Re: [ilugd] (long mail - a report) Linux FOSS workshop at Acharya Narendra Dev College (Delhi University) formation of College LUG

2007-12-11 Thread Karanbir Singh
Saurabh Nanda wrote:
 you might find the laugh being at your expense, when you realise that
 its an outsourced service.
 
 
 I don't think so. Large corporations have strict guidelines and
 specifications that their vendors need to follow. These may include:
 
 * software with exact version
 * coding guidelines
 * documentation guidelines
 * brand guidelines for logo placements, selection of fonts, selection of
 colours etc. (Microsoft has a 3kg glossy printed book detailing each one of
 these)
 
 So, Microsoft, theoretically, has full control over what their vendors do.
 It's a different matter, that in this case they're not exercising it,

sounds like blind assumption to me.

as Ashish already pointed out, most of this content stuff is from 
akamai, which run Linux and Bsd across the board.

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Re: [ilugd] (long mail - a report) Linux FOSS workshop at Acharya Narendra Dev College (Delhi University) formation of College LUG

2007-12-11 Thread Karanbir Singh
Vikas Rawal wrote:
 It is nevertheless interesting that a company that sells operating
 systems for servers and web server software, does not/cannot get its
 own website hosted on their own software.

ok, this is getting a bit silly here.
Vikas, there are people like akamai who run thousands of servers at
various peerings points all over the internet and sell that as a service
to other people, whoever might want to use it.

 After all, in principle, they could go to another vendor who will
 host their website on their platform!!

its about a service, not a religion.

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Re: [ilugd] (long mail - a report) Linux FOSS workshop at Acharya Narendra Dev College (Delhi University) formation of College LUG

2007-12-10 Thread Karanbir Singh
Linux Lingam wrote:
 it was demonstrated to the
 participants (through www.netcraft.com website) that even microsoft was
 running their server (download.microsoft.com) using Linux as the OS.
 Participants wondered if this was the case of that builder who would not
 live in building made by himself. !
 hahahahaa. ROTFL
 brilliant!

you might find the laugh being at your expense, when you realise that 
its an outsourced service.



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Re: [ilugd] First fedora mirror in India.

2007-12-10 Thread Karanbir Singh
Rakesh Pandit wrote:
 Hello,
 
 After only official GNU mirror here, NITH (http://nitham.ac.in/)now
 has the first
 official Fedora mirror in India. See:
 http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/
 
 Fedora: http://fedora.glug-nith.org/linux/
 Gnu: http://gnu.glug-nith.org/
 
 GLUG-NITH: http://glug-nith.org/
 
 Though, with not that good bandwidth. :( But, folks there are working
 at it to get  more bandwidth :)
 

The CentOS project has had a few mirrors i India for a while now.  There 
were 2 in Pune and 1 in Hyderabad, along with the iitm mirror. However, 
checking now, only the iitm mirror has been updated in the last few hours.

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Re: [ilugd] First fedora mirror in India.

2007-12-10 Thread Karanbir Singh
Rakesh Pandit wrote:
 Hello,
 
 After only official GNU mirror here, NITH (http://nitham.ac.in/)now
 has the first
 official Fedora mirror in India. See:
 http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/
 
 Fedora: http://fedora.glug-nith.org/linux/
 Gnu: http://gnu.glug-nith.org/
 
 GLUG-NITH: http://glug-nith.org/
 
 Though, with not that good bandwidth. :( But, folks there are working
 at it to get  more bandwidth :)
 
btw, the iitm guys seem to also be carrying Fedora along with a bunch of 
other distros!  http://ftp.iitm.ac.in/

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Re: [ilugd] Centos 5 desktop problem

2007-12-03 Thread Karanbir Singh
Vijay Thakur wrote:
 Dear Tux Lovers
 
 Recently i un-installed samba package by add-remove Software option in Centos 
 5. After completion of this task my desktop went blank, Yet i am able to view 
 taskbar,date  time, panels also. But there is no icons on the desktop. The 
 left or right click function of the mouse is not working.
 Please give me the solution otherwise i have to re-install the centos. 

did you check what all other packages will be removed when you uninstall
samba, before clicking confirm ?

I would suggest you look at the /var/log/messages file and replace the
gnome specific packages that were removed

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Re: [ilugd] Fedora Mirror Selection

2007-11-24 Thread Karanbir Singh
Anil Seth wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Fedora 8 shortlists mirrors from China/Japan/Russia with my ip.
 I manually changed the mirrors to the ones in US/Australia for better
 performance but
 yum seems to update that list.
 
 Any idea how I can ensure a more appropriate selection of mirrors in
 the absence of any in India?

how about installing the yum-fastestmirror plugin ? that way, it will
speed test the mirrors and give you what should be the fastest one for
your connection.

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Re: [ilugd] how to get latest created file

2007-11-12 Thread Karanbir Singh
ankIT WALiA wrote:
 Can anyone tell me, how to get latest created file from a folder to be
 used in shell script?
 

iNotify ?

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Re: [ilugd] best MTA for an ISP

2007-11-12 Thread Karanbir Singh
Sumit Kumar wrote:
 hello everyone .
 I just wanna have ur opinion about what would u use as MTA if u were
 an ISP with about 15000 users. In respect of QMAIL and POSTFIX.
 

exim ?

it will give you a much better feature matrix, a more robust security 
model and fantastic functionality and flexibility when you need it 
without the overhead of sendmails complex setup and management cruft.

If you havent already, take a look at Exim. seriously.

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Re: [ilugd] [OT] $share_fedora_8_iso if $planning_to_download $living_near_DELHI_metro_station

2007-11-11 Thread Karanbir Singh
Anupam Jain wrote:
 On Nov 11, 2007 8:37 PM, Manmohan Sethi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hello Sir,

 My Name is Manmohan Sethi, I have purchased a New Laptop Compaq
 Persario V6608AU and I am finding it difficult to load Ubuntu 7.04 on
 it. Hence I am looking for Fedora 8 DVD. If you can provide that DVD
 then I will be greatful to you. Please tell me how I can contact you
 in Gurgoan.

 
 Rather than give up on Ubuntu I suggest posting the issues you are facing
 here on this list so that people can help you. There is no reason to believe
 that Fedora will easily install on a computer which Ubuntu does not support.
 

I might disagree :D

Fedora8 loads and works fine on a colleagues desktop machine - that 
Ubuntu 7.04 and 7.10 refused to complete booting with.

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Re: [ilugd] quickie! which blog-engine for foss cc-license + more?

2007-10-24 Thread Karanbir Singh
Linux Lingam wrote:
 dear all,
 
 which blog-engine/site do you recommend, and why, i sign into, for
 bleating about foss and more under a cc or similar license, that also
 links to flickr and youtube?
 
 blogger.com
 typepad
 movable type
 livejournal
 wordpress
 manila
 atom-enabled
 metaweblogapi...
 vox blog

b2evo ?


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[ilugd] [OT] {Commercial?} IT Support for a Charity in Delhi

2007-10-18 Thread Karanbir Singh
Hi,

I am looking for someone ( small company, enthu and energy required ) who can 
help setup and then manage / support a small number of people who are working 
to 
start up a charity in Delhi. If you have done some similar work that would 
really help, however you are not expected to be a charity yourself - you will 
definitely get paid reasonable rates for the work done!

While there is no reason or request from them to actually use Linux, they are 
very much OS agnostic and would prefer to work with non commercial solutions. 
And I would really like to use the opportunity to help the local Delhi Linux 
base.

Unfortunately, I would need to break general LUG ethics and cant mention the 
name of the Charity at this point. what I can tell you is that they are backed 
by a large business house and are working in the area of medical aid generation 
and distribution.

They have a few offices in Delhi and one in Gurgaon so you might need to move 
around a bit. Also, they would prefer if the support came from an external 
agency or from people working on a consulting / hourly rate rather than having 
to hire someone into their organisation.

Sounds interesting ? Drop me an email and we can take it from there.

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Re: [ilugd] [OT] Need help choosing a processor Intel or AMD

2007-10-11 Thread Karanbir Singh
VIKAS RATHEE wrote:
 i suggest u should go for nte products the simple reson being that intel
 uses more cache size than the AMD which AMD compensates with more clock
 speed which  does not  in any case can give the benefit or  larger cache
 size ..
 so i would suggest intel to you

not everything in life boils down to cache size. I would suggest you do
some ground research first.

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Re: [ilugd] [Gaming] Open source FPS games

2007-10-10 Thread Karanbir Singh
Vikram Ranade wrote:
 
 Anyhow ,I installed some amazing games
 - Urban Terror http://www.urbanterror.net/
 - Open Arena http://www.openarena.ws/
 - Tremulous http://www.tremulous.net/
 

while not open source itself, you might want to look at enemy territory based 
on 
the wolf3d engine. that along with noquarter mod or etpro mod are very popular 
on the internet. Its also something I've been playing for a few years and there 
are loads of clans around.

the newest edition et: quake wars, was just released recently and rumour has it 
that there will be native linux support

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Re: [ilugd] [OT] Need help choosing a processor Intel or AMD

2007-10-06 Thread Karanbir Singh
Rohit Kumar wrote:
 I have heard and read a little about the intel series(extreme/core 2/dual 
 core)
 and  also got to know about the unavailability of intel extreme as of now. :-(

how about the 6600 quad core ? is that available at the moment ? Its by
far the best bang-for-the-buck you can get in the UK / US markets at the
moment. And AMD really does not have anything in the same league.

 But then /me just widened the scope by thinking about AMD.

look at it this way, in most cases where you need to push loads of data,
AMD tends to be the better choice, if you need to push clock cycles,
Intel does.

 I have no info on how good (or bad) linux runs on AMD.

works fine, and you will get support for pretty much everything that
might even be AMD specific like amd-v etc.

 But have read on forums that AMD is actually far ahead of intel.

only in some areas, not everywhere :) but one place it is better is
pushing data. So if you are looking at things like Databases, playing
movies, playing games etc - AMD would definitely score higher than its
corresponding intel chip at the same price point.

btw, dont always believe it when people say AMD chips are cheaper than
Intel ones - Compare chips that cost the same amount of money, and take
cost out of the equation completely. Its the only way you can make a
fair comparison on what you get.

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[ilugd] OT: VoIP blocked somewhere ?

2007-09-30 Thread Karanbir Singh

Just wondering if anyone else knows about this / has seen this before. I
am on the bsnl broadband network at the moment, and there seems to be a
definite block on the VoIP ports inbound.

is this something that bsnl publicly accepts ?

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Re: [ilugd] key-signing party ?

2007-09-20 Thread Karanbir Singh
Sudev Barar wrote:
 Karanbir it would indeed be nice to do key signing party. I will see
 if this can be added to the program...maybe during first day itself.


sounds good, just remember to let people know that they need atleast 1 form of 
photo-id on them that they dont mind showing other people. And they should have 
a few copies of their gpg fingerprint *on paper* that they can give other 
people 
to take away ( and sign whenever they get online ! )

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[ilugd] key-signing party ?

2007-09-19 Thread Karanbir Singh
guys,

something on the freed.in list is broken / slow - my membership request from 
there has not come through with an auth-request in over 8 hrs, so posting here 
for now.

Whats the potential for hosting a gpg-key-signing party at freed.in ?


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Re: [ilugd] cheap trick with multiple gmail accounts for concurrent logins

2007-09-14 Thread Karanbir Singh
hey,

Mosharraf Jamal wrote:
 this is a nice solution but if u have to open 2 or 3 accounts simultaneously
 u can use more than one internet browsers installed on ur PC.. i use 3 gmail
 ids concurrently using IE, netscape and mozilla.

I believe, the virtualisation option was in jest - is not really meant to be a 
serious option even worth considering - as has already been said before, an 
overkill by all means.

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Re: [ilugd] cheap trick with multiple gmail accounts for concurrent logins

2007-09-13 Thread Karanbir Singh
vivek khurana wrote:
  Well let me offer you a really high tech solution for
 this. Why not buy a multicore Quad (or any number
 greater than one) processor box. Put loads of RAM into
 it. Then use virtulaization and run multiple instances
 of OSes on your box. That way you can launch a new
 firefox window in every OS and login to different
 gmail accounts.

or you could use openvz/centos5 on a p-4 2.6/1 GBram and run 12 instances in 
userland and send me all the money you were going to spend on that quad core 
with loads of ram.

I accept paypal.

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Re: [ilugd] cheap trick with multiple gmail accounts for concurrent logins

2007-09-13 Thread Karanbir Singh
Piyush Kumar wrote:
 yeah Karan!!!.CentOS5 with Xen- virtualiztion(para-virtualized)...works
 fine on P4 2 / 1 G ram machinebut 12 instances.they gonna make ur
 mac. slow slow...v.slow infact.. :(
 
 On 9/13/07, Karanbir Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 vivek khurana wrote:
  Well let me offer you a really high tech solution for
 this. Why not buy a multicore Quad (or any number
 greater than one) processor box. Put loads of RAM into
 it. Then use virtulaization and run multiple instances
 of OSes on your box. That way you can launch a new
 firefox window in every OS and login to different
 gmail accounts.
 or you could use openvz/centos5 on a p-4 2.6/1 GBram and run 12 instances
 in
 userland and send me all the money you were going to spend on that quad
 core
 with loads of ram.


Piyush, you missed the openvz part of my comment. I did not mention Xen.

Also, try not top posting. As you can see from this email now, conversational 
flow is pretty much shot.

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Re: [ilugd] Adding an image to Disclaimer on Outgoing e-mails

2007-09-07 Thread Karanbir Singh
Jasbir Khehra wrote:
 Now the higher ones want the company logo as part of disclaimer on all
 outgoing email. The setup for disclaimer is  postfix --- altermime

you might want to point out to them the cost of such, in transport terms. The 
general point against email ethics. And finally, such disclaimers are not 
enforceable. Eamil is a means of communication and under common law terms 
handled as such.

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Re: [ilugd] [off-topic] UPS catches fire

2007-09-05 Thread Karanbir Singh
Linux Lingam wrote:
 any specific things to watch out for in the unit?

things that dont go *boom* would be good :)


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Re: [ilugd] Google earth and open proj on XGL

2007-08-29 Thread Karanbir Singh
Shiv wrote:
 Thanks for that. I am indeed cursed with an ATI card!
 I guess I'll not get to rotate the desktop with Google-earth or OpenProj!!
 Time to get another laptop?

I have an ATI based laptop, and have no problems with the compiz/beryl + aiglx 
combo using xorg-drv-ati or with google earth. however, i dont really care much 
for most of this desktop eyecandy, so just use ati's drivers ( since I do enjoy 
a bit of enemy-territory  + true combat elite + quake4 ) and get framerates 
like 
this :

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ glxgears
45865 frames in 5.0 seconds = 9172.979 FPS
61548 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12309.445 FPS
59406 frames in 5.0 seconds = 11881.133 FPS
59597 frames in 5.0 seconds = 11919.334 FPS
61542 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12308.389 FPS
61425 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12284.986 FPS

and...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ fgl_glxgears
Using GLX_SGIX_pbuffer
8041 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1608.200 FPS
8219 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1643.800 FPS
8326 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1665.200 FPS
8326 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1665.200 FPS

What non ATI based laptop do you plan on getting that will give you this sort 
of 
performance ?

btw, I also have a intel core2 - i945 based laptop and i wont bother publishing 
graphic stats for that... its almost embarrassing.


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[ilugd] sizing benchmark for NX

2007-08-22 Thread Karanbir Singh
hi,

during the talk at JNU last month, one issue that came up was the sizing model 
- 
how much resource you need to throw into the backend infrastructure to make the 
thin-client model work using NX/freenx.

I finally had the time to do some testing and it seems that a machine of the 
following spec, is 'enough' to run between 20 - 22 Desktop Clients.

2 AMD Opteron 252
8 Gigs of RAM
6 500GB sata-3 drives, ext3 ( on a 3ware 9560, in a raid-0+1 )

a DesktopClient was basically someone who was running all these at the same 
time:

Firefox - 6 to 8 tabs open
OO-Calc - 200 KB doc open
a Couple of Terminal windows
Thunderbird
GAIM
GIMP - with a 5 MB file open
And the usual gnome panel stuff, like the weather applet, a couple of resource 
monitoring applets

Depending on I/O requirements you can actually scale the same machine upto 40 
odd users if they dont hit the drives that much.

Hope this helps ( sorry, i didnt get the name of the person who was asking this 
question.. )

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Re: [ilugd] Mandriva 2007 Spring Edition

2007-08-14 Thread Karanbir Singh
Sahil Dave wrote:
 Hi all LUG-D members,
 
 we urgently require a DVD of Mandriva 2007 Spring Edition. If any of you
 have it plz contact me


why dont you just call them up ( Mandriva ) and buy a supported edition from 
them ?

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Re: [ilugd] free alternatives to blackberry

2007-08-08 Thread Karanbir Singh
Kevin Muller wrote:
 I am about to buy a blackberry for my hutch postpaid connection. I was 
 just wondering if there are free alternatives to blackberry.. i was told 

I've been using a Nokia E61 with a remote IMAP server for email when on the 
road, and it does work fine. Since its IMAP you get an identical folder view 
from pretty much anywhere.

Alternatively, if you still want to go down the blackberry route, the E61 has a 
module you can download off the nokia website that lets you setup pushemail on 
the phone.

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Re: [ilugd] free alternatives to blackberry

2007-08-08 Thread Karanbir Singh
hi Ankur,

Ankur Rohatgi wrote:
 I switched to a Nokia e90 communicator recently and unfortunately while
 it supports IMAP-IDLE, its not too good doing it. So i had to bite the
 bullet and get the blackberry connect software on my e90. Which i think
 is still better than getting a blackberry phone.

isnt network access cost these days low enough to not need to really worry 
about 
  IMAP-IDLE really ?

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Re: [ilugd] Offline Package Manager (RUM) version 0.0.1 released.

2007-07-14 Thread Karanbir Singh
Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray wrote:
 I hereby announce the release of the Fedora Offline Package Manager (RUM) 
 0.0.1.
 
 This program is meant to enable users who do not have a viable network
 connection to manage their packages, ie. install new ones and update
 existing ones, through the standard package management framework used
 in Fedora.

sound good. Just wondering if there is a specific yum version dependency
 here ? Essentially, how well will it work with yum-2.4.x ?

also, there already is a package for rum- and its already related to yum
:/ what are you going to call the package name ?

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Re: [ilugd] [Fwd: Monthly Meet - July 2007]

2007-07-11 Thread Karanbir Singh
Gora Mohanty wrote:
 Hello all,
   Not sure why this was needed, but this meeting is now officially
 approved: 2pm, Sun., July 15th., at the JNU bio-informatics centre.

aha! So its not at [EMAIL PROTECTED] then ?
  2) Con Karanbir Singh to give a tech talk.

(!)

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Re: [ilugd] [OSS Camp, Delhi: 77] Re: The Weekend Meet?

2007-07-10 Thread Karanbir Singh
Linux Lingam wrote:
 this is a scheduled community meet?  I was under the impression i am being
 called upon to help better understand the very concept of oss camp... lol..
 this changes things :P


 
 kishore posted a tentative agenda with three topics. one of them is you
 helping us all better understand osscamp.
 
 now if i can just tar.gz my mouth while kishore, gora, and others take this
 forward i'd be very very very happy, and even more to see ya all at the
 scheduled meet.
 
 kinshuk, i hope you are subscribed to the linux-delhi general mailing list.
 please confirm?

ok so here is the problem, I am subscribed to ilugd's lists and this 
conversation makes no sense whatsoever.

all thats making it through is bits of mostly irrelevant info.

btw, afaict that long list of CC's is already subscribed to the ilugd list... 
so 
dropping them.

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Re: [ilugd] Looking for Linux Experts !!!

2007-06-27 Thread Karanbir Singh
Priyanka Parmar(Mancer Consulting) wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 Is there anyone, who is interested in a Technical Architect's role with a 
 leading MNC in Noida (Telecom/Semiconductor)
 

/SIGNEEDMOREINFO


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Re: [ilugd] Stanley Thomas' blog: GNU/Linux Performance Tweaks

2007-06-18 Thread Karanbir Singh
Stanley Thomas wrote:
 
 http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/388

that seems to be a bit random, do people still use 1990's tech to host servers 
on ? I mean its been about 7 years into this decade why not upgrade the 
platform 
a bit..

Anyway, I shall have a xfs/ext3 test for people in a few days time - I hope to 
get sometime next weekend and will do some numbers. And Ext4 is just around the 
bend with even more tuneables :)

 You pointed out well with its .ko not loaded. The above comment was
 directed towards people doing a fresh install and who wouldnt know how
 to disable the loading of particular modules after installation.

ok, sorry for not being clear on that one - I meant, what is the performance 
degradation on the machine with and without the .ko loaded. the clock cycles 
its 
going to bite into are trivial at best. but still I'd like to know how you 
quantified it and exactly how much that was.

 on a fresh centos 5 installation these were my results using both
 software raid AND lvm on a partition:

why would you want to use mdraid and lvm ? lvm already gives you span and 
mirror. ok, if you want to use a cheap way of doing hot-swap the newer mdraid 
might come in handy ( I dont know much about this, have not used it ).

 /dev/VolGroup00/Dom0Root:
 Timing cached reads:   3932 MB in  2.00 seconds = 1965.86 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads:  100 MB in  1.66 seconds =  60.41 MB/sec
 /dev/sda1:
 Timing cached reads:   4076 MB in  2.00 seconds = 2038.65 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads:  190 MB in  3.01 seconds =  63.12 MB/sec
 
 both my partition sizes were identical. Oh and by the way ext3
 partitions both of 'em.

you need to basically make sure the drive geometry is identical in both cases, 
not just the partition size's. also, ext3 is the only filesystem supported by 
centos-5 at install time :) you need to get xfs post install.

Also, things that will make a major difference here are your CPU load levels 
and 
the hba being used.

Regards,

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Re: [ilugd] Stanley Thomas' blog: GNU/Linux Performance Tweaks

2007-06-18 Thread Karanbir Singh
 simply by pullin it outta thin air. i do try my best to write stuff
 based on facts. 

This is the exact situation I'd hoped  to avoid when I said dont misread my 
first email. I am not saying anything along the lines of 'you dream up facts'- 
but what I am saying is that enforce your stuff with hard facts and numbers, 
people are more likely to understand exactly what you are trying to achieve, 
and 
the circumstances under which they apply. eg. saying use linux and apache 
because they are better than windows and iis, does not have the same appeal as 
- 
use linux and apache since it can give you 8.5% [1] higher delivery rate on php 
generated content than iis on win2k3 server.

So what I am saying is that, while you are aware of the specifics, put them 
down 
along with the comments and dont make wide across-the-board generalisations.

 thanx mr. singh. lets try to avoid the i have a the only rabbit with
 2 ears kindda conversation.

Dear Mr Thomas, I dont know what that phrase implies... do tell more.

Regards,

- K

[1]: The 8.5% figure quoted from a client evaluation that was done in early 
March 2007 between a stock win2k3+iis install and RHEL4/apache - we were not 
allowed to tune anything. The machine was a dell 2950 with 8 GB ram, and 6x73 
GB 
15k sas drives.

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Re: [ilugd] Stanley Thomas' blog: GNU/Linux Performance Tweaks

2007-06-17 Thread Karanbir Singh
Not meaning to be rude, but a lot of stuff in this email is actually 
misinformation and downright misleading.

Have you actually done any tests to highlight these issues ?

I dont personally have the time to go into most of the things but some of the 
stuff is just hard to swallow. eg. I can physically demonstrate an ext3 
filesystem outperform xfs on a standard  database load.

Frederick Noronha [फ्रेडरिक नोरोन्या] wrote:
 lot of junk in there that you may never require. For example, if the
 machine is going to be used as a file server the on-board sound card
 is never going to be used, or if the machine is never to be connected

Would you like to share some numbers to demonstrate how much performance you 
loose with a sound card enabled on the bios, with its .ko not loaded ? oprofile 
reports would be nice to go along with your numbers.

 During installation do try your best to avoid software raid and lvm
 unless absolutely required. These are two lovely features but both of
 'em degrade performance considerably. 

again, how much is 'considerable' in your books ? Here are some numbers from a 
machine I was working on a few minutes back. I actually went through the 
motions 
of doing 2 stock installs for centos-5/x86_64 one with lvm and the other 
without 
lvm just for the purpose of bring in specific numbers. Here is what I get with 
lvm:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# df -h
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00
   901G  533G  322G  63% /
/dev/sda1  99M   19M   76M  20% /boot
tmpfs 1.7G 0  1.7G   0% /dev/shm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# hdparm -tT /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00

/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00:
  Timing cached reads:   2444 MB in  2.00 seconds = 1222.07 MB/sec
  Timing buffered disk reads:  514 MB in  3.01 seconds = 170.64 MB/sec

And here are the numbers without LVM, portioned identically:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# hdparm -tT /dev/sda

/dev/sda:
  Timing cached reads:   2411 MB in  2.00 seconds = 1200.50 MB/sec
  Timing buffered disk reads:  512 MB in  3.01 seconds = 170.09 MB/sec

this is on a machine with 2 socket, 4 core - AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 285
and :
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# lspci | grep RAID
0a:0e.0 RAID bus controller: Areca Technology Corp. ARC-1110 4-Port PCI-X to 
SATA RAID Controller

running with the bog standard centos-5 install out of the box.

I suppose it would be much more worthwhile to run a bonnie++ test, but ...

 Most of us know that ext2/ext3 is the filesystem that has to be used
 during installation. No doubt that the ext2/ext3 file system is very
 reliable but if you are seriously looking forward towards a faster and
 much more responsive system ext2/ext3 is a bad option.

*cough* not true *cough* :)

While it is nice to see someone take on an initiative of this nature, and 
please 
dont get me wrong on this - I am not being negative about your email or your 
post.

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Re: [ilugd] eben moglen on tv

2007-06-12 Thread Karanbir Singh
Sandip Bhattacharya wrote:
 True. But I would like to ask if broadcasts made by a public broadcaster can 
 be shared
 for non-commercial public sharing. How is it done the world over?

afaik, this isnt possible using straight broadcast material. Some content 
companies and establishments will make an alternative copy available online 
either on their website or someone else's website and attach a more liberal 
licensing policy with that. Nothing broadcast using conventional means is ever 
really liberally licensed.

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Re: [ilugd] eben moglen on tv

2007-06-11 Thread Karanbir Singh
Linux Lingam wrote:
 dear all,
 
 eben moglen's talk on saturday was moderated by paranjoy guha thakurtha.
 after the talk he mentioned to me that within one hour he was
 interviewing eben for a tv report. here are the details:
 
 17 june 2007, 6pm, on loksabha tv
 
 yup, that's a bit of an obscure tv channel.
 so anyone here got a tv tuner card or something so perhaps you could
 post a digitized version on youtube for the world-at-large?

irony at its best pre-requests for breaking the law, for Eben's content!

- KB

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Re: [ilugd] Weird RPM naming ( drifting OT here... )

2007-05-31 Thread Karanbir Singh
Yashpal Nagar wrote:
 I don't know how is the redhat 
 support in India but in UK it is not so.

I dont agree :) We work with Redhat people onsite ( in the UK ) and even on 
remote setups - and i can assure you, they are some of the best techies to have 
on your side when things break :)

Also, the issue you had was covered quite well in general documentation about 
the product you are using.

 Lastly, I have been chasing them to update their own subcription 
 databases and then they said to wait since they follow everything with 
 US technical team, which is again a not less then a week project. 
 Finally redhat give us trial version of RHEL which then later linked to 
 licensed copy of RHEL. See the pain here is we paid the licenses months 
 ago but we end up installing nearly 15 boxes with trial version of RHEL.

I really cant parse this Also, i didnt realise there was something 
different 
with the RHEL trial version and the subscription version ( specially during the 
trial period ). And I've never had more of an issue than just transferring the 
rhn entitlements over to new machines or new versions when they come out.

 Same is the case with SUSE support, vendors/retailers take their money 
 and gone! For them it is a very minute issue if some license does't 
 work,or some problem is there.

That is also quite an interesting statement - SuSe has , by far, had the best 
support setup inhouse for years and years, I remember talking to people back in 
2000 - 2001 and getting kernel patches out from them overnight to handle 
specific issues. While this has *significantly* gone down in recent years, its 
not really that bad, to be completely written off. And a lot of that talent has 
moved into VAR's and associated business post Novel, should you want, I am 
happy 
to put you in touch with some of them.

shameless plug perhaps you need someone to come in and manage the setup for 
you ? if you let me know where you are based and what setup you have, I'd be 
happy to trot along with a quote /plug

 What i feel is ok, you take support from Redhat/SUSE but at the same 
 time, a person should't loose his right to discuss such problems in 
 public forums unless it is meant only for FOSS.

You will actually find that Gora's initial response was in your real interest - 
mailing lists are not a real substitute for a support contract - even when you 
might sometimes get a faster response here ( hey, IRC will beat mailing lists 
hands down on speed of response ) - but when you have a supported platform, 
your 
first call should always be to the people supporting it. Not only is it their 
responsibility, they will ( or should ) have a process-to-resolution 
recommendation / execution plan. Depending on the situation, not adhering to 
that p-2-r plan will invalidate your support even.

btw, if you really are having so many issues with your support providers and 
having to live off the handholding and spoonfeeding in the lists, why bother 
paying redhat / suse / mandriva at all ? and go the CentOS route - You can 
bring 
in local talent and feed the open source ecosystem a lot better.

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Re: [ilugd] Fedora 7 release

2007-05-29 Thread Karanbir Singh
Parveen Verma wrote:
 Hi 

   Is any one palnning to download Fedora 7


Lets hope somone does, otherwise it would be an awefull lot of effort for 
nothing. :)

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Re: [ilugd] Monitoring database (MySQL) in Nagios)

2007-05-24 Thread Karanbir Singh
Lukram Debendro wrote:
 Hi Guys,
 
 Can anyone of you advice me, how to configured the monitoring the database
 of MySQL in Negios.

did the mysql nagios plugin not work ?

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Re: [ilugd] Microsoft says open source violates 235 patents

2007-05-14 Thread Karanbir Singh
Lokesh Bhog wrote:
 Microsoft claims that free and open-source software violates more than 230 of 
 its patents, according to a magazine report published Sunday. 
 In an interview with Fortune, Microsoft top lawyer Brad Smith alleges that 
 the Linux kernel violates 42 Microsoft patents, while its user interface and 
 other design elements infringe on a further 65. OpenOffice.org is accused of 
 infringing 45, along with 83 more in other free and open-source programs, 
 according to Fortune. 
 More info at http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-6183437.html
 

This isnt really anything important - its the usual banter that has been 
carrying on for a long time. Nothing really specific to worry about there.

- KB

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Re: [ilugd] Microsoft says open source violates 235 patents

2007-05-14 Thread Karanbir Singh
Lokesh Bhog wrote:
 Microsoft claims that free and open-source software violates more than 230 of 
 its patents, according to a magazine report published Sunday. 
 In an interview with Fortune, Microsoft top lawyer Brad Smith alleges that 
 the Linux kernel violates 42 Microsoft patents, while its user interface and 
 other design elements infringe on a further 65. OpenOffice.org is accused of 
 infringing 45, along with 83 more in other free and open-source programs, 
 according to Fortune. 
 More info at http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-6183437.html
 

There is some commentary at groklaw that talk about this, well worth a followup 
read to the Fortune article. but i recommend you read the Fortune article first.

here is the link to the followup 
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070513234519615

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Re: [ilugd] problem with login...RHEL3

2007-04-17 Thread Karanbir Singh
gopal krishna wrote:
 No . we are not using LDAP/NIS/NIS+ for login. 
 After  enter the password no activity is taking place ,
 
 
 All my commands like  ' grep , which , locate , runlevel ,passwd, etc ' are 
 working in single user mode but we are not able to login in Runlevel 3 and 5.
 
as a starting point, login in single user mode - run 'setup' and check 
your auth settings. there is a good chance that something that is broken.


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[ilugd] [commercial]

2007-04-10 Thread Karanbir Singh
Hi,

We ( DSource Plc )  are looking to hire 3 ( three ) sysadmins in India. 
I am going to try and cover the details, briefly - feel free to send 
questions my way; either onlist or offlist. Also, if you know someone 
who might be interested,feel free to forward this email to them.

Job Spec:

While the job is primarily system admin and network management, there is 
a fair bit of 'script coding' that is also required.

Required:

The Indian operation is just starting off, so initial work will require 
a fair bit of remote 'pairing'. We are also going to be spending a few 
months in India onsite at a client, so expect to be thrown right into 
the firezone.

Technologies that should not be strange to you : Linux ( we are a 100% 
CentOS / RHEL shop ), Xen, selinux, puppet ( and/or cfengine ), isp 
grade networks ( routing, packet monitoring and performance testing ), 
high performance database's, high density storage, large data volume 
handling.

You *must* be able to write scripted code in ruby. Python and php are 
also handy to know - but not required - since lots of our legacy stuff 
is done in python and php ( dont ask, the php stuff was before my time 
... ). We dont really care about what degree you have. we also dont care 
if you got 60% or 90% in your exams or what certificates you carry along 
with you. But, you need to be able to communicate in English, must have 
atleast a few years of working in a related environment. Common sense 
and an ability to rationally think are, however, critical! General 
sysadmin skills are essential ( we will test you on these ). People with 
a well thumbed copy of 'unix power tools' should definitely apply!

All assignments are permanent, full time and come with the govt 
requirements for benefits etc.

Location:

We are looking for people based in Pune, Delhi and Chennai as a base. 
However, for people based in Delhi and Chennai there will be a frequent 
( not exceeding 4 working days / month ) requirement to travel to Pune.

Type of Employer:

The Company is a infrastructure management consulting service, where we 
offer systems and network services to clients. We have 27 people working 
full time and 8 people part-time in the UK. And a further 6 people in 
Australia. Agile and XP practises are a cornerstone of the management 
style ( in that there is really no management, the entire organisation 
tree is very flat ).

Salary and Benefits:

You get paid pretax's Rs.80,000/- a month. We expect you to work 38 hrs 
per week. We also only work half-days on Wednesdays. There maybe a 
requirement to work weekends, but only after suitable advance notice ( 
mostly to handle infrastructure outage that cant happen during the work 
week ). There is a 6 months trial run period, wherein you get to see 
what we do and if you want to work with us, and we get to see if we want 
you working with us.

Interview process:

1. Send me a CV.
2. We call you for a quick chat on the phone. ( 20 min ).
3. Have a longer  ( 3 hrs estimate ) sysadmin 'pair' session.
4. Fix a time and have a longer ( 1 hr ) developer 'pair' session.
5. People get hired. ( 1st week of June 2007 )

Regards,

- KB

[1] - Agencies and head hunters are not welcome to reply to me, we dont 
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Re: [ilugd] Own Linux Distro

2007-04-04 Thread Karanbir Singh
Soi, Dhruv wrote:
 It's not going to be a publicly available distribution so nothing to panic
 about distribution flood. It would be for the sake of our internal project.
 And Indeed, I would also like to work on Debian derivative. I hope this
 answers your question well.
 
 Any other advice on achieving it with lesser whys and whats involved?
 


Take a look at this : https://hosted.fedoraproject.org/projects/pungi
you can get the base Fedora tree from any of their mirrors.

Also, i think the whole intensity of  debians' got the largest package 
base is much diminished now, Fedora has a fairly large rpm base as 
well. Not quite the size of debian/gentoo as yet, and prolly will never 
be, but its still got most of the things that people really want.

Can you refrain from top posting ?


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Re: [ilugd] How to uninstall httpd

2007-03-28 Thread Karanbir Singh
abhishek jain wrote:
 Hi friends,
 I have a default install of httpd on RHEL 4.x AS and i want to uninstall
 it(will be installing with modperl), i need to that without the use of
 yum/apt-get .
 Similarly i want to uninstall mysqld etc also.
 
 Any pointers on how to uninstall standard servers.Do i need to do rpm -e or
 something similar.

up2date does not have a remove option, you need to login to rhn and 
remove /manage the machine from there.

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Re: [ilugd] RHEL upgrade

2007-03-15 Thread Karanbir Singh
Hi Yashpal,

Yashpal Nagar wrote:
 Probably that is why i did't send it to Redhat List. I don't want to 
 understand here what Redhat support and what does't and what is entitlement.

You do need to know that if you ever want to talk to them later on and 
ask for help / support on issues. So talk to them anyway.

 What i want to understand is since we are moving the arch 32 bit OS to 
 64 bit and also crossing the RHEL AS to ES, what will happen to glibc 
 and other libraries, will redhat installation overwrite them with 64 bit 
 or will keep 32bit and also install 64bit libararies.
 Will there be any issue such as library conflict ?

The main diff in ES and AS is in what RH will support you with on the 
machine, and the number of cores you can really use within that 
entitlement. It does not really have any difference in the code and 
binaries themselves.

Secondly, hade you decide how you are going to do the upgrade itself ? I 
would recommend you setup a vmware hosted environ ( not Xen ) and rsync 
the present OS root into there, and play around - work with options, 
there are quite a few ways of making this move - and depending on how 
critical this is, or how much of time you are ready to spend with it - 
doing a trial run inside a virtual machine would we well worth it.

What ever you do, DO make backups and DO create a VM image of the 
present machine!

now, to your question - EL4 has a direct upgrade path from EL3 - and on 
the x86_64 platform. So all your 32bit'ness should work fine under EL4 
since it contains all the major compat-foo stuff needed. Also, the 
x86_64 EL4 is multilib right through, end to end. While there maybe 
things that dont run, the systemspace is well split, so adding fluff to 
achieve the goal is mostly trivial ( with user $clue, you've been active 
on this sort of issues for a while, so my guess is you have that ).

Remember, once you move, and unless you disable selinux from the first 
stage ( pre-install, during install and post install ) your ext3 
filesystem, once migrated, will no longer be usable on EL3 - so its a 
way one street. Some people have documented reverse path as well, I've 
not tried it and this is significant enough an issue to mention here.

 I have spoken to redhat help desk which as usual first difficult to 
 understand what is the question and recommended me a fresh format.

If you can, thats not a unwise suggestion. You really should not be 
thinking of doing a live migration anyway, use the installer to move you 
rather than userland package manager.

HTH, let us know how you get along.

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Re: [ilugd] Custom kernel compilation on Fedora Core 6

2007-03-14 Thread Karanbir Singh
Mahesh T. Pai wrote:
 
 1. Read the Kernel-HOWTO. ;-)
 2. copy /boot/config-working-kernel-version to /usr/src/linux/
 3. Re-read the Kernel-HOWTO
 4. Say `make oldconfig' - this should give you a bloated, but working
kernel. Answer the questions on the command line.
 5. Compile the kernel.
 
 Chances of success are more. Once you get hold of the process, start
 removing the unnecessary parts.
 

Mahesh, while this most likely works in some places, I'd recommend you 
stick with the packaging and system management options that your distro 
was built for. in this case, its fedora so I recommend the op really 
uses the right tool to build the kernel.

something like : rpmbuild --rebuild kernel source rpm

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Re: [ilugd] Custom kernel compilation on Fedora Core 6

2007-03-14 Thread Karanbir Singh
( I am not sure how your answer related to the Karthik's question since 
you can build all kernel.org release kernels as rpms, but here goes.. )

Shakthi Kannan wrote:
 It depends on what the user wants the kernel for. If the user wants to
 do device driver/kernel development, the developers insist to use
 stock kernels from kernel.org, not the distro kernels. The distro
 kernels are heavily patched by the distro kernel maintainers.

This is usually[1] not true with Rawhide since so much of kernel 
upstream is actually using it themselves. Not only kernel, a very large 
number of upstream work on the Linux platform is based on and around 
rawhide. You will also find that patches are regularly committed against 
older branches even at kernel.org

I am presently working on a 2.6.9 patch for ext4 that i hope to push 
upstream, since its likely to be of use to a lot of people. And I 
regularly sync Xen's 2.6.x patchset to 2.6.9. IF all development for 
everything only happened in Trunk/Head - things are going to get rather 
bleak for linux outside academic and developer communities.

 Patches/enhancements to the kernel are done against stock kernels, and
 may not apply cleanly to distro kernels.

Yes, but take that with a pinch of sald since this changes a lot - eg, a 
lot of enterprise grade h/w vendors ship drivers specific to a kabi used 
with the release, to avoid needing a ko rebuild every time the kernel 
updates. Some of these people ( 3ware and Areca are famous for this ) 
wont support your system running a kernel.org kernel at all.

On the other hand, a lot of functionality is built against a requirement 
( think ydl doing the ps3 stuff in linux ), and that development too 
happens against a static target then merged up later ( I am not sure if 
all the boot stuff even made it upstream as yet.. )

And if you just need to enable options in the kernel tree already 
running, nothing is easier than doing it via a manageable package route, 
makes maintaining it really easy.

anyway, i think this started out as a how-to-rebuild a kernel, and i 
still think if you are using Fedora, use the rawhide kernel. Or if you 
really cant wait 48 hrs or so, use the spec there to build a kernel.org 
image if you like.

- KB

[1] A lot of people working on the kernel actually prefer a semi stable 
kernel since that allows them to focus on what they are doing and the 
part of the source tree they are working with while keep an eye on 
changes that might affect them, they really dont want the daily patch 
grind stamping on their system regularly, or till merge anyway.

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Re: [ilugd] user quota on /var/spool/mail

2007-03-13 Thread Karanbir Singh
Siva Prasad wrote:
   
 Hi finz,
 
 I need to implement quota on /var/spool/mail directory, to restrict the users 
 from mail quota access. 
 Please suggest me with the best possible way to do that. I have installed OS 
 with auto partitions. 
 
 OS:   Centos 4.4
 Mail service  :   Postfix
 
 Please help me. 

postfix is the mta, are you serving this mail to usrs via dovevot or 
cyrus  ?

Cyrus has builtin quota handling that works a lot better than filesystem 
   limits, also it lets you manage that using a sane(er?) interface.


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Re: [ilugd] user quota on /var/spool/mail

2007-03-13 Thread Karanbir Singh
Siva Prasad wrote:
 Hi,
 I am using dovevot.

Take a look at this  : http://wiki.dovecot.org/Quota

 
 Thaks for your intrest and helping.. in advance
 

But I prefer Cyrus, it is - so far - a much better imap /pop3 server 
than dovecot and scales a lot better as well.

So, depending on what you are doing  it might be worth looking at cyrus 
as well.

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Re: [ilugd] Custom kernel compilation on Fedora Core 6

2007-03-13 Thread Karanbir Singh
Karthik Ramgopal wrote:
 Hi,
 I am trying to compile 2.6.20 kernel on Fedora Core 6, 

if you just need a newer kernel, try rawhide, that has pretty much the 
latest stuff released and built.

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Re: [ilugd] the closed development of the open source indian distro

2007-03-10 Thread Karanbir Singh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 10:24:12 am 03/10/07 Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [...]
 Can BOSS derivatives be created ? Will the source code be made
 available online or need I ask for it ? How can I (re)use BOSS for a
 custom spin ?
 [...]
 
 Is it even an option *not* to make source code for packages in BOSS
 available? I thought that BOSS was derived from Debian, contains many
 GPL packages, and is publicly distributed, ergo, the source code has
 to be made available. I have been meaning to test this by writing to
 the address on the BOSS CDs. Maybe I should do so now.
 

Gora,

I, for one, would welcome this move - please do go ahead and write to 
them asking for the sources. I can see that there is a public svn on 
their website - but with nothing in it. And they dont seem to make 
sources available to download along with the binaries either.

- KB

[1]: dropping CC for people known to watch the iliud list.

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Re: [ilugd] the closed development of the open source indian distro

2007-03-09 Thread Karanbir Singh
Tushar Abraham Mathew wrote:
 Dear Mr. Singh,
 we would like to make some clarifications on what you
 pointed out. BOSS is not intended to be distibuted behind closed doors.
 Though it was intended mainly for the Government and Educational
 domains, it has already been distributed free of charge to a number of
 colleges and other institutions. 
 
 If you think you could contribute in some way to BOSS, please let us
 know what your strengths are. You could add your enhancements to BOSS
 and if found worthwhile we could always bundle them in our next version.
 
 Regards,
  Tushar Abraham Mathew
  IOSN South Asia Team
  http://www.iosn.net/
  

Hi Tushar,

you missed the main point of my email, I didnt ask any questions about 
how and where BOSS should be distributed or used - I raised questions on 
the way its being developed behind closed doors. You didnt address that 
issue at all.

Also, its absurd to expect someone to try and work with the development 
cycle if none of it is public. I dont know what you are working with and 
what the next goals and targets for BOSS are - how can you expect me to 
want to join the effort ?

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Re: [ilugd] Disallowing users to Change Directory above their home - VSFTP

2007-03-07 Thread Karanbir Singh
Anand Kapoor wrote:
 Ok,
 
 this one might come upon as a stupid question, I am staring at this
 vsftpd.conf and i want to prohibit users from cd above their home
 directory. (They should be able to CD into their homes, but no where
 else). I am sure there was a config setting for this but for the life
 of me i can't seem to remember. Google isn't helping much because i am
 probably not framing my query properly.) ..
 
 Any suggestions?

look at the chroot users options in vsftpd.conf - you can either make 
this the rule or the exception ( so all users are chroot'ed by default )

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[ilugd] the closed development of the open source indian distro

2007-03-07 Thread Karanbir Singh
guys,

While I am sure there are a million other places where this issue might 
be raised, this forum seems to be just as good as any to moan about 
BOSS-nrsfoss stuff.

Does anyone know why the open source distro that the c-dac guys are 
putting together is shut down behind such closed doors ? They seem to 
have no functional mailing list, the irc channel gets almost zero 
traffic and there is no timeline / feature scope docs or anything of 
that nature online at all. So who is doing what / when / why / and how 
can others get involved and help ?

Is it a case of a few people at cdac just being paid to work on whatever 
they like, and do so with whatever communications means they prefer ( I 
bet since they are single location based, most comms is face to face and 
on classic desi style - on paper )

Maybe someone just needs to go knock on their door and tell them how 
this sort of a thing should be done ? Or then just wrap up the open 
source side of things, and say its an internal cdac project and everyone 
else can just go get lost.

/vent

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Re: [ilugd] Loading Linux on X series ThinkPad

2007-03-02 Thread Karanbir Singh
Sudev Barar wrote:
 I am likely to get a IBM X series thinkpad laptop. These laptop's do
 not have built in cdrom drives but my assumption is that I should be
 able to connect a USB CDROM drive and load O/S from there as most of
 th BIOS now allow booting off USB drives.
 Anyone who can confirm this?
 

network boot should be an option... if not, depending on what its 
running, you can use the existing bootloader to boot into an installer.

also, btw what X series is it ? :) those are good laptops...


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Re: [ilugd] FC6 rpm command problem

2007-03-01 Thread Karanbir Singh
Vaibhav Singh wrote:
 hello members,
 i have a few questons to ask.
 
 1. i have recently installed fc6 on my friends system.the problem arises
 when i m trying to add repositries or use any other rpm command containing a
 URL.
 i can download stuff using wget so i dont think the problem is with the
 terminal using a proxy connection.
  rpm -ivh
 http://ftp.freshrpms.net/pub/freshrpms/fedora/linux/6/freshrpms-release/freshrpms-release-1.1-1.fc.noarch.rpm
 
   Retrieving
 http://ftp.freshrpms.net/pub/freshrpms/fedora/linux/6/freshrpms-release/freshrpms-release-1.1-1.fc.noarch.rpm
   error: skipping
 http://ftp.freshrpms.net/pub/freshrpms/fedora/linux/6/freshrpms-release/freshrpms-release-1.1-1.fc.noarch.rpm-
 transfer failed - Unknown or unexpected error
   warning: _url_cache[0] 0x8c7f340 nrefs(1284972991) != 1 ( )

think I know why this is happening...

 
 2. when i m trying to install any package either by using add remove
 software or yum,it gives a message unable to resolve dependencies and lists
 all the depdencies
 how can make these dependecies install automatically as in
 SYNAPTIC(UBUNTU)

what problems do you get ? can you do the yum install and past the 
output here into an email ?

 
 3. could you please suggest which repositries are good for fc6?
livna,freshrpms etc..

fedora-extras, already included with the install has a lot of packages 
in there, freshrpms has a few more. That should really give you 
everything you need. If you are going to use livna and/or atrpms - do it 
with an includepkg= line in the .repo file so you can better manage the 
situation.

all this is going to change, for the good, soon... but for now thats the 
best you can do.


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Re: [ilugd] deb vs. rpm

2007-03-01 Thread Karanbir Singh
Hi Manoj,

I am not sure what brought about this comparison so will refrain 
from being overly verbose..

Manoj Srivastava wrote:
 Hi,
 
 It might be instructive to compare package file formats on a
  purely technical level: http://kitenet.net/~joey/pkg-comp/
  This is a fairly authoritative document, and well worth understanding.

good read indeed.

 
 Here follows commentary on the major points of difference oj
  just the rpm and deb format (please read the URL for details
  regarding other package formats).
 
  1) Data unpack-able by standard tools, meta-data accessible by
 standard tools, and ability to create a .deb with standard (non
 distribution specific) tools: .debs are just ar archives of
 tar-balls, and can be unpackaged, inspected, and created using cp,
 chmod, ar and tar.  rpm's need a special tool.  Now, why is this
 important at all?  Well, think of a classified environment, where
 you do not want to rely on the packaged tool to help you with
 forensics; but you have a trusted solaris box.

rpm's are cpio achieves, its easy to yank the payload out ( but yes, 
much of the metadata and header-non-payload is lost ).

 
  2) Package relationships: The .deb format has a more nuanced set of
 relationships, incorporating recommendations and suggested
 packages, and orders packages by priority as well as group.

hinting by way of suggests and enhances are available in rpm, just not 
widely used. PLD ( iirc ) were the first guys to start deploying enmass 
such functionality.

 Personally, I am of the opinion that file dependencies are a mixed
 bag; they complicate the package dependency graph with edges that
 are different from a package dependency; added to the less
 nuanced dependency and priority information, they make the
 installation ordering of rpm's far less sophisticated.

while not directly related to your statement ... rpm does have the 
ability to ( if the user so wants, I've not seen this deployed in a 
package management system as yet ) include perl / python / ruby deps 
directly as well. So if a rpm package wants a certain perl-module to 
exist, rpm can check for the existence of that perl-module even if its 
not mentioned in the package metadata manifest for the machine.

so given that pretty much every language devloper ( and his dog ) are 
trying to come up with means of sub-language-functionality-delivery ( 
php-pear, perl-cpan, ruby-gem etc etc ), a smart way to handle some part 
of this and overlap this info (?) with the system package metadata 
manifest is going to be important issue to work on, for any packaging 
system.

 order, and rolling back failed installation. rpm does
 installations on a best effort basis, and thus failures at
 critical stages leave the system in an untenable state.

while this is true, its important to note that a proper package 
management / repo management system on top of rpm like yum or smartpm or 
apt-rpm should only hand down package sets in a single transaction. If 
that happens, rpm wont break anything - problems are reported quite loud 
and clear, except for when there is a deploop that needs a break ( when 
the best effort basis kicks in, and package ordering for with the 
deploop becomes hard ).

  4) Debian packages may run binaries at install and un-install times.
 I am not sure if this is a major plus.

is this like the %pre , %post, %preun and %postun scripts in a rpm ?


  6) New sections in the package format: .debs were designed to be
 extensible, and whole new sections can be added to the package by
 adding yet another tar-ball or the ar archive.  Some of the future
 additions being planned are detached signatures by various keys;
 developers key, build daemon maintainer key, archive maintainers
 key, release manager key, mirror master key, -- in a new section
 of the package file.  So, new data sections, compiled binaries
 for more than one sub-arch, or 32 and 64 bit binaries -- they can
 be added easily to a new section, and dpkg be told how to deal
 with the new sections by inspecting the .deb format version.
 
 rpm's can't as easily cope with unseen new requirements.

I dont quite understand what this implies ( perhaps a use-case-scenario 
will make it easier to parse ). The ability to add user defined metadata 
into a rpm header-not-payload is under development - I've seen it being 
used, but mostly off -devel trees, not in any released rpm used in a distro.

btw, I also rate the ability of rpms to handle multilib and arch 
specific packages to be a big plus.

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Re: [ilugd] Fwd: Linux in Gov't

2007-02-07 Thread Karanbir Singh
This is more of a 'for info' thing than any help / answer to the 
questions raised earlier...


 Just heard that the ministry of information technology has installed
  its version of the Linux operating system (BOSS) on around 40
  computers used by its senior/middle-level officials in the ministry.

does anyone have a URL for details on this 'BOSS' stuff ?

 
 This, the government is saying, is the first such effort in a central
 ministry, though states such as Kerala and Tamil Nadu have adopted
  Linux in different ways.
 
 The officers in MIT are test-driving BOSS so that they can suggest
  changes that will help fine tune the real development effort going
  on at CDAC.

Also, does anyone have info on exactly what is the real development 
going on at CDAC ?


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Re: [ilugd] desktop specifications

2007-02-01 Thread Karanbir Singh
Vikas Rawal wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 12:21:16PM +0530, Sudev Barar wrote:
 On 01/02/07, Vikas Rawal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Does anyone at ilugd have an experience of installing ubuntu
 edgy/dapper on a machine with core2duo? My brother, a recent convert
 to linux, has bought a new machine and was trying to install
 it. Apparently the live CD does not load fully. Ubuntu fora have
 Try with Knoppix and report result.
 
 it is not going to be easy. i will have to snail mail a knoppix cd to
 him and get him to test it. can get it done only after the 10th.
 
 will do it anyhow.

you can always try Fedora :)

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Re: [ilugd] The MS trojan horse in Linux Asia 2007

2007-02-01 Thread Karanbir Singh
Raj Mathur wrote:
 On Thursday 01 February 2007 14:34, Vishnu Gopal wrote:
 [snip]
 Anyways, feel free to take this off-list/IRC, don't want this to
 degrade to a Is Microsoft good/evil conversation.
 
 I find the discussion quite interesting, and would like to keep it on 
 the list itself.  Anyone else?
 

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Re: [ilugd] [Commercial]IT Admins' Day-out @ LinuxAsia 07 (2nd Feb 07)

2007-01-23 Thread Karanbir Singh
Hi Niraj,

Niraj Sahay wrote:
 Dear friends and colleagues,
 
 You know this better than anybody else--Implementing IT infrastructure 
 is both an art and a science. And, in the Linux/Open Source world, where 
 you have umpteen options for any given challenge, the more you master 
 this combination of art and science, the more rewarding it gets for you.

dude, why dont you go into a quiet corner, collect your thoughts, make 
up your mind - get all your ideas and meditations together. Make a list, 
then come back to the computer - sit down and calmly send *one* email 
with *all* the things you want to say in it.

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Re: [ilugd] linux machine as router

2007-01-19 Thread Karanbir Singh
S. K. Goel wrote:
 
 You add following commands in /etc/rc.d/rc.local
 echo 1  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
 /sbin/iptables -F FORWARD
 /sbin/iptables -F INPUT
 /sbin/iptables -F OUTPUT
 /sbin/iptables -P INPUT  ACCEPT
 /sbin/iptables -P OUTPUT  ACCEPT
 /sbin/iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT
 /sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s Local-IP -j SNAT --to  Public-IP
 
 I am using linux as a router in more than 250 locations.
 

errr.. dont you think you're being a bit generous with those settings ? 
are you really really sure you dont want any policy whatsoever for any 
chain's

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Re: [ilugd] [Commercial]LinuxAsia 2007 - Call for Speakers

2007-01-15 Thread Karanbir Singh
Niraj Sahay wrote:
 The three-day event has been divided into following broad 
 technology-verticals:
 First day (31st Jan 07): Trends and innovations in overall open source 
 technologies and desktop technologies
 Second day (1st Jan 07): Technology trends and innovations w.r.t. 
 software development and databases
 Third day (2nd Jan 07): Technology trends and innovations w.r.t. tools 
 for IT implementation and network management

thinking to myself

damn! I missed the second and third day already :(

ah! but I might still make it for the first day! Maybe time travel 
gizmos will be provided at the event /thinking to myself


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Re: [ilugd] 'Hall of Shame' Blasts Websites, etc...

2007-01-04 Thread Karanbir Singh
Frederick Noronha wrote:
 http://news.google.com/news?hl=enned=usie=UTF-8ncl=1112401020filter=0
 

while this is a great effort, the interesting thing will be to see if 
this 'hall of shame' has actually had a fallout. Has anyone listed on 
this 'HoS?' actually done something to get themselves removed ? or is it 
a case of we make the noise, and noone's listening.

Just playing the Devil's advocate here for a bit.

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Re: [ilugd] opening *.mht files

2006-12-28 Thread Karanbir Singh
Anant Narayanan wrote:
 opening a file has little to do with the extension - browser. Its more 
 to do with how the browser identifies its mime time and allocates an 
 handler process. So look for issues that might have a role to play in 
 wrong mime type reporting.

 also, when the fsck did microsoft fork html ?
 
 *.mht are integrated HTML files; and contain everything needed to 
 display a particular page in its entirety. So if a HTML has an image and 
 is saved as MHT; the image is part of that single file too.
 

so its not really just a microsoft's version of html, as was originally 
implied..

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Re: [ilugd] opening *.mht files

2006-12-27 Thread Karanbir Singh
Vaibhav Singh wrote:
 hello everyone,
 
 Is there any plugin in mozilla firefox or any other web browser that can be
 used to open mht (Microsoft HTML) files.
 I cant open these files on my Ubuntu desktop, all I get is the HTML dump.
 

opening a file has little to do with the extension - browser. Its more 
to do with how the browser identifies its mime time and allocates an 
handler process. So look for issues that might have a role to play in 
wrong mime type reporting.

also, when the fsck did microsoft fork html ?

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Re: [ilugd] SQLYog Client for MySQL

2006-12-17 Thread Karanbir Singh
Anupam Jain wrote:
 Another FYI post from me :)
 
 An Open Source MySQL Client made by an Indian company -
 
 http://webyog.com/en/
 
 Claims to be The most popular MySQL GUI for the last 4 year.
 


would be good if it actually worked on Linux...


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Re: [ilugd] FC6 review please ..............

2006-12-15 Thread Karanbir Singh
Amit Sharma wrote:
  My servers are still running on FC3 (from past 2 years) so is FC6 worth a 
 change?
  

you do know that FC3 has been deprecated a *long* time back and running 
Fedora - with its very short real shelf life, and very high churn on 
updates -  for  a Server is usually a bad idea anyway.


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Re: [ilugd] French consumer group files complaints against HP

2006-12-15 Thread Karanbir Singh
Sudev Barar wrote:
 Would this work here?
 http://www.itworld.com/Comp/1214/061215frenchhp/
 
 Every time we buy a laptop (and I am again going to buy one soon) I
 find that most of the offerings comes with WIndows bundled and we also
 end up paying for something we do not want.

not sure about how this works in India ( shame on me ! ) but here in the 
UK, the MS club/ bsa managed to get a fairly potent legal regime in 
place where requires all h/w vendors to ship an assembled machine _with_ 
an OS.

FreeDos is an OS, and Dell + HP are in most cases, quite happy to ship 
most server / custom workstation equipment with FreeDOS. Laptops, since 
they are more of a commodity, tend to not have that option though.

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Re: [ilugd] Suggestions for spam filtering wanted

2006-12-13 Thread Karanbir Singh
Ankur Rohatgi wrote:
 Hi all,
 I wanted spam filtering suggestions for a friend who's server is running
 qmail and spamassasin. They are also using spamhaus for RBL checks. This
 is still leading to a lot of junk email and i wanted to know what are
 you all using to tackle spam. He would be interested in a free or paid
 solution that can filter as much as possible.

Have you considered grey listing ? That will drop anywhere from between 
85 - 88 % of spam at this time( numbers from an active metric done on a 
moderately busy domain a few weeks back) . The number will keep reducing 
over the next few years, but expect it to stay  70% for atleast another 
year +


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Re: [ilugd] Looking for Linux Performance Benchmarks

2006-11-10 Thread Karanbir Singh
Anand Shankar wrote:
 Looking for Linux Performance Benchmarks compared to other UNIXes and
 MS Windows, for mission critical applications. Any pointers to
 resources /publications /links? Any studies by European Union, NASA,
 World Bank, Gartner etc?
 

what do you need these numbers for ?

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Re: [ilugd] Our IP getting listed in cbl again and again

2006-11-09 Thread Karanbir Singh
Sangeeta Joneja wrote:
 On 11/9/06, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 09-Nov-06, at 10:29 AM, Sangeeta Joneja wrote:

 We are running Ubuntu 5.10 / Kolab 2.0 on our mail server whose IP
 which ISP? static IP or dynamic IP?


 It's static IP.
 
 
 We have a broad band connection (DSL) from Airtel with static IP. On router
 we have opened the ports 993 (IMAP/SSL), 995 (POP3/SSL), 465 (SMTP/SSL). I
 am hereby giving you the configuration parameters for postfix. Output of
 postconf -n
 
 alias_database = hash:/kolab/etc/postfix/aliases
 alias_maps = hash:/kolab/etc/postfix/aliases
 broken_sasl_auth_clients = yes
 canonical_maps = hash:/kolab/etc/postfix/canonical
 command_directory = /kolab/sbin
 config_directory = /kolab/etc/postfix
 content_filter = smtp-amavis:[127.0.0.1]:10024
 daemon_directory = /kolab/libexec/postfix
 default_privs = kolab-n
 local_recipient_maps = $virtual_maps
 mail_owner = kolab
 mailbox_transport = kolabmailboxfilter
 masquerade_domains = $mydomain
 masquerade_exceptions = root
 message_size_limit = 20971520
 mydestination = $mydomain example.com example1.com
 mydomain = example.com
 myhostname = example.com
 mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8 our local network(x.0.0.0)/8
 myorigin = $mydomain
 queue_directory = /kolab/var/postfix
 recipient_delimiter = +
 relay_domains =
 relayhost =
 relocated_maps = hash:/kolab/etc/postfix/relocated
 setgid_group = kolab-r
 smtpd_recipient_restrictions =
 permit_mynetworks,permit_sasl_authenticated,reject_unauth_destination,
 reject_unlisted_recipient, check_policy_service
 unix:private/kolabpolicy,reject_rbl_client
 sbl-xbl.spamhaus.orgreject_rbl_client
 spamcop.net
 smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes
 smtpd_sasl_local_domain =
 smtpd_sasl_security_options = noanonymous
 smtpd_sender_restrictions = check_sender_access
 hash:/kolab/etc/postfix/restricted_senders
 smtpd_starttls_timeout = 300s
 smtpd_timeout = 300s
 smtpd_tls_auth_only = yes
 smtpd_tls_cert_file = /kolab/etc/kolab/cert.pem
 smtpd_tls_key_file = /kolab/etc/kolab/key.pem
 smtpd_tls_received_header = no
 smtpd_tls_session_cache_timeout = 3600s
 smtpd_use_tls = yes
 tls_random_source = dev:/dev/urandom
 transport_maps = hash:/kolab/etc/postfix/transport, ldap:ldaptransport
 
 

rantCBL sux, its a complete and total waste of time and people's 
resources. Someone should walk over and give them a solid whack on their 
head!/rant

Is your machine claiming to be something that it isnt ? eg. if you say 
that you are 'example.com' does example.com resolve back to your IP ? ( 
well, MX for example.com that is ). Even claiming to be 
localhost.localdomain wont work. To see what you are calling yourself, 
telnet yourpublic IP 25, that should give you a good idea.

Easiest workaround, just disable the greeter from showing any domain 
name. Thats what the spammers do, and it effectively renders cbl 
useless. The other thing is to just firewall off the cbl netblock, so 
they can never check your :25 at all.

further rantWhlie you are out whacking the CBL guys, make sure you get 
a good whack at all the idiots who actually use CBL to score against 
/further rant

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Re: [ilugd] [Gllug] NICs on RHEL 4.0

2006-11-08 Thread Karanbir Singh
Yashpal Nagar wrote:
 Hi All,
 I have a Redhat Enterprise linux 4.0 with two NICs on a DL320, 32 bit 
 arch HP server.
 Problem is every reboot the interface eth0 flips over to the other 
 physical interface and then i have to physically  move the cable to 
 other interface.
 
 I get the following on console.
 Nov  8 12:29:40 servername ifup: Device eth0 has different MAC address 
 than expected, ignoring.
 
 What i have tried:
 1. By specifying the HWADDR keyword in ifcfg-eth0 but no luck.
 2. i have also tried putting BOOTPROTO=none and placing the 
 /sbin/ifconfig eth0 hw ether 00:0B:CD:4E:31:C1 in /etc/rc.d/rc/local
 and then restart the network interface as told at
 
 http://www.redhat.com/archives/redhat-list/2003-April/msg02721.html
 http://whoozoo.co.uk/mac-spoof-linux.htm but still same problem.
 
 The both NIC is NetXtreme BCM5702X Gigabit Ethernet.
 
 Any pointer/hack would be highly appreciated.

you can get the redhat support contact details from their website at 
http://www.redhat.com/ :)

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Re: [ilugd] linux clustering

2006-10-20 Thread Karanbir Singh
Raj Shekhar wrote:
 I am not suppose to change the architecture here by puting all read to 
 one server and write to other, i am looking a two node active/passive 
 cluster for linux.
 
 By active/passive I assume you mean hot/cold i.e. only one of the 
 machines will be active at any time and the application will connect to 
 just one machine ? If that is the case, you can set up replication and 
 have the slave as standby. When master fails, take the master offline 
 and you point your application to use the slave instead of the master. 
 Repair the master and then point your application back to the master 
 instead of the slave.

yes, but using a proper clustering or server management setup wont 
require this sort of manual app changeover stuff, and in most cases will 
mean zero downtime :)

just my 0.015p worth ..


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Re: [ilugd] How can I start LINUX

2006-10-11 Thread Karanbir Singh
Sahil Dave wrote:
 i wud rather suggest you to straight GOOGLE for all your queries..!!
 Red Hat has become amost obsolete now,  anybody using it is living 5yrs 
 back...

Sahil, You seem quite mis-informed. Redhat's linux distro's continue to 
be strong, and are actually the largest market share!

I'd be rather worried for the future of Linux if everyone at RH was to 
go walkabout.



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Re: [ilugd] Meetup 30th Oct ?

2006-09-30 Thread Karanbir Singh
Jasbir Khehra wrote:
 I am going to be in Delhi on the 30th Afternoon + Evening, and would 
 really like to meetup with some of you. Can we organise something ? I 
 know its midweek :( but I need to fly out on the 1st Nov.

 Some of you might know that I am involved with the CentOS project, and 
 should people be interested - I am happy to talk about the Project, what 
 we are doing, what some of the future development directions are etc.
  

 Hi Karan,
Any chance you will be in Chandigarh or whereabouts ? We can have a 
 similar thing over here also.
 

I am in Chandigarh the entire week from the 22th to the 28th, and I'd 
love to meetup with the lug there. ( I didnt realise there even was a 
lug operating in Chandigarh! ).

for me, the best dates are going to be the 26th or the 27th evening.


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Re: [ilugd] VoIP situation

2006-09-30 Thread Karanbir Singh
Anindya Roy wrote:
 According to the Telegraphic Act 1883 and Telegraphic Wireless Act 1935, in
 Indian, all international calls should be routed through Telecom Regulatory
 Authority of India (TRAI).  You can make IP-based calls outside the country
 but it is not legal to make calls to a local PSTN or a cellular network
 using VoIP.
 
 But of course if you want you can do a PC to PC VoIP call even inside the
 country. That's completely legal. 
 

Thanks Anindya, and everyone else on this thread. You've all helped much.


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Re: [ilugd] Meetup 30th Oct ?

2006-09-29 Thread Karanbir Singh
Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
 On 29-Sep-06, at 6:07 AM, Karanbir Singh wrote:
 
 I am going to be in Delhi on the 30th Afternoon + Evening, and would
 really like to meetup with some of you. Can we organise something ? I
 know its midweek :( but I need to fly out on the 1st Nov.

 Some of you might know that I am involved with the CentOS project, and
 should people be interested - I am happy to talk about the Project,  
 what
 we are doing, what some of the future development directions are etc.
 
 cool. i will be in Delhi around then and am meeting up with some  
 ilugd folk. 

see you then!

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Re: [ilugd] VoIP situation

2006-09-29 Thread Karanbir Singh
Hakuna Matata wrote:
 aaa...
 
 so the crux is that...
 
 If you are not forwarding the calls outside to your office boundry then it
 is fine...
 
 


how about skype ? does that come under the same umbrella ? From what I 
can tell - lots of people seem to be using Skype from india!


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[ilugd] VoIP situation

2006-09-28 Thread Karanbir Singh
hi guys,

Just wondering what the state of play with VoIP is in India - is there 
any legal issue blocking people from using it ? Also, are there any VoIP 
providers in India ?

I'd love to be able to get a local (delhi / chandigarh based if possible 
) local termination. What are the chances of that happening ? If I cant 
get it from someone, and I decided to just plant an old machine with 
centos+asterisk on there, would I be on the right side of the law or 
would the bsnl/vsnl morons come sniffing around my rear end ?


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[ilugd] Meetup 30th Oct ?

2006-09-28 Thread Karanbir Singh

Hey guys,

I am going to be in Delhi on the 30th Afternoon + Evening, and would 
really like to meetup with some of you. Can we organise something ? I 
know its midweek :( but I need to fly out on the 1st Nov.

Some of you might know that I am involved with the CentOS project, and 
should people be interested - I am happy to talk about the Project, what 
we are doing, what some of the future development directions are etc.

Alternatively, if there is a more geeky crowd, maybe we can look at 
SystemTap and oprofile ( two excellent tools for system debugging and 
resource monitoring ).

but, would people like to meet up on the 30th ? Could we get a venue ?

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Re: [ilugd] hummingbird

2006-09-15 Thread Karanbir Singh
Raj Mathur wrote:
 
 Vijay Hi Rajnish, I am also intersted to reun Tally on RHEL 3.0.
 Vijay Will you tell me the procedure.
 
 I don't know Tally, but from the original poster's message it appears
 that he needs to run Tally on the Linux machine with display on the
 Winduhs box.  In the absence of an X server for Winduhs, this can be
 achieved easily using a VNC server on Linux and VNC client on Winduhs.
 
 Regards,
 

hey Raju,

perhaps NX is worth a look see, its not entirely in the open source 
realm though - but has clients that will run in lots of places, and it 
runs a lot better than vnc on slower / high latency networks.



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Re: [ilugd] Mozilla Firefox not brosing VS.net website

2006-09-12 Thread Karanbir Singh
Vijay Thakur wrote:
 I have a website made in visual studio.net.  This site is
 working very fine with Internet Explorer.  But I am not able to
 explore the site in linux browser  Mozila Firefox Windows Version)
 installed in Microst Windows XP. Let me know the problem.

whats the url to your site that does not work ?


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Re: [ilugd] [LIH] SpamAssassin options -- Razor, Pyzor, DCC, ???

2006-09-08 Thread Karanbir Singh
Raj Mathur wrote:
 Suresh == Suresh Ramasubramanian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Suresh Raj Mathur wrote:
  - Vipul's Razor - Pyzor - DCC - Any other tools - Commercial
  blacklists - Any other commercial service
 
 Suresh Chatting with a few SA developers ..
 
 Suresh 1. SURBL / URIBL
 
 I understand SURBL is automatically enabled in SA 3.x (as long as the
 networks checks are enabled).  Will push URIBL in.

uribl in sa-3.x is surbl.

I've also found MailScanner's checks to use useful, along with clamav's 
phishing test's.

 
 cbl.abuseat.org
 relays.ordb.org
 list.dsbl.org
 sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org
 dnsbl.sorbs.net
 dnsbl.njabl.org
 
 is currently in.  Haven't had too many issues with false positives, so
 I guess I can only add to this list, no need to delete.

I tend to score rbl /dnsbl's very very low - so the more the better :)

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Re: [ilugd] Installation of Red hat 9.0 on Dell OPltiplex GX620

2006-09-07 Thread Karanbir Singh
Gurpreet Sachdeva wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I am trying to install RH 9.0 on Dell Optiplex GX620 box. Its not able to
 find the drivers for the hard disk to make file system.

is there any reason you are using such an old distribution ? Consider 
something newer ? maybe CentOS 4. Its RH based, so you get the same base 
distro but has much more hardware support

 
 The hard disk used is ST3160828AS. Any input on this would be helpful.
 

that's a sata drive, you wont find support for that in such an old 
distribution. Also, drivers are for the controller cards - not the hard 
drives!

if you can tell us what controller you have, someone might be able to 
help set the machine up.

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Re: [ilugd] SpamAssassin

2006-08-23 Thread Karanbir Singh
Manish Popli wrote:
 Ritesh,
 
 
 Thanks for suggestion well we here to show proper way to each others rite
 not for this typy of reply.
 
 isn't it.

as a matter of interest - why install such an old release ? specially
one with now known security issues and bug's ?


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Re: [ilugd] FOSS in Asia Pacific [Aug 2006] * Nepal, Mongolia, CJK, Thailand, Philippines, Bhutan...

2006-08-19 Thread Karanbir Singh
Frederick Noronha (FN) wrote:
 ---
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 8888 e   88 e   88   88 88  8   http://www.iosn.net
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does anyone even read these postings ?

also, rather than having it forcefed down everyone throat this way,
would it not be a better idea to put this into a blog sort of format and
let people subscribe to that feed ? or have it on its own mailing list
and let people who want to read such, subscribe.

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Re: [ilugd] dual boot problem

2006-08-19 Thread Karanbir Singh
GINNI -gauravsparks wrote:
 hi ,
 i have the same problem but i m using DEBIAN .
 wat now ??
 

and the same fix does not work ?

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Re: [ilugd] dual boot problem

2006-08-19 Thread Karanbir Singh
Sudev Barar wrote:
 On 19/08/06, Karanbir Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 GINNI -gauravsparks wrote:
 hi ,
 i have the same problem but i m using DEBIAN .
 wat now ??

 and the same fix does not work ?

 
 I think the OP wants ready made meal served on the table with candle
 lit table settings ;-)

dont forget the Girl!

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Re: [ilugd] A Question for RH302 (RHCE)

2006-07-16 Thread Karanbir Singh
santosh dubey wrote:
 Hi All,

   Can I directly take RHCE exam on RH302 with a good preaparation? 
   On RedHat website, it shows..
   Some Linux Knowledge--RH133--RH253--RH302

   Going for three exam is very costly on personal basis. 
   If someone has done RH302, pls suggest me..
   1. Only knowledge on command line is sufficient. I am afraid of GUI  and 
 dont want to this.

no, you should know the gui tools as well, in some cases the gui tools
might not have a tui interface at all ( s-c-kickstart and s-c-packages
for example )

   2. I am using Fedora 5. I dont have RHEL4. It is not free and i cant get 
 it. Fedora 5 is sufficient or not.

no, fc5's component chain is very different from RHEL, if you cant even
afford the student license, then consider using CentOS. I know atleast a
few people who did all their training on CentOS and have done these
exams. ( remember to not leave common sense at home )

   3.RH302 is sufficient in present job scenario or I need to do some other 
 certification of RedHat.
   I am already Sun Certified System Administrator for Solaris 9 .

That depends on the type of job you are looking for - in lots of cases,
its better to get the employer to get you the course work/
certification. But, go with what works for you - there is no universal
format or requirement spec that people are filling up jobs with.

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Re: [ilugd] Music Player

2006-06-16 Thread Karanbir Singh
Silver MoonDragon wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Does anyone know of any music player which can be configured to use file 
 names 
 instead of IDv* Tags? It really irks me when most of the music players 
 display songs as Track 1 etc. just because I dont want to edit the IDv3 
 tags.
 

why not use something like easytag and replace the idv tags with 
something you would want to see, its easy to macro'ise easytag, so 2 
keystrokes will replace tags for all files in a directory etc.. take a 
look see.

Replacing the mp3 player to circumvent this issue, sounds muchly 
overkillish.

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Re: [ilugd] [Commercial] Requirement of Linux Consultant for Scanning Project

2006-06-14 Thread Karanbir Singh
S.K.Goel wrote:
 We have documents having a unique bar-code on each document, We want to
 scan these documents using some linux compatible scanner and interested
 to create files as [unique-bar-code].pdf.

if the position of the barcode is standardised, you could just copy that
section of the scan'ed image and parse it through 'barcode'. If however
the position of the barcode changes a lot, you need some image
processing foo !

- KB


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Re: [ilugd] [[Commercial]] Contract Positions at Cadence Noida

2006-06-14 Thread Karanbir Singh
satyakam goswami wrote:
 Organization : Cadence Design Systems
 Project name: Predictive methodology for testing
 Initial contract: until Mar 2007
 Scripting : Perl or  Java or  SQL or Python or Php

ho humm.. someone either has no idea as to who/what they want - or they
really dont want anyone with any scripting in mind :)

and hey, nice to see Java officially called a scripting tool. nice!

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Re: [ilugd] Why doesn't govt embrace open source?

2006-05-25 Thread Karanbir Singh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nice article by Pankaj Sharma at: 
 http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1562010.cms
 on
 Why doesn't govt embrace open source?
 
the Govt is also trying to implement a newer Audit subsystem in RHEL 4 ?

wowzer!

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Re: [ilugd] Installing audit-1.2.2, RHEL 4 AS

2006-05-22 Thread Karanbir Singh
Vikas Upadhyay wrote:
 Hi All,
 I have already run up2date to get the latest from Redhat. I want to install
 the audit-1.2.2 on Linux box (RHEL 4, x86_64, dual processor XEON ) :

exactly what are you trying to achieve ?

also, installing from source is a bad idea... specially since you are
going to create support issues for yourself w.r.t Redhat.

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Re: [ilugd] Installing audit-1.2.2, RHEL 4 AS

2006-05-22 Thread Karanbir Singh
Vikas Upadhyay wrote:
 On 5/22/06, Karanbir Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Vikas Upadhyay wrote:
 Hi All,
 I have already run up2date to get the latest from Redhat. I want to
 install
 the audit-1.2.2 on Linux box (RHEL 4, x86_64, dual processor XEON ) :
 exactly what are you trying to achieve ?
 
 
 I have audit version 1.0.14 installed on my system. I want to  use the
 latest  version of audit subsytem (http://people.redhat.com/sgrubb/audit/ )
 and for that my system doesn't have the necessary rpms installed.

ok, you are still not clear as to why you need the newer version

 
 I don't know what's the usual practice to resolve the chain of dependency,
 would appreciate any help in that direction.

the dep tree in this case is going to be interesting, rather than
building glibc down to python in order to satisfy depends - common sense
should kick in and you should just move from RHEL to Rawhide.

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Re: [ilugd] Installing audit-1.2.2, RHEL 4 AS

2006-05-22 Thread Karanbir Singh
Vikas Upadhyay wrote:
 
 I have to port EAL3 test suite (available from ltp.sourceforge.net ) meant
 for RHEL 3 to RHEL 4. In the test suite, there is a directory which tests
 the underlying audit system. Moving from RHEL 3 to RHEL 4, Redhat has
 changed the audit system. Now no more LAuS.  I have version 1.0.14 of audit
 system installed and looking at the mailing list archives of audit system, a
 lot of capabilities have been added in the newer versions.
 So, I thought of using newer version of audit system.

dont you think its a bit extreme to basically retool the entire distro
from glibc onwards in order to achieve something of this nature ? why
not find someone who knows the audit subsystems and work the issue at
that level ?

 
 Well, don't have any idea about Rawhide. Searching (Googling ) for it points
 to Fedora. Please correct me if I am wrong. The project is meant for RHEL 4
 only, so no chance of moving to Fedora/Rawhide.
 Is there any generic way of resolving dependency ?
 

rawhide is the development version of Redhat's packages - its also known
as Fedora-Development ( currently target is FC6 ) - that will have the
latest / greatest packages for most everything.

If you intend to develop something for RHEL4 - you goal should be to try
and work within the framework of whats being offered within RHEL4. There
is a reason why versions are locked basically changing a massive
number of packages ( an initial look at my end indicates 100+ ) to
satisfy depends on your package isnt going to be well received by
anyone, specially users who care about stability.


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Re: [ilugd] Whats default gateway and how to configure that in local network

2006-05-17 Thread Karanbir Singh
abhishek jain wrote:
 Dear Friends,
 I have recently setup or rather converted a Server into a VPS hosting
 machine.
 I can access the machine from the outside but cannot wget /ping anything
 from inside the VPS, i get Temporary resol error.
 I have setup /et/resolv.conf and there is no firewall running.

for a start, how did you split the physical machine into VM's ? what
technology/ app / Virtualising setup have you used ?

Are you bridging the VM's on the network or using a host emulated NAT ?



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