RE: [LegacyUG] Check/repair error

[ronald ferguson]

Michele,
 
Have you looked at these records, as it would seem that you have a reference to 
a repository which is no longer in your records?



Ron Ferguson

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> From: cranberryf...@charter.net
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Check/repair error
> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 20:23:01 -0500
>
> Whenever I run the check/repair I get the following error. I get this exact
> same error EVERY time I run the check/repair. I am not sure how to fix
> this.
>
>
> Check/Repair of Legacy Family File: C:\Legacy\Data\Michele's Family.fdb
> Date: 01-10-2009
> Please check this file very carefully.
> It's a good idea to run another Check/Repair after you verify the items in
> this file.
>
>
> ==
> There are 3 Source Repository record(s) referred to that do not exist:
> ==
>
> Source Name=Marriage Records - MS - Clarke Co - Marriage Book A-B (white
> marriages) 1853-1867 (FHL microfilm 890132). The Repository reference has
> been removed.
>
> Source Name=Probate Records - MS - Hinds Co - Will Book 1 September Term
> 1833 (FHL microfilm 878728). The Repository reference has been removed.
>
> Source Name=Probate Records - MS - Jasper Co - Will Book 1, 2nd District
> 1855-1944. The Repository reference has been removed.
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Physical Description - event missing form Legacy provided list

[ronald ferguson]

Belinda,
 
Why not just add Event/Fact definitions as you want them? View>Master 
Lists>Event Definitions>Add



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> From: jctr...@charter.net
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Physical Description - event missing form Legacy 
> provided list
> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 21:50:55 -0600
>
> Belinda,
> I'm having a similar problem with getting my complete Child Status list.
> In the Master List Event Definitions, select Options, then Import. You can
> try importing the default list or Import from Sample file. Please read
> about this first as I believe it adds to your list those events not there
> and doesn't write over (like that would be helpful), but please read first.
> Regards, Jane Tripp
> - Original Message -
> From: Belinda
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 9:16 PM
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Physical Description - event missing form Legacy
> provided list
>
>
> Thanks Jenny and John for your replies.
>
> Now here is where it gets interesting. I'd actually looked to see if it was
> provided as one of the events/facts before I had posted to the LUG but it
> isn't there... and I've checked again after receiving your messages.
>
> How do I get it back...and any others that might have gone with it without
> loosing the new ones that I have added to the list?
>
> Suggestions with this would be also be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Belinda
>
> -Original Message-
> From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
> Of Jenny M Benson
> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 10:42 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Physical Description
>
> Jenny wrote -
> I have used the Physical Description Fact/Event. This is one of the
> Legacy-provided Facts/Events.
>
> (I have deliberately used the wording "Facts/Events" because I think
> perhaps people sometimes forget that although often just "Event" is
> used, for simplicity, the heading "Event/Fact" is used in Legacy in a
> few places and if you look up "Fact" in the Help you will be directed to
> "Event" pages. So Events don't have to be just Events, they can be
> Facts as well!)
> --
> Jenny M Benson
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Ver 6 Deluxe Check/Repair error 3265 Child Status error for many many entries

[ronald ferguson]

Jane,
 
I suggest that you need to contact Sherry at support direct, attaching a copy 
of your .fdb file. I do not think that you can sort this out.



Ron Ferguson

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> From: jctr...@charter.net
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Ver 6 Deluxe Check/Repair error 3265 Child Status error 
> for many many entries
> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 21:34:57 -0600
>
> Legacy 6 deluxe produces a 3265 error each time I run Check/Repair. This
> hang up is in step 103 or 104 of the 143 steps in the Check/Repair.
> The maintenance log reveals
> "1910 Child Status Records referred to that do not exist"
> We have added a new Child Status '!Fix this Child Status - 1' and the
> following records now point to this new temporary status. From the Master
> Child Status list you can edit this record and change it to the correct
> value.
>
> There are no records listed following this statemant.
> I added another child to check, and sure enough, I'm up to 1911 Child
> Status Records referred to that do not exist.
>
> For error 3265 I did delete the .DMB files, downloaded and installed ver 6
> again (did not uninstall 6 as it was indicated installing again would just
> fill in those missing files), and rebooted my computer from a cold start
> before looking at Legacy again.
> I believe this child status error is coming from the fact that I don't have
> a "BLANK LINE" child status.
> Under options in this Master list, I tried importing defaults
> (successfully), importing the child status list from the sample file
> (successfully), but cannot get that first line of the list to show a blank
> record.
> I looked at the Child-Parent Relationship list and that list does have the
> first line blank. If I try to edit that line, I get a message that it is a
> blank record used by Legacy.
> I'm guessing Legacy uses this Blank Record Line with every child entry. The
> fact that mine is now missing and every child I entered since -well, a long
> time ago is missing this Child Status of blank status and triggering an
> error in my Check/Repair log.
> Any suggestions as to the 'correct value' referred to in my maintenance log
> referred to above?
> Any suggestions as to importing a valid Child Status List that has that
> blank record line? (I did try saving a 'blank' but that was not allowed.)
> Obviously, my last Check/Repair was run 1911 child entries ago.
> Regards, Jane Tripp
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Flash Drive

[MICHELLE CROSBY]

Good Evening from snowy and cold Illinois- please be very careful with flash 
drives- as a supervisor of a computer dept- I have seen
many a customer lose their flash drives or break them or not remove them after 
using them- its always a good idea to have  a portable HD to back up your 
files- and of course old fashion paper.

Shelly
  - Original Message - 
  From: RobinH 
  To: 
LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 
  Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 9:02 PM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Flash Drive


  Very true but I suspect that the flash drive or something like it will 
  be around for a long time. In fact if I were a manufacturer of hard 
  drives I would be getting into the solid-state technology as fast as I 
  could, and I think many are doing just that.

  I started with the Commodore C64 and then the Amiga: what you could do 
  with a whole megabyte of RAM if the operating system was lean and mean! 
  So I've seen things change a lot.

  Robin (cracking his buggy whip)

  Elizabeth Richardson wrote:
  > It is good to remember that technology does advance and change. I had 
  > a Zip drive (could hold 100mb) many years ago before you could save to 
  > a CD (670mb) and it was the only way you could save large files 
  > (floppies were 1.44mb). Of course, that has gone the way of buggy 
  > whips. I suspect the same will happen to flash drives.




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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources not printing on To-Do Lists

[Jennifer Trahan]

Well, that's a good question. I recently started doing it as part of my ongoing 
organization plan. Once I consult a source for a task on an individual's to-do 
list, I then attach that source to that to-do item. I keep a printed to-do list 
in the individual's file folder. If I see that a source is referenced on the 
to-do report, I can easily see that it is closed. (Of course, I can also glance 
at the status line to see if the task has been closed). Overall, the main 
reason I attach sources to to-do tasks is that I like to know what source I 
consulted to accomplish that particular to-do task. I don't usually attach a 
source until I actually complete the task b/c sometimes it's hard to know 
enough about the source beforehand (i.e. the exact marriage license number or 
year). Of course, if it is a database, you probably could at least put the name 
of the database and it's URL as the source. But on the other hand, I would 
probably just put that info in the
 task description. Then I would put the exact source after I was finished with 
the task. I was just frustrated b/c I think the sources were printing perfectly 
fine before these most recent upgrades. I was so busy around the holidays that 
I haven't really used Legacy much in the last month or so since the updates 
came out. When I came back to it today, I had two things not functioning that 
were previously functioning when 7.0 first came out. I reported both of them to 
Legacy support. 



- Original Message 
From: Elizabeth Richardson 
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 7:33:58 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Sources not printing on To-Do Lists

I'm not using the To Do Lists right, I guess. One of my To Dos, for example, is 
to search a specific online cemetery database for a fellow and his descendants. 
I know he's buried there as are most of his siblings and 20 or more of his 
cousins. It's just too many lines to search all at once, so I reminded myself 
to do it later. I do have that source in my database, but have not attached it 
to the To Do.

Why do you have sources attached to a To Do List? And by the way, your 
frustration is coming through loud and clear and if I did what I think I 
understand you're doing, I would be frustrated too!

Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson

- Original Message - From: "Jennifer Trahan" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 4:07 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Sources not printing on To-Do Lists


> I'm about to explode. If I find that one other thing has been taken away 
> since upgrading to the latest 7.0 version I tried to print a To-Do list 
> for an individual, and numerical references to the footnotes appear in the 
> text of the report, but at the end of the report, there are no source 
> citations printed. My source page looks like this:
> 
> 1
> 2
> 3
> 4
> 5
> 
> Just the numbers of the footnotes and no citations there. This has to be a 
> bug. I double and triple checked all the report options. I know the sources 
> used to print fine b/c I have a copy sitting in front of me with sources 
> printed perfectly from 20 Oct 2008 before all the upgrades. Could someone 
> check this for me? I think I'm going crazy.
> 
> 




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Re: [LegacyUG] Physical Description - event missing form Legacy provided list

[JCTripp]

Belinda,
I'm having a similar problem with getting my complete Child Status list.
In the Master List Event Definitions, select Options, then Import. You can 
try importing the default list or Import from Sample file. Please read 
about this first as I believe it adds to your list those events not there 
and doesn't write over (like that would be helpful), but please read first.
Regards, Jane Tripp
- Original Message - 
From: Belinda
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 9:16 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Physical Description - event missing form Legacy 
provided list


Thanks Jenny and John for your replies.

Now here is where it gets interesting. I'd actually looked to see if it was 
provided as one of the events/facts before I had posted to the LUG but it
isn't there... and I've checked again after receiving your messages.

How do I get it back...and any others that might have gone with it without 
loosing the new ones that I have added to the list?

Suggestions with this would be also be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Belinda

-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Jenny M Benson
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 10:42 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Physical Description

Jenny wrote -
I have used the Physical Description Fact/Event.  This is one of the
Legacy-provided Facts/Events.

(I have deliberately used the wording "Facts/Events" because I think
perhaps people sometimes forget that although often just "Event" is
used, for simplicity, the heading "Event/Fact" is used in Legacy in a
few places and if you look up "Fact" in the Help you will be directed to
"Event" pages.  So Events don't have to be just Events, they can be
Facts as well!)
-- 
Jenny M Benson





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[LegacyUG] Ver 6 Deluxe Check/Repair error 3265 Child Status error for many many entries

[JCTripp]

Legacy 6 deluxe produces a 3265 error each time I run Check/Repair. This 
hang up is in step 103 or 104 of the 143 steps in the Check/Repair.
The maintenance log reveals
"1910 Child Status Records referred to that do not exist"
We have added a new Child Status '!Fix this Child Status - 1' and the 
following records now point to this new temporary status. From the Master 
Child Status list you can edit this record and change it to the correct 
value.

There are no records listed following this statemant.
I added another child to check, and sure enough, I'm up to 1911 Child 
Status Records referred to that do not exist.

For error 3265 I did delete the .DMB files, downloaded and installed ver 6 
again (did not uninstall 6 as it was indicated installing again would just 
fill in those missing files), and rebooted my computer from a cold start 
before looking at Legacy again.
I believe this child status error is coming from the fact that I don't have 
a "BLANK LINE" child status.
Under options in this Master list, I tried importing defaults 
(successfully), importing the child status list from the sample file 
(successfully), but cannot get that first line of the list to show a blank 
record.
I looked at the Child-Parent Relationship list and that list does have the 
first line blank. If I try to edit that line, I get a message that it is a 
blank record used by Legacy.
I'm guessing Legacy uses this Blank Record Line with every child entry. The 
fact that mine is now missing and every child I entered since -well, a long 
time ago is missing this Child Status of blank status and triggering an 
error in my Check/Repair log.
Any suggestions as to the 'correct value' referred to in my maintenance log 
referred to above?
Any suggestions as to importing a valid Child Status List that has that 
blank record line? (I did try saving a 'blank' but that was not allowed.)
Obviously, my last Check/Repair was run 1911 child entries ago.
Regards, Jane Tripp
 




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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!

[Elizabeth Richardson]

JL - my resistance is more to those of you who don't know me nor how I do 
research telling me I need one. I'm getting ready to leave for Phoenix in 
the morning to walk a half marathon which will be the first of seven such 
events I'll be doing in 2009. I probably don't need to do this and I'm sure 
many of you wouldn't want to. But I'm not here telling you that you need to 
do it nor trying to convince you that you should want to do it.


Yes, I know where all my files are. Trust me, they aren't scattered around a 
bunch of flash drives and I'm not taking them with me.


Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson

- Original Message - 
From: "JLB" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!


It's hard for me to fathom anyone having so much resistance to a 
flash-drive.  It's the size of a pack of gum, wildly useful for all kinds 
of reasons and harmless.  I don't 'need' to have my genealogy with me when 
I leave my house (also going to the grocery store or the post office most 
often) except as another form of backup.  Just trying to keep all my bases 
covered.  Do you know where *all* your files are and where you would find 
another copy if you lose one set?

-
JL
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog

Elizabeth Richardson wrote:


JL - I never said "you" don't need a flash drive.  But I can't imagine 
wanting (let alone needing) to take my genealogy files with me every time 
I leave the house. My life is obviously quite different than yours as I 
often leave my house to go for a walk or to go to the grocery store or 
post office. I was reacting to Robin telling me I "needed" (sorry, Robin) 
a flash drive, which I don't.


Elizabeth
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RE: [LegacyUG] Physical Description - event missing form Legacy provided list

[Belinda]

Thanks Jenny and John for your replies. 

Now here is where it gets interesting. I'd actually looked to see if it was
provided as one of the events/facts before I had posted to the LUG but it
isn't there... and I've checked again after receiving your messages.

How do I get it back...and any others that might have gone with it without
loosing the new ones that I have added to the list?

Suggestions with this would be also be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, 

Belinda

-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Jenny M Benson
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 10:42 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Physical Description

Jenny wrote - 
I have used the Physical Description Fact/Event.  This is one of the 
Legacy-provided Facts/Events.

(I have deliberately used the wording "Facts/Events" because I think 
perhaps people sometimes forget that although often just "Event" is 
used, for simplicity, the heading "Event/Fact" is used in Legacy in a 
few places and if you look up "Fact" in the Help you will be directed to 
"Event" pages.  So Events don't have to be just Events, they can be 
Facts as well!)
-- 
Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!

[JLB]

It's hard for me to fathom anyone having so much resistance to a 
flash-drive.  It's the size of a pack of gum, wildly useful for all 
kinds of reasons and harmless.  I don't 'need' to have my genealogy with 
me when I leave my house (also going to the grocery store or the post 
office most often) except as another form of backup.  Just trying to 
keep all my bases covered.  Do you know where *all* your files are and 
where you would find another copy if you lose one set?

-
JL
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog

Elizabeth Richardson wrote:


JL - I never said "you" don't need a flash drive.  But I can't imagine 
wanting (let alone needing) to take my genealogy files with me every 
time I leave the house. My life is obviously quite different than 
yours as I often leave my house to go for a walk or to go to the 
grocery store or post office. I was reacting to Robin telling me I 
"needed" (sorry, Robin) a flash drive, which I don't.


Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson





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Re: [LegacyUG] Flash Drive

[RobinH]

Very true but I suspect that the flash drive or something like it will 
be around for a long time. In fact if I were a manufacturer of hard 
drives I would be getting into the solid-state technology as fast as I 
could, and I think many are doing just that.


I started with the Commodore C64 and then the Amiga: what you could do 
with a whole megabyte of RAM if the operating system was lean and mean! 
So I've seen things change a lot.


Robin (cracking his buggy whip)

Elizabeth Richardson wrote:
It is good to remember that technology does advance and change. I had 
a Zip drive (could hold 100mb) many years ago before you could save to 
a CD (670mb) and it was the only way you could save large files 
(floppies were 1.44mb). Of course, that has gone the way of buggy 
whips. I suspect the same will happen to flash drives.





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RE: [LegacyUG] Flash Drive

[Red Sanders]

Many of us typically evaluate messages in a forum as to how they pertain 
specifically to ourselves.  And we may decide that a message or thread has 
little or no value.  However, given the number of folks that subscribe to this 
group, chances are that some/many folks will see something that relates to 
them, and provides new insight.  This is true whether it be a flash drive, a 
feature of Legacy, or a technique being used.   My personal example is that I 
am very familiar with flash drives, and have used them for as long as they have 
been available, even distributing many to technology-savy folks in my school 
district.  However, I know that given the richness of experience of this 
groups, chances are that I'll still pick up something that I didn't think of.  
So, I read every message - as I do with others that at don't appear at first to 
have a value to me.  
 
In summary, the messages I best enjoy are those that provide uses, or alternate 
methods.
 
Red Sanders> From: erich...@worldnet.att.net> To: 
LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Flash Drive> 
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 16:27:12 -0900> > Mary, none of my family has ever lived 
where I live (my children left here > more than 20 years ago). No one related 
to me will ever be in my local > newspaper, other than my husband. I have 
inter-library loaned micro-filmed > newspapers, but that was many years ago. We 
have a very small family history > center that is open on an on call basis. I 
used it very extensively for many > years - was able to accurately state that I 
used it more hours than any > local LDS member for about 5 years. But I don't 
use it any more because so > much is now on the internet. It is possible that 
I'll want to use it > sometime in the distant future. Technology may have 
advanced by that time so > that I'll probably be able to e-mail myself any 
images.> > It is good to remember that technology does advance and change. I 
had a Zip > drive (could hold 100mb) many years ago before you could save to a 
CD > (670mb) and it was the only way you could save large files (floppies were 
> 1.44mb). Of course, that has gone the way of buggy whips. I suspect the same 
> will happen to flash drives.> > Elizabeth> researching the descendants of 
William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson> > - Original Message - > From: 
"M. Brenzel" > To: 
> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 4:01 
PM> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Flash Drive> > > Elizabeth,> > Sorry for continuing 
this now off-topic discussion.> > Consider this use for a flash drive. Maybe 
you will think that it is > something you could not only use but need.> > My 
local library has the local newspaper on microfilm. We have a microfilm > 
reader connected to a computer. I can view pages of the newspaper, zoom in > on 
the article of interest and scan it to the computer. Once scannned, I > save 
the image to my flash drive to take home. I then load it onto my > computer.> > 
My local Family History Center likewise has a microfilm reader connected to > a 
computer that I can use the same way.> > Mary> > -Original Message-> 
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf > 
Of Elizabeth Richardson> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 7:07 PM> To: 
LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!> 
> Robin, actually, I did know what a flash drive is, and, believe me, I do not> 
want or need a flash drive. I have one computer and will not be transferring> 
stuff, although I did transfer stuff via disks from my old computer to this> 
one. I do have a 500gb external hard drive for additional backups. I don't> 
wear jewelry, so why would I want to WEAR a flash drive. Can't think of> 
anything so frivolous is the only nice way to say what I think about that.> And 
let me add that my husband think you don't NEED a computer. Not everyone> has a 
you need the latest and greatest keep up with the Jones lifestyle.> Need and 
want really are different.> > Elizabeth> researching the descendants of William 
and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson> > Legacy User Group guidelines:> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!

[Elizabeth Richardson]

JL - I never said "you" don't need a flash drive.  But I can't imagine 
wanting (let alone needing) to take my genealogy files with me every time I 
leave the house. My life is obviously quite different than yours as I often 
leave my house to go for a walk or to go to the grocery store or post 
office. I was reacting to Robin telling me I "needed" (sorry, Robin) a flash 
drive, which I don't.


Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson

- Original Message - 
From: "JLB" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!


Need/want is all relative.  I carry  37 GB on flash-drives every time I 
leave my house.  It's a big deal in a small pocket.  That includes all my 
Ancestor files and I consider that 'need'.   I also back up elsewhere but 
... losing any of it would constitute a very bad day. -

JL
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog

Gary wrote:


I'd like to add, if you are going to flash memory for backup, use 
something in addition too. I backup to a hard drive on my network and 
also use online storage. Flash memory one limitation is it's life span, 
it has limited erase-write cycles. They can sometimes die quickly.



- Original Message - From: "RobinH" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!



Elizabeth (and others who don't know what a flash drive is...)

My wife, who would not claim to be a techno-freak, has just handed her 
poems to me. She typed them on a laptop and then transferred them to me 
on a flash drive so I could put them in my desk top computer for 
printing out.


You may have seen them without knowing: they are maybe 2 cm wide and 5 
cm long and fit into a USB port.  They don't cost much, come in various 
attractive colours and some are even ornamental and can be worn round 
your neck as a pendant. They contain maybe 2,4,8 or even more GIGABYTES 
of files.


You DO need one!

Best wishes from New Zealand

Robin Hoare


Elizabeth Richardson wrote:
That response is regarding backing up to a flash drive. I do not have a 
flash drive, and, since I don't know what one is, and am not likely to 
ever need/want one.









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Re: [LegacyUG] Prompt for detail?

[Michele Lewis]

Thank you, Judy :) :) :)

michele

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To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Prompt for detail?



I had the same difficulty after upgrading - the new upgrade also copies the
source detail each time the source is used.

Go to the tool bar>Options>Customize>Sources>Right hand side, towards the
bottom>Source Clipboard Prompt For Detail>Select Default to off.

Solved the problem for me.

Judy





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Subject: [LegacyUG] Prompt for detail?



Ever since I upgraded, it defaults to "prompt for detail." How do I turn
that off?

michele




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Re: [LegacyUG] Sources not printing on To-Do Lists

[Elizabeth Richardson]

I'm not using the To Do Lists right, I guess. One of my To Dos, for example, 
is to search a specific online cemetery database for a fellow and his 
descendants. I know he's buried there as are most of his siblings and 20 or 
more of his cousins. It's just too many lines to search all at once, so I 
reminded myself to do it later. I do have that source in my database, but 
have not attached it to the To Do.


Why do you have sources attached to a To Do List? And by the way, your 
frustration is coming through loud and clear and if I did what I think I 
understand you're doing, I would be frustrated too!


Elizabeth
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- Original Message - 
From: "Jennifer Trahan" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 4:07 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Sources not printing on To-Do Lists


I'm about to explode. If I find that one other thing has been taken away 
since upgrading to the latest 7.0 version I tried to print a To-Do 
list for an individual, and numerical references to the footnotes appear 
in the text of the report, but at the end of the report, there are no 
source citations printed. My source page looks like this:


1
2
3
4
5

Just the numbers of the footnotes and no citations there. This has to be a 
bug. I double and triple checked all the report options. I know the 
sources used to print fine b/c I have a copy sitting in front of me with 
sources printed perfectly from 20 Oct 2008 before all the upgrades. Could 
someone check this for me? I think I'm going crazy.








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Re: [LegacyUG] Flash Drive

[Elizabeth Richardson]

Mary, none of my family has ever lived where I live (my children left here 
more than 20 years ago). No one related to me will ever be in my local 
newspaper, other than my husband. I have inter-library loaned micro-filmed 
newspapers, but that was many years ago. We have a very small family history 
center that is open on an on call basis. I used it very extensively for many 
years - was able to accurately state that I used it more hours than any 
local LDS member for about 5 years. But I don't use it any more because so 
much is now on the internet. It is possible that I'll want to use it 
sometime in the distant future. Technology may have advanced by that time so 
that I'll probably be able to e-mail myself any images.


It is good to remember that technology does advance and change. I had a Zip 
drive (could hold 100mb) many years ago before you could save to a CD 
(670mb) and it was the only way you could save large files (floppies were 
1.44mb). Of course, that has gone the way of buggy whips. I suspect the same 
will happen to flash drives.


Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson

- Original Message - 
From: "M. Brenzel" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 4:01 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Flash Drive


Elizabeth,

Sorry for continuing this now off-topic discussion.

Consider this use for a flash drive.  Maybe you will think that it is 
something you could not only use but need.


My local library has the local newspaper on microfilm.  We have a microfilm 
reader connected to a computer.  I can view pages of the newspaper, zoom in 
on the article of interest and scan it to the computer.  Once scannned, I 
save the image to my flash drive to take home.  I then load it onto my 
computer.


My local Family History Center likewise has a microfilm reader connected to 
a computer that I can use the same way.


Mary

-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf 
Of Elizabeth Richardson

Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 7:07 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!

Robin, actually, I did know what a flash drive is, and, believe me, I do not
want or need a flash drive. I have one computer and will not be transferring
stuff, although I did transfer stuff via disks from my old computer to this
one. I do have a 500gb external hard drive for additional backups. I don't
wear jewelry, so why would I want to WEAR a flash drive. Can't think of
anything so frivolous is the only nice way to say what I think about that.
And let me add that my husband think you don't NEED a computer. Not everyone
has a you need the latest and greatest keep up with the Jones lifestyle.
Need and want really are different.

Elizabeth
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Re: [LegacyUG] UPGRADE after DELUXE 7 differences?

[Gary Templeman]

It is not uncommon to find significant changes between major versions such 
as 6 to 7. But I still wonder why is it being considered a problem. All 
programs have a learning curve anyway. If an update makes a small change, 
either to fix a bug, add a feature and so on, that just means a bit of 
adaptation on the user's part. While I agree that not all changes turn out 
to be good, I think we can both also agree that if there were never ANY 
changes, the program could not improve.


Gary

- Original Message - 
From: "Elizabeth Richardson" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] UPGRADE after DELUXE 7 differences?


Yep! The screens are different. I found the same problem when upgrading 
from v6 to v7 from the disks. Later updates are better. (And I didn't 
change computers nor monitors in the meantime.)


Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson

- Original Message - 
From: "Gary Templeman" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] UPGRADE after DELUXE 7 differences?


What screens, how different. Updates may make some subtle changes 
compared to the originally installed version, and artwork on boxes or 
disks does not always reflect the actual program. Things can also look 
different depending on monitor shape, resolution and the Windows themes 
one is using. Unless you are having a problem I wouldn't worry about it.


Gary Templeman

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From: 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 10:09 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] UPGRADE after DELUXE 7 differences?


It appears to me that my Legacy 7 Deluxe discs  may be slightly 
different

than my Legacy 7.0.0.86.  Is this right?   Screens appear different.







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Re: [LegacyUG] Prompt for detail?

[Judy]

I had the same difficulty after upgrading - the new upgrade also copies the 
source detail each time the source is used.


Go to the tool bar>Options>Customize>Sources>Right hand side, towards the 
bottom>Source Clipboard Prompt For Detail>Select Default to off.


Solved the problem for me.

Judy





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To: "Legacy E-Mail List" 
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 8:06 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Prompt for detail?


Ever since I upgraded, it defaults to "prompt for detail." How do I turn 
that off?


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[LegacyUG] Check/repair error

[Michele Lewis]

Whenever I run the check/repair I get the following error.  I get this exact 
same error EVERY time I run the check/repair.  I am not sure how to fix 
this.



Check/Repair of Legacy Family File: C:\Legacy\Data\Michele's Family.fdb
Date: 01-10-2009
Please check this file very carefully.
It's a good idea to run another Check/Repair after you verify the items in 
this file.



==
There are 3 Source Repository record(s) referred to that do not exist:
==

Source Name=Marriage Records - MS - Clarke Co - Marriage Book A-B (white 
marriages) 1853-1867 (FHL microfilm 890132).  The Repository reference has 
been removed.


Source Name=Probate Records - MS - Hinds Co - Will Book 1 September Term 
1833 (FHL microfilm 878728).  The Repository reference has been removed.


Source Name=Probate Records - MS - Jasper Co - Will Book 1, 2nd District 
1855-1944.  The Repository reference has been removed.








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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!

[JLB]

Need/want is all relative.  I carry  37 GB on flash-drives every time I 
leave my house.  It's a big deal in a small pocket.  That includes all 
my Ancestor files and I consider that 'need'.   I also back up elsewhere 
but ... losing any of it would constitute a very bad day. 
-

JL
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Gary wrote:


I'd like to add, if you are going to flash memory for backup, use 
something in addition too. I backup to a hard drive on my network and 
also use online storage. Flash memory one limitation is it's life 
span, it has limited erase-write cycles. They can sometimes die quickly.



- Original Message - From: "RobinH" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!



Elizabeth (and others who don't know what a flash drive is...)

My wife, who would not claim to be a techno-freak, has just handed 
her poems to me. She typed them on a laptop and then transferred them 
to me on a flash drive so I could put them in my desk top computer 
for printing out.


You may have seen them without knowing: they are maybe 2 cm wide and 
5 cm long and fit into a USB port.  They don't cost much, come in 
various attractive colours and some are even ornamental and can be 
worn round your neck as a pendant. They contain maybe 2,4,8 or even 
more GIGABYTES of files.


You DO need one!

Best wishes from New Zealand

Robin Hoare


Elizabeth Richardson wrote:
That response is regarding backing up to a flash drive. I do not 
have a flash drive, and, since I don't know what one is, and am not 
likely to ever need/want one.





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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!

[RobinH]

Kia ora  Elizabeth, I assure you that I myself don't wear a flash drive, 
attractive as they may be! Nor do I wear a mobile, and the only 
Blackberries I am acquainted with are edible. True, there can be 
problems with flash drives: fortunately I have yet to experience them - 
as there used to be with floppies, and still are with hard drives sometimes.
CD-ROMS too have been known to fail! The best policy is "belt and 
braces" or as Americans might say "belt and suspenders". Computers are 
an inanimate example of the fragility of "life"
I  live at the very end of a gravel road. We occasionally have people 
drive down (usually at midnight) who don't seem to understand "No 
Through Road" and then they have difficulty turning. If you have Google 
Earth type in "Rawene". Not very far from Cape Reinga where in Maori 
legend the spirits of the dead enter the ocean to make their way back to 
Hawa'i'iki. You might think it a good place to study genealogy!


Best wishes

Robin

Elizabeth Richardson wrote:
Sorry, Robin, I did not know that people would actually WEAR computer 
equipment, and you did add to my knowledge in that department. Made me 
shake my head wondering what this world is coming to, and so I did 
find some humor in your post. I cannot see how a flash drive makes 
using a computer "easier", though, and there have posts here regarding 
problems with them, which only confirms my suspicions. (I live in a 
town of 10,000, 700 air miles from anywhere over 50,000 population, 
and driving 20 miles in either direction from my house puts you smack 
dab in front of an "end of the road" sign, so remote is the way I 
describe my location.)





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[LegacyUG] Sources not printing on To-Do Lists

[Jennifer Trahan]

I'm about to explode. If I find that one other thing has been taken away since 
upgrading to the latest 7.0 version I tried to print a To-Do list for an 
individual, and numerical references to the footnotes appear in the text of the 
report, but at the end of the report, there are no source citations printed. My 
source page looks like this:

1
2
3
4
5

Just the numbers of the footnotes and no citations there. This has to be a bug. 
I double and triple checked all the report options. I know the sources used to 
print fine b/c I have a copy sitting in front of me with sources printed 
perfectly from 20 Oct 2008 before all the upgrades. Could someone check this 
for me? I think I'm going crazy. 



  



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Re: [LegacyUG] Subsequent Citations

[Ward Walker]

Ron,

I just did a quick check of 2 of the bugs that I had reported and they are 
still there. This includes the very fundamental one that Brenda has 
encountered.


(I had not observed nor reported the lost footnote issue.)

 Ward

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Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 4:34 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Subsequent Citations


Ward,

Have you checked since the last update was issued? By far the majority of 
problems have been resolved. I did notice that if a footnote was right at 
the bottom of the page then it could be lost, but as I cannot replicate it 
now I assumed this had been resolved. I was using the Descendant Report.


Ron Ferguson






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RE: [LegacyUG] Flash Drive

[M. Brenzel]

Elizabeth,

Sorry for continuing this now off-topic discussion.

Consider this use for a flash drive.  Maybe you will think that it is something 
you could not only use but need.

My local library has the local newspaper on microfilm.  We have a microfilm 
reader connected to a computer.  I can view pages of the newspaper, zoom in on 
the article of interest and scan it to the computer.  Once scannned, I save the 
image to my flash drive to take home.  I then load it onto my computer. 

My local Family History Center likewise has a microfilm reader connected to a 
computer that I can use the same way.

Mary

-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of 
Elizabeth Richardson
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 7:07 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!

Robin, actually, I did know what a flash drive is, and, believe me, I do not 
want or need a flash drive. I have one computer and will not be transferring 
stuff, although I did transfer stuff via disks from my old computer to this 
one. I do have a 500gb external hard drive for additional backups. I don't 
wear jewelry, so why would I want to WEAR a flash drive. Can't think of 
anything so frivolous is the only nice way to say what I think about that. 
And let me add that my husband think you don't NEED a computer. Not everyone 
has a you need the latest and greatest keep up with the Jones lifestyle. 
Need and want really are different.

Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson







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Re: [LegacyUG] All the POSTS! how to organize? Delete?

[Gary]

You can also access gmail from email clients like Eudora, Outlook, Outlook 
Express, etc... You have to set gmail up for pop or imap access to do this. 
I rarely check my gmail with a browser. No ads. :-)



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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] All the POSTS! how to organize? Delete?



Like Wendy, I recommend gmail. Another useful thing about gmail -- you
can set it up to FORWARD to your gmail account, email that comes to
your old account. If I recall correctly, the forwards were not instant
but reasonably prompt. Cheers, Dolly in Maryland (cold; had sleet this
afternoon)



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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!

[Elizabeth Richardson]

Sorry, Robin, I did not know that people would actually WEAR computer 
equipment, and you did add to my knowledge in that department. Made me shake 
my head wondering what this world is coming to, and so I did find some humor 
in your post. I cannot see how a flash drive makes using a computer 
"easier", though, and there have posts here regarding problems with them, 
which only confirms my suspicions. (I live in a town of 10,000, 700 air 
miles from anywhere over 50,000 population, and driving 20 miles in either 
direction from my house puts you smack dab in front of an "end of the road" 
sign, so remote is the way I describe my location.)


My post regarding the subject - Error 91 - had to do with the fact that I 
get this error and do not use a flash drive. The back up location has 
nothing to do with this error. However, somewhere in the thread of this 
problem, someone identified that unticking backing up the multimedia files 
seemed to be at the core of the problem. Since I don't have multimedia files 
attached to Legacy, I don't attempt to back them up and that might be the 
common thread here. I unticked that step because it seemed to me that asking 
the computer to look for non-existent files/folders was only asking for 
trouble. Maybe not.


I hope Millenia takes note.

Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson

- Original Message - 
From: "RobinH" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!


Rather a shame, Elizabeth, that you led me to explain a flash drive when 
you knew all the time.


And I don't really NEED a moral lesson on the difference between "Need" 
and "Want", thanks. If one chooses to use a computer it's sensible to 
spend a small amount of money to make its use easier. I am hardly keeping 
up with the Joneses as I live in a remote rural village, my car is 10 
years old and my TV older still.


Thanks Dolly for your comment!

Robin Hoare






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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!

[Gary]

I'd like to add, if you are going to flash memory for backup, use something 
in addition too. I backup to a hard drive on my network and also use online 
storage. Flash memory one limitation is it's life span, it has limited 
erase-write cycles. They can sometimes die quickly.



- Original Message - 
From: "RobinH" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!



Elizabeth (and others who don't know what a flash drive is...)

My wife, who would not claim to be a techno-freak, has just handed her 
poems to me. She typed them on a laptop and then transferred them to me on 
a flash drive so I could put them in my desk top computer for printing 
out.


You may have seen them without knowing: they are maybe 2 cm wide and 5 cm 
long and fit into a USB port.  They don't cost much, come in various 
attractive colours and some are even ornamental and can be worn round your 
neck as a pendant. They contain maybe 2,4,8 or even more GIGABYTES of 
files.


You DO need one!

Best wishes from New Zealand

Robin Hoare


Elizabeth Richardson wrote:
That response is regarding backing up to a flash drive. I do not have a 
flash drive, and, since I don't know what one is, and am not likely to 
ever need/want one.





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[LegacyUG] Source options on chronology report

[Jennifer Trahan]

Can someone from Legacy please tell me why they keep taking away options every 
time an update is completed? First, we heard about not being able to combine 
basic sources into sourcewriter sources (or something to that affect). Now it 
appears that on the sources tab on the options for the chronology report, they 
have taken away just about every option there was except to whether or not to 
print sources and whether or not to print pictures with sources. There used to 
be an option to print sources on a separate page or right after the text ended 
in the chronology report. I HATE wasting paper by printing sources on a brand 
new sheet. That's what is happening without the option to choose. PLEASE BRING 
THIS OPTION BACK. I'm scared that this has happened to other reports as well. I 
haven't checked yet. My family group sheets seem to be okay. I know I am not 
crazy b/c I checked the help menu, and sure enough, it mentions this option on 
the sources tab of where
 to start printing sources for the chronology report. Was removing this an 
accident? Why would you remove this? It seems like every time Legacy takes two 
steps forward with version 7, it takes one step back. I am going crazy. I guess 
I'll just waste paper for now. By the way, can someone check this for me and 
make sure it's not just a problem with my file?

Jennifer (one peeved customer, but I still love you Legacy)



  



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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!

[RobinH]

Rather a shame, Elizabeth, that you led me to explain a flash drive when 
you knew all the time.


And I don't really NEED a moral lesson on the difference between "Need" 
and "Want", thanks. If one chooses to use a computer it's sensible to 
spend a small amount of money to make its use easier. I am hardly 
keeping up with the Joneses as I live in a remote rural village, my car 
is 10 years old and my TV older still.


Thanks Dolly for your comment!

Robin Hoare




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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!

[Elizabeth Richardson]

Robin, actually, I did know what a flash drive is, and, believe me, I do not 
want or need a flash drive. I have one computer and will not be transferring 
stuff, although I did transfer stuff via disks from my old computer to this 
one. I do have a 500gb external hard drive for additional backups. I don't 
wear jewelry, so why would I want to WEAR a flash drive. Can't think of 
anything so frivolous is the only nice way to say what I think about that. 
And let me add that my husband think you don't NEED a computer. Not everyone 
has a you need the latest and greatest keep up with the Jones lifestyle. 
Need and want really are different.


Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson


- Original Message - 
From: "RobinH" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 2:33 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!



Elizabeth (and others who don't know what a flash drive is...)

My wife, who would not claim to be a techno-freak, has just handed her 
poems to me. She typed them on a laptop and then transferred them to me on 
a flash drive so I could put them in my desk top computer for printing 
out.


You may have seen them without knowing: they are maybe 2 cm wide and 5 cm 
long and fit into a USB port.  They don't cost much, come in various 
attractive colours and some are even ornamental and can be worn round your 
neck as a pendant. They contain maybe 2,4,8 or even more GIGABYTES of 
files.


You DO need one!

Best wishes from New Zealand

Robin Hoare


Elizabeth Richardson wrote:
That response is regarding backing up to a flash drive. I do not have a 
flash drive, and, since I don't know what one is, and am not likely to 
ever need/want one.







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[LegacyUG] Flash drive (humor)

[Dee Ziegler]

About flash drives: Yes, very useful, tough little gizmos. (And cheap,
in $15 range.) Even a small one carries my entire genealogy files with
room to spare, and plugs into any computer. For big photo and music
files, you might need a larger flash drive.

When I wore my new flash drive to dinner a few years ago, my young
grandson was impressed, but my son-in-law told me the people at work
call them geek pendants. ;-)

Cheers, Dolly in Baltimore



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Re: [LegacyUG] All the POSTS! how to organize? Delete?

[Dee Ziegler]

Like Wendy, I recommend gmail. Another useful thing about gmail -- you
can set it up to FORWARD to your gmail account, email that comes to
your old account. If I recall correctly, the forwards were not instant
but reasonably prompt. Cheers, Dolly in Maryland (cold; had sleet this
afternoon)



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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a Birth Announcement

[Alan Jones]

Gene Young wrote:

Alan Jones wrote:

Sourcing a Birth Announcement

I was wondering how one would source a Birth Announcement card one 
gets in the mail from the parents announcing a child's birth? They 
usually 

I create a source with:

Source List Name - "Birth Announcement - [person's name here]"
Type - "Written Announcement"
Author - The person who wrote/sent it.
Title - "Birth Announcement of [person's name here]".
Publication Facts - The date it was mailed/received (whichever you 
prefer)

Text of source - The contents or the announcement transcribed completely.
Source detail - Use the Source title.

Works for me and gives all the information in a readable, coherent and 
understandable manner.


I really like your idea.  It seems like they would already have that as 
a type... My wife was going though some stuff and showed me all the 
birth and marriage announcements she had collected... some current as a 
month ago some dating back several years.  I figure they are as good a 
source as anything else and even started scanning them in to have on hand.


thanks






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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!

[RobinH]

Elizabeth (and others who don't know what a flash drive is...)

My wife, who would not claim to be a techno-freak, has just handed her 
poems to me. She typed them on a laptop and then transferred them to me 
on a flash drive so I could put them in my desk top computer for 
printing out.


You may have seen them without knowing: they are maybe 2 cm wide and 5 
cm long and fit into a USB port.  They don't cost much, come in various 
attractive colours and some are even ornamental and can be worn round 
your neck as a pendant. They contain maybe 2,4,8 or even more GIGABYTES 
of files.


You DO need one!

Best wishes from New Zealand

Robin Hoare


Elizabeth Richardson wrote:
That response is regarding backing up to a flash drive. I do not have 
a flash drive, and, since I don't know what one is, and am not likely 
to ever need/want one.





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Re: [LegacyUG] Page Numbers in Family Pedigree Report

[Joyce Herzog]

 Yes, Click Print, then look on the little screen that pops up. It
says: All, Current Page,
Pages, Tick on pages and enter your selection: 1-4

jh

On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 5:07 PM,   wrote:
> Is it possible to tell the Printer someplace,  that I only want pages 1, 2,
> 3?
>
> **New year...new news.  Be the first to know what is making
> headlines. (http://news.aol.com?ncid=emlcntusnews0002)
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Page Numbers in Family Pedigree Report

[Jenny M Benson]

 wrote
Just now, I got my FIRST Family Pedigree Report  to print (38) pages, 
BUT, it printed in reverse (GOOD) BUT the Printer ran out of paper.  I 
still need Pages 1, 2, 3.  How should I go about this???


Preview the report, then select Range..., tick the radio button for 
Pages and type "1-3" in the box.  (Don't type the quotation marks.)

--
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RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!

[ronald ferguson]

Ann,
 
According to Legacy there should not be a need to change the jet engine in 
Vista as it is a later version (and may be different) than the jet engine which 
they recommend.
 
Did your husband backup to your hard drive or Flash? I'm moving towards 
thinking that it maybe backing up to Flash which is causing the difficulty, 
although I note the post from Jack where he says he has an on-going problem 
like yours with vista. I back up to my HD and then copy to Flash btw. and I do 
not back up the multimedia files (far too many!).
 
I do not have Legacy on my Vista machine, I'm afraid.



Ron Ferguson

_

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http://www.fergys.co.uk
View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
_









> From: aparsons2...@msn.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!
> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 15:17:56 -0700
>
> Ron,
>
> I did the export, still received error 91, I would give my eyeteeth if I
> still had them, to know what causes error 91 then I would never ever do what
> causes it again.
>
> I asked my dear patient 80 year old husband if he would uninstall &
> reinstall for me which he did. He said he noticed when he tried to back up
> he was asked if he wanted the multimedia in the same folder. He selected
> yes. He tried several backups on both machines and they seemed to do ok. He
> thinks that could be what causes error 91 not answering yes to multimedia in
> same folder. I don't have any multimedia hence never selected yes.
>
> Re the jet engine, I re-read #5. It gives Windows 95, 98 & NT to use
> Jet40WP8_9xNT.exe. Windows Millennium use Jet40SP8_WMe.exe, for Windows 2000
> use Windows2000-KB829558-x86-ENU.exe, for XP use WindowsXP-KB829558-x86-ENU
> there isn't a paragraph for Vista. My computer is supposed to be set up to
> automatically received Windows updates. The operative word is supposed I
> don't know if it does or doesn't. I will see if I can find a jet engine for
> Vista.
>
> Ron, you are one in a million!!! Thank you for helping me.
>
> Ann
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "ronald ferguson" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 2:23 PM
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91
>
>
>
> Ann,
>
> You say:
>> As I understand the error 91 instructions it doesn't seem to mention
>> Vista.
>> I have not tried uninstalling and reinstalling or the export file per
>> instruction #3.
>>
>
> Vista is not mentioned as various operating systems only apply to the jet
> engine. The two suggestions above apply to all o/s, so you really should try
> them, and I would do #3 first.
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
> _
>
> Now completely revised
> http://www.fergys.co.uk
> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
> _
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>> From: aparsons2...@msn.com
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91
>> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 13:19:56 -0700
>>
>> Ron,
>>
>> Yes I have always backed up to a flash drive. I will try backing up to the
>> hard drive. I bought this Dell this past August and didn't use the Acer
>> anymore until I started having this error 91. Then I would take the flash
>> drive and restore on the Acer to see if it was a good back up. As far as I
>> can tell it looks ok on the Acer. I believe that I tried to back up on the
>> same flash drive from the Acer and did not get error 91. I am not sure
>> about
>> that. I am getting very confused about what I have tried.
>>
>> As I understand the error 91 instructions it doesn't seem to mention
>> Vista.
>> I have not tried uninstalling and reinstalling or the export file per
>> instruction #3.
>>
>> I found the Acer is a 32 bit machine. Some of the flash drives have just
>> one
>> file, some have about ten. All are Legacy backups that I have done
>> yesterday
>> and today.
>>
>> I will try the uninstall - reinstall or the export now.
>>
>> Thank you for your patience and suggestions, I am quite upset about this
>> and
>> it is good to know someone is trying to help me. I have used Legacy since
>> v.
>> 2. On a lighter note even before Sherry was working for Millennia. We had
>> corresponded on the users group. I guess here is where I put Grin. I am
>> actually wringing my hands over this as this is years of work that I am
>> now
>> too old to do over.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Ann
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "ronald ferguson"
>> To:
>> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 12:09 PM
>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG

Re: [LegacyUG] INDEX 2 columns and printing

[JCTripp]

Momalot66,
Glad to hear you resolved the Index 1 2 and 3 column situation. This option 
for number of columns can be used for both the Name Index and the Location 
Index when you choose to add an Index to a report.

If adding paper to your printer didn't force those 3 pages to print, try 
this:

To get just a few pages printed for any report, in your case, pages 1,2 and 
3, I would go right back to that report and print the first 3 pages.
If you haven't messed around with selecting other reports, you can get 
right to your last report by looking at the very top toolbar that has words 
only and
select (click on) REPORTS
from the drop down list, select (click on) GO TO LAST REPORT
select (click on) PREVIEW
on the right side under the word print, select (click on) RANGE
in this Range screen on the left side you can
select (click on) PAGES
in the white rectangular window next to PAGES
enter by typing1-3in that window
That sends a message to your printer to print pages one through three.
Many "old" HP OfficeJet printers are still in use today. that's a keeper.
Continued good weather to you, Jane Tripp

- Original Message - 
From: momalo...@aol.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] INDEX 2 columns and printing


How do I get two columns?  I've clicked in  the button below that says 
"Index" but it doesn't make two columns.  Oh  WAIT . . . the index is less 
than a page long anyway!!!   DAH!!!   I'm just learning.  Couldn't sleep 
last night as I just made this BOOK  /Report breakthrough!!!   Legacy is 
great, but a lot to learn when  you're 67!!!

Now the problem is how to get pages 1, 2, 3 to print for my first Family 
Group Record, as the printer ran out of paper . . . I've put in new paper, 
but
could it also be the HP7200 OfficeJet "old" printer?

momalot66  in warm and  clear Murrieta, Southern California.  Saturday, 
about 1:40 PM!!!




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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!

[Elizabeth Richardson]

That response is regarding backing up to a flash drive. I do not have a 
flash drive, and, since I don't know what one is, and am not likely to ever 
need/want one. I continue to get an Error 91 if I try backing up 
mid-session. An ongoing problem that I cannot for the life of me figure out 
why Legacy is unable to duplicate. But, as in an earlier response, I have 
stopped being annoyed by it, as there are enough other things in life worth 
being annoyed over. It does make a back up, though I have to leave the 
program and reopen to continue working. (I have XP, high speed internet 
connection, 7.0.0.85) 85? Just dowloaded 86, we'll see . . .


Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson

- Original Message - 
From: "BOB CUNNINGHAM" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!


Ann
In the Archives their is quite q few posts on Error 91.
Below is a mail I received from Ken McGinnes last June on the subject. To 
date I have never seen a answer from support saying that they have worked 
out the cause or come up with a fix.


Re: Version 7 and Error 91Tuesday, 24 June, 2008 8:42 PM
From: "Ken McGinnis" Add sender to 
Contacts To: "BOB CUNNINGHAM" 



It's almost impossible to fix a problem that we cannot reproduce.   If I 
could

figure out what is going on then I'd be able to get it fixed.

For now, If a normal backup to your hard drive works do that and then just 
copy

the .zip file to you flash drive.

Thanks
Ken McGinnis
Millennia Corporation
kenmcgin...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
We are changing the world of genealogy!
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Regards
Bob Cunningham






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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 13:19:56 -0700, "Ann Parsons" 
wrote:

>Yes I have always backed up to a flash drive.

Are you backing up to the root directory on the flash drive? If so, how
many files are in the root directory?
 
-- 

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RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91

[Jack Earnshaw]

Ann

You aren't alone. I've had this problem for a couple of years i.e it started
with V6. The suggestions on the Legacy web site aren't at all helpful for
Vista users since it makes no mention of Vista. I backup to a hard drive and
get this problem if I don't start the backup immediately after starting the
program.

After exhausting the options offered by the web site you are left with
"export to a new file". That worked for me for a few days, then the problem
returned. I was really unhappy about the solution as I wasn't 100% convinced
that ALL of my data would transfer. I don't think I've lost anything and
have kept all my backups, but I still get the error 91 problem quite
regularly

Jack

-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Ann Parsons
Sent: 10 January 2009 20:20
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91

Ron,

Yes I have always backed up to a flash drive. I will try backing up to the 
hard drive. I bought this Dell this past August and didn't use the Acer 
anymore until I started having this error 91. Then I would take the flash 
drive and restore on the Acer to see if it was a good back up. As far as I 
can tell it looks ok on the Acer. I believe that I tried to back up on the 
same flash drive from the Acer and did not get error 91. I am not sure about

that. I am getting very confused about what I have tried.

As I understand the error 91 instructions it doesn't seem to mention Vista. 
I have not tried uninstalling and reinstalling or the export file per 
instruction #3.

I found the Acer is a 32 bit machine. Some of the flash drives have just one

file, some have about ten. All are Legacy backups that I have done yesterday

and today.

I will try the uninstall - reinstall or the export now.

Thank you for your patience and suggestions, I am quite upset about this and

it is good to know someone is trying to help me. I have used Legacy since v.

2. On a lighter note even before Sherry was working for Millennia. We had 
corresponded on the users group. I guess here is where I put Grin. I am 
actually wringing my hands over this as this is years of work that I am now 
too old to do over.

Best regards,
Ann



- Original Message - 
From: "ronald ferguson" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 12:09 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91



Ann,

Are you always backing up to a flash drive? What happens if you back up 
normally ie. to the hard drive on your PC? It is, btw, usually easier to 
concentrate on just one computer as having two can just make things even 
more confusing!

Since you are on Vista it seems ulikely that the problem is due to the jet 
engine. Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling Legacy? The fact that 
you have the problem on 2 PCs doesn't imspire confidence that this will work

though.

I'm afraid that I do not have a 64bit machine to test on. Just had a 
thought - how many files have you on the flash drive?

Ron Ferguson

_

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View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
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http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
_









> From: aparsons2...@msn.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91
> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:19:58 -0700
>
>
> I turned off the computer and turned it back on. I then did back up, got
> error 91 which always puts me out of the program. I went back in did check
> repair, again put me out of program, went back in, did back up, error 91,
> again put me out of the program, went back in did check repair, did back 
> up,
> error 91. I did this a total of 4 times.
> I looked at the backup #1 is 7749 KB, #2 is 7737 KB, #3 is 7737, #4 is 
> 7787.
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Wynthner"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 10:32 AM
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91
>
>
>>
>> It really ought to be a cardinal rule for all computer users that any PC
>> should have a cold boot after any update. You'd be amazed at the little
>> problems it prevents.
>>
>> --- On Sat, 1/10/09, ronald ferguson wrote:
>>
>>> From: ronald ferguson
>>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91
>>> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>>> Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 2:35 PM
>>> Ann,
>>>
>>> Sometimes posts on LUG can be confusing. There is not a
>>> problem with printing with version 7.0.0.86. However, with
>>> some set-ups it would seem that after updating, Legacy does
>>> not automatically recognise the printer. If so restart your
>>> PC and reopen Legacy.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ron Ferguson
>>>
>>> _
>>>
>>> Now completely revised
>>> http://www.fergys.co.uk
>>> View the Grimshaw Family Tr

Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 15:17:56 -0700, "Ann Parsons" 
wrote:

>I did the export, still received error 91

Did you export to a Legacy database? Or did you export to a GEDCOM and
then import to a new Legacy database? Try the latter if you haven't
already. But I would recommend taking a look at the Jet Engine first.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/239114
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!

[BOB CUNNINGHAM]

Ann
In the Archives their is quite q few posts on Error 91. 
Below is a mail I received from Ken McGinnes last June on the subject. To date 
I have never seen a answer from support saying that they have worked out the 
cause or come up with a fix.

Re: Version 7 and Error 91Tuesday, 24 June, 2008 8:42 PM
From: "Ken McGinnis" Add sender to Contacts 
To: "BOB CUNNINGHAM" 


It's almost impossible to fix a problem that we cannot reproduce.   If I could 
figure out what is going on then I'd be able to get it fixed.

For now, If a normal backup to your hard drive works do that and then just copy 
the .zip file to you flash drive.

Thanks
Ken McGinnis
Millennia Corporation
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We are changing the world of genealogy!
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Regards
Bob Cunningham




--- On Sat, 10/1/09, Ann Parsons  wrote:

> From: Ann Parsons 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Saturday, 10 January, 2009, 10:17 PM
> Ron,
> 
> I did the export, still received error 91, I would give my
> eyeteeth if I 
> still had them, to know what causes error 91 then I would
> never ever do what 
> causes it again.
> 
> I asked my dear patient 80 year old husband if he would
> uninstall & 
> reinstall for me which he did. He said he noticed when he
> tried to back up 
> he was asked if he wanted the multimedia in the same
> folder. He selected 
> yes. He tried several backups on both machines and they
> seemed to do ok. He 
> thinks that could be what causes error 91 not answering yes
> to multimedia in 
> same folder. I don't have any multimedia hence never
> selected yes.
> 
> Re the jet engine, I re-read #5. It gives Windows 95, 98
> & NT to use 
> Jet40WP8_9xNT.exe. Windows Millennium use Jet40SP8_WMe.exe,
> for Windows 2000 
> use Windows2000-KB829558-x86-ENU.exe, for XP use
> WindowsXP-KB829558-x86-ENU 
> there isn't a paragraph for Vista. My computer is
> supposed to be set up to 
> automatically received Windows updates. The operative word
> is supposed I 
> don't know if it does or doesn't. I will see if I
> can find a jet engine for 
> Vista.
> 
> Ron, you are one in a million!!! Thank you for helping me.
> 
> Ann
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "ronald ferguson" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 2:23 PM
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91
> 
> 
> 
> Ann,
> 
> You say:
> > As I understand the error 91 instructions it
> doesn't seem to mention 
> > Vista.
> > I have not tried uninstalling and reinstalling or the
> export file per
> > instruction #3.
> >
> 
> Vista is not mentioned as various operating systems only
> apply to the jet 
> engine. The two suggestions above apply to all o/s, so you
> really should try 
> them, and I would do #3 first.
> 
> Ron Ferguson
> 
> _
> 
> Now completely revised
> http://www.fergys.co.uk
> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
> _
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > From: aparsons2...@msn.com
> > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91
> > Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 13:19:56 -0700
> >
> > Ron,
> >
> > Yes I have always backed up to a flash drive. I will
> try backing up to the
> > hard drive. I bought this Dell this past August and
> didn't use the Acer
> > anymore until I started having this error 91. Then I
> would take the flash
> > drive and restore on the Acer to see if it was a good
> back up. As far as I
> > can tell it looks ok on the Acer. I believe that I
> tried to back up on the
> > same flash drive from the Acer and did not get error
> 91. I am not sure 
> > about
> > that. I am getting very confused about what I have
> tried.
> >
> > As I understand the error 91 instructions it
> doesn't seem to mention 
> > Vista.
> > I have not tried uninstalling and reinstalling or the
> export file per
> > instruction #3.
> >
> > I found the Acer is a 32 bit machine. Some of the
> flash drives have just 
> > one
> > file, some have about ten. All are Legacy backups that
> I have done 
> > yesterday
> > and today.
> >
> > I will try the uninstall - reinstall or the export
> now.
> >
> > Thank you for your patience and suggestions, I am
> quite upset about this 
> > and
> > it is good to know someone is trying to help me. I
> have used Legacy since 
> > v.
> > 2. On a lighter note even before Sherry was working
> for Millennia. We had
> > corresponded on the users group. I guess here is where
> I put Grin. I am
> > actually wringing my hands over this as this is years
> of work that I am 
> > now
> > too old to do over.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Ann
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "ronald ferguson"
> > To:
> > Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 12:09 PM

Re: [LegacyUG] All the POSTS! how to organize? Delete?

[Wendy Howard]

> Another alternative
> If anyone wants a GMAIL account - I can send an invitation to you!..

It is no longer necessary to be invited to Gmail, as it once was.  If 
you want an account with them, just go to http://mail.google.com/ and 
sign up.


I can't recommend this service highly enough.  Almost everything that 
I've heard people gripe about with other services, Gmail handles with ease.


- good spam identification and management,
- delivers all mail without filtering out what "they" think is spam - 
I'd rather make that determination myself, thanks, and it's easy to spot 
on the screen,
- loads of space - I have over 54,000 emails sitting at my account, 
since I only delete spam, and am using a mere 19% of the space available 
to me,

- loads of features to customise the web interface to your own liking,
- excellent search facilities - which makes it a breeze to locate that 
email from five years ago from Whosit who said something about widgets...

- and so on.

And it's free!  Give it a try - it won't hurt, and you'll be pleasantly 
surprised, I'm sure.  :-)


Kind Regards,
Wendy Howard
--
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Rawene!)
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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 Ta Dah!

[Ann Parsons]

Ron,

I did the export, still received error 91, I would give my eyeteeth if I 
still had them, to know what causes error 91 then I would never ever do what 
causes it again.

I asked my dear patient 80 year old husband if he would uninstall & 
reinstall for me which he did. He said he noticed when he tried to back up 
he was asked if he wanted the multimedia in the same folder. He selected 
yes. He tried several backups on both machines and they seemed to do ok. He 
thinks that could be what causes error 91 not answering yes to multimedia in 
same folder. I don't have any multimedia hence never selected yes.

Re the jet engine, I re-read #5. It gives Windows 95, 98 & NT to use 
Jet40WP8_9xNT.exe. Windows Millennium use Jet40SP8_WMe.exe, for Windows 2000 
use Windows2000-KB829558-x86-ENU.exe, for XP use WindowsXP-KB829558-x86-ENU 
there isn't a paragraph for Vista. My computer is supposed to be set up to 
automatically received Windows updates. The operative word is supposed I 
don't know if it does or doesn't. I will see if I can find a jet engine for 
Vista.

Ron, you are one in a million!!! Thank you for helping me.

Ann

- Original Message - 
From: "ronald ferguson" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 2:23 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91



Ann,

You say:
> As I understand the error 91 instructions it doesn't seem to mention 
> Vista.
> I have not tried uninstalling and reinstalling or the export file per
> instruction #3.
>

Vista is not mentioned as various operating systems only apply to the jet 
engine. The two suggestions above apply to all o/s, so you really should try 
them, and I would do #3 first.

Ron Ferguson

_

Now completely revised
http://www.fergys.co.uk
View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
_









> From: aparsons2...@msn.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91
> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 13:19:56 -0700
>
> Ron,
>
> Yes I have always backed up to a flash drive. I will try backing up to the
> hard drive. I bought this Dell this past August and didn't use the Acer
> anymore until I started having this error 91. Then I would take the flash
> drive and restore on the Acer to see if it was a good back up. As far as I
> can tell it looks ok on the Acer. I believe that I tried to back up on the
> same flash drive from the Acer and did not get error 91. I am not sure 
> about
> that. I am getting very confused about what I have tried.
>
> As I understand the error 91 instructions it doesn't seem to mention 
> Vista.
> I have not tried uninstalling and reinstalling or the export file per
> instruction #3.
>
> I found the Acer is a 32 bit machine. Some of the flash drives have just 
> one
> file, some have about ten. All are Legacy backups that I have done 
> yesterday
> and today.
>
> I will try the uninstall - reinstall or the export now.
>
> Thank you for your patience and suggestions, I am quite upset about this 
> and
> it is good to know someone is trying to help me. I have used Legacy since 
> v.
> 2. On a lighter note even before Sherry was working for Millennia. We had
> corresponded on the users group. I guess here is where I put Grin. I am
> actually wringing my hands over this as this is years of work that I am 
> now
> too old to do over.
>
> Best regards,
> Ann
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "ronald ferguson"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 12:09 PM
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91
>
>
>
> Ann,
>
> Are you always backing up to a flash drive? What happens if you back up
> normally ie. to the hard drive on your PC? It is, btw, usually easier to
> concentrate on just one computer as having two can just make things even
> more confusing!
>
> Since you are on Vista it seems ulikely that the problem is due to the jet
> engine. Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling Legacy? The fact that
> you have the problem on 2 PCs doesn't imspire confidence that this will 
> work
> though.
>
> I'm afraid that I do not have a 64bit machine to test on. Just had a
> thought - how many files have you on the flash drive?
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
> _
>
> Now completely revised
> http://www.fergys.co.uk
> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
> _
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>> From: aparsons2...@msn.com
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91
>> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:19:58 -0700
>>
>>
>> I turned off the computer and turned it back on. 

Re: [LegacyUG] Page Numbers in Family Pedigree Report

[Momalot66]

Is it possible to tell the Printer someplace,  that I only want pages 1, 2, 
3?  

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Re: [LegacyUG] Page Numbers in Family Pedigree Report

[Gene Young]

momalo...@aol.com wrote:
Just now, I got my FIRST Family Pedigree Report  to print (38) pages, BUT, it 
printed in reverse (GOOD) BUT the Printer ran out  of paper.  I still need 
Pages 1, 2, 3.  How should I go about this???  



By following the directions that came with your printer describing how to resume a print job when 
the printer runs out of paper.  Not knowing what your printer is, no one on the list can really 
answer for you.


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Re: [LegacyUG] INDEX 2 columns and printing

[Joyce Herzog]

Both of the HP printers I've had allow you to select which pages you
want to print. After you click print, the little gray window pops up.
The default is "All". if you go down the list the next is "Current
Page", then  "Pages". Tick pages, then add your choice, ie 1-3.

Hope that helps.

Joyce

P.S. I hope this is in plain text. I'm sure someone will let me know
if it isn't.


On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 4:41 PM,   wrote:
> How do I get two columns?  I've clicked in  the button below that says
> "Index" but it doesn't make two columns.  Oh  WAIT . . . the index is less 
> than a
> page long anyway!!!   DAH!!!   I'm just learning.  Couldn't sleep last night 
> as
> I just made this BOOK  /Report breakthrough!!!   Legacy is great, but a lot to
> learn when  you're 67!!!
>
> Now the problem is how to get pages 1, 2, 3 to print for my first Family
> Group Record, as the printer ran out of paper . . . I've put in new paper, but
> could it also be the HP7200 OfficeJet "old" printer?
>
> momalot66  in warm and  clear Murrieta, Southern California.  Saturday, about
> 1:40 PM!!!
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> headlines. (http://news.aol.com?ncid=emlcntusnews0002)
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] INDEX 2 columns and printing

[Elizabeth Richardson]

You can go to Preview, and on the right side is a Print Button where you 
have the option to Print "All Pages" "Range" or "This Page"


Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson

- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] INDEX 2 columns and printing



How do I get two columns?  I've clicked in  the button below that says
"Index" but it doesn't make two columns.  Oh  WAIT . . . the index is less 
than a
page long anyway!!!   DAH!!!   I'm just learning.  Couldn't sleep last 
night as
I just made this BOOK  /Report breakthrough!!!   Legacy is great, but a 
lot to

learn when  you're 67!!!

Now the problem is how to get pages 1, 2, 3 to print for my first Family
Group Record, as the printer ran out of paper . . . I've put in new paper, 
but

could it also be the HP7200 OfficeJet "old" printer?






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[LegacyUG] IGI Stuff

[Bill Daniels]

I just attended a meeting in California  and the topic was Ancestral 
quest 12.1.   The developer talked about  his software being able to 
compare  Family search and identify other similar lines of genealogy.  I 
thought that was a feature was in Legacy 6.   yet I can't find it now.   
Can someone direct me to it!  thanks


Bill  Daniels


Second question:
I have not updated  to Legacy 7.  Are the major problems solved  to do 
so?  Is it every thing Geoff said it is! 








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Re: [LegacyUG] INDEX 2 columns and printing

[Momalot66]

How do I get two columns?  I've clicked in  the button below that says 
"Index" but it doesn't make two columns.  Oh  WAIT . . . the index is less than 
a 
page long anyway!!!   DAH!!!   I'm just learning.  Couldn't sleep last night as 
I just made this BOOK  /Report breakthrough!!!   Legacy is great, but a lot to 
learn when  you're 67!!!  

Now the problem is how to get pages 1, 2, 3 to print for my first Family  
Group Record, as the printer ran out of paper . . . I've put in new paper, but  
could it also be the HP7200 OfficeJet "old" printer?
 
momalot66  in warm and  clear Murrieta, Southern California.  Saturday, about 
1:40 PM!!!
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RE: [LegacyUG] Subsequent Citations

[ronald ferguson]

Ward,
 
Have you checked since the last update was issued? By far the majority of 
problems have been resolved. I did notice that if a footnote was right at the 
bottom of the page then it could be lost, but as I cannot replicate it now I 
assumed this had been resolved. I was using the Descendant Report.



Ron Ferguson

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> From: wnkwal...@rogers.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Subsequent Citations
> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 15:37:18 -0500
>
> Brenda,
>
> This sounds exactly like the issue (actually 3-4 issues) that we discussed
> in the thread "Master Source Subsequent Citation Issue" in early December. I
> submitted some bug reports, although I have no idea whether they were
> received and given any priority.
>
> You are correct when you say "...the program is only looking at the master
> source to determine if a subsequent footnote is needed and not the source
> detail".
>
> In some reports, the subsequent citation format is not being used at all (so
> your problem won't occur, but your report will be bulkier). For example, the
> Descendant Book Report uses subsequent citations when footnotes are on each
> page and not when endnotes are used instead.
>
> Ward
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Brenda Barker
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 2:10 AM
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Subsequent Citations
>
>
> I have recently switched to using Legacy primarily because of the ease of
> using the SourceWriter. I realize that there have been bugs but was content
> to wait for the bugs to be worked out. With all of the recent upgrades I am
> not sure if the SourceWriter is now working as planned or if I need to
> adjust the way I have been entering the source information. For example I
> have been creating a master source which covers all issues of a particular
> newpaper (lumping). In the source detail I enter the title, date, etc. as
> prompted. If I run a report where say the first footnote using that
> newpaper is an obituary for Person A---it looks fine. If that same obituary
> is cited again it also looks fine. The problem is that if an obituary from
> the same newspaper is then cited for Person B the name of the newspaper is
> not included in that footnote or any later footnotes--the program thinks it
> is a subsequent footnote. It appears that the program is only looking at
> the master source to determine if a subsequent footnote is needed and not
> the source detail. When multiple newpapers are cited more than once within
> a report it is even more problematic as it is impossible to tell which
> newspaper is being cited.
>
> If I need to be patient I will continue to do so but I hate to enter a lot
> of information that I may need to change. Any input or insight would be
> appreciated.
> BB
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[LegacyUG] Page Numbers in Family Pedigree Report

[Momalot66]

Just now, I got my FIRST Family Pedigree Report  to print (38) pages, BUT, it 
printed in reverse (GOOD) BUT the Printer ran out  of paper.  I still need 
Pages 1, 2, 3.  How should I go about this???  

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RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91

[ronald ferguson]

Ann,
 
You say:
> As I understand the error 91 instructions it doesn't seem to mention Vista.
> I have not tried uninstalling and reinstalling or the export file per
> instruction #3.
>

Vista is not mentioned as various operating systems only apply to the jet 
engine. The two suggestions above apply to all o/s, so you really should try 
them, and I would do #3 first.

Ron Ferguson

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> From: aparsons2...@msn.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91
> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 13:19:56 -0700
>
> Ron,
>
> Yes I have always backed up to a flash drive. I will try backing up to the
> hard drive. I bought this Dell this past August and didn't use the Acer
> anymore until I started having this error 91. Then I would take the flash
> drive and restore on the Acer to see if it was a good back up. As far as I
> can tell it looks ok on the Acer. I believe that I tried to back up on the
> same flash drive from the Acer and did not get error 91. I am not sure about
> that. I am getting very confused about what I have tried.
>
> As I understand the error 91 instructions it doesn't seem to mention Vista.
> I have not tried uninstalling and reinstalling or the export file per
> instruction #3.
>
> I found the Acer is a 32 bit machine. Some of the flash drives have just one
> file, some have about ten. All are Legacy backups that I have done yesterday
> and today.
>
> I will try the uninstall - reinstall or the export now.
>
> Thank you for your patience and suggestions, I am quite upset about this and
> it is good to know someone is trying to help me. I have used Legacy since v.
> 2. On a lighter note even before Sherry was working for Millennia. We had
> corresponded on the users group. I guess here is where I put Grin. I am
> actually wringing my hands over this as this is years of work that I am now
> too old to do over.
>
> Best regards,
> Ann
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "ronald ferguson" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 12:09 PM
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91
>
>
>
> Ann,
>
> Are you always backing up to a flash drive? What happens if you back up
> normally ie. to the hard drive on your PC? It is, btw, usually easier to
> concentrate on just one computer as having two can just make things even
> more confusing!
>
> Since you are on Vista it seems ulikely that the problem is due to the jet
> engine. Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling Legacy? The fact that
> you have the problem on 2 PCs doesn't imspire confidence that this will work
> though.
>
> I'm afraid that I do not have a 64bit machine to test on. Just had a
> thought - how many files have you on the flash drive?
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
> _
>
> Now completely revised
> http://www.fergys.co.uk
> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
> _
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>> From: aparsons2...@msn.com
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91
>> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:19:58 -0700
>>
>>
>> I turned off the computer and turned it back on. I then did back up, got
>> error 91 which always puts me out of the program. I went back in did check
>> repair, again put me out of program, went back in, did back up, error 91,
>> again put me out of the program, went back in did check repair, did back
>> up,
>> error 91. I did this a total of 4 times.
>> I looked at the backup #1 is 7749 KB, #2 is 7737 KB, #3 is 7737, #4 is
>> 7787.
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Wynthner"
>> To:
>> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 10:32 AM
>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91
>>
>>
>>>
>>> It really ought to be a cardinal rule for all computer users that any PC
>>> should have a cold boot after any update. You'd be amazed at the little
>>> problems it prevents.
>>>
>>> --- On Sat, 1/10/09, ronald ferguson wrote:
>>>
 From: ronald ferguson
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91
 To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 2:35 PM
 Ann,

 Sometimes posts on LUG can be confusing. There is not a
 problem with printing with version 7.0.0.86. However, with
 some set-ups it would seem that after updating, Legacy does
 not automatically recognise the printer. If so restart your
 PC and reopen Legacy.



 Ron Ferguson

 __

RE: [LegacyUG] Source Writer Conversion Tool

[ronald ferguson]

Only the Legacy staff, Roger.



Ron Ferguson

_

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http://www.fergys.co.uk
View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
_









> From: ro...@thenavarres.com
> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Source Writer Conversion Tool
> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:57:02 -0600
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I’m new to this list, so please forgive me if this has
> been asked before. I’m really excited about the Source Writer in Legacy
> 7. I have thousands of sources created using older versions of Legacy and
> I want to get them converted to the new format. When Legacy 7 was
> announced a conversion tool was promised. Can anyone tell me if the tool
> is still in development, and if so when it might be released?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Roger Navarre
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] INDEX 2 columns

[Jenny M Benson]

 wrote

Is there a trick to this?  I have 7.0.0.86  and Windows XP.


Is there a trick to what?
--
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Re: [LegacyUG] Genealogical info from my sister-in-law's sister

[Jenny M Benson]

Arnold Sprague wrote
As noted in the subject line, I just received information from my 
sister-in-law's sister. I want to source it using the SourceWriter 
template. The best template I can find is Personal Knowledge. However, 
it asks for the "old fashioned"

Researcher Mailing Address
Researcher City
Researcher State
Researcher Postal Code

#1. All that I have on her is an e-mail address. Is there an 
alternative template that would show her e-mail address? Maybe her 
phone number?


If you only have an e-mail address and telephone number you won't be 
wanting to use a mailing address, etc so why not put the e-mail address 
and 'phone number instead.


#2. Further, I am confused by the Option at the bottom of the template 
where it shows "Exclude from Reports." I would like for her name to 
appear on any report, but not her address, e-mail, etc. At the same 
time on the template's Output Preview, it shows her name with [ADDRESS 
FOR PRIVATE USE]. Does this mean if I do *NOT* put a checkmark next to 
"Exclude from Reports," only her name will appear?


Yes, that's what Ouput Preview means - it's a preview of what will show 
when you create report.


If you check "Exclude from Reports" that is exactly what will happen - 
that Source will not appear on Reports at all.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Subsequent Citations

[Jenny M Benson]

Brenda Barker wrote
I noted that in your experiment you used the same date for both 
newspapers and that could be the difference.  I sounds like it may be 
necessary to create a separate master source for each edition of the 
newspaper rather than lump all editions together as a single master 
source. 


There's good news and bad news!

The good news is that is not necessary to create a new source for every 
newspaper.  The bad news is that there is a bug and I have replicated 
your experience.  I have submitted a Bug Report.


Further good news is that the Citation will print correctly if you use 
Endnotes rather than Footnotes.  Personally, I prefer always to use 
Endnotes so this bug is not a great problem to me.

--
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Re: [LegacyUG] Without a doubt

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 20:36:06 -0800, "Kirsten Bowman" 
wrote:

>The trouble is that some of our list members are on dial-up with no high speed 
>connection option.  Worse still, some have traffic limitations and they get 
>understandably aggravated when an HTML message eats up an inordinate chunk of 
>their monthly allotment.  So it's actually a case of justified complaining 
>rather than arbitrary etiquette rules or sniping.  It's a shame that HTML 
>can't be automatically stripped as it is with RootsWeb lists, but it's 
>something we have to live with.

In addition, HTML (more so the scripting it can contain) can do
malicious things to your PC. And some folks on the list filter HTML
messages to the trash bin or delete them entirely. So if you want the
max number of people to read your post, send in plain text.
 
-- 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Keeping Cool

[RobinH]

I'm sorry to hear about all you chilly folks in the "Land of the Freeze"
Think about us poor folks here in New Zealand (and in Australia) 
sweltering in the summer heat.


Robin Hoare, Rawene NZ

Elizabeth Richardson wrote:



who definitely has cold boots these days with a whopping 3 feet of 
snow on the ground!





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Re: [LegacyUG] Subsequent Citations

[Ward Walker]

Brenda,

This sounds exactly like the issue (actually 3-4 issues) that we discussed 
in the thread "Master Source Subsequent Citation Issue" in early December. I 
submitted some bug reports, although I have no idea whether they were 
received and given any priority.


You are correct when you say "...the program is only looking at the master 
source to determine if a subsequent footnote is needed and not the source 
detail".


In some reports, the subsequent citation format is not being used at all (so 
your problem won't occur, but your report will be bulkier). For example, the 
Descendant Book Report uses subsequent citations when footnotes are on each 
page and not when endnotes are used instead.


  Ward

- Original Message - 
From: Brenda Barker

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 2:10 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Subsequent Citations


I have recently switched to using Legacy primarily because of the ease of 
using the SourceWriter.  I realize that there have been bugs but was content 
to wait for the bugs to be worked out.  With all of the recent upgrades I am 
not sure if the SourceWriter is now working as planned or if I need to 
adjust the way I have been entering the source information.  For example I 
have been creating a master source which covers all issues of a particular 
newpaper (lumping).  In the source detail I enter the title, date, etc. as 
prompted.  If I run a report where say the first footnote using that 
newpaper is an obituary for Person A---it looks fine.  If that same obituary 
is cited again it also looks fine.  The problem is that if an obituary from 
the same newspaper is then cited for Person B the name of the newspaper is 
not included in that footnote or any later footnotes--the program thinks it 
is a subsequent footnote.  It appears that the program is only looking at 
the master source to determine if a subsequent footnote is needed and not 
the source detail.  When multiple newpapers are cited more than once within 
a report it is even more problematic as it is impossible to tell which 
newspaper is being cited.


If I need to be patient I will continue to do so but I hate to enter a lot 
of information that I may need to change.  Any input or insight would be 
appreciated.

BB


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[LegacyUG] INDEX 2 columns

[Momalot66]

Is there a trick to this?  I have 7.0.0.86  and Windows XP.  

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Re: [LegacyUG] Genealogical info from my sister-in-law's sister

[Dennis M . Kowallek]

On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:21:40 -0700, Arnold Sprague
 wrote:

>Does this mean if I do *NOT* put a 
>checkmark next to "Exclude from Reports," only her name will appear?

Just try it and see what happens. ;-)
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91

[Ann Parsons]

Ron,

Yes I have always backed up to a flash drive. I will try backing up to the 
hard drive. I bought this Dell this past August and didn't use the Acer 
anymore until I started having this error 91. Then I would take the flash 
drive and restore on the Acer to see if it was a good back up. As far as I 
can tell it looks ok on the Acer. I believe that I tried to back up on the 
same flash drive from the Acer and did not get error 91. I am not sure about 
that. I am getting very confused about what I have tried.

As I understand the error 91 instructions it doesn't seem to mention Vista. 
I have not tried uninstalling and reinstalling or the export file per 
instruction #3.

I found the Acer is a 32 bit machine. Some of the flash drives have just one 
file, some have about ten. All are Legacy backups that I have done yesterday 
and today.

I will try the uninstall - reinstall or the export now.

Thank you for your patience and suggestions, I am quite upset about this and 
it is good to know someone is trying to help me. I have used Legacy since v. 
2. On a lighter note even before Sherry was working for Millennia. We had 
corresponded on the users group. I guess here is where I put Grin. I am 
actually wringing my hands over this as this is years of work that I am now 
too old to do over.

Best regards,
Ann



- Original Message - 
From: "ronald ferguson" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 12:09 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91



Ann,

Are you always backing up to a flash drive? What happens if you back up 
normally ie. to the hard drive on your PC? It is, btw, usually easier to 
concentrate on just one computer as having two can just make things even 
more confusing!

Since you are on Vista it seems ulikely that the problem is due to the jet 
engine. Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling Legacy? The fact that 
you have the problem on 2 PCs doesn't imspire confidence that this will work 
though.

I'm afraid that I do not have a 64bit machine to test on. Just had a 
thought - how many files have you on the flash drive?

Ron Ferguson

_

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http://www.fergys.co.uk
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> From: aparsons2...@msn.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91
> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:19:58 -0700
>
>
> I turned off the computer and turned it back on. I then did back up, got
> error 91 which always puts me out of the program. I went back in did check
> repair, again put me out of program, went back in, did back up, error 91,
> again put me out of the program, went back in did check repair, did back 
> up,
> error 91. I did this a total of 4 times.
> I looked at the backup #1 is 7749 KB, #2 is 7737 KB, #3 is 7737, #4 is 
> 7787.
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Wynthner"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 10:32 AM
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91
>
>
>>
>> It really ought to be a cardinal rule for all computer users that any PC
>> should have a cold boot after any update. You'd be amazed at the little
>> problems it prevents.
>>
>> --- On Sat, 1/10/09, ronald ferguson wrote:
>>
>>> From: ronald ferguson
>>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91
>>> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>>> Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 2:35 PM
>>> Ann,
>>>
>>> Sometimes posts on LUG can be confusing. There is not a
>>> problem with printing with version 7.0.0.86. However, with
>>> some set-ups it would seem that after updating, Legacy does
>>> not automatically recognise the printer. If so restart your
>>> PC and reopen Legacy.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ron Ferguson
>>>
>>> _
>>>
>>> Now completely revised
>>> http://www.fergys.co.uk
>>> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
>>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
>>> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
>>> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
>>> _
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
 From: aparsons2...@msn.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91
 Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 07:08:29 -0700

 Thanks Ron for trying to help me. The reason I did not
>>> update to .86 is what
 I have read on LUG about printing problems. I will
>>> update pronto!!



 - Original Message -
 From: "ronald ferguson"
 To:
 Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 6:15 AM
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91



 Ann,

 Why do you say the #1 does not apply to you, when you
>>> are not running the
 latest version?

 I sug

Re: [LegacyUG] Without a doubt

[Elizabeth Richardson]

Amazing! I looked at FTM many years ago and found it to be almost the 
opposite of user-friendly. I used Reunion for Windows for many years before 
coming to Legacy about a year ago. Legacy has the same screen look as 
Reunion, so it was an easy switch for me, but both are so user-friendly that 
it's hard for me to understand why one wouldn't be able to just start 
entering people from Day 1 and go from there.


I don't use the Source Writer, and I agree that it might not be particularly 
user-friendly, although I think the designers thought it would be. The basic 
source system is straight-forward and provides all the functionality I will 
ever need. In either case, Legacy allows you to preview the source and easy 
edit capability, so if the first time doesn't give you just what you were 
looking for, fixing isn't much of a problem.


I did find Geoff's Training CDs to be very worthwhile because they gave me 
insight into possibilities. The one on tagging was especially useful as this 
feature is better than what I had used before (the Reunion version I was 
using had only 1 tag).


Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson

- Original Message - 
From: Red Sanders

To: Legacy Users Group
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 9:35 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Without a doubt


jaemtp,

Sorry I can't help you with specific problems - I'll leave this to the much 
more experienced folks in this forum.  However, I too am a recent 
"immigrant" from FTM, versions 10 and 16.  I too found the FTM programs 
more user friendly than Legacy.  In fact, we use FTM as part of our 
community classes for parents in our school district to encourage them to 
learn how to use computers - via an application rather than abstract drills.


Having said that, IMHO Legacy provides many more electronic cubby holes, 
thus providing for extensive means of documenting entries as compared to 
FTM.  I am working to learn Legacy via frequentl use, and the CDs.  Based on 
my experience, I would never move our parents straight into Legacy.  I know 
you are looking more for specific answers, rather than encouragement...so 
will just say, keep at it...I believe you'll be rewarded for doing so.


Red Sanders




Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 19:08:54 -0600
From: jae...@verizon.net
Subject: Re: Re: [LegacyUG] Without a doubt
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com



Hello, thank you for asking:

I have had a series of issues - below are just a few.
My first post had to do with the 'Ibid' feature. The online Help Index 
presented this as if it was available. The Customize menu had a check box to 
enable it. The Legacy Web page had a Comparsion Chart to other genealogy 
software in which it indicated that it (and Roots Magic) offered the Ibid 
feature when two others did not - using it as a selling point!  So, I wonder 
why this is not working. I spent a lot of extra time going over things 
trying to figure out what I am not doing right. I get on this forum and one 
person (Ron) tells me that it is no longer available.
Similar situation for the Source Template Conversion Tool. They got 
instructions how to use this thing. I could not find it and,again, I am 
taking extra time trying to learn this and figure out how to access and use 
it. I really could have used that because I imported a genealogy file and 
half of my citations went into Basic template. I wanted them all under the 
Source Writer.  But, I then find out that the Source Template Conversion 
Tool is still a product of someone's imagination yet - even though the 
directions are telling me how to use it. I had to work on rewriting the 
Sources/Citations individually in the Source Writer and deleting the older 
ones. Then I learn from this forum again that it was either discontinued or 
never started.


I wrote about Sibling Relationships - I have three children in a family file 
who were born to the same mother but two of them had a different father. 
Legacy is incorrectly labeling them in the Relationships reports as "step 
brothers" when they are actually half brothers. I reported this two weeks 
ago and it is still not corrected. I want to print a genealogy report for a 
friend of mine whose Family History I researched - and I cannot give him 
something that looks unprofessional as to misclassify his relationship to 
his half brother and say 'Oh...it was the software! '
Sources/Citations as footnotes at the end of the page: I figured this will 
be easier - everything is right on one page to read. Well, one of the facts 
in my Descendant book report referred to citation no. 18. But, there was no 
18 in the footnotes, it only went as high as 17.


As a side note, It seems like none of these programs are blended-family 
friendly - if you want to put the children with the step parent who raised 
them for 20 years. Adoptions are also another issue when you want to include 
the natural parents (when they are known) but want to put the child under 
the adop

Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 (Saturday Humor)

[Ann Parsons]

Thank you Elizabeth for sharing how Legacy backups do for you. I certainly 
need the moral support. Ann


- Original Message - 
From: "Elizabeth Richardson" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 (Saturday Humor)


> Ann, I continue to have problems with backups. I have no problem when I
> backup upon exit, but backing up mid-session when I have made a lot of
> changes continues to be a problem. I've learned to just shrug my shoulders
> and say that's the way the program (doesn't) work, but it is apparently
> causing no harm.
>
> Elizabeth
> researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson
>
> who definitely has cold boots these days with a whopping 3 feet of snow on
> the ground!
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Ann Parsons" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 9:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 (Saturday Humor)
>
>
> > Howland,
> > You have made my day!! I am about in tears with this error 91.
> > Ann
> >
> >
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 10:55 AM
> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 (Saturday Humor)
> >
> >
> >> In a message dated 1/10/2009 12:41:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> >> wynth...@yahoo.com writes:
> >>
> >> It really ought to be a cardinal rule for all computer users  that any 
> >> PC
> >> should have a cold boot after any update.  Being in  Ohio and having 
> >> 6+"
> >> of snow
> >> on the ground, I definitely have a cold boot after  shoveling.  It 
> >> fixed
> >> everything.
> >> Howland Davis
> >> **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2
> >> easy
> >> steps!
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Re: [LegacyUG] All the POSTS! how to organize? Delete?

[GeoSci]

Another alternative

If anyone wants a GMAIL account - I can send an invitation to you!
They give you 7282mb of on-line storage!  If you use the account for
LUG - it keep everything - all neatly organized for you (or you can
come up with your own labels).  The only strange thing I have found is
it does not show you your own posts! (If I send something to the group
- I never see it until someone answers it)  STRANGE but you can get
accustomed to it!

Keith

On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Arnold Sprague  wrote:
> I too am of the old school where I throw nothing at all away, never, ever.
> Then when I need to search on something, I merely hit Ctr-F and enter the
> word or phrase in the Find box.
> Or, if I am interested in all the helpful posts Sherry sends, I merely sort
> on her name.
> Of course, I use an e-mail program where all the posts, in and out, are
> stored on my hard drive.
> Of course, when one can buy a huge hard drive (1000GB) for $109, having
> plenty of room for old, old, old messages is no big deal.
>
> Arnold Sprague
>

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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 (Saturday Humor)

[Elizabeth Richardson]

Ann, I continue to have problems with backups. I have no problem when I 
backup upon exit, but backing up mid-session when I have made a lot of 
changes continues to be a problem. I've learned to just shrug my shoulders 
and say that's the way the program (doesn't) work, but it is apparently 
causing no harm.


Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson

who definitely has cold boots these days with a whopping 3 feet of snow on 
the ground!


- Original Message - 
From: "Ann Parsons" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 (Saturday Humor)



Howland,
You have made my day!! I am about in tears with this error 91.
Ann


- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 (Saturday Humor)



In a message dated 1/10/2009 12:41:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
wynth...@yahoo.com writes:

It really ought to be a cardinal rule for all computer users  that any PC
should have a cold boot after any update.  Being in  Ohio and having 6+" 
of snow

on the ground, I definitely have a cold boot after  shoveling.  It fixed
everything.
Howland Davis
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easy

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[LegacyUG] Genealogical info from my sister-in-law's sister

[Arnold Sprague]

As noted in the subject line, I just received information from my 
sister-in-law's sister. I want to source it using the SourceWriter 
template. The best template I can find is Personal Knowledge. 
However, it asks for the "old fashioned"

Researcher Mailing Address
Researcher City
Researcher State
Researcher Postal Code

#1. All that I have on her is an e-mail address. Is there an 
alternative template that would show her e-mail address? Maybe her 
phone number?


#2. Further, I am confused by the Option at the bottom of the 
template where it shows "Exclude from Reports." I would like for her 
name to appear on any report, but not her address, e-mail, etc. At 
the same time on the template's Output Preview, it shows her name 
with [ADDRESS FOR PRIVATE USE]. Does this mean if I do *NOT* put a 
checkmark next to "Exclude from Reports," only her name will appear?


Thank you,
Arnold




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RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91

[ronald ferguson]

Ann,
 
Are you always backing up to a flash drive? What happens if you back up 
normally ie. to the hard drive on your PC? It is, btw, usually easier to 
concentrate on just one computer as having two can just make things even more 
confusing!

Since you are on Vista it seems ulikely that the problem is due to the jet 
engine. Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling Legacy? The fact that you 
have the problem on 2 PCs doesn't imspire confidence that this will work though.
 
I'm afraid that I do not have a 64bit machine to test on. Just had a thought - 
how many files have you on the flash drive?

Ron Ferguson

_

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http://www.fergys.co.uk
View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
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http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
_









> From: aparsons2...@msn.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91
> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:19:58 -0700
>
>
> I turned off the computer and turned it back on. I then did back up, got
> error 91 which always puts me out of the program. I went back in did check
> repair, again put me out of program, went back in, did back up, error 91,
> again put me out of the program, went back in did check repair, did back up,
> error 91. I did this a total of 4 times.
> I looked at the backup #1 is 7749 KB, #2 is 7737 KB, #3 is 7737, #4 is 7787.
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Wynthner" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 10:32 AM
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91
>
>
>>
>> It really ought to be a cardinal rule for all computer users that any PC
>> should have a cold boot after any update. You'd be amazed at the little
>> problems it prevents.
>>
>> --- On Sat, 1/10/09, ronald ferguson wrote:
>>
>>> From: ronald ferguson 
>>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91
>>> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>>> Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 2:35 PM
>>> Ann,
>>>
>>> Sometimes posts on LUG can be confusing. There is not a
>>> problem with printing with version 7.0.0.86. However, with
>>> some set-ups it would seem that after updating, Legacy does
>>> not automatically recognise the printer. If so restart your
>>> PC and reopen Legacy.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ron Ferguson
>>>
>>> _
>>>
>>> Now completely revised
>>> http://www.fergys.co.uk
>>> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
>>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
>>> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
>>> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
>>> _
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
 From: aparsons2...@msn.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91
 Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 07:08:29 -0700

 Thanks Ron for trying to help me. The reason I did not
>>> update to .86 is what
 I have read on LUG about printing problems. I will
>>> update pronto!!



 - Original Message -
 From: "ronald ferguson"
 To:
 Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 6:15 AM
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91



 Ann,

 Why do you say the #1 does not apply to you, when you
>>> are not running the
 latest version?

 I suggest that you update to the current version,
>>> which you obviously know
 about, and then come back to us if the problem
>>> persists.



 Ron Ferguson


>>> _

 Now completely revised
 http://www.fergys.co.uk
 View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
 For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
 http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/

>>> _








 
> From: aparsons2...@msn.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Error 91
> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 05:45:37 -0700
>
> Does someone know what causes error 91. I get this
>>> when I back up my
> Legacy
> files. There doesn't seem to be a pattern to
>>> this. Sometimes I get it, yet
> the back up flash drive shows a good back up. I
>>> reopen Legacy and do
> backup
> and do not get an error message. It does not seem
>>> to be the flash drives
> as
> I have used eight different ones of various
>>> brands. I printed out the
> instructions for error 91 from the Legacy
>>> homepage.
>
> #1 doesn't seem to apply to me as I am already
>>> using Legacy 7.0.0.81 I
> have
> not went to update number .86
>
> #2 I have d

[LegacyUG] Source Writer Conversion Tool

[Roger Navarre]

I'm new to this list, so please forgive me if this has been asked before.
I'm really excited about the Source Writer in Legacy 7.  I have thousands of
sources created using older versions of Legacy and I want to get them
converted to the new format.  When Legacy 7 was announced a conversion tool
was promised.  Can anyone tell me if the tool is still in development, and
if so when it might be released?

 

Thanks,

Roger Navarre





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Re: [LegacyUG] Without a doubt

[MICHELLE CROSBY]

jaempt,

I have both FTM 2009 and Legacy.  Until I feel 100% comfortable with Legacy and 
waiting with bated breath for the source conversion,
I have decided to use both programs.  The downside, is that I have to enter in 
the data in both spots, the upside, by doing this,
I have learned a lot about Legacy and will eventually have everything in 
Legacy.  I don't mind working in both it beats shoveling snow.

Shelly
  - Original Message - 
  From: Red Sanders 
  To: Legacy Users Group 
  Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 12:35 PM
  Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Without a doubt


  jaemtp,
   
  Sorry I can't help you with specific problems - I'll leave this to the much 
more experienced folks in this forum.  However, I too am a recent "immigrant" 
from FTM, versions 10 and 16.  I too found the FTM programs  more user friendly 
than Legacy.  In fact, we use FTM as part of our community classes for parents 
in our school district to encourage them to learn how to use computers - via an 
application rather than abstract drills.
   
  Having said that, IMHO Legacy provides many more electronic cubby holes, thus 
providing for extensive means of documenting entries as compared to FTM.  I am 
working to learn Legacy via frequentl use, and the CDs.  Based on my 
experience, I would never move our parents straight into Legacy.  I know you 
are looking more for specific answers, rather than encouragement...so will just 
say, keep at it...I believe you'll be rewarded for doing so.
   
  Red Sanders


--

  Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 19:08:54 -0600
  From: jae...@verizon.net
  Subject: Re: Re: [LegacyUG] Without a doubt
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com



  Hello, thank you for asking:

  I have had a series of issues - below are just a few. 
  My first post had to do with the 'Ibid' feature. The online Help Index 
presented this as if it was available. The Customize menu had a check box to 
enable it. The Legacy Web page had a Comparsion Chart to other genealogy 
software in which it indicated that it (and Roots Magic) offered the Ibid 
feature when two others did not - using it as a selling point!  So, I wonder 
why this is not working. I spent a lot of extra time going over things trying 
to figure out what I am not doing right. I get on this forum and one person 
(Ron) tells me that it is no longer available.
  Similar situation for the Source Template Conversion Tool. They got 
instructions how to use this thing. I could not find it and,again, I am taking 
extra time trying to learn this and figure out how to access and use it. I 
really could have used that because I imported a genealogy file and half of my 
citations went into Basic template. I wanted them all under the Source Writer.  
But, I then find out that the Source Template Conversion Tool is still a 
product of someone's imagination yet - even though the directions are telling 
me how to use it. I had to work on rewriting the Sources/Citations individually 
in the Source Writer and deleting the older ones. Then I learn from this forum 
again that it was either discontinued or never started.  

  I wrote about Sibling Relationships - I have three children in a family file 
who were born to the same mother but two of them had a different father. Legacy 
is incorrectly labeling them in the Relationships reports as "step brothers" 
when they are actually half brothers. I reported this two weeks ago and it is 
still not corrected. I want to print a genealogy report for a friend of mine 
whose Family History I researched - and I cannot give him something that looks 
unprofessional as to misclassify his relationship to his half brother and say 
'Oh...it was the software! '
  Sources/Citations as footnotes at the end of the page: I figured this will be 
easier - everything is right on one page to read. Well, one of the facts in my 
Descendant book report referred to citation no. 18. But, there was no 18 in the 
footnotes, it only went as high as 17. 

  As a side note, It seems like none of these programs are blended-family 
friendly - if you want to put the children with the step parent who raised them 
for 20 years. Adoptions are also another issue when you want to include the 
natural parents (when they are known) but want to put the child under the 
adopted parents who raised them.

  I was using FTM vers 10, which was from 2003 when I started genealogy 
research. I just sat down and started typing - never had an issue with it. 
Several mos. ago, I figure maybe I want to move up to something more "modern" - 
forgetting what I already learned about technology - the more sophisticated it 
gets, the more problems!

  Thank you for your help. !



  Jan 9, 2009 02:06:56 PM, 
LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 wrote:

(changed format to plain text)

Re: [LegacyUG] UPGRADE after DELUXE 7 differences?

[Elizabeth Richardson]

Yep! The screens are different. I found the same problem when upgrading from 
v6 to v7 from the disks. Later updates are better. (And I didn't change 
computers nor monitors in the meantime.)


Elizabeth
researching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson

- Original Message - 
From: "Gary Templeman" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] UPGRADE after DELUXE 7 differences?


What screens, how different. Updates may make some subtle changes 
compared to the originally installed version, and artwork on boxes or 
disks does not always reflect the actual program. Things can also look 
different depending on monitor shape, resolution and the Windows themes 
one is using. Unless you are having a problem I wouldn't worry about it.


Gary Templeman

- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 10:09 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] UPGRADE after DELUXE 7 differences?



It appears to me that my Legacy 7 Deluxe discs  may be slightly different
than my Legacy 7.0.0.86.  Is this right?   Screens appear different.







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Re: [LegacyUG] All the POSTS! how to organize? Delete?

[MICHELLE CROSBY]

I never delete..  I keep it in a file on my email- that way, I can work off 
line if I choose and it doesn't take up hard drive space. I also
only keep the ones that interest me- or a response, that way I can go to the 
archieves if I choose.

Shelly
  - Original Message - 
  From: Arnold Sprague 
  To: 
LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 
  Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 12:21 PM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] All the POSTS! how to organize? Delete?


  I too am of the old school where I throw nothing at all away, never, 
  ever. Then when I need to search on something, I merely hit Ctr-F and 
  enter the word or phrase in the Find box.
  Or, if I am interested in all the helpful posts Sherry sends, I 
  merely sort on her name.
  Of course, I use an e-mail program where all the posts, in and out, 
  are stored on my hard drive.
  Of course, when one can buy a huge hard drive (1000GB) for $109, 
  having plenty of room for old, old, old messages is no big deal.

  Arnold Sprague


  At 11:05 AM 1/10/2009, you wrote:
  > I am of the old school; print it.  If I see a thread of 
  > interest, I start a document with each email in order until it 
  > slows down.  Then I save the document in my Legacy Information file 
  > and print it too in order to read through it to get the full impact 
  > of the suggestions, etc.
  >
  >Howland Davis
  >
  >In a message dated 1/10/2009 10:51:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
  >momalo...@aol.com writes:
  >Any ideas on how to organize all the posts we get on LUG?  I do keep 
  >some and have made many sub-folders (as Legacy Sources, Legacy 
  >Locations, Legacy Lessons from RON, Notices from Sherry, 
  >Legacy  pictures, Legacy APPLE, Legacy BOOK, Legacy Reports, Legacy 
  >"Ibid," but has anyone got a good suggestion?  I hate to throw or 
  >delete anything good.  How do others do this?  The subject line sure helps!
  >**New year...new news.  Be the first to know what is making
  >headlines. 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Tips Window on Startt up

[Gene Young]

momalo...@aol.com wrote:
On start up, I use the Tips Window, so I can  continue to learn about Legacy 
BUT the print is so small, it is hard to  read.  How can I change this to say 
a 20 point . . . or even less would be  better.   


Grab a corner of the window and drag it to enlarge the window.  The text should grow with the box. 
I just checked and it will retain this large size on re-start.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Subsequent Citations

[Steve Voght]

Brenda,

I'm not seeing this error in my Descendant Narrative report, either --
if anything, in a few spots where I would expect the source page to
use the "subsequent citation" format it still uses the full source
name (although that might be because my text details differ between
each individual citation in most places.)

There were some bugs with SW in older versions, so can you verify that
you're running the latest update? Go to the Legacy Home tab to
check... it should say version 7.0.0.86 in a box on the right column.

-Steve

On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Brenda Barker  wrote:
> Jenny,
> I just tried using the SW for "Newspapers - Print Editions" template.
>  Source:
> Source List Name:  Cincinnati Times
> Location State:  Ohio
> Location City:  Cincinnati
> Title:  Cincinnati Times
> Source Detail:
> Article:  Person A Obit
> Date:  23 Oct 1955
> Page: 3
> Column: 1
>
> Next I wanted to use the Cincinnati Times for a birth announcement of Person
> B so I entered the data and used "Cite a Master Source" and selected
> Cincinnati Times.  The Source Detail box opened and I filled in the
> information asked (Person B Birth Announcement, 12 Feb 1960, p. 4, col. 3.
> I generated a descendants narrative of their parent so that both sources
> should be on the same report.
> Footnote 1:  "Person A Obit," (Cincinnati) Cincinnati Times, 23 Oct 1955,
> p.3, col. 1
> Footnote 2:  "Person B Birth Announcement," p. 3, col. 2.
> The second footnote should also list the name and location of the newspaper
> and it does not.  The name and location of the newspaper should only be
> omitted if one is citing the same article a second time.
> I noted that in your experiment you used the same date for both newspapers
> and that could be the difference.  I sounds like it may be necessary to
> create a separate master source for each edition of the newspaper rather
> than lump all editions together as a single master source.  If that is the
> case then it would be helpful if date appeared on the Source page rather
> than in Source Detail.
> Thanks,
> Brenda



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RE: [LegacyUG] Without a doubt

[Red Sanders]

jaemtp,
 
Sorry I can't help you with specific problems - I'll leave this to the much 
more experienced folks in this forum.  However, I too am a recent "immigrant" 
from FTM, versions 10 and 16.  I too found the FTM programs  more user friendly 
than Legacy.  In fact, we use FTM as part of our community classes for parents 
in our school district to encourage them to learn how to use computers - via an 
application rather than abstract drills.
 
Having said that, IMHO Legacy provides many more electronic cubby holes, thus 
providing for extensive means of documenting entries as compared to FTM.  I am 
working to learn Legacy via frequentl use, and the CDs.  Based on my 
experience, I would never move our parents straight into Legacy.  I know you 
are looking more for specific answers, rather than encouragement...so will just 
say, keep at it...I believe you'll be rewarded for doing so.
 
Red Sanders



Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 19:08:54 -0600From: jae...@verizon.netsubject: Re: Re: 
[LegacyUG] Without a doubtTo: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Hello, thank you for asking:
 
I have had a series of issues - below are just a few. 
My first post had to do with the 'Ibid' feature. The online Help Index 
presented this as if it was available. The Customize menu had a check box to 
enable it. The Legacy Web page had a Comparsion Chart to other genealogy 
software in which it indicated that it (and Roots Magic) offered the Ibid 
feature when two others did not - using it as a selling point!  So, I wonder 
why this is not working. I spent a lot of extra time going over things trying 
to figure out what I am not doing right. I get on this forum and one person 
(Ron) tells me that it is no longer available.
Similar situation for the Source Template Conversion Tool. They got 
instructions how to use this thing. I could not find it and,again, I am taking 
extra time trying to learn this and figure out how to access and use it. I 
really could have used that because I imported a genealogy file and half of my 
citations went into Basic template. I wanted them all under the Source Writer.  
But, I then find out that the Source Template Conversion Tool is still a 
product of someone's imagination yet - even though the directions are telling 
me how to use it. I had to work on rewriting the Sources/Citations individually 
in the Source Writer and deleting the older ones. Then I learn from this forum 
again that it was either discontinued or never started.  
I wrote about Sibling Relationships - I have three children in a family file 
who were born to the same mother but two of them had a different father. Legacy 
is incorrectly labeling them in the Relationships reports as "step brothers" 
when they are actually half brothers. I reported this two weeks ago and it is 
still not corrected. I want to print a genealogy report for a friend of mine 
whose Family History I researched - and I cannot give him something that looks 
unprofessional as to misclassify his relationship to his half brother and say 
'Oh...it was the software! '
Sources/Citations as footnotes at the end of the page: I figured this will be 
easier - everything is right on one page to read. Well, one of the facts in my 
Descendant book report referred to citation no. 18. But, there was no 18 in the 
footnotes, it only went as high as 17. 
 
As a side note, It seems like none of these programs are blended-family 
friendly - if you want to put the children with the step parent who raised them 
for 20 years. Adoptions are also another issue when you want to include the 
natural parents (when they are known) but want to put the child under the 
adopted parents who raised them.
 
I was using FTM vers 10, which was from 2003 when I started genealogy research. 
I just sat down and started typing - never had an issue with it. Several mos. 
ago, I figure maybe I want to move up to something more "modern" - forgetting 
what I already learned about technology - the more sophisticated it gets, the 
more problems!
 
Thank you for your help. !
Jan 9, 2009 02:06:56 PM, LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:
(changed format to plain text)What is it you're trying to do that you're having 
so much difficulty? Mostly friendly and helpful volunteers on this list are 
happy to make things easier for you, but will bristle a bit at constant 
criticism.Elizabethresearching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) 
Thompson- Original Message - From: jaemtpTo: 
legacyusergr...@legacyfamilytree.comsent: Friday, January 09, 2009 9:18 
AMSubject: Re: [LegacyUG] Without a doubtNo patience? Please know your facts 
before you criticize someone. I have been at this longer than 48 hours. Try 
August! Several hours a day for about three or four days per week. I upgraded 
to Deluxe less than four weeks ago and been spending more time on it. I have 
the manual and online Help Index. But I guess they are incomplete too - Now I 
need training videos (at the handy low price).

Re: [LegacyUG] UPGRADE after DELUXE 7 differences?

[Gary Templeman]

What screens, how different. Updates may make some subtle changes 
compared to the originally installed version, and artwork on boxes or disks 
does not always reflect the actual program. Things can also look different 
depending on monitor shape, resolution and the Windows themes one is using. 
Unless you are having a problem I wouldn't worry about it.


Gary Templeman

- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 10:09 AM
Subject: [LegacyUG] UPGRADE after DELUXE 7 differences?



It appears to me that my Legacy 7 Deluxe discs  may be slightly different
than my Legacy 7.0.0.86.  Is this right?   Screens appear different.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91

[Ann Parsons]

I turned off the computer and turned it back on. I then did back up, got 
error 91 which always puts me out of the program. I went back in did check 
repair, again put me out of program, went back in, did back up, error 91, 
again put me out of the program, went back in did check repair, did back up, 
error 91. I did this a total of 4 times.
I looked at the backup #1 is 7749 KB, #2 is 7737 KB, #3 is 7737, #4 is 7787.



- Original Message - 
From: "Wynthner" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 10:32 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91


>
> It really ought to be a cardinal rule for all computer users that any PC 
> should have a cold boot after any update. You'd be amazed at the little 
> problems it prevents.
>
> --- On Sat, 1/10/09, ronald ferguson  wrote:
>
> > From: ronald ferguson 
> > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91
> > To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> > Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 2:35 PM
> > Ann,
> >
> > Sometimes posts on LUG can be confusing. There is not a
> > problem with printing with version 7.0.0.86. However, with
> > some set-ups it would seem that after updating, Legacy does
> > not automatically recognise the printer. If so restart your
> > PC and reopen Legacy.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ron Ferguson
> >
> > _
> >
> > Now completely revised
> > http://www.fergys.co.uk
> > View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
> > http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
> > For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
> > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
> > _
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> > > From: aparsons2...@msn.com
> > > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> > > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91
> > > Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 07:08:29 -0700
> > >
> > > Thanks Ron for trying to help me. The reason I did not
> > update to .86 is what
> > > I have read on LUG about printing problems. I will
> > update pronto!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "ronald ferguson"
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 6:15 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ann,
> > >
> > > Why do you say the #1 does not apply to you, when you
> > are not running the
> > > latest version?
> > >
> > > I suggest that you update to the current version,
> > which you obviously know
> > > about, and then come back to us if the problem
> > persists.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ron Ferguson
> > >
> > >
> > _
> > >
> > > Now completely revised
> > > http://www.fergys.co.uk
> > > View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
> > > http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
> > > For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
> > > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
> > >
> > _
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > >> From: aparsons2...@msn.com
> > >> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
> > >> Subject: [LegacyUG] Error 91
> > >> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 05:45:37 -0700
> > >>
> > >> Does someone know what causes error 91. I get this
> > when I back up my
> > >> Legacy
> > >> files. There doesn't seem to be a pattern to
> > this. Sometimes I get it, yet
> > >> the back up flash drive shows a good back up. I
> > reopen Legacy and do
> > >> backup
> > >> and do not get an error message. It does not seem
> > to be the flash drives
> > >> as
> > >> I have used eight different ones of various
> > brands. I printed out the
> > >> instructions for error 91 from the Legacy
> > homepage.
> > >>
> > >> #1 doesn't seem to apply to me as I am already
> > using Legacy 7.0.0.81 I
> > >> have
> > >> not went to update number .86
> > >>
> > >> #2 I have done run file maintenance - check/repair
> > each time I get error
> > >> 91
> > >> message. When I click no nothing happens the
> > screen I am not sure how to
> > >> describe it kind of flashes is best I can think of
> > to describe it. I then
> > >> click on quit and the program closes. I then check
> > my backup device and it
> > >> shows a back up has been added to it. If I go back
> > into the program and do
> > >> back up usually I do not get an error message. The
> > backup device shows a
> > >> back up has been added to it. This is on a Dell
> > laptop 1525 64 bit Vista
> > >> Home Premium. I took the flash drive and put my
> > data on an Acer laptop
> > >> Aspire I do not know if 32 or 64 bit using Vista
> > Home Premium. I open
> > >> Legacy
> > >> and the data looks ok. Without changing any data I
> > do backup and usually
> > >> get
> > >> error 91, I do check repair & do not get the
> > error message. Other times on
> > >> both the Dell & Acer I can backup without
> > getting and error message. There
> > >> does not seem to be a pattern to this.
> > >>
> > >> I have not tried Step 

[LegacyUG] Tips Window on Startt up

[Momalot66]

On start up, I use the Tips Window, so I can  continue to learn about Legacy 
BUT the print is so small, it is hard to  read.  How can I change this to say 
a 20 point . . . or even less would be  better.   

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Re: [LegacyUG] All the POSTS! how to organize? Delete?

[Arnold Sprague]

I too am of the old school where I throw nothing at all away, never, 
ever. Then when I need to search on something, I merely hit Ctr-F and 
enter the word or phrase in the Find box.
Or, if I am interested in all the helpful posts Sherry sends, I 
merely sort on her name.
Of course, I use an e-mail program where all the posts, in and out, 
are stored on my hard drive.
Of course, when one can buy a huge hard drive (1000GB) for $109, 
having plenty of room for old, old, old messages is no big deal.


Arnold Sprague


At 11:05 AM 1/10/2009, you wrote:
I am of the old school; print it.  If I see a thread of 
interest, I start a document with each email in order until it 
slows down.  Then I save the document in my Legacy Information file 
and print it too in order to read through it to get the full impact 
of the suggestions, etc.


Howland Davis

In a message dated 1/10/2009 10:51:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
momalo...@aol.com writes:
Any ideas on how to organize all the posts we get on LUG?  I do keep 
some and have made many sub-folders (as Legacy Sources, Legacy 
Locations, Legacy Lessons from RON, Notices from Sherry, 
Legacy  pictures, Legacy APPLE, Legacy BOOK, Legacy Reports, Legacy 
"Ibid," but has anyone got a good suggestion?  I hate to throw or 
delete anything good.  How do others do this?  The subject line sure helps!

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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 (Saturday Humor)

[Ann Parsons]

Howland,
You have made my day!! I am about in tears with this error 91.
Ann


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Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 (Saturday Humor)


> In a message dated 1/10/2009 12:41:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> wynth...@yahoo.com writes:
>
> It really ought to be a cardinal rule for all computer users  that any PC
> should have a cold boot after any update.  Being in  Ohio and having 6+" 
> of snow
> on the ground, I definitely have a cold boot after  shoveling.  It fixed
> everything.
> Howland Davis
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[LegacyUG] UPGRADE after DELUXE 7 differences?

[Momalot66]

It appears to me that my Legacy 7 Deluxe discs  may be slightly different 
than my Legacy 7.0.0.86.  Is this right?   Screens appear different.  

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Re: [LegacyUG] All the POSTS! how to organize? Delete?

[HowlandDavisII]

I am of the old school; print  it.  If I see a thread of interest, I start a 
document with each email  in order until it slows down.  Then I save the 
document in my Legacy  Information file and print it too in order to read 
through 
it to get the full  impact of the suggestions, etc.
 
Howland Davis
 
In a message dated 1/10/2009 10:51:29 A.M. Eastern Standard  Time, 
momalo...@aol.com writes:

Any  ideas on how to organize all the posts we get on LUG?  I do keep  some 
and have made many sub-folders (as Legacy Sources, Legacy Locations,  Legacy 
Lessons from RON, Notices from Sherry, Legacy  pictures, Legacy  APPLE, Legacy 
BOOK, Legacy Reports, Legacy "Ibid," but has anyone got a  good suggestion?  I 
hate to throw or delete  anything good.  How do others do this?  The subject 
line  sure helps!
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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 (Saturday Humor)

[HowlandDavisII]

In a message dated 1/10/2009 12:41:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
wynth...@yahoo.com writes:

It really ought to be a cardinal rule for all computer users  that any PC 
should have a cold boot after any update.  Being in  Ohio and having 6+" of 
snow 
on the ground, I definitely have a cold boot after  shoveling.  It fixed 
everything.
Howland Davis
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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a Birth Announcement

[Jenny M Benson]

Alan Jones wrote
I was wondering how one would source a Birth Announcement card one gets 
in the mail from the parents announcing a child's birth?


I would use Artifacts - Privately held.
--
Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] Without a doubt

[Jenny M Benson]

 wrote
The child was born to a single / never married woman. The child was 
then adopted by the biological mother’s sister and her husband. So, 
the maternal grandparents are the same. Shortly afterwards, the 
biological mother got married for the first time. However, she did not 
marry the biological father. I did not know how to enter her 
husband’s name and keep the child separate from this marriage. I am 
not sure what action I took, but in one of my attempts, Legacy created 
two marriages. The report showed: “she first married someone. the 
child from this marriage was " - which is not correct. I also tried 
entering her husband as her first and then unlinking the child from 
him. However, it seems that Legacy will allow one parent to be linked 
to an existing child, but you cannot unlink a child from just one 
parent. It didn't work. So I just deleted all three individuals from 
the file (child bio mother and her husband) and left everything blank 
until I know how to proceed.


Create a "husband" for the woman, but on the Marriage Information screen 
check the box for "This couple did not marry."  You can open the Wording 
Options tab and change the wording for Reports if you wish.  Add the 
child to this partnership.  Then create a second husband for the woman - 
the one she actually married.

--
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RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91

[Wynthner]

It really ought to be a cardinal rule for all computer users that any PC should 
have a cold boot after any update. You'd be amazed at the little problems it 
prevents.

--- On Sat, 1/10/09, ronald ferguson  wrote:

> From: ronald ferguson 
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91
> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 2:35 PM
> Ann,
>  
> Sometimes posts on LUG can be confusing. There is not a
> problem with printing with version 7.0.0.86. However, with
> some set-ups it would seem that after updating, Legacy does
> not automatically recognise the printer. If so restart your
> PC and reopen Legacy.
> 
> 
> 
> Ron Ferguson
> 
> _
> 
> Now completely revised
> http://www.fergys.co.uk
> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
> _
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > From: aparsons2...@msn.com
> > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91
> > Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 07:08:29 -0700
> >
> > Thanks Ron for trying to help me. The reason I did not
> update to .86 is what
> > I have read on LUG about printing problems. I will
> update pronto!!
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "ronald ferguson" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 6:15 AM
> > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91
> >
> >
> >
> > Ann,
> >
> > Why do you say the #1 does not apply to you, when you
> are not running the
> > latest version?
> >
> > I suggest that you update to the current version,
> which you obviously know
> > about, and then come back to us if the problem
> persists.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ron Ferguson
> >
> >
> _
> >
> > Now completely revised
> > http://www.fergys.co.uk
> > View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
> > http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
> > For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
> > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
> >
> _
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >> From: aparsons2...@msn.com
> >> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
> >> Subject: [LegacyUG] Error 91
> >> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 05:45:37 -0700
> >>
> >> Does someone know what causes error 91. I get this
> when I back up my
> >> Legacy
> >> files. There doesn't seem to be a pattern to
> this. Sometimes I get it, yet
> >> the back up flash drive shows a good back up. I
> reopen Legacy and do
> >> backup
> >> and do not get an error message. It does not seem
> to be the flash drives
> >> as
> >> I have used eight different ones of various
> brands. I printed out the
> >> instructions for error 91 from the Legacy
> homepage.
> >>
> >> #1 doesn't seem to apply to me as I am already
> using Legacy 7.0.0.81 I
> >> have
> >> not went to update number .86
> >>
> >> #2 I have done run file maintenance - check/repair
> each time I get error
> >> 91
> >> message. When I click no nothing happens the
> screen I am not sure how to
> >> describe it kind of flashes is best I can think of
> to describe it. I then
> >> click on quit and the program closes. I then check
> my backup device and it
> >> shows a back up has been added to it. If I go back
> into the program and do
> >> back up usually I do not get an error message. The
> backup device shows a
> >> back up has been added to it. This is on a Dell
> laptop 1525 64 bit Vista
> >> Home Premium. I took the flash drive and put my
> data on an Acer laptop
> >> Aspire I do not know if 32 or 64 bit using Vista
> Home Premium. I open
> >> Legacy
> >> and the data looks ok. Without changing any data I
> do backup and usually
> >> get
> >> error 91, I do check repair & do not get the
> error message. Other times on
> >> both the Dell & Acer I can backup without
> getting and error message. There
> >> does not seem to be a pattern to this.
> >>
> >> I have not tried Step 3.
> >>
> >> I would appreciate suggestions and advice on what
> is the cause of error 91
> >> and what I can do to fix this problem. Please
> don't comment on how dumb I
> >> am, I already have been told this. I have no one
> else to ask for help
> >> other
> >> than you folks or I would do so. Thank you for
> taking the time to read
> >> this.
> >>
> >> Ann Parsons
> >> Alamogordo, New Mexico, USA
> >>
> >>
> >
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Re: [LegacyUG] Subsequent Citations

[Brenda Barker]

Jenny,
I just tried using the SW for "Newspapers - Print Editions" template.  
 Source:
Source List Name:  Cincinnati Times
Location State:  Ohio
Location City:  Cincinnati
Title:  Cincinnati Times
Source Detail:
Article:  Person A Obit
Date:  23 Oct 1955
Page: 3
Column: 1

Next I wanted to use the Cincinnati Times for a birth announcement of Person B 
so I entered the data and used "Cite a Master Source" and selected Cincinnati 
Times.  The Source Detail box opened and I filled in the information asked 
(Person B Birth Announcement, 12 Feb 1960, p. 4, col. 3.  I generated a 
descendants narrative of their parent so that both sources should be on the 
same report.
Footnote 1:  "Person A Obit," (Cincinnati) Cincinnati Times, 23 Oct 1955, p.3, 
col. 1
Footnote 2:  "Person B Birth Announcement," p. 3, col. 2.
The second footnote should also list the name and location of the newspaper and 
it does not.  The name and location of the newspaper should only be omitted if 
one is citing the same article a second time.
I noted that in your experiment you used the same date for both newspapers and 
that could be the difference.  I sounds like it may be necessary to create a 
separate master source for each edition of the newspaper rather than lump all 
editions together as a single master source.  If that is the case then it would 
be helpful if date appeared on the Source page rather than in Source Detail.
Thanks,
Brenda


  Can you give us an example of the citations your reports are showing, as 
  this does not seem to tally with my (limited) experience.  Also, tell us 
  exactly which SW template you are using.

  I have not created any SW Sources for newspapers yet, but I just opened 
  my Test file and created a Source using the "Newspapers - Print 
  Editions" template.  For State, City and Title I entered "England", 
  "London" and "The Times" respectively.  Citing that Source for the birth 
  and death of person A, I entered the details as Article "Obit Adams", 
  date "1 January 2009", Page "9", Column "A".
  Then I cited the same source for the death of person B, but I put "Obit 
  Nemo" as the Article, used the same date and different Page and Column.

  When I ran a FGS report, the first birth and death were numbered 2 and 
  the citation appeared as "2. "Obit Adams" (London) The Times, 1 January 
  2009, p.9, col.A".  The second person's death was numbered 7 and the 
  citation appeared as "7.  "Obit Nemo" (London) The Times, 1 January 
  2009, p.6, col.C"

  That's just as I would have expected.
  -- 
  Jenny M Benson












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Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcing a Birth Announcement

[Gene Young]

Alan Jones wrote:

Sourcing a Birth Announcement

I was wondering how one would source a Birth Announcement card one gets 
in the mail from the parents announcing a child's birth? They usually 



I create a source with:

Source List Name - "Birth Announcement - [person's name here]"
Type - "Written Announcement"
Author - The person who wrote/sent it.
Title - "Birth Announcement of [person's name here]".
Publication Facts - The date it was mailed/received (whichever you prefer)
Text of source - The contents or the announcement transcribed completely.
Source detail - Use the Source title.

Works for me and gives all the information in a readable, coherent and 
understandable manner.

--
Gene Y.
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RE: [LegacyUG] Without a doubt

[ronald ferguson]

Ed,
 
Legacy has considerable flexibility when it comes to dealing with multiple 
marriages/ adoptions etc and the problem is getting to know them all.
 
>From your post it would seem that at present you do not have the mother, child 
>and (unknown) father in your files. so firstly enter the details of the mother 
>then the child and link the child to the (existing) mother, giving the child 
>the mother's surname (I guess that's the situation). This will create a 
>"marriage" because a child must have 2 parents (one of which may be a test 
>tube these days). Go to the marriage screen and check "this couple never 
>married" and change the wording to "had a relationship with" or "partnered" or 
>whatever else suits you.
 
Now marry the mother to her spouse ie. link the mother to the (existing) 
individual, entering any marriage details if you have them.
 
You can now link the child to the (existing) parents and set the status to 
adoptive for the father and natural for the mother. As the child has now the 
surname of the new father enter that in the AKAs which you can switch with the 
birth name should you so wish.
 
I have written this off the top of my head, so if you hit a problem do come 
back.
 




Ron Ferguson

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> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 10:22:55 -0600
> From: jae...@verizon.net
> Subject: Re: Re: Re: [LegacyUG] Without a doubt
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>
From: Elizabeth Richardson
Sent: Jan 9, 2009 08:37:01 PM
>
> Hello, Thanks for responding.
>
> Call me Ed. I try to be anonymous online for privacy/security sake – I have 
> others to consider as well as myself.
>
> I used my webmail (not an email client) to respond to these most recent posts 
> and had it set on plain text. I hope it is OK now.
>
> Re: Sibling Relationships: The children are entered under the appropriaate 
> father. Not a problem there. On reports, they appear under the correct 
> father. The only issue seems to be misclassifying them as “step”
>
>
> Re: Sources/Ctiations as footnotes at the end of the page: “If an event has 
> multiple citations….” I do not use the feature to combine citations. That 
> check box has been blank. Nonetheless, even if it was enabled, the problem is 
> still the same: There was a specific reference number to a citation, but that 
> number and its citation were missing from the list.
>
> Re: Blenced families: I thought about your suggestion but was hesitant. I 
> tried that shortly after I started using Legacy – somehow I ended up creating 
> additional individuals / duplicate names in the list.
>
> Re: Adoptions. The child was born to a single / never married woman. The 
> child was then adopted by the biological mother’s sister and her husband. So, 
> the maternal grandparents are the same. Shortly afterwards, the biological 
> mother got married for the first time. However, she did not marry the 
> biological father. I did not know how to enter her husband’s name and keep 
> the child separate from this marriage. I am not sure what action I took, but 
> in one of my attempts, Legacy created two marriages. The report showed: “she 
> first married someone. the child from this marriage was " - which is not 
> correct. I also tried entering her husband as her first and then unlinking 
> the child from him. However, it seems that Legacy will allow one parent to be 
> linked to an existing child, but you cannot unlink a child from just one 
> parent. It didn't work. So I just deleted all three individuals from the file 
> (child bio mother and her husband) and left everything blank until I know how 
> to proceed.
> ---
>
> Jan 9, 2009 08:37:01 PM, LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:
> I can address a part of your post, but as you note, ibid and the source
> writer conversion tool problems have already been addressed.
> First, most of us sign our names, and I don't know what to call you. It's
> very difficult to pronounce jaemtp in my mind. Second, please note that
> posting to the list is to be in plain text, and I have changed this reply to
> reflect that. The font in your post was very small and I had trouble reading
> it, though, as you can tell, I did manage.
> You wrote: " I wrote about Sibling Relationships - I have three children in
> a family file who were born to the same mother but two of them had a
> different father. Legacy is incorrectly labeling them in the Relationships
> reports as "step brothers" when they are actually half brothers. I reported
> this two weeks ago and it is still not corrected. I want to print a
> genealogy report for a frien

[LegacyUG] Sourcing a Birth Announcement

[Alan Jones]

Sourcing a Birth Announcement

I was wondering how one would source a Birth Announcement card one gets 
in the mail from the parents announcing a child's birth? They usually 
have the name of the child weigh, length, and parents names. 

I was looking in the source writer but could not find anything I liked.  
Most everything for birth is a birth certificate and the various letter 
options did not seem to apply to a generic card sent out to many family 
and friends.


Am I missing something or is this style that may need to be added?

thanks

Alan




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Re: [LegacyUG] All the POSTS! how to organize? Delete?

[Jenny M Benson]

 wrote
Any ideas on how to organize all the posts we  get on LUG???  I do keep 
some and have made many sub-folders (as Legacy  Sources, Legacy 
Locations, Legacy Lessons from RON, Notices from Sherry, Legacy 
pictures, Legacy APPLE, Legacy BOOK, Legacy Reports, Legacy "Ibid", but 
has  anyone got a good suggestion?   I hate to throw or delete anything 
good   How do others do this?  The subjectt line sure helps!


I don't keep them!  My program automatically deletes the messages after 
5 days (I can set the number of days to whatever I like) but I can mark 
some to be kept if I want a particular thread for a bit longer.  I 
figure that I can always access the Archives if I need to look at past 
messages - no need to use up my hard disk space!

--
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Re: Re: Re: [LegacyUG] Without a doubt

[jaemtp]

Forgot to mention in my last post about the Adoption:  The natural father's identity is not known, was never disclosed. So, I cannot enter his name in for the child's father and say "she had a relationship with.."  Thanks--Jan 9, 2009 08:37:01 PM, LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:I can address a part of your post, but as you note, ibid and the source writer conversion tool problems have already been addressed.First, most of us sign our names, and I don't know what to call you. It's very difficult to pronounce jaemtp in my mind. Second, please note that posting to the list is to be in plain text, and I have changed this reply to reflect that. The font in your post was very small and I had trouble reading it, though, as you can tell, I did manage.You wrote: " I wrote about Sibling Relationships - I have three children in a family file who were born to the same mother but two of them had a different father. Legacy is incorrectly labeling them in the Relationships reports as "step brothers" when they are actually half brothers. I reported this two weeks ago and it is still not corrected. I want to print a genealogy report for a friend of mine whose Family History I researched - and I cannot give him something that looks unprofessional as to misclassify his relationship to his half brother and say 'Oh...it was the software! ' "I have many half siblings in my database and they appear in the relationship report correctly. Do you have them linked to the proper parents? By this, I mean do you have the mother married to both the fathers, and the children correctly listed with their biological father. When I do this, and set relationships on one of the children, all the relationships report correctly.You wrote: "Sources/Citations as footnotes at the end of the page: I figured this will be easier - everything is right on one page to read. Well, one of the facts in my Descendant book report referred to citation no. 18. But, there was no 18 in the footnotes, it only went as high as 17. "Do you have the box "If an event has multiple citations, combine them all into one paragraph" ticked? If so, the second citation number will not be represented in the footnotes, rather that cite will be combined with the other footnote. This feature was confusing to many of us until we got used to it, and apparently it is the currently accepted method of citing sources.You wrote: "As a side note, It seems like none of these programs are blended-family friendly - if you want to put the children with the step parent who raised them for 20 years. Adoptions are also another issue when you want to include the natural parents (when they are known) but want to put the child under the adopted parents who raised them."A child can have more than one set of parents. Simply link the adopted child to both sets of parents, then if you wish you can set the adopted parents to the preferred parents, which will then show on reports and on screen.Hope this helps,Elizabethresearching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompson- Original Message - From: jae...@verizon.netTo: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.comSent: Friday, January 09, 2009 4:08 PMSubject: Re: Re: [LegacyUG] Without a doubtHello, thank you for asking:I have had a series of issues - below are just a few.My first post had to do with the 'Ibid' feature. The online Help Index presented this as if it was available. The Customize menu had a check box to enable it. The Legacy Web page had a Comparsion Chart to other genealogy software in which it indicated that it (and Roots Magic) offered the Ibid feature when two others did not - using it as a selling point! So, I wonder why this is not working. I spent a lot of extra time going over things trying to figure out what I am not doing right. I get on this forum and one person (Ron) tells me that it is no longer available.Similar situation for the Source Template Conversion Tool. They got instructions how to use this thing. I could not find it and,again, I am taking extra time trying to learn this and figure out how to access and use it. I really could have used that because I imported a genealogy file and half of my citations went into Basic template. I wanted them all under the Source Writer. But, I then find out that the Source Template Conversion Tool is still a product of someone's imagination yet - even though the directions are telling me how to use it. I had to work on rewriting the Sources/Citations individually in the Source Writer and deleting the older ones. Then I learn from this forum again that it was either discontinued or never started.I wrote about Sibling Relationships - I have three children in a family file who were born to the same mother but two of them had a different father. Legacy is incorrectly labeling them in the Relationships reports as "step brothers" when they are actually half brothers. I reported this two weeks ago and it is still not corrected. I

Re: Re: Re: [LegacyUG] Without a doubt

[jaemtp]

>>>From: Elizabeth Richardson  >>>Sent: Jan 9, 2009 08:37:01 PM  Hello, Thanks for responding.  Call me Ed.  I try to be anonymous online for privacy/security sake – I have others to consider as well as myself. I used my webmail (not an email client) to respond to these most recent posts and had it set on plain text. I hope it is OK now. Re: Sibling Relationships: The children are entered under the appropriaate father. Not a problem there. On reports, they appear under the correct father. The only issue seems to be misclassifying them as “step”  Re: Sources/Ctiations as footnotes at the end of the page: “If an event has multiple citations….” I do not use the feature to combine citations. That check box has been blank. Nonetheless, even if it was enabled, the problem is still the same: There was a specific reference number to a citation, but that number and its citation were missing from the list. Re: Blenced families: I thought about your suggestion but was hesitant. I tried that shortly after I started using Legacy – somehow I ended up creating additional individuals / duplicate names in the list.  Re: Adoptions. The child was born to a single / never married woman. The child was then adopted by the biological mother’s sister and her husband.  So, the maternal grandparents are the same. Shortly afterwards, the biological mother got married for the first time. However, she did not marry the biological father.  I did not know how to enter her husband’s name and keep the child separate from this marriage. I am not sure what action I took, but in one of my attempts, Legacy created two marriages. The report showed: “she first married someone. the child from this marriage was "  -  which is not correct. I also tried entering her husband as her first and then unlinking the child from him. However, it seems that Legacy will allow one parent to be linked to an existing child, but you cannot unlink a child from just one parent. It didn't work. So I just deleted all three individuals from the file (child bio mother and her husband) and left everything blank until I know how to proceed. --- Jan 9, 2009 08:37:01 PM, LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:I can address a part of your post, but as you note, ibid and the source writer conversion tool problems have already been addressed.First, most of us sign our names, and I don't know what to call you. It's very difficult to pronounce jaemtp in my mind. Second, please note that posting to the list is to be in plain text, and I have changed this reply to reflect that. The font in your post was very small and I had trouble reading it, though, as you can tell, I did manage.You wrote: " I wrote about Sibling Relationships - I have three children in a family file who were born to the same mother but two of them had a different father. Legacy is incorrectly labeling them in the Relationships reports as "step brothers" when they are actually half brothers. I reported this two weeks ago and it is still not corrected. I want to print a genealogy report for a friend of mine whose Family History I researched - and I cannot give him something that looks unprofessional as to misclassify his relationship to his half brother and say 'Oh...it was the software! ' "I have many half siblings in my database and they appear in the relationship report correctly. Do you have them linked to the proper parents? By this, I mean do you have the mother married to both the fathers, and the children correctly listed with their biological father. When I do this, and set relationships on one of the children, all the relationships report correctly.You wrote: "Sources/Citations as footnotes at the end of the page: I figured this will be easier - everything is right on one page to read. Well, one of the facts in my Descendant book report referred to citation no. 18. But, there was no 18 in the footnotes, it only went as high as 17. "Do you have the box "If an event has multiple citations, combine them all into one paragraph" ticked? If so, the second citation number will not be represented in the footnotes, rather that cite will be combined with the other footnote. This feature was confusing to many of us until we got used to it, and apparently it is the currently accepted method of citing sources.You wrote: "As a side note, It seems like none of these programs are blended-family friendly - if you want to put the children with the step parent who raised them for 20 years. Adoptions are also another issue when you want to include the natural parents (when they are known) but want to put the child under the adopted parents who raised them."A child can have more than one set of parents. Simply link the adopted child to both sets of parents, then if you wish you can set the adopted parents to the preferred parents, which will then show on reports and on screen.Hope this helps,Elizabethresearching the descendants of William and Sarah (Patterson) Thompso

RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91 maybe solved????

[ronald ferguson]

Ann,
 
Let's hope that you are right, and all will be OK from now on. You will also 
find that most of the problems in the reports have now been resolved.



Ron Ferguson

_

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_









> From: aparsons2...@msn.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 maybe solved
> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 08:53:05 -0700
>
> Ron,
>
> I updated to .86 then entered a few items into the database. I did backup
> and got error 91, I did check/repair and received an error message, the
> first one in months, that I had 1 source repository record referred to that
> did not exist. I corrected that. I tried back up got error 91, did
> check/repair, tried back up it went ok. I then checked drive G where I had
> backed up to. The first back up, the one with the error message was 7735 KB,
> the last back up, the one that went ok was 7733 KB. The only thing I did was
> correct the repository to the FHL. I tried backup again on a different flash
> drive, it went ok. It has 7733 KB.
>
> Hopefully doing as you advised has eliminated whatever was causing error 91
> message. We not so skilled with computers are a lucky bunch of people to
> have you helping us.
>
> Thank you,
> Ann Parsons
> Alamogordo, New Mexico, USA
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "ronald ferguson" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 7:35 AM
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91
>
>
>
> Ann,
>
> Sometimes posts on LUG can be confusing. There is not a problem with
> printing with version 7.0.0.86. However, with some set-ups it would seem
> that after updating, Legacy does not automatically recognise the printer. If
> so restart your PC and reopen Legacy.
>
>
>
> Ron Ferguson
> _
>
>
>
> 
>> From: aparsons2...@msn.com
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91
>> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 07:08:29 -0700
>>
>> Thanks Ron for trying to help me. The reason I did not update to .86 is
>> what
>> I have read on LUG about printing problems. I will update pronto!!
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "ronald ferguson"
>> To:
>> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 6:15 AM
>> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91
>>
>>
>>
>> Ann,
>>
>> Why do you say the #1 does not apply to you, when you are not running the
>> latest version?
>>
>> I suggest that you update to the current version, which you obviously know
>> about, and then come back to us if the problem persists.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ron Ferguson
>
>> 
>
>>> From: aparsons2...@msn.com
>>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
>>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Error 91
>>> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 05:45:37 -0700
>>>
>>> Does someone know what causes error 91. I get this when I back up my
>>> Legacy
>>> files. There doesn't seem to be a pattern to this. Sometimes I get it,
>>> yet
>>> the back up flash drive shows a good back up. I reopen Legacy and do
>>> backup
>>> and do not get an error message. It does not seem to be the flash drives
>>> as
>>> I have used eight different ones of various brands. I printed out the
>>> instructions for error 91 from the Legacy homepage.
>>>
>>> #1 doesn't seem to apply to me as I am already using Legacy 7.0.0.81 I
>>> have
>>> not went to update number .86
>>>
>>> #2 I have done run file maintenance - check/repair each time I get error
>>> 91
>>> message. When I click no nothing happens the screen I am not sure how to
>>> describe it kind of flashes is best I can think of to describe it. I then
>>> click on quit and the program closes. I then check my backup device and
>>> it
>>> shows a back up has been added to it. If I go back into the program and
>>> do
>>> back up usually I do not get an error message. The backup device shows a
>>> back up has been added to it. This is on a Dell laptop 1525 64 bit Vista
>>> Home Premium. I took the flash drive and put my data on an Acer laptop
>>> Aspire I do not know if 32 or 64 bit using Vista Home Premium. I open
>>> Legacy
>>> and the data looks ok. Without changing any data I do backup and usually
>>> get
>>> error 91, I do check repair & do not get the error message. Other times
>>> on
>>> both the Dell & Acer I can backup without getting and error message.
>>> There
>>> does not seem to be a pattern to this.
>>>
>>> I have not tried Step 3.
>>>
>>> I would appreciate suggestions and advice on what is the cause of error
>>> 91
>>> and what I can do to fix this problem. Please don't comment on how dumb I
>>> am, I already have been told this. I have no one else to ask for 

Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91 maybe solved????

[Ann Parsons]

Ron,

I updated to .86 then entered a few items into the database. I did backup 
and got error 91, I did check/repair and received an error message, the 
first one in months, that I had 1 source repository record referred to that 
did not exist. I corrected that. I tried back up got error 91, did 
check/repair, tried back up it went ok. I then checked drive G where I had 
backed up to. The first back up, the one with the error message was 7735 KB, 
the last back up, the one that went ok was 7733 KB. The only thing I did was 
correct the repository to the FHL. I tried backup again on a different flash 
drive, it went ok. It has 7733 KB.

Hopefully doing as you advised has eliminated whatever was causing error 91 
message. We not so skilled with computers are a lucky bunch of people to 
have you helping us.

Thank you,
Ann Parsons
Alamogordo, New Mexico, USA


- Original Message - 
From: "ronald ferguson" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 7:35 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91



Ann,

Sometimes posts on LUG can be confusing. There is not a problem with 
printing with version 7.0.0.86. However, with some set-ups it would seem 
that after updating, Legacy does not automatically recognise the printer. If 
so restart your PC and reopen Legacy.



Ron Ferguson
_




> From: aparsons2...@msn.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91
> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 07:08:29 -0700
>
> Thanks Ron for trying to help me. The reason I did not update to .86 is 
> what
> I have read on LUG about printing problems. I will update pronto!!
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "ronald ferguson"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 6:15 AM
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91
>
>
>
> Ann,
>
> Why do you say the #1 does not apply to you, when you are not running the
> latest version?
>
> I suggest that you update to the current version, which you obviously know
> about, and then come back to us if the problem persists.
>
>
>
> Ron Ferguson

> 

>> From: aparsons2...@msn.com
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Error 91
>> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 05:45:37 -0700
>>
>> Does someone know what causes error 91. I get this when I back up my
>> Legacy
>> files. There doesn't seem to be a pattern to this. Sometimes I get it, 
>> yet
>> the back up flash drive shows a good back up. I reopen Legacy and do
>> backup
>> and do not get an error message. It does not seem to be the flash drives
>> as
>> I have used eight different ones of various brands. I printed out the
>> instructions for error 91 from the Legacy homepage.
>>
>> #1 doesn't seem to apply to me as I am already using Legacy 7.0.0.81 I
>> have
>> not went to update number .86
>>
>> #2 I have done run file maintenance - check/repair each time I get error
>> 91
>> message. When I click no nothing happens the screen I am not sure how to
>> describe it kind of flashes is best I can think of to describe it. I then
>> click on quit and the program closes. I then check my backup device and 
>> it
>> shows a back up has been added to it. If I go back into the program and 
>> do
>> back up usually I do not get an error message. The backup device shows a
>> back up has been added to it. This is on a Dell laptop 1525 64 bit Vista
>> Home Premium. I took the flash drive and put my data on an Acer laptop
>> Aspire I do not know if 32 or 64 bit using Vista Home Premium. I open
>> Legacy
>> and the data looks ok. Without changing any data I do backup and usually
>> get
>> error 91, I do check repair & do not get the error message. Other times 
>> on
>> both the Dell & Acer I can backup without getting and error message. 
>> There
>> does not seem to be a pattern to this.
>>
>> I have not tried Step 3.
>>
>> I would appreciate suggestions and advice on what is the cause of error 
>> 91
>> and what I can do to fix this problem. Please don't comment on how dumb I
>> am, I already have been told this. I have no one else to ask for help
>> other
>> than you folks or I would do so. Thank you for taking the time to read
>> this.
>>
>> Ann Parsons
>> Alamogordo, New Mexico, USA 




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[LegacyUG] All the POSTS! how to organize? Delete?

[Momalot66]

Any ideas on how to organize all the posts we  get on LUG???  I do keep some 
and have made many sub-folders (as Legacy  Sources, Legacy Locations, Legacy 
Lessons from RON, Notices from Sherry, Legacy  pictures, Legacy APPLE, Legacy 
BOOK, Legacy Reports, Legacy "Ibid", but has  anyone got a good suggestion?   I 
hate to throw or delete anything  good   How do others do this?  The subjectt 
line sure helps!  

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RE: [LegacyUG] UK Geography

[Jeannine Powell - GenQueen]

Ron ... Thanks so much for this tidbit of info. I really appreciate it! I
also have had the same question as the original poster but never even
thought to ask about it!

Cheers!
Jeannine 
In Beautiful British Columbia

-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of ronald ferguson
Sent: January 9, 2009 5:08 AM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] UK Geography


Now, Mike, you know I'm 100% in agreement.
 
The UK is a Kingdom *not* a country, and England is a country which is part
of Great Britain. The latter comprising England, Scotland and Wales. The UK
comprises Great Britain plus Northern Ireland.

Hvaing said that, we do not use eg. "England, Great Britain", only "England"

Ron Ferguson

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RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91

[ronald ferguson]

Ann,
 
Sometimes posts on LUG can be confusing. There is not a problem with printing 
with version 7.0.0.86. However, with some set-ups it would seem that after 
updating, Legacy does not automatically recognise the printer. If so restart 
your PC and reopen Legacy.



Ron Ferguson

_

Now completely revised
http://www.fergys.co.uk
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> From: aparsons2...@msn.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 91
> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 07:08:29 -0700
>
> Thanks Ron for trying to help me. The reason I did not update to .86 is what
> I have read on LUG about printing problems. I will update pronto!!
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "ronald ferguson" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 6:15 AM
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Error 91
>
>
>
> Ann,
>
> Why do you say the #1 does not apply to you, when you are not running the
> latest version?
>
> I suggest that you update to the current version, which you obviously know
> about, and then come back to us if the problem persists.
>
>
>
> Ron Ferguson
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> Now completely revised
> http://www.fergys.co.uk
> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
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>> From: aparsons2...@msn.com
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Error 91
>> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 05:45:37 -0700
>>
>> Does someone know what causes error 91. I get this when I back up my
>> Legacy
>> files. There doesn't seem to be a pattern to this. Sometimes I get it, yet
>> the back up flash drive shows a good back up. I reopen Legacy and do
>> backup
>> and do not get an error message. It does not seem to be the flash drives
>> as
>> I have used eight different ones of various brands. I printed out the
>> instructions for error 91 from the Legacy homepage.
>>
>> #1 doesn't seem to apply to me as I am already using Legacy 7.0.0.81 I
>> have
>> not went to update number .86
>>
>> #2 I have done run file maintenance - check/repair each time I get error
>> 91
>> message. When I click no nothing happens the screen I am not sure how to
>> describe it kind of flashes is best I can think of to describe it. I then
>> click on quit and the program closes. I then check my backup device and it
>> shows a back up has been added to it. If I go back into the program and do
>> back up usually I do not get an error message. The backup device shows a
>> back up has been added to it. This is on a Dell laptop 1525 64 bit Vista
>> Home Premium. I took the flash drive and put my data on an Acer laptop
>> Aspire I do not know if 32 or 64 bit using Vista Home Premium. I open
>> Legacy
>> and the data looks ok. Without changing any data I do backup and usually
>> get
>> error 91, I do check repair & do not get the error message. Other times on
>> both the Dell & Acer I can backup without getting and error message. There
>> does not seem to be a pattern to this.
>>
>> I have not tried Step 3.
>>
>> I would appreciate suggestions and advice on what is the cause of error 91
>> and what I can do to fix this problem. Please don't comment on how dumb I
>> am, I already have been told this. I have no one else to ask for help
>> other
>> than you folks or I would do so. Thank you for taking the time to read
>> this.
>>
>> Ann Parsons
>> Alamogordo, New Mexico, USA
>>
>>
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