Re: [ilugd] Help required to setup a cron job

2013-03-16 Thread Aman Thakur
I think Shell Script would be a better optionmake a script and put on
the startup..but you can also make a C daemon for this purpose

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 Hello all,
 Can anyone plz help me create a scrropt to run a cron job

 , I have schedule fetmail in every 5 minutes. but some time my cron get
 stucked due to another running instance

 I want a script that execute in every 3 minutes and check whether fetchmail
 is running or not if running then abort it and re run.

 Thanks s

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 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:33:46 +0530
 From: Abhinav Gupta abhi...@abhinav.org
 To: Satish Kr Malanch satishmala...@gmail.com
 Cc: linux delhi ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org
 Subject: Re: [ilugd] Help required to setup a cron job
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 On 03/15/13 11:27:44 AM, Satish Kr Malanch wrote:
  Hello all,
  Can anyone plz help me create a scrropt to run a cron job
 
  , I have schedule fetmail in every 5 minutes. but some time my cron get
  stucked due to another running instance
 
  I want a script that execute in every 3 minutes and check whether
 fetchmail
  is running or not if running then abort it and re run.
 

 Try daemontools. - http://cr.yp.to/daemontools.html

 - Abhinav



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Re: [ilugd] Help required to setup a cron job

2013-03-16 Thread Anoop Sharma
Check it out: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/045

Summary: Use flock.

man -s 1 flock provides examples on usage that may suit you.



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 wrote:

 Hello all,
 Can anyone plz help me create a scrropt to run a cron job

 , I have schedule fetmail in every 5 minutes. but some time my cron get
 stucked due to another running instance

 I want a script that execute in every 3 minutes and check whether fetchmail
 is running or not if running then abort it and re run.

 Thanks s

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Re: [ilugd] Help required to setup a cron job

2013-03-15 Thread Abhinav Gupta
On 03/15/13 11:27:44 AM, Satish Kr Malanch wrote:
 Hello all,
 Can anyone plz help me create a scrropt to run a cron job
 
 , I have schedule fetmail in every 5 minutes. but some time my cron get
 stucked due to another running instance
 
 I want a script that execute in every 3 minutes and check whether fetchmail
 is running or not if running then abort it and re run.
 

Try daemontools. - http://cr.yp.to/daemontools.html

- Abhinav

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[ilugd] Help required to setup a cron job

2013-03-14 Thread Satish Kr Malanch
Hello all,
Can anyone plz help me create a scrropt to run a cron job

, I have schedule fetmail in every 5 minutes. but some time my cron get
stucked due to another running instance

I want a script that execute in every 3 minutes and check whether fetchmail
is running or not if running then abort it and re run.

Thanks s

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[ilugd] Help regarding speakers for event in JMI,Delhi

2013-02-17 Thread JDevDays Team
Hello,
We are organizing a two day workshop on open source.We are inviting speakers to 
come and share there knowledge with us. They can speak on any relevant topic 
they want .
For furtherdetails please contact us jdev...@yahoo.com 

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[ilugd] Help on PHP SAPI

2013-02-15 Thread Raakesh kumar
Hi All,
While reading today i came to know a concept in php that we can run it
under servlet environment using PHP SAPI module. I went through it and
installed it on my machine also ran some small examples but i couldn't
understand what is the use of it as i have never felt that there was
anything i couldn't do with php.
Any help or discussion on this would be helpful.
Thanks

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Re: [ilugd] Help on PHP SAPI

2013-02-15 Thread Bhavin Desai
Can anyone please tell me the steps to unsubscribe from a mailing list?


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 While reading today i came to know a concept in php that we can run it
 under servlet environment using PHP SAPI module. I went through it and
 installed it on my machine also ran some small examples but i couldn't
 understand what is the use of it as i have never felt that there was
 anything i couldn't do with php.
 Any help or discussion on this would be helpful.
 Thanks

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Re: [ilugd] Help on PHP SAPI

2013-02-15 Thread Raakesh kumar
Hey dude, it's the second time you are disturbing any thread. Last time
also you interrupted my thread and then Gora had replied you on how to
unsubscribe and you should have followed that but this time again!! I would
request admin now to please remove him so that he doesn't disturb again.


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 Can anyone please tell me the steps to unsubscribe from a mailing list?


 On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 11:09 PM, Raakesh kumar kumar3...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi All,
 While reading today i came to know a concept in php that we can run it
 under servlet environment using PHP SAPI module. I went through it and
 installed it on my machine also ran some small examples but i couldn't
 understand what is the use of it as i have never felt that there was
 anything i couldn't do with php.
 Any help or discussion on this would be helpful.
 Thanks

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Re: [ilugd] Help on PHP SAPI

2013-02-15 Thread Bhavin Desai
Yes please request admin to remove my email from the mailing list. I
followed the instructions last time from Gora and seems like I am still
getting mails. Please suggest a sincere help to unsubscribe.


As for now, Raakesh Kumar, you are disturbing me by spamming my inbox.
Peace.





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 Hey dude, it's the second time you are disturbing any thread. Last time
 also you interrupted my thread and then Gora had replied you on how to
 unsubscribe and you should have followed that but this time again!! I would
 request admin now to please remove him so that he doesn't disturb again.


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 wrote:

  Can anyone please tell me the steps to unsubscribe from a mailing list?
 
 
  On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 11:09 PM, Raakesh kumar kumar3...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Hi All,
  While reading today i came to know a concept in php that we can run it
  under servlet environment using PHP SAPI module. I went through it and
  installed it on my machine also ran some small examples but i couldn't
  understand what is the use of it as i have never felt that there was
  anything i couldn't do with php.
  Any help or discussion on this would be helpful.
  Thanks
 
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[ilugd] Help in building unity

2011-11-16 Thread Rishab Arora
I'm trying to build Unity for testing and hopefully fixing an annoying bug.
I'm having a lot of trouble with that. Does anyone have any experience with
building Unity?
Found these instructions
http://askubuntu.com/questions/28470/how-do-i-build-unity-from-source/28472#28472
but they don't work.  The instructions were originally for Natty and I'm
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[ilugd] Help Regarding SQL Script

2011-09-23 Thread rajkamal bhardwaj
Hi,

I am using oracle 10g and is working with PL SQL. I write many programs and
have lots of .sql files, .spc, .inc files. Sadly i had to run all of them
one by one manually to finally arive at my file and then run it to get the
result. Please can anyone help with the solution if I can make one file like
we make bat files from where i can run all files sequencially ?

For example how can create one .sql file such that:

begin

 @abc1.sql
 @abc.spc
 @xzy1.sql

 and so on
END;

please help.


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Re: [ilugd] Help Regarding SQL Script

2011-09-23 Thread Ashish SHUKLA
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rajkamal bhardwaj writes:
 Hi,

 I am using oracle 10g and is working with PL SQL. I write many programs and
 have lots of .sql files, .spc, .inc files. Sadly i had to run all of them
 one by one manually to finally arive at my file and then run it to get the
 result. Please can anyone help with the solution if I can make one file like
 we make bat files from where i can run all files sequencially ?

 For example how can create one .sql file such that:

 begin

  @abc1.sql
  @abc.spc
  @xzy1.sql

  and so on
 END;

I never used Oracle software, so assuming that its SQL client works something
like oracle ${USER} ${PASSWORD} ${SQLSCRIPT} and you have all your scripts
in same directory ending with .sql extension, then with Bourne (or compatible)
shells you can do:

$ for i in *.sql; do oracle ${USER} ${PASSWORD} $i ; done

OR if you like to concatenate all .sql files, then:

$ cat file1.sql file2.sql  ../big.sql

HTH
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[ilugd] help required to open office/libre office

2011-07-20 Thread Ajay Kumar
Hi,
I have one document(.doc) file of 200 pages.It have 20 pages of
minutes,10 pages of ATR,10 page of minutes of other thing.Accordingly,
want to put in 20 pages as minutes ,10 pages as ATR.Can it be inserted
by any tool in open office/libre-office?If I use footer then the same
text comes in all the pages.
Thanks for support in advance.
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[ilugd] Help on debian GNU/Linux 5.0

2010-08-31 Thread Ajay Bramhe
Hello All

I was installing Untangle but encounter some media error.

The computer restarted and it is asking for

unassigned-hostname login
passwors

How can I get through itis there any default userid / password for this.
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Re: [ilugd] Help me for a project

2010-07-28 Thread Viksit Gaur
Actually, that account is dead for some reason. 

Your best bets are to check out the open source community - see some projects 
that excite you, figure out how they could be made better, and then contact the 
developers with a proposal on what you'd like to do.

- Viksit

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 Cc: Ilugd@lists.linux-delhi.org
 Date: Monday, July 26, 2010, 4:45 PM
 Kindly read:
 
 http://www.shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/i-want-2-do-project-tell-me-wat-2-do.pdf
 (Courtesy: Shakti Kannan [mbuf])
 
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Re: [ilugd] Help me for a project

2010-07-28 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi,

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| Actually, that account is dead for some reason.
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Temporarily offline. You can also find a copy at:

  
http://shakthimaan.fedorapeople.org/presentations/i-want-2-do-project-tell-me-wat-2-do.pdf

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Re: [ilugd] Help me for a project

2010-07-26 Thread Nandeep Mali
Kindly read:

http://www.shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/i-want-2-do-project-tell-me-wat-2-do.pdf
(Courtesy: Shakti Kannan [mbuf])

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Re: [ilugd] Help require

2009-10-17 Thread Ravi Kumar
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Amar Singh jeet_ama...@yahoo.in wrote:

 Hi everyone
 i want to know is it possible if i ping to one ip my request should go on
 another ip (how is it possible)
 Thanks and Regards
 Amar


No, if you pinging IP Address, and Yes to different IP, if you are pinging
hostnames. You should provide the problem context to understand your case
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Re: [ilugd] Help require

2009-10-16 Thread Mohit Singh
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 1:22 AM, vikram ranade ranade.vik...@gmail.comwrote:

 
  i want to know is it possible if i ping to one ip my request should go on
  another ip (how is it possible)
 
  If i understand your question correctly then no it is not possible.



do you want to do a ping multicast/broadcast?

the evil part of it is ping flood and it is used for Denial of service
attacks. The good part is that routers and L3 switches put a rate limit on
ICMP echo packets coming from or to a particular IP.


MS
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[ilugd] Help require

2009-10-15 Thread Amar Singh
Hi everyone
i want to know is it possible if i ping to one ip my request should go on 
another ip (how is it possible)
Thanks and Regards
Amar


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Re: [ilugd] Help require

2009-10-15 Thread vikram ranade

 i want to know is it possible if i ping to one ip my request should go on
 another ip (how is it possible)

 If i understand your question correctly then no it is not possible.

Could you please explain the context of the question or the situation you
are facing so that
members can help you more.
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[ilugd] Help with conio based code (was Re: Kickstart Problem)

2009-08-12 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 07:42:52PM +0530, Gaurang Aggarwal wrote:
 Hi ,
 
 
 I need help . I am using g++ in ubuntu 9.04 .

First of all, please do NOT recycle threads. That is, please do NOT
click reply on a mail and then compose your mail and send it to the
list. Please compose a fresh mail with a relevant subject.

 This is C++ code .
[snip code]
 qwerz...@ubuntu:~$ g++ ./cpp1.cpp
 ./cpp1.cpp:2:19: error: conio.h: No such file or directory
 ./cpp1.cpp:3: error: '::main' must return 'int'
 ./cpp1.cpp: In function 'int main()':
 ./cpp1.cpp:6: error: 'cout' was not declared in this scope
 ./cpp1.cpp:7: error: 'cin' was not declared in this scope
 ./cpp1.cpp:10: error: 'getch' was not declared in this scope

conio.h: from the Wikipedia article:
Most C compilers that target UNIX and Linux do not have this header
and do not supply the concomitant library functions. Some embedded
systems are using conio-compatible library.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conio.h for details.

As for your cout and cin errors, you should either specify them with
their namespaces, e.g. as std::cin and std::cout, or allow inclusion
of all the standard library namespace labels without having to
explicity refer to them by saying

using namespace std;

somewhere near the top of the file.

HTH.

Kumar

P. S. Please also read this, if you haven't done so already:
http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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[ilugd] Help : OLSR in Debian

2009-08-10 Thread amar akshat
Sirs/Madames,

Please help me in regard to run the OLSR protocol already present in
Debian. I am suppose to implement a multihop adhoc network as a
miniproject for 4 weeks, with a testbed of 100 computers/nodes.
I am not yet able to start the olsr service on top of 802.11. Kindly
also guide me as to how to implement adhoc networks using olsr.

Thanks

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Re: [ilugd] Help : OLSR in Debian

2009-08-10 Thread Shiv
--- On Tue, 11/8/09, amar akshat amar.aks...@gmail.com wrote:
 From: amar akshat amar.aks...@gmail.com
 
 Please help me in regard to run the OLSR protocol already
 present in
 Debian. I am suppose to implement a multihop adhoc network
 as a
 miniproject for 4 weeks, with a testbed of 100
 computers/nodes.

Hi,
some distributions like the Debian based Voyage Linux (www.voyage.hk/linux) 
already have OLSR ready to go.

This link would be a good place to start -- 
https://www.the-mesh.org/tiki-index.php?page=OLSR+in+Linux


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Re: [ilugd] Help : OLSR in Debian

2009-08-10 Thread Shiv
--- On Tue, 11/8/09, Shiv shiv_j...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Shiv shiv_j...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [ilugd] Help : OLSR in Debian
 Hi,
 some distributions like the Debian based Voyage Linux
 (www.voyage.hk/linux) already have OLSR ready to go.
 

Oops .. Amend to read link for Voyage linux as http://linux.voyage.hk/

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[ilugd] Help needed: JBoss clustering

2009-07-30 Thread Cool G
Hi All -
I'm new to this community. Need help regarding installing jboss as clustered
environment and jboss load balancing steps.
Also, i need monitoring tool for Jboss application server environment.
Looking for the response.

Thank you all.
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Re: [ilugd] Help needed: JBoss clustering

2009-07-30 Thread M.S.Sree Pratheep

 I'm new to this community. Need help regarding installing jboss as
 clustered
 environment and jboss load balancing steps.
 Also, i need monitoring tool for Jboss application server environment.



Check this 
http://labs.jboss.com/file-access/default/members/jbossas/freezone/docs/Clustering_Guide/4/html/index.html


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[ilugd] Help me :

2009-07-28 Thread Nikhil sharma
HI,
 I have started with a new book to learn about open source. This
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Re: [ilugd] [HELP] How to count number of process

2009-07-27 Thread Pawan
Sudev Barar sba...@... writes:

 Problem: the number of of netcat process started run in excess of
 84000 (a process a second) so the counter simply restarts. So I guess
 it is script modification to add/update counter to a file and then
 read it/reset it.
 
 This will add number of steps
 read file value
 increment
 write file
 

inotify could monitor how often nc is opened for you, saving you some work. You
may want to use it with incron.

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[ilugd] [HELP] How to count number of process

2009-07-24 Thread Sudev Barar
I have made a script that starts netcat repeatedly in listen mode. Once
incoming data is started the script fires off another NC instance and
previous NC process then dies when data string ends. I want to count how
many netcat processes were launched during a particular testing period.

One option is to build a counter before firing up each instance of netcat.
Any other method? I would not like to touch the netcat launch script right
now.

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Re: [ilugd] [HELP] How to count number of process

2009-07-24 Thread Tanveer Singh
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Sudev Barar sba...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have made a script that starts netcat repeatedly in listen mode. Once
 incoming data is started the script fires off another NC instance and
 previous NC process then dies when data string ends. I want to count how
 many netcat processes were launched during a particular testing period.

 One option is to build a counter before firing up each instance of netcat.
 Any other method? I would not like to touch the netcat launch script right
 now.

 -

ps -aef and then use grep/awk etc., to get your fix? This will work if you
want to count number of netcat processes active at any given time.
For duration, fire ps -aef twice, once at beginning and once at the end of
duration. GET the PIDs, and then count PIDs for second ps which were not
there in first ps.
For example Time  T
It gives you 4445,4446,4447
Time T+D
It gives you 4447,4449,4450
So 4447 was there beforehand, so you ignore that, and your result is 2
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Re: [ilugd] [HELP] How to count number of process

2009-07-24 Thread Chirag Anand
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Sudev Barar sba...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have made a script that starts netcat repeatedly in listen mode. Once
 incoming data is started the script fires off another NC instance and
 previous NC process then dies when data string ends. I want to count how
 many netcat processes were launched during a particular testing period.

 One option is to build a counter before firing up each instance of netcat.
 Any other method? I would not like to touch the netcat launch script right
 now.


If this is what you're looking for: `ps -aef | grep netcat | wc -l` ?
But this will give you one extra result, as `grep netcat` will also be
counted as another running process. You can make necessary  modifications to
it and get the correct result. Hope that helps.

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Re: [ilugd] [HELP] How to count number of process

2009-07-24 Thread Tanveer Singh
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Chirag Anand anand.chi...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 1:55 PM, Sudev Barar sba...@gmail.com wrote:

  I have made a script that starts netcat repeatedly in listen mode. Once
  incoming data is started the script fires off another NC instance and
  previous NC process then dies when data string ends. I want to count how
  many netcat processes were launched during a particular testing period.
 
  One option is to build a counter before firing up each instance of
 netcat.
  Any other method? I would not like to touch the netcat launch script
 right
  now.
 

 If this is what you're looking for: `ps -aef | grep netcat | wc -l` ?
 But this will give you one extra result, as `grep netcat` will also be
 counted as another running process. You can make necessary  modifications
 to
 it and get the correct result. Hope that helps.

 --

You missed his question. He does not want to know how many netcats are
running, he wants to know that between time T and time T+Delta how many
netcats were fired.
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Re: [ilugd] [HELP] How to count number of process

2009-07-24 Thread Chirag Anand
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Tanveer Singh w...@tanveer.in wrote:

 You missed his question. He does not want to know how many netcats are
 running, he wants to know that between time T and time T+Delta how many
 netcats were fired.


Okay. In that case, I think your solution should do the needed. :)

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Re: [ilugd] [HELP] How to count number of process

2009-07-24 Thread Sudev Barar
2009/7/24 Chirag Anand anand.chi...@gmail.com:
 On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Tanveer Singh w...@tanveer.in wrote:

 You missed his question. He does not want to know how many netcats are
 running, he wants to know that between time T and time T+Delta how many
 netcats were fired.


Problem: the number of of netcat process started run in excess of
84000 (a process a second) so the counter simply restarts. So I guess
it is script modification to add/update counter to a file and then
read it/reset it.

This will add number of steps
read file value
increment
write file


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[ilugd] help nedded to install vlc.tar.bz2

2009-07-21 Thread Amar Singh
thanks to all  to guide me
this is my first query please help me
Thank 
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Re: [ilugd] help nedded to install vlc.tar.bz2

2009-07-21 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi,

--- On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Amar Singhjeet_ama...@yahoo.in wrote:
| thanks to all  to guide me
| this is my first query please help me
\--

You can extract the .tar.bz2 using:

  tar xjvf vlc.tar.bz2

Enter into the extracted directory, and follow the README and/or INSTALL file.

Or, I'd suggest you use the distribution (whichever you are using)
package manager to install software.

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Re: [ilugd] help nedded to install vlc.tar.bz2

2009-07-21 Thread Sudev Barar
2009/7/21 Amar Singh jeet_ama...@yahoo.in:
 thanks to all  to guide me
 this is my first query please help me

This is incomplete informations. It is best to use your distributions
installer. Which flavour of linux you are using?

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Re: [ilugd] Help in getting reliance Huawei datacard EC121 to work on Ubuntu

2009-05-13 Thread Leena
thanks Arun for refering to the linkit is related to same problem I 
am facing.


I know you have not used EC121but has anynody else on this list 
tried out steps from following link:

http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/pipermail/ilugc/2009-January/045551.html

I tried to carry out the steps and still not successful in getting modem 
recognized...
just wanted to check last two steps if I am doing it correct. I am new 
to linux and may not have understood commands well. hoping to get help here


1. Download the program usb_modeswitch from

which I did

2. Extract the binary usb_modeswitch

I did following:

   tar jxf usb_modeswitch-0.9.7.tar.bz2
   cd usb_modeswitch-0.9.7
   sudo cp usb_modeswitch /usr/sbin
   sudo cp usb_modeswitch.conf /etc

4. Add the following lines to /etc/usb_modeswitch.conf
added these DefaultVendor=  0x12d1
DefaultProduct= 0x1411
to .conf and saved under 
# Huawei E169		 *I have doubt here,is this correct?*



# Huawei E169
#
# Contributor: Dale Lane

;DefaultVendor=  0x12d1;
;DefaultProduct= 0x1001
DefaultVendor=  0x12d1
DefaultProduct= 0x1411
# choose one of these:
;DetachStorageOnly=1
HuaweiMode=1




5. Create the following two files under /etc/udev/rules.d   *I have 
doubt here*
since rules.d is directory, I created file named '99-huawei_00.rules' in rules.d
cut pasted what was written in the post:as follows
99-huawei_00.rules


SUBSYSTEM==block, \
ACTION==add, \
SYSFS{idVendor}==12d1, \
SYSFS{idProduct}==1411, \
OPTIONS=ignore_device

99-huawei_01.rules
---

SUBSYSTEM==usb, SYSFS{idProduct}==1411, SYSFS{idVendor}==12d1,
RUN+=/sbin/mydevice_switch.sh

6. Create a script named mydevice_switch.sh under /sbin  *  I have 
doubt here too!!!*
under folder sbin I created .sh file as 
gedit mydevice_switch.sh
and copied the code from post and saved it. Is this how to create a .sh file. are all other files under sbin folder .sh? 
but then they were green in color and didn't show .sh extn, only file I created showed it.

#!/bin/sh
/usr/sbin/usb_modeswitch
sleep 1
/sbin/modprobe usbserial vendor=0x12d1 product=0x1411.am i doing it right 
here?
also gave read/write access.

7. checked /etc/wvdial.conf and added my no., password etc.

now when I connect card and type 'wvdial' it still gives following:
r...@leena-laptop:/# wvdial
-- WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.60
-- Cannot open /dev/ttyUSB0: No such file or directory
-- Cannot open /dev/ttyUSB0: No such file or directory
-- Cannot open /dev/ttyUSB0: No such file or directory

Can anyone who had followed this post please let me know where I am going 
wrongwhy wouldn't it work.

THis post was very thorough and thanks for listing it, as I said I am new to 
linux hence would have made some mistakes.


THanks,
Leena



Arun Khan wrote:

On Wednesday 13 May 2009, Leena wrote:
  

HI all,

I am struggling to get reliance datacard (EC121) to work with Ubuntu.
I have worked with older reliance cards before (EC325, silver color
one) and have had no issues with it.
for those I used to coonect through Gnome-ppp and make required
changes in wvdial.conf and that was sufficient to get EC325 working.
BUt now when I tried same steps with new reliance card (EC121) first
of all modem is not getting recognized by the system.



No, I don't have an EC-121 but ...
I Google searched and found this link that might be helpful.
http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/pipermail/ilugc/2009-January/045551.html

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Re: [ilugd] Help in getting reliance Huawei datacard EC121 to work on Ubuntu

2009-05-13 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi,

--- On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Leena le...@itforchange.net wrote:
| I tried to carry out the steps and still not successful in getting modem
| recognized...
\--

USB devices can operate in different configurations (mass storage,
modem, etc.), and by default USB modems are configured to use mass
storage, so the drivers get installed before they can operate as a
modem.

Hence, in your dmesg output, you see that the modem is detected as mass storage:

May 13 11:13:30 leena-laptop kernel: [ 1618.148842] USB Mass Storage
support registered.

---
| 1. Download the program usb_modeswitch from
\--

So, this program switches the configuration from mass storage to
modem. Maybe, Ubuntu already provides this package:

  apt-cache search usb_modeswitch
  sudo apt-get install usb_modeswitch

---
| 6. Create a script named mydevice_switch.sh under /sbin              *  I
| have doubt here too!!!*
| under folder sbin I created .sh file as gedit mydevice_switch.sh
\--

For testing, you can simply copy the script to your HOME folder (or
maybe it comes from your installed package?), and try to run it from
there.

Before you run it, open a terminal and type sudo tail -f
/var/log/messages. Run the script and see what messages you get. You
will probably see a /dev/ttyACM0 device connected message -- which is
the device file that talks to the modem. You should now be able to
dial and use the modem.

---
| THis post was very thorough and thanks for listing it, as I said I am new to
| linux hence would have made some mistakes.
\--

While we cannot see what you are doing in the GUI, it is very easy to
tell what the system is doing from output of console commands. Even if
newbies, mistakenly, give wrong outputs, we can easily tell. They are
very powerful, indeed.

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Re: [ilugd] Help in getting reliance Huawei datacard EC121 to work on Ubuntu

2009-05-13 Thread Raj Mathur
On Wednesday 13 May 2009, Leena wrote:
 [snip]
 May 13 11:13:30 leena-laptop kernel: [ 1618.144644] Initializing USB
 Mass Storage driver...
 May 13 11:13:30 leena-laptop kernel: [ 1618.147129] scsi4 : SCSI
 emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
 May 13 11:13:30 leena-laptop kernel: [ 1618.148835] usbcore:
 registered new interface driver usb-storage
 May 13 11:13:30 leena-laptop kernel: [ 1618.148842] USB Mass Storage
 support registered.

This looks like the device is in disk emulation mode, not in modem mode.  
Is there some way to toggle that?  My phone, for instance, has both a 
modem mode that can be used for dialling and a disk emulation mode that 
can be used to access the SD RAM card in the phone.

No clue why a card designed to be a modem would have a disk emulation 
mode, though.

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Re: [ilugd] Help in getting reliance Huawei datacard EC121 to work on Ubuntu

2009-05-13 Thread Kishore Bhargava

Raj Mathur wrote:

On Wednesday 13 May 2009, Leena wrote:

[snip]
May 13 11:13:30 leena-laptop kernel: [ 1618.144644] Initializing USB
Mass Storage driver...
May 13 11:13:30 leena-laptop kernel: [ 1618.147129] scsi4 : SCSI
emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
May 13 11:13:30 leena-laptop kernel: [ 1618.148835] usbcore:
registered new interface driver usb-storage
May 13 11:13:30 leena-laptop kernel: [ 1618.148842] USB Mass Storage
support registered.


This looks like the device is in disk emulation mode, not in modem mode.  
Is there some way to toggle that?  My phone, for instance, has both a 
modem mode that can be used for dialling and a disk emulation mode that 
can be used to access the SD RAM card in the phone.


No clue why a card designed to be a modem would have a disk emulation 
mode, though.




One reason they made it a dual device, is they ship the software that 
needs to be used on a Windows machine on it. That way they don't ship a 
CD anymore!


Cheers...Kishore
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[ilugd] Help in getting reliance Huawei datacard EC121 to work on Ubuntu

2009-05-12 Thread Leena

HI all,

I am struggling to get reliance datacard (EC121) to work with Ubuntu. I 
have worked with older reliance cards before (EC325, silver color one) 
and have had no issues with it.
for those I used to coonect through Gnome-ppp and make required changes 
in wvdial.conf and that was sufficient to get EC325 working.
BUt now when I tried same steps with new reliance card (EC121) first of 
all modem is not getting recognized by the system.


when I try wvdial conf gives me following

le...@leena-laptop:~$ wvdial conf
-- WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.60
-- Warning: section [Dialer conf] does not exist in wvdial.conf.
-- Cannot open /dev/modem: No such file or directory
-- Cannot open /dev/modem: No such file or directory
-- Cannot open /dev/modem: No such file or directory

and lsusb is able to detect product  version etc.
le...@leena-laptop:~$ lsusb
Bus 007 Device 001: ID : 
Bus 006 Device 002: ID 05a9:2640 OmniVision Technologies, Inc. OV2640 Webcam
Bus 006 Device 001: ID : 
Bus 005 Device 001: ID : 
Bus 004 Device 003: ID 045e:0084 Microsoft Corp. Basic Optical Mouse

Bus 004 Device 002: ID 12d1:1411 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd.
Bus 004 Device 001: ID : 
Bus 003 Device 001: ID : 
Bus 002 Device 001: ID : 
Bus 001 Device 001: ID : 

I need help on this, Has anybody worked with this card and knows how to 
work it with Ubuntu?


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Re: [ilugd] Help in getting reliance Huawei datacard EC121 to work on Ubuntu

2009-05-12 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi,

--- On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Leena le...@itforchange.net wrote:
| le...@leena-laptop:~$ wvdial conf
| -- WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.60
| -- Warning: section [Dialer conf] does not exist in wvdial.conf.
| -- Cannot open /dev/modem: No such file or directory
|
| and lsusb is able to detect product  version etc.
| le...@leena-laptop:~$ lsusb
| Bus 004 Device 002: ID 12d1:1411 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd.
\--

Could you please post the output /bin/dmesg | tail -10, after you
have connected the USB modem to the laptop?

SK

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Re: [ilugd] Help in getting reliance Huawei datacard EC121 to work on Ubuntu

2009-05-12 Thread Arun Khan
On Wednesday 13 May 2009, Leena wrote:
 HI all,

 I am struggling to get reliance datacard (EC121) to work with Ubuntu.
 I have worked with older reliance cards before (EC325, silver color
 one) and have had no issues with it.
 for those I used to coonect through Gnome-ppp and make required
 changes in wvdial.conf and that was sufficient to get EC325 working.
 BUt now when I tried same steps with new reliance card (EC121) first
 of all modem is not getting recognized by the system.

No, I don't have an EC-121 but ...
I Google searched and found this link that might be helpful.
http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/pipermail/ilugc/2009-January/045551.html

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Re: [ilugd] Help in getting reliance Huawei datacard EC121 to work on Ubuntu

2009-05-12 Thread Leena

Hi Shakthi,
Output is as follows:
r...@leena-laptop:/home/leena# /bin/dmesg | tail -10
[  111.860905] wlan0: Initial auth_alg=0
[  111.860914] wlan0: authenticate with AP 00:1e:40:5b:8a:48
[  111.863543] wlan0: RX authentication from 00:1e:40:5b:8a:48 (alg=0 
transaction=2 status=0)

[  111.863549] wlan0: authenticated
[  111.863553] wlan0: associate with AP 00:1e:40:5b:8a:48
[  111.865093] wlan0: authentication frame received from 
00:1e:40:5b:8a:48, but not in authenticate state - ignored
[  111.866115] wlan0: RX AssocResp from 00:1e:40:5b:8a:48 (capab=0x411 
status=0 aid=3)

[  111.866122] wlan0: associated
[  111.868855] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): wlan0: link becomes ready
[  112.971392] wlan0: no IPv6 routers present


Shakthi Kannan wrote:

Hi,

--- On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Leena le...@itforchange.net wrote:
| le...@leena-laptop:~$ wvdial conf
| -- WvDial: Internet dialer version 1.60
| -- Warning: section [Dialer conf] does not exist in wvdial.conf.
| -- Cannot open /dev/modem: No such file or directory
|
| and lsusb is able to detect product  version etc.
| le...@leena-laptop:~$ lsusb
| Bus 004 Device 002: ID 12d1:1411 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd.
\--

Could you please post the output /bin/dmesg | tail -10, after you
have connected the USB modem to the laptop?

SK

  


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Re: [ilugd] Help in getting reliance Huawei datacard EC121 to work on Ubuntu

2009-05-12 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi,

--- On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Leena le...@itforchange.net wrote:
| Output is as follows:
| r...@leena-laptop:/home/leena# /bin/dmesg | tail -10
| [  111.860905] wlan0: Initial auth_alg=0
|
\--

[Snip]

I don't see any USB related output here. Do the following instead:

1. Remove the USB modem from the laptop.
2. Open a terminal and do sudo tail -f /var/log/messages.
3. Plug-in the USB modem, and you will see some output in (2). Please
post the output that you see.

SK


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Re: [ilugd] Help in getting reliance Huawei datacard EC121 to work on Ubuntu

2009-05-12 Thread Leena

HI,

I executes the command you have said in your mail. Output is:
Can't figure what it is...but looks like when i disconnected on address2 
it showing that, and later as you have suggested after connecting USB

showing last four lines.
thanks for your help

r...@leena-laptop:/# tail -f /var/log/messages
May 13 10:50:25 leena-laptop -- MARK --
May 13 11:08:57 leena-laptop kernel: [ 1508.109786] usb 4-1: USB 
disconnect, address 2
May 13 11:13:25 leena-laptop kernel: [ 1616.548709] usb 4-1: new full 
speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4
May 13 11:13:30 leena-laptop kernel: [ 1617.960127] usb 4-1: 
configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
May 13 11:13:30 leena-laptop kernel: [ 1618.102193] usbcore: registered 
new interface driver libusual
May 13 11:13:30 leena-laptop kernel: [ 1618.144644] Initializing USB 
Mass Storage driver...
May 13 11:13:30 leena-laptop kernel: [ 1618.147129] scsi4 : SCSI 
emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
May 13 11:13:30 leena-laptop kernel: [ 1618.148835] usbcore: registered 
new interface driver usb-storage
May 13 11:13:30 leena-laptop kernel: [ 1618.148842] USB Mass Storage 
support registered.
May 13 11:13:34 leena-laptop kernel: [ 1619.278878] usb 4-1: USB 
disconnect, address 4
May 13 11:14:26 leena-laptop kernel: [ 1638.929140] usb 4-1: new full 
speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 5


May 13 11:14:31 leena-laptop kernel: [ 1640.096710] usb 4-1: 
configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
May 13 11:14:31 leena-laptop kernel: [ 1640.098617] scsi5 : SCSI 
emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
May 13 11:14:31 leena-laptop kernel: [ 1640.381210] usb 4-1: USB 
disconnect, address 5
May 13 11:14:31 leena-laptop kernel: [ 1640.411090] usb 4-1: new full 
speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 6
May 13 11:14:32 leena-laptop kernel: [ 1640.502777] usb 4-1: 
configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice



Shakthi Kannan wrote:

Hi,

--- On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Leena le...@itforchange.net wrote:
| Output is as follows:
| r...@leena-laptop:/home/leena# /bin/dmesg | tail -10
| [  111.860905] wlan0: Initial auth_alg=0
|
\--

[Snip]

I don't see any USB related output here. Do the following instead:

1. Remove the USB modem from the laptop.
2. Open a terminal and do sudo tail -f /var/log/messages.
3. Plug-in the USB modem, and you will see some output in (2). Please
post the output that you see.

SK


  


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[ilugd] Help Please - Seeking a Job

2009-04-24 Thread Amit Sharma

Hi,

I am looking for a job in Linux from more than 30 days now

Job Consultants are  not able to help much. Most of them say that 
opening is for Windows Environment only.


Have also tried naukri.coms and monster.coms etc. in last one month but 
no response :(


Will posting my profile here help find me a suitable job?

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Re: [ilugd] Help Please - Seeking a Job

2009-04-24 Thread Amritendu Das
Hi Dear,This is Amritendu Das. U can send ur resume to me. There
is huge requirement for unix admin.

Thanks and regards,
Amritendu das.

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Amit Sharma amitsharm...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I am looking for a job in Linux from more than 30 days now

 Job Consultants are  not able to help much. Most of them say that opening
 is for Windows Environment only.

 Have also tried naukri.coms and monster.coms etc. in last one month but no
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 Will posting my profile here help find me a suitable job?

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[ilugd] Help: Linux Mobile

2009-04-23 Thread sarath babu.mg
I want to know about linux mobiles to buy in recent future , in which have
most user friendly functions.
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Re: [ilugd] Help: Linux Mobile

2009-04-23 Thread Kapsicum
Motorola A1600 only feature missing is Wifi

On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 4:28 PM, sarath babu.mg sarathbabu...@gmail.comwrote:

 I want to know about linux mobiles to buy in recent future , in which have
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Re: [ilugd] Help: Linux Mobile

2009-04-23 Thread sarath babu.mg
Ok thanks for the kind replay

Question: - Only Motorola Company is producing Linux Mobiles
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[ilugd] help us promote freed.in with web-buttons

2009-01-31 Thread Linux Lingam
dear all,

blog, twitter, facebook, orkut, myspace . . .
here we come:

http://freed.in/2009/promote

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[ilugd] Help needed with Drupal and s2 Design (LiveJournal uses it)

2009-01-22 Thread Rajesh Lalwani
Hi all,

Need some help.

Any people here who work on Drupal. Need help on a current site and future
ventures. 

Any people here who know anything about S2 Design  - can become a full-time
opportunity if anyone is interested in taking it up.

Let me know please.

Warm regards

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Re: [ilugd] help with setting up ubuntu on dell vostro 1310

2008-10-04 Thread Raj Mathur
On Saturday 04 Oct 2008, Vikas Rawal wrote:
 [snip]
 5. I have both ubuntu 8.04 and debian lenny installed on the
 system. They share /home, and therefore, much of the gnome
 configuration files. With the same configuration, Debian's default
 appearance seems ugly in comparison with ubuntu. In particular, the
 fonts are too large and made the desktop and some applications look
 ugly. Both ubuntu and debian have the same screen resolution
 (1280x800) and it does not look like either has a problem with my
 graphics card (intel). My present solution is to shift to a smaller
 size, but that does not solve all the problems. For example, emacs
 still has HUGE fonts.

You could try changing the screen resolution and see if that helps.  If 
your resolution is set to 120 dpi you will get huge fonts.

 [snip]
 To sum, so far, debian lenny has worked much better on this machine
 than ubuntu 8.04 did. There are a few minor issues with the debian
 installation but it recognised all the hardware so much better than
 ubuntu did.

Glad to hear that :)

Regards,

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Re: [ilugd] help with setting up ubuntu on dell vostro 1310

2008-10-04 Thread Vikas Rawal

 
 You could try changing the screen resolution and see if that helps.  If 
 your resolution is set to 120 dpi you will get huge fonts.
 



  [snip]
  To sum, so far, debian lenny has worked much better on this machine
  than ubuntu 8.04 did. There are a few minor issues with the debian
  installation but it recognised all the hardware so much better than
  ubuntu did.
 
 Glad to hear that :)
 
 Regards,
 
 -- Raju

The following command on both ubuntu and debian gives identical
results. 

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ xdpyinfo | grep dots
resolution:125x125 dots per inch

It is not obvious to me why the fonts should be rendered so
differently. 

Should I try higher or lower dpi? The xorg version that comes with
lenny does not require font specifications in xorg.conf. I am not too
sure about how to change dpi. I read somewhere that I could give an
additional argument in gdmsetup to do it.

Thanks very much,

Vikas

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Re: [ilugd] help with setting up ubuntu on dell vostro 1310

2008-10-03 Thread Vikas Rawal
 Time to switch to a more current distribution like Debian then? :)
 
[snipped]
 
 -- Raju

I actually took Raju's bait and installed debian testing on the
laptop. And this mail is to thank him and record the preliminary
results of the shift.

1. Debian (testing/lenny) installed without any issue.

2. As Raj had pointed out, the ethernet card worked once the latest
kernel was used.

3. Wireless card worked with ndiswrapper. I had only the first dvd of
the lenny distribution. Thoughtfully, ndiswrapper was provided on it
so I did not have to connect to the internet to install it.

4. Interestingly, the internal mic did not work with ubuntu despite
all sorts of tweaking. The webcam worked after some work. Quite a few
people have written on the internet about problems with getting ubuntu
to use internal mic on Del vostro laptops. These did not work with
even the latest (2.6.27) kernel on ubuntu. With debian lenny (2.6.26
kernel), internal mic and the webcam worked straight out of box!!

5. I have both ubuntu 8.04 and debian lenny installed on the
system. They share /home, and therefore, much of the gnome
configuration files. With the same configuration, Debian's default
appearance seems ugly in comparison with ubuntu. In particular, the
fonts are too large and made the desktop and some applications look
ugly. Both ubuntu and debian have the same screen resolution
(1280x800) and it does not look like either has a problem with my
graphics card (intel). My present solution is to shift to a smaller
size, but that does not solve all the problems. For example, emacs
still has HUGE fonts.

6. Running compiz on debian required some tweaking of xorg.conf.

To sum, so far, debian lenny has worked much better on this machine
than ubuntu 8.04 did. There are a few minor issues with the debian
installation but it recognised all the hardware so much better than
ubuntu did.

Vikas

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Re: [ilugd] help with setting up ubuntu on dell vostro 1310

2008-09-14 Thread Dinesh Shah (દિન ેશ શાહ/द िनेश शाह)
Vikas

On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 6:43 AM, Vikas Rawal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Could you please explain what does this command do. I tried and it worked.

 But only once. I updated the packages. But then I put pci=routeirq in the
 menu.lst, so that it will be called at boot.
 But next time it does not work!! I tried rebooting, checked the command, ...
 but no luck.

 This is weird. Could you please help.

Upgrade may have upgraded the kernel subversion as well. Try the above
kernel command line with kernel 2.6.24-18-generic only.

You may have to find other solution(s) for any other kernel version. :(

 Vikas

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Re: [ilugd] help with setting up ubuntu on dell vostro 1310

2008-09-14 Thread Vikas Rawal
 Upgrade may have upgraded the kernel subversion as well. Try the above
 kernel command line with kernel 2.6.24-18-generic only.


It was useful anyway. In that one session when your solution helped me
connect to the internet, i installed ndiswrapper. And from the drivers that
came with the machine, I found the windows driver for the broadcom wlan
card.

So, although the ethernet does not work anymore, wireless does.

So, thanks very much.

Vikas
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[ilugd] help with setting up ubuntu on dell vostro 1310

2008-09-13 Thread Vikas Rawal
I just got myself a dell vostro 1310. It came with windows vista but I
promptly removed it and installed ubuntu.

Among the basic things that are not working yet, the three most important
ones are

1. Wired network
2. Wireless network (broadcom card, will need ndiswrapper)
3. Sound

Ubuntu recognised the ethernet device (wired) but strangely is unable to
connect using it.

I am writing this e-mail from another machine. This old machine can connect
to the network using dhcp or a static ip.  At this moment, on this old
machine my /etc/network/interfaces file reads as follows.


*
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

iface eth0 inet static
address 192.168.0.4
netmask 255.255.255.0
gateway 192.168.0.1

auto eth0
*

The same configuration on the new dell vostro machine does not connect me to
the network. If I set it to connect using dhcp, it says No DHCPOFFERS
received.

Could someone point me to what I may be missing? I will of course be happy
to provide any further information you may want.

Vikas
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Re: [ilugd] help with setting up ubuntu on dell vostro 1310

2008-09-13 Thread Vikas Rawal
 I have same chipset in my desktop an with kernel version
 2.6.24-18-generic I have added following kernel command line to make
 it work

  pci=routeirq

Please try the above and add it at boot and see if it resolves the issue.



Could you please explain what does this command do. I tried and it worked.

But only once. I updated the packages. But then I put pci=routeirq in the
menu.lst, so that it will be called at boot.
But next time it does not work!! I tried rebooting, checked the command, ...
but no luck.

This is weird. Could you please help.

Vikas
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Re: [ilugd] help with setting up ubuntu on dell vostro 1310

2008-09-13 Thread Vikas Rawal
 Time to switch to a more current distribution like Debian then? :)


I agree.  This machine, however, is  for someone else who has is somewhat
familiar with ubuntu and would not want to try other distributions. And my
take is, the jump from windows to ubuntu has been a big one for someone with
a long experience of having used only windows.  Let him stick to whatever
distribution the person is okay with until all temptations of shifting to
windows are gone.

I'm a bit surprised that you, well-informed about the dangers of
 unsupported cards, still went ahead and bought a laptop without first
 checking whether all the hardware was supported or not.  How come?


Well, purchasing the computer is a complex decision. First, most of what you
get in the market is bundled with some hardware that comes with proprietary
drivers for windows only. And, by and large, on linux, there are ways of
handling most of these hardware problems. So you have ndiswrapper for
wireless cards and things like that. True the performance is not as great as
it would be if you had proper drivers. But then it works okay. Do you think
that this confidence is misplaced? Second, the decision to purchase also
depends on cost, assessment of problems with service and repairs, and a lot
of other things. :)

Vikas
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[ilugd] Help needed in Bengaluru

2008-06-08 Thread Raj Mathur
Hi,

My uncle in Bengaluru took the bold step (yes, at 80+ it's bold!) of 
switching to Linux on his PC, discarding the assembler-installed 
Winduhs in the process.  Unfortunately, he didn't consult me before 
doing so (he wasn't even aware that I know Linux), and ended up with 
BOSS Linux.

Now he's running into a few problems, mostly media and desktop related, 
which I can't help him debug remotely.  Anyone near Jayanagar who can 
pop over to his place and help him sort out his problems?  If you're 
reasonably familiar w/ Linux it shouldn't take you more than an hour or 
so.

Specifically, he's unable to do the following:

- View his encrypted PDF bank statements
- Use his printer
- Play DVDs and VCDs (totem refuses to open them)

Apart from that he gets occasional screen freezes and vanishing icons, 
which looks like a hardware problem to me (though I could be wrong).  A 
memtest should rule out or confirm bad RAM as a possibility, at least.

Mail me for his contact details if you can help,

Regards,

-- Raju
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Re: [ilugd] Help needed in Bengaluru

2008-06-08 Thread Dhiraj Gaur
HI raj

I am reaching bangalore on 23rd and would be there for a month if he
can wait that long, I can go there and resolve his issues.

Regards

Dhiraj Gaur


On 6/8/08, Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 My uncle in Bengaluru took the bold step (yes, at 80+ it's bold!) of
 switching to Linux on his PC, discarding the assembler-installed
 Winduhs in the process.  Unfortunately, he didn't consult me before
 doing so (he wasn't even aware that I know Linux), and ended up with
 BOSS Linux.

 Now he's running into a few problems, mostly media and desktop related,
 which I can't help him debug remotely.  Anyone near Jayanagar who can
 pop over to his place and help him sort out his problems?  If you're
 reasonably familiar w/ Linux it shouldn't take you more than an hour or
 so.

 Specifically, he's unable to do the following:

 - View his encrypted PDF bank statements
 - Use his printer
 - Play DVDs and VCDs (totem refuses to open them)

 Apart from that he gets occasional screen freezes and vanishing icons,
 which looks like a hardware problem to me (though I could be wrong).  A
 memtest should rule out or confirm bad RAM as a possibility, at least.

 Mail me for his contact details if you can help,

 Regards,

 -- Raju
 --
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Re: [ilugd] help needed regarding GPL license

2008-05-27 Thread Vinay Yadav
Script name :dhtmlxtree provided by dhtmlx ltd.

On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


 On 27-May-08, at 3:38 PM, Vinay Yadav wrote:

  But My original confusion is that My site will count as commercial
  project
  or not .as I explain above my site is completely free for
  user and
  Revenue will come from  adds ..we use script only for
  small module
  like  rating .plz reply  as soon as possible

 what is the name of the script?


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Re: [ilugd] help needed regarding GPL license

2008-05-27 Thread Gora Mohanty
On Tue, 27 May 2008 15:38:26 +0530
Vinay Yadav [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 But My original confusion is that My site will count as commercial project
 or not .as I explain above my site is completely free for user and
 Revenue will come from  adds ..we use script only for  small module
 like  rating .plz reply  as soon as possible
[...]

From the above description, my opinion is that your site is a commercial
one, and you should purchase the right to use the script. How big a part
of your site the script constitutes is irrelevant to the discussion, as
is the issue of the merits of such a strange licensing scheme.

It would probably make sense for you to contact the author of the script
directly, point them to your site, including a description of how you use
the script, and let her give you an authoritative opinion.

Regards,
Gora

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Re: [ilugd] HELP for beginners

2008-05-16 Thread Pratul Kalia
Hey Kenneth, what's with this FOSS internship with NRC-FOSS? Is it
something like summer training? Could you give some other details?

Thanks
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Re: [ilugd] HELP for beginners

2008-05-16 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves

On 16-May-08, at 5:01 PM, Pratul Kalia wrote:

 Hey Kenneth, what's with this FOSS internship with NRC-FOSS? Is it
 something like summer training? Could you give some other details?

engineering colleges usually require the student to do a project at  
the end of the 3rd year or 4th year - or both. Others expect the  
student to spend six months as an intern somewhere. If the student  
wants to do his project in FOSS, he can apply to NRC-FOSS for the  
purpose along with a letter from his college and he may come to  
chennai and do his project/internship. We also pay a small stipend.


-- 
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Associate, NRC-FOSS
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [ilugd] HELP for beginners

2008-05-14 Thread aashish khanna
thanks kenneth..
i talked to prof gaur.the college is working on up gradation of present
infrastructure.


On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 9:11 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


 On 14-May-08, at 8:12 AM, aashish khanna wrote:

  also ,i just checked the NRC FOSS website...i can't find any
  internship
  thing..though there is a student fellowship program but it's
  written they
  want people with proven record in foss and i am a complete novice..

 please mail srinivasan at au-kbc dot org


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 Associate, NRC-FOSS
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Re: [ilugd] HELP for beginners

2008-05-13 Thread aashish khanna
thanx alot man

On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Sudev Barar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 2008/5/13 aashish khanna [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   I,like many out there, am a total newbie to linux and FOSS and am
 desperate
   to learn and work.I have completed my 3rd year IT at NIT Jaipur and
 just
   came to know about FOSS from a senior,who sadly has left the college.
 he
   told me to go to the LUG at my place.So guys anyone to mentor me and
 others
   like me during the two months and in future on my journey of FOSS and
 linux.

 Welcome to the list.
 Everyone here is a learner and we try help each other out. While you
 will not get any hand holding but you will get pushed in to right
 directions. One of the benefits of learning at this point in time is
 connectivity and benefits of flat world. Search the net, dowload and
 try different installations and programming languages all for price of
 connectivity. Join mailing lists devoted to your current area of
 interest. You are already on way to becoming a FOSS expert.
 Post what specific questions / problems you have and I am sure some or
 the other would respond.

 --
 Regards,
 Sudev Barar

 Read http://blog.sudev.in for topics ranging from here to there.

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Re: [ilugd] HELP for beginners

2008-05-13 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves

On 13-May-08, at 8:16 AM, aashish khanna wrote:

 I,like many out there, am a total newbie to linux and FOSS and am  
 desperate
 to learn and work.I have completed my 3rd year IT at NIT Jaipur and  
 just
 came to know about FOSS from a senior,who sadly has left the college.

but there are many 3rd and 4th year students familiar with FOSS in  
NIT - as well as prof Manoj Gaur who will also guide you.


-- 
regards

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Associate, NRC-FOSS
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [ilugd] HELP for beginners

2008-05-13 Thread aashish khanna
i don't know about such a thing.

On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 7:27 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


 On 13-May-08, at 7:31 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:

  On 13-May-08, at 8:16 AM, aashish khanna wrote:
 
  I,like many out there, am a total newbie to linux and FOSS and am
  desperate
  to learn and work.I have completed my 3rd year IT at NIT Jaipur and
  just
  came to know about FOSS from a senior,who sadly has left the college.
 
  but there are many 3rd and 4th year students familiar with FOSS in
  NIT - as well as prof Manoj Gaur who will also guide you.

 and why are you not in the list of students who are doing FOSS
 internship with NRC-FOSS?


 --
 regards

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 Associate, NRC-FOSS
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [ilugd] HELP for beginners

2008-05-13 Thread aashish khanna
can anything be done now???...jaipur is outta question now after those
serial blasts...my parents' won't allow me there

On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 7:19 PM, aashish khanna [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 i don't know about such a thing.


 On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 7:27 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

 
  On 13-May-08, at 7:31 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
 
   On 13-May-08, at 8:16 AM, aashish khanna wrote:
  
   I,like many out there, am a total newbie to linux and FOSS and am
   desperate
   to learn and work.I have completed my 3rd year IT at NIT Jaipur and
   just
   came to know about FOSS from a senior,who sadly has left the college.
  
   but there are many 3rd and 4th year students familiar with FOSS in
   NIT - as well as prof Manoj Gaur who will also guide you.
 
  and why are you not in the list of students who are doing FOSS
  internship with NRC-FOSS?
 
 
  --
  regards
 
  Kenneth Gonsalves
  Associate, NRC-FOSS
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  http://nrcfosshelpline.in/code/
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [ilugd] HELP for beginners

2008-05-13 Thread aashish khanna
also ,i just checked the NRC FOSS website...i can't find any internship
thing..though there is a student fellowship program but it's written they
want people with proven record in foss and i am a complete novice..

On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 7:23 PM, aashish khanna [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 can anything be done now???...jaipur is outta question now after those
 serial blasts...my parents' won't allow me there


 On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 7:19 PM, aashish khanna 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  i don't know about such a thing.
 
 
  On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 7:27 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 
  
   On 13-May-08, at 7:31 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
  
On 13-May-08, at 8:16 AM, aashish khanna wrote:
   
I,like many out there, am a total newbie to linux and FOSS and am
desperate
to learn and work.I have completed my 3rd year IT at NIT Jaipur and
just
came to know about FOSS from a senior,who sadly has left the
   college.
   
but there are many 3rd and 4th year students familiar with FOSS in
NIT - as well as prof Manoj Gaur who will also guide you.
  
   and why are you not in the list of students who are doing FOSS
   internship with NRC-FOSS?
  
  
   --
   regards
  
   Kenneth Gonsalves
   Associate, NRC-FOSS
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   http://nrcfosshelpline.in/code/
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: [ilugd] HELP for beginners

2008-05-13 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves

On 14-May-08, at 7:49 AM, aashish khanna wrote:

 i don't know about such a thing.

contact prof Manoj Gaur


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Re: [ilugd] HELP for beginners

2008-05-13 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves

On 14-May-08, at 8:12 AM, aashish khanna wrote:

 also ,i just checked the NRC FOSS website...i can't find any  
 internship
 thing..though there is a student fellowship program but it's  
 written they
 want people with proven record in foss and i am a complete novice..

please mail srinivasan at au-kbc dot org


-- 
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Associate, NRC-FOSS
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[ilugd] HELP for beginners

2008-05-12 Thread aashish khanna
hi all
I,like many out there, am a total newbie to linux and FOSS and am desperate
to learn and work.I have completed my 3rd year IT at NIT Jaipur and just
came to know about FOSS from a senior,who sadly has left the college. he
told me to go to the LUG at my place.So guys anyone to mentor me and others
like me during the two months and in future on my journey of FOSS and linux.
regards
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[ilugd] Help with laptop in Delhi

2008-02-08 Thread Frederick Noronha [फ़र ेदरिक नोर ोनया]
Dear All, My journo friend Arnab has just gone in for an Acer with
GNU/Linux and is having some challenges in getting it started. I'd be
very grateful if you could offer any help! Thanks so much... FN
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Re: [ilugd] Help with laptop in Delhi

2008-02-08 Thread Sudhir Gandotra
On Fri, 2008-02-08 at 15:01 +0530, Frederick Noronha [फ़रेदरिक नोरोनया]
wrote:
 Dear All, My journo friend Arnab has just gone in for an Acer with
 GNU/Linux and is having some challenges in getting it started. I'd be
 very grateful if you could offer any help! Thanks so much... FN
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Dear Fred,

If you want, your friend can visit my office at Delhi (address given
below) and we can do the OpenLX Linux installation for him, as
complimentary.

OpenLX Linux works fine on these laptops.


With best wishes for Unity in thinking, feeling and action.

Sudhir Gandotra.  98-101-20918

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India
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Re: [ilugd] Help with laptop in Delhi

2008-02-08 Thread Dhiraj Gaur
Alternativly u may come down to my office in Katwaria sarai or my home in
Gurgaon  and I may try to help u out.

Regards
Dhiraj

On Feb 9, 2008 12:49 PM, Sudhir Gandotra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 2008-02-08 at 15:01 +0530, Frederick Noronha [फ़रेदरिक नोरोनया]
 wrote:
  Dear All, My journo friend Arnab has just gone in for an Acer with
  GNU/Linux and is having some challenges in getting it started. I'd be
  very grateful if you could offer any help! Thanks so much... FN
  --
  Frederick Noronha http://fn.goa-india.org Ph +91-832-2409490
  The Goa books blog: http://goabooks.wordpress.com
  Goa1556 (alt.publishing.goa): http://goa1556.goa-india.org

 Dear Fred,

 If you want, your friend can visit my office at Delhi (address given
 below) and we can do the OpenLX Linux installation for him, as
 complimentary.

 OpenLX Linux works fine on these laptops.


 With best wishes for Unity in thinking, feeling and action.

 Sudhir Gandotra.  98-101-20918

 IIPL: B-220/2, 2nd Fl., Savitri Nagar, Malviya Nagar, New Delhi 110017,
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Re: [ilugd] Help needed to locate online resource: Royalty Free Photos

2007-12-01 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
 On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:07:38 +0530, Sandip Bhattacharya
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:  
 
 Could you point me to some good references which discusses the issues
 FOSS purists find with Creative Commons, and which you find convincing
 enough?
 
 Foss purists? It does not advance your cause to use loaded
  phrases like that; it implies you have much vitriol and little
  substance to back your views.

It is not a loaded phrase. I meant it. I will explain my reason below.
It is up to you to take it in a negative manner or not, but it need not
be the intention I had. I should point out that idealists who do not
compromise on their values/intentions have always been admired (and
criticized) in history, and I consider DFSG purists to be admirable
idealists(RMS/FSF being another example that comes to my mind).

 Debian does not consider these licenses as free. If you are
  truly interested in why we think so, here is a reference:
http://people.debian.org/~evan/ccsummary.html

Thank you for this reference. I had read the discussion before, but it
was good to read the authoritative source. I read this and other views
on the subject, and it helped me a lot to get the correct perspective.
My earlier (mis)conception that CC Attribution (versions before 3.0) was
similar to BSD/Apache, proved to be a bit out of place. It turns out
that ambiguity in terms of that licence could prove to be a problem in
real life cases.

 Hopefully, version 3.0 of CC licenses will be free.  We shall
  see how that goes.

Version 3.0 is out, and most of DFSG's arguments against CC-Attrib
(especially the ambiguous credit withdrawal clause) are reported to be
fixed. (I must confess I didn't read it myself. I have this strange
aversion to the EBNF-like licence legalese). Anyway, the only current
problem of debian-legal@ against CC is the anti-DRM clause and this is
where my point of ideological purism lies.

CC Attrib 3.0 still doesn't permit downstream versions to be distributed
under any device with DRM-like features. debian-legal@ insists that
there shall be absolutely no hindrances to downstream distribution,
including well-intentioned hindrances like anti-DRM clauses(their
arguments being fair-use situations like encrypted filesystems etc.).
CC's coalition partners insist that anti-DRM clauses should not be removed.

As an individual, I have every right to take my own position, and I
consider the current stand-off between debian-legal@ and CC really
sad. In my view both of them are on the same side, with similar intentions.

If I was a machine(or a lawyer), I would have said Not DFSG compatible!
CC bad!. But I am a human, and I can make out intentions. If you take
the case of encrypted filesystems, whose right is debian-legal@
defending? People who break into other's hard disk and try to snoop on
others data?

DFSG is an excellent and noble document. But it currently cannot catch
these intention related issues. I would take it as my definitive and
serious guideline when confronted with FOSS values issues. But still
just as a guideline.

But again, please forgive my ranting about DFSG and [EMAIL PROTECTED] This
is just not restricted to Debian and DFSG. There have been similar
frequent issues with licence incompatibility in the FOSS world before,
explained very well at http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5709

In each such situations, it is upto the author to take a stand on what
his intention is, what his values are and what compromises he can live
with. Right now, I consider CC Attrib 3.0 to be my preferred licence to
share my photos, text and other content, and I would recommend other
like minded folks to do so, unless they are okay with the public-domain
licence(the free-er the licence, the better for the commons).

BTW, Yesterday wikipedia announced that the Wikimedia Foundation Board
has agreed with a proposal made by the Free Software Foundation that
will permit Wikipedia (and other such wikis) to relicense under a
Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license.

http://lessig.org/blog/2007/12/some_important_news_from_wikip.html

- Sandip


 
 As far as non-freeware royalty free content is concerned it would
 probably be better to stick to Creative Commons related resources, as
 alternative FOSS licences are both not as popular and neither as
 unambiguous. Just my point of view.
 
 Th relevant issue when peaking in a free software context is not
  whether things are no cost, but whether adequate freedoms are
  associated with the work.
 
 If all you care about is money,  then of course you are
  correct.  If your interest is in freedom, then what you stated misses
  the mark by a mile.


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Re: [ilugd] Help needed to locate online resource: Royalty Free Photos

2007-12-01 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 04:48:43 +0530, Sandip Bhattacharya
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:  

 CC Attrib 3.0 still doesn't permit downstream versions to be
 distributed under any device with DRM-like features. debian-legal@
 insists that there shall be absolutely no hindrances to downstream
 distribution, including well-intentioned hindrances like anti-DRM
 clauses(their arguments being fair-use situations like encrypted
 filesystems etc.).  CC's coalition partners insist that anti-DRM
 clauses should not be removed.

So CC folk think that these materials can not be downloaded to
 encrypted file systems? (I confess I am not following the debate).

How about chmod 600 file.png? Is that a DRM feature?

How about chmod 660 file.png, so only people in a privileged
 group can see the picture.  Is this DRM like? 

 As an individual, I have every right to take my own position, and I
 consider the current stand-off between debian-legal@ and CC really
 sad. In my view both of them are on the same side, with similar
 intentions.

 If I was a machine(or a lawyer), I would have said Not DFSG
 compatible!  CC bad!. But I am a human, and I can make out
 intentions. If you take the case of encrypted filesystems, whose right
 is debian-legal@ defending? People who break into other's hard disk
 and try to snoop on others data?

Hmm? It seems to me that debian-legal is defending my right,
 since I have my laptop fully encrypted, then I can't put CC material on
 it (since only people authorized to read the drive can access the
 material -- DRM!!)

If the DRM clauses are written unclearly enough that I can't
 download the material on my laptop (which is fully encrypted, aside
 from a smallish /boot), then the license, in my eyes, is clearly
 non-free.

What am I missing?

 DFSG is an excellent and noble document. But it currently cannot catch
 these intention related issues. I would take it as my definitive and
 serious guideline when confronted with FOSS values issues. But still
 just as a guideline.

 But again, please forgive my ranting about DFSG and
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is just not restricted to Debian and DFSG. There
 have been similar frequent issues with licence incompatibility in the
 FOSS world before, explained very well at
 http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5709

 In each such situations, it is upto the author to take a stand on what
 his intention is, what his values are and what compromises he can live
 with. Right now, I consider CC Attrib 3.0 to be my preferred licence
 to share my photos, text and other content, and I would recommend
 other like minded folks to do so, unless they are okay with the
 public-domain licence(the free-er the licence, the better for the
 commons).

That is sad, since I can no longer view these pictures, since my
 device, my laptop, as the trusted computing hardware, and  has a fully
 encrypted hard drive, and uses mandatory access controls to enforce
 security policy.  If these are DRM features (I can make sure that only
 authorized people can see documents on my machine)

I do need to go back and see what is currently deemed a DRM
 device.

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Re: [ilugd] Help needed to locate online resource: Royalty Free Photos

2007-11-20 Thread Sandip Bhattacharya
Linux Lingam wrote:
 however, in the grander scheme of things and of context, we prefer
 discussing artworks that are based on foss-values. having said that,
 must point out that not all creativecommons licenses are based on foss
 values, but at least you can be forewarned and you may filter
 accordingly. creativecommons form one part of the larger ecosystem.

Could you point me to some good references which discusses the issues
FOSS purists find with Creative Commons, and which you find convincing
enough?

BTW, loads of high quality CC licenced photos  available on Flickr can
be used with just an Attribution. AFAIK, search engines like Yahoo ,
Google and a few others provide options to look just for creative
commons content. (
Take a look at http://search.creativecommons.org/)

As far as non-freeware royalty free content is concerned it would
probably be better to stick to Creative Commons related resources, as
alternative FOSS licences are both not as popular and neither as
unambiguous. Just my point of view.


- Sandip


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Re: [ilugd] Help needed to locate online resource: Royalty Free Photos

2007-11-20 Thread Norat Saraswat
thank for ur 

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Re: [ilugd] Help needed to locate online resource: Royalty Free Photos

2007-11-20 Thread Sudev Barar
On 20/11/2007, Norat Saraswat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i couldnot understand


If you can not understand then you need to read about email and lists
before posting a query.

@Admins: Very rarely I would like to say this but if Norat writes in
like this everytime maybe he needs to be kicked off.

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Re: [ilugd] Help needed to locate online resource: Royalty Free Photos

2007-11-20 Thread Sriram J
On 11/20/07, Norat Saraswat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 how can i   make my home page plz  tell me


thread hijacking  seems to be a very much alive and kicking.

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Re: [ilugd] Help needed to locate online resource: Royalty Free Photos

2007-11-20 Thread Norat Saraswat
i couldnot understand

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Re: [ilugd] Help needed to locate online resource: Royalty Free Photos

2007-11-20 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 14:07:38 +0530, Sandip Bhattacharya
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:  

 Could you point me to some good references which discusses the issues
 FOSS purists find with Creative Commons, and which you find convincing
 enough?

Foss purists? It does not advance your cause to use loaded
 phrases like that; it implies you have much vitriol and little
 substance to back your views.

As far as the FSF is concerned, Creative Commons Attribution 2.0
 license is a non-copyleft free license, and the Creative Commons
 Attribution-Sharealike 2.0 license is a copyleft free license, though
 neither of them are good software licenses.

Debian does not consider these licenses as free. If you are
 truly interested in why we think so, here is a reference:
   http://people.debian.org/~evan/ccsummary.html

Hopefully, version 3.0 of CC licenses will be free.  We shall
 see how that goes.

 As far as non-freeware royalty free content is concerned it would
 probably be better to stick to Creative Commons related resources, as
 alternative FOSS licences are both not as popular and neither as
 unambiguous. Just my point of view.

Th relevant issue when peaking in a free software context is not
 whether things are no cost, but whether adequate freedoms are
 associated with the work.

If all you care about is money,  then of course you are
 correct.  If your interest is in freedom, then what you stated misses
 the mark by a mile.

manoj
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[ilugd] Help needed to locate online resource: Royalty Free Photos

2007-11-18 Thread Rajesh Lalwani
Hi, 

A little off your standard conversation but still about free and open source 
maybe.

Looking for help on locating sites which publish free to reproduce photos.

Looking for bikes, bikers etc. - Indian is better.

Thanks in advance.

Rajesh

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Re: [ilugd] Help needed to locate online resource: Royalty Free Photos

2007-11-18 Thread Nagadeepan R
Dear Rajesh,
Dont know if there are any Foss sites for this,
but since you are looking for royalty free photos of bikes and bikers, i
think better way to approach this will be to check with sites like
www.bcmtouring.com , www.xbhp.com as these are both indian sites that are
into touring and adventure biking..
probably the members of the site will be able to provide you with their own
photos royalty free.
--Deepan

On Nov 19, 2007 8:56 AM, Rajesh Lalwani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 A little off your standard conversation but still about free and open
 source maybe.

 Looking for help on locating sites which publish free to reproduce photos.

 Looking for bikes, bikers etc. - Indian is better.

 Thanks in advance.

 Rajesh

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Re: [ilugd] Help needed to locate online resource: Royalty Free Photos

2007-11-18 Thread Linux Lingam
On Nov 19, 2007 8:56 AM, Rajesh Lalwani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 A little off your standard conversation but still about free and open source 
 maybe.

 Looking for help on locating sites which publish free to reproduce photos.

 Looking for bikes, bikers etc. - Indian is better.

a) creative.linux-delhi.org, but the site is temporarily down.
incidentally, dingo calls me early morning on sunday while i'm snoring
to remind me the site is down. thanks! :-)
we're in the middle of trying to upgrade the entire engine of
creativedot, so this may take a few more days. meanwhile, gora is
following up on getting the existing site up and running.

b) creativecommons.org points to various resources, if you use their
built-in meta search engine.



 Thanks in advance.

 Rajesh

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Re: [ilugd] Help needed to locate online resource: Royalty Free Photos

2007-11-18 Thread Linux Lingam
On Nov 19, 2007 11:29 AM, Nagadeepan R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear Rajesh,
 Dont know if there are any Foss sites for this,
 but since you are looking for royalty free photos of bikes and bikers, i
 think better way to approach this will be to check with sites like
 www.bcmtouring.com , www.xbhp.com as these are both indian sites that are
 into touring and adventure biking..
 probably the members of the site will be able to provide you with their own


ah well, am sure there are dozens of sites that provide 'freeware'
authored stuff.
perhaps we could discuss those here. perhaps not. ymmv.

however, in the grander scheme of things and of context, we prefer
discussing artworks that are based on foss-values. having said that,
must point out that not all creativecommons licenses are based on foss
values, but at least you can be forewarned and you may filter
accordingly. creativecommons form one part of the larger ecosystem.


:-)
niyam

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[ilugd] Help on Sify Client Installation

2007-10-31 Thread Er. Saurabh Sharma
I've CentOS 5 and Windows XP installed on my machine,and i'm using the
 SIFY Connection [128KBPS] for accessing the net.
I'm finding a little problem to get on with installation of the Sify
 Client for Linux,to get start for using Inet on my L-Box.
I worked all the way as told by SIFY through the installation
 process.The installation was cool,but when i tried to access the script to 
start
 the client,it showed error asking for some file that it was not
 able to get.
I 'm able to ping my GATEWAY and even access a web page on
 the local network of SIFY which provides clients for
 download.

The same setting of Network are working fine on Windows.
Can you help me out,getting an alternative client or working out with
 the same.
 
With Regards 
Saurabh Sharma







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Re: [ilugd] Help on Sify Client Installation

2007-10-31 Thread Piyush Kumar
 The installation was cool,but when i tried to access the script to start
 the client,it showed error asking for some file that it was not
 able to get.

Which script you are talking about...?? and what ERROR is shown..???


On 10/31/07, Er. Saurabh Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've CentOS 5 and Windows XP installed on my machine,and i'm using the
 SIFY Connection [128KBPS] for accessing the net.
 I'm finding a little problem to get on with installation of the Sify
 Client for Linux,to get start for using Inet on my L-Box.
 I worked all the way as told by SIFY through the installation
 process.The installation was cool,but when i tried to access the script to
 start
 the client,it showed error asking for some file that it was not
 able to get.
 I 'm able to ping my GATEWAY and even access a web page on
 the local network of SIFY which provides clients for
 download.

 The same setting of Network are working fine on Windows.
 Can you help me out,getting an alternative client or working out with
 the same.

 With Regards
 Saurabh Sharma







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Re: [ilugd] Help on Sify Client Installation

2007-10-31 Thread Anupam Jain
On 10/31/07, Er. Saurabh Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've CentOS 5 and Windows XP installed on my machine,and i'm using the
 SIFY Connection [128KBPS] for accessing the net.
 I'm finding a little problem to get on with installation of the Sify
 Client for Linux,to get start for using Inet on my L-Box.
 I worked all the way as told by SIFY through the installation
 process.The installation was cool,but when i tried to access the script to
 start
 the client,it showed error asking for some file that it was not
 able to get.
 I 'm able to ping my GATEWAY and even access a web page on
 the local network of SIFY which provides clients for
 download.

 The same setting of Network are working fine on Windows.
 Can you help me out,getting an alternative client or working out with
 the same.


Forget the official Sify client for Linux. I have wasted a considerable
percentage of my youth trying to get that damn script to work. No I kid you
not. I later found this piece of C code, called Super Sify or something,
written by a guy called Bharat Bhushan or something, which compiled and
seemed to work well (I use the term work well loosely, out of
consideration for the fact that for a mere piece of software, written by
mortals, trying to squeeze entire bytes out of the constipated Sify lines is
an impossible task to begin with). Google for Sify Linux clients for more
up to date information. Or try using the Official Mac client for Sify. It's
written in Java and is actually cross platform.

Though I would recommend you forget all I said in the previous paragraph and
ditch Sify altogether for a semi decent broadband connection. Seriously. You
can thank me later.

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Re: [ilugd] Help on Sify Client Installation

2007-10-31 Thread Piyush Kumar
Sify Broadband Client by Bhushan Tiwari:
http://puggy.symonds.net/%7Esrp/sify.c
http://n.domaindlx.com/ujjwal/linux/sify_tweaked2.c

For any other issue ...write your queries at http://broadbandforum.in

and Yeah!!...Plz READ the last lines by Anupam Jain  :)

nJoy!! :)

Piyush

On 11/1/07, Anupam Jain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 10/31/07, Er. Saurabh Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I've CentOS 5 and Windows XP installed on my machine,and i'm using the
  SIFY Connection [128KBPS] for accessing the net.
  I'm finding a little problem to get on with installation of the Sify
  Client for Linux,to get start for using Inet on my L-Box.
  I worked all the way as told by SIFY through the installation
  process.The installation was cool,but when i tried to access the script
 to
  start
  the client,it showed error asking for some file that it was not
  able to get.
  I 'm able to ping my GATEWAY and even access a web page on
  the local network of SIFY which provides clients for
  download.
 
  The same setting of Network are working fine on Windows.
  Can you help me out,getting an alternative client or working out with
  the same.


 Forget the official Sify client for Linux. I have wasted a considerable
 percentage of my youth trying to get that damn script to work. No I kid
 you
 not. I later found this piece of C code, called Super Sify or something,
 written by a guy called Bharat Bhushan or something, which compiled and
 seemed to work well (I use the term work well loosely, out of
 consideration for the fact that for a mere piece of software, written by
 mortals, trying to squeeze entire bytes out of the constipated Sify lines
 is
 an impossible task to begin with). Google for Sify Linux clients for
 more
 up to date information. Or try using the Official Mac client for Sify.
 It's
 written in Java and is actually cross platform.

 Though I would recommend you forget all I said in the previous paragraph
 and
 ditch Sify altogether for a semi decent broadband connection. Seriously.
 You
 can thank me later.

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[ilugd] Help needed... UBUNTU

2007-07-18 Thread Noren Das
Dear all,

I have been a silent observer of your group I have been using Ubuntu
6.10LTS from past one year... but due to some problem my laptop
crashed.

Now I am unable to install ubuntu in my laptop. I am having Acer Travel Mate
2003.
If some body in this community is residing near Janakpuri or Harinagar, I
would be really great full asking for his expert advice.

Thanks in Advance

Warm Regards

Noren Das.
UTI Bank Ltd.
Janakpuri.


On 7/18/07, Debarshi 'Rishi' Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://rahulsundaram.livejournal.com/11995.html

 Smolt is the opt-in hardware profiler for Fedora and while the
 initial focus was on Fedora, Smolt is derived from RHN client tools
 and is based on HAL and has always been portable to other Linux
 distributions and possibly other operating systems which HAL has been
 ported to like FreeBSD or Solaris. The idea as Max Spevack has hinted
 before is to have a neutral central website to gather metrics on Linux
 usage. There are many other advantages. We could understand some
 patterns and gain insight into how Linux systems are being used and
 prioritize testing and focus development. We could talk to hardware
 vendors and gain more support. A shared and coordinated effort between
 Linux distributions and other operating systems would have enormous
 benefits for both developers and end users.

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Re: [ilugd] Help needed... UBUNTU

2007-07-18 Thread Roshan

--- Noren Das wrote:

 Now I am unable to install ubuntu in my laptop. I am
 having Acer Travel Mate
 2003.
 If some body in this community is residing near
 Janakpuri or Harinagar, I
 would be really great full asking for his expert
 advice.

You would have to specify, what the problem is
exactly? Unable to install Ubuntu is too little
information. Also, what do you mean, when your laptop
has crashed?

In other words, give more details.

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[ilugd] help me!!!

2007-06-30 Thread devesh
hello,

Anybody knows about FingerPrint scanner supported by Linux ?

currently available in India ( near Delhi ) ?

If anyone has any information regarding the Scanner , price , location
,etc...

Please mail me .

Devesh,
JMILUG
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