Re: X11amp

[Alan Bryant]

Ahhh...I see, thank you very much.

On Wednesday 11 July 2001 12:44 am, Eddie Arteaga wrote:
> On Wednesday 11 July 2001 00:12, you wrote:
> > I tried there, it doesn't come up...I also tried sourceforge, but it
> > evidently isn't hosted there.
>
> http://memory.xmms.org/x11amp_v5/download.html
>
> x11amp is now xmms
>
> Eddie
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Re: X11amp

[Eddie Arteaga]

On Wednesday 11 July 2001 00:12, you wrote:
> I tried there, it doesn't come up...I also tried sourceforge, but it
> evidently isn't hosted there.
>

http://memory.xmms.org/x11amp_v5/download.html

x11amp is now xmms

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Re: X11amp

[Alan Bryant]

I tried there, it doesn't come up...I also tried sourceforge, but it 
evidently isn't hosted there.

On Tuesday 10 July 2001 11:54 pm, Net Llama wrote:
> --- Alan Bryant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Does anyone here happen to know where to find x11amp?
>
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Re: KernelBuild 2.4.6

[Rick Sivernell]

> Rick:
>
> I haven't been following the thread   do you need to know who to build
> an initrd file?
Bruce

  I beleive that my settings from xconfig may not be proper at this time. I 
will retry to set the configuration tomorrow. Marcus sent a earlier post 
about initrd.sh. I will try  mkinitrd.sh i2.4.6, that should give me 
initrd-2.4.6.gz, I beleive that is the correct syntax. What I am not sure 
about at this time is vmlinuz-2.4.6  as 2.4.2 has vmlinuz-2.4.2.modules. 
Guess some faq is inorder here.

If you can educate me, I will lift a cold one in your name.

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Re: X11amp

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--- Alan Bryant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone here happen to know where to find x11amp?

freshmeat.net

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X11amp

[Alan Bryant]

Does anyone here happen to know where to find x11amp?

Thanks,
Alan
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Re: Sound problem

[Alan Bryant]

Yup, it does...I wouldn't worry about it if I didn't play DVDs on my PC (or 
want to anyway...haven't gotten that working, yet), because since ogg is 
functioning pretty well for me, I plan on encoding all my music cds and 
putting them on my hd (need to use the space for something!)

Thanks a lot for the help, though, i appreciate it.

On Tuesday 10 July 2001 10:43 pm, Tony Alfrey wrote:
> Well, I'm clueless.  It sees your mixer.  A wild guess: does the number
> in the "Mixers" list below (SigmaTel STAC9721/23) match the little
> label on the mixer panel that appears when you punch up the sound mixer
> (command kmix)?
>
> On Tuesday 10 July 2001 08:13 pm, Alan Bryant wrote:
> > This is the output:
> >
> > abryant@joker:~ > cat /proc/asound/sndstat
> > Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v0.5.10a emulation code)
> > Kernel: Linux joker 2.4.0-4GB #1 Wed Jan 24 15:55:09 GMT 2001 i686
> > Config options: 0
> >
> > Installed drivers:
> > Type 10: ALSA emulation
> >
> > Card config:
> > Sound Blaster Live! at 0xb800, irq 10
> >
> > Audio devices:
> > 0: EMU10K1 (DUPLEX)
> >
> > Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG
> >
> > Midi devices:
> > 0: EMU10K1 MPU-401 (UART)
> >
> > Timers:
> > 7: system timer
> >
> > Mixers:
> > 0: SigmaTel STAC9721/23
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Re: KernelBuild 2.4.6

[Bruce Marshall]

On Tuesday 10 July 2001 17:47, Collins Richey wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 21:07:28 -0500 Rick Sivernell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> OK, now I understand, but this is out of my league.  initrd is used for
> scsi drives, if I remember correctly; it should be supplied with 3.1.
> I'll sign off this thread, because I can't contribute anything more.

Nope. initrd can be used for anything that is required at boot time but 
which was made into a module at compile time.  Like reiserfs, or in my case, 
yes, a second scsi controller.   It is read onto a ram disk first thing at 
boot so that the modules are available during the boot.

Rick:

I haven't been following the thread   do you need to know who to build an 
initrd file?



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Re: kppp on valium

[Net Llama]

http://sxs.sourceforge.net/sxs/pppclient.htm
Addenda #1

--- Tony Alfrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't really know what this means: I assume it means making pppd
> give 
> me a list, or log, of messages.  I looked on SxS for this but nothing 
> struck a chord.  Can you tell me what heading I pick in the index?
> 
> On Saturday 07 July 2001 11:06 pm, Net Llama wrote:
> > You might want to setup separate logging for pppd to see exactly
> what
> > its doing.  The SxS covers how to do this.
> >
> 

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Re: Thanks

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--- Antonie C Malan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks for your help the other day.  I followed the SXS and installed
> RPM 
> 3.0.6.  Now make runs for about 20 minutes (maybe more) and exits with
> a 
> different error message.  
> 
> Eventually I ran make -k (continues, even if it can't make everything)
> and 
> installed what was made.  At least I got the new 2.1.1 version of
> KPackage.
> 
> I've visited the files mentioned in the error message, but correcting
> them is 
> beyond me.  I've even asked make to ignore lilo-config, but it doesn't
> do 
> that.
> 
> I've attached the last bit of the make printout, the bit with the
> error 
> message.  Any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> Chris> g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I/opt/kde/include
> -I/usr/local/qt/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -O2 -fno-exceptions
> -fno-check-new -Wall -pedantic -W -Wpointer-arith -Wmissing-prototypes
> -Wwrite-strings -Wno-long-long -Wnon-virtual-dtor
> -fno-builtin -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_COMPAT -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -c
> String.cc  -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/String.o
> String.cc: In method `StringList::operator String() const':
> String.cc:365: ambiguous overload for `String != const char[2]'
> String.cc:365: candidates are: operator !=(char *, char *) 
> /usr/include/g++/std/bastring.h:542: operator != string_char_traits, alloc>(const
>
basic_string,__default_alloc_template
> > &, const char *)
> String.cc:365: ambiguous overload for `String != const char[2]'
> String.cc:365: candidates are: operator !=(char *, char *) 
> /usr/include/g++/std/bastring.h:542: operator != string_char_traits, alloc>(const
>
basic_string,__default_alloc_template
> > &, const char *)
> make[3]: *** [String.lo] Error 1
> make[3]: Leaving directory
> `/archive/KDE/kdeadmin-2.1.1/lilo-config/common'
> make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make[2]: Leaving directory `/archive/KDE/kdeadmin-2.1.1/lilo-config'
> make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/archive/KDE/kdeadmin-2.1.1'
> make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2


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Re: Sound problem

[Tony Alfrey]

Well, I'm clueless.  It sees your mixer.  A wild guess: does the number 
in the "Mixers" list below (SigmaTel STAC9721/23) match the little 
label on the mixer panel that appears when you punch up the sound mixer 
(command kmix)?


On Tuesday 10 July 2001 08:13 pm, Alan Bryant wrote:
> This is the output:
>
> abryant@joker:~ > cat /proc/asound/sndstat
> Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v0.5.10a emulation code)
> Kernel: Linux joker 2.4.0-4GB #1 Wed Jan 24 15:55:09 GMT 2001 i686
> Config options: 0
>
> Installed drivers:
> Type 10: ALSA emulation
>
> Card config:
> Sound Blaster Live! at 0xb800, irq 10
>
> Audio devices:
> 0: EMU10K1 (DUPLEX)
>
> Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG
>
> Midi devices:
> 0: EMU10K1 MPU-401 (UART)
>
> Timers:
> 7: system timer
>
> Mixers:
> 0: SigmaTel STAC9721/23
>
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Re: OggVorbis

[Alan Bryant]

On Tuesday 10 July 2001 10:14 pm, Tim Wunder wrote:
> On Tuesday 10 July 2001 11:07 pm, you wrote:
> > I suppose you don't recall what command line args you gave it?
>
> Nope. It was at least a year ago when I was looking into it. My memory has
> trouble with a week ago, I've got no shot at a year ;-)

lol, I know how you feel...

> > Actually, I just encoded a second song, and their is hardly ANY crackling
> > in it. I guess sometimes it just depends.
>
> Could've been just the song I chose, then.

It has to be, because I just encoded another song that has absolutely NO 
crackling in it whatsoever.
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Re: KernelBuild 2.4.6

[Collins Richey]

On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 21:07:28 -0500 Rick Sivernell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> On Tuesday 10 July 2001 14:26, you wrote:
> > On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 10:14:48 -0500 Rick Sivernell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > Collins
> > >
> > > Got compile with no error, no unresolves.
> > >
> > > On SxS you say modify menu.lst
> > >
> > > menu.lst now:
> > > kernel = /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.6-modular vga=274 quiet root=/dev/hda1
> > > #kernel = /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.2-modular vga=274 quiet root=/dev/hda1
> > > initrd = /boot/initrd-2.4.6.gz
> > > #initrd = /boot/initrd-2.4.2.gz
> > >
> > > were do I get the initrd-2.4.6.gz file or do I need to create it?
> > > I did remove symlink to vmlinuz-2.4.2-modular & set it to
> vmlinuz-2.4.6,
> > > is
> > > this correct.
> >
> > Rick,
> >
> > I don't have a clue what you are referring to.  My kernel compile SxS
> > makes no mention of initrd anything.  Can you point me to the SxS you
> are
> > following.
> >
> > As to the latter, if your /boot has a symlink like vmlinuz -->
> vmlinuz...
> > you can either remove it and point it to the new kernel, or you can
> change
> > your lilo or grub to add a new entry that points to the new kernel
> name.
> Collins
> 
>   You are correct it does not. It does say modify /boot//grub/menu.lst.
> My menu.lst for 2.4.2:
> #
> # /boot/grub/menu.lst - generated by Lizard
> #
>  
>  
> # options
>  
> timeout = 5
> splashscreen = (hd0,1)/boot/message.col24
>  
> default = 0
>  
> title  = Linux
> root   = (hd0,1)
> kernel = /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.2-modular vga=274 quiet root=/dev/hda1
> initrd = /boot/initrd-2.4.2.gz
> 
> now menu.lst
> #
> # /boot/grub/menu.lst - generated by Lizard
> #
>  
>  
> # options
>  
> timeout = 5
> splashscreen = (hd0,1)/boot/message.col24
>  
> default = 0
>  
> title  = Linux
> root   = (hd0,1)
> kernel = /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.6 vga=274 quiet root=/dev/hda1
> #kernel = /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.2-modular vga=274 quiet root=/dev/hda1
> commented 
> out
> initrd = /boot/initrd-2.4.6.gz
> #initrd = /boot/initrd-2.4.2.gz  commented out
> 
> /boot dir:
> [rick@RSivernell rick]$ ll /boot
> total 2740
> lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   31 May 27 08:28 System.map-2.4.2
> -> 
> /usr/src/linux-2.4.2/System.map
> lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root1 May 27 08:30 boot -> .
> -rw-r--r--   1 root root 4580 Mar 10 06:39 boot.b
> -rwxr-xr-x   1 root root 4560 Mar 10 06:39 boot.b.orig
> -rw-r--r--   1 root root  624 Mar 10 06:39 chain.b
> drwxr-xr-x   3 root root 1024 Jul 10 14:12 grub
> -rw-r--r--   1 root root   610883 May 27 08:30 initrd-2.4.2.gz
> added
> -rw-r--r--   1 root root   376771 Jul 10 13:51 initrd-2.4.6.gz
> drwxr-xr-x   2 root root12288 May 27 07:45 lost+found
> lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   13 May 27 08:09 message -> 
> message.col24
> -r--r--r--   1 root root43777 Mar 10 06:39 message.col24
> -rw-r--r--   1 root root  632 Mar 10 06:39 os2_d.b
> -r   1 root root21550 Mar  9 20:26 stage3.pcx
> -rw-r--r--   1 root root  512 Mar 15  1999 virgin.mbr
> lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   13 Jul 10 10:07 vmlinuz -> 
> vmlinuz-2.4.6
> -rw-r--r--   1 root root   771816 Mar  9 23:16
> vmlinuz-2.4.2-modular  
> was  vmlinuz->vmlinuz-2.4.2-modular now below
> -rw-r--r--   1 root root   933725 Jul 10 09:56 vmlinuz-2.4.6
> 
> my problem maybe in the modules to compile into the kernel.
> 

OK, now I understand, but this is out of my league.  initrd is used for
scsi drives, if I remember correctly; it should be supplied with 3.1. 
I'll sign off this thread, because I can't contribute anything more.

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Re: kppp on valium

[Tony Alfrey]

I don't really know what this means: I assume it means making pppd give 
me a list, or log, of messages.  I looked on SxS for this but nothing 
struck a chord.  Can you tell me what heading I pick in the index?

On Saturday 07 July 2001 11:06 pm, Net Llama wrote:
> You might want to setup separate logging for pppd to see exactly what
> its doing.  The SxS covers how to do this.
>


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Re: OggVorbis

[Alan Bryant]

Alright, great, maybe I can learn a little something about it. =)

On Tuesday 10 July 2001 10:23 pm, Alan Jackson wrote:
> I'm about to submit one on ripping LP's and burning CD's, including a small
> amount of stuff on Ogg and mp3.
>
> I like the command-line tools.
>
> On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 20:44:50 -0500  Alan Bryant wrote:
> > I'm just curious as to wether or not anyone hear has had any experience
> > with ogg audio files? Have you ripped any cds into ogg format instead of
> > mp3? If so, did you just use oggenc and cdparanoia or cdda2wav, or did
> > you use a GUI frontend to those? IMHO, this would make a cool SxS if
> > anyone has any experience with it. I know I'm interested.
> >
> > Alan
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Re: OggVorbis

[Alan Jackson]

I'm about to submit one on ripping LP's and burning CD's, including a small
amount of stuff on Ogg and mp3.

I like the command-line tools.

On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 20:44:50 -0500  Alan Bryant wrote:
> I'm just curious as to wether or not anyone hear has had any experience with 
> ogg audio files? Have you ripped any cds into ogg format instead of mp3? If 
> so, did you just use oggenc and cdparanoia or cdda2wav, or did you use a GUI 
> frontend to those? IMHO, this would make a cool SxS if anyone has any 
> experience with it. I know I'm interested.
> 
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Re: OggVorbis

[Tim Wunder]

On Tuesday 10 July 2001 11:07 pm, you wrote:
> I suppose you don't recall what command line args you gave it?
>

Nope. It was at least a year ago when I was looking into it. My memory has 
trouble with a week ago, I've got no shot at a year ;-)

> Actually, I just encoded a second song, and their is hardly ANY crackling
> in it. I guess sometimes it just depends.
>

Could've been just the song I chose, then.

> On Tuesday 10 July 2001 09:51 pm, Tim Wunder wrote:
> > It's been a while since I played with OGG, but IIRC, it really depended
> > heavily on the options for encoding the song. The couple of OGGs I did
> > were indistinguishable from thei MP3 couterparts, yet were smaller. I
> > haven't played around with OGG encoding from a while, though.
> > Tim
> >
> > On Tuesday 10 July 2001 10:54 pm, you wrote:
> > > Now that I have actually listened to an ogg file that I encoded from my
> > > cd, and gone back and read the FAQ on the Vorbis website, ogg files
> > > aren't quite audio superior to MP3files yet, because oggenc (the ogg
> > > encoder) isn't as far along as the actual ogg format. There is quite a
> > > bit of popping and crackling during the song in the ogg file.
> > >
> > > On Tuesday 10 July 2001 08:49 pm, Jerry McBride wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 20:44:50 -0500
> > > >
> > > > Alan Bryant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > I'm just curious as to wether or not anyone hear has had any
> > > > > experience with ogg audio files?
> > > >
> > > > Hey Alan...  What's the difference between ogg and mp3, besides the
> > > > formats?
> > >
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Re: Compiling SRPMs and i386, versus i686

[Shawn Tayler]

On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 09:38:06 -0600, Kurt Wall wrote:

>% Just looking for a little wisdom from the list
>
>I've got a wisdom tooth you can have, if you think it will help...
>
>Kurt

Thanks for the info Kurt.  I'll use that after my initial compile goes
off without a hitch.  

On the "hardware offer" I'll take a pass  ;-)

stayler

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Re: Sound problem

[Alan Bryant]

This is the output:

abryant@joker:~ > cat /proc/asound/sndstat
Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v0.5.10a emulation code)
Kernel: Linux joker 2.4.0-4GB #1 Wed Jan 24 15:55:09 GMT 2001 i686
Config options: 0
 
Installed drivers:
Type 10: ALSA emulation
 
Card config:
Sound Blaster Live! at 0xb800, irq 10
 
Audio devices:
0: EMU10K1 (DUPLEX)
 
Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG
 
Midi devices:
0: EMU10K1 MPU-401 (UART)
 
Timers:
7: system timer
 
Mixers:
0: SigmaTel STAC9721/23

On Tuesday 10 July 2001 10:00 pm, Tony Alfrey wrote:
> What do you get when you command
> cat /proc/asound/sndstat  ??
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Re: OggVorbis

[Alan Bryant]

I suppose you don't recall what command line args you gave it?

Actually, I just encoded a second song, and their is hardly ANY crackling in 
it. I guess sometimes it just depends.

On Tuesday 10 July 2001 09:51 pm, Tim Wunder wrote:
> It's been a while since I played with OGG, but IIRC, it really depended
> heavily on the options for encoding the song. The couple of OGGs I did were
> indistinguishable from thei MP3 couterparts, yet were smaller. I haven't
> played around with OGG encoding from a while, though.
> Tim
>
> On Tuesday 10 July 2001 10:54 pm, you wrote:
> > Now that I have actually listened to an ogg file that I encoded from my
> > cd, and gone back and read the FAQ on the Vorbis website, ogg files
> > aren't quite audio superior to MP3files yet, because oggenc (the ogg
> > encoder) isn't as far along as the actual ogg format. There is quite a
> > bit of popping and crackling during the song in the ogg file.
> >
> > On Tuesday 10 July 2001 08:49 pm, Jerry McBride wrote:
> > > On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 20:44:50 -0500
> > >
> > > Alan Bryant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > I'm just curious as to wether or not anyone hear has had any
> > > > experience with ogg audio files?
> > >
> > > Hey Alan...  What's the difference between ogg and mp3, besides the
> > > formats?
> >
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Re: Sound problem

[Tony Alfrey]

What do you get when you command
cat /proc/asound/sndstat  ??


On Tuesday 10 July 2001 07:51 pm, Alan Bryant wrote:
> Nothing is muted either. I checked that, too.
>
> On Tuesday 10 July 2001 09:40 pm, Tony Alfrey wrote:
> > I think he's suggesting to check the mute button on each slider.
> >
> > On Tuesday 10 July 2001 07:33 pm, Alan Bryant wrote:
> > > Sadly, this isn't it. =( I've turned EVERYTHING up as high as it
> > > would go, still no good.
> > >
> > > On Tuesday 10 July 2001 03:09 pm, Collins Richey wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 18:23:45 -0500 Alan Bryant
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > > > Hey everyone, I have a sound problem...I'm running an almost
> > > > > stock install of
> > > > > SuSE Linux 7.1, except for KDE2, which I have KDE2.2beta1. I
> > > > > have SB Live!
> > > > > Platinum sound card which has worked perfectly on past
> > > > > installs of every Linux distro that has been installed with
> > > > > it, but not this time. The problem
> > > > > is, KDE2 sounds work perfectly, I can listen to MP3s, but I
> > > > > can't listen to
> > > > > cds at all. the cds play, but no sound comes out.
> > > >
> > > > Frequently this is because the mixer controls default to no
> > > > sound. Bring up a mixer app and toggle the settings.  If this
> > > > isn't it, I don't have a clue.
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Re: OggVorbis

[Alan Bryant]

I think they can pull it off...aside from the crackling, the audio seems 
somewhat clearer. I have a 5 minute song that is only 1 meg in size in ogg 
format. This particular song has some loud parts in it, and you can't tell 
there's any crackling in it, and sounds nicer than mp3. Just my $0.02, though.

On Tuesday 10 July 2001 09:56 pm, Jerry McBride wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 21:54:09 -0500
>
> Alan Bryant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Now that I have actually listened to an ogg file that I encoded from my
> > cd, and gone back and read the FAQ on the Vorbis website, ogg files
> > aren't quite audio superior to MP3files yet, because oggenc (the ogg
> > encoder) isn't as far
> >
> > along as the actual ogg format. There is quite a bit of popping and
> > crackling
> >
> > during the song in the ogg file.
>
> Yeah. That was my impression too... I've been to ogg a couple of minutes
> ago and tested some stuff. I'm real excited. I hope they can pull this
> stuff off like OGG claims. It'll be another hole in the dike that the riaa
> can try and plug...
>
> The way I see it, mp3 is real mature... It'll be hard to impove upon.
>
> Thanks for the messages, Alan.
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Re: OggVorbis

[Tim Wunder]

It's been a while since I played with OGG, but IIRC, it really depended 
heavily on the options for encoding the song. The couple of OGGs I did were 
indistinguishable from thei MP3 couterparts, yet were smaller. I haven't 
played around with OGG encoding from a while, though.
Tim

On Tuesday 10 July 2001 10:54 pm, you wrote:
> Now that I have actually listened to an ogg file that I encoded from my cd,
> and gone back and read the FAQ on the Vorbis website, ogg files aren't
> quite audio superior to MP3files yet, because oggenc (the ogg encoder)
> isn't as far along as the actual ogg format. There is quite a bit of
> popping and crackling during the song in the ogg file.
>
> On Tuesday 10 July 2001 08:49 pm, Jerry McBride wrote:
> > On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 20:44:50 -0500
> >
> > Alan Bryant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I'm just curious as to wether or not anyone hear has had any experience
> > > with ogg audio files?
> >
> > Hey Alan...  What's the difference between ogg and mp3, besides the
> > formats?
>
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Re: OggVorbis

[Jerry McBride]

On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 21:54:09 -0500
Alan Bryant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Now that I have actually listened to an ogg file that I encoded from my cd, 
> and gone back and read the FAQ on the Vorbis website, ogg files aren't quite 
> audio superior to MP3files yet, because oggenc (the ogg encoder) isn't as far

> along as the actual ogg format. There is quite a bit of popping and crackling

> during the song in the ogg file.
> 

Yeah. That was my impression too... I've been to ogg a couple of minutes ago
and tested some stuff. I'm real excited. I hope they can pull this stuff off
like OGG claims. It'll be another hole in the dike that the riaa can try and
plug...

The way I see it, mp3 is real mature... It'll be hard to impove upon.

Thanks for the messages, Alan.


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Re: OggVorbis

[Alan Bryant]

Now that I have actually listened to an ogg file that I encoded from my cd, 
and gone back and read the FAQ on the Vorbis website, ogg files aren't quite 
audio superior to MP3files yet, because oggenc (the ogg encoder) isn't as far 
along as the actual ogg format. There is quite a bit of popping and crackling 
during the song in the ogg file.

On Tuesday 10 July 2001 08:49 pm, Jerry McBride wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 20:44:50 -0500
>
> Alan Bryant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm just curious as to wether or not anyone hear has had any experience
> > with ogg audio files?
>
> Hey Alan...  What's the difference between ogg and mp3, besides the
> formats?
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Re: Stupid newbie network question

[Tim Wunder]

On Tuesday 10 July 2001 12:08 pm, you wrote:
> Tim Wunder wrote:
> > Can I get a GUI login from my upstairs PC running Mandrake 8.0 to my
> > downstairs PC running Caldera eD2.4? I'd like to be able to login to my
> > desktop and run my KDE apps if my wife happens to be downstairs on the
> > main PC (and vice versa). I would think that this should be fairly
> > straght-forward, linux being built for networking and all. Is this what
> > VNC is for? I thought VNC was intended to be used when connecting to a
> > linux server from some other O/S (Win, Mac, etc).
> > Care to hit me with a clue stick?
> > Regards,
> > Tim
>
> Assuming hostnames or  and 
>
> 1. On  type:
> # xhost downstairs
>

Received error: xhost: unable to open display""

Do I need to exit X completely before executing this command? I just did 
Ctl-Alt-F1 to get a console login and tried it. 

> 2. Telnet to 'downstairs'
>
> 3. On 'downstairs' type
> # export DISPLAY=upstairs:0.0
>
> 4. Run your app at the command line as usual, the DISPLAY will be output
> over the network to your machine upstairs.
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Re: Sound problem

[Alan Bryant]

Nothing is muted either. I checked that, too.

On Tuesday 10 July 2001 09:40 pm, Tony Alfrey wrote:
> I think he's suggesting to check the mute button on each slider.
>
> On Tuesday 10 July 2001 07:33 pm, Alan Bryant wrote:
> > Sadly, this isn't it. =( I've turned EVERYTHING up as high as it
> > would go, still no good.
> >
> > On Tuesday 10 July 2001 03:09 pm, Collins Richey wrote:
> > > On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 18:23:45 -0500 Alan Bryant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> > > > Hey everyone, I have a sound problem...I'm running an almost
> > > > stock install of
> > > > SuSE Linux 7.1, except for KDE2, which I have KDE2.2beta1. I have
> > > > SB Live!
> > > > Platinum sound card which has worked perfectly on past installs
> > > > of every Linux distro that has been installed with it, but not
> > > > this time. The problem
> > > > is, KDE2 sounds work perfectly, I can listen to MP3s, but I can't
> > > > listen to
> > > > cds at all. the cds play, but no sound comes out.
> > >
> > > Frequently this is because the mixer controls default to no sound.
> > > Bring up a mixer app and toggle the settings.  If this isn't it, I
> > > don't have a clue.
> >
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Re: Stupid newbie network question

[Tim Wunder]

Matt, 
This worked flawlessly. Well, not quite flawlessly, I had trouble 
disconnecting from the server. I ended up switching to a console (ctl-alt-F1) 
and killing X and kdm. There's gotta be a better way to close the session 
than that.  I'll keep looking into it. 
Thanks, 
Tim

On Tuesday 10 July 2001 11:25 am, you wrote:
> VNC is like a Remotely Possible.  But it is unnecessary to do what you are
> trying to do
>
> X-Windows is by nature a networked windowing system.  This means that it
> can act like Terminal Services, allowing multiple sessions at the same time
> across the network, as opposed to sharing the only one (that shows up on
> the computer screen) like RP or pcAnywhere.
>
> Study the /etc/X11/kdm/Xaccess file.  You do NOT want a Chooser setup,
> because that (IIRC) just acts as a "Central Directory" for available X
> Servers to log into.
> I (on my protected home network) uncommented the line with a single "*" on
> it, meaning accept a GUI-login connection from anyone.  There are various
> ACL capabilities in this file you may want to consider.  Then, restart your
> X-Server on the server host.  (CTRL-ALT-BKPSC).
>
> On the machine you'd like to log in FROM, you want to be in Runlevel 3
> (CLI).  From the commandline, type something like:
>
> X -query 
>
> and it should bring up a GUI login screen.  There are many better accounts
> of this config, but I hope this serves as a decent overview.
>
>
>
>
> Tim Wunder
>  com>cc:
> Sent by:Subject: Stupid newbie
> network question linux-users-admi
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>
> 07/10/01 11:07
> AM
> Please respond
> to linux-users
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Can I get a GUI login from my upstairs PC running Mandrake 8.0 to my
> downstairs PC running Caldera eD2.4? I'd like to be able to login to my
> desktop and run my KDE apps if my wife happens to be downstairs on the
> main PC (and vice versa). I would think that this should be fairly
> straght-forward, linux being built for networking and all. Is this what
> VNC is for? I thought VNC was intended to be used when connecting to a
> linux server from some other O/S (Win, Mac, etc).
> Care to hit me with a clue stick?
> Regards,
> Tim
>
>
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Re: Sound problem

[Tony Alfrey]

I think he's suggesting to check the mute button on each slider.

On Tuesday 10 July 2001 07:33 pm, Alan Bryant wrote:
> Sadly, this isn't it. =( I've turned EVERYTHING up as high as it
> would go, still no good.
>
> On Tuesday 10 July 2001 03:09 pm, Collins Richey wrote:
> > On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 18:23:45 -0500 Alan Bryant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > > Hey everyone, I have a sound problem...I'm running an almost
> > > stock install of
> > > SuSE Linux 7.1, except for KDE2, which I have KDE2.2beta1. I have
> > > SB Live!
> > > Platinum sound card which has worked perfectly on past installs
> > > of every Linux distro that has been installed with it, but not
> > > this time. The problem
> > > is, KDE2 sounds work perfectly, I can listen to MP3s, but I can't
> > > listen to
> > > cds at all. the cds play, but no sound comes out.
> >
> > Frequently this is because the mixer controls default to no sound. 
> > Bring up a mixer app and toggle the settings.  If this isn't it, I
> > don't have a clue.
>
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Re: Sound problem

[Alan Bryant]

Sadly, this isn't it. =( I've turned EVERYTHING up as high as it would go, 
still no good.

On Tuesday 10 July 2001 03:09 pm, Collins Richey wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 18:23:45 -0500 Alan Bryant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hey everyone, I have a sound problem...I'm running an almost stock
> > install of
> > SuSE Linux 7.1, except for KDE2, which I have KDE2.2beta1. I have SB
> > Live!
> > Platinum sound card which has worked perfectly on past installs of every
> > Linux distro that has been installed with it, but not this time. The
> > problem
> > is, KDE2 sounds work perfectly, I can listen to MP3s, but I can't listen
> > to
> > cds at all. the cds play, but no sound comes out.
>
> Frequently this is because the mixer controls default to no sound.  Bring
> up a mixer app and toggle the settings.  If this isn't it, I don't have a
> clue.
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Re: KernelBuild 2.4.6

[Rick Sivernell]

On Tuesday 10 July 2001 14:26, you wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 10:14:48 -0500 Rick Sivernell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> > Collins
> >
> > Got compile with no error, no unresolves.
> >
> > On SxS you say modify menu.lst
> >
> > menu.lst now:
> > kernel = /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.6-modular vga=274 quiet root=/dev/hda1
> > #kernel = /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.2-modular vga=274 quiet root=/dev/hda1
> > initrd = /boot/initrd-2.4.6.gz
> > #initrd = /boot/initrd-2.4.2.gz
> >
> > were do I get the initrd-2.4.6.gz file or do I need to create it?
> > I did remove symlink to vmlinuz-2.4.2-modular & set it to vmlinuz-2.4.6,
> > is
> > this correct.
>
> Rick,
>
> I don't have a clue what you are referring to.  My kernel compile SxS
> makes no mention of initrd anything.  Can you point me to the SxS you are
> following.
>
> As to the latter, if your /boot has a symlink like vmlinuz --> vmlinuz...
> you can either remove it and point it to the new kernel, or you can change
> your lilo or grub to add a new entry that points to the new kernel name.
Collins

  You are correct it does not. It does say modify /boot//grub/menu.lst.
My menu.lst for 2.4.2:
#
# /boot/grub/menu.lst - generated by Lizard
#
 
 
# options
 
timeout = 5
splashscreen = (hd0,1)/boot/message.col24
 
default = 0
 
title  = Linux
root   = (hd0,1)
kernel = /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.2-modular vga=274 quiet root=/dev/hda1
initrd = /boot/initrd-2.4.2.gz

now menu.lst
#
# /boot/grub/menu.lst - generated by Lizard
#
 
 
# options
 
timeout = 5
splashscreen = (hd0,1)/boot/message.col24
 
default = 0
 
title  = Linux
root   = (hd0,1)
kernel = /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.6 vga=274 quiet root=/dev/hda1
#kernel = /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.2-modular vga=274 quiet root=/dev/hda1 commented 
out
initrd = /boot/initrd-2.4.6.gz
#initrd = /boot/initrd-2.4.2.gz  commented out

/boot dir:
[rick@RSivernell rick]$ ll /boot
total 2740
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   31 May 27 08:28 System.map-2.4.2 -> 
/usr/src/linux-2.4.2/System.map
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root1 May 27 08:30 boot -> .
-rw-r--r--   1 root root 4580 Mar 10 06:39 boot.b
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root root 4560 Mar 10 06:39 boot.b.orig
-rw-r--r--   1 root root  624 Mar 10 06:39 chain.b
drwxr-xr-x   3 root root 1024 Jul 10 14:12 grub
-rw-r--r--   1 root root   610883 May 27 08:30 initrd-2.4.2.gz added
-rw-r--r--   1 root root   376771 Jul 10 13:51 initrd-2.4.6.gz
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root12288 May 27 07:45 lost+found
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   13 May 27 08:09 message -> 
message.col24
-r--r--r--   1 root root43777 Mar 10 06:39 message.col24
-rw-r--r--   1 root root  632 Mar 10 06:39 os2_d.b
-r   1 root root21550 Mar  9 20:26 stage3.pcx
-rw-r--r--   1 root root  512 Mar 15  1999 virgin.mbr
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   13 Jul 10 10:07 vmlinuz -> 
vmlinuz-2.4.6
-rw-r--r--   1 root root   771816 Mar  9 23:16 vmlinuz-2.4.2-modular  
was  vmlinuz->vmlinuz-2.4.2-modular now below
-rw-r--r--   1 root root   933725 Jul 10 09:56 vmlinuz-2.4.6

my problem maybe in the modules to compile into the kernel.

Thanks

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Re: PGP stuff

[Collins Richey]

Douglas,

Just a matter of curiosity.  Not being a PGP user, there's probably
something basic I don't understand.

What good does all the PGP crap in your mails accomplish, other than
cluttering up every mail from you with stuff that we don't need to see?



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> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> 

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> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
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> Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org
> 
> iEYEARECAAYFAjtLeWgACgkQOPP+k4ZeTm1VJACeMV3GH5MSIEwRce+okqim0KJX
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Re: slack 8 and sb16

[Collins Richey]

On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 19:49:20 -0500 Eddie Arteaga
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm trying to get my sound working under Slackware 8. I'm using a SB16.
> 
> I was getting an IRQ conflict but have elimininated it. However, I get
> no 
> sound as I logon to KDE.
> 
> I opened xmms in a terminal window and then tried to play an mp3. This
> is the 
> error it generated:
> 
> ** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/dsp):
> Device or 
> resource busy
> 
> Thanks in advance for any help.
> 
 
Permissions?  chmod 666 /dev/dsp, if not already.

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Re: Sound problem

[Collins Richey]

On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 18:23:45 -0500 Alan Bryant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hey everyone, I have a sound problem...I'm running an almost stock
> install of 
> SuSE Linux 7.1, except for KDE2, which I have KDE2.2beta1. I have SB
> Live! 
> Platinum sound card which has worked perfectly on past installs of every
> Linux distro that has been installed with it, but not this time. The
> problem 
> is, KDE2 sounds work perfectly, I can listen to MP3s, but I can't listen
> to 
> cds at all. the cds play, but no sound comes out.
> 

Frequently this is because the mixer controls default to no sound.  Bring
up a mixer app and toggle the settings.  If this isn't it, I don't have a
clue.

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Re: OggVorbis

[Alan Bryant]

Well, according to the OggVorbis website (http://vorbis.com), the file size 
for the same bitrate is smaller in ogg format, and the audio quality is 
better than mp3. It's also open, non-patented format! =)

On Tuesday 10 July 2001 08:49 pm, Jerry McBride wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 20:44:50 -0500
>
> Alan Bryant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm just curious as to wether or not anyone hear has had any experience
> > with ogg audio files?
>
> Hey Alan...  What's the difference between ogg and mp3, besides the
> formats?
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Re: OggVorbis

[Jerry McBride]

On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 20:44:50 -0500
Alan Bryant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm just curious as to wether or not anyone hear has had any experience with 
> ogg audio files? 

Hey Alan...  What's the difference between ogg and mp3, besides the formats?



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OggVorbis

[Alan Bryant]

I'm just curious as to wether or not anyone hear has had any experience with 
ogg audio files? Have you ripped any cds into ogg format instead of mp3? If 
so, did you just use oggenc and cdparanoia or cdda2wav, or did you use a GUI 
frontend to those? IMHO, this would make a cool SxS if anyone has any 
experience with it. I know I'm interested.

Alan
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Re: Stupid newbie network question

[Andrew Mathews]

Ian Marchak wrote:
 
> Assuming hostnames or  and 
> 
> 1. On  type:
> # xhost downstairs
> 
> 2. Telnet to 'downstairs'
> 
> 3. On 'downstairs' type
> # export DISPLAY=upstairs:0.0
> 
> 4. Run your app at the command line as usual, the DISPLAY will be output
> over the network to your machine upstairs.
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Okay, now for the next level... Picture thisMachine A is
masqueraded behind Machine B. Machine D is also behind Machine C.
Or:
A--B-public internet-C--D
|___|

Now A & D are both class A ip addresses, 10.10.108.0 and 10.144.120.0.
Using ssh how can you export a display from A to D or vice versa?
export DISPLAY=65.121.54.118:65.121.54.119:10.144.120.51:0.0??
1st public ip__|| ||| || ||| 
2nd public ip|| ||| || |||  
2nd  local ip__|| ||| ||| ||
Since machine B & C are public they work easily. Or A to B, B to C or C
to D, and even A to C. But how can you specify an export three machines
back from one network to another? Is it so simple I've overlooked it? 
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Re: KernelBuild 2.4.6

[Collins Richey]

On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 10:14:48 -0500 Rick Sivernell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Collins
> 
> Got compile with no error, no unresolves.
> 
> On SxS you say modify menu.lst
> 
> menu.lst now:
> kernel = /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.6-modular vga=274 quiet root=/dev/hda1
> #kernel = /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.2-modular vga=274 quiet root=/dev/hda1
> initrd = /boot/initrd-2.4.6.gz
> #initrd = /boot/initrd-2.4.2.gz
> 
> were do I get the initrd-2.4.6.gz file or do I need to create it?
> I did remove symlink to vmlinuz-2.4.2-modular & set it to vmlinuz-2.4.6,
> is 
> this correct.

Rick,

I don't have a clue what you are referring to.  My kernel compile SxS
makes no mention of initrd anything.  Can you point me to the SxS you are
following.

As to the latter, if your /boot has a symlink like vmlinuz --> vmlinuz...
you can either remove it and point it to the new kernel, or you can change
your lilo or grub to add a new entry that points to the new kernel name.


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Re: kppp on valium

[Mike Andrew]

On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 12:27, you wrote:

> I gotta check this.  I have an /etc/rc.d/rc.serial  (no ~/init.d/~ )

[snip]

sorry. typo on my part, i meant /etc/rc.d


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Re: Compiling SRPMs and i386, versus i686

[Shawn Tayler]

On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 07:42:38 -0600, Myles Green wrote:

>as long as you haven't changed changed or added too much (library-wise)
>other's should be able to install them as well.

Not a thing so far...  its stock

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Re: Tarballs for KDE2.1.1 and OL 3.1

[Keith Antoine]

The rpms will be sybil specific, for as you know we couild not use other rpms on Sybil.

Shawn Tayler wrote:

> On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 20:28:56 +1000, Keith Antoine wrote:
>
> >You have to be in the system that you are compiling for.
>
> So then, I should be fine..  Will the rpms I finally get done here
> be usable by anyone else?  Or is there a special way to make generic
> rpms?  I do have the tarball sources for everything except qt, which I
> am sure I can get.
>
> stayler
>
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slack 8 and sb16

[Eddie Arteaga]

I'm trying to get my sound working under Slackware 8. I'm using a SB16.

I was getting an IRQ conflict but have elimininated it. However, I get no 
sound as I logon to KDE.

I opened xmms in a terminal window and then tried to play an mp3. This is the 
error it generated:

** WARNING **: oss_open(): Failed to open audio device (/dev/dsp): Device or 
resource busy

Thanks in advance for any help.

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Sound problem

[Alan Bryant]

Hey everyone, I have a sound problem...I'm running an almost stock install of 
SuSE Linux 7.1, except for KDE2, which I have KDE2.2beta1. I have SB Live! 
Platinum sound card which has worked perfectly on past installs of every 
Linux distro that has been installed with it, but not this time. The problem 
is, KDE2 sounds work perfectly, I can listen to MP3s, but I can't listen to 
cds at all. the cds play, but no sound comes out.

Thanks,
Alan

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Re: C Shell Ref [Was: Re: Stupid newbie network question]

[rickf]

Kurt Wall wrote:
> 
> Susan Macchia wrote:
> 
> % in C-shell:
> % $ setenv DISPLAY :0
> 
> Speaking o' C shell, can you recommend a good tutorial reference
> for C shell? I've been a ksh kind of guy since I got started with
> Unix, so it's time I branched out.

Using csh & tcsh
Paul DuBois
O'Reilly & Associates



best
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Re: Compiling SRPMs and i386, versus i686

[Kurt Wall]

Net Llama corrected my CRS, noting:
% 
% That's a beautiful nugget of info.  However, on the RH based systems
% that i'm using at the moment all the files in /var/lib/rpm end in .rpm,
% and are binaries.  Mine was in /usr/lib/rpm.

Varies from distro to distro, and the FHS has changed things, too.
You can also twiddle/create /etc/rpmrc or $HOME/.rpmrc to get the
same effect. /{us,va}r/lib/rpm/rpmrc modifies RPM's behavior at the
global level. $HOME/.rpmrc modifies it on a per user basis.

Kurt
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C Shell Ref [Was: Re: Stupid newbie network question]

[Kurt Wall]

Susan Macchia wrote:

% in C-shell:
% $ setenv DISPLAY :0

Speaking o' C shell, can you recommend a good tutorial reference
for C shell? I've been a ksh kind of guy since I got started with
Unix, so it's time I branched out.

Thanks,

Kurt
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Re: Stupid newbie network question

[Joel Hammer]

It might be as easy as:
X -query name_or_ip_of_hostmachine

This is better done after you exit from X on the client machine.
If you get error messsages, post them. The X server must be running on the
hostmachine. Just start kde or whatever on the host machine. There will
likely be some permissions problems, but they are easy to solve.
Joel

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Fwd: UNIX TIP: DATE CHANGE SEPT 9TH

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Re: mounting iso image

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> isobuster?
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I doubt it. they wouldn't be valid fs types probably

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Re: ssh2 issues

[Net Llama]

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have a wierd one.  eD2.4, ssh2 connecting to a Solaris 5.7 box. 
> When I
> use text-console 1, ssh2 connects fine to the Solaris box.  From
> within
> KDE2, however, it hangs after password verification...
> 
> any ideas?

Run ssh with the -v switch to see what's going on.  Could be some weird
reverse lookup problem.  Does your IP address properly resolve on the
Solaris box?


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Re: 2.4.6 Kernel Build

[Bruce Marshall]

On Tuesday 10 July 2001 16:56, Rick Sivernell wrote:
> List
>
> Followed SxS , Collins for sybil to upgrade 2.4.3. All went as purposed,
> till reboot. Linux kernel loaded but would not run. Guess it might be
> mkinitrd.sh build initrd2.4.6.tz. or vmlinuz2.4.6. I still have 
> vmlinuz-2.4.2-modular in /boot dir Canboot with recue floppy
>
> Any Ideas here.
>
> Thanks

What error (if any) did you get?

And what did you change in the way of modules that should go into initrd?  
And did you configure to allow an initrd ram?

For instance, yest I recompiled but missed the initrd option...   On boot it 
couldn't mount my reiserfs partition because reiserfs was a module and 
although it was sitting in initrd, initrd wasn't being used.   


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ssh2 issues

[Matt . Carpenter]

I have a wierd one.  eD2.4, ssh2 connecting to a Solaris 5.7 box.  When I
use text-console 1, ssh2 connects fine to the Solaris box.  From within
KDE2, however, it hangs after password verification...

any ideas?

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2.4.6 Kernel Build

[Rick Sivernell]

List

Followed SxS , Collins for sybil to upgrade 2.4.3. All went as purposed, till 
reboot. Linux kernel loaded but would not run. Guess it might be mkinitrd.sh 
build initrd2.4.6.tz. or vmlinuz2.4.6. I still have  vmlinuz-2.4.2-modular in 
/boot dir Canboot with recue floppy

Any Ideas here.

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Re: Suse vs Mandrake decision

[rplummer]

Comment on Mandrake 8.0

I downloaded the ISO for both the install and the extended stuff. The 
install went great, but then I have a pretty plain vanilla machine to 
install it on.  However, I was disappointed in the KDE that was 
installed. I didn't see the familiar KDE panel, menu and etc. While 
browsing through the menus it seemed very Gnome centric even in 
KDE. Couldn't find the usual KDE configuration screens etc. Also 
Mandrake used to put the icons on the desktop for the CD Floppy disk 
and Printer. All that came up was the Trash and Home icons. However, 
Gnome desktop was fully configured. One wonders if Mandrake is 
pushing Gnome by limiting KDE. 

Also for some reason after I had it running for about an hour, it started 
writing to my hard drive and locked up the mouse and keyboard this 
continued for several minutes and did not let up. I finally had to just 
shut the thing down (power off). 

The one other annoying thing was that it configured my video so that 
the visable screen on my 17" monitor was located in the lower right 
quadrant of the monitor. It had about an inch on the top and left side of 
black space. Again, couldn't find anyway to adjust that through the 
KDE menus. As I use the same monitor for 4 machines, I did not want 
to adjust the monitor controls on the monitor as all the others place the 
screen in the center of the monitor. 

Just my .02 cents.

Will dL SUSE and give it a try.

Ray

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Re: Suse vs Mandrake decision

[Matt . Carpenter]

Even if you don't choose SuSE, MAKE SURE YOU TRY IT!  It is a different
feel, but it's nice!  That and the fact that the 7 CD's for Professional
have a huge amount of CATALOGUED software...  What do I mean by this?  Do
you remember the "Specify Selection" option W3.1 and LTP gave you when
installing, allowing you to choose the apps to install?  Well, imagine
something like that which allows un-/installing entire software selections
(notifying and/or automagically installing dependent packages).  We're
talking INTELLIGENCE programmed in!

Other than that, it has a nice look and feel, like it was polished a bit.



On Saturday 07 July 2001 08:45 pm, you wrote:
> Thanks to the folks who offered their opinions of
> Mandrake vs. Suse.  A couple of questions for those
> who have tried Mandrake 8.0:
>
>   1. Does the "standard" Mandrake 8.0 include all the
> usual stuff (Sever tools such as Samba, MySQL, etc..
> and development tools, etc...), or are these available
> only in the "power pack" advertised on the Mandrake
> website?  I wasn't able to clarify that myself on
> their website (the "comparison" page was broken).  I'm
> wondering if there's really any extra value for me in
> the power pack.
>
>   2.  Is the web-browser ready-to-go (with all
> plug-ins, etc... already working)?
>
>   3.  Have others experienced the same "ugly font"
> problem and problems loading Star Office that Geoff
> has cited?
>
> Has anyone out there had any problems with installing
> Suse and getting things to work properly?
>
> Again, any further comments from anyone concerning
> either of the new Mandrake or Suse distributions are
> welcome.


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Re: Compiling SRPMs and i386, versus i686

[Net Llama]

--- Kurt Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Shawn Tayler offered this little gem:
> % get an optimazation of the compiled code to  better utilize my
> P3-500? 
> % Would it behove me to do a Kernel compile of my own first then do
> these
> % other compiles?
>  
> Yes. Find /var/lib/rpm/rpmrc (or some such).  Change the default
> buildarch to i686. Another way to help is to locate the the options
> in that same file that pass options to GCC and add one or both of
> "-march=686 -mcpu=686" to the options line (which currently reads
> something like "-O2 ".

That's a beautiful nugget of info.  However, on the RH based systems
that i'm using at the moment all the files in /var/lib/rpm end in .rpm,
and are binaries.  Mine was in /usr/lib/rpm.

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Re: quanta compile troubles

[Bill Day]

hehe, forgot to mention we did that a few months ago as well.. so Jim 
reminded me that it may be a little out of date... but worth a shot anyhow..

No what you mean, I have a couple k6 2's, a k6, PRO200 nad a pentium 166.. in 
dire need of mobo. and proc. upgrades...

"Send donations at will..."

Later,

On Monday 09 July 2001 23:00, you wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 22:44:54 -0500
>
> Bill Day <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Friday 06 July 2001 21:38, you wrote:
> > > I just rsync'd quanta from hunley.homeip.net and tried to build it
> >
> > but
> >
> > > no matter what I do the make craps out as follows:
> >
> > 
> >
> > That looks like the same errors Jim & I ran into when putting Quanta 2
> > onto
> > kde 2.1.1
> >
> > This is how Jim fixed it up:
> >
> > SxS for a CVS compile for Quanta2 pr2
> > on KDE2.1.1 and COL eD2.4
> >
> > 1: Make a new directory to download the CVS code to. 'cd ..." to that
> > directory.
> >  2: from a console or terminal,
> > $>cvs-d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/kde login
> >  3: password$> JUST HIT ENTER
> >  4: $>cvs -z3 -d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/kde co quanta
> >  5: You will notice it get all of the code and place it in the
> > directory that
> > you created.
> >  6: $>make -f Makefile.cvs
> >  7: $>./configure --prefix=/opt/kde2
> >  8: $>make
> >  9: $>make install
> >  *: You may have to create an Icon for it in kde menu if you so
> > desire. The
> > binary file is in /opt/kde2/bin/quanta. There should be an Icon
> > somewhere in
> > /opt/kde2/share/icons/* for it as well
> >
> > HTH,
>
> Thanks Bill =) I'll give those a try.
>
> I *may* have solved my problem by... uhn.. *cough* cleaning my cpu fan
> and heatsink? Yup, it seems too much crapola coupled with 30 deg C
> (that's 85+ F) heat makes the old amd k6-2 cranky. Imagine that! 

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Re: Stupid newbie network question

[Ian Marchak]

Tim Wunder wrote:
> 
> Can I get a GUI login from my upstairs PC running Mandrake 8.0 to my
> downstairs PC running Caldera eD2.4? I'd like to be able to login to my
> desktop and run my KDE apps if my wife happens to be downstairs on the
> main PC (and vice versa). I would think that this should be fairly
> straght-forward, linux being built for networking and all. Is this what
> VNC is for? I thought VNC was intended to be used when connecting to a
> linux server from some other O/S (Win, Mac, etc).
> Care to hit me with a clue stick?
> Regards,
> Tim

Assuming hostnames or  and 

1. On  type:
# xhost downstairs

2. Telnet to 'downstairs'

3. On 'downstairs' type
# export DISPLAY=upstairs:0.0

4. Run your app at the command line as usual, the DISPLAY will be output
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Re: KernelBuild 2.4.6

[Glenn Williams]

Hi, Rick:

Could this be a problem processing stage 1 (or beyond) of GRUB?

Regards,

Glenn

On Tuesday 10 July 2001 08:28 am, you wrote:
> On Tuesday 10 July 2001 08:26, you wrote:
> > Collins
> >
> > 2 Quick questions,
> >
> > 1.
> > I have followed you SxS for 2.4.3 Kernel build except I am
> > building 2.4.6.  When I issue the following:
> > make dep && make clean && make bzImage &&
> > make modules && make modules_install
> >
> > a complete compile to objects is performed, but it appears we are
> > linking to a wrong library here, there are a lot of the depmod: ***
> > Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules//old-2.4.2/ listings. I
> > beleive there was a thread about a month or so back about headers
> > for kernels. Could this be my problem here?
> >
> > depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
> > /lib/modules//old-2.4.2/pcmcia/ide_cs.o depmod:
> > ide_unregister
> > depmod: ide_register
> >
> > Directory containing the source:
> > /projects/src/linux2.4.6off of the root / & I am in root
> >
> >
> > 2.
> >
> >Just Installed the e-Workstation 3.1 to a new system. Installed
> > as per ed 2.4 great. Setup system thru Control Panel great Printing
> > Samba telnet all are great. Now reboot system as to come back up on
> > line as normal system. I get the following error message
> >
> > stage 1 Hard Disk Error
> >
> > Any one have a clue. This drive did start with e-server 3.1 beta
> > install ok. Then install new 3.1 release.
> >
> > Thanks
>
> List
> please ignore #1  fixed
>
> Thanks

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Re: Redhat Tux 2.0 blows away all other webservers

[Glenn Williams]

The font still looks like that on an xt console here.

Regards,

Glenn

On Monday 09 July 2001 10:28 pm, you wrote:
> Ronnie Gauthier wrote:
> > Burns,
> >
> > Subject: Redhat Tux 2.0 blows away all other webservers
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >
> > the above is cut from your original header, note the charset.
>
> Thanks folks. How's this?
>
> Damn Netscape piece of crap.

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Re: Stupid newbie network question

[Susan Macchia]

You can run you KDE apps from your downstairs PC fairly easily w/o
having to use a GUI login.  If you are networked, simply telnet to your
downstairs PC in an xterm.  Once logged in, set your display to your
upstairs PC:

in C-shell:
$ setenv DISPLAY :0

Now you can run any app from that term and display it on your upstairs
machine.

Hope this helps.

> Can I get a GUI login from my upstairs PC running Mandrake 8.0 to my
> downstairs PC running Caldera eD2.4? I'd like to be able to login to
my
> desktop and run my KDE apps if my wife happens to be downstairs on
the
> main PC (and vice versa). I would think that this should be fairly
> straght-forward, linux being built for networking and all. Is this
what
> VNC is for? I thought VNC was intended to be used when connecting to
a
> linux server from some other O/S (Win, Mac, etc).
> Care to hit me with a clue stick?
> Regards,
> Tim


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Re: kppp on valium

[Glenn Williams]

What?  And lose our amaeur status?

On Monday 09 July 2001 09:22 pm, Andrew Mathews wrote:
> Tony Alfrey wrote:
> 
>
> > How much better could a users list possibly be??
> > --
> > Tony Alfrey
>
> Rich and handsome?

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Re: Can't read floppy disk

[Glenn Williams]

Hi, Group:

Many thanks to all who responded to the many e-mails on this subject.

The problem is with that particular floppy disk.  The SuSE install 
program offers to create a boot floppy and also to write the LILO 
information to the same disk.  The disk was somehow corrupted and had 
no identifiable file system(s) on it.

I made another boot floppy and the system mounted and read it without 
difficulty.

Sheesh!

Best regards,

Glenn


On Monday 09 July 2001 06:57 pm, you wrote:
> Ok so try this then:
>
> mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
>
> stayler
>
> On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 16:18:43 -0600, Glenn Williams wrote:
> > mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
> >
> >and it produced the following error message:
> >
> > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/fd0,
> >   or too many mounted file systems
> >
> >I tried it as su also, although that should not have been necessary.
> >
> >Thanks for the suggestion
>
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Re: Stupid newbie network question

[Matt . Carpenter]

VNC is like a Remotely Possible.  But it is unnecessary to do what you are
trying to do

X-Windows is by nature a networked windowing system.  This means that it
can act like Terminal Services, allowing multiple sessions at the same time
across the network, as opposed to sharing the only one (that shows up on
the computer screen) like RP or pcAnywhere.

Study the /etc/X11/kdm/Xaccess file.  You do NOT want a Chooser setup,
because that (IIRC) just acts as a "Central Directory" for available X
Servers to log into.
I (on my protected home network) uncommented the line with a single "*" on
it, meaning accept a GUI-login connection from anyone.  There are various
ACL capabilities in this file you may want to consider.  Then, restart your
X-Server on the server host.  (CTRL-ALT-BKPSC).

On the machine you'd like to log in FROM, you want to be in Runlevel 3
(CLI).  From the commandline, type something like:

X -query 

and it should bring up a GUI login screen.  There are many better accounts
of this config, but I hope this serves as a decent overview.



   

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Can I get a GUI login from my upstairs PC running Mandrake 8.0 to my
downstairs PC running Caldera eD2.4? I'd like to be able to login to my
desktop and run my KDE apps if my wife happens to be downstairs on the
main PC (and vice versa). I would think that this should be fairly
straght-forward, linux being built for networking and all. Is this what
VNC is for? I thought VNC was intended to be used when connecting to a
linux server from some other O/S (Win, Mac, etc).
Care to hit me with a clue stick?
Regards,
Tim



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Re: Compiling SRPMs and i386, versus i686

[Kurt Wall]

Shawn Tayler offered this little gem:
% Ok,
% 
% Here is todays really stupid question, I am quite sure.

No question is too stupid to ask. Some questions are, however,
to stupid to answer.  This is not one of of them.
 
% I was starting to compile the KDE2.1.1 src rpms on my newly installed
% OL 3.1 system.  I noticed that the compiled RPMs end up in the i386
% directory under src etc  Is this because my Kernel is a stock
% precompiled one?  Or are things just done that way?  Is there a way to

No, it has little to do with your kernel. Rather, it is more about
RPM's default build options.

% get an optimazation of the compiled code to  better utilize my P3-500? 
% Would it behove me to do a Kernel compile of my own first then do these
% other compiles?
 
Yes. Find /var/lib/rpm/rpmrc (or some such).  Change the default
buildarch to i686. Another way to help is to locate the the options
in that same file that pass options to GCC and add one or both of
"-march=686 -mcpu=686" to the options line (which currently reads
something like "-O2 ".

% Just looking for a little wisdom from the list

I've got a wisdom tooth you can have, if you think it will help...

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Re: Modem Line Speeds, was Re: kppp on valium

[Tony Alfrey]

On Tuesday 10 July 2001 04:25 am, Mike Andrew wrote:
> On Tuesday 10 July 2001 12:06, Tony Alfrey wrote:
> > We are in a surprisingly rural area near a not-so-rural area
> > (coastal mountains near sillycone valley) with notoriously bad
> > phone lines.
>
> You talking about Spanish Town or Lindamar/Pacifica?

How does someone who lives out in the middle of the friggin' ocean know 
about San Mateo county??   (it's a small world)  We're on top of the 
ridge that runs down the center of the penninsula;  Pacifica is on the 
west side and north of us by 10 miles.

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Re: KernelBuild 2.4.6

[Rick Sivernell]

Collins

Got compile with no error, no unresolves.

On SxS you say modify menu.lst

menu.lst now:
kernel = /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.6-modular vga=274 quiet root=/dev/hda1
#kernel = /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.2-modular vga=274 quiet root=/dev/hda1
initrd = /boot/initrd-2.4.6.gz
#initrd = /boot/initrd-2.4.2.gz

were do I get the initrd-2.4.6.gz file or do I need to create it?
I did remove symlink to vmlinuz-2.4.2-modular & set it to vmlinuz-2.4.6, is 
this correct.

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Re: linux swap priority

[Kurt Wall]

Auyeung at Technet Systems offered this little gem:
% Sorry to interrupt,
% 
% Does the newer kernels still have the 127M limit on swap partition
% size?

Not since late in the 2.1 series.

Kurt
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Re: kppp on valium

[Tony Alfrey]

On Monday 09 July 2001 10:19 pm, Ronnie Gauthier wrote:
> Yes, reversed polarity can cause weird stuff sometimes. Even worse
> when added with noise caused by hasty remodeling/running lines with
> poorly done connections or taps.
>

I will check.  I'll go dust off the DVM and go out to the box on the 
wall.  I might have to ask Keith how to use the thing ;-)

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Re: Modem Line Speeds

[Tony Alfrey]

On Monday 09 July 2001 09:45 pm, Net Llama wrote:
> --- Tony Alfrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >
> > Along Skyline, halfway between Palo Alto and Half Moon Bay.
> > I think the phone lines are actually better in HMB 
> > When you look out the window from VALinux towards the west (well,
> > northwest from Fremont), and see all of that fog socked in on the
> > top of the ridge, that where we are.
>
> Actually, we had quite a bit of fog in Fremont this morning.  I don't
> care, i'd take the crappy phone lines if i could afford to live in
> the West bay.

I think that 'parts' of the west bay may not be too out of line, but 
they're less convenient.  HMB and Pacifica are certainly cheaper than 
Palo Alto, and I think there are a lot of people who write code in HMB. 
There are parts of SF that are not totally crazy, but you'll need to 
take out better life insurance, and the commute to Fremont is not 
pleasant (I have a client in Fremont and I don't even try to go over 
there before 10:00 AM and it still takes an hour). Neither is the 
commute from HMB (I used to commute from HMB to Mountain View about 10 
years ago when the traffic was acceptable and it still took over 45 
minutes).  A house up on Skyline is perhaps about 50% - 60% of what it 
would be down the hill.  And just because we're up here doesn't mean we 
can afford it ;-)


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Stupid newbie network question

[Tim Wunder]

Can I get a GUI login from my upstairs PC running Mandrake 8.0 to my
downstairs PC running Caldera eD2.4? I'd like to be able to login to my
desktop and run my KDE apps if my wife happens to be downstairs on the
main PC (and vice versa). I would think that this should be fairly
straght-forward, linux being built for networking and all. Is this what
VNC is for? I thought VNC was intended to be used when connecting to a
linux server from some other O/S (Win, Mac, etc).
Care to hit me with a clue stick?
Regards,
Tim



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Re: KernelBuild 2.4.6

[Bruce Marshall]

Rick:

1) Please stop cross posting...

2) I don't know whether this has anything to do with your 2.4.6 problem but I 
just spent 3 days trying to get it to compile.  It is very sensitive to the 
options you choose and it can get unresolved refs very easily.  I must have 
compiled at least 20 times and I finally re-downloaded everything and started 
from scratch.   That was a charmer.  And I don't even know what I changed 
that fixed it.




On Tuesday 10 July 2001 09:26, Rick Sivernell wrote:
> Collins
>
> 2 Quick questions,
>
> 1.
> I have followed you SxS for 2.4.3 Kernel build except I am
> building 2.4.6.  When I issue the following:
> make dep && make clean && make bzImage &&
> make modules && make modules_install
>
> a complete compile to objects is performed, but it appears we are linking
> to a wrong library here, there are a lot of the depmod: *** Unresolved
> symbols in /lib/modules//old-2.4.2/ listings. I beleive there was a
> thread about a month or so back about headers for kernels. Could this be my
> problem here?
>
> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules//old-2.4.2/pcmcia/ide_cs.o
> depmod: ide_unregister
> depmod: ide_register
>
> Directory containing the source:
> /projects/src/linux2.4.6off of the root / & I am in root
>
>
> 2.
>
>Just Installed the e-Workstation 3.1 to a new system. Installed as per
> ed 2.4 great. Setup system thru Control Panel great Printing Samba telnet
> all are great. Now reboot system as to come back up on line as normal
> system. I get the following error message
>
> stage 1 Hard Disk Error
>
> Any one have a clue. This drive did start with e-server 3.1 beta install
> ok. Then install new 3.1 release.
>
> Thanks

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Re: KernelBuild 2.4.6

[Rick Sivernell]

On Tuesday 10 July 2001 08:26, you wrote:
> Collins
>
> 2 Quick questions,
>
> 1.
> I have followed you SxS for 2.4.3 Kernel build except I am
> building 2.4.6.  When I issue the following:
> make dep && make clean && make bzImage &&
> make modules && make modules_install
>
> a complete compile to objects is performed, but it appears we are linking
> to a wrong library here, there are a lot of the depmod: *** Unresolved
> symbols in /lib/modules//old-2.4.2/ listings. I beleive there was a
> thread about a month or so back about headers for kernels. Could this be my
> problem here?
>
> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules//old-2.4.2/pcmcia/ide_cs.o
> depmod: ide_unregister
> depmod: ide_register
>
> Directory containing the source:
> /projects/src/linux2.4.6off of the root / & I am in root
>
>
> 2.
>
>Just Installed the e-Workstation 3.1 to a new system. Installed as per
> ed 2.4 great. Setup system thru Control Panel great Printing Samba telnet
> all are great. Now reboot system as to come back up on line as normal
> system. I get the following error message
>
> stage 1 Hard Disk Error
>
> Any one have a clue. This drive did start with e-server 3.1 beta install
> ok. Then install new 3.1 release.
>
> Thanks
List
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Re: Compiling SRPMs and i386, versus i686

[Matt . Carpenter]

rpm on eServer 2.3 doesn't have the target option.  It is -buildarch or
something like that.


   

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On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 00:15:14 -0700, Vern W Heesch wrote:

>It's been a while, but if I remember correctly rpm --rebuild --target=i686

>should work.
>
>Vern

Thanks Vern,

The man pages on rpm didn't show a --target option, but I will give it
a try.

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Re: Compiling SRPMs and i386, versus i686

[Myles Green]

On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 06:29:05 -0700 (PST)
"Shawn Tayler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 07:21:48 -0600, Myles Green wrote:
> 
> >
> >please note: it's been a very long time since I've worked with RPMS
> so,
> >be warned, YMMV and RTFM just to be sure =)
> 
> Thanks Myles
> 
> I'll let these build as they are.  I fiddle later with the
> optimazation

sure, build a few like that to get comfortable with rpm before trying to
get fancy - gotta learn to crawl before walking and all that ;)

> stuff.  I figure that since this is a stock OL 3.1 install, maybe
> these
> rpms would be useful to other who want to upgrade to 2.1.1  I hope so
> at least.

as long as you haven't changed changed or added too much (library-wise)
other's should be able to install them as well.
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Re: Compiling SRPMs and i386, versus i686

[Shawn Tayler]

On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 06:29:05 -0700 (PST), Shawn Tayler wrote:

>
>I'll let these build as they are.  I fiddle later with the optimazation

I need an apple.  I can't type to save my life this morning

sheesh...

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Re: Tarballs for KDE2.1.1 and OL 3.1

[Shawn Tayler]

On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 20:08:56 +1000, Keith Antoine wrote:

>Yes you need the latest QT, but you might wait to se if i can find them for you. Also 
>if not I
>can redo them as I have a far faster beast than you do.
>Athlon 1.2gig 384mb ram

Thanks Keith,

Well the qt, base, i18n are done, libs is being chewed on now.  I don't
have a website to post on but I'll be happy to upload or email (I don't
think they'd fit in some of the buffers for email though) the rpms when
done to someone who would like to post them for the group.

stayler


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Re: Compiling SRPMs and i386, versus i686

[Shawn Tayler]

On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 07:21:48 -0600, Myles Green wrote:

>
>please note: it's been a very long time since I've worked with RPMS so,
>be warned, YMMV and RTFM just to be sure =)

Thanks Myles

I'll let these build as they are.  I fiddle later with the optimazation
stuff.  I figure that since this is a stock OL 3.1 install, maybe these
rpms would be useful to other who want to upgrade to 2.1.1  I hope so
at least.

stayler

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Re: Compiling SRPMs and i386, versus i686

[Myles Green]

On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 06:06:39 -0700 (PST)
"Shawn Tayler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 00:15:14 -0700, Vern W Heesch wrote:
> 
> >It's been a while, but if I remember correctly rpm --rebuild
> --target=i686 
> >should work.
> >
> >Vern
> 
> Thanks Vern,
> 
> The man pages on rpm didn't show a --target option, but I will give it
> a try.  

IIRC the --target option only works when you've installed the srpm via
rpm -ivh .srpm, which will place the actual source files
(plus any patches) under /usr/src/OpenLinux/SOURCES/ and a .spec
under /usr/src/OpenLinux/SPECS.

To use the --target option cd to the directory containing the .spec
file(s) and then as root issue:

rpm -bb --target=ix86 .spec

you might want to first look in the RPMS directory first to make sure
that the target exists, if not create it and carry on.

please note: it's been a very long time since I've worked with RPMS so,
be warned, YMMV and RTFM just to be sure =)

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Re: Tarballs for KDE2.1.1 and OL 3.1

[Shawn Tayler]

On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 20:28:56 +1000, Keith Antoine wrote:

>You have to be in the system that you are compiling for.

So then, I should be fine..  Will the rpms I finally get done here
be usable by anyone else?  Or is there a special way to make generic
rpms?  I do have the tarball sources for everything except qt, which I
am sure I can get.

stayler

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Re: Compiling SRPMs and i386, versus i686

[Shawn Tayler]

On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 00:15:14 -0700, Vern W Heesch wrote:

>It's been a while, but if I remember correctly rpm --rebuild --target=i686 
>
>should work.
>
>Vern

Thanks Vern,

The man pages on rpm didn't show a --target option, but I will give it
a try.  

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Re: Can't read floppy disk

[Glenn Williams]

Hi, Mike:

Before I screw around with this SuSE 7.2 boot disk (which is currently 
my only means to boot the system) I will need to go into YaST2 and make 
another boot disk.

(Does anyone else get the feeling that someone at SuSE has had problems 
with their  or  keys?)

According to fdisk, there are several partitions with different file 
types, among which are both Unix and Linux.

Thanks for the info.  Also, thanks to others for their suggestions.

Regards,

Glenn

On Monday 09 July 2001 05:06 pm, you wrote:
> On Tuesday 10 July 2001 05:41, Tom Wilson wrote:
> > Glenn Williams wrote:
> > > Hi, Michael:
> > >
> > > No, the mount point is actually /media/floppy (see the fstab
> > > entry below in my original message).  I could edit the fstab and
> > > change it to
>
> [snip]
>
> 'auto' will only work if the module for the detected file system is
> already loaded. eg vfat, ntfs, whatever. (Bare in mind this statement
> like all thingz Linux, changes within one week)
>
> Seems like you have a catch 22 where you don't know the fs to use in
> order to load the module .
>
> use fsck  or fdisk to 'discover' what this floppy
> actually is.
>
> PS: I didn't understand your reference to read only.

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Re: General question regarding formatting floppies...

[Glenn Williams]

Roger, Dodger

The /u switch for unconditional format was added with MS-DOS 5.0

Regards

Glenn

On Monday 09 July 2001 09:48 pm, you wrote:
> FYI. DOS 6.22 (and 5.0?) also got un-conditional format
> if I remember corretly.
> I think /u was added after DOS 4 when unformat become available.
>
> > Furthermore, I mistakenly stated that DOS 7.0 will not accept
> > "format a:/u" whereas I just proved to myself that it will.  
> > However, DOS 6.22 will not.
>
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Re: Redhat Tux 2.0 blows away all other webservers

[Bruce Marshall]

On Tuesday 10 July 2001 00:28, burns wrote:
> Ronnie Gauthier wrote:
> > Burns,
> >
> > Subject: Redhat Tux 2.0 blows away all other webservers
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >
> > the above is cut from your original header, note the charset.
>
> Thanks folks. How's this?
>
> Damn Netscape piece of crap.

Nope   still the same.

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RE: Redhat Tux 2.0 blows away all other webservers

[Shawn Church]

Sorry, still Japanese.  Here's the full detail:


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Ronnie Gauthier wrote:

> Burns,
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>
> the above is cut from your original header, note the charset.
>

Thanks folks. How's this?

Damn Netscape piece of crap.

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Re: Modem Line Speeds, was Re: kppp on valium

[Mike Andrew]

On Tuesday 10 July 2001 12:06, Tony Alfrey wrote:

> We are in a surprisingly rural area near a not-so-rural area (coastal
> mountains near sillycone valley) with notoriously bad phone lines.

You talking about Spanish Town or Lindamar/Pacifica?

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Re: Linux version nomenclature

[Mike Andrew]

On Tuesday 10 July 2001 10:18, Glenn Williams wrote:

> I can't find or remember the command to produce the version
> nomenclature in use on the booted system.

You're possibly thinking of uname -r and -v, but this won't help you because 
the 'naming conventions' used by distros are alll different and miraculous to 
behold. 


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Re: adding BIND back to eW3.1

[Collins Richey]

On Mon, 09 Jul 2001 21:02:35 +0800 "MW Chang (linuxism)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Never mind, I found the BIND rpm from Openlinux 3.1's directory
> in Caldera ftp server.
> 
> Linuxism Chang wrote:
> > 
> >  From which site did you get the rpm? caldera? bind9?
> > Don't wanna use the gui tool. thx
> > 
> > > I have tried both methods: RPM through the Kpackage / download
> BIND9.

I've see reports from djbdns users on the Caldera list in the past.  I've
only used it for a local caching dns, since I don't run servers.  Now
would be a good time to have an SxS report from those of you who are
really using djbdns for your DNS servers.



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Re: Is there a SAMBA doctor in the house???

[Jerry McBride]

On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 13:26:54 -0400
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> 
> Kruiser is one of the better ones for KDE1.x. 

---snip---

I agree! KRUISER is a real nice piece of work. Only three minor nits bother me
though...

1 - Try as I may, I have not found a way to compile the damn thing from source.
Version 0.40 is the most recent and I can't get it to detect libkimgio.so to
save my life. The author knows about the problem, even offers a fix for it...
but it's a no go.

I did find an RPM of 0.40 that I could twist into installing on eDesktop
2.40... :')

2 - Like all the previous versions, the bitmaps on the toolbar buttons are all
screwed up. I though this was fixed? ;')

3 - one very glaring bug can be found in the preferences, under SMB. Be CERTAIN
you select the correct samba version on that dialog, so kruiser can interface
with smbmount that resides on the client. Running SAMBA 2.2.0a here and
selecting anything other than 2.06 will cause KDE to lockup dead. It's not a
software crash, it's smbmount trying to process an incorrect call from kruiser.
if you called kruiser from the desktop via a link... KDE will be locked into a
totally dead state... Becareful. Why kruiser can't query smbmount to detect the
version level is... stupid.

That said, KRUISER 0.40 is the ticket if you need a nice looking samba shares
browser to keep your ex-windows users relatively happy.

Thank you, for the reminder Matt. 

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Re: Test

[Keith Antoine]

NO!!

Tim Wunder wrote:

> Testing 1,2,3.
> Is there anybody out there?
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Re: Tarballs for KDE2.1.1 and OL 3.1

[Keith Antoine]

You have to be in the system that you are compiling for.

Shawn Tayler wrote:

> So if I am reading this right.  The src RPMs will be built against my
> existing system?  Won't this cause dependency errors when I go to use
> the compiled RPM's, or am I missing something
>
> stayler
>
> On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 01:47:04 -0500, Jim Conner wrote:
>
> >About 3 months ago when we were evaluating Sybil, there were some rpms for
> >KDE 2.1.1 that were made.  I don't have them.  You can build them yourself if
> >you want.  Just grab all the source rpms for eD2.4/kde 2.1.1 and do a rpm
> >--rebuild .src.rpm.  This will put the rpms in
> >/usr/src/Openlinux/RPMS/i386/* and you just do a rpm -Uvh --replacefiles
> >*.rpm.  IIRC, you have to do qt first, then either kdelibs or kdebase.  One
> >will complain about missing stuff and error out.  This will let you know.
> >Then you just rebuild the rest in no certain order and install all of them at
> >once.  Depending on the speed of your machine, it could take a while.  Unless
> >you can find someone that still has the Sybil built rpms for KDE 2.1.1.
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Re: Tarballs for KDE2.1.1 and OL 3.1

[Keith Antoine]

Yes you need the latest QT, but you might wait to se if i can find them for you. Also 
if not I
can redo them as I have a far faster beast than you do.
Athlon 1.2gig 384mb ram

Shawn Tayler wrote:

> On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 05:09:37 +, Collins Richey wrote:
>
> >FYI.  Whatever the level (I'm sure Mike is right about 2.2), you are
> >looking at 12-15 hours compile time on a k6/2 300Mz 64M machine; faster,
> >if you have better silica chips and memory.
> >
> >I can't compare download times, since this is trivial on my cable
> >connection.
>
> Yeah,
>
> I do have the tarballs downloaded and unBziped.  My system is a P3-500
> with 256M RAM.  I'd up to trying I am just trying to figure out where
> to start.  Also, QT was not part of the DL source and I was wondering
> if I need to get it.  I already have qt2-2.2.4-4
>
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Re: Kernel 2.4.6

[Keith Antoine]

Good one mate, you were the only one to spot that problem, does 2.4.4 have that too ??

Mike Andrew wrote:

> On Sunday 08 July 2001 22:32, David A. Bandel wrote:
>
> > When 2.4.6 hits the cardbus stuff, I get a rather dramatic kernel oops.
> > I need the PCMCIA stuff, so guess I have to wait and use 2.4.5.
>
> I've just spotted that 2.4.5 in fact, totally broke the usb video interface.
> All such cameras are unworkable on that specific kernel.
>
> I know this happens from time to time, but the 2.4.x series _appears_ to be
> unusually 'beta' in it's makeup.
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Re: Tarballs for KDE2.1.1 and OL 3.1

[Keith Antoine]

I have been busy getting things finalised before going on holidays. However i have not 
been in
Linux for 2 weeks and cannot remeber whether I kept the rpms for sybil
that i did for kde 2.1.1... I will check that out tomorrow as its a bit 
late here
and I am mpegging a video and downloading a video stream at the moment.

I'll get back tomorrow. If I find them i'll put them on the website for 
download.

Collins Richey wrote:

> On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 01:47:04 -0500 Jim Conner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > About 3 months ago when we were evaluating Sybil, there were some rpms
> > for
> > KDE 2.1.1 that were made.
>
> Skippy (Kantoine) made the rpms.  Maybe he's listening, or you could
> contact him offline to see if he can put them up again.  The rpms worked
> without a hitch on 3.1 beta.
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Re: OV511 (USB camera)

[Keith Antoine]

Mike Andrew wrote:

> >Why did you pick up on the OV511, any particular reason ?
>
> usb module auto detected this 'device' along with my usb mouse, and
> consequently auto loaded the so-called ov511.o module.
>

Unfortunately this in itself is no indication that it will work and especially I have 
found its
a hit and miss with most cameras. There are very few with reliable drivers,
manufacturers problem.


> > I have a logitech webcam which is not supported by the latest kernels also
> > my digitals which again are not.
>
> Do you know this for fact? Meaning has someone stated as such, or you just
> haven't (yet) found the 'correct' driver? If not, modprobe ov511, it covers a
> wide range of CCD chips.

Ok I will indeed try it again to see if its improved over the last 6 months but it was 
useless
last time. The real problem lies in that the camera is supposed to be seen as a
removable drive and non of those devs are any use. Underr windows its seen as a USB 
removeable
drive and there appears to nothing compatibel in linux, as yet.


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