Re: [lace-chat] Names
I was in attending a christening which was part of a Sunday service, where 5 or 6 babies were baptised. One of these infants (not the one I was attending for) got the 11 first names of the players in the Liverpool football team. What was even worse than having 11 names, is that 2 of the names were repeated! Regards Steph In Berlin, Germany -- Money can't buy everything. That's what credit cards are for. Steph Peters stepha...@sandbenders.demon.co.uk Tatting, lace stitching page http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachne.modera...@gmail.com.
Re: [lace-chat] Snapshot of my life
Lesley wrote: Lora wrote: Unfortunatly iplayer is region locked, even hotspot shield doesn't work against it (region masking) Ah, I didn't know that. I assumed it was available universally. Most of the radio output is available universally. It's all to do with copyright. The BBC either make their own radio programmes or commission other companies to make them, so the BBC holds the worldwide copyright and can choose where it is available. During 2009 the practice changed so almost all radio can be streamed live and almost all the iPlayer radio content is available without any region locking. TV however is different. If it is a bought in programme then the BBC will only have purchased UK rights so they cannot make it available elsewhere by any method. For programmes the BBC makes itself sale of broadcast rights in other countries is a lucrative source of income, especially 'first broadcast' so they do not make it available over iPlayer outside UK. However I can access and copy the source flash files and convert it to another file type for putting online, circumventing the region lock but the legality of that is a tad suspect ( I see it as not being a problem since it's free to watch anyway) This is breaking the copyright and is not legal; copyright does not depend on payment. The BBC output is not free since owners of TV sets (and other devices with TV tuners) have to pay an annual licence fee which goes to the BBC to fund it. Steph In Berlin, Germany To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com.
Re: [lace-chat] Aussie lifestyle
On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 22:15:26 -0500, Martha wrote: Tomato relish and chutney to me are chopped up bits of tomato/mango/whatever with spices and (in the case of chutney) ginger, etc. That's not ketchup - at least not American ketchup (known to some as catsup). That is a smooth, thickish tomato sauce the consistency of thick yoghurt. I make all my chutney for my curries, and would make tomato relish if we ate it, but nobody I ever heard of makes their own ketchup (though one could) - everybody buys it, I've never bothered making tomato ketchup, but I have made plum ketchup. It needs about 3 months to mature and then tastes really good. -- Money can't buy everything. That's what credit cards are for. Steph Peters stepha...@sandbenders.demon.co.uk Tatting, lace stitching page http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com.
Re: [lace-chat] Yoghurt making
On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:33:41 +1100, David wrote: All so complicated when it's oh so easy. Agreed. If you live in the tropics - or where the temperature is about 30C. Simply add a couple of tablespoons of plain yoghurt to a litre of milk which is at room temperature.. HOWEVER, if you live in a more temperate climate. Make the yoghurt exactly the same way, but turn your oven on to the lowest setting - about 100F, put yoghurt on bottom shelf, leave oven door open and cook for about 4 hours. No need for fancy pants yoghurt makers at all - the market got your there. No need for ovens and wasting money on power for it either. Get a vacuum flask, rinse it out with boiling water in order to sterilise it and warm it up, put warm milk in it with the plain yogurt, put the top on and next morning the yogurt is ready. If you make firm yogurt a wide mouthed flask is helpful. Steph In Berlin, where it is quiet after all the fall of the wall commemorations last week To unsubscribe send email to majord...@arachne.com containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat y...@address.here. For help, write to arachnemodera...@yahoo.com.
[lace-chat] Smoke alarm battery day
Today is annual change the batteries in your smoke alarms day. Well it is in my house at least. My husband came up with the clever idea of associating smoke alarms that prevent fire with bonfire night, which is today, 5 November, in UK. Bonfire night is a fun event with bonfires and fireworks. When I was a child we had one big bonfire with all the neighbours who had kids. The dads did the fireworks and bonfire, the mums provided food traditional to bonfire night like toffee apples, parkin and potatoes roasted in the bonfire and the kids made the guy to burn on the top of the bonfire. The guy is a figure made out of stuffed old clothes to represent Guy Fawkes, a Catholic who was convicted of attempting to blow up the Houses of Parliament, but was probably not the leader of the gunpowder plot. Instead of a somewhat gruesome commemoration of a rather ugly episode in British history join me in turning the occasion to good use: please check your smoke alarm batteries and change them if necessary. Steph Wishing safe celebrations for everyone To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Photo-sharing Question
On Sun, 11 May 2008 16:35:42 -0700, Helen wrote: His question is: We are keen to set up a web site where we can upload photos etc for invited people to view. Could you point us in the right direction? I think the key bit is 'invited people' so please ensure that such a privacy mechanism is available for any suggestions you may have. From my perspective, knowing what a bunch of Luddites my family (and therefore his) is, it also needs to be easy to a) set up, and b) use. Over to all you knowledgeable people :-) Adobe offer 2Gb of space per user on the web, for users of any type of computer. The space can be divided into folders with different login details which provides privacy. The advantage of this over Flicker etc. is that individual photos are not subject to a size limit, so it is a good way to share unedited originals. https://www.photoshop.com/express/landing.html -- Money can't buy everything. That's what credit cards are for. Steph Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tatting, lace stitching page http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: earthquake
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 07:30:09 -0800 (PST), Janice wrote: I was surprised to read in my morning local paper about an earthquake in England, but it did not give details of where. Then on the tv they showed somewhere in Norfolk. The newspaper report had a tag saying Manchester so I had assumed it was in the north. How much area of the country was affected? Well Manchester is a long way from the epicentre, but the earthquake was certainly heard and felt here. I thought for a moment that a car had veered off the road and hit my house. Steph in Manchester To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Knitting Mobius strips
On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 19:35:38 -0800 (PST), Janice wrote: Neat. I also liked the Knitting Update with Steph. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOETJSqKcBkfeature=related What is the name of the needle set you purchased and where did you get it from in the US? Knit Picks. http://www.knitpicks.com/needles/knitting+needles.html I would rather have bought from the UK distributor, but they were out of stock at the time. Now I'm wishing that the Harmony wooden needles were available as straights, since going back to metal needles after those is horrible. Had to go buy a bamboo pair to use on a short scarf with lots of balls of yarn in different colours, where the circulars get in the way. My friends were knitting the mobius scarves a few years ago but I could not get my head around it. Neither could I until I made them. -- Money can't buy everything. That's what credit cards are for. Steph Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tatting, lace stitching page http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: Question - London Marriages
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 21:35:10 -0500, Joy wrote: My totally uninformed guess is that these couples went to London to be married because it was the only chance they would ever have to see the big city. My parents took their honeymoon in London in 1955 because neither of them had previously had the chance to go there. -- Money can't buy everything. That's what credit cards are for. Steph Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tatting, lace stitching page http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: Champagne for one
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:31:28 +, Jane wrote: I can't say whether it was definitely Demon (our ISP) with problems yesterday - we didn't have time to put the computer on! But, with the news reports of all the sales, and umpteen million spent in on-line shopping sprees, I'm amazed the lot didn't grind to a halt! It was Demon, they were down late on Christmas Day and most of Boxing Day. Steph Who is a customer of the same ISP as the Lace Guild To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] PayPal (maybe) help?
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 21:56:47 -, Margery wrote: Can I write a cheque (on Barclays Bank) in dollars? Not unless you have a dollar account with Barclays, you can't do this on an account in pounds. If I write it in GBP, won't it cost her a lot in bank charges to get it exchanged? Probably. So what's the best way for me to get money to her, and to get the stuff from her to me? Just occasionally the Amazon gift certificate is a useful international currency - I have used it a couple of times. Do you have any means of buying dollar travellers cheques without charges on any of your bank/building society accounts? If so, buy travellers cheques for the amount, make them payable to the supplier and send through the post. The UK Post Office now sell travellers cheques without a fixed charge, but I don't know how good or bad their exchange rates are. -- Money can't buy everything. That's what credit cards are for. Steph Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tatting, lace stitching page http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Tourist tips for Baltic ports
On arachne I've asked for advice about anywhere lacey to visit on my holiday. This is a request for tips on what to do with one day in each of these ports (2 in St Petersburg): Mariehamn Helsinki St Petersburg Gdansk (Gdynia) Sassnitz Copenhagen Oslo -- Money can't buy everything. That's what credit cards are for. Steph Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tatting, lace stitching page http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: Looking for quilling supply vendors in UK
On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 13:08:21 +0300, Avital wrote: Jean, hi, Thanks very much. Do you know whether they're reliable for ordering over the Internet (for UK delivery, obviously)? If so, I think I could see myself spending quite a lot of money there. ;-) I checked the site and noticed that they have a beginner's bobbin lace kit that doesn't look too bad. It might be worth making a note as an alternative to the Horror Kit. Best wishes, Avital - Original Message - From: Jean Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fred Aldous is reliable for most craft supplies: http://www.fredaldous.co.uk/ I've used them several times without problem. They supply schools as well as individuals. Jean in Poole, Dorset, UK Fred Aldous is my local craft shop. I bought 50 beginner bobbins there to start my lace making career. Didn't know they had a lacemaking kit though. As they are local to me I purchase on the premises, but I know that they are mainly a mail order outfit, so I'd expect them to be reliable. They are (or were) the supplier of odd things like lampshade frames that just can't be found anywhere else. They have a wide range, with the main emphasis on artists supplies. If you want to work something out for me to go buy things for you, drop me a line off list. -- Money can't buy everything. That's what credit cards are for. Steph Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tatting, lace stitching page http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Things to see in Amsterdam or environs
I'm off to Germany for a lace course next week. All a bit unexpected - something got postponed at work so I've got nothing to do, and figured I might as well sit at my lace pillow instead of twiddling my thumbs in the office. Since it is all being organised at the very last minute I have to take a slightly longer way round than usual flying to Amsterdam. Figured I may as well take advantage of this and spend a couple of nights in the Netherlands on the way home. While in the Netherlands I may meet up with a friend who is a needlepointer. She is going to be staying in De Peel. So can anyone recommend something textile related to do in Amsterdam, or De Peel, or somewhere in between? -- Money can't buy everything. That's what credit cards are for. Steph Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tatting, lace stitching page http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Latin translations
On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 08:25:02 +0100, Jean wrote: Seeing the attempts at translating old Italian from Le Pompe reminded me of the motto for Poole (the town where I live): Ad morem villae de Poole Remembering what I could of Latin learn at school, my literal translation was To death villagers of Poole rearranged to Death to the villagers of Poole, which, given what the local council is doing to the town, I think is far more appropriate than the real translation According to the custom of the town of Poole. I remember a different bit of school Latin. 'Mores' is Latin for customs (with maybe morals as an alternative meaning?) so 'morem' is an inflected version of customs, accusative I think. Now the bit I've forgotten is what you are remembering that translates as death. -- Money can't buy everything. That's what credit cards are for. Steph Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tatting, lace stitching page http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Suggestions needed from a user of Earthlink ISP please
On Wed, 21 Mar 2007 23:09:49 +, Brenda wrote: I think that you are probably right in thinking that Earthlink have gone over the top with their spam filters. That sort of thing does happen from time to time with some ISPs. Last time it happened to me I contacted my ISP and his SYS Admin (whatever/whoever that is!) complained to the offending ISP and it got sorted pretty quickly. I suggest that you or your DH contact Freeserve. Good advice. Several other lists I'm on have big problems with ISPs banning list mail addresses because the same mail is going to many of their customers. Most of them sort it out and it stays sorted. However a US ISP called Comcast is a persistent offender; they seem unable to keep email lists out of their spam filters for more than a few hours at a time. There's a commercial connection between Earthlink and Comcast to do with internet via cable, not sure of the details. If the people Jean's husband is trying to email are customers of that, then I suspect Freeserve won't be able to get the problem fixed, no matter what they do. The only way to reliably communicate would be for the recipients to use a different email address like gmail or yahoo. -- Money can't buy everything. That's what credit cards are for. Steph Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tatting, lace stitching page http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Another interesting bit on surnames
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:50:14 +0100, Jean wrote: When letters are addressed jointly, ours are to Mr and Mrs William Nathan (William being my husband's first name). I believe that strictly speaking I should be address as Mrs William Nathan - think again! That implies the old idea of a wife belonging/being subservient/being part of, etc her husband. Would have been perfectly acceptable to women probably until WW2, when women went out and did the jobs that men would have done had they not been fighting. The custom persisted longer than that in some places. In my childhood in the 1960s I remember addresses on letters arriving for my mother only addressed to Mrs Alan Hollis. To a child it seemed creepy that letters to my grandmother were addressed with my grandfather's name, given that he had been dead for over 20 years. At my local lace group we were having a clear out of the library cupboard recently and came across some issues of the IOLI bulletin dating back to the late 60s/early 70s. There were some lists of names and addresses, I think new members but it could have been office holders. All the people were female, and they were listed in the form Mrs Alan Smith (Jane). Only the single women were listed with women's forenames. -- Money can't buy everything. That's what credit cards are for. Steph Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tatting, lace stitching page http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] What's the term?
I have another one for this list. When I started work as a trainee accountant my boss, also an accountant, was Mr Cheetham. -- Money can't buy everything. That's what credit cards are for. Steph Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tatting, lace stitching page http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: Editing (was: favourite authors)
On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 23:05:17 -0500, Martha wrote: However, I do frequently run into a problem where two current grammatical shibboleths occur at the same time: 1) The passive voice must be avoided at all times. 2) I must not overuse the first-person pronoun I, lest I appear to be centered on myself. I've heard the second of these and agree, but not the first. Where does this suggestion get made? The practices I have learnt amount to don't overuse the passive, using the passive is more formal than the active, but when the subject of a sentence is not known then the passive is the best construction. For instance, The jewels were removed from the safe is better than An unknown person removed the jewels from the safe. To express myself I need to use the passive, not only in writing but also, although more rarely, in speech. At work part of what I do includes reviewing written work by other team members before the written material goes to customers. Often one of the tips I dish out is to use the passive sometimes for variation. Long live the passive I say. -- Money can't buy everything. That's what credit cards are for. Steph Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tatting, lace stitching page http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Wild Elephants live
As I type this message over breakfast I'm watching two adult and one baby elephant and some sort of deer live at a watering hole in Botswana. This webcam on the National Geographic site is pointed at an African watering hole. Best time to watch is 7am to noon Botswana time (same as UK summer time), 6am-10am GMT http://205.188.130.53/ngm/wildcamafrica/wildcam.html -- Error:015: Unable to exit Windows. Try the door. Steph Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tatting, lace stitching page http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Manchester 100 bike ride
for breathers at the top of the hills. The only official stop on the 100km route was a pub in Middlewich, where we had a long cold drink. Some shade to cool off at this point would have been wonderful but there was none around, so I settled for washing my face in cold water and reapplying sun cream again. The pub was struggling hard to cope with so much custom; next time we'll follow the example of other riders and stop at a different one. Leaving Middlewich heading towards Lower Peover we met a traction engine slowly puffing its way downhill. No picture because I was more bothered about getting to the top of the hill, knowing that if I'd stopped halfway up I'd have to push the bike from there. On through Byley into Lower Peover and there were road signs for Knutsford, which is almost back on home territory. Our spirits were lifted by meeting the Dawdling Doctors out on their monthly run who rode alongside for a friendly chat for a bit. When I saw the first road sign that said Wilmslow, I declared time for food again. We hadn't felt hungry at this point, but I knew I needed some reserves to get me up the hill out of Wilmslow, so I ought to eat. And after two bites of sandwich I felt ravenous, so it was the right decision. The Dawdling Docs passed us while we ate, and then we passed them when they stopped for a pint. A refreshing cold drink was tempting, but I knew that getting started afterwards would be painful, so it was better to press on, having already got past the point of our previous personal best for the year. Wilmslow featured the only traffic jam on the ride, at 4pm on a Sunday afternoon. The ride followed the pre-bypass route of the A34, swooping down to the station and then back up the hill towards Handforth. My heart sank when I saw the marshall sat at the turning for the B1566 to Styal. This has a fast downhill, followed by a right hand bend and then up a short but very steep hill into Styal. This hill is my particular bugbear, costing me great effort to get up it when fresh. Could I cycle up without pushing after 60 miles? Well yes, but only by trying every trick I know to take my mind off the pain and effort. I was motivated by the idea of being able to say I'd cycled the entire route, having by this point entirely forgotten that I'd got off and pushed in Northwich. From Styal it's pretty much all downhill through Gatley, past a group of three people sat in a drive in deckchairs. Wow, we had spectators. Just a bridge over the M60, then a bridge over the railway, through Northenden and we were back at the park. Audrey's partner Rob snapped the moment of triumph as we crossed the finishing line, to a round of applause. This wasn't quite the end of cycling for the day, as there were another 2 miles home from Wythenshawe Park for me. We each did 68 miles, my personal best for 9 years and Audrey's personal best ever. Next year, 100 miles? -- On the other hand, you have different fingers. Stephen Wright Steph Peters, Manchester, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] arachne on a msg board
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 08:33:38 +0100, Jean wrote: A couple of years ago, a very kind lady t an ISP set anothr list up for us, but no-one went over to it. At the time this surprised me, because I can see that having a repository for pictures has advantages. However I think I've worked out why. Arachne has always been a text email list. Amongst those who are interested in lace messages, the ones who positively like text tend to stay on arachne a lot longer than those who would prefer web based messages. There must be lacemakers who would prefer html email, pictures and web based mail, but I bet few of them stay. Bev, to get what you want you need to find these people and get enough interest to make a web based message board viable as well as arachne. Most of the arachne membership would stay because they prefer text, some would join a web based group as well but I don't think all that many would leave the email list. -- The test of a vocation is the love of the drudgery it involves. Logan Pearsall Smith Steph Peters, Manchester, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: Arachne on a board
On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 00:05:55 -0400, Tamara wrote: I think Spitzenliste (German language mostly) is web-based now - I no longer subscribe to it. Spitzenliste is at Yahoo, which is a cross between email and web based. Those who like web based can read on the web, but I choose to receive the emails sent to me as text, like the arachne ones. Spitzenliste at Yahoo has a private area for exchanging a limited amount of pictures. The big downsides are that sign up is a lot more complicated than just sending a subscribe email, and if sign up isn't done carefully ticking all of the don't send boxes lurking on multiple pages it can result in a lot of advertising material being sent as well. Sign up also asks for a lot of intrusive unnecessary information so that members can be advertised to - which is why I show up on their system as a 105 year old male student! And just to keep us on our toes, a couple of times Yahoo have sent a mail saying we're introducing new service xxx so we've reset all your settings to default i.e. get all the crap, so I had to go back in and untick it all again. Yahoo get their advertising to me by putting an ad at the bottom of every message, which is fair enough as that's what pays for the service. I just don't want extra over and above that. Just as having to remember to check a message board for messages - instead of having them shipped directly to my inbox - makes it a step removed... Yes, that's one of the disadvantages for me. I can join arachne using the account on my mobile phone, knowing it can cope with a text only list, and I can use it to send live reports from conventions. I couldn't do that on a web based board - the phone wouldn't maintain a connection long enough and the connection charges would be horrendous. -- Time is the best teacher. Unfortunately it kills all its students. Steph Peters, Manchester, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat]dangers...address/board
On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 15:40:30 -0700 (PDT), Bev wrote: A fond wish of mine is that the nature of this list, both lace and chat, could be transferred to message board software, And that's one of my nightmares. I have used some of these web based message boards, and find their interfaces very slow compared to a good email client with threading. They frustrate me so much that I end up posting much less than I would on an email list. Having to be online to compose messages and transmitting higher amounts of data for the same information for all the pretty message interface graphics would limit the opportunity for participation of people who live in countries where flat rate internet access doesn't exist. including being able to post pictures in one's message, or at a gallery on the site. My ideal is somewhere for pictures as a complement to the email list, like some members use webshots now. -- How vain painting is, exciting admiration by its resemblance to things of which we do not admire the original. - Blaise Pascal Steph Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tatting, lace stitching page http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: fried green tomatoes/ peanut butter
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 16:45:53 -0400, Joy wrote: At 12:09 AM 7/13/05 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was much more sugar in it, . . . *More* sugar than American peanut butter? GAAAH The amount of sugar in peanut butter must vary by brand. The ones I buy in UK contain no sugar or sweetener at all. I nearly choked the first time I had American sweetened peanut butter, I don't like it at all. -- Patriotism is the willingness to kill and be killed for trivial reasons. - Bertrand Russell Steph Peters, Manchester, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Reese's peanut butter cups
On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 19:49:20 +0100, Jane wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Helen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I know that Woolworths in the UK has sold these things at some point, Avital, amazed to find something in Israel that's not in the UK, but my English DH says he's never seen Reese's there Apparently my daughter's American work colleague buys them in Asda - so if we've got them here in Tamworth, the chances are most Asda stores stock them. But then, Asda are now owned by Walmart. I've seen Reese's peanut butter cups around, not in Asda. But only in about the last 5 years or so. Tried one once, and have now had my lifetime's ration. -- Patriotism is the willingness to kill and be killed for trivial reasons. - Bertrand Russell Steph Peters, Manchester, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Visiting the UK
On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:28:09 +1000, you wrote: I've been informed by my boss that I'm having a month of holidays whether I want them or not. So I have decided to visit the UK to see some family who are based in North Wales. I leave in the beginning of August and come back at the beginning of September. Hi Shell Unfortunately your visit is holiday season so there are very few lace days in August. The UK Lace Guild website lists only one: August 2005 Worcs: Evesham, 13th August 10 am to 4 pm Village Hall, Badsey Road, Badsey, Evesham Ticket price: £2.50 Contact: Tricia Smith on 01386 422197. Events for September will appear there later. Would you like to come to a meeting of North West Lacemakers in Manchester (reasonably close to North Wales) on Saturday 13 August as my guest? The format is that members bring their pillows/tatting/needlelace or whatever, we have a speaker and one supplier. It is only for a few hours, 10-3, and being August there will be not as many members there as in other months. If you can get to Evesham that event is almost certainly going to be larger. Email me if you would like to come to Manchester. We could fit in a visit to the Costume Museum where there is a little bit of lace to see on some of the clothes. -- Enjoy the Universe - it's the only one you have! Steph Peters, Manchester, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Visiting the UK
On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:13:59 +0100, Jean wrote: Shell wrote: Can anyone tell me the cheapest way to travel in the UK? Trains if you can be the very first person to book a ticket on a particular journey, otherwise can be horrendous. Jean is exaggerating a bit here. The way to get cheap train tickets is buy them with a credit card on the internet in advance. Most of the long distance train companies do tickets like 3 day advance or 7 day advance on specific trains that are much cheaper than tickets to buy on the day. For instance I got a single ticket from Brockenhurst (in the New Forest close to the south coast) to Manchester (North West), a journey of approx 220 miles, for £32 in advance; if I'd bought on the day it would have been over £100. The numbers of these tickets are limited per train, so try to buy as far in advance as you can. Another tip that can sometimes help is find out which train companies run on the routes you want to use: http://www.nationalrail.co.uk then buy separate tickets from each company. This way each company will offer you its bargain fares, whereas often buying one ticket for a journey with trains run by more than one operator will be full price tickets only. The other alternative if you want to do a lot of train travel is that there is some sort of pass for several days available to people who live in other countries. It has to be bought before getting to UK. Can someone else help Shell with this? -- Time spent on any item of the agenda will be in inverse proportion to the sum involved. Steph Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tatting, lace stitching page http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Raffle of Torchon Lace Purse Pendants
On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 20:21:56 -0400, Jane wrote: Here's Rosemarie's website: www.lacet-pubs.demon.co.uk where there is probably more information. That web address is out of date. This is the new one: http://lacet.co.uk/ -- Life... is like a grapefruit. It's orange and squishy, and has a few pips in it, and some folks have half a one for breakfast. Douglas Adams Steph Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tatting, lace stitching page http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fwd: RE: [lace-chat] driving through Wales
On Mon, 9 May 2005 10:54:28 -0400, Martha wrote: I forwarded it to my husband (a linguistics PhD of Welsh heritage), who replied: As I recall, we *did* have a Burger King meal in Wales, but not in Llanfair P.G. (which is what the natives call it). Llanfair P.G. was only about 20 miles west of us when we visited Conwy, but we went in the opposite direction to get to our Burger King (which the natives would call by-gy-cing). Definitely no Burger King in Llanfair P.G. I was there last year during my cycling tour of the North Wales coast, and in need of sustenance. The possibilities were a couple of pubs, or the coffee shop inside the Edinburgh Woollen Mills shop. I never did work out why the biggest shop in a Welsh village was Scottish. -- Corporation..An ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without individual responsibility. - Ambrose Bierce Steph Peters, Manchester, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scanned by WinProxy http://www.Ositis.com/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: [lace] RSS Feeds?
On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 06:44:32 EDT, you wrote: What's RSS Feeds? The ultra-short explanation is that an RSS feed is a way of grabbing headlines from web sites, with links to the full stories, to keep track of changing content. There's a decent summary here: http://www.whatisrss.com/ To use RSS you need some RSS software. Some browsers, e.g. Opera, Firefox, include RSS, others e.g. Internet Explorer, don't. There are also separate RSS programs. Then you find a web site that offers an RSS feed which you want to keep an eye on - for instance the BBC news site, or I use it to keep an eye on computer related news at http://www.theregister.co.uk. Look for the letters RSS often orange coloured. -- Shift to the left! Shift to the right! Pop up, push down, byte, byte, byte! Steph Peters, Manchester, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scanned by WinProxy http://www.Ositis.com/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Log books, demo time etc
On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 10:30:20 -0800, Alice wrote: I'm not the expert, but I'll tell what I know. One tax-exempt status is Nonprofit. I think the organization has to declare a catagory, and the catagory that groups like IOLI and my sewing group qualify for has an education element and/or a public service element to it. In order to show that we do volunteer time towards these goals, we have to keep track of how many hours we spend each year doing it. Each member has to report these hours so the collective amount for each local group can be reported to the head officers. The total for the organization goes on some report yearly to the tax office. This is a USA Federal Tax Status situation. I don't know if there is a similar situation in other countries. The UK situation has both similarities and differences. The tax-exempt status for charities, for certain types of income, has categories of which educational is one. Education has to be aimed at the public at large, not just members of the organisation. So far, fairly similar. The details of the way the exemption is achieved and maintained are different. The UK Inland Revenue evaluates the status of an organisation once when the organisation applies for the charitable status from The Charities Commission, a separate government body. The evaluation is of what the rules of the organisation set out as its aims and whether the aims are considered charitable. The evaluation is of what the organisation intends to do in the future, without any regard to the past activities. Once the charitable status has been achieved, the Inland Revenue do very low key monitoring of what the charity does. Provided accounts are filed on time, the financial details appear consistent with the stated aims and there isn't an unrelated business being carried on (selling books about lace is charitable, selling second-hand books in general would not be) then the Inland Revenue will not enquire further into activities and certainly don't expect any report of what was actually done, never mind volunteer hours. Instead the part of the Inland Revenue that deals with charities concentrates its efforts on looking at border line cases; they spend a lot of time on a very small number of organisations and leave the straightforward ones in peace. Steph (Accountant and qualified tax professional, who did this stuff for a living for 15 years) Scanned by WinProxy http://www.Ositis.com/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: Credit Cards.
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 11:51:15 +0100, Jane wrote: Incidently at the moment, in this country at any rate, shops are not allowed to pass on the credit card charges to customers its part of the terms and conditions of running a credit card facility in your company. That used to be true in UK, but is not any more. There was a monopolies court case about it, where the court held that by imposing this restriction on retailers the card companies were acting as a monopoly, which is illegal. So the retailers can now decide for themselves whether to impose a surcharge for credit cards or debit cards, offer a discount for cash or charge everyone the same price. Most opt for the same prices, but a few don't -- Of all human follies there's none could be greater. Than trying to render our fellow-men better. - Moliere Steph Peters, Manchester, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scanned by WinProxy http://www.Ositis.com/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: credit cards and banks
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 21:14:19 -0500, Tamara wrote: On Mar 25, 2005, at 15:24, Steph Peters wrote: However I don't borrow from them, paying the entire balance every month. Me too, except when I forget... :( Got my March (payment due April 12) statement today, with $39 f(lat fee) late payment, and $5.70 in interest (funny how, when the bank borrows from me, I get 0.25% rate, but, if I borrow from the bank, it's over 15% g). What the heck... And I checked, and by golly, I *did not* pay off the February debt; the statement got buried under a mountain of other paper... That was a quick $45 loss g But that's exactly the reason I do not have more than one card; it I have trouble keeping track of *it*, just imagine where I'd be with more than one... :) I do have two, actually, but I've put one of them away (too much trouble to cancel it, unless/until they start charging me for it) so as not to charge anything to it inadvertently. Ah, this is where phone or internet banking comes in handy. A bill arrives, I immediately phone my bank and set up a payment to be made to reach the credit card company on the right day. All done and dusted so there's nothing to forget, but I don't pay early either. -- Psychoanalysis makes quite simple people feel they're complex. - S. N. Behrman Steph Peters, Manchester, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scanned by WinProxy http://www.Ositis.com/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: credit cards and banks
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:24:05 -0500, Tamara wrote: on your many credit cards (though why anyone would want to have more than one...). I always have at least two, and on occasions have had three. In UK the credit card companies change their terms and conditions frequently. Some cards have annual charges with lower interest rates, others have no annual charges and higher interest rates, some give cash back on purchases, others give air miles (like frequent flyer miles) or donations to charity. Being without a credit card would be a considerable inconvenience to me, because I use them a lot as a payment method. However I don't borrow from them, paying the entire balance every month. Now and then one of my cards will announce it is going to start charging me, usually giving no more than a month's notice. At this point I cancel that card, and look for a replacement. Because I've got another card to use in the meantime I can select my replacement in my own time and do the research to find what I want, but without any inconvenience. -- Every major horror of history was committed in the name of an altruistic motive. Has any act of selfishness ever equalled the carnage perpetrated by disciples of altruism? Ayn Rand Steph Peters delete invalid from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tatting, lace stitching page http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm Scanned by WinProxy http://www.Ositis.com/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Australian Tea Cosies
On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 07:53:25 -, Linda wrote: Karen In Coventry, England, commented:- Wonder how many lace decorated tea cosies they will get! Not many here, I'm sure, even in what feels like the British Championship Lacemaking County. (We are so lucky in having lots of really good suppliers on our doorstep, and even the second-hand bookshop always has a shelf of lacemaking books.) However, I've just had a vision of a lace-decorated tea cosy, looking a bit like those lacy panties that baby girls often wear for special occasions, and imagine that it might be a way to display/do something with all those little strips of experiments and samples and try-outs of lace that lurk at the back of my lace box. Yeah, but then you don't have them for reference. Keep your samples in page protectors, one day you will need them. But it could be fun to make a tea cosy out of some of those baby knickers -- Benign What you are after you be eight Steph Peters, Manchester, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scanned by WinProxy http://www.Ositis.com/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Friend going to Ireland
An American friend of mine is going to Ireland. She's a needlepointer primarily, but is interested in all things textile. Can anyone help with some advice please. I asked permission to post Leslie's email address here, so that replies can be sent direct. On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 05:08:40 -0500, Leslie Gagliardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been reading, with interest, all the messages about what to see in England in the way of needlework. But I'm not coming to England, I'm going to be in Ireland in October. Are you aware of anything that I should try to find? I'll be in Dublin, Tralee, Galway, and points South. I've tried the Internet but can't seem to find much. TIA, Leslie -- Space isn't remote at all. It's only an hour's drive away if your car could go straight upwards. - Fred Hoyle Steph Peters, Manchester, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scanned by WinProxy http://www.Ositis.com/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] question about weather?
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 12:54:11 -, Nicky wrote: My DH and I are looking to visit across the pond next year, in the Maryland/Virginia area of the US. (Probably around Montogomery MD; Richmond Williamstown VA).What I would like is an indication of the weather/climate in this part of the world, we don't want to visit during a period of cold/snowy weather nor do we want it to be excessively hot and sticky so what months are the best time to visit - I know it is not a guarantee just a guide. Here's an answer from the perspective of a visiting Brit. I holidayed in that area after attending a conference in Washington DC in the mid-80's. The timing was the week after Labor day, i.e. mid September. The weather seemed pleasantly warm and no more humid than UK. The after Labor day week was great timing; every elegant country inn style BB had vacancies. Didn't make any bookings in advance but got in everywhere, because the numbers of US tourists dropped hugely from Labor day. -- Whereas nature turns girls into women, society has to make boys into men. - Anthony Stevens Steph Peters delete invalid from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tatting, lace stitching page http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm Scanned by WinProxy http://www.Ositis.com/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Reply from Ford
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 15:34:36 -, Jean wrote: If the police need to see the vehicle registration document, insurance certificate or your driving license, you can produce them within a certain number of days (I think 14 days) at the nearest police station, so there's no need to carry any of those with you. Last year DH got told to produce his documents at the police station and was only given 3 days to do so; I don't know if the time limit varies. I thought it was a bit of a cheek, as the reason the police were talking to him was that a hit and run driver had hit the side of our car while it was stationary, so there was no way that DH was to blame. -- A government is the only known vessel that leaks from the top. - James Reston Steph Peters delete invalid from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tatting, lace stitching page http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm Scanned by WinProxy http://www.Ositis.com/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: lacemaking and motorcycle riding
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:15:01 +, Jane wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Joy Beeson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Moved to chat because my response has nothing to do with lace: Don't know if anyone else has this problem, but this came into my lace box because the [lace] was left in the subject line - I filter according to either [lace] or [lace-chat] - these are added to the subject line (almost always) automatically by Arachne's computer. Can I ask if you are moving from one to t'other, you remove the original's tag from the subject line before you post, please? If the filtering in your email program can use any of the headers to filter, then I suggest using the X-List header which is either: X-List: lace X-List: lace-chat One or the other of these (but never both) is in every message. -- Is reading in the bathroom considered Multi-Tasking? Steph Peters, Manchester, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scanned by WinProxy http://www.Ositis.com/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Is this correct?
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 08:29:41 -, Jean wrote: As part of our tightened security since 9/11 passports have to be produced for internal air travel here, which means that, not having been outside the UK since 1959 and therefore not having had need of a passport, currently I can't fly from Bournemouth to London, but then it is only 60 odd miles. I think you have been given only part of the story here Jean. I took a flight from Manchester to Southampton about 10 days ago. What is required is a form of ID with a photo. The most commonly available forms are a passport or the newer style driving licence with photo, but they are not the only acceptable items. The only other things I've ever had with a photo on were student ID cards so what the alternatives are I don't know. -- History teaches us that men and nations behave wisely once they have exhausted all other alternatives. Abba Eban Steph Peters, Manchester, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scanned by WinProxy http://www.Ositis.com/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re lace on ebay
On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 08:31:45 +1300, Maxine wrote: I don't know about the damage from the green baize, but I would be concerned that the album appears to be one of those that one stuck the items in with a plastic page, and those have wrecked havoc on photographs because of the acid in them. The seller describes it as 'old' lace. Some of the pieces I recognise from a book of Honiton designs - the reeds and one of the animals. I don't have a copy of the book myself to check, but it can't be older than 70's at the most, and more likely 80's. So some of the lace definitely isn't old, and to my eye all of it could be modern. -- The first method for estimating the intelligence of a ruler is to look at the men he has around him. Niccolo Machiavelli Steph Peters, Manchester, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] CD burning
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 08:13:12 -0600, Sue wrote: No good buying a scanner...I Until then, the photo shop will have to do me, at 5.95 a pop. I have a scanner, but to my mind (and considering how busy I am) 5.95 is well worth spending not to have to scan all the photos individually. I didn't make myself clear. The scanner comes with a negative holder for a strip of negatives. It fits into the scanner in a specific place. I scan once for the strip (4 or 6 negatives depending on how the photo processor cut them up) and get a big picture which is easily chopped up. I know it won't suit everyone, but it is an alternative. -- Anyone who lives within their means suffers from a lack of imagination. Oscar Wilde Steph Peters, Manchester, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scanned by WinProxy http://www.Ositis.com/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] David do you trifle?
On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 01:56:21 +1100, David wrote: Hmm. Yes, but I had to change Mum's somewhat 'cos she was strict Methodist and never touched a drop :) Now let me see if I can recall how it went - haven't made one in a few years. My family's version is similar. My grandmother used to insist her recipe was 'proper English trifle' from her mother's recipe, dating to around 1850 - but I reckon any English family could claim that. In a huge casserole dish put chunks of a stale plain cake or sponge (not stale enough to be mouldy :). Saturate it (although not enough to make it loose shape) with brandy, red wine - you know the usual stuff. Sherry is our referred tiple for this. Now add lots of fresh fruit - particularly strawberries, red seedless grapes, blue berries, black currants (whatever you like really). Pour a fairly think custard over the lot. Let it cool Agreed up to here and then top with a dark red flavoured jelly Skip this bit - according to grandma jelly in trifle is a 20th century bastardisation. and put it in the fridge. Of course you serve it with huge dollops of fresh whipped cream. Which grandma also said - not very 1850 is it? I find it much easier to make it this way rather than in individual glasses (sometimes called parfait glasses) - far too fiddly Too right. -- Definition of Terror: A female Klingon with PMS. Steph Peters delete invalid from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tatting, lace stitching page http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm Scanned by WinProxy http://www.Ositis.com/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: International Money Transfer Question
On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 12:31:46 -0800 (PST), Bev wrote: I have already replied privately to Helen. Just to inform anyone who is interested, Canadian banks accept without additional fee monies in other major currencies. I can deposit into my bank a cheque made out to me in, for instance, GBP, USD, AUD, etc. from a friend's bank account in that respective country. The teller does the conversion for that day's exchange rate. There is no extra charge for this other than usual bank fees (which they seem to find enough small charges here and there to annoy us). Embroidery and needlepoint supplies are a lot cheaper in US Canada than in UK. So I found myself a Canadian supplier whom I could pay with cheques in UK pounds. Several purchases went through without a hitch. Then one day the regular bank clerk who dealt with these cheques was on holiday. My supplier went in to her bank, and the substitute cashier was really worried, because there was no rate on her list for Scottish pounds - my bank account is with the Royal Bank of Scotland. The cashier flatly refused to accept the cheque, and we nearly got to the point of me having to send a cheque from an account with a different bank, until the Canadian supplier finally managed to get someone at the bank's head office who knew that Scottish pounds are UK pounds. It could have been worse - I used to have an account with another of the UK's 4 largest high street banks: The Hong Kong and Shanghai Banking Corporation! -- The trouble with being in the rat race is that even if you win, you're still a rat. Lily Tomlin Steph Peters delete invalid from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tatting, lace stitching page http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Things you wish your computer had ....
Warning: contains language which may offend http://www.tobynopoly.com/wish/computer.html Look carefully at the third radio button on the last one, my mind is boggling! -- It is a shameful thing to be weary of enquiry when what we search for is excellence.Cicero Steph Peters, Manchester, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scanned by WinProxy http://www.Ositis.com/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] The Triplets of Belleville
On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 16:26:55 -0700 (PDT), Janice wrote: My daughter recommended this movie to us and when it came out as a DVD I bought it for DH who is an avid cyclist. It's quite odd but very amusing. Are these the same film? The one with the cyclist and granny in is titled Belleville Rendezvous when shown in UK; I suspect that is the original French title. The triplets are in it, but they play a minor role only in the later part of the film. I wasn't sure if this was the film that Tamara described, or if there was possibly a second Belleville film. Steph Another avid cyclist Scanned by WinProxy http://www.Ositis.com/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Welsh Wanderings 6
, and on this route a lot of the passengers have cases. When changing trains at Chester I had to disembowel the bike from behind half a dozen big and heavy cases. Back in Manchester the weather was much brighter, but still very windy. Got beeped at by a mini cab driver because I dared to occupy a whole lane to turn right while he was behind me, and knew life was back to normal. After a quick bite of lunch a little lie down seemed in order, but I slept for 4 hours till 6pm. Then by 9.30 I was yawning again, so I went to bed 3 hours earlier than usual. That wind was more wearing than I'd realised. Total for the trip 123 miles. -- (A)bort, (R)etry, (I)gnore, (V)alium? Steph Peters, Manchester, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scanned by WinProxy http://www.Ositis.com/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Day 5 of Welsh Wanderings
Saturday It rained all night in Bangor and all through breakfast too. Bangor has some indoor things to do, but I couldn't stay because every room had been taken by parents of new students arriving for freshers week. Fortunately by the time I was ready to leave the rain had stopped. Leaving Bangor was a slog up a big hill but worthwhile for the views of the Menai Straits that separate Anglesey from the mainland. Bikes can be ridden over the oldest suspension bridge in the world, built by Thomas Telford, but I walked to stop and take photos. Most of the traffic on Anglesey uses the new A55 dual carriageway, so the older A5 is reasonably pleasant to cycle, with more great views of the Straits. The first town inland is Llanfairpwll or Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwahtysiliogogogoch to give its full name, the longest place name in the world. Bit of a cheat though, as the name was artificially lengthened by a committee. What I don't understand is why the big attraction in town is the James Pringle Weavers shop that is Scottish, not Welsh. Most of Anglesey was already booked for Saturday night; it took the tourist office a couple of hours to find a BB for me that wasn't either halfway up a hillside or unfeasibly far away. The train extended my options so I ended up in Y Fali, more familiarly known as Valley, where there's an RAF base that does search and rescue missions. Had a short afternoon ride in sunshine to Four Mile Bridge and then across the embankment to the coastal park at Penrhos. The one grey cloud in a bright blue sky scudded in my direction while I was sitting at Penrhos so I started back. Halfway across the embankment, where the road and railway cross about a kilometre of open water, the rain cloud caught up and the deluge began. The sunshine all around created an excellent rainbow, but this wasn't much compensation for getting soaked. Total for the day 14 miles, all sunny but some wet too. Regards Steph [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Welsh Wanderings 3
1.30 pm Great Orme Tram Station Plan for the day was to ride along Marine Drive, up and around the Great Orme. Cars have to pay a toll for this road, but bikes don't, so it should be quiet. I sat on the promenade and watched for half an hour without seeing any traffic at all. However what I did see was lots of big threatening clouds. Getting caught in the rain out on the hillside, having battled strong winds to get there is not my idea of fun. The road is one way so there's no giving up and going back if it gets tough. So I decided to take the tram to the summit instead. 4.30 pm Llandudno promenade There was a bit of dampness in the air on top of the Great Orme but it never quite turned into rain. The winds were very strong. The views west to Snowdonia and Anglesey were good as the was some sunshine in that direction, which is encouraging as that's where I'm headed next. The tramway and Great Orme have had a lot of money from the lottery, so there's lots of explanations of the history, geology and wildlife. I liked the rock garden with examples of all the plants, including a cotoneaster that doesn't grow anywhere else in the world. I'm sat in a shelter on the promenade watching the gulls. The adults have a white head and chest with grey wings and make the typical intermittent gull cry. There are other gulls the same size with brown and white markings all over. I reckon they must be this year's almost full grown chicks, because they behave just like teenagers, making a constant shrill noise. One has just tried to take off and fly over the beach but didn't quite get it right, going too low and scattering a few stones from a ridge. Mileage for the day 7, pootling around Llandudno Regards Steph [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Welsh Wanderings 1
I'm having a few days cycle touring along the North Wales coast. Tuesday turned out not to be a good day to have started my trip. 10.30 am On a train in Cheshire It took a considerable effort of will to get out of the front door into the Manchester rain but the sun was shining ahead so I pedalled off towards the station. Within 5 minutes the rain had stopped and I wished I'd waited. The sun came out, I dried off a bit and started concentrating on how the bike handles with 10kg of luggage. The rain came back for the last mile to the station, with very strong gusts of wind. By the time I'd carried the laden bike up the stairs to the footbridge and found the train was late I was regretting the whole idea of Wales in September. 1.30 pm At a B+B in Prestatyn I remember Prestatyn as a busy place with great beaches from childhood holidays in the 60's. It's hit hard times since then. The bit of town between the railway and the beach now seems to be Barratt homes, caravan parks and closed businesses. The B+B's have almost disappeared. Despite riding around for over an hour I found just 3. The grey wet train ride gave way to welcome sunshine, but the wind was so strong that going east on a flat inland road I was blown along at 10mph without pedalling. On the coastal cycle path next to the sea I could hardly stand against the wind-didn't dare actually get on the bike. Fortunately the plan for the afternoon was a ride inland (see North Wales CTC web page for details). I just hope the winds drop a bit tomorrow or I'll have to get the train to Colwyn Bay. 4.15 pm A bus shelter in Dyserth Welsh trains must be very powerful. The Prestatyn to Dyserth Way is along the line of an old railway, but is steadily uphill for its 3 mile length. This gives great views across the land and of the five rows of six wind turbines a couple of miles out to sea. Dyserth has a spectacular waterfall, reached after some wrong turns and very steep ups and downs. The waterfall tea room was shut, but I was prepared with my flask so sat under a tree scoffing a sarnie and sipping tea while a light shower passed over. The 12% hill up to the village had me off and pushing, but it was only short. Coming up to the next junction I was pondering whether to do the entire CTC ride, or turn off back into Dyserth and find the path again to go back the way I came. Looking west along the A5151 preparing to cross it, I saw a wall of rain heading towards me, doing at least 30mph. I crossed the road as fast as I could to hide in a bus shelter opposite, but got very wet. Unfortunately the deluge has quite a horizontal component allowing it to get into the shelter, so I'm getting wetter as I write this. 9.30 pm At a B+B in Prestatyn When the rain stopped I decided to just go down the Cwm road half a mile to see the views of Snowdonia. The sun came out and I realised I'd left the sun cream at the B+B. All the water from the rain ran down the hill and then along this road. It was like cycling in a stream. My feet got wet despite the mudguards - oh well, now they just matched the rest of me. In this soggy state I didn't fancy riding another 14 miles up and over a range of hills, so I freewheeled my way back to Prestatyn down the railway line. Total for the day 21.7 miles, every one of them wet, windy or hilly. Regards Steph [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Welsh wanderings Day 2
10.30 am Rhyl promenade Wednesday was brighter than Tuesday and a lot less windy. Leaving Prestatyn on National Cycle Network 5 by the beach the wind was south westerly, so still a stiff headwind for cycling west. The path follows the beach on the seaward side of the dunes, while the road is further inland. This means that a lot of sand is blown onto the path. So progress involves a fair amount of wiggling around puddles, driftwood and piles of sand. Even at 7 miles per hour I passed a couple of other cyclists who were ploughing through all the piles of sand. I suggested that the tarmac was easier, but when I looked back they were still in the sand. After 2 miles open to the sea there was a wall to the side of the path. 3 feet of shelter from the wind was worth an extra mile per hour. After 3.5 miles I was pleased to find that Rhyl was alive and open for business so I could get a cup of coffee and find a nice clean public loo. rant If little towns and even villages in Wales and Scotland can have clean and open public loos, why can't England manage this even in big cities?/rant 15.00 pm Rhos on Sea After Rhyl Kimael Bay consists of sand dunes and caravans, with a convenient Asda for buying lunch. Nothing for the caravanners to do though, apart from the one kid who had a kite. At Abergele there were 30 or so cyclists sat outside a cafe, so I bought a cup of tea and sat down for a chat with Colwyn Bay's Wednesday Cyclists Touring Club group. I assumed that being slow anyway and fully laden I'd be left behind smartish, but to my surprise caught up with a group of 3 people going to Colwyn Bay. I really enjoyed having company for a while, especially as they walked up the same little inclines as me. After the Asda sarnie and a cup of tea it was decision time - stay in Colwyn or press on to Llandudno. By this time the sun was out, the sky was blue and even stopping to write this hadn't got me cold so it's too nice a day to waste. 23.00 Llandudno After Penrhyn the cycle path turns inland to climb over the Little Orme. Amazingly the red paint and edge markings of the path continue across the side roads with give way markings for the cars! I can't remember ever seeing this in UK before. I wonder if the cars do actually give way to bikes? There wasn't any traffic around for me to put this to the test. The path does some crazy to-ing and fro-ing with lots of dismount signs to avoid going round a roundabout. Then there's a bit in a cutting adjacent to a dual carriageway where it becomes steep uphill. I had to get off and push again, but did at least stay on as far as the youths behind and in front of me. A nice long descent leads to the end of the path at the start of Llandudno's promenade. I rode along it towards town - it's as wide as a dual carriageway - but found out later that in theory cycling is banned on the promenade. There was loads of room and plenty of other cyclists though. Total for the day 27 miles. Regards Steph [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Copyright - my two penn'th
On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 01:25:25 EDT, Liz wrote: It isn't something that we can police because let's face it, how do you remember who you've sold patterns to when you see them at a lace day - perhaps it was bought by a friend as a present - I've had that happen when I've given someone a lift to a lace fair. (By the way, did you know that in the UK you aren't supposed to 'charge' someone petrol money to take them somewhere - that makes you a taxi and gives issue with your insurance but they can offer to fill up your petrol tank and pay for it - see, we have laws that go round in circles on other areas too!) This was changed by British insurance companies some time back. They got together and changed the relevant clauses in all policies at the same time. I think that it may have been around the time of the first oil crisis in the 70's, and the government pressured the insurance companies into doing it. -- Another victim of Modem Addictus Steph Peters, Manchester, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scanned by WinProxy http://www.Ositis.com/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Weather report
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 14:12:36 +1000, Jackie wrote: Many people are seeing cracks in the walls, even ceilings, of their homes due to the dry weather. One local Council has been forced to close two lanes of the swimming pool. Duh? They'll still have water in. I wish I could send you some of the rain from England, and Manchester in particular. Part of the motorway ring road round Manchester was closed due to being flooded two feet deep on Tuesday. It has rained heavily for a long time every day for the past 10 days. I'm starting to get cabin fever from not being able to go for my usual daily 10 mile bike ride. Today was the first day it wasn't raining in the morning, so I went for a ride on the way to work. No rain, but I got thoroughly soaked riding along roads that were still flooded. -- A friend: someone who likes you even after they know you Steph Peters, Manchester, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scanned by WinProxy http://www.Ositis.com/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Fwd: NYTimes.com Article: Virginia Underground
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 00:43:29 -0400, Tamara wrote: But, no... My pocket snake did *not* permit me to stay at those expensive hotels g My pocket snake isn't quite as vicious as Tamara's, so aided by a particularly favourable exchange rate I did stay at the Hotel Strasburg in 1986. I suspect the prices have gone up since then though. -- A family reunion is an effective form of birth control Steph Peters, Manchester, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scanned by WinProxy http://www.Ositis.com/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Funnt
A man in a hot air balloon realised he was lost. He reduced altitude and spotted a woman below. He descended a bit more and shouted, Excuse me, can you help me? I promised a friend I would meet him an hour ago, but I don't know where I am. The woman below replied, You are in a hot air balloon hovering approximately 30 feet above the ground. You are between 40 and 41 degrees north latitude and between 59 and 60 degrees west longitude. You must be an engineer, said the balloonist. I am, replied the woman, How did you know? Well, answered the balloonist, everything you told me is, technically correct, but I have no idea what to make of your information, and the fact is I am still lost. Frankly, you've not been much help so far. The woman below responded, You must be in Management. I am, replied the balloonist, but how did you know? Well, said the woman, you don't know where you are or where you are going. You have risen to where you are due to a large quantity of hot air. You made a promise which you have no idea how to keep, and you expect people beneath you to solve your problems. The fact is you are in exactly the same position you were in before we met, but now, somehow, it's my fault -- An unbreakable toy is useful for breaking other toys Steph Peters, Manchester, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scanned by WinProxy http://www.Ositis.com/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] RE:man on the moon
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 21:43:21 -0600, Helen wrote: My parents did that to me too - made me watch it, even though I don't really remember it - more from the video from later years. In our family it was the other way round - I made my parents watch it. In fact I nagged them about it so much for weeks in advance that they gave in to me (then aged 11) and rented a TV for an entire year so that I could watch. They weren't interested at all, but I was space mad. The campaign to watch lasted a long time. The landing was well past my UK bedtime - recollection says early hours of the morning but that could be wrong - so I also had to persuade them to let me stay up to watch it live. I still reckon it's the best thing I ever saw on TV. At the time it seemed like the start of a space age. I fully expected there to be people living on the moon by now, and for men to have visited Mars. I'm wondering now if I'll ever see anything quite as thrilling again. -- Gentility is what is left over from rich ancestors after the money is gone. - John Ciardi Steph Peters, Manchester, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scanned by WinProxy http://www.Ositis.com/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Weather
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 08:34:50 +0100, Jean wrote: Although he's 65 he's just bought his third and most expensive mountain bike. Not that he rides on mountains, it's just that it's got front fork suspension and suspension in the frame so it's vey comfortable, and this one is very light (not on the pocket though) so he can use his energy moving himself rather than the bike as well. Every fine day that's fine throughout the year he's out in the morning and cycles about 25 miles with a break in the middle. He meets up with a group of similar aged men at a coffee stall on the cliffs (must be a bit like Last of the Summer Wine). Your husband is my nemesis - the cycling stealth pensioner. They look quite innocent, but there are us younger cyclists toiling up a hill puffing and panting, while the cycling pensioner cheerily overtakes and chats with the breath we don't have. It's that doing it every day that gets them fit. I'm just hoping that when I retire I too can become one. Jean might be pleased to know that regular cycling adds about 10 years to normal life expectancy, for men and women. -- Jury - A group of 12 people, who, having lied to the judge about their health, hearing, and business engagements, have failed to fool him. Henry Louis Mencken Steph Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tatting, lace stitching page http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm Scanned by WinProxy http://www.Ositis.com/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Cows (was Re: [lace] Prague (long))
On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 16:12:47 -0700 (PDT), Janice wrote: I found Prague very English friendly, most notices and menus were written in English as well as Czech. Prague is populated by cows at the moment. I was told there are 200 of them set around the city. They are similar to the cows we had in Chicago a few years ago, made of fibreglass or something similar and decorated by artists. At the end of the season in Chicago they were auctioned off and raised lots of money for charity. I don't know how long they will be in Prague or what they will do with them. I did take a photo of one which I think was on Dlouha. It was red with black lace glued all over it. P.S. When I find the cable for my camera I will upload the cow to the webs shots so you can see what I am talking about. I'm dragging a non-lace bit of Janice's message over to chat to comment on. What is it about cows? Manchester is currently infested by lifesize fibreglass cows, in all sorts of weird colours. There's a green flowery one about 10 meters up under the arch of the Commonwealth games swimming pool, a pink one in the shopping centre, and one in a huge hamster wheel outside the Siemens building on the main road south out of the city. Depending on whose report is to be believed, there are either 100 or 200 of them. I'd wonder if all the cows in all these cities are the same, but they can't be as the Manchester set are going to be auctioned off for charity when the 'event' is over. However the BBC report that it's also been done in Dublin, New York and Tokyo, and originated in Zurich. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/3804221.stm -- A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices. - William James Steph Peters, Manchester, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scanned by WinProxy http://www.Ositis.com/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Computer test
Religious joke coming up, so hit the delete key now if you are easily offended. Jesus and Satan were having an on-going argument about who was better on his computer. They had been going at it for days, and frankly God was tired of hearing all the bickering. Finally fed up, God said, THAT'S IT! I have had enough. I am going to set up a test that will run for two hours, and from those results, I will judge who does the better job. So Satan and Jesus sat down at the keyboards and typed away. They moused. They faxed. They e-mailed. They e-mailed with attachments. They downloaded. They did spreadsheets. They wrote reports. They created labels and cards. They created charts and graphs. They did some genealogy reports. They did every job known to man. Jesus worked with heavenly efficiency and Satan was faster than hell. Then, ten minutes before their time was up, lightning suddenly flashed across the sky, thunder rolled, rain poured, and, of course, the power went off. Satan stared at his blank screen and screamed every curse word known in the underworld. Jesus just sighed. Finally the electricity came back on, and each of them restarted their computers. Satan started searching frantically, screaming It's gone! It's all GONE! I lost everything when the power went out! Meanwhile, Jesus quietly started printing out all of his files from the past two hours of work. Satan observed this and became irate. Wait! he screamed, That's not fair! He cheated! How come he has all his work and I don't have any? God just shrugged and said, Jesus saves. -- I distinctly remember forgetting that - Clara Barton Steph Peters, Manchester, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scanned by WinProxy http://www.Ositis.com/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] sleeping in parks
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 15:48:13 +1000 (EST), Helene wrote: There are Youth Hostels everywhere in Europe, Jane, and in most countries (except Britain), they don't mind if you arrive by car either. That rule was repealed many years ago, it's now OK to arrive at British youth hostels by car. We only ever used to park round the corner and arrive on foot anyway. -- Bureaucracy is a giant mechanism operated by pygmies. - Honore' De Balzac Steph Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tatting, lace stitching page http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm Scanned by WinProxy http://www.Ositis.com/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: This is for Real - humour
On Tue, 25 May 2004 22:48:58 -0400, Tamara wrote: I also have some doubts about the text having been written by a woman; sounds to me more like something concocted by a man in a wet dream. I don't know who wrote this particular text, but its style certainly does not rule out a female author. Because it's a book it is a little more in depth than would be published in a magazine, but in style it is typical of the type of advice that women's magazines used to give at the time. The authors of articles for such magazines were almost all women; writing articles for women to read was rather too frivolous an occupation for a man. So I'd say it was highly likely to have been written by a woman. Besides, what man of the time would know about face and hair care products ;-) -- I have opinions of my own - strong opinions - but I don't always agree with them. George W. Bush Steph Peters, Manchester, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scanned by WinProxy http://www.Ositis.com/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Question of language, again...
On Sat, 22 May 2004 20:29:59 -0400, Tamara wrote: From 45+ years ago, I seem to remember that there was a term when things moved in the 2+2+2 order (arithmetical progression?) And a different one when they moved in a 2x2x2 fashion (geometrical progression?) I need *both* those terms. I think... :) Right on both counts. (Sorry, just couldn't resist the pun.) -- A government is the only known vessel that leaks from the top. - James Reston Steph Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tatting, lace stitching page http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm Scanned by WinProxy http://www.Ositis.com/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] :) Fwd: Bread Statistics
On Thu, 20 May 2004 20:51:52 -0400, Thurlow wrote: Dear God in heaven!!! I've got two loaves in the kitchen right now!! Should I incinerate them? Shoot them? Drown them in a bucket? How do we protect ourselves? Well you probably need to put incarcerating me near the top of the list, as I'm a small scale dealer. I give away samples of freshly baked bread products at work, thereby hooking my colleagues. Now what variety shall I tempt them with on Monday, maple and pecan, banana and muesli, or are any of them ready for the hard stuff, wholemeal? -- Error finding REALITY.SYS - Load TREK.SYS instead? (Y/n) Steph Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tatting, lace stitching page http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm Scanned by WinProxy http://www.Ositis.com/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Eats, Shoots and Leaves
On Wed, 19 May 2004 18:13:50 -0700, Weronika wrote: As far as I know (currently taking the third term of a Japanese course, so I may well be missing things), these are the only punctuation marks in Japanese, and the periods normally look like little o's. Periods work pretty much like in English and Polish. The commas are a little vague (either that or I'm just vague on how to use them). Ah, right, there are quotation marks too sometimes, which look like little corners: |_ before and _ | after. The most confusing thing about Japanese is that there generally aren't any spaces, other than in books for little children. I just recently got to the no-space stage... I learnt to speak then read and write a bit of Thai nearly 20 years ago. Thai has alphabetical characters - 70 odd of them - not the Japanese picture representations of ideas. However Thai doesn't have much of a concept of a word. It is written as a long sequence of letters with gaps for the breaks between sentences. I don't remember there being any punctuation at all in my beginner's reader, nor on things I saw while I was there. I might have missed something like quotation marks though. -- Is reading in the bathroom considered Multi-Tasking? Steph Peters, Manchester, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scanned by WinProxy http://www.Ositis.com/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: [lace] Thread
On Sat, 08 May 2004 07:29:10 -0700, Irene wrote: I just got my supply list for the Russian Tape Lace workshop with Thea de Roode in Tønder. She asks for 3 types of thread, Linen 60/2, DMC Mouline, and Pearl #5. Is DMC Mouline the 6 stranded embroidery thread, that we call embroidery floss? Yes it is. In UK parlance it is called stranded cotton. If you have any, Mouline is on the label. -- A paranoid is a man who knows a little of what's going on. William Burroughs Steph Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tatting, lace stitching page http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm Scanned by WinProxy http://www.Ositis.com/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Childrens' books (was Nancy Drew books)
On Wed, 5 May 2004 10:51:23 EDT, Patricia wrote: As for still reading children's favourites as adults that usually is the sign of a well written book: the actual age of the reader doesn't come into it. I remember an English teacher in secondary school telling a class of teenagers that good children's books are not limited to a readership of children only. He was talking about Arthur Ransome at the time but I agree it refers equally well to the books of L.M. Montgomery. I have them all *and* videos of the Anne books and the books of Tales which were produced by Canadian TV. Every so often I wallow. I like reading childrens' classics - but in a foreign language. Being written for children they are usually a little simpler than adult books in grammatical construction and vocabulary. I've become a fan of Erik Kästner's books in German. They helped me improve to a level where I can now happily read an adult novel, but I go back to Kästner every now and then for a treat. Fortunately for me he wrote quite a lot of books. Some of my German friends have been reading Harry Potter in English, which must make for a rather peculiar set of additions to their vocabulary. -- The trouble with being in the rat race is that even if you win, you're still a rat. Lily Tomlin Steph Peters, Manchester, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scanned by WinProxy http://www.Ositis.com/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] The continuing tale of woe
On Mon, 3 May 2004 20:40:50 -0400, Tamara wrote: Curioser and curioser... Had a phone call from Alice (thanks again, Alice, for taking the trouble) telling me that a message she tried to send to me *last night* was rejected -- can't connect to @rockbridge.net -- which seemed to suggest trouble at my ISP rather than at Postini or at my own 'puter. And, when I was there earlier today, the young lady who added the Postini to my account confirmed that in a way, when she said the puter was sluggish today. But... If my ISP is having problems, how come *my* messages go through OK? Actually, for those who know anything about email systems, not at all curious and entirely to be expected. From an ISP's point of view, outbound and inbound email have little in common. They have different storage requirements, often use different technologies and many users connect to outbound mail less often and for a shorter time. So it makes good sense to keep the two systems separate, on different machines. This has the added advantage that for users a problem will usually only impact either inbound or outbound mail. Would you really rather they were handled together so that a problem with mail in one direction impacts the other? -- I have only a small flickering light to guide me in the darkness of a thick forest. Up comes a theologian and blows it out. - Dennis Diderot Steph Peters, Manchester, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scanned by WinProxy http://www.Ositis.com/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] How strange
On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 15:31:59 +0100, Brenda wrote: On 10 Apr 2004, at 12:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The bit in brackets I had put in as a pound sign and figures but it disappeared in transit. That's because the pound sign is in the upper ASCII set. Each ASCII number represents one character. The lower set (0-127) are standard across all platforms but the upper set (128-255) vary according to the operating system and program in use. 0-127 include all the capital and lower case letters, numbers and the commoner punctuation marks, but accented letters, pound, euro, yen etc are all upper set and may well get changed or even disappear in cyberspace. (Dollar sign $ is lower set, probably because of the American dominance in computing). That's why in emails you should use GBP or or write 'pounds' and 'pence' Well ASCII stands for American Standard Code for Information Interchange (or something very similar), which explains the dollar sign. When ASCII was invented, there were other common competing standards for encoding letters. One of these is EBCDIC used by IBM mainframes. The creators of ASCII were making a standard for America and so chose characters appropriate to America. However it was inevitable that one way of encoding would become dominant to make communication easier. Some problems could have been avoided if a more international coding set had been enforced, but the dominance of ASCII was not a deliberate decision by anyone. The time has long passed when changing to a different international standard would have been feasible, so now we're stuck with ASCII and its consequences. -- The young always have the same problem - how to rebel and conform at the same time. They have now solved this by defying their parents and copying one another. Quentin Crisp Steph Peters, Manchester, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scanned by WinProxy http://www.Ositis.com/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] sprung back, happy time change
On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 09:38:54 -0700 (PDT), Bev wrote: oh sure Happy Time Change everyone. Not. This is my least favourite time of year. I wouldn't mind so much if there was a logical and substantial reason. Have yet to hear one from any expert - they are all perfectly vague. Someone at the grocery checkout was quite optimistic - they said 'it will be lighter in the evenings now' - but two weeks from now it will be lighter in the evenings anyway, with the lengthening daylight. I propose an international experiment. I propose that we don't change the clocks at all for a year and see if there are any dire consequences. blah. Your experiment was done in UK in the early 70's. It was horrible. I was walking about a mile to school in the winters of 1972/73 and 73/74. In mid winter it didn't get light until about 9-9.15 am, well after I had to be in school at 8.30am. And bear in mind that I lived in the north of England, which is south of the UK north-south midpoint. I would imagine that in much of Scotland it didn't get light till 10.30. The supposed benefit was that children would be coming home from school in the light, but in fact there were more additional traffic accidents in the mornings than the reduction in the afternoons. Couldn't someone have worked out in advance that UK school times mean that children go to school during the same peak hour when adults are going to work, but the children come home earlier? The experiment was considered a failure all round and is (I sincerely hope) never to be repeated. -- Always proof-read carefully to see if you any words out. Steph Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tatting, lace stitching page http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm Scanned by WinProxy http://www.Ositis.com/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Video recorder and DVD question
On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 13:37:53 EDT, Patricia wrote: My video recorder is on its last legs and I'm thinking about a replacement. Can anyone advise if a combined videao recorder and DVD player is a good idea? I ask because a combined washer/drier doesn't last as long as separate machines and I wondered if the same might apply to recorders. Whatever I buy will be at the lower end of the price range, whether it be the combined machine or two separate ones. Just the same as washing machines, even more so at the bottom end of the price range. Unless you really need minimum physical size, 2 machines will be better, and not necessarily more expensive. A DVD player and video don't have much in common. The mechanism to read a DVD is a laser, whereas a video recorder uses tape heads and a TV tuner. The output to the TV is the same, but this is only a small part of the whole thing so there isn't any great saving on parts by putting both in the same box. At least with a washer/dryer they share the same drum and rotation mechanism so there is a saving to be had. Another question. Are the DVD systems in Britain and the US compatable? i'd like to be ablt to send British DVDs to America as presents. DVDs come in 'region' variants. There's a region for US, a region for Europe, a region for the Pacific (Australia, New Zealand, China etc) and I think a fourth one I can't remember. Disks are encoded to one of these regions and can only be played on a player that can handle that region. In UK many (maybe even most) DVD players sold are either already compatible with all regions, or can easily (and legally) be made so by a small change after purchase. However multi-region players are not universally available. I believe that they are not widely sold in US. I think that changing a player to multi-region after purchase might even be illegal under US copyright laws that forbid reverse engineering. Check with your intended recipients before sending. -- Always proof-read carefully to see if you any words out. Steph Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tatting, lace stitching page http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm Scanned by WinProxy http://www.Ositis.com/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] button boxes
On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 08:30:36 -0800 (PST), Bev wrote: The button box has a masculine equivalent - the nuts-and-bolts jars that guys seem to have in their workshops (in my case there are many on shelves throughout the house. Want some?) - so maybe if your daughter doesn't find enough button boxes, she could tap into the metal bits resource. Nuts and bolts jars are far too useful to be exclusively masculine. Mine are mainly in tins rather than jars sorted by type of item - a tin for nails, one for screws, one for nuts and bolts, one for washers etc. Then there are items sorted by usage. A plastic film canister is just the right size to take a small selection of the washers, screws, allen nuts etc used on my bike and lives at the bottom of my pannier, with a small multi-tool screwdriver/allen key/spanner. This has proved its worth on many occasions, enabling me to do emergency repairs to get home. Indeed I used the screwdriver bit today, to turn a broken off key in a cheap bike lock so that I could unlock my bike and bring my shopping home without having to leave the bike locked up at the supermarket. I've got a button jar too, but its contents get used a lot less often than the nails, screws etc. -- We learn from experience that men never learn anything from experience. - Oscar Wilde Steph Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tatting, lace stitching page http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm Scanned by WinProxy http://www.Ositis.com/ To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Krienek Japan Silver thread
On Fri, 5 Mar 2004 16:49:59 -0800 (PST), you wrote: Has anyone used Krienek Japan silver metallic thread? I bought a skein in a haberdashery shop in England. Even though it is made in the U.S. I had not seen it over here. Does anyone know if it tarnishes? This is not a lace question as I am using the thread for knitting a beaded bracelet and someone at my lace group wondered it it would tarnish like the DMC metallic thread has a tendency to do. I have used this thread on a piece of canvaswork. I started the piece in 1996, and had it mounted in a frame in 1996 or 1997. It shows no signs of tarnish. -- Beware of computer programmers that carry screwdrivers. Leonard Brandwein Steph Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tatting, lace stitching page http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Extractor hoods
Everyone seems to assume that my new kitchen should have an extractor hood. They aren't cheap, especially the sort intended for use above hobs on an island, which is what I'd need. I don't have a hood now, and get on fine without one. So I'd like some opinions from hood owners. Why did you get a hood, what does it achieve and how effective is it? Has anyone got a recirculating rather than a ducted one, and if so does it work well? Is replacing and cleaning filters a pain? Our kitchen is high, there's a 2 metre gap between the hob and the ceiling, which means that most hoods will only reach down to about 1 metre above the hob, and I'm wondering if that's too far away to be effective. How far above a gas hob is your hood situated? -- Excuse me. This life isn't working. I want to exchange it. Steph Peters, Manchester, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Haiku computer error messges? for real?
On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 15:38:35 +1100 (EST), Ruth wrote: Incidentally, my plain English translation of the traditional illegal operation message is: Dear mistress, I've tried and tried to do what you ask, but for some reason I can't quite manage it!! As a software engineer, my translation of illegal operation is: The company producing this software didn't test the program properly to find this problem before selling it, or decided to sell the program anyway without fixing the problem Illegal operation means that the programmer either made a mistake, or didn't anticipate something a user could do. It isn't possible to avoid these problems totally, which is why programs should to be tested and then fixed before they are used. However in practice the public are often used as testers and the fixes for even common programs are in a later version. The illegal bit means the programmer allowed the program to try to use bits of memory that program wasn't controlling. The operating system tries to stop one program using another program's memory, since otherwise one program could corrupt other things on the computer. So the operating system considers the operation 'illegal'. Any program I write has a slightly friendlier catch all error message saying something like an unexpected error has occurred and this program must now close. It isn't very informative because it only ever appears when something went wrong that I didn't foresee, but hopefully it's somewhat less alarming. -- Fatal mouse error. (B)ury or (R)eplace? Steph Peters, Manchester, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Using mobile phones in the car
On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:50:45 +1100 (EST), Ruth wrote: Jean, here in Australia we must use a hands free when driving. In practice, many drivers do not use a hands free, but they face a hefty fine if caught. Many times I've wished I was a policewoman!!! Now we're trying to face the problem of how to police text-messaging, after a young girl, driving at speed and illegally holding her phone to write a text message at the same time, hit and killed someone.Out here you can go to gaol for causing a death in a traffic accident, so at the age of 22, she was facing a long time in gaol. After pleas from the victim's family, she was not sent to gaol - a very lucky young lady! The UK law is more general - it covers text messages as well as phone calls, also faxes, documents and use of the internet on anything hand held. There has been a similar case in England where a driver texting killed a cyclist, but the UK driver was only given a disqualification. -- The man who makes no mistakes does not usually make anything. William Connor Magee Steph Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tatting, lace stitching page http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Your guess is as good as mine
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 08:07:09 -0400, Clay wrote: This is a funny little book, and I bought it not long ago for that outrageous cover! And yes, we really did wear our skirts that short in the 60's! (Well, maybe not THAT short.) There must be a lot of these books about, since one turned up on Saturday at North West Lacemakers on the members' sales table. I'm fairly sure that even at 50 pence it didn't get bought. People weren't in a buying mood, I couldn't even sell a spare copy of Practical Skills by Bridget Cook. -- The photographer is like the cod, which produces a million eggs in order that one may reach maturity. - George Bernard Shaw Steph Peters, Manchester, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: strange words
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 05:45:36 -0700, Joy wrote: I'm sort of writing a fantasy story -- at one point a sixteen-year-old witch enters a sewing room filled with student wisewomen. One of the girls exclaims What a groovy gown! (It's a perma-press print, very exotic in fantasyland.) But of course she can't say groovy or swelligant or rad or far out. And every time I try a synonym for something teenagers really say, it's either something already in use or something that doesn't sound teenagery at all. Maybe I'll spell awesome phonetically and say she picked it up from the witch. Or have her call it the witch-beast's jama suit and hope no reader is old enough to recognize it. I have a cookbook that contains a recipe for 'Ossum' salad, so named because a US visitor to UK was very impressed, and that's how it sounded in his accent. -- War is a series of catastrophes which result in victory. Albert Pike Steph Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tatting, lace stitching page http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: Peeling Onions
On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 22:25:04 -0400, Tamara wrote: What, BTW, are Spanish onions? Someone -- I think in UK -- has mentioned them... Are they the red ones, like the ones used for gazpacho? Spanish onions are onions grown in Spain. Not a particular variety, although the Spanish ones do tend to be generally bigger than UK grown ones. Red onions are just called red onions here, and I couldn't tell you where they are grown. -- Is not the whole world a vast house of assignation to which the filing system has been lost? Quentin Crisp Steph Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tatting, lace stitching page http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/index.htm To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [lace-chat] Re: and *your* library
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 01:13:29 -0400, Tamara wrote: On Monday, Jun 23, 2003, at 23:17 US/Eastern, Toni Hawryluk wrote: There's free ? speech ? http://www.msnbc.com/news/930166.asp?vts=3D062320031215cp1=3D1 I don't want to see porn on the web huge snip But would you want to be able to research breast cancer, or your male friends and relatives to be able to research testicular cancer? Filters are very crude tools. They falsely identify sites as porn that aren't. They are also not totally effective - some porn sites will get past. So filters don't achieve the ends desired by those who impose them, and prevent access to non-pornographic information about health. Steph In favour of 100% free speech, including looking at pornography if I want to. To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: [lace] Angela back on line
On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 16:31:55 EDT, Jeri wrote: In a message dated 6/19/03 2:49:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As requested, I will send the Mountain Adventure to Lace-Chat only and anyone else on Lace who wants it separately. --- To Whomever Requested Angela Write to Chat Only: Why was Angela told she could not simply write to both lists? Angela asked a question about posting to both lists. I responded by asking Angela to please only post to one list, to lace if her travel report has lace content and to chat if not. Angela has chosen to post the report to lace chat so I assume that she considers the report does not have lace content. I'm sure that Angela can be relied on to send information about lace to the lace list. The rules of the lace and lace chat lists are that messages should be posted to one list or the other, but not both. I find this rule very sensible. It gives members the ability to control what they receive by selecting the list appropriate for their interests and the amount of time which they wish to allocate to the lists. It has the added benefit of keeping costs down for those who pay phone or internet charges based on time or download size. Since this is an international list some members are unable to get the fixed price or unlimited time deals available in some countries. I make no apology for reminding everyone to try to send their messages to just one list. -- It is explained that all relationships require a little give and take. This is untrue. Any partnership demands that we give and give and give and at the last, as we flop into our graves exhausted, we are told that we didn't give enough. Quentin Crisp Steph Peters, Manchester, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[lace-chat] Re: [lace] Re: back from Mystery Tour
On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 18:58:20 +0100, Angela wrote: So many Spiders have written to ask me to send my Amazing Mountain Adventures, some members are on Lace only, some on Chat only. Would it offend anybody if I sent it to both Lists? I dislike messages being sent to both lists. The list rules clearly state lace stuff to lace, everything else to chat, and nothing to both. As described this tale doesn't contain lace, so it belongs on chat - unless there is lace content not mentioned in the description. List members decide which list(s) to join on the basis of their interests and the time they want to devote to reading. In my opinion it is not for individual authors of messages to overrule the choice of a list member about what to receive. The tendency for messages that authors consider important (other than list announcements) to be sent to both lists just fills up mailboxes with material people do not want and do not read. The end result is that some people leave because they cannot keep up with the volume of messages. Those of us who belong to both lists don't want messages twice. So please decide which list your adventures are appropriate for and send them to that list only. (This message sent only to chat as it has no lace content.) -- Stupidity is an elemental force for which no earthquake is a match. Karl Kraus Steph Peters, Manchester, England [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace-chat [EMAIL PROTECTED]
