Re: MVMUA meeting October 19, 2010
Bill, hope to attend with check in hand --- On Fri, 10/1/10, Bill Munson william.mun...@bbh.com wrote: From: Bill Munson william.mun...@bbh.com Subject: MVMUA meeting October 19, 2010 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Friday, October 1, 2010, 10:25 AM The fourth quarter meeting of the Metropolitan VM and LINUX Users Association will be on Tuesday October 19, 2010 at Brown Brothers Harriman in Jersey City. Here is the link to the agenda, directions, and security procedures http://www2.marist.edu/~mvmua/2010oct.html please let me know if you are attending thanx Bill Munson Sr. z/VM Systems Programmer Brown Brothers Harriman CO. 525 Washington Blvd. Jersey City, NJ 07310 201-418-7588 President - MVMUA http://www2.marist.edu/~mvmua/ VM Project Officer - SHARE http://www.linkedin.com/in/BillMunson *** IMPORTANT NOTE*-- The opinions expressed in this message and/or any attachments are those of the author and not necessarily those of Brown Brothers Harriman Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates (BBH). There is no guarantee that this message is either private or confidential, and it may have been altered by unauthorized sources without your or our knowledge. Nothing in the message is capable or intended to create any legally binding obligations on either party and it is not intended to provide legal advice. BBH accepts no responsibility for loss or damage from its use, including damage from virus.
Zenterprise ... and what's next.
I just listened to the virtual telecast of the new IBM ZEnterprise system (or group of systems) as IBM would call it…a system of systems integrating a mainframe with blade servers. I have to admit it’s interesting and it’s going after the virtualization market. Looks like it could be targeted against VMware. The high end mainframe is water cooled and has to be expensive but it is quite capable. Looks like it will have a powerful interface to manage blades etc. So, the comment I might have made in the past about IBM trying to help management trim down the size of the systems programming staffs might hold some water. If you can manage the mainframe and blade farm with a new integrated group of systems type people why have multiple client/server people and mainframe people? Pick the best from both sides and combine them into one group and get rid of the dead wood. That’s my take at first glance; don’t shoot me.
Artical should be read 'zNEXT'
http://www.sys-con.com/node/1453414 Some information about the new Z machine(S). Systems people! buckle you belts. For some the ride over the last few years has been tough but it looks like it might get even worse should this article stand to have some teeth in it. Some might have already have additional information about these machines, care to share?
Re: Artical should be read 'zNEXT'
Well...so much for that post. Guess we will just have to wait and see what pops out. --- On Thu, 7/8/10, Dave Jones d...@vsoft-software.com wrote: From: Dave Jones d...@vsoft-software.com Subject: Re: Artical should be read 'zNEXT' To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Thursday, July 8, 2010, 1:17 PM No, it's to stop male readers dead in their tracks and actually read the article, Marcy:-). It worked on me. DJ On 07/08/2010 12:15 PM, Marcy Cortes wrote: LOL. And what's with the dark glasses and hair blowing in the wind? Is that supposed to enhance credibility? From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of O'Brien, Dennis L Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 10:13 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Artical should be read 'zNEXT' Note that this article is from Maureen O'Gara, who bears the same resemblance to a journalist that an 8086 does to a z10. She's consistently snide for no reason, and makes things up as she goes along when she doesn't have the facts. Ah, the Rita Skeeter of computer journalism. -- Dave Jones V/Soft www.vsoft-software.com Houston, TX 281.578.7544
Re: CICS and z/VM
Thanks all for the information. I've been installing CICS and writing Assembler code for CICS transactions since the '70's on DOS OS's and other MVS releases, but I had never heard of a CICS to run on VM. Hearst Corp. had a number of 360 machines of various sizes and started to use CICS/DOS in the '70's and I loved it. To bad I missed that boat, I would have loved to have a crack at CICS/VM. Live and learn, I would like to be around 20,15, 50 years from now to see where z/VM and CICS is at. BTW, loved macro level CICS programming. --- On Wed, 6/23/10, Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com wrote: From: Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com Subject: Re: CICS and z/VM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 10:50 PM Too cool for real life apparently. Not archived... We shoud say recycled, reclaimed, reused for stuff like complex networking and security work! Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 6:51 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] CICS and z/VM On Wednesday, 06/23/2010 at 07:03 EDT, Ron Schmiedge ron.schmie...@gmail.com wrote: There was. Announced in 1985 and EOS was Dec 31 1993. Program Product 5684-011. Wow. Good ol' CICS/VM. I did some testing of CICS/VM R3, ca. 1989, which never saw the light of day. It was a pretty cool product (hey, it used SFS!) and at that time I still remembered how to write CICS applications. Those brain cells have since been archived. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
CICS and z/VM
A friend of mine stated that CICS can run native under z/VM with z/OS being present. I find this hard to believe and have never heard of this being done in any size, shape or form. I think he is blowing wind. Can anyone comment on this. If there is any truth in this please advise where I can find some documentation on this. Thanks
Re: Tape Manager for z/VM
Mark, I know this reply is late on but if you are using the z/VM Backup/Restore product from IBM and can't find some messages call IBM support. This product is from Rocket software and generally IBM passes the problem back to Rocket for answers. I had some of the same problems with their software but did get answers from Rocket. Hope this not helps...somewhat. --- On Mon, 6/7/10, Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mark Pace mpac...@gmail.com Subject: Tape Manager for z/VM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Monday, June 7, 2010, 2:57 PM Does anyone know where error messages for Tape Manager are documented?I've looked in the only 2 manuals I can findIBM Tape Manager for z/VM Installation Administration Guide V1R2 IBM Tape Manager for z/VM User's Guide and Reference V1R2 No luck finding - EUMTAP0236E TMRMM communication error - Rc 101 Rsn RMM AGENT CONNECTION ERROR -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317
Re: What does the job market look like out there?
You got it right Lerret. In the NYC area maybe there are 2 dozen mainframe shops (not all z/VM) and very few jobs...if any contract and not full time. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. --- On Wed, 5/26/10, Lerret, Anker anker.ler...@bcbsma.com wrote: From: Lerret, Anker anker.ler...@bcbsma.com Subject: Re: What does the job market look like out there? To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Wednesday, May 26, 2010, 3:59 PM H. Interesting. I'm contemplating a career switch from AIX/Linux back to zVM (after a 15 year absence). Maybe that isn't such a hot idea. Anker Lerret Hewlett-Packard (nee EDS)
z/Linux Meeting June 1, 2010
Greetings all, I heard that there will be a z/Linux meeting in NYC on June 1, 2010. Can any one advise who to contact with regard to registering for this event? Thanks.
Re: z/Linux Meeting June 1, 2010
Thanks Pamela, Now registered. --- On Wed, 5/19/10, Pamela Christina from cloudy Endicott NY chris...@gdlvm7.vnet.ibm.com wrote: From: Pamela Christina from cloudy Endicott NY chris...@gdlvm7.vnet.ibm.com Subject: z/Linux Meeting June 1, 2010 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 10:59 AM Howard, you'll find a link to a June 1 NYC event on the events calendar on the z/VM page http://www.vm.ibm.com/events The June 1 events page has a register button about half way down the page. Regards, Pam C
Re: acm/vmware
Well we have to all remember that z/VM, z/OS and the like are all niche markets. I love to go the MVMUG (NYC area) and hear IBM people tell us about the wonderful things that z/VM is doing and what it will do in the future, but we all have to keep in mind that relatively speaking mainframes are few and far between. However, after MVMUG IBM presentations, some how it still gives me hope that z/VM will survive well into the future in one form or another. --- On Mon, 4/5/10, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com wrote: From: Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com Subject: Re: acm/vmware To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 3:11 PM No argument here. One reason it is so tough is that some shops would require that every word pass through a legal department filter. His makes the real burden one of distinguishing between dragons and windmills. Regards, Richard Schuh -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Gabe Goldberg Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 11:07 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: acm/vmware But it's generally tough recruiting profile subjects, even though the process isn't burdensome or threatening. Sites can give enough detail to convincingly demonstrate (not describe or explain, there's a difference) why mainframes have been valuable to them. But proprietary/competitive/sensitive information need not be included. It's not investigative journalism and profile authors aren't 60 Minutes' Mike Wallace.
Re: CP's Parm Disks
Sorry to be late on this but Mikethis one is a keeper. Thanks for the bits... --- On Fri, 3/5/10, Mike Walter mike.wal...@hewitt.com wrote: From: Mike Walter mike.wal...@hewitt.com Subject: Re: CP's Parm Disks To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Friday, March 5, 2010, 10:45 AM There any many ways to do this, each with their own merits. Understanding how SERVICE and PUT2PROD silently update the CF1 and CF2 disks is important. I prefer to think of CF2 as a resource to be used only if CF1 gets trashed (my human, hardware, or any other error). I wrote a local EXEC to keep CF1 and CF2 synched (other that SYSTEM CONFIG there are not a lot of frequent changes),. Instead of making he CF2 the regular backup, I COPY the old SYSTEM CONFIG to -1SYSTEM CONFIG (with rolling renames up to -9SYSTEM CONFIG so we can go back up to 9 changes). Same with CPLOAD MODULE as -1CPLOAD MODULE, and any other changes files although they are handled manually since there are far fewer changes to them. That local exec also automatically runs CPSYNTAX on the new SYSTEM CONFIG file before exiting, providing clear warnings if it did not end normally. Hint: you *do* faithfully run CPSYNTAX after *every* SYSTEM CONFIG file change, even 1-lines', right? If the Operator needs to back out for some reason, they are instructed to call z/VM support first. We don't want them blindly backing out an important change without involving someone who might instead take corrective action. If they need to back out a changed file, we explain how to do so by IPLing with LOADPARM rdev and using SALIPL to select from the various backup -nSYSTEM CONFIG or -nCPLOAD MODULEs. IBM's method of copying CF1 to CF2 (SERVICE (?) and PUT2PROD) only provides one backout layer. So far our operators have never needed to use the CF2 disk. Mike Walter Hewitt Associates The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. Lesseg, Jon jon.les...@pacificorp.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 03/05/2010 09:11 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: CP's Parm Disks Bill, Thanks for clarifying this. The SERVICE and PUT2PROD is still a black box for me at this time. I'll keep my own copies of SYSTEM CONFIG pre changes also. It's nice to know there are knowledgeable folks with real world experience out there to bounce questions to. This may be just the beginning of a bunch of questions to the list as I work to get my head around this VM creature. Thanks again. Jon L -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Bill Munson Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 5:03 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: CP's Parm Disks Jon, When you update anything on CF1 it is CURRENT for the next IPL. the parm disks CF2 and CF3 are backup disks that you can IPL from if you need to GO BACK for any reason. I would not copy anything from CF1 to CF2 or CF3 myself. When you apply SERVICE and PUT2PROD this will copy CF1 to CF2 to be used as the new back up and CF2 is copied to CF3. I believe that is the correct order anyway it is copied for you by the Service process and that is the answer to your original question. good luck Bill Munson Sr. z/VM Systems Programmer Brown Brothers Harriman CO. 525 Washington Blvd. Jersey City, NJ 07310 201-418-7588 President - MVMUA http://www2.marist.edu/~mvmua/ VM Project Officer - SHARE http://seattle.share.org/joinme http://www.linkedin.com/in/BillMunson Lesseg, Jon jon.les...@pacificorp.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 03/04/2010 05:28 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject CP's Parm Disks This is probably a bonehead question, so please have patience as I?m new to VM. When I update SYSTEM CONFIG on MNTCF1 after releasing and linking and setting access, am I responsible to update the copies on MNTCF2 MNTCF3 after I?m comfortable with the results using something like COPYFILE or is it maintained for me? Q CPD Label Userid Vdev Mode Stat Vol-ID Rdev Type StartLoc EndLoc MNTCF1 MAINT 0CF1 A R/O 520RES FF0C CKD 39 158 MNTCF2 MAINT 0CF2 B R/O 520RES FF0C CKD 159 278 MNTCF3 MAINT 0CF3 C R/O 520RES FF0C CKD 279 398 THX, Jon L. -- This email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else, unless expressly approved by the sender or an authorized addressee, is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action omitted or taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you believe
Re: acm/vmware
Well the simple reason you see VMware all over the place is because there are 10-100 times or more PC type computers and IBM server type computers which can easily run VMware. Seton Hall University dumped their mainframe and now is running the entire IT operation on some what larger IBM servers and blades; seems to be working for them. BTW, they tied me to the mainframe when they rolled it out the door along with my job. It is what it is… --- On Wed, 3/31/10, Barton Robinson bar...@vm1.velocity-software.com wrote: From: Barton Robinson bar...@vm1.velocity-software.com Subject: acm/vmware To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 11:07 AM The listserv sent me a message my post didn't go out, so try again. If you go to conferences such as CMG (Computer Management Group), that has been a mainframe organization (meaning MVS or z/OS) since it started, our VM has never been represented, but VMWare now has many sessions. It's depressing to see 80 people in entry level performance session for VMWare and no z/VM sessions on the agenda of a mainframe conference. Early this year I was hearing ads for VMWare on the local radio station. I can only assume that VM is being outmarketed worldwide (or at least that VMWare is being marketed worldwide and VM is not marketed publicly at all). It doesn't matter if our mousetrap is better if nobody is out there trying to get mindshare (marketing). Preaching/grumbling to the choir doesn't change anything. So when was the last time that any of you tried to get a case study published showing how great your accomplishments are using z/VM? There are very few published stories (sorry games on z don't impress bean counters or executives, it's rather demeaning), we need REAL business case studies showing the value of z/VM to real companies. If we get enough and executives do a google search on VM, maybe they will find something useful? There are many places to post and publish. Even twitter or blogs would be helpful in getting mindshare.
Re: Linux on z/VM
Billy, Why not get some experience with a free version of SUSE 11.2 before you implement it on z/VM. Down load a DVD image of the distro and install it on your PC where you can fool around the install before you install SLES 11 to you Z system. --- On Mon, 2/15/10, Billy Bingham billy.bingham...@suddenlink.net wrote: From: Billy Bingham billy.bingham...@suddenlink.net Subject: Linux on z/VM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Monday, February 15, 2010, 1:22 PM I would like to install Linux on z/VM, but I'm not sure what distribution to use. Is there a free version of SuSE or RedHat Linux that I can download to do this? Do I need to license a distribution from the vendor (SuSE or RedHat)? Thanks, Billy
Re: Hi everybody
Rich, Just curious about you comment in this post about not liking to even have user maint have an ‘A’ class privilege. Who then would you suggest having a class A privilege? None of the other user id’s have class A … Operator? I never had any issues with user id Maint having all the available privileges as only the z/VM sysprogs use Maint and if you can’t trust them then who? --- On Thu, 2/4/10, Rich Greenberg ric...@panix.com wrote: From: Rich Greenberg ric...@panix.com Subject: Re: Hi everybody To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Thursday, February 4, 2010, 12:20 PM On: Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 06:00:37PM +0100,Mario Izaguirre Wrote: } I'm login with my user-id (maiz) } send ftpgest0 close cons } } HCPSEC068E SEND command failed; receiver has not authorized sender } } Ready(00068); T=0.01/0.01 17:58:43 You need to add the proper VM privledge class to your ID. Easiest way is just duplicate the classes MAINT has. BE CARFULL I don't like class A on either MAINT or your ID as it TOO powerful. Many of us have unintentionally shut VM down at one time. Rarely twice. You can always add it with SET PRIV if you REALLY need it. -- Rich Greenberg N Ft Myers, FL, USA richgr atsign panix.com + 1 239 543 1353 Eastern time. N6LRT I speak for myself my dogs only. VM'er since CP-67 Canines:Val, Red, Shasta Casey (RIP), Red Zero, Siberians Owner:Chinook-L Retired at the beach Asst Owner:Sibernet-L
Re: First time DR excercise
Martin, At the bank I had worked for before being laid off, we used a DR Sysconfig and Dr Directory. We did not have use of the whole box. Our z/VM ran under the DR centers z/VM (second level, performance was acceptable) our z/OS and z/VSE run in separate LPARS. Only thing you always have to remember is to keep the DR files at you home site in sync with the configuration at the DR site up to date so you won’t have to scramble around and DR time. Also, ask the DR people to advise you well in advance as to what hardware changes they have mae3 relative to your DR account. Of course this should all take place during you pre test conversations with the DR people. Also, why don’t you make things simple and use DDR to back up all the Linux DASD. I haven’t gotten my hands on a z/VM system since September but isn’t DFDSS on available on z/OS? With DDR you can IPL DDR off and IPL’able tape and you are flying…DFDSS don’t you need z/OS?? Best of luck with your test. --- On Mon, 2/1/10, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) terry.mar...@cms.hhs.gov wrote: From: Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) terry.mar...@cms.hhs.gov Subject: First time DR excercise To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Monday, February 1, 2010, 3:03 PM Hi I am getting ready for my first DR exercise with z/VM and z/Linux since we went live about a year and half ago. I am trying to figure out some of the basic steps that need to be done. I am using our Production LPAR as the clone for the DR test. Some questions I have are: 1. Should I just restore the z/VM packs at the DR site as is. That is , use the same DIRECTORY and SYS CONFIG files from the Cloned Production system or should I come up with a DR DIRECTORY and SYS CONFIG file? 2. If I use the DIRECTORY and SYS CONFIG files as is can I leave entries such as the PAGE packs in the SYS CONFIG and IPL, in other words will I have problem IPLING with these page packs defined if they are not present on the DR system? Do I need at least one page pack defined in the SYS CONFIG to come up? 3. I had planned on backing up my SPOOL volumes from the Clone system and restoring them as is. 4. I am using DFDSS on the DR z/OS floor system to restore all of the z/VM volumes. I backed them up with DFDSS on the home production system. 5. We are planning on bringing up one z/Linux guest during this test. I will backup the z/Linux DASD using DFDSS also. 6. When I INIT the packs at the DR site is there anything special I need to be aware of? If there is anything else you think may be helpful please let me know. I know there have been posts on this subject in the past but I did not run across some of my specifics. Thank You, Terry Martin Lockheed Martin - Citic z/OS and z/VM Performance Tuning and Operating Systems Support Office - 443 348-2102 Cell - 443 632-4191 WFH - Wed and Fri.
Re: The return of the mainframe....
O.K. the mainframe is back…IBM mainframe revenue was down around 9% last year. Who is adding mainframes to their computing inventory these days? Organizations are banging on IBM’s door to order mainframes…of any flavor! So where are the jobs to support these new processors? --- On Fri, 1/15/10, Dave Jones d...@vsoft-software.com wrote: From: Dave Jones d...@vsoft-software.com Subject: The return of the mainframe To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 9:01 PM Interesting article in The Economist about the return of the mainframe.. The return of the mainframe Back in fashion http://www.economist.com/businessfinance/displaystory.cfm?story_id=15276714 (watch for line wrap) -- Dave Jones V/Soft www.vsoft-software.com Houston, TX 281.578.7544
Re: MVMUA meeting Ja nuary 19, 2010
Hi Bill, Still not much doing with a job but I have gotten some calls so far this month. Would you be kind enough to add me to you guest list for the meeting on the 19th. Thanks much appreciated. Regards...Howard Rifkind, Vuquest Internet Services Consulting. --- On Wed, 1/6/10, Bill Munson william.mun...@bbh.com wrote: From: Bill Munson william.mun...@bbh.com Subject: MVMUA meeting January 19, 2010 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Wednesday, January 6, 2010, 9:16 AM Friends, The next meeting of the Metropolitan VM Users Association will be: Tuesday January 19, 2010 at Brown Brothers Harriman in Jersey City http://www2.marist.edu/~mvmua/2010jan.html Please contact ME for if you would like to attend thanx Bill Munson 201-418-7588 President MVMUA http://www2.marist.edu/~mvmua/ http://www.linkedin.com/in/BillMunson *** IMPORTANT NOTE*-- The opinions expressed in this message and/or any attachments are those of the author and not necessarily those of Brown Brothers Harriman Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates (BBH). There is no guarantee that this message is either private or confidential, and it may have been altered by unauthorized sources without your or our knowledge. Nothing in the message is capable or intended to create any legally binding obligations on either party and it is not intended to provide legal advice. BBH accepts no responsibility for loss or damage from its use, including damage from virus.
Re: Moving on: The University of Maine (System) shuts down mainframe
Well, best of luck. Of course it’s disheartening to see another VM shop bite the dust but that’s the way things seem to be going these days. Perhaps this is a sign of the times. Of course there will, for the most part, be mainframes around for those organizations which require lots of horse power but that doesn’t translate into an increase in mainframe shops running z/VM and/or z/OS. As we all know, IBM mainframe sales were down last year. And most of all, this situation doesn’t translate into new mainframe jobs of any flavor, whether they be for older highly experience Systems Programmers or some newbie fresh out of college who has taken some classes in a program IBM has formulated. All what we have here is a situation were there is a pool of both experienced systems programmers and would be systems programmers who are unemployed. --- On Tue, 1/5/10, Richard Troth vmcow...@gmail.com wrote: From: Richard Troth vmcow...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Moving on: The University of Maine (System) shuts down mainframe To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 2:34 PM Dave -- This is ridiculous. Do you really want to start a religious war on the value of Windows ... on this discussion list? To your two points, cost and flexibility, I dig in for further analysis as follows. COST Windows is not more cost effective. It carries a finer grained price point profile than MVS or VM or even most Unix. But it is hardly cost effective (for servers) in any shop bigger than a local funeral parlor. Given the availability of Linux (and before that, low end Unix) even its smaller per-unit charge is at risk. I will abstain from repeating the scalability numbers we all know and love because I am lazy. You get the point. Windows is inexpensive at the start but quite the opposite later. FLEXIBILITY Windows is actually LESS flexible (for servers) when you consider that it cannot run (traditionally) without a mouse as well as keyboard. The very idea is counter to anything like lights out. But that's just one point. What is flexibility? Linux, traditional Unix, VM, and even MVS have so many more knobs to turn than Windows does. And Windows presents more penalty when you start turning knobs than do these other systems. I state this without specific evidence because having heard the horror stories more than once, I have filed the info away: one does not adjust Windows. If you disagree, and the moderator will indulge us, then I will start finding and posting documented evidence. Now to my two points: sexiness and vanity. SEXINESS Windows is familiar. That at a minimum is comfort. It is emotional. Salesmen LOVE when you get emotional. Do you yourself not know Windows enough to drive its menus and figure out some amount of configuration? But menu-driven config does not scale past one or two servers, and then we're back to cost. So perhaps I have stretched and implied that anything salsemen love is sexy. But I did not mean that. Windows really is (my opinion) nice looking. Windows is graphical ... in its very name. (And as I suggested in a prior paragraph, one cannot usually turn off the graphics, which gets us back into flexibility. But I digress.) Graphics are sexy. 3D is even sexier, but who can argue that visual offers more immediate gratification than verbal? Pictures are appealing. VANITY One definition of vanity is a self focus. Windows is an excellent candidate for per-user service. I prefer Linux in that role only to avoid corporate entanglement and closed source bondage, NOT because there is something wrong with the op sys. Windows supports an individual user quite nicely. But for servers ... not so well. I submit to you that many customers have decided on Windows because they only brought in their own experience, and that with the presentation end. Might as well use the vanity mirror in your bath room for the furnace at Odeilo. Another English definition of vanity is triviality or hollowness. (Am trying to avoid the blunt lack of value because I already said Windows DOES have some value.) Using Windows for server service in your data center is vanity. Unless driven by vendor requirements for software that you chose for other reasons than flexibility or scalability, Windows is simply NOT the right choice for that infrastructure. -- R; On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 07:57, Dave Wade g4...@dpwade.eclipse.co.uk wrote: -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Richard Troth Sent: 05 January 2010 01:04 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Moving on: The University of Maine (System) shuts down mainframe Actually, Jack nailed it. (And so did Solomon, for that matter.) In context, running the stuff on Windows is truly nothing new under the sun. But some shops will do that because someone thinks Windows is sexier than VM or MVS or Unix or ... whatever. Vanity!
Re: Moving On: Cross-posted to linux and vm lists
Good luck Phil, and a happy and healthy new year to all on the list. It’s nice to see that with the unemployment situation what it is to see some one land a new position. When you are settled, please let us know where you landed. --- On Tue, 12/29/09, Phil Tully tull...@optonline.net wrote: From: Phil Tully tull...@optonline.net Subject: Moving On: Cross-posted to linux and vm lists To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 8:12 PM To All, As of January 1, 2010, I will no longer work for IBM. The past 5 + years have been a rewarding experience for me, but I have found an opportunity that I could not ignore. The new situation will be better for me professionally, and personally. I will continue to work with VM and Linux on Z and will continue to be a member of both listservs. With regards to all the customers I have interacted with , Thank You. I hope you learned half as much as I did. Phil Tully -- 'in media stat virtus' Virtue's in the middle
Re: Bill Munson's Email @ Brown Brothers
Hi Bill, Thanks for inviting me to the last MVMUA meeting. I really enjoyed being there. Although I still don’t have anything, going to these meetings helps me keep up with what’s going on in the z/VM world. This is tough, as not actually working with z/VM, as time goes by your skills become less relevant and therefore less likely an employer will pick you up. Attached is my resume in MS/Word format. Should you hear of anything or know of anyone with whom you might have an in, please feel free to send that person my resume. It certainly would be appreciated. Boy did I get sand bagged by Sirius and TDA. Well that’s life. Thanks again. --- On Sat, 10/31/09, Bill Munson william.mun...@bbh.com wrote: From: Bill Munson william.mun...@bbh.com Subject: Re: Bill Munson's Email @ Brown Brothers To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 6:41 PM Howard, It is william.mun...@bbh.com Munson From: Howard Rifkind [vmes...@yahoo.com] Sent: 10/31/2009 03:36 PM MST To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Bill Munson's Email @ Brown Brothers Misplaced Bill's email address. Can some one send it over to me off line . Thanks. *** IMPORTANT NOTE* The opinions expressed in this message and/or any attachments are those of the author and not necessarily those of Brown Brothers Harriman Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates (BBH). There is no guarantee that this message is either private or confidential, and it may have been altered by unauthorized sources without your or our knowledge. Nothing in the message is capable or intended to create any legally binding obligations on either party and it is not intended to provide legal advice. BBH accepts no responsibility for loss or damage from its use, including damage from virus.
Bill Munson's Email @ Brown Brothers
Misplaced Bill's email address. Can some one send it over to me off line . Thanks.
Re: Fed-Up With IBM Support!
I too just use the phone and try my best to explain the issue to a person who only thinks the/she has a complete understanding of the English language but really doesn't have a clue about what you are talking about... Best you can do is get the PMR # and when some one calls you back and describes the issue as it was recorded just tell them that isn't what you called in about. I surrender! --- On Tue, 10/27/09, Michael Coffin michaelcof...@mccci.com wrote: From: Michael Coffin michaelcof...@mccci.com Subject: Fed-Up With IBM Support! To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 11:31 AM Message VENT You know what, I recall a day when IBMLINK ran on 3270 terminals and when you entered search criteria on a problem you'd ONLY get VALID responses for your OS and problem (not 3,000,000 keyword hits 99.99% of them having NOTHING to do with your OS or your problem!). I recall a day when you would call IBM Software Support at 1-800-237-5511 (burned into my memory from over 20 years of calling), immediately connect to KNOWLEDGABLE professionals who could quickly help you identify if your problem was known/existing or open a new problem report, and this was all done in clear, easily understood English! Now we have IBMLink 2000, ServiceLink, Passport/Advantage, ShopzSeries, etc. etc. etc. etc. Each of which seems to require its own userid/password combination, and none of which is simple or easy to use! I have spent the past TWO HOURS trying to open a software support ticket using IBM.com, and am now going to GIVE UP and use the phone the old fashioned way. I sign in to IBMLINK 2000 using my userid and password. I searched for any records associated with my existing problem (TCPIP abending, FWIW) - no recent hits. I tried to open a Service Request. That takes you to a screen where you have to enter your IBM ID and password, which is not your IBMLINK ID and password. I call the IBMLINK Help Desk at 1-800-543-3912 to figure out WHAT IBM ID it is asking for. They take my name and phone number and tell me someone will call you back. I guess it would be TOO efficient to let me talk to someone immediately! Someone from IBM (IBMLINK Help Desk) calls me back. We walk through the exact same process I went through above until I am asked for my IBM ID again. He looks it up and tells me what it is. I enter THAT id and password only to have the website come back and tell me I'm not authorized to do anything (even though I am the ONLY registered user on this account!). I ask him to fix the account. He tells me I need to call the Software Support Help Desk at 1-800-426-7378, options 2-2. I call the Software Support Help Desk using the options provided. We very quickly discover this is NOT the right number to call for problems with Passport/Advantage. It's the software defect support numbe (e.g. what formerly was on 800-237-5511). The IBM'er gives me that phone number. I call IBM Passport/Advantage Help Desk at 1-800-978-2246. I describe my problem to the IBMer. He tells me IBM Passport/Advantage does not provide Help over the phone and that I must go to www.ibm.com/software/support to get the problem with my Passport/Advantage account authorizations straightened out. I go to www.ibm.com/software/support - this is not a web page to request Passport/Advantage support! It's yet another search page! The only reference to Passport/Advantage on this page is under Buying and managing support, which is basically a page to convince you to buy Passport/Advantage!!! I give up! For crying out loud IBM, can't you have a SINGLE sign-on for a customer to be able to access ALL of the services/entitlements that they've paid for? Why do I need an IBMLINK id/pw, an IBM (presumably Passport/Advantage - although that's NOT what I'm prompted to enter!) id/pw, a ShopzSeries id/pw! And when all of these accounts get out of synch, how about ONE support phone number with ONE knowledgable professional who can RESOLVE the problem FULLY, instead of bouncing customers around from phone number to phone number, ultimately being directed to a web page that doesn't exist! Geez!!! Sorry folks, I just had to vent. !!! /VENT -Mike
Re: IODF Anyone?
Because z/OS just does it better. At Footstar we had VM and MVS running under VM with good results. --- On Fri, 10/9/09, Lee Stewart lstewart.dsgr...@attglobal.net wrote: From: Lee Stewart lstewart.dsgr...@attglobal.net Subject: Re: IODF Anyone? To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Friday, October 9, 2009, 7:32 PM Not a loaded question. IODF, not IOCP.. Our hardware IOCP is built and loaded by our z/OS brethern... z/OS always needs an IODF, but VM? Lee Scott Rohling wrote: Is this a loaded question? Some of my customers use a VM IODF to load the IO definitions into the hardware from zVM. VM/HCD can be used to do this.. Scott On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Lee Stewart lstewart.dsgr...@attglobal.net mailto:lstewart.dsgr...@attglobal.net wrote: Is anyone using a VM IODF? If so why? Thanks, Lee -- Lee Stewart, Senior SE Sirius Computer Solutions Phone: (303) 996-7122 Email: lee.stew...@siriuscom.com mailto:lee.stew...@siriuscom.com Web: www.siriuscom.com http://www.siriuscom.com -- Lee Stewart, Senior SE Sirius Computer Solutions Phone: (303) 996-7122 Email: lee.stew...@siriuscom.com Web: www.siriuscom.com
Re: The line (unemployment) forms at the rear.
Well, not really. I have both skills, like 20+ years of each, and it's really been tough to find something in the Metro NYC area. There openings on various other locations all over the U.S. --- On Wed, 9/23/09, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com wrote: From: Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com Subject: Re: The line (unemployment) forms at the rear. To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 4:06 PM That is almost like mixing gasoline and fire :-) Regards, Richard Schuh Z/VM System programming experience Z/OS Systems experience
Re: Backup RES Labeling Question
, HIGHEST CONDITION CODE WAS 0 13:08:51 11/09/06 This process must be done to each of the system volumes (520pag and 520spl) Now that you have relabeled the system volumes, which are sometimes called clipping the volumes, you can run the DIRECTXA command to update the directory: == directxa user z/VM USER DIRECTORY CREATION PROGRAM - VERSION 5 RELEASE 2.0 EOJ DIRECTORY UPDATED HCPDIR494I User directory occupies 39 disk pages Ready(5); T=0.01/0.01 14:30:37 A return code of 5 is expected, because the labels in the USER DIRECT file are different from the spool data in the currently running system. Finally, you are ready to issue a SHUTDOWN command. Shutting down your system and restarting it To test the changes you must shut your system down and then restart it. You cannot do a SHUTDOWN REIPL in this situation because you have to do a FORCE start as follows: == shutdown SYSTEM SHUTDOWN STARTED HCPSHU960I System shutdown may be delayed for up to 210 seconds You lose your 3270 session. Perform the following steps to restart the system: 1. Go back to the HMC to IPL your system. 2. Click the LOAD icon in the CPC Recovery menu. 3. Select the Clear radio button. All the other parameters must be correct from the previous IPL. Click OK. 4. Click Yes on the Load Task Confirmation panel. 5. Go back to the Integrated 3270 console. After a few minutes the Standalone Program Loader panel opens. Use the Tab key to traverse to the section IPL Parameters and enter the value cons=sysg. 6. Press the F10 key to continue the IPL of your z/VM system. This takes around three minutes. 7. At the start prompt, you have to specify a FORCE start, again because the spool volume label has changed. Enter the following: == force drain 8. Do not change the time of day clock. == no 9. When the IPL completes, DISCONNECT from the OPERATOR user ID and log in to MAINT. == disc Now your z/VM system volumes must be relabeled. Verify with the QUERY CPOWNED command, as Example 4-42 shows. Example 4-42 Verifying z/VM volumes with QUERY CPOWNED == q cpowned Slot Vol-ID Rdev Type Status 1 VM1RES A770 Own Online and attached 2 VM1SP1 A771 Own Online and attached 3 VM1PG1 A772 Own Online and attached 4 VVA773 A773 Own Online and attached 5 VVA774 A774 Own Online and attached 6 VPA775 A775 Own Online and attached 7 VPA776 A776 Own Online and attached 8 VPA777 A777 Own Online and attached 9 VPA778 A778 Own Online and attached 10 VPA779 A779 Own Online and attached 11 -- - Reserved ... In the event that you IPL a system with duplicate system volumes, it is possible that you may have destroyed your saved segments. You can identify this situation when you are unable to IPL CMS. In this case, you have to IPL 190. Important: Do this only if your saved segments have been destroyed. To rebuild saved segments, try the following commands: == vmfsetup zvm cms == sampnss cms == i 190 cl parm savesys cms == vmfbld ppf segbld esasegs segblist ( all -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 9:22 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Backup RES Labeling Question Thanks Scott, --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Wandschneider, Scott scott.wandschnei...@infocrossing.com wrote: From: Wandschneider, Scott scott.wandschnei...@infocrossing.com Subject: Re: Backup RES Labeling Question To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 1:11 PM Changing VM VOLSERs Logon as MAINT. Attach nnnRES volume to the base z/VM system. ATTACH rdev TO SYSTEM ç nnnRES Add the following full pack minidisk statements for xxxRES to MAINT on the base system and put the directory online. MDISK F123 3390 000 END nnnRES MW MDISK FCF1 3390 039 120 nnnRES MW READ WRITE MULTIPLE MDISK F2CC 3390 506 005 nnnRES MW READ WRITE MULTIPLE Logoff/Logon to MAINT. Access the new system’s minidisks. ACCESS FCF1 W ACCESS F2CC U Edit the “NEW” directory on the F2CC “U” minidisk, changing all the VOLID's to the new VOLID’s. IBM Default Production Description nnnRES mmxRES SYSRES nnnSPL mmxSP1 Spool Volume 1 nnnPAG mmxPG1 Page Volume 1 nnnW01 mmxW01 Work Volume 1 Where nnn is the base release, i.e. 530 Where mm is the base release, i.e. 53 and x is an identification letter, i.e. “A” ZVMESA5 = “A” Z800ZVM = “B” ODCZVM52 = “C” Edit the “NEW” SYSTEM CONFIG file on the FCF1 “W” minidisk, changing all the VOLID's to the new VOLID’s. Define '123' as 'FFF' and 'F123' as '123' to place the newly modified directory online for the second level VM system. Use QUERY V DASD to verify. DEFINE 123 AS FFF DEFINE F123 AS 123 DIRECTXA user direct u Re-Define
Backup RES Labeling Question
Hello all, I had been asked to make a backup copy of the SYSRES volume, volulme id 54GRES, and was provide with a DASD address of 6027 and a new volume id of 54GBRS. I did a CPFMTXA on 6027 with the volume id of 54GBRS and formatted the entire volume as PERM. I then ran DDR and did a COPY ALL and that worked with out any problems. Of course now the volume which was 54GBRS is now 54GRES. Now there are two volumes with the same volume id and the only way to identify which is which is by the DASD address. This seems to me to now present a problem. Should I now go and re label the back up volume to 54GBRS? What is the best way to handle this and how would we go ahead and test the backup SYSRES? Thanks.
Re: Backup RES Labeling Question
Just creating a copy of the sysres volume to use for testing. --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Wandschneider, Scott scott.wandschnei...@infocrossing.com wrote: From: Wandschneider, Scott scott.wandschnei...@infocrossing.com Subject: Re: Backup RES Labeling Question To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 12:29 PM Are you referring to “cloning” a system or just providing a backup of the RES volume? Thank you, Scott From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 11:13 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Backup RES Labeling Question Hello all, I had been asked to make a backup copy of the SYSRES volume, volulme id 54GRES, and was provide with a DASD address of 6027 and a new volume id of 54GBRS. I did a CPFMTXA on 6027 with the volume id of 54GBRS and formatted the entire volume as PERM. I then ran DDR and did a COPY ALL and that worked with out any problems. Of course now the volume which was 54GBRS is now 54GRES. Now there are two volumes with the same volume id and the only way to identify which is which is by the DASD address. This seems to me to now present a problem. Should I now go and re label the back up volume to 54GBRS? What is the best way to handle this and how would we go ahead and test the backup SYSRES? Thanks. Confidentiality Note: This e-mail, including any attachment to it, may contain material that is confidential, proprietary, privileged and/or Protected Health Information, within the meaning of the regulations under the Health Insurance Portability Accountability Act as amended. If it is not clear that you are the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, including any attachment to it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately return it to the sender and delete it from your system. Thank you.
Re: Backup RES Labeling Question
Scott, think you forgot to attach your procedure... And thanks all. --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Wandschneider, Scott scott.wandschnei...@infocrossing.com wrote: From: Wandschneider, Scott scott.wandschnei...@infocrossing.com Subject: Re: Backup RES Labeling Question To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 12:38 PM Here is the procedure I use to change VM VOLSERs after cloning the volumes, maybe you can adapt to your needs. Thank you, Scott From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 11:32 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Backup RES Labeling Question Just creating a copy of the sysres volume to use for testing. --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Wandschneider, Scott scott.wandschnei...@infocrossing.com wrote: From: Wandschneider, Scott scott.wandschnei...@infocrossing.com Subject: Re: Backup RES Labeling Question To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 12:29 PM Are you referring to “cloning” a system or just providing a backup of the RES volume? Thank you, Scott From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 11:13 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Backup RES Labeling Question Hello all, I had been asked to make a backup copy of the SYSRES volume, volulme id 54GRES, and was provide with a DASD address of 6027 and a new volume id of 54GBRS. I did a CPFMTXA on 6027 with the volume id of 54GBRS and formatted the entire volume as PERM. I then ran DDR and did a COPY ALL and that worked with out any problems. Of course now the volume which was 54GBRS is now 54GRES. Now there are two volumes with the same volume id and the only way to identify which is which is by the DASD address. This seems to me to now present a problem. Should I now go and re label the back up volume to 54GBRS? What is the best way to handle this and how would we go ahead and test the backup SYSRES? Thanks. Confidentiality Note: This e-mail, including any attachment to it, may contain material that is confidential, proprietary, privileged and/or Protected Health Information, within the meaning of the regulations under the Health Insurance Portability Accountability Act as amended. If it is not clear that you are the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, including any attachment to it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately return it to the sender and delete it from your system. Thank you.
Re: Backup RES Labeling Question
Scott, Just forward it to my email address. --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Wandschneider, Scott scott.wandschnei...@infocrossing.com wrote: From: Wandschneider, Scott scott.wandschnei...@infocrossing.com Subject: Re: Backup RES Labeling Question To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 12:38 PM Here is the procedure I use to change VM VOLSERs after cloning the volumes, maybe you can adapt to your needs. Thank you, Scott From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 11:32 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Backup RES Labeling Question Just creating a copy of the sysres volume to use for testing. --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Wandschneider, Scott scott.wandschnei...@infocrossing.com wrote: From: Wandschneider, Scott scott.wandschnei...@infocrossing.com Subject: Re: Backup RES Labeling Question To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 12:29 PM Are you referring to “cloning” a system or just providing a backup of the RES volume? Thank you, Scott From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 11:13 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Backup RES Labeling Question Hello all, I had been asked to make a backup copy of the SYSRES volume, volulme id 54GRES, and was provide with a DASD address of 6027 and a new volume id of 54GBRS. I did a CPFMTXA on 6027 with the volume id of 54GBRS and formatted the entire volume as PERM. I then ran DDR and did a COPY ALL and that worked with out any problems. Of course now the volume which was 54GBRS is now 54GRES. Now there are two volumes with the same volume id and the only way to identify which is which is by the DASD address. This seems to me to now present a problem. Should I now go and re label the back up volume to 54GBRS? What is the best way to handle this and how would we go ahead and test the backup SYSRES? Thanks. Confidentiality Note: This e-mail, including any attachment to it, may contain material that is confidential, proprietary, privileged and/or Protected Health Information, within the meaning of the regulations under the Health Insurance Portability Accountability Act as amended. If it is not clear that you are the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this transmittal in error, and any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail, including any attachment to it, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately return it to the sender and delete it from your system. Thank you.
Re: RELABEL SYSRES was: Re: Backup RES Labeling Question
Easy there big fella... --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Dave Jones d...@vsoft-software.com wrote: From: Dave Jones d...@vsoft-software.com Subject: Re: RELABEL SYSRES was: Re: Backup RES Labeling Question To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 1:04 PM EHowardit's at the bottom of Mike's note Howard Rifkind wrote: How and where can I (we) retrieve you write up? --- On *Fri, 9/4/09, Mike Walter /mike.wal...@hewitt.com/* wrote: From: Mike Walter mike.wal...@hewitt.com Subject: RELABEL SYSRES was: Re: Backup RES Labeling Question To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 12:55 PM Howard, You already have your answer: Use CPFMTXA to Label the output volume. But just yesterday I completed a draft document describing how to change a sysres (and page and SPOOL) volser in details sufficient for most newbies. The change would let that relabeled sysres IPL on 1st of 2nd level. This document was created partly because I had recently pointed out on the list that IBM had no written documentation on how to do that, then David Boyes said that he'd add it to his someday list, I received an off-list request for help with a problem that may have been caused by duplicate 540xxx volsers. And then I had a need to change a sysres volser, too - perfect timing to test the process. The stars aligned, the clouds parted, and a document came out. The pasted document (file attachments do not make it to this list) is in a format suitable to be saved to a CMS file (ours is called RELABEL SYSRES) on a CMS minidisk or filespace. That leads to a document which is not as pretty as one created with your choice of word processor products, but one which is always available on your VM system without any word processor software. This is V1R0, aimed at newbies, trying to give enough information to get the job done without so much information that it becomes difficult to keep up to date. Mike Walter Hewitt Associates The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. -- Dave Jones V/Soft www.vsoft-software.com Houston, TX 281.578.7544
Re: Backup RES Labeling Question
Thanks Scott, --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Wandschneider, Scott scott.wandschnei...@infocrossing.com wrote: From: Wandschneider, Scott scott.wandschnei...@infocrossing.com Subject: Re: Backup RES Labeling Question To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 1:11 PM Changing VM VOLSERs Logon as MAINT. Attach nnnRES volume to the base z/VM system. ATTACH rdev TO SYSTEM ç nnnRES Add the following full pack minidisk statements for xxxRES to MAINT on the base system and put the directory online. MDISK F123 3390 000 END nnnRES MW MDISK FCF1 3390 039 120 nnnRES MW READ WRITE MULTIPLE MDISK F2CC 3390 506 005 nnnRES MW READ WRITE MULTIPLE Logoff/Logon to MAINT. Access the new system’s minidisks. ACCESS FCF1 W ACCESS F2CC U Edit the “NEW” directory on the F2CC “U” minidisk, changing all the VOLID's to the new VOLID’s. IBM Default Production Description nnnRES mmxRES SYSRES nnnSPL mmxSP1 Spool Volume 1 nnnPAG mmxPG1 Page Volume 1 nnnW01 mmxW01 Work Volume 1 Where nnn is the base release, i.e. 530 Where mm is the base release, i.e. 53 and x is an identification letter, i.e. “A” ZVMESA5 = “A” Z800ZVM = “B” ODCZVM52 = “C” Edit the “NEW” SYSTEM CONFIG file on the FCF1 “W” minidisk, changing all the VOLID's to the new VOLID’s. Define '123' as 'FFF' and 'F123' as '123' to place the newly modified directory online for the second level VM system. Use QUERY V DASD to verify. DEFINE 123 AS FFF DEFINE F123 AS 123 DIRECTXA user direct u Re-Define the ‘123’ disk. Use QUERY V DASD to verify. DEFINE 123 AS F123 DEFINE FFF AS 123 Attach the remaining new system DASD addresses to MAINT. DETACH rdev FROM SYSTEM ç nnnRES ATTACH rdev TO MAINT ç nnnRES ATTACH rdev TO MAINT ç nnnSPL ATTACH rdev TO MAINT ç nnnPAG ATTACH rdev TO MAINT ç nnnW01 ATTACH rdev TO MAINT ç nnnW02 Change the VOLID's to what they were changed to in the new directory. Execute ICKDSF. REFORMAT UNIT(rdev) VERIFY(nnnRES) VOLID(nnxRES) REFORMAT UNIT(rdev) VERIFY(nnnSPL) VOLID(nnxSP1) REFORMAT UNIT(rdev) VERIFY(nnnPAG) VOLID(nnxPG1) REFORMAT UNIT(rdev) VERIFY(nnnW01) VOLID(nnxW01) REFORMAT UNIT(rdev) VERIFY(nnnW02) VOLID(nnxW02) Detach the volumes from MAINT. DETACH rdev FROM MAINT ç Was nnnRES DETACH rdev FROM MAINT ç Was nnnSPL DETACH rdev FROM MAINT ç Was nnnPAG DETACH rdev FROM MAINT ç Was nnnW01 DETACH rdev FROM MAINT ç Was nnnW02 Vary offline/online the new volumes. IPL the new system. Thank you, Scott From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 11:44 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Backup RES Labeling Question Scott, think you forgot to attach your procedure... And thanks all. --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Wandschneider, Scott scott.wandschnei...@infocrossing.com wrote: From: Wandschneider, Scott scott.wandschnei...@infocrossing.com Subject: Re: Backup RES Labeling Question To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 12:38 PM Here is the procedure I use to change VM VOLSERs after cloning the volumes, maybe you can adapt to your needs. Thank you, Scott From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 11:32 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Backup RES Labeling Question Just creating a copy of the sysres volume to use for testing. --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Wandschneider, Scott scott.wandschnei...@infocrossing.com wrote: From: Wandschneider, Scott scott.wandschnei...@infocrossing.com Subject: Re: Backup RES Labeling Question To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 12:29 PM Are you referring to “cloning” a system or just providing a backup of the RES volume? Thank you, Scott From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 11:13 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Backup RES Labeling Question Hello all, I had been asked to make a backup copy of the SYSRES volume, volulme id 54GRES, and was provide with a DASD address of 6027 and a new volume id of 54GBRS. I did a CPFMTXA on 6027 with the volume id of 54GBRS and formatted the entire volume as PERM
NOLOG Option in the Directory
If the nolog option is included in a user directory entry can autolog1 log that user id on? Can that user id be xautologged? Thanks
System Config file Slots
I was just wondering how many slots can be added in the system config file? Thanks.
Re: System Config file Slots
Mike, Truly, this is a wonderful thing. Found the answer...NOW send my that T-Shirt. Thanks --- On Mon, 8/31/09, Mike Walter mike.wal...@hewitt.com wrote: From: Mike Walter mike.wal...@hewitt.com Subject: Re: System Config file Slots To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 12:00 PM There comes a time in each sysprog's career that opening a manual, before asking a question, is a better idea. I've been there, done that, have the t-shirt - and it doesn't fit me any more, either. Most of us on the list have been through this rite of passage. This might be your time. See: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/hcsg0b31.pdf The answer is right in there, under System Configuration File, Operands, Slot. Tutorially, Mike Walter Hewitt Associates Howard Rifkind vmes...@yahoo.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 08/31/2009 10:22 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject System Config file Slots I was just wondering how many slots can be added in the system config file? Thanks. The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies and to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by e-mail.
Re: System Config file Slots
Thanks, Yep, in my old age I've become come what portly. --- On Mon, 8/31/09, Mike Walter mike.wal...@hewitt.com wrote: From: Mike Walter mike.wal...@hewitt.com Subject: Re: System Config file Slots To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 12:57 PM Sorry... the T-shirt probably wouldn't fit you, either. It seems to have mysteriously shrunk over the years. What would cause that? :-) You may wish to add some of the z/VM-related web browser Favorites included in my SHARE sessions: - z/VM Installation - From Cardboard Box to IPL available at http://linuxvm.org/Present/SHARE111/S9119mw.pdf - z/VM Installation - It's Installed, NOW What? (Or: What we learned on the job) available at http://linuxvm.org/Present/SHARE111/S9120mw.pdf Sadly, the Hewitt Associates travel/education/budget was cut to the bone this fiscal year, so I was unable to attend SHARE to deliver these presentations. Maybe next year? The favorites mentioned above include (wouldn't a generic VM-community updated z/VM-related favorites page be a good idea?): ---snip--- • Obviously: IBMLink (leverage your support dollars): • https://www-304.ibm.com/usrsrvc/account/userservices/jsp/login.jsp?persistPage=true • IBM Publications (review them yourself back at the shop): • http://www.vm.ibm.com/library/ (The VM library), which points to: • http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/bookmgr_OS390/libraryserver/zvmv5r3/ (The z/VM Library Center) • http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/Shelves/hcsh2a90 (The z/VM Bookshelf) • http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/zvm.html (The z/VM Collection” bookshelf – Discs) • http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/zvmpdf/ (The z/VM PDF Library) • Program Directories, data areas, control blocks, monitor records, tri-fold Installation Summaries, redbooks, whitepapers, reports, spec sheets, brochures, reference guides, and lots more • http://www.elink.ibmlink.ibm.com/publications/servlet/pbi.wss?CTY=US (the IBM Publications Center) • http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/lookat/ (“LookAt” messages) • Informal but VERY prompt, helpful, and flameless discussion lists: • Send email text to: lists...@listserv.uark.edu • SUBSCRIBE IBMVM firstname lastname • Send email text to: lists...@vm.marist.edu • SUBSCRIBE CMS-PIPELINES firstname lastname • Send email text to: lists...@vm.marist.edu • SUBSCRIBE LINUX-390 firstname lastname ---snip--- Those links have not been tested recently, but they were good a year ago before SHARE in San Jose. Mike Walter Hewitt Associates The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, not my employer's. Howard Rifkind vmes...@yahoo.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 08/31/2009 11:26 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: System Config file Slots Mike, Truly, this is a wonderful thing. Found the answer...NOW send my that T-Shirt. Thanks --- On Mon, 8/31/09, Mike Walter mike.wal...@hewitt.com wrote: From: Mike Walter mike.wal...@hewitt.com Subject: Re: System Config file Slots To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 12:00 PM There comes a time in each sysprog's career that opening a manual, before asking a question, is a better idea. I've been there, done that, have the t-shirt - and it doesn't fit me any more, either. Most of us on the list have been through this rite of passage. This might be your time. See: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/hcsg0b31.pdf The answer is right in there, under System Configuration File, Operands, Slot. Tutorially, Mike Walter Hewitt Associates Howard Rifkind vmes...@yahoo.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 08/31/2009 10:22 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject System Config file Slots I was just wondering how many slots can be added in the system config file? Thanks. The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies and to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed
Screen roll time.
Can any one tell me what the command/entry would be to change the scroll time when there is a 'more...' up. I had thought you could change this with some sort of set command in CMS and in the directory under the OPTIONS entry but is can't find the correct manual which would describe how this can be done. Thanks. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Screen roll time.
Thanks all. Big help. --- On Fri, 8/28/09, Mike Walter mike.wal...@hewitt.com wrote: From: Mike Walter mike.wal...@hewitt.com Subject: Re: Screen roll time. To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 1:55 PM It's the CP command: TERMinal As in: CP TERMinal MORE 0 0 Plus there's CP TERMinal HOLD ON or OFF. It is not controlled by a directory OPTION, but you can include a CP directory COMMAND statement, or place it in the user's PROFILE EXEC. Mike Walter Hewitt Associates (Sent from the wee keyboard on a Blackberry.) From: Howard Rifkind [vmes...@yahoo.com] Sent: 08/28/2009 10:50 AM MST To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Screen roll time. Can any one tell me what the command/entry would be to change the scroll time when there is a 'more...' up. I had thought you could change this with some sort of set command in CMS and in the directory under the OPTIONS entry but is can't find the correct manual which would describe how this can be done. Thanks. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies and to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by e-mail.
Adding a Page Volume to a Running z/VM System.
At the risk of sounding stupid, what are the commands to mount another page volume to a running z/VM system. Do I need to first add these volumes to the System Config fie? Thanks
Re: Adding a Page Volume to a Running z/VM System.
Thanks all, Just forgot to do the q alloc page to check. Sysconfig will have to be done just before the IPL.. thanks again. --- On Wed, 8/26/09, Davis, Larry larry.davis.consult...@nielsen.com wrote: From: Davis, Larry larry.davis.consult...@nielsen.com Subject: Re: Adding a Page Volume to a Running z/VM System. To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 1:09 PM Please add them to the SYSTEM config first it is a check and balances procedure to assure you do not forget that part. Larry Davis From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Robert J McCarthy Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 12:50 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Adding a Page Volume to a Running z/VM System. Howard, You don't need to add them to the System Config 1st. The steps I use are as follows : 1. DET FROM SYSTEM ( address of new page volume) 2. Q CPOWNED (To get next available slot number) 3. DEFINE CPOWNED SLOT nnn volser (nnn = slot number , volser = volser of new page volume) 4. ATT SYSTEM volser 5. Q ALLOC PAGE (New page volume should now show up) Don't forget to add the new volume to the System Config, or you will have unpleasant reults at the next IPL of vm Bob From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 12:20 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Adding a Page Volume to a Running z/VM System. At the risk of sounding stupid, what are the commands to mount another page volume to a running z/VM system. Do I need to first add these volumes to the System Config fie? Thanks
Re: z/VM FTP Question
Thanks Alan... --- On Sat, 8/22/09, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com wrote: From: Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com Subject: Re: z/VM FTP Question To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 8:47 AM On Friday, 08/21/2009 at 01:12 EDT, Howard Rifkind vmes...@yahoo.com wrote: I would like to use the FTP server in z/VM to FTP a large file from one z/VM to another z/VM. I haven't used the FTP program in z/VM so I need some help with this. I assue I have to start the FTPSERVE machine in both the source and target machines. Then do I'm just use normal FPT commands to transfer the file from the source to the target? I want the file to got to 'G' drive in the source machine...'A' disk would also be O.K. Start the FTP server on the machine that has the file. Be sure you authorize it appropriately. Now is a good time to review the FTP chapter in the TCP/IP Planning book. Also, on this machine find out what minidisk holds the file. E.g. HOWARD 191. Then on the machine you want the file to be copied to, access the disk as some filemode and access TCPMAINT 592. FTP otherhost.company.com and login cd howard.191 lcd filemode ebcdic get my.file quit Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott
z/VM FTP Question
I would like to use the FTP server in z/VM to FTP a large file from one z/VM to another z/VM. I haven't used the FTP program in z/VM so I need some help with this. I assue I have to start the FTPSERVE machine in both the source and target machines. Then do I'm just use normal FPT commands to transfer the file from the source to the target? I want the file to got to 'G' drive in the source machine...'A' disk would also be O.K. Thanks.
Re: z/VM FTP Question
Thanks Frank, What do you mean by by CCUU or user:dirid. Is CCUU the control unit number or device address and as far as user:dirid ??? Thanks --- On Fri, 8/21/09, Frank M. Ramaekers framaek...@ailife.com wrote: From: Frank M. Ramaekers framaek...@ailife.com Subject: Re: z/VM FTP Question To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Friday, August 21, 2009, 1:16 PM Yes, you should start FTPSERVE (if not automatically initialized by TCPIP). Files are NOT transferred by drive letter, but by CCUU or user:dirid. Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE RHCE American Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761-6649 1200 Wooded Acres Dr . Fax: (254)741-5777 Waco, Texas 76701 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 12:00 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: z/VM FTP Question I would like to use the FTP server in z/VM to FTP a large file from one z/VM to another z/VM. I haven't used the FTP program in z/VM so I need some help with this. I assue I have to start the FTPSERVE machine in both the source and target machines. Then do I'm just use normal FPT commands to transfer the file from the source to the target? I want the file to got to 'G' drive in the source machine...'A' disk would also be O.K. Thanks. _ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at privacy...@ailife.com.
z/VM Systen Config Location
Having a senior moment...what disk is the system config file kept on??? Thanks. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: z/VM Systen Config Location
Thanks all... --- On Thu, 8/20/09, Robert J McCarthy bob.mccar...@custserv.com wrote: From: Robert J McCarthy bob.mccar...@custserv.com Subject: Re: z/VM Systen Config Location To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 3:54 PM Howard, CF1 Bob From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 3:52 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: z/VM Systen Config Location Having a senior moment...what disk is the system config file kept on??? Thanks. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: z/VM Systen Config Location
Another question. I linked to the cf1 disk and it came up R/O. I have to change something in the System Config file... How can I get this R/W. T.Y. --- On Thu, 8/20/09, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com wrote: From: Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com Subject: Re: z/VM Systen Config Location To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 4:14 PM Q CPDISKS should tell you, even if it isn't CF1 :-). I prefer to keep a sysres disk, including PARM disks, that is never a part of the distribution system. As AA (alter-ego Chuckie) has said, the SYSTEM CONFIG is there for you to use in customizing your system. The big advantage is that I do not have to deal with the TechDocs people or change the operating procedures when going from one release to another. The Load Address stays the same. The same applies to the directory extent - which would be more of a hassle to move because of the ESM. Regards, Richard Schuh From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 12:57 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: z/VM Systen Config Location Thanks all... --- On Thu, 8/20/09, Robert J McCarthy bob.mccar...@custserv.com wrote: From: Robert J McCarthy bob.mccar...@custserv.com Subject: Re: z/VM Systen Config Location To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 3:54 PM Howard, CF1 Bob From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 3:52 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: z/VM Systen Config Location Having a senior moment...what disk is the system config file kept on??? Thanks. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Finding Last IPL Time and Date
Hello all, Can anyone tell me if there is a CP command or any command that will tell me the time and date of an IPL for and a guest in an LPAR. Running z/VM 5.4. Thanks __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Finding Last IPL Time and Date
Thanks all for the quick reply... --- On Wed, 8/19/09, Creighton, Chapman chapman_creigh...@bmc.com wrote: From: Creighton, Chapman chapman_creigh...@bmc.com Subject: Re: Finding Last IPL Time and Date To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 5:08 PM I you have the downloaded the TRACK package – issue: TRACK userid This will give you date and time of logon (along with lots more information). Chap Creighton BMC Software From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@ LISTSERV .UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 3:49 PM To: IBMVM@ LISTSERV .UARK.EDU Subject: Finding Last IPL Time and Date Hello all, Can anyone tell me if there is a CP command or any command that will tell me the time and date of an IPL for and a guest in an LPAR. Running z/VM 5.4. Thanks __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Extension of MAINT 190 (S-DISK)
David, Can you explain some more regarding the this process and how to set it up. We recommend using a separate minidisk for each product and using VMLINK with a shared NAMES file to access them as needed. Lets you do indirection and gets you a way to easily catalog who is using which product and how often it's used. At this point, the small real storage savings is unlikely to outweigh the amount of time it takes to sort out what files you need when you do an upgrade. --- On Mon, 5/19/08, David Boyes dbo...@sinenomine.net wrote: From: David Boyes dbo...@sinenomine.net Subject: Re: Extension of MAINT 190 (S-DISK) To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Monday, May 19, 2008, 10:47 AM Thank you for this hint. Well I am also much more in favour to do the installation on a separate disks, however in my case IBM install instructions of the SDO (Semi-VMSES/E Licenced Products) tell to install it on MAINT 19E. Save yourself a lot of pain. Don't. Mixing stuff up on the 19E is just a recipe for a lot of heartache when you have to upgrade. We recommend using a separate minidisk for each product and using VMLINK with a shared NAMES file to access them as needed. Lets you do indirection and gets you a way to easily catalog who is using which product and how often it's used. At this point, the small real storage savings is unlikely to outweigh the amount of time it takes to sort out what files you need when you do an upgrade. Therefore I do it in the recommended way but only for IBM products ;-) If there's a feedback form, submit it with the comment that this is a REALLY bad idea.
Re: How to tell how many linux running on z/VM?
Hi Sunny, Are you Linux guests autologed? If so then just check out the profile exec (or associated exec) for the Linux names there...should be unidentifiable by their IPL device numbers. --- On Wed, 8/12/09, sunny...@wcb.ab.ca sunny...@wcb.ab.ca wrote: From: sunny...@wcb.ab.ca sunny...@wcb.ab.ca Subject: How to tell how many linux running on z/VM? To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 5:49 PM I was asked to find out how many linux guests are running on our z/VM? the cp commands:Q N is not very suitable for this question. What is the better way? This message is intended only for the addressee. It may contain privileged or confidential information. Any unauthorized disclosure is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately so that we may correct our internal records. Please then delete the original email. Thank you. (Sent by Webgate1)
Hercules; more information please.
Greetings all, I’ve just read through the posts on Hercules. I’ve heard about it but don’t know much about this software. Does it run on a PC in Windows, Linux…what? Is Hercules a shell for z/VM and/or z/OS and if so where does one get legal copies of both? Being that I’m still on the beach I’d like to know where I can find out more about Hercules and install it on my home PC. Being out since the end of March … thanks to lay offs at the bank I worked for isn’t much fun and a mind is terrible thing to loose. If I had something at home to fool around with, that would be great and perhaps keep some of my skill warm. Thanks
Updating z/VM
Hello all, Can some one tell me where the best place to look on the procedures for updating z/VM, lets say using an RSU tape? Its been a while since I did one and I need to brush up. BTW, Any one know where and when IBM will be offering installation and other classes on the new z/VM? Thanks
Re: Updating z/VM
Thanks all --- On Mon, 7/13/09, Thompson, Ken ken.thomp...@eds.com wrote: From: Thompson, Ken ken.thomp...@eds.com Subject: Re: Updating z/VM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 3:54 PM The z/VM Service Guide will contain the information regarding updating z/VM with maintenance. Ken Thompson EDS National VM/VSE Capability ken.thomp...@eds.com (901)-465-6556 From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 2:41 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Updating z/VM Hello all, Can some one tell me where the best place to look on the procedures for updating z/VM, lets say using an RSU tape? Its been a while since I did one and I need to brush up. BTW, Any one know where and when IBM will be offering installation and other classes on the new z/VM? Thanks
EXECIO COMMAND HELP
Hello all, I need some help with the execio command. From my console when I do a 'CP Q RDR * ALL' I get back 107 lines listed on the console, these are files for my user id and it looks correct. When I issue the command 'CP Q RDR ALL' I get all the files from everyone listed on my console and this to is correct. Listed are 775 files. The problem is when I have the following in my rexx exec I only get back 107 files listed. 'EXECIO * CP (STRING QUERY RDR ALL' MAXLINES = QUEUED() SAY MAXLINES 107 Should be something line 775 There are no previous buffers allocated so I have no idea what's going here. I've tried just about everything but can't seem to retrieve the total number of line in the reader queue. Any help/ideas will be greatly appreciated. Thanks
Re: EXECIO COMMAND HELP
Thanks all for your quick response... --- On Thu, 6/4/09, Bruce Hayden bjhay...@gmail.com wrote: From: Bruce Hayden bjhay...@gmail.com Subject: Re: EXECIO COMMAND HELP To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 4:21 PM The default buffer size on a diag 8 call (which is what EXECIO does for you) is 8K. So, your execio is only getting 8K of the output. You can specify a longer buffer by using the BUFFER option of EXECIO. You can either just specify a big buffer that will always hold the output for the number of spool files you typically have on your system, or you can query the number using CP Q FILES and calculate the buffer size you need. Or, switch to using CMS pipelines. It automatically increases the diag 8 buffer size for a CP query command to fit all the command output. The equivalent pipeline to put the lines in the stack would be 'PIPE cp QUERY RDR ALL | stack' - but of course you can do some or all of your processing using other pipeline stages. On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Howard Rifkind vmes...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello all, I need some help with the execio command. From my console when I do a 'CP Q RDR * ALL' I get back 107 lines listed on the console, these are files for my user id and it looks correct. When I issue the command 'CP Q RDR ALL' I get all the files from everyone listed on my console and this to is correct. Listed are 775 files. The problem is when I have the following in my rexx exec I only get back 107 files listed. 'EXECIO * CP (STRING QUERY RDR ALL' MAXLINES = QUEUED() SAY MAXLINES 107 Should be something line 775 There are no previous buffers allocated so I have no idea what's going here. I've tried just about everything but can't seem to retrieve the total number of line in the reader queue. Any help/ideas will be greatly appreciated. Thanks -- Bruce Hayden Linux on System z Advanced Technical Support IBM, Endicott, NY
Re: EXECIO COMMAND HELP
Thanks Neal, this is just about what I did only 'queue rdr all' --- On Thu, 6/4/09, Neal Scheffler n...@chrysler.com wrote: From: Neal Scheffler n...@chrysler.com Subject: Re: EXECIO COMMAND HELP To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 4:36 PM You might try something like this: 'EXECIO * CP (BUFFER 65536 STRING QUERY RDR SYSTEM ALL' Neal Scheffler Howard Rifkind wrote: Hello all, I need some help with the execio command. From my console when I do a 'CP Q RDR * ALL' I get back 107 lines listed on the console, these are files for my user id and it looks correct. When I issue the command 'CP Q RDR ALL' I get all the files from everyone listed on my console and this to is correct. Listed are 775 files. The problem is when I have the following in my rexx exec I only get back 107 files listed. 'EXECIO * CP (STRING QUERY RDR ALL' MAXLINES = QUEUED() SAY MAXLINES 107 Should be something line 775 There are no previous buffers allocated so I have no idea what's going here. I've tried just about everything but can't seem to retrieve the total number of line in the reader queue. Any help/ideas will be greatly appreciated. Thanks
Re: REXX Date Function Help...Please
Thanks all,
I'm sure from one of these suggestions I'll be able to find a solution to the
problem I'm working on.
--- On Wed, 5/13/09, Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: REXX Date Function Help...Please
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2009, 12:14 PM
Yes - I agree - the point is to phase out Julian. I think phasing out 'USA'
(or European) is harder because it's used as a 'shorthand' date so many places.
I suggested to Howard offline that using DATE('B') (Base) is probably the best
way to deal with date manipulation (the common reason for using Julian) and
doesn't have the difficulties of spanning years that Julian does when doing
calculations.
For example:
today = date('B')
lastweek = today - 7
Say DATE('S', lastweek, 'B')
Would spit out the the sorted date (mmdd) for one week ago. This works
whether I issue it on Jan 2 or Jun 2.
Scott
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Ethan Lanz llel...@gmail.com wrote:
so it looks like the point is phasing out Julian dates.
REXX Date Function Help...Please
I have the DATE function working in order to get the current date into Julian
date format but I'm have difficulty going the other way...Julian date to
standard date such as MM/DD/YY.
I've tried tries a number of ways to format the DATE function to do this
without any success.
I surrender.
File_Juldate = DATE('J',FILE_DATE) Doesn't work.
Any help with this will be appreciated.
Thanks
z/VM Directory Location
Another Senior moment... in z/VM 5.3 which of Maint's minidisks is the directory on... I don't currently have a z/VM system to work on and forgot this... Thanks
Re: RACF / Dirmaint
Recently had a great 3 day class with VM Resources in NYC. Highly recommended. Can't understand why they spent $2500.00 on a class and the next Friday they laid me off. Unless they wanted to keep the layoffs under the covers which is more then likely. --- On Fri, 4/17/09, Charles Grady charles.gr...@dol.state.ga.us wrote: From: Charles Grady charles.gr...@dol.state.ga.us Subject: RACF / Dirmaint To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Friday, April 17, 2009, 7:49 AM Does anyone know of training for RACF / Dirmaint? There are NO CLASSES scheduled on IBM education website. I've seen post from last year where the classes were canceled. HELP please. Thanks, Charles Grady GDOL 404-232-7539 ** GDOL CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This transmission may contain confidential information protected by state or federal law. The information is intended only for use consistent with the state business discussed in this transmission.If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action based on the contents is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please delete this email and notify the sender immediately.Your cooperation is appreciated. **
Re: USER MDISK and DIRMAINT Question
I know I'm late on this post but one week before the bank let me go I had a z/VM DirMaint 3 day class with VMResources. Very good class. Anyway the problem I had while installing this product on second level z/VM was the Extent Control file. Get this one right and I think you will have 75% of the battle over. Can you do this install first on a second level z/VM machine, if so that's a great way to get thing doped out before you commit the product to first level. Good luck with the RACF for z/VM word of advise from the instructor at VMResources is don't do a shareing thing with z/OS...it's a real pain. KISS works in this case. --- On Thu, 4/9/09, Le Grande Valerie valerie.legra...@sentry.com wrote: From: Le Grande Valerie valerie.legra...@sentry.com Subject: USER MDISK and DIRMAINT Question To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Thursday, April 9, 2009, 1:33 PM Hello all, I am one of the new bears trying to figure out how to use DIRMAINT to start defining some new users. As I have been searching the list archives for answers, I will start by saying I can identify with a comment made on this list back in February: ...go to a new z/VM shop that has z/VM just to support virtualized Linux and watch as they attempt to get DIRMAINT and RACF installed and configured, and then begin to use it. It isn't pretty. Haven't started on the RACF yet --- I can hardly wait! (you may all want to come and see the show!) Some pressing questions I have: I finally found the DIRMAP utility to map the minidisks. What I am seeing on my 5.4 system is that the use of the word END for end-of-volume and the resulting LENGTH seemed to get translated in my conversion from USER DIRECT to be 3390-01 numbers, not 3390-09 as I am using, at least on the report it puts out. (This is true for th $PAGE$ entry for the PAGE volume, the $SPOOL$ entry, and MAINT 0122 entry for the SPOOL volume, and the MAINT and SYSDUMP1 0123 address entries for the RES volume). Is this just a glitch with the report or do I need to get rid of END entries and/or code something else somewhere that I am missing? I would like to create some Real USERIDs in the style required by Security. I am looking for a best practice here. It would seem to me best to place non-system user-defined stuff (to use a technical term) OFF of the RES volume so it easily carries from one release to the next. I have noticed that the redbooks, etc. that go through creating Linux guests seem to put their 191 mini-disk on the volume defined for Linux use. It would seem to me that possibily these and definitely any admin CMS disks should go on what we would call on the z/OS side a User volume (maybe equal to a Work volume in z/VM terms?) What is best practice/most used for CMS disks? Also, can someone point me to (or give) a quick sample of what is needed if I use LOGONBY both in the logon TO and the BY definitions? Thanks to all of you. Also, I have no idea about carrying forward the DIRMAINT files at this point (let alone where they really are). How are these usually handled when changing releases?
Wacked again - One time post.
Wacked again. This time in less the a year, boy that makes two lost jobs in less then 18 months. What’s going on? Laid off in a 20% cut back. Anyone on the list who has any knowledge of any z/VM or z/OS openings in the NYC Metro area please be kind enough to advise off line. Also, know any really reliable head hunters? Seem there are 5 jobs around and 25 head hunters trying go get my resume in the door. Any help is appreciated. Thanks
Re: User-Recommended z/VM Training
I agree will all the comments on the list. I also attended a 3 day IBM class in Poughkeepsie, NY. It was free and from what I understand is isn't given any longer. It was excellent. However, if you haven't been involved in z/VM (Linux) for a while a formal class would be the way to go. I just finished a three day Dirmaint class at VM Resources in NYC. David is an outstanding teacher and has total grasp of z/VM and its associated software. Highly recommended. I can't wait till he offers a z/VM Linux class. Good luck. BTW, feel free to contact me off list if you feel like you would like more details. Bill Munson william.mun...@bbh.com 3/26/2009 11:16 AM VM Resourceshttp://www.vm-resources.com/ David has given courses here and at other locations in Jersey City as well as all over the US and Canada Bill Munson Sr. z/VM Systems Programmer Brown Brothers Harriman CO. 525 Washington Blvd. Jersey City, NJ 07310 201-418-7588 President MVMUA http://www2.marist.edu/~mvmua/ Kline, Martin martin.kl...@yrcw.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 03/26/2009 10:05 AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject User-Recommended z/VM Training Can any VM systems programmers recommend a good training course for seasoned mainframe sysprogs who are expanding into z/VM? The course I am looking for should teach how to properly install, maintain, debug, tune, expand, plan, etc. including network, security, operations, etc. for a serious systems programmer. If you're a vendor/trainer, please do not respond with your sales pitch. I want recommendations from actual users only. And, if you can only recommend NOT going to someone's particular course, speak up please. I worked with VM many years ago, so am aware of some of the concepts, but don't recall many of the details. Now, we're wanting to evaluate zVM for our Linux systems. On two occasions so far people have been signed up for IBM education on VM, only to have the classes cancelled at the last minut e due to an insufficient number of students. So, although IBM offers what sounds like a good class, they aren't delivering it. I could rant on abou t that for a while, but what's the value? *** IMPORTANT NOTE * The opinions expressed in this message and/or any attachments are those of the author and not necessarily those of Brown Brothers Harriman Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates BBH. There is no guarantee that this message is either private or confidential, and it may have been altered by unauthorized sources without your or our knowledge. Nothing in the message is capable or intended to create any legally binding obligations on either party and it is not intended to provide legal advice. BBH accepts no responsibility for loss or damage from its use, including damage from virus. *** _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash.
EXECIO QUESTION
Can anyone one on the list help me out with this execio statement which isn't working. 'EXECIO * (STEM RESPONSE. STRING 'LISTFILE' CMS EXEC A (D' Seems I've got some quote mark or paren in the wrong place. Thanks. _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash.
EXECIO PROBLEM
In an exec I'm running I issue the EXECIO command as shown below...in exactly that format. It works just fine and returns the information I'm looking for in the work file. It's before the following. SELECT; When task_to_do=BACKUP then call backup_mdisk_files; When task_to_do=SDF then call backup_sdf_files; When task_to_do=OPERLOG then EXEC MAKLOG; When task_to_do=DAILYACT then EXEC DSKACNT; When task_to_do=EREPRECS then EXEC EREPX3; When task_to_do=PERFSVM then EXEC PERFSV; The last 'when' executes the PERFSV exec and in that exec I issue the EXECIO command again as indicated below and get an RC(2). The work file never gets deleted anywhere between the two exec and is on the 'A' disk. Any thought about why an error is coming up would be appreciated. Thanks. 11 *-* 'EXECIO 1 DISKR WORK FILE A (VAR WINT' EXECIO 1 DISKR WORK FILE A (VAR WINT +++ RC(2) +++ 12 *-* PARSE VAR WINT TASK_TO_DO ADSTUFF . WINT . _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash.
Re: EXECIO PROBLEM
Peter, Thanks you hit it right on the head. peter.w...@ttc.ca 3/5/2009 4:50 PM For your first EXECIO execution, try adding FINIS as an option as in: 'EXECIO 1 DISKR WORK FILE A (FINIS VAR WINT’ -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: March 5, 2009 16:46 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: EXECIO PROBLEM In an exec I'm running I issue the EXECIO command as shown below...in exactly that format. It works just fine and returns the information I'm looking for in the work file. It's before the following. SELECT; When task_to_do=BACKUP then call backup_mdisk_files; When task_to_do=SDF then call backup_sdf_files; When task_to_do=OPERLOG then EXEC MAKLOG; When task_to_do=DAILYACT then EXEC DSKACNT; When task_to_do=EREPRECS then EXEC EREPX3; When task_to_do=PERFSVM then EXEC PERFSV; The last 'when' executes the PERFSV exec and in that exec I issue the EXECIO command again as indicated below and get an RC(2). The work file never gets deleted anywhere between the two exec and is on the 'A' disk. Any thought about why an error is coming up would be appreciated. Thanks. 11 *-* 'EXECIO 1 DISKR WORK FILE A (VAR WINT' EXECIO 1 DISKR WORK FILE A (VAR WINT +++ RC(2) +++ 12 *-* PARSE VAR WINT TASK_TO_DO ADSTUFF . WINT . _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review retransmission dissemination or other use of or taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient or delegate is strictly prohibited. If you received this in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. The integrity and security of this message cannot be guaranteed on the Internet. The sender accepts no liability for the content of this e-mail or for the consequences of any actions taken on the basis of information provided. The recipient should check this e-mail and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The sender accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. This disclaimer is property of the TTC and must not be altered or circumvented in any manner. _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash.
Set PFxx Question.
Did this a few times in the past but can't remember how to do this again. I want to SET PFxx lets say PF11 as follows: SET PF11 Q DASD DETAILS Then when I hit the PF11 key I just want to fill in the address. I've tried the after and before versions and the Q DASD DETAILS shows up and it indicates an error. Never gives me the change to key in anything, I just want the command to sit on the screen and wait. So, how can I just hit PF11 have it show Q DASD DETAILS and stay on the screen so I can key in the address I want? Thanks. The when I _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash.
Re: Set PFxx Question.
Thanks all Delay did it for me. August Carideo august.cari...@avon.com 2/25/2009 2:26 PM Try this set pf11 delay q dasd details Wakser, David david.wak...@inf ocrossing.com To Sent by: The IBM IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU z/VM Operating cc System ib...@listserv.u Subject ARK.EDU Re: Set PFxx Question. 02/25/2009 02:22 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System ib...@listserv.u ARK.EDU Howard: For example, I use the following to set PF13 to VSECMD. I type in the command that I want to send, and press PF13. The SUBSTITU * I believe are the things you are missing. CP SET PF13 SUBSTITU IMMED VSECMD UNIPROD * David Wakser From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 2:16 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Set PFxx Question. Did this a few times in the past but can't remember how to do this again. I want to SET PFxx lets say PF11 as follows: SET PF11 Q DASD DETAILS Then when I hit the PF11 key I just want to fill in the address. I've tried the after and before versions and the Q DASD DETAILS shows up and it indicates an error. Never gives me the change to key in anything, I just want the command to sit on the screen and wait. So, how can I just hit PF11 have it show Q DASD DETAILS and stay on the screen so I can key in the address I want? Thanks. The when I _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash.
Re: Sad News
Difficult. But on the other hand he was sleeping. Don't we all hope to go that way? I do! Fran Hensler f...@zvm.sru.edu 1/28/2009 1:16 PM Geeze - I got an email from Don just 2 weeks ago saying that he might apply for a job opening here at SRU. You just never know what's in your future. /Fran Hensler at Slippery Rock University of Pennsylvania USA for 45 years mailto:f...@zvm.sru.edu http://zvm.sru.edu/~fjh +1.724.738.2153 Yes, Virginia, there is a Slippery Rock -- On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:22:42 -0500 Shiminsky, Gary said: Hi, Don Hooker, former contractor to the State of New Hampshire, passed away in his sleep at home on Jan 23rd. He will be missed. Gary Gary L. Shiminsky _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash.
Re: Another day, another job (or, The Song of the Gypsy Programmers)
Jeff, Although not 100% sure, I would bet that over the past 10 years or so you more then likely answered some of my posts and pulled my rear... out of the fire. I got into VM/370 on a 370/158 back around 1975 and there wasn't anything like this list as we now know it. Your contributions of all sorts sure have make this list a better place to be. Keep tuned in...listers don't just disappear, the just take one step back. All the best... Jeff Gribbin jeff.grib...@eds.com 1/26/2009 6:41 AM Friends, At the end of this week, my time with EDS will be up. I expect to be moving into some state of partial-retirement and, as-yet, it is unclear = whether or not, IBMVM will form a part of my professional future. (Indeed, it's unclear exactly what kind of, professional future, if any= , I have in store). After a continuous 26+ years with Rolls-Royce and EDS, preceded by nine = years at Commercial Union, I am looking forward to the change with a high= degree of anticipation, coupled, of course, with some trepidation - intellectually we all know that the future is unpredictable no matter how, secure it may appear - but I believe that it's only at times in ou= r lives like this that we truly appreciate that fact! Being a part of, VM and the VM Community has been a huge part both of m= y professional and my personal life, and it's not something that one can = just casually walk away from - I suspect that, like many before me, I shall be - at the very least - lurking on IBMVM for some time to come -= but no longer as jeff.grib...@eds.com - this address will terminate as of= this weekend. So, at this crossroads, I'd just like to say, Thanks folks - I could never, ever, have made it this far without you and that I hope to maintain contact with the list in some way in at least the near future = even if, after this weekend, for the first time in over thirty-five years= , I'll no longer have a VM Login to call my own. (Maybe time to fire up VM/370 and Hercules ... grin) God Bless Regards Jeff _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash.
Re: EREP process question.
Thanks Ed. Ed Zell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/5/2008 8:31 AM Hi Howard, That file is just a “print header” file that we use to separate the reports. Since I use ‘CP SPOOL PRT CONT’ everything comes out in one spool file. I wanted some kind of header to show me where one ended and the next began. You can either remove these lines, or create file with those names for separator pages. ' PRINT SYSEXN RPT-HDR (CC' ' PRINT SUMMARY RPT-HDR (CC ' ' PRINT CLEARIT RPT-HDR (CC ' Here is what one of them looks like: 1 * ** ** ** ** ** SYSTEM EXCEPTION REPORT ** ** ** ** ** ** Ed Zell Illinois Mutual Life (309) 636-0107 From:The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 5:19 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: EREP process question. Ed, Once again thanks, The RUNEREP exec, when it gets to the following statement: 'PRINT SYSEXN RPT-HDR (CC' states that it can't find file SYSEXN RPT-HDR Is this really a separate file or something else. If separate could you forward a sample of the file. Thanks Ed Zell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/4/2008 4:55 PM Howard, Here is how we process EREP. Operator logs on to EREP and issues#CP EXTand then responds END to the prompt. Operator types RUNEREP to fire up the EXEC to process the data and then clear it out After it runs, Operator typesPROFILE to start EREP back up again and then #CP DISC /* RUNEREP EXEC PROCESS EREP DATA */ ' ACC 201 C/A' ‘ CP SPOOL PRINTER TO SPOOLER CLASS Z NOHOLD CONT' ' PRINT SYSEXN RPT-HDR (CC' ' EXEC SYSEXN ' ' PRINT SUMMARY RPT-HDR (CC ' ' EXEC SUMMARY ' ' PRINT CLEARIT RPT-HDR (CC ' ' EXEC CLEARIT' ' CP SPOOL PRINTER CLOSE NAME EREP 12345' ‘ REL C’ /* SYSEXN EXEC SYSTEM EXCEPTION REPORT */ MAKEBUF QUEUE 'SYSEXN,TABSIZE=512K,ACC=N ' QUEUE 'CPEREP' /* SUMMARY EXEC PRODUCE SUMMARY REPORT */ MAKEBUF QUEUE 'PRINT=SU,ACC=N,TABSIZE=100K,LINECT=60 ' QUEUE 'CPEREP' /* CLEARIT EXECCLEAR OUT THE FILE */ MAKEBUF QUEUE 'PRINT=AL,ACC=N,TABSIZE=100K,LINECT=60,ZERO=Y ' QUEUE 'CPEREP' Ed Zell Illinois Mutual Life (309) 636-0107 From:The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 3:32 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: EREP process question. I'm using the EREP parameter below to go against the z/VM EREP machine. The file XAEREPIO RECORD is out there and is some what larger then yesterday. Shouldn't the above file be deleted by these parameter? SYSUM ACC=Y ZERO=Y ENDPARM _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. Confidentiality: This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information, and unauthorized disclosure or use is prohibited. If you receive this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail from your system. _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you
Re: Starting an exec on a remote machine
Thanks Alan, After spending some time last night I found some processess, like you suggest below, which are run daily on our system to drag output from z/VM Rexx execs over to z/OS. Thanks again... Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/5/2008 9:34 AM On Thursday, 12/04/2008 at 06:54 EST, Howard Rifkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running exec X on cms user 'A' I exec X has to start exec Y running on cms user 'B' and after exec Y terminates it has to return control to the exec on cms user 'A' I could use some suggestions as to the best way to do this. If you're on the same VM system, REXEC is the best way to do that, assuming that user 'B' is not already logged on. REXEC has all the function to autolog a user, run a command, watch the console for output, send the output back to user A (as output from the 'rexec' command, trappable by a Pipe), and then logoff the user B. Use LOGON BY support so that User A doesn't have to know User B's password, just his own. (You can't do it using rexec without authentication. Well, you can, but then anyone could run the program in User B, not just User A.) If you're not on the same system, life gets more difficult since rexec isn't appropriate for open network connections as it isn't encrypted. One might be tempted to rexec into a local Linux guest that uses ssh to reach the remote system and use rexec over there, piping the response all the way back to you. This all assumes you're not wanting to write a remote execution solution yourself. If you do, just remember that you will need some sort of authentication and authorization. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash.
SMSG Authorization
I'm trying to SMSG the EREP guest and although I have set SMSG on the command comes back stating that the EREP guest isn't authorized. Is there anyway around this to get EREP authorized for SMSG? Will IUCV do it? so I can get EREP to execute a REXX exec from a command issued from a different virtual machine guest. Thanks. _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash.
Re: SMSG Authorization
Thanks all, Yes, my manager doesn't want the operators to get into this so it has to be all hands on. I got something like you are talking about here now working. Ed Zell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/5/2008 12:41 PM Howard, Are you by chance trying to run your EREP stuff without actually logging on to the virtual machine? If so, you might want to look at CP SEND I haven’t tried it so I might be all wet, but I think you could SEND CP EREP EXT SEND EREP END SEND EREP EXEC RUNEREP or something similar to this. You might need to be authorized as a secondary console, I can’t remember for sure. Ed Zell Illinois Mutual Life (309) 636-0107 From:The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 11:27 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: SMSG Authorization I'm trying to SMSG the EREP guest and although I have set SMSG on the command comes back stating that the EREP guest isn't authorized. Is there anyway around this to get EREP authorized for SMSG? Will IUCV do it? so I can get EREP to execute a REXX exec from a command issued from a different virtual machine guest. Thanks. Confidentiality: This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information, and unauthorized disclosure or use is prohibited. If you receive this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail from your system. _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash.
Missing Consultant ... Need to contact.
Sorry folks for this sort of post but my email has been purged prior to 11/1/08. I was speaking with some one regarding help with the installation of Dirmaint/RACF on z/VM. Can that person, if you read this message, please email me off list, need to speak with you. Thanks. _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash.
EREP process question.
I'm using the EREP parameter below to go against the z/VM EREP machine. The file XAEREPIO RECORD is out there and is some what larger then yesterday. Shouldn't the above file be deleted by these parameter? SYSUM ACC=Y ZERO=Y ENDPARM _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash.
Re: EREP process question.
Ed, Once again thanks, The RUNEREP exec, when it gets to the following statement: 'PRINT SYSEXN RPT-HDR (CC' states that it can't find file SYSEXN RPT-HDR Is this really a separate file or something else. If separate could you forward a sample of the file. Thanks Ed Zell [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/4/2008 4:55 PM Howard, Here is how we process EREP. Operator logs on to EREP and issues#CP EXTand then responds END to the prompt. Operator types RUNEREP to fire up the EXEC to process the data and then clear it out After it runs, Operator typesPROFILE to start EREP back up again and then #CP DISC /* RUNEREP EXEC PROCESS EREP DATA */ ' ACC 201 C/A' ‘ CP SPOOL PRINTER TO SPOOLER CLASS Z NOHOLD CONT' ' PRINT SYSEXN RPT-HDR (CC' ' EXEC SYSEXN ' ' PRINT SUMMARY RPT-HDR (CC ' ' EXEC SUMMARY ' ' PRINT CLEARIT RPT-HDR (CC ' ' EXEC CLEARIT' ' CP SPOOL PRINTER CLOSE NAME EREP 12345' ‘ REL C’ /* SYSEXN EXEC SYSTEM EXCEPTION REPORT */ MAKEBUF QUEUE 'SYSEXN,TABSIZE=512K,ACC=N ' QUEUE 'CPEREP' /* SUMMARY EXEC PRODUCE SUMMARY REPORT */ MAKEBUF QUEUE 'PRINT=SU,ACC=N,TABSIZE=100K,LINECT=60 ' QUEUE 'CPEREP' /* CLEARIT EXECCLEAR OUT THE FILE */ MAKEBUF QUEUE 'PRINT=AL,ACC=N,TABSIZE=100K,LINECT=60,ZERO=Y ' QUEUE 'CPEREP' Ed Zell Illinois Mutual Life (309) 636-0107 From:The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 3:32 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: EREP process question. I'm using the EREP parameter below to go against the z/VM EREP machine. The file XAEREPIO RECORD is out there and is some what larger then yesterday. Shouldn't the above file be deleted by these parameter? SYSUM ACC=Y ZERO=Y ENDPARM _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. Confidentiality: This e-mail (including any attachments) may contain confidential, proprietary and privileged information, and unauthorized disclosure or use is prohibited. If you receive this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete this e-mail from your system. _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash.
EREP guest machine problem.
I'm testing a rexx exec which another lister was good enough to give me. It does an: EREP EXT EREP END Then I do a CP FORCE EREP I copy the XAEREPIO RECORD file to my 'A' disk erase the XAEREPIO RECORD from the EREP 'A' disk and do an XAUTOLOG EREP There used to be a file on EREP's 'A' disk called CMS EXEC A I noticed that after running my exec several times that this file isn't there any longer. My exec only deletes the XAEREPIO RECORD file. Now EREP isn't creating the above file any long and there still isn't any CMS EXEC file even after a clean start. Questions is how to bring this back so recording starts again? Thanks. _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash.
Re: EREP guest machine problem.
Yes, I saw that in a trace of the PROFILE EXEC. However it appears that it doesn't get created unless the XAEREPIO RECORD file is there. So, which comes first? the chicken or the egg? Kris Buelens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/1/2008 5:07 PM I would be surprized that EREP needs this CMS EXEC (it is created by running LISTFILE (EXEC). 2008/12/1 Howard Rifkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm testing a rexx exec which another lister was good enough to give me. It does an: EREP EXT EREP END Then I do a CP FORCE EREP I copy the XAEREPIO RECORD file to my 'A' disk erase the XAEREPIO RECORD from the EREP 'A' disk and do an XAUTOLOG EREP There used to be a file on EREP's 'A' disk called CMS EXEC A I noticed that after running my exec several times that this file isn't there any longer. My exec only deletes the XAEREPIO RECORD file. Now EREP isn't creating the above file any long and there still isn't any CMS EXEC file even after a clean start. Questions is how to bring this back so recording starts again? Thanks. _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash.
Re: EREP guest machine problem.
Yes, results below: q rec RECORDINGCOUNT LMT USERID COMMUNICATION EREP ON 002 EREP ACTIVE ACCOUNT ON 020 DISKACNT ACTIVE SYMPTOM ON 002 OPERSYMP ACTIVE Ready; Bob Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/1/2008 5:23 PM First question since it isn't creating the XAEREPIO RECORD any more is: Is EREP receiving the records? Q REC and be sure it says: RECORDING COUNT LMT USERID COMMUNICATION EREP ON 000 002 EREP ACTIVE If it's not, did you kill the PROFILE EXEC? Bob Bates Enterprise Hosting Services w. (469)892-6660 c. (214) 907-5071 “This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 4:20 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: EREP guest machine problem. Yes, I saw that in a trace of the PROFILE EXEC. However it appears that it doesn't get created unless the XAEREPIO RECORD file is there. So, which comes first? the chicken or the egg? Kris Buelens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/1/2008 5:07 PM I would be surprized that EREP needs this CMS EXEC (it is created by running LISTFILE (EXEC). 2008/12/1 Howard Rifkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm testing a rexx exec which another lister was good enough to give me. It does an: EREP EXT EREP END Then I do a CP FORCE EREP I copy the XAEREPIO RECORD file to my 'A' disk erase the XAEREPIO RECORD from the EREP 'A' disk and do an XAUTOLOG EREP There used to be a file on EREP's 'A' disk called CMS EXEC A I noticed that after running my exec several times that this file isn't there any longer. My exec only deletes the XAEREPIO RECORD file. Now EREP isn't creating the above file any long and there still isn't any CMS EXEC file even after a clean start. Questions is how to bring this back so recording starts again? Thanks. _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash.
Re: EREP guest machine problem.
ERE191 2191 I R/O 2 3390 40964 11-03349 360 Huegel, Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/1/2008 5:28 PM Also do a Q DISK to see if the EREP A disk is full. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob Bates Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 4:23 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: EREP guest machine problem. First question since it isn't creating the XAEREPIO RECORD any more is: Is EREP receiving the records? Q REC and be sure it says: RECORDING COUNT LMT USERID COMMUNICATION EREP ON 000 002 EREP ACTIVE If it's not, did you kill the PROFILE EXEC? Bob Bates Enterprise Hosting Services w. (469)892-6660 c. (214) 907-5071 “This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 4:20 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: EREP guest machine problem. Yes, I saw that in a trace of the PROFILE EXEC. However it appears that it doesn't get created unless the XAEREPIO RECORD file is there. So, which comes first? the chicken or the egg? Kris Buelens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/1/2008 5:07 PM I would be surprized that EREP needs this CMS EXEC (it is created by running LISTFILE (EXEC). 2008/12/1 Howard Rifkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm testing a rexx exec which another lister was good enough to give me. It does an: EREP EXT EREP END Then I do a CP FORCE EREP I copy the XAEREPIO RECORD file to my 'A' disk erase the XAEREPIO RECORD from the EREP 'A' disk and do an XAUTOLOG EREP There used to be a file on EREP's 'A' disk called CMS EXEC A I noticed that after running my exec several times that this file isn't there any longer. My exec only deletes the XAEREPIO RECORD file. Now EREP isn't creating the above file any long and there still isn't any CMS EXEC file even after a clean start. Questions is how to bring this back so recording starts again? Thanks. _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash.
EREP Records
Hello, I think I touched on this subject before but... I want to extract the EREP records from the z/VM EREP user, bring them over to z/OS into a file and process them on z/OS. I linked to the EREP machines 191 disk and saw only file which was: XAEREPIO RECORD I1 V298 3537 97 11/26/08 10:23 I was wondering how I could force a daily cut off, retrieve the file and have EREP start recording a new file. Getting the file over to z/OS isn't an issue, just the above is. Thanks. _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash.
Re: EREP Records
Thanks Ray... The MW was a finger check...I use MR. Kris Buelens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/26/2008 12:16 PM Halt, Stop, take care, stay away, MultiWrite !!! I do read LINK EREP 191 111 MW Do you really want to corrupt EREP's 191 minidisk sooner or later? Never, never use MW on a LINK command unless you know the dangers and you are sure you are not in danger this time. Replace that by a LINK EREP 191 111 M this way the link will fail if there are other R/W links and you will not get a corrupted EREP 191. 2008/11/26 Ray Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Howard, This is one way it could be done. I am sure there are other ways Here is an old VM exec I named STOPEREP EXEC: TRACE OFF CP M OP CMD CP SEND CP EREP EXT CP SLEEP 5 SEC CP M OP CMD CP SEND EREP END CP SLEEP 5 SEC CP FORCE EREP EXIT Then CP DET 111 LINK EREP 191 111 MW ACC 111 G Copy the file XAEREPIO RECORD ERASE XAEREPIO RECORD G REL G(DET XAUTOLOG EREP Ray Waters From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 10:26 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: EREP Records Hello, I think I touched on this subject before but... I want to extract the EREP records from the z/VM EREP user, bring them over to z/OS into a file and process them on z/OS. I linked to the EREP machines 191 disk and saw only file which was: XAEREPIO RECORD I1 V298 3537 97 11/26/08 10:23 I was wondering how I could force a daily cut off, retrieve the file and have EREP start recording a new file. Getting the file over to z/OS isn't an issue, just the above is. Thanks. _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. NOTICE: This e-mail is intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise exempt from disclosure. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify us by replying to the original message at the listed email address. Thank You. -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash.
Switching between Xedit screens.
Hello all, I first Xedit one file then Xedit a second file, now there is one up front and one in the background. I don't want to do a 'screen 2' because it's to small, not enough text showing. How do I flip between the two screens? There has to be an easy way to do this. Thanks. _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash.
Moving Maint's 2CC Drive C
I'm out of space on MAINT's 2CC drive where the directory is located. I need to create a new 2CC. I plan to create a 3CC, copy all members over to the 3CC from the 2CC, delete the old 2CC, Create a new 2CC and copy all the members back to the 2CC from the 3CC. Are there any other issues I should be aware of? Thanks. _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash.
Re: Moving Maint's 2CC Drive C
Thanks all for you suggestions. Mike Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/20/2008 3:18 PM Generally a good plan. Remember to COPYFILE with the OLDDATE option. But when you have them copied to the 3CC, why not just delete the old 2CC, and rename the 3CC to 2CC? Saves a step. Mike Walter Hewitt Associates Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone and do not necessarily represent the opinions or policies of Hewitt Associates. Howard Rifkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 11/20/2008 02:01 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Moving Maint's 2CC Drive C I'm out of space on MAINT's 2CC drive where the directory is located. I need to create a new 2CC. I plan to create a 3CC, copy all members over to the 3CC from the 2CC, delete the old 2CC, Create a new 2CC and copy all the members back to the 2CC from the 3CC. Are there any other issues I should be aware of? Thanks. _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. The information contained in this e-mail and any accompanying documents may contain information that is confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, please immediately alert the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this message, including any attachments. Any dissemination, distribution or other use of the contents of this message by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. All messages sent to and from this e-mail address may be monitored as permitted by applicable law and regulations to ensure compliance with our internal policies and to protect our business. E-mails are not secure and cannot be guaranteed to be error free as they can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by e-mail. _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash.
Dumping the z/VM Reader Queue to a Tape
Hello, Can any one tell me the best way or what commands to use to dump the reader and print spool queues to tape? Thanks
Removing a Paging Volume
Is it possible to remove an active paging volume? If so what would be the proper procedure. The volume is currently 71% full but the VTOC is in the wrong place. I would like to clean this up with the VTOC on Cyl 0 then dynamically add this volume back in as paging space. Thanks. _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash.
Re: Removing a Paging Volume
Thanks all for the info, much appreciated. Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/5/2008 4:39 PM On Wednesday, 11/05/2008 at 04:04 EST, Bob Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well you can drain (CP DRAIN DASD rdev PAGE) it, but it might never come completely clean. And since it is running at 71%, I'd wonder about the ability of the other pack(s) to take up its load. You might want to consider adding some more page packs to the system if you can. Why is there a VTOC on a paging volume? There's always a VTOC - it tell other systems that the disk has no available extents for allocation. I'm trying to figure out how the VTOC got somewhere other than cyl 0! If it's laying in the middle of the pack somewhere (result of mdisk) and that record isn't formatted as a 4K record (labels are 80 bytes), there's going to be trouble if CP chooses that record to page to! Though thinking about it some more, I think CP will simply mark that record as in error and skip it. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash.
Re: Very Slow Linux Running Second Level z/VM
yes --- On Tue, 10/21/08, Marcy Cortes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Marcy Cortes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Very Slow Linux Running Second Level z/VM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 9:04 PM Is he on the eligible list? (ind queues)? Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 5:34 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] Very Slow Linux Running Second Level z/VM Hello all, We are testing at our D/R site. We are running our z/VM under the D/R sites z/VM. z/VM, both first and second level running like gang busters along with one z/OS and VSE guest, plus other minor z/VM user ids. Processor is a z9 and the lpars are all weighted equally. At present we have 3 processors dedicated to us and no one else is using the z9 and Linux is running in our z/VM. There isn't any paging at first level and almost no paging at second level yet when we bring up one Linux guest it is very very slow and nothing is showing up in any of the monitoring tools. We aren't running in an IFL, no IFL's on this z9. It also seems that the only portion of this is that is really very slow is the JVM linux machines or JVM within Linux is what is killing us. (hope I defined the question correctly) Any suggestions were to look and what we can try to impove the situation would be appreciated. Thanks
Very Slow Linux Running Second Level z/VM
Hello all, We are testing at our D/R site. We are running our z/VM under the D/R sites z/VM. z/VM, both first and second level running like gang busters along with one z/OS and VSE guest, plus other minor z/VM user ids. Processor is a z9 and the lpars are all weighted equally. At present we have 3 processors dedicated to us and no one else is using the z9 and Linux is running in our z/VM. There isn't any paging at first level and almost no paging at second level yet when we bring up one Linux guest it is very very slow and nothing is showing up in any of the monitoring tools. We aren't running in an IFL, no IFL's on this z9. It also seems that the only portion of this is that is really very slow is the JVM linux machines or JVM within Linux is what is killing us. (hope I defined the question correctly) Any suggestions were to look and what we can try to impove the situation would be appreciated. Thanks
Education: Dirmaint/RACF
I have registered twice for the 4.5 day class in the above and both times IBM canceled because of insufficient number of people registering. Anyone know of an outside group providing such classes? Thanks _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash.
Re: Education: Dirmaint/RACF
T.Y. Bill Munson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/17/2008 3:41 PM Yes - I do VM Resources does I will provide information off line to you Howard. Bill Munson Brown Brothers Harriman Sr. z/VM Systems Programmer 201-418-7588 President MVMUA http://www2.marist.edu/~mvmua/ Howard Rifkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 10/17/2008 03:36 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Education: Dirmaint/RACF I have registered twice for the 4.5 day class in the above and both times IBM canceled because of insufficient number of people registering. Anyone know of an outside group providing such classes? Thanks _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. *** IMPORTANT NOTE * The opinions expressed in this message and/or any attachments are those of the author and not necessarily those of Brown Brothers Harriman Co., its subsidiaries and affiliates BBH. There is no guarantee that this message is either private or confidential, and it may have been altered by unauthorized sources without your or our knowledge. Nothing in the message is capable or intended to create any legally binding obligations on either party and it is not intended to provide legal advice. BBH accepts no responsibility for loss or damage from its use, including damage from virus. *** _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash.
REXX Coding Question.
Greetings. Is there anyway to perform an arithmetic operation (add/subtract) on a string of numbers that has a leading '0' (zero) and perceive the leading zero? If I have the following: X = 01234 and I add/subtract some number from the above the leading zero is gone. Thanks _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash.
Re: REXX Coding Question.
Thanks all, good suggestions...
Bob Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/15/2008 10:59 AM
If you need leading zeroes to preserve the length of a number or for
pattern matching (usually happens for me when I add one to month and
need to compare something like 4/01/08 to 04/01/08) then I put the zero
back on with right.
Example
x=01234
y = x + 1
y = right('0'y,5)
say y
Results in 01235
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Subject: REXX Coding Question.
Greetings.
Is there anyway to perform an arithmetic operation (add/subtract) on a
string of numbers that has a leading '0' (zero) and perceive the leading
zero?
If I have the following:
X = 01234
and I add/subtract some number from the above the leading zero is
gone.
Thanks
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Re: REXX Coding Question.
Yes, this is exactly what I used.
Works just fine...thanks again.
Mike Rydberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/15/2008 11:05 AM
Or use the pad character.
y = right(y,5,’0’)
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Subject: Re: REXX Coding Question.
If you need leading zeroes to preserve the length of a number or for
pattern matching (usually happens for me when I add one to month and
need to compare something like 4/01/08 to 04/01/08) then I put the zero
back on with right.
Example
x=01234
y = x + 1
y = right('0'y,5)
say y
Results in 01235
Bob Bates
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z/Linux (
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Subject: REXX Coding Question.
Greetings.
Is there anyway to perform an arithmetic operation (add/subtract) on a
string of numbers that has a leading '0' (zero) and perceive the leading
zero?
If I have the following:
X = 01234
and I add/subtract some number from the above the leading zero is
gone.
Thanks
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Are REXX EXEC's Reentrant
Are REXX EXEC's considered to be reentrant? As in writing CICS type of code being either fully reentrant or qusi reentrant. If they aren't how can you create on one that is? Thanks. _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash.
Re: Are REXX EXEC's Reentrant
Thanks, good to know. Reason I'm asking is because I have one exec which calls or an exec others at the same time in production. Kris Buelens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/13/2008 12:25 PM REXX execs are reentrant. For a non-reentrant exec, one would need to code an exec that modifies itself (common in VM's middleages when EXEC-1 was the only thing we had, and EXEC-1 cuts everything to 8 chars, except for what was between BEGSTACK and END). 2008/10/13 Howard Rifkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are REXX EXEC's considered to be reentrant? As in writing CICS type of code being either fully reentrant or qusi reentrant. If they aren't how can you create on one that is? Thanks. _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. -- Kris Buelens, IBM Belgium, VM customer support _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash.
z/VM EREP processing.
Would any one on the list have some procedures to process the z/VM EREP records. If so, would you be good enough to share? Just attach a reply to this email. Thanks. _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash.
Disk Accounting Records
Disk accounting records...what to do with them. Is there anything in VM that will allow you to process these records and if so where and what is it. I've been asked to do something like offload these records and clean up accounting's A/191 disk. Any suggestions would be much appreciated. Thanks BTW, also how about the EREP records, we do process the z/OS records would it also be a duplication to process the EREP records form z/VM?
