Re: [MBZ] 87 300D -

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

It was available on euro models, was optional on 84 model 500SEL's and 
standard on 85 500SEL's and standard on 86 and up 126's.


Christopher McCann wrote:


why is your 1980 S class more special than my 85 S
class? Euro version?

Chris

--- Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



the driver airbag had been an s-class option since
MY 1980.

the 6-cyl 300d engine is sweetness. Also, very
little rusting.

I think it was Wilton Strickland who bought a
showroom 87 300D for $9000 or
so, and hasn't been disappointed at all.

On 10/26/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Howdy -
There's a 87 300D on eBay and it says the 6


cylinder is a very reliable MB


diesel -- is that a valid statement?


Traditionally, is the AT, AC,


steering
box, etc., robust on the 87? The seller says it's


a 6 cylinder diesel and


the 6 was only sold here during 1 year. Is that a


correct statement?


If anyone wants to check it out - item 4584603034


- any comments? I'm


looking for a nice strong, safe car for my wife to


drive to work.


The description says it has a drivers side air bag


- When did MB start


putting airbags in their cars?

Thx -

Sincerely,
Larry T (78 240D)

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-1987 300TD, 150K miles, "Rotkäppchen" (Little Red Riding Hood)
-1985 300SD, 209K miles, "Wulf" 
(http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD)
-1976 240D, ManyK miles,  "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen 
= Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running 
WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are 
willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.)
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Re: [MBZ] 87 300D

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

that is the air intake.

Gabriel S. wrote:


I don't know why I thought they had an intercooler, I thought that vent on
the right fender was for that purpose.

On 10/26/05, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



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Re: [MBZ] 450SL FRAME CRACKED??

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

You mean the front subframe is cracked?  Not really a big deal on those 
cars.  I happen to have one sitting here right now all ready to go.  Its 
just a matter of unbolting the 2 engine mounts and suspending the engine 
up, then get the car up in the air and drop the 4 bolts that hold the 
subframe and the whole deal just drops right out.  You will have to move 
some tie rods and stuff out of the way maybe.  After its out of the car, 
just transfer your control arms over and put it back in.


Rich Thomas wrote:

More news re: the 450SL (122k miles) -- buddy took it to his mech who 
has taken care of it for 12 yr.  Guy says the frame is cracked, fears 
putting it on a lift, definitely not driveable.  Did not get a specific 
location but he said it was 10in long on a diagonal somewhere, like it 
had hit something hard or bottomed out hard.   I guess that could 
explain the pulling and what sounded/felt like a clunk somewhere. My 
buddy does not drive the car hard, has not hit anything.  Perplexing.  
I'm going over later with him to have a look, see what the deal is.  
Tried to call the mech to find out exactly where the crack is but he did 
not answer. 


Mech said earlier could be $2k or more to fix, OUCH!

Thoughts?

--R

Rich Thomas wrote:


My buddy brought his sweet 79 450SL over today to rotate tires fnt/bk as 
the fronts were wearing.  Saw someone recently said this was fairly 
normal for this car, so figured I would do that for him then he could go 
get an alignment.  He gets here and says he wants me to check out a 
strong pull to the right.  I drove it around the block, it was pulling a 
bit to the right.  Checked tire inflation, they were all low so I 
brought them to spec 32F 36R per the sticker. Took it out again and it 
was MUCH worse pull to right.  Does not appear to be a RF brake dragging 
(though I thought I felt/heard some light clunking somewhere, it might 
just be that big engine working), so I am guessing alignment is really 
out, which I guess would account for some of the fnt tire wear too.  
Left tire is a bit more worn on the shoulders than the right, but not 
scuffed or scrubbed, just worn down some on the inside/outside tread 
blocks of the Michelins.  Rears are fine.


Any thoughts on this? 

Also, where would I put the floor jack on this car?  The frame rails 
appear to be inboard quite a bit, not under the rockers as on the 123 
wagon, though the jack hole is in the same relative place.  I was going 
to do the tires for him but did not want to punch a hole in the floor or 
something.


The suspension is starting to squeak just a bit both front and rear, 
though I don't think it is yet bad enough to be the reason for the 
pulling, but I don't know on this car.  He did not want to hear about 
that prospect...


Thanks

--R


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Re: [MBZ] 450SL FRAME CRACKED??

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Crap, they charged you that much?  Holy cow, you should have waited till 
I had one, mine would have been at least $100 less.


Rusty Cullens wrote:


It's the subframe that is cracked, MB has a recall on them. If it has
never been replaced they will do it for free. They can tell by VIN
number. Other wise he can buy a used one from PGAuto for $225.00. Ask me
how I know this.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 3:28 PM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 450SL FRAME CRACKED??

More news re: the 450SL (122k miles) -- buddy took it to his mech who 
has taken care of it for 12 yr.  Guy says the frame is cracked, fears 
putting it on a lift, definitely not driveable.  Did not get a specific 
location but he said it was 10in long on a diagonal somewhere, like it 
had hit something hard or bottomed out hard.   I guess that could 
explain the pulling and what sounded/felt like a clunk somewhere. My 
buddy does not drive the car hard, has not hit anything.  Perplexing.  
I'm going over later with him to have a look, see what the deal is.  
Tried to call the mech to find out exactly where the crack is but he did


not answer. 


Mech said earlier could be $2k or more to fix, OUCH!

Thoughts?

--R

Rich Thomas wrote:



My buddy brought his sweet 79 450SL over today to rotate tires fnt/bk


as 

the fronts were wearing.  Saw someone recently said this was fairly 
normal for this car, so figured I would do that for him then he could


go 

get an alignment.  He gets here and says he wants me to check out a 
strong pull to the right.  I drove it around the block, it was pulling


a 

bit to the right.  Checked tire inflation, they were all low so I 
brought them to spec 32F 36R per the sticker. Took it out again and it 
was MUCH worse pull to right.  Does not appear to be a RF brake


dragging 

(though I thought I felt/heard some light clunking somewhere, it might 
just be that big engine working), so I am guessing alignment is really 
out, which I guess would account for some of the fnt tire wear too.  
Left tire is a bit more worn on the shoulders than the right, but not 
scuffed or scrubbed, just worn down some on the inside/outside tread 
blocks of the Michelins.  Rears are fine.


Any thoughts on this? 

Also, where would I put the floor jack on this car?  The frame rails 
appear to be inboard quite a bit, not under the rockers as on the 123 
wagon, though the jack hole is in the same relative place.  I was going




to do the tires for him but did not want to punch a hole in the floor


or 


something.

The suspension is starting to squeak just a bit both front and rear, 
though I don't think it is yet bad enough to be the reason for the 
pulling, but I don't know on this car.  He did not want to hear about 
that prospect...


Thanks

--R


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Re: [MBZ] Trunk lock....Sucess!

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

walmart sells it

Curt Raymond wrote:


About anywhere that would carry something like carb cleaner. FLAPS, Wal-Mart, 
etc..

 


-Curt

 


Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 15:39:50 -0400
From: Ron Dwelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trunk lockSucess!
To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Where do you get this PB Blaster?

Thanks,
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[MBZ] Make great money fast with Benzes

[redghost]

http://www.billingsgazette.com/index.php?id=1&display=rednews/2005/10/ 
25/build/nation/96-armored-cars.inc


Lets up armor our old cars and sell them to the pentagon for six  
figures.  Works for the folks in Iraq.  Wonder if our attempts would be  
better


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Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz

[MBZ] Bluegrass state fuel

[redghost]

http://wfmynews2.com/watercooler/article.aspx?storyid=50807

I think we need to look at getting Kentucky to use its crops to make 
fuel.  And it is not corn or soy



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1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz

[MBZ] Fender intake vent

[RELNGSON]

<>

It's there to reduce or eliminate intake "mooing" which was one of the things 
I objected to in my 300D.

RLE/Seattle/'01 C320

Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D For Sale

[redghost]

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/ 
20051026/SEX26/TPScience/


Why you may not want a married woman with an education.  Gabe may be  
onto something here



On Wednesday, October 26, 2005, at 10:54 AM, Richard Smith wrote:


Most of us call it safe sex!

On 10/25/05, Gabriel S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Of course I'm not married, why would I want to be married, why would  
any

man
want to be married?

On 10/25/05, Gary Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Not married, arre you Gabriel? Nuf said.
Actually, it makes sense if you look at what the insurance company is
raping me for on a car that just sits around.
Gary "choosing his battles carefully"

On 10/25/05, Gabriel S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Wow...thats pretty sad. How could your wife make you get rid of

something

that you bought and worked for?



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Re: [MBZ] 450SL FRAME CRACKED??

[Rich Thomas]

We went over to the indy shop just now and took a look at it.  Shonuff 
the left lower control arm rear bracket was damnear cracked off the 
subframe.  Looked like some of the crack had been there awhile but the 
rest is recent -- nice and shiny where it is separated.  We called 
800formerc and they said the recall was in 84 or 85, take it to the Benz 
dealer and let them deal with it.  The indy suggested replacing whatever 
other suspension rubber bits, maybe ball joints too, while they have the 
whole thing apart, so he will see what the dealer will shaft him for on 
that job, which is getting near due anyway, might as well do it now.


He was lucky to have caught it today as it looked like it was near 
snapping anytime now, which would have definitely ruined his day, and 
perhaps the car too.


Thanks to all who identified this problem -- you were right on!  He was 
amazed that I got quick definitive responses from the list, and will buy 
you a beer, which I will gladly collect for you.


--R

Peter Frederick wrote:

If the front subframe is cracked, hie thee hence to an MB dealer and 
check to see if the recall for a cracked subframe has been done on the 
car.  If not, they will replace it for free as a warrenty job -- if 
not, I happen to have a spare


If it is a front frame horn, it's time to find a good body shop and get 
it welded up -- these cars are fairly valuable, $2000 isn't too much 
for a major fix like that.


Peter


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Re: [MBZ] converting to synthetic oil?

[redghost]

Gump has been on M1 for around 11k miles and I have yet to find a leak

On Wednesday, October 26, 2005, at 12:05 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:



I don't know who this conventional is but he's wrong...

This one comes up ever couple months. I've converted 2 older MBs and 
my gasser Dodge pickup with no issues.




For an MB diesel use the 5w40.



-Curt

'83 240D "Hammie" 247kmi, 40k or so on Mobil 1.



Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 09:37:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Lee Levitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [MBZ] converting to synthetic oil?
To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Are there any issues in converting a 175K miles 2.5L td motor to
synthetic motor oil if it's been using dino in the past?

Conventional wisdom used to be that you could not convert an older
motor to synthetic...that the seals would leak.

I don't know offhand whether the PO of my car used synthetic or
not, will ask...but I plan to run synthetic in New England.

What's the best choice for a synthetic oil in New England? Mobil
1? Special diesel/truck version?

Thoughts?

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Re: [MBZ] Shoehorn

[Mike Piles]

How many miles per tanker truck do you expect to get with that engine?

:-)

Mike

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Subject: [MBZ] Shoehorn


Anyone think I can shoehorn this puppy into my engine bay?
 http://www.bath.ac.uk/~ccsshb/12cyl/

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Re: [MBZ] 87 300D

[Dave M.]

Good point, Marshall. I'm not sure how a bone-stock engine would react
to the extra fuel, and/or a cooler intake charge. There are ways
around this though, and with some mods the EGR can be disabled, so I'm
sure we could get it working well enough. The EDS would likely lose
control over the emissions junk (oh, darn) but the only thing I'd want
working is the ELR anyway - same as on my '87.

=)

-dm

> --
> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 19:53:30 -0400
> From: Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 87 300D
>
>
> Dave M. wrote:
> > Casey is right. An intercooled 2.5T should give equal power to a stock
> > 1987 300D 3.0L, with nearly 20% increase in MPG (assuming you can keep
> > your foot out of it.) I've been toying with the idea of getting a
> > 1990-93 300D 2.5T and maxing out the pump, which should provide close
> > to 150hp, while retaining 34-36mpg on the freeway. An intercooler
> > would be the best, but I'm still working on my water injection
> > experiement... larger nozzles (more water!) are in the mail right now.
> > More on that later.
>
> I would NOT recommend fooling with the EDS control system of the '90s
> 124 300D 2.5 (that doesn't even permit you to disable the EGR). I'm SURE
> it can be done, but it's NOT a a simple plug and play operation and
> faults into "limp home" mode at the slightest provocation. Runs REAL
> nice when left as it was designed!
>
> Marshall

Re: [MBZ] 87 300D

[Mitch Haley]

"Dave M." wrote:
> 
> Good point, Marshall. I'm not sure how a bone-stock engine would react
> to the extra fuel, and/or a cooler intake charge. There are ways
> around this though, and with some mods the EGR can be disabled, so I'm
> sure we could get it working well enough. The EDS would likely lose
> control over the emissions junk (oh, darn) but the only thing I'd want
> working is the ELR anyway - same as on my '87.

It might be cheaper to get a wrecked or rusty 190Dt and a cheap
gasser 124 in need of a valve job. Then you'd have no major problems
taking control of engine function.

[MBZ] SDL

[OK Don]

Donald Snook - this looks like what you're looking for --

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/106676274.html  -- SDL  $3500
Midwest car


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Re: [MBZ] Diesel prices are making me angry

[OK Don]

I think that's called making bioDiesel from WVO -- --

On 10/26/05, Gabriel S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> can't you just buy your own crude oil and refine it yourself?
>

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Re: [MBZ] Diesel prices are making me angry

[OK Don]

Yup - I shouldn't have ragged you about a German word either -- -- and
I do make more than my fair share of typos.

On 10/26/05, Luther Gulseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OH DonFU!  Spelin ahnd mee doon't geht alon.  Sory!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Oct 26, 2005 9:06 AM
> To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Diesel prices are making me angry
>
> Is that like a filter that automatically forwards posts to the banned
> list based on key words? Oh, I think you were refering to Autobahn --
> German highways!
>
> > Now both of you, think about the design ideas that MB was using.  I have 1
> > word for you AUTOBAN.
>

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Re: [MBZ] Sad Death

[OK Don]

Absolutely true - I laughed at the fat long haired guru crawling
around inside the super computer with a soldering iron installing
chips!

The plot was good though. Plenty of twists to keep you interested. I
don't recall a Mercedes though -- --

On 10/26/05, redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> He is a good writer of FICTION.  If you are somebody on the inside, you
> can drive trucks through the holes in his novels.  Still a fun read.
>

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The FSM created the Diesel Benz
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Re: [MBZ] SDL

[Ron Dwelle]

The guy is advertising it all over:

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/car/106394406.html

Ron Dwelle

On Oct 26, 2005, at 8:42 PM, OK Don wrote:

Donald Snook - this looks like what you're looking for --

http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/106676274.html  -- SDL  $3500
Midwest car


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Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D For Sale

[Gabriel S.]

An opinion of mine: Successfull women who support themself are ususally the
ugly ones. The reason is because they have to, no man will support them.
Meanwhile the hot ones don't need to be successfull because they can find a
successfull man to support and pay thier bills. I know it sounds far fetched
but it's true, and yes, of course there are rare exceptions, but that,
generally is the rule. Don't believe me? Do a search on Forbes and look at
"Americans top most successful women".
 Im gonna get grilled for this one. =x


 On 10/26/05, redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/
> 20051026/SEX26/TPScience/
>
> Why you may not want a married woman with an education. Gabe may be
> onto something here
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 26, 2005, at 10:54 AM, Richard Smith wrote:
>
> > Most of us call it safe sex!
> >
> > On 10/25/05, Gabriel S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Of course I'm not married, why would I want to be married, why would
> >> any
> >> man
> >> want to be married?
> >>
> >> On 10/25/05, Gary Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Not married, arre you Gabriel? Nuf said.
> >>> Actually, it makes sense if you look at what the insurance company is
> >>> raping me for on a car that just sits around.
> >>> Gary "choosing his battles carefully"
> >>>
> >>> On 10/25/05, Gabriel S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>  Wow...thats pretty sad. How could your wife make you get rid of
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>
> 1972 220D - Gump
> 1995 E300D - Cleo
> 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
> The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
>
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Southern California
1987 300D 230K=-

Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D For Sale

[Mitch Haley]

"Gabriel S." wrote:
> 
> An opinion of mine: Successfull women who support themself are ususally the
> ugly ones. The reason is because they have to, no man will support them.

Are Barbara Boxer, Diane Fineswine, senator Clinton, and Janet Reno on that
list?

Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D For Sale

[Ron Dwelle]

Michigan's governor isn't particularly ugly. In fact...

On Oct 26, 2005, at 9:23 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

"Gabriel S." wrote:


An opinion of mine: Successfull women who support themself are 
ususally the
ugly ones. The reason is because they have to, no man will support 
them.


Are Barbara Boxer, Diane Fineswine, senator Clinton, and Janet Reno on 
that

list?

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Re: [MBZ] Trunk lock....Sucess!

[Archer]

> Where do you get this PB Blaster?
> Thanks,
> Ron Dwelle

I think I've seen it at NAPA.
Gerry Archer
'83 240D + 300D

> 
> On Oct 26, 2005, at 3:17 PM, Archer wrote:
> Thanks, Curt, I'll have to get a can of that for my shop.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fender intake vent

[Alex Chamberlain]

On 10/26/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> < the right fender was for that purpose.>>
>
> It's there to reduce or eliminate intake "mooing" which was one of the things
> I objected to in my 300D.
>

OK, this is crying out for an explanation.  Intake mooing?  I have
never heard any remotely bovine or even ungulate sounds from my
(fender-vent-less) 300D.  Is this some option I'm missing out on?  Did
Mercedes already replace my second stomach as part of the trap
oxidizer recall?  Is Palomino tex more accurately named than I
realized?  Forget Power Service and used ATF--Marshall, do you have
any experience with adding RGBH to a tank of diesel?  The mind
boggles.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo

[MBZ] 60x powered MBs on eBay

[OK Don]

There sure are a lot of cars up for auction now - I suppose it's the
current Diesel prices?

http://tinyurl.com/cyuv7
http://tinyurl.com/cnr3g
http://tinyurl.com/8xqql
http://tinyurl.com/7j7c4
http://tinyurl.com/8fd85
http://tinyurl.com/7bulc
http://tinyurl.com/dz5qj
http://tinyurl.com/7899g
http://tinyurl.com/7msox
http://tinyurl.com/a43lb
http://tinyurl.com/8qbaq

No affiliation, etc. It does look like the cars are selling for less
now than they did a month or two ago, or is it my wishfull thinking?

--
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
'87 300SDL,  '81 240D,  '78 450SLC
The FSM created the Diesel Benz
http://www.venganza.org/

Re: [MBZ] Trunk lock....Sucess!

[OK Don]

Autozone ---

On 10/26/05, Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Where do you get this PB Blaster?
> > Thanks,
> > Ron Dwelle
>
> I think I've seen it at NAPA.
> Gerry Archer
> '83 240D + 300D
> 

--
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
'87 300SDL,  '81 240D,  '78 450SLC
The FSM created the Diesel Benz
http://www.venganza.org/

Re: [MBZ] Trunk lock....Sucess!

[Mike Canfield]

Wal-Mart has it.   Mike
- Original Message - 
From: "Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 8:57 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trunk lockSucess!



Where do you get this PB Blaster?
Thanks,
Ron Dwelle


I think I've seen it at NAPA.
Gerry Archer
'83 240D + 300D



On Oct 26, 2005, at 3:17 PM, Archer wrote:
Thanks, Curt, I'll have to get a can of that for my shop.


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Re: [MBZ] Fender intake vent

[Marshall Booth]

Alex Chamberlain wrote:


Forget Power Service and used ATF--Marshall, do you have
any experience with adding RGBH to a tank of diesel?  The mind
boggles.


No idea what you're talking about.

Marshall


--
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Ass't Prof. (ret.)
Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine
Department of Pharmacology  1300 BST
Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA
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[MBZ] BZZZZZT

[Kevin]

- Forwarded message -

Mercedes 300ce 1989

Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2005-10-24,  3:08PM 

White '89 Mercedes 2 door coupe. 166k mi. Clean car, has some minor dings. 
Carburetor needs work. Hesitates when cold. good tires, email for cell # 
and showing- $3000 OBO -Rick

Original URL: http://www.craigslist.org/nby/car/106385183.html

- End forwarded message -

Re: [MBZ] Sad Death

[redghost]

My folks worked at NSA and Mom threw the book at me telling me what a 
pile of poop it was.  I laughed.  I told her that DaVinci Code was just 
as bad.  She told me not to bother brining it to her.


On Wednesday, October 26, 2005, at 05:53 PM, OK Don wrote:


Absolutely true - I laughed at the fat long haired guru crawling
around inside the super computer with a soldering iron installing
chips!

The plot was good though. Plenty of twists to keep you interested. I
don't recall a Mercedes though -- --

On 10/26/05, redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
He is a good writer of FICTION.  If you are somebody on the inside, 
you

can drive trucks through the holes in his novels.  Still a fun read.



--
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Norman, OK
'87 300SDL,  '81 240D,  '78 450SLC
The FSM created the Diesel Benz
http://www.venganza.org/

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Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz

Re: [MBZ] Fender intake vent

[Alex Chamberlain]

On 10/26/05, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Alex Chamberlain wrote:
>
> > Forget Power Service and used ATF--Marshall, do you have
> > any experience with adding RGBH to a tank of diesel?  The mind
> > boggles.
>
> No idea what you're talking about.

I meant RBGH.  Recombinant bovine growth hormone.  ;)

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo

[MBZ] test

[Craig McCluskey]

--- 
Craig McCluskey

Present: 1982 240D/3.0 (Euro 1984 617.912 engine, 4-speed) 222 kmi
   Past: 1964 190Dc
 1972 220D/8
 1972 220/8
 1987 190E/2.3

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Re: [MBZ] diesel idling story

[Luther Gulseth]

My company has what's called an Auxillary Power Unit (APU).  It is a small  
1 cyl diesel engine mounted right under the cab.  Is electronically  
controlled, has an a/c compressor, and heater core.  All controlled inside  
the bunk.  Uses 1/8 gallon diesel (from the main truck tanks) per hour.  A  
regular truck idles at about 1 gallon an hour.  I can't wait for the next  
8-12 months to be done and they start trading those trucks and I can buy  
one of these engines.


On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 18:06:47 -0500, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Gabriel S. wrote:

Poor truckers. I leave my car idling as much as possible just because
turning over a diesel seems harder than a gasser.





--
Luther  KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix)
'82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix)
'82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??)

Re: [MBZ] diesel idling story

[OK Don]

Sounds like a good candidate for a Diesel/electric setup -- I want one also.

On 10/26/05, Luther Gulseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My company has what's called an Auxillary Power Unit (APU).  It is a small
> 1 cyl diesel engine mounted right under the cab.  Is electronically
> controlled, has an a/c compressor, and heater core.  All controlled inside
> the bunk.  Uses 1/8 gallon diesel (from the main truck tanks) per hour.  A
> regular truck idles at about 1 gallon an hour.  I can't wait for the next
> 8-12 months to be done and they start trading those trucks and I can buy
> one of these engines.
>

--
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Norman, OK
'87 300SDL,  '81 240D,  '78 450SLC
The FSM created the Diesel Benz
http://www.venganza.org/

[MBZ] Mooing and fender slots

[RELNGSON]

>

<<>>

Mooing: Remember the noise heard when you remove the air cleaner housing from 
an American V-8 and you open the throttle wide? Moo. Jeez.

It's an intake drone which my '78 300D produced from the air intake just 
behind the hood edge. I reduced it by rerouting the intake a bit, installing a 
GM 
diesel intake muffler (this would produce a 1500 word treatise by VanCleef) 
and moving the intake forward a bit to line up with the hood edge. The car was 
more peaceful at freeway speeds after this mod.

Moving the intake completely outside the engine compartment in the 124 was 
even better.

RLE/ Seattle/'01 C320 with no intake noise at all

Re: [MBZ] Diesel Mercedes Motorhome

[Lee Levitt]

Make mine a BlueBird:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1991-40-ft-Bluebird-Wanderlodge-RV-Coach-NR_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ50056QQitemZ4584086317QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

:)

Lee



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> 
> Kind of a nice one.
> 
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> ADME:B:SS:US:1
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 5, Issue 148

[BillR]

 Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 19:55:31 -0700
From: Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fender intake vent
To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

On 10/26/05, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Alex Chamberlain wrote:
>
> > Forget Power Service and used ATF--Marshall, do you have
> > any experience with adding RGBH to a tank of diesel?  The mind
> > boggles.
>
> No idea what you're talking about.

I meant RBGH.  Recombinant bovine growth hormone.  ;)

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo

Alex - That simply boggles the mind - Think my SD could find a cute coupe
and make an SL if I put enough in the tank?
BillR
Jacksonville FL
1981 300SD EM  265K / 200K engine [?]
2001 I30  71K

Re: [MBZ] BZZZZZT

[Alex Chamberlain]

Carburetor?

Yes, I know there are carbs on '80s Benzes sold outside the USA,
but...  how could a person be so thoroughly confused?

On 10/26/05, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> - Forwarded message -
>
> Mercedes 300ce 1989
>
> Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: 2005-10-24,  3:08PM
>
> White '89 Mercedes 2 door coupe. 166k mi. Clean car, has some minor dings.
> Carburetor needs work. Hesitates when cold. good tires, email for cell #
> and showing- $3000 OBO -Rick
>
> Original URL: http://www.craigslist.org/nby/car/106385183.html

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 5, Issue 148

[Alex Chamberlain]

> > > > Forget Power Service and used ATF--Marshall, do you have
> > > > any experience with adding RGBH to a tank of diesel?  The mind
> > > > boggles.
> > >
> > > No idea what you're talking about.
> >
> > I meant RBGH.  Recombinant bovine growth hormone.  ;)
>

> Alex - That simply boggles the mind - Think my SD could find a cute coupe
> and make an SL if I put enough in the tank?
> BillR

Hmm... I think if you cross an SD with an SLC, you get an SDC.  That
is, a Frankenbenz SEC with a diesel under the hood.  (That's what I'd
have built for me if I were filthy rich.  No new cars for me either,
Gabriel.)  But I'm sure somebody else like Kleb or Jim F. with a whole
stable of different cars is better qualified to address the issue of
hybrid Benz-breeding.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo

Re: [MBZ] diesel idling story

[Fmiser]

rumor has it that David wrote:

> Idling for long periods is hard on diesels because it cokes up the 
> injectors.  The heat problem in sleeper cabs was actually solved long 
> ago, though it requires some capital investment -- Stewart-Warner and 
> several other companies make little diesel-fired furnaces for cab heat. 
> Some of them can even preheat the coolant for cold starts.  A/C in hot 
> weather is a tougher problem, of course.

There are small diesel-engined generators - usually called an "APU"
(auxiliary power unit). These provide heat for the sleeper and engine,
A/C for the sleeper, and are _much_ more efficient and clean then the
12-15L main engine.

The down side is space, cost, and weight.

Space isn't a big deal anymore, with the generous overall length
limits.

Cost isn't bad - partly 'cause an APU will decrease operating expenses
and so the cost can be recovered. Eventually.

Weight has been the big one. With a gross weight limit, the lighter
the truck is the more money-earning cargo it can haul. The weight of
an APU can then decrease the trucks earnings. However, I did read that
there is some proposed regulation changes that could make the weight
of an APU exempt from the trucks gross weight. This sound like good
motivation, but might be tricky to implement.

Philip, who dislikes using a sleeper
that's below freezing.

Re: [MBZ] Asking questions

[Fmiser]

rumor has it that BillR wrote:

> just ask it any way you like...they don't answer your questions unless you
> have a signature which shows your car model and year.

Not really.

A name is nice. The car list is optional.

> On 10/25/05, Jerry Herrman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > What specific steps do I take to respond to a question, or to ask a 
> > question in this venue?

> Hi Jerry - As another newbie it can be a bit confusing.  What I do is
> workable, others do it other ways:

> 2. hit reply, click on edit/'select all', the delete everything - OR - just
> do a 'new' post and address it to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'

If you do a "new post", then the headers "message-id" and "references"
are lost.

Many email clients (the program you would use to read/write
email in) can use these headers to show a "thread view" and can keep
them all in the correct order even across time zones. This can be
quite handy if you want to get all the responces for a particular post
- especially on a busy list like this one.

If you use "reply", the message-id and references headers will probably
not be broken. If you make a new post, it definatly will be broken.

> 3. paste the part you are responding to onto the blank page and add an
> appropriate subject in the subject line.

Ah, yes.

Subjects that relate to the content are especially nice! *smile*

> 4. Type away
> It is a good group - though [thankfully] a bit strange at times.

Indeed!!!

Philip, secret member of the "posting police"

Re: [MBZ] diesel idling story

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

yea, I want one too.

Luther Gulseth wrote:

My company has what's called an Auxillary Power Unit (APU).  It is a small  
1 cyl diesel engine mounted right under the cab.  Is electronically  
controlled, has an a/c compressor, and heater core.  All controlled inside  
the bunk.  Uses 1/8 gallon diesel (from the main truck tanks) per hour.  A  
regular truck idles at about 1 gallon an hour.  I can't wait for the next  
8-12 months to be done and they start trading those trucks and I can buy  
one of these engines.


On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 18:06:47 -0500, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Gabriel S. wrote:


Poor truckers. I leave my car idling as much as possible just because
turning over a diesel seems harder than a gasser.








--
Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250
Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts

Re: [MBZ] Diesel prices are making me angry

[John M McIntosh]

Went to fill up the 90's wagon and found diesel jump 50cent a gallon  
here on vancouver island over the last week. More expensive than  
premium now.  Guess it's time for
people to fill up oil tanks for heating so drive that price up,  
record profits next quarter too I'll bet.


John
1983 300TDt  358k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1990 300TDt  151k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1993 500SEL 168k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40)

Re: [MBZ] diesel idling story

[Luther Gulseth]

Hrm, interesting regulation changescan you provide links to the site?   
I'm VERY interested


On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 23:30:21 -0500, Fmiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


rumor has it that David wrote:


Idling for long periods is hard on diesels because it cokes up the
injectors.  The heat problem in sleeper cabs was actually solved long
ago, though it requires some capital investment -- Stewart-Warner and
several other companies make little diesel-fired furnaces for cab heat.
Some of them can even preheat the coolant for cold starts.  A/C in hot
weather is a tougher problem, of course.


There are small diesel-engined generators - usually called an "APU"
(auxiliary power unit). These provide heat for the sleeper and engine,
A/C for the sleeper, and are _much_ more efficient and clean then the
12-15L main engine.

The down side is space, cost, and weight.

Space isn't a big deal anymore, with the generous overall length
limits.

Cost isn't bad - partly 'cause an APU will decrease operating expenses
and so the cost can be recovered. Eventually.

Weight has been the big one. With a gross weight limit, the lighter
the truck is the more money-earning cargo it can haul. The weight of
an APU can then decrease the trucks earnings. However, I did read that
there is some proposed regulation changes that could make the weight
of an APU exempt from the trucks gross weight. This sound like good
motivation, but might be tricky to implement.

Philip, who dislikes using a sleeper
that's below freezing.





--
Luther  KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix)
'82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix)
'82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??)

[MBZ] adjusting the vcv to lessen transmission firm shifting.

[John M McIntosh]

Well beyond tackling the issue of cycling hot/cold cabin temp in the  
90's wagon, pick is it the sensor, or the control unit. I've noticed  
the shifting is quite *FIRM* I was reading up on adjust the vcv that  
sits on the IP and  feeds the transmission modulator. People talk  
about undoing the two bolts and turning CW or CCW/ So which direction  
would it be to make less firm under slight to no load, full  
acceleration seems ok btw.


Just to complicate things on the non-87 engine the vcv does NOT have  
two bolts, It appears that you can turn it, but I've not attempted  
that yet.  Most likely I need to put a vacuum gauge on it to see what  
psi it pulls too, although I don't know what the behaviour (vacuum  
range) should be.


John
1983 300TDt  358k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1990 300TDt  151k Kilometers (mobil 1 Delvac)
1993 500SEL 168k Kilometers (mobil 1 0w40)

Re: [MBZ] ConocoPhillips PROFIT up 89% this quarter - NICE!

[Alex Chamberlain]

Just looking at the numbers given in the story, gross revenues were
$49.7 billion versus $34.7 billion for the same quarter last year, an
increase of about 40%, while net profit was reported as having
increased 89%.  So their profit margin seems to have increased
significantly.  Doesn't necessarily mean they're price-gouging, but it
certainly sounds fishy on the face of it.

On 10/26/05, Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Replying to myself...I was thinking about this over
> lunch...I wonder what their revenue to profit ratio
> was before and what it is now...if it's the same, then
> it wouldn't be gouging...
>
> Chris
>
> --- Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051026/bs_nm/energy_conocophillips_earns_dc_4

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo

Re: [MBZ] (no subject)

[Alex Chamberlain]

Yes, and make sure they're totally bizarre and would make no sense to
anyone outside our little cult.  My current favorite is "Mooing and
fender slots."

On 10/26/05, redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Subject lines help a bunch too
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 25, 2005, at 08:58 PM, Gabriel S. wrote:
>
> > just ask it any way you like...they don't answer your questions unless
> > you
> > have a signature which shows your car model and year.
> >
> > On 10/25/05, Jerry Herrman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> What specific steps do I take to respond to a question, or to ask a
> >> question in this venue?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Jerry
> >>
> >>
> >> _

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo

Re: [MBZ] diesel idling story

[Mitch Haley]

Fmiser wrote:
> I did read that
> there is some proposed regulation changes that could make the weight
> of an APU exempt from the trucks gross weight. This sound like good
> motivation, but might be tricky to implement.

If your ultralight aircraft has a ballistic parachute, it can be heavier
than the normal limit. I believe the parachute adds about 25lb to the
weight limit. Maybe a APU equipped truck could be allowed an extra 300lb
or so?

Re: [MBZ] Sad Death

[TimothyPilgrim]

That's right. It IS fiction, and as long we the reader understands
that, all is good and well. I find his books riveting, but that
doesn't mean I believe them to the T.

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 10/26/05, redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> He is a good writer of FICTION.  If you are somebody on the inside, you
> can drive trucks through the holes in his novels.  Still a fun read.

Re: [MBZ] Asking questions

[OK Don]

A slight clarification - you need to tell us what model and year car
your question refers to.

On 10/26/05, Fmiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> rumor has it that BillR wrote:
>
> > just ask it any way you like...they don't answer your questions unless you
> > have a signature which shows your car model and year.
>
> Not really.
>
> A name is nice. The car list is optional.
>

--
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
'87 300SDL,  '81 240D,  '78 450SLC
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Re: [MBZ] converting to synthetic oil?

[secbyte]

I have heard and had personal experience when changing over to MOBIL1 in 
an engine that was origionally run on dino that after a while it leaks. 
 There is something missing in the oil to swell the gaskets, or 
something like that.  Not that I don't swear by MOBIL 1,  My engines 
seem to last forever on the stuff and I love it.  I wish I could get it 
to stop leaking though.  Anybody else hear of this?


George Mason

Marshall Booth wrote:

Peter Frederick wrote:

	Use Delvac 1 or Truck and SUV Mobil 1 -- the same thing, but Delvac 
comes in gallon containers.



Mobil 1 Truck & SUV is sold in 5 qt containers at SOME Wal-Marts for 
much less than Delvac in in one gallon jugs.



You should have no issues at all, but I would get an extra oil filter 
and change it 1000 miles after putting the Mobil 1 in -- a huge amount 
of sludge will come loose if it's been run on dino  oil, and this will 
clog the filter pretty fast.



While I agree that Mobil 1 will dissolve much/most sludge, - the 
operative word is DISSOLVE - and my opinion is that the need to change 
the oil/filter before the factory suggested interval would rarely be 
necessary. I've change over many high mileage diesel engines to M-1 and 
there was NEVER any evidence of anything close to filter occlusion. 
Still, the filter change will certainly hurt NOTHING.


Marshall

Re: [MBZ] MB Car Fax 1979 240 D

[degcoast]

Tom,
I will reply to the whole list so other 240D groupies can add, argue, etc 
with my post.
I get about 26 highway mileage with an automatic and at least 240K miles on 
it. Dead odo said 214 when I got it 3 years ago. Curt Raymond recently 
posted his mileage on his  stick 2240D -28 mpg over several thousand miles. 
I  have the valves adjusted once a year faithfully-seem to help.
Main quirk is they are slow-more than you might imagine compared to a 77 non 
turbo 300D.  In fact with the possible exception of my old  50 Dodge pickup 
with fluid drive that I had when I lived in state College, this may be the 
slowest car (power to weight) I ever drove. Means that you have to think 
about gravity-I am a cyclist so the two are similar. Only time I really 
worry is when I have long uphill merge onto I 95. You really to plan that 
one. I commute 3-500 miles a week in mine. I call it a good middle lane 
car-Around town it is just fine.
Final point-I love its simplicity and its fine engineering. What a 
combination IMHO. With 75k on the one you are looking at might be a sweet 
car.
All of this being said,  I have just bought a 1990 300D 2.5. But I will keep 
the 240D still as a daily driver. I don't know how to compare the 79 with 
other years other than I like the old style painted hub caps over the bundt 
wheels..

Hope this helps.
Dwight.

Dwight Giles
1979 240D auto 244k + miles
1990 300D 2.5t 127K miles
Wickford, RI


Dwight, I am looking at a 1979 240D, with 75,000 miles confirmed through 
service records.


I owe a 1977 300D.  Please your thoughts on the 1979 240D.   How is 
mileage on highway?  How is car in general.  Any quirks on that year?


Regards Tom Scordato
Bellefonte PA
-  

Re: [MBZ] converting to synthetic oil?

[Gabriel S.]

I think that synthetic oil making your car leak is an old wise tale that
isn't so wise.

On 10/27/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have heard and had personal experience when changing over to MOBIL1 in
> an engine that was origionally run on dino that after a while it leaks.
> There is something missing in the oil to swell the gaskets, or
> something like that. Not that I don't swear by MOBIL 1, My engines
> seem to last forever on the stuff and I love it. I wish I could get it
> to stop leaking though. Anybody else hear of this?
>
> George Mason
>
> Marshall Booth wrote:
> > Peter Frederick wrote:
> >
> >> Use Delvac 1 or Truck and SUV Mobil 1 -- the same thing, but Delvac
> >>comes in gallon containers.
> >
> >
> > Mobil 1 Truck & SUV is sold in 5 qt containers at SOME Wal-Marts for
> > much less than Delvac in in one gallon jugs.
> >
> >
> >>You should have no issues at all, but I would get an extra oil filter
> >>and change it 1000 miles after putting the Mobil 1 in -- a huge amount
> >>of sludge will come loose if it's been run on dino oil, and this will
> >>clog the filter pretty fast.
> >
> >
> > While I agree that Mobil 1 will dissolve much/most sludge, - the
> > operative word is DISSOLVE - and my opinion is that the need to change
> > the oil/filter before the factory suggested interval would rarely be
> > necessary. I've change over many high mileage diesel engines to M-1 and
> > there was NEVER any evidence of anything close to filter occlusion.
> > Still, the filter change will certainly hurt NOTHING.
> >
> > Marshall
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] HCCI and 'what is a diesel

[ned kleinhenz]

<< Regardless of how the fuel is ignited, diesel contains roughly 30%
more BTU's than gasoline.>>

Dave - According to my reference books that is not accurate.

According to "Internal Combustion Engines" a mechanical engineering text
book by Obert -

Motor gasoline - 20,300 Btu/lb or 124,300 Btu/gal

Diesel No 2 - 19,700 Btu/lb or 137,000 Btu/gal

Diesel fuel contains about 10% more chemical energy than gasoline.
Diesel No 1 values are similar.
The hottest of any fuel oil is "No 5 light" at 151,000 Btu/gal. But No 5
light is very dense and viscous.

Ned Kleinhenz

Re: [MBZ] diesel idling story

[Gabriel S.]

Is leaving your diesel idling really all that bad? I suspect it isn't. I'll
tell you this much, my boat has a Straight 6 Volvo Diesel and I idle that
thing all day long when trolling for fish and still no ill effects. I don't
know what it is about my car, but even though she lights up on the first
crank I still find it harder to start than a gasser, who knows, maybe its
the effort required to turn the key on a Benz thats harder, all I can say is
that I tend to leave her running when possible.

 On 10/26/05, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Gabriel S. wrote:
> >Poor truckers. I leave my car idling as much as possible just because
> >turning over a diesel seems harder than a gasser.
> >
>
> I don't know...I think a diesel is actually *easier* to start than a
> gasser once it's warmed up. It's only cold starts that are tough. The
> most extreme examples of this are the normally-aspirated IDI VW diesels,
> which, when fully warmed up, will consistently fire on the first
> compression stroke, even with no glow cycle. I once push-started a
> friend's VW Dasher by hand after his starter failed, and we got it going
> by popping the clutch in reverse after I'd rolled it about five feet to
> build up momentum. Piece of cake.
>
> Idling for long periods is hard on diesels because it cokes up the
> injectors. The heat problem in sleeper cabs was actually solved long
> ago, though it requires some capital investment -- Stewart-Warner and
> several other companies make little diesel-fired furnaces for cab heat.
> Some of them can even preheat the coolant for cold starts. A/C in hot
> weather is a tougher problem, of course.
>
>
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1987 300D 230K=-

Re: [MBZ] converting to synthetic oil?

[Levi Smith]

I've seen firsthand how synthetic can clean out crud in your system that was
plugging a leak and you end up with a new leak. However, I've had plenty of
other vehicles that DIDN'T start leaking. There's really no way of knowing
if you have any "plugged leaks" that the synthetic will clean out for you
until you try it...

I definitely recommend synthetic, but I also recommend keeping a good eye on
your car before, during and after so that you'll know if it starts using
more oil or anything.
I also wouldn't advise changing right before you head out on a big trip
either. (Nothing like heading out to move to your new location 4 hours away,
get 30 miles into the trip and have smoke pouring out of your hood from oil
spraying on the turbo/exhaust from a new pinhole leak from the turbo oil
feed line...)

Personally, in my 83' 300D I started out with regular dino diesel, now I'm
on Synthetic blend, and next will be full-on synthetic. So far, not bad at
all. Maybe a quart every 3-5K miles...

Levi


On 10/27/05, Gabriel S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I think that synthetic oil making your car leak is an old wise tale that
> isn't so wise.
>
>

Re: [MBZ] Mooing and fender slots

[Gabriel S.]

Wow! See that's exactly the sound that's coming from my engine and has
gotten louder lately. Why? Marshall said I could have a broken exhaust
manifold but I know that choo choo train sound of a broken manifold when i
hear it (i owned a Nissan) =(

On 10/26/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  things I objected to in my 300D.>>
>
> <<>>
>
> Mooing: Remember the noise heard when you remove the air cleaner housing
> from
> an American V-8 and you open the throttle wide? Moo. Jeez.
>
> It's an intake drone which my '78 300D produced from the air intake just
> behind the hood edge. I reduced it by rerouting the intake a bit,
> installing a GM
> diesel intake muffler (this would produce a 1500 word treatise by
> VanCleef)
> and moving the intake forward a bit to line up with the hood edge. The car
> was
> more peaceful at freeway speeds after this mod.
>
> Moving the intake completely outside the engine compartment in the 124 was
> even better.
>
> RLE/ Seattle/'01 C320 with no intake noise at all
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Re: [MBZ] diesel idling story

[Luther Gulseth]

It is bad.  It lowers your fuel economy.  It causes build up of carbon on your 
injectors, prechambers, and in the piston chambers.  This is bad and requires 
Diesel Purge (purchased from Rusty) and many "italian tuneups" to correct the 
problem.  Allowing the carbon build up to continue with out correcting the 
cause and cleaning it out can lead to the death of your engine.  It is bad.

Luther

-Original Message-
From: "Gabriel S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Oct 27, 2005 10:33 AM
To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] diesel idling story

Is leaving your diesel idling really all that bad? I suspect it isn't. I'll
tell you this much, my boat has a Straight 6 Volvo Diesel and I idle that
thing all day long when trolling for fish and still no ill effects. I don't
know what it is about my car, but even though she lights up on the first
crank I still find it harder to start than a gasser, who knows, maybe its
the effort required to turn the key on a Benz thats harder, all I can say is
that I tend to leave her running when possible.




Luther   KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix)
'82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi

Re: [MBZ] diesel idling story

[Gabriel S.]

Ahhh ic...I do Italian Tuneups on a daily basis though...diesel purge? Gonna
have to pick me up a bottle of that.

On 10/27/05, Luther Gulseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It is bad. It lowers your fuel economy. It causes build up of carbon on
> your injectors, prechambers, and in the piston chambers. This is bad and
> requires Diesel Purge (purchased from Rusty) and many "italian tuneups" to
> correct the problem. Allowing the carbon build up to continue with out
> correcting the cause and cleaning it out can lead to the death of your
> engine. It is bad.
>
> Luther
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "Gabriel S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Oct 27, 2005 10:33 AM
> To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] diesel idling story
>
> Is leaving your diesel idling really all that bad? I suspect it isn't.
> I'll
> tell you this much, my boat has a Straight 6 Volvo Diesel and I idle that
> thing all day long when trolling for fish and still no ill effects. I
> don't
> know what it is about my car, but even though she lights up on the first
> crank I still find it harder to start than a gasser, who knows, maybe its
> the effort required to turn the key on a Benz thats harder, all I can say
> is
> that I tend to leave her running when possible.
>
>
>
>
> Luther KB5QHU
> Alma, Ark
> '83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix)
> '82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi
>
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Re: [MBZ] diesel idling story

[Rich Thomas]

So Rusty has the Deisel Purge and we can get Italian Tuneups on eBay?  
Is that right?


--R

Luther Gulseth wrote:


It is bad.  It lowers your fuel economy.  It causes build up of carbon on your injectors, 
prechambers, and in the piston chambers.  This is bad and requires Diesel Purge 
(purchased from Rusty) and many "italian tuneups" to correct the problem.  
Allowing the carbon build up to continue with out correcting the cause and cleaning it 
out can lead to the death of your engine.  It is bad.

Luther

-Original Message-
From: "Gabriel S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Oct 27, 2005 10:33 AM
To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] diesel idling story

Is leaving your diesel idling really all that bad? I suspect it isn't. I'll
tell you this much, my boat has a Straight 6 Volvo Diesel and I idle that
thing all day long when trolling for fish and still no ill effects. I don't
know what it is about my car, but even though she lights up on the first
crank I still find it harder to start than a gasser, who knows, maybe its
the effort required to turn the key on a Benz thats harder, all I can say is
that I tend to leave her running when possible.




Luther   KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix)
'82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi

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Re: [MBZ] diesel idling story

[degcoast]

Only on the Italian e-bay site,not the US one.
Dwight Giles
1979 240D auto 244k + miles
1990 300D 2.5t 127K miles
Wickford, RI

- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Luther Gulseth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mercedes mailing list" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] diesel idling story



So Rusty has the Deisel Purge and we can get Italian Tuneups on eBay?
Is that right?

Re: [MBZ] HCCI and 'what is a diesel

[dave walton]

The specific BTU's vary widely. Both gasoline and diesel are blended
according to the ambient temperature where they are sold and the local
emission regulations. You can find many different numbers. In fact,
the winter blend of diesel sold at the pump may have 30,000 fewer
BTU's than the summer blend. That is why I said "roughly". If you take
comparative products sold in a given market at the same time, you will
indeed see "roughly" 30% more BTU's in the diesel. I will admit that
during winter in the north, the percentage difference is reduced. Some
States or Counties mandate a 10% ethanol blend in gasoline. Some
cities have been targeted by the EPA to reduce tailpipe emissions.
That screws up the numbers even more. I worked at British Petroleum
for 10 years and did not make these numbers up.

Hope this helps...

-Dave Walton
94 S350
99 E300

On 10/27/05, ned kleinhenz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> << Regardless of how the fuel is ignited, diesel contains roughly 30%
> more BTU's than gasoline.>>
>
> Dave - According to my reference books that is not accurate.
>
> According to "Internal Combustion Engines" a mechanical engineering text
> book by Obert -
>
> Motor gasoline - 20,300 Btu/lb or 124,300 Btu/gal
>
> Diesel No 2 - 19,700 Btu/lb or 137,000 Btu/gal
>
> Diesel fuel contains about 10% more chemical energy than gasoline.
> Diesel No 1 values are similar.
> The hottest of any fuel oil is "No 5 light" at 151,000 Btu/gal. But No 5
> light is very dense and viscous.
>
> Ned Kleinhenz
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[MBZ] Is this bad for your engine?

[Gabriel S.]

http://dieselgiant.com/thermostatreplacementandmodif.htm

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Southern California
1987 300D 230K=-

Re: [MBZ] converting to synthetic oil?

[l02turner]

My experience when converting to Synthetic from Dino has been: existing 
leaks get *slightly* worse but no new leaks appear and after a while - 
3000-1 miles - the existing leaks improve or leak slower and sometimes 
stop leaking completely.  I've done this on a '74 Porsche 911, Mercedes 
240D, 89 Ford Van withV8, Chev Tahoe, 92 Olds & 97 Chrysler.  All have 
benefitted from the change - they've gotten quieter, fuel mileage improves, 
& they seem to run better - but that's just a "feeling".   Once I finish the 
restoration of my MGB it'll get the "change" also.  ;-)


Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, '78 240D w/284,xxx)

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For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info 

Re: [MBZ] Is this bad for your engine?

[Levi Smith]

I'd say he described it pretty well. It's a last ditch effort. If you car is
always overheating, you might want to try it. Otherwise, there's no reason
to do it anyway...

Levi

On 10/27/05, Gabriel S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> http://dieselgiant.com/thermostatreplacementandmodif.htm
>
> --
> Gabriel Soto
> Southern California
> 1987 300D 230K=-
> _

Re: [MBZ] diesel idling story

[Fmiser]

rumor has it that Luther wrote:

> Hrm, interesting regulation changescan you provide links to the site?   
> I'm VERY interested
> 
> > However, I did read that
> > there is some proposed regulation changes that could make the weight
> > of an APU exempt from the trucks gross weight. This sound like good
> > motivation, but might be tricky to implement.

I think it was in print somewhere...

And it was in the last 6 months or so...

But that's all I rememeber. (old age forgetfulness, I'm sure)

Philip, whose much better at remembering data 
than where that data came from.

Re: [MBZ] 60x powered MBs on eBay

[Rick Knoble]

> No affiliation, etc. It does look like the cars are selling for less
> now than they did a month or two ago, or is it my wishfull thinking?
Wishful thinking. Ebay bidders are still on crack
My 2¢
Rick Knoble
1985 300 CD

Re: [MBZ] diesel idling story

[Rich Thomas]

Do they ship by UPS and do I have to pay some kind of broker fees and 
taxes (for the good of the country)?


--R

degcoast wrote:


Only on the Italian e-bay site,not the US one.
Dwight Giles
1979 240D auto 244k + miles
1990 300D 2.5t 127K miles
Wickford, RI

- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Luther Gulseth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mercedes mailing list" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] diesel idling story


 


So Rusty has the Deisel Purge and we can get Italian Tuneups on eBay?
Is that right?


   




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Re: [MBZ] diesel idling story

[Luther Gulseth]

dangit, you're no help to the company I work for..

-Original Message-
From: Fmiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Oct 27, 2005 11:19 AM
To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] diesel idling story

rumor has it that Luther wrote:

> Hrm, interesting regulation changescan you provide links to the site?   
> I'm VERY interested
> 
> > However, I did read that
> > there is some proposed regulation changes that could make the weight
> > of an APU exempt from the trucks gross weight. This sound like good
> > motivation, but might be tricky to implement.

I think it was in print somewhere...

And it was in the last 6 months or so...

But that's all I rememeber. (old age forgetfulness, I'm sure)

Philip, whose much better at remembering data 
than where that data came from.


Luther   KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix)
'82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi

Re: [MBZ] diesel idling story

[Luther Gulseth]

Tongue'n'cheek I hope.

-Original Message-
From: degcoast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Oct 27, 2005 10:51 AM
To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] diesel idling story

Only on the Italian e-bay site,not the US one.
Dwight Giles
1979 240D auto 244k + miles
1990 300D 2.5t 127K miles
Wickford, RI


Luther   KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix)
'82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi

Re: [MBZ] Is this bad for your engine?

[Marshall Booth]

Gabriel S. wrote:
http://dieselgiant.com/thermostatreplacementandmodif.htm 


THIS IS REALLY bad for your engine (will about double engine wear) and 
defeats the primary purpose of the thermostat (which is to PREVENT 
cooling until the engine reaches the optimal temperature range)! Once 
the engine reaches the upper end of that range, if the thermostat is 
operating correctly, it causes absolutely NO restriction of cooling. 
Mercedes cooling systems are NOT marginal or underrated - UNLESS they 
are abused or maintenance is neglected. If you start with a new system 
and change the fluid every few years as directed, using the appropriate 
formula antifreeze, and perform the required maintenance jobs in a 
timely manner, the diesel cooling systems will virtually NEVER overheat.


Some of the gasoline engines seem to get a little hotter than seems 
right to me, but my experience with them is very limited.


Marshall
--
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Ass't Prof. (ret.)
Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine
Department of Pharmacology  1300 BST
Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA
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Re: [MBZ] converting to synthetic oil?

[Steve MacSween]

Thanks, Dave. I guess it's just my memory shot, I *thought* I had used 10w30
in my old SD for the winters before it was switched to AMSOIL.

Just FWIW (honestly not trying to start an AMSOIL vs. M-1 thread), AMSOIL
claims one of ts 20w50 synthetic products as a year-round leave-in oil. I
was running it at the end in my w116.

Mac

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Mac, because:
> 
> 1) No xW-30 (or thinner) oil is allowed in any MB engines
> 
> 2) With synthetics, there is no need for super-thin oils in winter.
> Even the 15W-50 weight of Mobil-1 will allow better starting than most
> any xW-30 dino oil.

Re: [MBZ] Is this bad for your engine?

[PONDERSOA]

 
In a message dated 10/27/2005 11:06:47 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

http://dieselgiant.com/thermostatreplacementandmodif.htm




this is not a good idea...  the reason why is all engines  are  designed to 
work in certain parameters  if a engine does not reach proper  op temp one of  
things that will happen is water ( from oxidizing  hydrocarbons ) will form 
,and not be effectively be removed form the engine  /exhaust ect 
 this water will begin to form in the oil  (really causing a  mess) 
 in short 
 i have never heard of any modern cars with a marginal cooling  system 
 they really would not be around long 
 keep in mind there is a LOT or engineering that goes in to   automobiles   ( 
some of it is completely OVER engineered  to a  point of sillyness  or 
beautifully designed  but the bean  counters put crappy parts in ...that's a 
different story!) but major  components  like a cooling systems ... usually are 
all 
ways on point 
 in short  start from the beginning and find the cause of the  over heating 
problem  
i am avail if you have any questions> 
 
 
collins 
1985 500 sec 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

[MBZ] Exxon Mobil posted a quarterly profit of $9.9 billion - largest in U.S. corporate history

[Christopher McCann]

http://finance.myway.com/jsp/nw/nwdt_rt.jsp?section=news&feed=bus&src=202&news_id=bus-rob743705&date=20051027



Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri
-1987 300TD, 150K miles, "Rotkäppchen" (Little Red Riding Hood)
-1985 300SD, 209K miles, "Wulf" 
(http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD)
-1976 240D, ManyK miles,  "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen 
= Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running 
WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this 
unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.)
-1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38" deck, Snowcaster, "One Banger"




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Re: [MBZ] converting to synthetic oil?

[Fmiser]

rumor has it that [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I have heard and had personal experience when changing over to MOBIL1 in 
> an engine that was origionally run on dino that after a while it leaks. 
>   There is something missing in the oil to swell the gaskets, or 
> something like that.  Not that I don't swear by MOBIL 1,  My engines 
> seem to last forever on the stuff and I love it.  I wish I could get it 
> to stop leaking though.  Anybody else hear of this?
> 
> George Mason
> 
> Marshall Booth wrote:
> > Peter Frederick wrote:
> > 
> >>Use Delvac 1 or Truck and SUV Mobil 1 -- the same thing, but Delvac 
> >>comes in gallon containers.
> > 
> > 
> > Mobil 1 Truck & SUV is sold in 5 qt containers at SOME Wal-Marts for 
> > much less than Delvac in in one gallon jugs.

I have switched about 4 W123s to running Mobil 1. On each of them, the
oil leaks have _decreased_. Each of them had at least 130,000 miles
and no records of previous maintenance.

And Marshall has mentioned numerous times that Mobil 1 has additives
that will improve the function of engine seals. If your leak is from a
gasket, that may not help much.

So from where is _your_ engine leaking? Oil filter housing? Turbo
drain? If we know where the oils coming out, we might be able to give
you some ideas on how to stop the leaking.

 Philip, admitted Mobil 1 fan

Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D For Sale

[David Brodbeck]

Gabriel S. wrote:

think about it like this: if you were seriously rolling in it 200k on a car
would be a drop in the bucket.
 


You're assuming there are $200k cars out there that I'm interested in.

If I were going to spend $200k, it'd be on an airplane.

Re: [MBZ] diesel idling story

[Marshall Booth]

Gabriel S. wrote:

Is leaving your diesel idling really all that bad? I suspect it isn't. I'll
tell you this much, my boat has a Straight 6 Volvo Diesel and I idle that
thing all day long when trolling for fish and still no ill effects. I don't
know what it is about my car, but even though she lights up on the first
crank I still find it harder to start than a gasser, who knows, maybe its
the effort required to turn the key on a Benz thats harder, all I can say is
that I tend to leave her running when possible.


Prolonged idling a diesel engine is NOT desirable. Mercedes cautioned in 
the owner's manual of my '60s diesels that if it was anticipated that 
the engine would be idling for more than 2 minutes, then the engine 
should be shut down and then restarted. The same is true of today's 
diesels. The running of diesels at very low loads has many damaging 
consequences both to the engine and to the environment. There are of 
course times when idling is necessary, but it should be done with the 
knowledge that the engine is likely to sustain much more wear/damage 
than if it were pulling a full load at near maximum speed.


As to your engine being "harder" to start than a gas car - that's 
largely because it's primarily spark that initiates combustion in a 
gasoline car while the combustion of a diesel is initiated by 
compression. A diesel engine must be tight enough to permit the 
compression to develop and the starter must work more than twice as hard 
in a Mercedes diesel vs a Mercedes gasoline car because of the greater 
compression ratio of the diesel.


For whatever reason, compared to other Mercedes diesels, OM601 engines 
are VERY easy to start in VERY cold weather (most will start on the 1st 
compression stroke of the first cylinder once the plugs approach 1100 
deg. C), OM602s are harder to start and OM603 engines are much harder to 
start. Most of the OM61x engines (both 4 and 5 cylinder) I've owned fell 
in with the 602 engines as far a starting ease goes. If you allow them 
sufficient time to reach maximal glow plug temp, they start on the 2nd 
or 3rd compression stroke (until temps get down to or below zero F).


I believe that the difference between the 4, 5 and 6 cylinder OM60x 
engines is because the battery, starter and the wiring capacity (current 
capacity) for the glow plugs are all the same in these engines. So the 
available battery power is divided into 4 cylinders for the 601 engine, 
into 5 cylinders for the 602 engine and into 6 cylinders for the 603 
engine. Remember, the voltage drop within the battery and wiring to the 
plugs dissipate almost 20% of the available power. The voltage drop 
within the battery (all the same sized batteries in MY cars) and wiring 
to the plugs is least in the 601 (going to 4 plugs) and most in the 603 
(going to 6 plugs). Finally, identical starters and batteries to power 
them are turning and generating compression  in 4, 5 and 6 cylinders 
every two revolutions resulting in the least load (and fastest cranking 
speed) for the 4 cylinder engine.


With OM61x engines, it's critical that before temps drop below freezing 
the valves be checked for sufficient clearance so that there is NO 
leakage even at the coldest anticipated temperatures. Improperly 
adjusted valves is the second most common cause of poor/no cold starting 
reported in Mercedes OM61x or older diesels.


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] diesel idling story

[TimothyPilgrim]

So what is the number 1 reason?

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

> With OM61x engines, it's critical that before temps drop below freezing
> the valves be checked for sufficient clearance so that there is NO
> leakage even at the coldest anticipated temperatures. Improperly
> adjusted valves is the second most common cause of poor/no cold starting
> reported in Mercedes OM61x or older diesels.

Re: [MBZ] diesel idling story

[Marshall Booth]

TimothyPilgrim wrote:

So what is the number 1 reason?



With OM61x engines, it's critical that before temps drop below freezing
the valves be checked for sufficient clearance so that there is NO
leakage even at the coldest anticipated temperatures. Improperly
adjusted valves is the second most common cause of poor/no cold starting
reported in Mercedes OM61x or older diesels.


Failure of the preglow system, most often glow plug(s), glow plug fuse 
or rarely glow plug relay.


Marshall
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Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D For Sale

[Gabriel S.]

True...with that much money i would be me a Bonanza or a Grumman Cougar.

On 10/27/05, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Gabriel S. wrote:
> >think about it like this: if you were seriously rolling in it 200k on a
> car
> >would be a drop in the bucket.
> >
>
> You're assuming there are $200k cars out there that I'm interested in.
>
> If I were going to spend $200k, it'd be on an airplane.
>
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Re: [MBZ] converting to synthetic oil?

[Marshall Booth]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have heard and had personal experience when changing over to MOBIL1 in 
an engine that was origionally run on dino that after a while it leaks. 
  There is something missing in the oil to swell the gaskets, or 
something like that.  Not that I don't swear by MOBIL 1,  My engines 
seem to last forever on the stuff and I love it.  I wish I could get it 
to stop leaking though.  Anybody else hear of this?


Mobil 1 HAS in it an additive that will stop modest leaks (that were 
caused by conventional oil swelling the original seals and wear reducing 
the material). Most owners that have small leaks and switch to M-1 find 
that after several changes, the leaks seal or are at least diminished. 
If you have holes that are plugged by sludge or combustion residue, the 
M-1 will dissolve them and the leak MAY commence, but only because the 
ALREADY damaged or improperly sealed engine has been cleaned.


An engine that's not maintained or one that's abused (and overfilling 
with oil or frequently topping up the oil BEFORE it reaches the ADD mark 
IS abuse) will start to leak no matter what oil is in it. If it started 
leaking after you changed to M-1, who's to say it wouldn't have started 
leaking had you NOT changed - it wasn't just time to start leaking?


WHERE is it leaking? The first step it to identify the precise location 
and cause of the leak. Once you know where and why the leak you repair it!


Marshall
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Ass't Prof. (ret.)
Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine
Department of Pharmacology  1300 BST
Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA
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[MBZ] Bizarre-ness

[RELNGSON]

<>

Thank you. I suppose instead I could post diesel prices near me, starting a 
mad dash from hundreds of miles away to save a nickel per gallon. Maybe a few 
Ebay and Craigs list links just to top it off.

RLE/Seattle

Re: [MBZ] Faerie Tales was Sad Death

[redghost]

Sort of like "Commander in Chief" which hilary clintoon is deep in 
supporting with former white house staffers.  Poor sap woman president 
goes for the "soft" and "we can all work together" solutions.  Evil 
republicans and hardliners are out to destroy amerika.  Interesting to 
watch, but keep reminding myself, pure fiction and fairy tales.  Within 
hours any woman president would have to grow some gonads


On Thursday, October 27, 2005, at 03:24 AM, TimothyPilgrim wrote:


That's right. It IS fiction, and as long we the reader understands
that, all is good and well. I find his books riveting, but that
doesn't mean I believe them to the T.

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 10/26/05, redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
He is a good writer of FICTION.  If you are somebody on the inside, 
you

can drive trucks through the holes in his novels.  Still a fun read.


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The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz

Re: [MBZ] diesel idling story

[redghost]

Rusty has lots of purge and LT Don is selling tune up on eBay, that is 
affirmative


On Thursday, October 27, 2005, at 07:49 AM, Rich Thomas wrote:


So Rusty has the Deisel Purge and we can get Italian Tuneups on eBay?
Is that right?

--R

Luther Gulseth wrote:

It is bad.  It lowers your fuel economy.  It causes build up of 
carbon on your injectors, prechambers, and in the piston chambers.  
This is bad and requires Diesel Purge (purchased from Rusty) and many 
"italian tuneups" to correct the problem.  Allowing the carbon build 
up to continue with out correcting the cause and cleaning it out can 
lead to the death of your engine.  It is bad.


Luther

-Original Message-
From: "Gabriel S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Oct 27, 2005 10:33 AM
To: Mercedes mailing list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] diesel idling story

Is leaving your diesel idling really all that bad? I suspect it 
isn't. I'll
tell you this much, my boat has a Straight 6 Volvo Diesel and I idle 
that
thing all day long when trolling for fish and still no ill effects. I 
don't
know what it is about my car, but even though she lights up on the 
first
crank I still find it harder to start than a gasser, who knows, maybe 
its
the effort required to turn the key on a Benz thats harder, all I can 
say is

that I tend to leave her running when possible.




Luther   KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (happily running diesel/WVO mix)
'82 300CD slate grey, black interior, 152,xxx mi

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Re: [MBZ] Bizarre-ness

[redghost]

The craigslist thing would step on my toes and be duplicative unless 
you were posting from outside seattle.  What would I do with my days if 
you took the old cars away from me?


As for fuel prices, we have horrid prices and I suspect that there 
would be a mass exodus to places with cheap fuel, rather than influx of 
midwestern folk coming to get our overpriced and over taxed fuel.


On Thursday, October 27, 2005, at 12:17 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


<>

Thank you. I suppose instead I could post diesel prices near me, 
starting a
mad dash from hundreds of miles away to save a nickel per gallon. 
Maybe a few

Ebay and Craigs list links just to top it off.

RLE/Seattle


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Seattle Bioburner

1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz

Re: [MBZ] Faerie Tales was Sad Death

[Rich Thomas]

Wait, you mean this ISN'T one of the new reality shows?  She isn't 
really president?  Just when I was really starting to feel good about 
things again you go and mess with my head...


Y'all can come bah heah in Texas anytime to commiserate.

--R

redghost wrote:

Sort of like "Commander in Chief" which hilary clintoon is deep in 
supporting with former white house staffers.  Poor sap woman president 
goes for the "soft" and "we can all work together" solutions.  Evil 
republicans and hardliners are out to destroy amerika.  Interesting to 
watch, but keep reminding myself, pure fiction and fairy tales.  Within 
hours any woman president would have to grow some gonads


On Thursday, October 27, 2005, at 03:24 AM, TimothyPilgrim wrote:

 


That's right. It IS fiction, and as long we the reader understands
that, all is good and well. I find his books riveting, but that
doesn't mean I believe them to the T.

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 10/26/05, redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
   

He is a good writer of FICTION.  If you are somebody on the inside, 
you

can drive trucks through the holes in his novels.  Still a fun read.
 


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[MBZ] '87 300 turbodiesel wagon on Craigslist Boston

[Lee Levitt]

Found one locally on Craigslist, 175K miles, $8K invested 
recently, new trannie, silver/black leather, blah blah.

No affiliation, I know nothing about the car..

http://boston.craigslist.com/car/106954129.html

Shoot, I should scoop this up and sell it on ebay :)

Lee
'93 300 2.5L td

Re: [MBZ] Faerie Tales was Sad Death

[redghost]

RICH

I was pointing out that not only was it just a made up TV thing, the 
dumb dame is too goody two shoes to even survive in D.C.


On Thursday, October 27, 2005, at 01:17 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:


Wait, you mean this ISN'T one of the new reality shows?  She isn't
really president?  Just when I was really starting to feel good about
things again you go and mess with my head...

Y'all can come bah heah in Texas anytime to commiserate.

--R

redghost wrote:


Sort of like "Commander in Chief" which hilary clintoon is deep in
supporting with former white house staffers.  Poor sap woman president
goes for the "soft" and "we can all work together" solutions.  Evil
republicans and hardliners are out to destroy amerika.  Interesting to
watch, but keep reminding myself, pure fiction and fairy tales.  
Within

hours any woman president would have to grow some gonads

On Thursday, October 27, 2005, at 03:24 AM, TimothyPilgrim wrote:




That's right. It IS fiction, and as long we the reader understands
that, all is good and well. I find his books riveting, but that
doesn't mean I believe them to the T.

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 10/26/05, redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



He is a good writer of FICTION.  If you are somebody on the inside,
you
can drive trucks through the holes in his novels.  Still a fun read.



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Re: [MBZ] Is this bad for your engine?

[B Dike]

It may not be quite as bad as it looks.  It will
certainly lengthen the time required to come up to
operating temp, which will increase engine wear; the
question is how much.  On the other hand, it may well
reduce, or eliminate, as he claims, overtemp episodes
by increasing the flow rate through the thermostat
apparatus when the bypass valve is closed.  If the
temperature stabilization is as good as stated, then
its usefulness would depend on how much longer it
takes to reach operating temp.  If it is only a extra
minute or two then it is worth a try. If it  takes
much longer than that, then I would be concerned about
wear issues. The delay effect may not be as bad as it
might seem because flow resistance laws dictate that,
even with the holes, most of the coolant will still
circulate through the bypass when cold instead of the
radiator.

Bruce

--- "Gabriel S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
http://dieselgiant.com/thermostatreplacementandmodif.htm
> 
> --
> Gabriel Soto
> Southern California
> 1987 300D 230K=-
>

Bruce
82 300CD 334kmi 'His'
85 300CD 236kmi 'Hers'
75 240D 194kmi 'Donner'
77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen'




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Re: [MBZ] Is this bad for your engine?

[Gabriel S.]

wow Bruce, I see you are a family of benz owners.

On 10/27/05, B Dike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> It may not be quite as bad as it looks. It will
> certainly lengthen the time required to come up to
> operating temp, which will increase engine wear; the
> question is how much. On the other hand, it may well
> reduce, or eliminate, as he claims, overtemp episodes
> by increasing the flow rate through the thermostat
> apparatus when the bypass valve is closed. If the
> temperature stabilization is as good as stated, then
> its usefulness would depend on how much longer it
> takes to reach operating temp. If it is only a extra
> minute or two then it is worth a try. If it takes
> much longer than that, then I would be concerned about
> wear issues. The delay effect may not be as bad as it
> might seem because flow resistance laws dictate that,
> even with the holes, most of the coolant will still
> circulate through the bypass when cold instead of the
> radiator.
>
> Bruce
>
> --- "Gabriel S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> http://dieselgiant.com/thermostatreplacementandmodif.htm
> >
> > --
> > Gabriel Soto
> > Southern California
> > 1987 300D 230K=-
> >
>
> Bruce
> 82 300CD 334kmi 'His'
> 85 300CD 236kmi 'Hers'
> 75 240D 194kmi 'Donner'
> 77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen'
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Faerie Tales was Sad Death

[Gabriel S.]

Female president=Nukes flying about once a month.

On 10/27/05, redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Sort of like "Commander in Chief" which hilary clintoon is deep in
> supporting with former white house staffers. Poor sap woman president
> goes for the "soft" and "we can all work together" solutions. Evil
> republicans and hardliners are out to destroy amerika. Interesting to
> watch, but keep reminding myself, pure fiction and fairy tales. Within
> hours any woman president would have to grow some gonads
>
> On Thursday, October 27, 2005, at 03:24 AM, TimothyPilgrim wrote:
>
> > That's right. It IS fiction, and as long we the reader understands
> > that, all is good and well. I find his books riveting, but that
> > doesn't mean I believe them to the T.
> >
> > Tim
> > 1982 300TD Moby
> >
> > On 10/26/05, redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> He is a good writer of FICTION. If you are somebody on the inside,
> >> you
> >> can drive trucks through the holes in his novels. Still a fun read.
> >
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>
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> 1995 E300D - Cleo
> 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
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Re: [MBZ] converting to synthetic oil?

[Gabriel S.]

Marshall,
 Could you explain how over filling with oil is bad for the enigne (dont get
me wrong, i believe it, i just don't see how it could be bad)?

 On 10/27/05, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I have heard and had personal experience when changing over to MOBIL1 in
> > an engine that was origionally run on dino that after a while it leaks.
> > There is something missing in the oil to swell the gaskets, or
> > something like that. Not that I don't swear by MOBIL 1, My engines
> > seem to last forever on the stuff and I love it. I wish I could get it
> > to stop leaking though. Anybody else hear of this?
>
> Mobil 1 HAS in it an additive that will stop modest leaks (that were
> caused by conventional oil swelling the original seals and wear reducing
> the material). Most owners that have small leaks and switch to M-1 find
> that after several changes, the leaks seal or are at least diminished.
> If you have holes that are plugged by sludge or combustion residue, the
> M-1 will dissolve them and the leak MAY commence, but only because the
> ALREADY damaged or improperly sealed engine has been cleaned.
>
> An engine that's not maintained or one that's abused (and overfilling
> with oil or frequently topping up the oil BEFORE it reaches the ADD mark
> IS abuse) will start to leak no matter what oil is in it. If it started
> leaking after you changed to M-1, who's to say it wouldn't have started
> leaking had you NOT changed - it wasn't just time to start leaking?
>
> WHERE is it leaking? The first step it to identify the precise location
> and cause of the leak. Once you know where and why the leak you repair it!
>
> Marshall
> --
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> Ass't Prof. (ret.)
> Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine
> Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST
> Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA
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Re: [MBZ] Is this bad for your engine?

[B Dike]

In addition to being superb daily drivers, MB diesels 
are an excellent car for teens...

--- "Gabriel S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> wow Bruce, I see you are a family of benz owners.
> 
> On 10/27/05, B Dike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > It may not be quite as bad as it looks. It will
> > certainly lengthen the time required to come up to
> > operating temp, which will increase engine wear;
> the
> > question is how much. On the other hand, it may
> well
> > reduce, or eliminate, as he claims, overtemp
> episodes
> > by increasing the flow rate through the thermostat
> > apparatus when the bypass valve is closed. If the
> > temperature stabilization is as good as stated,
> then
> > its usefulness would depend on how much longer it
> > takes to reach operating temp. If it is only a
> extra
> > minute or two then it is worth a try. If it takes
> > much longer than that, then I would be concerned
> about
> > wear issues. The delay effect may not be as bad as
> it
> > might seem because flow resistance laws dictate
> that,
> > even with the holes, most of the coolant will
> still
> > circulate through the bypass when cold instead of
> the
> > radiator.
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> > --- "Gabriel S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
>
http://dieselgiant.com/thermostatreplacementandmodif.htm
> > >
> > > --
> > > Gabriel Soto
> > > Southern California
> > > 1987 300D 230K=-
> > >
> >
> > Bruce
> > 82 300CD 334kmi 'His'
> > 85 300CD 236kmi 'Hers'
> > 75 240D 194kmi 'Donner'
> > 77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen'
> >
> >
> >
> >
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[MBZ] idling/starting

[wilton strickland]

All 4 of my MB diesels have strtd on 1st cycle.  If not, I thot smthng
wrong.

Wiltn

[MBZ] Start gear

[Gabriel S.]

Does the 87 300d start in second gear? I read somewere that 124 (not sure if
all) start in 2nd gear. If yes, how can i defeat this (besides flooring it
every time)?

--
Gabriel Soto
Southern California
1987 300D 230K=-

[MBZ] a couple more oil profit stories

[Ron Dwelle]

Here are a couple more price gouging stories:

http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/1027/p01s04-usec.html

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/business/3415984

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/25/ 
AR2005102501655.html


http://www.journalstar.com/articles/2005/10/26/business/ 
doc435ffaaf46270510425903.txt


Ron Dwelle

Re: [MBZ] converting to synthetic oil?

[Marshall Booth]

Gabriel S. wrote:

Marshall,
 Could you explain how over filling with oil is bad for the enigne (dont get
me wrong, i believe it, i just don't see how it could be bad)?


There are MANY reasons why overfilling is bad. The MAX mark is just that 
- NOT the optimal level.


1: When overfilled, additional oil is burned and ejected. This results 
in additional smoke and carbon accumulation in the engine (and oil costs 
increase) and excess oil is flung about. Even at only the MAX mark, 
engine oil consumption at highway speeds on MOST all of the Mercedes 
engines I've ever owned was double or triple what it is when the oil 
level is at the mid point or lower.


2. Additional oil can enter the combustion chamber unmetered and this 
CAN in extreme cases result in engine runaway and destruction (usually 
the engine must be overfilled by at least several qt for this to happen).


3. And my favorite argument ;-). Mercedes points out that optimal oil 
level is midway between the ADD and the MAX mark. If we make the 
assumption that oil consumption is linear (not true, but sufficiently 
true for this simplistic example) the sump is filled to the MAX mark and 
spends ~33% of the time there, 33% of the time at the midway point and 
33% of the time at the ADD mark, the oil level is only at the mid 
(optimal) point 1/3rd of the time. If on the other hand the oil is 
filled to 1/3rd above the mid point and allowed to drop to the ADD mark, 
the oil will be at the optimal level half the time rather than 1/3rd of 
the time. That's certainly a measurable improvement!


Just follow Mercedes recommendations that the oil level must NEVER 
exceed the MAX mark (I fill my cars to half way between ADD and MAX)., 
Never add oil until the oil level reaches the ADD mark.


Marshall
--
Marshall Booth Ph.D.
Ass't Prof. (ret.)
Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine
Department of Pharmacology  1300 BST
Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA
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Re: [MBZ] Start gear

[Kevin]

On Thu, Oct 27, 2005 at 02:16:39PM -0700, Gabriel S. wrote:
> Does the 87 300d start in second gear? I read somewere that 124 (not sure if
> all) start in 2nd gear. If yes, how can i defeat this (besides flooring it
> every time)?

Neither of mine do (87 300D and 87 300TD). Drive it locked in third and
see if you count two shifts or just one.

K

Re: [MBZ] Start gear

[Marshall Booth]

Gabriel S. wrote:

Does the 87 300d start in second gear? I read somewere that 124 (not sure if
all) start in 2nd gear. If yes, how can i defeat this (besides flooring it
every time)?


MOST US delivered 124s start in 2nd. MOST 124s are gasoline powered. 
None of the 124 diesels start in second! If yours starts in second, then 
the linkage is probably worn and needs to be adjusted.


Marshall
--
Marshall Booth Ph.D.
Ass't Prof. (ret.)
Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine
Department of Pharmacology  1300 BST
Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA
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Re: [MBZ] '87 300 turbodiesel wagon on Craigslist Boston

[TimothyPilgrim]

Looks nice. Check out that diamond-style vacuum job on the carpet. Tricky!

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 10/27/05, Lee Levitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Found one locally on Craigslist, 175K miles, $8K invested
> recently, new trannie, silver/black leather, blah blah.
>
> No affiliation, I know nothing about the car..
>
> http://boston.craigslist.com/car/106954129.html
>
> Shoot, I should scoop this up and sell it on ebay :)
>
> Lee
> '93 300 2.5L td
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