOX and ARCPDOY data sets must be on the same volume.
The amount and type of storage you use for your PDA log data sets depends
on how much trace history you want to keep. To determine the amount and
type of storage, you can use either the short-term work sheet found in
“Problem determination aid log data set size work sheet—Short-term trace
history” on page 388 or the long-term work sheet found in “Problem
determination aid log data set size work sheet—Long-term trace history” on
page 390.


I doubt this is a new requirement. It has most likely been there for eons…


Do both the HSM.HSMPDOXC & HSM.HSMPDOyC have to reside on the same volume?



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Re: DFHSM QUESTION : ARC0036E I/O INHIBITED FOR DFSMSHSM PROBLEM

2015-03-30 Thread Lizette Koehler
Willie -


Do you have automation in place so that when the PDA gets a D37 it swaps the 
log? 

http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg3T1012687

IEC031I D37-04,IFG0554P,HSM,HSM,ARCPDOX,3099,HSMP05,MYHSM.LPAR7.HSMPDOX 
  

OPS1181O HSM OPSS (*Local*) MVS N/A MESSAGE.ARC0037I START OPSSJOB,N=PDALPAR7   

START OPSSJOB,N=PDALPAR7 

ARC0037I HSM PROBLEM DETERMINATION OUTPUT DATA 968 
ARC0037I (CONT.) SETS SWITCHED, ARCPDOX=MYHSM.LPAR7.HSMPDOX,  
ARC0037I (CONT.) ARCPDOY=MYHSM.LPAR7.HSMPDOY  


Mine at 1500 cylinders each

Lizette


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> PROBLEM
> 
> Lizette,
> 
> I checked last week's STC there is no record of the logs being swapped.  I
> stumbled on some procedures and the first last step in it is to do a HSEND
> SETSYS PDA(ON) and the last step is to do a HSEND SETSYS PDA(OFF)
> 
> I assume that the PDA is set to OFF when the STC starts up.
> 
> The dsns are written on DASD.
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Re: DFHSM QUESTION : ARC0036E I/O INHIBITED FOR DFSMSHSM PROBLEM

2015-03-30 Thread Willie Bunter
Lizette,

Sorry I forgot to answer the question about the size of the dsns.  This is what 
it is at:

Organization  . . . : PS Current Utilization 
Record format . . . : VB  Used cylinders  . . : 158  
Record length . . . : 1024Used extents  . . . : 16   
Block size  . . . . : 27652  
1st extent cylinders: 128
Secondary cylinders : 2  Dates

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION : ARC0036E I/O INHIBITED FOR DFSMSHSM PROBLEM

2015-03-30 Thread Willie Bunter
Lizette,

I checked last week's STC there is no record of the logs being swapped.  I 
stumbled on some procedures and the first last step in it is to do a HSEND 
SETSYS PDA(ON) and the last step is to do a HSEND SETSYS PDA(OFF)

I assume that the PDA is set to OFF when the STC starts up.

The dsns are written on DASD.

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION : ARC0036E I/O INHIBITED FOR DFSMSHSM PROBLEM

2015-03-30 Thread Willie Bunter
I verified the volumes are ONLINE for the PDA dsns.  Something also very 
strange.  I was under the impression that the HSM.HSMPDOXC & the HSM.HSMPDOYC 
were never re-allocated and were reused everytime HSM STC was started up.  For 
some reason I noticed that the dsns were on different volumes the week 
previous.  I will have to check the SMF records to fine the reson.

Do both the HSM.HSMPDOXC & HSM.HSMPDOyC have to reside on the same volume?

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION : ARC0036E I/O INHIBITED FOR DFSMSHSM PROBLEM

2015-03-30 Thread Mike Schwab
Our site have been running into this problem for months.  You can only
have 2 *.HSMPDO* datasets on one volume.  When one fills ups, HSM
switches datasets (via a rename) and a task is submitted to write out
the full one to *.PDA GDG PS dataset.  If one dataset fills up before
the other one is emptied, the writing to the HSMPDO datasets is
stopped and you get this list of messages.  The only solution is to
increase the size of the HSMPDO datasets until you don't get this
message any more.  Suggested sizing per IBM manual is 1-3 hours of
output per HSMPDO.  The problem comes during migration periods where
it is filling and swapping every few minutes until it completes.

On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 8:15 AM, willie bunter
<001409bd2345-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> Hallo All,
>
>  I noticed in the HSM startup the following error messages:
>
> ARC0037I DFSMSHSM PROBLEM DETERMINATION OUTPUT DATA  679
> ARC0037I (CONT.) SETS SWITCHED, ARCPDOX=HSM.HSMPDOXC,
> ARC0037I (CONT.) ARCPDOY=HSM.HSMPDOYC
> IEC145I 413-04,IFG0194A,DFHSMC,DFHSMC,ARCPDOX,8612,SYS226,
> HSM.HSMPDOXC
> ARC0036E I/O INHIBITED FOR DFSMSHSM PROBLEM  682
> ARC0036E (CONT.) DETERMINATION OUTPUT DATA SET, REAS= 3
>
> I checked the error message for ARC0036E and it says the following :
>
> A failure occurred while attempting to open the ARCPDOX data set
>
> It doesn't tell me very much.  I noticed that the dsn is at 16 extents.  
> Could this be the cause of the problem?  If so, I will have to enlargen both 
> PDA dsns.
>
> Could someone shed some light on this?
>
> Thanks.
>
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Re: DFHSM QUESTION : ARC0036E I/O INHIBITED FOR DFSMSHSM PROBLEM

2015-03-30 Thread Lizette Koehler
Willie,

How often do you swap PDA and LOGs for HSM. You should have a process that
will offload them when a B37 occurs.

Is this DASD or TAPE datasets?  If DASD, what is the size/space used?


Lizette


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> Subject: DFHSM QUESTION : ARC0036E I/O INHIBITED FOR DFSMSHSM
> PROBLEM
> 
> Hallo All,
> 
>  I noticed in the HSM startup the following error messages:
> 
> ARC0037I DFSMSHSM PROBLEM DETERMINATION OUTPUT DATA  679
> ARC0037I (CONT.) SETS SWITCHED, ARCPDOX=HSM.HSMPDOXC,
> ARC0037I (CONT.) ARCPDOY=HSM.HSMPDOYC
> IEC145I 413-04,IFG0194A,DFHSMC,DFHSMC,ARCPDOX,8612,SYS226,
> HSM.HSMPDOXC
> ARC0036E I/O INHIBITED FOR DFSMSHSM PROBLEM  682
> ARC0036E (CONT.) DETERMINATION OUTPUT DATA SET, REAS= 3
> 
> I checked the error message for ARC0036E and it says the following :
> 
> A failure occurred while attempting to open the ARCPDOX data set
> 
> It doesn't tell me very much.  I noticed that the dsn is at 16 extents.
Could
> this be the cause of the problem?  If so, I will have to enlargen both PDA
> dsns.
> 
> Could someone shed some light on this?
> 
> Thanks.
> 

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION : ARC0036E I/O INHIBITED FOR DFSMSHSM PROBLEM

2015-03-30 Thread John McKown
The problem is the S413-04 abend. Basically this says that there is a
problem opening with HSM.HSMPDOCX. In particular "not all volumes can
be mounted". What volume is this DSN catalogued on? Is that volume
on-line to your system? We had a similar problem when some
accidentally did a VARY ,OFFLINE and the volume was 'PENDING
OFFLINE' in the D U display. A simple VARY ,ONLINE fixed the
problem for us. Hopefully it is as simple for you.

On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 8:15 AM, willie bunter
<001409bd2345-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> Hallo All,
>
>  I noticed in the HSM startup the following error messages:
>
> ARC0037I DFSMSHSM PROBLEM DETERMINATION OUTPUT DATA  679
> ARC0037I (CONT.) SETS SWITCHED, ARCPDOX=HSM.HSMPDOXC,
> ARC0037I (CONT.) ARCPDOY=HSM.HSMPDOYC
> IEC145I 413-04,IFG0194A,DFHSMC,DFHSMC,ARCPDOX,8612,SYS226,
> HSM.HSMPDOXC
> ARC0036E I/O INHIBITED FOR DFSMSHSM PROBLEM  682
> ARC0036E (CONT.) DETERMINATION OUTPUT DATA SET, REAS= 3
>
> I checked the error message for ARC0036E and it says the following :
>
> A failure occurred while attempting to open the ARCPDOX data set
>
> It doesn't tell me very much.  I noticed that the dsn is at 16 extents.  
> Could this be the cause of the problem?  If so, I will have to enlargen both 
> PDA dsns.
>
> Could someone shed some light on this?
>
> Thanks.
>
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DFHSM QUESTION : ARC0036E I/O INHIBITED FOR DFSMSHSM PROBLEM

2015-03-30 Thread willie bunter
Hallo All,

 I noticed in the HSM startup the following error messages:

ARC0037I DFSMSHSM PROBLEM DETERMINATION OUTPUT DATA  679  
ARC0037I (CONT.) SETS SWITCHED, ARCPDOX=HSM.HSMPDOXC, 
ARC0037I (CONT.) ARCPDOY=HSM.HSMPDOYC 
IEC145I 413-04,IFG0194A,DFHSMC,DFHSMC,ARCPDOX,8612,SYS226,
HSM.HSMPDOXC  
ARC0036E I/O INHIBITED FOR DFSMSHSM PROBLEM  682  
ARC0036E (CONT.) DETERMINATION OUTPUT DATA SET, REAS= 3   

I checked the error message for ARC0036E and it says the following :

A failure occurred while attempting to open the ARCPDOX data set

It doesn't tell me very much.  I noticed that the dsn is at 16 extents.  Could 
this be the cause of the problem?  If so, I will have to enlargen both PDA dsns.

Could someone shed some light on this?

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - EXPIRATION OF DSN

2014-10-30 Thread Ed Gould

Mike:

Since I am not privy to exact announcements. It was clear that this  
would be dynamic in nature (no intervention other than the initial  
entry) . Myself I am not crazy about it in general, as I like volsers  
to show something of the nature of the contents (call me an old fart).
Also, I am not crazy about volsers "popping" into existence like the  
TARDIS I guess.


Ed

PS: I wonder if somehow IBM would relax the 6 character restriction?

On Oct 30, 2014, at 8:28 PM, Mike Schwab wrote:


Correct.  We put in a range of volumes.  Example LGA 001-099.  We then
initialize a few of the volumes, say LGA 001-009.  When these volumes
get to 90% full, and allocations fail, we init volume LGA 010.  Once
online it probably will be used for over half the allocations until it
becomes fairly balanced.

On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 6:26 PM, Ed Gould   
wrote:

On Oct 30, 2014, at 5:33 PM, Mike Schwab wrote:

We put unused volsers into SMS Storage groups then init actual  
volumes

when more space is needed.



--SNIP---
You still have to put them in your ACS routines and DFDSS won't allow
patterning of volsers (AFAIK).

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2014-10-30 Thread Mike Schwab
Correct.  We put in a range of volumes.  Example LGA 001-099.  We then
initialize a few of the volumes, say LGA 001-009.  When these volumes
get to 90% full, and allocations fail, we init volume LGA 010.  Once
online it probably will be used for over half the allocations until it
becomes fairly balanced.

On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 6:26 PM, Ed Gould  wrote:
> On Oct 30, 2014, at 5:33 PM, Mike Schwab wrote:
>
>> We put unused volsers into SMS Storage groups then init actual volumes
>> when more space is needed.
>
>
> --SNIP---
> You still have to put them in your ACS routines and DFDSS won't allow
> patterning of volsers (AFAIK).
>
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2014-10-30 Thread Ed Gould

On Oct 30, 2014, at 5:33 PM, Mike Schwab wrote:


We put unused volsers into SMS Storage groups then init actual volumes
when more space is needed.


--SNIP---
You still have to put them in your ACS routines and DFDSS won't allow  
patterning of volsers (AFAIK).


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2014-10-30 Thread Mike Schwab
We put unused volsers into SMS Storage groups then init actual volumes
when more space is needed.

On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Ed Gould  wrote:
> I don't think so.
> Or if you are right then there are some big issues in the next few years
> that IBM's own products won't be able to support. As an example IBM semi
> announced that "soon" there will be dynamic storage(DASD) expansion and it
> will be done with volser (ex ABC001,ABC002 etc etc) ie adding volsers
> without having to update the ACS routines and DFDSS statements/ or DD JCL
> and this will apparently include DFHSM and any other product that needs
> Backup/restore "generic" volsers.
> DMS had this ability *LONG TIME AGO*.  I don't see any issue about integrity
> with items like that (in fact our DASD boss when the MSS came in worked with
> the DMS people to support the concept of MVSGRP in DMS, IBM never did it.
>
> Ed
>
> On Oct 30, 2014, at 12:48 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
>
>> Ed Gould wrote:
>>
>>> There are still quite a few items that DFDSS hasn't caught up with but
>>> thats a different horse to flog. Although I was reading an article about
>>> z/OS and there are a few things percolating up the like dynamic DASD and the
>>> like that will make us wonder why it took so long.
>>
>>
>> Possible reasons: Backward compatibility issues? No business case to catch
>> up? Integrity issues?
>>
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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - EXPIRATION OF DSN

2014-10-30 Thread Ed Gould

I don't think so.
Or if you are right then there are some big issues in the next few  
years that IBM's own products won't be able to support. As an example  
IBM semi announced that "soon" there will be dynamic storage(DASD)  
expansion and it will be done with volser (ex ABC001,ABC002 etc etc)  
ie adding volsers without having to update the ACS routines and DFDSS  
statements/ or DD JCL and this will apparently include DFHSM and any  
other product that needs Backup/restore "generic" volsers.
DMS had this ability *LONG TIME AGO*.  I don't see any issue about  
integrity with items like that (in fact our DASD boss when the MSS  
came in worked with the DMS people to support the concept of MVSGRP  
in DMS, IBM never did it.


Ed

On Oct 30, 2014, at 12:48 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:


Ed Gould wrote:

There are still quite a few items that DFDSS hasn't caught up with  
but thats a different horse to flog. Although I was reading an  
article about z/OS and there are a few things percolating up the  
like dynamic DASD and the like that will make us wonder why it  
took so long.


Possible reasons: Backward compatibility issues? No business case  
to catch up? Integrity issues?


Groete / Greetings
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2014-10-29 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Ed Gould wrote:

>There are still quite a few items that DFDSS hasn't caught up with but thats a 
>different horse to flog. Although I was reading an article about z/OS and 
>there are a few things percolating up the like dynamic DASD and the like that 
>will make us wonder why it took so long.

Possible reasons: Backward compatibility issues? No business case to catch up? 
Integrity issues?

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - EXPIRATION OF DSN

2014-10-29 Thread Ed Gould

On Oct 29, 2014, at 6:44 PM, Gibney, Dave wrote:
-- 
SNIP- 
-
  From the comment it could have been a dataset that didn't have a  
local

standard name.
I had a standard (DASD) that if it didn't have a valid dsorg it  
was deleted. I

regularly went through and deleted them.


25 years ago or more, so did I. With SMS, HSM and DSROG via a  
DEFAULT DATACLAS, I don't have to do this manual deletion of  
obvious errors.


Ahhh the luxury of SMS I could have done so as well, BTW it was not a  
manual effort but a production job that ran once a day (DMS) and it  
was fully automatic.


I disliked DMS for a lot of reasons but it did have a lot of features  
that it took DFDSS 25+ years to catch up up with There are still  
quite a few items that DFDSS hasn't caught up with but thats a  
different horse to flog . Although I was reading an article about Z/ 
os and there are a few things percolating up the like dynamic DASD  
and the like that will make us wonder why it took so long.


Ed

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - EXPIRATION OF DSN

2014-10-29 Thread z/OS scheduler
Esmie,

If I am you, I will do the following to find out for myself what the state
of affairs are.

I will create a dataset with

Expiration Attributes

   Expire after Days Non-usage  . : 10
   Expire after Date/Days . . . . : NOLIMIT
   Retention Limit  . . . . . . . : 0

Migration Attributes
  Primary Days Non-usage  . : 4
  Level 1 Days Date/Days  . : 7
  Command or Auto Migrate . : BOTH

And see what happens in the 10 days.
There is nothing like the satisfaction of trying it and finding the answer
yourself.

Greetings

James


2014-10-29 11:32 GMT+00:00 esmie moo :

> Good Morning Gentle Readers,
>
> I have a question about the expiration of a dsn by HSM.  The rule says the
> following :
>
>  Expiration Attributes
>
>Expire after Days Non-usage  . : 540
>Expire after Date/Days . . . . : NOLIMIT
>Retention Limit  . . . . . . . : 0
>
> However the Migration attributes are as follows:
>
> Migration Attributes
>   Primary Days Non-usage  . : 4
>   Level 1 Days Date/Days  . : 7
>   Command or Auto Migrate . : BOTH
>
> My question is will HSM delete the dsn if it is NOT migrated?  I think
> that the DSN needs to be migrated in order for HSM to delte the dsn.  Could
> anybody confirm my comprehension or mis-comprehension should it be the case?
>
> Thanks.
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2014-10-29 Thread Gibney, Dave
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> On Behalf Of Ed Gould
> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 4:19 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - EXPIRATION OF DSN
> 
> On Oct 29, 2014, at 6:14 PM, Gibney, Dave wrote:
> 
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-
> m...@listserv.ua.edu]
> >> On Behalf Of Ed Gould
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 4:04 PM
> >> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> >> Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - EXPIRATION OF DSN
> >>
> >> On Oct 29, 2014, at 4:39 PM, R.S. wrote:
> >>
> >>> W dniu 2014-10-29 o 18:47, Gibney, Dave pisze:
> >>>> HSM will happily back-up empty datasets. INVALID datasets are
> >>>> another matter. But, it is an easy matter to define a DEFAULT
> >>>> DATACLAS with DSORG=PS and never have another invalid dataset.
> >>>>
> >>> True.
> >>> However I would prefer to have some feature to avoid creation of
> >>> invalid datasets.
> >>> I saw a lot of invalid datasets and none of them was really need by
> >>> the creator.
> >>>
> >>
> >> R.S.
> >>   Define invalid datasets, please.
> >
> > From HSM's perspective, they lack a DSORG. Most frequently created by
> > JCL where the program doesn't actually OPEN the output file for some
> > reason.
> > On non-SMS disk, they can also lack an EOF mark with older z/OS (or
> > perhaps OS390)
> >
> 
>   From the comment it could have been a dataset that didn't have a local
> standard name.
> I had a standard (DASD) that if it didn't have a valid dsorg it was deleted. I
> regularly went through and deleted them.

25 years ago or more, so did I. With SMS, HSM and DSROG via a DEFAULT DATACLAS, 
I don't have to do this manual deletion of obvious errors.

> 
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2014-10-29 Thread Ed Gould

On Oct 29, 2014, at 6:14 PM, Gibney, Dave wrote:


-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 4:04 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - EXPIRATION OF DSN

On Oct 29, 2014, at 4:39 PM, R.S. wrote:


W dniu 2014-10-29 o 18:47, Gibney, Dave pisze:
HSM will happily back-up empty datasets. INVALID datasets are  
another

matter. But, it is an easy matter to define a DEFAULT DATACLAS with
DSORG=PS and never have another invalid dataset.


True.
However I would prefer to have some feature to avoid creation of
invalid datasets.
I saw a lot of invalid datasets and none of them was really need by
the creator.



R.S.
  Define invalid datasets, please.


From HSM's perspective, they lack a DSORG. Most frequently created  
by JCL where the program doesn't actually OPEN the output file for  
some reason.
On non-SMS disk, they can also lack an EOF mark with older z/OS (or  
perhaps OS390)




 From the comment it could have been a dataset that didn't have a  
local standard name.
I had a standard (DASD) that if it didn't have a valid dsorg it was  
deleted. I regularly went through and deleted them.


Ed

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - EXPIRATION OF DSN

2014-10-29 Thread Gibney, Dave
> -Original Message-
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> On Behalf Of Ed Gould
> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 4:04 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - EXPIRATION OF DSN
> 
> On Oct 29, 2014, at 4:39 PM, R.S. wrote:
> 
> > W dniu 2014-10-29 o 18:47, Gibney, Dave pisze:
> >> HSM will happily back-up empty datasets. INVALID datasets are another
> >> matter. But, it is an easy matter to define a DEFAULT DATACLAS with
> >> DSORG=PS and never have another invalid dataset.
> >>
> > True.
> > However I would prefer to have some feature to avoid creation of
> > invalid datasets.
> > I saw a lot of invalid datasets and none of them was really need by
> > the creator.
> >
> 
> R.S.
>   Define invalid datasets, please.

>From HSM's perspective, they lack a DSORG. Most frequently created by JCL 
>where the program doesn't actually OPEN the output file for some reason.
On non-SMS disk, they can also lack an EOF mark with older z/OS (or perhaps 
OS390)

> 
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2014-10-29 Thread Ed Gould

On Oct 29, 2014, at 4:39 PM, R.S. wrote:


W dniu 2014-10-29 o 18:47, Gibney, Dave pisze:
HSM will happily back-up empty datasets. INVALID datasets are  
another matter. But, it is an easy matter to define a DEFAULT  
DATACLAS with DSORG=PS and never have another invalid dataset.



True.
However I would prefer to have some feature to avoid creation of  
invalid datasets.
I saw a lot of invalid datasets and none of them was really need by  
the creator.




R.S.
 Define invalid datasets, please.

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2014-10-29 Thread Gibney, Dave


> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 2:39 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - EXPIRATION OF DSN
> 
> W dniu 2014-10-29 o 18:47, Gibney, Dave pisze:
> > HSM will happily back-up empty datasets. INVALID datasets are another
> matter. But, it is an easy matter to define a DEFAULT DATACLAS with
> DSORG=PS and never have another invalid dataset.
> >
> True.
> However I would prefer to have some feature to avoid creation of invalid
> datasets.
> I saw a lot of invalid datasets and none of them was really need by the
> creator.
> 

A side effect of doing this is that you can also eliminate MODLDSCB's for 
Generation datasets.
 
>  From the other hand such common issues gave me a lot of consultant work ;-)
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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - EXPIRATION OF DSN

2014-10-29 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2014-10-29 o 18:47, Gibney, Dave pisze:

HSM will happily back-up empty datasets. INVALID datasets are another matter. 
But, it is an easy matter to define a DEFAULT DATACLAS with DSORG=PS and never 
have another invalid dataset.


True.
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datasets.
I saw a lot of invalid datasets and none of them was really need by the 
creator.



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HSM will happily back-up empty datasets. INVALID datasets are another matter. 
But, it is an easy matter to define a DEFAULT DATACLAS with DSORG=PS and never 
have another invalid dataset.

> -Original Message-
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> 
> Bob,
> 
> We have a similar situation at our end.  There is a dsn with the following
> atribute:
> 
> Expire after Days Non-usage  . : 365.
> 
> Migration Attributes
>   Primary Days Non-usage  . : 2
>   Level 1 Days Date/Days  . : 10
>   Command or Auto Migrate . : BOTH
> 
> What if the DSN is empty and not backed (because HSM doesn't backup empty
> dsns) would the dsn be deleted after 365 days non-usage / non referenced?
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2014-10-29 Thread Willie Bunter
Thanks for the tip.  This is very handy.

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2014-10-29 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Staller, Allan wrote:

>Expire means deleted and uncatalogued. 

Thanks. That will settle some burning issues with my storage admin who think it 
is RACF, but I could prove it is HSM. 

>Backups (if any) are handled as described in the MGMTCLAS for the dataset. 
>This is an entirely different set of processing. 

Yes, thanks for refreshing my memory. One of my DBAs found out too late there 
were no HSM backups for his *important* datasets. He could restore from an old 
DFDSS backup his old versions, rebuild the members and he is back in business.

Who said this? "He who has backup, laugh the last and loudest!"

Much appreciated!
 
Groete / Greetings 
Elardus Engelbrecht 

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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - EXPIRATION OF DSN

2014-10-29 Thread Staller, Allan
Expire means deleted and uncatalogued.

Backups (if any) are handled as described in the MGMTCLAS for the dataset. 
This is an entirely different set of processing.


Staller, Allan wrote:

>Minor correction:

Thanks.

>After 4 days of non-usage, the dsn *will* migrate to ML1. 
>After 7  days of non-usage, it will migrate to ML2.  If not already migrated 
>to ML1, it will migrate directly to ML2.
>After 540 days, it will expire.

Just a little question if you don't mind, please:

'expire' - does it means it is deleted and uncataloged?

What about its backup(s)? Will it stays (with later HBDEL) or not? 

Ok, I will migrate back to under my rock...

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht


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Re: DFHSM QUESTION - EXPIRATION OF DSN

2014-10-29 Thread Willie Bunter
Thank you Bob.

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