Re: [MBZ] car of birth year

2005-08-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

240D, 300D, 300SD, 300TD, 300CD, 450SEL, 450SL, 450SLC

Sunil Hari wrote:


What was a good Benz in 1980?

On 8/25/05, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Acually, though, I'm very happy with my '87 showroom 300D.  '34 540k not
very likely.

Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] cars from the years of our births

2005-08-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

Ok swine, list the cars you own, I seem to have lost track.

Steve MacSween wrote:


I have a 1960 220s, which is only one year too young.

Mac

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Re: [MBZ] wierd SDL charging problem

2005-08-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea, I have not messed with electrical crap in a while so I wanted to 
reconfirm my suppositions.


Dave M. wrote:


I was kind of surprised Kaleb even asked the original question. :p
This is a classic case of a flaky alternator. Most likely just the
regulator needs replacing.

If you do opt to change the alternator, might as well get a 100A+ unit
instead of the anemic stock 70A (which has rather poor output at
idle). I have a nearly-new 115A alternator for sale from my E500 if
anyone wants it (I upgraded to a 150A). It will bolt up to any MB
engine from 1984-up with a serpentine belt.


=)

-Dave M.



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Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 13:44:54 -0500
From: Potter, Tom  E [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] wierd SDL charging problem.


I agree with Peter. I had the same thing happen to me.

Thomas E. Potter
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Fax: (713) 215-2551
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] wierd SDL charging problem.


The brushes are worn out on the voltage regulator.  Get a new one, pull
the splash pan, remove the old one (two screws) put  the new one in,
problem goes away.

You must have at least 13.5 V at max load above 1200 rpm to charge the
battery. This is a common problem -- you have about 200,000 miles, right?


Peter



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Re: [MBZ] DallasCar list -- SD, SL, D

2005-08-26 Thread Mitch Haley
 Rich Thomas wrote:
 1974   Mercedes Benz   Red 10704412021207

A red SL with chalky paint and likely fuel system issues?
Dare I say FrankenBenz?
http://www.texascarsforkids.org/details.asp?CarId=6228vType=1



Re: [MBZ] Topsider (where to buy, what to get)

2005-08-26 Thread ned kleinhenz
Rich:
And I'll bet you paid more for that Bottle of Sam's Ale than you did
for that oil sucker.

Ned



Re: [MBZ] wierd SDL charging problem.

2005-08-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin



Richard Smith wrote:


My cable died right after I started typing this. Just got it back.
Sorry about that.

Thought it might have been that seat relay giving you problems. Other
than that I dont have a clue. Although with the car off it should on
draw about .1 to .2 amp. Might be worth checking to see if something
else has started draining the battery.


I suspect its the voltage regulator anyways.  Im pretty dumb about how 
to figure out what is drawing what though.




I had a pretty bad motorcycle wreak in June. Got real lucky that it
did not kill me. I am OK although my head was pretty scrambled up
until a few weeks ago from a really bad concusion. Good thing the
doctor told me it could be 3 months before my head got right again.
Otherwise I would have thought I had brain damage or something. My
thinking is getting close to normal, but not all the way back yet.


That sucks, glad you are OK though.


On 8/24/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


WOW, where did you run off too?  Yes, it is actually.  Its a very
strange car indeed.  The cracked head seems to have cured itself for the
time being.  Im quite sure that is only temporary though.

On the charging problem, yes,  its your old car.  The relay for the
seats is unplugged so thats not it, or shouldnt be anyways.  Needing to
hurry up and get the euro project done so I can take this car off the
road to give it a going thru.

Richard Smith wrote:



Kaleb, is that my old SDL?

On 8/24/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



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Re: [MBZ] car of birth year

2005-08-26 Thread Mitch Haley
Kevin wrote:
 80 was also the first year of the eagle, which is a whole other can of 
 worms...

Not to mention GM's entry into FWD compacts with the X-Body (Citation, Phoenix, 
Omega,
Skylark).
I bought a five door four speed Citation in 1985 with 145k on the odo, scrapped 
it in 1989
with 208k on it. Iron Duke engine was all original as far as I know. I had to 
rebuild the
carb and replace a choke pulloff solenoid during my ownership. The shift 
interlock came
unbolted at 168k, and I was too cheap to replace the obviously worn 1-2 gear 
fork when I
had the transaxle apart. When the fork finally broke during a speed shift into 
2nd, I sold
the car to a junkyard for $20
and bought a new Horizon.



[MBZ] this would be a good project

2005-08-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

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Re: [MBZ] car of birth year

2005-08-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

I hear those diesel citations were pretty nice.

Mitch Haley wrote:


Kevin wrote:


80 was also the first year of the eagle, which is a whole other can of worms...



Not to mention GM's entry into FWD compacts with the X-Body (Citation, Phoenix, 
Omega,
Skylark).
I bought a five door four speed Citation in 1985 with 145k on the odo, scrapped 
it in 1989
with 208k on it. Iron Duke engine was all original as far as I know. I had to 
rebuild the
carb and replace a choke pulloff solenoid during my ownership. The shift 
interlock came
unbolted at 168k, and I was too cheap to replace the obviously worn 1-2 gear 
fork when I
had the transaxle apart. When the fork finally broke during a speed shift into 
2nd, I sold
the car to a junkyard for $20
and bought a new Horizon.

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Re: [MBZ] car of birth year (ot, US cars)

2005-08-26 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 
 I hear those diesel citations were pretty nice.
 
Never heard  of a diesel X-body, my dad had a diesel Olds Ciera (A-body). 
I got 38mpg in the Citation, he got 28-30 in the diesel. I could do 0-60
in about 12 sec, the diesel did it in 28sec. This particular turkey was
both slow and thirsty, didn't seem to run any worse when the coolant
turned black from an obvious head gasket failure, now I wonder if the
head gasket was bad when he bought the thing. I had high hopes for it
when the injection pump failed, but it was still slow and thirsty with
the pump rebuild. I believe the 4.3L Ciera should have been almost
as fast as a 300SD and good for 35-40mpg. I saw a 1983 Ciera Brogham
on ebay a few years ago, less than 50 miles from my folks's house,
I was tempted to go out there and see if it was dad's car, it was
the same color, not running, $20 minimum bid. I decided I didn't even
want to see that turkey again, so I never knew if it was dad's old car.
One time I got outdragged and cut off in the Citation by a diesel Ciera.
I thought he might try to jump in front of me and turn left, so I gave it
half throttle when the light turned green. That would have easily put dad's
Olds away, but this one got the jump on me. (and immediately hit the brakes
to turn left after he took my lane)



Re: [MBZ] MB V-6 diesel vs Lexus hybrid coast to coast

2005-08-26 Thread Ed Booher
Wait a second, is the V6 CDI coming to the US?  I thought they were
all still Inline engines!?  Does this mean we might get the V8 CDI
too?

On 8/24/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From New York to LA - diesel beats hybrid on fuel
  
 August 24, 2005
 
 Although many may think petrol-electric hybrid drives use less fuel than
 other engines, German car magazine Auto Bild has shown that a modern diesel
 engine is a superior alternative -- an almost as good in city driving.
 
 The magazine, as reported in its latest issue, conducted a comparative test
 drive from the East Coast to the West Coast of the USA - from New York to
 Los Angeles - with a new Mercedes-Benz ML 320 CDI and a Lexus RX 400h with a
 petrol/battery hybrid system.
 
 The test result showed that the advanced diesel engine was far more
 fuel-efficient than the hybrid over long distances and only marginally less
 so in a city
 
 The cars were driven about 5200 km from New York to San Francisco and the
 final figures told a story that will turn the greens blue in the face:
 
 The results showed that while the ML 320 CDI (165kW) returned an average
 fuel consumption of 7.62 litres/100km, the hybrid SUV (155 kW) averaged 8.64
 litres/100km.
 
 The difference of just under 11 percent, Auto Bild said, underscored the
 superiority of a state-of-the-art diesel engine over a hybrid drives. The
 endurance test also showed that hybrid technology was only marginally more
 fuel efficient in urban traffic where it is most effective in reducing
 consumption.
 
 At 9.8 litres/100km, the diesel returned only 0.17 litres/100km heavier fuel
 consumption in city driving than the hybrid.
 
 The M-class performed admirably under diverse conditions during the entire
 5200km trek, said an Auto Bild editor.
 The endurance test also showed that hybrid technology was only marginally
 more fuel efficient in urban traffic
 . I hadn't expected such a big advantage in fuel efficiency.
 
 Underneath the bonnet of the ML 320 CDI is an all-new V-6 engine with
 third-generation common-rail technology that has brought further
 improvements to fuel consumption, exhaust emissions and performance.
 
 At 510Nm, the V6 has one of the highest torque outputs of any engine in its
 displacement class, and this performance begins at only 1600rpm.
 
 The Mercedes-Benz coast-to-coast test cars were also equipped with diesel
 particulate traps, helping to further reduce the M-Class's emissions.
 
 The 320 CDI engine meets Euro IV regulations even without the trap.
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Re: [MBZ] Topsider (where to buy, what to get)

2005-08-26 Thread Rich Thomas
Not quite, but while the initial oilsucker capitalization is very low 
the recurring usage costs are high but manageable!


--R

ned kleinhenz wrote:


Rich:
And I'll bet you paid more for that Bottle of Sam's Ale than you did
for that oil sucker.

Ned

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Re: [MBZ] this would be a good project

2005-08-26 Thread Rich Thomas
she drove with low water and ignored the saftey lights and blew the 
head gasket


I bet the hubby blew a gasket too when he found out what wifey had done 
to that nice pricey car.


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Re: [MBZ] car of birth year (ot, US cars)

2005-08-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Im about 90% sure there was a diesel citation, had a 4 cyl isuzu engine 
in it maybe?


Mitch Haley wrote:

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


I hear those diesel citations were pretty nice.



Never heard  of a diesel X-body, my dad had a diesel Olds Ciera (A-body). 
I got 38mpg in the Citation, he got 28-30 in the diesel. I could do 0-60

in about 12 sec, the diesel did it in 28sec. This particular turkey was
both slow and thirsty, didn't seem to run any worse when the coolant
turned black from an obvious head gasket failure, now I wonder if the
head gasket was bad when he bought the thing. I had high hopes for it
when the injection pump failed, but it was still slow and thirsty with
the pump rebuild. I believe the 4.3L Ciera should have been almost
as fast as a 300SD and good for 35-40mpg. I saw a 1983 Ciera Brogham
on ebay a few years ago, less than 50 miles from my folks's house,
I was tempted to go out there and see if it was dad's car, it was
the same color, not running, $20 minimum bid. I decided I didn't even
want to see that turkey again, so I never knew if it was dad's old car.
One time I got outdragged and cut off in the Citation by a diesel Ciera.
I thought he might try to jump in front of me and turn left, so I gave it
half throttle when the light turned green. That would have easily put dad's
Olds away, but this one got the jump on me. (and immediately hit the brakes
to turn left after he took my lane)

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Re: [MBZ] this would be a good project

2005-08-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

yea I bet.  Its sure cheap though if the head is all thats wrong.

Rich Thomas wrote:

she drove with low water and ignored the saftey lights and blew the 
head gasket


I bet the hubby blew a gasket too when he found out what wifey had done 
to that nice pricey car.


--R

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[MBZ] '45 Pontiac?

2005-08-26 Thread RELNGSON
 We owned a '45 Pontiac when I was 10 and it was a real POS.
 
That would be an Army surplus staff car, then?

RLE/Seattle


[MBZ] R-12

2005-08-26 Thread Constantine N. Polites


On August 4, 2005, I ordered a 30# cylinder of R-12 from Donald Knieriem 
in Murray, KY.

Tel. 270 293 9696.
I prepaid him $ 435., as agreed- with my check. Today  I got the 
material in excellent condition .


Regards,
Constantine




[MBZ] 0W-40

2005-08-26 Thread RELNGSON
 I think the 0W-40 is used as factory fill for fuel economy,
not for protetction... I wouldn't put it in my cars.

For fuel economy? Please explain. And keep in mind that low-performance 
slowpoke cars like the SL55 and the Porsche 911 Turbo use M1 0W-40. But   it's 
not 
safe for your stuff?

RLE/ Seattle



Re: [MBZ] R-12

2005-08-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

huh?

Constantine N. Polites wrote:

On August 4, 2005, I ordered a 30# cylinder of R-12 from Donald Knieriem 
in Murray, KY.

Tel. 270 293 9696.
 I prepaid him $ 435., as agreed- with my check. Today  I got the 
material in excellent condition .


Regards,
Constantine


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Re: [MBZ] 0W-40

2005-08-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Its too thin to provide good engine protection but does increase fuel 
economy.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I think the 0W-40 is used as factory fill for fuel economy,
not for protetction... I wouldn't put it in my cars.

For fuel economy? Please explain. And keep in mind that low-performance 
slowpoke cars like the SL55 and the Porsche 911 Turbo use M1 0W-40. But  
it's not safe for your stuff?


RLE/ Seattle




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Re: [MBZ] car of birth year (ot, US cars)

2005-08-26 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 
 Im about 90% sure there was a diesel citation, had a 4 cyl isuzu engine
 in it maybe?

Chevette had that. LUV (rebadged Isuzu P'up) had the same engine, but
I believe there was an available turbo on the truck. Chevettes got
canabalized a lot for truck drivetrain parts, much like Sunbeam Alpines
get canabalized to keep the much more valuable Tigers going. 
AFAIK, the FWD X only came with the 151 iron duke (half a 305 Pontiac basically)
and the 2.8L six (with weak valve train).



Re: [MBZ] R-12

2005-08-26 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 
 huh?
 

He told us he was buying the stuff, and I said let us know if the seller
delivers, now he's let us know. $395 + $40 shipping is the best price I've
seen in almost ten years if the stuff is virgin.



Re: [MBZ] car of birth year (ot, US cars)

2005-08-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

OK, maybe it was the chevette I was thinking about then.

Mitch Haley wrote:


Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


Im about 90% sure there was a diesel citation, had a 4 cyl isuzu engine
in it maybe?



Chevette had that. LUV (rebadged Isuzu P'up) had the same engine, but
I believe there was an available turbo on the truck. Chevettes got
canabalized a lot for truck drivetrain parts, much like Sunbeam Alpines
get canabalized to keep the much more valuable Tigers going. 
AFAIK, the FWD X only came with the 151 iron duke (half a 305 Pontiac basically)

and the 2.8L six (with weak valve train).

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Re: [MBZ] R-12

2005-08-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

Oh, OK.

Mitch Haley wrote:


Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


huh?




He told us he was buying the stuff, and I said let us know if the seller
delivers, now he's let us know. $395 + $40 shipping is the best price I've
seen in almost ten years if the stuff is virgin.

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Re: [MBZ] cars from the years of our births

2005-08-26 Thread redghost
Not anymore young man!  She is getting pretty close to what the stupid 
state actually thinks her value is.  Going to have to make it mid four 
figures until I get the rust dealt with.  Then the sky is the limit!


On Thursday, August 25, 2005, at 01:10 PM, kevin kraly wrote:


You can not have mine

Ah come on!  I want it, I want it, I WANT IT!  Gump would look nice in 
my

driveway!  I'll even give you $600!

Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon

1978 300CD 200K+ miles, Vinnie



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1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
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Re: [MBZ] cars from the years of our births

2005-08-26 Thread Zeitgeist
I wish they still made the Ponton in '65 (don't like the finnies), but
I guess I'd opt for whatever two-seater sporty model they offered that
year -- 230SL?


Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel:
'87 300TD intercooler (208k)
'84 300D (203k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (185K)



Re: [MBZ] R-12

2005-08-26 Thread Tom Hargrave
That's a great price. My last 30 pound bottle cost me $770.00 and that was
more than a few years ago.


Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
256-656-1924
www.kegkits.com

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Constantine N. Polites
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 7:28 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] R-12


On August 4, 2005, I ordered a 30# cylinder of R-12 from Donald Knieriem in
Murray, KY.
Tel. 270 293 9696.
 I prepaid him $ 435., as agreed- with my check. Today  I got the material
in excellent condition .

Regards,
Constantine


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Re: [MBZ] this would be a good project

2005-08-26 Thread Richard Smith
Is this one of the rod benders?

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Re: [MBZ] this would be a good project

2005-08-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

yep

Richard Smith wrote:


Is this one of the rod benders?

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Re: [MBZ] this would be a good project

2005-08-26 Thread Richard Smith
RUN AWAY.!

On 8/25/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 yep
 
 Richard Smith wrote:
 
  Is this one of the rod benders?
 
  On 8/25/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4569716236sspagename=ADME%3AB%3AWN%3AMT%3A1
 --
 Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
  89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
  85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
  76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
 
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 Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
  89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
  85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
  76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
 
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OK Richard 1987 300D 178k with miles and miles to go!!!
Midwest City, Oklahoma



Re: [MBZ] car from birth year

2005-08-26 Thread redghost

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/93385962.html

this would be a great addition, but the wife hates them.  Thinks they 
look like clowns should tumble out when doors are open




On Thursday, August 25, 2005, at 01:24 PM, Gerald R. Flintrop wrote:


1948!

http://www.hfmgv.org/exhibits/showroom/1948/tucker.html

Jerry   Ö¿Ö
    ~


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Behalf Of Mitch Haley
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 1:16 PM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] car from birth year

andrew strasfogel wrote:


I don't want a '46 anything.



Was the Tucker a '46 or '48 model?





--
Clay
Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz




[MBZ] anybody need any 6.3 heads?

2005-08-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-600-and-6-3-M100-Engine-Cylinder-Heads_W0QQitemZ7995778573QQcategoryZ33617QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts



Re: [MBZ] '45 Pontiac?

2005-08-26 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
My first car was a 49 Pontiac  6 cylinder and it was good training for
how to drive my 240D some 40 years later. 
 
Dwight Giles, Jr.
1979 240D auto, 243K+  miles
Wickford RI
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 7:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] '45 Pontiac?
 
We owned a '45 Pontiac when I was 10 and it was a real POS.

That would be an Army surplus staff car, then?

RLE/Seattle




Re: [MBZ] No Start Question My poor 240

2005-08-26 Thread David Brodbeck
Steve MacSween wrote:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
In fact, the question still stands for the list. What's everybody elses'
opinion??
 
 
 My opinion: get a used engine.

That sounds like a good idea.  Heck, he could get a used engine and
drive the car on that while his brother works on the old one.  Then it
won't matter how long it takes.

I'm kinda in the opposite situation -- if I had a shop and the time to
do it, I'd buy a car with a good body and a crap engine and swap the
good engine out of my rustbucket.

David Brodbeck
'83 Mercedes 300D Turbo



Re: [MBZ] Oh joy! Another oil thread!

2005-08-26 Thread OK Don
It looks like about 4 oz.  The kit includes a neat bellows container,
plastic tubing, labels, pre-paid mailers, everything you need. You
squeeze the air out of the bottle, suck the oil into it, cap it, and
mail it back. Nothing to it.

On 8/25/05, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How large a sample of used oil do they require to perform the analysis?
 


-- 
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK 
'87 300SDL
'81 240D
'78 450SLC



[MBZ] new starter for 85 300D

2005-08-26 Thread Mike LaRosa

 
 anybody want it ?  I got it from rusty,  but after I
 cleaned up all the wires and terminals car has been
 fine so i never put it in...  I payed 139.-  will
 sell it for the same...

 Anybody local to Southern NH need one ?
 
 Mike LaRosa
 
 




Re: [MBZ] WVO-diesel mix project

2005-08-26 Thread OK Don
I'd like to see the pictures also -- 

On 8/25/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am about to make that same jump myself, so a tutorial (with photos) would
 be very handy. 
 

-- 
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK 
'87 300SDL
'81 240D
'78 450SLC



Re: [MBZ] New Deal

2005-08-26 Thread OK Don
Hmmm - I thought the New Deal was a chicken in every pot -- -- 

On 8/25/05, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  Ok, starting September 1, 2005 until December 29, 2005, we are giving
 incentives on large purchases placed on the telephone only. Orders over
 $500.00 you will get $15.00 off your next purchase. Orders over $1000.00
 you will get $25.00 off your next purchase and orders over $1500.00 you
 will get $50.00 off your next purchase. 2nd purchase must be made by
 March 31, 2006. This offer is good on all parts purchased on the phone
 whether it is an in stock item or dealer special order. Go for it guys.
 
 
 Rusty Cullens
 BuyMBparts, Inc.
 1-800-741-5252
 http://www.BuyMBparts.com



-- 
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK 
'87 300SDL
'81 240D
'78 450SLC



Re: [MBZ] More M1

2005-08-26 Thread RELNGSON
Kaleb the Engineer tells me in re: M1 0W-40:

Its too thin to provide good engine protection but does increase fuel
economy.

Lessee now, when it's cold and thin and thus provides startup lubrication 
sooner, that's no good. But when it's hot and acting like 40 weight it's 
providing better fuel economy. That's your theory, right?

RLE


Re: [MBZ] crap in tanks and TOILET PAPER (?!?!??!) filters....

2005-08-26 Thread David Brodbeck
Marshall Booth wrote:
 one VW diesel owner did not CHANGE his Mobil 1 oil for 60kmi and 
 when it was finally changed it was still honey colored and the TBN had 
 not dropped more than about 50%. Problem was that he had to change the 
 filter at least every 2500 miles or the filter would occlude, and with 
 each filter change, a qt of fresh oil had to be added. The actual cost 
 for the 60kmi was only about $10-12 less than if he had change the 
 oil/filter in the conventional way - and there was the labor and 
 disposal problems of changing the filter every 2500 miles (24 times) for 
 60kmi of driving.

Just to play devil's advocate: A VW diesel holds 4 quarts of oil.  He
effectively did six oil changes in that 60,000 miles, one quart at a time.



Re: [MBZ] More M1

2005-08-26 Thread Peter Frederick
I'm leary of using 0 weight oil in a diesel as I don't think it 
provides enough film strength to protect the crankpin bearings on cold 
running.  I stick with 5W-40 M1 truck and SUV oil in the winter and M1 
15W-50 in the summer.  Delvac 1, if you can find it, is better than the 
15W50 as it is formulated for diesel, not general use.


The fun thing with synthetic oils (all of them, not just Mobil 1) is 
that the viscosity changes much less with temperature than that of dino 
oils -- synthetic will have a much lower viscosity than dino cold, and 
much higher viscosity hot!  It also doesn't produce sludge unless 
severely provoked.


Peter




Re: [MBZ] going Veggie

2005-08-26 Thread OK Don
Let's see -- Luther posted $0.05/gal. for the waste oil in his post
about the trip to MPLS. If Dino Diesel is $2.50/gal., then the savings
is $2.45/gal. $2000/$2.45=816 gal. saved. If your 240D gets 25mpg,
that's 20408 miles. At your 4 miles/day commute, that's 20.4 years for
you to break even. Go for it - you'll live that long!

On 8/25/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Maybe too many econ classes at GMU, but I wonder how long it would take for
 reasonable return on investment on a $2K WVO system, not counting the time
 needed to collect / filter / process / pray over the WVO. 
 

-- 
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK 
'87 300SDL
'81 240D
'78 450SLC



[MBZ] 1946

2005-08-26 Thread RELNGSON
I don't want a '46 anything.

How bout a '46 Cadillac. Black. Restored of course.

RLE


[MBZ] Time to get a fall project?

2005-08-26 Thread redghost

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/93382826.html -- 1960 SL  $28k

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/93383568.html  --1960 SL  $40k

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/93342934.html  --80 SEL  $6500

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/93301058.html  --meth head

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/93249476.html  --88 TE $4500

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/93240391.html  --115 parts car  $200

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/93224326.html  --w116  $1200

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/93032457.html  --83 300D  $500

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/93117511.html  --79 240D  $1200

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/93096355.html  -72 SL for Kevin

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/93030915.html  --82 300D  $5k

I would love to have the w115, but no trailer, no space, no luck.  No 
affiliation



--
Clay
Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz




Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 3, Issue 198

2005-08-26 Thread David Brodbeck
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My 01 S class MB does that too. Says how many miles before service and
 checks the level. Wasn't it 00 that MB offered that first? MB counts
 down the miles to service. Seems like it starts a 300 or so then at 100
 then when due, if I remember right. I change when it's convenient for
 me. So if it's within a K or so it gets done.

I think in most cases what they're doing is estimating oil life based on
the engine's history -- how many cold starts, how many miles, etc.
There's a complex formula programmed into the computer for it.  It does
mean you have to use the oil they recommend, or the program might not be
correct!



Re: [MBZ] car from birth year

2005-08-26 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Paint it red and stick a V8 under the bonnet. Wife will love it:-)
Then again for that kind of money you can buy a real car.
Is there a big wind up key that comes with it?

Hendrik

- Original Message -
From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] car from birth year


http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/93385962.html

this would be a great addition, but the wife hates them.  Thinks they
look like clowns should tumble out when doors are open



On Thursday, August 25, 2005, at 01:24 PM, Gerald R. Flintrop wrote:

 1948!

 http://www.hfmgv.org/exhibits/showroom/1948/tucker.html

 Jerry Ö¿Ö
 ~


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Mitch Haley
 Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 1:16 PM
 To: Mercedes mailing list
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] car from birth year

 andrew strasfogel wrote:

 I don't want a '46 anything.


 Was the Tucker a '46 or '48 model?




--
Clay
Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz


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Re: [MBZ] DallasCar list -- SD, SL, D

2005-08-26 Thread OK Don
Yup - looks like a perfect candidate - 
Got a spare 603 drive train Kaleb

On 8/25/05, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Rich Thomas wrote:
  1974   Mercedes Benz   Red 10704412021207
 
 A red SL with chalky paint and likely fuel system issues?
 Dare I say FrankenBenz?
 http://www.texascarsforkids.org/details.asp?CarId=6228vType=1
 

-- 
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK 
'87 300SDL
'81 240D
'78 450SLC



Re: [MBZ] wierd SDL charging problem.

2005-08-26 Thread David Brodbeck
Craig McCluskey wrote:
 An easier solution would be to add a light emitting diode (LED) in series
 with a resistor in one of the empty holes at the bottom of the
 instrument cluster and wiring that across the output of the glow plug
 relay to ground.

I had exactly that setup on my VW diesel.  The Bosch relays that VW uses
weld on or turn intermittent often enough that a lot of VW owners have
made this modification.  It's actually kind of educational, 'cause you
get to see what the relay does, which isn't the same as what the dash
light does.  A sticking glow relay will destroy a set of glow plugs in
short order.

I also had monitor LEDs for the electric cooling fan on that van.  I'm
paranoid that way. ;)



Re: [MBZ] wierd SDL charging problem.

2005-08-26 Thread OK Don
I figured so - that's why it was safe to offer to buy it!

On 8/25/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Oh, there is no chance I will be parting with the euro project, no way jose.
 


-- 
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK 
'87 300SDL
'81 240D
'78 450SLC



Re: [MBZ] new starter for 85 300D

2005-08-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

I will give you $40 for it.

Mike LaRosa wrote:

 
 anybody want it ?  I got it from rusty,  but after I

 cleaned up all the wires and terminals car has been
 fine so i never put it in...  I payed 139.-  will
 sell it for the same...

 Anybody local to Southern NH need one ?
 
 Mike LaRosa
 
 



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 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts



Re: [MBZ] New Deal

2005-08-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

Thats what I thought.  Oh well.

OK Don wrote:

Hmmm - I thought the New Deal was a chicken in every pot -- -- 


On 8/25/05, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:






--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts



Re: [MBZ] wierd SDL charging problem.

2005-08-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

oh, ok.

OK Don wrote:


I figured so - that's why it was safe to offer to buy it!

On 8/25/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Oh, there is no chance I will be parting with the euro project, no way jose.







--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts



Re: [MBZ] going Veggie

2005-08-26 Thread LT Don
Yea. In 20.4 years I will be 73 years old. Hopefully I will still be driving 
(and still have a motorcycle endorsement on my license). But whether or not 
my 240D is still on the road at that point is 50/50. I am hoping it will 
(rust bucket by then) still be in (rust bucket by then) roadworthy (rust 
bucket in a museum) condition. 

On 8/25/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Let's see -- Luther posted $0.05/gal. for the waste oil in his post
 about the trip to MPLS. If Dino Diesel is $2.50/gal., then the savings
 is $2.45/gal. $2000/$2.45=816 gal. saved. If your 240D gets 25mpg,
 that's 20408 miles. At your 4 miles/day commute, that's 20.4 years for
 you to break even. Go for it - you'll live that long!
 
 On 8/25/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Maybe too many econ classes at GMU, but I wonder how long it would take 
 for
  reasonable return on investment on a $2K WVO system, not counting the 
 time
  needed to collect / filter / process / pray over the WVO.
 
 
 --
 OK Don, KD5NRO
 Norman, OK
 '87 300SDL
 '81 240D
 '78 450SLC
 
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1977 240D
1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle

If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.


Re: [MBZ] New Deal

2005-08-26 Thread LT Don
No no ... it was pot for every chicken. 

On 8/25/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Thats what I thought. Oh well.
 
 OK Don wrote:
 
  Hmmm - I thought the New Deal was a chicken in every pot -- --
 
  On 8/25/05, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
 --
 Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
 
 ___
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-- 
1977 240D
1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle

If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.


Re: [MBZ] going Veggie

2005-08-26 Thread OK Don
If you get that new job 20(?) or more miles away, the pay-back will be
porportionaly shorter.

On 8/25/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yea. In 20.4 years I will be 73 years old. Hopefully I will still be driving
  (and still have a motorcycle endorsement on my license).  But whether or
 not my 240D is still on the road at that point is 50/50. I am hoping it will
 (rust bucket by then) still be in (rust bucket by then) roadworthy (rust
 bucket in a museum) condition. 
 


-- 
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK 
'87 300SDL
'81 240D
'78 450SLC



[MBZ] more on the subject of collector car prices for 220D's

2005-08-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-air-cond-1971-Mercedes-Benz-220-classic-vintage-diesel-no-resrv_W0QQitemZ4571229582QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
 85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts



Re: [MBZ] going Veggie

2005-08-26 Thread LT Don
I am not sure that WVO would be very functional during the winter. I always 
thought of that as more of a warm weather sort of experiment. Perhaps with 
the right heaters ...


Re: [MBZ] '45 Pontiac?

2005-08-26 Thread David Brodbeck
Dwight E. Giles, Jr. wrote:
 My first car was a 49 Pontiac  6 cylinder and it was good training for
 how to drive my 240D some 40 years later.

I'm just a youngster.  My first was an '87 Ford Aerostar minivan. The
odd thing about it was it had a 5-speed stick shift.

David Brodbeck
'83 Mercedes 300D Turbo



Re: [MBZ] WVO-diesel mix project

2005-08-26 Thread Luther Gulseth
Ok all, if you want pictures, you'll have to be nice.  The digital  
camera I have isn't the greatest...right Kaleb?

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:33:52 -0500, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I'd like to see the pictures also --

On 8/25/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am about to make that same jump myself, so a tutorial (with photos)  
would

be very handy.







--
Luther  KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix)
'82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix)
'82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??)



[MBZ] Dead bulb light - 126

2005-08-26 Thread OK Don
One of the rear running lights on the 300SDL burnt out and the dead
light bulb light (the one that looks like a bomb icon) on the dash lit
up everytime I turned on the headlights. Since I didn't consider that
light essential, I didn't change it right away - couldn't remember it
during the daylight hours. After a month or tow  of this, the dead
light bulb light came on any time the car is on. I figured there was a
timer somewhere that was saying - hey stupid, don't ignore me! So I
changed the dead bulb, it works now, every other bulb I can find works
now, but the dead light bulb dash light still lights up every time the
car is on. I thought maybe the computer has to be re-set, I found
the applicable fuse, pulled it out for 30 seconds or so, and put it
back. That warning light is still on!
Is there another bulb that I can't that's supposed to working when the
head lihts are off that I'm missing? Is there a secret re-set code?
Any ideas?

Thanks -
-- 
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK 
'87 300SDL
'81 240D
'78 450SLC



Re: [MBZ] going Veggie

2005-08-26 Thread Luther Gulseth
WHOA!!!  I DID NOT POST $0.05/gal!  I posted  
$0.05/mile!!!  HUGE DIFFERENCE
I estimate the WVO costs me $0.50/gal (this includes  
pickup/filtering/piping/pumping/etc)


On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:51:38 -0500, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Let's see -- Luther posted $0.05/gal. for the waste oil in his post
about the trip to MPLS. If Dino Diesel is $2.50/gal., then the savings
is $2.45/gal. $2000/$2.45=816 gal. saved. If your 240D gets 25mpg,
that's 20408 miles. At your 4 miles/day commute, that's 20.4 years for
you to break even. Go for it - you'll live that long!

On 8/25/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe too many econ classes at GMU, but I wonder how long it would take  
for
reasonable return on investment on a $2K WVO system, not counting the  
time

needed to collect / filter / process / pray over the WVO.







--
Luther  KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix)
'82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix)
'82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??)



Re: [MBZ] Charity 240D and 300TD

2005-08-26 Thread andrew strasfogel
Oh yeah, baby!  A nice clean TD that only needs a starter.

On 8/25/05, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 The ArlingtonCar list has been updated today. 
 Please click http://www.texascarsforkids.org/Carlist.asp?ID=2 to view the
 list for this Saturday's auction. 
 
 That white one is a TD, might not be a bad deal.
 
 --R
 
 http://www.texascarsforkids.org/details.asp?CarId=6322vType=1   40 
  1981  Mercedes Benz   240DSilver  WDBAB23A0BB218721  
  172012 
 http://www.texascarsforkids.org/details.asp?CarId=6336vType=1   38 
  1982  Mercedes Benz   300DWhite   WDBAB93A6CN011999   252000
 
 
 




Re: [MBZ] this would be a good project

2005-08-26 Thread andrew strasfogel
The English suggests the seller is either Russian or Iranian (no
offense  to either).

On 8/25/05, Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 RUN AWAY.!
 
 On 8/25/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  yep
  
  Richard Smith wrote:
  
   Is this one of the rod benders?
  
   On 8/25/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4569716236sspagename=ADME%3AB%3AWN%3AMT%3A1
  --
  Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
   89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE,
   85 300D,  83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
   76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
  Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
  
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Re: [MBZ] crap in tanks and TOILET PAPER (?!?!??!) filters....

2005-08-26 Thread Marshall Booth

David Brodbeck wrote:

Marshall Booth wrote:

one VW diesel owner did not CHANGE his Mobil 1 oil for 60kmi and 
when it was finally changed it was still honey colored and the TBN had 
not dropped more than about 50%. Problem was that he had to change the 
filter at least every 2500 miles or the filter would occlude, and with 
each filter change, a qt of fresh oil had to be added. The actual cost 
for the 60kmi was only about $10-12 less than if he had change the 
oil/filter in the conventional way - and there was the labor and 
disposal problems of changing the filter every 2500 miles (24 times) for 
60kmi of driving.



Just to play devil's advocate: A VW diesel holds 4 quarts of oil.  He
effectively did six oil changes in that 60,000 miles, one quart at a time.


But he had to change the filter 24 times - a lot of labor and trouble.

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Re: [MBZ] Dead bulb light - 126

2005-08-26 Thread BenzBarn
Nope. You still have a light not working.  Could be the third brake light or
something that only comes on when used. This system is pretty sensitive (
like the wife ) and will pick up on anything wrong.




Re: [MBZ] going Veggie

2005-08-26 Thread OK Don
OK - the short term memory must be going!!!  

AStarting over, the saving is $2.00/gal. $2000/2=1000 gal. saved. If
your 240D gets 25mpg,
that's 25000 miles. At your 4 miles/day commute, that's 25 years for
you to break even. You still might live that long!

On 8/25/05, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 WHOA!!!  I DID NOT POST $0.05/gal!  I posted
 $0.05/mile!!!  HUGE DIFFERENCE
 I estimate the WVO costs me $0.50/gal (this includes
 pickup/filtering/piping/pumping/etc)
 

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Re: [MBZ] Dead bulb light - 126

2005-08-26 Thread OK Don
When just the running light was out, the bomb light only came on when
the headlights were on, so I assumed (and we know what that stands
for) that something had to be on, or it was yelling at me. I never
thought about the brake lights - will check them in the AM.

On 8/25/05, BenzBarn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Nope. You still have a light not working.  Could be the third brake light or
 something that only comes on when used. This system is pretty sensitive (
 like the wife ) and will pick up on anything wrong.
 
 

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Re: [MBZ] car from birth year

2005-08-26 Thread OK Don
It does look to be in good shape, but then again - it has that Prince
of Darkness electrical system -- --

On 8/25/05, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Paint it red and stick a V8 under the bonnet. Wife will love it:-)
 Then again for that kind of money you can buy a real car.
 Is there a big wind up key that comes with it?
 
 Hendrik

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Re: [MBZ] going Veggie

2005-08-26 Thread redghost
Depends on how often you fill the tank.  I would be able to recoup in 
around a year (48.9 tanks of $3 diesel).  That takes into account the 
gathering of WVO and filtering, but not time invested.


On Thursday, August 25, 2005, at 03:06 PM, LT Don wrote:

Maybe too many econ classes at GMU, but I wonder how long it would 
take for reasonable return on investment on a $2K WVO system, not 
counting the time needed to collect / filter / process / pray over the 
WVO.


On 8/25/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

What I like about his stuff is that it gets better with each iteration.
  He is also doing more than just simple Benz installs so there is wide
integration with other makes, which will transfer to better coming
systems



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Re: [MBZ] E-coli

2005-08-26 Thread redghost

I dialed the phone instead of using the web link?

On Thursday, August 25, 2005, at 03:21 PM, LT Don wrote:


Ok, have you identified the weak link here?

On 8/25/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

(because Gary could not find what I wanted)





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Re: [MBZ] cars from the years of our births

2005-08-26 Thread redghost
Last time I promised a fellow that should I find a nice 220D that I 
would let him know, I ended up with Gump.


If I see a good example, I will let you know.

On Thursday, August 25, 2005, at 03:25 PM, kevin kraly wrote:


Clay,

I would be happy with a car that looks ok and runs and drives fine, 
not a

concourse car, but one that isn't banged up.  I would also prefer if
everything works, but I know it's gonna have non-op AC unless I pay 
top $$$.
I don't think that I would buy one with an auto tranny though because 
my

bicycle could probably get a pretty good holeshot on it!

Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon

1978 300CD 200K+ miles, Vinnie



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Re: [MBZ] Topsider (where to buy, what to get)

2005-08-26 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 17:12:18 -0500 LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Remove dipstick [there is a divorce joke in there somewhere], insert Top
 Sider, pump 60 times, release the clip on the hose, walk away and try to
 remember where you left the new filter.
 
 As easy as that. 


You forgot something:

 - Remove nuts securing top of oil filter cannister and remove lid.
 - Lift oil filter up until it clears the large internal tube and
   rest on top of tube to drain while oil is being sucked out.

At least that's what's needed on a W123.


Craig



[MBZ] $2 oil sucker

2005-08-26 Thread Wilton Strickland
HOMEMADE /$2 TOPSIDER/OIL SUCKER

(This method of oil removal by suction works only if oil dipstick tube goes
to lowest point in oil pan, as in a Mercedes.  Oil below bottom of dipstick
tube can't be removed by this method without sticking an oil evacuation tube
down the dipstick tube to bottom of the oil pan.  Mercedes engines since the
60's have been built with dipstick tubes to lowest point in the pan,
specifically, to expedite removal of oil by suction.  I don't know if
dipstick tubes in other engines go to bottom of the pan.)

EQUIPMENT/PARTS:

1.  Vacuum cleaner (shop or domestic unit) with ITS hose

2.  5 gal plastic joint compound or detergent bucket (or appropriate size
container strong enough not to collapse under vacuum cleaner suction)

3.  ~ 5 feet of 5/8 inch OD plastic tubing with some fabric in the walls to
help it resist collapsing due to suction and heat from the oil

CONSTRUCTION:

1.  Near the outer edge of the bucket's plastic top, cut a small hole
slightly smaller than the 5/8 inch tube.  Insert end of 5/8 inch tube snugly
into this hole - NOT to the bottom of the bucket - only an inch or so into
the top - enough to stay securely in place.  (If the discharge end of the
evacuation tube is below the oil level in the bucket, much bubbling and
turbulence will occur in the oil when most of the oil has been removed from
the engine, and the sucker sucks air.  The turbulence may cause oil to be
spattered near and drawn into the vac hose.)

2.  Near the opposite edge of the bucket's top from the 5/8 inch tube, cut a
hole slightly smaller than the suction end of the vac cleaner hose.  Insert
suction end of the vac cleaner hose snugly into this hole - NOT way down in
the bucket - just past the top enough to stay securely in place.

3.  Insert other end of 5/8 inch OD plastic tube snugly INTO TOP inch and a
half or so of engine oil dipstick tube.  (If you feel more comfortable by
wrapping a bit of tape around the plastic tube to increase its size and make
it fit more snugly INSIDE the dipstick tube, please do so.)

4.  Attach other end of vac hose to the vac cleaner.

UP-GRADED, FIRST CLASS UNIT:

In lieu of plastic joint compound or detergent bucket, use 5 gal. kerosene,
gasoline or other appropriate metal or plastic can with built-in pouring
spout and filler opening.

1.  Insert suction end of vac cleaner hose snugly into the can's pouring
spout.

2.  Insert/install end of 5/8 inch oil removal tube in the can's other
opening.  (I used PVC couplings/fittings of appropriate sizes to adapt
filler opening for the 5/8 inch tube.  I also used a short section of 1½
inch dia. PVC, installed with slight downward slope inside the top of the
can to discharge the oil across the can as far as possible from the
suction/vac opening.  The 1½ inch PVC pipe inside the can also causes the
air being removed from the engine after the siphoning action is broken to
slow down enough to release small droplets of oil that may be suspended in
it.)

OIL REMOVAL:

1.  Have engine at or near operating temp.

2. Loosen top of oil filter canister  lift it 1/2 or so to allow oil to
run freely out of canister down into oil pan when vac starts.

3.  Turn vac cleaner ON.

4.  Change filter while oil flows into the receiver.  (I can't get mine
changed before the oil removal is finished.)

5.  When satisfied that oil removal is complete/sufficient, lift end of 5/8
tube out of dipstick tube.  (Turn end of tube upward and lift it upward to
aid flow of any oil in the tube into the bucket.)

6.  Turn vac cleaner OFF.

7.  Don't forget to replenish oil in the engine!

8.  Clean up - stow equipment.

I have used this type sucker several times with excellent results.  The
difference between a troubled oil change and a very clean and quick oil
change is the strength (resistance to collapse) of the oil evacuation tube.
Collapse of this tube can prevent the flow of anything - air, oil,
ANYTHING - into the bucket and can lead to the bucket's collapse if a weak
container is used.

My upgraded, first class sucker uses a metal kerosene can as the oil
receiver, but I have used a joint compound bucket as the oil receiver
several times with equal success.  Because of the permanently enclosed top
and pouring spout, the kerosene can makes dumping the oil much cleaner and
easier, though - never have to touch the oil, and don't have the trouble of
removing the top from a plastic container.

Use 5/8 inch OD plastic tubing with some fabric in the walls to help it
resist collapsing due to suction and heat from the oil.  The clear, limber,
plastic tubing is too weak - collapses easily.

Loosen top of oil filter canister  lift it a half inch or so to allow oil
to run freely out of canister down into oil pan when vac starts.

Using the sucker has several advantages for me.  The typical ones:  not
having to crawl under the car to get to the pan plug, not having to remove
the belly pan on the 350SDL, not getting oil on me nor anything else,
removal of more 

Re: [MBZ] Topsider (where to buy, what to get)

2005-08-26 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 17:10:53 -0700 R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
   2 questions -
 
   1. why do I want one? I think I know the answer - considered easier
   and cleaner to pull the oil out the dipstick than it is to crawl under
   and drain with the plug.
   I assume one still gets dirty pulling the filter off - at least on my
   115 with the old style cartridge in the canister.

If you have a W115, all bets are off. You can get VERY dirty changing the
filter on a W115, which has to be changed from the bottom.

On a W123 (and later, I believe), you change the filter from the top of
the engine. It inserts into the filter cannister from the top and the lid
bolts down on top of it.


Craig



Re: [MBZ] Dead bulb light - 126

2005-08-26 Thread Marshall Booth

OK Don wrote:

One of the rear running lights on the 300SDL burnt out and the dead
light bulb light (the one that looks like a bomb icon) on the dash lit
up everytime I turned on the headlights. Since I didn't consider that
light essential, I didn't change it right away - couldn't remember it
during the daylight hours. After a month or tow  of this, the dead
light bulb light came on any time the car is on. I figured there was a
timer somewhere that was saying - hey stupid, don't ignore me! So I
changed the dead bulb, it works now, every other bulb I can find works
now, but the dead light bulb dash light still lights up every time the
car is on. I thought maybe the computer has to be re-set, I found
the applicable fuse, pulled it out for 30 seconds or so, and put it
back. That warning light is still on!
Is there another bulb that I can't that's supposed to working when the
head lihts are off that I'm missing? Is there a secret re-set code?
Any ideas?

Thanks -


The license plate lights and the 3rd brake light are easy to ignore, but 
the dead light bulb doesn't ignore them.


Marshall

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[MBZ] A/C treatment

2005-08-26 Thread Enigma2be2
I had mentioned a treatment for the A/C system in an earlier post. To explain 
quickly what this does... the A/C system requires both some type of 
refrigerant plus an oil for lubrication. The oils used collect on the lines of 
the 
system as well as function to keep the parts lubricated. This collecting on the 
piping is called oil fouling which decreases the efficientcy of the 
refrigerant. 
This product gets rid of the oil fouling as well as increases the lubricity 
of the system. I have used it in all six of my vehicles and it has worked in 
all (cold air). I am also a general contractor specializing in custom 
residential homes and have been using it in my home A/C systems. It increases 
the 
efficientcy so well the payback is one year due to savings in run cost. The 
treatment in all systems is a one time treatment for the life of the system 
unless you 
flush the system. If you live in the south and have a heat pump it increases 
efficientcy year round because of the way a heat pump functions. Any more 
questions just ask.


Re: [MBZ] going Veggie

2005-08-26 Thread OK Don
Your daily commute is probably more than Lt. Don's 4 miles!

On 8/25/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Depends on how often you fill the tank.  I would be able to recoup in
 around a year (48.9 tanks of $3 diesel).  That takes into account the
 gathering of WVO and filtering, but not time invested.
 


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'81 240D
'78 450SLC



Re: [MBZ] $2 oil sucker

2005-08-26 Thread OK Don
Nice write-up. Thanks!

On 8/25/05, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 HOMEMADE /$2 TOPSIDER/OIL SUCKER
 
 Wilton
 


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Re: [MBZ] car from birth year

2005-08-26 Thread redghost

I think it has an engine from a fridge.  Motor?  Something

On Thursday, August 25, 2005, at 07:00 PM, Hendrik Riessen wrote:


Paint it red and stick a V8 under the bonnet. Wife will love it:-)
Then again for that kind of money you can buy a real car.
Is there a big wind up key that comes with it?

Hendrik

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes mailing list 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] car from birth year


http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/93385962.html

this would be a great addition, but the wife hates them.  Thinks they
look like clowns should tumble out when doors are open



On Thursday, August 25, 2005, at 01:24 PM, Gerald R. Flintrop wrote:


1948!

http://www.hfmgv.org/exhibits/showroom/1948/tucker.html

Jerry Ö¿Ö
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To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] car from birth year

andrew strasfogel wrote:


I don't want a '46 anything.



Was the Tucker a '46 or '48 model?





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Re: [MBZ] more on the subject of collector car prices for 220D's

2005-08-26 Thread JabbaHursty

oh, man, makes me real homesick for my departed 220D


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Re: [MBZ] New Deal

2005-08-26 Thread redghost

Well that explains Clinton

On Thursday, August 25, 2005, at 07:21 PM, LT Don wrote:


No no ... it was pot for every chicken.

On 8/25/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thats what I thought.  Oh well.

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 Hmmm - I thought the New Deal was a chicken in every pot -- --

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Re: [MBZ] A/C treatment

2005-08-26 Thread OK Don
What was the product again??? Almost sounds too good to be true -- 

On 8/25/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I had mentioned a treatment for the A/C system in an earlier post. To
 explain quickly what this does... 


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Re: [MBZ] crap in tanks and TOILET PAPER (?!?!??!) filters....

2005-08-26 Thread Mitch Haley
Marshall Booth wrote:
 But he had to change the filter 24 times - a lot of labor and trouble.
 

Depends on the filter. With Motorguard, it's 
1. twirl t-handle on filter, remove lid
2. remove TP and stick in bag
3. insert new TP
4. reinstall lid, tighten t-handle. 

If you use the bag to grab the old TP, it's a clean and quick operation.



Re: [MBZ] Dead bulb light - 126

2005-08-26 Thread OK Don
The license plate lights work - - and it makes sense from a safety
point of view that brake light bulb failure would be indicated whether
you were using the brakes at the moment or not. I'll start there!
Thanks-
 
 The license plate lights and the 3rd brake light are easy to ignore, but
 the dead light bulb doesn't ignore them.
 
 Marshall
 

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'81 240D
'78 450SLC



Re: [MBZ] more on the subject of collector car prices for 220D's

2005-08-26 Thread redghost
When I paint Gump she can look that good.  Wonder if I sent her to  
Canada the price offered would triple?



On Thursday, August 25, 2005, at 07:25 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-air-cond-1971- 
Mercedes-Benz-220-classic-vintage-diesel-no- 
resrv_W0QQitemZ4571229582QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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Re: [MBZ] A/C treatment

2005-08-26 Thread Royce Engler
OK.so what is it?

Royce Engler

1985 300TD Turbo 265K

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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 10:13 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [MBZ] A/C treatment


  I had mentioned a treatment for the A/C system in an earlier post. To
explain quickly what this does... the A/C system requires both some type of
refrigerant plus an oil for lubrication. The oils used collect on the lines
of the system as well as function to keep the parts lubricated. This
collecting on the piping is called oil fouling which decreases the
efficientcy of the refrigerant. This product gets rid of the oil fouling as
well as increases the lubricity of the system. I have used it in all six of
my vehicles and it has worked in all (cold air). I am also a general
contractor specializing in custom residential homes and have been using it
in my home A/C systems. It increases the efficientcy so well the payback is
one year due to savings in run cost. The treatment in all systems is a one
time treatment for the life of the system unless you flush the system. If
you live in the south and have a heat pump it increases efficientcy year
round because of the way a heat pump functions. Any more questions just ask.


Re: [MBZ] car from birth year

2005-08-26 Thread OK Don
I thought it was a 1500cc MG engine with a single carb, but it was a
LONG time ago that I last looked at one.

On 8/25/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think it has an engine from a fridge.  Motor?  Something
 

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'81 240D
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Re: [MBZ] more on the subject of collector car prices for 220D's

2005-08-26 Thread OK Don
You must have never replaced the fan motor -- I don't miss mine!

On 8/25/05, JabbaHursty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 oh, man, makes me real homesick for my departed 220D
 

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Re: [MBZ] Topsider (where to buy, what to get)

2005-08-26 Thread redghost
that is why I invested in the latex cat suit at the adult store. The 
oil does not show, and I can rub goop all over and hose off.


On Thursday, August 25, 2005, at 08:11 PM, Craig McCluskey wrote:


On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 17:10:53 -0700 R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



  2 questions -

  1. why do I want one? I think I know the answer - considered easier
  and cleaner to pull the oil out the dipstick than it is to crawl 
under

  and drain with the plug.
  I assume one still gets dirty pulling the filter off - at least on 
my

  115 with the old style cartridge in the canister.


If you have a W115, all bets are off. You can get VERY dirty changing 
the

filter on a W115, which has to be changed from the bottom.

On a W123 (and later, I believe), you change the filter from the top of
the engine. It inserts into the filter cannister from the top and the 
lid

bolts down on top of it.



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1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz




Re: [MBZ] going Veggie

2005-08-26 Thread redghost

A few dozen miles to the PnP and chasing kids all over the place

On Thursday, August 25, 2005, at 08:13 PM, OK Don wrote:


Your daily commute is probably more than Lt. Don's 4 miles!

On 8/25/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Depends on how often you fill the tank.  I would be able to recoup in
around a year (48.9 tanks of $3 diesel).  That takes into account the
gathering of WVO and filtering, but not time invested.




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'78 450SLC

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Re: [MBZ] crap in tanks and TOILET PAPER (?!?!??!) filters....

2005-08-26 Thread Marshall Booth

Mitch Haley wrote:

Marshall Booth wrote:


But he had to change the filter 24 times - a lot of labor and trouble.




Depends on the filter. With Motorguard, it's 
1. twirl t-handle on filter, remove lid

2. remove TP and stick in bag
3. insert new TP
4. reinstall lid, tighten t-handle. 


If you use the bag to grab the old TP, it's a clean and quick operation.


I leave it to you to have all that fun (and dispose LEGALLY of all that 
oil soaked toilet paper)!


Marshall
--
  Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions)
  der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 
159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi

  Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection
http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm




Re: [MBZ] A/C systems

2005-08-26 Thread Enigma2be2
The product is made by U. S. Refrigeration Technologies out of the Dallas 
area and is called IceCold. It is being used around the world including India 
and 
China and many other countries and here in the U.S.. It has mostly been sold 
to large consumers. I will send a passcode to individuals to go on their site 
and read about it if anyone wants to do this. I do know that the stuff works. 
I am putting it in cars for about $100.00 per and in house units for $100.00 
per ton. But this is a once treatment. It is in many large hospitals, big 
facilities and many government buildings around the country. 


Re: [MBZ] 0W-40

2005-08-26 Thread Dave M.
That's exactly right. Two list members who tried the 0W-40 had lifter
noise return on their OM603 engines, and one noticed a significant
increase in iron wear particles in the oil analysis. Reverting to
5W-40 or 15W-50 cured both issues... lifters quieted down and iron
wear went back to normal.

Another use for thin oil is in search of peak power. Racing engines
are sometimes fed watery thin stuff like 0W-20 which will give a
percent or two peak power gain over thicker oils. But those engines
are also torn down way more often than our street engines.

I'd say AMG and Porsche specify the 0W-40 because it's a compromise
between peak power  MPG (super thin) and best protection/longevity
(relatively thick). YMMV, I'm not saying it's bad oil (it's not), just
that for MY engines I perfer Delvac-1 5W-40 (aka M-1 TS).

=)

-dm

 --
 Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:30:13 EDT
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [MBZ] 0W-40
 
 I think the 0W-40 is used as factory fill for fuel economy,
 not for protetction... I wouldn't put it in my cars.
 
 For fuel economy? Please explain. And keep in mind that low-performance
 slowpoke cars like the SL55 and the Porsche 911 Turbo use M1 0W-40. 
 But  it's not safe for your stuff?
 
 RLE/ Seattle



Re: [MBZ] car from year of birth

2005-08-26 Thread Bucks2
Then she'd really laugh at my little BMW Isetta with only one door. I filled 
it up a few days ago because it was down to just over a half gallon left. Cost 
almost $6.00 to fill 'er up. At 65 MPG a fellow can cruise all over town 
pretty cheap. Oh, just for the record.. I park it behind my MB. ;-)  

Ken


In a message dated 8/25/2005 7:22:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] car from birth year


http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/93385962.html

this would be a great addition, but the wife hates them.  Thinks they
look like clowns should tumble out when doors are open


Re: [MBZ] More M1

2005-08-26 Thread Dave M.
As Marshall already mentioned, which you would have noticed if you had
been reading your messages instead of making snide jabs at Kaleb...
the M-1 0W-40 is on the thin side of a 40 rating. I vaguely recall
something about the Amsoil 0W-30 having similar specs? Despite being
awfully close numerically to the 5W-40 the two are WAY different.

-dm

 --
 Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:43:03 EDT
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] More M1
 
 Kaleb the Engineer tells me in re: M1 0W-40:
 
 Its too thin to provide good engine protection but does increase fuel
 economy.
 
 Lessee now, when it's cold and thin and thus provides startup lubrication
 sooner, that's no good. But when it's hot and acting like 40 weight it's
 providing better fuel economy. That's your theory, right?
 
 RLE



Re: [MBZ] TOILET PAPER filters (?!?!??!)

2005-08-26 Thread Dave M.
And THAT, David, is why I'm not interested in bypass filters. You do
get near-virgin oil in the engine at all times, but there's nearly
zero cost savings over just using extended drain intervals. Changing
the TP every 2.5k and adding a quart would be somewhat of a nuisance
to me. I would consider doing this if I bought a vehicle new that I
wanted to keep for 500kmi, but otherwise, it's not my cup o' tea.

=)

-dm

 --
 Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 18:44:31 -0700
 From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] crap in tanks and TOILET PAPER (?!?!??!)
filters

 Marshall Booth wrote:
  one VW diesel owner did not CHANGE his Mobil 1 oil for 60kmi and
  when it was finally changed it was still honey colored and the TBN had
  not dropped more than about 50%. Problem was that he had to change the
  filter at least every 2500 miles or the filter would occlude, and with
  each filter change, a qt of fresh oil had to be added. The actual cost
  for the 60kmi was only about $10-12 less than if he had change the
  oil/filter in the conventional way - and there was the labor and
  disposal problems of changing the filter every 2500 miles (24 times) for
  60kmi of driving.
 
 Just to play devil's advocate: A VW diesel holds 4 quarts of oil.  He
 effectively did six oil changes in that 60,000 miles, one quart at a time.




Re: [MBZ] More M1

2005-08-26 Thread Dave M.
For those of you who missed the memo, and since Mobil won't fess up to
it... Delvac-1 is now sold as Mobil-1 'Truck  SUV' Formula but a lot
cheaper. Usually $5/qt, or if you're willing to go to the Evil Empire,
Mall-Wart has 5-qt jugs for ~$19.89. That's about $3.98/qt for
Delvac-1, folks. If you buy D-1 in gallon jugs at the distrbutor, it's
usually $24/qt or so. You do the math... but I'm buying mine in 5qt
jugs!!

Also, although designed for diesels, the D-1 / TS is an excellent oil
for gas engines too. It has a different base stock than all the other
M-1 oils, AFAIK. I use it in my 300E and E500 (and the Ford cargo van
too).

=)

-dm

 --
 Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:45:33 -0500
 From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] More M1
 
 I'm leary of using 0 weight oil in a diesel as I don't think it
 provides enough film strength to protect the crankpin bearings on cold
 running.  I stick with 5W-40 M1 truck and SUV oil in the winter and M1
 15W-50 in the summer.  Delvac 1, if you can find it, is better than the
 15W50 as it is formulated for diesel, not general use.
 
 The fun thing with synthetic oils (all of them, not just Mobil 1) is
 that the viscosity changes much less with temperature than that of dino
 oils -- synthetic will have a much lower viscosity than dino cold, and
 much higher viscosity hot!  It also doesn't produce sludge unless
 severely provoked.
 
 Peter




Re: [MBZ] Homemade oil sucker...a variation on a theme...

2005-08-26 Thread Rich Thomas
I think you might be cheating, what with two vacs involved, even if one 
of them is a carcass.  But as long as you only use maybe half a tube of 
caulk, you might still remain under $2.


--R

Royce Engler wrote:

I'm in the process of converting a dead shopvac into one.   After 20 
years, my trusty Craftsman shop vac seized up.  Put some stuff in it 
to unseize it and it started spitting plastic at me, so I gave it last 
rites and bought a new one.  So far I've removed the old motor and 
started sealing up the holes where it was.  I'll connect it to the new 
shop vac and a hose and give it a try.  I figure the shop vac should 
be a sturdy enough container and it's made to hold suction anyway.  
OBTW...I don't think you want to actually pull a full vacuum on 
it...just enough to get suction going.
 


Royce Engler

1985 300TD Turbo 265K

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
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*Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2005 1:41 PM
*To:* benz
*Subject:* [MBZ] Topsider (where to buy, what to get)

Hi all,
 
Well my homemade topsider went belly up last night. Used a bucket

from Home Depot, A vacuum pump and some fittings. Hooked it up to
a vacuum gauges, reaghed about 4Hg and imploded :(
 
So unless someone has a better canister I can use cheap, I was

wondering what everybody else uses and where to buy it from.
 
Thanks
 
George




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[MBZ] FSS countdown

2005-08-26 Thread RELNGSON
I used to think in most cases what they're doing is estimating oil life 
based on
the engine's history -- how many cold starts, how many miles, etc.
There's a complex formula programmed into the computer for it.  It does mean 
you have to use the oil they recommend, or the program might not be correct!

I also used to think that my '01's FSS examined the oil in some highly 
mysterious and scientific way and the result governed the countdown to the next 
change. I have gotten over that idea after a little experiment.

I changed the oil (M1 0W40) and reset the FSS to zero. After 5000 FSS miles 
(5000 to go) I changed the oil and did not reset the FSS. I then compared the 
FSS countdown to the odo reading about every 100 miles until the FSS countdown 
reached 500 miles to B service. At no time did the two mileage readouts vary 
by more than 100 miles.

The point is that if the oil contamination was actually being checked, the 
FSS reading to next service should have lagged behind the odometer's actual 
miles readout.

And it didn't. Anyhow, FSS and the E's electronically controlled brakes have 
been abandoned for '06.

RLE/Seattle/sniffing at the '07 C350. Or maybe C320CDI, I dunno...


Re: [MBZ] More M1

2005-08-26 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 22:16:44 -0600 Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you buy D-1 in gallon jugs at the distrbutor, it's
 usually $24/qt or so. You do the math... but I'm buying mine in 5qt
 jugs!!

I think you mean $24/gal ($6.00/qt) versus the $3.98/qt in the 5 qt jugs.



Craig



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