volume resize
Hello all. We have some Linux servers with mod-a volumes which are 212k cylinders big. To Linux they are defined as fullpack minidisk 0-end. Now there is a request to resize this volume in storage device (DS8800). I found a presentation which says resizing EAV volume is transparent to z/OS and applications, what you need to do is just to run ICKDSF to recreate VTOC after the resize is done. But I did not find anything about z/VM and Linux. Disks don't contain data yet, they are just defined to VG, so in the worst case I can just undefine/define and dasdfmt. It just takes time to dasdfmt 200k cylinders. Anybody has any experience with this ? Thank you === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
dasdfmt
Hello all, I am not sure if I do something wrong here I format a DASD in CP as PERM. Then I provide this DASD to Linux as fullpack minidisk, 0-END. When I issue lsdasd I see the disk is not formatted, as expected. From CP I can see the volume serial on disk via Q rdev Then I run dasdfmt with a -k parameter to preserve a volume serial, it complains that there is no volume serial on the disk. If I run dasdfmt -l volser, it works as expected and sets the volume serial. So either I do something wrong or dasdfmt can set but not read the volume serial. Any ideas ? It is RHEL 5.6 Thank you === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
multipath.conf question
Hello all, RHEL 5.6, I have one disk with PAV aliases and five disks without aliases in Linux lsdasd reports 0.0.0201 alias ECKD 0.0.0202 alias ECKD 0.0.0203 alias ECKD 0.0.0100 active dasda 94:0 ECKD 4096 10265MB 2628000 0.0.0101 active dasdb 94:4 ECKD 4096 10265MB 2628000 0.0.0102 active dasdc 94:8 ECKD 4096 25536MB 6537420 0.0.0103 active dasdd 94:12 FBA 512 256MB 524288 0.0.0104 active dasde 94:16 ECKD 4096 7042MB 1802880 0.0.0200 active dasdag 94:128 ECKD 4096 23033MB 5896620 Now I want dasdag to be multipathed while dasda-dasde to be ignored by multipath. So my first step was to use blacklist { devnode dasda } But it blacklists also dasdag ! [root@hqmalnx1 ~]# multipath -d -v 2|grep dasda [root@hqmalnx1 ~]# If I try blacklist { devnode dasda. (see the dot at the end) } It will blacklist dasdag, that is expected, but not what I want to achieve [root@hqmalnx1 ~]# multipath -d -v 2|grep dasda \_ 0:0:256:0 dasda 94:0 [undef][ready] So dasda. works as expected, but dasda works more like dasda*. The only solution that worked for me was this blacklist { devnode dasda } blacklist_exceptions { devnode dasda. ... [root@hqmalnx1 ~]# multipath -d -v 2|grep dasda \_ 0:0:512:0 dasdag 94:128 [undef][ready] \_ 0:0:513:0 dasdah 94:132 [undef][ready] \_ 0:0:514:0 dasdai 94:136 [undef][ready] \_ 0:0:515:0 dasdaj 94:140 [undef][ready] Right now I am not sure if it will work also with dasd[a-z]. and similar. The best solution would be if I can use just blacklist, no exceptions and it will blacklist anything higher that dasdz. Any ideas how to do that ? Thank you === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: multipath.conf question
Pedro, this would be true for RHEL 6.1 which supports HyperPAV and also provides transparent usage of PAVs. But it requires kernel 2.6.25+ while RHEL 5.6 is 2.6.17. === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. From: Pedro Principeza pedro...@br.ibm.com To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 9:33 PM Subject: Re: multipath.conf question Greetings! I might be absurdly wrong, but I guess PAV does not need dm-multipath to work, does it? My understanding came from the following presentation. http://www.vm.ibm.com/education/lvc/lvc0510c.pdf HTH, Pedro Principeza From: Marian Gasparovic mar...@yahoo.com To: LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu Date: 31/08/2011 16:20 Subject: multipath.conf question Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@vm.marist.edu Hello all, RHEL 5.6, I have one disk with PAV aliases and five disks without aliases in Linux lsdasd reports 0.0.0201 alias ECKD 0.0.0202 alias ECKD 0.0.0203 alias ECKD 0.0.0100 active dasda 94:0 ECKD 4096 10265MB 2628000 0.0.0101 active dasdb 94:4 ECKD 4096 10265MB 2628000 0.0.0102 active dasdc 94:8 ECKD 4096 25536MB 6537420 0.0.0103 active dasdd 94:12 FBA 512 256MB 524288 0.0.0104 active dasde 94:16 ECKD 4096 7042MB 1802880 0.0.0200 active dasdag 94:128 ECKD 4096 23033MB 5896620 Now I want dasdag to be multipathed while dasda-dasde to be ignored by multipath. So my first step was to use blacklist { devnode dasda } But it blacklists also dasdag ! [root@hqmalnx1 ~]# multipath -d -v 2|grep dasda [root@hqmalnx1 ~]# If I try blacklist { devnode dasda. (see the dot at the end) } It will blacklist dasdag, that is expected, but not what I want to achieve [root@hqmalnx1 ~]# multipath -d -v 2|grep dasda \_ 0:0:256:0 dasda 94:0 [undef][ready] So dasda. works as expected, but dasda works more like dasda*. The only solution that worked for me was this blacklist { devnode dasda } blacklist_exceptions { devnode dasda. ... [root@hqmalnx1 ~]# multipath -d -v 2|grep dasda \_ 0:0:512:0 dasdag 94:128 [undef][ready] \_ 0:0:513:0 dasdah 94:132 [undef][ready] \_ 0:0:514:0 dasdai 94:136 [undef][ready] \_ 0:0:515:0 dasdaj 94:140 [undef][ready] Right now I am not sure if it will work also with dasd[a-z]. and similar. The best solution would be if I can use just blacklist, no exceptions and it will blacklist anything higher that dasdz. Any ideas how to do that ? Thank you === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: dasdfmt
I received several responses suggesting not to use 0-END but rather 1-END. I should have mentioned the reason why I do this - the disk in question is mod-a with 212k cylinders. CP (and hence also DirMaint) does not support minidisk bigger than 65,519 cylinders. And I cannot carve up this disk to many small disks for management reasons. Just imagine, I would neeed to use 4 disks instead of one. As it is RHEL 5.6 I need to use multipathing for PAV which gives me 16 devices to work with instead of 4. And I will have several of theses mod-a volumes available in a single Linux. That is why I use 0-END which forces me to take care of volume serial in Linux because I need to keep the volume serial names consistent to naming scheme. === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Marian Gasparovic mar...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello all, I am not sure if I do something wrong here I format a DASD in CP as PERM. Then I provide this DASD to Linux as fullpack minidisk, 0-END. When I issue lsdasd I see the disk is not formatted, as expected. From CP I can see the volume serial on disk via Q rdev Then I run dasdfmt with a -k parameter to preserve a volume serial, it complains that there is no volume serial on the disk. If I run dasdfmt -l volser, it works as expected and sets the volume serial. So either I do something wrong or dasdfmt can set but not read the volume serial. Any ideas ? It is RHEL 5.6 Thank you -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: SLES 11 SP 1 - Install - Part 2
Dave, in Cygwin console (cmd window) enter xhost + command, it will allow remote machines to connect to your local X server. (my apologies if this email came three times, my yahoo session behaved strangely) === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. --- On Tue, 10/19/10, David Stuart david.stu...@ventura.org wrote: From: David Stuart david.stu...@ventura.org Subject: Re: SLES 11 SP 1 - Install - Part 2 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: Tuesday, October 19, 2010, 1:08 AM Mark, I had been trying to use the GUI, as that is what I've been using all along, with the command 'ssh -X @'. It had ben working fine, up until the reboot. I'll try -Y. I also tried /usr/lib/YaST2/startup/YaST2.ssh, but nothing ever came up to continue the install. Dave Dave Stuart Prin. Info. Systems Support Analyst County of Ventura, CA 805-662-6731 david.stu...@ventura.org Mark Post mp...@novell.com 10/18/2010 4:00 PM On 10/18/2010 at 02:34 PM, David Stuart david.stu...@ventura.org wrote: -snip- Except that I can't the second part of the install to run. I've been using ssh under Cygwin, with X11 forwarding to run yast for the first part of the installation. But now, when I log in, I receive two messages: Warning: untrusted X11 forwarding setup failed: xauth key data not generated Warning: No xauth data; using fake authentication data for X11 forwarding And no matter what I do, I can't get the install to continue where it left off. Are you trying to use the text mode installer via SSH, or the GUI? If the text mode, then you should be executing /usr/lib/YaST2/startup/YaST2.ssh to continue the install. If that's what you're doing then try running unset DISPLAY before executing it. If you're using the GUI, make sure that xorg-x11-xauth is one of the RPMs that gets installed. If it is, try connecting to the system using ssh -Y which enables trusted X11 forwarding. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: DASD offline
dasd_configure in SLES11 or edit zipl.conf in SLES10 === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. --- On Mon, 10/11/10, Mark Pace pacemainl...@gmail.com wrote: From: Mark Pace pacemainl...@gmail.com Subject: Re: DASD offline To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: Monday, October 11, 2010, 5:09 PM I went back and did everything via YAST instead of manually, and now the DASD comes up online on a reboot. On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Gary Detro de...@us.ibm.com wrote: Is the DASD device attached to the system? Just a thought. Thanks, Detro Three things are certain: Death, taxes, and lost data. Guess which has occurred? From: Mark Pace pacemainl...@gmail.com To -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: FW: CNET: IBM names Firefox its default browser
I have been using FF in IBM (on Windows XP) since 2004 as my default browser. It happens about once in two weeks I have to use IE because some specific pages don't work well with FF. It was not internally supported for some time, so it was not possible to complain. Since it became supported, incompatible pages inside IBM were greatly reduced. === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. --- On Thu, 7/1/10, John Campbell soup...@gmail.com wrote: From: John Campbell soup...@gmail.com Subject: Re: FW: CNET: IBM names Firefox its default browser To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: Thursday, July 1, 2010, 7:12 PM McKown, John wrote: http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20009387-264.html When I was an IBMer I was one of those using the Linux Client For E-Business build (IMHO very well assembled on top of RHEL4 WS) which, given the CIO's decree that all internal web-based applications MUST be Browser Agnostic (unlike my experiences as Verizon and elsewhere) it made the use of Firefox to be no problem. Firefox is common to at least *three* platforms-- Windows, Linux and MacOS X-- so this actually cuts costs in terms of Quality Assurance when a web application is being rolled out. (Actually, it has been a while, but I seem to recall seeing a Firefox build for AIX, too.) -soup -- John R. Campbell Speaker to Machines souperb at gmail dot com MacOS X proved it was easier to make Unix user-friendly than to fix Windows -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For more information on Linux on System z, visit http://wiki.linuxvm.org/
Re: New Virtualization Cookbook for z/VM 6.1 and SLES 11
Then we get back to the same old issue with wikis - authoritative updates. Were users to be using such an article, they could justifiably feel severely pissed off were it to have been incorrectly updated, and they were led astray. Comes back to that Redbook credence I mentioned. I cannot agree more. Especially for this kind of book. It is a step by step guide, where each step depends on previous steps. We really did every step and tested it. You cannot do anything like this in a wiki, you need authors to access the same resources. Just getting a machine for such a project is not easy, we were lucky Mike could get his hands on one for some limited time. In wiki, you can have consistent parts, but not a consistent book. Not to mention tested book. Of course the cookbook is not perfect, there are many areas Mike would like to improve, other areas I would like to improve, but given the time constraints and resources... It helps if you go to redbooks site and give comments, they come to management... === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SLES11 - lots of errors streaming by when trying to bring up yast2 gui
Hi Bernie, how do you run it ? I start vncserver, connect there via vncviewer from my desktop and run yast2 from xterm. I get no error at all. Are you using full blown desktop ? I see some gnome in your output... === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. --- On Fri, 1/8/10, Bernie Wu bernard...@ncci.com wrote: From: Bernie Wu bernard...@ncci.com Subject: SLES11 - lots of errors streaming by when trying to bring up yast2 gui To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: Friday, January 8, 2010, 3:20 PM Hi List, When I try to bring up yast2 , I see a whole lot of errors streaming by and eventually, the gui pops up. The last screen full looks like this: ** (y2controlcenter-gnome:7344): WARNING **: error accessing /desktop/gnome/applications/y2cc-gnome/cc_actions_list [Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash. See http://www.gnome.org/projects/gconf/ for information. (Details - 1: Failed to get connection to session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-4D27UNctUa: Connection refused)] Has anyone encountered this ? How can I avoid getting these errors ? The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. This message may be an attorney-client communication and/or work product and as such is privileged and confidential. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SLES11 - lots of errors streaming by when trying to bring up yast2 gui
Bernie, I tried similar (ssh with X11 forwarding and xlivecd on my desktop to provide X server), again, no problem. It must be something on your SLES11 side. What software groups have you installed ? I unselected all three boxes under Graphical Environment when I installed SLES11. I kept Base System, 32-bit, Documentation and Minimal System. Just those four. === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. --- On Fri, 1/8/10, Bernie Wu bernard...@ncci.com wrote: From: Bernie Wu bernard...@ncci.com Subject: Re: SLES11 - lots of errors streaming by when trying to bring up yast2 gui To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: Friday, January 8, 2010, 4:33 PM Hi Marian, On my desktop, I use Xming to start the Xserver. On my guest, I export DISPLAY to my desktop. I then issue yast2 -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Marian Gasparovic Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 10:31 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: SLES11 - lots of errors streaming by when trying to bring up yast2 gui Hi Bernie, how do you run it ? I start vncserver, connect there via vncviewer from my desktop and run yast2 from xterm. I get no error at all. Are you using full blown desktop ? I see some gnome in your output... === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. --- On Fri, 1/8/10, Bernie Wu bernard...@ncci.com wrote: From: Bernie Wu bernard...@ncci.com Subject: SLES11 - lots of errors streaming by when trying to bring up yast2 gui To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: Friday, January 8, 2010, 3:20 PM Hi List, When I try to bring up yast2 , I see a whole lot of errors streaming by and eventually, the gui pops up. The last screen full looks like this: ** (y2controlcenter-gnome:7344): WARNING **: error accessing /desktop/gnome/applications/y2cc-gnome/cc_actions_list [Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash. See http://www.gnome.org/projects/gconf/ for information. (Details - 1: Failed to get connection to session: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-4D27UNctUa: Connection refused)] Has anyone encountered this ? How can I avoid getting these errors ? The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. This message may be an attorney-client communication and/or work product and as such is privileged and confidential. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. This message may be an attorney-client communication and/or work product and as such is privileged and confidential. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists
Re: SLES11 - lots of errors streaming by when trying to bring up yast2 gui
So when you set X forward in Putty (which sets your DISPLAY variable) instead of setting DISPLAY yourself, you don't get those error messages ? No other change ? I use only X forwarding as I access SLES11 behind firewall, so I cannot try the manual setting (I always get cannot open display). === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. --- On Fri, 1/8/10, Bernie Wu bernard...@ncci.com wrote: From: Bernie Wu bernard...@ncci.com Subject: Re: SLES11 - lots of errors streaming by when trying to bring up yast2 gui To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: Friday, January 8, 2010, 8:21 PM Thanks Mark. That's where I fell short. Just make sure your SSH client has X forwarding turned on. I modified my PuTTY configuration, and now I don't have to export my display. The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. This message may be an attorney-client communication and/or work product and as such is privileged and confidential. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: sles11 - adding dasd yast problem
Sue, use dasd_configure command. It brings device online and also makes sure it will come online after next IPL. for example dasd_configure 0.0.0105 1 === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. --- On Thu, 1/7/10, Sue Sivets ssiv...@fdrinnovation.com wrote: From: Sue Sivets ssiv...@fdrinnovation.com Subject: sles11 - adding dasd yast problem To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: Thursday, January 7, 2010, 4:18 AM I have just finished installing Sles 11, and now I need to add two mini-disks. The first is read only, the second is read-write. I tried running mkinitrd zipl like I would for sles10, but it doesn't seem to be working. Mkinitrd is only writing 6 or 8 lines to the console (it writes almost a screen full on sles10), and it seems to be changing the disk identifier from dasdc dasdd to dasda or dasdb so that /etc/fstab ends up being correct for the current ipl, but not the next. I guess zipl is working, at least the system seems to boot. If I run mkinitrd zipl manually, the new disks don't seem to be picked up and added to the dasd configuration so they are avail for the next ipl. If I use yast-hardware-dasd to activate them, then the dasd id is changed, and the disks seem to be varied online at the next ipl. How do I get the dasd added and mounted at each ipl? Can I add dasd without using yast and if so how? What commands do I need to run? Problem #2 - When I try to run yast2, I get an error message that Xlib: extension RANDR missing on display localhost:10.0 along with a bunch of other messages. I thought I saw something about Gnome in an earlier error message, and I did not install either Gnome of KDE since I was doing a z/linux install, and neither of these have worked very well on previous sles versions. yast seems to work so far, but I much prefer yast2. Can anyone shed any light on either of these problems? Thank you Sue Sivets -- Suzanne Sivets Systems Programmer Innovation Data Processing 275 Paterson Ave Little Falls, NJ 07424-1658 973-890-7300 Fax 973-890-7147 ssiv...@fdrinnovation.com This email (and attachments, if any) is confidential and access by anyone other than the addressee(s) is unauthorized. We would appreciate your notifying the sender and supp...@fdrinnovation.com immediately if you are not the intended recipient of this message. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
strange performance issue
Hello all, I have a strange question from customer. They claim, their C/C++ application performs purely when running as non-root. Under root it performs well. I have no other info ! Not even what exactly is the nature of application, I know they use threads there and message queuing (not MQ, but built-in). They have z10 BC, two IFLs, no z/.VM, it is just one LPAR PoC project. RHEL 5. And this is the exact copy/paste of their question. quote What environment variables or other system setting we should set in order to run as fast as when it is started by root? What are limits when setting thread priority (lowest = -10, highest = 10 or)? /quote I know this is just a wild shot with so little info, but maybe it rings any bell to anybody ? Any idea ? Thank you === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: LUN numbers for DS8000
Caleb, run showvolgrp command on DS8000 with lunmap parameter. You can see those 40ab40cd there. Just add 8 zeroes to the end and you have your WW name. If you still cannot access them it can be zoning on switch, or lun masking on DS8000. dscli showvolgrp -lunmap v0 ... Name volgrp1 ID V0 Type SCSI Mask Vols 1100 1101 1102 1103 1104 1105 2011 2013 2021 2023 2031 2033 2081 2100 2101 2110 2112 2114 2120 2122 2124 2130 2132 2134 2180 2182 2190 ==LUN Mapping=== vol lun = 1100 40114000 1101 40114001 1102 40114002 1103 40114003 1104 40114004 1105 40114005 2011 40204011 2013 40204013 2021 40204021 2023 40204023 2031 40204031 2033 40204033 2081 40204081 2100 40214000 2101 40214001 2110 40214010 2112 40214012 2114 40214014 2120 40214020 2122 40214022 2124 40214024 2130 40214030 2132 40214032 2134 40214034 2180 40214080 2182 40214082 2190 40214090 === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. --- On Tue, 12/15/09, Caleb C Ong on...@ph.ibm.com wrote: From: Caleb C Ong on...@ph.ibm.com Subject: LUN numbers for DS8000 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 6:12 PM Hi, Is there any way to determine the LUN numbers to be used for zlinux (redhat or suse) installation. I have a z10 with ds8300 disk. Connected thru fcp thru a san switch. storage admin gave me a four digit lun number x1600. In ESS800, i just used to add 12 zeros to it. But that doesn't seem to work with ds8300. I found this hint on the how to use fc attached scsi devices on linux z feb 2007' There are three things you should be aware of when configuring the TotalStorage system: New mask: For the logical volume number X’abcd’ the LUN ID will be: X’40ab40cd’. So i tried LUN number 40164000 but i still cannot add zfcp disk using the installation gui. I also found this redpaper on 'where are the lun number on a ds8000 . How to convert the LUN ID in DS8000 to the FCP LUN ID in Linux The FCP LUN ID in Linux is written in hexadecimal and must be exactly 16 hexadecimal digits. We use the showvolgrp command to get every LUN ID in the DS8000 for each volume. All of our devices used only the high-order four digits of the 16 hexadecimal digit LUN address. We just add two zeros before the two-digit LUN ID in the DS8000, and then add another 12 zeros behind these four digits. Therefore, we place 16 hexadecimal digits for our FCP LUN ID into Linux. For example, the LUN ID of logical volume 1000 is 02. After adding two zeros before it and 12 zeros behind it, it becomes 0x0002. We can use these 16 hexadecimal digits as our Linux FCP mapping. I don't think i understand this, if you add two zero in front, then doesn't that limit the number of lun to just 255 for a ds8300 ? Maybe i am not understanding this correctly. Thanks. Caleb C. Ong -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Redhat on FCP
Hi, I have a question from customer. They try to install RedHat 5.4 into LPAR, so no z/VM involved. Not DASD but SCSI disks. They are able to install it, but without multipath for root. I have this link http://kbase.redhat.com/faq/docs/DOC-15673 which explains how to make root filesystem multipathed, but it says it can be done only during installation. And it modifies parmfile (ok, that can be done with reburning DVD) but that points to CONF file which is on CMS disk. They say they cannot specify fcp1 and fcp2 during install, only one and then disk is on single path. Any idea ? Thank you === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Redhat on FCP
Hi Brad, I already have a solution from Poughkeepsie test (thank you Sarah). The trick is to use FTP (not DVD) install together with parmfile which can be modified this way. The problem that hit me is RHEL doc, which talks about parmfile only in z/VM install section and sample parm files in doc always use CMSDISK parameter. BTW, in general, parmfile usage is not documented very well in my opinion. When you can modify parmfile, just adding mpath keyword should save the day I will see tomorrow. === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. --- On Wed, 12/2/09, Brad Hinson bhin...@redhat.com wrote: From: Brad Hinson bhin...@redhat.com Subject: Re: Redhat on FCP To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: Wednesday, December 2, 2009, 9:43 PM Hi Marian, That should be FCP_1, FCP_2, and so on. Can they specify them like this? The idea is to specify all the LUNs, and the installer will see that they're all really the same multipath'd LUN. -Brad Marian Gasparovic wrote: Hi, I have a question from customer. They try to install RedHat 5.4 into LPAR, so no z/VM involved. Not DASD but SCSI disks. They are able to install it, but without multipath for root. I have this link http://kbase.redhat.com/faq/docs/DOC-15673 which explains how to make root filesystem multipathed, but it says it can be done only during installation. And it modifies parmfile (ok, that can be done with reburning DVD) but that points to CONF file which is on CMS disk. They say they cannot specify fcp1 and fcp2 during install, only one and then disk is on single path. Any idea ? Thank you === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- Brad Hinson bhin...@redhat.com Sr. Support Engineer Lead, System z Red Hat, Inc. (919) 754-4198 www.redhat.com/z -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: sles11 install question
Strange. So what is wrong with this parameter file ? ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram1 ro init=/linuxrc TERM=dumb HostIP=9.60.18.224 Hostname=gpok224 Gateway=9.60.18.129 Netmask=255.255.252.0 Broadcast=9.60.18.255 Layer2=0 ReadChannel=0.0.0600 WriteChannel=0.0.0601 DataChannel=0.0.0602 Nameserver=9.0.2.11 portname=whatever portno=0 Install=nfs://9.60.18.133/nfs/sles11/SLES-11-DVD-s390x-GM-DVD1.iso UseVNC=1 VNCPassword=12345678 InstNetDev=osa OsaInterface=qdio OsaMedium=eth Manual=0 Network is fine, when I make intentional error in network setting it complains. What is your memory setting for installation ? My guest was 512MB. === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. --- On Tue, 12/1/09, Mark Post mp...@novell.com wrote: From: Mark Post mp...@novell.com Subject: Re: sles11 install question To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 12:12 AM On 11/26/2009 at 10:30 AM, Marian Gasparovic mar...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, when installing SLES via NFS I used to point parmfile directly to .iso image of SLES DVD, without loopmounting it. But on SLES11 I am getting an error. Loading file:/mounts/mp_/SLES-11-DVD-s390x-GM-DVD1.iso - failed *** Could not find the SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 Repository. Activating manual setup program. And then manual setup starts. I checked documentation, this possibility is not mentioned there, they use iso loop-mounted on NFS. Any idea if this feature was dropped or I do something wrong ? It works for me. My parmfile looks like this: ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram1 ro init=/linuxrc TERM=dumb HostIP=10.10.220.118 Gateway=10.10.0.8 Nameserver=10.10.0.1 Portname=None Portno=0 Manual=0 Layer2=0 InstNetDev=osa OsaInterface=qdio OsaMedium=eth ReadChannel=0.0.0700 WriteChannel=0.0.0701 DataChannel=0.0.0702 UseVNC=1 VNCPassword=pass4root Netmask=255.255.0.0 UseSSH=1 SSHPassword=pass4root Netmask=255.255.0.0 install=nfs://10.10.0.20/SLE11/iso/SLES-11-DVD-s390x-GM-DVD1.iso Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
sles11 install question
Hi, when installing SLES via NFS I used to point parmfile directly to .iso image of SLES DVD, without loopmounting it. But on SLES11 I am getting an error. Loading file:/mounts/mp_/SLES-11-DVD-s390x-GM-DVD1.iso - failed *** Could not find the SUSE Linux Enterprise Server 11 Repository. Activating manual setup program. And then manual setup starts. I checked documentation, this possibility is not mentioned there, they use iso loop-mounted on NFS. Any idea if this feature was dropped or I do something wrong ? Thank you === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: adding DASD on SUSE
Mark, as dasd= parm in zipl.conf is not used now, how can I check which DASDs were supposed to be online ? Thank you === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. --- On Fri, 11/13/09, Mark Post mp...@novell.com wrote: From: Mark Post mp...@novell.com Subject: Re: adding DASD on SUSE To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 11:01 PM On 11/13/2009 at 4:41 PM, Mark Ver mark...@us.ibm.com wrote: What I was really interested in was the Linux side configuration to add the disk permanently so that it would be online during boot up. Like were most people ... - just running a big script calling dasd_configure as Mark Post had suggested This brings the volume online _and_ creates the hwcfg file for it, thus making it permanent in the sense it will be online when you reach runlevel 3 at the next reboot. Even better, it's supported. - or do most just do chccwdev and then run mkinitrd and zipl This will not make it permanent in any practical sense, - or copy an old hwcfg-dasd-bus-ccw-* file, run mkinitrd/zipl if needed, and reboot. Not recommended, but you get to keep all the pieces. - or modify the options dasd_mod line with a dasd=dasd-list parameter in the appropriate modprobe.conf - or add a dasd=dasd-list in their kernel parameters - or use yast to add the disks (including patiently adding it all one at a time during installation). Also supported, but for large numbers of volumes, certainly not recommended. The thing you need to understand about the Linux 2.6 kernels is that the system will detect any and all DASD volumes that are accessible to it during the boot process, or later if the volume is ATTACHed or configured online to the LPAR. The need to have the 'dasd=unit1,unit2,unit3' kernel parameter isn't there any longer, per se. If you want to have read-only disks and the like, that is still somewhat useful. The real question is how do you ensure that volumes you want online are indeed online after the next reboot. For one or two, use YaST. For bunches, use dasd_configure. Your fingers will thank you for it. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: adding DASD on SUSE
Tore, lsdasd shows disks that are online. My question is how ot find which disks were supposed to be online, in other words, which disks were configured by dasd_configure to be online on the next boot. Say you have 20 disks in your image, you realize something is missing (maybe some misconfig on VM side, or disk problem, whatever) and you want to check which dasd is not online although you set it to be online on each boot. === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. --- On Fri, 11/20/09, Agblad Tore tore.agb...@volvo.com wrote: From: Agblad Tore tore.agb...@volvo.com Subject: Re: adding DASD on SUSE To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 11:40 AM sudo /sbin/lsdasd to se what dasd is online su - (just for simplicity) lsdasd vmcp link VMUSERLX 300 300 MR = link to new disk added in VM profile chccwdev -e 300 = make it online, should now be visible with lsdasd ___ Tore Agblad Volvo Information Technology Infrastructure Mainframe Design Development, Linux servers Dept 4352 DA1S SE-405 08, Gothenburg Sweden Telephone: +46-31-3233569 E-mail: tore.agb...@volvo.com http://www.volvo.com/volvoit/global/en-gb/ -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Marian Gasparovic Sent: den 20 november 2009 11:26 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: adding DASD on SUSE Mark, as dasd= parm in zipl.conf is not used now, how can I check which DASDs were supposed to be online ? Thank you === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. --- On Fri, 11/13/09, Mark Post mp...@novell.com wrote: From: Mark Post mp...@novell.com Subject: Re: adding DASD on SUSE To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 11:01 PM On 11/13/2009 at 4:41 PM, Mark Ver mark...@us.ibm.com wrote: What I was really interested in was the Linux side configuration to add the disk permanently so that it would be online during boot up. Like were most people ... - just running a big script calling dasd_configure as Mark Post had suggested This brings the volume online _and_ creates the hwcfg file for it, thus making it permanent in the sense it will be online when you reach runlevel 3 at the next reboot. Even better, it's supported. - or do most just do chccwdev and then run mkinitrd and zipl This will not make it permanent in any practical sense, - or copy an old hwcfg-dasd-bus-ccw-* file, run mkinitrd/zipl if needed, and reboot. Not recommended, but you get to keep all the pieces. - or modify the options dasd_mod line with a dasd=dasd-list parameter in the appropriate modprobe.conf - or add a dasd=dasd-list in their kernel parameters - or use yast to add the disks (including patiently adding it all one at a time during installation). Also supported, but for large numbers of volumes, certainly not recommended. The thing you need to understand about the Linux 2.6 kernels is that the system will detect any and all DASD volumes that are accessible to it during the boot process, or later if the volume is ATTACHed or configured online to the LPAR. The need to have the 'dasd=unit1,unit2,unit3' kernel parameter isn't there any longer, per se. If you want to have read-only disks and the like, that is still somewhat useful. The real question is how do you ensure that volumes you want online are indeed online after the next reboot. For one or two, use YaST. For bunches, use dasd_configure. Your fingers will thank you for it. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit
Re: adding DASD on SUSE
Sorry, I was talking about SLES 11 which does not support dasd= parameter and does not use hwcfg files. Looks like the only solution now is to save lsdasd output when everything is ok. === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. --- On Fri, 11/20/09, Mark Post mp...@novell.com wrote: From: Mark Post mp...@novell.com Subject: Re: adding DASD on SUSE To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 4:15 PM On 11/20/2009 at 5:26 AM, Marian Gasparovic mar...@yahoo.com wrote: Mark, as dasd= parm in zipl.conf is not used now, how can I check which DASDs were supposed to be online ? Look in /etc/sysconfig/hardware/ for hwcfg files for DASD. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: adding DASD on SUSE
Thank you, that was exactly what I was looking for. === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. --- On Fri, 11/20/09, Mark Post mp...@novell.com wrote: From: Mark Post mp...@novell.com Subject: Re: adding DASD on SUSE To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: Friday, November 20, 2009, 4:38 PM On 11/20/2009 at 10:34 AM, Marian Gasparovic mar...@yahoo.com wrote: Sorry, I was talking about SLES 11 which does not support dasd= parameter and does not use hwcfg files. Oh. In that case, look in /etc/udev/rules.d/ for 51-dasd-*.rules files. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Using Virtualization Cookbook - SLES10 for SLES11
Judson, Those instructions were just a workaround for a problem which appeared when we updated the book from SLES 9 to SLES 10. Novell support was not even willing to admit there was a change in chroot behaviour, not to solve it. So I investigated what had to be done and those were the steps I came with. There might be again another change in SLES 11. I agree with Mike, look at updated cookbook, this time as a redbook. It does not use chroot and I like that approach more. As Mike says, there are tradeoffs, but I think it is much cleaner without chroot. === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. --- On Fri, 10/30/09, Michael MacIsaac mike...@us.ibm.com wrote: From: Michael MacIsaac mike...@us.ibm.com Subject: Re: Using Virtualization Cookbook - SLES10 for SLES11 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: Friday, October 30, 2009, 1:48 PM Judson, It seems you are starting with the SLES 10 Virtualization Cookbook on linuxvm.org. We did update that for SLES 10 SP2, in the form of a redbook. (see http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247493.html). That book changed the methodology of making the golden image a mount point of the controller (cloner) and had it in a separate virtual machine. There are tradeoffs to both approaches, but one plus to the new approach is that you never have to chroot into the golden image. Just something to think about. Any thoughts? Chroot'ing - a colleague pointed out to me that the more file systems you have mounted over the target environment, the better the chances of things behaving as you might expect in the chroot'ed environment. So, if the target environment that you plan to chroot into is /mnt/tgt/, you can mount the /dev/, /sys/ and /proc/ file systems as such: # mount --bind /dev /mnt/tgt/dev # mount -t proc none /mnt/tgt/proc # mount --bind /sys /mnt/tgt/sys So you might try that first. Hope it helps. Mike MacIsaac mike...@us.ibm.com (845) 433-7061 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@vm.marist.edu with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
ITSO Ruby Anniversary (your beloved redbooks have been here for 40 years)
Hello everybody, (cross posted to IBM-MAIN and Linux390) I am sure most of people on this list are also IBM Redbooks readers. Maybe you know, maybe not, ITSO celebrated it's Ruby Anniversary this year - that's 40 years of delivering IBM Redbooks publications. See more at http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks.nsf/pages/history?Open If you want, you can share your experience or success stories with ITSO redbooks or read what others have to say, by clicking on the Share your story link. Marian Gasparovic IBM Slovakia -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
PHP under SLES10 problem
Hi all, is there anybody who can help ? I received this from a customer, google shows several hits on different platforms but they are quite old. --- I cannot find the libphp5.so for the HTTP Server. From my investigation this is supplied by PHP or by Apache. The following 3 packages are installled under Linux: Apache2 2.2.0 which provides provides apache-mod_php5 5.1.2-29.14. apache-mod_php5 package contents says it supplies mod_php5.so, libphp5.so mod_any.so but libphp5.so is missing. Do I need to re-compile php5 to get this module? Also see this link: http://krook.net/php-ihs-websphere-db2 Thank you === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Starter System question
Thanks to everybody, documentation error is explained, depends on platform you use for ftp client. What about the other part of the question ? Has anybody installed Linux from Starter System via NFS ? Thank you Marian --- David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I configured NOVSTART, everything went fine, the only problem in documentation is missing quote in ftp commands. Could you be more specific? I'll be happy to fix it if I know where we missed something. Now I try to install Linux using NFS, but I get an error, it cannot initialize catalog (step just after preparing DASDs and before timezone). What is the error message? -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Starter System question
I configured NOVSTART, everything went fine, the only problem in documentation is missing quote in ftp commands. Now I try to install Linux using NFS, but I get an error, it cannot initialize catalog (step just after preparing DASDs and before timezone). I use /srv/repository. (btw, to get through NFS check in 3270 install screen, /srv/repository did not work, but /srv/repository/ did) When I use FTP, it works without a problem. Any idea ? Thank you === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Starter System question
David, I use VNC during install. After I format DASD I choose New Installation It displays message Initializing catalogs It takes long time and then I get Failed to initialize the catalog. Try again ? During that time I can see these repeated messages in novstart /var/log/messages Jan 9 16:55:42 novstart rpc.mountd: authenticated mount request from 9.12.5.24:904 for /srv/repository (/srv/repository) Jan 9 16:56:08 novstart rpc.mountd: authenticated mount request from 9.12.5.24:905 for /srv/repository (/srv/repository) Jan 9 16:56:18 novstart rpc.mountd: authenticated unmount request from 9.12.5.24:908 for /srv/repository (/srv/repository) Jan 9 16:56:28 novstart rpc.mountd: authenticated unmount request from 9.12.5.24:908 for /srv/repository (/srv/repository) Jan 9 16:56:38 novstart rpc.mountd: authenticated unmount request from 9.12.5.24:908 for /srv/repository (/srv/repository) Jan 9 16:56:48 novstart rpc.mountd: authenticated unmount request from 9.12.5.24:908 for /srv/repository (/srv/repository) Jan 9 16:56:58 novstart rpc.mountd: authenticated mount request from 9.12.5.24:909 for /srv/repository (/srv/repository) --- David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I configured NOVSTART, everything went fine, the only problem in documentation is missing quote in ftp commands. Could you be more specific? I'll be happy to fix it if I know where we missed something. Now I try to install Linux using NFS, but I get an error, it cannot initialize catalog (step just after preparing DASDs and before timezone). What is the error message? -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Possible license cost confirmation
Mark, how is it with reporting a bug/problem ? Do you need any special license/subscription/whatever for that ? Marian --- Mark Post [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jan 7, 2008 at 8:42 AM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED] com, Ceruti, Gerard G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- My take is that there are 2 sets of cost, 1: the SLES software itself, i.e. the DVD with the software on it, is this a once off cost, or a per CPU cost that has to be renewed yearly It is a one-time cost, but you don't even need to spend that money if you just download the DVD image from the Novell web site. Better yet (if you're running z/VM), download the starter system, and you get a pre-built network installation server with the installation files already there. 2: the costs for SLES maintenance, i.e. for the patch's and fix's, 2.1: does this also include Version upgrades, i.e. SLES 10 to SLES 11 as example or am I back to point 1 If your subscription is current, you are entitled to any new releases that come out during that period, as well as maintenance for any older releases. If you so choose, you can also buy support for those subscriptions, which means you will have the right to open up problem reports and get fixes for those problems. If you just choose the basic support, you get help with installation issues for 30 days, and maintenance for the entire subscription period. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Adding dasd with Red Hat
Kevin, it is strange, IBM should not give recommendations on one vendor over another. We all have our preferences, but I am strongly forbidden to tell customer which distribution to use. The only difference is if the support matrix shows support only for one vedor, which happens from time to time. Marian Gasparovic IBM Slovakia --- Evans, Kevin R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark, I'm glad that this worked for you (and those people here that you obviously help). I think that RH should maybe learn from this, but seems to me that they haven't yet. The story that I got from the FBI folks here that are working the Linux project on the mainframe tell me that the reason that we are using RHEL here is that IBM said that they supported both SLES and RHEL but recommended RHEL. I don't know at what level of IBM that recommendation came from. We have certainly seen issues here with which version of MQ Series we run under z/OS vs which version is supported under Linux with RHEL. We try to keep the same version across the board (which hasn't been possible yet). Kevin -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Post Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 11:33 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Adding dasd with Red Hat On Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 9:36 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Summerfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -snip- It might be on his job description, but probably not, he's here because he likes helping. When I first hired into the Linux Impact Team at Novell, I made sure that it would be on my job description. (At EDS, I was expected to get my real job done on top of whatever I did on my own time. Thanks to my co-workers picking up a lot of the slack, that was easier than it would have been otherwise.) My new job doesn't include this as part of it, but my manager is one of those that believes in doing what is right for the company, even if it's not part of his particular charter. (I've run into a number of those here, by the way. _Very_ refreshing.) The team that is officially responsible for fielding problems view me as more of a help than a bother, so we get along well. If I get something wrong, they know how to call me and set me straight. If they think I can help them on something, they don't hesitate to contact me. All of which is largely what I hoped for when I joined Novell. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SLES 10 cookbook
Russ, if you followed the book exactly step by step, you should not be getting any dependency errors. I went through that a lot of times before putting in on the paper (ehm, into FrameMaker). Be sure you do it in the right order and you include all of them, if you miss to remove one, you can get errors. Also if you configured customer center, remove those rpms first, as ddescribed in the book. HTH Marian Gasparovic IBM Slovakia --- Russ Burtnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a different question about the cookbook. I installed SLES 10, no not SP1, that's downloading right now. When I got to the section about removing RPMs that were not needed I kept getting errors due to dependencies. Is that because I didn't have SP1 or did I do something else wrong? Thanks... Russ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Defining an LPAR on a z box to run LINUX
Dave, if you have spare PU on your z890, I would strongly recommend to get IFL for test purposes which can be free for 3 or 6 months. It is also possible to get trial contract for z/VM, which is a good idea. Are your CPs on full speed or not ? If you assign one capped CP which you share with production, it will be wy slower than IFL which is full speed. And slow response is not a good start for PoC. We have many customers running Linux on z890 happily, most of my customers run it on IFL with or without z/VM. Marian Gasparovic IBM Slovakia --- Rakoczy, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes... We are in working with our IBM Rep, only problem is our purchasing department moves nowhere near as quickly as out IT department would like them too. Thanks to all who cleared this question up for me. I have a feeling I'll be back with additional inquiries as time go on. Thanks again. -Dave -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of RPN01 Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 8:57 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Defining an LPAR on a z box to run LINUX If you're doing a proof of concept, talk to your friendly IBM Sales Rep; you might just be able to talk him / her into turning on an IFL for POC purposes, and you won't have to impact your production workload at all. Just a thought -- .~.Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\RO-OE-5-55200 First Street SW /( )\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 ^^-^^ - In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different. On 7/31/07 7:30 AM, Peter Webb, Toronto Transit Commission [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just define your Linux LPAR as you would a z/OS LPAR. The CP type 'LINUX' refers to an IFL engine (Integrated Facility for Linux), which from your description you do not have. Yes, all LPARS assigned to a CP must be the same type. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Upgrading from SLES10 GA to SP1 in 9 Easy Steps
Aria, I updated SLES10 to SP1 and I am getting this lnxsu1:~ # SPident CONCLUSION: System is up-to-date! foundSLE-10-s390x-SP1 --- Aria Bamdad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1-After all packages are updated to SP1, if I issue SPident, get a System is NOT up-to-date. It seems like it finds SLES10 + updates and expects SLES10 SP1 even though I am at the SP1 kernel level and the system login prompt says I am at SP1 and so does /etc/SuSE-release. Anyone else sees this problem or is it just me! Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Betr.: Re: Dynamic I/O
Tom, that is incorrect, HSA is allocated in purchased memory. Also 2 GB statement is wrong, it depends on number of devices, number of LPs etc It may range from less than 2 GB to up to 4.5 GB for a fully configured system. There is a HSA Estimator Tool available for this on Resource Link. Marian Gasparovic IBM Slovakia --- Tom Duerbusch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a note many moons ago The z9 uses a fixed 2 GB for HSA AND that 2 GB is added to the box, over an above what memory you purchased. i.e. your proposed 8 GB box will have 10 GB installed. Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting (however, I don't have any thing in writing from an IBM publication that this is sobut I haven't really looked either) Peter Webb, Toronto Transit Commission [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7/20/2007 8:41 AM We're going for the minimum, which is 8GB. So that will be 2GB to HSA, 2GB for expanded store and 4GB for general use. Still a BIG increase. Peter -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Feller, Paul Sent: July 20, 2007 09:24 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Betr.: Re: Dynamic I/O Watch how much memory you get on the z9 BC. The size of the HSA jumps up a large amount. We just installed a z9 BC as an external coupling facility. We set it up for no dynamic IO changes and the HSA is still 1728 meg. Paul Feller AIT Mainframe Technical Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] (319)-355-7824 -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Webb, Toronto Transit Commission Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 8:06 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Betr.: Re: Dynamic I/O We are running on a MP2000 with 1 gig of memory. Out of that 1 gig comes the HSA plus additional storage CP needs to allocate dynamic devices. We have several VSE guests to support plus some CMS workload. Occasionally during the day, we have file transfers from VSE to Windows going through a 600 MB v-disk. The paging load during the file transfers just kills CMS response time. Even taking a bit more main storage to increase the HSA for dynamic I/O just isn't a good idea. Now, if our plans to purchase a z9 BC go through, we'll be laughing. Peter -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pieter Harder Sent: July 19, 2007 15:41 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Betr.: Re: Dynamic I/O I don't quite get your statement on memory demands. Dynamic I/O is done within the Hardware Storage Area (HSA) that is allocated fixed on Power-on-Reset after analyzing your IOCDS config. The dynamic requirements for issuing dynamic config commands is probably to small to measure. (Barton/Rob?) Best regards, Pieter Harder [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel +31-73-6837133 / +31-6-47272537 Peter Webb, Toronto Transit Commission [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/19/07 9:31 Funny, I was just looking into using dynamic I/O on our box. See http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/hcsg1b20.pdf, Part 2 Using Dynamic I/O Configuration. In our case we won't use it. We are memory constrained at times, and don't need the aggravation of performance problems caused by the extra memory demands of dynamic I/O. Peter -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Hinson Sent: July 19, 2007 14:37 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Dynamic I/O I've done a couple of disk changes recently that require updates to our IOCDS config, and it's getting hard to schedule a Power On Reset each time to recognize the changes. I see a checkmark on the HMC that indicates Dynamic I/O is possible if you have the right pieces in the config you import. Is anyone using Dynamic I/O, or can you point me to some docs (or perhaps another list) on this? Also, any docs on the format of the IODEVICE (and other) statemtents in this config would also be useful. Thanks, -- Brad Hinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sr. Support Engineer Lead, System z Red Hat, Inc. (919) 754-4198 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review retransmission dissemination or other use of or taking of any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient or delegate is strictly prohibited. If you received this in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. The integrity and security of this message cannot by guaranteed on the Internet. The Sender
Re: z/Linux or zLinux - which is preferred?
Lionel, both are incorrect (I mean in IBM usage). Correct name is Linux for System z. Marian Gasparovic IBM Slovakia --- Lionel Dyck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what is the preferred way to designate Linux for zSeries - as z/Linux or zLinux ? Thanks Lionel B. Dyck, Consultant/Specialist Enterprise Platform Services, Mainframe Engineering KP-IT Enterprise Engineering, Client and Platform Engineering Services (CAPES) 925-926-5332 (8-473-5332) | E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: lbdyck | Yahoo IM: lbdyck Kaiser Service Credo: Our cause is health. Our passion is service. We?re here to make lives better.? ?Never attribute to malice what can be caused by miscommunication.? NOTICE TO RECIPIENT: If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, you are prohibited from sharing, copying, or otherwise using or disclosing its contents. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and permanently delete this e-mail and any attachments without reading, forwarding or saving them. Thank you. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SLES10 SP1 upgrade problems
Mark, it is mentioned in the README indeed, in the section how to prepare installation server (which is documented horribly in the readme btw) Marian Gasparovic IBM Slovakia --- Mark Post [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 3:15 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Aria Bamdad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, With SLES9 SP3 upgrade, all I had to do was download the ISO's for SP3, make the CDs and define the new CDs using the yast installation source option. Then just run online update and it would use a local FTP server to get the files from the CDs. That method was for SLES9, and is not used for SLES10. The SLES9 SPx CDs only contained what was updated from the GA version. The SLES10 SP1 CDs/DVD is a complete set of installation files. It seems that this option does not work and there is no mention of how to upgrade using FTP and SP1 CDs for SLES10. The readme file on the CD talks about having to ake a link to ../suse but this is when installing from a local or mounted filesystem. I don't know what file you saw that in. The README files I see on the media make no mention of it. What I do see is this: 6.2 Integrating the Service Pack into an Installation Server The SUSE LINUX Enterprise Server 10 Service-Pack is a complete product. It will be added to the Installation Server in the same way as SUSE LINUX Enterprise Server 10 GA. Has anyone been able to do an upgrade from SLES10 to SLES10 SP1 using the FTP method and SP1 CDs? As has been discussed here previously, if you want to set up a local SLES10 update server, you should install YUP and use that to set up your repository. Mark Post Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/norton/index.php -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info
If you know anybody talking Dutch, ask him/her what it means in Dutch, you will be surprised and never forget to smile when you hear SOA :) Marian --- Evans, Kevin R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love the SOA comment...it's a big buzzword around here right now. I am sure that SOA means different things to different people. Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545469 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info
Enter SOA Dutch into your favorite Google, don't even click on the first link, just read it. Marian --- Steve Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those of us who don't know anyone who speaks Dutch, would you mind terribly providing some insight? Steve Mitchell Sr Systems Software Specialist Blue Cross Blue Shield of Kansas (785) 291-8885 'There are no degrees of Honesty-you're either Honest or you're not! Marian Gasparovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Sent by: Linux on LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 390 Port cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU Topic Subject 06/13/2007 07:55 Re: Need z/VM-LINUX info AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU If you know anybody talking Dutch, ask him/her what it means in Dutch, you will be surprised and never forget to smile when you hear SOA :) Marian --- Evans, Kevin R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love the SOA comment...it's a big buzzword around here right now. I am sure that SOA means different things to different people. Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545469 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Verifying a NFS mountpoint is active?
John, for #1, what about issuing 'df' command and parse that directory ? Or 'mount' command ? I mean on z/OS side. Marian --- McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm posting this to both the MVS OS (z/OS UNIX) forum and the Linux forum because it involves both platforms, at least to an extent. I have a Linux box which is running an NFS server. It has a subdirectory which is NFS exported. The z/OS system imports this subdirectory. I have a job on z/OS which writes data to the z/OS UNIX subdirectory which is __supposed__ to be mounted to the Linux machine. And it does, so long as the NFS mount has been issued on the z/OS system (which is not automated at present) and the Linux machine (which is mine - not a server per se) is up. What I'd like to be able to __easily__ figure out are: (1) is the z/OS UNIX subdirectory properly NFS MOUNTed to the Linux system? (2) is the Linux system actually working? I also have ssh working between z/OS UNIX and Linux. So I think that I can answer question 2 by simply trying a do nothing ssh from z/OS to Linux. If it works, then the Linux box is up. If it doesn't then something is wrong and I need a return code in the batch job on z/OS to indicate this. I think this is doable. But I cannot figure out how to determine #1. What I've come up with is something like: Have the batch job do an ssh connect to the Linux box and do a cat function to write a file on the Linux system in the NFS exported subdirectory. If the ssh fails, then assume something is wrong with the Linux system and set a bad RC so that I know to look at what is going on. If the ssh works, then do a compare between the original file on the z/OS system and what is on the NFS file. If they are not equal, assume that the subdirectory is not NFS mount and issue a bad RC. Does this sounds reasonable? -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Help Problem installing Suse in ZVM
Sorry for that, I confused myself first and then you. Info for others - images were corrupted, solved offline. Marian --- Jos© Miguel Villar Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Marian I don't understand. The book looks O.K. In our case, we have (with diferent IP address) Install=nfs://129.40.178.130/data/SLES-10-CD-s390x-GMC-CD1.iso What do you mean? Thanks a lot. Marian Gasparovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado por: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 29/05/2007 15:13 Por favor, responda a Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Para LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Asunto Re: Help Problem installing Suse in ZVM Jose, there is an error in the book, in your parmfile you need whole path to the .iso image Like this Install=nfs://129.40.178.130/nfs/sles10/SLES-10-CD-s390x-GMC-CD1.iso lockd message is expected Marian --- Jos© Miguel Villar Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. We had installed ZVM Now we are following the steps of book z/VM and Linux on IBM System z A cookbook for installing and customizing z/VM 5.2 and Linux SLES 10 on the mainframe. Now we are at the page 96, paragrph 7.4.1 Begin the SLES 10 installation. After executing the exec : SLES10 Things seem to go well, we reach the NFS server, TCPIP is O.K. but we get a message: lockd: failed to open /var/lib/nfs/state: err=-2 So the we can't go on installing. Anyone colugive us a clue? Thanks a lot in advance Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 AVISO LEGAL: Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario y puede contener información reservada y/o CONFIDENCIAL. Si Vd. no es el destinatario original no está autorizado a copiar o distribuir esta comunicación a ninguna otra persona. Si ha recibido este mensaje por error, le rogamos nos lo comunique inmediatamente por esta misma vía y proceda a su borrado. Gracias. DISCLAIMER: This message is intended exclusively for its addressee and may contain information that is CONFIDENTIAL and protected by professional privilege. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copy or disclosure of this communication is strictly prohibited by law. If this message has been received in error, please immediately notify us via e-mail and delete it. Thank you. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SLES10 Minimal Graphical System Equivalent?
--- Mark Post [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 7:23 PM, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Lee Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all... If I understand right, there is no way on SLES10 to do an install similar to SLES9's Minimal graphical system (without KDE) unless you do it manually, right? I don't believe that is correct. The same installation option should be available for SLES10. SLES10 installer doesn't offer minimal graphical system (without KDE) as SLES9 did. However, if vncserver is enough, I use only base system and 31 compat libraries (so only two checks in installer) and I can install whatever product which needs X interface. Using vncserver. Check Virtualization Cookbook for SLES10, it is all there, also list of unneeded packages. Marian Gasparovic IBM Slovakia Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: OK - a really stupid question.
John, yes you are correct. zAAPs and zIIPs are ment to lower TCO of new workload on z/OS. For Linux you have IFL which is MUCH cheaper than regular CP. And what is important, it is alway full speed engine regardless of speed of your subcapacity CPs. (same applies to zIIP and zAAP). And if they ask why you cannot run Linux on zAAP - because there is a microcode change which prevents IPL on zAAP and zIIP :) HTH Marian --- McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I know this will be a stupid question. But I will ask anyway because I have no fear (or was that no sense?). A zAAP engine is used by z/OS to run Java code. The only reason for such an engine was because of the CPU demands of Java and the fact that adding the required CPU power using a general purpose engine would drive up the other software costs. That is, a zAAP engine is a marketing ploy to sell Java (an maybe some other Java-dependant software such as WAS). It is not a solution to a technical problem with Java on z/OS. Therefore, there is no need/reason for Linux on System z to ever support a zAAP (or zIIP or other specialty engine which is marketing oriented). True? OK, why the stupid question? I am hoping (perhaps in vain) that eventually we may get a zAAP to do Java work on z/OS and to get back my IFL (lost during our z9BC upgrade due to lack of interest) for possible Linux on System z work. Our current management incarnation is very open towards Linux. But they still act like Linux only runs on Intel. Well, it beats the previous Windows is the solution to every problem! attitude of the previous management group. Anyway, I am fairly sure that somebody in management is going to ask something like: Why can't I run z/OS Java on an IFL? or Why can't I run z/Linux on a zAAP?. I.e. they'll want to get a single speciality CP to do both z/Linux and z/OS Java. This in order to reduce hardware costs. I know they are not expensive, compared to a general CP, but we are very cost conscious, as is reasonable. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 You snooze, you lose. Get messages ASAP with AutoCheck in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_html.html -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: sles9 s390x install root
Yes, I did, several times, several customers, no problem. Installed packages from CD[1-3] with yast. M. --- Brendan Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone else tried installing packages from the media (other than CD1) post install on a SLES9 SP3 on z? Either 31 or 64 bit. Cheers - Tex Brendan Kelly Certified Senior IT Specialist - z/OS Linux Open Source Community of Practice Co-Leader IBM Global Technology Services 348 Edward St, Brisbane, QLD 4000 +61-7-3213-2133 +61-419-394-143 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: sles9 s390x install root
I always run mksles9root without -m option and make it accessible via NFS. Never had any problem with symlinks and such. Could it be there is some issue when you just loop mount images compared to copy them ? --- Brendan Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tried it - got same results. I ask for something on CD3, I get: Insert CD3. If I add a symlink to core9/CD3/media.3 and retry I get: SuSE Linux AG != SuSE Linux AG 20040702201752 != 20040702202948 If I add a symlink to sp3-9/CD3/media.3 and retry I get SUSE LINUX Products GmbH != SuSE Linux AG Time for a bugzilla? Cheers - Tex (Embedded (Embedded image moved to file: image moved pic18214.jpg) to file: Brendan Kelly pic24259.jpg Certified Senior IT )Specialist - z/OS Linux Open Source Community of Practice Co-Leader IBM Global Technology Services (Embedded image moved to file: pic16858.gif)348 Edward St, Brisbane, QLD 4000 (Embedded image moved to file: pic17702.gif) +61-7-3213-2133 (Embedded image moved to file: pic17819.gif)+61-419-394-143 (Embedded image moved to file: pic32471.gif) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU wrote on 14/03/2007 09:31:45 PM: I have now setup apache pointing to sles9xsp3root (created by the mkslesroot script run on zLinux - tried both mounting iso's and copies) and am trying to install additional packages via http. By chance have you exported the same install tree via NFS? If so, does that succeed? If so, that would seem to point to the http: protocol, not the install tree structure. That might be worth a try. Mike MacIsaac [EMAIL PROTECTED] (845) 433-7061 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SLES10 install ssh password
Bob, check your parmfile for SSHpassword. Marian --- Bob Levad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings, We apparently haven't found the right doc or help screen.. We haven't found a place to set the root password during install on zVM5.2 via ftp. When we SSH in after the first IPL from disk, the usual suspects we know don't work. Is there a default or are we supposed to create a user or update the password during install. Can someone enlighten us or point us to the correct Fine Manual with the answer? Thanks. Bob This electronic transmission and any documents accompanying this electronic transmission contain confidential information belonging to the sender. This information may be legally privileged. The information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on or regarding the contents of this electronically transmitted information is strictly prohibited. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: 1 480 MIP IFL CPU = ?
At some performance presentation I heard nice sentence about this - ... and all those fast processors wait at the same high speed Marian --- Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: periods of polling. That can significantly impact CPU availability and since its often time bound a faster processor simply does more waits, not more work. Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: 1 480 MIP IFL CPU = ?
No problem, buy lower capacity setting and then you can overclock through web via resourcelink, no need for screwdriver. Warning - works only on CP, not on IFL. --- McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hum, I wonder if we could overclock a z9 CPU? Well, it works on Intel CPUs and AMD CPUs. Why not z9 CPUs? GRIN Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: How do I find ...
Right. And how will you interpret this ? # SPident -vvv Summary (using 476 packages) Product/ServicePack conflictmatch update (shipped) SLES-10-s390x-current 1 0.1%474 99.6% 0 (1991 23.8%) - sitar 1.0.7-270.1 1.0.6-7.2 Unknown 2 0.4% Legend for Package Details: - conflicting package (found expected) + updated package (found expected) CONCLUSION: No supported Product/ServicePack found at all! (at least one conflict has been detected everywhere) --- Dell Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you run SPident with -vvv it will list out all of the packages that are either newer or older than what it expects to be an updated system. Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: How do I find ...
# rpm -qa|grep -i spident SPident-0.9-74.4_SLES_10_s390x_current_CD Which looks more curent than what you say is latest. Marian --- Dell Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you running the latest SPident?.SPident-0.9-42.30 Michael MacIsaac [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/11/07 8:49 AM If it is older than expected there will be a - sign ... - sitar 1.0.7- 270.1 1.0.6- 7.2 Is 1.0.7 1.0.6? Mike MacIsaac [EMAIL PROTECTED] (845) 433- 7061 -- For LINUX- 390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX- 390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX- 390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: How do I find ...
Could be, but it means that also new SLES10 with more recent package version has the same problem :( --- Marcy Cortes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Dell was talking SLES9 - I was anyway :) Marcy Cortes This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marian Gasparovic Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 09:31 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] How do I find ... # rpm -qa|grep -i spident SPident-0.9-74.4_SLES_10_s390x_current_CD Which looks more curent than what you say is latest. Marian --- Dell Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you running the latest SPident?.SPident-0.9-42.30 Michael MacIsaac [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/11/07 8:49 AM If it is older than expected there will be a - sign ... - sitar 1.0.7- 270.1 1.0.6- 7.2 Is 1.0.7 1.0.6? Mike MacIsaac [EMAIL PROTECTED] (845) 433- 7061 -- For LINUX- 390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX- 390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX- 390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: WorldVista on z/Linux -- unexecutable
Jon, I looked at download page and they say it is all for i386 architecture... --- Jon Brock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the sake of my own curiosity, I am looking at installing WorldVista (an electronic medical-records system built on the U.S. Veterans Administration's VistA work) on z/Linux. I have created a system (RHEL 4) and downloaded one of the SemiViva packages from Sourceforge. (SemiViva is supposed to be pretty much a complete all-in-one system, I think.) Unfortunately, the install process tries to execute a particular program named mupip, at which point it hurks up a hairball and barfs. Specifically, I get the message: ./install: line 88: /usr/local/gtm_V5.1-000/mupip: cannot execute binary file Does this imply binaries strictly for x86 or some such? Am I going to need to forget the all-in-one package approach and try to cobble together a system from source if I can find it? Thanks, Jon -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: WorldVista on z/Linux -- unexecutable
On Download page there is file reference table with architecture column. --- Jon Brock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep, that's it. (This was my first exposure to the file command. Into the toolbox it goes.) I had not been able to find any documentation on the site that would tell me if it had an architecture restriction. I'm sure it's there somewhere, but I haven't seen it. Thanks, Jon snip Was the sourceforce package that you downloaded for x86? Try the file command on /usr/local/gtm-V5.1-000/mupip. /snip -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: [was gnupg 2.0.1] - WAS and SLES10?
WAS is not supported yet, DB2 is. Marian --- James Melin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Marcy! Just Curious.Where have you seen an IBM announcement that WAS version 6 or higher supports SLES 10. We've been waiting for that particular information. Marcy Cortes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc 01/09/2007 12:01 AM Subject Re: gnupg 2.0.1 Please respond to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU I don't know about Oracle, but DB2 and Websphere AS support SLES 10. Marcy Cortes This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Duerbusch Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 6:52 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] gnupg 2.0.1 None of your business? I don't know...but good topic. 1. I don't think it is an issue with a support contract. Ours use to be directly with SUSE, but now it is under our general Novell contract. I just looked at GnuPG as just an application that runs under Linux. So I picked up the new GnuPG from the website. But now that you brought it up, I should have looked on the Novell website. I should have been able to use YOU to update it. Firewall restrictions currently prevent me from YOU access outside of the firewall. So, that wouldn't have been an option, if I would have thought about it. 2. I didn't look at SLES10. However, GnuPG 2.0.1 just came out in late December 2006. So I doubt the base SLES10 would have had a V2. 3. Right now, I'm pretty dedicated to SLES 9. When Oracle 10g and DB2/UDB are certified for SLES10, I will be ready for an upgrade cycle. Ooops, forgot Websphere also. No, I didn't look other places, once I found the www.gnupg.com website. Once I got the right commands, producing the files from source was somewhat interesting. That is the first time, I've attempted installing from source somethat that wasn't really trivial. Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting John Summerfield wrote: Tom Duerbusch wrote: In SLES9, the gpg is at 1.2.4. I couldn't fine documentation that I needed, but I did find good documentation for gnupg 2.0.1. So, I decided to download and install 2.0.1. This is a source install and you have to compile everything. Of course, I have the default install for SLES9, which didn't include some of the libraries. And some of the libraries I did have installed, were at too low of a software level. So, now I'm on the track of installing a lot more stuff. None of my business, I know, but 1. What do these adventures mean for your support contracts? 2. What version of gpg is in SLES10? I don't have any SLES or SUSE installed atm; from what I do have (FF6, Etch) suggest probably not, but the libraries should be closer. 3. Did you consider upgrading to SLES10? Google may find binaries you desire, and rpmforge may have them; if not then at least an rpm for gpg 2 that builds for SLES9 on other hardware. I've not followed up the docs included in FC6, but did you check the relevant RFC? The standard's not PGP, but OpenPGP. -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please do not reply off-list -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Errors when trying to put root on LVM during SLES10 install
And if you install with VNC it is even worse because you cannot SSH until after install is complete. In SLES9 SSH was up during VNC, not in SLES10 marian --- RPN01 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I ran into this as well; the issue is that if you create a volume group, YaST doesn't bother to do the requred dasdfmt. Begin the install, through activating your dasd. Drop out to an ssh session, and do dasdfmt and fdasd for all the devices. Then go back to the installer and continue. I reported this problem to Novell. They seem to not feel that it is a big issue -- .~.Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation /V\RO-OC-1-13 200 First Street SW / ( ) \ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 ^^-^^ - In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, theory and practice are different. From: Post, Mark K [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 12:42:54 -0500 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Conversation: Errors when trying to put root on LVM during SLES10 install Subject: Re: Errors when trying to put root on LVM during SLES10 install I personally recommend _not_ putting your root file system in an LV. However, since you want to do that, _exactly_ how is it failing? Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bernard Wu Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 11:52 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Errors when trying to put root on LVM during SLES10 install Hi List, I've been getting errors when trying to put root on a LVM during the SLES10 install. I took a mod-9 and carved out 3 minidisks. 100 for /boot 102 for / 103 for swap I then activated all 3 devices, formatted them, created /boot, swap, and volume group vgsystem. Under vgsystem, I then created 4 logical volumes , lvvar, lvusr, lvroot and lvtmp and assigned them to /var , /usr, /, and /tmp. However, when I tried to continue, the install would fail. A quick google , showed a hit , in which the solution was to run fdasd -a . I opened another SSH session, and tried the fdasd -a command, but that failed also. Has anyone been successful with putting root on an LVM and is willing to share their steps and procedures they went through to get there. TIA Bernie Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SLES10 minimal installation
Bernard, it depends on what you need. Of course you need Server Base and probably 32bit Runtime Environment. I see no reason to install GNOME and X Window on server. If your server acts as print server then Print server option is obvious. I leave APPArmour to others to comment. Even if you install only Server base and 32bit, there are many packages you can remove safely later. Unfortunately a lot of useless packages have to stay because of complicated dependencies. Marian Gasparovic IBM Slovakia --- Bernard Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi List, The default software selection for SLES10 installs the following: - GNOME Desktop Environment for Server - Server Base System - 32bit Runtime Environment - X Window System - Novell APPArmour - Print Server Do we need Novell AppArmour, X Window System, Print Server , the 32bit Runtime Environment and the GNOME Desktop Environment ? I was hoping to install something akin to the SLES9 minimal install. Bernie Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. This message may be an attorney-client communication and/or work product and as such is privileged and confidential. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SLES10 minimal installation
Bernard, good news. We work with Mike on cookbook update for SLES10. If you choose only base and 32bit and then remove about 60 packages (I am sure it can be more) you will get about 1.3GB free on 3390-3. Marian Gasparovic IBM Slovakia --- Bernard Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Mark for your reply. I was hoping to create a base system that will be used to clone other systems, something like Mike MacIsaac's /sles9master. The SLES10 minimal install, leaves about 22M free on a mod-3. Thats too close for comfort. That's why I am looking to cut out all unnecessary stuff. Off course the other option is to use a mod-9. Bernie Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mark Boltz [EMAIL PROTECTED] soft.com To Sent by: Linux on LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 390 Port cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU Subject Re: SLES10 minimal installation 01/03/2007 02:47 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU Hi, From a security point of view, and a general systems best practices standpoint as well, you only want to install the specific things you need, and nothing more. If you unselect something that is a dependency, the installer typically will add it back as needed. The first question is: what role do you want your server to take? Is it just a Web server? A print server? A Windows file server? For any of those, or FTP, e-mail, etc. you only need Server Base from the list you presented. GNOME and X Windows should never be installed on servers, period. Intel, VM or otherwise. --- Mark Boltz, CISSP Sr. Solutions Architect [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.stonesoft.com Toll Free: 1.866.869.4075 Cell: 1.571.218.2481 Fax: 1.703.288.4811 8133 Leesburg Pike, Suite 610 Vienna, VA 22182-2730 USA Subscribe to a Webletter on Trends in Network Security at http://www.stonesoft.com/network_security/ Marian Gasparovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Sent by: Linux on LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 390 Port cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU Subject Re: SLES10 minimal installation 01/03/2007 02:37 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU Bernard, it depends on what you need. Of course you need Server Base and probably 32bit Runtime Environment. I see no reason to install GNOME and X Window on server. If your server acts as print server then Print server option is obvious. I leave APPArmour to others to comment. Even if you install only Server base and 32bit, there are many packages you can remove safely later. Unfortunately a lot of useless packages have to stay because of complicated dependencies. Marian Gasparovic IBM Slovakia --- Bernard Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi List, The default software selection for SLES10 installs the following: - GNOME Desktop Environment for Server - Server Base System - 32bit Runtime Environment - X Window System - Novell APPArmour - Print Server Do we need Novell AppArmour, X Window System, Print Server , the 32bit Runtime Environment and the GNOME Desktop Environment ? I was hoping to install something akin to the SLES9 minimal install. Bernie Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. This message may be an attorney-client communication and/or work product and as such is privileged and confidential. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: DB2 ON Linux zseries/390
Steve, you cannot IPL z/OS.e on IFL, it must be standard CP. Licensing is different (about 90% cheaper compared to z/OS) and there are some restrictions (for # of TSO users, cannot run CICS etc). Marian Gasparovic IBM Slovakia --- Steve Gentry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please note, I wrote z/OS.e note the e This is a version of z/OS that will run in an IFL and thus take advantage of lower pricing (according to IBM). I'm neither for or against this option. It was something that IBM presented to us as an alternative along with zLinux under VM in an IFL. Srini Musunuri [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 12/19/2006 02:32 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc: Subject:Re: DB2 ON Linux zseries/390 We already have DB2 on Z/OS. Looking info on putting DB2 on Linux zseries. So our company can save money on Z/OS cpu cycles(or MIPS). Thanks Srini 4089181926 NOTICE: This email message and/or its attachments may contain information that is confidential or restricted. It is intended only for the individuals named as recipients in the message. If you are NOT an authorized recipient, you are prohibited from using, delivering, distributing, printing, copying, or disclosing the message or content to others and must delete the message from your computer. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender by return email. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: DB2 ON Linux zseries/390
Are you absolutely sure that z/OS.e will run on an IFL??? I was definately under the impression that it required a general CP, not an IFL. Correct. In addition, I am not a DB2 person, but I think that there are differences between z/OS DB2 and UDB (UNIX) DB2. Not really large ones, but some toe stubbing might occur when migrating. DB2 for z/OS is different code and some features differ. I am not DB2 guy... Marian Gasparovic IBM Slovakia __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
removed RPMs and online update
Hi all, there is one (among others) thing I don't understand. In SLES10 I install basic system, then want to configure novell customer center. For that I need browser and a lot of desktop packages. After I configure Novell Customer Center, I remove those packages (like mozilla-xulrunner, alsa, kdebase and many other) with rpm -e. Then I run Online Update where I get info about dependences and all of them are installed back !!! I have no idea why. When I removed them there were no dependency problems. Any help ? I can repeat it any time, rpm -e alsa kdelibs3 kdebase3 kdepim3 kdepim3-sync and after online update they are back... === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
SPident bug ?
SLES10 lat122:~ # SPident -vv Summary (using 408 packages) Product/ServicePack conflictmatch update (shipped) SLES-10-s390x-current 1 0.1%348 85.3% 55 (1991 17.5%) - sitar 1.0.7-270.1 1.0.6-7.2 Unknown60 14.7% Legend for Package Details: - conflicting package (found expected) CONCLUSION: No supported Product/ServicePack found at all! (at least one conflict has been detected everywhere) it says 1.0.7-270.1 1.0.6-7.2 === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SLES 9 SP 3 - Oracle 9i install problem
You can still add more DASD to swap and you will get much more memory. Performance will suffer, but you will be able to find out if memory constraint is the reason for install failure. Marian --- David Stuart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark, If it is, in fact, a memory issue, then I'm probably done with it. I have @600M available in the LPAR (no VM), and that's as much as I can give it. This box only has 2G, allocated across 5 LPARs. Thanks, Dave Dave Stuart Prin. Info. Systems Support Analyst County of Ventura, CA 805-662-6731 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/6/2006 12:11 PM Typically in my experience a segmentation fault is caused by serious lack of memory. Our Oracle installed complained that it need over 900MB for the install. -- Mark Pace Mainline Information Systems -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SLES 9 SP 3 - Oracle 9i install problem
Dave, how long is never returns ? Did you check what is going on during that time ? For examle with 'top' ot 'vmstat' in another terminal ? Memory constraints ? Marian Gasparovic IBM Slovakia --- David Stuart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Evening, I am trying to install Oracle 9i (9.2.0.1) on SLES9 SP 3 running on an S/390 LPAR. I set all the environment variables, per the Install Guide, Setup Tasks for the Oracle User, and then execute runInstaller. I receive a message that the Java Environment is being initialized (IBMJava2-S390-131), with a path that points way down into the bowels of the unpacked installation files, and Please wait... It never returns. I an using redirected ssh (ssh -X ... ) via cygwin on a Win/XP Pro platform. YaST2 runs just fine (albeit slow), as does xclock. Any help is appreciated, Dave P.S. I resolved my 'Java Not Found' problem. I was trying to execute the wrong runInstaller... (egg on face). Dave Stuart Prin. Info. Systems Support Analyst County of Ventura, CA 805-662-6731 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: IP Address Already Registered - SUSE SLES10
Stephanie, (Mike and I) we are working on Virtualization Cookbook for SLES10 right now. I haven't encountered this problem. Can you send your PARMFILE ? What happens if you try to ping that IP from your windows while your installation is not running ? Marian Gasparovic IBM Slovakia --- Stephanie A Maginn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I studied that section of the Virtualization Cookbook, and have tried pinging the address and IPLing from the virtual rdr. (I am trying to follow the Cookbook for the SLES10 install.) But this problem is not intermittent; it happens every single time. The OSA is at 3.5F now (it was at 3.5E when I started). So I am not sure that it is the same problem, or if this is something in Linux (or my PARMFILE). Thanks, Steph This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 Sponsored Link Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. $510k for $1,698/mo. Calculate new payment! www.LowerMyBills.com/lre -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Fw: IP Address Already Registered - SUSE SLES10
Yes, there is an error in doc, it was my post and somebody confirmed it was already reported. If you search in archive you will find exact error, I just don't remember. But the parmfile I sent you privately works for sure. Marian --- Stephanie A Maginn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried switching the OsaInterface from =qdio to =eth, and OsaMedium from =qdio to =eth. I am not quite sure what happened. It did not get the IP Address Already Registered error, but the guest never look right in the Q VSWITCH DET either. During the boot, it loaded the qeth driver, and then the lcs driver (which it doesn't usually do). Searching for info file... NET: Registered protocol family 10 lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling driver qdio: loading QDIO base support version 2 qeth: loading qeth S/390 OSA-Express driver IUCV lowlevel driver initialized iucv: NETIUCV driver initialized lcs: Loading LCS driver sit0: Disabled Privacy Extensions I thought I had seen a posting that the documentation was in error on these two parameters, and they should be reversed. Thanks, Steph This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose. Mark Pace [EMAIL PROTECTED] m To Sent by: Linux on LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 390 Port cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU Subject Re: Fw: IP Address Already Registered - SUSE SLES10 11/27/2006 04:03 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU Here are my definitions for my vswitch Gateway=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx InstNetDev=OSA OsaInterface=eth OsaMedium=qdio Layer2=0 Netmask=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx Broadcast=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx ReadChannel=0.0.1d00 Writechannel=0.0.1d01 DataChannel=0.0.1d02 Portname=vswtch1 -- Mark Pace -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Websphere trial on zLinux?
Tom, it is not downloadable anywhere. Just contact you SWG or client rep and ask for trial/demo. It requires some demo contract signing but you can get it for three months. It is the best possibility I know which works (done twice). Marian Gasparovic IBM Slovakia --- Tom Duerbusch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was looking at the IBM web pages for a trial of Websphere for zLinux. The only trials they had were for Windows and Linux (Intel). So, is there a trial for Websphere on zLinux? And if so, what are the procedures to get it? We have a project on the Open Systems side, JAVA based. Seems to be in house code. But then, it can't be much, because management is only looking for a trial. Anyway, they were looking at Websphere on 386, when they started looking at Oracle Application Server. Then things started getting bogged down in acquiring the hardware for the trial. Hardware? I have a z/890 with an IFL (running about 10% utilization) So I started bringing it up and decided to try it. My guess is that I can bring up a Linux machine (I already have some 17 of them), and install Websphere and hand it over to development, in a day. We can decide what platform the application should reside, later. If there isn't a trial available for zLinux, then I don't see how we will ever have Java applications on the mainframe (which, being Java, may be a good thing). Thanks Tom Duerbusch THD Consulting -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 Sponsored Link $420k for $1,399/mo. Think You Pay Too Much For Your Mortgage? Find Out! www.LowerMyBills.com/lre -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: sles10 hostname
I corrected gateway (good catch, thank you) but problem is still the same. Could you email me parmfile which works for you and doesn't ask for hostname ? Thanks Marian --- Post, Mark K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you cut and pasted this, as opposed to typing it in, I see a problem. Your Gateway specification has 6 octets instead of 4. I don't know if this would mess up the parsing of the Hostname or not, but it might. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marian Gasparovic Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 3:56 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: sles10 hostname ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram1 ro init=/linuxrc TERM=dumb HostIP=129.40.178.130 Hostname=lat130.pbm.ihost.com Gateway=129.40.178.254.178.254 Netmask=255.255.255.0 Broadcast=129.40.178.255 Layer2=0 ReadChannel=0.0.0600 WriteChannel=0.0.0601 DataChannel=0.0.0602 Nameserver=129.40.106.1 Portname=dontcare Install=nfs://129.40.46.206/nfs/sles10/CD1 UseVNC=1 VNCPassword=123456 InstNetDev=osa OsaInterface=qdio OsaMedium=eth Manual=0 Everything is used correctly, vncserver starts, I connect there, set partitions, choose software, start install. After all needed files from CD1 are read, system is rebooted, then rest of files are read and then it asks for hostname and domain. So I don't enter any of these parameters anywhere during install, only hostname --- Post, Mark K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marian, Could you show your whole parmfile? I might be able to take a look at it. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marian Gasparovic Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 1:33 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: sles10 hostname Hello all, I install SLES10 with parameters in PARMFILE. Everything works nicely, only Hostname=xxx is not used, installer asks for it after first reboot. Am I doing something wrong ? Thank you === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 __ Check out the New Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. (http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business (http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: sles10 hostname
Hmmm, it looks like Hostname from parmfile is not used at all. In documentation they mention it only once where they explain how to code parameters, but later where all possible parameters are listed, Hostname is missing. When I tried to setup without parameter file, I was not asked for hostname before VNC part, I was asked for all other parameters from parmfile. This is different from SLES9. Will anybody from SuSE/Novell comment ? Thank you --- Post, Mark K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you cut and pasted this, as opposed to typing it in, I see a problem. Your Gateway specification has 6 octets instead of 4. I don't know if this would mess up the parsing of the Hostname or not, but it might. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marian Gasparovic Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2006 3:56 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: sles10 hostname ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram1 ro init=/linuxrc TERM=dumb HostIP=129.40.178.130 Hostname=lat130.pbm.ihost.com Gateway=129.40.178.254.178.254 Netmask=255.255.255.0 Broadcast=129.40.178.255 Layer2=0 ReadChannel=0.0.0600 WriteChannel=0.0.0601 DataChannel=0.0.0602 Nameserver=129.40.106.1 Portname=dontcare Install=nfs://129.40.46.206/nfs/sles10/CD1 UseVNC=1 VNCPassword=123456 InstNetDev=osa OsaInterface=qdio OsaMedium=eth Manual=0 Everything is used correctly, vncserver starts, I connect there, set partitions, choose software, start install. After all needed files from CD1 are read, system is rebooted, then rest of files are read and then it asks for hostname and domain. So I don't enter any of these parameters anywhere during install, only hostname --- Post, Mark K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marian, Could you show your whole parmfile? I might be able to take a look at it. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marian Gasparovic Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 1:33 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: sles10 hostname Hello all, I install SLES10 with parameters in PARMFILE. Everything works nicely, only Hostname=xxx is not used, installer asks for it after first reboot. Am I doing something wrong ? Thank you === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 __ Check out the New Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. (http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 Get your email and see which of your friends are online - Right on the New Yahoo.com (http://www.yahoo.com/preview) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: sles10 hostname
ramdisk_size=65536 root=/dev/ram1 ro init=/linuxrc TERM=dumb HostIP=129.40.178.130 Hostname=lat130.pbm.ihost.com Gateway=129.40.178.254.178.254 Netmask=255.255.255.0 Broadcast=129.40.178.255 Layer2=0 ReadChannel=0.0.0600 WriteChannel=0.0.0601 DataChannel=0.0.0602 Nameserver=129.40.106.1 Portname=dontcare Install=nfs://129.40.46.206/nfs/sles10/CD1 UseVNC=1 VNCPassword=123456 InstNetDev=osa OsaInterface=qdio OsaMedium=eth Manual=0 Everything is used correctly, vncserver starts, I connect there, set partitions, choose software, start install. After all needed files from CD1 are read, system is rebooted, then rest of files are read and then it asks for hostname and domain. So I don't enter any of these parameters anywhere during install, only hostname --- Post, Mark K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marian, Could you show your whole parmfile? I might be able to take a look at it. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marian Gasparovic Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 1:33 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: sles10 hostname Hello all, I install SLES10 with parameters in PARMFILE. Everything works nicely, only Hostname=xxx is not used, installer asks for it after first reboot. Am I doing something wrong ? Thank you === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 __ Check out the New Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. (http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
sles10 hostname
Hello all, I install SLES10 with parameters in PARMFILE. Everything works nicely, only Hostname=xxx is not used, installer asks for it after first reboot. Am I doing something wrong ? Thank you === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: LVM - can both CKD and FBA reside in same volume group?
But if one of them is faster, you will be slowed down to speed of slower one of course. Marian --- Romanowski, John (OFT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's OK to use FBA disks in a LVM volume group that has CKD disks in it. If Make the FBA's LVM physical extent (PE) size the same as the CKD's PE size. This e-mail, including any attachments, may be confidential, privileged or otherwise legally protected. It is intended only for the addressee. If you received this e-mail in error or from someone who was not authorized to send it to you, do not disseminate, copy or otherwise use this e-mail or its attachments. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete the e-mail from your system. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Zimmerman Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 12:59 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: LVM - can both CKD and FBA reside in same volume group? Hi all, I'm new to this, so my terminology may be incorrect. We are primarily z/OS but have recently delved in to SuSE (SLES9) running as a guest under z/VM 5.1. Up until now we've used ECKD but will be installing a DS8100 formatted as FBA (SCSI over FCP). Cloning guests is painless and quick on CKD, but am told cloning FCP-attached SCSI Linux systems is more complicated. Currently our master image resides on 2 3390-9s , and except for /boot, is defined in one volume group. This relatively small system can then be propogated with each Linux instance needed. It takes about 30-45 minutes to create a new Linux image. Once a Linux image is built, if additional space is needed we're hoping we can simply add the larger SCSI disk to the volume group. I am having a hard time finding information on mixing disk architecture in an LVM. Since the CKD is emulating FBA, does LVM even care that it is CKD as opposed to FBA? Is anyone out there doing this? Thanks in advance for any help. Susan -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Grub - only slightly off topic
If llop is not compiled in kernel but rather as a module, you can use rmmod loop modprobe loop max_loop=nn --- Lee Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi... I have my new SLED10 Intel system that I want to use for my FTP server for z installs, but... Trying to run the installation tree script it says I need more loop devices. OK, shouldn't be a big deal, I've done that on several z SLES9 systems... Just add max_loop=64 to the kernel parms in zipl.conf, run zipl, reboot and it's fixed.. First I tried adding it to the kernel parms for the boot loader via Yast. I can see where that changed the menu.1st file in /boot/grub, and from /var/log/boot.msg I see where it's passed as part of the kernel command line -- then a little while later I see loop: loaded (max 8 devices). Anyone have any experience with Grub and SLED10 and adding loop devices? Thanks, Lee -- Lee Stewart, Senior SE Sirius Enterprise Systems Group Phone: (303) 798-2954 Fax: (720) 228-2321 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.siriuscom.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
error in SLES10 documentation
If someone already mentioned it, sorry, I missed it. I spent long time fighting with automatic installation (why did they change parmfile so much ?) and found this in documentation quote OsaInterface=eth|tr OsaMedium=lcs|qdio For osa network devices, specify the physical medium (eth for ethernet or tr for token ring) and the host interface (qdio or lcs). /quote I think the right syntax is OsaInterface=lcs|qdio OsaMedium=eth|tr This way it works in parmfile and makes sense if you match it with description Marian Gasparovic IBM Slovakia __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: SLES/SLED10 RC Software Available
Because of PC centric nature of Linux ? Really, I went to LPIC-1 exam, from first 10 questions 9 () were about X Windows. first one was like which file stores default greeting for GNOME, another one where is default background stored etc. Later a lot of BIOS, sound settings, IRQs, USB etc. I passed but guessed a lot :) --- Carsten Otte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark D Pace wrote: Why is the GNOME Desktop Environment a default selection for s390x?!?! It does'nt make sense to me either. -- Carsten Otte IBM Linux technology center ARCH=s390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Websphere Information Integrator
In situations like this, check matrix at http://www-1.ibm.com/linux/matrix/linuxmatrixhwz.html# WII is not available on z --- Frank Swarbrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is anyone out there in zSeries land running Websphere Information Integrator (WII) on zSeries Linux? Does anyone know if it's even available? The website (http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/integration/db2ii/requirements.html) indicates Linux support, but there's no mention of zSeries processor support, so I have questions about its zSeries availability. There is mention of Intel and AMD so I'm concerned that its not available for zSeries. Thanks, Frank --- Frank Swarbrick Senior Developer/Analyst - Mainframe Applications Development FirstBank Data Corporation - (303) 235-1403 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
sharing filesystems
There was a thread couple of weeks ago about sharing filesystems using a way which didn't work. If I want to share fs read/write for several Linux images under z/VM, does z/VM helps with it ? So far the only possibility I know is to run NFS server and mount its r/w exported fs to other images. Are there any other possibilities to share fs r/w ? Thank you === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: sharing filesystems
I mention z/VM only to make sure there is nothing in mdisk magic which could help Something available for SLES ? Marian --- Dave Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Marian. I would suggest that you look into using one of the Linux file systems that are meant to be shared by various Linux images, be they virtual under z/VM or real on Intel hardware. 1) OpenAFS (the folks over at Sine Nomine http://www.sinenomine.net/ know a lot about this one) 2) IBM's GPFS (although I don't know if this is available for zLinux yet.) 3) RedHat's Global File System (original done by Sistina, I believe...) http://www.redhat.com/software/rha/gfs/ These are all pure Linux file systems; there is no z/VM involvement at all, except for z/VM providing the normal hypervisor functions for Linux guests. DJ Marian Gasparovic wrote: There was a thread couple of weeks ago about sharing filesystems using a way which didn't work. If I want to share fs read/write for several Linux images under z/VM, does z/VM helps with it ? So far the only possibility I know is to run NFS server and mount its r/w exported fs to other images. Are there any other possibilities to share fs r/w ? Thank you === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: x3270 Keymap Utility?
Change your keybord settings in putty to X11 or Linux, one of them will work. As far as I know, c3270 cannot handle Ctrl keys but all others work fine from .x3270pro --- Ranga Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From within my putty ssh session to Linux LPAR, when I run x3270, some of my PF keys are translated to F1 = [11~ F2 = [12~ F3 = [13~ All other function keys seem to work OK! I am not using X, only ssh command line interface. Should I override these in .x3270pro file? Does c3270 use .x3270pro automatically? Joe Poole [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/12/2004 05:01 AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: x3270 Keymap Utility? On Wednesday 11 February 2004 17:55, you wrote: I have a problem with the keymap too. some function keys dont work and I dont know where the definitions live. Is it part of the source that I have to recompile? I have poked around but with no luck. Also, my x3270 came as part of SuSE. I only have the binary rpms. I use a SuSE desktop, too. Here's the instructions I put together to remind me (I'm getting old) how to activate the new settings: Keyboard remapping: Apply these changes to make x3270 behave like Extra! Sessions: Use a File Manager with root priveleges to access the /home/userid directory. Change the view to show hidden files and use Kedit or some other editor to add theses statements to the end of .Xresources: ! ! Some adjustments to the keyboard of x3270: ! x3270.keymap.custom:\ KeyEscape:Reset()\n\ KeyReturn:Newline()\n\ KeyControl_R: Enter()\n\ KeyEnd: EraseEOF()\n\ KeyPause: Clear()\n\ KeyPrior: PA(1)\n\ KeyNext: PA(2)\n\ ShiftKeyF1: PF(13)\n\ ShiftKeyF2: PF(14)\n\ ShiftKeyF3: PF(15)\n\ ShiftKeyF4: PF(16)\n\ ShiftKeyF5: PF(17)\n\ ShiftKeyF6: PF(18)\n\ ShiftKeyF7: PF(19)\n\ ShiftKeyF8: PF(20)\n\ ShiftKeyF9: PF(21)\n\ ShiftKeyF10: PF(22)\n\ ShiftKeyF11: PF(23)\n\ ShiftKeyF12: PF(24)\n ! ! Now tell x3270 to use these adjustments. ! x3270.keymap: custom ! ! then open a shell and issue: xrdb -merge .Xresources When finished, save /home/userid/.Xresources and open a shell. Issue the command xrdb -merge .Xresources to activate the overrides. The next time you open a session with x3270, the changes will be in effect. Different screen models: Create an icon on the desktop and set the application path to: '/usr/X11R6/bin/x3270' -model 3279-5 mvshost1 Change the model to 3279-4 or 3279-2 as needed, and change the host field to vmhost1 as needed. = === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html
Re: x3270 Keymap Utility?
Ranga, create .x3270pro in your home directory and copy what John posted here (I have very similar one). --- Ranga Nathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a problem with the keymap too. some function keys dont work and I dont know where the definitions live. Is it part of the source that I have to recompile? I have poked around but with no luck. Also, my x3270 came as part of SuSE. I only have the binary rpms. Thanks for the help McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/11/2004 11:37 AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: x3270 Keymap Utility? This is my .x3270pro file. I don't know about having a global default, sorry x3270.keymap: mine x3270.keymap.mine: #override \ KeyPrior: PA(1)\n \ KeyNext: PA(2)\n\ KeyEscape: Attn()\n\ KeyReturn: Newline()\n\ KeyControl_R: Enter()\n\ KeyEnd: EraseEOF()\n\ KeyControl_L: Reset() -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer UICI Insurance Center Applications Solutions Team +1.817.255.3225 This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its' content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. -Original Message- From: Coffin Michael C [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 1:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: x3270 Keymap Utility? Hi Folks, Does anybody know of a nice keymap building utility (GUI) for x3270? Failing that, can somebody send me a sample x3270pro file (Note: does x3270pro need to be in the user's /home directory, or will x3270 find it if you put it in it's install directory? - I'd prefer one master override file rather than requiring each user to configure via an x3270pro file).? Michael Coffin, VM Systems Programmer Internal Revenue Service - Room 6527 Constitution Avenue, N.W. Washington, D.C. 20224 Voice: (202) 927-4188 FAX: (202) 622-6726 [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html
Re: OT: Re: Political Correctness goes mad in L.A. County (USA)
Ye, that will become very interesting. There are names commonly used in US that are very offensive words in my native language. I demand those people to change their names immediately :) To return back to mainframes, is main part of mainframe politically correct ? There are frames in HTML that should be treated equal. :) Marian --- Richards.Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Except that Sacramento is a Spanish word. Are we to be politically correct in multiple languages? grin Bob -Original Message- From:Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ward, Garry Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 12:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: OT: Re: Political Correctness goes mad in L.A. County (USA) Yeah, put you gave them an idea, unfortunately. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Fargusson.Alan Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 11:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Re: Political Correctness goes mad in L.A. County (USA) Several years ago (around 1990 I think) the county of Sacramento changed the term man hole cover to maintenance cover. They purposely kept the M and C because the covers have MC stamped on them. Now they are going to change the name of Sacramento to Sacrapeopleto. Just kidding on that last one 8-) -Original Message- From: Henry Schaffer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 8:13 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Re: Political Correctness goes mad in L.A. County (USA) When I read the following portion: ... someone within the County bureaucracy b a person who probably didn't understand computer terminology b had taken offense at 'master/slave' references and complained to the board, whereupon the Internal Services Department was obligated to issue notification requesting that vendors refrain from using that terminology. I really wondered about the sanity of the County. If a person says, I am offended by the the word computer - is the ISD really *obligated* to request ... ? I.e. is there any limit to what people can claim to find offensive? By the way, an electrical circuit design text copyrighted 1975 uses the master/slave terminology. So this is a long-standing technology usage. -- --henry schaffer P.S. Will male and female connectors be next? * The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. * __ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/
Re: OT - 3270 Emulator
Josh, I use x3270 and it is possible to remap keys as you want, even control key to enter etc. Put this into .x3270pro in your home directory x3270.keymap: mine x3270.keymap.mine: #override \ KeyReturn: Newline() \n\ KeyInsert: ToggleInsert() \n\ KeyPrior: PF(7) \n\ KeyEnd: FieldEnd() \n\ KeyControl_R: Enter() \n\ KeyControl_L: Reset() \n\ KeyNext: PF(8) ! keymap (-keymap) x3270.keymap: base,mine hope it helps Marian --- Marist EDU [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know this is a little off topic, but you guys are the best set of Linux guru's I'm aware of. Anyone know of a good (free or pay) 3270 emulator that runs on Linux. I've tried x3270 and it just isn't what I need, I need more control over the keyboard (i.e. mapping the CTL key to Enter). Printing support is also a must. TIA, Josh Konkol, CNE MCSE Technical Research Specialist .~.GuideOne Insurance /V\ /( )\ ^^-^^ [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message and accompanying documents are covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. '' 2510-2521, and contains information intended for the specified individual(s) only. This information is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, copying, or the taking of any action based on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree
history of Linux/390
Hi all I would like to present history of Linux/390 at local linux user group conference. I try to find (as my memory fails miserably) some interesting dates, like when IBM first announced they work on linux390 when was first marist filesystem available when was s390 accepted to kernel tree first commercial distribution available etc Any links available ? BTW it comes up here from time to time, but as it changes - what are actual prices for redhat and suse ? Thank you = === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree
Re: hw addr
Now I am confused. Please correct me when I am wrong. When I create guestlan of QDIO type, VM can handle it for its guests. It doesn't need real hipersocket. Guests use virtual NIC so it can work even when there are no real OSA adapters. Of course there is at least one for VM itself, but guestlan does not use it. My qdio.o is 1.145, qeth.o is 1.337.4.5. Those are the latest versions I know. During guest IPL I get qdio: loading QDIO base support version 2 ($Revision: 1.145 $/$Revision: 1.66.4.1 $) qdio: Was not able to determine general characteristics of all Hydras aboard. qeth: loading qeth S/390 OSA-Express driver ($Revision: 1.337.4.5 $/$Revision: 1.113.4.1 $/$Revision: 1.42.4.1 $:IPv6:VLAN) qeth: allocated 0 spare buffers qeth: Trying to use card with devnos 0x700/0x701/0x702 qeth: Device 0x700/0x701/0x702 is an OSD Express card (level: 2938) with link type Gigabit Eth (no portname needed by interface) qeth: VLAN not supported on eth0 qeth: IPv6 not supported on eth0 qeth: Could not set up broadcast filtering on eth0: 0x2, continuing eth0: no IPv6 routers present guestlan with static addresses work, only DHCP fails Am I right if I say it has nothing to do with real hw errors ? That it is sw error either in VM or in qdio/qeth drivers ? I don't have VM background and I didn't get answer on VM list regarding my receive/apply, maybe someone here would answer it ( although these two mailing lists have huge intersection :)) Can anybody explain this ? PTF: UM30652APAR: VM63172 -- Receive status: RECEIVED.10/24/03.06:20:56.MAINT Apply status: APPLIED.07/03/03.15:37:38.MAINT Thank you Marian --- Dennis Musselwhite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, APAR VM63172 (PTF UM30652) provided or improved support for some functions that the Linux device drivers needed to better support applications like DHCP. Our focus at that time was the QDIO model because it included the necessary broadcast support. APAR VM63172 made it possible for the qeth driver to obtain the MAC address that we generated for the virtual NIC. I can imagine a couple of reasons why the HiperSockets connections might still show MAC of zeroes: (1) Older qeth drivers did not send the request for MAC address to our simulated adapters because of IPv6 capabilities. Apparently the hardware added this support along with IPv6 so our lack of IPv6 capability in z/VM 4.3.0 implied that we also could not handle the request for MAC address. The qeth developers released an update to fix this before VM63172 was released, so make sure you have recent qdio/qeth modules. (2) The real HiperSockets facility DOES NOT provide a MAC address at all. It is entirely possible that qeth does not bother sending the request to a HiperSockets adapter (real or simulated). If you define a TYPE QDIO adapter on the same guest and bring up the interface, the ifconfig command should report the same MAC address that you see with CP QUERY NIC details. That would indicate that your drivers are new enough to handle the request. Regards, Dennis Dennis Musselwhite ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) z/VM Development -- CP Network Simulation -- IBM Endicott NY = === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. __ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/
Re: hw addr
Alan, is there any other APAR related to that ? I installed VM63172 UM30652 CP ASSIST LINUX DHCP APPLICATIONS USING VM GUEST LAN but it doesn't help. BTW, descriprion for this APAR mentions mac addresses of all zeroes VM Guest LAN simulation did not * support the adapter function that * returned the MAC Address to the driver, * so all Linux DHCP clients were * operating with a MAC Address of * but didn't help. But as I said on VM mailing list it says applied time older then receive time, so I am not sure if it is ok. Thank you Marian --- Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday, 10/15/2003 at 08:24 MST, Marian Gasparovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some kind of zSeries, it runs in 64 bit mode. (not ours, so I cannot find out) I think you have one or both of these problems: 1. a hardware problem wherein Linux cannot extract information it is looking for from the hardware. 2. the VM APAR is not applied and so Linux cannot obtain the MAC address The hydra message indicates a failure in the hardware. That may or may not have an effect on problem #2. I would not expect problem #1 on any IBM hardware. Alan Altmark Sr. Software Engineer IBM z/VM Development __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com
Re: hw addr
Alan, as those are virtual NIC I don't suspect a hw problem (it is indeed real hw not Hercules - I see you recognize my name from Hercules mailing list) and I found out they are on RSU 0201, so I need to ask them to go to 0302. Thank you for now, if I have any problem you will here from me for sure :) Marian --- Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday, 10/15/2003 at 08:24 MST, Marian Gasparovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some kind of zSeries, it runs in 64 bit mode. (not ours, so I cannot find out) I think you have one or both of these problems: 1. a hardware problem wherein Linux cannot extract information it is looking for from the hardware. 2. the VM APAR is not applied and so Linux cannot obtain the MAC address The hydra message indicates a failure in the hardware. That may or may not have an effect on problem #2. I would not expect problem #1 on any IBM hardware. Alan Altmark Sr. Software Engineer IBM z/VM Development __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com
Re: hw addr
Thank to kind people on this list I know the VM part of my question. Could anybody help with Linux part ? Why do I get hw address of zeros ? Thank you Marian --- Marian Gasparovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And qdio says upon loading qdio : Was not able to determine general characteristics of all Hydras aboard --- Marian Gasparovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, can anybody help please ? When I create NIC in zVM, it says Port 0 MAC: 00-04-AC-00-00-00 When I start eth0 in that guest, ifconfig says eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:00:00:00:00:00 It does the same for every guest. Anyhow, networking in this guest lan works. What am I doing wrong ? Thank you I use Debian 2.4.21 and zVM 4.3. And another question, it is pure VM - they say in redbook, I need APAR VM63172 installed for DHCP broadcast. How do I find out if it is installed ? I never worked with VMSES. = === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com
Re: hw addr
Then why there are ones in redbook I have followed ? And how does it handle dhcp then ? Marian --- David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guest LAN interfaces do not have MAC addresses, thus there's nothing to put in there. -- db David Boyes Sine Nomine Associates -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marian Gasparovic Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 3:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: hw addr Thank to kind people on this list I know the VM part of my question. Could anybody help with Linux part ? Why do I get hw address of zeros ? Thank you Marian __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com
Re: hw addr
qdio guestlan --- David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then why there are ones in redbook I have followed ? And how does it handle dhcp then ? Are your GLANs type OSA or hipersocket? __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com
Re: hw addr
Some kind of zSeries, it runs in 64 bit mode. (not ours, so I cannot find out) --- Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday, 10/15/2003 at 12:14 MST, Marian Gasparovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank to kind people on this list I know the VM part of my question. Could anybody help with Linux part ? Why do I get hw address of zeros ? What kind of processor are you running on? Alan Altmark Sr. Software Engineer IBM z/VM Development __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com
Re: hw addr
Isn't there anybody who can help with it ? Marian --- Marian Gasparovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And qdio says upon loading qdio : Was not able to determine general characteristics of all Hydras aboard --- Marian Gasparovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, can anybody help please ? When I create NIC in zVM, it says Port 0 MAC: 00-04-AC-00-00-00 When I start eth0 in that guest, ifconfig says eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:00:00:00:00:00 It does the same for every guest. Anyhow, networking in this guest lan works. What am I doing wrong ? Thank you I use Debian 2.4.21 and zVM 4.3. And another question, it is pure VM - they say in redbook, I need APAR VM63172 installed for DHCP broadcast. How do I find out if it is installed ? I never worked with VMSES. __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com
hw addr
Hi all, can anybody help please ? When I create NIC in zVM, it says Port 0 MAC: 00-04-AC-00-00-00 When I start eth0 in that guest, ifconfig says eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:00:00:00:00:00 It does the same for every guest. Anyhow, networking in this guest lan works. What am I doing wrong ? Thank you I use Debian 2.4.21 and zVM 4.3. And another question, it is pure VM - they say in redbook, I need APAR VM63172 installed for DHCP broadcast. How do I find out if it is installed ? I never worked with VMSES. = === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com
Re: hw addr
And qdio says upon loading qdio : Was not able to determine general characteristics of all Hydras aboard --- Marian Gasparovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, can anybody help please ? When I create NIC in zVM, it says Port 0 MAC: 00-04-AC-00-00-00 When I start eth0 in that guest, ifconfig says eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:00:00:00:00:00 It does the same for every guest. Anyhow, networking in this guest lan works. What am I doing wrong ? Thank you I use Debian 2.4.21 and zVM 4.3. And another question, it is pure VM - they say in redbook, I need APAR VM63172 installed for DHCP broadcast. How do I find out if it is installed ? I never worked with VMSES. = === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com
Re: adding dasd under SUSE Enterprise 8...
more minidisks). I only have to reboot Linux and the disks are online. You don't have to reboot Linux It was answered here yesterday, use echo add device range=xxx-yyy /proc/dasd/devices __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com
Re: adding dasd under SUSE Enterprise 8...
You can even do it dynamically without IPL by something like echo add device range=xxx-yyy /proc/dasd/devices Both scenarios are well documented in Linux for S/390: Device Drivers and Installation Commands Marian --- Phil Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simple way is to amend the zipl.conf to add the vm address of the minidisk e.g. parameters='dasd=0999,0300-0303, root=/dev/dasdb1 noinitrd add your new disk to the end as the order is important. Then run zipl and reboot. Cat /proc/dasd/devices to see that it is there and check what the /dev/dasd name is. then you can partition it (e.g. mk2fs) and finally format the filesystem of your choice (e.g. mkfs.ext2). Good Luck. -Original Message- From: Brian France [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 September 2003 12:58 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: adding dasd under SUSE Enterprise 8... Can someone please point me in the right direction. I've installed SUSE 8 under VM 4.3. During the install I used three DASD, a,b, and c. I want to add another file system on different dasd, format it and add a mount point. I can't for the life of me find where. I thought YAST would be the spot, but there under SYSTEM, Partitioner, it says something to the effect of editing initrd by ssh'ing in. Well, I've found initrd under /boot, but it sure doesn't appear editable. I have the mini disk under this linux id in vm and I've even rebooted the image. So, please point me some where to figure this out. THANX Brian W. France Systems Engineer I Pennsylvania State University Administrative Information Services - Infrastructure Rm 25 Shields Bldg., University Park, Pa. 16802 814-863-4739 [EMAIL PROTECTED] = === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com
reIPL
Hi all, I have installed Debian390 under zVM, it works fine, but whenever I shutdown Debian, I cannot IPL it again, it goes to disabled state, it cannot mount root filesystem. But when I recycle z/VM, I can IPL Debian again. It happens every time. I think it is something with zVM settings, but as I am not VM enabled, could anybody point me where to look ? Thank you = === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
Re: reIPL
I found it in the meantime, ipl clear was the magic touch :) Marian --- Marian Gasparovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I have installed Debian390 under zVM, it works fine, but whenever I shutdown Debian, I cannot IPL it again, it goes to disabled state, it cannot mount root filesystem. But when I recycle z/VM, I can IPL Debian again. It happens every time. I think it is something with zVM settings, but as I am not VM enabled, could anybody point me where to look ? Thank you = === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com = === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
Re: Problems with sysstat package on Debian
I am on 2.4.21, disk_io is empty too. Marian --- Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jul 18, 2003 at 08:37:55AM -0600, Hodge, Robert L wrote: I'm having problems with the sysstat package on the Debian 3.01 distribution. sar -b is returning all zeroes for disk activity and iostat is not reporting anything for disk. It looks like iostat is not finding any disks. I've searched the archives of this list and other lists with no positive results. I've done numerous web searches with no results. I've upgraded the sysstat package to 4.1.2 from 4.0.4 with no resolution to the problem. I've upgraded the Linux kernel to 2.4.21 from 2.4.17 with no resolution to the problem. The Debian guest is running under z/VM 4.3 on a z/800 processor. Can anyone tell how to fix the sysstat package on Debian 3.01 for S/390? It looks like this is a kernel issue, and not systat. If you look in /proc/stat, you'll see that the disk_io line is empty, whereas on (for example) an Intel system with SCSI disks, it contains info like this: disk_io: (3,0):(454481,215862,18852900,238619,11184288) (8,0):(742898,347204,9634940,395694,6420320) I only tested with the 2.4.17 kernel in Debian 3.0; this may be fixed in newer kernels such as the 2.4.19 kernel in proposed-updates and unstable. -- - mdz __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com
Re: configuring debian390 under hercules
Thank you Mark, that was the main problem. Marian --- Post, Mark K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marian, You want this in /etc/modules.conf alias eth0 lcs Mark Post -Original Message- From: Marian Gasparovic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 11:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: configuring debian390 under hercules Hi all, I posted this question to hercules mailing list too, but got no answer, could anybody here help please ? I try to configure network on debian390 under hercules. Hercules runs on Mandrake on PC. I am able to use ctc under debian390 and I want to configure lcs as well but I am limited by my knowledge. LCS for hercules is configured like 0B00 LCS --dev /dev/net/tun --oat debian.oat debian.oat contains 0B00 IP 00 PRI 192.168.5.10 HWADD 00 12:12:12:12:12:12 ROUTE 00 192.168.5.10 255.255.252.0 On debian390, under /etc/modutils there are alias lcs0 lcs and lcs-1,0x0b00,0xb01,0,0,0,0 and update-modules was ran When I start debian390, I get Starting lcs module $Revision: 1.128 $ $Date: 2002/03/01 16:56:47 $ with chandev support,with multicast support, with ethernet support, with token r ing support. debug: lcs: new level 0 lcs_sleepon network card taking time responding irq=0004 devno=0b01, please be patient, ctrl-c will exit if shell prompt is available. eth0: ip v6 supported no enabled no eth0: multicast supported yes enabled yes HHCTU024E tap0: Invalid gateway address: NULL. lcs: eth0 configured as follows read subchannel=5 write subchannel=4 read_devno=0b00 write_devno=0b01 hw_address=12:12:12:12:12:12 rel_adapter_no=0 SIOCSIFADDR: No such device lcs0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device SIOCSIFNETMASK: No such device lcs0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device done. What am I doing wrong ? When I ipl debian390 from virtual tape I am able to setup LCS Thank you __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com
Re: Good Article
No luck for international users- as usual. It happens so often :((( Did that, followed the links, got this: Available to qualified residents of U.S. and Canada only. Ah, maybe that's why it hasn't shown up... :( = === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/
distributions
I was away from Linux390 for couple of months and I probably missed some events. Are main distributions (RedHat, SuSE and TurboLinux) still free ? I found link to download SuSE, TurboLinux wants registration but looks to be free, but RedHat seems to be payed. Do I miss something ? Thank you = === Marian Gasparovic === The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://http://taxes.yahoo.com/