Re: [lace] Re: roller pillow and lace
Thank you Jacquie, Will consider all this when designing or choosing a pattern, both across and pattern repeat. Will certainly work a sample piece to prove it works, or not, on the pillow, it works with the thread and I like it enough to go all the way around a rectangle table cloth. I had already decided to gather around the corners for the cloth as it would be way too complicated to do corners on this project. I did work corners on my napkins in 2008 but that was nicely challenging not horribly difficult which this might be. I am expecting to be able to loose wrap and bag the yardage of lace and allow it to come up over the cover cloths (which will be protecting everything from the pins, and there is room above the roller to take soft sausage rolled lace...I hope), but thank you for making me think that through. I might still resort to working this on my big home made block pillow if I choose to make a wider than will fit on the block and just working it at home, and just find a pretty set of narrow edgings to keep on the travel pillow to take and work when away from home. I like to take lace to work on trips more than 2 nights long, and eventually I can perhaps make a christening gown or something with lace strips and good quality cloth. Or else to use to decorate around hanky edges or ring pillow, or something similar. Sue T where it is blowing wild and wet, but please dont allow the snow to get this far south, I dont like it:-) The other thing to consider when working on a roller is the length of the pattern repeat. Because of the curve of the roller, the optimum sweet spot to work on is usually only about 2 inches maximum. If you are doing a wider edging with a longer repeat you will find you have to keep dodging about Jacquie in Lincolnshire. Our gas was to be cut off today so DH got up early and put both the central - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Fw: roller pillow and lace
It would be interesting to get opinions on the sensible, comfortable number of pins in a given area of pillow. The roller pillow is My napkins certainly go into the wash in a pillowcase and damp press rather than allow to dry and they come up well each time. I also have a kerchief I made which has also been washed in the same way without problems. I dont have a dryer. I am going to play with patterns so will see what works well and what causes me problems:-) thank you for your add ons. Sue T Just remember if you are going to do a wider piece of lace, check that your roller pillow has room for all the bobbins. It can be a little uncomfortable if they are getting in your way. If using blue cardstock, you will still need to cover the ink on the pricking with something unless it is a permanent ink. I don't worry about yardage lace getting dirty, it is probably going to be attached to something washable anyway. I am a firm believer in chucking the finished item with lace into the washer and dryer. Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA www.jblace.com http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org Hi Janice, I do remember some of this but on this occasion chose to use normal pricking card, but have since been reminded that ordinary card without the blue sticky would work well. It was my first try at using the roller pillow and I have a snug fit over the top of the roller as well as a piece of camping foam and then cotton fabric tight around it. It is working pretty well, I am getting on well. Having achieved that I will go for the lighter card next time and the slightly larger roll of card to prevent the pins using the same hole for yards Sue T - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: Subject: [lace] Roller pillow and lace
Good advise as it isn't very wide. I designed this pattern as a square photoframe for Alice for the Arachne exchange in 2008 I think, and have since changed it to be this straight strip to try on this pillow. I called it Alice of course:-) It is working up well and getting me into the swing of using up the silk threads, finding out all the little things I dont know yet and even bringing in new threads as I go, at the moment. We have two of those little glass angels which we bought last december at our local garden centre which puts up a fabulous christmas display every year. I bought them because I liked them for our small christmas tree and when we got them home my DH told me how lovely they would look with some lace around them, !!! bless him.. LOL. As if I didn't have anything to do at all. this year I started very early so was all finished during November and didn't buy anything this year that just needed that extra bit of lace:-) hense the reason I have time to play and get used to this new pillow I have only had for 5 or 6 months:-) Sue T It looks like a fairly small roller to me, so definitely try a small sample of lots of bobbins first. Looks like a nice pattern to work for demo'ing. BTW, where did you get the little glass angel that you put the lace skirt on? I have not seen those before. I wonder if anyone carries them in the US. Janice Subject: [lace] Roller pillow and lace MY DH has taken a photo of the roller pillow (just as I was putting it to bed the other evening, so I have uploaded it onto the webshots site in the hurwitzend album. He was the other side of the pillow, so has the finished lace, and the roller. the bobbins are pinned up inside the cover cloth the other side of it. Sue T Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA www.jblace.com http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Fw: [lace] Re: roller pillow and lace pvt
Hi Lyn, go into arachne webshots and the Hurwitzend folder and it is the first photo. My cat, sadly is no longer with us and we were just talking about missing him. He used to just hold the bobbins steady, he never upset anything. He did occasionally get between me and the pillow (by sitting on my lap:-) Sue T Dear Sue, I wanted to see the picture of your travel pillow on your website. I went there, saw the really cute picture of you making lace with the cat looking on, seeing what is able to be caught. But I could find no picture of a travel pillow. Could you please direct me further? I must be having a senior moment. lrb http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Re: roller pillow and lace
Hi Janice, I do remember some of this but on this occasion chose to use normal pricking card, but have since been reminded that ordinary card without the blue sticky would work well. It was my first try at using the roller pillow and I have a snug fit over the top of the roller as well as a piece of camping foam and then cotton fabric tight around it. It is working pretty well, I am getting on well. Having achieved that I will go for the lighter card next time and the slightly larger roll of card to prevent the pins using the same hole for yards of lace:-) thank you for reminding me of that. There is a little pocket on the back side of the travel pillow bag, but it is facing the side so not good for the lace inside. At the moment I have the lace laying straight over the bag, but have pinned a cotton hanky either side of it, so I just pull it through. I have now worked enough lace so I am going to have to roll it, or fold and pin:-) I am currently adding in new bobbins as I work when they run low (as I am using the gutterman silk thread from a previous project while learning the use the pillow). I expected to find it harder to get the hang of than I have. I will have a play with things to find out the best way to secure the lace to keep it clean and safe while I continue to work. Once I have used up this thread I am planning on designing and making a wider and longer strip of lace for a tablecloth edge which will definately be a longer work in progress and the longest piece of lace ever made by myself in all the 10 years of lacemaking. Thank you to you and all the other kind people for their advice and suggestions. Sue T Hi Sue, There was a discussion on Arachne in the past where it was suggested that if you intend to do yardage on a roller pillow, that you do not make the pricking fit a half inch left over to pin to the back of the pillow, and sewn together. Janice There wasn't room to wrap wool blanket around it, so in the end I have a thin layer of foam with a couple of layers of cotton fabric pulled tight around it and the pattern fits beautifully around that. I am using up the spare left over silk threads left on the bobbins from my finished garter. Sue T Dorset UK Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA www.jblace.com http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Re: roller pillow and lace
I agree with Malvary about the width. I only came to like roller pillows when I was given a Swedish one, which is more substantial than a foam one, and has a much wider apron, so gives me plenty of space for wider strips. Sue sueba...@comcast.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Re: roller pillow and lace
I too work corner's on my wide Swedish roller. I work on a bit of fun-foam sheet as I approach the corner, and the pins mainly go in this. Then I bundle the bobbins carefully in cover cloths, take off the weight from the threads, and turn the pricking and lace. Yes, I used to do this on my block pillow, but I like the wider apron that the Swedish pillow gives me so much, that I have moved over to using that much more. Sue sueba...@comcast.net -Original Message- - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Re: roller pillow lace storage
And when you're really pushed for time or want to use your creative energy in making lace rather than bags or sausage rolls* to wrap the lace around - a small Ziploc bag pins nicely to the back of the pillow for storage of the gently rolled lace! * conjures up a messy piece of lace to the English mind! Sue sueba...@comcast.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Roller Pillow plus
Thank you all for your comments, it would appear that you all use some sort of soft sausage shape which is now so obvious:-) I will play with the general idea and see what works best inside the bag open and closed and to make sure future lace rolls off the pillow in good condition for use and obviously keeping it clean as well while working it. This was just started as a test piece using up the spare silk thread rather than wasting it and to see if I could get the hang of the pillow, I was not convinced initially, but am delighted with how it is progressing. I used normal pricking card which might have been a mistake, its tough getting the pins in (and the top of my finger is getting a bit sore), so will downgrade to light weight card another time that I can print the pattern directly on and then put the blue sticky on the top. What is the minimum depth you might put pins into this thicker card and pillow, so it would stay put but not have to press so hard? Because it is just a strip I dont need to push them right into the pillow at any point and what is the minimum recommended amount of pins you would leave in the pattern as you work, obviously removing from the back to put in the front as you work? It has only got 14 or 15 pairs in the work and on a 2mm dia grid, so fairly close together. Alice, I am working the pattern I made up for you for the exchange g. Sue T Dorset UK www.hurwitzend.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace-chat] Roller Pillow plus
Thank you all for your comments, it would appear that you all use some sort of soft sausage shape which is now so obvious:-) I will play with the general idea and see what works best inside the bag open and closed and to make sure future lace rolls off the pillow in good condition for use and obviously keeping it clean as well while working it. This was just started as a test piece using up the spare silk thread rather than wasting it and to see if I could get the hang of the pillow, I was not convinced initially, but am delighted with how it is progressing. I used normal pricking card which might have been a mistake, its tough getting the pins in (and the top of my finger is getting a bit sore), so will downgrade to light weight card another time that I can print the pattern directly on and then put the blue sticky on the top. What is the minimum depth you might put pins into this thicker card and pillow, so it would stay put but not have to press so hard? Because it is just a strip I dont need to push them right into the pillow at any point and what is the minimum recommended amount of pins you would leave in the pattern as you work, obviously removing from the back to put in the front as you work? It has only got 14 or 15 pairs in the work and on a 2mm dia grid, so fairly close together. Alice, I am working the pattern I made up for you for the exchange g. Sue T Dorset UK www.hurwitzend.co.uk To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] roller pillow lace
Months ago we bought me a travel roller pillow but it has taken me until now to get it into use. I have a roller with the block pillow but could not get the hang of working with it, so was a little cautious with this one, but after reading all your info last time I asked I have tried out various ways to get it working. There wasn't room to wrap wool blanket around it, so in the end I have a thin layer of foam with a couple of layers of cotton fabric pulled tight around it and the pattern fits beautifully around that. I am using up the spare left over silk threads left on the bobbins from my finished garter. So last night I set to attaching the pairs on my prepared pattern. Just about 15 pairs for one of my own torchon designs and was away without any hitches:-) I am really pleased with how it is going but need to know the best way to store the made lace. On my block pillow I use one of the little rolling pin shapes to roll the lace around for safe keeping but there is no where to pin it down on this pillow. Closed up it is like a small rectangular shopping bag, with the roller in the bottom. Any suggestions please Sue T Dorset UK www.hurwitzend.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] roller pillow lace
Hi Bev, There is a little pocket but it is sideways on and wouldn't hold the lace. Maybe if I where to wrap a clean hanky around it until it gets longer but then feel it should be rolled around something so it doesn't have creases in. I went to bed so excited and pleased with myself, LOL. Sue T Bev wrote.. Hello Sue I've seen several roller pillows with work in progress, the finished lace going into a little drawstring bag behind the roller. One lacemaker made one from fabric that matched her cover cloth, but the others used translucent nylon gift bags such as sold at a dollar store. A roller pillow I made with the same fold-up arrangement had a pocket sewn to the back where the finished lace was meant to go. This is fine while the pillow is out and in use, when the pieces were folded up the lace wouldn't stay in the pocket. Hope this might help ;) On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Sue hurwitz...@btinternet.com wrote: I am really pleased with how it is going but need to know the best way to store the made lace. On my block pillow I use one of the little rolling pin shapes to roll the lace around for safe keeping but there is no where to pin it down on this pillow. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace-chat] roller pillow lace
Months ago we bought me a travel roller pillow but it has taken me until now to get it into use. I have a roller with the block pillow but could not get the hang of working with it, so was a little cautious with this one, but after reading all your info last time I asked I have tried out various ways to get it working. There wasn't room to wrap wool blanket around it, so in the end I have a thin layer of foam with a couple of layers of cotton fabric pulled tight around it and the pattern fits beautifully around that. I am using up the spare left over silk threads left on the bobbins from my finished garter. So last night I set to attaching the pairs on my prepared pattern. Just about 15 pairs for one of my own torchon designs and was away without any hitches:-) I am really pleased with how it is going but need to know the best way to store the made lace. On my block pillow I use one of the little rolling pin shapes to roll the lace around for safe keeping but there is no where to pin it down on this pillow. Closed up it is like a small rectangular shopping bag, with the roller in the bottom. Any suggestions please Sue T Dorset UK www.hurwitzend.co.uk To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] Dot paper
Lora, if you just google dotted paper it gives you access to a site where you can print off all kinds of lines, squares, graphs, and dots, it also gives you the ability to put in what size dots, spacing etc. and it's free. Sue M Harvey Norfolk UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Sewing with Lace; Opera Costuming by Tiramani
Jeri Many thanks for your write-up of this magazine. I have been meaning to go out and buy it since you wrote about it, but have just been very busy with one thing and another. For others who haven't yet bought it, but want to: Today, I decided to order it online. I was pleased to discover that it is currently 25% off, with free shipping, so cost me $5.24 in total! I'm not sure how long the offer runs on Threads website, but you may want to visit it soon! Sue sueba...@comcast.net -Original Message- From: jeria...@aol.com Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 2:45 PM This is for those who would like to sew clothing from lace yardage (machine-made) and those interested in opera costuming. The North American magazine Threads, Nov. 2011 # 157, has a cover illustration of red lace. www.threadsmagazine.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Boot/shoe buttons
Susan Hottle commented that she had not realised that boot buttons were glass. From my memory of some of my shoes in the 1930/40s they weren't all glass!! I think there were several different types and it could have come down to what you were prepared to pay!! Sue Fink Masterton, New Zealand (who wore those shoes in Guernsey, Channel Islands and Canada!!) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace-chat] hacked account?
Yes, several times, received 2 more today I just deleted them as did not know who they were from but guessed what sort of thing they were offering. Sue M Harvey Norfolk UK To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Crochet hooks
Hi Viv Crocheters in the miniature world say that Venne Colcoton and it's like work well with a .75 or .5 hook. I've used a .6 with DMC80 with great success, and 120 with a .4, to make mats etc for dolls house fanatic friends! Sue in East Yorks On 29 Nov 2011, at 19:20, viv.l...@btinternet.com wrote: Hi Everyone I'm dipping my fingers back into crocheting and wondered whether to crochet with come of my lace threads. I have only ever crocheted with wool or with a no 20 crochet cotton for which I use a 1.25mm crochet hook. Does anyone know where there is a guide as to what hook size to use with which thread? If not can you say what size hook you'd use for No 30, 40, 50 etc crochet cotton Has anyone ever crocheted with lace thread and if so with what results (I've tried using a perle 12, but couldn't get the hook size right) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Lucky charms
I was looking for the other charms that my brain couldn't think of, of course I knew there were more than horseshoe, but couldn't for the life of me think what. I have had several suggestions of the 4 leaf clover, and one or two others, you have gone the whole hog with a lovely long list. In the mean time I did actually click on charms and found some good ones, most of these. I didn't remember the chimney sweep, but had seen the rings (which I have on my charm bracelet) saw the clover leaf, heart, cats and bells. I think I will probably buy and store several of the best which I hope will keep their charm and significance down the years and generations. That way whoever has custody of the garter when I have gone to the lacemaker lesson in the sky can add their choice. I feel I ought to make them aware of the hours taken and a sort of value of the garter, as well as why it was made. My DH is worried that I might be hurt by the attigude of some of the modern youth will not share the love of the tradition but I think it should only be offered for use on the day of those brides with the right attitude. Taking about 9 weeks to work one layer and 8 for the second, that is a lot of hours work. (approx 300 hours) plus a little design work time and materials Nobody else in my family are lace makers so the lacemaker charms although they sound lovely are not relevant, birthsigns in the early years when I have access to garter and bride and I could let them keep the charm. (ooh I like that idea). I am definately going to have a hard time choosing charms, good fun though. Sue T If you really want to go crazy and go for charms associated with love and weddings, look up the silver charms sold for charm bracelets - loads of ideas on ebay: church; bride and groom; engagement, wedding and eternity rings; cat; horseshoe; chimney sweep; four-leaf clover; heart; key to my heart; wishing well; wishbone; wedding bells; baby shoes; stork and baby; cradle; pixie; birth signs of the bride and groom. And if you want one to represent the lacemaker, there's the lacemaker charm, Catherine wheel, hedgehog or a spider in a web. Jean in Poole, Dorset,UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Lucky charms
What a lovely idea, I will keep my eyes peeled. I have a charm bracelet myself which several of those mentioned on it and in 77 I bought a little necklace with a sterling silver crown for decoration. I have used that attached to one of my spangles:-)I think I once picked up a little golden heart which might be good for the task:-) I still have a little black cat brooch with the three legged motif for the Isle of Man. I must have had that since I was about 6. Sue T, Dorset UK. Our weather also milder and glorious sunshine at the moment. Last year we had snow at this time, although that is unusual. My sister in Canada has now put up her christmas decorations but it seems way too early here strangly. Sue - one of the places to look is your local charity shop. There are often 'old' silver and gold charms on sale and some of them are much nicer than the ones that are made today. I have a tiny little money bag that was in the Christmas pudding along with the 3-penny pieces at my grandmothers when I was about 8. It is still my favourite charm on my bracelet. If you got a little gold or silver chain (depending on the charm) to give with the loan of the garter, then the bride would be able to wear it afterwards. Malvary in Ottawa where we are having a November 'heatwave' +11 today when it could quite easily be -11, but this is MUCH better. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Lucky charms
Thank you, I will keep my eyes open when out and about, who knows what I might find now you have all opened my eyes to so many lovely charm ideas. Sue T Dorset UK where the wind is blowing again and frost promised for tonight, brr I've been buying charms from a bead store. They have quite a collection. Nita in Calgary with winds up to 85 km/hour On 27-Nov-11, at 8:15 AM, Malvary Cole wrote: Sue - one of the places to look is your local charity shop. There are often 'old' silver and gold charms on sale and some of them are much nicer than the ones that are made today. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] lucky charms
Can any one tell me of items they would consider to be a lucky charm apart from the horseshoe. ? I want small items I can buy to decorate the garter so want to have a little store of some obvious clasical ones. As suggested I could add little specific modern ones for any particular bride with a particular hobby at the time, but for now I am just interested in the ones that have been considered lucky for many years. Sue T Dorset UK www.hurwitzend.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Your story
Are you sure it's a 'health' and not a 'wealth' warning Jan??? LOL Sue in East Yorks On 26 Nov 2011, at 22:04, jan tregidgo wrote: Missenden Abbey ran three classes that weekend, (March 1980) led by Miss Dawson, Miss Miller and Margaret Tite. I was in Jean Millers class and she got me going.. I did bandage, little fan and even started sheep's head during the weekend... I was hooked and haven't stopped since! I warn all new lace makers that it needs a government health warning as it is 'very addictive.' Jan Tregidgo - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace-chat] lucky charms
Can any one tell me of items they would consider to be a lucky charm apart from the horseshoe. ? I want small items I can buy to decorate the garter so want to have a little store of some obvious clasical ones. As suggested I could add little specific modern ones for any particular bride with a particular hobby at the time, but for now I am just interested in the ones that have been considered lucky for many years. Sue T Dorset UK www.hurwitzend.co.uk To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Beginning and End lace Garter complete
I threaded ribbon through the two circles of garter lace today, one laying around the other and taken photos which are now at the beginning of my photo album on the webshots page. Hurwitzend for anyone who is interested to see. Thank you for your feedback on the tension problem and the beginning and ending of the lace. I sent an email about laundering between uses, but it disappeared into oblivion. I am especially interested with relation to making sure there is no residue from perspiration when worn around a brides leg. I have read and saved information previously posted about laundering lace, but am particularly interested in the possible perspiration issue and preserving this lace for as long as it can last down the generations into the future. I want to write up a piece about my aunt who inspired it, and also a sheet giving instructions about threading at the time and removal soon after the wedding, relaundering and storing for the future uses. This I feel needs to go with the garter for the future. Can anyone point me to archive about this, if its already been covered before. Many thanks Sue T Dorset UK www.hurwitzend.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] Your story
Lora, I am convinced that because I am a Gemini I very quickly get bored with one particular thing , but because lace has so many types to learn, I am still smitten after over 20years of lacemaking and cannot ever see myself getting tired of it. Sue M Harvey Norfolk UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Begining and End, extra
Last night I sat trimming the ends of threads off the garter lace, sewed in the last two to keep it all looking tidy and was happy. I then got out the top layer of lace and held them up, one over the other only to find that the new one is shorter than the original (and they were made to lay one on top of the other). For a full minute I was stunned, then thought I must have miss counted the amount of lace to be made. So I counted the fans of both, the same. Then I laid the printed pattern of one layer over the top of the other thinking this was were I would see the error, No. It lays and matches fine on paper, weird or what. Both patterns charted out on the same design program and printed on the same size. So now I am left to think it must be the tension of the particular stitch I used, diepe, certainly I used the same type of silk thread for each piece, I need to ask some more questions of you more experienced lacemakers. I have been able to lay the edge of my hand inside the loop and just pull it down very gently and it comes down further, but not yet matching. The redeaming factor is that it is the same amount of lace and with the same amount of honeycomb holes down the centre of each piece and nature of it is to gather it up with elastic and ribbon, so hopefully it will be fine. Opinions please! You have already given me some very good advice about not making it up until a couple of weeks before the bride is going to wear it because of the effect on the lace, how to store it etc as well as some wonderful ideas of personal decoration for specific brides which are all amazing, so thank you for those. Also, one at least of you is expert on cleaning and preserving. I am wondering if there is anything special needed when washing after the event to make sure perspiration doesn't stain the garter? Some things would just need refreshing but obviously something worn so close to the skin might be a different story. Most of my lace is made for a reletively short life, but this obviously wanting to hand on to brides down the years. I do have the information as passed on in previous threads of mail about washing lace, but it is really this perspiration issue that concerns me. Many thanks to all. Sue T Dorset UK www.hurwitzend.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Begin and End more repeat
I sent this but part of it is missing, so I am sending this again, there is also another bit about perspiration which went through, so sorry about any confusion, I think my computer is playing silly devils. Gremlins in the works, Last night I sat trimming the ends of threads off the garter lace, sewed in the last two to keep it all looking tidy and was happy. I then got out the top layer of lace and held them up, one over the other only to find that the new one is shorter than the original (and they were made to lay one on top of the other). For a full minute I was stunned, then thought I must have miss counted the amount of lace to be made. So I counted the fans of both, the same. Then I laid the printed pattern of one layer over the top of the other thinking this was were I would see the error, No. It lays and matches fine on paper, weird or what. So now I am left to think it must be the tension of the particular stitch I used, certainly I used the same type of silk thread for each piece, so I am off to ask some more questions of the more experienced lacemakers. After a few minutes calm reflection I decided that I could make two more lots of lace, one to match each of the ready made pieces so would end up with two garters, each working as they should.I have been able to lay the edge of my hand inside the loop and just pull it down very gently and it comes down further, but not yet matching. The redeaming factor is that it is the same amount of lace and the nature of it is to gather it up with elastic and ribbon, so hopefully it will be fine. They have already given me some very good advice about not making it up until a couple of weeks before the bride is going to wear it because of the effect on the lace, how to store it etc as well as ideas of personal decoration for specific brides. Charms with meaning for the bride:-)Ideas were bell ringer, bobbin lacemaker there are tiny bells and earring size bobbins, so also there will be many charms that might fit specific brides, g. nice idea. So tonight I am going to begin preparing to make the small cat piece and give the garter a rest, :-( I had hoped I was done. Sue T Dorset UK www.hurwitzend.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Fw: [lace] Begin and End/Garter charms
I think I better start keeping my eyes peeled for little charms that might just come in for someone. Mind you I think I might stick to things that wont look like sci fi ideas in 30 years time, g. Just thinking of the changes in mobile phones in the last 10 years makes me smile, let alone in 30 plus. A friend told me this morning that she had a silver 6pence sewn into her garter and still has it today, over 30 years later. The garter I wore was borrowed from my sister, so I dont have that. Sue T The other question I now have is should I make up the garter with elastic and ribbon now, or leave it to within a given time scale of a wedding. ? I would leave out the elastic, because it can go bad during long storage. And I would leave out the ribbon till I knew the intended. It would be nice to have the _option_ to use the wedding colors, or the bride's favorite color, or some other personalization. -I dont think an iphone would be the right decoration, LOL. But perhaps a charm on one of those cell phone 'leashes', dangling from the bow? G Robin P. Los Angeles, California, USA robinl...@socal.rr.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Begin and End
Some fabulour information in this, some I would never have thought of. Thank you for this detail and I will save that for reading through at the time. Thank you so much for this. Sue T In message 00ae01cca843$e025ca70$aaabe00a@suescomputer, Sue hurwitz...@btinternet.com writes The other question I now have is should I make up the garter with elastic and ribbon now, or leave it to within a given time scale of a wedding. ? I've always arranged the bows so that the garter is worn with the join on the inside of the leg, out of sight, rather than tried to cover it. This means that if any last minute alterations need to be made to the close fitting or not. Until you know the bride who will wear it, and what her preferences are, it might be wise to wait. -- Jane Partridge - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Fw: Begin and End
2 years ago I worked a lace garter using my own design, with guttermann silk and it is sitting in my box waiting for the first bride. I loved the look and the feel of it, but have always been a little concerned about whether it would just flop and fold in half at the centre point along the line for the elastic and ribbon gathering. When checking out patterns on the internet recently I bought a new one that just grabbed my attention and I just had to have it, which showed two layers of lace. Once I received the new pattern I ignored the top layer and went on to rework the underlayer changing the heart shape fans for ordinary fans down the outside edges, honeycomb down the centre to take the elastic and ribbon and the rest in torchon grid. My top layer already had heart shape fans and I wanted the contrast. Buying the pattern was a good way of having a lesson in ideas and pattern making:-) I began the strip on a straight line across rather than the offset way with fans, diamonds and other pattern shapes, as there was no obvious places to disguise the threads at the end, thinking that at least I would hide that point by attaching ribbon and flower decoration. Can I ask what other arachnians would have done please? Sue T Dorset UK www.hurwitzend.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Fw: Begin and End
Thank you Joepie, hiding the join behind the ribbon bow was my intention on this occasion, it seemed the right thing to do. Other patterns especially when there is variety of blocks of pattern I usually dont keep it to a straight line. I hope the garter sits well under whatever dresses the brides of the future wear. The other question I now have is should I make up the garter with elastic and ribbon now, or leave it to within a given time scale of a wedding. ? I love the idea of the special things for special bride, sadly no lacemakers among them, and I dont think an iphone would be the right decoration, LOL. There is no particular bride in mind or in sight at the moment. I did buy a cheap imported garter a couple of years ago, because it came in a box (which I am going to use for this one). Any useful tips would be appreciated. I do have some acid free tissue to wrap around the lace itself. Sue T Hi Sue and Arachnids, Beginnings and endings in lace are always a problem as we only do one of each on a piece of continuous lace. In the case of a garter I would hide the start/finish with a ribbon/bow and maybe something that is special to the bride, i.e. a couple of small light-weight bells for a bell-ringer or couple of doll's size lace bobbins for a lace-maker etc. I like the idea of a double garter, but be careful that it is not too thick and shows through the dress, especially with some brides' penchant for ultra slim dresses. Joepie, East Sussex. UK From: Sue 2 years ago I worked a lace garter using my own design, . ..I began the strip on a straight line across rather than the offset way with fans, diamonds and other pattern shapes, as there was no obvious places to disguise the threads at the end, thinking that at least I would hide that point by attaching ribbon and flower decoration. Can I ask what other arachnians would have done please? Sue T Dorset UK www.hurwitzend.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Lace projects for children
try: http://www.lokk.nl/ Sue sueba...@comcast.net -Original Message- From: Janice Blair Do you have a link for LOKK. I did a search and came up with nothing lacey. Janice - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Floral Bucks book update
Brilliant book and brilliant results, Jean. Thank you. Sue. Cornwall.UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] re Circular grids
Thank you Arachnids for the helpful suggestions and explanations, I have the feeling that I have forgotten to respond to one of them, but have deleted the original email now. So if I haven't individually thanked you for your help I apologise and am grateful. Sue T Dorset UK www.hurwitzend.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Bedfordshire Lace Book
Hello fellow arachnids My copy of Reiko Tamura's Beds book has arrived this morning!! (Thanks Pat!!!) I will say it's got 30 beautiful Beds yardage prickings in it, along with black and white photos and a 'flow chart' of what's happening with the threads!Reiko does state that she drew the diagrams following the original photos from the Lace Guilds CD, she has added some small changes and is sure there are alternative ways to work! The prickings are all enlarged from the originals to give students some comfort in working them (I would also imagine it could be difficult to get hold of the finer threads), however all are worked in Egyptian 36/2 with Perle 8 for the gimps! So girls boys, if you like lace books, making lace, helping charities, and, like me, adore the 'crunchiness' of Bedfordshire laces... then it's definitely the book for you!! Now I'll have to take it to lace class tonight, so that Maureen, Agnes the rest of the crew can see it!!! VBG Sue in East Yorkshire - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] circlular grids and threads
Several years ago I tried to make two little circular pieces of lace trim (not a complete mat) to fit inside two candleholder bases, like the ufo. My design idea was difficult to work, with my limited lacemaking and designing ability at that time and worse because it had to be a circular piece. So since then it has been left as a thing in my mind and two candle holders waiting to be used and I want to go back to them. Yesterday I opened up the lace 2000 with the polar grid, reading and following the instructions carefully and achieved a rainbow arc of pattern, on the exercise, so at last I understand what I am meant to do. Moving it down low enough and with the right design idea though is a whole new thing. So I contacted Ruth and have her ideas and information, but it sent me back to the paper and grid book I bought this summer from the british lace guild. I have printed out 4 separate sizes from the front of the book and am going to doodle a bit and see what ideas I can come up with to fit the bill, but then I started wondering how you decide what size thread to use with them, or even how much you might reduce the grid and pattern to suit a particular thread. I understand the working out using Brendas book at the beginning but with straight patterns on the footside. Is there a similar way to decide and choose grid or thread sizes for circular lace? Sue T Dorset UK www.hurwitzend.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Bedfordshire Lace Book
Oops... I forgot to say that didn't I?? The postage was less than expected as well! BTW Jacqui, we may come and bop you if you don't think about coming to our Lace Day a week on Saturday!!! LOL Sue in East Yorkshire On 3 Nov 2011, at 12:53, laceandb...@aol.com wrote: I would add that especially *as it's for charity* (a very good cause) and it's not that expensive anyway, I hope that anyone who sees it and falls in love with it as Sue has done, will buy their own copy, and not be mean and ask their friend for a copy of just that one pattern. (By the way, I am not implying that any of the Yorkshire ladies would do that; they might drive south one county and bop me on the nose!! But we all know it does happen in other places.) Jacquie in Lincolnshire - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Diagrams
Hi All, Hear, hear Clay!! I could not agree with you more about using diagrams while making Binche!! In fact I go further, one pin in the lace - pin in the same place on the diagram. I use map pins and have a colour coding of my own that I use. Green for a finished pin, yellow where there is a thread waiting for its mate to catch up and red for where I have to start next time I pick up my pillow!! No way do I regard it as cheating, its absolutely necessary for me. If I don't touch my lace for a week or two I could not pick it up again so quickly without my colour coded board!! I was so pleased to see Avital post a message asking people to cut the old messages when replying to a topic. Some of the recent ones have been incredibly long and when long replies follow long replies, well its just mind blowing!! I do hope there is no serious idea about moving Arachne from its current platform. I for one would not join if it was on Facebook or anything like that! It is possible to send pictures that you want to share with Arachne to a specially set up place (can't remember the details, but they are available!!) So what would be the point of moving it anyway!! Sue Fink In Masterton, New Zealand, where we have had some lovely sunny warm days recently (Sorry about the snow in America!!) - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Updated web site
Good morning all, Just thought I would let you know that Ben Archer of A R Archer Ltd has updated his website. Very fresh and pretty and gorgeous bobbins of course. No relation just an admirer of his great skills and beautiful work. Sue. Cornwall UK. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] tulle lace
Thank you very much for this link, I just spent an enjoyable few minutes looking through some of the pictures. Some beautiful lace and I got hooked on the simplicity of the look of the 1920's? perhaps images of the young ladies. Very clever execution of the pieces. Lovely and the hands that display the lace fans are just beautiful. Sue T Dorset UK Here is an embroidered net fan in color: https://picasaweb.google.com/105906042417998482336/OLIVAVALENCIA301O2011?feat =content_notification#5669409201921053090 Lorelei - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Ning software
I like Judith Holroyd's picture! It's worth going to the site just to see what she put up as her ID!! http://needlelacetalk.ning.com Sue sueba...@comcast.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] New Beds book (Shorter!)
Hi All Whoever put that it's sold in the UK just cost me... LOL I've ordered it!! Yes Maureen Agnes, I will show you it when it arrives!!! Sue in East Yorkshire - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Binche
Hi Clay, I have tried to send this message directly to Clay, but it has bounced back twice now!! Sometimes ISPs just don't want to communicate!! So apologies for sending it to Arachne!! Many thanks for your reply to my post on Arachne. I too use insect pins and have started putting in support pins on occasion. I think your idea of painting the head of the support pins red is BRILLIANT!! I will have to get out the red paint too!! Sincerely, Sue Fink Masterton, New Zealand - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Happy Birthday
Happy Birthday Avital!! Incidentally, I've heard from the supplier that the Beds book that Leonard mentioned in his posts is on its way!! (Thanks for letting me know Pat) Can't wait!! I do agree with Noelene we do not need excuses to need lace books! VBG Sue in East Yorks - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] IOWA lace makers wanted!
Hi Iowa lacemakers Please could one (or more!) of you contact JJ â see messages below Sue sueba...@comcast.net From: c s Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 10:08 PM To: Sue Babbs Subject: Re: [lace] learning diagrams I am 125 miles from there, but when do they meet? I am50 miles from waterloo, hoping there was something there or in mason city. On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Sue Babbs sueba...@comcast.net wrote: JJ Are you in the Cedar Rapids area? If so they have a thriving lace guild - the Doris Southard lace guild -Original Message- From: c s cskn...@gmail.com I'm in Iowa. -Original Message- Hi, i am really new to bobbin lace, where can I find how to learn the diagrams? I bought a couple of books, but don't understand how to do anything unless there is a pricking with step by step instructions. i would like to be able to look at a pricking and have an idea what to do. thanks JJ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] learning diagrams
JJ Are you in the Cedar Rapids area? If so they have a thriving lace guild - the Doris Southard lace guild Sue (in Illinois, but 4 hours from Cedar Rapids) sueba...@comcast.net -Original Message- From: Vicki Bradford Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 8:30 PM To: cskn...@gmail.com ; lace@arachne.com Subject: Re: [lace] learning diagrams Are there any of you in Iowa who could help JJ? Sorry...I've forgotten who is in that area)-: Vicki in Maryland -Original Message- From: c s cskn...@gmail.com I'm in Iowa. On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Vicki Bradford lt;twohappyb...@aol.comgt; wrote: Hi JJ, Where do you live? A one-on-one session might help you a great deal...! Reading diagrams is something that comes after learning the basics and then working some repetitive lace. You can relate to a diagram more easily when you are looking at the lace on your pillow and where you are. (You know...the old 'practice makes perfect' deal(-:) Vicki in Maryland -Original Message- Hi, i am really new to bobbin lace, where can I find how to learn the diagrams? I bought a couple of books, but don't understand how to do anything unless there is a pricking with step by step instructions. i would like to be able to look at a pricking and have an idea what to do. thanks JJ - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Fw: [lace] Lace classes
I have been taught by a variety of tutors (not speaking about lace here) and felt that they are probably good at their subject but no good at teaching. Others just can teach, On here we hear the praise and the joy that comes across from so many people who have attended classes with people who do teach lace, and come away an understanding of a new type.Word or mouth is an excellent recommendation of finding a good lace teacher (or any other kind come to that:-) Sue T From: Lyn Bailey lynrbai...@desupernet.net Thus a lace teacher really should not do things calculated to alienate her students. One of the things that really annoys me is that many people think that they can teach or train people and over the years I have seen some terrible results. I know that George Bernard Shaw (who on every other occasion was an excellent person apart from this one) said that 'those who can do and those who can't teach'. If you have an ability to connect with your student and you can be passionate about your craft then you should help people when they need it and you should teach. So, GBS - Well I can teach, so I do Kind Regards Liz Baker thelace...@btinternet.com - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Imperfect lace
So that's where Maureen gets it from!!! I usually take it out, but not always Sue in East Yorks On 30 Oct 2011, at 06:14, Alex Stillwell wrote: Hi Arachnids When I was in a workshop learning Honiton lace from Lauretta Clark I did something looked not quite right. I asked if I should take it out and she said 'Can you live with it?'. I took mine out and remade the section. I now use this answer myself, then my students can choose for themselves, if they can live with mistakes in the work it's their lace. After all, we make lace for the enjoyment of making it, not as a penance. Happy lacemaking (with or without mistakes) Alex - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Lace classes
Just before my lessons stopped I began learning to make Flanders lace and worked a couple of strips of the different ground. After I took the pins out I found an error but by then I was at the bottom and had been cutting it off. I have left that in my folder to remind myself of how to work it or how an error looks, but then went onto make a second piece, error free:-) I also have left the first 3 really loose and horrible bits of ws tape and half stitch tape and have shown that or pictures of it to a couple of people who made similar remarks about them never being able to make lace as pretty as they see my later pieces. One lady has gone on to make better lace than she imagined, so it did help her get over the feeling of cant do. As mentioned in another email, I am not a teacher, but was able to help two other ladies see another way of learning (the map style), rather than her masses of notes that made now sense when she tried to understand it. She started learning before me and never got beyond the stuff I was doing in my second year, partly because of that and partly because she was only ever able to spare the 2 hours weekly at the lesson time. I did help a bit and her friend had a light bulb moment when I explained how I had got round a certain situation. Sadly out of 15 people attending the class I did I only know of me still working it. Most of the others I have met up with have stopped, one going on to just do quilting. Certainly Arachne has been a huge help in helping me with particular ideas or sticking points (although i would have been working lace anyway), you all just helped improve it and I love the ideas and info that gets thrashed out around the world. Long may it continue. Sue T Dorset UK Sometimes you have to live with an inperfect sample as long as the planned piece is perfect. After all, there is no point in keep undoing a sample and being put off for ever. It is a case of a 'happy medium' and I would rather have lacemakers making lace than lose them (after all they are only making for themselves and they need to enjoy their craft). You can gently ease them into making better quality work as they progress and gain experience. The old saying of 'practice makes perfect' goes a long way. I personally have a piece of lace which was made in the first couple of years of my lacemaking which is absolutely terrible.I keep it and show it to people who say that they could never do anything as well as the later pieces. It works every time. Maureen E Yorks - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Lace classes
When the pupil won't wear the glasses she needs to see the lace (even though they have been prescribed for her, and she owns them) and won't practise between lessons (so that she can remember what the three basic stitches are) then it is no longer the teacher's fault, however willing the student declares herself to be!!! It was several months with this student, before I discovered that she couldn't actually see the lace stitches! She drove the other pupils in the class round the bend, as well as me, and I reluctantly had to suggest to her that I was not able to teach her and she should leave the class. Sue sueba...@comcast.net -Original Message- - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] WIP
I am 3/4 complete with a coaster torchon square of lace in red guttermann silk for a friend which is my last gift for this years Christmas/holiday season. (Of course I might just be tempted to try some other small pieces for ourselves this year having bought several patterns recently which I haven't used yet:-)I started working on them in August and a number of people wanted to wash my mouth out with soap, grin when they asked me what I was doing, LOL.I hate to be under pressure and we never know what might appear on the horizon to change our plans, so I found it better to get going early. Also, (between these gifts), I have been working a strip of garter lace and am just over the half way mark. Sue T Dorset UK www.hurwitzend.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Lace classes
Love it Joy!!! So... does this mean that if the gorblach doesn't look perfect (which, of course, we know it will) one can always' callifudge' as Maureen on this list would say LOL And please can you explain how to frammis the wilberstan?? Sue On 28 Oct 2011, at 14:46, Joy Beeson wrote: On 10/26/11 10:59 AM, Bob Ross wrote: There are two ladies in town with way more experience then me so I'm may just suggest the weavers contact them. You might be the better teacher, because you remember what's hard and what you did about it. We experienced workers tend to say things like All you have to do is to frammis the wilberstan. [flutters fingers randomly, perfectly- frammised wilberstan appears] And then you gorblach . . . - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] what are you doing...
Evening all Well I would answer this question but it depends on which pillow I have a beginner piece of honiton on the smallest pillow, a piece of 'christmas' lace on the next one up, a bedfordshire motif with gimps, rolled tallies, a nine pin edge and leaves on a third pillow which was started with Christine back in May, and another piece of beds on a 4th pillow which I started with Christine 18 months ago!! Now while the 2 beds pieces and the honiton sunflower have been residing on their respective pillows, I've finished a lace garter for my daughters wedding which was in september, and another piece of christmas lace so I could see how the pattern turned corners!! One day I will get them all finished, but there will always be at least two or three things on the go!!! Sue in EY - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace-chat] Fw: Fwd: : Driver's Licence - - - Ladies hold on to your drivers licence!
A mother is driving her little girl to her friend's house for a play date.. 'Mommy,'the little girl asks, 'how old are you?' 'Honey, you are not supposed to ask a lady her age,' the mother replied. 'It's not polite.' 'OK', the little girl says, 'How much do you weigh?' 'Now really,' the mother says, 'those are personal questions and are really none of your business.' Undaunted, the little girl asks,'Why did you and Daddy get a divorce?' 'That's enough questions, young lady! Honestly!' The exasperated mother walks away as the two friends begin to play. 'My Mom won't tell me anything about her,' the little girl says to her friend. 'Well,' says the friend, 'all you need to do is look at her driver's licence. It's like a report card, it has everything on it.' Later that night the little girl says to her mother, 'I know how old you are. You are 32.' The mother is surprised and asks, 'How did you find that out? 'I also know that you weigh 130 pounds.' The mother is past surprised and shocked now. 'How in Heaven's name did you find that out?' 'And,' the little girl says triumphantly, 'I know why you and daddy got a divorce.' 'Oh really?' the mother asks.'Why?' 'Because you got an F in sex.' To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] New to the list
I don't know what the local guild is, but I do know that Clay Blackwell organizes the most wonderful lacemaking week at Sweet Briar College, Lynchburg each summer. I'm sure Clay will be in touch with you to tell you more Sue sueba...@comcast.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Re the Glue or not to glue question
Thank you all, I got several different views on this Glue or not to glue, so in the end I made a loop of the Gold Rush thread then put a dab of Fray Stop on the knot and also just run some along the side of the thread and its back hanging from a hook, with some weight on the bottom end to see if it wall affect it adversally. It looks fine so far, so will check out the colour to see if that is changing and maybe experiment with other glues before I need to get my pieces packed and sent to my sisters around the country. As I have already got pva glue and the fray stop I tried one and will check out the other one as well before I bother buying more types. I dont use it very often, so dont want lots of different types drying up around the place. It is always fascinating reading all the replies, so thank you all. Sue T Dorset UK www.hurwitzend.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Re: demonstrating lace/NY (SWAT team logo)
Hi Jolene Welcome to Arachne - and thanks for posting. Your suggestion re art schools is great, and I would also suggest that the textile and theatre costume departments of colleges and universities would also be interested in demonstrations. Feel free to post questions / thoughts as they come up. Normally we just reply to lace@arachne.com (for lace related topics) and only reply to the individual who has posted if we want to chat privately with them. We also have Arachne-chat for non-lace related subjects, though that is much quieter than it used to be Sue sueba...@comcast.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] to Glue or not to glue?
I have been using a worker pair of gold rush on a bangle decoration for our tree, at the end I have tied it off, then created a long loop with the thread to hang onto the branch, ending with a knot and then knotted it again over the top. It looks tidy enough, but I am wondering if I ought to put a dab of pva glue to stop it fraying. At the moment I still have a couple of inches spare thread after the knot as I haven't yet trimmed it close to the knot. Any thoughts please. This is the first time I have used this particularly thread and dont want it to fall off my tree in the future Sue T Dorset UK www.hurwitzend.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Inspiration
I think I also recall people on this list talking about a book /video in the Madeline series about lacemaking. Sue sueba...@comcast.net On 20/10/11 11:04 AM, dmt11h...@aol.com wrote: You might suggest the Children's librarian put out The Lace Snail by Betsy Byers. Devon - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Re: Ring Sizer
I think it was a typo, and should have read lace Sue sueba...@comcast.net -Original Message- From: Susan Reishus Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 8:07 AM To: Arachne Lace Subject: [lace] Re: Ring Sizer I am not familiar with the term lade. Can you explain please? TIA, Susan Reishus - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Needle Tatting - request for resources
I slso cant manage shuttle tatting due to hands and shoulder problems, so found the Barbara Foster book helped enough to actually achieve a 30 year ambition to learn tatting. I have made several small motifs and have promised myself some time to get back to it and work some more at it to see if I can get it to stay in my brain so I can take tatting out and about to work on without having to cart the book and start from the beginning each time. I am nearly done with my christmas lace (except that I have fallen in love with one of the pieces I have done and want several to hang on my door lace curtain this year:-) but they are quick to make. So if I can do it Chris, so can you grin. Sue T Dorset UK I had problems with shuttle tatting, so I purchased, Learn Needle Tatting Step by Step by Barbara Foster. Still available on Amazon. Used should be fine. Only book I'm aware of for the skill. After that, regular tatting books, especially charted ones, where no problem to needle tat. I understand there are very fancy things that can be done with a shuttle, which might not be doable with a needle for tatting, but there is so much to do with needle tatting I noticed no problem. Lyn in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, US, at the end of another beautiful fall day. I could get used to this. -Original Message- From: Chris Brill-PackardHello, I have an new member to the Western Reserve Lace Society who is interested in learning Needle Tatting. We do have one member who will be able to assist her with her skills. I was wondering if any of you have any good recommendations for DVD or books for reference learning with sources for purchase? I have never researched tatting so I am a little out of my league. Thank you all in advance for any and all suggestions. Chris Brill-Packard - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Webshots and new pictures
Thank you Janice, I did manage to add the tree I did using your pattern to my folder and then tackled getting Daphnes Pendant onto her folder. this way is not as user friendly as the other one and I cant rearrange things to get the new piece easier seen, so her request is does anyone know what this is,? It has lace inside and she wondered if it might be a mourning piece. So any ideas please from you folks, Daphne would love to hear. Sue T I have added three photos to the Webshots page and had no problem with them. If you click on each picture they will enlarge. This link should go to the second page of my album. http://community.webshots.com/album/149126673AmIpMo?start=12 One is the Halloween cat and the others are my winning entries at IOLI convention. Janice Janice Blair Crystal Lake, 50 miles northwest of Chicago, Illinois, USA www.jblace.com http://www.lacemakersofillinois.org - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Ring Sizer
A few weeks ago there was a photo somewhere on the list regarding a lacemaking tool. I think i've just found it!! http://www.spangles4beads.co.uk/Pages_Supplies/FrameSuppliesIntro.html Go down to wooden ring sizer!! Sue in East yorks - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace]
I have also been into the webshots to check it out and upload but its completely different and nothing happening. thumbnails in a long line on black background and even clicking on that changes nothing. I noticed under each photo a small link saying delete this picture, so we have to be careful of loosing what it there, but so far haven't been able to click on and bring any picture up to its full size. Sue T Daphne wrote. Hello everyone I have been trying to upload a picture of a pendant which I was going to ask if anyone knows what it is. It is a teardrop shape with black lace inside. Its all changed since the last time I uploaded the MP3 case. Any ideas very welcome. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Fw: [lace] webshots
I should also have said that they seem to be trying to encourage people to pay to upgrade, is this right? Sue T - Original Message - I have also been into the webshots to check it out and upload but its completely different and nothing happening. thumbnails in a long line on black background and even clicking on that changes nothing. I noticed under each photo a small link saying delete this picture, so we have to be careful of loosing what it there, but so far haven't been able to click on and bring any picture up to its full size. Sue T Daphne wrote. Hello everyone I have been trying to upload a picture of a pendant which I was going to ask if anyone knows what it is. It is a teardrop shape with black lace inside. Its all changed since the last time I uploaded the MP3 case. Any ideas very welcome. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Spreading the word
You know it's odd that statement Today I attended Pudsey Lace Fair, Jane Partridge was there and we ended up chatting about lace (now I wonder why LOL) anyway, one item we were discussing was how many ways one can wear the lace from a tiara it could be worn as cuffs on a tshirt for instance. Tiny motifs can be made into brooches, earrings, pendants etc, and you don't have to worry about it going through the washing machine!! You can stitch it onto hankies, tshirt fronts, shirts etc... Once we have the thought that lace can be worn, the ideas are as large as our imagination. Try giving it to a friend, young relation, old relation anyone who has ever expressed an interest in lace... tell them about your closest teacher... We may revive this hobby yet!! Sue in East Yorkshire On 15 Oct 2011, at 23:04, Lyn Bailey wrote: Wear lace. That way you can talk about it. Whoâs writing the book on lace on T-shirts? - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Demise of suppliers
Haha Jean I love the bit about the only thing you need... Reminds me of the start of my daughters shoe fetish 3 years old and saw red leather fur lined boots in a local shop. The conversation went along the lines of I want those boots... I want never gets... says I. madam waited till Grandma came Can we go to shops Grandma?, of course Grandma says yes... Madam shows Grandma the boots Grandma I NEED those boots to keep my toes nice and warm, guess who bought the boots (BTW, Kyra is now 25 and owns around 200 pairs of boots or shoes...) Now are you sure you got the Need and Want the right way round??? Sue in East Yorks On 14 Oct 2011, at 08:07, Jean Nathan wrote: One of the problems is that once you've got your basic pillow, sufficient bobbins and (usually too many) books (for you to complete everything in it you want to), really the only thing you NEED is thread. And that won't keep a supplier in business. They rely, not only on newbies, but those of us who already have the basic supplies WANTING extra pillows, patterns, books, bobbins and other equipment .. The there's the question are there sufficient young people taking up the craft and buying the supplies to replace those of us in our dotage who will eventually give up because we can no longer cope or go to join other lacemakers on a cloud. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003 - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] blood on lace
I would definately have to go this way with the salt as I dont have any natural saliva, Sjogrens Syndrome has killed off my saliva glands, so I am very careful of covering fingers if I split the skin in anyway. I did get some on a lacy undergarment recently but didn't find out until I went to put it on 'clean' and dry a week or more later. Is there someway to get rid of it now? It is commercial lace, not handmade. Sue T Dorset UK A very old fashion remedy for this problem comes from my late great Victorian era aunt Ina, soak item whether it be of cotton or linen content in cold highly salted water. Has worked wonders for as long as I can remember. Margeret from a beautiful warm, picture postcard autumn day in the Georgian Bay area of Ontario, Canada. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Re: re salt
The blood went on while it was on a wash rack. It is in the wash basket now but hasn't yet been rewashed and I dont use a dryer or iron, so it should be fine to give it a go. Many thanks. Sue T Hello Sue: If the machine made lace has not been pressed, there is a 50% chance that the salt/cold water should work. If the lace has been ironed, the stain may have been set. The only other option would be to have the article dry cleaned. Good luck. Another beautiful Thanksgiving Daygold and red tree leaves, warm breezes and lots of sunshine. happy lacing, Margeret. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Raffle result
Oh my goodness, I never win anything and have been trying to find this chart for some time. Thank you very much for your kindness and generosity, Jean, and I am tickled pink with this news. All the best, Sue. Cornwall. UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Wooden implement question
So am I the only person that would use a ruler LOL Sue in EY On 7 Oct 2011, at 09:25, Brenda Paternoster wrote: No, the big knobs on the ends would get in the way. All I use is a piece of paper with two parallel line (computer printed for accuracy) drawn on it. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Vermeer's paintings
On our local news tonight they showed Vermeer's painting The Lacemaker to publicise the exhibition of Vermeer's paintings being held at the Fitzwilliam Museum in Cambridge. It is called Vermeer's Women :Secrets and Silence and will be on from Oct 5th 2011 until 15th Jan 2012 and its free admission . This is a MUST for me and I will be booking a train to Cambridge as soon as possible. Sue M Harvey Norfolk UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace-chat] Vermeer's paintings
On our local news tonight they showed Vermeer's painting The Lacemaker to publicise the exhibition of Vermeer's paintings being held at the Fitzwilliam Museum in Cambridge. It is called Vermeer's Women :Secrets and Silence and will be on from Oct 5th 2011 until 15th Jan 2012 and its free admission . This is a MUST for me and I will be booking a train to Cambridge as soon as possible. Sue M Harvey Norfolk UK To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
RE: [lace] Re:demo question
I have a tatting needle, its 5 long and purchased from Roseground supplies, my friend Daphne swears it is easy to use and is fast but I struggle to get the hang of it, practice makes perfect (or so they say) Sue M Harvey Norfolk UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Ebaying
I buy and sell on Ebay and I have always found it great fun and it has put me in touch with lacemakers all over the world, some of whom have become firm friends. No one is forced to buy anything at any price. I sold all my sister's lace books for her last year as she no longer wanted them. People bought whatever they wanted and they decided the final price. Why should people like us who bought their books when they were published, usually at considerable expense, (we didn't use photocopies passed around from one to another in lace groups), be penalised for selling on our property when we are ready to do so? If you Ebay properly, and I mean properly - taking it seriously, there is quite a lot of work involved for the return you get. People are buying unseen so I feel it is a matter of great trust between both parties for a start and I would never want an upset or unhappy buyer; what would be the point? I have a one hundred percent positive feedback score over many transactions which I am very proud of and the only bidding done on my listings is by people who want to do so. Not every seller on Ebay is out to do people down and believe me you can get some mighty peculiar buyers at times! Like the lady who bid the price up and up to get a bundle of bobbins, out bidding genuine buyers and then turned round at the end of the auction saying she had made a mistake and wasn't going to pay And she didn't! That sort of thing really upsets and stays with you for ages. Authors write and publish their books for their own good reasons and to our benefit if we wish to learn or use their designs but the deal made with their publishers is their business and not the reader's. Unless you are a budding J K Rowling I doubt many fortunes are made writing the sort of books we lacemakers buy. An author of my acquiantance once told me of the pittance she was paid for her books which sold very well indeed.There has, and I suspect until ebooks take over, always will be a secondhand book market for us to enjoy. Ebay just takes it to a global basis. Some authors publish their own work and cut out the middle man and who would blame them for that if they have the expertise. Not long ago I requested on Arachne for a book I was deserate to get hold of but didn't think it would happen as it was a low print run and many others were looking too if the replies I got where anything to go by. However one lovely lady who had a copy offered it to me. We agreed a price suitable to both of us, merited by the book's rarity, and I think were both satisfied with our transaction and I was very happy that she had been so kind to me. Books are a saleable commodity like any other. In the future I might well be selling my own large library and even my larger collection of lace bobbins and it will be up to lacemakers across the world to decide if they sell or not. I will merely provide an opportunity for them to purchase something they really want to own and hopefully get a return from my investment in lacemaking over a long number of years. Lacemakers I have always found are very acquisitive people!!! Do your cupboards, book shelves and rooms not groan under the weight of your lacemaking equipment? If you have never tried selling on Ebay give it a go, learn how to do it and see how much fun you can have, how many wonderful people you get to have contact with and the pitfalls there can be too. Best wishes, Sue. UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Tambour Hooks for Coggeshall lace, and a 3rd hand for weavers knots.
Sorry folks, I seriously misremembered that one! It's nearly 20 years since I did the required tambour lacemaking for City and Guilds, and I was sure I remembered the hook having a latch. When Jacqui mentioned it, I recalled the twist motion to get the hook back out of the work, which wouldn't be needed with a latch. I got the hooks out to check, and they don't have a latch but instead a more serious barb than a fine crochet hook. You can guess I didn't really take to tambouring! Sue sueba...@comcast.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] French roller pillow roller
Before making a roller with them, I would suggest trying to stick a pin into a few taut layers of them, and seeing if it goes in easily, and holds its position well Sue sueba...@comcast.net -Original Message- From: Lora Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 8:14 AM We have quite a few of those old acrylic wool blankets (remember how scratchy they were?) That are well washed and a bit ratty now, I wonder how they would fare as padding for a roller - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] amounts of thread
I know this comes up time and again, but I am currently preparing 42 pairs of bobbins to do a strip of lace and am unsure if I need put quite as much thread onto each pair as I am. Almost all of the lace in this piece is just torchon ground, with fans along both the edges (where I will obviously need much more thread and will fill the bobbins up), but the rest is about 36 inches of ground and have been putting approx 12 feet of thread onto each of the bobbins. As I am using gutterman silk it is taking lots of thread.OK, I know I can use up excess thread on other pieces of lace afterwards, but lots of times I want other threads for the next pieces and dont want so many bobbins left holding thread indefinately. Am I going overboard with the amounts, or is this the sensible amount? Advice please. Sue T Dorset UK www.hurwitzend.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Other laces
A friend came across a second hand book mentioning lacemaking and bought it for me recently which was nice but when she handed it over it is Tambour lace. I had heard the name but didn't know anything about it so checked out some youtube videos, (what a fabulous resourse that is). I was able to see what it was and how it was done. Of course I dont have a tambour hook, but might manage to use a small crochet hook to have a play at it in the future. Due to sudden family illness and also as I am currently working on holiday present pieces I haven't done anymore with the book. So many years I spent with time on my hands just knitting and crochet when I could have been learning all these lovely techniques with more years ahead of me to use them. grin Sue T Dorset UK www.hurwitzend.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] amounts of thread
I never put knots into the lace (only when having to tie off). I know the approx length of my arms outstretched and pull off using that measure x however many I think needed (or two thirds for smaller things), Lots of lace has multiple workers for diamonds, trails and things like that, but this is literally just torchon ground with the fans running up the sides. I never count turns of thread:-) I cant retain the info long enough, LOL. I have to check sometimes if I am on the second stretch of arms or third as I can loose track of that also during a batch of bobbins.I dont mind the two bobbins not having quite the same amount of thread as I like to add single bobbins if needed but not more than one at a time. Anyway thank you David for your input. Sue T Dorset UK David Wrote As a rule I put 4 times the length of the pricking, but still often do too much. However, I would never knot an added thread - simply work double for a few centimeters. That doesn't show either. One thing I was thinking about today as I wound 100 pairs: are we all obsessive counters or is it just me? After I've wound the first pair I will know how many turns to make - today it was 120. But when I wind the second bobbin of the pair I still count it every time, just to see how accurate I was in pulling the right amount of thread off the reel. I can't stop - just HAVE to count. David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Re: Tambour Hook (was Other Laces)
The easiest way to describe the tambour hook is to think of it as a miniature rug hook i.e. the flap closes as you pull the hook back through the net. Sue sueba...@comcast.net - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace-chat] Other laces
A friend came across a second hand book mentioning lacemaking and bought it for me recently which was nice but when she handed it over it is Tambour lace. I had heard the name but didn't know anything about it so checked out some youtube videos, (what a fabulous resourse that is). I was able to see what it was and how it was done. Of course I dont have a tambour hook, but might manage to use a small crochet hook to have a play at it in the future. Due to sudden family illness and also as I am currently working on holiday present pieces I haven't done anymore with the book. So many years I spent with time on my hands just knitting and crochet when I could have been learning all these lovely techniques with more years ahead of me to use them. grin Sue T Dorset UK www.hurwitzend.co.uk To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] washing lace
Having read the current thread about washing and pressing lace, I got motivated again, to repress the two hankies I recently completed. I had steam pressed them after I finished sewing but photos showed up new hankies looking like old hankies, with creases etc. So I just bought a new iron, checked it out and then wet the cotton and repressed them and they look much better. It is always good to read and then re read things said on these subjects from time to time as it reminds folk like me. So please dont think we have all heard them too many times before. grin. thanks folks, they look much better. Sue T Dorset UK It is not common practice to wash lace until it is necessary. If the item is only a few inches across it can be placed on a sheet of polstyrene and pinned to it through all the pinholes around the edge - like blocking out. (Check that your pins are not affected by the washing agent by leaving some pins in it for a few days). Place face down into the water containing a suitable cleaning agent and left to soak, you can even boil it if the lace is cotton or linen. Polystyrene is not affected by boiling water. When clean rinse under a tap or use de-ionised water. Finally prop up the polystyrene so that the water drains off and allow to dry. When the pins are removed the lace should look like new. Best wishes Alex - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Willow Pattern Plate
A lovely looking piece of lace which I shouldn't have shown to my DH, g. Very unusual and very effective. Sue T Dorset UK Jean Nathan wrote I've finally finished my version of the Willow Pattern Plate designed by Jean Stacey (named 'Inspiration on a Plate' by her) which was featured in UK Lace Guild Magazine 'Lace' edition 128, October 2007 and have just uploaded to my Arachne Webshots album (Jean Nathan on the second page). The finished size is just short of A4. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Willow Pattern Plate
Thank you so much Bev for the do it the easy way link and thanks Daphne for your help too!! Grateful to you both because this is really beautiful. Congratulations Jean! I looked it up in Lace to see the pricking, isn't it amazing how you forget just what these magazines actually contain. All neatly filed and seldom looked at these days! I could find the webshots page but couldn't find the actual lace that I wanted to see. Obviously doing it wrong - again! Isn't it great that there is always someone here who can help you? Love and thanks, Sue. Cornwall. UK (Sunny, dry and very windy today). - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Willow Pattern Plate
Thanks to the kind help I received I have been able to see Jean's beautiful piece of work and am so glad I asked for help as it was well worth looking at. I loved the dark gimp which brought it to life. Many thanks, Sue. Cornwall. UK. - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] AHA!!! moments
So definitely an oops then David?? Sue in EY On 6 Sep 2011, at 15:07, David C COLLYER wrote: At 05:13 AM 6/09/2011, Nancy Neff wrote: How nice to hear of your AHA moment, I had a big AHAAA moment yesterday of a different kind when I cut the point ground while trimming off some ends. Mum would have rolled over in her grave if she'd heard me!! David in Ballarat - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Silk thread
Hi All I seem to remember that the old 'lace' crochet hooks used the same gauge as knitting needles which would make this size a 0.6mm hook Sue in East Yorkshire On 6 Sep 2011, at 10:57, Jean Nathan wrote: Boulton's indented crochet hook No.23 - who knows what modern size that is! - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace-chat] Postcards
Hello All Just remembered, (my excuse is the wedding preparations for Madams wedding), I forgot to post the postcards!! They're on their way tomorrow folks!! Sue To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Hastings
Surely Hastings is in Sussex (by the sea!!), not Kent! At least it was when I went there for a swimming competition in the 1950s!! Sue Fink Masterton, New Zealand - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] searching for a pattern
I am looking to find the pattern of the 3D bird which has wings that attach to the top and give it a lovely look. I have seen two of them made by fellow arachnids and one at the poole bobbin lace day so there is a pattern out there for it. Can anyone tell me where I might find it please. Sue T Dorset UK www.hurwitzend.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace-chat] Food sampling
Food sampling at Supermarket http://www.youtube.com/embed/-icgySC4e2c To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: Humour me here .... Re: [lace] Kat stitch
CT takes you back to the basics and is cross twist Sue sueba...@comcast.net As I tend to work from a pricking and picture to make lace I've forgotten what CT etc means and can't find it in any of my books. So guys, humour me and let me know. L Kind Regards Liz Baker thelace...@btinternet.com - - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: Humour me here .... Re: [lace] Kat stitch
Nancy Iâm sure that helps Liz work out her lace stitches enormously! : ) Sue sueba...@comcast.net Nah. Ignore her, Liz. Everyone knows CT stands for Connecticut. Nancy in Connecticut, USA _ CT takes you back to the basics and is cross twist - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] wedding hanky/baby bonnet
I am currently spending an amount of time on most days sewing around my lace to hanky but of course that now brings up another question for you good people. When completed, this one will be 12 inches square. What size would I need to turn a bridal hanky into a temporary baby bonnet in the future? is mine big enough? or will it just have to be a bridal hanky only? Hopefully the last question for this particular project is, How do I pack, store, present, this piece to either give to a bride to use and to keep, or to lend to various brides to borrow and return to me (apart from including a small packet of tissues with a note to tell them which to show and which to use to blow:-) I know to use acid free tissue, but folded, rolled, or how? perhaps to be loosely folded not crushed into a box!!! Sue T, with no experience of this. Sue T Dorset UK www.hurwitzend.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
[lace] Roller pillows
Thank you all so much for all the information about how you made up roller pillows. I am going to put all the info onto one word doc so I can print them out and read through and see what works best. I think I am going to try to cover the current new one a bit to protect is as much as I can but also consider making up another one which I can have thick wool for longer term. That way the end roller will definately fit the space in the travel bag. It will probably be slightly heavier than now, but not a problem I dont think. For now I will just do a temporary job to try out this little pattern (I need to learn and work at practising with the different type of pillow). Sue T Dorset UK Sue T Dorset UK www.hurwitzend.co.uk - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Got long hair?
I did that with a banyan tree's aerial roots in Old San Juan, Puerto Rico this spring! It was hard going as there weren't any bobbins to keep them in order as I worked! Sue sueba...@comcast.net -Original Message- From: David C COLLYER I recall back in the late 90s working on the aerial roots of a Monsteria deliciosa at Geelong's St. John of God Hospital. I simply plaited them using CT, CT all the way. I wonder what they look like now. They're in the little smoking garden on the ground floor if anyone wants to check - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] Sitting comfortably
This has been a very good conversation and interesting to read all the replies. Personal home space or lack of, plus age and any personal disability also has a huge amount to how and sometimes if we can make lace. So I also totally agree with the several comments of having to find out what works for yourself, but hearing what others do or dont do might very well help make small adjustments to what we do. Sue T Dorset UK One thing that has to be considered is if there are any personal physical considerations to take into account which make one way of sitting uncomfortable/comfortable. if I sit on an upright chair for too long I have difficulty getting up and walking. At home I sit in a higher than normal armchair made slightly higher with bed pillows under the seat cushion. Another pillow rests against the chair under my calves and knees and cushions at my back for support. The kneeling chair would be totally useless for me , kneeling is not advised and, in any case, it's like kneeling on a walnut. Very uncomfortable. You just have to find out what works for you. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
Re: [lace] How do you store your prickings?
I have to say that the storage of my prickings is not the best way so I spend quite a bit of time hunting for certain things but you email has made me think about it. Ever since I began making lace 10 years ago I have kept note books, one just has each piece with a number going up from number 1 to the current 482 or something. I write the name of the piece and/or the type and sometimes the colour in a one liner. Other books of which I now have 6, I write the same number and name etc, how many prs of bobbins used, what type of thread. Any particular notes about the piece that is relevant. Sometimes the name of who it was given to and also if I made an error, if I liked the piece or not. That bit is the easy record keeping and then I have lots of patterns stored in A4 plastic sleeves and into folders which could do with being differently arranged, but lack of space stops that:-) But using the book method if I were Jenny I could then go on to use the same numbering sequence and note the storage place. Box files with letters in the type of Lace or something like that. When making up a pattern I often try printing out at different sizes and keep the paper sheets together as well, so sometimes going through the files allows me a fresh look at what should stay and what should go. Of course I have made up a second pricking when I couldn't find the original :-) which obviously turns up soon after that:-) But its rare for me to throw a pricking away, Sue T but how to store it so I can find it later? Right now some are in plastic sleeve files - sorted on type ; length, cornered, christmas, mat etc some with my teaching notes some in the stack on the bookshelf some ... It is just not *organised* so when I am hunting for a pricking I can never find it until I remake the darn thing. putting a numbered sticker on each pricking and storing them numerically in bunches of 20 in suspension files in the filing cabinet - marking the original source (book, mag) in pencil with the pricking number Hugs Jenny Brandis Kununurra, Western Australia - To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com. Photo site: http://community.webshots.com/user/arachne2003
