from:"Barbara"

[LegacyUG] SPAM RE: SPAM Re: Re: Familysearch ID number

2022-05-14 Thread Barbara Lewis

Cathy, thank you for your help on this...the link below is good but one 
thing.when thes describe "family view" in customizing, they should write to 
click on CUSTOMIZE and then VIEW and then that is where the options are, 
including FS IDI wasn't clicking on View.

I'm all set now..thanks again!
Barbara

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Cathy Pinner
Sent: Friday, May 13, 2022 10:53 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: [LegacyUG] ***SPAM*** Re: Re: Familysearch ID number

Barbara,
If you want the FS ID on FamilyView then you need to customise the labels.
Here's how: 
<https://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2019/12/tuesdays-tip-customize-the-family-view-beginner.html>
I have several sets of labels for FV depending on what I'm doing. I usually 
combine birth and baptism on one line and death and burial on one line.
Another way of finding these people is to open Legacy FamilySearch and look for 
the Red links. You can filter by Red links Here's how they work:
<https://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2020/01/familysearch-filter.html>
Also make sure the FS arrows are working for you. Then a red arrow indicates a 
change. You can turn them all green in Legacy FamilySearch module using the 
Update Matches button OR individually by clicking the I have finished sharing 
button. You can click this whether you've shared anything or not.
Cathy
> Jenny M Benson <mailto:ge...@cedarbank.me.uk> Saturday, 14 May 2022 
> 05:42
>
>
> It's not on the Family View, it's at the foot of the Individual's 
> Information page, along with UserID, Ancestral File Number and 
> FindAGrave ID.
>
> Barbara Lewis <mailto:lassiej...@outlook.com> Saturday, 14 May 2022 
> 05:11
>
> I can’t find where the FS  ID number is shown on the family view of 
> Legacy.  Sometimes when a person is deleted from FS the ID doesn’t 
> match up with the one found in Legacy, but now I can’t find where that 
> ID is found in Legacy??
>
> Barbara
>
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[LegacyUG] Familysearch ID number

2022-05-13 Thread Barbara Lewis

I can’t find where the FS  ID number is shown on the family view of Legacy.  
Sometimes when a person is deleted from FS the ID doesn’t match up with the one 
found in Legacy, but now I can’t find where that ID is found in Legacy??

Barbara

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Re: [LegacyUG] moving info from one file to another

2022-01-10 Thread Barbara Lewis

Thank you Cathy. I got the split screen and I knew it was a drag-and-drop but 
it didn't work for me. But I could take the head person and drag it over and 
start a brand-new family with it. I couldn't cover up the same file on the 
other side. Anyway I found a way to work it but I'll try to again how you 
described it. I always appreciate your help
Barbara

From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Cathy Pinner
Sent: Sunday, January 9, 2022 5:16 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] moving info from one file to another

You are using Split Screen View? You drag and drop one of the family to the 
other file. After you drop you get a dialogue box that asks whether you just 
want to copy that person or their family or branch etc. If you don't get the 
dialogue drag and drop again but drop to a different part of the screen.

Cathy

Barbara Lewis wrote:


After I bring up two different files and want to move a new family on
one file to the other, can someone remind me what I do next?  I
haven’t done this is a long time?  Thank you

Barbara

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[LegacyUG] moving info from one file to another

2022-01-09 Thread Barbara Lewis

After I bring up two different files and want to move a new family on one file 
to the other, can someone remind me what I do next?  I haven't done this is a 
long time?  Thank you
Barbara
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Re: [LegacyUG] Problems with Backup

2021-08-20 Thread Barbara Lewis

Thank you so much for these links!

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Cathy Pinner
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 7:32 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Problems with Backup

Cindy,
Here are the Support articles on your errors.

http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00261/11/Error-Messages-Problems/Error-503-Backup-problem.html

http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00271/11/Error-Messages-Problems/Error-508-Cannot-move-temporary-file-to-target-zip-file.html

It's a bit strange to get either of these if you are backing up to your 
computer hard drive as you indicate.
The default location for backups is ...\Documents\Legacy Family Tree\Data\ 
folder but that's because it's a folder Legacy created so knows about. You 
should backup to an external drive or to a folder that syncs to the cloud - 
like a Dropbox folder or Google Drive or OneDrive.

To use the backup data zip, you don't unzip it yourself. You use File > Restore 
File in Legacy and it does the unzipping as part of the process.

Cathy



> Cindy Custer  Wednesday, 18 August 2021 
> 05:08
>
> For some reason, my backups have stopped working. When I try to backup 
> I receive either a 503 or a 508 error message
>
> telling me that the system cannot Access the .zip files.  I have my 
> backup locations set as C:User\/myname/\Documents\Legacy
>
> Family Tree\Data\/database name\/8-17-2021-2021-8-17 4.51.27 PM.zip 
> AND C:User\/myname/\Documents\Legacy
>
> Family Tree\Data\/database name\/8-17-2021-2021-8-17 4.51.27 
> PM-media.zip
>
> I opened the last file that I saved to my USB flash drive (K:) to try 
> and backup on my C: drive.  The latest backup (zip) files showing
>
> In my C: drive are dated 8-11-2021.
>
> I tried to do a restore from the unzipped K: drive, but the unzipped 
> files don’t show when I use the Restore icon in Legacy software.
>
> I obviously don’t understand how the files are relating to each other. 
> What should I do now?
>
> Basically I want to get the unzipped file from my K: USB flash drive 
> resident onto my C: Legacy 9 software so that I can create a
>
> Zipped backup file and be able to proceed backing up future changes. I 
> have 1057 individual names in my database. I am using
>
> Legacy 9 version 9.0.0.182 and I am running Microsoft 10 Pro 64bit 
> version 2004 (May 2020 update)
>
> custerc...@comcast.net 
>
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>
>
>
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Problems with Backup

2021-08-18 Thread Barbara Lewis

Cathy, thank you so much for teaching me that which I used to know but have 
forgotten.  Years ago a person I will say was my mentor in all this taught me 
about the "Save As"  and that is what I have done ever since and it has worked 
for me, by simply renaming my file with the same name and adding the current 
date.  I have about 8 different Legacy files and this has worked, but I 
understand what you are saying.   Now I can't fix this file with the error,  
and it is too large to send to support, as they have offered to fix it for me 
if I can do that. 

Support also sent me a link to an  online program to use to send large files, 
but I am in my 80s and have a struggle with reading all that I would have to do 
to   understand to proceed, like  an "old dog" who doesn't want to learn new 
tricks.

Thank you again for taking the time to teach me the right way.  I think I will 
take one of my smaller files to go back and relearn how to back up and in the 
meantime, I will not use the file that doesn't work and go back to the same 
file that I used at an earlier day.  I may have lost recent information that I 
put into the recent one, but I think that's OK this time.

Barbara 


-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Cathy Pinner
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 9:01 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Problems with Backup

Cindy,
You can't expect the Restore a backup feature to work when you don't use the 
Backup feature.

What file are you saving to your external drives and how? If you are 
overwriting your previous saved file on those drives, then you only have one 
generation of a type of backup. You should have at least 10 of your data 
backups though many of us keep some going back months and years.

If you are only copying over the .fdb, it's not a full 
backup of your family file which is made up of a number of different files - 
though it will have all the data.

Use the backup process. File > Backup File OR Backup on exit at least for your 
data. I don't use the Legacy Media Backup routine as I back that up with the 
rest of my computer data. Also I keep it in Dropbox so there's already a copy 
off my computer as well as on it in the Dropbox folder.

Cathy
> Cindy Custer <mailto:custerc...@comcast.net> Wednesday, 18 August 2021 
> 10:48 Every time I update anything, I save a file (not zipped) to a 
> USB flash drive AND I also save it (not zipped) to an external 1TB 
> Western Digital storage drive.
>
> However, when I try to restore my C: drive Legacy database 
> (...\Documents\Legacy Family Tree\Data\...) using either one of those 
> it doesn't work because the Restore File function is apparently only 
> looking for zipped files.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: LegacyUserGroup  On 
> Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2021 9:32 PM
> To: Legacy User Group 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Problems with Backup
>
> Cindy,
> Here are the Support articles on your errors.
>
> http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00261/11/Error-Messages
> -Problems/Error-503-Backup-problem.html
>
> http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00271/11/Error-Messages
> -Problems/Error-508-Cannot-move-temporary-file-to-target-zip-file.html
>
> It's a bit strange to get either of these if you are backing up to 
> your computer hard drive as you indicate.
> The default location for backups is ...\Documents\Legacy Family 
> Tree\Data\ folder but that's because it's a folder Legacy created so 
> knows about. You should backup to an external drive or to a folder 
> that syncs to the cloud - like a Dropbox folder or Google Drive or 
> OneDrive.
>
> To use the backup data zip, you don't unzip it yourself. You use File
> > Restore File in Legacy and it does the unzipping as part of the process.
>
> Cathy
>
>
>
>
>
> Cathy Pinner <mailto:genea...@gmail.com> Wednesday, 18 August 2021 
> 09:32 Cindy, Here are the Support articles on your errors.
>
> http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00261/11/Error-Messages
> -Problems/Error-503-Backup-problem.html
>
>
> http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00271/11/Error-Messages
> -Problems/Error-508-Cannot-move-temporary-file-to-target-zip-file.html
>
>
> It's a bit strange to get either of these if you are backing up to 
> your computer hard drive as you indicate.
> The default location for backups is ...\Documents\Legacy Family 
> Tree\Data\ folder but that's because it's a folder Legacy created so 
> knows about. You should backup to an external drive or to a folder 
> that syncs to the cloud - like a Dropbox folder or Google Drive or 
> OneDrive.
>
> To use the backup data zip, you don't unzip it yourself. You use File
> > Restore File in Legacy and it does the unzipping as

[LegacyUG] Restoring from a back up

2021-08-17 Thread Barbara Lewis


I have a file that brings up “Error”   I wrote to support and they told me to 
restore it from a backup.  Would you believe I’ve been in the program for 15 
years and always so a “save as” creating a new file and haven’t done a 
“restore” in years.  Don’t remember how.  Can anyone help me? Is a backup just 
another copy of the same file? That’s how dumb I feel right now, and I use this 
file everyday?

Barbara Lewis
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[LegacyUG] Reports in Color

2021-07-19 Thread Barbara Schwarting

Help would be greatly appreciated.  I can't get a Pedigree Chart Report 
to print in color.  I've done it in the past, by accident -- that is not 
happening this time.  I hope to add it to a book I'm writing about 
myself and family to give to my grandchildren.









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Re: [LegacyUG] question about Legacy and FamilySearch

2021-07-01 Thread Barbara Lewis

Thank you Jon, that will teach me to read all these messages!
Barbara

From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of J M
Sent: Thursday, July 1, 2021 6:19 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] question about Legacy and FamilySearch

I asked the same question about a month ago and learned that it a software 
issue the legacy tech support is aware of but they have no fix for the problem 
yet.

Wish they would fix it too.

Cheers, Jon

(Sent from a mobile device)

On Thu, Jul 1, 2021, 5:00 PM Barbara Lewis 
mailto:lassiej...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Does Legacy no longer connect to Familysearch to share the info back and forth? 
 I haven’t been able to add children from my Legacy into FamilySearch...and I 
have the latest update.
Barbara
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[LegacyUG] question about Legacy and FamilySearch

2021-07-01 Thread Barbara Lewis

Does Legacy no longer connect to Familysearch to share the info back and forth? 
 I haven't been able to add children from my Legacy into FamilySearch...and I 
have the latest update.
Barbara
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Re: [LegacyUG] need help with text size, please

2020-10-28 Thread Barbara Lewis

Thank you for you help with this...indeed I got someone to help me with this 
and it works greatThank you Brian and others who have responded!
Barb

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Brian Kelly
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 3:04 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] need help with text size, please

I do not think there is a way to change the font size in the Legacy Family 
Search (LFS) window. I looked for a font size setting in the Options without 
success and when I tried to change the size of the LFS window the text on the 
screen stayed the same size no matter how small or how large I made the window.

If you have Windows 10 it has a "Magnifier" included in its features for those 
with vision problems. The item can be found in the "Ease of Access" section in 
Windows settings. When activated the Magnifier creates an area of your screen 
which magnifies everything behind it, much like looking through a magnifying 
glass.

Brian Kelly

On 27-Oct.-20 4:37 p.m., Barbara Lewis wrote:
> I am still desperate to get help on how to make the text size on the 
> Familysearch option larger.  When I click on the familysearch link I 
> can hardly see the name, and yet the rest of the program is fine.
> 
> I have Windows 19 and the latest build of Legacy.
> 
> Barbara
> 
> 

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[LegacyUG] need help with text size, please

2020-10-27 Thread Barbara Lewis

I am still desperate to get help on how to make the text size on the 
Familysearch option larger.  When I click on the familysearch link I can hardly 
see the name, and yet the rest of the program is fine.

I have Windows 19 and the latest build of Legacy.

Barbara
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Re: [LegacyUG] LDS ordinances not shown

2020-04-10 Thread Barbara Lewis

Cathy, I need to make my Text larger in my 9.0 Legay  and it may be a Windows 
thing, but I've gone through all the options and views and can't a place to 
change it...can you help me?

Barbara  Lewis

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Cathy Pinner
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 8:20 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] LDS ordinances not shown

Barbara,
Have you updated to the latest build of Legacy. One of the reasons for the 
timing was that FamilySearch were making a change to the API and the new build 
has the necessary changes.
Cathy

> Barbara Lewis <mailto:lassiej...@outlook.com> Wednesday, 6 November 
> 2019 11:14 PM
>
> When I click on the Toolbar/Familysearchthe white tree icon, and 
> bring up the 2 sides, LDS ordinances don’t show on either side.and 
> yet the ordinances show up in the rest of my files...all of them. Is 
> there something that I didn’t choose in options?
>
> Barbara L
>
>
>


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Re: [LegacyUG] LDS ordinances not shown

2019-11-06 Thread Barbara Lewis

Thank you also Brian...all is well now!  All of you are great!

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Brian Kelly
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 3:35 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] LDS ordinances not shown

You mention that you have many files but the display of LDS data is a 
Family file Specific option. Go to Options > Customize > General and 
make sure that the 1.9 display of LDS data is turned on in the file 
where they are not showing.

Also, as Cathy pointed out, you need to update to the latest build 
9.0.0.332 because of changes made by FamilySearch to the way Legacy 
interfaces with the FamilySearch website.

Brian Kelly

On 06-Nov.-19 10:14 a.m., Barbara Lewis wrote:
> When I click on the Toolbar/Familysearchthe white tree icon, and 
> bring up the 2 sides, LDS ordinances don’t show on either side.and 
> yet the ordinances show up in the rest of my files...all of them. Is 
> there something that I didn’t choose in options?
> 
> Barbara L
> 
> 

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Re: [LegacyUG] LDS ordinances not shown

2019-11-06 Thread Barbara Lewis

That did it!  Thank you!

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Cathy Pinner
Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 8:20 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] LDS ordinances not shown

Barbara,
Have you updated to the latest build of Legacy. One of the reasons for 
the timing was that FamilySearch were making a change to the API and the 
new build has the necessary changes.
Cathy

> Barbara Lewis <mailto:lassiej...@outlook.com>
> Wednesday, 6 November 2019 11:14 PM
>
> When I click on the Toolbar/Familysearchthe white tree icon, and 
> bring up the 2 sides, LDS ordinances don’t show on either side.and 
> yet the ordinances show up in the rest of my files...all of them. Is 
> there something that I didn’t choose in options?
>
> Barbara L
>
>
>


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[LegacyUG] LDS ordinances not shown

2019-11-06 Thread Barbara Lewis

When I click on the Toolbar/Familysearchthe white tree icon, and bring up 
the 2 sides, LDS ordinances don't show on either side.and yet the 
ordinances show up in the rest of my files...all of them.  Is there something 
that I didn't choose in options?

Barbara L
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[LegacyUG] siblings become spouses when printing a family group sheet

2019-01-09 Thread Barbara Schwarting via LegacyUserGroup

I have not seen this problem in the past. When I print a family group 
sheet for a family the 2nd, 4th and 6th children become the spouses of 
the 1st, 3rd and 5th children.  Can someone help me - I would surely 
appreciate it.


1.  Siblings are clearly listed as children of a husband and wife on a 
family group sheet.


2. When I press "print" and then  "preview" the 2nd, 4th and 6th 
children show as spouses.


3. If I go back and attempt to make a change in the original record - I 
receive a message "that they are children of their parents.


Thus, it seems that it is something between the input and the printer.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Can't get into LDS tools with new password

2018-07-07 Thread Barbara Lewis

I was able to solve my problem, thank you.

From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Barbara Lewis
Sent: Saturday, July 7, 2018 2:37 PM
To: Legacy User Group (legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com) 

Subject: [LegacyUG] Can't get into LDS tools with new password

I just sent the message below to this group but I don't get a copy back to me; 
it may be the LUG bounces-group? I see both addresses on the messages I get 
from the group.  I'm confused...but I need to post this query below:

I few hours ago I changed my LDS password.  In getting into my Legacy program 
(latest update) it won't let me use the LDS tools.
Someone please advise.

Barbara

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[LegacyUG] Can't get into LDS tools with new password

2018-07-07 Thread Barbara Lewis

I just sent the message below to this group but I don't get a copy back to me; 
it may be the LUG bounces-group? I see both addresses on the messages I get 
from the group.  I'm confused...but I need to post this query below:

I few hours ago I changed my LDS password.  In getting into my Legacy program 
(latest update) it won't let me use the LDS tools.
Someone please advise.

Barbara

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Re: [LegacyUG] Announcement from the staff Part II

2018-06-12 Thread Barbara Lewis

Thank you..so it's OK for me to download the .226 for general use?
Barbara

From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Michele Lewis
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 11:17 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Announcement from the staff Part II

It doesn't matter which build of Legacy you are using. There error is coming 
from the link between the Legacy News and Legacy itself.


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 On Behalf Of Barbara Lewis
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To: Legacy User Group 
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I haven't downloaded the .226 yet.should I wait?  Is this the version that 
is having problems that Michelle is referring to?
Barbara

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Re: [LegacyUG] Announcement from the staff Part II

2018-06-12 Thread Barbara Lewis

I haven't downloaded the .226 yet.should I wait?  Is this the version that 
is having problems that Michelle is referring to?
Barbara

From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
Michele Lewis
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 11:10 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Announcement from the staff Part II

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Re: [LegacyUG] IS this group receiving my messages?

2018-02-20 Thread Barbara Lewis

Thank you for responding!  Now I know

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Holly Nelson
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 6:19 PM
To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] IS this group receiving my messages?

Got it!
Sent from my iPad

On Feb 20, 2018, at 6:49 PM, Barbara Lewis 
<lassiej...@outlook.com<mailto:lassiej...@outlook.com>> wrote:
I’m trying to figure out if I send a query to this list, do I get a copy of it 
back?  Or do my messages go out at all?  Would someone respond to me so I know 
if my messages go out.  I get all the incoming messages.

Thank you so much
Barbara L.
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[LegacyUG] IS this group receiving my messages?

2018-02-20 Thread Barbara Lewis

I'm trying to figure out if I send a query to this list, do I get a copy of it 
back?  Or do my messages go out at all?  Would someone respond to me so I know 
if my messages go out.  I get all the incoming messages.

Thank you so much
Barbara L.
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Re: [LegacyUG] duplicates

2017-12-11 Thread Barbara Lewis

THANK YOU.giving me instructions on this process..I'm OK and 
understand it now.
I appreciate your help!
Barbara L.

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Michele/Support
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 7:32 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group' <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] duplicates

I will send you a screenshot straight to you.  We try to avoid attachments on 
the list.

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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Barbara Lewis
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 9:17 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
<legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com<mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] duplicates

I'm sorry but I just don't see any Print command that you mention...I've gone 
over and over this and all I bring up is a page of merge options... I went to 
the first 3 steps below but I don't understand the rest of what you write 
here...I really need to see a list and it used to be so easy to find.
Barbara L.

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Michele/Support
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 6:56 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group' 
<legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com<mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] duplicates

Yes you can :)

Go to Tools > Merge Duplicates > Find Duplicates. The Print command is on this 
screen BEFORE you click Continue to actually see the duplicates.


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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Barbara Lewis
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 8:37 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
<legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com<mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>>
Subject: [LegacyUG] duplicates

Can I bring up a list of duplicates in my file?just to see the duplicates.  
I know how to merge.
Barbara L
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Re: [LegacyUG] duplicates

2017-12-11 Thread Barbara Lewis

I'm sorry but I just don't see any Print command that you mention...I've gone 
over and over this and all I bring up is a page of merge options... I went to 
the first 3 steps below but I don't understand the rest of what you write 
here...I really need to see a list and it used to be so easy to find.
Barbara L.

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Michele/Support
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 6:56 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group' <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] duplicates

Yes you can :)

Go to Tools > Merge Duplicates > Find Duplicates. The Print command is on this 
screen BEFORE you click Continue to actually see the duplicates.

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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Barbara Lewis
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 8:37 AM
To: Legacy User Group 
<legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com<mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>>
Subject: [LegacyUG] duplicates

Can I bring up a list of duplicates in my file?just to see the duplicates.  
I know how to merge.
Barbara L
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[LegacyUG] duplicates

2017-12-11 Thread Barbara Lewis

Can I bring up a list of duplicates in my file?just to see the duplicates.  
I know how to merge.
Barbara L
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Re: [LegacyUG] familysearch options

2017-12-03 Thread Barbara Lewis

Thank you for all this information!

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Richard Young
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 8:12 PM
To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] familysearch options

You turn on FamilySearch integration at Options, Customize, Option1.8, and the 
information display at 1.9.

If you want the hints turned on for FamilySearch go to 8.13

Richard

On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 6:03 PM, Barbara Lewis 
<lassiej...@outlook.com<mailto:lassiej...@outlook.com>> wrote:
I just reinstalled Legacy 9 on a new computer. I can’t find where familysearch 
options are found.

Barbara L.

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[LegacyUG] familysearch options

2017-12-02 Thread Barbara Lewis

I just reinstalled Legacy 9 on a new computer. I can't find where familysearch 
options are found.

Barbara L.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Procedure for installing and using OneDrive to backup my Legacy media files?

2017-09-30 Thread Barbara

Thank you so much for the detailed instructions! I have followed them, and now 
have my backups in OneDrive.

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Leon Chapman
Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2017 6:15 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Procedure for installing and using OneDrive to backup 
my Legacy media files?

 

Here is an answer to basic backup.

 

1. In Legacy, go to File >Backup File

2. At bottom right, Click HELP >Show Help Topic. or watch a video.

 

This HELP completely talks about backups and the Legacy Cloud backup in 5 steps.

 

OneDrive Backup

1. In Legacy, go to File >Backup File

2. Select Backup to My Computer (Family File & Media Files)

3. Click CHANGE to far right of Family File

4. A windows file manger will open and you can then locate your OneDrive folder 
(e.g:  \OneDrive\Legacy Backups\ ) and save the Legacy Backupup files in that 
folder.  If you also have the Media Files selected for backup, Legacy asks if 
you want to change the Media backup location to the same as Family File and the 
answer would be YES.  Note:  I would suggest you create the \OneDrive\Legacy 
Backups\ folder before starting steps 1-4 above - see step 3 below.

 

Questions about OneDrive:

1.  Do I have OneDrive on my system?

 A.  Yes, If you have Windows 8.1 or 10, it was automatically installed

 B.  Yes, if you have Office 360 installed

 

2. How can I see if OneDrive is installed?

 A.  You can use the Windows File manager (the yellow folder icon at bottom 
in task bar) - Click on it, you should see in the left side window a folder 
called OneDrive and maybe a few subfolders if you have created any.

 

3.  How do I create a new subfolder under OneDrive called:  \OneDrive\Legacy 
Backups\ ?

 A. You can use the Windows File manager (the yellow folder icon at bottom 
in task bar) - Click on it, you should see in the left side window a folder 
called OneDrive

 B. Right Click on OneDrive >New >Folder

 C. Type the new folder name as:  Legacy Backup

 D. Hit return.   You should see the new folder under OneDrive in your 
screen on left side.

 

4.  What if I don't have a OneDrive Subfolder or OneDrive is not installed?

 A.  You will need to download OneDrive from Microsoft and create an 
account.

 B.  Here is the link to do that:

 

https://onedrive.live.com/about/en-gb/support/ 

 



Enjoy!

Leon Chapman

 




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On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 12:21 PM, Roxanne Cummings-Basey  > wrote:

I don't understand the question. Do you want to backup up a restore file that 
includes the media files inside the legacy file so that when you restore it the 
media files are included? If so that is what I would like to know.

But - - - - would this be creating the same type of backup as you get when you 
back up to the Legacy cloud WITHOUT the media files? Or would you be backing up 
a gedcom file to onedrive.

So let me rephrase:

Can you and if so how do you:

1. Backup your legacy files so that all the media files are included.

2. How would you restore that backup from onedrive instead of from the legacy 
cloud and is this possible?

Roxanne

 

On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 8:10 AM, J.M. "Jay" Ingalls  > wrote:

Can someone find a detailed, step by step, procedure for installing and using 
OneDrive to backup my Legacy media files? That means leaving the media files 
where they are, not putting them in OneDrive. No extra words, just "Step 1, 
Step 2", etc.

Jay Ingalls

 

On 9/29/2017 4:14 PM, Ian Thomas wrote:

Millennia (Legacy) would have omitted backup of media files because they are 
large, and some users may have hundreds of Mb up to GB of storage requirements 
for their media files. 

 

But everyone has Windows – any version has the free gift from Microsoft of 
OneDrive – which is a more than adequate amount of cloud storage. 

 

While it does require a step-by-step ‘recipe’ for users to set the Legacy FT 
backup location to other than the defaults, over the past year I have seen 
instructions here on how to change to the location of choice for any 
individual. That has included Dropbox (another ‘cloud’ location).

 

Regards, Ian

 


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Re: [LegacyUG] Temple tab

2017-07-22 Thread Barbara Lewis

Thank you for the encouragement that this Tab will be back .  I appreciate your 
response.



B. Lewis



From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 10:14 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Temple tab



Yes, when FamilySearch have finished their current set of changes, Legacy 
FamilySearch will be updated again in both Legacy 8 and 9 and it will come 
back. Currently I understand you are being directed to the FamilySearch 
website. That will likely be the last update for it in Legacy 8.

Legacy puts a high priority on keeping the Legacy FamilySearch module working 
as well as possible. FamilySearch keep changing things which makes that 
difficult. Occasionally they give warning but not always.

Cathy

Barbara Lewis wrote:




Can someone tell me if the Temple tab that we had on the 8, the one
that showed the totals for each kind of ordinance and reservation and
completion status, will be put back on the new 9? I really need that
feature!

Barbara L.


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[LegacyUG] Temple tab

2017-07-21 Thread Barbara Lewis

Can someone tell me if the Temple tab that we had on the 8, the one that
showed the totals for each kind of ordinance and reservation and completion
status, will be put back on the new 9?  I really need that feature!

 

Barbara L.



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[LegacyUG] Windows 10 and Legacy 6

2017-07-14 Thread Barbara Ford

I have a new computer with Windows 10, and I will go to Legacy and download the 
old version. My question is this: On my Windows 7, the Legacy folder resided 
directly on the C drive. I always copy and save that folder, backed up to an 
external drive. After I download and install Legacy 6 on the Windows 10 
computer, where should I "place" the Legacy folder? Still directly on C?

Thanks,
Barbara Ford
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Re: [LegacyUG] Invalid date format

2017-06-30 Thread Barbara Lewis

I figured it was a bug..I also checked my dates and all was good.  Thank
you for sharing that.

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Behalf Of Keith Drury Myers
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2017 12:10 AM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Invalid date format

Hi Barbara,

It's a known bug in build 189.
I reported it and has been told it has been fixed but the build with the fix
has not been released yet! :-(

This is giving me grief as I'm currently trying to sync my tree with family
search.

I keep on checking for a new build and am getting more and more frustrated.

Keith Drury Myers

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[LegacyUG] Invalid date format

2017-06-29 Thread Barbara Lewis

This past week I've been running into some dates on my Legacy that look like
this:
1869-05  and then showing on the "Task" screen, the Familysearch side:
Problem: invalid date format

Can someone tell me what that's all about?  This is just since I download
Legacy 9
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy and Windows 10

2017-06-26 Thread Barbara Lewis

I send reports back and forth to a friend and he said he couldn’t “paste” in 
Windows 10…..I just discovered this feature and I’m THRILLED with it, but I 
have windows 8 and have to change to 10 this fall.  So I was concerned and 
that’s why I wrote.  I’ll let him know about the “bugs.”

Thank you to the others who responded.  Barb L.



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Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 7:53 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy and Windows 10



Barbara
Are you talking about the new Legacy 9 feature in Report Options - Clipboard - 
text?

Yes it works in Windows 10.

However there are some known bugs for some reports.

Put in a bug report if you find bugs as they may not all be logged.

Cathy








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[LegacyUG] Legacy and Windows 10

2017-06-26 Thread Barbara Lewis

Can someone who has Windows 10 tell me if the “clipboard” feature in “reports” 
works on Windows 10?

Barb L.



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Re: [LegacyUG] FS question

2017-06-25 Thread Barbara Lewis

Thank you again for that explanation….I noticed this morning that I no long 
have the Findagrave icon on my tool bar. Can you tell me how to get that back?



Barb L.



From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 1:41 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FS question



Barb,

If you rely on this module, you would have had to change to Legacy 9 soon 
anyway. These updates are being done to the Legacy FamilySearch module in 
Legacy 8 and 9 but no other changes are being made to Legacy 8 and we - Testers 
and Support - weren't expecting Legacy FamilySearch in 8 to be updated again. I 
understand that it's only because Legacy 9 hasn't been out long that the update 
has been done in both this time.
Legacy FamilySearch in 8 will stop working and not be updated just as it did 
for Legacy 7.5.

When FamilySearch change things that break the connection, other programs have 
to respond. Sometimes they give warning and most times they don't. Also it's 
not always easy to foresee what will be broken by a change.

Cathy

Barbara Lewis wrote:









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Re: [LegacyUG] FS question

2017-06-25 Thread Barbara Lewis

Thank you Cathy…yes, that must be the one you described….it disappeared when I 
was using 8 and when I wrote support they said I would have to be in 9 to get 
the latest “fixes”  so it looks like I could have stayed in 8. I really miss 
that feature and I hope we get it back.

Barb







From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 12:54 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FS question



Yes, that redirect is due to the changes that are happening at FamilySearch.

"Legacy FamilySearch Module" I think that is where you are missing the Temple 
tab? the Title bar of the screen is Legacy FamilySearch.
I call it a module as once opened you can use Legacy at the same time as that 
screen.

Note it's not the update to Legacy 9 that has done this. It's exactly the same 
at the moment in Legacy 8.

Cathy

Barbara Lewis wrote:




Cathy, thank you for your response. I have the recent 9 version but
what is the FamilySearch module?   I am missing the Temple tab that
keeps track or ordinances that I had in 8.  Now the Temple tab just
takes us back into the Temple tab in FamilySearch.  Does anyone know
if they are planning to bring that back?

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*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] FS question

Barbara
If it relates to Legacy and FamilySearch you can ask it here.

If you are using Legacy FamilySearch module, make sure you have
updated to the latest version of Legacy 8 (8.0.0.604) or Legacy 9
(9.0.0.189).

FamilySearch are currently making changes and there have been two
emergency updates and there will be another when things settle down
again at FamilySearch.

This may not relate to your questions.

Cathy

Barbara Lewis wrote:








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Re: [LegacyUG] FS question

2017-06-25 Thread Barbara Lewis

Cathy, thank you for your response. I have the recent 9 version but what is the 
FamilySearch module?   I am missing the Temple tab that keeps track or 
ordinances that I had in 8.  Now the Temple tab just takes us back into the 
Temple tab in FamilySearch.  Does anyone know if they are planning to bring 
that back?



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Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 10:29 PM
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] FS question



Barbara
If it relates to Legacy and FamilySearch you can ask it here.

If you are using Legacy FamilySearch module, make sure you have updated to the 
latest version of Legacy 8 (8.0.0.604) or Legacy 9 (9.0.0.189).

FamilySearch are currently making changes and there have been two emergency 
updates and there will be another when things settle down again at FamilySearch.

This may not relate to your questions.

Cathy

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[LegacyUG] FS question

2017-06-24 Thread Barbara Lewis

I haven't been on a user list in years..is there a separate user group list
for Familysearch questions, or can I ask it here?

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Big Question

2017-02-04 Thread Barbara Ford

Thanks!

> On Feb 4, 2017, at 6:35 PM, Frederick C Buss Jr. <fbus...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Barbara I started with old laptop. and had LegacyFIT 8 deluxe. and
> brought a new laptop HP with Windows 10. I was afraid I would be able
> to copy all my Legacy ft. to this new one and if you read some of
> geoff webinars there is some Info. that will help you such as Thumb-
> Drive and ther ways.to do this. Good Luck Frederick C. Buss Jr
> 
>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Barbara Ford <pastors...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Okay, I'm nervous about asking this, because the answer is sort of a big 
>> deal in my world! Seriously, please don't judge me, but I have to confess 
>> that I am still running Legacy 6 Deluxe (on Windows 7 Professional). That's 
>> right, I have not updated in all this time. It took me a long time to get 
>> comfortable with how Legacy works, and I simply didn't want to rock the 
>> boat, since it was working for me.
>> 
>> However, I am now trying to get all my ducks in a row for the possibility of 
>> a new laptop, and I'm fairly certain I will want/need the latest version of 
>> Legacy when I do that. So, I'm thinking I should go ahead now and update 
>> Legacy while I still have an operating system I understand, so that once I 
>> am forced to go to Windows 10 (by virtue of buying a new laptop), at least 
>> I'll already be comfortable with the Legacy 8 software. I believe I have 
>> read that Legacy 8 does work with Windows 7 (and I'm sure it is compatible 
>> with Windows 10 as well).
>> 
>> Bottom line question here: to avoid the group involvement in all my 
>> questions about this process, etc., is there someone who would be willing to 
>> answer my questions/walk me through some of this outside the group?
>> 
>> I have a few questions that I need to understand before I actually try the 
>> update.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Barb Ford
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Re: [LegacyUG] Big Question

2017-02-04 Thread Barbara Ford

Thank you, Chris.

> On Feb 4, 2017, at 2:06 PM, Chris Hill <chris.hill.11he...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Barbara
> 
> Having the files on the My Passport means that you do not need to download
> them again in the future. Obviously, you can always download the latest
> versions whenever you need them if they are missing.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Chris
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
> Behalf Of Barbara Ford
> Sent: 04 February 2017 16:38
> To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Big Question
> 
> Uh oh. I've already deleted folders I should not have. To be honest, the
> tech guy from WD told me I could delete the WD software if I wasn't using
> auto backup. But what you are saying makes sense. Do I understand you to say
> that, while I am able to access both my passport drives on my computer, even
> though I have deleted a lot of folders I should not have (it allowed me to
> delete some, but not all), if I try to use those two passport drives on a
> different computer, it might not work? Oh dear. Should I try to download the
> files from the WD site?
> 
>> On Feb 4, 2017, at 4:04 AM, Chris Hill <chris.hill.11he...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> 
>> My point is that you should not remove the install decks, manuals etc. 
>> for two reasons. Firstly they are small and secondly because if you 
>> need to connect to a PC without the device drivers the system will 
>> extract them from the My Passport install decks.
>> 
>> These are the settings from my My Passport.
>> 
>> Volume in drive J is My Passport
>> Volume Serial Number is 74B7-6DCC
>> Directory of J:\
>> 06/09/2012  17:48 4,223,936 WD Apps Setup.exe
>> 25/07/2013  01:30  Extras
>> 25/07/2013  01:30  Locale
>> 25/07/2013  01:30  My Passport Apps for Mac
>> 25/07/2013  01:30  WD User Manuals
>> 25/07/2013  01:30  WD Apps for Windows
>> 10/09/2014  11:52  Backups
>> 14/04/2015  12:07  temp
>> 08/10/2016  10:13  GTX Drivers
>>  1 File(s)  4,223,936 bytes
>>  8 Dir(s)  1,465,986,134,016 bytes free
>> 
>> WD Apps Setup.exe and folders Extras, Locale, My Passport Apps for 
>> Mac, WD User Manuals and WD Apps for Windows are files and folders 
>> that you should never delete, and are very, very small (245MB).
>> 
>> Anything else there should be yours, unless you do use WD software to 
>> make backups there for you. In my case I use ViceVersa to put backups 
>> into the Backups folder.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] 
>> On Behalf Of Barbara Ford
>> Sent: 03 February 2017 22:20
>> To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Big Question
>> 
>> Oh, wow, good information. If I may ask further, then...my 
>> understanding was that if I did not intend to use the Western Digital 
>> software for automatic backups (which I do NOT), and I only wanted to 
>> use the WD passport drive simply as an external hard drive, that I 
>> would not need the WD software that is on the passport drive. I was 
>> wrong on that?? (I wasn't worried so much about space taken as about 
>> trying to remember what the heck all those folders were about).
>> 
>>> On Feb 3, 2017, at 1:46 PM, Chris Hill <chris.hill.11he...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I would be very careful about wanting to remove a folder, created by 
>>> WD, on a My Passport. These files include the software installs to 
>>> enable Windows and Mac to access the rest of the device. On my 2TB 
>>> drive they are using 241MB, about .01% of it. Otherwise, they are 
>>> because you are using the device as a backup to your PC.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: LegacyUserGroup 
>>> [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com]
>>> On Behalf Of Barbara Ford
>>> Sent: 03 February 2017 14:40
>>> To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Big Question
>>> 
>>> Now that makes perfect sense. I'm flagging this note to perhaps save 
>>> me some pain when I do a new install into Windows 10.
>>> 
>>> Agree about the admin thing--I currentl

Re: [LegacyUG] Big Question

2017-02-04 Thread Barbara Ford

Uh oh. I've already deleted folders I should not have. To be honest, the tech 
guy from WD told me I could delete the WD software if I wasn't using auto 
backup. But what you are saying makes sense. Do I understand you to say that, 
while I am able to access both my passport drives on my computer, even though I 
have deleted a lot of folders I should not have (it allowed me to delete some, 
but not all), if I try to use those two passport drives on a different 
computer, it might not work? Oh dear. Should I try to download the files from 
the WD site?

> On Feb 4, 2017, at 4:04 AM, Chris Hill <chris.hill.11he...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> My point is that you should not remove the install decks, manuals etc. for
> two reasons. Firstly they are small and secondly because if you need to
> connect to a PC without the device drivers the system will extract them from
> the My Passport install decks.
> 
> These are the settings from my My Passport.
> 
> Volume in drive J is My Passport
> Volume Serial Number is 74B7-6DCC
> Directory of J:\
> 06/09/2012  17:48 4,223,936 WD Apps Setup.exe
> 25/07/2013  01:30  Extras
> 25/07/2013  01:30  Locale
> 25/07/2013  01:30  My Passport Apps for Mac
> 25/07/2013  01:30  WD User Manuals
> 25/07/2013  01:30  WD Apps for Windows
> 10/09/2014  11:52  Backups
> 14/04/2015  12:07  temp
> 08/10/2016  10:13  GTX Drivers
>   1 File(s)  4,223,936 bytes
>   8 Dir(s)  1,465,986,134,016 bytes free
> 
> WD Apps Setup.exe and folders Extras, Locale, My Passport Apps for Mac, WD
> User Manuals and WD Apps for Windows are files and folders that you should
> never delete, and are very, very small (245MB).
> 
> Anything else there should be yours, unless you do use WD software to make
> backups there for you. In my case I use ViceVersa to put backups into the
> Backups folder.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Chris 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
> Behalf Of Barbara Ford
> Sent: 03 February 2017 22:20
> To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Big Question
> 
> Oh, wow, good information. If I may ask further, then...my understanding was
> that if I did not intend to use the Western Digital software for automatic
> backups (which I do NOT), and I only wanted to use the WD passport drive
> simply as an external hard drive, that I would not need the WD software that
> is on the passport drive. I was wrong on that?? (I wasn't worried so much
> about space taken as about trying to remember what the heck all those
> folders were about). 
> 
>> On Feb 3, 2017, at 1:46 PM, Chris Hill <chris.hill.11he...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> 
>> I would be very careful about wanting to remove a folder, created by 
>> WD, on a My Passport. These files include the software installs to 
>> enable Windows and Mac to access the rest of the device. On my 2TB 
>> drive they are using 241MB, about .01% of it. Otherwise, they are 
>> because you are using the device as a backup to your PC.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] 
>> On Behalf Of Barbara Ford
>> Sent: 03 February 2017 14:40
>> To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Big Question
>> 
>> Now that makes perfect sense. I'm flagging this note to perhaps save 
>> me some pain when I do a new install into Windows 10.
>> 
>> Agree about the admin thing--I currently cannot get rid of a folder (a 
>> Western Digital folder) I do not want on an external hard drive, 
>> because it says I don't have administrative privileges. Enfuriating.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Barb
>> 
>>> On Feb 2, 2017, at 10:36 PM, Robert57P_gmail <robert...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> One problem you may have run into with Legacy 6 and Win7:  Windows 7
>> "protects" some of the folders that used to be open.  By default, the 
>> older Legacy versions (I forget when they changed it) used to install 
>> in some of these folders that are now "protected".
>>> 
>>> I got around this by overriding the Legacy install.  If you install 
>>> Legacy
>> 6 on Windows 10 (or Win8 or Win7), instead of accepting the normal 
>> "C:\PROGRAM FILES", instead tell Legacy to install into something like:
>> "C:\winprog\legacy".  Since you are creating that "winprog" folder, 
&

Re: [LegacyUG] Big Question

2017-02-03 Thread Barbara Ford

Good thoughts for consideration. I did purchase, and have regularly used, the 
charting program that was sold outside of Legacy 6. By default, where is the 
data stored in Legacy 8?

> On Feb 3, 2017, at 7:23 PM, Cathy Pinner <genea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Barbara,
> 
> No version of Legacy embeds media in the data file. It would make the data 
> file huge, just for a start.
> Note FTM used to embed media in their data file but more recent versions 
> don't.
> I don't know of any other genealogy program that embeds the media in the data 
> file.
> 
> You can stay with Legacy 6 if you want to. It will work on Windows 10 
> provided you install it outside of the Program Files folders.
> 
> However, do consider upgrading. You are missing out on heaps of features 
> Charting, Mapping, enhanced Potential Problem checking - and they're just new 
> features from Legacy 7.
> 
> The real learning curve between Legacy 8 and earlier versions of Legacy is 
> the change in the default place to keep your data files and the default place 
> for Media files.
> People who understand folder structure on a computer have no problem with 
> that. People who don't understand have had some problems switching over.
> 
> Legacy 8 has many more Media handling tools which are much easier to use than 
> the ones in earlier versions.
> 
> Legacy 9 on the surface will look and feel like Legacy 8. It's bringing some 
> great new features though.
> 
> Cathy
> 
>> Barbara Ford <mailto:pastors...@gmail.com>
>> Saturday, 4 February 2017 6:16 AM
>> Okay, got it. I think I may at least try keeping 6, if it will work on 
>> Windows 10, and I'm very much "on" to keeping it in the directories as you 
>> mention here, Steve. So, I'll do that on the new computer and at last try 
>> it, with not upgrading after all. My two issues (will 6 work on Windows 10, 
>> and does the later version allow embedded photos) have been answered in such 
>> a way that I believe I can stick with 6.
>> Thanks,
>> Barb
>> 
>> 
>> Steve Hayes <mailto:hayes...@telkomsa.net>
>> Friday, 3 February 2017 11:13 PM
>> 
>> No, it is the NEW Legacy version (8 and above) that by default installs
>> itself into protected folders.
>> 
>> I still have Legacy 7.5 on my computer, and it is installed in
>> 
>> E:\Legacy\
>> 
>> with the data files in
>> 
>> E:\Legacy\Data
>> 
>> and pictures in
>> 
>> E:\Legacy\pictures
>> 
>> I routinely copied these backwards and forwards between my desktop computer
>> (running Windows XP) and my laptop computer (running Windows 7) with no
>> problems, just a simple batch file did it.
>> 
>> Legacy 8, by default, installs itself inder
>> 
>> C:\Program Files\
>> 
>> which IS a directory protected by Windows, and doesn't allow data files to be
>> kept under it (as the older versions of Legacy did), so it keeps data files
>> under the My Documents folder,.wherever that may be.
>> 
>> I set up Legacy 8 differently, to install its program files into
>> 
>> E:\Legacy8
>> 
>> and its data files in
>> 
>> E:\Leg8Data
>> 
>> That makes it easier for me to copy the data files to a USB flash drive to
>> transfer to my Laptop. And those directories, like the ones created by older
>> version of Legacy, are not protected by Windows. But the \Program Files\ one
>> is.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Robert57P_gmail <mailto:robert...@gmail.com>
>> Friday, 3 February 2017 12:36 PM
>> One problem you may have run into with Legacy 6 and Win7:  Windows 7 
>> "protects" some of the folders that used to be open.  By default, the older 
>> Legacy versions (I forget when they changed it) used to install in some of 
>> these folders that are now "protected".
>> 
>> I got around this by overriding the Legacy install.  If you install Legacy 6 
>> on Windows 10 (or Win8 or Win7), instead of accepting the normal "C:\PROGRAM 
>> FILES", instead tell Legacy to install into something like:  
>> "C:\winprog\legacy".  Since you are creating that "winprog" folder, windows 
>> has no rules about it and won't protect it.  So the older programs should 
>> run fine out of that location.
>> 
>> I have a C:\winprog, and C:\wingame, and a C:\winutil - I install any "old 
>> style" programs in those folders instead of in "C:\PROGRAM FILES" and it 
>> works pretty good.  And I store data from "old style" programs into 
>> C:\windata.  As much as I appre

Re: [LegacyUG] Big Question

2017-02-03 Thread Barbara Ford

Oh, wow, good information. If I may ask further, then...my understanding was 
that if I did not intend to use the Western Digital software for automatic 
backups (which I do NOT), and I only wanted to use the WD passport drive simply 
as an external hard drive, that I would not need the WD software that is on the 
passport drive. I was wrong on that?? (I wasn't worried so much about space 
taken as about trying to remember what the heck all those folders were about). 

> On Feb 3, 2017, at 1:46 PM, Chris Hill <chris.hill.11he...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I would be very careful about wanting to remove a folder, created by WD, on
> a My Passport. These files include the software installs to enable Windows
> and Mac to access the rest of the device. On my 2TB drive they are using
> 241MB, about .01% of it. Otherwise, they are because you are using the
> device as a backup to your PC.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Chris
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
> Behalf Of Barbara Ford
> Sent: 03 February 2017 14:40
> To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Big Question
> 
> Now that makes perfect sense. I'm flagging this note to perhaps save me some
> pain when I do a new install into Windows 10.
> 
> Agree about the admin thing--I currently cannot get rid of a folder (a
> Western Digital folder) I do not want on an external hard drive, because it
> says I don't have administrative privileges. Enfuriating.
> 
> Thanks,
> Barb
> 
>> On Feb 2, 2017, at 10:36 PM, Robert57P_gmail <robert...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> One problem you may have run into with Legacy 6 and Win7:  Windows 7
> "protects" some of the folders that used to be open.  By default, the older
> Legacy versions (I forget when they changed it) used to install in some of
> these folders that are now "protected".
>> 
>> I got around this by overriding the Legacy install.  If you install Legacy
> 6 on Windows 10 (or Win8 or Win7), instead of accepting the normal
> "C:\PROGRAM FILES", instead tell Legacy to install into something like:
> "C:\winprog\legacy".  Since you are creating that "winprog" folder, windows
> has no rules about it and won't protect it.  So the older programs should
> run fine out of that location.
>> 
>> I have a C:\winprog, and C:\wingame, and a C:\winutil - I install any "old
> style" programs in those folders instead of in "C:\PROGRAM FILES" and it
> works pretty good.  And I store data from "old style" programs into
> C:\windata.  As much as I appreciate Microsoft "trying to protect us from
> ourselves", I don't like being told "you don't have permission to mess in
> folder xyz"!!!  I'm the administrator of this computer, darn it - I can do
> (or should be able to do) whatever I want where ever I want . . . as long as
> I understand the consequences.  Or, as a poster I once saw said:
>> "When my computer tells me I don't have admin privileges . . . Aren't we
> forgetting one teensy weensy but ever so critical little tiny detail?  I OWN
> YOU"
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>>> On 02/02/2017 14:16, Barb Ford wrote:
>>> Okay, thank you, James. My incorrect assumption that Legacy 6 would not
> play well with Windows 10 was based on this: When I started with Legacy 6, I
> used XP. A few years ago, I changed to Windows 7. At that time, my Legacy
> program simply would not open with the new operating system. I was able to
> utilize the help of someone from this group, at that time, who spent a lot
> of time off-group, even with a Skype session, helping me to get everything
> to work. It was my understanding that the problem was because of the
> operating system and that I should consider upgrading to a newer Legacy
> version if I encountered further problems. As I say, that was my
> understanding at the time; perhaps I misunderstood, or perhaps I was given
> incorrect or incomplete information. Either way, it has been in the back of
> my mind that when I changed operating systems again, I should be ready to
> upgrade to the latest Legacy version. I see now that I was laboring under a
> false assumption/conclusion.
>>> Thank you,
>>> Barbara
>>> 
>>> -- Original Message --
>>> From: "James Smith" <jor...@comsouth.net>
>>> To: "Legacy User Group" <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
>>> Sent: 2/2/2017 1:03:46 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Big Question
>>> 
>>>> Barbara, Legacy 6 works perfectly well with Windows 10, I notice no
> difference sin

Re: [LegacyUG] Big Question

2017-02-03 Thread Barbara Ford

Okay, got it. I think I may at least try keeping 6, if it will work on Windows 
10, and I'm very much "on" to keeping it in the directories as you mention 
here, Steve. So, I'll do that on the new computer and at last try it, with not 
upgrading after all. My two issues (will 6 work on Windows 10, and does the 
later version allow embedded photos) have been answered in such a way that I 
believe I can stick with 6.
Thanks,
Barb

> On Feb 3, 2017, at 9:13 AM, Steve Hayes  wrote:
> 
>> On 2 Feb 2017 at 23:36, Robert57P_gmail wrote:
>> 
>> One problem you may have run into with Legacy 6 and Win7:  Windows 7 
>> "protects" some of the folders that used to be open.  By default, the 
>> older Legacy versions (I forget when they changed it) used to install in some
>> of these folders that are now "protected".
> 
> No, it is the NEW Legacy version (8 and above) that by default installs 
> itself into protected folders.
> 
> I still have Legacy 7.5 on my computer, and it is installed in 
> 
> E:\Legacy\
> 
> with the data files in 
> 
> E:\Legacy\Data
> 
> and pictures in 
> 
> E:\Legacy\pictures
> 
> I routinely copied these backwards and forwards between my desktop computer 
> (running Windows XP) and my laptop computer (running Windows 7) with no 
> problems, just a simple batch file did it. 
> 
> Legacy 8, by default, installs itself inder 
> 
> C:\Program Files\
> 
> which IS a directory protected by Windows, and doesn't allow data files to be 
> kept under it (as the older versions of Legacy did), so it keeps data files 
> under the My Documents folder,.wherever that may be.
> 
> I set up Legacy 8 differently, to install its program files into
> 
> E:\Legacy8
> 
> and its data files in 
> 
> E:\Leg8Data
> 
> That makes it easier for me to copy the data files to a USB flash drive to 
> transfer to my Laptop. And those directories, like the ones created by older 
> version of Legacy, are not protected by Windows. But the \Program Files\ one 
> is. 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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> E-mail: sha...@dunelm.org.uk
> Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
> Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
> Phone: 083-342-3563 or 012-333-6727
>Fax: 086-548-2525
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Big Question

2017-02-03 Thread Barbara Ford

Now that makes perfect sense. I'm flagging this note to perhaps save me some 
pain when I do a new install into Windows 10.

Agree about the admin thing--I currently cannot get rid of a folder (a Western 
Digital folder) I do not want on an external hard drive, because it says I 
don't have administrative privileges. Enfuriating.

Thanks,
Barb

> On Feb 2, 2017, at 10:36 PM, Robert57P_gmail <robert...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> One problem you may have run into with Legacy 6 and Win7:  Windows 7 
> "protects" some of the folders that used to be open.  By default, the older 
> Legacy versions (I forget when they changed it) used to install in some of 
> these folders that are now "protected".
> 
> I got around this by overriding the Legacy install.  If you install Legacy 6 
> on Windows 10 (or Win8 or Win7), instead of accepting the normal "C:\PROGRAM 
> FILES", instead tell Legacy to install into something like:  
> "C:\winprog\legacy".  Since you are creating that "winprog" folder, windows 
> has no rules about it and won't protect it.  So the older programs should run 
> fine out of that location.
> 
> I have a C:\winprog, and C:\wingame, and a C:\winutil - I install any "old 
> style" programs in those folders instead of in "C:\PROGRAM FILES" and it 
> works pretty good.  And I store data from "old style" programs into 
> C:\windata.  As much as I appreciate Microsoft "trying to protect us from 
> ourselves", I don't like being told "you don't have permission to mess in 
> folder xyz"!!!  I'm the administrator of this computer, darn it - I can do 
> (or should be able to do) whatever I want where ever I want . . . as long as 
> I understand the consequences.  Or, as a poster I once saw said:
> "When my computer tells me I don't have admin privileges . . . Aren't we 
> forgetting one teensy weensy but ever so critical little tiny detail?  I OWN 
> YOU"
> 
> Bob
> 
>> On 02/02/2017 14:16, Barb Ford wrote:
>> Okay, thank you, James. My incorrect assumption that Legacy 6 would not play 
>> well with Windows 10 was based on this: When I started with Legacy 6, I used 
>> XP. A few years ago, I changed to Windows 7. At that time, my Legacy program 
>> simply would not open with the new operating system. I was able to utilize 
>> the help of someone from this group, at that time, who spent a lot of time 
>> off-group, even with a Skype session, helping me to get everything to work. 
>> It was my understanding that the problem was because of the operating system 
>> and that I should consider upgrading to a newer Legacy version if I 
>> encountered further problems. As I say, that was my understanding at the 
>> time; perhaps I misunderstood, or perhaps I was given incorrect or 
>> incomplete information. Either way, it has been in the back of my mind that 
>> when I changed operating systems again, I should be ready to upgrade to the 
>> latest Legacy version. I see now that I was laboring under a false 
>> assumption/conclusion.
>> Thank you,
>> Barbara
>> 
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "James Smith" <jor...@comsouth.net>
>> To: "Legacy User Group" <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
>> Sent: 2/2/2017 1:03:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Big Question
>> 
>>> Barbara, Legacy 6 works perfectly well with Windows 10, I notice no 
>>> difference since Windows XP and 8.1. As someone else indicated, if you 
>>> upgrade to Legacy 8, make a copy of your Legacy 6 file to transfer to 
>>> Legacy 8, keeping your Legacy 6 file intact. Once your file is transferred 
>>> to Legacy 8 it will be unusable on Legacy 6. As stated, you can run both 
>>> programs on the same computer until you are comfortable with the new Legacy.
>>> 
>>> James Smith
>>> 
>>>> On 2/2/2017 1:46 PM, Barbara Ford wrote:
>>>> Brian, then if I kept both, would they access the data from the same data 
>>>> file, or does Legacy 8 put its data in a different location, and does it 
>>>> save it "on the fly" like Legacy 6? My Legacy 6 data is all in a folder 
>>>> named Legacy that resides directly on the C hard drive. I don't have a 
>>>> real reason for wanting NOT to use Legacy 6, except that I fear it would 
>>>> not work well with Windows 10. Am I right on that?
>>>> 
>>>>> O
>>> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Big Question

2017-02-02 Thread Barbara Ford

Okay, thank you so much.
Barb

> On Feb 2, 2017, at 8:47 PM, Steve Hayes  wrote:
> 
>> On 2 Feb 2017 at 19:17, Barb Ford wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you. So, since Legacy 8 will not overwrite Legacy 6, once I can 
>> figure out where Legacy 8 stores its data, I could run both until I 
>> figure out the new one. Is this correct?
> 
> Nearly.
> 
> One thing to remember is that once you have converted your data files to 
> Legacy 8, you cannot work on them in Legacy 6 any more.
> 
> So if you wanted to continue to use both versions, you would have to update 
> your data files in two places.
> 
> I think if you go to the Legacy web site you can see the different features 
> of the different versions. If you don't need any of the new features of 
> Legacy 8, you could carry on using version 6, and just install 6 on your new 
> computer and copy your data files there. 
> 
> I never used version 6, but I have used 5, 7, 7.5 and 8. At the moment I'm 
> using version 8 on both my desktop and laptop computers.
> 
> I think the only thing that version 8 can do that the earlier versions 
> couldn't, is that it connects to FamilySearch to exchange data. If there are 
> other differences in capabilities, I'm not aware of them. 
> 
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Big Question

2017-02-02 Thread Barbara Ford

Brian, then if I kept both, would they access the data from the same data file, 
or does Legacy 8 put its data in a different location, and does it save it "on 
the fly" like Legacy 6? My Legacy 6 data is all in a folder named Legacy that 
resides directly on the C hard drive. I don't have a real reason for wanting 
NOT to use Legacy 6, except that I fear it would not work well with Windows 10. 
Am I right on that?

> On Feb 2, 2017, at 12:39 PM, Brian Kelly <exma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Legacy 8 is fully data compatible with your Legacy 6 file so you will not 
> lose any data. This is true for all versions of Legacy. Newer versions will 
> convert the files from older ones without data loss. Once you have converted 
> your file however you will not be able to use it with Legacy 6.
> 
> Because of changes in the way Legacy is installed your Legacy 8.0 
> installation will not overwrite your Legacy 6.0 so you could perhaps keep 
> your Legacy 6 running in parallel with Legacy 8 to compare the two.
> 
> Brian Kelly
> 
>> On 02-Feb-17 1:27 PM, Barbara Ford wrote:
>> Hope I'm not "hearing" that I can't get there from here. In other words, is 
>> it possible to go from Legacy 6 Deluxe to Legacy 8, keeping all my data 
>> intact? I'm not so worried about learning some of the nuances of the "new" 
>> version, just wanting to know that I do everything in such a way that I keep 
>> all my data and have a clear understanding of where everything is stored and 
>> how everything is backed up.
>> Barbara
>> 
>>>> On Feb 2, 2017, at 11:26 AM, Jenny M Benson <ge...@cedarbank.me.uk> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On 02-Feb-17 04:27 PM, Barbara Ford wrote:
>>>> Okay, I'm nervous about asking this, because the answer is sort of a
>>>> big deal in my world! Seriously, please don't judge me, but I have to
>>>> confess that I am still running Legacy 6 Deluxe (on Windows 7
>>>> Professional). That's right, I have not updated in all this time. It
>>>> took me a long time to get comfortable with how Legacy works, and I
>>>> simply didn't want to rock the boat, since it was working for me.
>>> 
>>> To a degree I can understand your reluctance to update and I am certainly 
>>> not going to judge you, but I do think it is not always a wise decision.  I 
>>> know you are now planning to update, so perhaps what I have to say is 
>>> irrelevant for you, but I thought I'd mention it for the benefit (I hope!) 
>>> of others.
>>> 
>>> When there is an upgrade (like 6 to 7 or 7 to 8, not just an update) there 
>>> will be new features to learn which can be a little daunting, but on the 
>>> whole the basics stay the same and you don't have to start using all the 
>>> new features at once or until you are ready.  The new features will almost 
>>> certainly be what many, many people have been suggesting or asking for so 
>>> the chances are you will like them/find them useful eventually.
>>> 
>>> Almost inevitably, little bugs and errors are found in programs, hence the 
>>> updates between upgrades.  If you stick with an old version of the program 
>>> you are not going to get any existing faults fixed which could cause real 
>>> problems at some time.
>>> 
>>> As most people will probably keep pace with the upgrades there is going to 
>>> be a lot more help available from other users if you are using the current 
>>> version of a program.  For example, I don't think I ever used Legacy 6 and 
>>> I have been using 8 for so long now that I really wouldn't feel confident 
>>> about helping anyone with 7 because I can't remember what has changed.
>>> 
>>> I am now eagerly looking forward to Legacy 9 but as I did when moving from 
>>> 7 to 8, I will keep the older version on my computer for a while and keep a 
>>> copy of my file which can be used with it so I can always go back to it if 
>>> I find I really have to.
>>> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Big Question

2017-02-02 Thread Barbara Ford

Hope I'm not "hearing" that I can't get there from here. In other words, is it 
possible to go from Legacy 6 Deluxe to Legacy 8, keeping all my data intact? 
I'm not so worried about learning some of the nuances of the "new" version, 
just wanting to know that I do everything in such a way that I keep all my data 
and have a clear understanding of where everything is stored and how everything 
is backed up.
Barbara

> On Feb 2, 2017, at 11:26 AM, Jenny M Benson <ge...@cedarbank.me.uk> wrote:
> 
>> On 02-Feb-17 04:27 PM, Barbara Ford wrote:
>> Okay, I'm nervous about asking this, because the answer is sort of a
>> big deal in my world! Seriously, please don't judge me, but I have to
>> confess that I am still running Legacy 6 Deluxe (on Windows 7
>> Professional). That's right, I have not updated in all this time. It
>> took me a long time to get comfortable with how Legacy works, and I
>> simply didn't want to rock the boat, since it was working for me.
> 
> To a degree I can understand your reluctance to update and I am certainly not 
> going to judge you, but I do think it is not always a wise decision.  I know 
> you are now planning to update, so perhaps what I have to say is irrelevant 
> for you, but I thought I'd mention it for the benefit (I hope!) of others.
> 
> When there is an upgrade (like 6 to 7 or 7 to 8, not just an update) there 
> will be new features to learn which can be a little daunting, but on the 
> whole the basics stay the same and you don't have to start using all the new 
> features at once or until you are ready.  The new features will almost 
> certainly be what many, many people have been suggesting or asking for so the 
> chances are you will like them/find them useful eventually.
> 
> Almost inevitably, little bugs and errors are found in programs, hence the 
> updates between upgrades.  If you stick with an old version of the program 
> you are not going to get any existing faults fixed which could cause real 
> problems at some time.
> 
> As most people will probably keep pace with the upgrades there is going to be 
> a lot more help available from other users if you are using the current 
> version of a program.  For example, I don't think I ever used Legacy 6 and I 
> have been using 8 for so long now that I really wouldn't feel confident about 
> helping anyone with 7 because I can't remember what has changed.
> 
> I am now eagerly looking forward to Legacy 9 but as I did when moving from 7 
> to 8, I will keep the older version on my computer for a while and keep a 
> copy of my file which can be used with it so I can always go back to it if I 
> find I really have to.
> 
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[LegacyUG] Big Question

2017-02-02 Thread Barbara Ford

Okay, I'm nervous about asking this, because the answer is sort of a big deal 
in my world! Seriously, please don't judge me, but I have to confess that I am 
still running Legacy 6 Deluxe (on Windows 7 Professional). That's right, I have 
not updated in all this time. It took me a long time to get comfortable with 
how Legacy works, and I simply didn't want to rock the boat, since it was 
working for me. 

However, I am now trying to get all my ducks in a row for the possibility of a 
new laptop, and I'm fairly certain I will want/need the latest version of 
Legacy when I do that. So, I'm thinking I should go ahead now and update Legacy 
while I still have an operating system I understand, so that once I am forced 
to go to Windows 10 (by virtue of buying a new laptop), at least I'll already 
be comfortable with the Legacy 8 software. I believe I have read that Legacy 8 
does work with Windows 7 (and I'm sure it is compatible with Windows 10 as 
well).

Bottom line question here: to avoid the group involvement in all my questions 
about this process, etc., is there someone who would be willing to answer my 
questions/walk me through some of this outside the group?

I have a few questions that I need to understand before I actually try the 
update.

Thank you,
Barb Ford
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Re: [LegacyUG] Exporting to Gedcom

2017-02-02 Thread Barbara Ford

Further on this, Ian, yes, I absolutely love the PDF report creation feature of 
Legacy, and I use it a lot, saving anew anytime I have made major updates in 
the software. This would work great for anyone wanting to see the data. Was 
thinking more along the lines of someone in my family who might want to 
continue the work, in which case the software is the key issue. The point about 
running Legacy on a MAC is a good idea.
Barb

> On Feb 1, 2017, at 9:50 PM, Ian Thomas <il.tho...@outlook.com> wrote:
> 
> I create PDF reports. They can be printed or examined on screen by the 
> recipients, and can also be cut-and-paste transferred if it is really 
> necessary. Of course this no substitute for complete data transfer via some 
> ideal GEDCOM format and 100% capable software each end (Windows, Mac). 
> Another possibility - seriously - is for Mac users to buy Parallels or a 
> similar program that allows them to run the exact same version of Legacy 
> Family Tree that you are using. Not cheap - but also not nearly as costly as 
> a subscription to Ancestry. 
> 
> Ian Thomas
> Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
> Behalf Of Barbara Ford
> Sent: Thursday, 2 February 2017 1:39 PM
> To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Exporting to Gedcom
> 
> Thanks, John, right, what I meant was that if everyone had Windows I could 
> probably talk them into using Legacy and I wouldn't worry so much about data 
> export/import via gedcom. Does that make sense. But you make a good 
> suggestion here. 
> Barb
> 
>> On Feb 1, 2017, at 8:32 PM, John Sandford <jgk...@vodafone.co.nz> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Barb GEDCOM file is a universal format for all Ancestry software 
>> irrespective of the Operating system imported into.
>> You could print off all  or a quantity of report and email them to 
>> family that way they have a means of checking.
>> Let me know how it all goes
>> Regards
>> John
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: LegacyUserGroup
>> [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On Behalf Of Barbara 
>> Ford
>> Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 10:10 AM
>> To: Legacy User Group
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Exporting to Gedcom
>> 
>> Good ideas, John. I'm such a worry wart. My fear is that some of the 
>> details, like sources, notes, etc., won't export/import properly and 
>> will be lost, and that it won't be obvious that "things" are missing 
>> when I do the trial(s).
>> 
>> I wish Legacy had a version for MAC. Any such possibility in the 
>> future? I'll always be Windows, but more and more of my family are MAC 
>> users, so I worry about the Legacy data being all intact for them.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Barb
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 1, 2017, at 1:04 AM, John Sandford
>> <jgk...@vodafone.co.nz> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Barbara,
>>> I imported a Family Tree Maker2014 which is the last build of
>> FTM With
>>> a GEDCOM File so i do not have any tips that would be of help.
>>> Have your relative back up their FTM file before importing your
>> GEDCOM
>>> Legacy file into FTM.
>>> Then open FTM with the imported GEDCOM file installed and see
>> what
>>> they have got.
>>> If FTM does not have all the info that is required install the
>> backed
>>> up FTM file and carry on as usual.
>>> Hope this is of some help
>>> Regards
>>> John Sandford
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: LegacyUserGroup
>>> [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On Behalf Of
>> Barbara
>>> Ford
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2017 4:01 PM
>>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Exporting to Gedcom
>>> 
>>> I have a relative who uses Family Tree Maker (latest version). I
>> want
>>> to export my Legacy file (the whole family group) in the best
>> possible
>>> way that will keep as much data as possible (sources, notes,
>> even
>>> private information, etc.). Any tips for me, as far as the
>> options I
>>> should choose when I export?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Barbara Ford
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Re: [LegacyUG] Exporting to Gedcom

2017-02-01 Thread Barbara Ford

More great information. Thanks. 

Sent from iPhone

> On Feb 1, 2017, at 9:50 PM, Ian Thomas <il.tho...@outlook.com> wrote:
> 
> I create PDF reports. They can be printed or examined on screen by the 
> recipients, and can also be cut-and-paste transferred if it is really 
> necessary. Of course this no substitute for complete data transfer via some 
> ideal GEDCOM format and 100% capable software each end (Windows, Mac). 
> Another possibility - seriously - is for Mac users to buy Parallels or a 
> similar program that allows them to run the exact same version of Legacy 
> Family Tree that you are using. Not cheap - but also not nearly as costly as 
> a subscription to Ancestry. 
> 
> Ian Thomas
> Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
> Behalf Of Barbara Ford
> Sent: Thursday, 2 February 2017 1:39 PM
> To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Exporting to Gedcom
> 
> Thanks, John, right, what I meant was that if everyone had Windows I could 
> probably talk them into using Legacy and I wouldn't worry so much about data 
> export/import via gedcom. Does that make sense. But you make a good 
> suggestion here. 
> Barb
> 
>> On Feb 1, 2017, at 8:32 PM, John Sandford <jgk...@vodafone.co.nz> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Barb GEDCOM file is a universal format for all Ancestry software 
>> irrespective of the Operating system imported into.
>> You could print off all  or a quantity of report and email them to 
>> family that way they have a means of checking.
>> Let me know how it all goes
>> Regards
>> John
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: LegacyUserGroup
>> [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On Behalf Of Barbara 
>> Ford
>> Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 10:10 AM
>> To: Legacy User Group
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Exporting to Gedcom
>> 
>> Good ideas, John. I'm such a worry wart. My fear is that some of the 
>> details, like sources, notes, etc., won't export/import properly and 
>> will be lost, and that it won't be obvious that "things" are missing 
>> when I do the trial(s).
>> 
>> I wish Legacy had a version for MAC. Any such possibility in the 
>> future? I'll always be Windows, but more and more of my family are MAC 
>> users, so I worry about the Legacy data being all intact for them.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Barb
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 1, 2017, at 1:04 AM, John Sandford
>> <jgk...@vodafone.co.nz> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Barbara,
>>> I imported a Family Tree Maker2014 which is the last build of
>> FTM With
>>> a GEDCOM File so i do not have any tips that would be of help.
>>> Have your relative back up their FTM file before importing your
>> GEDCOM
>>> Legacy file into FTM.
>>> Then open FTM with the imported GEDCOM file installed and see
>> what
>>> they have got.
>>> If FTM does not have all the info that is required install the
>> backed
>>> up FTM file and carry on as usual.
>>> Hope this is of some help
>>> Regards
>>> John Sandford
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: LegacyUserGroup
>>> [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On Behalf Of
>> Barbara
>>> Ford
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2017 4:01 PM
>>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Exporting to Gedcom
>>> 
>>> I have a relative who uses Family Tree Maker (latest version). I
>> want
>>> to export my Legacy file (the whole family group) in the best
>> possible
>>> way that will keep as much data as possible (sources, notes,
>> even
>>> private information, etc.). Any tips for me, as far as the
>> options I
>>> should choose when I export?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Barbara Ford
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Re: [LegacyUG] Exporting to Gedcom

2017-02-01 Thread Barbara Ford

Thanks, John, right, what I meant was that if everyone had Windows I could 
probably talk them into using Legacy and I wouldn't worry so much about data 
export/import via gedcom. Does that make sense. But you make a good suggestion 
here. 
Barb

> On Feb 1, 2017, at 8:32 PM, John Sandford <jgk...@vodafone.co.nz> wrote:
> 
> Hi Barb GEDCOM file is a universal format for all Ancestry
> software irrespective of the Operating system imported into.
> You could print off all  or a quantity of report and email them to
> family that way they have a means of checking.
> Let me know how it all goes
> Regards
> John
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: LegacyUserGroup
> [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On Behalf Of
> Barbara Ford
> Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2017 10:10 AM
> To: Legacy User Group
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Exporting to Gedcom
> 
> Good ideas, John. I'm such a worry wart. My fear is that some of
> the details, like sources, notes, etc., won't export/import
> properly and will be lost, and that it won't be obvious that
> "things" are missing when I do the trial(s).
> 
> I wish Legacy had a version for MAC. Any such possibility in the
> future? I'll always be Windows, but more and more of my family are
> MAC users, so I worry about the Legacy data being all intact for
> them.
> 
> Thanks,
> Barb
> 
> 
>> On Feb 1, 2017, at 1:04 AM, John Sandford
> <jgk...@vodafone.co.nz> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Barbara,
>> I imported a Family Tree Maker2014 which is the last build of
> FTM With 
>> a GEDCOM File so i do not have any tips that would be of help.
>> Have your relative back up their FTM file before importing your
> GEDCOM 
>> Legacy file into FTM.
>> Then open FTM with the imported GEDCOM file installed and see
> what 
>> they have got.
>> If FTM does not have all the info that is required install the
> backed 
>> up FTM file and carry on as usual.
>> Hope this is of some help
>> Regards
>> John Sandford
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: LegacyUserGroup
>> [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On Behalf Of
> Barbara 
>> Ford
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2017 4:01 PM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Exporting to Gedcom
>> 
>> I have a relative who uses Family Tree Maker (latest version). I
> want 
>> to export my Legacy file (the whole family group) in the best
> possible 
>> way that will keep as much data as possible (sources, notes,
> even 
>> private information, etc.). Any tips for me, as far as the
> options I 
>> should choose when I export?
>> Thanks,
>> Barbara Ford
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Re: [LegacyUG] Exporting to Gedcom

2017-02-01 Thread Barbara Ford

Good ideas, John. I'm such a worry wart. My fear is that some of the details, 
like sources, notes, etc., won't export/import properly and will be lost, and 
that it won't be obvious that "things" are missing when I do the trial(s).

I wish Legacy had a version for MAC. Any such possibility in the future? I'll 
always be Windows, but more and more of my family are MAC users, so I worry 
about the Legacy data being all intact for them.

Thanks,
Barb


> On Feb 1, 2017, at 1:04 AM, John Sandford <jgk...@vodafone.co.nz> wrote:
> 
> Hi Barbara,
> I imported a Family Tree Maker2014 which is the last build of FTM
> With a GEDCOM File so i do not have any tips that would be of
> help.
> Have your relative back up their FTM file before importing your
> GEDCOM Legacy file into FTM.
> Then open FTM with the imported GEDCOM file installed and see what
> they have got.
> If FTM does not have all the info that is required install the
> backed up FTM file and carry on as usual.
> Hope this is of some help
> Regards
> John Sandford
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: [LegacyUG] Exporting to Gedcom
> 
> I have a relative who uses Family Tree Maker (latest version). I
> want to export my Legacy file (the whole family group) in the best
> possible way that will keep as much data as possible (sources,
> notes, even private information, etc.). Any tips for me, as far as
> the options I should choose when I export?
> Thanks,
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[LegacyUG] Exporting to Gedcom

2017-01-31 Thread Barbara Ford

I have a relative who uses Family Tree Maker (latest version). I want to export 
my Legacy file (the whole family group) in the best possible way that will keep 
as much data as possible (sources, notes, even private information, etc.). Any 
tips for me, as far as the options I should choose when I export?
Thanks,
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[LegacyUG] Versions?

2017-01-24 Thread Barbara Ford

What is the latest version of Legacy and what Windows versions is it compatible 
with?
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Re: [LegacyUG] Linking comes in as wrong relationship

2017-01-21 Thread Barbara Ford

Well, and of course, that finished fixing it. Thank you so much, Cathy and 
Brian. You guys are so helpful, and I really appreciate it.
Barbara


> On Jan 21, 2017, at 5:40 PM, Brian Kelly <exma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> You probably also have to re do the set direct line as preferred since the 
> changes you made have affected your direct line ancestors. Legacy needs to 
> recalculate who should be bold.
> Tools > Set direct line.
> 
> Brian Kelly
> 
> 
>> On 21-Jan-17 6:22 PM, Barbara Ford wrote:
>> Thank you, Cathy. That did work--that is, it now says the right thing! So, 
>> that's good. But I do notice that that name is not bolded (the individuals 
>> in my line are bolded, and the grandfathers before him and after him are 
>> bolded). Maybe that will self-correct later? It shows him as the correct 
>> grandfather, but in the list of "children" that he is part of, his name is 
>> not bolded.
>> Thank you,
>> Barbara
>> 
>>> On Jan 21, 2017, at 5:15 PM, Cathy Pinner <genea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Barbara,
>>> 
>>> Just go to Tools - Set Relationships and reset them. You may want to clear 
>>> them first and then reset.
>>> 
>>> Cathy
>>> 
>>> Barbara Ford wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> This is me, pulling my hair out. In order to insert a generation where I 
>>>> had skipped one, I have just unlinked a line and then linked as needed. I 
>>>> hesitate to get any more detailed than that, unless it's needed to 
>>>> troubleshoot. Bottom line, everyone is where they need to be in line, 
>>>> except that the person I have re-linked shows as my 5th Great-Granduncle 
>>>> instead of my 5th Great-Grandfather as it should be. I linked him as the 
>>>> son of my 6th Great-Grandfather (and that person is correct). The 5th 
>>>> Great-Granduncle as it now shows him, is now showing as the father of my 
>>>> 4th Great Grandfather. In other words, the one above him is correct, and 
>>>> the one below him is correct (6th and 4th Great Grandfa thers), but he 
>>>> (the problem child) is showing as my 5th Great Granduncle (instead of 5th 
>>>> Great Grandfather).
>>>> 
>>>> This is a mess. Please ask me questions to make sense of this, if you 
>>>> think you might be able to help.
>>>> Barbara Ford
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Re: [LegacyUG] Linking comes in as wrong relationship

2017-01-21 Thread Barbara Ford

Thank you, Cathy. That did work--that is, it now says the right thing! So, 
that's good. But I do notice that that name is not bolded (the individuals in 
my line are bolded, and the grandfathers before him and after him are bolded). 
Maybe that will self-correct later? It shows him as the correct grandfather, 
but in the list of "children" that he is part of, his name is not bolded.
Thank you,
Barbara

> On Jan 21, 2017, at 5:15 PM, Cathy Pinner <genea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Barbara,
> 
> Just go to Tools - Set Relationships and reset them. You may want to clear 
> them first and then reset.
> 
> Cathy
> 
> Barbara Ford wrote:
>> 
>> This is me, pulling my hair out. In order to insert a generation where I had 
>> skipped one, I have just unlinked a line and then linked as needed. I 
>> hesitate to get any more detailed than that, unless it's needed to 
>> troubleshoot. Bottom line, everyone is where they need to be in line, except 
>> that the person I have re-linked shows as my 5th Great-Granduncle instead of 
>> my 5th Great-Grandfather as it should be. I linked him as the son of my 6th 
>> Great-Grandfather (and that person is correct). The 5th Great-Granduncle as 
>> it now shows him, is now showing as the father of my 4th Great Grandfather. 
>> In other words, the one above him is correct, and the one below him is 
>> correct (6th and 4th Great Grandfa thers), but he (the problem child) is 
>> showing as my 5th Great Granduncle (instead of 5th Great Grandfather).
>> 
>> This is a mess. Please ask me questions to make sense of this, if you think 
>> you might be able to help.
>> Barbara Ford
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[LegacyUG] Linking comes in as wrong relationship

2017-01-21 Thread Barbara Ford

This is me, pulling my hair out. In order to insert a generation where I had 
skipped one, I have just unlinked a line and then linked as needed. I hesitate 
to get any more detailed than that, unless it's needed to troubleshoot. Bottom 
line, everyone is where they need to be in line, except that the person I have 
re-linked shows as my 5th Great-Granduncle instead of my 5th Great-Grandfather 
as it should be. I linked him as the son of my 6th Great-Grandfather (and that 
person is correct). The 5th Great-Granduncle as it now shows him, is now 
showing as the father of my 4th Great Grandfather. In other words, the one 
above him is correct, and the one below him is correct (6th and 4th Great 
Grandfathers), but he (the problem child) is showing as my 5th Great Granduncle 
(instead of 5th Great Grandfather).

This is a mess. Please ask me questions to make sense of this, if you think you 
might be able to help. 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Subscribing

2017-01-12 Thread Barbara Ford

Okay, then, that's good. Won't worry that I didn't get a confirmation email 
with details.


> On Jan 12, 2017, at 2:33 PM, Bobby Johnson <b...@brmemc.net> wrote:
> 
> Barbara,
> Apparently you did nothing wrong. Your post came through
> just fine.
> Bobby
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-
>> boun...@legacyusers.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Ford
>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 3:27 PM
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Subscribing
>> 
>> Can someone tell me if I have done something wrong, in
>> attempting to subscribe to this list. I received a message
> at the
>> top of the screen on the web site where I subscribed that
> says
>> the email address has been subscribed to the
> LegacyUserGroup
>> and I should receive an email message with details.
> However,
>> the next line says "Error Sending: Transport Layer
> Security
>> Error #30 (SMTP): 554 Message rejected: Email address is
> not
>> verified. The following identities failed the check in
> region US-
>> East-1 and then lists my mail address." The screen where I
>> subscribed says Legacy User Group-Mailing List.
>> 
>> I have tried with two different email addresses and get
> the
>> same message on both (multiple tries).
>> 
>> What am I doing wrong?
>> Thanks,
>> Barbara Ford
>> 
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[LegacyUG] Subscribing

2017-01-12 Thread Barbara Ford

Can someone tell me if I have done something wrong, in attempting to subscribe 
to this list. I received a message at the top of the screen on the web site 
where I subscribed that says the email address has been subscribed to the 
LegacyUserGroup and I should receive an email message with details. However, 
the next line says "Error Sending: Transport Layer Security Error #30 (SMTP): 
554 Message rejected: Email address is not verified. The following identities 
failed the check in region US-East-1 and then lists my mail address." The 
screen where I subscribed says Legacy User Group-Mailing List.

I have tried with two different email addresses and get the same message on 
both (multiple tries).

What am I doing wrong?
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Re: [LegacyUG] Couple married twice

2016-10-14 Thread Barbara Thomas

This may help. 
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1340418

⁣Barbara Thomas
Sent from my smart phone

On 14 Oct 2016 3:51 pm, at 3:51 pm, Susan Osborne 
<randomreflecti...@ameritech.net> wrote:
>I have this situation also.  
>It appears that both of these churches were both affiliated to the
> Church of England.  Sometimes there was a second marriage because in a
>church of another faith when one faith was not the established church
>in England at the time and the marriage would not have been recognized.
> But, this does not appear to be the case here.
>I, personally, would use the information from the earliest marriage in
>the  record and enter the second marriage in the notes.
>Maybe the couple had a falling out and felt they needed a renewal of
>their vows?
>
> 
>
>On Friday, October 14, 2016 8:58 AM, John Francis
><pint...@globalnet.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>
>James Spencer (a corporal in the Grenadier Guards) married Ellen Kemp
>on 
>24 Dec 1868 in St. Margaret's Church, Westminster. The couple then 
>married again on 27 Feb 1871 in the Royal Chapel in the Tower of
>London. 
>I am now looking into possible reasons for them going through two 
>marriage ceremonies, but my immediate problem is: how do I record the 
>two marriages in Legacy?
>
>I would be grateful for any suggestions.
>
>John Francis
>
>Suffolk, UK
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Re: [LegacyUG] need help with text size

2016-07-18 Thread Barbara Lewis

I tried charting  today, but because I’ve never used it, I couldn’t figure it 
out…

I’ll be OK with what I have….hopefully

Thank you for your help.



Barbara



From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Leon Chapman
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 11:41 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] need help with text size



Boyd:

Have you tried the Legacy Charting rather than the Pedigree.

You have a lot more options at to what goes in the boxes, fonts, etc.

The Icon for this should be in the My Toolbar tab to right of Internet called 
Legacy Charting.

Chap




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On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 10:25 PM, Boyd Miller <bo...@vodafone.net.nz> wrote:

I don't have any trouble with the five generation chart except that if you put 
boxes around the names the font reduces. With the six generation chart the font 
size changes after the first four generations, and if you put boxes around the 
names you loose a lot of data in the last two generations The sis gen chart is 
out of alignment in may places, and has never been right in Version 8 although 
there have been a few minor improvements. It was much better designed in Ver 
7.5.

Boyd

On 18/07/2016 3:13 p.m., Cathy Pinner wrote:

Open the Pedigree Chart options then the Report Options button and look for the 
Report Fonts button. But I'm not sure that they make much or any difference in 
a Pedigree Chart. It's the number of generations that have to fit on a page 
that determines the font size I think.

The simplest thing to do is to change to 4 generations per page.

Cathy



Barbara Lewis  <mailto:lewisro...@comcast.net> <mailto:lewisro...@comcast.net>
Monday, 18 July 2016 10:22 AM

I am trying to run off a pedigree chart with 5 generations….the text size is so 
small I can hardly see it. I don’t care I need an extra page. Can someone point 
out where I go to change the text size on reports?

Barbara L.






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Re: [LegacyUG] need help with text size

2016-07-18 Thread Barbara Lewis

Cathy, thank you for your help...I can't find a place to change the text
size, much, but on the place you sent me to, the place at the bottom allows
me to increase the spacing so it doesn't look so crowded!

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Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 9:14 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] need help with text size

Open the Pedigree Chart options then the Report Options button and look for
the Report Fonts button. But I'm not sure that they make much or any
difference in a Pedigree Chart. It's the number of generations that have to
fit on a page that determines the font size I think.

The simplest thing to do is to change to 4 generations per page.

Cathy
> Barbara Lewis <mailto:lewisro...@comcast.net> Monday, 18 July 2016 
> 10:22 AM
>
> I am trying to run off a pedigree chart with 5 generations..the text 
> size is so small I can hardly see it. I don't care I need an extra 
> page. Can someone point out where I go to change the text size on reports?
>
> Barbara L.
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Re: [LegacyUG] need help with text size

2016-07-18 Thread Barbara Lewis

Boyd, thank you for your comments.  I am still working on this...

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Boyd Miller
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 11:25 PM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] need help with text size

I don't have any trouble with the five generation chart except that if you
put boxes around the names the font reduces. With the six generation chart
the font size changes after the first four generations, and if you put boxes
around the names you loose a lot of data in the last two generations The sis
gen chart is out of alignment in may places, and has never been right in
Version 8 although there have been a few minor improvements. It was much
better designed in Ver 7.5.

Boyd

On 18/07/2016 3:13 p.m., Cathy Pinner wrote:

Open the Pedigree Chart options then the Report Options button and look for
the Report Fonts button. But I'm not sure that they make much or any
difference in a Pedigree Chart. It's the number of generations that have to
fit on a page that determines the font size I think. 

The simplest thing to do is to change to 4 generations per page. 

Cathy 

Barbara Lewis  <mailto:lewisro...@comcast.net>
<mailto:lewisro...@comcast.net> 
Monday, 18 July 2016 10:22 AM 

I am trying to run off a pedigree chart with 5 generations..the text size is
so small I can hardly see it. I don't care I need an extra page. Can someone
point out where I go to change the text size on reports? 

Barbara L. 

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[LegacyUG] need help with text size

2016-07-17 Thread Barbara Lewis

I am trying to run off a pedigree chart with 5 generations..the text size is
so small I can hardly see it.  I don't care I need an extra page.  Can
someone point out where I go to change the text size on reports?

 

Barbara L.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Relation who can't be correctly linked.

2016-06-07 Thread Barbara Shroyer

I don't link when neither parent is known.  I created a Link event to use in
this type of situation, but use this event very sparingly.  "William Thomas
Bloor may have been a grandson of  and __."  I'd then also have Link
event for the grandparents reading " and  may have been the
grandparents of William Thomas Bloor."  The link can be easily seen without
attaching the individual.  This works for both known non-parent
relationships and probable relationships.

Barbara
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From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
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Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 9:03 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Relation who can't be correctly linked.

I have a relation, William Thomas Bloor, known to my grandmother as "Uncle
Tom" who has always been something of a mystery.  I've never been able to
find anything about his birth or baptism.  On his Marriage Cert his father's
name is given as William Macallister Bloor, but I am sure he was
illegitimate and the surname Bloor should not be tacked on. 
(Similarly, his wife was illegitimate and her father's name as her own
surname tacked on, incorrectly.)  Then I found a report of my 2nd Great
Grandfather's funeral in which he was described as a nephew.

If he was illegitimate and was a nephew of my GG Grandfather there were
4 daughters who might possibly have been his mother.  Of 3 of them I know
nothing other than their names and dates of baptism, the 4th was just old
enough (about 16) to have been Uncle Tom's mother 4 years or so before she
married.

How would other users link Uncle Tom to the rest of the family so that his
correct relationship shows up?  Would you link him to one of the 4 sisters
with a note that the relationship is totally unproven?  Link him to all 4
with the relationships all unproven?  Add a new unknown sibling as the
parent of Uncle Tom?
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Re: [LegacyUG] Where on my computer should my Legacy program .(exe etc.) be located?

2016-03-19 Thread Barbara T

Hi Martha
No real reason not to upgrade to 8 but when I (admittedly quickly) looked at what it would do over 7.5 they seemed to be things I wasn't interested in like interface with family search.org, putting your tree up on Ancestry were 2 I remember.  I find for my purposes that there are way too many options already in 7.5 De Luxe.  The only bug I have with this version is that when the system is searching for a misplaced media file it almost always stops part way through the search but it does  usually finish in the end so not such a big deal. I could be convinced to upgrade to 8 but my thoughts at the moment are "better the devil you know".
Barbara
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[LegacyUG] Duplicates/Loop

2016-02-10 Thread Barbara Ford

When I do an ancestor report, I am getting several duplicates, and some
multiple duplicates of the same person. I understand one situation, where
brother and sister are both in my direct line of ancestors. But, the rest
of the occurrences, I don't know where to start to figure out what I have
done wrong. The individuals that are showing up again as duplicates are
only showing up once in my Name List. I realize this is not descriptive
enough to get help, but I'm hoping that someone will ask me specific
questions that will help clarify. I have no clue what is causing this.
Barbara Ford




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Re: [LegacyUG] Duplicates/Loop

2016-02-10 Thread Barbara Ford

Thanks, I didn't even know about that tool. I'll see if I can get to the bottom 
of it, using that tool.
Barbara




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> On Feb 10, 2016, at 12:06 PM, Brian/Support <br...@legacyfamilytree.com> 
> wrote:
>
> They are probably due to other places where you have multiple
> connections like that brother and sister. If you use Tools > Set
> Relationships using yourself as the starting person then go to those who
> are duplicated in your report you should see a + sign beside their
> displayed relationship. Right click on that + to see additional
> relationships and you will see how they are linked to you multiple times.
>
> I have some cousin marriages in my file (not in my direct line however)
> and it makes some people both my 3rd and fourth cousins.
>
> Brian
> Customer Support
> Millennia Corporation
> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
>> On 10/02/2016 12:42, Barbara Ford wrote:
>> When I do an ancestor report, I am getting several duplicates, and some
>> multiple duplicates of the same person. I understand one situation, where
>> brother and sister are both in my direct line of ancestors. But, the rest
>> of the occurrences, I don't know where to start to figure out what I have
>> done wrong. The individuals that are showing up again as duplicates are
>> only showing up once in my Name List. I realize this is not descriptive
>> enough to get help, but I'm hoping that someone will ask me specific
>> questions that will help clarify. I have no clue what is causing this.
>> Barbara Ford
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Duplicates/Loop

2016-02-10 Thread Barbara Ford

Brian, I used the tool to set relationships (it's actually my husband's
line, so I set him as the starting person). But I do not see a + sign to
right click on. I am looking on the Family screen; should I be somewhere
else?

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Brian/Support <br...@legacyfamilytree.com>
wrote:

> They are probably due to other places where you have multiple
> connections like that brother and sister. If you use Tools > Set
> Relationships using yourself as the starting person then go to those who
> are duplicated in your report you should see a + sign beside their
> displayed relationship. Right click on that + to see additional
> relationships and you will see how they are linked to you multiple times.
>
> I have some cousin marriages in my file (not in my direct line however)
> and it makes some people both my 3rd and fourth cousins.
>
> Brian
> Customer Support
> Millennia Corporation
> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
> On 10/02/2016 12:42, Barbara Ford wrote:
> > When I do an ancestor report, I am getting several duplicates, and some
> > multiple duplicates of the same person. I understand one situation, where
> > brother and sister are both in my direct line of ancestors. But, the rest
> > of the occurrences, I don't know where to start to figure out what I have
> > done wrong. The individuals that are showing up again as duplicates are
> > only showing up once in my Name List. I realize this is not descriptive
> > enough to get help, but I'm hoping that someone will ask me specific
> > questions that will help clarify. I have no clue what is causing this.
> > Barbara Ford
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Duplicates/Loop

2016-02-10 Thread Barbara Ford

Okay, I went to the "loop" that I know is right, and even there, there is
no + sign next to the relationship, above the name. Is it possible that it
is because I am using Legacy 6.0? Also, I fear it is more involved than
just multiple relationships...there are several cases, and they are being
processed multiple times, in some cases over 10 times.

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Brian/Support <br...@legacyfamilytree.com>
wrote:

> The + sign will only be there if the particular person has multiple
> relationships.
>
> It will be beside the relationship reported above their name. In my file
> when I am viewing one of those multiple connected cousins I see "3rd
> cousin +" for their relationship. When I right click and select show
> additional relationships a screen opens where I am on the left and that
> cousin is on the right. Above our names are the two common ancestors
> (one for the 3rd cousin link and another for the 4th cousin link). When
> I select either of those two ancestors Legacy shows the ancestors on my
> side between me and that ancestor and on the right it shows the
> descendants from that ancestor down to my 3rd or 4th cousin.
>
> Brian
> Customer Support
> Millennia Corporation
> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
> On 10/02/2016 15:31, Barbara Ford wrote:
> > Brian, I used the tool to set relationships (it's actually my husband's
> > line, so I set him as the starting person). But I do not see a + sign to
> > right click on. I am looking on the Family screen; should I be somewhere
> > else?
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Brian/Support <
> br...@legacyfamilytree.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> They are probably due to other places where you have multiple
> >> connections like that brother and sister. If you use Tools > Set
> >> Relationships using yourself as the starting person then go to those who
> >> are duplicated in your report you should see a + sign beside their
> >> displayed relationship. Right click on that + to see additional
> >> relationships and you will see how they are linked to you multiple
> times.
> >>
> >> I have some cousin marriages in my file (not in my direct line however)
> >> and it makes some people both my 3rd and fourth cousins.
> >>
> >> Brian
> >> Customer Support
> >> Millennia Corporation
> >> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
> >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
> >>
> >> On 10/02/2016 12:42, Barbara Ford wrote:
> >>> When I do an ancestor report, I am getting several duplicates, and some
> >>> multiple duplicates of the same person. I understand one situation,
> where
> >>> brother and sister are both in my direct line of ancestors. But, the
> rest
> >>> of the occurrences, I don't know where to start to figure out what I
> have
> >>> done wrong. The individuals that are showing up again as duplicates are
> >>> only showing up once in my Name List. I realize this is not descriptive
> >>> enough to get help, but I'm hoping that someone will ask me specific
> >>> questions that will help clarify. I have no clue what is causing this.
> >>> Barbara Ford
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Duplicates/Loop

2016-02-10 Thread Barbara Ford

Okay, thank you. I have used the Relationship Calculator many times in 6.0, but 
never thought to use it to research a looping problem.

I was new to Legacy when the first update came after 6.0. Some of the technical 
"talk" on the user group scared me off--I was barely understanding 6.0, without 
trying to think about "new" things and potential bugs. Then when I updated my 
computer to Windows 7, I had much, much difficulty getting my Legacy 6.0 to 
run. Once it was up and running successfully, I have been afraid to update 
Legacy. Now, I'm dreading Windows 10. So, I see the handwriting on the wall 
that I am going to have to update Legacy so that I can eventually succumb to 
the forced use of Windows 10. Going from Legacy 6.0, as a non-technical person, 
to the latest version of Legacy, am I going to have a nightmare? Will it work 
well with Windows 7? And am I right that I should do that first (updating 
Legacy) BEFORE I eventually go to Windows 10?
Barbara


> On Feb 10, 2016, at 3:58 PM, Brian/Support <br...@legacyfamilytree.com> wrote:
>
> Yes it is very significant that you are still using Legacy 6.0. Legacy
> 6.0 does not show Multiple relationships, only the closest is presented
> on the Family View. Multiple relationships started being displayed in
> Legacy 7.0.
>
> Legacy 6.0 does have a tool which will show multiple relationships though.
> Go to Tools > Relationship Calculator
> Select yourself on the left and the person with the looping problem on
> the right.
> Click Calculate Relationships to see something similar to what I
> described for Legacy 8.0
> I just noticed an error in the terminology in 6.0. I had a person on the
> right who was the wife of a great grandson. Legacy 6.0 reported she was
> the great grandson.
>
> Brian
> Customer Support
> Millennia Corporation
> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
>> On 10/02/2016 16:05, Barbara Ford wrote:
>> Okay, I went to the "loop" that I know is right, and even there, there is
>> no + sign next to the relationship, above the name. Is it possible that it
>> is because I am using Legacy 6.0? Also, I fear it is more involved than
>> just multiple relationships...there are several cases, and they are being
>> processed multiple times, in some cases over 10 times.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Brian/Support <br...@legacyfamilytree.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The + sign will only be there if the particular person has multiple
>>> relationships.
>>>
>>> It will be beside the relationship reported above their name. In my file
>>> when I am viewing one of those multiple connected cousins I see "3rd
>>> cousin +" for their relationship. When I right click and select show
>>> additional relationships a screen opens where I am on the left and that
>>> cousin is on the right. Above our names are the two common ancestors
>>> (one for the 3rd cousin link and another for the 4th cousin link). When
>>> I select either of those two ancestors Legacy shows the ancestors on my
>>> side between me and that ancestor and on the right it shows the
>>> descendants from that ancestor down to my 3rd or 4th cousin.
>>>
>>> Brian
>>> Customer Support
>>> Millennia Corporation
>>> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
>>> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>>>
>>>> On 10/02/2016 15:31, Barbara Ford wrote:
>>>> Brian, I used the tool to set relationships (it's actually my husband's
>>>> line, so I set him as the starting person). But I do not see a + sign to
>>>> right click on. I am looking on the Family screen; should I be somewhere
>>>> else?
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 12:06 PM, Brian/Support <
>>> br...@legacyfamilytree.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> They are probably due to other places where you have multiple
>>>>> connections like that brother and sister. If you use Tools > Set
>>>>> Relationships using yourself as the starting person then go to those who
>>>>> are duplicated in your report you should see a + sign beside their
>>>>> displayed relationship. Right click on that + to see additional
>>>>> relationships and you will see how they are linked to you multiple
>>> times.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have some cousin marriages in my file (not in my direct line however)
>>>>> and it makes some people both my 3rd and fourth cousins.
>>>>>
>>>>> Brian
>>>>> Customer Support
>>>>

Re: [LegacyUG] Duplicates/Loop

2016-02-10 Thread Barbara Ford


Very helpful information. If I dive in, I'm sure I'll have questions along the 
way.


> On Feb 10, 2016, at 9:10 PM, Robert57P_gmail <robert...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> fyi - my computer is running Windows 7, and it is so "old" (10 yrs) it
> won't run Windows 10.  But it runs just fine, I'm mostly happy with it
> (though I am starting to get "the itch" for a new one . . . )  My wife's
> computer is also running Win7.  I COULD upgrade her's, but for ease of
> consistency between the 2 systems I'm keeping her's at Win7 also.  So it
> really is your choice.  Yea, you probably have that "white window icon"
> in your system tray you can't get rid of, and probably get pop-ups
> reminding you to upgrade, but you can ignore them.  And you CAN get rid
> of that white window icon (and thus the reminder pop-ups) if you
> uninstall one of the service updates (sorry - I forget which one at the
> moment) - I did it on my wife's system.
>
> HOWEVER, if your computer will support Win10 you are probably "better"
> and "safer" to upgrade, especially while it is still free, just for the
> added security settings of Win10.  But you don't have to.  By the way -
> if you DO upgrade to WIN10, if you don' t like the new "start button"
> setup, try Classic Shell.
>
> http://www.classicshell.net/
>
> It is free and you can make the start button act like it used to under
> WinXP, Win7, etc.  (I MUCH prefer WinXP's start button.)  I've been
> using this for years and it works great and is very stable.
>
> As far as upgrading Legacy - I'd suggest you DO that.  Don't be scared
> by "new features".  Yes, there are some differences in the interface,
> but you can basically just keep using Legacy 8 just like Legacy 6
> without learning ALL the new "bells and whistles".  And by upgrading, if
> you have need of a new feature it is there for you. Plus version 8 is
> pretty stable by now.   Like Cathy said, you can install Legacy 8 and
> still keep Legacy 6.  So you can "play" with Legacy 8 and get used to
> it.  Just remember that they use different formats for their data
> files.  So make sure you use the SAME ONE ALL THE TIME for your family
> updates and just use the other for testing/learning/experimenting until
> you are ready.  Yes, you can convert (it actually makes a NEW copy) your
> Legacy 6 database to Legacy 8 format so you can see all of your existing
> family info when running Legacy 8.  But if you make a change to the
> Legacy 8 file you can NOT move that same change back to Legacy 6.  The
> conversion is one way.  Or, to put it another way:
>
> Legacy 6 - keep using it as is.  Continue to make your real changes here.
> Legacy 8 - install it, "convert" your Legacy 6 data file to Legacy 8.
> Play with Legacy 8, but make any real changes to your family tree with
> Legacy 6.
> Once you are happy with Legacy 8, "convert" your current legacy 6 data
> to Legacy 8 again, and then stick with Legacy 8 from then on.
>
> Bob
>
>> On 02/10/2016 21:08, Cathy Pinner wrote:
>> Barbara,
>>
>> No one is forcing you to go to Windows 10 from Windows 7. There are ways
>> to stop being offered Windows 10 but you probably need someone more
>> familiar with computers to implement them. If they don't know how, they
>> can Google it.
>>
>> Legacy 8 installs in a completely different place to Legacy 6 so you can
>> install the free version and have a look at it without changing anything
>> in your Legacy 6. Just choose during the install to open the Sample file
>> rather than your own file and you'll know that nothing has been changed
>> and you can keep using Legacy 6.
>>
>> To see your own file in Legacy 8, I think the most stress free so that
>> you are sure your Legacy 6 file is untouched, is to Restore a backup
>> file (you do make Legacy backup files don't you?) in Legacy 8.
>> File - Restore - navigate to where your Legacy backups are and choose
>> the most recent one and choose to Save it in Documents\Legacy Family
>> Tree\Data. To make doubly sure you know what it is, you could add an 8
>> to the name - that's what I do.  Documents\Legacy Family Tree\ folder is
>> created when you install Legacy 8. This folder can't be renamed or moved
>> for Legacy 8 to work as it has a folder in it that stores your Legacy
>> settings. Legacy will say that it needs to convert your file. Just say Yes.
>>
>> Don't be scared off new versions by talk on mailing lists. You might put
>> the move off for a month or two but serious bugs affecting lots of
>> people are dealt with quickly. Do you encounter bugs now? Legacy 6 has
>> he

Re: [LegacyUG] Duplicates/Loop

2016-02-10 Thread Barbara Ford

One question already: in 6.0, all the data is stored in the Legacy folder, 
which on my computer resides directly on C:\. Is that also where the data is 
stored (default) on 8? If I wanted to go cold turkey from 6 to 8, do I download 
8 from the website, or do I have to buy it? Once installed, can I open my 
family file from the Legacy folder on C:\ and then go from there in the same 
way as I have used 6?

> On Feb 10, 2016, at 9:10 PM, Robert57P_gmail <robert...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> fyi - my computer is running Windows 7, and it is so "old" (10 yrs) it
> won't run Windows 10.  But it runs just fine, I'm mostly happy with it
> (though I am starting to get "the itch" for a new one . . . )  My wife's
> computer is also running Win7.  I COULD upgrade her's, but for ease of
> consistency between the 2 systems I'm keeping her's at Win7 also.  So it
> really is your choice.  Yea, you probably have that "white window icon"
> in your system tray you can't get rid of, and probably get pop-ups
> reminding you to upgrade, but you can ignore them.  And you CAN get rid
> of that white window icon (and thus the reminder pop-ups) if you
> uninstall one of the service updates (sorry - I forget which one at the
> moment) - I did it on my wife's system.
>
> HOWEVER, if your computer will support Win10 you are probably "better"
> and "safer" to upgrade, especially while it is still free, just for the
> added security settings of Win10.  But you don't have to.  By the way -
> if you DO upgrade to WIN10, if you don' t like the new "start button"
> setup, try Classic Shell.
>
> http://www.classicshell.net/
>
> It is free and you can make the start button act like it used to under
> WinXP, Win7, etc.  (I MUCH prefer WinXP's start button.)  I've been
> using this for years and it works great and is very stable.
>
> As far as upgrading Legacy - I'd suggest you DO that.  Don't be scared
> by "new features".  Yes, there are some differences in the interface,
> but you can basically just keep using Legacy 8 just like Legacy 6
> without learning ALL the new "bells and whistles".  And by upgrading, if
> you have need of a new feature it is there for you. Plus version 8 is
> pretty stable by now.   Like Cathy said, you can install Legacy 8 and
> still keep Legacy 6.  So you can "play" with Legacy 8 and get used to
> it.  Just remember that they use different formats for their data
> files.  So make sure you use the SAME ONE ALL THE TIME for your family
> updates and just use the other for testing/learning/experimenting until
> you are ready.  Yes, you can convert (it actually makes a NEW copy) your
> Legacy 6 database to Legacy 8 format so you can see all of your existing
> family info when running Legacy 8.  But if you make a change to the
> Legacy 8 file you can NOT move that same change back to Legacy 6.  The
> conversion is one way.  Or, to put it another way:
>
> Legacy 6 - keep using it as is.  Continue to make your real changes here.
> Legacy 8 - install it, "convert" your Legacy 6 data file to Legacy 8.
> Play with Legacy 8, but make any real changes to your family tree with
> Legacy 6.
> Once you are happy with Legacy 8, "convert" your current legacy 6 data
> to Legacy 8 again, and then stick with Legacy 8 from then on.
>
> Bob
>
>> On 02/10/2016 21:08, Cathy Pinner wrote:
>> Barbara,
>>
>> No one is forcing you to go to Windows 10 from Windows 7. There are ways
>> to stop being offered Windows 10 but you probably need someone more
>> familiar with computers to implement them. If they don't know how, they
>> can Google it.
>>
>> Legacy 8 installs in a completely different place to Legacy 6 so you can
>> install the free version and have a look at it without changing anything
>> in your Legacy 6. Just choose during the install to open the Sample file
>> rather than your own file and you'll know that nothing has been changed
>> and you can keep using Legacy 6.
>>
>> To see your own file in Legacy 8, I think the most stress free so that
>> you are sure your Legacy 6 file is untouched, is to Restore a backup
>> file (you do make Legacy backup files don't you?) in Legacy 8.
>> File - Restore - navigate to where your Legacy backups are and choose
>> the most recent one and choose to Save it in Documents\Legacy Family
>> Tree\Data. To make doubly sure you know what it is, you could add an 8
>> to the name - that's what I do.  Documents\Legacy Family Tree\ folder is
>> created when you install Legacy 8. This folder can't be renamed or moved
>> for Legacy 8 to work as it has a folder in it that stores your Legacy
>> settings. L

Re: [LegacyUG] Help, please

2016-01-25 Thread Barbara Ford

Your explanation is helping me "get there" in my understanding. Here is the way 
I described the "two ways to access" in an earlier post here:

> It almost seems to me like there are two ways to access Legacy on my laptop: 
> one, the Legacy 6.0 icon, which when hovering over, says, Location: Legacy 
> (C:\Legacy) and then there is this link that is there that I have never 
> knowingly used, that is labeled familytreewip.fdb but when hovering over says 
> Type: Legacy Genealogy Software, 12.7 MB, and has today's date as the date 
> modified (because I opened Legacy with that icon awhile ago when I realized 
> it was there).

The one I refer to as having gotten there without my knowledge is not a 
shortcut. And I do believe it got there as you describe here.

Through the years, I always opened Legacy by clicking on my desktop shortcut 
(what I call the Legacy Icon) to the program. I have opened it many times 
through the time I wasn't doing active research, to reference something mainly, 
and within the last three years to add the death information about three of our 
parents. It always saved on the fly, as I exited, and I additionally chose to 
Backup as I exited, when given the choice, and that's when I back up to a zip 
file, stored in My Documents, but I have never used any of those zip files. It 
always opened up with everything having been saved, until I apparently 
inadvertently opened it from that "stray" copy of the file.

Once I get the right one open (which I expect will be correct except for my FIL 
death information, which I can easily re-input), do I understand correctly that 
I should double check to make sure the family file is being saved in 
C:\Legacy\Data and then is it safe to delete that one I refer to as "stray" 
(the one that says familytreewip.fdb)?

Barbara

Sent from my iPad

> On Jan 25, 2016, at 8:57 AM, Jenny M Benson <ge...@cedarbank.me.uk> wrote:
>
>> On 25/01/2016 14:07, Barbara Ford wrote:
>> So, asking a simplistic basic question here, as I try to figure out
>> how this happened, and before I take my nervous self to the computer
>> this morning to try to "fix" this: Does it appear that I in effect
>> have two installations of Legacy on my computer (one that I access
>> through the Legacy icon, the one I THOUGHT I always used), and the
>> other that somehow showed up as a link on my desktop that I must have
>> used to access the program at least once, like three days ago when I
>> input my FIL information). Because if it's just two ways to access
>> the same program, why wouldn't it save all the data, no matter which
>> location I accessed the program from?
>
>
> You probably don't have two installations of Legacy, just two copies of
> your Family File.  If you double-click on a Family File in Windows
> Explorer or on the Desktop Legacy will open and show that file.  You
> could have several copies of the same Family File stored in different
> places and double-clicking any of them would open the program with that
> particular copy of the file showing.  When you are working on the file,
> the data you enter will be automatically saved to that same file,
> wherever it is saved.
>
> You have used several different terms for what is stored on your
> desktop.  What you are seeing could be a Family File, could be a folder
> containing a Family File (I don't think it is), or could be a shortcut
> to a Family File which is stored somewhere else on your computer. If it
> was a shortcut the icon would include a little curved arrow.
>
> It is most likely a copy of your Family File.  A likely way it ended up
> on your desktop is that you maybe had some computer trouble at some time
> and someone (you or a helper) copied your family file to the desktop so
> it would be "safe" and not get removed while work was being done to fix
> your computer.
>
> Back a few years when you were regularly using Legacy, how did you open
> the program and your Family File?  I expect you either opened the Legacy
> program and your Family File was loaded automatically, or you located
> the Family File and double-clicked on it.  That's fine!  But if at some
> time recently you opened the program by double-clicking on a Family File
> stored on your desktop, Legacy might have "remembered" that and opened
> the same file next time.  That depends on how your options are set up,
> but many people have Legacy set up to automatically load the last Family
> File they worked on.
>
> I hope this clarifies the situation for you.
> --
> Jenny M Benson
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Help, please

2016-01-25 Thread Barbara Ford

So, asking a simplistic basic question here, as I try to figure out how this 
happened, and before I take my nervous self to the computer this morning to try 
to "fix" this: Does it appear that I in effect have two installations of Legacy 
on my computer (one that I access through the Legacy icon, the one I THOUGHT I 
always used), and the other that somehow showed up as a link on my desktop that 
I must have used to access the program at least once, like three days ago when 
I input my FIL information). Because if it's just two ways to access the same 
program, why wouldn't it save all the data, no matter which location I accessed 
the program from?




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> On Jan 24, 2016, at 6:54 PM, Cathy Pinner <genea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Barbara,
>
> One way to check whether any recent data has been added to the file in
> Legacy\Data is to do a search on the modified Date
> Search - Find - Detailed Search Tab
> Individual - Modified Date - after - [enter your date here]
> Apart from the people you've been looking at to see what is going on, if
> you've exited them with Save rather than Cancel, this will show if
> you've been using this file to add data in the last couple of years.
>
> You can do the same search on the file in the Desktop Folder.
>
> If apart from this week everyone changed are in the same file, then I'd
> use that and just re-add your sad losses.
>
> If you can avoid even an Intellishare merge, you'll save time.
>
> One way the file may have got on the desktop is that you unzipped one of
> your backup files.
> The proper way to access a backup is to use Legacy - File - Restore.
>
> Cathy
>> Barbara Ford <mailto:pastors...@gmail.com>
>> Monday, 25 January 2016 7:53 AM
>> Okay, have a couple of pieces of information to work with now, so will
>> see if I can get a handle on this! Thanks!
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Help, please

2016-01-25 Thread Barbara Ford

Wow, that makes sense, also, Brian. Let me just say a huge thanks to all
who helped me on this. Although I am not certain which of the possible ways
the "stray" file got on my desktop, I have it all resolved now. Thankfully,
attempting to print a chart from Charting Companion yesterday made me aware
that there was even "such a thing" as more than one file. I am 99.9% (and
that's good enough for me) that the only time I opened that stray file was
when I input my FIL death info. Therefore, I went into Legacy and told it
to open the file from C:\Legacy\Data, and everything was there EXCEPT my
FIL death info. I made sure that C:\Legacy\Data is set as the default
location for my family file. With that file open, I re-input the FIL info.
I chose to backup to .zip, as I always do when exiting. I then deleted the
.zip files from the previous three days, and I deleted that evil stray
file, con mucho gusto. I am so glad I figured out what was happening before
I had two files that needed to be merged. To answer my own question at the
beginning of these many posts, what in the world made me think I could use
a robust software program like Legacy? It's only because there are
brilliant people out there (in this group) who are willing to hold the hand
of someone like myself. Thank you, all.

On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Brian/Support <br...@legacyfamilytree.com>
wrote:

> Another possibility Jenny does not mention for what is on your desktop.
> When windows added the ability to access .zip condensed files Microsoft
> decided to treat all .zip files as folders. In one of the many posts
> about this problem I think Barbara mentioned that the item on her
> desktop was a folder with her family file name. That "folder" could be a
> backup familyfile.zip file which would be one of her backups but would
> not necessarily be the most recent backup.
>
> If she opened the family file she found inside the folder of the same
> name then Windows did two things:
>
> 1. Windows unzipped the condensed file from the .zip "folder" to make it
> a full .fdb file.
> 2. This extracted family file would be stored in a Windows temp folder
> and that is where Legacy would be told the file was located.
>
> Both of these steps would be done in the background with no warning to
> the user. All the edits Barbara did on that file in the temporary
> windows folder would only be recorded in that file. Windows is not smart
> enough to update the content of that .zip folder on the desktop with the
> revised copy of the Family file when Barbara finished the edits so now
> the family file in the temp folder is the only file with her edits. If
> Barbara did a new backup of her family file that would be stored in
> familyfile.zip with the date of her Legacy session but unless she also
> stored that on her desktop it is in an unknown folder, possibly even in
> the temp folder where the unzipped file she opened is located.
>
> Every time Barbara opened the family file inside that backup "folder"
> She would see the original data without the edits she had made in
> earlier sessions.
>
> This is one of the common reasons why people report that Legacy has
> "lost" the changes they made.
>
> I do have Barbara's original email and will be responding to her
> directly once I have had time to analyse her somewhat confusing message.
>
> Brian
> Customer Support
> Millennia Corporation
> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
> On 25/01/2016 09:57, Jenny M Benson wrote:
> > On 25/01/2016 14:07, Barbara Ford wrote:
> >> So, asking a simplistic basic question here, as I try to figure out
> >> how this happened, and before I take my nervous self to the computer
> >> this morning to try to "fix" this: Does it appear that I in effect
> >> have two installations of Legacy on my computer (one that I access
> >> through the Legacy icon, the one I THOUGHT I always used), and the
> >> other that somehow showed up as a link on my desktop that I must have
> >> used to access the program at least once, like three days ago when I
> >> input my FIL information). Because if it's just two ways to access
> >> the same program, why wouldn't it save all the data, no matter which
> >> location I accessed the program from?
> >
> >
> > You probably don't have two installations of Legacy, just two copies of
> > your Family File.  If you double-click on a Family File in Windows
> > Explorer or on the Desktop Legacy will open and show that file.  You
> > could have several copies of the same Family File stored in different
> > places and double-clicking any of them would open the program with that
> > particul

Re: [LegacyUG] Help, please

2016-01-25 Thread Barbara Ford

Thanks. Sorry my messages were so confusing.


Sent from iPhone

> On Jan 25, 2016, at 10:03 AM, Brian/Support <br...@legacyfamilytree.com> 
> wrote:
>
> I guess that means I do not have to respond to your original message. I
> am so glad you were able to sort out your problem.
>
> Brian
> Customer Support
> Millennia Corporation
> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>
>> On 25/01/2016 10:51, Barbara Ford wrote:
>> Wow, that makes sense, also, Brian. Let me just say a huge thanks to all
>> who helped me on this. Although I am not certain which of the possible ways
>> the "stray" file got on my desktop, I have it all resolved now. Thankfully,
>> attempting to print a chart from Charting Companion yesterday made me aware
>> that there was even "such a thing" as more than one file. I am 99.9% (and
>> that's good enough for me) that the only time I opened that stray file was
>> when I input my FIL death info. Therefore, I went into Legacy and told it
>> to open the file from C:\Legacy\Data, and everything was there EXCEPT my
>> FIL death info. I made sure that C:\Legacy\Data is set as the default
>> location for my family file. With that file open, I re-input the FIL info.
>> I chose to backup to .zip, as I always do when exiting. I then deleted the
>> .zip files from the previous three days, and I deleted that evil stray
>> file, con mucho gusto. I am so glad I figured out what was happening before
>> I had two files that needed to be merged. To answer my own question at the
>> beginning of these many posts, what in the world made me think I could use
>> a robust software program like Legacy? It's only because there are
>> brilliant people out there (in this group) who are willing to hold the hand
>> of someone like myself. Thank you, all.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Brian/Support <br...@legacyfamilytree.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Another possibility Jenny does not mention for what is on your desktop.
>>> When windows added the ability to access .zip condensed files Microsoft
>>> decided to treat all .zip files as folders. In one of the many posts
>>> about this problem I think Barbara mentioned that the item on her
>>> desktop was a folder with her family file name. That "folder" could be a
>>> backup familyfile.zip file which would be one of her backups but would
>>> not necessarily be the most recent backup.
>>>
>>> If she opened the family file she found inside the folder of the same
>>> name then Windows did two things:
>>>
>>> 1. Windows unzipped the condensed file from the .zip "folder" to make it
>>> a full .fdb file.
>>> 2. This extracted family file would be stored in a Windows temp folder
>>> and that is where Legacy would be told the file was located.
>>>
>>> Both of these steps would be done in the background with no warning to
>>> the user. All the edits Barbara did on that file in the temporary
>>> windows folder would only be recorded in that file. Windows is not smart
>>> enough to update the content of that .zip folder on the desktop with the
>>> revised copy of the Family file when Barbara finished the edits so now
>>> the family file in the temp folder is the only file with her edits. If
>>> Barbara did a new backup of her family file that would be stored in
>>> familyfile.zip with the date of her Legacy session but unless she also
>>> stored that on her desktop it is in an unknown folder, possibly even in
>>> the temp folder where the unzipped file she opened is located.
>>>
>>> Every time Barbara opened the family file inside that backup "folder"
>>> She would see the original data without the edits she had made in
>>> earlier sessions.
>>>
>>> This is one of the common reasons why people report that Legacy has
>>> "lost" the changes they made.
>>>
>>> I do have Barbara's original email and will be responding to her
>>> directly once I have had time to analyse her somewhat confusing message.
>>>
>>> Brian
>>> Customer Support
>>> Millennia Corporation
>>> br...@legacyfamilytree.com
>>> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
>>>
>>>> On 25/01/2016 09:57, Jenny M Benson wrote:
>>>>> On 25/01/2016 14:07, Barbara Ford wrote:
>>>>> So, asking a simplistic basic question here, as I try to figure out
>>>>> how this happened, and before I take my nervous self to the computer
>>>>>

Re: [LegacyUG] Help, please

2016-01-24 Thread Barbara Ford

Thank you, Cathy. Good information. No, I have never unzipped one of those back 
up files.


Sent from iPhone

> On Jan 24, 2016, at 6:54 PM, Cathy Pinner <genea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Barbara,
>
> One way to check whether any recent data has been added to the file in
> Legacy\Data is to do a search on the modified Date
> Search - Find - Detailed Search Tab
> Individual - Modified Date - after - [enter your date here]
> Apart from the people you've been looking at to see what is going on, if
> you've exited them with Save rather than Cancel, this will show if
> you've been using this file to add data in the last couple of years.
>
> You can do the same search on the file in the Desktop Folder.
>
> If apart from this week everyone changed are in the same file, then I'd
> use that and just re-add your sad losses.
>
> If you can avoid even an Intellishare merge, you'll save time.
>
> One way the file may have got on the desktop is that you unzipped one of
> your backup files.
> The proper way to access a backup is to use Legacy - File - Restore.
>
> Cathy
>> Barbara Ford <mailto:pastors...@gmail.com>
>> Monday, 25 January 2016 7:53 AM
>> Okay, have a couple of pieces of information to work with now, so will
>> see if I can get a handle on this! Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>>
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[LegacyUG] Help, please

2016-01-24 Thread Barbara Ford


I have been using Legacy for years, and although still using version 6.0, 
because I haven't done any serious research work since I was using that 
version, I thought I was very "on" to how the backups work. In my mind, there 
is an "on the fly" backup that puts data in C:\Legacy\Data\familytreewip.fdb 
(with familytreewip being the "name" of my data). Then when I exit the program, 
when it prompts me to back up, I also do that, and that is a zip file that I 
keep in my documents folder. In the last three years, while I have not been 
actively involved in research, we have lost three of our parents, and I have 
updated Legacy with all that information. Today I have discovered that the data 
has been going to different places (do not understand how that could have 
happened). I discovered it (and maybe this will help with troubleshooting) when 
I tried to use Legacy Charting Companion and it wasn't bringing in the death 
information from Legacy, just posted a couple of days ago. I have now figured 
out that there is a familytreewip.fdb folder on my desktop. Some of the data I 
have entered in the last three years is there (visible when I open Legacy from 
that file), and when I go to C:\Legacy\Data\familytreewip.fdb, the most recent 
data is NOT there (and therefore not coming in to Charting Companion). Once I 
open Legacy from one location or the other, it opens it back up from there the 
next time I open Legacy. So, now there is one "version" of Legacy that has 
recent death information, and then the one out on C:\Legacy has data updated 
two years ago. I do not know what to do, and right after the death of my 
father-in-law is NOT a good time for me to realize something is wrong. Mainly, 
I don't know how to bring it together, and I don't know how to tell where it is 
actually going when I exit NOW. I do periodically copy the contents of 
c:\Legacy\Data to an external hard drive, and I have done that fairly recently. 
But even if I open the Legacy program from there, and discover that the only 
thing I have to re-input is my father-in-law's death information, I'm so 
confused now about where it all goes when I exit. I guess my main confusion is 
why it is sometimes going to the desktop file (and why is it even there?) and 
not to C:\Legacy. I am so sorry to be so unclear, but can anyone help me? I'm 
not so concerned about the Charting Companion--that's just what helped me 
discover that data is not going where I thought it was, when exiting.
Barbara Ford


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Re: [LegacyUG] Help, please

2016-01-24 Thread Barbara Ford

Oh dear. I am even more confused. Even though I have been using computers since 
the mid-80's and consider myself fairly tech savvy, sometimes I wonder what 
made me think I could successfully use and understand a program so robust as 
Legacy. I want to be very careful with what I do next, because I believe all my 
data was intact and in the places where I expected it to be just prior to 
entering the death information about my father-in-law a couple of days ago. So, 
I think that maybe if I ask my questions one at a time, I will better be able 
to understand what I need to do to move forward with a clear understanding (and 
if I need to manually re-enter the info about my FIL, that's no big deal). So, 
once I open the file that was up to date prior to the FIL data, THAT is the way 
I would want to save it, going forward.

I'm not even sure if I am making sense. But, at the foundational level, I need 
to know if what I have understood (and has worked for me) for years is correct 
(for v 6):
I understood that Legacy saves data on the fly (while I am working and when I 
exit), automatically. It was my understanding that data saves in c:\Legacy\Data 
and that within that folder, the file is familytreewip.fdb. IN ADDITION to 
that, and as an extra precaution, when I exit, I am asked if I want to backup. 
I always understood that to be EXTRA backup--it is at that point that I name 
the file and point it to My Documents folder, and I name it with the date; it 
is a zip file. So, first I need to know if those two things are correct. (I 
have made myself a note, years ago, that if I ever need to reinstall Legacy, it 
would know to look on C:\Legacy for my data. That has always worked for me.)

Meanwhile, I do not know how or when, there is a link on my desktop that I 
believe is basically a shortcut to my data, as when I right click on it, it 
says familytreewip.fdb. (A few years ago, when I had trouble getting Legacy 6 
to work with my new Windows 7, someone in this group helped meit may have 
been in that process that the link got put on my desktop. I have never used it 
to open Legacy--I have always used the software icon, to my knowledge.)

It almost seems to me like there are two ways to access Legacy on my laptop: 
one, the Legacy 6.0 icon, which when hovering over, says, Location: Legacy 
(C:\Legacy) and then there is this link that is there that I have never 
knowingly used, that is labeled familytreewip.fdb but when hovering over says 
Type: Legacy Genealogy Software, 12.7 MB, and has today's date as the date 
modified (because I opened Legacy with that icon awhile ago when I realized it 
was there).

While in Charting Companion, noticing that it was not using the most recent 
data about my FIL, I saw a reference to two locations for the data, one being 
my desktop.

So now, if I open Legacy by clicking on the desktop link, it does have the most 
recent info about my FIL's death, but it does not have the information about my 
mother's death, two years ago.

I do not want to merge data or do anything extreme, because I think all was 
well until entering FIL's data a couple of days ago. So, I could open the file 
from the C:\Legacy\Data location of the file, and then manually re-enter the 
FIL data. BUT before I do that, I need to understand where my data is going 
(how to I find the default location for my file), and I would then want to make 
sure I never use that desktop link again.

I am so sorry that I cannot seem to express my question in a concise and 
reasonable manner. I so appreciate everyone's efforts to help me, I just don't 
like using something that I don't have at least a rudimentary grasp on how it 
works, in terms of data safety. I thought I had it, but sure don't understand 
what just happened!

If anyone is brave enough to jump into my confusion again, I do truly 
appreciate it.
Barbara

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> On Jan 24, 2016, at 2:45 PM, R G Strong-genes <rgstrongge...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Barbara,
> Is the one on the desktop a folder or is it a link to your data folder? If
> it actually a folder with just the familytreewip.fdb and user files
> associated with that family file and it has the most current file
> information then you can just copy all those files to your Data folder for
> Legacy. Then open legacy and search for the file you want to open. Then
> check your Legacy options and specify how you want to open legacy. It is
> probably set to open the last file opened. When you are working on Legacy
> the changes are always in the file you are working on where ever it is
> located. So when it closes if it doesn't ask for a backup it will be the
> same folder that you opened it from, if you happen to have that file in a
> different folder and open it from that folder you will not see the changes
> as they are actually in a different file. When you back up a file either by
> requesting a backup or when you close and

Re: [LegacyUG] Help, please

2016-01-24 Thread Barbara Ford

Maybe I can simplify by asking this question: Where do I look (in Legacy) to 
see where my data is going? I want it to go to C:\Legacy\Data. And then can I 
safely delete that "stray" link on my desktop? I only want ONE way to access 
Legacy.
Barbara


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> On Jan 24, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Barbara Ford <pastors...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Oh dear. I am even more confused. Even though I have been using computers 
> since the mid-80's and consider myself fairly tech savvy, sometimes I wonder 
> what made me think I could successfully use and understand a program so 
> robust as Legacy. I want to be very careful with what I do next, because I 
> believe all my data was intact and in the places where I expected it to be 
> just prior to entering the death information about my father-in-law a couple 
> of days ago. So, I think that maybe if I ask my questions one at a time, I 
> will better be able to understand what I need to do to move forward with a 
> clear understanding (and if I need to manually re-enter the info about my 
> FIL, that's no big deal). So, once I open the file that was up to date prior 
> to the FIL data, THAT is the way I would want to save it, going forward.
>
> I'm not even sure if I am making sense. But, at the foundational level, I 
> need to know if what I have understood (and has worked for me) for years is 
> correct (for v 6):
> I understood that Legacy saves data on the fly (while I am working and when I 
> exit), automatically. It was my understanding that data saves in 
> c:\Legacy\Data and that within that folder, the file is familytreewip.fdb. IN 
> ADDITION to that, and as an extra precaution, when I exit, I am asked if I 
> want to backup. I always understood that to be EXTRA backup--it is at that 
> point that I name the file and point it to My Documents folder, and I name it 
> with the date; it is a zip file. So, first I need to know if those two things 
> are correct. (I have made myself a note, years ago, that if I ever need to 
> reinstall Legacy, it would know to look on C:\Legacy for my data. That has 
> always worked for me.)
>
> Meanwhile, I do not know how or when, there is a link on my desktop that I 
> believe is basically a shortcut to my data, as when I right click on it, it 
> says familytreewip.fdb. (A few years ago, when I had trouble getting Legacy 6 
> to work with my new Windows 7, someone in this group helped meit may have 
> been in that process that the link got put on my desktop. I have never used 
> it to open Legacy--I have always used the software icon, to my knowledge.)
>
> It almost seems to me like there are two ways to access Legacy on my laptop: 
> one, the Legacy 6.0 icon, which when hovering over, says, Location: Legacy 
> (C:\Legacy) and then there is this link that is there that I have never 
> knowingly used, that is labeled familytreewip.fdb but when hovering over says 
> Type: Legacy Genealogy Software, 12.7 MB, and has today's date as the date 
> modified (because I opened Legacy with that icon awhile ago when I realized 
> it was there).
>
> While in Charting Companion, noticing that it was not using the most recent 
> data about my FIL, I saw a reference to two locations for the data, one being 
> my desktop.
>
> So now, if I open Legacy by clicking on the desktop link, it does have the 
> most recent info about my FIL's death, but it does not have the information 
> about my mother's death, two years ago.
>
> I do not want to merge data or do anything extreme, because I think all was 
> well until entering FIL's data a couple of days ago. So, I could open the 
> file from the C:\Legacy\Data location of the file, and then manually re-enter 
> the FIL data. BUT before I do that, I need to understand where my data is 
> going (how to I find the default location for my file), and I would then want 
> to make sure I never use that desktop link again.
>
> I am so sorry that I cannot seem to express my question in a concise and 
> reasonable manner. I so appreciate everyone's efforts to help me, I just 
> don't like using something that I don't have at least a rudimentary grasp on 
> how it works, in terms of data safety. I thought I had it, but sure don't 
> understand what just happened!
>
> If anyone is brave enough to jump into my confusion again, I do truly 
> appreciate it.
> Barbara
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Jan 24, 2016, at 2:45 PM, R G Strong-genes <rgstrongge...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Barbara,
>> Is the one on the desktop a folder or is it a link to your data folder? If
>> it actually a folder with just the familytreewip.fdb and user files
>> associated with that family file and it has the most current file
>> inform

Re: [LegacyUG] Help, please

2016-01-24 Thread Barbara Ford

Thank you. After I work with these suggestions, I'll post my further
questions.

On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 5:42 PM, R G Strong-genes <rgstrongge...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Barbara,
> With Legacy open you can find out where your file is stored. Open the file
> menu and at the bottom it will show a list of recently opened files and
> their path. You can also open the About Legacy and the General tab and it
> will also under file information it will show the Family File Folder and
> the Legacy Folder for the file that is open. To set the Default location of
> family files go to Options then goto the Locations tab and you can set the
> locations on that screen.
>
> Once you have the correct file be it the one on the desktop or the file in
> the data folder you can do either:
> If it is the one on the desktop then do File> Save Family File as and save
> it to your Data folder with a new name or the same name.
> If it is the one in the data folder then you are ok. If this file is
> current then you are done and can delete the one on the desktop. If not
> then you can do the merge as I instructed in the previous email. If you
> don’t want to merge then you may have to re enter the data.
>
>
> *From:* Barbara Ford <pastors...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 24, 2016 5:35 PM
> *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Help, please
>
> Maybe I can simplify by asking this question: Where do I look (in Legacy)
> to see where my data is going? I want it to go to C:\Legacy\Data. And then
> can I safely delete that "stray" link on my desktop? I only want ONE way to
> access Legacy.
> Barbara
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jan 24, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Barbara Ford <pastors...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Oh dear. I am even more confused. Even though I have been using computers
> since the mid-80's and consider myself fairly tech savvy, sometimes I
> wonder what made me think I could successfully use and understand a program
> so robust as Legacy. I want to be very careful with what I do next, because
> I believe all my data was intact and in the places where I expected it to
> be just prior to entering the death information about my father-in-law a
> couple of days ago. So, I think that maybe if I ask my questions one at a
> time, I will better be able to understand what I need to do to move forward
> with a clear understanding (and if I need to manually re-enter the info
> about my FIL, that's no big deal). So, once I open the file that was up to
> date prior to the FIL data, THAT is the way I would want to save it, going
> forward.
>
> I'm not even sure if I am making sense. But, at the foundational level, I
> need to know if what I have understood (and has worked for me) for years is
> correct (for v 6):
> I understood that Legacy saves data on the fly (while I am working and
> when I exit), automatically. It was my understanding that data saves in
> c:\Legacy\Data and that within that folder, the file is familytreewip.fdb.
> IN ADDITION to that, and as an extra precaution, when I exit, I am asked if
> I want to backup. I always understood that to be EXTRA backup--it is at
> that point that I name the file and point it to My Documents folder, and I
> name it with the date; it is a zip file. So, first I need to know if those
> two things are correct. (I have made myself a note, years ago, that if I
> ever need to reinstall Legacy, it would know to look on C:\Legacy for my
> data. That has always worked for me.)
>
> Meanwhile, I do not know how or when, there is a link on my desktop that I
> believe is basically a shortcut to my data, as when I right click on it, it
> says familytreewip.fdb. (A few years ago, when I had trouble getting Legacy
> 6 to work with my new Windows 7, someone in this group helped meit may
> have been in that process that the link got put on my desktop. I have never
> used it to open Legacy--I have always used the software icon, to my
> knowledge.)
>
> It almost seems to me like there are two ways to access Legacy on my
> laptop: one, the Legacy 6.0 icon, which when hovering over, says, Location:
> Legacy (C:\Legacy) and then there is this link that is there that I have
> never knowingly used, that is labeled familytreewip.fdb but when hovering
> over says Type: Legacy Genealogy Software, 12.7 MB, and has today's date as
> the date modified (because I opened Legacy with that icon awhile ago when I
> realized it was there).
>
> While in Charting Companion, noticing that it was not using the most
> recent data about my FIL, I saw a reference to two locations for the data,
> one being my desktop.
>
> So now, if I open Legacy by clicking on the desktop link, it does have the
> most recent info a

Re: [LegacyUG] Help, please

2016-01-24 Thread Barbara Ford

Okay, have a couple of pieces of information to work with now, so will see
if I can get a handle on this! Thanks!

On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Henry T. Peterson Jr. <hpete...@cox.net>
wrote:

> *Barbara*
>
>
>
> *Go to Options-Customize*
>
> *Choose Locations Tab*
>
> *Next  Look at the Default Location of family files*
>
>
>
> *THAT is where to file you are using should be located.*
>
> *This if from Legacy 7.5 (which I believe is the same as in Version 6.0)*
>
>
>
> *Move **the most up to date file** to that location using file manager.*
>
>
>
> *Good luck*
>
> *Henry*
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Barbara Ford [mailto:pastors...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 24, 2016 4:35 PM
> *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Help, please
>
>
>
> Maybe I can simplify by asking this question: Where do I look (in Legacy)
> to see where my data is going? I want it to go to C:\Legacy\Data. And then
> can I safely delete that "stray" link on my desktop? I only want ONE way to
> access Legacy.
>
> Barbara
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>
> On Jan 24, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Barbara Ford <pastors...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Oh dear. I am even more confused. Even though I have been using computers
> since the mid-80's and consider myself fairly tech savvy, sometimes I
> wonder what made me think I could successfully use and understand a program
> so robust as Legacy. I want to be very careful with what I do next, because
> I believe all my data was intact and in the places where I expected it to
> be just prior to entering the death information about my father-in-law a
> couple of days ago. So, I think that maybe if I ask my questions one at a
> time, I will better be able to understand what I need to do to move forward
> with a clear understanding (and if I need to manually re-enter the info
> about my FIL, that's no big deal). So, once I open the file that was up to
> date prior to the FIL data, THAT is the way I would want to save it, going
> forward.
>
>
>
> I'm not even sure if I am making sense. But, at the foundational level, I
> need to know if what I have understood (and has worked for me) for years is
> correct (for v 6):
>
> I understood that Legacy saves data on the fly (while I am working and
> when I exit), automatically. It was my understanding that data saves in
> c:\Legacy\Data and that within that folder, the file is familytreewip.fdb.
> IN ADDITION to that, and as an extra precaution, when I exit, I am asked if
> I want to backup. I always understood that to be EXTRA backup--it is at
> that point that I name the file and point it to My Documents folder, and I
> name it with the date; it is a zip file. So, first I need to know if those
> two things are correct. (I have made myself a note, years ago, that if I
> ever need to reinstall Legacy, it would know to look on C:\Legacy for my
> data. That has always worked for me.)
>
>
>
> Meanwhile, I do not know how or when, there is a link on my desktop that I
> believe is basically a shortcut to my data, as when I right click on it, it
> says familytreewip.fdb. (A few years ago, when I had trouble getting Legacy
> 6 to work with my new Windows 7, someone in this group helped meit may
> have been in that process that the link got put on my desktop. I have never
> used it to open Legacy--I have always used the software icon, to my
> knowledge.)
>
>
>
> It almost seems to me like there are two ways to access Legacy on my
> laptop: one, the Legacy 6.0 icon, which when hovering over, says, Location:
> Legacy (C:\Legacy) and then there is this link that is there that I have
> never knowingly used, that is labeled familytreewip.fdb but when hovering
> over says Type: Legacy Genealogy Software, 12.7 MB, and has today's date as
> the date modified (because I opened Legacy with that icon awhile ago when I
> realized it was there).
>
>
>
> While in Charting Companion, noticing that it was not using the most
> recent data about my FIL, I saw a reference to two locations for the data,
> one being my desktop.
>
>
>
> So now, if I open Legacy by clicking on the desktop link, it does have the
> most recent info about my FIL's death, but it does not have the information
> about my mother's death, two years ago.
>
>
>
> I do not want to merge data or do anything extreme, because I think all
> was well until entering FIL's data a couple of days ago. So, I could open
> the file from the C:\Legacy\Data location of the file, and then manually
> re-enter the FIL data. BUT before I do that, I need to understand where my
> data is going (how to I find the default location for

Re: [LegacyUG] Linking people to events

2016-01-01 Thread Barbara Levergood

While not exactly what you are describing, TMG has the following
features. (A TMG tag is the equivalent of Legacy's Event/Fact.) Legacy
also has timelines.

"A history tag differs from a regular event tag in that there are no
principals. This Tag Type is designed for events of a global, rather
than personal, nature. A person is a Witness on a History tag, and the
tag is displayed on the Person View of the individual who witnessed the
historical event. [...] History tags help you to see where the person
fits into an historical context." TMG Help system, "Data Entry: History"

"A timeline is a separate database of historical events. The Timeline
feature can be turned on to provide an aid in interpreting the events of
a person's life against a historical background." TMG Help system,
"Timeline Manager"

Barbara

On 12/31/2015 11:09 PM, Steve Hayes wrote:
> On 31 Dec 2015 at 17:35, Sue wrote:
>
>> I just pulled up my TMG and you are correct, you need a person to add an
>> event. But what use is an event without the participants? Just wondering...
> Consider, for example, an event linke an eclipse of the moon. How do you
> decide which person to attach it to, as if it is more significant to that
> person than to any other?
>
> Or even an event like the opening of a new school (if you ware writing the
> history of the school). Do you attach the event to the principle donors
> (which one), the first principal, or who?
>
> An event-based program will attach persons to events, not events to persons.
>
> And I repeat, I'm not asking or expecting Legacy to do this, just hinting
> that Millennia might write such a program, as a complement to Legacy.
>
>

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[LegacyUG] RE: Are you trying to relate some of your early people and also duplicates? This is really more for a OneName Study.

2015-12-30 Thread Valerie Barbara Garton

To-day I worked out a way to help me. I use the program Legacy which has the
charting program. I searched for all the CULLODENs born before 1750 and in
my case were C/I. I put the religion in the suffix spot so I can then search
for all C/I's, similarly for R/C's. Yes I know that there were inter
marriages but this is the way to start.

I then gave all the C/I Cullodens born before 1750 the same made up father -
father of C/Is. I changed the requirements of information to be selected to
be printed on the chart to as many events and information as possible.
Before I printed out my chart I made the boxes as big as possible and then
the whole chart as big as I wanted it to be [a bit of a waste of paper but
anything that helps my mind is worth every penny.]

Having printed out my chart I then cut up the different people or family
groups and was able to move them around the table as I ascertained who could
belong to whom, what generation did they belong to and also see more easily
possible duplicates. It also meant that one could move them around to put
them in generations on the table.

All of this was great fun and very rewarding and I was soon able to see that
that odd one around must be this person's brother for example.

Cheers from Valerie Garton [nee Vaughan] in sunny Sydney





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Re: [LegacyUG] File Id's

2015-12-19 Thread Barbara Levergood

Hi Steve,

What are the advantages of using RDF as compared with using Legacy for
this purpose?

Barbara


On 12/19/2015 11:47 AM, Steve Hayes wrote:
> On 18 Dec 2015 at 20:32, Walter DeWaele wrote:
>
>> Hi Steve,
>> Could you give us an example of one of your indexed documents? Thanks.
> Here's a sample from the RDF (Research Data Filer) documents file:
>
> 5 DOC 5
>Interview with Eva Murray on 31 Jul 1975
>Interviewed by Stephen and Valerie Hayes
>
> 6 DOC 6
>Deceased estate MSCE 2160/1949 Natal Archives
>Notes on file
>
> 7 DOC 7
>Deceased estate Richard Herbert Cottam
>Notes on file
>
> 8 DOC 8
>Family Bible of Fred Crighton
>In possession of Marion Crighton of Alberton
>notes made in 1986
>
> 5 DOC 5
>Interview with Eva Murray on 31 Jul 1975
>Interviewed by Stephen and Valerie Hayes
>
> 6 DOC 6
>Deceased estate MSCE 2160/1949 Natal Archives
>Notes on file
>
> 7 DOC 7
>Deceased estate Richard Herbert Cottam
>Notes on file
>
> 8 DOC 8
>Family Bible of Fred Crighton
>In possession of Marion Crighton of Alberton
>notes made in 1986
>
> The "DOC 8" is what I put in the File ID field in Legacy.
>
> Here is a search for "fred crighton" using the people index of RDF:
>
> 1 Beningfield, Wilfred ReubenM1294
>Death  31 Mar 1942RSA, Natal, Zululand, Empangeni
>F- Beningfield, Reuben M- Crighton, Martha1287  /1286  /
>DOC 00695   ()
>
> 2 Crighton, Alfred   M17071
>Census 1891   ENG, London
>M- Crighton, Elizabeth GF- Betjeman, George C.01583 /17072 /
>grandson aged 2 months born Middlesex   DOC 02291   ()
>
>
> 3 Crighton, Arthur Edwin M1563
>Marriage   3 Oct 1936
>W- Douglas, Marion Helene 1564  /  /
>Fred Crighton's family BibleDOC 8   ()
>
> 4 Crighton, Arthur Edwin M1563
>Birth  14 Jul 1905RSA, TVL, Johannesburg
>/  /
>Fred Crighton's family BibleDOC 8   ()
>
> Note that it has picked up the "fred" in "Wilfred"
>
> But it also has the DOC number which I have put in the File ID field in
> Legacy.
>
> The number in the top right-hand corner is the RIN of that person, which also
> appears in Legacy (which is why I never reorganise RINs in Legacy, and never
> was even tempted to use FTM).
>
> ,
>
>

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Re: [LegacyUG] And a US Census Area be considered a county?

2015-11-04 Thread Barbara Levergood

I am a glutton for the Census, so I cannot resist sharing the following gem 
from the U.S. Census Bureau. I find that it answers many of my questions about 
U.S. Census geography and thus about how I might enter a location.

Geographic Areas Reference Manual, 
https://www.census.gov/geo/reference/garm.html.
For instance, reinforcing what Brian in CA found out, Chapter 4 tells us: "For 
most States, counties are the primary administrative divisions. There are 
exceptions, however; Louisiana has parishes, while Alaska has boroughs for the 
organized portion of its territory. Because a large part of Alaska is not in 
any organized borough, the State and the Census Bureau cooperatively have 
subdivided the unorganized portion of Alaska into census areas for the purposes 
of presenting statistical data."
Barbara

  From: Brian L. Lightfoot <br...@the-lightfoots.com>
 To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: Wednesday, November 4, 2015 3:07 PM
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] And a US Census Area be considered a county?

I'm a glutton for punishment and this topic of a county name for Gustavus was 
bothering me. So, I picked up the phone and called Gustavus City Hall. The 
wonderful clerk there reminded me that Alaska does not have counties but rather 
"boroughs" similar to Louisiana's "parishes". However, Alaska is still unique 
in that not all of Alaska is organized into boroughs. Currently there are 19 
organized boroughs and one legal entity called the "Unorganized borough". This 
Unorganized Borough is administered by the state and still takes up the vast 
majority of the land in Alaska. Gustavus resides in the Unorganized Borough. 
Technically, you could enter "Unorganized borough" for the county name but that 
would probably just confuse people other than Alaskans. The city clerk of 
Gustavus says she normally leaves that blank on any paperwork that asks for a 
county/borough name but when the form requires something to be entered, she 
uses the name of the closest borough just to keep the paperwork happy.

This concludes today's lesson in Geography.


Brian in CA



-Original Message-
From: Chris Summers [mailto:genealog...@summerscs.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 10:32 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] And a US Census Area be considered a county?

When I add a USA based location for birth, death or marriage events I usually 
list the city, county, state and USA in the location field.
However my son married his wife in a small town in Alaska near Glacier Bay 
National Park that does not belong to any county. The town, Gustavus is a part 
of what is known as the "Hoonah-Angoon Census Area".

Of course when I enter that Legacy tells me no such county in Alaska exists.  
Would it still be appropriate to enter that in the County field or should it 
just be left blank?






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Re: [LegacyUG] Error in new version

2015-09-07 Thread Barbara Thomas

Nan
Don't leave the group. Although there have been a few moans about problems 
recently it's not always like that. I've learned so much about using Legacy by 
reading all the posts here. 
Do give it a bit more time

Barbara Thomas

Sent from Samsung Mobile

 Original message 
From: Nan Bailey <aus.bai...@gmail.com>
Date: 07/09/2015  10:42 PM  (GMT+00:00)
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error in new version

Just my tuppence worth on this. This positive comment is good to see Sally. As 
a new user of Legacy, I joined this discussion group to help learn better how 
to use it. But, all I see are so many problems, issues and complaints, that I 
was seriously thinking of abandoning Legacy and buying something else.

I had to remind myself that this is a discussion group for people to get 
answers to issues before consulting the support team, so the list was doing its 
job. But all the problems really made me wonder if I had made the right choice.

I think I will abandon the list instead and just plod along with Legacy until I 
start doing all thise extra things you all are doing.

All the best to you all,
Nan Bailey
Qld, Australia


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Re: [LegacyUG] magazine vs journal vs periodical vs newsletter

2015-08-24 Thread Barbara Levergood

The Legacy help system states that Nearly all of the source templates
are derived from Elizabeth Shown Mills' book, Evidence Explained: Citing
History Sources from Artifacts to Cyberspace. Mills characterizes
journals, magazines, newspapers, and newsletters on pg. 791 of the 2nd
edition.

Barbara



On 8/24/2015 10:32 AM, Kirstin wrote:
 What is the difference between a magazine, journal, periodical, or
 newsletter? Does Legacy use the terminology the same way as explained on
 the University of Michigan web site?

http://libanswers.umflint.edu/a.php?qid=213617


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[LegacyUG] finding 1700 and 1800 addresses in Europe

2015-03-19 Thread Barbara Schwarting

Is there any resource that gives the breakdown for European towns and countries 
in various time periods?.  It might be similar to Anti-Map or a written one.  I 
want to be accurate for documenting addresses.

Barb



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[LegacyUG] Finding Westerly with Anti Map

2015-02-26 Thread Barbara Schwarting

I’m struggling with the 1696 –1729 county for what is now Westerly, Washington, 
Rhode Island, USA.  I want to give the correct address for this time period. .

1.Washington County wasn’t formed until 1729.
2.When I plot Westerly with Anti Map, it looks like it was in New London, CT.
3. If I’m reading Anti Map correctly, then would the address be Westerly, New 
London, Colony of Connecticut?

Would someone please help me understand this AntiMap?

Thanks, Barb



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[LegacyUG] Chronology View fix

2015-02-26 Thread Barbara Levergood

One of the items said to be fixed on the Revision History page* for v.
8.0.0.467 is Chronology View - Added the option of Edit Individual on
the Options button. However, I do not see the option to edit on the
Options button in Chronology View. I am using 8.0.0.467 Deluxe. What am
I missing?

Thanks!

Barbara

* http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/RevisionHistory8.asp

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RE: [LegacyUG] Some questions about getting rid of Sourcewriter sources

2015-01-18 Thread Barbara Shroyer

Pat,

Your Basic source Footnote/Endnote Citation and Subsequent Citation are 
identical.  Your Bibliography is also the same except for omitting the Source 
Detail.  With SourceWriter the all three are different.  The Subsequent 
Citation will be shorter, often much shorter, than the Footnote/Endnote 
Citation.

A deed using sourcewriter:

Footnote/Endnote Citation:

Stark County, Ohio, Deed Books, C: 53-54, Henry Bortner to Leonard Shroyer, 31 
May 1815; FHL microfilm 956004.



Subsequent Citation:

Stark County, Ohio, Deed Books, C: 53-54.



Bibliography:

Ohio. Stark County. Deed Books. FHL microfilm 956004. Family History Library, 
Salt Lake City, Utah.



Is there a “List of Citations”.  All I can find is a List of Sources and I can 
then click Show List (of people with source).  That eventually takes me to 
citations.



Barbara



From: Pat Hickin [mailto:pph...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 6:10 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Some questions about getting rid of Sourcewriter sources



Barbara,



You write They [Source Writer] also have the Full Citation, Subsequent 
Citation, and Bibliography while Basic does not.



Where is it that Basic does not have these??



If I go to my list of citations [mostly Basic}  and highlight the very first 
one [Basic], this is what shows at the bottom of the window:



Footnote/Endnote Citation:

1785 Census VA BOT - TAXES - VA _BOT - 1785 Anc, Botetourt County, VA, 
Virginia, Compiled Census and Census Substitutes Index, 1607-1890 (Plus the 
missing counties for the 1810 Census)Reconstructed 1790 and 1800 Federal 
Censuses using Tax List Microfilm Images with Every Name Indexes (Source 
Information:Ancestry.com. Virginia, Compiled Census and Census Substitutes 
Index, 1607-1890 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations 
Inc, 1999.Original data: Jackson, Ron V., Accelerated Indexing Systems, comp.. 
Virginia Census, 1607-1890. Compiled and digitized by Mr. Jackson and AIS from 
microfilmed schedules of the U.S. Federal Decennial Census, territorial/state 
censuses, and/or census substitutes.).  Rec. Date: 27 May 2014. Everyone knows 
that the Federal Census Schedules are an excellent source of genealogical 
information. Unfortunately the Virginia Censuses for 1790 and 1800 are lost and 
can never be replaced. But the early tax records of the Virginian counties 
still survive and list all individuals charged with a tax. They may also 
contain names of young men who were tithable, or taxable, much like a male 
dependent of a household. Names of recently deceased individuals whose property 
was still in estate are also listed. There are many clues in tax lists that 
suggest family relationships that can not be found in the early censuses. 
Therefore these tax lists can be used as an alternative census for the missing 
1790 and 1800 Federal Censuses of Virginia.Here you will find FREE online 
images and indexes of the Virginia Tax Lists (Land and/or Personal Property Tax 
Lists) for each of the individual counties and cities that would have been 
included in the Federal Censuses. These tax list images and indexes are used to 
reconstruct the 1790 and 1800 censuses. The years of 1790 and 1800 are 
considered an approximate year. In some cases the actual year 1790 or 1800 tax 
list was very hard to read on the microfilm so we went up or down a couple of 
years to find better quality images.As a BONUS we have added a new section for 
the missing Virginia counties of the 1810 Federal Census. This Federal Census 
is missing 18 Virginia counties. The tax lists are an excellent substitute for 
these missing counties.Each list will be indexed as time permits. We are 
constantly gathering tax lists and will post updates as needed. If you do not 
find your particular tax list here today it may be here tomorrow.



Subsequent Citation:

1785 Census VA BOT - TAXES - VA _BOT - 1785 Anc, Botetourt County, VA, 
Virginia, Compiled Census and Census Substitutes Index, 1607-1890 (Plus the 
missing counties for the 1810 Census)Reconstructed 1790 and 1800 Federal 
Censuses using Tax List Microfilm Images with Every Name Indexes (Source 
Information:Ancestry.com. Virginia, Compiled Census and Census Substitutes 
Index, 1607-1890 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations 
Inc, 1999.Original data: Jackson, Ron V., Accelerated Indexing Systems, comp.. 
Virginia Census, 1607-1890. Compiled and digitized by Mr. Jackson and AIS from 
microfilmed schedules of the U.S. Federal Decennial Census, territorial/state 
censuses, and/or census substitutes.).  Rec. Date: 27 May 2014. Everyone knows 
that the Federal Census Schedules are an excellent source of genealogical 
information. Unfortunately the Virginia Censuses for 1790 and 1800 are lost and 
can never be replaced. But the early tax records of the Virginian counties 
still survive and list all individuals charged with a tax. They may also 
contain names

Re: [LegacyUG] Some questions about getting rid of Sourcewriter sources

2015-01-18 Thread Barbara Shroyer

Cathy,
Thanks.  No, I hadn't seen that report.
Barbara

On January 18, 2015 7:57:08 PM MST, Cathy Pinner genea...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Barbara,
Have you found the Source Citations Report? Reports - Other Reports -
Source Citations OR Master Source List - Options - Print.

Cathy

Pat Hickin wrote:

 Barbara,

 The only lists of citations that I know of are those at the end of
 reports.

 Pat

 On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 9:03 PM, Barbara Shroyer
karenhapp...@cox.net
 mailto:karenhapp...@cox.net wrote:

 Pat,

 Your Basic source Footnote/Endnote Citation and Subsequent
 Citation are identical. Your Bibliography is also the same except
 for omitting the Source Detail. With SourceWriter the all three
 are different. The Subsequent Citation will be shorter, often
 much shorter, than the Footnote/Endnote Citation. 

 A deed using sourcewriter:

 *_Footnote/Endnote Citation:_*

 Stark County, Ohio, Deed Books, C: 53-54, Henry Bortner to Leonard
 Shroyer, 31 May 1815; FHL microfilm 956004. 

 __ __

 *_Subsequent Citation:_*

 Stark County, Ohio, Deed Books, C: 53-54. 

 __ __

 *_Bibliography:_*

 Ohio. Stark County. Deed Books. FHL microfilm 956004. Family
 History Library, Salt Lake City, Utah.

 __ __

 Is there a Ã¢â‚¬Å“List of CitationsÃ¢â‚¬Â. All I can find is a List of
 Sources and I can then click Show List (of people with source).
 That eventually takes me to citations.

 __ __

 Barbara*__*

 __ __

 *From:*Pat Hickin [mailto:pph...@gmail.com mailto:pph...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Sunday, January 18, 2015 6:10 PM
 *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Some questions about getting rid of
 Sourcewriter sources

 __ __

 Barbara,

 __ __

 You write They [Source Writer] also have the Full Citation,
 Subsequent Citation, and Bibliography while Basic does not.

 __ __

 Where is it that Basic does not have these??

 __ __

 If I go to my list of citations [mostly Basic} and highlight the
 very first one [Basic], this is what shows at the bottom of the
 window:

 __ __

 *Footnote/Endnote Citation:*

 1785 Census VA BOT - TAXES - VA _BOT - 1785 Anc, Botetourt
 County, VA, Virginia, Compiled Census and Census Substitutes
 Index, 1607-1890 (Plus the missing counties for the 1810
 Census)Reconstructed 1790 and 1800 Federal Censuses using Tax List
 Microfilm Images with Every Name Indexes (Source
 Information:Ancestry.com. Virginia, Compiled Census and Census
 Substitutes Index, 1607-1890 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA:
 Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 1999.Original data: Jackson, Ron V.,
 Accelerated Indexing Systems, comp.. Virginia Census, 1607-1890.
 Compiled and digitized by Mr. Jackson and AIS from microfilmed
 schedules of the U.S. Federal Decennial Census, territorial/state
 censuses, and/or census substitutes.). Rec. Date: 27 May 2014.
 Everyone knows that the Federal Census Schedules are an excellent
 source of genealogical information. Unfortunately the Virginia
 Censuses for 1790 and 1800 are lost and can never be replaced. But
 the early tax records of the Virginian counties still survive and
 list all individuals charged with a tax. They may also contain
 names of young men who were tithable, or taxable, much like a male
 dependent of a household. Names of recently deceased individuals
 whose property was still in estate are also listed. There are many
 clues in tax lists that suggest family relationships that can not
 be found in the early censuses. Therefore these tax lists can be
 used as an alternative census for the missing 1790 and 1800
 Federal Censuses of Virginia.Here you will find FREE online
 images and indexes of the Virginia Tax Lists (Land and/or Personal
 Property Tax Lists) for each of the individual counties and cities
 that would have been included in the Federal Censuses. These tax
 list images and indexes are used to reconstruct the 1790 and 1800
 censuses. The years of 1790 and 1800 are considered an
 approximate year. In some cases the actual year 1790 or 1800 tax
 list was very hard to read on the microfilm so we went up or down
 a couple of years to find better quality images.As a BONUS we
 have added a new section for the missing Virginia counties of the
 1810 Federal Census. This Federal Census is missing 18 Virginia
 counties. The tax lists are an excellent substitute for these
 missing counties.Each list will be indexed as time permits. We
 are constantly gathering tax lists and will post updates as
 needed. If you do not find your particular tax list here today it
 may be here tomorrow. 

 __ __

 *Subsequent Citation:*

 1785 Census VA BOT - TAXES - VA _BOT - 1785 Anc, Botetourt
 County, VA, Virginia, Compiled Census and Census Substitutes
 Index, 1607-1890 (Plus the missing counties for the 1810
 Census)Reconstructed 1790 and 1800 Federal Censuses using Tax List
 Microfilm Images with Every Name Indexes (Source
 Information:Ancestry.com. Virginia, Compiled Census and Census

RE: [LegacyUG] Some questions about getting rid of Sourcewriter sources

2015-01-18 Thread Barbara Shroyer

Wendy,
I was not criticizing your choice of Basic sources over SourceWriter.  That is 
your choice and, yes, Legacy is a flexible program.  I'm used to TMG which is 
even much more flexible and whose users have often been extremely creative in 
utilizing that flexibility.  That flexibility is also why, since support of TMG 
has ended, that I've chosen Legacy.
My question had two purposes.  (1) That there might be something in the source 
choices (Basic or Sourcewriter) that I needed to be aware of as a new user and 
(2) That the thread seemed to suggest Basic was the better choice while it 
seemed to me personally to fall short.

Barbara








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RE: [LegacyUG] Some questions about getting rid of Sourcewriter sources

2015-01-18 Thread Barbara Shroyer

Confused.  SourceWriter sources are much better than the basic sources.  My 
sources imported from TMG into Legacy as Basic and I'm in the slow process of 
changing them to SourceWriter.  The SourceWriter sources are better written.  
They also have the Full Citation, Subsequent Citation, and Bibliography while 
Basic does not.  What am I missing in this thread?
Barbara








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Re: [LegacyUG] Reverse to do list?

2014-12-16 Thread Barbara Shroyer

Why would you not have tags set permanently?  I and others are coming into 
Legacy from TMG.  TMG calls them flags.  We are used to having an unlimited 
number of these and also being able to have several or more settings for each 
rather than just on or off.
Barbara

On December 16, 2014 8:59:49 AM MST, MikeFry emjay...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2014/12/16 05:48 PM, Marnie Oakes wrote:

 - use a tag (but my tags are pretty  well used up)

Tags were never intended to be anything other then transitory. You
should use
and re-use them.

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