Re: [MBZ] Memorial Day CL in Seattle

2006-06-01 Thread Jim Cathey

Do trailer it over.   Selling a car from the "Hahbah" will be much
easier.  There is a rabid bioD mob on this side of the mountains that
will jump all over it.  Huge tank and all will have great appeal.


If I do bring it over there I'll probably have to pony up for the
WA license and inspection first.  I had not done this because there
was actually some interest in the car in non-WA venues and it would
then have been totally wasted money, but nobody quite bit on it.
I could handle the weird three-way transaction in person, but no way
should my agent be required to do so.  (And he'd be a fourth party.)

I suppose I'll have my choice of Gig Harbor, Roy, or Kent --- places
where we have relatives.  Or even your house in Seattle, Clay?  You
mentioned this before.  Any opinions on where my beastie would be
most likely to sell with the least amount of fuss?

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Nationwide tour

2006-06-01 Thread David Brodbeck

Jim Cathey wrote:

And don't forget the credit card and cell phone.  A lockbox with a
.357 in it wouldn't be amiss either, IMHO, to go along with your
other insurance policies.
  


I'm not saying that's a bad idea, but I'd be sure of the legality of it 
in every state you'll be going through before packing something like 
that on a cross-country trip.  Same goes for Tazers, pepper spray, etc.  
That's exactly the sort of thing that can turn a routine police stop 
into a trip-ending legal nightmare.




Re: [MBZ] Memorial Day CL in Seattle

2006-06-01 Thread David Brodbeck

Jim Cathey wrote:

I suppose I'll have my choice of Gig Harbor, Roy, or Kent --- places
where we have relatives.


I'd say Kent.  It's centrally located.  Gig Harbor is a real pain to get 
to from the Seattle area because of traffic backups on SR-16.




Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Email lists: Changing a lightbulb

2006-06-01 Thread OK Don

Wow - there are others out there like us!   TOO scary!!   A
Hallicrafter list no less

On 5/31/06, Luther Gulseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



so true



Forwarded From: Al Gulseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> How many listmembers does it take to change a lightbulb?
>
> One to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been
changed.
>
> Fourteen to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the
> light bulb could have been changed differently.
>
> Seven to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs.
>
> Seven more to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing
light
> bulbs.
>
> Five to flame the spell checkers.
>
> Three to correct spelling/grammar flames.
>
> Six to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb" ...
>
> Another six to condemn those six as stupid.
>
> Fifteen to claim experience in the lighting industry and give the correct
> spelling.
>
> Nineteen to post that this group is not about light bulbs and to please
take
> this discussion to a lightbulb (or light bulb) forum.
>
> Eleven to defend the posting to the group saying that we all use light
bulbs
> and therefore the posts are relevant to this group.
>
> Thirty six to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior,
where
> to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this
> technique and what brands are faulty.
>
> Seven to post URLs where one can see examples of different light bulbs.
>
> Four to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly and then post the
corrected
> URL.
>
> Three to post about links they found from the URLs that are relevant to
this
> group which makes light bulbs relevant to this group.
>
> Thirteen to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including
all
> headers and signatures, and add "Me too"
>
> Five to post to the group that they will no longer post because they cannot
> handle the light bulb controversy.
>
> Four to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?"
>
> Thirteen to say "do a Google search on light bulbs before posting questions
> about light bulbs."
>
> Three to tell a funny story about their cat and a light bulb.
>
> AND
>
> One group lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from now with
> something unrelated they found at snopes.com and start it all
> over again!
>
> (From the Hallicrafters Collectors' listserver)
>



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Re: [MBZ] Nationwide tour

2006-06-01 Thread George Gregory
On 5/31/06 5:23 PM, "archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Since nearly everyones MB seems to be running perfectly with no problems
> that need our expert advice, it might be interesting to make a list of parts
> and supplies that an MB owner should have in his trunk if he were going to
> make a nationwide tour and wanted to do his own repairs on the road.

Ask George Murphy




Re: [MBZ] GP Install - 91 300D 2.5

2006-06-01 Thread ned kleinhenz

Larry:
I agree with everything the others posted about what to have ready.
I've done it with as little as a new manifold gasket.  But I don't recommend
going that economically.

But I might add that a torque wrence is useful for getting the mainfold back
on tight enough without
stripping the aluminum head.  My 606 engine uses torx (sp?) type bolts to
fasten the manifold - so be ready in case that is what your engine has.  I
bought what seems to be a good enough 1/4" torque wrench from Harbor Freight
for ~$10 IIRC.

Ned Kleinhenz


Re: [MBZ] Nationwide tour

2006-06-01 Thread L. Mark Finch
Absolutely do that! I'm on what's called the Warm Showers List for  
touring bicyclists, and it's been a great way to meet people and  
vicariously participate in their journeys. If you're in our neck of  
the woods, by all means consider us as a stopover.


--mf

On May 31, 2006, at 7:24 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote:

Before you leave, take a printout of all of us clowns on Chuck's  
frapper
thing. I'm sure none of us would be opposed to getting a ring when  
you pass
through if you need a place to recharge/cleanup/car upkeep/ 
homecooked meal

etc.


_
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8635 Moore Road
Indianapolis IN 46278-1126
317.408.5605

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Email lists: Changing a lightbulb

2006-06-01 Thread Mike Canfield

Cool.I need to get me sum a dem

Mike
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No dude, the magnets go on the electrical lines to make the light bulbs 
burn

more effeciently.

Steve MacSween <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:


on 5/31/06 1:14 PM, Mike Canfield at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Then install a hair dryer to blow more air into the engine. You will

surely
> double your horsepower and get another 23MPG on used air filter oil 
> mixed

> with ethanol on your next trip to the dollar store for new lightbulbs.

You forgot the magnets strapped to the fuel lines, dude.

Magnets. YEAH.

Mac





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[MBZ] CA-spec '85 300D transmission?

2006-06-01 Thread tom savage
A friend's brother has an '85 300D from California with 240k miles and 
an apparently toasted transmission.  I know 1985 was an odd year for the 
300D/SD and even wierder for those models sold in the California 
Republic.  It is my understanding that Federal-spec '85s used the good 
old 722.3 transmission but with a different torque convertor and other 
bits, while the CA models used a 722.4 trans.  Am I right so far?


I've also heard that an earlier transmission won't work with an '85 
engine, but that the '85 transmission will work with an earlier engine. 
 So there are a few interchangability issues at the end of 123 
production.  Now enter the CA factor - must the tranny in a CA '85 be 
replaced with same, or will a standard '85 unit work?  Or maybe even an 
earlier unit?


The car seems to be in good shape but while he likes it, the owner has 
several other cars and just isn't sufficiently devoted to it to invest 
several grand in a new transmission.  He would consider a known good 
used transmission, if he can find one that will work.  "Otherwise he'll 
probably just scrap it."  And I won't let that happen, not to those 
pristine rockers and wheel arches.


Thanks,
Tom
'82 300D - Rust never sleeps



Re: [MBZ] Nationwide Tour

2006-06-01 Thread THLITHK
 
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Date: Wed, 31 May  2006 19:21:39 -0400 (EDT)
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On Wed, 31 May 2006, archer wrote:
>  and supplies that an MB owner should have in his trunk if he were going to 
 
> make a nationwide tour and wanted to do his own repairs on the  road.  A 
> useful addition to the list might be the locations and  telephone numbers 
of 
> mechanics and of junkyards that have MBs;  Kalebs, for example.

When I drove my 84 300SD back and forth  200mi/day,
I kept a .50 cal ammo can with: (in addition to the MB tool  pouch)
-spare fuel filter
-2x spare fuel prefilters
-glow plug  fuse
-other fuses
-spare (silver) relay
-spare glow plug relay  (winter)
-Spare stop/turn/backup/side marker lamp bulbs (1 or 2 of each  bulb type)
-Spare voltage regulator
-replacement wiper inserts
-4 pr  nitrile gloves
-20-25 zip-ties, 11" long, minimum 30lb capacity
-purple  bottle castrol hand cleaner (waterless,towel-less)
-"click" knife with new  blade
-6" crescent wrench
-9" regular curved-jaw vise grips
-10"  crescent wrench
-6" long-nose vise-grips
-small (1/4" drive) metric  socket set- deep sockets 7mm-12 or 13mm, 3" 
-extension, 6" extension,  ratchet, spinner handle
-4 or 6 way screwdriver
-2aa cell mini  maglite
-spare batteries as needed
-flares (4x)
-compact safety  vest
-cheap multimeter (a la harbor freight $5 deals)

You might want  a pair of double open end wrenches 17mm x 19mm, a 13mm 
combination wrench  or two, and  a 3/8" ratchet with 13,15,17,19mm sockets 
and an  extension or two or three, as well as a wonderbar or other small 
pry  bar

Outside of the box,
- Spare air filter
- 3-6 qts M-1 15W50  oil.
- Small bottle of anti-gel
- Wood jack "pad" made of three layers  of 3 pcs each 1x6 pressure treated 
boards 18" long fastened together with  spiral or ring nails
- rubber truck mudflap (to lay/kneel on etc)
- Coat  hangar(wire)
- gallon of MB antifreeze
- 2 gallons washer fluid
-  safety triangle
- Jumper cables


- 3 D-Cell "people-beater"  mag-lite (kept laying between the driver seat 
and the door, within easy  reach)

-AAA Plus membership card (I have been towed from alexandria to  white 
marsh (jeep, not benz) with a failed alternator

You might  also want part of a scott "box of rags" (from depot), I kept 
about 20 or  so of them rolled up in a bag

I've mainly needed the bulbs, fuses  (once!), the GP relay, fuel filters, 
anti-gel, oil, and wiper inserts (and  the requisite tools). 

The long nose vise-grips are a good hose-pinch  off tool.  The zip ties are 
multi-use, ie holding up mufflers with  busted donuts, etc

I think that would probably cover most anything up  to and including an 
alternator... 

Of course I've caught grief  about how much "junk" wa in my trunk from  
swmbo.

-j.





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Hello,
 
A few odds and ends.
1.) Funnel for oil.
2.) Paper towels and cloth rags. 
3.) Small medical kit. Frequently available at the outdoor places like REI,  
Cabelas, Whole Earth Provision Company, etc. Available also online. Of course  
the modern equivalent of a medical kit is a cellphone. But I prefer to have 
the  kit anyway. You can take it with you when you go hiking.
4.) Trash bags, big strong ones. Make great "emergency" store boxes.  Form 
fitting too. 
5.) Duct tape. 
 
Thomas Koschmieder
Not a Benz owner, yet.  


Re: [MBZ] Continued off topic

2006-06-01 Thread Jeff Zedic
I often quote a story to people of when my brother was a buyer for a 
large national Canadian retailer. I won't say CT's name but Canadians on 
the list may know who CT is.


He came back form mainland China all excited about how they had 
factories that made toasters and they could produce x number an 
hourcan't remember exactly but let's say 200 an hour. He was excited 
because they could produce this many and the suckers would work for 6 
cents an hour!


Somehow, they could survive on that. I asked him how much harm would it 
do to give them 12 cents an hour and was met with a blank 
stare..surely another 6 cents an hour spread over 200 toasters is no 
big deal but the lowest common denominator rules!


I guess the world doesn't need people like me with my 1956 Sunbeam T20 
that still works perfectly. When was the last time anyone tried to have 
a toaster repaired? Or tried it themselves?


Thank you for the disposable society...they should have told 
us when this started that it included people too.



Jeff Zedic
Toronto
1956 T20
1987 300TD
Still uses tube amps and listens to vinyl





Re: [MBZ] Continued off topic

2006-06-01 Thread Jim Cathey

that still works perfectly. When was the last time anyone tried to have
a toaster repaired? Or tried it themselves?


Me, a few years ago.  I restored (to daily-driver status) an old
Toastmaster clockwork toaster, because of the model's sentimental
value in my mother's family.  She loved the retro (original!) look
and it fit right in to their Airstream trailer decor.

Was a PITA, but the thing actually was pretty easy to service.
The things will run for years.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] CA-spec '85 300D transmission?

2006-06-01 Thread Marshall Booth

tom savage wrote:
A friend's brother has an '85 300D from California with 240k miles and 
an apparently toasted transmission.  I know 1985 was an odd year for the 
300D/SD and even wierder for those models sold in the California 
Republic.  It is my understanding that Federal-spec '85s used the good 
old 722.3 transmission but with a different torque convertor and other 
bits, while the CA models used a 722.4 trans.  Am I right so far?


I've also heard that an earlier transmission won't work with an '85 
engine, but that the '85 transmission will work with an earlier engine. 
  So there are a few interchangability issues at the end of 123 
production.  Now enter the CA factor - must the tranny in a CA '85 be 
replaced with same, or will a standard '85 unit work?  Or maybe even an 
earlier unit?


The earlier 722.3 transmissions will work on '85 cars, but the '85 722.3 
transmission won't fit onto an earlier car/engine. I'm NOT sure about 
the 722.416 transmissions from '85 California certified 300D/TD/CD/SDs, 
but they do have a high stall speed torque converters and the earlier 
transmissions with a torque converter with much lower stall speed would 
make the car feel REALLY sluggish and slow at low speeds.


There are not a lot of '85 722.416 transmissions floating around.

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Continued off topic

2006-06-01 Thread Jeff Zedic
Ok, but that was YOU, Jim! An exception to the rule by nature and more 
power to you!


I also miss my 50's general electric kettle.you could fill it with 
20 litres or so of water and plug it in and watch the streetlights dim 
at night! Boy that thing would boil water!


I wonder how nostalgic I'd be if I wasn't born in 64..?

Jeff Zedic
Toronto




Re: [MBZ] Continued off topic

2006-06-01 Thread Marshall Booth

Jeff Zedic wrote:

I guess the world doesn't need people like me with my 1956 Sunbeam T20 
that still works perfectly. 


But your '56 Sunbeam spews out 50X the pollution that a modern car with 
the same power would...


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Re: [MBZ] Nationwide tour

2006-06-01 Thread Jim Cathey

I'm not saying that's a bad idea, but I'd be sure of the legality of it
in every state you'll be going through before packing something like
that on a cross-country trip.  Same goes for Tazers, pepper spray, etc.
That's exactly the sort of thing that can turn a routine police stop
into a trip-ending legal nightmare.


If it's unloaded and locked into a non-reachable box it's legal in
all states.  Federal interstate transport law.  Not to say you wouldn't
get into a hassle anyway, but the chances are slim.  It's really
for those nighttime sleep-overs, and if you really need it the
potential cop-hassle is the _least_ of your problems.  Store the
ammo separately, btw.

It's odd, but in most places it is illegal to some degree or another
to actually have the ability to defend yourself, yet that is what
you are required to do!

OT, but I believe that everybody should be able to pack heat at
all times.  Just be prepared to defend your actions in court, and
be prepared to pay a heavy price if you're a fool!  Does anybody
think that we'd really have more crime under such a system?  It'd
be a different mix of crimes to be sure, but I think that there
really would be less of it.  I can think of some 3000-odd people
that wouldn't be dead right now...

Now that I've thrown that grenade...

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Continued off topic/disposable society

2006-06-01 Thread Mike Canfield
Disposable it is.I hate it.  That's why I drive a 68 Dodge M37 3/4 ton 
cargo truck every day.  I can take apart and fix every single component in 
my driveway.  The fact that it burns free "junk yard gas" from scrapping 
cars helps too.  68 octane and up and she's happy.Will darned near burn 
varnish.


Mike
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Continued off topic



I often quote a story to people of when my brother was a buyer for a
large national Canadian retailer. I won't say CT's name but Canadians on
the list may know who CT is.

He came back form mainland China all excited about how they had
factories that made toasters and they could produce x number an
hourcan't remember exactly but let's say 200 an hour. He was excited
because they could produce this many and the suckers would work for 6
cents an hour!

Somehow, they could survive on that. I asked him how much harm would it
do to give them 12 cents an hour and was met with a blank
stare..surely another 6 cents an hour spread over 200 toasters is no
big deal but the lowest common denominator rules!

I guess the world doesn't need people like me with my 1956 Sunbeam T20
that still works perfectly. When was the last time anyone tried to have
a toaster repaired? Or tried it themselves?

Thank you for the disposable society...they should have told
us when this started that it included people too.


Jeff Zedic
Toronto
1956 T20
1987 300TD
Still uses tube amps and listens to vinyl



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Re: [MBZ] Continued off topic

2006-06-01 Thread Jeff Zedic


Sorry Marshall but it's a toaster I was down the street today buying 
some new vinyl and a guy drove up in a 1975 Pontiac Laurentian..it 
polluted so badly that I was gagging on the fumes while he was sitting 
in rush hour traffic..it was THAT noticeable!


Jeff Zedic
Toaster king




Re: [MBZ] Continued off topic

2006-06-01 Thread Marshall Booth

Jeff Zedic wrote:
Sorry Marshall but it's a toaster 


That's the trouble, modern toasters pollute just as much as they did 50 
year ago...time for toaster control


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Quaint my ride

2006-06-01 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Well that and have a dig at German cars, he could have grabbed a English car 
but it would probably have broken down during filming.


Hendrik
who has never owned an English car and is not about to either

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On May 31, 2006, at 1:46 PM, Zeitgeist wrote:


I lost all respect for the gasbag when he trashed that Porsche 911
for no
apparent reason.


He did it for a reason. Ratings=$$$.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

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Re: [MBZ] Quaint my ride

2006-06-01 Thread OK Don

Oh, it might have run, but the brakes lights would have worked (only
electrical part of the whole car that worked though -- ).
OK Don, who had an English car (MGA), but there wasn't much Lucas left
on it when I sold it. It did have wood floors - just like the front of
that 140!

On 5/31/06, Hendrik Riessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Well that and have a dig at German cars, he could have grabbed a English car
but it would probably have broken down during filming.

Hendrik
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Re: [MBZ] Quaint my ride

2006-06-01 Thread Jeff Zedic

Hendrik Riessen wrote:
Well that and have a dig at German cars, he could have grabbed a English car 
but it would probably have broken down during filming.





Hendrik,

That reminds me of why the Brits never made their own television sets



They couldn't figure out how to make them drip oil.

BTW, where in Oz are you?


Jeff Zedic
Toronto





Re: [MBZ] Continued off topic

2006-06-01 Thread andrew strasfogel

I took my well-maintained 1970 280SE 3.5 coupe that I drive less than
weekly on average through DC motor vehicles inspection last Friday.
Despite the age of the car, they ran it through the tailpipe emissions
check inadvertently.  The vehicle actually passed with the following
test results:  HC 204 ppm (limit 1250); CO 3.30 % (limit 9.00), and
CO2 11.6% (limit not specified).Are these numbers good, great or
so-so?

On 5/31/06, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Jeff Zedic wrote:
> Sorry Marshall but it's a toaster

That's the trouble, modern toasters pollute just as much as they did 50
year ago...time for toaster control

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Continued off topic

2006-06-01 Thread Jeff Zedic

Well it passes with flying colours so I'd say they're good!

Jeff Zedic
Toronto
Groovin with Soul Station on Vinyl!




[MBZ] Welcome [was: Re: Nationwide Tour]

2006-06-01 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Wed, 31 May 2006 21:15:42 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hello,
>  
> A few odds and ends.
> 1.) Funnel for oil.
> 2.) Paper towels and cloth rags. 
> 3.) Small medical kit. Frequently available at the outdoor places like
> REI,   Cabelas, Whole Earth Provision Company, etc. Available also
> online. Of course   the modern equivalent of a medical kit is a
> cellphone. But I prefer to have  the  kit anyway. You can take it with
> you when you go hiking.
> 4.) Trash bags, big strong ones. Make great "emergency" store boxes. 
> Form  fitting too.
> 5.) Duct tape. 
>  
> Thomas Koschmieder
> Not a Benz owner, yet.


Welcome, Thomas! Glad to have you on the list, after all my prodding!

(Thomas and I worked for the same professor at UT Austin, he as a postdoc
and me as a graduate student, so we go back a ways. He even showed up at
my house in Austin to help me install the OM617 in my ex-240D.)



Craig 



Re: [MBZ] Nationwide tour

2006-06-01 Thread David Brodbeck

Jim Cathey wrote:

OT, but I believe that everybody should be able to pack heat at
all times.  Just be prepared to defend your actions in court, and
be prepared to pay a heavy price if you're a fool!  Does anybody
think that we'd really have more crime under such a system?


Dunno.  I suppose we might find out, now that Florida allows people to 
use deadly force any time they feel threatened.  I'm not sure how well 
that'll work out.  Judging from the way people act on the roads, 
sometimes just changing lanes seems to be perceived as a personal threat.




Re: [MBZ] Continued off topic

2006-06-01 Thread David Brodbeck

andrew strasfogel wrote:

I took my well-maintained 1970 280SE 3.5 coupe that I drive less than
weekly on average through DC motor vehicles inspection last Friday.
Despite the age of the car, they ran it through the tailpipe emissions
check inadvertently.  The vehicle actually passed with the following
test results:  HC 204 ppm (limit 1250); CO 3.30 % (limit 9.00), and
CO2 11.6% (limit not specified).Are these numbers good, great or
so-so?
  


Well, for comparison to a "modern" car, here are some fresh results from 
my '95 Ford Crown Vic's WA emissions test:

Idle: HC 12 ppm, CO 0%, CO+CO2 14.7%
25 mph: HC 18 ppm, CO 0.06%, CO+CO 15.36 %.
They messed up and only tested one tailpipe, though, so I'm not sure how 
accurate those numbers are.


My '89 VW Cabriolet:
Idle: HC 87 ppm, CO 0.27%, CO+CO2 12.97%
25 mph: HC 84 ppm, CO 0.31%, CO+CO2 15.61%
The Cabriolet had a miss at idle at the time and desperately needed a 
tuneup, which probably accounts for some of the high HC number.  (Here 
it pays to test *before* you do any work, because you can get a waiver 
if you spend more than a certain amount trying to fix a car that fails.)


I believe the CO+CO2 number is just to make sure the exhaust isn't being 
diluted by leaks; in the WA test, it has to be at least 6%.





Re: [MBZ] Continued off topic

2006-06-01 Thread David Brodbeck

Jeff Zedic wrote:
I guess the world doesn't need people like me with my 1956 Sunbeam T20 
that still works perfectly. When was the last time anyone tried to have 
a toaster repaired? Or tried it themselves?
  


My dad used to fix our toasters all the time. They usually ended up 
working, but with some unusual quirk, when he was done.  I remember one 
that had to be released manually after he fixed it, or the bread would 
eventually catch fire; and another that, after he was done fixing it, 
would not just pop up the toast, but actually eject it about a foot into 
the air.  We used to try to catch it.





Re: [MBZ] Quaint my ride

2006-06-01 Thread Hendrik Riessen

Scary thought, a Lucas television set. Doubles as a smoke machine:)
I live in Adelaide.

Hendrik
who does not own any English electrical appliances either

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Hendrik Riessen wrote:
Well that and have a dig at German cars, he could have grabbed a English 
car

but it would probably have broken down during filming.




Hendrik,

That reminds me of why the Brits never made their own television sets



They couldn't figure out how to make them drip oil.

BTW, where in Oz are you?


Jeff Zedic
Toronto



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Re: [MBZ] Continued off topic

2006-06-01 Thread l02turner

Hi Robert,
You wrote:<< actually GROWING food or RAISING the
chickens and those folks work HARD for >>>

Couldn't agree more.  My Uncle (now my cousin) has a fam in SC - that must 
be one of the hardest jobs around.  Long hours with low pay.  He works from 
4 or 5am until 9 or 10pm many days.  And all that actually GROWING food or 
RAISING the
chickens and those folks work HARD for  expensive equipment (which is 
necessary to compete) always needs maintanence.


The small farms are disappearing in this country - as little as 100 years 
ago 70%-80% of the population lived in rural (i.e., farms) and now it's 
reversed.  Only the big corporations with huge equipment budgets and low 
wages can survive.  This country produces something like 60% of the *worlds* 
food !  It's the more productive system ever seen but the days of the small 
farm (less than 500 acres or so) is long gone.


As far as the illegal aliens coming here for work - that's a fact of life - 
also, there's drug dealers and gangs coming across the border terrorizing 
the US citizens living in areas where the bad guys like to go.  Recently, 
the Mexican army was seen on the US side of the border protecting drug 
gangs!  It's time to stop the traffic at the border - then deal with those 
already here.  But 1st, we need to secure our borders.


Anyway - have a nice weekend - it'll be here before you know it ;-)

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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The food costs are definitely subsidized by the cheap illegal labour. It
used to be ,here in Arkansas, farm families would survive on the extra
income that they could make working in the chicken plants ( since they
can't make enough to live on actually GROWING food or RAISING the
chickens and those folks work HARD for what little they get ) then a few
years back, Tyson started advertising in Mexico that they had jobs for
people coming this way ( for substantially less then he was paying the
locals ) and next thing you know Springdale looks like downtown
Tiajauna  and the farm families have nowhere to turn for income (
especially since the few manufacturing options are steadily moving to
China )

Then to top it off, a bunch of years back Tyson started a deal to
supposedly help family farms put up more chicken houses to boost
production since it's hard to get financing for small farms ( I almost
signed on the line for this one...good thing my BS detector was tuned in
), so he'd finance the chicken houses and get the farmer to put up his
house land against it as his part. Well not too far down the line after
a clean out they would magically not get any new chicks for longer and
longer periods of time until they would default, loose their house , and
magically a few families of mexicans would be moved in to work the
operation for wages ( small wages )

There are already plenty of people here to do everything, just not for
nothing.
as far as food prices, the cost of organic foods are basically what food
should really cost if everyone involved were making a living wage.

-Robert


redghost wrote:

Maybe all this cheap stuff is not really in our best interest.  it is
nice to be able to accumulate all sorts of garbage nobody really needs,
but when you have something you really want, do you go out and get the
least expensive version, or do you spend what it takes to get the right
item?

I am sure that Gary does not quibble about his ammo, since the cheap
stuff will mess up his guns.  Or Rusty is going for least cost care for
his father.  And who among us is looking for the cheap chinese parts
for our benz.  These are all health and safety issues.  Might be that
having all this cheap illegal labor is the same health and safety
discussion.

The illegals are not above breaking the law to succeed.  Dealing drugs,
smuggling lord knows what, taking the place of native born or real
citizens in the schools and hospitals.  Stealing identities and social
security numbers is not in the interest of most real Americans.

Could be that all the cheap fast food really is not good for us.  The
plastic tomatoes and lettuce in that burger are really tasty, NOT!  And
if we paid the real cost to procure the foods we ate, I think we would
be more discerning in what we tossed down our gullets.

If we see that importing labor is costing our local economy more than
it provides, we may see the real cost to the community.  Walmart comes
in and sells us chinese junk, undercutting the local merchants and
those Main Street businesses fail, taking the other merchants, and in
the end the town.

On M

[MBZ] Nationwide tour

2006-06-01 Thread archer
Many thanks to everyone for their suggestions, and special thanks to those 
who have invited me to stop by.
Johnny B., I hope you are fortunate enough to have many, many good years 
with your wife as I was.  We celebrated our fiftieth wedding anniversary in 
June of last year.

Gerry Archer
'83 300D and 240D
--


From:  Thomas Koschmieder

A few odds and ends.
1.) Funnel for oil.
2.) Paper towels and cloth rags.
3.) Small medical kit. Frequently available at the outdoor places like
REI,   Cabelas, Whole Earth Provision Company, etc. Available also
online. Of course   the modern equivalent of a medical kit is a
cellphone. But I prefer to have  the  kit anyway. You can take it with
you when you go hiking.
4.) Trash bags, big strong ones. Make great "emergency" store boxes.
Form  fitting too.
5.) Duct tape.
Thomas Koschmieder
Not a Benz owner, yet.


From: Craig McCluskey:
Welcome, Thomas! Glad to have you on the list, after all my prodding!
(Thomas and I worked for the same professor at UT Austin, he as a postdoc
and me as a graduate student, so we go back a ways. He even showed up at
my house in Austin to help me install the OM617 in my ex-240D.)




From: "George Gregory" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Ask George Murphy



From: "Jim Cathey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I'd suggest a complete PM before the trip, replacing any and all
wear items, especially rubber, before you go.  Full fluid transplants.
New fuses, etc.  Then all you should bring is a good basic set of tools,
duct tape, baling wire, fuses and fuel filters.  Maybe tubes of Shoe Goo
and JB Weld.  Everything else is either attainable on the road,
unnecessary (as in not vital), or too damned bulky to worry about
dragging
along to begin with.  (Snapped-off radiator neck?  Won't be carrying a
spare for that!)  You only need to be able to somehow limp to the next
big town, in space and time, so you don't need everything you might to
retain full functionality.
And don't forget the credit card and cell phone.  A lockbox with a
.357 in it wouldn't be amiss either, IMHO, to go along with your
other insurance policies.



From: "David Brodbeck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I'm not saying that's a bad idea (the .357 magnum), but I'd be sure of the 
legality of it in every state you'll be going through before packing 
something like that on a cross-country trip.  Same goes for Tazers, pepper 
spray, etc. That's exactly the sort of thing that can turn a routine 
police stop into a trip-ending legal nightmare.



Before you leave, take a printout of all of us clowns on Chuck's frapper
thing. I'm sure none of us would be opposed to getting a ring when you pass
through if you need a place to recharge/cleanup/car upkeep/homecooked meal
etc.
Bob Rentfro
Outside Phoenix


From: "L. Mark Finch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Absolutely do that! I'm on what's called the Warm Showers List for
touring bicyclists, and it's been a great way to meet people and
vicariously participate in their journeys. If you're in our neck of
the woods, by all means consider us as a stopover.



From: "John W. Reames III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

When I drove my 84 300SD back and forth 200mi/day,
I kept a .50 cal ammo can with: (in addition to the MB tool pouch)
-spare fuel filter
-2x spare fuel prefilters
-glow plug fuse
-other fuses
-spare (silver) relay
-spare glow plug relay (winter)
-Spare stop/turn/backup/side marker lamp bulbs (1 or 2 of each bulb type)
-Spare voltage regulator
-replacement wiper inserts
-4 pr nitrile gloves
-20-25 zip-ties, 11" long, minimum 30lb capacity
-purple bottle castrol hand cleaner (waterless,towel-less)
-"click" knife with new blade
-6" crescent wrench
-9" regular curved-jaw vise grips
-10" crescent wrench
-6" long-nose vise-grips
-small (1/4" drive) metric socket set- deep sockets 7mm-12 or 13mm, 3"
-extension, 6" extension, ratchet, spinner handle
-4 or 6 way screwdriver
-2aa cell mini maglite
-spare batteries as needed
-flares (4x)
-compact safety vest
-cheap multimeter (a la harbor freight $5 deals)

You might want a pair of double open end wrenches 17mm x 19mm, a 13mm
combination wrench or two, and  a 3/8" ratchet with 13,15,17,19mm sockets
and an extension or two or three, as well as a wonderbar or other small
pry bar

Outside of the box,
- Spare air filter
- 3-6 qts M-1 15W50 oil.
- Small bottle of anti-gel
- Wood jack "pad" made of three layers of 3 pcs each 1x6 pressure treated
boards 18" long fastened together with spiral or ring nails
- rubber truck mudflap (to lay/kneel on etc)
- Coat hangar(wire)
- gallon of MB antifreeze
- 2 gallons washer fluid
- safety triangle
- Jumper cables


- 3 D-Cell "people-beater" mag-lite (kept laying between the driver seat
and the door, within easy reach)

-AAA Plus membership card (I have been towed from alexandria to white
marsh (jeep, not benz) with a failed alternator

You might also want part of a scott "box of rags" (from depot), I kept
about 20 or so of them rolled up in a bag

I've mainly needed 

Re: [MBZ] Continued off topic

2006-06-01 Thread BillR
You also need to factor in the pollution of making any replacement vehicle
and all it's parts.  An engineer friend figured out once how far/long he
would have to drive a new truck his friends were trying to talk him into
[because it got better mileage] to replace his old one that he used to drive
less than 8 miles a day commuting.  The energy cost to make a new truck
divided into the difference in mileage came to some significant number of
years. Not sure how that formula would work on pollution but probably not
too different.
Gotta watch those hidden costs.
BillR
Jacksonville FL
1981 300SD  EM   276k miles, and getting a welding job today to firm up the
driver's door check.   

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Jeff Zedic wrote:

> I guess the world doesn't need people like me with my 1956 Sunbeam T20 
> that still works perfectly.

But your '56 Sunbeam spews out 50X the pollution that a modern car with the
same power would...

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Nationwide tour

2006-06-01 Thread Potter, Tom E
My condolences Gerry. My wife passed away in December also. I am also
"figuring out what to do with the rest of my life." I just turned 65, so
I have a few years yet. At this point my kids, grandkids, AND great
grandkids keep me very busy, so I don't have a lot of time to worry
about it.

Tom Potter

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On May 31, 2006, at 6:23 PM, archer wrote:

> Note:  I'm a widower as of last December and this trip will be sort  
> of a
> "getaway" trip to figure out what I'm going to do with the rest of  
> my life.
>
> Gerry Archer--Age 77


Good luck Gerry. I wish you many more years of happiness and
good  
health. I can't help but feel some sadness for you losing your wife.  
I often ponder what life would be like without my beloved Cathy. For  
now I cherish every moment we are together.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

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Re: [MBZ] Continued off topic

2006-06-01 Thread Jim Cathey

The energy cost to make a new truck
divided into the difference in mileage came to some significant number 
of
years. Not sure how that formula would work on pollution but probably 
not

too different.


A decent first approximation is to assume energy costs are fungible
and just 'buy' fuel with the net expense of the new vehicle.  I believe
the lasting effects of any pollution emitted by the older vehicle will
be much less than that emitted by the new vehicle production process.

Which is not to say that vehicles should never be replaced, but IMHO
only when they no longer suit your needs.  And so long as I only surf
the trailing edge I'm not particularly contributing to the industrial
waste problem.  (If anything, I'm delaying some of it!)


Gotta watch those hidden costs.


Absolutely!

1981 300SD  EM   276k miles, and getting a welding job today to firm 
up the

driver's door check.


Gave the Frankenheap one of those, and it really helped a lot!

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Nationwide tour

2006-06-01 Thread archer
My condolences to you, Tom.  I was busy with my grandkids, but all but one 
has graduated from high school and gone off to college.  The arrival of 
great-grandkids is something I hadn't considered.  Thanks.

Gerry

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My condolences Gerry. My wife passed away in December also. I am also
"figuring out what to do with the rest of my life." I just turned 65, so
I have a few years yet. At this point my kids, grandkids, AND great
grandkids keep me very busy, so I don't have a lot of time to worry
about it.

Tom Potter



On May 31, 2006, at 6:23 PM, archer wrote:
Note:  I'm a widower as of last December and this trip will be sort of a 
"getaway" trip to figure out what I'm going to do with the rest of  my 
life.

Gerry Archer--Age 77





Re: [MBZ] CL E500 in Columbus

2006-06-01 Thread andrew strasfogel

This says a lot about high repair costs.  What was the YOUNGEST of these
beauties in the lot?

On 5/31/06, redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Driving home from the Pick and Pull the other day, I was just amazed at
the number of new benz in third tier used car lots.  One fellow seems
to have hit the lottery, with seven or eight C and E class right up
front.  Even the last option lots have newer mercedes ready to sell.
Did that many benz come off lease and fail to be able to qualify for
StarMark?

On Tuesday, May 30, 2006, at 05:58 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

> That's the annual maintenance cost when out of warranty.
>
> My friend's "new" dealer-maintained 1999 55K miles black/charcoal E320
> already has two lights out in his first week of his ownership.
> Fortunately,
> it has a 30 day warranty from EuroMotorcars.  Has anyone else heard
> horror
> stories about this model?  I've been told that, no matter how well
> maintained, they develop costly mechanical and electrical glitches.  I
> am
> not including the sunroof, which tilts, slides, exposes itself, and
> does
> other tricks until it breaks ($2,500).  I drove it around Sunday and
> thought
> sure, this is a very nice car with lots of bells and whistles compared
> to my
> 300TD, but I don't think it is worth the costly repairs that will
> surely
> follow...
>
> 1983 300TD and 1985 300CD (both "KISS" cars)
>
> On 5/29/06, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> But he did say, "Excellent condition E500 with approximately
>> $49,000."  Is
>> that what is required to keep it on the road, in maintenance costs?
>>
>> On 5/29/06, Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> course, he doesn't list the year, mileage, or the fact that it's
>>> going
>> to
>>> suck.
>>>
>>> On 5/29/06, Rick Knoble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 Not cheap.
 http://columbus.craigslist.org/car/165837940.html

 No affiliation, ect.
 Rick Knoble
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 '87 190 DT
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[MBZ] OT: List wisdom re: Sub tranny flush

2006-06-01 Thread Rich Thomas
Took my 2000 Suburban 102k miles in the other day for a recall fix (fuel 
sender wires or something), they did a general inspection (to get me to 
OK them having at it $$$, no doubt).  One of the points was that it 
needed a tranny flush (burned fluid).  Reasonable enough I suppose, 
though I did change the tranny fluid a year and half ago or so.  I know 
that does not get the TC fluid out, which continues to be old stuff.  
There was a bit of discussion on this flush technique a few weeks ago, 
sounds like an OK procedure.  I am wondering though, how the tranny is 
set up -- does TC fluid actually mix with the pan fluid in some fashion 
while operating?  Is draining/refilling a time or two a close enough 
approach to cleaning out the TC?  Tranny fluid is cheap enough compared 
to the flush cost ($50), seems like it might do pretty close if just 
cleaning the fluid is the main benefit.


Thoughts?

--R




Re: [MBZ] OT: List wisdom re: Sub tranny flush

2006-06-01 Thread Levi Smith

To the best of my knowledge, changing fliud by hand is only going to change
about half the fluid (what's in the pan), unless there's a drain on the
torque converter.  So besides not getting nice clean fluid through the
cavities, you'll probably never get all the burned stuff out.  (though after
a few changes, one would think you might be up to a decent percentage)...

Levi

On 6/1/06, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Took my 2000 Suburban 102k miles in the other day for a recall fix (fuel
sender wires or something), they did a general inspection (to get me to
OK them having at it $$$, no doubt).  One of the points was that it
needed a tranny flush (burned fluid).  Reasonable enough I suppose,
though I did change the tranny fluid a year and half ago or so.  I know
that does not get the TC fluid out, which continues to be old stuff.
There was a bit of discussion on this flush technique a few weeks ago,
sounds like an OK procedure.  I am wondering though, how the tranny is
set up -- does TC fluid actually mix with the pan fluid in some fashion
while operating?  Is draining/refilling a time or two a close enough
approach to cleaning out the TC?  Tranny fluid is cheap enough compared
to the flush cost ($50), seems like it might do pretty close if just
cleaning the fluid is the main benefit.

Thoughts?

--R


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[MBZ] Welding driver's door check [was Re: Continued off topic]

2006-06-01 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 06:22:12 -0700 Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > 1981 300SD  EM   276k miles, and getting a welding job today to firm 
> > up the
> > driver's door check.
> 
> Gave the Frankenheap one of those, and it really helped a lot!
> 
> -- Jim

The bracket in the door frame that holds the driver's door check is loose
on my car. I presume that that is what you're welding.

So how does one do the welding?



Craig



Re: [MBZ] OT: List wisdom re: Sub tranny flush

2006-06-01 Thread Jim Cathey

set up -- does TC fluid actually mix with the pan fluid in some fashion
while operating?


Absolutely!  The fluid is pumped into the TC, and from there circulates
through the rest of the tranny before draining into the pan.


Is draining/refilling a time or two a close enough
approach to cleaning out the TC?


Yes.  The normal service interval (whatever that is) is supposed
to take this dilution of new/old into account.  Unless something
is wrong and the fluid is being ruined early.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Welding driver's door check

2006-06-01 Thread Jim Cathey
The bracket in the door frame that holds the driver's door check is 
loose

on my car. I presume that that is what you're welding.


No, the door itself was rusting apart in my case, the attachment
in the frame was fine.


So how does one do the welding?


Umm, carefully?  Grab welder and weld anything that looks like it
needs it.  Have hose handy for putting out fires.  Lots of wet
towels to drape around to catch sparks.

It helps, of course, if the car is a heap and you don't care what
it ends up looking like.  When cosmetics count things get a lot
harder!

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] OT: List wisdom re: Sub tranny flush

2006-06-01 Thread Rich Thomas
I think I will drain the pan (or see if the $2 sucker will work), 
refill, and do it again in a coupla weeks.  See what that does.


--R

Jim Cathey wrote:


set up -- does TC fluid actually mix with the pan fluid in some fashion
while operating?
   



Absolutely!  The fluid is pumped into the TC, and from there circulates
through the rest of the tranny before draining into the pan.

 


Is draining/refilling a time or two a close enough
approach to cleaning out the TC?
   



Yes.  The normal service interval (whatever that is) is supposed
to take this dilution of new/old into account.  Unless something
is wrong and the fluid is being ruined early.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: List wisdom re: Sub tranny flush

2006-06-01 Thread Trampas
A co-worker took his minivan to a shop. The belt squeals as I think his A/C
compressor is locking up. They told him the belt was just lose and said that
carbon was getting the air intake and he needed to change air filter and
clean injectors for $400. Additionally they said he need new shocks and
struts for $600. They actually told him that the shocks and struts need to
be changed every 20,000 miles! 

Trampas

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I think I will drain the pan (or see if the $2 sucker will work), 
refill, and do it again in a coupla weeks.  See what that does.

--R

Jim Cathey wrote:

>>set up -- does TC fluid actually mix with the pan fluid in some fashion
>>while operating?
>>
>>
>
>Absolutely!  The fluid is pumped into the TC, and from there circulates
>through the rest of the tranny before draining into the pan.
>
>  
>
>>Is draining/refilling a time or two a close enough
>>approach to cleaning out the TC?
>>
>>
>
>Yes.  The normal service interval (whatever that is) is supposed
>to take this dilution of new/old into account.  Unless something
>is wrong and the fluid is being ruined early.
>
>-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] OT: List wisdom re: Sub tranny flush

2006-06-01 Thread R A Bennell
I would suggest that you consider doing the flush yourself. If you disconnect 
the tranny cooler lines you should be
able to attach hoses onto them. Put the suction side in the container of new 
fluid and the pressure side into a
container to catch the old stuff. Start her up and pump about 10 gallons 
through and you should have got out pretty
well all of the old stuff. Wastes a bit of fluid but should be cheaper than 
having the flush done at the dealer.

I would also say that in my experience the tranny in the Suburban is not 
terribly robust. I would change fluid
often and hope for a longer tranny life.

Randy B

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I think I will drain the pan (or see if the $2 sucker will work),
refill, and do it again in a coupla weeks.  See what that does.

--R

Jim Cathey wrote:

>>set up -- does TC fluid actually mix with the pan fluid in some fashion
>>while operating?
>>
>>
>
>Absolutely!  The fluid is pumped into the TC, and from there circulates
>through the rest of the tranny before draining into the pan.
>
>
>
>>Is draining/refilling a time or two a close enough
>>approach to cleaning out the TC?
>>
>>
>
>Yes.  The normal service interval (whatever that is) is supposed
>to take this dilution of new/old into account.  Unless something
>is wrong and the fluid is being ruined early.
>
>-- Jim
>
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Re: [MBZ] Serpentine Belt Tensioner Components

2006-06-01 Thread M.Afzaal Khan
Hi!   At what mileage did you have to change this.? just like to know what 
is the life of a belt tensioner and other  idler pulley's associated with it 
.

mak
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Hi! Just finished replacing the components of the belt tensioner - took
about 2 hours - removed the shroud and fan then the other pieces - but I
could figure out how to get the upper pivot off - thought it was a allen
bolt but closer inspection says no.  But I looked at it closely and 
decided

it looked fine anyway and re-used it.  The lower tensioner pivot and the
spring and damper all had play in them and the engine is much quieter now.

Glad it's over ;-)

Sincerely,
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[MBZ] Seat repair again

2006-06-01 Thread R A Bennell
I finally hauled the driver's seat out of my 76 300D last night and partially 
dismantled it. The spring base seems
intact but has quite a bit of surface rust on it. I assume it had no paint of 
any sort from the factory and this is
just the result of 30 year's exposure to humidity etc. Horsehair pad is toast 
of course which was the reason for
looking into this issue. I have decided not to obtain a new horsehair pad and 
am going the "new" route.  My thought
was to use a piece of carpet to insulate the new replacement padding stuff that 
I picked up at Wally Mart. Can't
recall the name but there was mention of a writeup about seat repair on here a 
while back and that fibrous plasticy
stuff is what the fellow used. I am now thinking I may find some sort of light 
canvas type material and use it to
wrap over the piece of carpet to hold it in place and to permit me to use a 
spray adhesive to hold the fibrous
stuff in place. In the writeup the fellow used pool noodles cut down to bolster 
the sides. I'm thinking that the
fibrous stuff should be  sufficient if I glue some more onto the sides of the 
larger piece to provide the amount of
bolster needed. There does not seem to be much bolster in the original 
horsehair padding. I have not yet decided
whether I should try to stuff pool noodle material into the spring base. It 
actually seems to be keeping my rear
off of the floor as it is and I don't want to make the seat too hard or to high 
as the steering wheel will become
more difficult to slide under.
So, any comment from those that have done this?

Randy B





Re: [MBZ] 82 300TDt -wrecked

2006-06-01 Thread Richard Murdoch

 The front end of our 83 300D wagon took a real hit yesterday.   My wife's 
first comment was that had she been in anything else she might have been hurt.

Susan was driving about 35mph when a woman in a 2007 (yes, 2007) Lexus pulled 
across the road; never saw my wife until they collided.  Susan tried to turn 
into a parking lot driveway so the left front corner took the hit but the other 
car was moving hard enough to twist the front end of our car.

The front passenger side door opens but with slight resistance; oil started 
running out but not before she cut the car off.  I'm assuming it was the oil 
cooler.

The other driver took responsibility for the incident.  

We want to get the car fixed.

Any where I can post some pictures?   We want to have it repaired jf we can.

This really puts a kink in our summer plans.  One of our children is getting 
married in three weeks and moving to Texas. My wife needs a wagon to do all the 
wedding stuff as well as get our daughter's house ready to sell - all that 80 
to 100 miles away from where we live.   We were also planning to take the wagon 
to Oshkosh in July.

Richard Murdoch
82 240D
82 300TDt (maybe)
83 300D parts car
79 240D waiting for transplant





Re: [MBZ] 82 300TDt -wrecked

2006-06-01 Thread Sunil Hari

glad to hear your wife is ok - #1 concern.

the insurance company will probably try to total your car and give you $2000
for it.  If this happens, hire legal representation and stick it to them.

On 6/1/06, Richard Murdoch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



The front end of our 83 300D wagon took a real hit yesterday.   My wife's
first comment was that had she been in anything else she might have been
hurt.

Susan was driving about 35mph when a woman in a 2007 (yes, 2007) Lexus
pulled across the road; never saw my wife until they collided.  Susan tried
to turn into a parking lot driveway so the left front corner took the hit
but the other car was moving hard enough to twist the front end of our car.

The front passenger side door opens but with slight resistance; oil
started running out but not before she cut the car off.  I'm assuming it was
the oil cooler.

The other driver took responsibility for the incident.

We want to get the car fixed.

Any where I can post some pictures?   We want to have it repaired jf we
can.

This really puts a kink in our summer plans.  One of our children is
getting married in three weeks and moving to Texas. My wife needs a wagon to
do all the wedding stuff as well as get our daughter's house ready to sell -
all that 80 to 100 miles away from where we live.   We were also planning to
take the wagon to Oshkosh in July.

Richard Murdoch
82 240D
82 300TDt (maybe)
83 300D parts car
79 240D waiting for transplant



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Re: [MBZ] Seat repair again

2006-06-01 Thread Sunil Hari

Go to Meijer or Wal-Mart and buy a twin bed-size egg-crate mattress pad.
The size happens to be -exactly- the right size for restuffing a 115 seat.
One pad should be enough to restuff both passenger seats and the bench seat
in the back (but you'll be out of foam before you redo the rear seat
backrest, which will probably be fine anyway).

I did this repair two years ago with great success - seats felt better than
any other 115 seat I've plunked down in.  They, along with the engine, were
the best parts of my 240D.


On 6/1/06, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I finally hauled the driver's seat out of my 76 300D last night and
partially dismantled it. The spring base seems
intact but has quite a bit of surface rust on it. I assume it had no paint
of any sort from the factory and this is
just the result of 30 year's exposure to humidity etc. Horsehair pad is
toast of course which was the reason for
looking into this issue. I have decided not to obtain a new horsehair pad
and am going the "new" route.  My thought
was to use a piece of carpet to insulate the new replacement padding stuff
that I picked up at Wally Mart. Can't
recall the name but there was mention of a writeup about seat repair on
here a while back and that fibrous plasticy
stuff is what the fellow used. I am now thinking I may find some sort of
light canvas type material and use it to
wrap over the piece of carpet to hold it in place and to permit me to use
a spray adhesive to hold the fibrous
stuff in place. In the writeup the fellow used pool noodles cut down to
bolster the sides. I'm thinking that the
fibrous stuff should be  sufficient if I glue some more onto the sides of
the larger piece to provide the amount of
bolster needed. There does not seem to be much bolster in the original
horsehair padding. I have not yet decided
whether I should try to stuff pool noodle material into the spring base.
It actually seems to be keeping my rear
off of the floor as it is and I don't want to make the seat too hard or to
high as the steering wheel will become
more difficult to slide under.
So, any comment from those that have done this?

Randy B



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Re: [MBZ] Seat repair again

2006-06-01 Thread Tom Scordato
Go to the Walmart and by those floaty styra foam things the kids use in the 
pools, noodles they are called.  Cut them up and stuff  them between all the 
springs.. Helps\

Tom
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Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Seat repair again



Go to Meijer or Wal-Mart and buy a twin bed-size egg-crate mattress pad.
The size happens to be -exactly- the right size for restuffing a 115 seat.
One pad should be enough to restuff both passenger seats and the bench 
seat

in the back (but you'll be out of foam before you redo the rear seat
backrest, which will probably be fine anyway).

I did this repair two years ago with great success - seats felt better 
than
any other 115 seat I've plunked down in.  They, along with the engine, 
were

the best parts of my 240D.


On 6/1/06, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I finally hauled the driver's seat out of my 76 300D last night and
partially dismantled it. The spring base seems
intact but has quite a bit of surface rust on it. I assume it had no 
paint

of any sort from the factory and this is
just the result of 30 year's exposure to humidity etc. Horsehair pad is
toast of course which was the reason for
looking into this issue. I have decided not to obtain a new horsehair pad
and am going the "new" route.  My thought
was to use a piece of carpet to insulate the new replacement padding 
stuff

that I picked up at Wally Mart. Can't
recall the name but there was mention of a writeup about seat repair on
here a while back and that fibrous plasticy
stuff is what the fellow used. I am now thinking I may find some sort of
light canvas type material and use it to
wrap over the piece of carpet to hold it in place and to permit me to use
a spray adhesive to hold the fibrous
stuff in place. In the writeup the fellow used pool noodles cut down to
bolster the sides. I'm thinking that the
fibrous stuff should be  sufficient if I glue some more onto the sides of
the larger piece to provide the amount of
bolster needed. There does not seem to be much bolster in the original
horsehair padding. I have not yet decided
whether I should try to stuff pool noodle material into the spring base.
It actually seems to be keeping my rear
off of the floor as it is and I don't want to make the seat too hard or 
to

high as the steering wheel will become
more difficult to slide under.
So, any comment from those that have done this?

Randy B



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Re: [MBZ] Serpentine Belt Tensioner Components

2006-06-01 Thread Marshall Booth

M.Afzaal Khan wrote:
Hi!   At what mileage did you have to change this.? just like to know what 
is the life of a belt tensioner and other  idler pulley's associated with it 


The original tensioner arms and idlers used on '84-'85 OM60x engines 
seldom lasted more than 50-75kmi. The later ones seemed good for 
75-150kmi. By the '90s they may still be better (the aftermarket ones 
MAY not be - I haven't had any of them in long enough to know). Factory 
shocks seem to last 75+kmi while aftermarket ones seem more likely to 
fail by 50kmi. The belts on my cars seem to go for 75kmi as long as the 
arm and idler are in good working order (a bad arm, idler, shock or any 
belt driven accessory will cause a belt to fail prematurely).


YMMV as climatic and environmental factors DO play a role in life of 
these parts.


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] 82 300TDt -wrecked

2006-06-01 Thread Jim Cathey

The front passenger side door opens but with slight resistance...
We want to get the car fixed.


With damage all the way back into the door, I don't think there's
any way you'll be getting that car fixed.  Body work just costs
too much.  DIY you could maybe whack it into drivable shape, but
she'll never be the same.  Time to start shopping for another
one I think.  Was yours a particularly fine example, or are others
like it available on the market?

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Nationwide tour

2006-06-01 Thread John Berryman


On Jun 1, 2006, at 7:46 AM, archer wrote:

Johnny B., I hope you are fortunate enough to have many, many good  
years
with your wife as I was.  We celebrated our fiftieth wedding  
anniversary in

June of last year.
Gerry Archer


	Thank-You Gerry. I'll take as much time with her as is humanly  
possible. I am truly blessed to know Cathy.



Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] Welding driver's door check [was Re: Continued off topic]

2006-06-01 Thread BillR
That is the spot.  Mine was cracking out from the corners. I did it the easy
way - took it to an auto body shop I use.  They welded and repainted it for
me gratis [but I am a regular customer].  Guy sanded to bare metal and
welded up the cracks, then painted the area [not a great paint job, but also
not exactly visible most of the time]. The price was right.

BillR 
1981 300SD  EM  276k, and now with a solid door check bracket.

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Subject: [MBZ] Welding driver's door check [was Re: Continued off topic]

On Thu, 1 Jun 2006 06:22:12 -0700 Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > 1981 300SD  EM   276k miles, and getting a welding job today to firm 
> > up the
> > driver's door check.
> 
> Gave the Frankenheap one of those, and it really helped a lot!
> 
> -- Jim

The bracket in the door frame that holds the driver's door check is loose on
my car. I presume that that is what you're welding.

So how does one do the welding?



Craig

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Re: [MBZ] CA-spec '85 300D transmission?

2006-06-01 Thread tom savage

Marshall Booth wrote:

The earlier 722.3 transmissions will work on '85 cars, but the '85 722.3 
transmission won't fit onto an earlier car/engine. I'm NOT sure about 
the 722.416 transmissions from '85 California certified 300D/TD/CD/SDs, 
but they do have a high stall speed torque converters and the earlier 
transmissions with a torque converter with much lower stall speed would 
make the car feel REALLY sluggish and slow at low speeds.


Thanks Marshall; glad to see that I had the early/85 interchange 
backwards. I forgot about the stall speed change.  Wonder if the later 
TC can be mated to an earlier transmission?



There are not a lot of '85 722.416 transmissions floating around.


Especially here in the midwest, alas.

Tom



Re: [MBZ] 82 300TDt -wrecked

2006-06-01 Thread John Berryman


On Jun 1, 2006, at 1:26 PM, Richard Murdoch wrote:

This really puts a kink in our summer plans.  One of our children  
is getting married in three weeks and moving to Texas. My wife  
needs a wagon to do all the wedding stuff as well as get our  
daughter's house ready to sell - all that 80 to 100 miles away from  
where we live.   We were also planning to take the wagon to Oshkosh  
in July.


Richard Murdoch



	Bummer Rich, glad your wife's OK. I have an OK wagon that sprung a  
slight leak in the rear suspension. My buddy's Mom was thinking about  
buying it. It has a few spots of rust through and some ugly surface  
rust on the LR door. 202,000mi runs great shifts great. I did a lot  
of work to it last year and I really don't recall all that I had  
done. It will need a driveshaft center bearing (noisy) but other than  
that and the suspension leak (probably a steel line haven't looked  
yet), I'd drive it anywhere. I'm in NY. I also have another wagon  
that definitely neds some lines for susp in the back, that I can be  
convinced to sell but would prefer not to on short notice.
	If interested, call (518)526-2279 me pronto or e-mail me 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] privately. I just got put on stand-by from  
FEMA for the New Hampshire/Massachusetts floods. I will be un-subbing  
and out of here within 24-48 hours.


Johnny B.
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Re: [MBZ] 82 300TDt -wrecked

2006-06-01 Thread Richard Hattaway
Richard,

Glad Susan is OK.  Give me a call sometime and we can discuss available
TD's.  I agree with the lister that says yours is dead.  Too bad, as it
was a beautiful car.  Doubt that you would be satisfied with just any
old rustbucket (c: .

If the door is binding on the passenger side after the driver's side
was hit, there is pretty severe frame damage.  Too bad.

You still need that cam on my shop desk?  It is rapidly going to find a
new home.

Richard
(the Salisbury one)


--- Richard Murdoch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
>  The front end of our 83 300D wagon took a real hit yesterday.   My
> wife's first comment was that had she been in anything else she might
> have been hurt.
> 
> Susan was driving about 35mph when a woman in a 2007 (yes, 2007)
> Lexus pulled across the road; never saw my wife until they collided. 
> Susan tried to turn into a parking lot driveway so the left front
> corner took the hit but the other car was moving hard enough to twist
> the front end of our car.
> 
> The front passenger side door opens but with slight resistance; oil
> started running out but not before she cut the car off.  I'm assuming
> it was the oil cooler.
> 
> The other driver took responsibility for the incident.  
> 
> We want to get the car fixed.
> 
> Any where I can post some pictures?   We want to have it repaired jf
> we can.
> 
> This really puts a kink in our summer plans.  One of our children is
> getting married in three weeks and moving to Texas. My wife needs a
> wagon to do all the wedding stuff as well as get our daughter's house
> ready to sell - all that 80 to 100 miles away from where we live.  
> We were also planning to take the wagon to Oshkosh in July.
> 
> Richard Murdoch
> 82 240D
> 82 300TDt (maybe)
> 83 300D parts car
> 79 240D waiting for transplant
> 
>

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Re: [MBZ] OT: List wisdom re: Sub tranny flush

2006-06-01 Thread David Brodbeck

R A Bennell wrote:

I would suggest that you consider doing the flush yourself. If you disconnect 
the tranny cooler lines you should be
able to attach hoses onto them. Put the suction side in the container of new 
fluid and the pressure side into a
container to catch the old stuff. Start her up and pump about 10 gallons 
through and you should have got out pretty
well all of the old stuff. Wastes a bit of fluid but should be cheaper than 
having the flush done at the dealer.
  


This only works if the "suction side" actually "sucks"!  On some cars 
there *is* no suction, they rely on pressure to push the oil through the 
cooler and back into the trans.





Re: [MBZ] CA-spec '85 300D transmission?

2006-06-01 Thread Marshall Booth

tom savage wrote:

Marshall Booth wrote:

The earlier 722.3 transmissions will work on '85 cars, but the '85 722.3 
transmission won't fit onto an earlier car/engine. I'm NOT sure about 
the 722.416 transmissions from '85 California certified 300D/TD/CD/SDs, 
but they do have a high stall speed torque converters and the earlier 
transmissions with a torque converter with much lower stall speed would 
make the car feel REALLY sluggish and slow at low speeds.


Thanks Marshall; glad to see that I had the early/85 interchange 
backwards. I forgot about the stall speed change.  Wonder if the later 
TC can be mated to an earlier transmission?


People have tried everything in the world to use the later transmission 
or torque converter on earlier engines but they can't be easily modified 
(even by really experienced/creative mechanics).





There are not a lot of '85 722.416 transmissions floating around.


Especially here in the midwest, alas.

Tom


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[MBZ] The hits just keep on a comin'

2006-06-01 Thread John Berryman

OK Y'all,
	Its been real and its been fun but Mother Nature is still pissed off  
and I just got my stand-by call from FEMA to work the New Hampshire/ 
Massachusetts floods. This means that I will be Haulin' Ass no doubt  
within 24-48 hours. It should not be too long in duration but I must  
commit to a minimum of 21 days, working 16-20 hours a day.
	I will not have the time or internet access to deal with the  
numerous posts from these forums. I will be un-subbing shortly. I  
apologize for any unfinished business and will resume upon my return.



	Fred Moir, thank-you very much. The package arrived only 2 days  
after you sent it. I would like to pay you for the lamp and shipping.  
If you have a PayPal account I could do it today. If not, I still  
have your home addy and will have Cathy mail you a check.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] Serpentine Belt Tensioner Components

2006-06-01 Thread l02turner
I replaced my tensioner components at 104k Miles - for me, it's easier to 
change all the pieces at once - also, since the lower pivot can really 
damage things if it breaks - it's the critical piece.  It should be changed 
as soon as you can see it is now longer aligned with the belt - it will cock 
closer to the engine.


Also - to check the lower tensioner - look at it while the engine idles - 
you can use a long sturdy screwdriver to pry the tensioner back into 
alignment -


To change everything was ~$200 in parts from Rusty.

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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From: "Marshall Booth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Serpentine Belt Tensioner Components



M.Afzaal Khan wrote:
Hi!   At what mileage did you have to change this.? just like to know 
what
is the life of a belt tensioner and other  idler pulley's associated with 
it


The original tensioner arms and idlers used on '84-'85 OM60x engines
seldom lasted more than 50-75kmi. The later ones seemed good for
75-150kmi. By the '90s they may still be better (the aftermarket ones
MAY not be - I haven't had any of them in long enough to know). Factory
shocks seem to last 75+kmi while aftermarket ones seem more likely to
fail by 50kmi. The belts on my cars seem to go for 75kmi as long as the
arm and idler are in good working order (a bad arm, idler, shock or any
belt driven accessory will cause a belt to fail prematurely).

YMMV as climatic and environmental factors DO play a role in life of
these parts.

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] CA-spec '85 300D transmission?

2006-06-01 Thread John Berryman


On Jun 1, 2006, at 3:07 PM, Marshall Booth wrote:

People have tried everything in the world to use the later  
transmission
or torque converter on earlier engines but they can't be easily  
modified

(even by really experienced/creative mechanics).


	I was always under the impression that the trans can be used with an  
earlier torque convertor (without the extended pilot). I never did  
need to find out for sure.


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Re: [MBZ] Seat repair again

2006-06-01 Thread l02turner

Randy,
   One thing to keep in mind - When you are assembling things - make sure 
you include additional padding on each side of the seat - you want your butt 
to be *cradled* in the middle of the seat - else you'll be sliding back and 
forth.  The tendency to make the surface close to flat will result in an 
uncomfortable seating position -


Good luck -

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo, 78 240D)

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- Original Message - 
From: "R A Bennell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 12:57 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Seat repair again


I finally hauled the driver's seat out of my 76 300D last night and 
partially dismantled it. The spring base seems
intact but has quite a bit of surface rust on it. I assume it had no paint 
of any sort from the factory and this is
just the result of 30 year's exposure to humidity etc. Horsehair pad is 
toast of course which was the reason for
looking into this issue. I have decided not to obtain a new horsehair pad 
and am going the "new" route.  My thought
was to use a piece of carpet to insulate the new replacement padding stuff 
that I picked up at Wally Mart. Can't
recall the name but there was mention of a writeup about seat repair on 
here a while back and that fibrous plasticy
stuff is what the fellow used. I am now thinking I may find some sort of 
light canvas type material and use it to
wrap over the piece of carpet to hold it in place and to permit me to use 
a spray adhesive to hold the fibrous
stuff in place. In the writeup the fellow used pool noodles cut down to 
bolster the sides. I'm thinking that the
fibrous stuff should be  sufficient if I glue some more onto the sides of 
the larger piece to provide the amount of
bolster needed. There does not seem to be much bolster in the original 
horsehair padding. I have not yet decided
whether I should try to stuff pool noodle material into the spring base. 
It actually seems to be keeping my rear
off of the floor as it is and I don't want to make the seat too hard or to 
high as the steering wheel will become

more difficult to slide under.
So, any comment from those that have done this?

Randy B



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Re: [MBZ] OT: List wisdom re: Sub tranny flush

2006-06-01 Thread R A Bennell
Use a big funnel and pour into the "suction side" if you have to.

Randy B

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Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 2:05 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: List wisdom re: Sub tranny flush


R A Bennell wrote:
> I would suggest that you consider doing the flush yourself. If you disconnect 
> the tranny cooler lines you should
be
> able to attach hoses onto them. Put the suction side in the container of new 
> fluid and the pressure side into a
> container to catch the old stuff. Start her up and pump about 10 gallons 
> through and you should have got out
pretty
> well all of the old stuff. Wastes a bit of fluid but should be cheaper than 
> having the flush done at the dealer.
>

This only works if the "suction side" actually "sucks"!  On some cars
there *is* no suction, they rely on pressure to push the oil through the
cooler and back into the trans.


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Re: [MBZ] Seat repair again

2006-06-01 Thread andrew strasfogel

Randy, what's wrong with ordering an OEM pad from Rusty?  Are they that
expensive?  Yours is a great looking W115 300D so why do something
un-original when fixing it?

On 6/1/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Randy,
   One thing to keep in mind - When you are assembling things - make sure
you include additional padding on each side of the seat - you want your
butt
to be *cradled* in the middle of the seat - else you'll be sliding back
and
forth.  The tendency to make the surface close to flat will result in an
uncomfortable seating position -

Good luck -

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo, 78 240D)

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- Original Message -
From: "R A Bennell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 12:57 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Seat repair again


>I finally hauled the driver's seat out of my 76 300D last night and
>partially dismantled it. The spring base seems
> intact but has quite a bit of surface rust on it. I assume it had no
paint
> of any sort from the factory and this is
> just the result of 30 year's exposure to humidity etc. Horsehair pad is
> toast of course which was the reason for
> looking into this issue. I have decided not to obtain a new horsehair
pad
> and am going the "new" route.  My thought
> was to use a piece of carpet to insulate the new replacement padding
stuff
> that I picked up at Wally Mart. Can't
> recall the name but there was mention of a writeup about seat repair on
> here a while back and that fibrous plasticy
> stuff is what the fellow used. I am now thinking I may find some sort of
> light canvas type material and use it to
> wrap over the piece of carpet to hold it in place and to permit me to
use
> a spray adhesive to hold the fibrous
> stuff in place. In the writeup the fellow used pool noodles cut down to
> bolster the sides. I'm thinking that the
> fibrous stuff should be  sufficient if I glue some more onto the sides
of
> the larger piece to provide the amount of
> bolster needed. There does not seem to be much bolster in the original
> horsehair padding. I have not yet decided
> whether I should try to stuff pool noodle material into the spring base.
> It actually seems to be keeping my rear
> off of the floor as it is and I don't want to make the seat too hard or
to
> high as the steering wheel will become
> more difficult to slide under.
> So, any comment from those that have done this?
>
> Randy B
>
>
>
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[MBZ] Porsche in PnP

2006-06-01 Thread redghost
Went to the PnP today in search of toys.  Saw that the pen held a baby 
blue 914.  Wonder how long that will take to strip.  Bet it would make 
a good platform for a 4x4



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Re: [MBZ] GP Install - 91 300D 2.5

2006-06-01 Thread l02turner

Ned wrote:<< I've done it with as little as a new manifold gasket>>

Thanks Ned,
I'm ordering parts - I'm getting the 2 intake manifold/crossover pipe 
gaskets, new fuel pipe clips and new GPs.


Is there anything else I should have on hand?  I already have 1/4" &  3/8" 
torque wrenches - but it sounds like it'll be easier if I get some wobble 
sockets or extensions -


Except for having a minature mechanic in my tool box - is there anything I'm 
forgetting?  Is any gasket compound recommended for the intake manifold 
gasket or does it go on dry?


Thanks for your and others comments -

Sincerely,
Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo)
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From: "ned kleinhenz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Diesel List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] GP Install - 91 300D 2.5



Larry:
I agree with everything the others posted about what to have ready.
I've done it with as little as a new manifold gasket.  But I don't 
recommend

going that economically.

But I might add that a torque wrence is useful for getting the mainfold 
back

on tight enough without
stripping the aluminum head.  My 606 engine uses torx (sp?) type bolts to
fasten the manifold - so be ready in case that is what your engine has.  I
bought what seems to be a good enough 1/4" torque wrench from Harbor 
Freight

for ~$10 IIRC.

Ned Kleinhenz
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Re: [MBZ] Porsche in PnP

2006-06-01 Thread Zeitgeist

You're a sick man.  Please seek help.

On 6/1/06, redghost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Went to the PnP today in search of toys.  Saw that the pen held a baby
blue 914.  Wonder how long that will take to strip.  Bet it would make
a good platform for a 4x4




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Re: [MBZ] Seat repair again

2006-06-01 Thread R A Bennell
No, they are not all that expensive, if I recall. I just wondered if I could 
actually improve it with modern stuff.
I'm also in the situation where I will ultimately need to replace the seat 
upholstery as there is already one small
hole in the MB Tex from the spring rubbing where the horsehair had 
disintigrated. I am reluctant to change the
upholstery for fear the color won't quite match and am prepared to live with 
the fairly minor damage for now. If
and when I do that, I will think harder about putting the original style 
horsehair back in. Momentarily, I am just
trying to make the driver's seat more comfortable and not do it any more harm. 
I'm not a radical but I am not a
purist. I don't object to changes if they are equal or better than the original 
and don't make it look silly.

Randy B

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 3:23 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Seat repair again


Randy, what's wrong with ordering an OEM pad from Rusty?  Are they that
expensive?  Yours is a great looking W115 300D so why do something
un-original when fixing it?

On 6/1/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Randy,
>One thing to keep in mind - When you are assembling things - make sure
> you include additional padding on each side of the seat - you want your
> butt
> to be *cradled* in the middle of the seat - else you'll be sliding back
> and
> forth.  The tendency to make the surface close to flat will result in an
> uncomfortable seating position -
>
> Good luck -
>
> Sincerely,
> Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo, 78 240D)
>
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> For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
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> - Original Message -
> From: "R A Bennell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 12:57 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] Seat repair again
>
>
> >I finally hauled the driver's seat out of my 76 300D last night and
> >partially dismantled it. The spring base seems
> > intact but has quite a bit of surface rust on it. I assume it had no
> paint
> > of any sort from the factory and this is
> > just the result of 30 year's exposure to humidity etc. Horsehair pad is
> > toast of course which was the reason for
> > looking into this issue. I have decided not to obtain a new horsehair
> pad
> > and am going the "new" route.  My thought
> > was to use a piece of carpet to insulate the new replacement padding
> stuff
> > that I picked up at Wally Mart. Can't
> > recall the name but there was mention of a writeup about seat repair on
> > here a while back and that fibrous plasticy
> > stuff is what the fellow used. I am now thinking I may find some sort of
> > light canvas type material and use it to
> > wrap over the piece of carpet to hold it in place and to permit me to
> use
> > a spray adhesive to hold the fibrous
> > stuff in place. In the writeup the fellow used pool noodles cut down to
> > bolster the sides. I'm thinking that the
> > fibrous stuff should be  sufficient if I glue some more onto the sides
> of
> > the larger piece to provide the amount of
> > bolster needed. There does not seem to be much bolster in the original
> > horsehair padding. I have not yet decided
> > whether I should try to stuff pool noodle material into the spring base.
> > It actually seems to be keeping my rear
> > off of the floor as it is and I don't want to make the seat too hard or
> to
> > high as the steering wheel will become
> > more difficult to slide under.
> > So, any comment from those that have done this?
> >
> > Randy B
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Serpentine Belt Tensioner Components

2006-06-01 Thread mykd1
Here's a quick rule of thumb when replacing the serpentine belt. Check the 
operation of all the drive components, idler, tensioner and so on. If any of 
these have excessive play or are noisy, replace it. They don't always last the 
life of the car so its a good bet to replace them if you car has high mileage. 
my 2 cents 
 
69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles
72 350SL   108,000 Miles
2004 VW Passat 4 Motion
1999 Mazda Miata   
 
 
-Original Message-
From: Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 14:04:12 -0400
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Serpentine Belt Tensioner Components


M.Afzaal Khan wrote:
> Hi!   At what mileage did you have to change this.? just like to know what 
> is the life of a belt tensioner and other  idler pulley's associated with it 

The original tensioner arms and idlers used on '84-'85 OM60x engines 
seldom lasted more than 50-75kmi. The later ones seemed good for 
75-150kmi. By the '90s they may still be better (the aftermarket ones 
MAY not be - I haven't had any of them in long enough to know). Factory 
shocks seem to last 75+kmi while aftermarket ones seem more likely to 
fail by 50kmi. The belts on my cars seem to go for 75kmi as long as the 
arm and idler are in good working order (a bad arm, idler, shock or any 
belt driven accessory will cause a belt to fail prematurely).

YMMV as climatic and environmental factors DO play a role in life of 
these parts.

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Seat repair again

2006-06-01 Thread Sunil Hari

Any upholstery shop should be able to fix MB-Tex passably well.  Also, I
don't recommend side bolstering - the MB-Tex has acquired a certain shape
after 30 years.  To try and change that is inviting tears and general
disaster.

On 6/1/06, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


No, they are not all that expensive, if I recall. I just wondered if I
could actually improve it with modern stuff.
I'm also in the situation where I will ultimately need to replace the seat
upholstery as there is already one small
hole in the MB Tex from the spring rubbing where the horsehair had
disintigrated. I am reluctant to change the
upholstery for fear the color won't quite match and am prepared to live
with the fairly minor damage for now. If
and when I do that, I will think harder about putting the original style
horsehair back in. Momentarily, I am just
trying to make the driver's seat more comfortable and not do it any more
harm. I'm not a radical but I am not a
purist. I don't object to changes if they are equal or better than the
original and don't make it look silly.

Randy B

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 3:23 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Seat repair again


Randy, what's wrong with ordering an OEM pad from Rusty?  Are they that
expensive?  Yours is a great looking W115 300D so why do something
un-original when fixing it?

On 6/1/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Randy,
>One thing to keep in mind - When you are assembling things - make
sure
> you include additional padding on each side of the seat - you want your
> butt
> to be *cradled* in the middle of the seat - else you'll be sliding back
> and
> forth.  The tendency to make the surface close to flat will result in an
> uncomfortable seating position -
>
> Good luck -
>
> Sincerely,
> Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo, 78 240D)
>
> A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net
> For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
> Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
> http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info
> - Original Message -
> From: "R A Bennell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 12:57 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] Seat repair again
>
>
> >I finally hauled the driver's seat out of my 76 300D last night and
> >partially dismantled it. The spring base seems
> > intact but has quite a bit of surface rust on it. I assume it had no
> paint
> > of any sort from the factory and this is
> > just the result of 30 year's exposure to humidity etc. Horsehair pad
is
> > toast of course which was the reason for
> > looking into this issue. I have decided not to obtain a new horsehair
> pad
> > and am going the "new" route.  My thought
> > was to use a piece of carpet to insulate the new replacement padding
> stuff
> > that I picked up at Wally Mart. Can't
> > recall the name but there was mention of a writeup about seat repair
on
> > here a while back and that fibrous plasticy
> > stuff is what the fellow used. I am now thinking I may find some sort
of
> > light canvas type material and use it to
> > wrap over the piece of carpet to hold it in place and to permit me to
> use
> > a spray adhesive to hold the fibrous
> > stuff in place. In the writeup the fellow used pool noodles cut down
to
> > bolster the sides. I'm thinking that the
> > fibrous stuff should be  sufficient if I glue some more onto the sides
> of
> > the larger piece to provide the amount of
> > bolster needed. There does not seem to be much bolster in the original
> > horsehair padding. I have not yet decided
> > whether I should try to stuff pool noodle material into the spring
base.
> > It actually seems to be keeping my rear
> > off of the floor as it is and I don't want to make the seat too hard
or
> to
> > high as the steering wheel will become
> > more difficult to slide under.
> > So, any comment from those that have done this?
> >
> > Randy B
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] The hits just keep on a comin'

2006-06-01 Thread BillR
Johnny B.  - I've got a sister and a few nephews and nieces in that neck of
the woods.  Be careful up there and take care of the folks.
BillR 

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Subject: [MBZ] The hits just keep on a comin'

OK Y'all,
Its been real and its been fun but Mother Nature is still pissed off
and I just got my stand-by call from FEMA to work the New Hampshire/
Massachusetts floods. This means that I will be Haulin' Ass no doubt within
24-48 hours. It should not be too long in duration but I must commit to a
minimum of 21 days, working 16-20 hours a day.
I will not have the time or internet access to deal with the
numerous posts from these forums. I will be un-subbing shortly. I apologize
for any unfinished business and will resume upon my return.


Fred Moir, thank-you very much. The package arrived only 2 days
after you sent it. I would like to pay you for the lamp and shipping.  
If you have a PayPal account I could do it today. If not, I still have your
home addy and will have Cathy mail you a check.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

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[MBZ] ODO REPAIR

2006-06-01 Thread wilton strickland
Anybody know name/address of speedometer repair shop?
Can't do it myself.

Wilton



Re: [MBZ] ODO REPAIR

2006-06-01 Thread BillR
Just saved this one:
http://www.odometergears.com/
BillR 

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Anybody know name/address of speedometer repair shop?
Can't do it myself.

Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] 82 300TDt -wrecked

2006-06-01 Thread John W. Reames III
On Thu, 1 Jun 2006, Sunil Hari wrote:
> the insurance company will probably try to total your car and give you $2000
> for it.  If this happens, hire legal representation and stick it to them.

Two words: NADA Classics.

Have receipts too btw, but since it isnt on KBB anymore, its NADA classic 
only...

NADA classics show $4450 for a turd, $7775 for "average" and $11350 for a
REALLY good example... You should get somewhere in between high and mid
for it at least.. Thats a good start on a replacement.
-j.





Re: [MBZ] Seat repair again

2006-06-01 Thread R A Bennell
What I meant by bolstering the sides is just to add some of the same padding 
material on the sides to sort of shape
it like the horsehair pad. I assume, looking at the horsehair pad that the 
sides and front were thicker than the
centre portion. I'm not looking to make modern Recaro seats out of the remains 
of my old seat.

Randy B

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Any upholstery shop should be able to fix MB-Tex passably well.  Also, I
don't recommend side bolstering - the MB-Tex has acquired a certain shape
after 30 years.  To try and change that is inviting tears and general
disaster.

On 6/1/06, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> No, they are not all that expensive, if I recall. I just wondered if I
> could actually improve it with modern stuff.
> I'm also in the situation where I will ultimately need to replace the seat
> upholstery as there is already one small
> hole in the MB Tex from the spring rubbing where the horsehair had
> disintigrated. I am reluctant to change the
> upholstery for fear the color won't quite match and am prepared to live
> with the fairly minor damage for now. If
> and when I do that, I will think harder about putting the original style
> horsehair back in. Momentarily, I am just
> trying to make the driver's seat more comfortable and not do it any more
> harm. I'm not a radical but I am not a
> purist. I don't object to changes if they are equal or better than the
> original and don't make it look silly.
>
> Randy B
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 3:23 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Seat repair again
>
>
> Randy, what's wrong with ordering an OEM pad from Rusty?  Are they that
> expensive?  Yours is a great looking W115 300D so why do something
> un-original when fixing it?
>
> On 6/1/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Randy,
> >One thing to keep in mind - When you are assembling things - make
> sure
> > you include additional padding on each side of the seat - you want your
> > butt
> > to be *cradled* in the middle of the seat - else you'll be sliding back
> > and
> > forth.  The tendency to make the surface close to flat will result in an
> > uncomfortable seating position -
> >
> > Good luck -
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 91 300D Turbo, 78 240D)
> >
> > A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net
> > For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
> > Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
> > http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "R A Bennell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 12:57 PM
> > Subject: [MBZ] Seat repair again
> >
> >
> > >I finally hauled the driver's seat out of my 76 300D last night and
> > >partially dismantled it. The spring base seems
> > > intact but has quite a bit of surface rust on it. I assume it had no
> > paint
> > > of any sort from the factory and this is
> > > just the result of 30 year's exposure to humidity etc. Horsehair pad
> is
> > > toast of course which was the reason for
> > > looking into this issue. I have decided not to obtain a new horsehair
> > pad
> > > and am going the "new" route.  My thought
> > > was to use a piece of carpet to insulate the new replacement padding
> > stuff
> > > that I picked up at Wally Mart. Can't
> > > recall the name but there was mention of a writeup about seat repair
> on
> > > here a while back and that fibrous plasticy
> > > stuff is what the fellow used. I am now thinking I may find some sort
> of
> > > light canvas type material and use it to
> > > wrap over the piece of carpet to hold it in place and to permit me to
> > use
> > > a spray adhesive to hold the fibrous
> > > stuff in place. In the writeup the fellow used pool noodles cut down
> to
> > > bolster the sides. I'm thinking that the
> > > fibrous stuff should be  sufficient if I glue some more onto the sides
> > of
> > > the larger piece to provide the amount of
> > > bolster needed. There does not seem to be much bolster in the original
> > > horsehair padding. I have not yet decided
> > > whether I should try to stuff pool noodle material into the spring
> base.
> > > It actually seems to be keeping my rear
> > > off of the floor as it is and I don't want to make the seat too hard
> or
> > to
> > > high as the steering wheel will become
> > > more difficult to slide under.
> > > So, any comment from those that have done this?
> > >
> > > Randy B
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] The hits just keep on a comin'

2006-06-01 Thread John Berryman


On Jun 1, 2006, at 5:44 PM, BillR wrote:


 Be careful up there and take care of the folks.
BillR



I'll do my best.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am



Re: [MBZ] OT: List wisdom re: Sub tranny flush

2006-06-01 Thread Peter Frederick
unless you drill a hole in the TC, all the fluid will stay in it 
(unless you let it sit six or so months, and then only half will drain 
out...).  The "flush" techique uses the cooler lines -- one to spill 
out, the other to suck fresh fluid in.  Works well, with the normal 
caveat -- an old, high milage, tranny will sometimes fail immediately 
after getting fresh fluid.  Not a problem if you've been changing it, 
but something to watch out for.


Peter




Re: [MBZ] Seat repair again

2006-06-01 Thread Peter Frederick
Egg-crate sleeping bag mat is the way to go.  I also used a thin 
closed-cell foam pad under the two layers of egg-crate on the rear seat 
of my brother's 75 300D.  Get them at Target or K-Mart, the ones at 
Wally World are too cheesy.


Cut to fit just larger than the springs with the "points" up, then fit 
another peice on top, points down, large enough to wrap around the 
front edge and fold under -- it needs to stick out an inch and a half 
or so -- as close to the size of the original pad as possible (you can 
use the cover as a pattern).


Get a picking out needle at the craft store and sew and glue the 
overlapped part down to hold shape.  A chunk of thin (3/8") closed cell 
foam pad underneath won't hurt, and you can use it to raise the sides, 
too.


Won't be perfect, but beats sitting on the springs six ways to sunday!

Peter




Re: [MBZ] 82 300TDt -wrecked

2006-06-01 Thread Bob Rentfro

Be careful, Johnny B.

Bob Rentfro


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On Jun 1, 2006, at 1:26 PM, Richard Murdoch wrote:


This really puts a kink in our summer plans.  One of our children
is getting married in three weeks and moving to Texas. My wife
needs a wagon to do all the wedding stuff as well as get our
daughter's house ready to sell - all that 80 to 100 miles away from
where we live.   We were also planning to take the wagon to Oshkosh
in July.

Richard Murdoch



Bummer Rich, glad your wife's OK. I have an OK wagon that sprung a
slight leak in the rear suspension. My buddy's Mom was thinking about
buying it. It has a few spots of rust through and some ugly surface
rust on the LR door. 202,000mi runs great shifts great. I did a lot
of work to it last year and I really don't recall all that I had
done. It will need a driveshaft center bearing (noisy) but other than
that and the suspension leak (probably a steel line haven't looked
yet), I'd drive it anywhere. I'm in NY. I also have another wagon
that definitely neds some lines for susp in the back, that I can be
convinced to sell but would prefer not to on short notice.
If interested, call (518)526-2279 me pronto or e-mail me
[EMAIL PROTECTED] privately. I just got put on stand-by from
FEMA for the New Hampshire/Massachusetts floods. I will be un-subbing
and out of here within 24-48 hours.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

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[MBZ] Fw: dan caron clan registration

2006-06-01 Thread BenzBarn

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