Re: [MBZ] A/C O-Rings
You can get AC oring assortments at just about any parts store. When you put the new Oring on, DO NOT lubricate it with ester or PAG oil used with r134a, they will dry the new oring out and it will leak before long. get a can of old style R12 mineral oil and lubricate the new orings with that before installing. Check around. Most places want about $30 for a qt of the stuff, O'reilly's had it for around $12 a qt last time i had to buy a can a couple of months ago If you have a fitting too hard to turn, Stop, get a can of Aero Kroil, http://www.kanolabs.com/ soak the fitting down for a few days, re spray it once in a while, then go after it. ---Robert Bill Gallagher wrote: > My A/C has a slow leak since conversion to the new R. Is there a kit of > O-Ring for a 123 to solve the problem > If there is a fitting too difficult to turn, can a matte of > exposy wrapped around the fitting hold under the pressure > TIA > > Bill > 1981 300 TD > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i'm going insane
What kind of miles do these cars have, and can you expect some kind of service history with these cars? Ed 300E On 23/07/07, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Another '92 300D 2.5 Turbo I was watching just ended at $3000. Looks > like the market is crashing. It's time to buy > > On 7/22/07, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You should have accepted my first offer > > > > On 7/22/07, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > My 2.5 turbo sold on ebay, WAY TOO CHEAP. Geez. As cheap as it went, > I > > > cant believe somebody here didnt buy it. Now THAT is insane. > > > > > -- > OK Don, KD5NRO > Norman, OK > "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." > -Benjamin Disraeli > '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Odo reset 190DT
Mine is still ticking at 340,000 kms in the 300E. It's funny this is brought up as I'm looking at several cars now. Once they say the cars odo doesn't work, I usually walk away from it. Do you guys take your cars with brokes odos in to a shop for an oil change once in a while, just for the paperwork? You would show somebody that you bought oil, but how do they know you haven't poured it into other cars for the past 5 years? :-) Ed 300E-334,000 kms odo working 911SC-58,000 kms yes, that odo is correct and working too. hee hee On 23/07/07, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The only odo that I have that works is in the oldest car - the '78 > SLC. "They don't make 'em like they used to." > > On 7/22/07, Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on my former 300D, both odos were still working perfectly at 292Kmi. > > > > -- > OK Don, KD5NRO > Norman, OK > "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." > -Benjamin Disraeli > '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Odo reset 190DT
> All VDO odometers eventually fail, although mine in the 300D is going > on 270,000 miles with no trouble yet. The one in the TE croaked at > less than 200,000 -- trip odometer won't flip over past 0.9 miles. The Chicken Wagon's odometer has finally succumbed to this malady. It's the first such failure in our stable. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A/C O-Rings
> My A/C has a slow leak since conversion to the new R. Is there a kit of > O-Ring for a 123 to solve the problem Harbor Freight has an assortment of green O-rings that is usually $10 on sale, I think $15 regular price. No doubt suitable rings are to be found in it. > If there is a fitting too difficult to turn, can a matte of > epoxy wrapped around the fitting hold under the pressure The 450 SL's low-pressure hose was leaking where the ferrule crimps over the hard line. With twisting and wiggling I could get the leak to stop, whereupon I cleaned it with acetone and formed a wad of JB-Weld around it. It had R12 in it, I didn't want to evacuate it in order to replace the line unless I had to do so. It has held for years, though now the car is sold and I'll no longer be able to track it. Do _not_ glue over a fitting that is meant to be opened, that will earn you the undying enmity of the next guy who attempts to service it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i'm going insane
speaking of wagons, I bought this really nice 87 300TD, red with tan, 150k on it. Had it about a month, only drove it once. Geez, I shouldnt let it sit, wonder what I should do with it? Well, if it sits another month and a half, I'll have some money saved up. Man, that's quite tempting! Has the #14 head been replaced? Also, how's the SLS? What would you be asking for it? Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Welder, again
Hijack thread! MULTIQUIP DCI-500SSW trailer mounted 500 amp DC arc welder/4500 watt generator, ISUZU diesel MULTIQUIP BLW-300SS trailer mounted 300 amp DC arc welder/10 KW generator, MITSUBISHI diesel BOSS trailer mounted light tower w/LINCOLN Ranger 10 arc welder/ generator, 3 cyl diesel 8' T/A utility trailer w/MILLER BIG 40G gas arc welder/generator, w/ wirefeeder 6' utility trailer w/LINCOLN SAM400 arc welder/generator, 4 cyl diesel YOKOHMA YK190E 190 amp welder/2000W generator YASUTORA welder/generator These little beauties are going up for auction Saturday and I figure with all the chatter, you could use one for zapping metal or powering the house. There are no cars worth mentioning. I have no interest or affiliation. You can bid live online. http://www.murphyauctions.net/ kenmore07jul.html -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] A/C O-Rings
My A/C has a slow leak since conversion to the new R. Is there a kit of O-Ring for a 123 to solve the problem If there is a fitting too difficult to turn, can a matte of exposy wrapped around the fitting hold under the pressure TIA Bill 1981 300 TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i'm going insane
Another '92 300D 2.5 Turbo I was watching just ended at $3000. Looks like the market is crashing. It's time to buy On 7/22/07, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You should have accepted my first offer > > On 7/22/07, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My 2.5 turbo sold on ebay, WAY TOO CHEAP. Geez. As cheap as it went, I > > cant believe somebody here didnt buy it. Now THAT is insane. > > -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Odo reset 190DT
The only odo that I have that works is in the oldest car - the '78 SLC. "They don't make 'em like they used to." On 7/22/07, Sunil Hari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on my former 300D, both odos were still working perfectly at 292Kmi. > -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i'm going insane
You should have accepted my first offer On 7/22/07, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My 2.5 turbo sold on ebay, WAY TOO CHEAP. Geez. As cheap as it went, I > cant believe somebody here didnt buy it. Now THAT is insane. > -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Odo reset 190DT
on my former 300D, both odos were still working perfectly at 292Kmi. On 7/22/07, Hendrik Riessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That's like asking, "If I change my oil regularly will my engine never > break?" > Unfortunatley with the mechanical odo's they will break eventually, even > if > you only reset when stopped. It is a ordinary design and there is no way > of > fixing that. > What I am saying is that conventional wisdom is to reset tripmeters when > they are not turning. > Whether you do or not is up to you, just like changing the oil is up to > you. > > - Original Message - > From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 11:30 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Odo reset 190DT > > > > So if you only reset the trip counter when the vehicle is stationary > > does this GUARANTEE that the odometer will NEVER break??? > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i'm going insane
if a kaleb car went for that much, i asked for too little for my 2.5t On 7/22/07, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 20:50:10 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > My 2.5 turbo sold on ebay, WAY TOO CHEAP. Geez. As cheap as it went, I > > cant believe somebody here didnt buy it. Now THAT is insane. > > You're right, $3,755.00 is cheap. > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Crack in dash [was Re: Seat refinishing]
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 19:04:24 -0700 (PDT) LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > www.leatherique.com > > Tell George I sent you and that you're on a Mercedes > list - he'll give you a good deal (I get nothing from > this other than to let him know I'm spreading the word > as a courtesy - he's a really nice guy and very good > businessman.) I have a crack on the vertical surface of our black W123 dash near the ignition lock. What would I use to repair that before it gets any bigger? Thanks, Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Odo reset 190DT
That's like asking, "If I change my oil regularly will my engine never break?" Unfortunatley with the mechanical odo's they will break eventually, even if you only reset when stopped. It is a ordinary design and there is no way of fixing that. What I am saying is that conventional wisdom is to reset tripmeters when they are not turning. Whether you do or not is up to you, just like changing the oil is up to you. - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Odo reset 190DT > So if you only reset the trip counter when the vehicle is stationary > does this GUARANTEE that the odometer will NEVER break??? > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i'm going insane
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 20:50:10 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My 2.5 turbo sold on ebay, WAY TOO CHEAP. Geez. As cheap as it went, I > cant believe somebody here didnt buy it. Now THAT is insane. You're right, $3,755.00 is cheap. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 02 sensor?? Where?
Yup. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 02 sensor?? Where?
So it passed through a rubber gromit or something? Thanks Peter, I'll have a look around tomorrow, or tonight with a light if I can't sleep. Ed 300E On 22/07/07, Peter Frederick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The electrical connector is under the carpet on the passenger side > front floor. Sensor is in front of the catalytic convertor, on top. > > Peter > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i'm going insane
NO. Go to your room, young man! "Just looking" turns into lust, and lust turns into money changing hands, and eventually Kaleb will send a title. On 7/22/07, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sunil Hari wrote: > > John, you JUST BOUGHT MINE. Do you really want another Kaleb car? > > He's only had it a month! I can 'just look' ;) > > > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ Make a small loan, Make a big difference - Kiva.org ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Odo reset 190DT
Andrew.. About as much as there is a GUARANTEE that if you eat and drink some prescribed diet, you will live forever! There are NO NEVER BREAK or LIVE FOREVER Guarantees. But, you can replace your broken Craftsman wrench w/no concern as to calendar Your offspring can do that! Hope all is well w/you in the DC Maelstrom. Chuck Phoenix AZ... On Jul 22, 2007, at 7:00 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: > So if you only reset the trip counter when the vehicle is stationary > does this GUARANTEE that the odometer will NEVER break??? > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Odo reset 190DT
All VDO odometers eventually fail, although mine in the 300D is going on 270,000 miles with no trouble yet. The one in the TE croaked at less than 200,000 -- trip odometer won't flip over past 0.9 miles. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i'm going insane
Sunil Hari wrote: > John, you JUST BOUGHT MINE. Do you really want another Kaleb car? He's only had it a month! I can 'just look' ;) As an aside... the 300D made the trip just fine! Actually made it back at around midnight last night (still not sure how we pulled that one off). The car *really* drives great on the interstate :) A note about the plates... Got pulled over today for my lack of them, and showing the title/bill of sale kept me out of a ticket, etc. FYI John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Odo reset 190DT
"andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So if you only reset the trip counter when the vehicle is stationary > does this GUARANTEE that the odometer will NEVER break??? No. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 02 sensor?? Where?
The electrical connector is under the carpet on the passenger side front floor. Sensor is in front of the catalytic convertor, on top. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] that kid of mine
I don't know if the Pismo has the same battery internal firmware as the Wallstreet, but you may want to see if the battery reset program is available from apple. Otherwise, either the charge board or the battery itself is damaged. This is a reminder that laptop computers are fragile. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] For W115 Experts *ONLY*
> I am losing my sense of humor about the neutral gearshift interlock on > my 74 240D 4-speed. It supposedly keeps the driver from starting the > car in gear, but now it has failed and the starter can't be engaged by > the pullknob. The gearshift position sensor switch is fine, but the > confounded relay, wherever it is, is locked open. My 115, 1972, has no relay. Just the switch. (Two, actually. One on the column shift, and another that I added for the floor shift. Only one is connected, just like the shifters!) There can't be that many relays to consider, nor are there a multitude of hiding places. If you have a relay, it must be part of that wretched seat belt interlock system. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuses -----
For those of you in Canada, you can usually find all the different sizes real cheap in Canadian Tire. I do them on my porsche as Larry says. I also put a dab of dielectric grease on the ends of each and give them a spin ffrom time to time. I've never had a fuse, connection, or ground related problem with that car yet, and it's an '80. Ed 300E On 22/07/07, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > IMHO, This should be standard maintanence for each 10 year > anniversary. Or > sooner if mysterious problems arise, as sometimes it *really* is that > simple. > > Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) > www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts > Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil > PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net > Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs > . > > - Original Message - > From: "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 7:36 PM > Subject: [MBZ] Fuses - > > > > It's been a while since I recall seeing this topic, so I thought I'd > > make sure that it remains forefront in our minds ;-) > > > > Two weeks ago the SDL started loping at idle - not enough to see the > > tach needle swing, but enough to be disconcerting. Two days ago the > > ACC stopped working - totally. No response to any button. The > > indicator light for the mono valve stayed off. > > A few years ago, on advise from this list, I purchased a couple of > > complete fuse replacement kits from Rusty. This seemed like a good > > time to install one - > > > > Rather than attempt to even determine which fuses might be suspect, I > > proceeded to replace all the fuses in the fuse box under the hood > > (bonnet for those not in the US). As I removed one fuse that was quite > > blown, I looked it up and found it to be for the ACC, among other > > circuits. > > > > The ACC works fine now, and the engine idles smooth and steady as you > > could ask for. > > > > Therefore - to paraphrase our guru - "Replace ALL the FUSES now!!!". > > > > Thank you Marshal --- > > > > -- > > OK Don, KD5NRO > > Norman, OK > > "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." > > -Benjamin Disraeli > > '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.12/910 - Release Date: > 7/21/2007 > > 3:52 PM > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 02 sensor?? Where?
I had a look around the exhaust manifold with no luck, tried to find a wire to trace ect. I checked on Rusty's site and I think he has them for about $100 or so, and I think that's with the wire and exact fit, so no splicing or anything. I have one of those sockets with a slit in the side, that allows the wire to fit through. You have to remove it and readjust it so the wire doesn't get to twisted, but they work well. I bought a meter to read dwell and the 02 seems ok, in that you can see it work, but I've read that as they age, they can appear to work, but they work slower in making adjustments. The car was rich enough too when I first to it, that I fear a lot of the crap has gone down stream and probably gummed things up a little. Well, it's on the list of things to change, so I know I've done the work and if future problems come up, I can rule it out. The car does have lots of miles and I don'tknwo when it was last changed. I've seen them on other cars with over 100K and still perfect. thanks Hendrik. Regards, Ed 300E On 22/07/07, Hendrik Riessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well yes you can change it, or you can test it to see if it is working. > Genuine MB sensors are expensive but aftermarket ones can be used. > If you are really keen to chnage it, have a look at your exhaust system, > usually it is just in front of the cat (alytic converter) or it could be > closer to the exhaust manifold. It should have a shield around it and > require a 22 mm(?) ring spanner to undo and they are usually VERY tight so > make sure you get a real good grip on it. > The procedure is to undo the wiring to the O2 sensor and then feed the > wires > through the ring spanner, make sure you use a combination spanner so you > can > get another large spanner onto the 22 mm one. It is NOT advisable to use a > hammer to whack the spanner. > > - Original Message - > From: "E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 10:23 AM > Subject: [MBZ] 02 sensor?? Where? > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > Have fun waxing and just playing with the 300E today. Was thinking of > > changing the 02 sensor just as a maintance thing as I don't know when it > > was > > last done and the car has miles. Think I can find the thing!!! anyway, > > it's an '88 300E gasser. Where should I look? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Ed > > 300E > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] For W115 Experts *ONLY*
On my 74, it would start in any gear, but the wiring on that thing was futzed to no end. But check under the shift boot (where the reverse light switch is). Could it be because of the "safety interlock" switch that wouldn't let you start the car without the seatbelt fastened? Most 115's have had this fixed, but some haven't. On 7/22/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On my 74, there was a relay under the drivers side of the dash, just to > the > left of the steering wheel. I pulled the relay and inserted a jumper > wire, > as I recall. I am also the one that suggested you check the AC/Start > relay on > the firewall, which as you state is not the problem. > > Jim Friesen > Phoenix AZ > 79 300SD, 267 K miles > 98 ML 320, 151 K miles > > > > > ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL > at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i'm going insane
John, you JUST BOUGHT MINE. Do you really want another Kaleb car? On 7/22/07, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > yea I need to. Need to wash and wax it first though, paint is kind of > dull but will buff right back. > > John Robbins wrote: > > Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > >> speaking of wagons, I bought this really nice 87 300TD, red with tan, > >> 150k on it. Had it about a month, only drove it once. Geez, I > shouldnt > >> let it sit, wonder what I should do with it. > > > > Take pictures? > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D, > 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, > 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 > http://www.okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 02 sensor?? Where?
and I'll make sure it's the copper stuff not the alum. ;-) Ed 300E On 22/07/07, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And put a dab of anti-seize on the threads of the new one. > > Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) > www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts > Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil > PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net > Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs > . > > - Original Message - > From: "Hendrik Riessen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 9:29 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 02 sensor?? Where? > > > > Well yes you can change it, or you can test it to see if it is working. > > Genuine MB sensors are expensive but aftermarket ones can be used. > > If you are really keen to chnage it, have a look at your exhaust system, > > usually it is just in front of the cat (alytic converter) or it could be > > closer to the exhaust manifold. It should have a shield around it and > > require a 22 mm(?) ring spanner to undo and they are usually VERY tight > so > > make sure you get a real good grip on it. > > The procedure is to undo the wiring to the O2 sensor and then feed the > > wires > > through the ring spanner, make sure you use a combination spanner so you > > can > > get another large spanner onto the 22 mm one. It is NOT advisable to use > a > > hammer to whack the spanner. > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 10:23 AM > > Subject: [MBZ] 02 sensor?? Where? > > > > > >> Hi Everyone, > >> > >> Have fun waxing and just playing with the 300E today. Was thinking of > >> changing the 02 sensor just as a maintance thing as I don't know when > it > >> was > >> last done and the car has miles. Think I can find the > thing!!! anyway, > >> it's an '88 300E gasser. Where should I look? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Ed > >> 300E > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.12/910 - Release Date: > 7/21/2007 > > 3:52 PM > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Seat refinishing
www.leatherique.com Tell George I sent you and that you're on a Mercedes list - he'll give you a good deal (I get nothing from this other than to let him know I'm spreading the word as a courtesy - he's a really nice guy and very good businessman.) You'll have to snip a small piece of the leather from under the seat or some other area that's out of sight and send it to him so they can match the crack filler and dye to your leather. Believe it or not, you'll sand (yes, I said "sand") the leather to rough it up, spread the filler just like body putty, let it dry, they apply the dye. George and Krystal will walk you through it if you need help - it's not hard to do. Dan Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i'm going insane
yea I need to. Need to wash and wax it first though, paint is kind of dull but will buff right back. John Robbins wrote: > Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: >> speaking of wagons, I bought this really nice 87 300TD, red with tan, >> 150k on it. Had it about a month, only drove it once. Geez, I shouldnt >> let it sit, wonder what I should do with it. > > Take pictures? > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Odo reset 190DT
So if you only reset the trip counter when the vehicle is stationary does this GUARANTEE that the odometer will NEVER break??? On 7/19/07, Hendrik Riessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > However it is good practise to only reset the tripmeter when the car is > stopped, particularly on the 123 chassis. > A good driver shouldn't be fiddling with reset buttons while they are > driving anyway. > I know, I know, most drivers do anything but drive. They do things like read > the newspaper, talk/text on the phone, do the nails, fiddle with the stereo, > eat/drink, have sex, etc, etc > Then when the big bang occurs they come out with the old "I only took my > eyes off the road for a second", which is all very nice except for the dead > kid who was just chasing his football. > I don't know the situation over there but here the authorities are busy > dumbing down the laws to take into account peoples stupidity. Some roads > around town you can only 40k's an hour and getting caught talking on the > phone is a couple of hundred bucks. There was just a case where someone got > fined for talking on his hands free because the police deemed pushing the > talk button on the phone was illegal. Kinda stupid when you consider that > you can fiddle with the radio all day long. > > - Original Message - > From: "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'Frederick Moir'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Mercedes Discussion List'" > > Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 7:11 AM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Odo reset 190DT > > > > There is nothing in the mechanism that will cause the button to stick or > > fail only when you are moving. > > > > Thanks, Tom > > 256-656-1924 > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Seat refinishing
Where can I purchase this mythical "crack filler"? On 7/19/07, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just read an interesting article about refinishing seats. SOme of you have > talked about Leatherique, etc and some other methods - this article says the > leather seats are treated very similarily to the paint on the body. For > instance, severe problem areas are sanded to reach good material. Also, the > seats being restored are in a 1991 Porsche 911. The leather was painted > originally and coated with a clear coat to keep the leather from > transferring to your pants. Deep cracks are filled with a filler which is > flexible and permanent and lasts for years. The painting must match the > original color and is then clear coated. The piping is painted also - by > hand much like pin striping. > > Anyway, that's the short version.I get this magazine on CD from a frined > but it may be 6 months before he sends it to me. But at that time I can > probably share it a little easier to anyone interested. > > Later ya'll > Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) > www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts > Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil > PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net > Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs > . > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mystery wheel
H...I'll have to go to the local Volvo/Saab graveyard and have a look see.I have seen a wheel like that and if it wasn't on a Sonnet I am stumped. Maybe an older Volvo..they has 15's but I don't recall how many lugs. Mike > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> I'm thinking maybe from a Saab Sonnet. > > Every 97 I've seen had five lugs. I think the same > applies to 95s and 96s. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i'm going insane
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > speaking of wagons, I bought this really nice 87 300TD, red with tan, > 150k on it. Had it about a month, only drove it once. Geez, I shouldnt > let it sit, wonder what I should do with it. Take pictures? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i'm going insane
speaking of wagons, I bought this really nice 87 300TD, red with tan, 150k on it. Had it about a month, only drove it once. Geez, I shouldnt let it sit, wonder what I should do with it. Kevin Kraly wrote: > What is wrong with me? > > You've got the MB Dieselitis Bug, and the only cure is to have at least one > Mercedes Diesel in the driveway. The W124 300TD is an excellent choice, but > what about that simple '74 240D W115 you've been longin' for? There's only > one thing to do, buy 'em both! > > Kevin in Portland, OR > 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] my new 85 380se
might want to keep the CD then, no way you are going to get anywhere near 2k wrecked. eric peterson wrote: > Thanks for the replies. I did end up purchasing the > 380SE it was better than I expected. 112K dealer > stamped book up thru about 80K. No service records > per se but from the dealer stamps and general > apperance it was well kept. It has everything that > came with the car from new... window sticker, bill of > sale, build sheet, and new car inspection checklist, > sales literature for the 85 models, owners manual, > parts manual, hang tag for directions of the climate > control, hang tag for becker radio, three cleaning > swabs and directions for the cassette player on the > becker, a hirschman cleaning cloth for the antenna, > tool kit in the original plastic bag with lists > several models for the tool kit, spare never been out > of the trunk, jack still has the hang tag on it. Runs > so quiet I have to look at the tach to make sure its > running. No rust, no accidents no rips tears or wear > in the leather interior. The leather is really pretty > nice I was very surprised because I tend to like the > MB tex better. The only things I can find that will > need attention are repaint the rocker areas as they > are getting thin in a couple areas and you can see the > regular white paint starting to peek thru. Beyond > that the AC needs something but not sure just what. > Had a new compressor and was converted to 134a about > 30K miles ago so it may be just needing a recharge. > Now I have to figure out what I am doing with the > 300CD. 113K on the clok but took a big hit in the > drivers rear 1/4. didn't spring the frame. What it > needs is rear 1/4 rear trunk apron and repair trunk > and new bumper. This is absolutely the tightest > diesel I've ever driven and I've had several. Well I > don't need to make any decisions yet. If I can't get > at least $2K I'll just keep it and maybe fix it down > the road. > > Thank > Eric > 85 380SE 112K > 85 300CD 113K > > > > > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel > and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 02 sensor?? Where?
And put a dab of anti-seize on the threads of the new one. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: "Hendrik Riessen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 02 sensor?? Where? > Well yes you can change it, or you can test it to see if it is working. > Genuine MB sensors are expensive but aftermarket ones can be used. > If you are really keen to chnage it, have a look at your exhaust system, > usually it is just in front of the cat (alytic converter) or it could be > closer to the exhaust manifold. It should have a shield around it and > require a 22 mm(?) ring spanner to undo and they are usually VERY tight so > make sure you get a real good grip on it. > The procedure is to undo the wiring to the O2 sensor and then feed the > wires > through the ring spanner, make sure you use a combination spanner so you > can > get another large spanner onto the 22 mm one. It is NOT advisable to use a > hammer to whack the spanner. > > - Original Message - > From: "E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 10:23 AM > Subject: [MBZ] 02 sensor?? Where? > > >> Hi Everyone, >> >> Have fun waxing and just playing with the 300E today. Was thinking of >> changing the 02 sensor just as a maintance thing as I don't know when it >> was >> last done and the car has miles. Think I can find the thing!!! anyway, >> it's an '88 300E gasser. Where should I look? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Ed >> 300E > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.12/910 - Release Date: 7/21/2007 > 3:52 PM > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i'm going insane
My 2.5 turbo sold on ebay, WAY TOO CHEAP. Geez. As cheap as it went, I cant believe somebody here didnt buy it. Now THAT is insane. Sunil Hari wrote: > Just sold my 92 300D to John Robbins - he drove up from Mississippi > overnight, took a drive and loved it, paid, and left. > > Now of course, I'm looking for my next MB. Guy I know has a 87 300TD with > 200Kmi - gold with palomino Tex interior, just had a major service done, has > a 3rd row seat - seems like a winner. I'm taking a test drive later. He > wants $4500 for it, but that may be flexible. > > Two questions: > > 1) What is wrong with me? > > 2) If I don't buy this car, is anyone else interested? > > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, (2x) 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 87 300TD, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Welder, again
If you need to buy welding helmet, I suggest you try one of the "Instant Darkening" types. I bught one when I got my MIG and the helmet was the highlight of the deal although the welder works pretty good once the power and wire feed settings are optimized. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: "Allan Streib" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 8:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Welder, again > Well, tried out the Harbor Freight welder today. Worked OK I guess, I > have nothing to compare it to and no prior experience, but I was able > to get a patch of 1/8" steel welded onto the mower deck where I needed > it. > > Observations -- the wire drive housing is entirely made of plastic > except for the pinch rollers. Worked OK though. > > It has four current settings, controled by two switches, i.e. a binary > code: 00, 01, 10, or 11. Sorry, couldn't help injecting a little > computer humor. > > The power cord is not near long enough, it's about 6 feet or so. Sort > of makes it hard to achieve the recomendation in the manual to work at > least 35 feet away from any combustible material. I'm going to > replace it with about 20 feet of heavier gauge, so I can weld out in > the driveway. > > The ground clamp is low quality, like the clamp on a set of low-end > jumper cables. Need to upgrade that at some point. > > The hand-held face shield it came with worked OK but I'll have to get > a proper welding helmet if I end up using this thing regularly. > > Could not tell if the deck was galvanized and could not find a > respirator anywhere that was open today so I set up a fan and > positioned myself "upwind" of where I was welding. > > > Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>> Be WICKED careful welding a mower deck. Alot of them are >>> galvanized. Welding galvanized releases the zinc and can make you >>> real sick. Do it outside on a windy day. >> >> Well this one is painted, but I guess that does not mean it's not >> galvanized. >> >> I'll be careful. >> >> Allan >> -- >> 1983 300D >> 1966 230 >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > -- > 1983 300D > 1966 230 > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.12/910 - Release Date: 7/21/2007 > 3:52 PM > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] For W115 Experts *ONLY*
On my 74, there was a relay under the drivers side of the dash, just to the left of the steering wheel. I pulled the relay and inserted a jumper wire, as I recall. I am also the one that suggested you check the AC/Start relay on the firewall, which as you state is not the problem. Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 267 K miles 98 ML 320, 151 K miles ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuses -----
IMHO, This should be standard maintanence for each 10 year anniversary. Or sooner if mysterious problems arise, as sometimes it *really* is that simple. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 7:36 PM Subject: [MBZ] Fuses - > It's been a while since I recall seeing this topic, so I thought I'd > make sure that it remains forefront in our minds ;-) > > Two weeks ago the SDL started loping at idle - not enough to see the > tach needle swing, but enough to be disconcerting. Two days ago the > ACC stopped working - totally. No response to any button. The > indicator light for the mono valve stayed off. > A few years ago, on advise from this list, I purchased a couple of > complete fuse replacement kits from Rusty. This seemed like a good > time to install one - > > Rather than attempt to even determine which fuses might be suspect, I > proceeded to replace all the fuses in the fuse box under the hood > (bonnet for those not in the US). As I removed one fuse that was quite > blown, I looked it up and found it to be for the ACC, among other > circuits. > > The ACC works fine now, and the engine idles smooth and steady as you > could ask for. > > Therefore - to paraphrase our guru - "Replace ALL the FUSES now!!!". > > Thank you Marshal --- > > -- > OK Don, KD5NRO > Norman, OK > "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." > -Benjamin Disraeli > '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.12/910 - Release Date: 7/21/2007 > 3:52 PM > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 02 sensor?? Where?
Well yes you can change it, or you can test it to see if it is working. Genuine MB sensors are expensive but aftermarket ones can be used. If you are really keen to chnage it, have a look at your exhaust system, usually it is just in front of the cat (alytic converter) or it could be closer to the exhaust manifold. It should have a shield around it and require a 22 mm(?) ring spanner to undo and they are usually VERY tight so make sure you get a real good grip on it. The procedure is to undo the wiring to the O2 sensor and then feed the wires through the ring spanner, make sure you use a combination spanner so you can get another large spanner onto the 22 mm one. It is NOT advisable to use a hammer to whack the spanner. - Original Message - From: "E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 10:23 AM Subject: [MBZ] 02 sensor?? Where? > Hi Everyone, > > Have fun waxing and just playing with the 300E today. Was thinking of > changing the 02 sensor just as a maintance thing as I don't know when it > was > last done and the car has miles. Think I can find the thing!!! anyway, > it's an '88 300E gasser. Where should I look? > > Thanks, > > Ed > 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] For W115 Experts *ONLY*
take a peak under the shift boot. There are two do-hickeys there with buttons. One even has a power connector on it. Up toward the front of the shifter. Follow that wire and it will lead you to nirvana, or maybe jimi hendricks I do not have a functional neutral lock out on Gump, as she allows me to start in any old gear I choose when the transmission is not screwed up by yours truly. clay On 22 Jul 2007, at 17:32, B Dike wrote: > Ok folks, I am losing my sense of humor about the neutral gearshift > interlock on my 74 240D 4-speed. It supposedly keeps the driver > from starting the car in gear, but now it has failed and the > starter can't be engaged by the pullknob. The gearshift position > sensor switch is fine, but the confounded relay, wherever it is, is > locked open. Anyone who can direct me to the location of the > neutral gearshift interlock relay so I can fix or defeat it will be > conferred the title of W115 Foremost and Honorable Master > Consultant. BTW, it is not one of the relays on the firewall or > by the battery, as I confirmed the function of both of these and > they serve other purposes and work fine, as well as the starter > itself which works fine. > > TIA, > > > > > Bruce > 82 300CD 348kmi 'His' > 85 300CD 253kmi 'Hers' > 75 240D 202kmi 'Donner' > 77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' gone to a better place > 74 240D 79kmi 'Orangewagen' > 73 220D 'Fnu Lnu' > > - > Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos > new Car Finder tool. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] have my first Armstrong tool
Sounds great, hope you have a special place reserved for it in the tool chest. :-) Ed 300E On 22/07/07, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 25-250ft-lb torque wrench. Proudly 100% made in the USA. Retails for > $225+ > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=300130720143&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=020 > > When the head to timing chain cover bolts arrive from Rusty, I can > confidently install the new head. I don't trust the $10 Harbor Freight > torque wrench... > > -- > Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark > '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case > '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) > '82 300CD (166 kmi) > '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold > '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 02 sensor?? Where?
Hi Everyone, Have fun waxing and just playing with the 300E today. Was thinking of changing the 02 sensor just as a maintance thing as I don't know when it was last done and the car has miles. Think I can find the thing!!! anyway, it's an '88 300E gasser. Where should I look? Thanks, Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Welder, again
Well, tried out the Harbor Freight welder today. Worked OK I guess, I have nothing to compare it to and no prior experience, but I was able to get a patch of 1/8" steel welded onto the mower deck where I needed it. Observations -- the wire drive housing is entirely made of plastic except for the pinch rollers. Worked OK though. It has four current settings, controled by two switches, i.e. a binary code: 00, 01, 10, or 11. Sorry, couldn't help injecting a little computer humor. The power cord is not near long enough, it's about 6 feet or so. Sort of makes it hard to achieve the recomendation in the manual to work at least 35 feet away from any combustible material. I'm going to replace it with about 20 feet of heavier gauge, so I can weld out in the driveway. The ground clamp is low quality, like the clamp on a set of low-end jumper cables. Need to upgrade that at some point. The hand-held face shield it came with worked OK but I'll have to get a proper welding helmet if I end up using this thing regularly. Could not tell if the deck was galvanized and could not find a respirator anywhere that was open today so I set up a fan and positioned myself "upwind" of where I was welding. Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Be WICKED careful welding a mower deck. Alot of them are >> galvanized. Welding galvanized releases the zinc and can make you >> real sick. Do it outside on a windy day. > > Well this one is painted, but I guess that does not mean it's not > galvanized. > > I'll be careful. > > Allan > -- > 1983 300D > 1966 230 > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] For W115 Experts *ONLY*
Ok folks, I am losing my sense of humor about the neutral gearshift interlock on my 74 240D 4-speed. It supposedly keeps the driver from starting the car in gear, but now it has failed and the starter can't be engaged by the pullknob. The gearshift position sensor switch is fine, but the confounded relay, wherever it is, is locked open. Anyone who can direct me to the location of the neutral gearshift interlock relay so I can fix or defeat it will be conferred the title of W115 Foremost and Honorable Master Consultant. BTW, it is not one of the relays on the firewall or by the battery, as I confirmed the function of both of these and they serve other purposes and work fine, as well as the starter itself which works fine. TIA, Bruce 82 300CD 348kmi 'His' 85 300CD 253kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 202kmi 'Donner' 77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' gone to a better place 74 240D 79kmi 'Orangewagen' 73 220D 'Fnu Lnu' - Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] that kid of mine
other than beat the kid? You seem to have cracked or smacked something that will now cost you four times what you have invested. Sell me the laptop for $25. Look for the power board on eBay and hope that solves the issue. The battery might have dislodged its micro chip telling it to have charge level. Not a software issue. clay who know enough to scare the crap out of himself while working inside his macs. On Jul 22, 2007, at 5:01 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: > dropped the pismo today in a parking lot > > now one of the batteries goes from 4% to 97% and visa versa and you > can't run the thing with any power adapter anymore. > > suggestions? > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] that kid of mine
dropped the pismo today in a parking lot now one of the batteries goes from 4% to 97% and visa versa and you can't run the thing with any power adapter anymore. suggestions? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT JB Weld repair experiences
In the early 1970's we broke a distributor rotor in the Travelall on the way home from vacation. Died within 100 yards of a service station, or dad managed to coast there. It was the Sunday before Labor Day. Service station did not have a distributor rotor for a V8 International truck engine, but they did have five minute E*POX*Y. 15 minutes later, we were on the road again. It got us home, I can't remember if dad replaced it after we got home or left it in the truck until the next tune-up. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fuses -----
It's been a while since I recall seeing this topic, so I thought I'd make sure that it remains forefront in our minds ;-) Two weeks ago the SDL started loping at idle - not enough to see the tach needle swing, but enough to be disconcerting. Two days ago the ACC stopped working - totally. No response to any button. The indicator light for the mono valve stayed off. A few years ago, on advise from this list, I purchased a couple of complete fuse replacement kits from Rusty. This seemed like a good time to install one - Rather than attempt to even determine which fuses might be suspect, I proceeded to replace all the fuses in the fuse box under the hood (bonnet for those not in the US). As I removed one fuse that was quite blown, I looked it up and found it to be for the ACC, among other circuits. The ACC works fine now, and the engine idles smooth and steady as you could ask for. Therefore - to paraphrase our guru - "Replace ALL the FUSES now!!!". Thank you Marshal --- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mystery wheel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I'm thinking maybe from a Saab Sonnet. Every 97 I've seen had five lugs. I think the same applies to 95s and 96s. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Welding Bicycle CroMoly Frames
LWB250 wrote: > > When I was in the generator business I had a rule: If > I find JB Weld on your truck, you're fired. Granted, > it was a liability thing, considering the nature of > the equipment we serviced. There's a fellow on a tractor forum who HATES JB Weld, or JBCan'tWeld as he calls it. It's a decent epoxy, but too many people use it in place of a welder. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [OT] Linux drivers wanted
Is this like the VW ad, "Drivers wanted?" If so, Whats a Linux? Is in a competitor to the Maybach? I might be interested in driving one! FOS tonight. Sorry Hendrik for hijacking your thread. I just could not resist the "other " meaning for "Drivers Wanted" Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TE problems
Be darned sure you don't overtorque the pan bolts. They only need something like 14 inch-pounds (NOT ft-lbs!) I've seen more tranny pans that are all wacked out of square than I care to recall because some ham-handed idiot was using a 3/8" or 1/2" ratchet to tighten the pan bolts (present company excepted, of course.) The only fix is to replace the pan with a new or known good one or very, very carefully straighten it out yourself. Dan --- Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Interesting. I have already changed the AT fluid > and filter twice in > maybe 5-6000 miles. Last time something is leaking > on the pan so I > was going to drop the pan again, and figgered I may > as well change it again. > > Loren > > > At 09:04 PM 7/19/2007, you wrote: > > > the first time, a couple hours later, the > transmission didn't want to > > > shift out of first. > > > >Chicken wagon did that a few times. After a > fluid/filter > >change that problem is gone. > > > >-- Jim > > > > > >___ > >http://www.okiebenz.com > >For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > Loren Faeth > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300TE problems
Interesting. I have already changed the AT fluid and filter twice in maybe 5-6000 miles. Last time something is leaking on the pan so I was going to drop the pan again, and figgered I may as well change it again. Loren At 09:04 PM 7/19/2007, you wrote: > > the first time, a couple hours later, the transmission didn't want to > > shift out of first. > >Chicken wagon did that a few times. After a fluid/filter >change that problem is gone. > >-- Jim > > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] have my first Armstrong tool
25-250ft-lb torque wrench. Proudly 100% made in the USA. Retails for $225+ http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=300130720143&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=020 When the head to timing chain cover bolts arrive from Rusty, I can confidently install the new head. I don't trust the $10 Harbor Freight torque wrench... -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [OT] Linux drivers wanted
> Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > http://www.pcbsd.org/ > > Had not seen this before. I've always been partial to the BSD flavor > > of unix, which includes [Open|Free|Net] BSD and also, in the > > commercial realm, Mac OS X. Curt wrote: > I've tried it, its okay, nothing special. Harder to get apps > for than Mepis or the other "normal" linux distros. That's 'cause it's _not_ Linux. It's BSD. But it's posix, so most Linux and Unix programs will compile just fine. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT JB Weld repair experiences
I used quick steel to fix a motorcylcle engine case and it never leaked a drop. Met a gent in Alabama with a D9 Cat..Kept blowing head gaskets for some reason or another, I was a teenager and had no clue about a diesel then. He cleaned the hell out of it and applied a layer of JB where the gasket belonged, tightened the bolts and ran it that way for several months when he finnally blew a track and decided to junk it. He took all of the head bolts out and started the engine and it ran that way!! The head actually stayed on the engine even when he revved it up and let it set there and run full throttle for over an hour before it ran out of fuel. The moral of the story; make sure it is clean, clean, clean before applying JB and it will work well. Mike > Yeah, on this bike frame repair, I believe I used regular JB, not the > Kwik stuff. I didn't really get in there and scrape things or prepare > it much though. > > JB Kwik story: Driving my 68 Coronet from MN to MD, I had an > alternator bolt fly out at speed and be thrown by the fan into the > radiator (I didn't use correct spacers). Lost the belt and now had a > leak in rad. and no alternator charging. Pulled over at an all night > truck stop somewhere in KS. > > One of those things that lets me know someone up there is looking out > for me, since I had no AAA, and no cel phone and no extra money. Even > if I could call a tow truck, I could not pay him or anyone else! > > The belt was still present on the vehicle (hanging around water pump?) > and intact. AND the alternator bolt was laying on the cross member. > AND I had with me all my earthly belongings save what I left behind - > which means I had not only my tools but my fastener collection. > > After trying a tube of stop leak from the truck stop, I pulled out the > JB Kwik that I had intentionally bought for emergencies. I applied it > to the area of the hole in the rad. And since it was a cool night, I > pulled the car over by where I found an electrical outlet. I plugged > in my trouble light and placed it right next to the repair to warm it > up. Went to sleep in car - me and my faithful pooch and a couple cans > of beer. > > Not only did I have a trouble-free rest of the trip, but that repair > is still holding some 8 years later! > > Brian > > On 7/22/07, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Did you use JB Weld or JB Kwik? Weld is MUCH stronger but takes longer >> to set. >> Its also alot stronger the closer you get to a 50% mix with the hardner, >> more hardner makes it less strong. >> >> I've made some good repairs with JB over the years but often times it >> takes alot of it... >> In this case did you grind away the old weld material? If you're just >> putting a skim over the top it won't work. You'd also have to rough up >> the existing metal alot. I like to cut slots across the break to give >> the JB Weld something to stick to. >> >> -Curt >> >> Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 19:36:07 -0700 >> From: "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Welding Bicycle CroMoly Frames >> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" >> Message-ID: >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> No, I tried this months ago - maybe a year or so ago. >> >> I'm curious, though, why the JB couldn't handle it. I thought it >> really did a good job of "welding" metal. Perhaps there is just too >> much stress on a relatively small repaired area? >> >> Brian >> >> >> - >> Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! >> TV. >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mystery wheel
I don't think it's from the type III Sonnett - might be from an earlier one though. On 7/22/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm thinking maybe from a Saab Sonnet. > > Mike > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > >> Looks like maybe an old SAAB wheel.. > > > > As soon as I read 15" 4 bolt I was thinking Saab 99/900, but > > I don't recognize that wheel. I can guarantee it's not Saab > > from the 1970's, but I guess newer is possible. Maybe a spare? > > VW Beetle also used narrow 15" with four lugs IIRC. > > > > Mitch. > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics." -Benjamin Disraeli '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [OT] Linux drivers wanted
I've tried it, its okay, nothing special. Harder to get apps for than Mepis or the other "normal" linux distros. I saw no great advantages. -Curt Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 11:00:00 -0400 From: Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT] Linux drivers wanted To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Go to http://www.distrowatch.com/ to see what's popular and read > mini-reviews. http://www.pcbsd.org/ Had not seen this before. I've always been partial to the BSD flavor of unix, which includes [Open|Free|Net] BSD and also, in the commercial realm, Mac OS X. These folks seem to have undertaken the task of making a "user-friendly" desktop oriented BSD distribution, and based on what I read they are doing rather well (though the distribution is still in BETA status). Might have to check it out. I'll probably wait for it to get out of BETA though. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 - Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT JB Weld repair experiences
Yeah, on this bike frame repair, I believe I used regular JB, not the Kwik stuff. I didn't really get in there and scrape things or prepare it much though. JB Kwik story: Driving my 68 Coronet from MN to MD, I had an alternator bolt fly out at speed and be thrown by the fan into the radiator (I didn't use correct spacers). Lost the belt and now had a leak in rad. and no alternator charging. Pulled over at an all night truck stop somewhere in KS. One of those things that lets me know someone up there is looking out for me, since I had no AAA, and no cel phone and no extra money. Even if I could call a tow truck, I could not pay him or anyone else! The belt was still present on the vehicle (hanging around water pump?) and intact. AND the alternator bolt was laying on the cross member. AND I had with me all my earthly belongings save what I left behind - which means I had not only my tools but my fastener collection. After trying a tube of stop leak from the truck stop, I pulled out the JB Kwik that I had intentionally bought for emergencies. I applied it to the area of the hole in the rad. And since it was a cool night, I pulled the car over by where I found an electrical outlet. I plugged in my trouble light and placed it right next to the repair to warm it up. Went to sleep in car - me and my faithful pooch and a couple cans of beer. Not only did I have a trouble-free rest of the trip, but that repair is still holding some 8 years later! Brian On 7/22/07, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Did you use JB Weld or JB Kwik? Weld is MUCH stronger but takes longer to set. > Its also alot stronger the closer you get to a 50% mix with the hardner, more > hardner makes it less strong. > > I've made some good repairs with JB over the years but often times it takes > alot of it... > In this case did you grind away the old weld material? If you're just putting > a skim over the top it won't work. You'd also have to rough up the existing > metal alot. I like to cut slots across the break to give the JB Weld > something to stick to. > > -Curt > > Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 19:36:07 -0700 > From: "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Welding Bicycle CroMoly Frames > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > No, I tried this months ago - maybe a year or so ago. > > I'm curious, though, why the JB couldn't handle it. I thought it > really did a good job of "welding" metal. Perhaps there is just too > much stress on a relatively small repaired area? > > Brian > > > - > Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Welding Bicycle CroMoly Frames
That's good news. Brian On 7/22/07, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > AFAIK and I admittedly don't TIG weld, welding 4130 with TIG is the same as > welding mild steel, same welder and filler, no special rod required. > The only time you need special rod is if you're arc welding 4130. > > -Curt > > Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 18:15:01 -0700 > From: "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Welding Bicycle CroMoly Frames > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hey, I would tool on down there with my ol' bike in trunk of 240D and > take you up on your offer if you're game. Name the time. > > I could try to get the type of rod that was mentioned earlier in this > thread (I'll have to go back and re-read). > > Brian > > On 7/21/07, Zach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I am in Olympia and I have a TIG welder if you want me to give it a > > shot. There is also stevenson bikes downtown who is a custom frame > > builder, he would probably charge you though whereas I will not. > > > > -Zach > > > - > Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of > spyware protection. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anti-sieze on wheel lug threads (was: [OT] tool quality.)
Tom, Thanks, that's a lot of GREAT info and I'll be sure to bookmark the link too. One of my engineering friends who also vintage races old cars had a really good book, just on bolts, fasteners etc. Went into detail about how a lug bolt is designed to have some "bend" so as to cushion the shock or hitting curbs, or in the vent of a crash, less likely that the whole wheel will snap off. I can't get him to part with that book though!! :-) Again, thanks for the info Tom Regards, Ed 300E...which is about to get waxed today. :-) On 22/07/07, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ed, > > Fasteners have a dry torque setting and a wet (lubricated) torque setting. > > When you tighten any fastener to a specific torque, you are really > pre-tenseling the bolt shaft - it stretches & acts like a spring and the > spring tension keeps everything locked together. This is why you can cut > off > the head of a rounded off bolt then you can easily unscrew the threaded > shaft. That is unless the bolt is locked in with corrosion, which is a > completely different issue. > > Some fasteners, like head bolts, have a maximum stretch because the > manufacturers understand that the bolts can loose their tensile strength > if > stretched too far. This is why Mercedes instructs you to measure the > fastener length before reusing them. Fasteners like head bolts are spec'd > wet (lightly oiled) because lubricated torque is more repeatable. > > Wet torque settings are lower than dry torque settings because the > lubricant > helps to overcome the thread friction and you need less torque to reach > the > proper pre-tenseling of the bolt shaft. In other words, a fastener that > has > a 85 pound feet dry torque spec may only have a 75 pound feet wet torque > spec. > > > The following web site does a better job of explaining torque specs than I > can. Look up a 1/2-20 bolt in the chart then look across to the 5 column > (SAE 5). You'll note that the dry torque is 90 pound feet while the wet > torque is only 65 pound feet. The same fastener in SAE 8 is spec'd at 120 > dry / 90 wet. > > There is also a de-rating chart on the bottom - Anti-sieze is not on the > chart & I don't know how much it de-rates the torque setting. > > They also mention that a bolt that has been over tightened can be as > lethal > as one that has not been tightened enough. Why? Because you can weaken the > bolt enough to make it shear off or make the threads fail. > > http://www.raskcycle.com/techtip/webdoc14.html > > > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > www.kegkits.com > 256-656-1924 > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of E M > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 9:11 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anti-sieze on wheel lug threads (was: [OT] tool > quality.) > > Many say not to use it, but I always use a little. When I took the first > wheel on my benz, you could feel and unever drag on the threads, as you > often do with dry lugs. More than the treads, I like a little on the bell > of the bolt, where it meets the rim. A little goes a long way, as you get > near the end of the threads and the bell starts to seat, and drags, I > don't > know how you get a really accurate torque without a little AS. That's > what > I do anyway, and I haven't worped a rotor or lost a wheel yet. :-) > > ps. I think the "official" word is do them dry as many have told me. > > Ed > 300E > > On 22/07/07, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I used a bit of parafin on the threads last time, per Dr. Booth's > > recommendatian. > > > > "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > Anti-size acts as a lubricant & actually lets you over torque your > > > lug nuts/bolts. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Tom Hargrave > > > www.kegkits.com > > > 256-656-1924 > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > On Behalf Of LWB250 > > > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 8:14 AM > > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT] tool quality. > > > > > > Pretty much. They flex above a certain torque value. > > > > > > It's good that they are using them, however, all cars don't have the > > > same lug nut/bolt torque. > > > > > > As soon as I get home from a tire replacement or wheel removal, I > > > bust 'em all loose and retorque them to spec myself. I also use > > > anti-seize on the threads (don't EVER get it on the shoulders of the > > > nuts/bolts!) > > > > -- > > 1983 300D > > 1966 230 > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used
Re: [MBZ] [OT] Close Calls -- WAS -- tool quality.
Lock-out Tag-out! ALWAYS test -- saves lives! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [OT] Close Calls -- WAS -- tool quality.
I was called in to do a forensic analysis of an 800A 480V 3 phase automatic transfer switch that an electrician had dropped an adjustable wrench in - live. The wrench fell into the switch, landed across 2 of the mains lugs, vaporized, the slag blowing back up into the mechanism, shorting across the remaining lug on the load side, causing an explosion of such force that the major components of the ATS literally blew out of the cabinet - on top of the electrician. He had 2nd and 3rd degree burns on his face, shoulders and torso. I saw the pictures. Yuck. He was lucky he lived. Then again, maybe not. I'm sure he was permanently disfigured and spent a lot of days in severe pain being treated. Ouch. Dan (20 years in the medium & low voltage electrical industry and still checking conductors with a wiggy before touching) --- Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My uncle used to be a DC crane repairman at > Bethlehem Steel (Lackawanna, > NY). These are the cranes that reach out into the > yard & pick up 100's of > tons of steel at a time. Part of their safety > procedure was to wrap a steel > chain around the track to short out the buss bars > because one of the > repairmen was out on a crane one day when someone > turned on the power and > "poof", he was gone in a cloud of smoke. > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > www.kegkits.com > 256-656-1924 > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of LarryT > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 10:48 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT] Close Calls -- WAS -- tool > quality. > > Like ya'll, I had a similar thing happen - > forgive if anyone has heard > this story - I was a electricians apprentice working > on the USS JFK - in a > small space with a 440V cabinet with 4 big cables > sticking out that had been > > cut off. The procedure was to tape the cut ends but > it had not been done. > I was playing with my screwdriver waiting for my > electrician to need me to > do somethingg - I happened to touch a cable end with > the s'driver and > KaBoom! The end of the 4" s'driver disappeared in a > flash of light and > noise - with bits of molten metal going down my boot > top. Thankfully that > was the worst of my injuries. There were Navy > personnel onboard who may > have turned the power on disregarding the warning > tags that covered the cab. > > I found a new career path to follow soon afterward - > ;-) > > > Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) > www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts > Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil > PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net > Weber Carb Info > http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs > . > > - Original Message - > From: "E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > > Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 9:29 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT] tool quality. > > > >I did something similar a few weeks ago. I broke > the golden rule: never > > trust the guy throwing the switch, check it > yourself!! I had insulation > > on > > the cutters, but blew a nice hole in them, and > everyone was impressed with > > the light and sound show. hee hee. The hair on my > arm has almost grown > > back. :-) > > > > Ed > > 300E > > > > On 21/07/07, Rich Thomas > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> I have my Craftsman vice grips I was using some > years ago to remove an > >> electric wire from a meter box. I thought the > wire was dead (it SHOULD > >> have been if it had been wired properly). I > grabbed it and gave it a > >> pull when it bit through the insulation and > grounded out on the box, > >> removing about half of one jaw in a brilliant > flash of insight with > >> accompanying soundtrack. I keep it and use it as > is to remind myself of > >> what stupidity can do. > >> > >> --R > >> > >> Craig McCluskey wrote: > >> > On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 14:11:23 -0700 (PDT) LWB250 > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> >> When I was in trade school too many years ago, > a lot > >> >> of my starving student buddies used to troll > the local > >> >> swap meets and garage sales for broken > Craftsman tools > >> >> that they would then take to Sears for > replacements. > >> >> > >> > > >> > When I was in college, a friend needed to > loosen an extremely tight > >> screw > >> > on a circuit breaker. He got a very large > Craftsman flat-blade > >> screwdriver > >> > and a crescent wrench and went at it. The > square shank on the > >> screwdriver > >> > accepted the crescent wrench very well (that's > why they make them > >> square, > >> > isn't it?), but the blade shattered near the > bottom. > >> > > >> > He went to Sears to get a replacement. The > clerk asked him > >> incredulously, > >> > "You did THAT?!" His reply, "Yeah, want to see > me do it again?" > >> > > >> > > >> > Craig > >> > > >> > ___ > >> > http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > For new parts see official list sponsor: >
Re: [MBZ] [OT] Close Calls -- WAS -- tool quality.
My uncle used to be a DC crane repairman at Bethlehem Steel (Lackawanna, NY). These are the cranes that reach out into the yard & pick up 100's of tons of steel at a time. Part of their safety procedure was to wrap a steel chain around the track to short out the buss bars because one of the repairmen was out on a crane one day when someone turned on the power and "poof", he was gone in a cloud of smoke. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LarryT Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 10:48 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT] Close Calls -- WAS -- tool quality. Like ya'll, I had a similar thing happen - forgive if anyone has heard this story - I was a electricians apprentice working on the USS JFK - in a small space with a 440V cabinet with 4 big cables sticking out that had been cut off. The procedure was to tape the cut ends but it had not been done. I was playing with my screwdriver waiting for my electrician to need me to do somethingg - I happened to touch a cable end with the s'driver and KaBoom! The end of the 4" s'driver disappeared in a flash of light and noise - with bits of molten metal going down my boot top. Thankfully that was the worst of my injuries. There were Navy personnel onboard who may have turned the power on disregarding the warning tags that covered the cab. I found a new career path to follow soon afterward - ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: "E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT] tool quality. >I did something similar a few weeks ago. I broke the golden rule: never > trust the guy throwing the switch, check it yourself!! I had insulation > on > the cutters, but blew a nice hole in them, and everyone was impressed with > the light and sound show. hee hee. The hair on my arm has almost grown > back. :-) > > Ed > 300E > > On 21/07/07, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I have my Craftsman vice grips I was using some years ago to remove an >> electric wire from a meter box. I thought the wire was dead (it SHOULD >> have been if it had been wired properly). I grabbed it and gave it a >> pull when it bit through the insulation and grounded out on the box, >> removing about half of one jaw in a brilliant flash of insight with >> accompanying soundtrack. I keep it and use it as is to remind myself of >> what stupidity can do. >> >> --R >> >> Craig McCluskey wrote: >> > On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 14:11:23 -0700 (PDT) LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> > >> > >> >> When I was in trade school too many years ago, a lot >> >> of my starving student buddies used to troll the local >> >> swap meets and garage sales for broken Craftsman tools >> >> that they would then take to Sears for replacements. >> >> >> > >> > When I was in college, a friend needed to loosen an extremely tight >> screw >> > on a circuit breaker. He got a very large Craftsman flat-blade >> screwdriver >> > and a crescent wrench and went at it. The square shank on the >> screwdriver >> > accepted the crescent wrench very well (that's why they make them >> square, >> > isn't it?), but the blade shattered near the bottom. >> > >> > He went to Sears to get a replacement. The clerk asked him >> incredulously, >> > "You did THAT?!" His reply, "Yeah, want to see me do it again?" >> > >> > >> > Craig >> > >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> > >> > >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.11/909 - Release Date: 7/20/2007 > 4:39 PM > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or
Re: [MBZ] Anti-sieze on wheel lug threads (was: [OT] tool quality.)
Ed, Fasteners have a dry torque setting and a wet (lubricated) torque setting. When you tighten any fastener to a specific torque, you are really pre-tenseling the bolt shaft - it stretches & acts like a spring and the spring tension keeps everything locked together. This is why you can cut off the head of a rounded off bolt then you can easily unscrew the threaded shaft. That is unless the bolt is locked in with corrosion, which is a completely different issue. Some fasteners, like head bolts, have a maximum stretch because the manufacturers understand that the bolts can loose their tensile strength if stretched too far. This is why Mercedes instructs you to measure the fastener length before reusing them. Fasteners like head bolts are spec'd wet (lightly oiled) because lubricated torque is more repeatable. Wet torque settings are lower than dry torque settings because the lubricant helps to overcome the thread friction and you need less torque to reach the proper pre-tenseling of the bolt shaft. In other words, a fastener that has a 85 pound feet dry torque spec may only have a 75 pound feet wet torque spec. The following web site does a better job of explaining torque specs than I can. Look up a 1/2-20 bolt in the chart then look across to the 5 column (SAE 5). You'll note that the dry torque is 90 pound feet while the wet torque is only 65 pound feet. The same fastener in SAE 8 is spec'd at 120 dry / 90 wet. There is also a de-rating chart on the bottom - Anti-sieze is not on the chart & I don't know how much it de-rates the torque setting. They also mention that a bolt that has been over tightened can be as lethal as one that has not been tightened enough. Why? Because you can weaken the bolt enough to make it shear off or make the threads fail. http://www.raskcycle.com/techtip/webdoc14.html Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of E M Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 9:11 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anti-sieze on wheel lug threads (was: [OT] tool quality.) Many say not to use it, but I always use a little. When I took the first wheel on my benz, you could feel and unever drag on the threads, as you often do with dry lugs. More than the treads, I like a little on the bell of the bolt, where it meets the rim. A little goes a long way, as you get near the end of the threads and the bell starts to seat, and drags, I don't know how you get a really accurate torque without a little AS. That's what I do anyway, and I haven't worped a rotor or lost a wheel yet. :-) ps. I think the "official" word is do them dry as many have told me. Ed 300E On 22/07/07, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I used a bit of parafin on the threads last time, per Dr. Booth's > recommendatian. > > "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Anti-size acts as a lubricant & actually lets you over torque your > > lug nuts/bolts. > > > > Thanks, > > Tom Hargrave > > www.kegkits.com > > 256-656-1924 > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Behalf Of LWB250 > > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 8:14 AM > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT] tool quality. > > > > Pretty much. They flex above a certain torque value. > > > > It's good that they are using them, however, all cars don't have the > > same lug nut/bolt torque. > > > > As soon as I get home from a tire replacement or wheel removal, I > > bust 'em all loose and retorque them to spec myself. I also use > > anti-seize on the threads (don't EVER get it on the shoulders of the > > nuts/bolts!) > > -- > 1983 300D > 1966 230 > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [OT] Close Calls -- WAS -- tool quality.
Like ya'll, I had a similar thing happen - forgive if anyone has heard this story - I was a electricians apprentice working on the USS JFK - in a small space with a 440V cabinet with 4 big cables sticking out that had been cut off. The procedure was to tape the cut ends but it had not been done. I was playing with my screwdriver waiting for my electrician to need me to do somethingg - I happened to touch a cable end with the s'driver and KaBoom! The end of the 4" s'driver disappeared in a flash of light and noise - with bits of molten metal going down my boot top. Thankfully that was the worst of my injuries. There were Navy personnel onboard who may have turned the power on disregarding the warning tags that covered the cab. I found a new career path to follow soon afterward - ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: "E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT] tool quality. >I did something similar a few weeks ago. I broke the golden rule: never > trust the guy throwing the switch, check it yourself!! I had insulation > on > the cutters, but blew a nice hole in them, and everyone was impressed with > the light and sound show. hee hee. The hair on my arm has almost grown > back. :-) > > Ed > 300E > > On 21/07/07, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I have my Craftsman vice grips I was using some years ago to remove an >> electric wire from a meter box. I thought the wire was dead (it SHOULD >> have been if it had been wired properly). I grabbed it and gave it a >> pull when it bit through the insulation and grounded out on the box, >> removing about half of one jaw in a brilliant flash of insight with >> accompanying soundtrack. I keep it and use it as is to remind myself of >> what stupidity can do. >> >> --R >> >> Craig McCluskey wrote: >> > On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 14:11:23 -0700 (PDT) LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> > >> > >> >> When I was in trade school too many years ago, a lot >> >> of my starving student buddies used to troll the local >> >> swap meets and garage sales for broken Craftsman tools >> >> that they would then take to Sears for replacements. >> >> >> > >> > When I was in college, a friend needed to loosen an extremely tight >> screw >> > on a circuit breaker. He got a very large Craftsman flat-blade >> screwdriver >> > and a crescent wrench and went at it. The square shank on the >> screwdriver >> > accepted the crescent wrench very well (that's why they make them >> square, >> > isn't it?), but the blade shattered near the bottom. >> > >> > He went to Sears to get a replacement. The clerk asked him >> incredulously, >> > "You did THAT?!" His reply, "Yeah, want to see me do it again?" >> > >> > >> > Craig >> > >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> > >> > >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.11/909 - Release Date: 7/20/2007 > 4:39 PM > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: PC-BSD (was: [OT] Linux drivers wanted)
Whoops looks like I misread that -- it's their 1.4 release that's in Beta, the prior release (1.3) is stable. http://www.pcbsd.org/index.php?p=learnhome Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > http://www.pcbsd.org/ > > Had not seen this before. I've always been partial to the BSD > flavor of unix, which includes [Open|Free|Net] BSD and also, in the > commercial realm, Mac OS X. > > These folks seem to have undertaken the task of making a > "user-friendly" desktop oriented BSD distribution, and based on what > I read they are doing rather well (though the distribution is still > in BETA status). > > Might have to check it out. I'll probably wait for it to get out of > BETA though. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [OT] Linux drivers wanted
Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Go to http://www.distrowatch.com/ to see what's popular and read > mini-reviews. http://www.pcbsd.org/ Had not seen this before. I've always been partial to the BSD flavor of unix, which includes [Open|Free|Net] BSD and also, in the commercial realm, Mac OS X. These folks seem to have undertaken the task of making a "user-friendly" desktop oriented BSD distribution, and based on what I read they are doing rather well (though the distribution is still in BETA status). Might have to check it out. I'll probably wait for it to get out of BETA though. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lug bolt removal
"E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > We better change the title of the tread. You guys are talking about > over torquing lug nuts, and then go on about using impact wrenches > and mallets!! ha ha ha Come on guys, eat your Wheaties, it's only > 80 lbs/f or so. hee hee. I have an air gun, 1/2" drive, and it's really not that strong. I use it to remove the lugs for tire rotations, and sometimes it will not break the lug loose, yet when I put the breaker bar on it it comes loose without too much effort -- certainly I've never needed to jump on the handle or get out the mallets. Maybe it's just not that great a gun, I got it in one of those air tool sets on sale at Wal-Mart or someplace like that. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lug bolt removal
We better change the title of the tread. You guys are talking about over torquing lug nuts, and then go on about using impact wrenches and mallets!! ha ha ha Come on guys, eat your Wheaties, it's only 80 lbs/f or so. hee hee. Ed the He-man :-) 300E On 22/07/07, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I've got a Craftsman 19.2v drill set and as soon as funds allow I'm going > to supliment it with an impact wrench. > A friend has a 12v Snap-on impact wrench thats terrific just almost as > powerful as a good air impact. With luck the 19.2v Craftsman will as > impressive. > > -Curt > > Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 21:47:42 -0400 > From: "LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] lug bolt removal > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Don't have any personal experience, but previous discussions on other > lists > have had several people talking about these 12v impact wrenches. > here's > one: > http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=92349 > not as cumbersome as an X-Wrench and I'm told the torque is impressive. > The > ad says 150 #'s. > > YMMV > > Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) > www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts > Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil > PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net > Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs > > > - > Building a website is a piece of cake. > Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [OT] tool quality.
I think there's something to that!! Their lawyers would rather have you driving around with a worped rotor than to lose a wheel. hee hee And many subscribe to the thought, that if one extra turn is good, two is better. :-) Ed 300E On 22/07/07, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Probably they've been sued a few times for leaving the lugs loose. So > getting the wrench to click proves that they are at least at a minimum > torque, probably a lot more. > > Once they get sued a few times for bending wheels by over/incorrect > tightening, they might take the time to do it right. > > The tire shop I go to does hand-tighten the lugs. They only use the > air gun to speed up removal. > > Allan > > "Alex Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On 7/21/07, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I've watched in several clueless Walmarts and they tighten to a > >> rattle with the air gun, lower the car > to the ground, and then > >> "check" with the torque wrench. > > > > That drives me up the wall. They make such a big show out of going > > around the car and clicking the torque wrench on each bolt as if it > > actually did something! Aargh. > > > > Alex > > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For > > new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For > > used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > -- > 1983 300D > 1966 230 > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [OT] tool quality.
The porsche goes away in the winter and I haven't had the benz a year yet, but I suspect the benz will get it's winter changes that way. I wouldn't find the right "sucker" for it, so I just did it the last twice from the bottem. It really takes no time to do it from the bottom of the benz and there's even an opening in the undertray to allow easy access to the bolt. Ed 300E On 22/07/07, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > E M wrote: > > I'm on my back in a foot of snow at times, changing the oil before > > I'll take a car in now! > > That's the Porsche, not the Benz, right? > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anti-sieze on wheel lug threads (was: [OT] tool quality.)
Many say not to use it, but I always use a little. When I took the first wheel on my benz, you could feel and unever drag on the threads, as you often do with dry lugs. More than the treads, I like a little on the bell of the bolt, where it meets the rim. A little goes a long way, as you get near the end of the threads and the bell starts to seat, and drags, I don't know how you get a really accurate torque without a little AS. That's what I do anyway, and I haven't worped a rotor or lost a wheel yet. :-) ps. I think the "official" word is do them dry as many have told me. Ed 300E On 22/07/07, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I used a bit of parafin on the threads last time, per Dr. Booth's > recommendatian. > > "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Anti-size acts as a lubricant & actually lets you over torque your > > lug nuts/bolts. > > > > Thanks, > > Tom Hargrave > > www.kegkits.com > > 256-656-1924 > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Behalf Of LWB250 > > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 8:14 AM > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT] tool quality. > > > > Pretty much. They flex above a certain torque value. > > > > It's good that they are using them, however, all cars don't have the > > same lug nut/bolt torque. > > > > As soon as I get home from a tire replacement or wheel removal, I > > bust 'em all loose and retorque them to spec myself. I also use > > anti-seize on the threads (don't EVER get it on the shoulders of the > > nuts/bolts!) > > -- > 1983 300D > 1966 230 > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mystery wheel
I'm thinking maybe from a Saab Sonnet. Mike > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> Looks like maybe an old SAAB wheel.. > > As soon as I read 15" 4 bolt I was thinking Saab 99/900, but > I don't recognize that wheel. I can guarantee it's not Saab > from the 1970's, but I guess newer is possible. Maybe a spare? > VW Beetle also used narrow 15" with four lugs IIRC. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Anti-sieze on wheel lug threads (was: [OT] tool quality.)
I used a bit of parafin on the threads last time, per Dr. Booth's recommendatian. "Tom Hargrave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Anti-size acts as a lubricant & actually lets you over torque your > lug nuts/bolts. > > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > www.kegkits.com > 256-656-1924 > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of LWB250 > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 8:14 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT] tool quality. > > Pretty much. They flex above a certain torque value. > > It's good that they are using them, however, all cars don't have the > same lug nut/bolt torque. > > As soon as I get home from a tire replacement or wheel removal, I > bust 'em all loose and retorque them to spec myself. I also use > anti-seize on the threads (don't EVER get it on the shoulders of the > nuts/bolts!) -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Welding Bicycle CroMoly Frames
When I was in the generator business I had a rule: If I find JB Weld on your truck, you're fired. Granted, it was a liability thing, considering the nature of the equipment we serviced. That being said, a few years ago I had a pump housing on a spa pump that had become porous due to cavitation wearing out the inside. I went to WallyWorld and bought the infamous two tubes of JB Weld. Nearly 6 years later, it's still holding up. Amazing stuff. Dan --- Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Did you use JB Weld or JB Kwik? Weld is MUCH > stronger but takes longer to set. > Its also alot stronger the closer you get to a 50% > mix with the hardner, more hardner makes it less > strong. > > I've made some good repairs with JB over the years > but often times it takes alot of it... > In this case did you grind away the old weld > material? If you're just putting a skim over the top > it won't work. You'd also have to rough up the > existing metal alot. I like to cut slots across the > break to give the JB Weld something to stick to. > > -Curt > > Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 19:36:07 -0700 > From: "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Welding Bicycle CroMoly Frames > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > > Message-ID: > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; > format=flowed > > No, I tried this months ago - maybe a year or so > ago. > > I'm curious, though, why the JB couldn't handle it. > I thought it > really did a good job of "welding" metal. Perhaps > there is just too > much stress on a relatively small repaired area? > > Brian > > > - > Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's > top picks on Yahoo! TV. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [OT] tool quality.
Anti-size acts as a lubricant & actually lets you over torque your lug nuts/bolts. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 8:14 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT] tool quality. Pretty much. They flex above a certain torque value. It's good that they are using them, however, all cars don't have the same lug nut/bolt torque. As soon as I get home from a tire replacement or wheel removal, I bust 'em all loose and retorque them to spec myself. I also use anti-seize on the threads (don't EVER get it on the shoulders of the nuts/bolts!) Dan --- Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How do those things work? I see them in a set with > diff colors, diff > torques I guess. Do they start to wind up or > something at the set torque? > > --R > > LWB250 wrote: > > Most of the tire places I've seen these days > appear to > > use the torque limiting extensions on their rattle > > guns. > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm going insane
Sunil, You're the doctor-diagnose yourself and then the rest of us will also have diagnosis as well. Could be useful, e.g. "My doctor says I have to buy antoher MB diesel in order to be well." Good luck on the TD. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sunil Hari Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 4:25 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] i'm going insane Just sold my 92 300D to John Robbins - he drove up from Mississippi overnight, took a drive and loved it, paid, and left. Now of course, I'm looking for my next MB. Guy I know has a 87 300TD with 200Kmi - gold with palomino Tex interior, just had a major service done, has a 3rd row seat - seems like a winner. I'm taking a test drive later. He wants $4500 for it, but that may be flexible. Two questions: 1) What is wrong with me? 2) If I don't buy this car, is anyone else interested? -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [OT] Linux drivers wanted
If you can install XP, you can install all but the most arcane linux distros. It's been a few years since I last set up a Debian box, but at that time their install process was not as seamless as RedHat of the same era. Most of the mainstream distros now have GUI installers with sane defaults. Go to http://www.distrowatch.com/ to see what's popular and read mini-reviews. "Hendrik Riessen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I was going to say something about penguins but this is a family list. > Anyway I had a gutfull of the Micro$oft stuff ( I seem to spending half my > time on the computer trying to stop adware/malware/viruses and God knows > what else from taking over my box), I tried all the scanners and installed > the you beaut Billy Gates anti virus software (which has a 90 day free trial > and then you cough up cash because of their inability to build a good OS) > but crap still comes through. > So basically I have to give the computer a complete reboot to clean > everything but am sick of having to keep installing a mutitude of programs > just to keep XP running. > So I am seriously thinking of challenging myself to learn how to install/use > a linux OS, at the moment I am looking at Debian http://www.debian.org/ > because it is free free, unlike some other UNIX based stuff. However Debian > is a huge download (22 cd's worth) but that is a truckload of programs, most > of which I will probably never even use or know what they are for. > However I did install openoffice and while it is a bit slower than office97, > it has a pooload more buttons to push and should kick bottom running on an > open OS. > Anyone with experience wanna give me some advice. > And to all the fruit lovers, not even thinking about biting into a Apple > because I have a recently upgraded intel box with a crappy OS sitting right > next to me and until Jobsy builds a OS to run on that I am not going to the > fruit and veg market. > > Thanking you in advance, > > Hendrik (I signed just in case Marshall keeps a Penguin or two) > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Welding Bicycle CroMoly Frames
Did you use JB Weld or JB Kwik? Weld is MUCH stronger but takes longer to set. Its also alot stronger the closer you get to a 50% mix with the hardner, more hardner makes it less strong. I've made some good repairs with JB over the years but often times it takes alot of it... In this case did you grind away the old weld material? If you're just putting a skim over the top it won't work. You'd also have to rough up the existing metal alot. I like to cut slots across the break to give the JB Weld something to stick to. -Curt Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 19:36:07 -0700 From: "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Welding Bicycle CroMoly Frames To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed No, I tried this months ago - maybe a year or so ago. I'm curious, though, why the JB couldn't handle it. I thought it really did a good job of "welding" metal. Perhaps there is just too much stress on a relatively small repaired area? Brian - Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [OT] tool quality.
Probably they've been sued a few times for leaving the lugs loose. So getting the wrench to click proves that they are at least at a minimum torque, probably a lot more. Once they get sued a few times for bending wheels by over/incorrect tightening, they might take the time to do it right. The tire shop I go to does hand-tighten the lugs. They only use the air gun to speed up removal. Allan "Alex Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 7/21/07, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I've watched in several clueless Walmarts and they tighten to a >> rattle with the air gun, lower the car > to the ground, and then >> "check" with the torque wrench. > > That drives me up the wall. They make such a big show out of going > around the car and clicking the torque wrench on each bolt as if it > actually did something! Aargh. > > Alex > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For > new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For > used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lug bolt removal
I've got a Craftsman 19.2v drill set and as soon as funds allow I'm going to supliment it with an impact wrench. A friend has a 12v Snap-on impact wrench thats terrific just almost as powerful as a good air impact. With luck the 19.2v Craftsman will as impressive. -Curt Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 21:47:42 -0400 From: "LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] lug bolt removal To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Don't have any personal experience, but previous discussions on other lists have had several people talking about these 12v impact wrenches. here's one: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=92349 not as cumbersome as an X-Wrench and I'm told the torque is impressive. The ad says 150 #'s. YMMV Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [OT] tool quality.
Pretty much. They flex above a certain torque value. It's good that they are using them, however, all cars don't have the same lug nut/bolt torque. As soon as I get home from a tire replacement or wheel removal, I bust 'em all loose and retorque them to spec myself. I also use anti-seize on the threads (don't EVER get it on the shoulders of the nuts/bolts!) Dan --- Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How do those things work? I see them in a set with > diff colors, diff > torques I guess. Do they start to wind up or > something at the set torque? > > --R > > LWB250 wrote: > > Most of the tire places I've seen these days > appear to > > use the torque limiting extensions on their rattle > > guns. > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Welding Bicycle CroMoly Frames
AFAIK and I admittedly don't TIG weld, welding 4130 with TIG is the same as welding mild steel, same welder and filler, no special rod required. The only time you need special rod is if you're arc welding 4130. -Curt Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 18:15:01 -0700 From: "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Welding Bicycle CroMoly Frames To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hey, I would tool on down there with my ol' bike in trunk of 240D and take you up on your offer if you're game. Name the time. I could try to get the type of rod that was mentioned earlier in this thread (I'll have to go back and re-read). Brian On 7/21/07, Zach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am in Olympia and I have a TIG welder if you want me to give it a > shot. There is also stevenson bikes downtown who is a custom frame > builder, he would probably charge you though whereas I will not. > > -Zach - Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lug bolt removal
> I have deep sockets, 3/4" drive tools, impact wrench - and the > best tool I've found for removing lugs is... >the (silly) factory lug wrench and a $5 rubber mallet. I also. Every time, I go to the trunk of the 250C to get its (crank-shaped) factory wrench. That and the mallet. I wish I had more of those factory wrenches, the new ones from the factory only have a single bend in them. And by 'new' I mean anything less than 30-odd years old! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [OT] tool quality.
E M wrote: > I'm on my back in a foot of snow at times, changing the oil before > I'll take a car in now! That's the Porsche, not the Benz, right? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [OT] Linux drivers wanted
Hendrik, You can save yourself some aggravation by doing a few things. First get Avast antivirus. It's FREE and is constantly updated! http://www.avast.com/eng/download-avast-home.html You need to register to get a key but that's it! No hassles no bull. Also get Kerio Personal Firewall if you're on anything but a dialup or if there's no firewall built into your router: http://filehippo.com/download_kerio_personal_firewall/?468 And, hopefully, you're using Firefox not Internet Explorer. If not, go here: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/ These should solve all your problems. Jeff Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [OT] Linux drivers wanted
It seems than at Sat, 21 Jul 2007 22:34:17 -0500, Wonko wrote: > If you want easy, send me your mailing address (off-list) and I will send > you a couple of CDs. Mepis and Ubuntu install as no-brainers. ... And each > has one CD, not 22. Fine if your choice in software matches the distro maintainers... > Both will let you keep your Windoze install and let you dual-boot. > Automatically. There are some that don't??? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [OT] Linux drivers wanted
It seems than at Sun, 22 Jul 2007 12:38:55 +0930, Hendrik wrote: > I was going to say something about penguins but this is a family list. There is a Linux list for us weirdos... Linux Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > So I am seriously thinking of challenging myself to learn how to install/use > a linux OS, at the moment I am looking at Debian http://www.debian.org/ > because it is free free, unlike some other UNIX based stuff. However Debian > is a huge download (22 cd's worth) but that is a truckload of programs, most > of which I will probably never even use or know what they are for. You don't need to download them all. They are arranged in decreasing order of popularity. For many years I have manage quite well with 3 or 5 disks. If a program wasn't on those, it's easy to download only the program needed. "Apt" is pretty handy!! > However I did install openoffice and while it is a bit slower than office97, > it has a pooload more buttons to push and should kick bottom running on an > open OS. It's pretty good. I have had no issues with compatibly with Microsoft. Even with my advanced spreadsheets. Oh, correction. I couple years ago I opened a PowerPoint and the background gradient was backwards in OpenOffice. But that may have been fixed. > Anyone with experience wanna give me some advice. Debian is a solid distro - but it may not be the easiest to install or have the latest software, etc. I have been using it for lots of years partly 'cause it is practically identical to administer on my i386 and my PowerPC machines. Handy! Otherwise, sign up for the Linux list and ask away!! -- Philip, and his flock of penguins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Bicycle frames on sale?
You have given the definition of wife. And the definition of husband? One who bears all complaints and is in trouble if his response is not adequate. Brian believer in equal rights Rich wrote: she has no mercy or pity on me for any other medical issues, aches, pains, broken things, or general, specific, or vague complaints ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] lug bolt removal
It seems than at Sat, 21 Jul 2007 16:45:25 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > < > break 'em unless you've got a 3/4" ratchet...The right tool is a lug wrench > > thats > > shaped like a crank.>> > > > Truth be told, the best tool (open your wallet) for lug bolt removal is a > 1/2" 17mm six point deep socket, a six inch extension and a 14" swivel bar. > The > deep socket sits on the bolt shoulder and using this you will never twist off > a > frozen lug bolt. I wouldn't consider using that silly factory lug wrench and > an x-wrench is too big to carry in the car. I have deep sockets, 3/4" drive tools, impact wrench - and the best tool I've found for removing lugs is... the (silly) factory lug wrench and a $5 rubber mallet. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [OT] Linux drivers wanted
Didn't know that or wasn't paying attention, anyway I applied for a sub but Kaleb will probably turn me down because I am such a crap stirrer. I'll ask over there for opinions but thank you to everyone who has replied thus far. - Original Message - From: "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] [OT] Linux drivers wanted > You'd hardly suspect it, based on all the OT OS talk here, but we have > a dedicated Linux list, > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/linux_okiebenz.com, with most of > the regulars from here who care about Linux --- This question would be > ON Topic there! > Last I heard, Ubuntu was the flavor of the week > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
