Re: FYI: Translation of web site
On Fri, 21 Nov 2008, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: If people have good reasons for why we should discourage translations of the web pages, now is good time to give them. The only good reason would be that they are not enough kept to date. What if there is a download page in german, but it does not have the latest versions? I think I can fix something for the download page. One way would be to create it using a template, so that the translations would only require certain phrases to be translated. The backend is already in place for this. It's a good point though, and something that needs to be dealt with carefully. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: FYI: Translation of web site
On Fri, 21 Nov 2008, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: If people have good reasons for why we should discourage translations of the web pages, now is good time to give them. The only good reason would be that they are not enough kept to date. What if there is a download page in german, but it does not have the latest versions? I think I can fix something for the download page. One way would be to create it using a template, so that the translations would only require certain phrases to be translated. The backend is already in place for this. It's a good point though, and something that needs to be dealt with carefully. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
FYI: Translation of web site
Hi, I've been talking to two persons (Alex and Max) about translations of the web site. The original reason for Alex was to set up a Hungarian site, which is why he wanted to be able to mirror the main site. It's now possible to actually mirror our site, but Alex also intends to translate it first. For that reason, I'm working with Alex on setting up a Hungarian translation of the web site, and Alex is doing the work on our web site in the group called 'WebHu'. So in practice, Alex is creating translated versions of the web pages that go into a new wiki group, WebHu. You can for instance see http://www.lyx.org/WebHu.Home. Another person, Max, was interested in doing a German translation. We'll see if he's still interested. I've got a good idea of how to do the backend of the translated web pages, it's actually relatively simple. The hungarian version of a page Web.PageX is simply translated into the paeg WebHu.PageX. If there's a German version, it'll be translated into the page WebDe.PageX. It is then possible to add markup to for instance the sidebar, so that if the current (english) page is available in another language, a link to the translated page appears. In fact, the only real issue is if it's a good idea have this link in the sidebar, or if we should have flags at the bottom of the page, or something else. So eventually I'll come and ask for opinions on how to display this thing. This page will display which pages have been translated. http://www.lyx.org/SiteTranslation If people have good reasons for why we should discourage translations of the web pages, now is good time to give them. regards, /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
FYI: Translation of web site
Hi, I've been talking to two persons (Alex and Max) about translations of the web site. The original reason for Alex was to set up a Hungarian site, which is why he wanted to be able to mirror the main site. It's now possible to actually mirror our site, but Alex also intends to translate it first. For that reason, I'm working with Alex on setting up a Hungarian translation of the web site, and Alex is doing the work on our web site in the group called 'WebHu'. So in practice, Alex is creating translated versions of the web pages that go into a new wiki group, WebHu. You can for instance see http://www.lyx.org/WebHu.Home. Another person, Max, was interested in doing a German translation. We'll see if he's still interested. I've got a good idea of how to do the backend of the translated web pages, it's actually relatively simple. The hungarian version of a page Web. is simply translated into the paeg WebHu.. If there's a German version, it'll be translated into the page WebDe.. It is then possible to add markup to for instance the sidebar, so that if the current (english) page is available in another language, a link to the translated page appears. In fact, the only real issue is if it's a good idea have this link in the sidebar, or if we should have flags at the bottom of the page, or something else. So eventually I'll come and ask for opinions on how to display this thing. This page will display which pages have been translated. http://www.lyx.org/SiteTranslation If people have good reasons for why we should discourage translations of the web pages, now is good time to give them. regards, /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: svn access at work
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008, Paul A. Rubin wrote: Pavel Sanda wrote: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Stephan Witt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I cannot use outgoing ssh from inside my office network. The administrators blocked that service :( Is it possible to build an ssh tunnel via https? If it is too much of trouble I have to commit at evening from my home network. The Subversion server can be set up to use https for access; the question is whether whoever is administering it is willing to do so. I don't think that's a good idea, something vague I remeber about the SVN server not being so good when the repository is accessed through multiple mechanisms. Stephan could run ssh over some other port? He have to start his own sshd once on aussie (from home of course), telling it to use e.g. port 2995. Then from work he can do ssh aussie.lyx.org -p 2995 As for the commits, he'd have to change his .ssh/config so that e.g. the alias 'aussie' is set to use port 2995. Then simply doing ssh aussie will work. And he'll have to checkout using 'aussie' as the name of the host. /Christian Running sshd as a normal user: http://www.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/securityfocus/Secure_Shell/2003-08/0048.html -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: svn access at work
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008, Stephan Witt wrote: As I see it now there are 2 possible solutions: 1) as Pavel suggested I have to go via https tunnel inside my home network and then via ssh to aussie (requires dyndns at home or something similiar). 2) somebody is willing to setup a ssh service at the https port of aussie... I guess that is unlikely to happen. But who knows... Are you saying your employer only allows outgoing connections to port 443 of other machines? Otherwise you can set up your own ssh service on a port of your choice on ausse as I described in the other mail. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: svn access at work
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008, Paul A. Rubin wrote: Pavel Sanda wrote: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Stephan Witt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > writes: > > I cannot use outgoing ssh from inside my office network. > > The administrators blocked that service :( > > Is it possible to build an ssh tunnel via https? If it is > > too much of trouble I have to commit at evening from my home network. The Subversion server can be set up to use https for access; the question is whether whoever is administering it is willing to do so. I don't think that's a good idea, something vague I remeber about the SVN server not being so good when the repository is accessed through multiple mechanisms. Stephan could run ssh over some other port? He have to start his own sshd once on aussie (from home of course), telling it to use e.g. port 2995. Then from work he can do ssh aussie.lyx.org -p 2995 As for the commits, he'd have to change his .ssh/config so that e.g. the alias 'aussie' is set to use port 2995. Then simply doing ssh aussie will work. And he'll have to checkout using 'aussie' as the name of the host. /Christian Running sshd as a normal user: http://www.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/securityfocus/Secure_Shell/2003-08/0048.html -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: svn access at work
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008, Stephan Witt wrote: As I see it now there are 2 possible solutions: 1) as Pavel suggested I have to go via https tunnel inside my home network and then via ssh to aussie (requires dyndns at home or something similiar). 2) somebody is willing to setup a ssh service at the https port of aussie... I guess that is unlikely to happen. But who knows... Are you saying your employer only allows outgoing connections to port 443 of other machines? Otherwise you can set up your own ssh service on a port of your choice on ausse as I described in the other mail. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Site map+?
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008, Guenter Milde wrote: a) the site map is as clear and informative (the LyX one is, but not all) b) the site map is up-to-date. I agree with both points. The main point is b). + If we can guarantee that the site map will always be in sync with the actual site without much effort, it is an added bonus. - If keeping the site map up to date takes major ressources or is neglected at some point due to missing interest or time, this is worse than no site map. Today the site map is manually created, and has to be manually updated. Note that the site map covers _more_ than just the web pages at www.lyx.org, as it also refers to: * FTP downloads * Wiki pages (for users), including specific pages * Wiki pages (for developers) * Hebrew web pages * Japanese web pages So it's a bit wrong to call it a site map as it includes external sources, but it is a compact list of good pages. In my opinion I think we can keep this page and try to check that it's ok about once a year. That should be doable and reasonable with our resources. regards, Christian PS. Maybe the site map should indicate when it refers to an external site? E.g. by writing [wiki.lyx.org] after links to the wiki etc. Here's the source of the site map: - (:page_type:web:)(:description: Site map :) (:linebreaks:)(:comment Change behaviour to honour line breaks:) !!!Main [[Home]] [[News]] [[Download]] - [[FTP Sources - ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/stable/]] - [[FTP Binaries - ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/]] - [[FTP Pre-releases - ftp://ftp.devel.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/]] - [[Linux - http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnLinux]] - [[Windows - http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/Windows]] - [[Mac - http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/Mac]] - [[Additional software]] - [[Versioning system]] !!! Learn More [[Features]] [[Screenshots]] - [[Visual tour]] - [[Walkthrough]] [[About LyX]] - [[What is LyX]] - [[License]] - [[Credits]] - [[Blanket permission]] - [[Press about LyX]] - [[Tutorials - http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/Tutorials]] - [[Hebrew web - http://hebrew.lyx.googlepages.com/home]] - [[Japanese web - http://secreport.com/default.aspx]] [[Mailing lists]] [[LyX Wiki - http://wiki.lyx.org]] !!!Contribution / Development [[Get involved]] [[LyX Bugzilla - http://bugzilla.lyx.org/]] [[Donate]] [[Feature requests - http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/FeaturePoll]] [[Translation]] - [[Current status - I18n]] - [[Translation hints]] [[Development]] - [[Road map]] - [[Developer resources]] - [[How to use SVN]] - [[Subversion repository - http://www.lyx.org/trac/timeline]] - [[|Developers wiki area - http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/Devel]] - -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Site map+?
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008, Guenter Milde wrote: a) the site map is as clear and informative (the LyX one is, but not all) b) the site map is up-to-date. I agree with both points. The main point is b). + If we can guarantee that the site map will always be in sync with the actual site without much effort, it is an added bonus. - If keeping the site map up to date takes major ressources or is neglected at some point due to missing interest or time, this is worse than no site map. Today the site map is manually created, and has to be manually updated. Note that the site map covers _more_ than just the web pages at www.lyx.org, as it also refers to: * FTP downloads * Wiki pages (for users), including specific pages * Wiki pages (for developers) * Hebrew web pages * Japanese web pages So it's a bit wrong to call it a site map as it includes external sources, but it is a compact list of good pages. In my opinion I think we can keep this page and try to check that it's ok about once a year. That should be doable and reasonable with our resources. regards, Christian PS. Maybe the site map should indicate when it refers to an external site? E.g. by writing [wiki.lyx.org] after links to the wiki etc. Here's the source of the site map: - (:page_type:web:)(:description: Site map :) (:linebreaks:)(:comment Change behaviour to honour line breaks:) !!!Main [[Home]] [[News]] [[Download]] -> [[FTP Sources -> ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/stable/]] -> [[FTP Binaries -> ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/bin/]] -> [[FTP Pre-releases -> ftp://ftp.devel.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/]] -> [[Linux -> http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyXOnLinux]] -> [[Windows -> http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/Windows]] -> [[Mac -> http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/Mac]] -> [[Additional software]] -> [[Versioning system]] !!! Learn More [[Features]] [[Screenshots]] -> [[Visual tour]] -> [[Walkthrough]] [[About LyX]] -> [[What is LyX]] -> [[License]] -> [[Credits]] -> [[Blanket permission]] -> [[Press about LyX]] -> [[Tutorials -> http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/Tutorials]] -> [[Hebrew web -> http://hebrew.lyx.googlepages.com/home]] -> [[Japanese web -> http://secreport.com/default.aspx]] [[Mailing lists]] [[LyX Wiki -> http://wiki.lyx.org]] !!!Contribution / Development [[Get involved]] [[LyX Bugzilla -> http://bugzilla.lyx.org/]] [[Donate]] [[Feature requests -> http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/FeaturePoll]] [[Translation]] -> [[Current status -> I18n]] -> [[Translation hints]] [[Development]] -> [[Road map]] -> [[Developer resources]] -> [[How to use SVN]] -> [[Subversion repository -> http://www.lyx.org/trac/timeline]] -> [[|Developers wiki area -> http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/Devel]] - -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Status icons for new features
Per a request by Jean-Marc, I added the ability to add an icon to descriptions of new features. The idea was for instance to clearly show that a new feature has not been documented yet. Here's a page demonstrating markup and documentation of implemeation etc. And some icons: http://wiki.lyx.org/Test/StatusIcon Also see http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/Status Jean-Marc wanted these icons to for instance be used on the page http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/NewInLyX16 or http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/NewInLyX20 The icons as such need work, I just took something... I'll let Jean-Marc expand on how he's thinking this could be used. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Status icons for new features
Per a request by Jean-Marc, I added the ability to add an icon to descriptions of new features. The idea was for instance to clearly show that a new feature has not been documented yet. Here's a page demonstrating markup and documentation of implemeation etc. And some icons: http://wiki.lyx.org/Test/StatusIcon Also see http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/Status Jean-Marc wanted these icons to for instance be used on the page http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/NewInLyX16 or http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/NewInLyX20 The icons as such need work, I just took something... I'll let Jean-Marc expand on how he's thinking this could be used. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Wiki password
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008, killermike wrote: Could I have a wiki password, please? I have sent him a password off-list. /C -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Release instructions (Was: LyX 1.6.0 is released)
On Tue, 11 Nov 2008, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Where are the instructions located? Somewhere in the wiki. Release instructions here: http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/ReleaseProcedure I added section about what web pages that need to be updated, and in that section I added that the page Web.Download should be updated to point to the new release. /Christian Abdel. -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Painter updating bug
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008, Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote: To reproduce this bug: 1. New file 2. Enter some text 3. New paragraph 4. Insert a Note (e.g.) with some text in it. 5. Select some text. 6. Press cursor up. Now the selection is not cleared. It is cleared in the cursor, but the screen isn't repainted. Behaviour confirmed (of course). /C This is caused by the fact that the cur.updateFlags are reset at the top of the Text::dispatch function. // FIXME: We use the update flag to indicates wether a singlePar or a // full screen update is needed. We reset it here but shall we restore it // at the end? To solve this bug, we should indeed restore the updateFlags. Vincent -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Website Internationalization?
Hi Maximilian, Are you still interested in setting up a German version of the web site? If so, we could discuss it now as the site has been stable for some time. Here's a question: Would every page have to be translated? (This would also mean having to update a German translation regurlarly, which may well be more work than we can actually manage) regards, Christian (Apologies for getting back so late) On Sat, 5 Apr 2008, Maksi wrote: I actually wanted to post this in the documentation list, but all discussions about the new website seem to take place either here or on the users list. I wanted to ask whether an internationalization of the website is planned and if not, make a proposal for it and offer my help for translating it to German and keeping the translation up to date. I think that good open source projects should have project websites in more languages than just English, especially if they offer the software in languages other than English. Even though I know English quite well, I like to surf German websites and if I get the choice, I always tend to choose a German page instead of an English page. I think that LyX would also benefit from a website in several languages. I have had some thoughts about joining the docs team and help translating but I took a look at the translation process and it seemed to complicated for me. As for a website however, it is a lot easier even for an average user to translate it. Kind regards, Maximilian Wollner -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Tags related to development of wiki pages
Hi, Please use the following tags when creating a page that is related to the development of LyX-series: See the page http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/Tags for details (or ask me if that page is unclear). Here's the text content: * LyX 1_5: Wiki pages related to the development of the LyX 1.5.x-series. * LyX 1_6: Wiki pages related to the development of the LyX 1.6.x-series. * LyX 2_0: Wiki pages related to the development of the LyX 2.0.x-series. The idea is that you can for instance go the page http://wiki.lyx.org/Category/LyX16 and get a list of all the pages related to the development of the 1.6.x-series. In for this to work, us developers that create a wiki page need to add the tag [[!LyX 1_6]] to for instance a page that you've created in order to describe a new feature you have created. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Added search box to sidebar
Hi Rex, I'm going through my old back log... :-) You had an idea about using google search (see below), and I've now finally added a first test here: http://www.lyx.org/TestGoogleSearch Could you please check that it's what you intended? (Then we can discuss if/how it should be used instead of the regular search, or if it should be added next to it). Best regards /Christian Rex C. Eastbourne wrote: I like the idea of a search box. I created a Google custom search engine for different LyX websites, including *.lyx.org and the mailing lists here: http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008972033992887248866%3Aoarvwprmgvo We can embed this search box and even the search results on the LyX site with a small HTML/JS code snippet, but AFAIK those are not enabled. However, I think this would be useful. Note: the search engine takes seconds to create, in case someone wants to create one of his own and tweak the settings. Rex By the way, here is the code snippet to embed the search box: That's right; I forgot to specify the form action. Here's how to do it. Paste this code in the page where we want the search box to appear. Note: change action= to action=SomePage, where we want the results to appear. !-- Google CSE Search Box Begins -- form action= id=cse-search-box input type=hidden name=cx value=008972033992887248866:oarvwprmgvo / input type=hidden name=cof value=FORID:11 / input type=text name=q size=25 / input type=submit name=sa value=Search / /form script type=text/javascript src=http://www.google.com/coop/cse/brand?form=cse-search-boxlang=en;/script !-- Google CSE Search Box Ends -- Then paste the following code on http:// (the different page specified above), where we want the search results to appear. !-- Google Search Result Snippet Begins -- div id=cse-search-results/div script type=text/javascript var googleSearchIframeName = cse-search-results; var googleSearchFormName = cse-search-box; var googleSearchFrameWidth = 600; var googleSearchDomain = www.google.com; var googleSearchPath = /cse; /script script type=text/javascript src=http://www.google.com/afsonline/show_afs_search.js;/script !-- Google Search Result Snippet Ends -- A bit more documentation can be found here: http://www.google.com/support/customsearch/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=71640 Rex -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Site map+?
Do we need a site map for the web site? /Christian Below is an old suggest I've found: Home AboutLyX WhatIsLyX Donate Download Features License News MailingLists PressAboutLyX Credits RoadMap AdditionalSoftware * Development ** GetInvolved ** DeveloperResources ** DevelopmentNews ** BlanketPermission ** HowToUseSVN ** I18n ** Translation ** VersioningSystem * VisualTour ** Screenshots ** Walkthrough ** Walkthrough2 ** Walkthrough3 ** Walkthrough4 ** Walkthrough5 -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Search box in the side bar?
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: a look on this page where I activated the search field in the side bar. Yes, ugly ;-) An aligned input widget and button (as on kde.org) would improve the look already IMHO. I took Paul's suggestion (from a very old email) and shortened the text. I'd like some feedback on this appearance, ok? http://www.lyx.org/Test Or I kan try and align the search field and the search button above each other (as in kde.org). /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: How to correctly add www page in new wiki
On Sun, 1 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: Joost Verburg wrote: Pavel Sanda wrote: i've tried to bring back related software page in wiki but i guess some action needs to be done so http://www.lyx.org/Related starts to work. wiki is mapping it into http://www.lyx.org/Group.Related. what should be done? There is already an updated version of this page: http://www.lyx.org/AdditionalSoftware (linked from the Download page). i was thinking how to make the download page to be more easily parsed by newcomers. would you consider this as improvement? http://195.113.26.193/~sanda/junk/sc.jpg pavel Joost liked your suggestion, did you ever implement it? /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: New flash tutorial: LyX and LaTeX
Has anyone looked at this? On Sun, 4 May 2008, Rex C. Eastbourne wrote: I made a new short intro video on LyX's features for working with LaTeX here: http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/Screencasts/LyX_and_LaTeX.htm Thoughts? (I don't have flash...:-( /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Search box in the side bar?
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: On Tue, 22 Apr 2008, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: a look on this page where I activated the search field in the side bar. Yes, ugly ;-) An aligned input widget and button (as on kde.org) would improve the look already IMHO. I took Paul's suggestion (from a very old email) and shortened the text. I'd like some feedback on this appearance, ok? imho it looks rather ugly... No search box at all then? Or aligned as in kde.org? /C pavel -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Clipboard WorkArea ?
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008, Tommaso Cucinotta wrote: would anyone find it useful to have a particular (dockable) window showing the clipboard content, of course in fully LyX-formatted way within its own read-only WorkArea ? Also, it could show a queue of the last copied contents, so that a user could paste any one of them into the current cursor position by simply clicking on it. Also, instead of showing the entire copied stuff, it could perhaps only show the first (or the first k) line(s), and/or the last (or the last h) line(s), for long text segments. Insets could show up as always closed to keep it compact. Just an idea that would seem useful to me, don't know if others would like it or find it too much M$-ish I have no idea, but why not file a request for an enhancment in Bugzilla? /C t. -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Thanks and Request for Feature
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008, Sean Mullane wrote: This is my first time posting to this list. First, let me say that LyX has been a great tool for me - I do all my write-ups and homework sets in it now. It certainly makes LaTeX easier and faster to use. So keep up the good work! That said, I haven't found a way to include most cursive characters in math formulas. There is the \ell, \imath and \jmath, but that's it in terms of lower case cursive. Given that I study physics, characters like the cursive 'r' come up quite a bit. It would be nice if there were a whole cursive alphabet section like one sees for the greek letters. I'm not especially well-versed in LaTeX, so it may be that this falls outside your realm, but if not it would be a much-appreciated feature. Hi Sean, I think you should try asking on the user's list, maybe someone there will know? Otherwise it sounds like you should add it as a request for an enhancment in the Bugzilla system. regards, /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Moved Screencasts page
On Sat, 17 May 2008, Rex C. Eastbourne wrote: I notice that the page above is now redirected to VisualTour, which is ok with me. As for the wiki page, it fills a different role. The web pages are the official pages, i.e. we should be ensure that they're accurate and of some reasonable quality. The wiki pages on the other hand are there to allow non-developers to contribute directly. So, I think we should keep the wiki page, and link to it from the official page. Finally, I think it's a neat idea to separate between introductory screencasts and advanced screencasts. If they're in two different pages, or just under different headings doesn't matter that much to me. Thanks for your reply. Just to clarify, do you suggest that we (1) keep all the screencasts on the www page, (2) choose a few screencasts to display on lyx.org/VisualTour and link to the rest on the wiki page, or (3) that we put all the screencasts on the wiki page? H uhh.. no idea :-) Here are my thoughts on screencasts. - Screencasts are an important part of introducing people to LyX I agree. - We want to display introductory screencasts prominently, and ideally don't want to send surfers to a different/less polished site to view them - We could potentially put finished screencasts on the VisualTour page, and have a page like http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/Screencasts-HowToCreateThem as a sandbox for anyone who wants to test out new screencasts. I like that idea! /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Search box in the side bar?
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: I took Paul's suggestion (from a very old email) and shortened the text. I'd like some feedback on this appearance, ok? imho it looks rather ugly... No search box at all then? Or aligned as in kde.org? you can try, but i'm afraid it would be bit difficult to make it look pretty with our layout... pavel After a discussion with Pavel, I decided to give up on it for estethical reasons. If someone can come up with a design that would look ok, I can see about implementing it. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Reminiscing II: Old web page by John Wess, TranlsationHints
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: Angus Leeming wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: Nice to read: http://www.lyx.org/TranslationHints /Christian PS. I'm not sure if we still should link to this page, and from which page we should link to it. Ideal material for a wiki, no? It's a useful but personal account. i think its ok in the current position. Fine by me, but we should link to it from some other page on the web site, or? /C pavel -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Reminder: The history and source of our web pages will beccome public
After a quick discussion with no objections, I'll eventually commit the wiki source files of our web pages to the SVN repository. This post is primarily a reminder that this will also expose the _source_ (wiki markup) of the web pages, including all revisions of the page. So don't put stupid stuff in the web pages, treat their content (source and history) as publically available even though it looks like you need to login in order to access it. For instance, something really stupid to do would be to create a page such as 'http://www.lyx.org/Secrets' and try to protect it with a separate wiki read password. Even though a read password is required, it's still publically accessible through the SVN repository (by looking at the source file containing the wiki markup and history). regards, /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: menu structure
Cheers, Konrad (off for lunch to Quantum) Way late, but... was that the restaurant at KTH, Stockholm? /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
The page Web/Donate updated, hopefully improved.
Uwe, could you check http://www.lyx.org/Donate /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Setting up a new developer and other administrative stuff
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: here are my notes Here's the place for setting up a new developer and other administrative stuff http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/Administration /C -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Reminiscing II: Old web page by John Wess, TranlsationHints
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: currently its on devel section for translators. you see better place where to put it? My bad, thanks. /C pavel -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Procedure for backproting? Re: [Cvslog] r27505 - in /lyx-devel/branches/BRANCH_1_6_X/src/insets: ...
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008, rgheck wrote: Don't forget status.16x. I always do. Do we have a checklist somewhere with the files to change, and what to do, when backporting? I found this with excerpts from some mail. http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/NotesOnPatchProcess Maybe it'd be an idea to update that page, or move the content to the page * http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/ReleaseProcedure This page reports the different release procedures used across LyX versions Is the stuff on NotesOnPatchProcess reasonably accurate? (If so, I can clean it up and move before someone else reviews it). /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
[O-T]: Re: menu structure
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008, Konrad Hofbauer wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: Cheers, Konrad (off for lunch to Quantum) Way late, but... was that the restaurant at KTH, Stockholm? Indeed. I am still at S3. Small world (I did my PhD there). Wonder how LyX users there are at KTH these days. /C -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Wiki password
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008, killermike wrote: Could I have a wiki password, please? I have sent him a password off-list. /C -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Release instructions (Was: LyX 1.6.0 is released)
On Tue, 11 Nov 2008, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Where are the instructions located? Somewhere in the wiki. Release instructions here: http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/ReleaseProcedure I added section about what web pages that need to be updated, and in that section I added that the page Web.Download should be updated to point to the new release. /Christian Abdel. -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Painter updating bug
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008, Vincent van Ravesteijn - TNW wrote: To reproduce this bug: 1. New file 2. Enter some text 3. New paragraph 4. Insert a Note (e.g.) with some text in it. 5. Select some text. 6. Press cursor up. Now the selection is not cleared. It is cleared in the cursor, but the screen isn't repainted. Behaviour confirmed (of course). /C This is caused by the fact that the cur.updateFlags are reset at the top of the Text::dispatch function. // FIXME: We use the update flag to indicates wether a singlePar or a // full screen update is needed. We reset it here but shall we restore it // at the end? To solve this bug, we should indeed restore the updateFlags. Vincent -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Website Internationalization?
Hi Maximilian, Are you still interested in setting up a German version of the web site? If so, we could discuss it now as the site has been stable for some time. Here's a question: Would every page have to be translated? (This would also mean having to update a German translation regurlarly, which may well be more work than we can actually manage) regards, Christian (Apologies for getting back so late) On Sat, 5 Apr 2008, Maksi wrote: I actually wanted to post this in the documentation list, but all discussions about the new website seem to take place either here or on the users list. I wanted to ask whether an internationalization of the website is planned and if not, make a proposal for it and offer my help for translating it to German and keeping the translation up to date. I think that good open source projects should have project websites in more languages than just English, especially if they offer the software in languages other than English. Even though I know English quite well, I like to surf German websites and if I get the choice, I always tend to choose a German page instead of an English page. I think that LyX would also benefit from a website in several languages. I have had some thoughts about joining the docs team and help translating but I took a look at the translation process and it seemed to complicated for me. As for a website however, it is a lot easier even for an average user to translate it. Kind regards, Maximilian Wollner -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Tags related to development of wiki pages
Hi, Please use the following tags when creating a page that is related to the development of LyX-series: See the page http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/Tags for details (or ask me if that page is unclear). Here's the text content: * LyX 1_5: Wiki pages related to the development of the LyX 1.5.x-series. * LyX 1_6: Wiki pages related to the development of the LyX 1.6.x-series. * LyX 2_0: Wiki pages related to the development of the LyX 2.0.x-series. The idea is that you can for instance go the page http://wiki.lyx.org/Category/LyX16 and get a list of all the pages related to the development of the 1.6.x-series. In for this to work, us developers that create a wiki page need to add the tag [[!LyX 1_6]] to for instance a page that you've created in order to describe a new feature you have created. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Added search box to sidebar
Hi Rex, I'm going through my old back log... :-) You had an idea about using google search (see below), and I've now finally added a first test here: http://www.lyx.org/TestGoogleSearch Could you please check that it's what you intended? (Then we can discuss if/how it should be used instead of the regular search, or if it should be added next to it). Best regards /Christian > Rex C. Eastbourne wrote: > > I like the idea of a search box. I created a Google custom search > > engine for different LyX websites, including *.lyx.org and the mailing lists > > here: > > > > http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=008972033992887248866%3Aoarvwprmgvo > > > > We can embed this search box and even the search results on the LyX > > site > > with a small HTML/JS code snippet, but AFAIK those are not enabled. > > However, I think this would be useful. > > > > Note: the search engine takes seconds to create, in case someone wants > > to > > create one of his own and tweak the settings. > > > > Rex > > By the way, here is the code snippet to embed the search box: That's right; I forgot to specify the form action. Here's how to do it. Paste this code in the page where we want the search box to appear. Note: change action="" to action="SomePage", where we want the results to appear. <tt>src="<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.google.com/coop/cse/brand?form=cse-search-box&lang=en"">http://www.google.com/coop/cse/brand?form=cse-search-box&lang=en"</a>;> Then paste the following code on http:// (the different page specified above), where we want the search results to appear. var googleSearchIframeName = "cse-search-results"; var googleSearchFormName = "cse-search-box"; var googleSearchFrameWidth = 600; var googleSearchDomain = "www.google.com"; var googleSearchPath = "/cse"; <tt>src="<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.google.com/afsonline/show_afs_search.js"">http://www.google.com/afsonline/show_afs_search.js"</a>;> A bit more documentation can be found here: http://www.google.com/support/customsearch/bin/answer.py?hl=en=71640 Rex -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Site map+?
Do we need a site map for the web site? /Christian Below is an old suggest I've found: Home AboutLyX WhatIsLyX Donate Download Features License News MailingLists PressAboutLyX Credits RoadMap AdditionalSoftware * Development ** GetInvolved ** DeveloperResources ** DevelopmentNews ** BlanketPermission ** HowToUseSVN ** I18n ** Translation ** VersioningSystem * VisualTour ** Screenshots ** Walkthrough ** Walkthrough2 ** Walkthrough3 ** Walkthrough4 ** Walkthrough5 -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Search box in the side bar?
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: a look on this page where I activated the search field in the side bar. Yes, ugly ;-) An aligned input widget and button (as on kde.org) would improve the look already IMHO. I took Paul's suggestion (from a very old email) and shortened the text. I'd like some feedback on this appearance, ok? http://www.lyx.org/Test Or I kan try and align the search field and the search button above each other (as in kde.org). /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: How to correctly add www page in new wiki
On Sun, 1 Jun 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: Joost Verburg wrote: Pavel Sanda wrote: i've tried to bring back related software page in wiki but i guess some action needs to be done so http://www.lyx.org/Related starts to work. wiki is mapping it into http://www.lyx.org/Group.Related. what should be done? There is already an updated version of this page: http://www.lyx.org/AdditionalSoftware (linked from the Download page). i was thinking how to make the download page to be more easily parsed by newcomers. would you consider this as improvement? http://195.113.26.193/~sanda/junk/sc.jpg pavel Joost liked your suggestion, did you ever implement it? /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: New flash tutorial: LyX and LaTeX
Has anyone looked at this? On Sun, 4 May 2008, Rex C. Eastbourne wrote: I made a new short intro video on LyX's features for working with LaTeX here: http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/LyX/Screencasts/LyX_and_LaTeX.htm Thoughts? (I don't have flash...:-( /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Search box in the side bar?
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: On Tue, 22 Apr 2008, Juergen Spitzmueller wrote: a look on this page where I activated the search field in the side bar. Yes, ugly ;-) An aligned input widget and button (as on kde.org) would improve the look already IMHO. I took Paul's suggestion (from a very old email) and shortened the text. I'd like some feedback on this appearance, ok? imho it looks rather ugly... No search box at all then? Or aligned as in kde.org? /C pavel -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Clipboard WorkArea ?
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008, Tommaso Cucinotta wrote: would anyone find it useful to have a particular (dockable) window showing the clipboard content, of course in fully LyX-formatted way within its own read-only WorkArea ? Also, it could show a queue of the last copied contents, so that a user could paste any one of them into the current cursor position by simply clicking on it. Also, instead of showing the entire copied stuff, it could perhaps only show the first (or the first k) line(s), and/or the last (or the last h) line(s), for long text segments. Insets could show up as always closed to keep it compact. Just an idea that would seem useful to me, don't know if others would like it or find it too much M$-ish I have no idea, but why not file a request for an enhancment in Bugzilla? /C t. -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Thanks and Request for Feature
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008, Sean Mullane wrote: This is my first time posting to this list. First, let me say that LyX has been a great tool for me - I do all my write-ups and homework sets in it now. It certainly makes LaTeX easier and faster to use. So keep up the good work! That said, I haven't found a way to include most cursive characters in math formulas. There is the \ell, \imath and \jmath, but that's it in terms of lower case cursive. Given that I study physics, characters like the cursive 'r' come up quite a bit. It would be nice if there were a whole cursive alphabet section like one sees for the greek letters. I'm not especially well-versed in LaTeX, so it may be that this falls outside your realm, but if not it would be a much-appreciated feature. Hi Sean, I think you should try asking on the user's list, maybe someone there will know? Otherwise it sounds like you should add it as a request for an enhancment in the Bugzilla system. regards, /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Moved Screencasts page
On Sat, 17 May 2008, Rex C. Eastbourne wrote: I notice that the page above is now redirected to VisualTour, which is ok with me. As for the wiki page, it fills a different role. The web pages are the "official" pages, i.e. we should be ensure that they're accurate and of some reasonable quality. The wiki pages on the other hand are there to allow non-developers to contribute directly. So, I think we should keep the wiki page, and link to it from the official page. Finally, I think it's a neat idea to separate between "introductory" screencasts and "advanced" screencasts. If they're in two different pages, or just under different headings doesn't matter that much to me. Thanks for your reply. Just to clarify, do you suggest that we (1) keep all the screencasts on the www page, (2) choose a few screencasts to display on lyx.org/VisualTour and link to the rest on the wiki page, or (3) that we put all the screencasts on the wiki page? H uhh.. no idea :-) Here are my thoughts on screencasts. - Screencasts are an important part of introducing people to LyX I agree. - We want to display introductory screencasts prominently, and ideally don't want to send surfers to a different/less polished site to view them - We could potentially put finished screencasts on the VisualTour page, and have a page like http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/Screencasts-HowToCreateThem as a sandbox for anyone who wants to test out new screencasts. I like that idea! /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Search box in the side bar?
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: I took Paul's suggestion (from a very old email) and shortened the text. I'd like some feedback on this appearance, ok? imho it looks rather ugly... No search box at all then? Or aligned as in kde.org? you can try, but i'm afraid it would be bit difficult to make it look pretty with our layout... pavel After a discussion with Pavel, I decided to give up on it for estethical reasons. If someone can come up with a design that would look ok, I can see about implementing it. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Reminiscing II: Old web page by John Wess, TranlsationHints
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: Angus Leeming wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: Nice to read: http://www.lyx.org/TranslationHints /Christian PS. I'm not sure if we still should link to this page, and from which page we should link to it. Ideal material for a wiki, no? It's a useful but personal account. i think its ok in the current position. Fine by me, but we should link to it from some other page on the web site, or? /C pavel -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Reminder: The history and source of our web pages will beccome public
After a quick discussion with no objections, I'll eventually commit the wiki source files of our web pages to the SVN repository. This post is primarily a reminder that this will also expose the _source_ (wiki markup) of the web pages, including all revisions of the page. So don't put stupid stuff in the web pages, treat their content (source and history) as publically available even though it looks like you need to login in order to access it. For instance, something really stupid to do would be to create a page such as 'http://www.lyx.org/Secrets' and try to protect it with a separate wiki read password. Even though a read password is required, it's still publically accessible through the SVN repository (by looking at the source file containing the wiki markup and history). regards, /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: menu structure
Cheers, Konrad (off for lunch to Quantum) Way late, but... was that the restaurant at KTH, Stockholm? /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
The page Web/Donate updated, hopefully improved.
Uwe, could you check> http://www.lyx.org/Donate /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Setting up a new developer and other administrative stuff
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008, Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: here are my notes Here's the place for setting up a new developer and other administrative stuff http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/Administration /C -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Reminiscing II: Old web page by John Wess, TranlsationHints
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: currently its on devel section for translators. you see better place where to put it? My bad, thanks. /C pavel -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Procedure for backproting? Re: [Cvslog] r27505 - in /lyx-devel/branches/BRANCH_1_6_X/src/insets: ...
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008, rgheck wrote: Don't forget status.16x. I always do. Do we have a checklist somewhere with the files to change, and what to do, when backporting? I found this with excerpts from some mail. http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/NotesOnPatchProcess Maybe it'd be an idea to update that page, or move the content to the page * http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/ReleaseProcedure This page reports the different release procedures used across LyX versions Is the stuff on NotesOnPatchProcess reasonably accurate? (If so, I can clean it up and move before someone else reviews it). /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
[O-T]: Re: menu structure
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008, Konrad Hofbauer wrote: Christian Ridderström wrote: > Cheers, > Konrad (off for lunch to Quantum) Way late, but... was that the restaurant at KTH, Stockholm? Indeed. I am still at S3. Small world (I did my PhD there). Wonder how LyX users there are at KTH these days. /C -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: German Translation of the About/Credit popup
On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, istvanst wrote: Hi Istvan, I've forwarded your message to the developers' and documentation list. Thanks, Christian Hi, first of all i love lyx. Thank you for this piece of heaven of software. But in the german translation under the About/Credit popup there is a section Ruhm und Ehre I would request to change this title. This title was the slogan of the SS during german fascism and i regard it as a bad joke to use it. Sure it was unintentional so please just change it. Regards, istvan -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: German Translation of the About/Credit popup
On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, istvanst wrote: Hi Istvan, I've forwarded your message to the developers' and documentation list. Thanks, Christian Hi, first of all i love lyx. Thank you for this piece of heaven of software. But in the german translation under the About/Credit popup there is a section "Ruhm und Ehre" I would request to change this title. This title was the slogan of the SS during german fascism and i regard it as a bad joke to use it. Sure it was unintentional so please just change it. Regards, istvan -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: LyX 1.6.0 is released
On Tue, 11 Nov 2008, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: You can download LyX 1.6.0 from http://www.lyx.org/Download The download page still had the link for 1.5.6 and the 1.6.0 release notes aren't yet up at the link below I've cleaned up things there. Maybe it's a matter of updating the release instructions? Since 1.5.0 was released we've changed the backend of the web site, so maybe the instructions need to reflect this. Where are the instructions located? /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: LyX 1.6.0 is released
On Tue, 11 Nov 2008, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: > You can download LyX 1.6.0 from http://www.lyx.org/Download The download page still had the link for 1.5.6 and the 1.6.0 release notes aren't yet up at the link below I've cleaned up things there. Maybe it's a matter of updating the release instructions? Since 1.5.0 was released we've changed the backend of the web site, so maybe the instructions need to reflect this. Where are the instructions located? /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Announce (on diet)
On Sat, 8 Nov 2008, José Matos wrote: On Friday 07 November 2008 22:31:37 leuven edwin wrote: glad to hear that, note that i invented a webpage: http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/ReleaseNotes160 Then we have two solutions: a) either we link this page to the other or b) we remove the extra 0 from the announce. There's also (:redirect ... :) as an alternative,, although I don't understand what you're talking about. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Announce (on diet)
On Sat, 8 Nov 2008, José Matos wrote: On Friday 07 November 2008 22:31:37 leuven edwin wrote: glad to hear that, note that i invented a webpage: http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/ReleaseNotes160 Then we have two solutions: a) either we link this page to the other or b) we remove the extra 0 from the announce. There's also (:redirect ... :) as an alternative,, although I don't understand what you're talking about. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: 1.6 schedule
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: PS: I am beginning a new job so I have very little time to give to LyX unfortunately. Congratulations! /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: 1.6 schedule
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: PS: I am beginning a new job so I have very little time to give to LyX unfortunately. Congratulations! /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Donation page (Was: windows lyx installer)
On Tue, 28 Oct 2008, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Would you care to make a suggestion of what it should look like? To prepare the way for you, I created 'Draft'-version of the page where you can make the suggestion, see: http://www.lyx.org/Donate-Draft I reorganized it a bit following Ed's advice. Have you already moved it to 'Donate', or would you like someone else to review it first? Moving the page involves: 1. Copy the markup of Donate-Draft to the copy buffer. 2. Replace the markup with the text 'delete' to delete that page. 3. Replace the markup of 'Donate' with the copied markup. 4. Profit! /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Donation page (Was: windows lyx installer)
On Tue, 28 Oct 2008, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: Would you care to make a suggestion of what it should look like? To prepare the way for you, I created 'Draft'-version of the page where you can make the suggestion, see: http://www.lyx.org/Donate-Draft I reorganized it a bit following Ed's advice. Have you already moved it to 'Donate', or would you like someone else to review it first? "Moving" the page involves: 1. Copy the markup of Donate-Draft to the copy buffer. 2. Replace the markup with the text 'delete' to delete that page. 3. Replace the markup of 'Donate' with the copied markup. 4. Profit! /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Donation page (Was: windows lyx installer)
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, leuven edwin wrote: perhaps we should think about adding a checked checkbox Tell me how to donate! linking to http://www.lyx.org/Donate at the end of the windows installer. another suggestion is to move the projects table to the top of the webpage and add a first row with a General Donation. there is too much text on that page before arriving at the essential... Would you care to make a suggestion of what it should look like? To prepare the way for you, I created 'Draft'-version of the page where you can make the suggestion, see: http://www.lyx.org/Donate-Draft You'll see the password by using the following command on aussie: $ grep Web edit password wiki.lyx.org/passwords.txt regards, Christian PS. In case anyone wonders, here are the steps I took to create a draft page. * Went to the URI: http://www.lyx.org/Donate * Clicked the link 'login' and entered the password. Unfortunately you don't get a message if you type an incorrect password. * Clicked the link 'edit' and copied all the source markup * Opened the URI http://www.lyx.org/Web.Donate-Draft?action=edit and pasted the copied source markup. Finally I saved the page. -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Donation page (Was: windows lyx installer)
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008, leuven edwin wrote: perhaps we should think about adding a checked checkbox "Tell me how to donate!" linking to http://www.lyx.org/Donate at the end of the windows installer. another suggestion is to move the projects table to the top of the webpage and add a first row with a "General Donation". there is too much text on that page before arriving at the essential... Would you care to make a suggestion of what it should look like? To prepare the way for you, I created 'Draft'-version of the page where you can make the suggestion, see: http://www.lyx.org/Donate-Draft You'll see the password by using the following command on aussie: $ grep "Web edit password" wiki.lyx.org/passwords.txt regards, Christian PS. In case anyone wonders, here are the steps I took to create a draft page. * Went to the URI: http://www.lyx.org/Donate * Clicked the link 'login' and entered the password. Unfortunately you don't get a message if you type an incorrect password. * Clicked the link 'edit' and copied all the source markup * Opened the URI http://www.lyx.org/Web.Donate-Draft?action=edit and pasted the copied source markup. Finally I saved the page. -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
[Fun quote] (Was: About the documentation files - again)
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: - Examples where you think that they are more manuals, can also be in a submenu. please can anybody from windows herd validate that help-open ../examples/Braille.lyx works (i'm not sure about the .. part) ? I liked Pavel's way of referring to the users of Microsoft Windows :-) /Christian, sheep of the Linux herd PS. I added the quote here for now http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/Devel#quote -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
[Fun quote] (Was: About the documentation files - again)
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008, Pavel Sanda wrote: - Examples where you think that they are more manuals, can also be in a submenu. please can anybody from windows herd validate that "help-open ../examples/Braille.lyx" works (i'm not sure about the .. part) ? I liked Pavel's way of referring to the users of Microsoft Windows :-) /Christian, sheep of the Linux herd PS. I added the quote here for now http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/Devel#quote -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: changeset/26771- about the documentation files
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008, rgheck wrote: Uwe Stöhr wrote: rgheck schrieb: Thanks. Most of the Customization manual should now be up to date. The part that isn't, or at least may not be, is section 6, Including External Material. This can be removed as this is already included in the EmbeddedObjects manual. I'll have a look at this the next days. I think the material in Customization is different. It explains how to define new templates, etc, whereas Embedded Objects just talks about the ones we have. I'd drop them all. If the other ones are as out of date as the English one is, it might do more harm than good. They are even more outdated. In that case, we should definitely drop them, even if we don't have any other plan. I'm in favour of dropping the FAQ:s.lyx. However, this will implicitly place a depency: * The wiki server is running * The user has internet access Both of these can of course be mitigated by generating an FAQ document from the wiki pages. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
[O-T] Re: LyXMeeting2008
On Mon, 6 Oct 2008, Andre Poenitz wrote: http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/LyXMeeting2008 If your name is there but you haven't got a mail, tell me so. If your name is not yet there but you'd like to come nevertheless, tell me so. Note that you do not need any specific qualification or reason to come. This is basically open to everyone who can put the letters 'l', 'x' and 'y' in a pronounceable order. That's actually interesting... is there only one permutation that's reasonably easy to pronouce? (Disregarding e.g. the American's that say licks;-) /Christian PS. I got André's e-mail and I'm looking forward to the meeting. -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: changeset/26771- about the documentation files
On Mon, 6 Oct 2008, Uwe Stöhr wrote: s and the FAQ section of the Wiki. The Wiki also has the advantage that everybody can help to keep it up to date. So instead up adding things to the FAQ.lyx file, we better add this to our Wiki. Opinions if I can drop the English FAQ.lyx file? (Our Wiki does not yet support other languages than English.) What kind of support would you like? (It's a serious question). Btw, the FAQ-pages on the wiki need a _serious_ restructuring. They also lack proper version control, so when looking at a specific question, there's no way of knowing the LyX version to which it pertains. regards /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: changeset/26771- about the documentation files
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008, rgheck wrote: Uwe Stöhr wrote: rgheck schrieb: > Thanks. Most of the Customization manual should now be up to date. The > part that isn't, or at least may not be, is section 6, "Including > External Material". This can be removed as this is already included in the EmbeddedObjects manual. I'll have a look at this the next days. I think the material in Customization is different. It explains how to define new templates, etc, whereas Embedded Objects just talks about the ones we have. > I'd drop them all. If the other ones are as out of date as the English > one is, it might do more harm than good. They are even more outdated. In that case, we should definitely drop them, even if we don't have any other plan. I'm in favour of dropping the FAQ:s.lyx. However, this will implicitly place a depency: * The wiki server is running * The user has internet access Both of these can of course be mitigated by generating an FAQ document from the wiki pages. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
[O-T] Re: LyXMeeting2008
On Mon, 6 Oct 2008, Andre Poenitz wrote: http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/LyXMeeting2008 If your name is there but you haven't got a mail, tell me so. If your name is not yet there but you'd like to come nevertheless, tell me so. Note that you do not need any specific qualification or reason to come. This is basically open to everyone who can put the letters 'l', 'x' and 'y' in a pronounceable order. That's actually interesting... is there only one permutation that's reasonably easy to pronouce? (Disregarding e.g. the American's that say "licks";-) /Christian PS. I got André's e-mail and I'm looking forward to the meeting. -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: changeset/26771- about the documentation files
On Mon, 6 Oct 2008, Uwe Stöhr wrote: s and the FAQ section of the Wiki. The Wiki also has the advantage that everybody can help to keep it up to date. So instead up adding things to the FAQ.lyx file, we better add this to our Wiki. Opinions if I can drop the English FAQ.lyx file? (Our Wiki does not yet support other languages than English.) What kind of "support" would you like? (It's a serious question). Btw, the FAQ-pages on the wiki need a _serious_ restructuring. They also lack proper version control, so when looking at a specific question, there's no way of knowing the LyX version to which it pertains. regards /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Version Control on OS X
On Sat, 27 Sep 2008, tim opie wrote: Hi all, am happy to add more stuff to the wiki if you would like to give me the developer password for the mac wiki. I have been using Lyx on I've sent the password off-list. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Version Control on OS X
On Sat, 27 Sep 2008, tim opie wrote: Hi all, am happy to add more stuff to the wiki if you would like to give me the developer password for the mac wiki. I have been using Lyx on I've sent the password off-list. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: menu structure
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008, Konrad Hofbauer wrote: I (sort of) came to the conclusion though that it is too late for 1.6 anyhow (especially in terms of documentation). Am I right with that? No idea about that, but the documentation could certainly be an issue. In general, I think we should be careful about changing the menu structure, and also that we should have good reasons for the changes. In a perfect world, we'd even document _why_ we do the changes. I haven't followed this thread, so the following idea has probably already been raised, but just in case it hasn't: I think it'd be a good idea to ask users for feedback on the menu structure. Maybe by releasing a separate version of LyX so that users can actually test it. Or by presenting the structures (old, new1, new2 etc) to a wider range of users as menu trees or something. If it's only a matter of changing the menu configuration file[*], you could publish that file on the users' list and ask for feedback. Best regards /Christian [*] Is it only the menu configuration file that needs changing? -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Flight to Berlin now booked
Hi, Just thought I'd mention that I've booked the flight and added those details to the web page. Flug-Nr. Fr, 14. Nov Flight 4U 8215 15:55 Ab Stockholm-Arlanda 17:35 An Berlin-Schonefeld Mo, 17. Nov Flight 4U 8214 10:40 Ab Berlin-Schonefeld 12:15 An Stockholm-Arlanda cheers /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: menu structure
On Fri, 26 Sep 2008, Konrad Hofbauer wrote: I (sort of) came to the conclusion though that it is too late for 1.6 anyhow (especially in terms of documentation). Am I right with that? No idea about that, but the documentation could certainly be an issue. In general, I think we should be careful about changing the menu structure, and also that we should have good reasons for the changes. In a perfect world, we'd even document _why_ we do the changes. I haven't followed this thread, so the following idea has probably already been raised, but just in case it hasn't: I think it'd be a good idea to ask users for feedback on the menu structure. Maybe by releasing a separate "version" of LyX so that users can actually test it. Or by presenting the structures (old, new1, new2 etc) to a wider range of users as menu trees or something. If it's only a matter of changing the menu configuration file[*], you could publish that file on the users' list and ask for feedback. Best regards /Christian [*] Is it only the menu configuration file that needs changing? -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Flight to Berlin now booked
Hi, Just thought I'd mention that I've booked the flight and added those details to the web page. Flug-Nr. Fr, 14. Nov Flight 4U 8215 15:55 Ab Stockholm-Arlanda 17:35 An Berlin-Schonefeld Mo, 17. Nov Flight 4U 8214 10:40 Ab Berlin-Schonefeld 12:15 An Stockholm-Arlanda cheers /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: An idea about the appearance of key-bindings in the statusbar
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008, Nikos Alexandris wrote: What about improving the appearance of key-bindings in the statusbar? Increase space between key-bindings and interchange the background colour for each key-binding (light background - darker background - light background - darker background - ... ). I retouched a screenshot of the current appearance (attached pictures from the original the retouched version). Its not my best photo-editing attempt (there is also a huge empty space in the retouched picture -- couldn't invest more time on it) but I think it's clear enough of what I am thinking. Hopefully you like it and it's easy to implement. Hi Nikos, I think you have good ideas, and developers seem to notice them, but even so I'm forwarding it to the developers' list. (lyx-devel AT lists.lyx.org ) regards, Christian PS. Maybe the ability to see a log/history of the most recent commands could be useful. Do we have that possibility? -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: LyX is Nominated for the Lutèce d'Or 2008
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: I don't have the number but quite a few apparently. That's what the guy at my table told me. He is a journalist at 01-informatique and was a member of the jury. He told me he voted for us but we didn't really have a chance against OpenOffice. This is cool, thanks for telling us about it! /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: menu structure
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008, Helge Hafting wrote: Konrad Hofbauer wrote: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: Can you point to a program where _all_ document-level settings are in File menu? We shall not over-interpret the HIG. I do not have much to compare to by hand, only OO 2.3 and Word 2003. Word 2003 has the Page Setup in File, OO has Properties in File. Both of them don't have a Document menu. Both have (a Windows-HIG) Tools menu. FWIW, I like having a separate menu for 'document' related issues. I used LyX again quite recently after not having used it for a _long_ time, so long that I'd had time to forget there was a document menu. (Back when I was a regular user, it was so long ago that document settings were somewhere else). However, even me not really being used to the location of the document settings, I found it quickly and it soon felt right. What is the difference between file and document in the first place ??? A document may consist of several files. For example, the book where each chapter is a file of its own. Document settings matter only for the master document file, when you print/export the book. The chapter files may have their own settings, but they are used only if you print chapter files separately. I think Helge makes a very good point here. A file and a document aren't necessarily the same. (FWIW, I did my thesis as a multi-part document as he describes it so the use case isn't that uncommon.) Having said the above and sounding negative, I think it's great that you are looking at menu structure in a structured way! /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: lyx and collaborative editing.
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008, Helge Hafting wrote: why is this so, what a pity that would be ideal for collaboration. Because running latex on unrestricted input in practice lets you do anything you can do with a program. Want to plant a virus program? Embed the virus in latex code as a string of bytes, then add some trivial latex code to (1) write the virus to a disk file, and (2) execute that file somehow. Or maybe executing it isn't even necessary if it gets published on the wiki where unsuspecting people will stumble across it. There are ways around this, such as: * Set up the latex parsing very carefully, perhaps using a chroot where only the necessary latex files are available, and all read-only. snip Even with such a setup, or running the entire conversion in a separate virtual machine that's reset each time, there would still be a risk involved in letting _arbitrary_ users execute _arbitrary_ LaTeX software on it. How do you know they aren't skilled enough to write a program that escalates their privilegdes, and finally manages to break out of the VM. Well, they can still cause network traffic, such as running DOS/cracking attacks against other hosts within the time limit. Maybe there is a way of removing network access too. :-/ That should at least be doable using a VM. There's no reason it must have external network access. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: lyx and collaborative editing.
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008, Uwe Brauer wrote: Planet Math (http://planetmath.org/) is a collaborative encyclopedia based on LaTeX, with some restrictions to maintain a coherent look and feel (like the style of a scientific journal). The server part can be installed on any machine, the software required is downloadable from their web site. Maybe this could help solving the problem ? This looks extremely interesting. I will try that out. Thanks very much for this pointer (I tried so many google searches, this did not show up) In case you don't need a lot of math (which I doubt), the MimeTeX plugin can be used: http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/MimeTeX It was installed at wiki.lyx.org, and it works by taking a piece of LaTeX equation, convert it to an image and embedding that image. However, I think I removed it because it also allowed you to generate an image that contained /etc/passwd ... /Christian PS. If you trust your users, and use e.g. a VCS to send files to a central repository, you could set up the system so that when the files are sent to the central repository, the server automatically runs LaTeX on the files. This could of course also be done with .lyx-files. (Which reminds me that we should perhaps do this for the LyX documentation? Or at least script it, so that we can generate it on the server.) -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: An idea about the appearance of key-bindings in the statusbar
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008, Nikos Alexandris wrote: What about improving the appearance of key-bindings in the statusbar? Increase space between key-bindings and interchange the background colour for each key-binding (light background - darker background - light background - darker background - ... ). I retouched a screenshot of the current appearance (attached pictures from the "original" & the retouched version). Its not my best photo-editing attempt (there is also a huge empty space in the retouched picture -- couldn't invest more time on it) but I think it's clear enough of what I am thinking. Hopefully you like it and it's easy to implement. Hi Nikos, I think you have good ideas, and developers seem to notice them, but even so I'm forwarding it to the developers' list. (lyx-devel AT lists.lyx.org ) regards, Christian PS. Maybe the ability to see a log/history of the most recent commands could be useful. Do we have that possibility? -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: LyX is Nominated for the "Lutèce d'Or 2008"
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: I don't have the number but quite a few apparently. That's what the guy at my table told me. He is a journalist at 01-informatique and was a member of the jury. He told me he voted for us but we didn't really have a chance against OpenOffice. This is cool, thanks for telling us about it! /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: menu structure
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008, Helge Hafting wrote: Konrad Hofbauer wrote: Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote: > Can you point to a program where _all_ document-level settings are in > File menu? We shall not over-interpret the HIG. I do not have much to compare to by hand, only OO 2.3 and Word 2003. Word 2003 has the Page Setup in File, OO has "Properties" in File. Both of them don't have a Document menu. Both have (a Windows-HIG) Tools menu. FWIW, I like having a separate menu for 'document' related issues. I used LyX again quite recently after not having used it for a _long_ time, so long that I'd had time to forget there was a document menu. (Back when I was a regular user, it was so long ago that document settings were somewhere else). However, even me not really being used to the location of the document settings, I found it quickly and it soon felt "right". What is the difference between file and document in the first place ??? A document may consist of several files. For example, the book where each chapter is a file of its own. "Document settings" matter only for the master document file, when you print/export the book. The chapter files may have their own settings, but they are used only if you print chapter files separately. I think Helge makes a very good point here. A file and a document aren't necessarily the same. (FWIW, I did my thesis as a multi-part document as he describes it so the use case isn't that uncommon.) Having said the above and sounding negative, I think it's great that you are looking at menu structure in a structured way! /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: lyx and collaborative editing.
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008, Helge Hafting wrote: why is this so, what a pity that would be ideal for collaboration. Because running latex on unrestricted input in practice lets you do anything you can do with a program. Want to plant a virus program? Embed the virus in latex code as a string of bytes, then add some trivial latex code to (1) write the virus to a disk file, and (2) execute that file somehow. Or maybe executing it isn't even necessary if it gets published on the wiki where unsuspecting people will stumble across it. There are ways around this, such as: * Set up the latex parsing very carefully, perhaps using a chroot where only the necessary latex files are available, and all read-only. Even with such a setup, or running the entire conversion in a separate virtual machine that's reset each time, there would still be a risk involved in letting _arbitrary_ users execute _arbitrary_ LaTeX software on it. How do you know they aren't skilled enough to write a program that escalates their privilegdes, and finally manages to break out of the VM. Well, they can still cause network traffic, such as running DOS/cracking attacks against other hosts within the time limit. Maybe there is a way of removing network access too. :-/ That should at least be doable using a VM. There's no reason it must have external network access. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: lyx and collaborative editing.
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008, Uwe Brauer wrote: Planet Math (http://planetmath.org/) is a collaborative encyclopedia based on LaTeX, with some restrictions to maintain a coherent look and feel (like the style of a scientific journal). The server part can be installed on any machine, the software required is downloadable from their web site. Maybe this could help solving the problem ? This looks extremely interesting. I will try that out. Thanks very much for this pointer (I tried so many google searches, this did not show up) In case you don't need a lot of math (which I doubt), the MimeTeX plugin can be used: http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/MimeTeX It was installed at wiki.lyx.org, and it works by taking a piece of LaTeX equation, convert it to an image and embedding that image. However, I think I removed it because it also allowed you to generate an image that contained /etc/passwd ... /Christian PS. If you trust your users, and use e.g. a VCS to send files to a central repository, you could set up the system so that when the files are sent to the central repository, the server automatically runs LaTeX on the files. This could of course also be done with .lyx-files. (Which reminds me that we should perhaps do this for the LyX documentation? Or at least script it, so that we can generate it on the server.) -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: lyx and collaborative editing.
On Wed, 24 Sep 2008, Uwe Brauer wrote: Correct. It converts wiki (via XML, then LaTeX) to PDF. Please note that allowing plain, arbitrary LaTeX to be parsed on an open wiki is a security risk. why is this so, what a pity that would be ideal for collaboration. To which of the above parts do you refer? The part that it is a security risk to allow, arbitrary LaTeX (I am thinking here on amstex, or standard+amsmath, no user defined macros) to be parsed. (La)TeX is a programming language, so you can do a lot in it. However, you don't need to create a large program in order to get a security issue. For instance, you could use e.g. '\input' to show /etc/passwd and thus the names of the account on the machine where the LaTeX is run. Or you could show other files that the web server is supposed to only read, not show to the world. This could for instance be the content of wiki pages, including those that are supposedly protected by password or by .htaccess... Basically, this is similar to letting the users run arbitrary programs (as the web server user). Please note that we still have the security issues when embedding a LyX-file, simply because that file can contain arbitrary LaTeX code... regards /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: lyx and collaborative editing.
On Wed, 24 Sep 2008, Uwe Brauer wrote: >>> Correct. It converts wiki (via XML, then LaTeX) to PDF. Please >>> note that allowing plain, arbitrary LaTeX to be parsed on an open >>> wiki is a security risk. >> >> why is this so, what a pity that would be ideal for collaboration. > To which of the above parts do you refer? The part that it is a security risk to allow, arbitrary LaTeX (I am thinking here on amstex, or standard+amsmath, no user defined macros) to be parsed. (La)TeX is a programming language, so you can do a lot in it. However, you don't need to create a large program in order to get a security issue. For instance, you could use e.g. '\input' to show /etc/passwd and thus the names of the account on the machine where the LaTeX is run. Or you could show other files that the web server is supposed to only read, not show to the world. This could for instance be the content of wiki pages, including those that are supposedly protected by password or by .htaccess... Basically, this is similar to letting the users run arbitrary programs (as the web server user). Please note that we still have the security issues when embedding a LyX-file, simply because that file can contain arbitrary LaTeX code... regards /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: Compile error
On Mon, 22 Sep 2008, Andre Poenitz wrote: i guess everybody signed here http://wiki.lyx.org/Devel/LyXMeeting2008 will get the info, so just add yourself. André, will you add some invitational details to the page, or will you send your address etc via e-mail [off-list]? I will send details off-list. Is there anything you need to know _now_? No, I'm good, since I learned that Schoenefeld is the closest airport. Thanks /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: lyx and collaborative editing.
On Mon, 22 Sep 2008, Uwe Brauer wrote: This solution exists. See here for instance http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/PublishPDF Having read this again, it seems to be that you cannot directly write Latex or Lyx input into the wiki which is then converted. You have to start with some wiki dialect, is this correct? Correct. It converts wiki (via XML, then LaTeX) to PDF. Please note that allowing plain, arbitrary LaTeX to be parsed on an open wiki is a security risk. regards /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: lyx and collaborative editing.
On Mon, 22 Sep 2008, Uwe Brauer wrote: The adavantage is to have a server, which looks intuive. VCS seems to have a non flat learning curve and then it is not clear to me how to interchange files, by email? Typically the VCS tool would take care of interchanging the data. Maybe an example of how VCS is used in the LyX development is in place. The source code is stored in a 'repository' on a server (aussie.lyx.org). Developers can then use the VCS tool to get a local copy of all the files. When a developer has changed the files, he can 'commit' the new version of the files to the repository on the server (using the VCS). Other developers can then use the tool to update their copies of the files. If LyX has support for the VCS tool that you use, these actions (checkout, commit, update) can all be done from within LyX. regards /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
Re: lyx and collaborative editing.
On Mon, 22 Sep 2008, Abdelrazak Younes wrote: No, LyX would take care of all the complicated stuff in this mode of operation (theoretically!) even for LyX running on Windows? I think TortoiseSVN, ToritoiseCVS and the other extensions of the Explorer are all relatively user friendly, so I don't think it's a great drawback that LyX don't have built in support. /Christian -- Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
