Re: Favorite Distribution for 390
If you do not have $'s and you do not intend to run applications that need support or certification, run Debian. If you need support for oracle for example, pay and run SuSE. Jon R. Doyle Sendmail Inc. 6425 Christie Ave Emeryville, Ca. 94608 (o_ (o_ (o_ //\ (/)_ (\)_ V_/_ On Sun, 30 Mar 2003, Paul Raulerson wrote: Hi guys - we are looking *hard* at purchasing a new z800 0FL machine to run Linux as our primary host computer at work. This is a great idea I think, but I could really use some advice on the distributions. First, pricing... glancing at SuSE's sight, I see what appears to be restricitve licensing (can only run on one machine image?) and some high pricing ($16K for a single image?). Either I am looking in the wrong place, or they have lost their minds. I even saw something that seemed to indicate the license was per year. Not acceptable. Which irritates me a lot because SuSE is my favorite distribution, and the SuSE V7 release I have here (which does not appear to have the kind of restrinctions) is simply too old. Redhat does not seem to post pricing at all for390 images, and reading the last 800 or 900 messages in this newsgroup I am not all that enthused with them anyway. Which narrows things down pretty much to Debian, I think. (TurboLinux says they don't sell in the U.S.) There is also ThinkBlue, but it appears to be two years old as well. In any case, my ideal distribution would have zero restrictions regarding licensing (except of course, for the individual licenses of individual software packages and so forth...) and support available, if I want to pay for it. I understand that IBM says they support ever distribution avaiable for 390, at a cost of course, but I want to get more opinions. So... which distributions do you guys prefer, what kind of costing an I looking at, and if we decide to go with Debian, has anyone got any experience with it in a production environment? Thanks -Paul Raulerson
Re: Is there a Veritas client for the zseries Linux?
Tar or RSYNC work Jon R. Doyle Sendmail Inc. 6425 Christie Ave Emeryville, Ca. 94608 (o_ (o_ (o_ //\ (/)_ (\)_ V_/_ On Fri, 21 Mar 2003, Abdullah Al-humaid wrote: How would you go about backing up the linux server if there wasn't one. One idea I can think of is NFS mounting the linux filesystem on a mchine that has a client. Any others? __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com
Re: ext2 and reiserfs
No in fact for /boot it is prefered to use ext2 since that partition is usually less than 64Meg and the journal if I rememebr right on ReiserFS is like 30meg, besides, the fschk on a small /boot is minimal and it has nothing like deep queue for mail or such with lots of files. Regards, Jon Jon R. Doyle Sendmail Inc. 6425 Christie Ave Emeryville, Ca. 94608 (o_ (o_ (o_ //\ (/)_ (\)_ V_/_ On Thu, 20 Mar 2003, Noll, Ralph wrote: is there a problem with having both ext2 and reiserfs on the same linux suse sles8 31 bit s/390 thanks Ralph Noll Systems Programmer City of Little Rock Phone (501) 371-4884 Fax (501) 371-4712 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] \\\|/// \\\ ~ ~ /// ( @ @ ) ===oOOo=(_)=oOOo===
Re: Interesting perspective
Hymilaya is ZLE or non-stop Windows like kernel. The linux HA is Steeleye SW and HW like this: http://h18004.www1.hp.com/solutions/enterprise/highavailability/dl380/index. html Alan Robertson's linux-ha.org project is the heartbeat package that has some kits available; when he was at SuSE I recall we had Apache, and DRDB, with SAP and Oracle in the works. Some of this work also went into the oss.sgi.com Failsafe project that Alan and Lars Marowsky-Bree headed up. Most, well really all I know of, our Linux customers use Steeleye, and this is on Dell or IBM too. Solaris customers I have seen here use Veritas. Regards, Jon On 3/17/03 7:49 PM, Steven A. Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 19:32, John Summerfield wrote: On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Steve Gentry wrote: Further . . . Once a fix is made to the code, the patched version of the OS can be swapped into place . . . without taking down the system I've been a sys.prog. for about 20 years, 15 of those in VM and I don't know of any feature that will let a sys prog do this! If so, I've spent a lot of late nights and weekends upgradeing when I could have done it during the week. In reality, no you do not have to power the box off, but you do have to cycle VM or VSE. I'm not sure about z/OS, but since the author mentions virtual machines aka VM, in my opinion he is wrong. Now don't misunderstand me, I'm for VM getting all the accurate press it can I read that and wondered. You can come pretty close on IA32 hardware, using duplicate servers and so-called failover. See www.linux-ha.org. I think ComPaqard calls this Hymilaya (used to be Tandem).
Re: Interesting perspective
On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, John Summerfield wrote: On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Steven A. Adams wrote: I think ComPaqard calls this Hymilaya (used to be Tandem). Did Tandem use Linux? I'm sure I went to a Tandem Non-stop presentation late 70s, early 80s. According to my info (Reliable Linux, Iain Campbell, Wiley), ha-linux had its genesis with Alan Robertson's heartbeat code. I think Alan works for IBM. Alan worked for Bell Labs, then in my group at SuSE, and now at IBM Linux labs. He contribues/owns the Heartbeat project linux-ha.org and we supported the SGI port of Failsafe to linux, which included the kits or scripts for product failover (meaning Oracle etc). HA-Linux is open-source. There are also LVS (open Source) and various vendor offerings VAnessa (VA Linux) RH HAS ha.redhat.com FailSafe (SGI) Blue Hammer (IBM PSSP) and more. -- Cheers John. Join the Linux Support by Small Businesses list at http://mail.computerdatasafe.com.au/mailman/listinfo/lssb
Re: Send mail alert - is this old? Are there L/390 patches out yet?
sendmail.org Jon R. Doyle Sendmail Inc. 6425 Christie Ave Emeryville, Ca. 94608 (o_ (o_ (o_ //\ (/)_ (\)_ V_/_ On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, James Melin wrote: |-+ | | Harrod, William| | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | e.com | | || | | 03/03/2003 02:17 | | | PM | | || |-+ --| | | | To: Harrod, William [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | cc: | | Subject: TruSecure ALERT- TSA 03-002 - Sendmail Buffer Overflow -- ALERT | --| -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 TruSecure ALERT- TSA 03-002 - Sendmail Buffer Overflow -- ALERT Initial Assessment: Important Date: February 14, 2003 Time: 2000 UTC Current Assessment: RED HOT Date: March 3, 2003 Time: 1700 UTC On February 14th a TruSecure Radar posting indicated that we were aware of a potential vulnerability in Sendmail. Today, a coordinated announcement was made regarding a Sendmail header buffer overflow vulnerability. It is expected that code exploiting this vulnerability is already in circulation and attacks will be likely in the near future. Most installations of Unix include Sendmail by default and are therefore probably vulnerable. This may impact an organization's infrastructure because many firewalls and content filtering products contain Sendmail. It is recommended that customers who are using a firewall that proxies mail, using Sendmail, implement packet filtering rules to redirect mail through patched or non-Sendmail systems while propagating fixes from their vendors. RISK INDICIES: Current Assessment: RED HOT Threat: High - The vulnerability allows administrative access on an exploited host. The exploit takes advantage of a fixed-sized buffer used to process certain mail header fields, (To:, From:, CC:, Resent From: and related comment fields.) Vulnerability Prevalence: High - Sendmail is installed by default on most Unix systems and this exploit may impact critical infrastructure devices as well as numerous devices without mail functionality, but with Sendmail installed. TruSecure is aware that known malicious coders currently have exploit code to work from. We expect simple exploits in the near term, and more complex exploits including mail-based worms shortly thereafter. Cost: High - This exploit may provide administrative access on vulnerable systems, including infrastructure devices. MITIGATIONS: 1. Re-routing mail from Sendmail devices to already patched servers or non-Sendmail systems while propagating patches. 2. Substitute other Message Transfer Agents for Sendmail in your organization (Postfix, Qmail, Exim, Exchange...) 3. Patch vulnerable systems as quickly as possible. The following vendors have announced patch availability: Mandrake, SuSE, IBM, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, SGI, Red Hat. NOTES: 1. People using TruSecure Shadow Mail should be safe from this attack downstream. 2. There are reports that Sendmail servers downstream from Patched Sendmail systems may be protected from potential attacks.
Re: SLES8 Install Problems
iso9660 Jon R. Doyle Sendmail Inc. 6425 Christie Ave Emeryville, Ca. 94608 (o_ (o_ (o_ //\ (/)_ (\)_ V_/_ On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Noll, Ralph wrote: what is the mount command and the type to mount my cdrom from my windows box to install a product from my win pc onto my linux machine mount -t ftp 10.201.18.2 /cdrom... zvmlinx5:/# mount -t ftp 10.201.18.2 /cdrom mount: fs type ftp not supported by kernel zvmlinx5:/# error message above Ralph -Original Message- From: Scott Archer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 11:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SLES8 Install Problems WAR-FTPD is a server that will work with a Linux install, unlike microsoft ftp servers which only have a subset of the FTP command set. It is free and can be found at http://www.jgaa.com/ Now I can install Linux from my window workstation w/o having to bother the UNIX group to mount my CD on one of their FTP servers. Chapter 5, page 23 (Making the installation data available via FTP) describes the need for it. It works well, in fact I'm replacing my current FTP server with WAR-FTPD. Scott At 09:19 AM 02/25/2003, you wrote: What is WAR-FTPD? FTPD I know, but WAR is unfamiliar to me. Eric Bielefeld Sr. MVS Systems Programmer PH Mining Equipment Milwaukee, WI 414-671-7849 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/24/03 04:56PM Okay.. solved my space problem. I'm doing an FTP install using WAR-FTPD. I set the max users on the ftp server to 5 to be safe?. The install logs on at least 24 times without logging off. Go figure. I set the max users to 4000. Anyway now I can see all the packages and it says I have enough room. Another tip for WAR-FTPD users is to set the file access alias to /cdrom so the install can find it. ** Scott Archer Mainframe Systems Administration, New Mexico State University E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://sarcher.nmsu.edu Phone: (505)646-6186 **
Re: TSM Client on SLES8
Yast will find the packages you need automagically. Other was is look in the d' section and find the right libs package. Regards, Jon Jon R. Doyle Sendmail Inc. 6425 Christie Ave Emeryville, Ca. 94608 (o_ (o_ (o_ //\ (/)_ (\)_ V_/_ On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Rich Smrcina wrote: I am trying to install the TSM Client 5.1.5 on SLES8 and during the rpm I am greeted with this cheery message: error: failed dependencies: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 is needed by TIVsm-BA-5.1.5-0 Is there some linking magic to do or a compatibility library that needs to be installed to resolve this? -- Rich Smrcina Sr. Systems Engineer Sytek Services, A Division of DSG Milwaukee, WI [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Catch the WAVV! Stay for Requirements and the Free for All! Update your S/390 skills in 4 days for a very reasonable price. WAVV 2003 in Winston-Salem, NC. April 25-29, 2003 For details see http://www.wavv.org
Re: Another distribution question
We do certifiy through normal QA process SuSE SLES, RH Adv Srv for example on Intel systems, and SuSE SLES on zSeries, this is the commercial products, and I mention this because the thread started about Oracle from what I read. Oracle has several levels from what I remember, one called Validation like here: http://www.suse.com/en/business/certifications/certified_software/oracle/certified.html SAP has something similar to the above, I even rememebr one tech doc telling you to put a SuSE Kernel on top of a Redhat install to be certified. Most ISVs IMHO need to protect themselves somewhat on Linux because it is a platform that can have any level of changes applied at the end-user level. Meaning, we know what Solaris level or NT level works through QA processes, but what if somebody calls me and says I am running SuSE SLES with 2.4.18, but I find they have patched the kernel with pre-emptive stuff, or any number of things that seemed interesting in the dev community, or say new glibc, and now Sendmail filters or something are not working correctly. So you see we have to pick certain levels of the platform and QA that and call it known to work. You find an issue, we can reproduct that internally on the same platform, much more reasonable to keep quality control. Most HW vendors also certify against known version levels too, obviously for driver sakes, in fact I have heard rumour once that Compaq did more QA of Linux for that very reason than the Linux vendor themselves. http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/servers/linux/hpLinuxcert-dl.html Regards, Jon Jon R. Doyle Sendmail Inc. 6425 Christie Ave Emeryville, Ca. 94608 (o_ (o_ (o_ //\ (/)_ (\)_ V_/_ On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, Gregg C Levine wrote: Hello from Gregg C Levine Something else we need to consider here. Why would each distributor actually distribute the freely available version of say, sendmail, and not insist on certification for it? John, if it wasn't certified then, it sure as taxes is now. --- Gregg C Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Force will be with you...Always. Obi-Wan Kenobi Use the Force, Luke. Obi-Wan Kenobi (This company dedicates this E-Mail to General Obi-Wan Kenobi ) (This company dedicates this E-Mail to Master Yoda ) -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John Summerfield Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 4:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] Another distribution question On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, Dave Jousma wrote: Thanks all for the responses. For us, this is a chicken and egg thing. We are just testing the waters, so to speak, so we are not ready to call any vendor(s) to see if they will play in the 390 environment. You have answered my question, though. The 3rd party app must specify z/series or S390 as a platform, and if not, then it is not compatible(at this time). I know some folk value certification, but I wonder. Some time ago a local business would not run Oracle on Linux because it's not certified. It was actually available and it ran fine. Take a look at the software you run: Is Samba certified? Is Sendmail/Postfix/Exim? So far as I know, _none_ of the hardware I run Linux on is certified. -- Cheers John. Join the Linux Support by Small Businesses list at http://mail.computerdatasafe.com.au/mailman/listinfo/lssb
Re: Another distribution question
Not entirely we think: LSB does help in the the layout for scripts, like /usr/local/xxx for sendmail and /etc/init.d etc, but the two main distros we certify Rh adv srv and SuSE SLES both seemingly will have differences in the near future in respects to libs, SLES will be taking an approach with NGPT (Next Generation Posix Threads) an IBM sponsored project, while RH will be going with another flavor, each differs, one is M:N while the other is 1:1. The confusion for us now is do we just compile against whatever is in glibc or do we go back to a port for ea distro and have some advantages? I believe we willl maintain a single xxx123-LNX.rpm moving forward, LSB helped us eliminate xxx123-SuSE.rpm and xxx123-RH.rpm, but it reamins to be seen I think how close the LSB spec will hold Linux distos for ISVs like us and how well those distros comply. It is not un-common for Os vendors to create new standards, or claim there are new ones and everybody should do this or that :~) Regards, Jon Jon R. Doyle Sendmail Inc. 6425 Christie Ave Emeryville, Ca. 94608 (o_ (o_ (o_ //\ (/)_ (\)_ V_/_ On Tue, 26 Nov 2002, David Boyes wrote: Most ISVs IMHO need to protect themselves somewhat on Linux because it is a platform that can have any level of changes applied at the end-user level. Meaning, we know what Solaris level or NT level works through QA processes, but what if somebody calls me and says I am running SuSE SLES with 2.4.18, but I find they have patched the kernel with pre-emptive stuff, or any number of things that seemed interesting in the dev community, or say new glibc, and now Sendmail filters or something are not working correctly. So you see we have to pick certain levels of the platform and QA that and call it known to work. You find an issue, we can reproduct that internally on the same platform, much more reasonable to keep quality control. Does the introduction of the LSB and the informal certification scripts for LSB 1.x compliance address this at all? I'm thinking that if the application is written to be LSB x.y compliant, then it should work and be supportable on other LSB x.y compliant platforms, right? -- db
Re: Reiser file size limit
Mkreiserfs -v2 /dev/ The -v2 will call the version that has LFS. Regards, Jon On 11/18/02 9:00 AM, Gustavson, John (ECSS) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are running reiserfsprogs 3.x.0k-pre8 of reiser. Is there a 2 gig file size limit? If so, what can be done to get around the limit? Regards John Gustavson Enterprise Central Software Services (ECSS) 570 Washington Street - 2nd floor New York, New York, 10080-6802 Telephone: 1-212-647-3793 Fax: 1-212-647-3321 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Reiser file size limit
That has LFS, if you call ReiserFS with -v2 However, I would recommend you grab 2.4.18 Regards, Jon On 11/18/02 9:27 AM, Gustavson, John (ECSS) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2.4.7 Regards John Gustavson Enterprise Central Software Services (ECSS) 570 Washington Street - 2nd floor New York, New York, 10080-6802 Telephone: 1-212-647-3793 Fax: 1-212-647-3321 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Post, Mark K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 12:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Reiser file size limit What kernel version are you running? Mark Post -Original Message- From: Gustavson, John (ECSS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 12:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Reiser file size limit We are running reiserfsprogs 3.x.0k-pre8 of reiser. Is there a 2 gig file size limit? If so, what can be done to get around the limit? Regards John Gustavson Enterprise Central Software Services (ECSS) 570 Washington Street - 2nd floor New York, New York, 10080-6802 Telephone: 1-212-647-3793 Fax: 1-212-647-3321 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to get to swat
Edit inetd.conf and uncomment the lines to allow SWAT to run, be sure inetd is running, it should be in rc.config as start inetd=yes, you can call it with rcinetd start Regards, Jon On 11/18/02 9:49 AM, Noll, Ralph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how do i get to swat. i am using Linux zvmlinx1 2.4.17-SuSE #1 SMP Thu Feb 28 14:28:29 GMT 2002 s390x unknown i tried my ip 10.60.1.111:901nothing?? thanks Ralph Noll Systems Programmer City of Little Rock Phone (501) 371-4884 Fax (501) 371-4712 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] \\\|/// \\\ ~ ~ /// ( @ @ ) ===oOOo=(_)=oOOo===
Re: 20g partition
Logical volume Manager Www.sistina.com On 11/18/02 11:11 AM, Abruzzese, Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark, Please explain what LVM means. Thanks, P. Abruzzese -Original Message- From: Post, Mark K [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 1:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 20g partition As Adam indicated, LVM is what you need. But as a word of warning, since you're still running a 2.2 kernel, you will be limited to a _file_ size of 2GB each. So, if you need any individual file to exceed 2GB in size, you must upgrade to a 2.4 system. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Abruzzese, Pat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 12:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 20g partition I have a user that needs a 20g partition. What steps are needed to add this partition?
Re: how to get to swat
Issue rcinetd restart and point your browser to localhost, on port 901 I think it says here. Regards, Jon On 11/18/02 12:39 PM, Noll, Ralph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes all there -Original Message- From: Kittendorf, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 1:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: how to get to swat Has Samba been started? Do you have swat 901/tcp in /etc/services? And swat stream tcp nowait root /usr/bin/swat swat In /etc/inetd.conf? -Original Message- From: Noll, Ralph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 12:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:how to get to swat how do i get to swat. i am using Linux zvmlinx1 2.4.17-SuSE #1 SMP Thu Feb 28 14:28:29 GMT 2002 s390x unknown i tried my ip 10.60.1.111:901nothing?? thanks Ralph Noll Systems Programmer City of Little Rock Phone (501) 371-4884 Fax (501) 371-4712 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] \\\|/// \\\ ~ ~ /// ( @ @ ) ===oOOo=(_)=oOOo===
Re: What to ask RedHat presenters about SuSE on OS/390 vs Redhat?
From what I read on the RH site the other ports are custom hacks, supported through thier consulting. I know we have boxed kits here in-house for: SuSE i-series x-series (i386) z-series p-series ?-series 64bit Builds or kits outside IBM sparc amd-64 (sledgehammer) ppc-MAC I have too, it is my experience RH is new to the multi-platform capability, but they are not new to marketing, they are great at that, ala M$. Regards, Jon Jon R. Doyle Sendmail Inc. 6425 Christie Ave Emeryville, Ca. 94608 (o_ (o_ (o_ //\ (/)_ (\)_ V_/_ On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, John Summerfield wrote: On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:17, you wrote: SuSE and Red Hat both have a contractual obligation to provide Linux distributions across all of IBM's hardware lines. How often do you happen to know? The latest I can see at RH's ftp site is: ftp dir 7.2/en/os 200 PORT command successful. Consider using PASV. 150 Here comes the directory listing. drwxr-xr-x6 004096 Jul 15 08:07 i386 drwxr-xr-x7 004096 Jul 14 17:51 ia64 drwxr-xr-x6 004096 Sep 13 18:41 s390 226 Directory send OK. ftp dir 7.1/en/os 200 PORT command successful. Consider using PASV. 150 Here comes the directory listing. drwxr-xr-x9 004096 Jul 14 06:06 alpha drwxr-xr-x6 004096 Jul 15 07:39 i386 drwxr-xr-x6 004096 Jul 15 07:32 ia64 drwxr-xr-x5 004096 Sep 23 05:55 ppc drwxr-xr-x6 004096 Sep 23 05:52 s390x 226 Directory send OK. -- Cheers John Summerfield Microsoft's most solid OS: http://www.geocities.com/rcwoolley/ Join the Linux Support by Small Businesses list at http://mail.computerdatasafe.com.au/mailman/listinfo/lssb
Re: What to ask RedHat presenters about SuSE on OS/390 vs Redhat?
Never seen thier Sparc port, wow, I fogot Alpha, and I run one here on my desk, a Miata, good catch. Right they had a couple revs, last one CPQ had to pay them to do it. Point being they are great for MKTing, but IMHO SuSE has them cold on Engineering. But, case in point, the Alpha, the best technology is not often what everyone uses :~) Regards, Jon Jon R. Doyle Sendmail Inc. 6425 Christie Ave Emeryville, Ca. 94608 (o_ (o_ (o_ //\ (/)_ (\)_ V_/_ On Sun, 10 Nov 2002, Alex deVries wrote: Jon R. Doyle wrote: I have too, it is my experience RH is new to the multi-platform capability, but they are not new to marketing, they are great at that, ala M$. I don't think that Red Hat is new to non-IA32 archs at all. I'm sure I'm getting my years wrong, but they did have an Alpha and Sparc port throughout the late 1990s. - Alex -- Alex deVries Principal Architect, Linuxcare Canada, Inc. (613) 562 2759 Linuxcare. Simplifying Server Consolidation.
Re: What to ask RedHat presenters about SuSE on OS/390 vs Redhat?
Read good Marketing John, dig deep and you will see it is pay me consulting for ye hack Regards, Jon Jon R. Doyle Sendmail Inc. 6425 Christie Ave Emeryville, Ca. 94608 (o_ (o_ (o_ //\ (/)_ (\)_ V_/_ On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, John Summerfield wrote: On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:31, you wrote: I have too, it is my experience RH is new to the multi-platform capability, but they are not new to marketing, they are great at that, ala M$. RH has had Alpha and Sparc for years I think in both 32 and 64-bit. Recently it's culled some. I'm slightly puzzled about Power support though, if RH has a contract requiring it then I thought there'd be something newer than 7.1. -- Cheers John Summerfield Microsoft's most solid OS: http://www.geocities.com/rcwoolley/ Join the Linux Support by Small Businesses list at http://mail.computerdatasafe.com.au/mailman/listinfo/lssb
Re: file size limit
Need to call reiserFS with version2 that has LFS; issue: mkreiserfs -v2 /dev/sd Jon R. Doyle Sendmail Inc. 6425 Christie Ave Emeryville, Ca. 94608 (o_ (o_ (o_ //\ (/)_ (\)_ V_/_ On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, Abdullah Al-humaid wrote: We are tryint to ftp aoracle data file (more than 2GB) from the Mainframe to the s390 linux partition (suse 7.2) and we get the error file size limit excedded while ftp'ing. we tried it both ways (put, get). When I issued the ulimit -a command it stated the file size is unlimited. Any idea what is wrong? Also, I would like to know how can I search the archive of this list? Thnaks __ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/
Re: Betr.: Re: SuSE or RED HAT
Not grave if you want to PR buzz, remember key is WILLBE PORTING OR HAVE :~) Jon R. Doyle Sendmail Inc. 6425 Christie Ave Emeryville, Ca. 94608 (o_ (o_ (o_ //\ (/)_ (\)_ V_/_ On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, Rich Smrcina wrote: Websphere runs today on SuSE Linux. I have also heard that Lotus Domino will be ported to Linux for S/390, there was no mention that it would be specifically Redhat. If it was, it would be a grave mistake. On Tuesday 01 October 2002 04:57 pm, you wrote: IBM and Redhat have an agreement since 21 september 2002 that Redhat will run on al X- I- P- and Z-series IBM will port Lotus Notes,Websphere and Tivoli to Redhat Maybe that helps you to make a choice. Regards, Roger Boussen business email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] private email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] DISCLAIMER: *** * Deze e-mail is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde(n). Verstrekking aan en gebruik door anderen is niet toegestaan. Audax sluit iedere aansprakelijkheid uit die voortvloeit uit elektronische verzending. This e-mail is intended exclusively for the addressee(s), and may not be passed on to, or made available for use by any person other than the addressee(s). Audax rules out any and every liability resulting from any electronic transmission. *** * -- Rich Smrcina Sytek Services, Inc. Milwaukee, WI [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Catch the WAVV! Stay for Requirements and the Free for All! Update your S/390 skills in 4 days for a very reasonable price. WAVV 2003 in Winston-Salem, NC. April 25-29, 2003 For details see http://www.wavv.org
Re: Betr.: Re: SuSE or RED HAT
It is like the BSD's, there is a standard, LSB, but will RH and the group Unitedlinux go along the same road? I think not if I read it correctly, seems RH thinks they are the standard, same on the United side. It would be interesting if RH did all the marketing and a group of United whatever made the product. Since there is not much IP, seems there should be more of a pool; because what if all the top folks abandoned ship.I remember the discussions around that AOL/RH rumour were pretty clear what could happen if a distro was swallowed up, woudl there be anything left? Regards, Jon Jon R. Doyle Sendmail Inc. 6425 Christie Ave Emeryville, Ca. 94608 (o_ (o_ (o_ //\ (/)_ (\)_ V_/_ On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, Post, Mark K wrote: Hmm. I was hoping that the Linux software developers would have taken the LSB and applied it to Linux/390. I guess I should say I was _expecting_ that. There are so few differences between Linux/390 and the others, it just seemed to be the sensible thing to do. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Alan Cox [mailto:alan;lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Betr.: Re: SuSE or RED HAT On Tue, 2002-10-01 at 23:10, Rich Smrcina wrote: Websphere runs today on SuSE Linux. I have also heard that Lotus Domino will be ported to Linux for S/390, there was no mention that it would be specifically Redhat. If it was, it would be a grave mistake. I would agree with that sentiment. Maybe customers need to gently poke their IBM reps about a defined LSB base and compatibility test set for S/390 Linux, in the same way as the LSB is finally making sensible guarantees about a base compatibility for x86
Re: Firewall for zSeries Linux?
You might be looking at version 1? If you are on Kernel 2.4, use SuSEfirewall2 that has ipchains and can get quite extensive. Take a lok at the security packages here: www.suse.de/~marc Regards, Jon Jon R. Doyle Sendmail Inc. 6425 Christie Ave Emeryville, Ca. 94608 (o_ (o_ (o_ //\ (/)_ (\)_ V_/_ On Thu, 12 Sep 2002, David J. Chase wrote: I tried to search the archives and was unable to get in and I need the information as soon as I can find it so I'm going to ask here and beg your indulgence :-) I am going to use words I don't understand, so please try to read into my question if it doesn't make sense :-) :-) A customer has the SuSE distribution but feels that the default firewall doesn't have as many features as they want. It seems to only do network address translation and they are also looking for packet filtering. Is there a commercial firewall program available for Linux for zSeries? Is there anything else you can tell me? I tried searching linuxvm.org but couldn't find what I was looking for. Thanks very much! David -- David J. Chase, zSeries Techline, New York City -- --IBM - 7th Fl, 590 Madison Ave, NYC, NY 10022 -- -- 212-745-3890 (tieline 243) --
Re: Animosity from the press
We actually disclosed all the internal results on the testing to date with zSeries. It is available on our Website in response to the recent articles off linuxworld.com. It is a tremendous effort I can tell you to do Benchmarking with large mail (millions of users) environments, all the so called products/parts, IMAP/POP, MTA, LDAP, Filesystems, Storage, Blasting tools, reporting tools, on and on. I can say that thanks to the SuSE and IBM engineers we have come a long way with Linux results on zSeries. We have made every effort to not be on the bench with a tone signal using real profiles, how many users, checking this or that, size of message, time during the day to check/send you name it. Thanks again to Hans Reiser, Chris Mason, Bernd, Hubert Mantel, Andrea Arcangeli, and the 1/2 dozen members of the IBM Engineering team for the work. Regards, Jon On 5/26/02 2:54 PM, Phil Payne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vendor provided comparisons between its own products. Comparisons by Ford between Ford cards don't tell you anything about whether its a Porsche or Bicycle equivalent. And *no* credible mainstream computing journalist will trust a vendor provided benchmark. They've seen enough such material, most of which appears to be compost. Benchmarketing, as it's known. I think most results could be verified - but they wouldn't be much more use. It's always fun to dig into the _exact_ configuration used for the 'headline' benchmarks - it's usually one that a real user wouldn't dream of installing in a thousand years. Exotic front end preprocessors, various bits of error recovery and/or transaction logging turned off - that kind of thing. -- Phil Payne http://www.isham-research.com +44 7785 302 803 +49 173 6242039
#3 from Linuxworld
http://www.linuxworld.com/site-stories/2002/0522.mainframelinux.html Jon R. Doyle Sendmail Inc. 6425 Christie Ave Emeryville, Ca. 94608 (o_ (o_ (o_ //\ (/)_ (\)_ V_/_
Re: #3 from Linuxworld
Anybody that has valid complaints should send them over to the Editor of the publication. I have found that to be effective in the past. While it is no crime to be opinionated, objectivity in the press is something that is the basis for reviews. However, the American press suffers from this all over the place, not just technology. Regards, Jon Jon R. Doyle Sendmail Inc. 6425 Christie Ave Emeryville, Ca. 94608 (o_ (o_ (o_ //\ (/)_ (\)_ V_/_ On Thu, 23 May 2002, Dennis G. Wicks wrote: ... and last I hope! The really aggravating thing is that the guy quite obviously doesn't know what he is talking/writing about. In spite of the feedback he received he still has an obvious Don't bother me with facts. My mind is made up! attitute. Good riddance! Jon R. Doyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] om cc: Sent by: LinuxSubject: #3 from Linuxworld on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] ARIST.EDU 05/23/02 02:30 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port http://www.linuxworld.com/site-stories/2002/0522.mainframelinux.html Jon R. Doyle Sendmail Inc. 6425 Christie Ave Emeryville, Ca. 94608 (o_ (o_ (o_ //\ (/)_ (\)_ V_/_
Re: Linux backup software
Well you said Freeware, and the best fit it tar, in fact I think it is better than some commercial stuff, as long as you do not need so called agents like connectors to Oracle or something for Hot back-up/restore. You can make some really neat scripts for tar using cron jobs, at jobs, and even rsync/ssh to do some extensive backup routines. Tar also can be called to compress and use tape devices. Regards, Jon Jon R. Doyle Sendmail Inc. 6425 Christie Ave Emeryville, Ca. 94608 (o_ (o_ (o_ //\ (/)_ (\)_ V_/_ On Wed, 22 May 2002, Konkol, Josh wrote: We use FDR/Upstream. It appears to work fine. Josh -Original Message- From: PAUL WILLIAMSON [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 10:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Linux backup software I'm not sure if this will work, but Arkeia is pretty good, and is very good at managing tape libraries and such. It is pretty involved, but once you get the hang of it, you'll really like it (IMHO). http://www.arkeia.com/ Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/22/02 10:33AM I apologize if this has been asked before. What Linux software is available to perform logical backups of Linux S/390 files and directories? Ideally we would be looking for 'freeware or shareware' but if you know of any commercial ware that would be appreciated also. We would be looking for software that can backup on to 3490s and 3480s. Thanks in advance...Neil
Re: Red Hat Sites Extremely Busy
Take a look here for the list of mirrors: http://www.suse.com/us/support/download/ftp/int_mirrors.html There is one not listed here that is also fast: ftp.gwdg.de Regards, Jon Jon R. Doyle Sendmail Inc. 6425 Christie Ave Emeryville, Ca. 94608 (o_ (o_ (o_ //\ (/)_ (\)_ V_/_ On Tue, 7 May 2002, Jill Grine wrote: Does anyone know if the same sites are used to mirror SuSE? I've been trying to access various mirror sites, but getting all kinds of problems. -Original Message- From: Rich Smrcina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 10:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Red Hat Sites Extremely Busy RedHat Linux 7.3. On Tuesday 07 May 2002 09:25 am, you wrote: I've been trying to connect to some/any Red Hat FTP servers/mirrors, and they're all just about saturated. Has Red Hat made something GA yesterday or today to cause this? Mark Post -- Rich Smrcina Sytek Services, Inc. Milwaukee, WI [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Catch the WAVV! Stay for Requirements and the Free for All! Update your S/390 skills in 4 days for a very reasonable price. WAVV 2003 in Winston-Salem, NC. April 25-29, 2003 For details see http://www.wavv.org
Re: GFS anyone?
Send a note to [EMAIL PROTECTED] tell him I sent you. I am sure Michael will be open with you on what they are doing and have done. GFS and the LVM are great stuff IMHO. Regards, Jon Jon R. Doyle Sendmail Inc. 6425 Christie Ave Emeryville, Ca. 94608 (o_ (o_ (o_ //\ (/)_ (\)_ V_/_ On Mon, 6 May 2002, Lionel Dyck wrote: Is anyone using GFS under z/VM Linux? Lionel B. Dyck, Systems Software Lead Kaiser Permanente Information Technology 25 N. Via Monte Ave Walnut Creek, Ca 94598 Phone: (925) 926-5332 (tie line 8/473-5332) E-Mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sametime: (use Lotus Notes address) AIM:lbdyck
Re: How do we get iostat working in SLES7?
Kernel updates from SuSE have the hooks for iostat to give info similar to Solaris or BSD. This was placed into 2.4.16 and beyond as I recall. This kernel patch was questionable in the past. The patch is also located on the web, there is a maintainer in France as I recall. Google it if you do not have the updated Kernel, but I would recommend that route as there are several things that went into 2.4.18 You might send a note to bernd or Jens at SuSE to check on updates. Regards, Jon Jon R. Doyle Sendmail Inc. 6425 Christie Ave Emeryville, Ca. 94608 (o_ (o_ (o_ //\ (/)_ (\)_ V_/_ On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, John P Taylor wrote: We are having some problems at the moment geting iostat to output data from the partitons defined to the system (e.g iostat -x /dev/dasdb). This works OK on Redhat 7.2 and the reason for this seems to be that /proc/partitions contains rather more information on RedHat than SLES7. We tried applying linux-2.4.0-sard.patch to SLES7: --- linux/drivers/block/ll_rw_blk.c.~1~ Mon Jul 17 14:53:34 2000 --- linux/drivers/scsi/scsi_lib.c.~1~ Mon Jul 17 14:53:30 2000 --- linux/fs/partitions/check.c.~1~ Mon Jul 17 14:53:31 2000 --- linux/include/linux/blkdev.h.~1~Mon Jul 17 14:53:38 2000 --- linux/include/linux/genhd.h.~1~ Mon Jul 17 14:53:28 2000 --- linux/drivers/block/genhd.c.origFri Sep 7 12:05:30 2001 linux/drivers/block/ll_rw_blk.c.~1~ patches cleanly but the others do not. Are we going about this the wrong way, is there an alternative utility that provides the same level of detail. Any suggestions welome! John P Taylor ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Sendmail Perfomance
I think that is when Andrea's work went in to mainline. On SuSE builds it is there for all platforms. I think some of the -aa tree went into the mainline, with other pieces from Andrew. I would have to look back over the 10k lkml entries :~) You will also see some gains over the stock using .19pre7 that has a lot of work on ReiserFS done (some specific to Sendmail) as well as more cleanup from Andrea. You can grab the source at ftp.suse.de/pub.people/mantel Regards, Jon Jon R. Doyle Sendmail Inc. 6425 Christie Ave Emeryville, Ca. 94608 (o_ (o_ (o_ //\ (/)_ (\)_ V_/_ On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, John Summerfield wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: We have also seen large performance gains on 2.4.18, especially with the SuSE patch from Andrea (VM33). I don't know why, but disk performance improved on several Intel/AMD boxes I use by around 30% at 2.4.17. As measured by hdparm, but bonnie/bonnie++ backed that up on my Athlon system. -- Cheers John Summerfield Microsoft's most solid OS: http://www.geocities.com/rcwoolley/ Note: mail delivered to me is deemed to be intended for me, for my disposition. == If you don't like being told you're wrong, be right!
Re: Sendmail Perfomance
On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Alan Cox wrote: used in the Sendmail deployments we do, as the Queues or mailstores can become corrupt, especially with the large Cache on today's controllers. EXT2 does not fsync or dirsync correctly, we had to place patches into 8.12 code base for this problematic issue (people that use EXT2 anyway). This is incorrect. Ext2 is strictly standards compliant here. Sendmail at least used to make totally bogus assumptions about synchronous directory updating. I'm suprised that you might not have fixed such code. (Perhaps you have - I run exim because I want fast efficient mail handling and a human readable configuration) Whether or not it meets some standards these issues were problematic, and only on Linux, not BSD with Soft Updates, or the other likely suspects on Unix AIX etc. Whn I uncovered this, the Opensource group did make fixes specifically for Linux, it is in the release notes for 8.12 Quite standard with some mail systems, there are threads on this issue in the SpecBench area that handles Specmail. This was really when it came to a head for us. In fact Domino was rejected until they chattr or mounted EXT2 in -sync. From my memory when I spoke to Claus and Greg here the ISV being required to make specific calls to a FS was hard to swallow. However, we did do this in 8.12 EXT3 will have the same set of problems, infact I was just doing studies Also incorrect. See the documentation. Ext3 also follows the posix/sus requirements and allows you to select additional ordering guarantees Humm, if you mean that you can mount EXT3 with options, then yes, but I rarely find folks that follow the warning label. If you mean the forced fsync, yes, that too can be disabled, but I have not read wheter this is wise just saw in places that you should still run fsync manually at times. This last area was specific to HA environments. As to reiserfs being very fast for very small files. It was certainly designed to be , and Namesys are smart people. Yes, smart, Hans just needs better PR for hot technology or maybe RH should put ReiserFS support in their installer then all the American's would use it, since we buy and use everything from Software to Wonder Bread on marketing perception :~) Regards, Jon
Re: sendmail error?
Are you using UUCP? What way did you do the re-install? Did you build from source, use a preset mc and m4? Or do you have an RPM? What is the platform SuSE? If this is the case go into Yast and config. Sendmail to you needs, there is a section under Admin someplace (Yast is not in front of me) that has Sendmail config, even an expert menu. Exit and call SuSEconfig, this will rebuild the cf, restart Sendmail with rcsendmail restart. uux BTW calls commands on another host (like rsh rcp) and is part of the uucp package. Regards, Jon Jon R. Doyle Sendmail Inc. 6425 Christie Ave Emeryville, Ca. 94608 (o_ (o_ (o_ //\ (/)_ (\)_ V_/_ On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Marcy Cortes wrote: I'm getting this message when I try to send mail from my Linux guest. I swear it was working in the past! I tried uninstalling and reinstalling sendmail and that didn't do it. Mar 19 16:39:26 blue sendmail 2459Y: g2K0dQp02456: SYSERR(marcy): Cannot exec /usr/bin/uux: No such file or directory It's not there. Where'd it go?
SAP on Z
Looks like 64 bit SuSE is already support, is that GA yet? http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/faq/pdf/mysap_on_linuxforz_faq.pdf?t=gr,l=335,p=mySAP Regards, Jon Jon R. Doyle Sendmail Inc. 6425 Christie Ave Emeryville, Ca. 94608 (o_ (o_ (o_ //\ (/)_ (\)_ V_/_
Re: 64bit distributions.
When i spoke to SuSE in NYC there is a version for iSeries, there is systems running here for IA64, and there is kernels for Sparc64, and Pseries 64. SuSE by far has the technical edge all the time. Regards, Jon Jon R. Doyle Sendmail Inc. 6425 Christie Ave Emeryville, Ca. 94608 (o_ (o_ (o_ //\ (/)_ (\)_ V_/_ On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, Post, Mark K wrote: According to http://news.com.com/2100-1001-842633.html: At this moment, we plan to release it officially in late April. A beta version will be available soon, confirmed Holger Dyroff, director of SuSE's North American sales operation. Red Hat declined to comment. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Dignus account [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 8:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 64bit distributions. Does anyone have the latest news on 64-bit Linux distributions? Who is doing what and where to download?
Re: 64bit distributions.
Right to a point, after all it is the technical people they employ, like Andrea, Schwab and others that make the edge possible. THese folks turn that cde out to public areas under GPL, so , yes, getting the package with Yast and support, whatever, makes the product have a price, but the technology is different, benefits many. Regards, Jon Jon R. Doyle Sendmail Inc. 6425 Christie Ave Emeryville, Ca. 94608 (o_ (o_ (o_ //\ (/)_ (\)_ V_/_ On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, Holger Baxmann wrote: Pseries 64. SuSE by far has the technical edge all the time. ^-- commercial just a rothut :) bax
Domino support
Funny, this here says all IBM @server platforms Should hold them to this claim :~) Unless they dropped Zseries from the @server line :~) http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/solutions/collaboration/ Regards, Jon Jon R. Doyle Sendmail Inc. 6425 Christie Ave Emeryville, Ca. 94608 (o_ (o_ (o_ //\ (/)_ (\)_ V_/_
Re: SSHD at boot
On SuSE this is placed into /etc/init.d/rc.config as START_SSHD=YES /etc/rc.d/init.d ? Oh, right that is the runlevels on RH. Solaris, SuSE blah blah use /etc/init.d think that is system 5 or LSB some such standard, not sure why RH adds the other layer. Regards, Jon Jon R. Doyle Sendmail Inc. 6425 Christie Ave Emeryville, Ca. 94608 (o_ (o_ (o_ //\ (/)_ (\)_ V_/_ On Wed, 27 Feb 2002, John Summerfield wrote: I am trying to start sshd at boot time. Currently I can only start it manually by: ./etc/rc.d/init.d/sshd start Where is it normally initialized at boot? Red Hat? chkconfig --list chkconfig sshd on man chkconfig -- Cheers John Summerfield Microsoft's most solid OS: http://www.geocities.com/rcwoolley/ Note: mail delivered to me is deemed to be intended for me, for my disposition.
Re: SSHD at boot
Humm, right, I think the LSB thing might be where this came in, seems I remember that RH on or around 7.2 started supporting LSB too, I thnk I saw them talk about this or it was the LSB folks in NY last month at LWE. Regards, Jon On 2/26/02 1:45 PM, John Summerfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On SuSE this is placed into /etc/init.d/rc.config as START_SSHD=YES /etc/rc.d/init.d ? Oh, right that is the runlevels on RH. Solaris, SuSE blah blah use /etc/init.d think that is system 5 or LSB some such standard, not sure why RH adds the other layer. So far as you're concerned, RH uses /etc/init.d too. It used to use the other, but changed before S/390. There's a bit of symlinkery in some circumstances for compatibility with things that understand the old way better. -- Cheers John Summerfield Microsoft's most solid OS: http://www.geocities.com/rcwoolley/ Note: mail delivered to me is deemed to be intended for me, for my disposition.
Re: Is one distribution better than another
Depends upon how YOU personally feel about technology vs peception/marketing. Often the best technology does not win, look around at Exchange vs GroupWise or Intel and Alpha chips. Windows vs OSX or Redhat vs SuSE. Do not remember who told me this, but my favorite line on we American's buying habits is reality is our perception Never forget the line at midnight on Market Street in San Francisco at the CompUSA to buy WindowsME :~0 Nobody could tell me exactly WHY they were buying the upgrade, just that something in there had to be had. Regards, Jon Jon R. Doyle Sendmail Inc. 6425 Christie Ave Emeryville, Ca. 94608 (o_ (o_ (o_ //\ (/)_ (\)_ V_/_ On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, James Johnson wrote: Assuming installation and configuration is just a matter of learning something new, is there any reason to favor one of the Linux/390 distributions over the others? -- James JohnsonEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systems Programmer Voice: 660-543-8065 Central Missouri State UniversityFax: 660-543-8123
Re: SSHD at boot
No sure about that, you should read the LSB docs for builds, certainly has changed. Right, SuSE did place a symlink there for the RH RPM's But calling this Standard is a little far, Solaris and system V are /etc/init.d But, anybody can make a standard I guess, just have to get people to follow it is the trick or be a monopoly like Microsoft and change an RFC because you want to put stupid hooks into it for your own selfish pleasure, and demand that people use it :~0) Regards, Jon Jon R. Doyle Sendmail Inc. 6425 Christie Ave Emeryville, Ca. 94608 (o_ (o_ (o_ //\ (/)_ (\)_ V_/_ On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Rick Troth wrote: On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Jon R. Doyle wrote: /etc/rc.d/init.d ? Oh, right that is the runlevels on RH. Solaris, SuSE blah blah use /etc/init.d think that is system 5 or LSB some such standard, not sure why RH adds the other layer. /etc/rc.d/init.d should be (as in if it is not, then make it so) a sym-link to /etc/init.d, iff your distro or system uses the latter. That is, the standard place people and packages look to find INIT scripts is /etc/rc.d/init.d. Build for, and train for, widest operability and least astonishment.
Re: SSHD at boot
Not necessary, just add the variable YES in rc.config for START_SSHD=. This file is located in /etc All lot of options are placed here and the script SuSEconfig builds everything for you. You can also do this through YAST with System Admin and then change configuration file You need to have the package installed of course. SLES vs the 2.2 kernel seem to differ on that, meaning it looks like ssh is not installed on 2.2 ver. Regards, Jon Jon R. Doyle Sendmail Inc. 6425 Christie Ave Emeryville, Ca. 94608 (o_ (o_ (o_ //\ (/)_ (\)_ V_/_ On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Rengasamy, Samy wrote: Create a shell script 'sshd' with the following line /sbin/sshd or /actual-path-of-ssh-installed/sshd in directory /etc/rc.d Then create a link S10sshd to /etc/rc.d/sshd at directory /etc/rc.d/rc2.d Then on reboots, sshd will start running. This is specific to SuSe. Red Hat may have a different requirement. Thanks, Samy Rengasamy. -Original Message- From: Christopher W Gibson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 1:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SSHD at boot I am trying to start sshd at boot time. Currently I can only start it manually by: ./etc/rc.d/init.d/sshd start Where is it normally initialized at boot? Thank You, Christopher Gibson
Advanced Server from Redhat no ISO's
Looks like the way Redhat will go is similar to the SuSE model for Enterprise Server. http://news.com.com/2100-1001-823736.html Regards, Jon Jon R. Doyle Sendmail Inc. 6425 Christie Ave Emeryville, Ca. 94608 (o_ (o_ (o_ //\ (/)_ (\)_ V_/_
Re: [Redhat-s390-list] Redhat demo
OK, but if I bought SuSE and (SLES comes with support) I would not expect anything from Redhat. You, or Florian rather are just saying that RH has support, that right? If this is the case it would help to say that you offer it like SuSE and Turbo, nothing new, it seemed like the message was saying somehow RH only has support. Redhat is new to zSeries/enterprise (Itanium,iSeries,pSeries etc). The messae seemed to indicate that it (Redhat) was capable of something new. Regards, Jon Jon R. Doyle Sendmail Inc. 6425 Christie Ave Emeryville, Ca. 94608 (o_ (o_ (o_ //\ (/)_ (\)_ V_/_ On Sat, 12 Jan 2002, Bernhard Rosenkraenzer wrote: On Sat, 12 Jan 2002, Jon R. Doyle wrote: ---SNIP--- If you buy the product from Red Hat, this is only available together with a support contract where Red Hat helps with the installation as well as later on supporting it if you discover defects. --SNIP-- Does this mean if I -buy- say SuSE they are not able to suport the product? No, it just says that if you buy Red Hat Linux, you'll automatically get a support contract. Your other option is to download it or use someone else's product and not to expect support *from us*. LLaP bero -- This message is provided to you under the terms outlined at http://www.bero.org/terms.html
Re: [Redhat-s390-list] Redhat demo
OK, right, I think there was a long thread on this subject in terms of SuSE and the cost of the Enterprise Server. From my memory of this thread the reason that SuSE S/390 SLES was more $'s is because it came with a support contract. Unless I am having a synaptic fault seems that both these companies are doing very similar characteristics with the product. Regards, Jon Jon R. Doyle Sendmail Inc. 6425 Christie Ave Emeryville, Ca. 94608 (o_ (o_ (o_ //\ (/)_ (\)_ V_/_ On Sat, 12 Jan 2002, Post, Mark K wrote: Jon, Florian, all, Just to provide another perspective on this (and to assure all the folks at Red Hat that they didn't totally botch what they were saying) I took this statement to mean what Florian and Bernhard later explained more clearly: that if you bought Red Hat Linux/390 that you had to pay for a Red Hat Linux/390 support contract also, not that they were the only company capable of providing support for Linux/390. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Jon R. Doyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 5:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Redhat-s390-list] Redhat demo Hi Florian; since you have been both at SuSE and now Redhat maybe you can clarify what you are saying here for me: ---SNIP--- If you buy the product from Red Hat, this is only available together with a support contract where Red Hat helps with the installation as well as later on supporting it if you discover defects. --SNIP-- Does this mean if I -buy- say SuSE they are not able to suport the product? What do you mean by this is only available together with a support contract I thought we heard here on the list a couple weks ago SuSE was offering Enterprise Server with suupoort? Is Redhat the only vendor out there now that can offer support? Regards, Jon Cc : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jon R. Doyle Sendmail Inc. 6425 Christie Ave Emeryville, Ca. 94608 (o_ (o_ (o_ //\ (/)_ (\)_ V_/_ On Sat, 12 Jan 2002, Florian La Roche wrote: On Sat, Jan 12, 2002 at 02:08:09AM -0500, Post, Mark K wrote: Dave, If they've posted the GA code on their FTP server, it should be available for download by anyone. The fact that they don't have .iso images isn't particularly relevant or important. I have not previously heard anything about Red Hat requiring that they do an installation. Perhaps that is only if you want to purchase a support contract from them. Even so, that would not prevent you from doing your own installs on another image/system. They just wouldn't be willing to support those installations. Still, if you get a definite answer, I'd be interested in hearing what it is. Stuff like this is important, and I would like to make sure it gets on the linuxvm.org web site. Hello Mark Post, your summary is correct and I'll add some personal comments: Red Hat Linux is Open Source and can be downloaded from our ftp-server. If you buy the product from Red Hat, this is only available together with a support contract where Red Hat helps with the installation as well as later on supporting it if you discover defects. Not only the last release is available as Open Source from Red Hat, but also newer developments are uploaded as rawhide versions to ftp.redhat.com. This allows the development community to try out our newest versions, participate in development if they want to or just give us feedback about the current status. This allows us to provide official bug-fixes and errata updates for our last release as well as continuing high-speed development of the next release. In the case of s390 we are facing two areas that are still a bit more under development: - The kernel on s390 needs more stabilization. - The install support for Red Hat Linux needs further improvements. Quite some good feedback has been given on our product and I think we already have implemented most of them. We will try to come up with an official update for the kernel and also install support. This should also allow a much easier addition of a driverdisk that could allow a real easy way to add OCO modules to Red Hat Linux. cu, Florian La Roche Florian La Roche Tel.: +49-711-96437-460 head of development EMEA Tel.: +49-172-6373899 Red Hat GmbH Fax.: +49-711-96437-111 Hauptstaetterstr. 58 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] D-70178 Stuttgarthttp://www.redhat.de/ Mark Post -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 11:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Redhat-s390-list] Redhat demo What are the Redhat ground rules for downloading and demo'ing their latest GA (i.e. the ISO images). Is anyone allowed to do
