Re: MD: Q about MDLP - ATRAC3
BTW, I just did the most obvious thing, i.e. copied the MD to the computer, extracted the raw atarc3 data, put an valid (0x0270) wav-header in front and doubleclicked on it, and tadaa... it played! Plain, simple and easyand in fact strange! u with what device did you do this? an mdh-10? thanks - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: mac question off topic a little sorry
any mac users here know if there are drivers for aureal cards with spdif out (os 9.1) - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: netmd release date
all right net md has been shown in a couple ces type shows so far. anyone heard of a possible release date, either specific or broad? - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MD Label blank
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === do these labels remove easily from md's? i'm curious because i hate having stacked 3+ labels on top of each other because they all stick together. - Original Message - From: Alan Dowds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 5:21 PM Subject: RE: MD: MD Label blank Pressit make label software and labels for MD. I got mine from discount discs (www.discountdiscs.co.uk), or try www.pressit.com They seem to work well enough with my Epson inkjet printer. Al -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hayes Sent: 18 October 2001 03:35 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MD: MD Label blank Hello... I'm looking for an online MD labeler. I have found one PDF stylefor DAT tape cases. Anyone know of an MD labeler. Hayes - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Japanese Mail Order?
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === could you post a link to this monster please, i'd like to take a look at it. thanks - Original Message - From: Shawn Lin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 3:03 AM Subject: MD: Japanese Mail Order? Does anyone know of any discount electronics mail-order stores in Japan that accept international orders, payment via credit card, and also ship internationally? I've had good luck ordering internationally from Dick Smith Electronics in Australia, it was quick easy, just like ordering from anywhere else. Not to mention I got a better price from Dick Smith than for the same item at a US-based online store. With today's global economy, I would think it should be just as easy ordering from Japan, but I can't find any stores. I was just wondering because I'd really like a 2-DIN CD/MD/TV car stereo. The only 2 I've found on the US market are the Clarion MAX2256 (CD/TV/Cassette - yuck) and the Eclipse 7301, also CD/TV/Cassette. Eeew, CASSETTE?!?!? I want MD! Clarion has one in Japan called the MAX615, sold under the Addzest brand. I wouldn't mind having one, and I've seen places to get the radio station band converter to use one in the US. Shawn - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: A question for Mac MD users
this card you can select many different input and output sampling rates. I hope this helps. - Original Message - From: Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2001 8:32 AM Subject: re: MD: A question for Mac MD users From: macdef [EMAIL PROTECTED] I see you found the Delta card. The other option is the Mac SoundBlaster Live. You can get an inexpensive daughtercard for the SBL that adds optical and coax out. Does this edition suffer from the traditional SoundBlaster resampling flaw? (POS SBs resample to 48khz internally, so an 44.1 input signal doesn't equal its 44.1 out.) __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: A question for Mac MD users
Actually i used this card because the pc it was in is being upgraded, it will be removed when the upgrade stuff is ready to put back together. anyway for mac users it works great. - Original Message - From: macdef [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2001 2:03 AM Subject: re: MD: A question for Mac MD users On Wed, 10 Oct 2001 18:40:43 -0500, Matt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, well this is more of a mac question than a md question but here goes anyway. has anyone found a pci card that works with pci based mac's that has digital out on them? and if you have how well do they work recording to md? Matt: I see you found the Delta card. The other option is the Mac SoundBlaster Live. You can get an inexpensive daughtercard for the SBL that adds optical and coax out. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: mac spdif info
Howdy all, as some of you know i'm not the largest mac user in the world. I do however have to have a couple for testing purposes on software i develop. anyway earlier i was asking about a pci based sound card that did spdif. Heck since i have the machines i might as well play with them :) anyway to take the story into another area i'm currently in the process of upgrading my computer with my delta dio 2496 sound card in it. I went to thier web site and saw that they had mac drivers. I dl'ed them and they installed w/o a problem. the controlls are pretty much the same as they are under windows boxes. same functionality and all. the spdif output and input still can go wicked high and sampling rates on that card are beyond anything i'll currently use it for. anyway just thought that the mac owners out there that have a pci slot open might want to know that this card works. Yeah i do have to admit it's quite a bit more than a usb based solution but it's true digital and no usb is involved. anyway that's my story, and at least for probably another week the mac will have that card, then it get's pulled. anyone know if aureal based sound cards have mac drivers? also it works great with all my md stuff i tried. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: A question for Mac MD users
OK, well this is more of a mac question than a md question but here goes anyway. has anyone found a pci card that works with pci based mac's that has digital out on them? and if you have how well do they work recording to md? thanks - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Armband case?
Please check this url, i have one and it does work http://www.planetminidisc.com/amdmoveit.html - Original Message - From: Jarvie, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 7:48 AM Subject: MD: Armband case? On the topic of MD cases, I have been looking all over for an armband case to use while commuting with my Kenwood DMC-J7R. So far, I have not been successful in finding one. Any suggestions? Thanks. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: copy protection question - NSync CD is copy protection experiment
You probably won't like this either, but there you go... http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns1367 Copying using home CD recorders is variable, with the US CD giving a no disk message on some recorders. When the digital output from a CD player is connected to the digital input of Philips CD recorder, or Sony Mini Disc recorder, the German disc gives the error message Copy Prohibit or Cannot Copy. hrmmm if this is standard smcs copy protection, i really dont care, i have a stripper. however it probably will annoy others that do not. However if it's some other schema that we dont know about then they are just evil...wait the riaa is evil anyway oh yeah on a side note, has anyone purchased a cd (from a mainstream band) within let's just say the last 5 years, that you actually enjoyed every track on the cd? out of the many many that i have purchased, i can honestly say that i have less than a dozen that i could listen to every track and be pleased. so maybe it's not all the riaa's fault, maybe artists should stop making crap too :) just my 2 cents on that one. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: MD v DAT
Hi, I own a CDR deck, MD deck portable but the one thing I can't do with all this is record a continous 2 or 3 hr FM radio broadcast (and later one day from DAB). OK, my MD gear both have MDLP but I'm after quality rather than convenience. LP4 is rubbish and LP2 is very listenable, but as others have said, only really for personal/in car use. I'm therefore considering a DAT personal. (I can get an Aiwa HD-S200 for UKP150). I'd be interested in comparions of DAT with MD if anyone has experience. How does taping compare ? Editing is not really an issue. I'm after the ability to make continuous long recordings of 2 or 4 hr length. cheers Matt - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: copy protection question
Just a guess here, but it would be similar to a md and a new toc get's written. but that is just a guess. Knowing this you would also lose the cddb info on it (guessing again) anyway lot's of guesses and still no cd to test it with. if anyone know's of a non-country cd, and non-michael jackson cd that has this protection on it, please post the name of it i would like to do some testing with both MD and DAT digitally. thanks - Original Message - From: macdef [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 1:44 PM Subject: re: MD: copy protection question Matt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: they say the copy protection is in the toc area, well if that part is re-written pretty much then thier protection has yet again become moot (yeah i know some hacker will figure a way to rip music the other way too) but does my idea hold water or not? Matt, that sounds like a good approach; however, how would you rewrite the TOC when trying to rip a protected CD? That's my big question right now. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Copy protection?
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === i love how music companies and the RIAA say can't, let's take a small trip back in time to before DVD-Audio was released. If i remember correctly they said it couldn't be copied either, but as we all know before it even got released a way to get around it was available. - Original Message - From: Wil Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 12:53 PM Subject: Re: MD: Copy protection? === = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === From what I last read, it prevents CDs being read in CD-ROM drives. Michael Jacksons new album is the next up to use it, and it means no MP3 ripping (until someone cracks it :P) Wil - Original Message - From: Pekka [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2001 6:18 PM Subject: MD: Copy protection? Hi, everyone! It seems that many (most?) major record companies are planning to protect their CD-releases against digital copying. What does it mean? Does this prevent copying only to CD-R and/or CD-R Audio or does this prevent digital copying to a MiniDisc as well? I'm planning to buy my first piece of MD equipment within months and I'd sure like to know. -- Best regards, Pekka - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Copy protection?
Agreed it has been circumvented, but from what i have read (correct or incorrect) these protections are different from ones used in the past. Now if they are or aren't is another reason. but again from what i read (i think c-net) it's way different than even thier latest attempt of putting errors in the track on purpose to induce click sounds. but anyway what we have all said about this so far is correct. every try so far has been moot by them to say the least, and will continue. I have a question for anyone who has any of the copy protected cd's, if you copy it via toslink cable, or coax digital, is there any error copied over to MD or if you have a dat player does it get copied there either? also if you know you have one of these alubms, can you also please give the name and artist of the album. * Wil Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Thu, 27 Sep 2001 | From what I last read, it prevents CDs being read in CD-ROM drives. | Michael Jacksons new album is the next up to use it, and it means no MP3 | ripping (until someone cracks it :P) Ummm... you are a little behind the times, because every implemented mechanism by which CD-DA is protected has already been circumvented. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Copy protection?
AhhhH, i finally found some info on this stuff at cdmediaworld.com, it seems to have written something at the beginning of the CD and it's TOC to mess with a regular CD-R drive found in computers (in as basic lahmans terms as i could get it) This however is causing some problems in some of the higher end CD Players, however it did not mention any specifically. I'm sure in 10 more minutes, or maybe 10 minutes ago someone figured a way around this already. Anyway thought you guys might want to know. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Net MD (slightly OT)
poweredge sc300, graphics card uses a tnt2 chipset not a geforce. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 8:37 AM Subject: Re: MD: Net MD (slightly OT) and what model is it? On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 06:18:42PM -0500, Matt Wall wrote: Yes they do (chipset was meant as graphics card) and i dont wanna say your wrong, but i have one sitting here. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Net MD (slightly OT)
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === ok this thread wont die, and since it wont, have you seen the price on MAC's VS DELL. Dell just ran a server deal Dual 1.(something) ghz machine, 256 meg ram, 40 gig hd, nvidia video card, $439 with OS. they ran out real quick. but i want you to show me any new mac that comes close to that and i'll agree that the price issue doesn't exist any more. Sorry to keep this off-topic thread going, but I have an obsessive-compulsive need to correct misinformation ;) Shawn Lin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Macs commanded a premium price on hardware This was definitely true in the past, but it is not any longer. The thing most people forget about the cost issue is that the VAST majority of consumers don't build their own machine, and will never upgrade their computer (processor upgrade, etc.) in the future. When their current computer gets old/outdated, they sell it (or hand it down) and buy a new one. This is true of both Windows PCs and Macs. That being the case, the above statement about Mac price premiums is only true if you build your own machine. If you buy from a name vendor, as the majority of consumers do, there is no longer a price premium. For the same money, you get as much or more buying a Mac nowadays. And you can upgrade most Mac processors nowadays for pretty cheap as well. Alan Dowds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use an Apple in my work as a motorcycle journalist. It's a three-month-old G4 500mhz, with CDRW, 384MB RAM. I normally use it for Word, Outlook, Explorer, Quark and Real Player. It crashes all the time - at least twice a day, often more. It's less reliable than my own (home-made) Windows/AMD PC. I think Apples have become less reliable over the past couple of years. The old Performas were almost indestructible. The newer ones seem much less so. There are two things here. The first is that the reason newer Macs are out of the box less stable is that they now have incredibly greater built-in functionality than Performas of years ago had. On any platform, adding features reduces stability. Look what USB did to Windows ;) Objectively, current Macs are far more stable and powerful than older Performas. In fact, from a statistical point of view, the Performa line was the worst line Apple every made if you look at repair histories. That said, any operating system out of the box is bad. Windows, Mac, Linux -- every one can be made significantly more stable with a little knowledge. That sucks for consumers, but that's the way it is. I run NT, OS 9, and OS X, and none of them freezes, because they've all been tweaked a bit. The fact that Alan built his Windows PC leads me to believe that he is quite a bit more proficient with Windows than he is with Mac OS, which could explain why his Windows machine is more stable. As was said earlier on the list, the stability of any operating system is directly related to how much of an expert the user is. Matt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apple gives huge breaks on both software and hardware for schools, studends and teachers. so i would guess that is a lot of the reason, not that they want the students using an os that they will use in the real world ;) First, this is a comment from someone who obviously doesn't know the market. The days of huge breaks for schools, students, and teachers ended years ago. The big break Apple gives schools on a $999 computer? About $50. This is because Apple's hardware is actually price-competitive now, so they don't have the margins to work with that they once did. Heck, Dell gives bigger breaks to schools than Apple does. Second, as for using an os that they will use in the real world, that's a silly concept that has never been a good rule for what platform to use, for three reasons. 1) Studies have shown that *learning* to use a computer is far more important than what operating system is used for that learning; 2) the major applications work exactly the same on all platforms; and 3) technology and operating systems change so fast that a kid using a computer in 6th grade today won't be using anything remotely similar to that computer/OS when he's in the real world. (Heck, Mac OS 7.x and 8 were much closer to Windows 95/98 than Windows 3.1 was... even Microsoft found it easier for people to transition from Mac to Windows 9x than from 3.1 to 9x ;)). Given these facts the best thing for a school to do is buy what is the easiest to teach/learn with, the easiest to support, etc. Some schools find this to be Windows, some Mac. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED
Re: MD: Net MD (slightly OT)
with all this discussion about how crappy different os's are it made me think of something. Peronally i've never read on this list this following statement I cant believe anyone would buy 'Brand X' MD player recorder because it always crashes and totally sucks yeah some of the sharps had a toc error and there were glitches in several of the models but for the most part didn't the flaws in these models get fixed? Not really sure what this has to do with, but it made me think of MD so i posted it I use an Apple in my work as a motorcycle journalist. It's a three-month-old G4 500mhz, with CDRW, 384MB RAM. I normally use it for Word, Outlook, Explorer, Quark and Real Player. It crashes all the time - at least twice a day, often more. It's less reliable than my own (home-made) Windows/AMD PC. I think Apples have become less reliable over the past couple of years. The old Performas were almost indestructible. The newer ones seem much less so. Sorry for the big OT post... Al - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Net MD (slightly OT)
Apple gives huge breaks on both software and hardware for schools, studends and teachers. so i would guess that is a lot of the reason, not that they want the students using an os that they will use in the real world ;) We couldn't understand why the school bought Apples and even the entire system in the school is Apples. Apple must have given them a real break. We were trying to think what is was about Apple that makes some people like Apple so much. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Net MD (slightly OT)
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === Dont take this the wrong way but anymore with the implimentation of burnproof (and whatever else they want to call it) you pretty much need to turn your computer off to create a coaster anymore. Heck i do stuff like this on a daily basis on my 2k machine. The only real difference is i have a nice Fast card in it for capturing video. My HD req's are probably a little higher end than what you would probably need currently. That's too bad Shawn. I've had Macs for many years and my present iMac DV+ does everything I want. It also works beautifully with all my MD equipment through an iMic (USB to analogue converter.) When I look at my few friends with Windows machines, I'm always amazed about the time they need to keep their systems running. (Most of my other friends own Macs!) I own a computer because I want to be productive. I don't want a computer for the sake of maintenance to the OS. I haven't made the step to Mac OS X yet, but I'm very happy about the stability of Mac OS 9.1 and now 9.2. And apart from some latest games, there's nothing you can't do on a Mac that can be done in Windows.The biggest advantage of the Mac OS is of course the flawless application of USB, FireWire and Ethernet. I tested my CD-RW today by recording an audio CD at 12x with Roxio's Toast 5.0. (Files were on my harddisk, I wouldn't risk copying a CD directly this way) While the CD was burning in the background on my Sony FireWire CD-RW I was downloading some songs through LimeWire and my ADSL modem (Ethernet connection) while playing other songs through iTunes and the iMic on my stereo. Everything worked at the same time and no buffer underruns or other problems occurred. I think that was quite an acid test for the stability of Mac OS. This should work on a Windows machine too, but I don't think anyone is going to risk a coaster or a reboot with a test like this:) iMark - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: NET MD
Shawn, actually from what i've been reading it will allow you to go both ways. I could be wrong, but i hope i read it correctly. - Original Message - From: Shawn Lin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 2:22 PM Subject: Re: MD: NET MD t0ner, inc wrote: AM I missing something here? Is NET MD going to allow me to upload my minidisc field recordings to my PC faster? Am I going to have to use my crappy Windoze machine?-- I'd rather use my Mac... No. Net MD works the other way, PC to MD. Not MD to PC. Shawn - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: (Slightly OT) NET MD
actually we were both correct on the transfering of data to the md player from the computer. it appears that sharp's unit only does 16x in lp4 mode, where the sony does 32x(max) in lp4 mode. now what they mean by max i dont know. on another note, there has never been a worm for any os other than Windows? I still stand by my statement that if you know how to set up your system you can make it stable. and that goes for any os. - Original Message - From: Gerard Naude [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 2:11 AM Subject: RE: MD: (Slightly OT) NET MD Just to make this on topic, the sony net-md looks like it will be able to do 8x in sp, 16x in lp2 and 32x in lp4. Sorry, maybe my previous post came out a bit harsh. But I have to say that sure, windows is stable if you are running standard run of the mill hardware. Now throw in a great graphics card, cool sound card, fast motherboards, run some software other than outlook and IE and then cheers windows. That machine won't last long. In it's defence I have to say that Win 2000 is better. Knowing a OS doesn't help. We are a large to medium software company, and we are rapidly moving over to other non windows based solutions. Ever noticed how Mac, Linux and Solaris people sit back and laugh every time a new virus or worm comes out? :-) Anyway, this is no place to discuss the OS scene Cheers. Gerard - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: (Slightly OT) NET MD
one more thing about virii and windows and i should be done. if mac held 90+% of the market they would have most of the virii written for them. same goes for any other os. it's not exploits/bugs as they are in every os. it's just the sheer number of people using this os. if ms only had 4% of the market, well i can guarantee that they wouldn't have the number of virii written for them that they currently do. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: (Slightly OT) NET MD
As per your question here is my answer. I use Mac, Windows, QNX, Solaris, BSD, but my main focus is on windows. Why you ask, well i own a small cunsulting fir and 99.9% of the offices around me use windows. the rest us Solaris and from time to time we run into someone who has a few macs. anyway that's the reason i use it. Plus if you know windows well enough you can get it stable. IMHO that fact is true with any OS. just because you can install something doesn't mean you know how to make it work well. anyway as per the netmd question from what i have read, and i may be way mistaken on this. If mac software is supported it looks like you will be able to transfer to and from your md player in sp mode at 2x, lp2 mode at 4x, and lp4 mode at 16x. Later Matt - Original Message - From: Gerard Naude [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 8:29 AM Subject: RE: MD: (Slightly OT) NET MD How come everybody says how crappy windows is but nobody wants to use something else? I have tried to convert people with no luck. People moan, but never make an effort to try something new :-( Try anything but windows (Linux, Mac, BeOs), or that blue-screen-of-death-security-hole OS is forever going to rule your pc. I admit I still use windoze because i'm forced to still do some things in Visual Basic. But for most programs there are other OS equivalents. Gerard -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of t0ner, inc Sent: 19 September 2001 03:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MD: NET MD AM I missing something here? Is NET MD going to allow me to upload my minidisc field recordings to my PC faster? Am I going to have to use my crappy Windoze machine?-- I'd rather use my Mac... - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: thank you - ear-buds
I would personally, as an American, like to pat our friends abroad on the back for some of the extremely kind gestures they've extended to us. The UK played our National Anthem during or in place of the changing of the guard at Buckingham Palace. I have read or seen instance after instance of other nations' care and concern as well. We are indeed all in this together. I speak on behalf of all Americans when I say thank you. - On an MD note, I'm in the market for ear-buds. I really like the idea of the closed-ear design of the MDR-EX70 line. Could anyone share their experiences with these and what are the differences in the SL and LP types I've seen? Thanks, -Matt - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: about NetMD, can it do SP????
The only thing i can see of that maybe say's otherwise is i believe that in one of the press releases that it said compatible with all older units, so sp should be ok. now if i am wrong then you are correct that sp wont be in there, but i hope i read the release correctly. Seeing the announcement of NetMD really makes me wonder... Having owned the new Sony Clie, I can say with all certainty that the current versions of OpenMG Jukebox don't allow for anything above the 132 kbps ATRAC3 format, and that was with version 2.1... so is version 2.2 (which is what was announced with the MZ-N1) going to add the codec/encoder for the standard 292 kbps ATRAC? I really doubt that personally... So unless I'm missing something, it looks like NetMD transfers may be limited to LP2 and LP4... although I wonder if NetMD will allow transfers at the 105 kbps bitrate (since the OpenMG Jukebox did have that)? LP3 anybody? Not that we'll know for sure in December anyway. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: recent addition to the world of MD
thanks mark. yes, my R700 arrived this past friday and i haven't been able to put it down since. i compiled nearly 5 hours of some comedy albums i have onto one MD in LP4 mode. even though LP4 is only good for such applications, it works perfectly. i am very happy with what i have chosen as a stepping stone into the MD arena. my next step is to replace these worthless headphones. i have my eye on the sony ones you mentioned, the EX70LPs. i noticed etronics.com has them for $39. -matt - Original Message - From: Mark Ligtenstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 7:27 PM Subject: Re: MD: recent addition to the world of MD I really would recommend bying another set of earphones straight away. Especially on public transport, the ambient noises are not filtered at all and the earphones hurt like hell after about an hour. There have been quite a few discussions about earphones in this list, but I'm very happy with my Sony MDR-EX70LP. The ambient noise is diminished in a very significant way and they are very comfortable (the silicone earplugs come in 3 sizes). Good luck with your new machine. Mark - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: idle rambling
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === i could very well be wrong on this, but here is possibly the answer, VCD is a CBR MPEG1 video stream. SVCD is a VBR MPEG2 video stream. and this is the part i'm probably really wrong on but i think that teh MD-Discam is a CBR MPEG2 video stream. if this is the case it explains it fully. I hope i'm right and i hope that helps. - Original Message - From: Howard Chu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 5:53 AM Subject: MD: idle rambling Hey there... I was just reading up on VCD and SVCD tonight (Video CD, SuperVCD) and wondering to myself, why does the Sony MD-Discam only fit 20 minutes of A/V onto a 650MB MD? Of course, I realized that the Discam is using much less compression. But wouldn't it be cool to have an MD-based movie player that played SVCD format? (MPEG2 video compression, up to 95 minutes on 650MB, depending on audio quality...) The VCD web sites I visited talked about a typical setup using 224kbps for audio and the remainder for video, but that using 128kbps audio and leaving more bandwidth for video was a better idea. Makes sense to me. By that logic, even better would be 105kbps ATRAC3 audio... I think the next MD-Walkman needs to be an MPEG2 realtime Video recorder. Just as tape progressed from audio to video, it seems the next logical step for MD. The Discam was an interesting proof of concept but they really need to take it further now, and put an i.Link interface on it... -- Howard Chu Chief Architect, Symas Corp. Director, Highland Sun http://www.symas.com http://highlandsun.com/hyc - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: recent addition to the world of MD
hi folks, i've been reading the list archives for quite some time. i have only recently stepped into the world of MD with the purchase of a MZ-R700DPC portable unit (that's arriving tomorrow mind you!) i have run the gamut of portable music devices, and i suppose i saved the best for last -- MD. after holding off for so long, i finally decided to give it a go, thanks to the decline in price. the advantages of MD are certainly there and they match my needs with near perfection. i've since ditched my previous solutions for a be-all end-all portable music device and i'm anxiously awaiting my R700. i live in the US and i've noticed that places like circuit city are actually showcasing their MD players along with the mp3 players and cd-mp3 players. anyway, i just wanted to introduce myself. i guess i'll round this out with a query of some sort. are there any R700 owners on the list? what are your opinions on this model? -matt - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: . PC-based ATRAC3
i was the one that posted it, i personally use windac, has cddb support and can also rip entire cd's at a time. If you use an optical out with a good sound card on your computer to pretty descent system setup, the difference between mp3 and atrac becomes super big IMHO. however with most headphones and desktop speakers, no matter if they are thx rated or what IMO it's a little more difficult to notice the difference. anyway hope this helps. - Original Message - From: Danny-K [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 3:11 AM Subject: MD: . PC-based ATRAC3 Hello- Someone posted a link to the ATRAC3 codec the other day, so I downloaded and installed it. I've been converting using SoundForge5 and the save-as option. Saving as wav, while selecting the ATRAC3 option with 132 bitrate (105 for online stuff). Anyway. I don't know if it's better than MP3--most would say it is and I wouldn't disagree. But it's a hassle converting tracks one at a time, and I'm wishing for an automated process. I have not been able to find a converter that allows custom codec selection. Everything either converts to MP3 or RA so if anyone knows of a customizable encoder it would be great. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: NetMd technology question
All right since some of us are looking forward to NetMD, I have hopefully a simple yet interesting question. NetMD will be encoded by software (please correct me if i'm wrong). We currently have an ATRAC 3 codec http://www.minidisc.org/mdlpfaq.html (look at number 17) even though the best this will encode from what i understand is lp2 mode. anyway knowing this, will we now be able to encode cd's into atrac and store the atrac files on our computers and also be able to use a codec to play atrac encoded files from our computers? if anyone has any insight on this it would be greatly appreciated. currently i use that atrac codec to both encode and listen to music when i am on a computer because i can tell even on there the diff between atrac at 132 and mp3 at 256 (atrac does a much better job) anywa just some questions that i had. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Hi Fi Audio and computer intelligence
IMHO burners are what you ge is what you pay for i personally will only use Plextor drives. Yeah i pay more, but ya know what, I have yet to have a problem with any of them. anyway just my 2 cents worth. anyway MD still rules in my collection. I've had a lot of horrible problems with CD burners, the kind that make you doubt computer technology as a whole. MD has been comparatively flawless: slow, but rock-solid reliable. And its degradation is reliable: MD will always degrade the sound extremely slightly, while MP3 so far has been very unreliable, as normally used in practice. I could list problems I've had with MP3 and MD, and MP3 has reliability problems, in my experience. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: How can we find more info on Net MD? /Handling ATRAC like CD audio
One other question on an other topic. Does anyone know if it is possible to have a software solution for the PC that would convert Wav or CD audio files to ATRAC? I know that even though CD audio files are really not files (they only show up as 1kb if you check them out with Windows Explorer) it is possible to make them wave files. not sure if this link will answer this part of the question, but here goes. from what i understand you want an atrac encoded file on your hd to use instead of mp3, if this is true, go here http://www.minidisc.org/mdlpfaq.html#listen look at #17 on that page, that is a software atrac3 codec. I personally use this on all my files and use it with windac. sounds a lot better than mp3. once loaded pretty much any application will play the atrac files (which actually end up with .wav extensions) anyway i hope that is what your looking for and good luck - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: . nightingale pro6--user review
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === ok, dumb non md question, if you need more than 2 usb ports, why did you use a usb pci card instead of just getting a usb hub? - Original Message - From: Danny-K [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 2:38 AM Subject: MD: . nightingale pro6--user review Hello- I tried looking for this card in various stores and websites and couldn't find it. Finally found someone selling them new on ebay and I got one. The place was in Canada and it costs me $60 including shipping. Not a bad price for a sound card with optical/digital in/out and DVD/AC3 6.0 sound (which I'm not using right now). Set up was pretty easy. The optical/digital daughter board has some plastic on the right side that made it impossible to put in my computer the way I wanted to. I had to take out my usb card, and one pci slot is now wasted, but I don't have a complaint about that. Don't need more than two usb ports right now anyway. But if you're low on pci slots, you may want to think about this. Basically, the daughter board will only fit when placed to the right of the main card, and can not be placed on the left. You'll probably have to end up putting the daughter board in the last slot, and the main card one above it. This may be good in that the sound card will be far away from the fan and drives in your PC, possibly cutting down on any internal noise. Ran into some problems later with the PC not booting up. Took the card out, and completely disabled the system's built-in sound and put the card back in and presto--no problems. I suggest you disable whatever other sound card/built in sound you have before installing this. You don't have to remove your drivers, just disable them. Somehow, my PC doesn't automatically shut off now which is weird, but it doesn't bother me. I just shut off manually and there aren't any problems with drive-scans during the next bootup. Recording to MD is dead easy with the software that comes with it. Set the pause time between tracks (mine's at 3), compile your files and you're good to go. My computer didn't come with an internal digital cable from the cd-rom to sound card (analog only) so I need to score one of those cables. For now I'm going to go with the rip and copy method instead of copying direct from cd to md. An extra step, but not a big deal with me since ripping is pretty quick anyway. By the way, it comes with an extra long optical cable. I'd say it's around 9 feet. All in all, this is well worth the money. If you've got a crappy sound card in your PC, or are still going with the built-in sound, get this thing. It even has an option to support MDLP recording--it's quite modern. I don't know what's different about that, but maybe it does something to prep the files or something. At any rate, MDLP support is there, and it's obvious from the documentation that they had MD recording in mind when they made this card. The people I ordered it from on ebay were very cool and sent is pretty quickly--CompuGlory out of Toronto. By the way, the latest New Order single Crystal kicks total ass! - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: motherboards
I can' t put it any other way, IT SUCKS! I have a perfectly good scanner that I paid almost $300 for and now if I want to use it I'd have to buy a PCI SCSI card that would cost almost as much as the new scanner cost me. I was hoping when I wrote to tech support (it's Umax) they tell me they were sending me out a card, but instead they e mailed me a list of compatible cards and stated that they were the only ones that would work with the scanner. Larry too bad about umax, a couple things you might want to look at is instead of getting a PCI based scsi card, look into adaptec's usb/scsi adaptor. that way if you want to move your scanner over to another computer or a laptop you still have access to it. anyway it was just an idea. good luck - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: netMD
can anyone translate what is being said on that page about netmd it looks very interesting. - Original Message - From: Wolfgang Buresch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 1:08 PM Subject: MD: netMD Hi, I could be wrong, but is this the first NetMD player/recorder shown at http://mdman.net/md/welcome.htm (on the left side)? actually a cool page, they even show the very old VICTOR XM-D1 http://mdman.net/minidisc/mdr/jvc/xm-d1/ wolfgang - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MD/CD Car Stereo Recommendation
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === Um, well i hope i gave the correct idea. the 800r unit will actually allow you to record music off the radio or if you have a changer record a cd to a md while it's in the changer. it also has a groovy little thing that allows you to set a timer and record a show while your car is off (the face plate doesn't even need to be on for it to do that) but i've not used that function yet. it also has all the editing capabilities and other stuff of a regular mdr. i hope that helps. - Original Message - From: Mike Lastucka [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2001 7:37 PM Subject: Re: MD: MD/CD Car Stereo Recommendation === = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === By this you mean the Sony units interface with CD changers? That's cool. That might be a better thing for me really instead of a hybrid deck. That, and it's probably cheaper in the long run, and more flexible. --- Mike Lastucka, B. Tech [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sites.netscape.net/element5/ 2048 bit DH 0x16DC15CD From: Matt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MD: MD/CD Car Stereo Recommendation Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 16:15:37 -0500 OK, this isn't an all in one unit, but i say look for a last year model of sony's md players and put in a cd changer. i went this route and got a sony 800r which IMO is one of the coolest decks out there (you can record and do all sorts of groovy stuff) but it doesn't do mdlp, but that is of no worry to me. anyway i think jvc has one but i think it is an older model too. good luck. - Original Message - From: Mike Lastucka [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2001 1:30 PM Subject: MD: MD/CD Car Stereo Recommendation Getting a bit away from the whole MP3/MD debate, can anyone on the list recommend a car stereo that plays MDs /and/ CDs? --- Mike Lastucka, B. Tech [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sites.netscape.net/element5/ 2048 bit DH 0x16DC15CD _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: copy protection on cd's
Howdy all, no this isn't the smcs discussion any more it's something even more evil IMHO, i'm curious about this latest trend from our favorite people out there the RIAA http://www.stereophile.com/shownews.cgi?1094 anyway with this being implimented, i'm curious if anyone has ran across one of these cd's and tried to copy it to a md digitally? I have not purchased an audio cd in quite a while since i've not heard anything i like recently so i dont have any with this protection on it. I am mostly curious if it transfers over to the MD in a bad way? what i'm asking is does this distort digital recording also not just people ripping to MP3? and what about on cd/md combo decks that can do 2x and 4x recording (if there are 4x recorderd i forget) anyway if anyone has any info it would be appreciated. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: net md
so i'm curious how many of us are holding out on any new md equipment till netmd arrives? i know i'm one. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: netmd release date
it just occured to me that i didn't remember seeing anything about when netmd was going to be released. anyone have any info on this or did i skip over that section? or will it be like so many other sony promises and become vaporware - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sony Unilink adapter (was: Listening to MD in car)
Rick, yeah the unilink adaptor is exactly what i was thinking of in my reply to this thread too. it has been about a year since i saw it, but there are a couple third party developers out there that have made them. they were a lot less than sony's (from what i remember around $30) I never used one, but know they exist. it's been long enough that they might even have the plans for it out there on the internet somewhere (the developers not sony) anyway hope that helps and if i come across the links to those 3'rd party adaptors i'll let ya know. - Original Message - From: Eric Woudenberg, Minidisc.org Editor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 7:28 AM Subject: MD: Sony Unilink adapter (was: Listening to MD in car) Matt Lum [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a sony receiver that plays CDs. However, it has the capability to have a CD/MD changer hooked up to it. i tried running a cable from the line out of my portable MD to the line in on the deck but it seems like I'm not able to select the line in unless my deck detects that tehre actually is a CD/MD changer hooked up via the other cable that CD/MD changers use. Does anyone know if there is a way to manually switch to the line either in some override mode or using a jumper/simple circuit hooked up to the the cable where the Changers usually hook up? I just want to change the source to the line in but the deck has to detect the stupid changer. I appreciate any help. Thanks. Hi Matt, You'll need the Sony XA107 AUX UNILINK INPUT ACTIVATION available from http://servicesales.sel.sony.com/service/homepage.htm or http://www.tritronicsinc.com/ for $100. I think it is absurd that Sony charges $100 for this part. At that price, a person has to seriously consider whether it wouldn't make more sense to simply buy a CD or MD changer instead -- probably just what Sony has in mind! The adapter cannot be much more than a connector with few resistors and wires. I would love it if someone who purchases this connector could poke around on it with a voltmeter and reverse engineer it. I would be delighted to publish the hobbiest/hacker version of this part on the MDCP. Rick - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Listening to MD in car
I have a sony receiver that plays CDs. However, it has the capability to have a CD/MD changer hooked up to it. i tried running a cable from the line out of my portable MD to the line in on the deck but it seems like I'm not able to select the line in unless my deck detects that tehre actually is a CD/MD changer hooked up via the other cable that CD/MD changers use. Does anyone know if there is a way to manually switch to the line either in some override mode or using a jumper/simple circuit hooked up to the the cable where the Changers usually hook up? I just want to change the source to the line in but the deck has to detect the stupid changer. I appreciate any help. Thanks. Matt - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Listening to MD in car
to do this manually, with a non sony car md/cd changer you need a groovy adaptor from sony. but you can't (from my exp) just plug in a portable player to the rca jacks. it requires a bus controll thingy to allow you to do this. at one time i did see a company besides sony making an adaptor for this but it's been a long time. i hope this helps. - Original Message - From: Matt Lum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 11:41 AM Subject: MD: Listening to MD in car I have a sony receiver that plays CDs. However, it has the capability to have a CD/MD changer hooked up to it. i tried running a cable from the line out of my portable MD to the line in on the deck but it seems like I'm not able to select the line in unless my deck detects that tehre actually is a CD/MD changer hooked up via the other cable that CD/MD changers use. Does anyone know if there is a way to manually switch to the line either in some override mode or using a jumper/simple circuit hooked up to the the cable where the Changers usually hook up? I just want to change the source to the line in but the deck has to detect the stupid changer. I appreciate any help. Thanks. Matt - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MP3 downloading via NetMD
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === wow this netmd thing has really gotten some people all wound up. why dont we just actually wait till some software specs come out instead of an announcement for something. face it no specs except for usb was announced. oh that and that the disks made will work with current products. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 6:07 AM Subject: Re: MD: MP3 downloading via NetMD Memo from John H Rolt of PricewaterhouseCoopers Start of message text Quoting: Dan Frakes [EMAIL PROTECTED] The thing that makes me worry about NetMD is that if the above is true (you need software to do the conversion), MiniDisc will become platform-dependent. That is, in order to be able to use NetMD, you need software written for your computing platform. .. I hope they take their proverbial heads out of their proverbial behinds and make sure that they make this new format/feature available to everyone. Totally. I really want to be able easily to edit my own recordings between MD and the new Mac (the one I intend to get RSN) - and back. Meanwhile (going slightly off-topic into the picture domain), I still have no easy way of transferring still pictures from my (new) Sony camcorder to my (old, non-USB) Mac; the supplied software (Picture Gear Lite) works nicely on Windows but of course not on any Mac. (Anyone know of software which will?). Speaking of which (the camera), you'd think I'd know better after so many burnt fingers (my own included) with 'End Search' on MD - that lovely new camera over-wrote some of our holiday video yesterday because I forgot to press its 'End Search' button. G! Thanks for the fascinating thread. Regards, John - End of message text The principal place of business of PricewaterhouseCoopers and its associate partnerships is 1 Embankment Place, London WC2N 6NN where lists of the partners' names are available for inspection. All partners in the associate partnerships are authorised to conduct business as agents of, and all contracts for services to clients are with, PricewaterhouseCoopers. The UK firm of PricewaterhouseCoopers is authorised by the Institute of Chartered Accountants in England and Wales to carry on investment business. PricewaterhouseCoopers is a member of the world-wide PricewaterhouseCoopers organisation. The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sound cards
I've had several turtle beach cards, liked em all. - Original Message - From: JT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 4:34 AM Subject: MD: Sound cards Hello... Has anyone had experience with the Voyetra Turtle Beach Santa Cruz (what a mouthful! :) sound card? I am fed up with my SB Live and am considering getting this as a replacement (it costs US$70 online). I've read many positive reviews, but I was wondering if any real people could recommend it/tell me any bad points about it/etc If you want specs on it, check out http://www.voyetra-turtle-beach.com/site/products/santacru/specifications.as p Thanks! Josh - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: 700r for 199
Howdy all, i was out at my local target looking to see if they had any tivo's on clearance. anyway they didn't at the store i normally go to, so i asked them to check at the other target's around and they did. they had one left for a cheap price so i went to go get it. on the way out of the store i noticed that the 700r was 249. anyway i got to the store that had the tivo (it was in the gheto) and on my way out i noticed that the r700 there was $199, i asked the guy to do a price check for me and it was $199 there. moral of the story check the target's in the gheto to see if the price is cheaper there. anyway just wanted to let everyone know that it's still priced low at some target's. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MP3 to ATRAC
my guess is that if sony is smart enough to make the usb connector to x-fer files directly from the computer they will make it work with all the codec's on your computer to encode before it copys the files over, kinda like thier music stick stuff works now. i doubt (or at least hope that they dont do the following) just give you a coded so you have to re-enocde them all of your files. but this is all speculation. anyway what i'm waiting for is when they come out with the replacement for my car unit the 800rec that has netmd on it so i can have my laptop sitting there pop the cd into it, plug the usb cord into my head unit, and copy from my laptop while i'm driving..can anyone say accident. hehe i have enough trouble when i have to edit md's now with the 800 while i'm driving. - Original Message - From: I Can Not Tell You [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2001 12:51 AM Subject: Re: MD: MP3 to ATRAC snip Anyway, to make a long story short, the best way to convert from MP3 to ATRAC (or any other compression format, for that matter) is to fully decode MP3 to PCM and then re-encode PCM to the destination format. There are no shortcuts. /snip One word Bummer. But with rate at which the computing power is going. That shouldn't be too much of a trouble. It would just be annoying. Wouldn't it? Hrm...maybe someone will be smart enough to make a special a MP3 to ATRAC converter if NetMD does take off. Wouldn't they? I personally can not wait for NetMD recorders. My two cents. --icantelu - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sony's Net MD - high speed ATRAC download via USB
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === my guess is authentication :P - Original Message - From: Ken Clinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 11:53 AM Subject: Re: MD: Sony's Net MD - high speed ATRAC download via USB Any idea what Net MD can securely transfer music data from an *authenticated* PC hard drive to an *authenticated* Net MD player will involve? -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- You have just read e-mail by Ken Clinger. [EMAIL PROTECTED] You may now resume your previously scheduled life. -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- -*- - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Mironics computer interface
Tim, this may seem like an extreme solution, but in the end it might work out better for ya. if you watch every once and a while someone is selling the sharp MD-X5 unit for $99, yeah it's 20 more than the prefab unit your looking at but it's a md/cd/reciever small bookshelf thing with a ps/2 kb attachment. it works great for titling, plus you can play and recored your md's in it. just another option i thougth you might wanna know about. - Original Message - From: Tim Pitman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 11:12 AM Subject: MD: Mironics computer interface Thanks to those who replied about my track mark insertion query. To overcome the problem of track marks when copying music from the computer, and to enable titling, I have constructed the computer link specified on the Mironics web site http://www.mironics.com It cost about $15 in parts, and now I'm trying to decide whether to try and write my own software, or buy theirs for $80. (I'm in Australia; Au$) Has anyone here used their product who could provide me with some advice? Tim - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: If MDs had come out before CDs
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === I disagree 110%, compared to vhs/beta/HDTV/dang near any new product projections DVD did take off like a bat out of hell. oh yeah i live in the middle of nowhere and there is 7 shops that carry DVD audio recordings around me. guess what nobody is buying them. - Original Message - From: Stainless Steel Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MD-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 10:05 AM Subject: Re: MD: If MDs had come out before CDs * Matt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, 29 May 2001 | i pretty much agree with most of what was said here, another thing that | kidna backs this up is that DVD video took off like a bat out of hell, No, it didn't. DVD-Video went nowhere for three or four years before it ramped up. From a point about two years ago, DVD-Video has grown rapidly, but at a steadilly increasing rate. | but i've yet to see anyone dump thier cd collection to replace it with | DVD audio Ummm... that would be because you can't buy DVD-Audio in the local record shop. -- Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED]\ If Happy Fun Ball begins to smoke, get Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ away immediately. Seek shelter and cover PGP Key: at a key server near you! \ head. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: If MDs had come out before CDs
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === wow i now realize my mistake, how wrong i was. since you said this i went out, gee wiz no video stores carry dvd's to rent, best buy doesn't carry them and has never, gee wizz how could i ever have thought that this technology ever took off in the first place. /sarcasm ok my point was that compared to most technologies this one did take off like a bat out of hell. And with sony/pioneer/philips pushing it i never once saw it failing in any way/shape form. anyway back to md discussion, end this - Original Message - From: Stainless Steel Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MD-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 1:02 PM Subject: Re: MD: If MDs had come out before CDs * Matt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, 29 May 2001 | I disagree 110%, compared to vhs/beta/HDTV/dang near any new product | projections DVD did take off like a bat out of hell. DVD-Video has been around for about five years now. Its growth has mostly been in the past two years. In its first two years of existence, DVD-Video came close to failing outright. The media was expensive and unreliable, the players moreso, and the selection of titles microscopic. And even though its growth in the past two years has been rapid, it has been very steady, not explosive. And it is still well behind its initial projections, which had DVD-Video completely replacing consumer VHS by the end of last year. Yes, DVD-Video has done amazingly well after a very bumpy start, much like CD-Audio. Yes, DVD-Video has the highest adoption rate of any new consumer technology ever, after CD-Audio. In five years, DVD-Video has achieved market penetration almost equivalent to what CD-Audio managed in ten. That is fast, but it is not as explosive as you believe or imply. | oh yeah i live in the middle of nowhere and there is 7 shops that carry | DVD audio recordings around me. guess what nobody is buying them. I live near the Hub of the Universe (Boston, MA) and have yet to see DVD-Audio anywhere other than a few specialty shops, and the selection is both limited and expensive. Maybe you live in one of the test market areas. -- Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED]\ Do not use Happy Fun Ball on concrete. Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ PGP Key: at a key server near you! \ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: If MDs had come out before CDs
Oh my dear god someone said DVD instead of DVD-Video, please don't think I meant DIVX. I actually meant to say that we have this great new format in our area called Viewmaster best buy has all the latest Charlie Chaplin movies in you should check it out. The quality of it is unsurpassed by anything I've seen to date and the audio quality is perfect (mostly because it has none) This DVD-VIDEO you speak of is confusing to me. please do spend more time on explaining to everyone how correct you are in Sony's almost abandonment of it and it's failing because of it's inferiority and the fact that nobody really gives a crap because it did take off like crazy. - Original Message - From: Stainless Steel Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MD-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 6:48 PM Subject: Re: MD: If MDs had come out before CDs * Matt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, 29 May 2001 | wow i now realize my mistake, how wrong i was. since you said this i went | out, gee wiz no video stores carry dvd's to rent, best buy doesn't carry | them and has never, gee wizz how could i ever have thought that this | technology ever took off in the first place. /sarcasm Sherman, set the Wayback Machine to 1998. The place, Suncoast. See any DVD-Video there? Nope. Oh, wait, there are a couple of copies of Starship Troopers sitting there behind the counter collecting dust. And FYI, DVD != DVD-Video. -- Rat [EMAIL PROTECTED]\ Ingredients of Happy Fun Ball include an Minion of Nathan - Nathan says Hi! \ unknown glowing substance which fell to PGP Key: at a key server near you! \ Earth, presumably from outer space. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: no more MD at best buy
Daryl, as i was one of the first to reply this time i'll restate what i said then. it depends on the Best Buy you go to. the best buy's in my areas have several home decks and many portables. i hate to burst your bubble but around here they have yet to eliminate either kind. - Original Message - From: Daryl O. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 8:23 PM Subject: RE: MD: no more MD at best buy I'm just now catching up with my digests, so forgive me for putting in my two cents so late. I was really annoyed to see this stupid thread pop up AGAIN. As I had remarked on this list only three months ago, Best Buy has eliminated minidisc component decks ONLY. Portable players, including two new models, are still planogrammed in their stores. As a veteran of this list (since 1996, when it was on nstn.ca) and a merchandiser who has worked for this company for over six years, I know what I'm talking about, so it irritates me that people insist on ignoring me. It is completely irresponsible to forward such ignorant emails to this list, and I would implore Rick not to do this again. Let's stick to posting *actual* news, okay? If and when Best Buy *really* eliminates minidisc from their product selection, I will tell you guys Daryl - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: no more MD at best buy
OK, here is my prediction. Let's say that MD does go away inside the US. there is still a huge asian market that can not be denied and so if us models go away you will still be able to get units. Places like minidisco will still be around. but here is my actual prediction. with target getting md in stock. best buy around here anyway having the largest selection of MD i've ever seen them have. Circuit City (even though i hate em still for DIVX) still caries at least 3 portable units (around here again) at least 1 car unit and a couple home units. and both the places carry blanks out the wazoo. you aren't going to see MD disappear tomarrow. anyway from recent experience with friends that i've not talked into buying MD over an mp3, all have found MD on thier own because they refuse to dump the cash out for the ram. as for recording, people who really bootleg concerts wont use an MP3 based recorder (i think there is only 1 out right now) they will continue to use DAT and MD. well that's my .02 cents :) - Original Message - From: kip martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 9:44 AM Subject: Re: MD: no more MD at best buy hey is anyone out there predicting MD is in death's throes? anyone on this list (with objectivity) see its demise around the corner? im just curious--im addicted and dont feel like spending $XX.XX on ram for on my cheesy iPaq. and if MD disappears, how will portable recording be handled? little MP3 recorders with mic inputs? inquiring minds want to know! kip martin _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: no more MD at Best Buy
ya know i think this depends on your area, my best buy still has about 5 portable models on display and i know of at least 2 home decks too. but then again this thread pop's up about once every other month too. - Original Message - From: Eric Woudenberg, Minidisc.org Editor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: JohnnyElectron [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 9:28 AM Subject: Re: MD: no more MD at Best Buy Thanks for letting me know. I'm forwarding your note to the MD mailing list. -Rick JohnnyElectron writes: Uggh - Best Buy just eliminated their MiniDisc recorders players! They seem to have a ton of blank discs though. This bites. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sony Laptops
sarcasmwow and to think all this time i thought we were talking about minidisc, guess i was wrong /sarcasm anyway on to md, anyone know if the mdh-10 was the only md data drive released for pc? - Original Message - From: Peter Birley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 6:11 PM Subject: MD: Sony Laptops They have the best original build quality of any laptop I have ever seen (505 and z600 series), but sony my laptop in for repair for six months, and billed me £965 for it!!! the sent it back totaly unrepaired!! In the end I gave up and John Lewis (the shop where I bought it) gave me a powerbook (Firewire G3 - This was about 6 - 7 monts ago) instead (they offered me a replacemnt earler but i wanted that sony back!) - anyway who cares about windows LINUX is much better and it doesen't matter what hardware it runs on check out: computers.cnet.com for info on repairs on sony laptops half an hour will tell you to steer well clear of sony laptops or just get good insurance. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Serious contender for MD
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === i saw a hack site for hd replacement somewhere, it pretty much voids all warrenties if you do this, but if you drop it and ruine it, that's not a big deal. anyway seems like a waste to me still, i can purchase this, then buy a laptop hd, or i can buy a nice md recordable and about a gazillion blank md's (both of which i already have) anyway the price still is high on em, i cant record, and sound still sux. so to me it's not an option, i'd rather take an icepick to my eardrums than listen to another 128 mp3 with clicks every 1/2 second. ok, i just dont like mp3 encoding, if you wanna encode your music library, use the atrac codec that is out there or some loseless compression that is available. - Original Message - From: Shawn Lin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 12:44 AM Subject: Re: MD: Serious contender for MD Churchill, Guy wrote: Shawn Lin wrote: Laptop HD-based MP3 players are nothing new. Here's one that's rather popular with MP3'ers right now... http://www.nomadworld.com/welcome.asp The Nomads are 6Gb too ... but is this replaceable ? The Nomad is kinda large (more like a portable CD player) Do the Nomads have the ability to act as a portable HDD (for any file type?) I do like the ability to record WAV uncompressed at 48Khz .. Nice. Replaceable, yes. Not sure if this is easy or not, I didn't bother downloading instructions since I don't have one. The info on doing the upgrade is available here: http://www.nomadjukebox.net/ I have no idea if they can act as a portable HDD or not. I would think yes, but just guessing here. The bottom line is MD is getting swamped with all these other new technologies and unless they stay on the ball and start adding professional and consumer use requirements (like faster then real time transfers) I believe it will go the way of the dodo (or should I say the Tassie Tiger which there is a small amount of hearsay evidence that it may not be extinct just yet). How many others are starting to feel this way ? I completely agree. MD has already become stagnant. Sony needs to do something. Many companies have dropped MD completely, and I'm sure others will follow if sales don't improve soon. Funny part is, if Sony had been listening to it's early adopters (like the good subscribers to mdl) then they would have had the jump on all these new technologies and truly cemented MD's place in history like Vinyl, Compact Cassette and CD (now DVD) and not considered by the next generation to be just another DCC, DAT, LD, or BETA (all of which have their use, but in the general public's view are dead and buried formats). Very true, I have been suggesting better MP3 to MD integration from the beginning, well before the first portable MP3 player ever came out. PS: I recently came across some old video cassettes that I don't know the history of .. they are huge (50% larger then VHS and really thick) I've never seen a player that can play them ... anyone know something about these? I've only heard of 3/4 U-MATIC cassettes and something Sony had called El-Cassette. I don't remember if El-cassette was audio or video. Could it be one of these? Shawn - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: car md decks and heat
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MD: again car head units and heat
howdy all, i am curious about md car head units, i have a jeep cherokee that i wanna put a md unit into, but am a little afraid. the current cd player get's the cd's kinda hot. do you need to be more careful with a md in dash unit than regular cd player or should i look into getting the 6 md changer instead. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: selector box question
all right this also has probably been discussed, but for those of us who use outhouse express (aka outlook express) what do we need to put our settings at so this group can actually see what we are posting? thanks. on another note, is MDLP worth anything if you like md for the quality and dont care about taking extra blanks with you? except maybe for recording lectures. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 4:51 PM Subject: RE: MD: selector box question === The original message was multipart MIME=== === All non-text parts (attachments) have been removed === - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: headphones
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Re: MD: headphones
sorry again about this stupid e-mail reader, i hate outhouse express anyway here is the original e-mail i tried to send Howdy all, i know this topic has been beat to death in this mailing list, but i have hopefully a simple question that wont get everyone all upset. until recently i had a very nice set of Denon Headphones that i used from time to time when either mixing my music or general stuff and didn't want to listen through speakers. anyway they are not earbuds or the small earphones, they look similar to sony's 700dj series. anyway they got destroyed (nephew thought they would be a cool spinner toy) so i need a new pair. anyone have any suggestions on headphones. 2 major factors in these headphones are 1. how comfortable they are 2. sound any input would be greatly appreciated. - Original Message - From: "Matt Wall" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 10:57 PM Subject: MD: headphones === The original message was multipart MIME=== === All non-text parts (attachments) have been removed === - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Dataplay Digital Format??
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === i reply to one of these about every six months or so and it normally goes like this. most of these products are pretty much vaporware, and if they ever do make it to market it's extremely unlikely they will be extremely popular unless they are supported by either sony/pioneer/other. my point is that about 6 months ago something similar was brought up but that one i think was supposed to hold 1.5gig of data and replace everything and be better than sliced bread. about 6 months before that it was only 700 meg but was smaller. ya know what i've yet to actually see one of these things. that's pretty much my point. - Original Message - From: "payvand" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 9:50 PM Subject: Re: MD: Dataplay Digital Format?? On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering how many others have heard of this new digital format that is scheduled to begin marketing later this year(www.dataplay.com)? I read an article today that indicated that it was going to involve a disc that kind of appears to be like a minidisc, but about the size of a quarter. The disc is supposed to be used in multiple applications(audio, video, ebooks, etc.)and suposedly holds 5 hours of "CD quality" sound on one disc. There are supposed to be blanks that are recordable, but one time only. several major players in the music industry are supposed to be backing this as a new format for pre-recorded music, also. It sounds like a cross between MP3 and MD. I don't know what the technology is that allows for this much data to be stored on the disc. I think they're using different color lasers along with compression. blue lasers have a shorter warelength, and as such, they can read sectors that are closer to each other than red lasers (which most cd/dvd players use). Blue lasers are more expensive than red and I think that's limited their use. My lover told me something about this exact thing a while back. I think I remember something about them having 500meg of space. Obviously, if this is successful, it is a threat to MD as an ongoing format. I'm concerned because, at least from what I've been able to ascertain, it will not have the flexibility in terms of editing and reuse that MDs have. I'm also wondering about sound quality. I don't think we need to worry. Obviously, other digital/optical formats are going to be out there as we move into the future, but MD has been around for too long. And MD is not one-time record, let's not forget that. Still, this new stuff is a cool thing. I have a feeling they'll make some kind of portable thing for kids with it. Toys, or maybe players targeted to the teen market. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Longer than 80 minutes - is it possible?
dont take this the wrong way, but i doubt it will threaten MP3 solutions. most mp3 zealots will still want to be able to put thier mp3 files on md media, mind you not convert them to atrac, but have them there just as an mp3. IMO people are just too stupid to see a good thing. on the bright side MD does have a good solid base and is not going to just go away. - Original Message - From: "Simon Mackay" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "MiniDisc Mailing List (E-mail)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 2:22 AM Subject: MD: Longer than 80 minutes - is it possible? Hi everyone! Is it possible within the MD standard to make discs that go longer than 80 minutes in SP mode by tightening the "pre-groove" spiral on the disc? This could be interesting because I have heard a rumour being passed amongst retailers that there could be 90-minute MDs on the market. If the rumour proves true and someone starts to manufacture 90-minute MDs, you could have discs that go for 3 hours in mono or LP2 stereo or 6 hours in LP4 joint stereo. This would be enough to threaten Audio CD-R and most solid-state MP3-carrying media. With regards, Simon Mackay - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Hitachi DVD camcorder, USB
ok, not a lot of compatibility, but it's still a pretty cool idea, once they come up with drivers for it, it looks like a nice camera. - Original Message - From: "Howard Chu" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 2:50 PM Subject: MD: Hitachi DVD camcorder, USB Just saw the announcement of the Hitachi on www.minidisc.org. If you go read the FAQ on the Hitachi web site, you come across a couple interesting items: the PC interface is USB, not Firewire. Check out all the limitations in the "PC and Software" section. So much for USB's Plug'n'Play capability. Bletch. Too bad, it sounds like a really cool still camera... -- Howard Chu Chief Architect, Symas Corp. Director, Highland Sun http://www.symas.com http://highlandsun.com/hyc - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: mp3's on MD (was confused about something)
as for playing the cd, the only player i know of that doesn't use windows stuff is linux and there might be one for bsd too, they have a cd player that actually reads the track instead of controlling the sound card. anyway i still say that using minidisc media to hold raw mp3 files is just a stupid idea. lots of stuff cut , and sending though the passthrough in your sound card. no, winamp does the same thing: control your cd player. you can set it to "sample" from the soundcard, but that just means that the oscilloscope works from the cd-audio; the sounds coming out are the same as with the windows cd player. peter - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: kinda confused about some stuff
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MD: kinda confused about something
Howdy all, recently i posted to this mailing list about the atrac codec that was out there and how i thought that it might be neat if they integrated it into both solid state players and portable cd players. I got many responses that completely confused me in every respect. in almost every case the response was to the fact that they wanted to store mp3's on a MD because the media was cool. OK i agree 100% that the media format is cool and i personally love it. but the part i dont get is that an MP3 at 128k is fairly close in size to ATRAC3 at 132k. now knowing this the only thing that mp3 would give you on a minidisc is crappy sound. I'm not sure if people dont get the fact that MD medium does not hold the 650 meg that cd's do or the fact that they just like music that sounds like crap. anyway if anyone can answer why you would want to put mp3's on a minidisc for storage instead of atrac on a medium that can hold a little more (dont get me wrong i love the md format and use it for exercising all the time, plus on my home stero too) anyway hopefully someone can explain this to me. thanks sorry about that last msg for some reason my test is getting deleted on first send - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Hello , I have a few questions:
well long play depends on you. if you like MP3's, long play is great. if you think mp3's lack all quality whatsoever and pretty much do not use them except in extreme cases where you can not find the original, then lp probably isn't what your looking for. as for "best" that's one that nobody can answer, you should ask "what might be the most appropriate recorder/player for my situtation" and then give the parameters or your search, that would help out more than best. - Original Message - From: "Lion Shmulevich" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "MD list" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2001 8:21 AM Subject: MD: Hello , I have a few questions: Hello , I have a few questions: 1) Which is the best MD now availabale? (I thought of the sony mz-r90) 2) I heard that the MDLP system is not so good. I mean the sound quality in LP-2/4, is it true? 3) What is the best price for the sony mz-r90 (I found it for 197.95$, is there anywhere less?) thank you. Lion Shmulevich, == E-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel : +972-3-917799 (051-917799) - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: portable solid state players
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Re: MD: portable solid state players
did any of my original msg come through? thanks matt - Original Message - From: "Matt Wall" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 8:42 PM Subject: MD: portable solid state players === The original message was multipart MIME=== === All non-text parts (attachments) have been removed === - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: portable solid state players
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === well hopefully it will make it this time :P ok i was thinking today (for a change) and thought of something that might be considered a novel idea. a lot of the newer solid state players are not just mp3 they are wma/mp3/etc... format playable players. i believe even some of the cd players are that way too. what i would like to see is one of these incorperate the atrac codec into thier players. think about it, it's what most of us have been wanting all along, something that does sound good (atrac) and a larger medium of storage. I for one would enjoy seeing something like this come into reality. anyway it's a thought that will probably upset people on both sides of the arguement so argue away kids. - Original Message - From: "Robert J Lynn Jr" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 9:46 PM Subject: Re: MD: portable solid state players Not a thing came through. - Original Message - From: "Matt Wall" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 9:24 PM Subject: Re: MD: portable solid state players did any of my original msg come through? thanks matt - Original Message - From: "Matt Wall" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 8:42 PM Subject: MD: portable solid state players === The original message was multipart MIME=== === All non-text parts (attachments) have been removed === - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: ATRAC Codec
OK so sony wrote this, does this mean according to this url http://www.minidisc.org/mdlpfaq.html#listen that they have now written 2, one for atrac3, an older version which for some reason they abandoned, and another newer one, from which they pretty much changed the header, and i would guess implimented smdi into it. Please either verify this or tell me where i'm wrong. i'm trying to figure it out. anyway's thanks for the info to all. - Original Message - From: "Peter Jaques" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 8:04 PM Subject: Re: MD: ATRAC Codec On 19 Feb 01, 11:25PM, Matt Wall wrote: First off whoever wrote this codec, bravo to you. I love it and so far = sony wrote it. in this version, at least, there's no way to go above 132kbps. peter - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: ATRAC Codec
=== The original message was multipart MIME=== === All non-text parts (attachments) have been removed === First off whoever wrote this codec, bravo to you. I love it and so far = i know about 10 people who have completely switched from MP3 over to = ATRAC for archiving thier music. now IMO and most of the people i've = talked to ATRAC at 132 does a better job than MP3 at 320. The ATRAC = codec allowes for 3 different settings 66/105/132, i was curious if = whomever wrote this would know if it's possible to bump it up to 190 or = 256, i really dont know if you would gain anything by doing this, but = it would be neat to see. === MIME part removed : text/html; === - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MD and Best Buy
anyone who works at best buy, no offense to anyone but i dont believe anything any of them say any more since recently purchasing a DVD audio player and when going to best buy asking a kid if they carried DVD-audio was told they will never carry it. then i asked to talk to a manager, the regional manager was in the store at the time and he informed me that they aren't going to carry dvd audio and will never carry it, even though they have a player in stock. so imo all best buy employees are about as stupid as you can get. just my 2 cents. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 7:29 PM Subject: Re: MD: MD and Best Buy Daryl O wrote: Hi, guys ... I'm a merchandiser at Best Buy Daryl, just how bad is MD doing at Best Buy? Does it sell at all or not enough to meet a stocking requirement? Some sales people act like they didn't even know the store carried MD or what it is. I was asking some questions to a sales girl at Circuit City about six months ago when I was looking at a Sony deck and she had no idea what I was talking about. And I mean NO idea. Glenn - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: The far horizon of MP3 storage
OK, first off this is my 2.5 cents. anyone who actually thinks this business about ibm and the nazi's is really about how evil ibm is for working with the nazi's douring the war needs to wake up in columbia and smell the so called coffee. it's about the that ibm has. someone found out ibm existed douring the war and was in germany...HEY LET'S SEE HOW MUCH $ WE CAN GET FROM THEM THROUGH THE COURTS! I personally blame it on the trial lawyers, no more no less. yes hitler/nazi's were/are still evil, no doubt about that, yes we sould remember the past so it doesn't happen again, but if you think this is about anything except money then your wrong. On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, las wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The news is that IBM found out what those purposes were yet continued to deal with the Third Reich. If that turns out to be true, you have to acknowledge that it makes a difference. lot's of stuff about the war cut out. Nor should a tool maker be punished for the methods that a customer used to employ the tool. Besides, IBM hasn't done anything to help promote the Mini Disc. True. They haven't done anything to help promote OS/2, either. G - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Best buy, phasing out MD equip ??
I dont know what encoder your using, but personally i can still hear a difference between 192 and an original CD, espeically with horns and extremely tight low's. yes i've tried many different encoders and i havn't found one that doesn't do this. also i run both through a pretty good system to test this theory. pioneer elite cd player, Rotel Amp's, BW nautilus speakers, Marantz Preamp, Maudio DIO 2496 sound card. if you dont like that equipment your too big of an audio snob and you shouldn't be even thinking of MD or MP3 :P - Original Message - From: "Don Capps" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 12:55 PM Subject: Re: MD: Best buy, phasing out MD equip ?? From: "las" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I disagree about the quality of MP3s and seriously doubt that you can tell the difference between an MP3 recorded at the "standard" 128 and 192Kbps. All you are doing is using up more disc space. You can disagree all you like Larry. But in AB comparison where A is the original cd and B is a 192kbps mp3 file, the file is sonically indistinguishable from the original cd. That was my point. And yes, that is on a high quality playback system. My Turtle Beach soundcard has RCA stereo outputs being fed to a Denon integrated amp driving Mission speakers and an old MK sub which I retired a few years back from my main home theater system. Don C. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Best buy, phasing out MD equip ??
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === sarcasm yeah i wouldn't know the difference, but then again i lost my hearing douring the war too /sarcasm - Original Message - From: "Don Capps" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 4:54 PM Subject: Re: MD: Best buy, phasing out MD equip ?? From: "Dan Frakes" [EMAIL PROTECTED] You have to buy a computer, a CD burner, the Expanium, and some discs just to start using it. Easily over $1000 for an entry-level machine, closer to $2000 for a good system. Well Dan. You got me. I know when I've been licked. Darn. You do have to have a computer. You do have to have a CD burner and some CD-R or CD-RW media. Seriously now. Do you have a computer? OK. Then you're almost there. Do you have a CD burner? They're getting pretty cheap of late ya know. At that point, 50 cents for 4-10 hours of music (of inferior sound quality)... Here's where we part company. You would never now the difference between my Expanium playing MP3 files and my Expanium playing the original CD. I guarantee it. Inferior sound quality? Nope. Not at all. But then, don't believe me. Just burn a CD full of MP3s and borrow an Expanium...maybe a Circuit City store demo model...and listen for yourself. Don C. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Some food for thought/fuel for discussion...
one question i've not heard this question asked. you said you heard no quality difference. well are you listening to the audio using the same sound setup? i mean it can even sound better if his puter has an old sb 16 sound card and he is using some generic desktop speakers that dont sound good, but after encoding them twice and put's them on cd or md plays it on a very nice stero system, yes it's going to sound better there than on the computer just becuase of the simple dynamics of what each can handle. so as for the quality sounding better who know's everyone hears different anyways :) - Original Message - From: "David W. Tamkin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 12:36 PM Subject: Re: MD: Some food for thought/fuel for discussion... Don asked, | You're telling me that compressing the file twice doesn't effect the audio | quality? Not sure I'm getting you here. No, I'm saying that a cumulative effect does exist, but it is not as great as what you'll expect if you multiply compression ratios. Putting audio through 10:1 MP3 compression and the MP3 output through 5:1 ATRAC compression sounds worse than the MP3 file, but it would not be as bad as 50:1 compression. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: USB question
yes i know the answer as i've dealt with this before. you have to get an ABIT specific usb header usb connector. they really didn't use anything standard and so they used thier own thing. anyway you have to get a usb thing that is abit specific. go to your local computer shop (non best buy) and ask them, if they dont know, then look for it on pricewatch.com. hope that helps. - Original Message - From: "J. Coon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 12:02 AM Subject: MD: USB question I just picked up a 2 port USB connector for my computer. The motherboard is an ABIT PX5 and it says it has USB on it. It shows up in the device manager as working properly. However, the header pins it has for it show a 2 pin wide 16 pin header. the usb socket has two 5 pin plugs. Anyone got any ides on how to connect it? The ABIT site is for the birds...The have a newer version of the manual, but the link to it is bad. -- Jim Coon Not just another pretty mandolin picker. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] If Gibson made cars, would they sound so sweet? My first web page http://www.tir.com/~liteways - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Best buy, phasing out MD equip ??
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === as for there not being much stuff at best buy, my local best buy has 5 different portable ones, and at least 3 different home units. a ton of blanks, and many md wallet's. - Original Message - From: "Donald Person" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "MiniDisc List" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 10:54 AM Subject: MD: Best buy, phasing out MD equip ?? Well everyone -- I think we're fighting a losing battle. While I personally love MD, I think it's dying out here in the US. The manufacturers didn't do enough in the advertising department to begin with, and now many manufacturers are pulling out of MD all together! Can you believe blank cassettes STILL out-sell MD's and even CD-R's ??? Don't these people realize that MD is the ONLY replacement for cassette because of the ease-of-use and re-recordability?? (But all of us know that already.) Anyhow -- I went to BestBuy last week. Their MD equipment line has been reduced to practically nothing. I saw a couple of Sony MD bundles and a Sharp portable.. THAT'S IT!! I was very disappointed, and decided to just buy blanks and a new MD wallet. Walked to the aisle with blank CD's and cassettes and there they were: A VERY SMALL and OVERPRICED selection of blank MiniDiscs. I just bought a 10-pack and went searchng for the wallet. It seems that Best Buy was out of stock of the MD wallets... And had been for 5 months. They never re-ordered them. I asked if I could make an order request if I purchased so many of the wallets, and they told me: " All re-stocking is computer generated. The computer hasn't re-ordered the wallets, and I don't know when we're getting any more in.." That's it !!! This is so bloody ridiculous!! MD is far better than CD-R or CD-RW! Now there are NO stores in the Albany, NY area that carry a good selection!! Should I give up on the format or what? I don't want to, because it's so handy to have a portable digital recorder.. BUT what can I do if they stop selling the good stuff?? Anyone else having this problem?? -Don - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: atrac encoding software
=== The original message was multipart MIME=== === All non-text parts (attachments) have been removed === All right i've asked this several times before and never gotten a = response. or at least one has never reached my e-mail from the list that = i can figure. anyway is there atrac software besides the MG software = that you have to own one of sony's mem stick things, and that of the old = at3conv? i have at3conv, i like it, but the problem of it is that it = doesn't have any features of today's encoders. there are many plugin's = for atrac3 files to be played in computers via real player 8, ms's media = player now supports it via a plugin etc is there an actual user = friendly software package out there that will do this? === MIME part removed : text/html; === - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Panasonic MDLP recorder.
Does anyone know if panasonic is going to release an MDLP portable recorder? If so, when is it due out? Matt - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: car md setup?
=== The original message was multipart MIME=== === All non-text parts (attachments) have been removed === Howdy all, here is hopefully a simple question, which would most = consider a better setup for a car, a sony cd head unit and use thier md = changer or the r8000 and a cd changer? === MIME part removed : text/html; === - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: atrac 3 software encoder
=== The original message was multipart MIME=== === All non-text parts (attachments) have been removed === all right there is the at3conv that does 1 song at a time, there is = sony's musicbox mg, and there is a plugin for your windows media player = for atrac3 files. anyone know of something other than sony's musicbox = mg that will encode to atrac 3 files as a plugin, something similar to = using it in audiograbber. so i can basically use cddb and all the other = groovy stuff to rip directly from my cd's. any help is appreciated. === MIME part removed : text/html; === - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: lossless compression
2 lossless audio compression's i've heard of http://www.monkeysaudio.com/ http://www-ft.ee.tu-berlin.de/~liebchen/lpac.html i hope this is what your looking for - Original Message - From: "JT" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "MDList" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2001 5:11 PM Subject: Re: MD: lossless compression On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, David W. Tamkin wrote: There is another that I heard of, but I can't remember its name, and I never did know where to find out about it. Monkey Audio. Not sure of the website ATM. Josh - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: mp3.com
=== The original message was multipart MIME=== === All non-text parts (attachments) have been removed === dont know if anyone has mentioned this yet or not, so if they have, = sorry. i was visiting mp3.com and clicked on mp3 hardware, and wouldn't = you know it they had a voquette media manager and it's hooked up to a = sharp md player. good to see that the two formats are existing in a = little better fashion than most/a lot of us originally thought. === MIME part removed : text/html; === - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Which to sell?
just from reading, i would say you will probably get more $$$ from the r50, but if you do a lot of recording, also from reading i say keep the r50. i'd say get rid of the 722, but that's just my opinion. - Original Message - From: "Dan Frakes" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "MDList" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 5:13 PM Subject: MD: Which to sell? I have a Sony MZ-R50 in perfect condition and a Sharp MS-722 that is only about 6 months old (also in perfect condition). I am planning on selling one of them and getting an MR-R90 because of its size. I like various features on both of them, and I'm not sure which to get rid of! Suggestions and advice are appreciated. Any reason I should keep one over the other? - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: What is Sony thinking?!?
this kinda has to do with this subject, but only a little. last evening we had some nasty snowy weather here and our power was out for about 10 hrs. right after it went out i decided, since i was wide awake, to listen to some music, i got out my trusty portable MD player and started to listen to it. just laying there i realized one super major bigtime realization(ok well maybe it isn't so bigtime) if you are listening to MD on a portable that has been digitally copied, IMO you can not tell the difference between the original and the copy, at least on sub $150 headphones or any earbuds. However just the opposite can be stated about MP3's, i can be listening with crappy $0.99 earphones and definately tell the difference between the original and the copy. Anyway i got that out of my system, i love my MD players and i've converted many people over from getting portable MP3 players to getting MD players, after they realize how much media costs for mp3 players and how bad they exactly sound they realize how big of a piece of crap they are. Hopefully some day there will be a good solid state solution that has no or extremely little cd loss with high compression, but until that time comes i'm sticking with MD. - Original Message - From: "chaulsr" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 9:03 AM Subject: RE: MD: What is Sony thinking?!? From what I observed Sony had changed the way it market MD in the past 2 years. When I first saw MD about 10 years ago, it advertised as Compact, Digital Audio, Near CD sound quality, and most important, Recordable/Editable. As that time Sony is targetting the audio tape, so that make sense for all that claims. And MD does a good job and take over most of the market from audio tape. But what happened in recent years is the new MP3 format which started with a software only implementation and later got hardware implemented, plus the advancement of memory technology which end up a price drop. So a MP3 player make sense and most computer users can easily produce/collect their own MP3 collections. So we now see Sony kindly offer us USB connection and MDLP which extended the fantasy of MD. I guess that's toward the Computer users rather than the audio market. And last, personally I prefer MD. It's easy to record, I just snap in a CD and a MD then press several buttons. For MP3, I need to go through all those softwares and have to spare my computer. And for the long run, MD should be cheaper. Just my 2 cents. Raymond How can the folks at Sony be so thick-headed? The Fall 2000 issue of Sony Style magazine advises us to connect the USB PCLink to our computers to "record mixes to your MD recorder with almost no loss in sound quality." To further reinforce their contention that MD doesn't sound as good as it could, they go on to advertise their MDW-80D premium discs as being constructed in a way that "reduces vibrations during disc rotation to produce even better sound." While MP3 advocates crow about their "near CD sound quality," Sony seems to want to warn people that Minidisc doesn't really sound that good. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 3:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: md-l-mimedigest V2 #829 Message: md-l-mimedigest V2 #829 (530 bytes) - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] === s K O q l l c http://sinamail.sina.com.hk Y U SinaTicker http://sinaticker.sina.com.hk === s K O q l l c http://sinamail.sina.com.hk Y U SinaTicker http://sinaticker.sina.com.hk - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Sony ATRAC3 software
I dl'ed the player a long time ago and some samples, was too lazy or something at the time to register to get the encoder, it really wouldn't have mattered anyway because the player expired a while back. i still have it and if i set my computer's clock back a few years it appears to work. IMO it sounds pretty good (a lot better than mp3) but i really dont know what good a player is that you have to turn back your clock to get it to work. if there is sufficent requests for this thing and someone want's to put it up on thier web site along with the samples i got too i'd be happy to give it to them. Later Matt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Brent Harding" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 8:01 PM Subject: Re: MD: Sony ATRAC3 software === = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === I'd like to try this too, if the encoder was free, I'd like to play with it, compare it to mp3's I already have, if I like it good enough, and winamp had a pluggin, I'd switch to it. At 03:22 PM 12/8/00 -0800, you wrote: In the 9/9 1999 entry of "News" on the minidisc.org site is a note: : Bryan Mo discovers Sony's ATRAC3 page featuring a downloadable player and song clips encoded at various bit rates (you can also register to get an encoder). Did anyone download this software? Going to the page now says "these contents are under construction" and there nothing available to download. If you saw this early on and got a copy, can you please send it to me? Thanks. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Lens Cleaners
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === why should you not use a md lens cleaner as a maintenance thing? i've never used one yet but am curious so i dont go doing something stupid. thanks - Original Message - From: "Tony Antoniou" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 9:14 PM Subject: RE: MD: Lens Cleaners I agree there dude. Only use it when it needs to be. Not as a regular maintenance thing. Adios, LarZ --- TAMA - The Strongest Name in Drums --- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of J. Coon Sent: Saturday, 2 December 2000 9:20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MD: Lens Cleaners I say don't clean it unless it doesn't work right. Leave the lens cleaners on the shelf at the store. IMHO of course. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: minidisc TOC interesting read
=== The original message was multipart MIME=== === All non-text parts (attachments) have been removed === howdy all today i was looking for some utilities and i came across this = url http://kt.linuxcare.com/kernel-traffic/kt19990907_33.epl#8 it's just a short little read on minidisc file systems, thought some of = you might be interested in it. Later Matt === MIME part removed : text/html; === - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: RF Car MD Changer?
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === i know sony has a md changer unit, i believe you can get an rf attachment for it (i could be wrong on this). anyway it's a place to start. - Original Message - From: "John Salomone" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2000 4:37 PM Subject: MD: RF Car MD Changer? Hi all, Does anyone know if such a thing exists? I recently purchased one of the new Acura SUVs, the MDX, and the factory stereo is very much tied to the whole functionality and asthetics of the dashboard. The factory cassette/cd in dash player is double-sized, and there are controls mounted on the steering wheel. I don't want to change the appearance of the dash or lose the functionality of the steering whell controls, but for the last two years I have been anticipating installing an MD player in the new vehicle I knew I would purchase. Now that I bought this new fancy ride, it's killing me that I won't be able to have the MD option in it. There are plenty of CD RF (radio frequency) changers--you know, the kind that you tune in to on an unused frequency of your factory radio. But I haven't been able to find any evidence that MD RF changers exist. And if they don't, does anyone know of any plans for one in the future? How about some other workaround besides a portable MD player and a cassette adapter? Thanks in advance, John _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: atrac3
is there one freely available besides buying a sony notebook? thanks in advance - Original Message - From: "Kenneth Lee" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "MD List" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 2:54 PM Subject: MD: atrac3 I've just bought myself the Sony notebook SR17K. and it come with a software called OpenMG which are used with the Memory Stick slot for music. One of it's function is to encode music into ATRAC3. Maybe this is what we are talking about!? __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://calendar.yahoo.com/ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: ATRAC3, MD DATA, MDLP
where is this readily available software available from? url's anyone? thanks matt - Original Message - From: "Howard Chu" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 5:21 PM Subject: MD: ATRAC3, MD DATA, MDLP Now that there's readily available software for encoding music into ATRAC3, has anyone used their MD DATA drive to write an MD DATA disc that's playable in an MDLP player? -- Howard Chu Chief Architect, Symas Corp. Director, Highland Sun http://www.symas.com http://highlandsun.com/hyc - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MD Player $50.00, free shipping
Howdy all, just wanted everyone to know something about this. I like a lot went to the web site and saw it saying no longer taking orders. I decided to print out this page and take it to my local best buy. after about 15 minutes of not to bright employees trying to figure out if they could accept web prices they finally said ok. i decided to get one mostly because i exercise a lot and i really dont wanna trash a $250 md recorder when i'm exercising. so i purchased the unit, it's what i thought i would get for a sub $100 unit, but i'm very happy that i got it, this way if i'm riding/running/climbing/other and it drop's and die's, it's a great unit for the price IMO. anyway i just thought i should let you all know that if you wanted one of these depending on if you best buy want's to sell it to you for that web price. it's definately worth the trip. anyway for those who didn't get one online, there is still a chanch to get it. - Original Message - From: "Shawn Lin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 7:59 PM Subject: MD: MD Player $50.00, free shipping The price is right... http://www.bestbuy.com/Detail.asp?m=58cat=61scat=248e=11000156 Now if they can only get the price of car audio and recorders similarly as reasonable. Shawn 1stUp.com - Free the Web Get your free Internet access at http://www.1stUp.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: md-l-digest V2 #806
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === james, something that you might think about if you have the drive space. convert the mp3's to wav and use fireburner under windows. there are several free/shareware cdr programs that will work at 1x or full speed, they dont have all the groovy options that the others do, but they are worth looking into. - Original Message - From: "James Jarvie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 9:40 AM Subject: Re: MD: md-l-digest V2 #806 Rat, thanks for the reply. Well, if you're willing to go the Linux/FreeBSD route, you can use cdrecord, cdrdao, or xcdroast. Can't do that...I don't know anything about Linux. Have to stick with what I know, since I have precious little time to play as it is. If you are going to stick with Windows then none of the good ones are free, but both CDRWIN and Nero are excelent products and cost around $50 each. I'm not adverse to spending $50 on software. I won't spend much more that that, because I don't expect to use it too ofter - I have a MD recorder you know. Recent versions of xcdroast and both of the Windows programs can skip the image creation step. But I do not know if your machine is fast enough to write discs if you do that. You're probably right. Wish I could upgrade. Just for info, how fast a machine would be needed? And FWIW, an el cheapo Pentium III machine can be had for less than $400. Now that just rubs salt in the wound. My wife would shoot be if I bought another computer. And I can't really justify it, since I use it primarily for cataloguing baseball cards, and it's perfectly fine for that. James __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Music and Computer adapters
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === here is an idea if you have a digital sound card. digitally extract the sound files from the cd to wav format on your hd. then either play them through something like winamp (which if you play them all without pauses the track marks should be gone) or put them all into one big file with your favorite audio editor then record it digitally to you md? Just an idea. - Original Message - From: "Commun" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 2:08 PM Subject: Re: MD: Music and Computer adapters The auto track-mark feature avalaible on digital connections is very useful but there's a drawback sometimes. I bought the CD "The Corrs MTV Unplugged" and I decided to make a copy of it on MiniDisc. The first copy was digital. Nothing to say on sound quality but there was something unpleasant: due to the auto track-mark function: the songs ended abruptely. This was all the more unpleasant that this album is a live album so you hear the band and the audience between the songs. So I erased this copy and decided to make an analog copy with my Sony deck MDS-JE530. Thanks to ATRAC-R and the ability to set line input level, this copy is as good as the CD and maybe more pleasant to listen than the first (digital) copy whose sound level was a bit too high for me. Richard Lang a *crit : Why is an optical or digital coax interconnect between your CD player and MD recorder better than analog? Less noise on the line, and you eliminate the DAC-ADC-DAC conversions along the way. plus you get the track marks from the CD placed on your MD automatically. Richard Lang Solicitor Duncan Cotterill Christchurch, New Zealand email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: (++64)-3-379-2430 fax: (++64)-3-379-7097 http://www.duncancotterill.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: ATRAC3 on PC
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === someone correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't the sony pen looking thing actually use atrac 3 for it's audio format? so were almost there if you really wanna look at it that way. personally i want an atrac encoder/player for my computer, i hate mp3's but i think that atrac would rock to fill up a 45 gig drive with my cd's for a jukebox. similar to what people are doing with mp3's but atrac would actually sound good :) - Original Message - From: "Nicolas Verroit" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "MD-L" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 2:36 PM Subject: MD: ATRAC3 on PC Hello guys, I don't think I've seen that information on the mailing list so I give it to you : Real Player (more specifically Real Jukebox) has now a Add-on that allows it to use Atrac3 to compress the audio files. reference ZDnet (only in French, sorry... but I'm sur we can find it in English.) http://www.zdnet.fr/actu/tech/a0016541.html?nl=zdnews the Add-on is not available immediately after download. You must first have real jukebox 8 and after update it. imagine the futur world : encoding (6x at least) plus CDDB upload to minidisc et voila (OK, OK, we're not there yet but if sony would make a walkman using MD instead of Memory Stick and with the same functionnalities, that could make the big thing that is missing to MD world) Can't wait to see that ! Nico (owner of a MDS-S38 for 4 years without any problem !) - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
