Re: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)

2008-01-31 Thread Kevin Kraly
a nice place in Vancouver called Smokey's, don't know if
it's still there or if it's any good.

It's still there.  We went there with my sister-in-law, a Smokey's girl, 
over a year ago, and she didn't think it was as good as it once was.  She 
had always thought it was better than Chico's, but has since become a 
Chico's convert.  They found Chico's about 8 years ago while traveling (it 
was the only place open in the area at 8:00 PM).  The Super Deli (combo 
pizza with just about every meat topping possible) is our favorite, but we 
like everything on our pizzas.

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 266Kmi, Ursula 


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Computers

2008-01-31 Thread Jim Cathey
> My buddy had a PET with 4 kb of memory...

Little known fact: the PET was designed for Radio Shack, but
Tandy thought it so nasty that they designed the Trash-80 to
deploy instead.  Commodore decided to sell it themselves.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT Timothy Robinson and a Betamax machine

2008-01-31 Thread Jim Cathey
> So Tim, any success in finding the old Beta VCR?

Mine are in the main AV stack under the TV.  Right
under the Laser Disc player.

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Re: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)

2008-01-31 Thread Jim Cathey
> There's a place on the southern Washington coast (Long
> Beach) called Chico's Pizza that makes their pizzas with all fresh
> ingredients piled high atop a reasonably thin and crunchy crust.

Chico's is decent?  I'll have to try it the next time we're
there.  Our cabin is on Idaho St., LB.  25 years ago there
was a nice place in Vancouver called Smokey's, don't know if
it's still there or if it's any good.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

2008-01-31 Thread Jim Cathey
> When all else is said, that little fender bender that's not my fault 
> will
> probably total my "old twenty-five year old car" in the eyes of the 
> other's
> insurance company.

Unless you're in a no-fault state (maybe), you're under no
particular obligation to accept anything they say.  After all,
you don't have any kind of contract with them!  They have
to 'make you whole', in other words.  Just the usual court
thing.  Either fix it as good as it was before, or replace it
with something equally as good.  The devil's in the details,
of course.

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Re: [MBZ] You asked for it

2008-01-31 Thread John Freer
Not to mention the folks behind youtalk about instigating road rage!

On 1/31/08, Kevin Kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Given enough time, I'll pull my keys out of the ignition and show them to
> the indignant driver.
>
> You're dead in the water if you can't get restarted!  :-)
>
> Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
> 1983 300SD 266Kmi, Ursula
>
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Re: [MBZ] You asked for it

2008-01-31 Thread Kevin Kraly
Given enough time, I'll pull my keys out of the ignition and show them to 
the indignant driver.

You're dead in the water if you can't get restarted!  :-)

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
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Re: [MBZ] [PIZZA] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)

2008-01-31 Thread Hendrik & Fay
And that is why a lot of Italians are small, feed the man meat.

Hendrik
who likes a BBQ with beer and bikini sheilas in the pool

Tom Hargrave wrote:
> I've eaten real spaagetti in Italy, just north of Venice. The noodles
> were coated in olive oil and a pile of red sauce sat dead center on the
> plate. There was no meat in the sauce.
>
> Thanks, Tom

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Re: [MBZ] [OT] Cockpit views

2008-01-31 Thread Hendrik & Fay

Well seeing there is a plane called a MB-2 I'll let you get away with 
making a off topic post and not marking it as such.

Hendrik
who likes to push buttons and pull levers to see what happens

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> Click on a plane for a cockpit view
>
> http://www.codeonemagazine.com/test/archives/2007/articles/jan_07/cockpits/coc
> kpits.html
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)

2008-01-31 Thread E M
I'd be very surprised if anyone hears from Amin again.

Ed
300E

On 31/01/2008, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Others like one certain tyrant in N Africa would not play so we sent in
> a few jets. Idi Amine (probably spelled wrong) has been very quite
> since.
>
> Thanks, Tom
> 256-656-1924
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "Hendrik & Fay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: 1/31/08 9:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)
>
> With fear and intimidation, "do as we say or else.bang"
> Anyway seeing you rule the world, perhaps you could tell China to get
> out of Tibet or get North Korea to stop being such bastards.
> Also those Japanese are killing all the worlds whales, could you do
> something. I believe that whales have oil in them if that is some
> inspiration.
> I'll ask about Africa once the above has been taken care of.
>
> Thank you in advance,
>
> Hendrik
> who doesn't live in the 1000 year Reich
>
> Gary Hurst wrote:
> >
> > how can a nation this moronic rule the world?  the end must be near,
> no?
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)

2008-01-31 Thread Wonko the Sane
You won't make it to my age.

On Jan 31, 2008 10:11 PM, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> MM, breakfast pizza.  Milk gravey for the sauce, topped with sausage,
> egg, and mozzarella.
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)

2008-01-31 Thread Tom Hargrave
We don't rule the world. We learned from England and Spain that you
can't, so we just buy the world instead.

Some like the idiot in N Korea with a GOD complex don't have a price.

Others like one certain tyrant in N Africa would not play so we sent in
a few jets. Idi Amine (probably spelled wrong) has been very quite
since.

Thanks, Tom
256-656-1924

-Original Message-
From: "Hendrik & Fay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: 1/31/08 9:30 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)

With fear and intimidation, "do as we say or else.bang"
Anyway seeing you rule the world, perhaps you could tell China to get 
out of Tibet or get North Korea to stop being such bastards.
Also those Japanese are killing all the worlds whales, could you do 
something. I believe that whales have oil in them if that is some 
inspiration.
I'll ask about Africa once the above has been taken care of.

Thank you in advance,

Hendrik
who doesn't live in the 1000 year Reich

Gary Hurst wrote:
>
> how can a nation this moronic rule the world?  the end must be near,
no?
>
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Re: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)

2008-01-31 Thread Tom Hargrave
I remember those days. We called the pages door sheets.

These days everything is run by computer. I reach into each store server
through a static VPN connection and pull all of the store's performance
data into a SQL database then I process any reports they may need. The
largest franchise I work with has 32 stores and several of my SQL tables
are approaching 2 million records. Most everything I do is automated
including the polling process.

The Corporate side of things has also gone hi tech. If you order a pizza
online, you can actually watch your order process through the store. The
Dominos web site has a bar that fills left to right as your order
progresses all the way through delivery.

Thanks, Tom
256-656-1924

-Original Message-
From: "Allan Streib" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: 1/31/08 9:34 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)

"Back office database" that's pretty funny.  When I worked there we  
wrote all the orders on 4 ply forms -- the red copy went to the make  
line, the yellow copy was for the driver and the white copy was glued  
to the box.  Totaled it up at the end of the night with an adding  
machine, which aside from the telephone switch was the only piece of  
electronic technology on the premises.  Heaven forbid if you lost a  
sheet of blank forms -- the franchise office would charge you $100  
per sheet.

Allan

On Jan 31, 2008, at 8:38 PM, Tom Hargrave wrote:

> I actually have a long relationship with Dominos - 24 years to be  
> exact.
> These days I develop back office databases for a few of the larger and
> better franchises.
>
> If you are fortunate enough to be served by a well run franchise,  
> you'll get
> great Dominos pizza. If you aren't, then they can deliver a pretty  
> lousy
> product. I can tell you that every Dominos store starts with top  
> quality
> ingredients from the dough all the way through the black olives -  
> the rest
> is up to the franchise. And they don't use corn syrup as a sauce  
> filler like
> their nearest competitor (Poppa Johns) does!
>
> What's my favorite pizza? Chicago style - but only in Chicago &  
> eaten at a
> local pizza store! Everyone else's Chicago style pizza is a poor  
> imitation.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave
> www.kegkits.com
> 256-656-1924
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Re: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)

2008-01-31 Thread E M
aaah, heaven. :-)

Ed
300E

On 31/01/2008, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I've eaten real spaagetti in Italy, just north of Venice. The noodles
> were coated in olive oil and a pile of red sauce sat dead center on the
> plate. There was no meat in the sauce.
>
>
> Thanks, Tom
> 256-656-1924
>
> -Original Message-
>
> From: "Timothy Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>
> Sent: 1/31/08 9:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)
>
> Pizza pie...
>
> Down here in the South I was raised to think that a nice sauce (spaghet)
> was
> just full of meat. An upstate Italy transplant friend taught that it was
> all
> about the tomato and not about chunky meat...
>
> I think most of the "pizza chains" it's about the quality of cheese
> used.
> Thin crust and real cheese... not this fake dog food stuff that they
> call
> Mozzerel.
>
> Then again, I'm a pasta and beans type o'guy.. fazzole/vazule...
> whatever.
>
> > From: "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> > Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:19:31 -0500
> > To: "Banned List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,  "Mercedes Discussion List"
> > 
> > Subject: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)
> >
> > i grew up in queens, which is not exactly a hot spot of culture.
> despite
> > the barbarism, there as still a few things we still value.  in terms
> of
> > food, pizza and deli are sacrosanct.  most queens pizza is a simply
> round
> > think pie that is very flexible, the crust being topped with a little
> sauce
> > and quite a bit of good mozzarella.  this is the paradigm for pizza to
> many
> > americans.   for those who prefer more bread, a so called "sicilian"
> pizza
> > is offered with, rectangular with an extremely thick crust.  both are
> darn
> > good!
> >
> > one might think that having grown up with such a strong pizza
> tradition,
> > that i'd be some kind of new york pizza snob.  i am not though.  i
> recognize
> > that there are many styles of great pizza apart from the simple new
> york
> > style.  there is really so many possibilities because pizza isn't
> anything
> > other than topped bread.  for example, take a gander at this CT pizza
> from
> > the north end of the long island sound:
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Whiteclampie.jpg
> >
> > it is fantastic, no?
> >
> > so with all this array of simply amazing possibilities, what do most
> > americans eat for pizza?  well, um, dominoes and pizza hut.  the
> frozen
> > stuff in the supermarket.
> >
> > how can a nation this moronic rule the world?  the end must be near,
> no?
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Re: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)

2008-01-31 Thread Gary Hurst
 a decent person would make his own sauce, but for the lazy like me, this
stuff works nicely.  it's expensive but you don't need to use a lot and it's
very good.

http://www.saucesnlove.com/scarp.htm

On Jan 31, 2008 11:09 PM, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've eaten real spaagetti in Italy, just north of Venice. The noodles
> were coated in olive oil and a pile of red sauce sat dead center on the
> plate. There was no meat in the sauce.
>
> Thanks, Tom
> 256-656-1924
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "Timothy Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: 1/31/08 9:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)
>
> Pizza pie...
>
> Down here in the South I was raised to think that a nice sauce (spaghet)
> was
> just full of meat. An upstate Italy transplant friend taught that it was
> all
> about the tomato and not about chunky meat...
>
> I think most of the "pizza chains" it's about the quality of cheese
> used.
> Thin crust and real cheese... not this fake dog food stuff that they
> call
> Mozzerel.
>
> Then again, I'm a pasta and beans type o'guy.. fazzole/vazule...
> whatever.
>
> > From: "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> > Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:19:31 -0500
> > To: "Banned List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,  "Mercedes Discussion List"
> > 
> > Subject: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)
> >
> > i grew up in queens, which is not exactly a hot spot of culture.
> despite
> > the barbarism, there as still a few things we still value.  in terms
> of
> > food, pizza and deli are sacrosanct.  most queens pizza is a simply
> round
> > think pie that is very flexible, the crust being topped with a little
> sauce
> > and quite a bit of good mozzarella.  this is the paradigm for pizza to
> many
> > americans.   for those who prefer more bread, a so called "sicilian"
> pizza
> > is offered with, rectangular with an extremely thick crust.  both are
> darn
> > good!
> >
> > one might think that having grown up with such a strong pizza
> tradition,
> > that i'd be some kind of new york pizza snob.  i am not though.  i
> recognize
> > that there are many styles of great pizza apart from the simple new
> york
> > style.  there is really so many possibilities because pizza isn't
> anything
> > other than topped bread.  for example, take a gander at this CT pizza
> from
> > the north end of the long island sound:
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Whiteclampie.jpg
> >
> > it is fantastic, no?
> >
> > so with all this array of simply amazing possibilities, what do most
> > americans eat for pizza?  well, um, dominoes and pizza hut.  the
> frozen
> > stuff in the supermarket.
> >
> > how can a nation this moronic rule the world?  the end must be near,
> no?
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Re: [MBZ] You asked for it

2008-01-31 Thread E M
Happened to me just today.  Driving along, behind a woman in the passing
lane going under the limit to boot.  Sees a temp tax station set up on the
other side of the street and with nothing in front of her, hits the brakes!
I lay on the horn, and all the cops look over from the other side of the
street.  Was pretty funny.

It would be interesting to know, and I'm sure it's never been looked into,
if setting up such traps to catch ppl creates a greater danger than the so
called offense of "speeding", what with cops running out into the middle of
traffic to wave ppl over, and the cars behind trying to figure out why the
sudden deceleration and then hitting the brakes themselves, not to mention
now bringing traffic to a stand still in one lane that was previously
flowing. Nothing spells frustration like two lanes attempting to merging
into one.  I won't even mention some of the near disasters I've seen after
watching ppl trying to merge back into flowing traffic from the shoulder of
a highway after getting a ticket.

If cops are after easy money, and really want to do something to protect
ppl, just set up shop beside any crosswalk.  My best bud is an ER doctor and
tells me 90% of ppl hit by cars are hit at crosswalks.  I've yet to see a
cop at a crosswalk in the city, ever!

I'll now return to the inside lane and play some soft classical music. :-)

Ed
300E

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>
> I think my all time driving one is when people are bombing along at the
> speed limit on either the freeway or on a street and they slow way down
> simply because John Law is visible somewhere. It's dumb on a street and
> dangerous on the freeway.
>
> Bob R
>
>
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>
> I'm gonna join in this nebulous thread by indulging myself in a small
> pet-peeve share. Hmmm, which one to share?
> Oh okay, here:
>
> At a four way stop (or a three way stop) I wish folks would really just
> know
> the law and follow it. Things would be so simple, and so much time saved.
>
> Instead, most seem to want to play the eye contact and wave-on game. Call
> me
> antisocial (I am) but I am not required to interact on that level with
> other
> drivers. I am required to follow the law. I love it when I don't make eye
> contact at a four-way, and the other driver, so convinced that eye contact
> is the law, all but refuses to go, even though they were clearly there
> first. Given enough time, I'll pull my keys out of the ignition and show
> them to the indignant driver.
>
> Brian
>
> On Jan 31, 2008 7:39 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > That really hacks me off either when somebody has the right of way and
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> > >> traffic hazard they are.
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Re: [MBZ] OT why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)

2008-01-31 Thread Luther
MM, breakfast pizza.  Milk gravey for the sauce, topped with sausage, egg, 
and mozzarella.
Or, fruit pizza.  Cookie dough crust, a cream cheese fruit dip sauce, topped 
with your favorite sliced fresh fruit.
Or, vegetable pizza.  Regular crust, cream cheese vegetable dip sauce, topped 
with finely chopped vegetables, and bacon/ham/turkey.

Luther

On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 17:29:27 -0600, Dwight E. Giles, Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> Well Gary,
>
> It's hard to top your post. I am a sometimes clam digger adn the clam pizza
> looks disgusting.  How about breakfast pizzas.
>
> Dwight
>
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Re: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)

2008-01-31 Thread Tom Hargrave
I've eaten real spaagetti in Italy, just north of Venice. The noodles
were coated in olive oil and a pile of red sauce sat dead center on the
plate. There was no meat in the sauce.

Thanks, Tom
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-Original Message-
From: "Timothy Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Sent: 1/31/08 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)

Pizza pie...

Down here in the South I was raised to think that a nice sauce (spaghet)
was
just full of meat. An upstate Italy transplant friend taught that it was
all
about the tomato and not about chunky meat...

I think most of the "pizza chains" it's about the quality of cheese
used.
Thin crust and real cheese... not this fake dog food stuff that they
call
Mozzerel. 

Then again, I'm a pasta and beans type o'guy.. fazzole/vazule...
whatever.

> From: "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:19:31 -0500
> To: "Banned List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,  "Mercedes Discussion List"
> 
> Subject: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)
> 
> i grew up in queens, which is not exactly a hot spot of culture.
despite
> the barbarism, there as still a few things we still value.  in terms
of
> food, pizza and deli are sacrosanct.  most queens pizza is a simply
round
> think pie that is very flexible, the crust being topped with a little
sauce
> and quite a bit of good mozzarella.  this is the paradigm for pizza to
many
> americans.   for those who prefer more bread, a so called "sicilian"
pizza
> is offered with, rectangular with an extremely thick crust.  both are
darn
> good!
> 
> one might think that having grown up with such a strong pizza
tradition,
> that i'd be some kind of new york pizza snob.  i am not though.  i
recognize
> that there are many styles of great pizza apart from the simple new
york
> style.  there is really so many possibilities because pizza isn't
anything
> other than topped bread.  for example, take a gander at this CT pizza
from
> the north end of the long island sound:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Whiteclampie.jpg
> 
> it is fantastic, no?
> 
> so with all this array of simply amazing possibilities, what do most
> americans eat for pizza?  well, um, dominoes and pizza hut.  the
frozen
> stuff in the supermarket.
> 
> how can a nation this moronic rule the world?  the end must be near,
no?
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Re: [MBZ] OT Bipolar GF? Was Admin

2008-01-31 Thread Wonko the Sane
By the way, Andrew wrote that, not me.

On Jan 31, 2008 9:55 PM, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Lt Don wrote: "I just noticed a guy at work who is normally totally
> withdrawn, but
> > the last two days has actually been charmingly communicative and even
> > whistling at times (had to ask him to stop as it irritates me)."
>
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] OT Bipolar GF? Was Admin

2008-01-31 Thread Wonko the Sane
Possible.

(Is it just me, or is the line between Mercedes and Banned blurring?  Not
that it would be a bad thing  )

On Jan 31, 2008 9:55 PM, Donald Snook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Lt Don wrote: "I just noticed a guy at work who is normally totally
> withdrawn, but
> > the last two days has actually been charmingly communicative and even
> > whistling at times (had to ask him to stop as it irritates me)."
>
> Maybe he just got laid.
>
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>
>
>


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[MBZ] Cockpit views

2008-01-31 Thread RELNGSON
Click on a plane for a cockpit view

http://www.codeonemagazine.com/test/archives/2007/articles/jan_07/cockpits/coc
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Re: [MBZ] You asked for it

2008-01-31 Thread Rick Knoble
> Instead, most seem to want to play the eye contact and wave-on game. Call me
> antisocial (I am) but I am not required to interact on that level with other
> drivers. I am required to follow the law. I love it when I don't make eye
> contact at a four-way, and the other driver, so convinced that eye contact
> is the law, all but refuses to go

I try to make eye contact at stop signs when I am on the bike. Even then, it is 
no guarantee that I won't be run down by some a-hole. I am to the point where I 
am ready to get the carry permit and take out anyone who threatens my life with 
their loaded weapon (suv). I wonder if that would be justifiable homicide? 

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Re: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)

2008-01-31 Thread Gary Hurst
everything is terrible at the chain.  it's really hard to make a good pizza
with bad dough, bad sauce and bad cheese.  it's a disgrace.  but hargrave
thinks it's good at dominos sometimes, so my argument is hopeless even here.

as for dog food, that old roy and alpo you guys give your dogs to hasten
cancer is pretty nasty, but $2 a pound bison and salmon wolfking my dogs eat
is pretty damn tasty.

dominos and alpo -- that is what our civilization has been reduced to

On Jan 31, 2008 10:46 PM, Timothy Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Pizza pie...
>
> Down here in the South I was raised to think that a nice sauce (spaghet)
> was
> just full of meat. An upstate Italy transplant friend taught that it was
> all
> about the tomato and not about chunky meat...
>
> I think most of the "pizza chains" it's about the quality of cheese used.
> Thin crust and real cheese... not this fake dog food stuff that they call
> Mozzerel.
>
> Then again, I'm a pasta and beans type o'guy.. fazzole/vazule... whatever.
>
> > From: "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> > Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:19:31 -0500
> > To: "Banned List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,  "Mercedes Discussion List"
> > 
> > Subject: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)
> >
> > i grew up in queens, which is not exactly a hot spot of culture.
>  despite
> > the barbarism, there as still a few things we still value.  in terms of
> > food, pizza and deli are sacrosanct.  most queens pizza is a simply
> round
> > think pie that is very flexible, the crust being topped with a little
> sauce
> > and quite a bit of good mozzarella.  this is the paradigm for pizza to
> many
> > americans.   for those who prefer more bread, a so called "sicilian"
> pizza
> > is offered with, rectangular with an extremely thick crust.  both are
> darn
> > good!
> >
> > one might think that having grown up with such a strong pizza tradition,
> > that i'd be some kind of new york pizza snob.  i am not though.  i
> recognize
> > that there are many styles of great pizza apart from the simple new york
> > style.  there is really so many possibilities because pizza isn't
> anything
> > other than topped bread.  for example, take a gander at this CT pizza
> from
> > the north end of the long island sound:
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Whiteclampie.jpg
> >
> > it is fantastic, no?
> >
> > so with all this array of simply amazing possibilities, what do most
> > americans eat for pizza?  well, um, dominoes and pizza hut.  the frozen
> > stuff in the supermarket.
> >
> > how can a nation this moronic rule the world?  the end must be near, no?
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Re: [MBZ] OT Bipolar GF? Was Admin

2008-01-31 Thread Donald Snook
Lt Don wrote: "I just noticed a guy at work who is normally totally withdrawn, 
but
> the last two days has actually been charmingly communicative and even
> whistling at times (had to ask him to stop as it irritates me)."

Maybe he just got laid.

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Re: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)

2008-01-31 Thread Timothy Robinson
Pizza pie...

Down here in the South I was raised to think that a nice sauce (spaghet) was
just full of meat. An upstate Italy transplant friend taught that it was all
about the tomato and not about chunky meat...

I think most of the "pizza chains" it's about the quality of cheese used.
Thin crust and real cheese... not this fake dog food stuff that they call
Mozzerel. 

Then again, I'm a pasta and beans type o'guy.. fazzole/vazule... whatever.

> From: "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:19:31 -0500
> To: "Banned List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,  "Mercedes Discussion List"
> 
> Subject: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)
> 
> i grew up in queens, which is not exactly a hot spot of culture.  despite
> the barbarism, there as still a few things we still value.  in terms of
> food, pizza and deli are sacrosanct.  most queens pizza is a simply round
> think pie that is very flexible, the crust being topped with a little sauce
> and quite a bit of good mozzarella.  this is the paradigm for pizza to many
> americans.   for those who prefer more bread, a so called "sicilian" pizza
> is offered with, rectangular with an extremely thick crust.  both are darn
> good!
> 
> one might think that having grown up with such a strong pizza tradition,
> that i'd be some kind of new york pizza snob.  i am not though.  i recognize
> that there are many styles of great pizza apart from the simple new york
> style.  there is really so many possibilities because pizza isn't anything
> other than topped bread.  for example, take a gander at this CT pizza from
> the north end of the long island sound:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Whiteclampie.jpg
> 
> it is fantastic, no?
> 
> so with all this array of simply amazing possibilities, what do most
> americans eat for pizza?  well, um, dominoes and pizza hut.  the frozen
> stuff in the supermarket.
> 
> how can a nation this moronic rule the world?  the end must be near, no?
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Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

2008-01-31 Thread Timothy Robinson
When all else is said, that little fender bender that's not my fault will
probably total my "old twenty-five year old car" in the eyes of the other's
insurance company. It's worth to me ten times what they would allow. My
other rationale is that carrying only liability is one of the benefits of
having an old paid for Benz.

SO... I'll drive to avoid any conflict. I'll be the old hound on the porch!
As long as I get where I need to be in the comfortable time that my
lifestyle allows, it's no problem. I don't have an interest only adjustable
rate mortgage so I understand your haste and pressure. I don't have 3.5 kids
in car seats screaming that I need to dump off at day care.  S'cuse me while
I just stay in the right lane and listen to old Elton John CDs and smoke my
Pall Malls. If my cell rings while I'm driving I'll check voice mail when I
get where I'm going. I'm smelling the roses as my journey is just as
precious as the destination I started out for. I'll stay out of your way.
Just don't "PI$$" me off.

So there!!!

T

> From: John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:14:44 -0600
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant
> 
> Richard Smith wrote:
>> The person in front always has the right of way in any state in the
>> USA. If they want to slow down and run along beside the car in the
>> right lane then they are well within the law to do so, but following
>> to close is a crime in every state.
> 
> You also have the legal right to flip off other drivers it doesn't
> mean it is the right thing to do.  Staying in the fast lane and not
> overtaking a vehicle when you have a string of cars behind you is
> extremely rude and liable to incite road rage in other drivers.  It is
> better for everyone involved if the person holding up traffic in the
> fast lane slows down/speeds up to get around the vehicle they are passing.
> 
>> To me it sounds like Luther is just being a good parent and
>> attempting to teach an immature childish driver a lesson in behaving
>> safe and respectful. Something we all have to do with two year old
>> occasionally. Its just to bad they give two year old drivers
>> licenses.
> 
> Two wrongs don't make a right.  Slamming on the brakes for no apparent
> reason is highly dangerous with a tailgater...  what happens if they
> can't stop in time, hit you on a corner, and throw you underneath that
> semi you're riding next to?  Then they go flying across the median into
> oncoming traffic.  Quite a lesson if you ask me.  Especially for the
> innocent bystanders.
> 
> John
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Re: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)

2008-01-31 Thread Allan Streib
"Back office database" that's pretty funny.  When I worked there we  
wrote all the orders on 4 ply forms -- the red copy went to the make  
line, the yellow copy was for the driver and the white copy was glued  
to the box.  Totaled it up at the end of the night with an adding  
machine, which aside from the telephone switch was the only piece of  
electronic technology on the premises.  Heaven forbid if you lost a  
sheet of blank forms -- the franchise office would charge you $100  
per sheet.

Allan

On Jan 31, 2008, at 8:38 PM, Tom Hargrave wrote:

> I actually have a long relationship with Dominos - 24 years to be  
> exact.
> These days I develop back office databases for a few of the larger and
> better franchises.
>
> If you are fortunate enough to be served by a well run franchise,  
> you'll get
> great Dominos pizza. If you aren't, then they can deliver a pretty  
> lousy
> product. I can tell you that every Dominos store starts with top  
> quality
> ingredients from the dough all the way through the black olives -  
> the rest
> is up to the franchise. And they don't use corn syrup as a sauce  
> filler like
> their nearest competitor (Poppa Johns) does!
>
> What's my favorite pizza? Chicago style - but only in Chicago &  
> eaten at a
> local pizza store! Everyone else's Chicago style pizza is a poor  
> imitation.
>
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave
> www.kegkits.com
> 256-656-1924
>

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Re: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)

2008-01-31 Thread Hendrik & Fay
With fear and intimidation, "do as we say or else.bang"
Anyway seeing you rule the world, perhaps you could tell China to get 
out of Tibet or get North Korea to stop being such bastards.
Also those Japanese are killing all the worlds whales, could you do 
something. I believe that whales have oil in them if that is some 
inspiration.
I'll ask about Africa once the above has been taken care of.

Thank you in advance,

Hendrik
who doesn't live in the 1000 year Reich

Gary Hurst wrote:
>
> how can a nation this moronic rule the world?  the end must be near, no?
>
>   

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Re: [MBZ] You asked for it

2008-01-31 Thread Robert Rentfro
I think my all time driving one is when people are bombing along at the
speed limit on either the freeway or on a street and they slow way down
simply because John Law is visible somewhere. It's dumb on a street and
dangerous on the freeway.

Bob R

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] You asked for it

I'm gonna join in this nebulous thread by indulging myself in a small
pet-peeve share. Hmmm, which one to share?
Oh okay, here:

At a four way stop (or a three way stop) I wish folks would really just know
the law and follow it. Things would be so simple, and so much time saved.

Instead, most seem to want to play the eye contact and wave-on game. Call me
antisocial (I am) but I am not required to interact on that level with other
drivers. I am required to follow the law. I love it when I don't make eye
contact at a four-way, and the other driver, so convinced that eye contact
is the law, all but refuses to go, even though they were clearly there
first. Given enough time, I'll pull my keys out of the ignition and show
them to the indignant driver.

Brian

On Jan 31, 2008 7:39 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> That really hacks me off either when somebody has the right of way and
> stops to let me know, or stops in front of me to let somebody else out.
>  I am sure they are just trying to be nice but it really causes problems.
>
> Allan Streib wrote:
> > On Jan 30, 2008, at 11:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >> When a driver, in traffic, is driving more slowly than the rest of
> >> the vehicles thus impeding the flow, you can be sure that they are
> >> oblivious to their surroundings and probably unskilled. And what a
> >> traffic hazard they are.
> >
> > Any time a driver does something "unexpected" they are a hazard.
> > This includes many things that may be intended as a "courtesy",
> > including many variations of yielding when they have the right of way.
> >
> > Allan
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Re: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)

2008-01-31 Thread Tom Hargrave
It's all in the detail.

Thanks, Tom
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Sent: 1/31/08 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)

You can make mad money making pizzas if you're careful. Back in the day
(early '80s) when my brother=in-law and I owned some sub shops near
Bradley
University in Peoria, IL, we had a small freestanding
building.
Long story short, made good money...sold thriving business to a guy who
didn't appear like a putz, he tries to cut corners to make more money
and
went belly up in less than a year.

Bob R. 

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)

what do most americans eat for pizza?

Most of the pizza available near me is either Pizza Hut, Dominoes or
others 
trying to immitate them.  There's also Round Table which is better, but
it 
doesn't do anything for my pizza craving other than to remind me that I
need

some REAL PIZZA!  .  There's a place on the southern Washington coast
(Long 
Beach) called Chico's Pizza that makes their pizzas with all fresh 
ingredients piled high atop a reasonably thin and crunchy crust.  Now
that's

a pizza!

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
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Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

2008-01-31 Thread Tom Hargrave
Here in Alabama there are no laws requiring drivers to stay right and
I'm as likely to pass on the right as on the left.

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Sent: 1/31/08 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

Was not trying to condone tailgating, I guess my point is that when  
you get into a pissing match on the expressway eventually someone is  
going to end up hurt or dead.

I stand by my position though that if you are impeding traffic in the  
left lane you should move right.  You are not there to enforce the  
speed limits (unless you happen to be a law enforcement officer).   
Sudden braking in the left lane, moving right to thwart a pass on the  
right after you've already blocked the other driver to the left  to  
"teach a tailgater a lesson" is as childish as the tailgating, and is  
escalating the situation.

I've been in a car with a friend who was pulled by a state trooper  
for driving in the left lane.  The left lane is for passing, and he  
was not passing, he was just driving there.  The cop approached from  
the rear, my friend did not move right and though he was not driving  
under the limit he was pulled over.  You cannot lollygag in the left  
lane and you cannot drive there pacing the traffic to the right.   
"Slower traffic keep right" is what the signs say.  Speeding is a  
separate and unrelated offense, as is tailgating.

Allan


On Jan 31, 2008, at 9:33 PM, Richard Smith wrote:

> Actually Alan anyone who tailgates is the one who is childish. The  
> one who
> initiates the tailgating is the one who is the aggressor. The  
> person in
> front always has the right of way in any state in the USA. If they  
> want to
> slow down and run along beside the car in the right lane then they  
> are well
> within the law to do so, but following to close is a crime in every  
> state.
>
> To me it sounds like Luther is just being a good parent and  
> attempting to
> teach an immature childish driver a lesson in behaving safe and  
> respectful.
> Something we all have to do with two year old occasionally. Its  
> just to bad
> they give two year old drivers licenses.
>
>
> On 1/31/08, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> Uusually I drive 5-10 MPH over posted speed limits on the interstate
>>> and very much dislike someone riding my bumper at 80 in the left
>>> lane.
>>
>> Then move right.  If you are impeding traffic in the left lane you
>> need to immediately signal your intention to move right and do so at
>> the next safe opportunity.  Ideally you are aware enough of traffic
>> behind you that you can do this in advance of being tailgated.
>>
>> The games you are describing (slowing down, etc.) are childish and
>> someday might cause a wreck and get someone killed.  It doesn't  
>> matter
>> how fast you are already going, even; You are not out there to  
>> enforce
>> speed limits.
>>
>> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] You asked for it

2008-01-31 Thread Zoltan Finks
I'm gonna join in this nebulous thread by indulging myself in a small
pet-peeve share. Hmmm, which one to share?
Oh okay, here:

At a four way stop (or a three way stop) I wish folks would really just know
the law and follow it. Things would be so simple, and so much time saved.

Instead, most seem to want to play the eye contact and wave-on game. Call me
antisocial (I am) but I am not required to interact on that level with other
drivers. I am required to follow the law. I love it when I don't make eye
contact at a four-way, and the other driver, so convinced that eye contact
is the law, all but refuses to go, even though they were clearly there
first. Given enough time, I'll pull my keys out of the ignition and show
them to the indignant driver.

Brian

On Jan 31, 2008 7:39 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> That really hacks me off either when somebody has the right of way and
> stops to let me know, or stops in front of me to let somebody else out.
>  I am sure they are just trying to be nice but it really causes problems.
>
> Allan Streib wrote:
> > On Jan 30, 2008, at 11:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >> When a driver, in traffic, is driving more slowly than the rest of
> >> the vehicles thus impeding the flow, you can be sure that they are
> >> oblivious to their surroundings and probably unskilled. And what a
> >> traffic hazard they are.
> >
> > Any time a driver does something "unexpected" they are a hazard.
> > This includes many things that may be intended as a "courtesy",
> > including many variations of yielding when they have the right of way.
> >
> > Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

2008-01-31 Thread Robert Rentfro
People from CA have a bad habit of driving in the left lane while doing at
or just below the speed limit. I will sometimes come up right behind them
and tailgate them in an effort to get them to get the heck in the right
lane. I don't flash my lightthis isn't the Autobahn.

Bob R.

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

Was not trying to condone tailgating, I guess my point is that when  
you get into a pissing match on the expressway eventually someone is  
going to end up hurt or dead.

I stand by my position though that if you are impeding traffic in the  
left lane you should move right.  You are not there to enforce the  
speed limits (unless you happen to be a law enforcement officer).   
Sudden braking in the left lane, moving right to thwart a pass on the  
right after you've already blocked the other driver to the left  to  
"teach a tailgater a lesson" is as childish as the tailgating, and is  
escalating the situation.

I've been in a car with a friend who was pulled by a state trooper  
for driving in the left lane.  The left lane is for passing, and he  
was not passing, he was just driving there.  The cop approached from  
the rear, my friend did not move right and though he was not driving  
under the limit he was pulled over.  You cannot lollygag in the left  
lane and you cannot drive there pacing the traffic to the right.   
"Slower traffic keep right" is what the signs say.  Speeding is a  
separate and unrelated offense, as is tailgating.

Allan


On Jan 31, 2008, at 9:33 PM, Richard Smith wrote:

> Actually Alan anyone who tailgates is the one who is childish. The  
> one who
> initiates the tailgating is the one who is the aggressor. The  
> person in
> front always has the right of way in any state in the USA. If they  
> want to
> slow down and run along beside the car in the right lane then they  
> are well
> within the law to do so, but following to close is a crime in every  
> state.
>
> To me it sounds like Luther is just being a good parent and  
> attempting to
> teach an immature childish driver a lesson in behaving safe and  
> respectful.
> Something we all have to do with two year old occasionally. Its  
> just to bad
> they give two year old drivers licenses.
>
>
> On 1/31/08, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> Uusually I drive 5-10 MPH over posted speed limits on the interstate
>>> and very much dislike someone riding my bumper at 80 in the left
>>> lane.
>>
>> Then move right.  If you are impeding traffic in the left lane you
>> need to immediately signal your intention to move right and do so at
>> the next safe opportunity.  Ideally you are aware enough of traffic
>> behind you that you can do this in advance of being tailgated.
>>
>> The games you are describing (slowing down, etc.) are childish and
>> someday might cause a wreck and get someone killed.  It doesn't  
>> matter
>> how fast you are already going, even; You are not out there to  
>> enforce
>> speed limits.
>>
>> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)

2008-01-31 Thread Tom Hargrave
South East works. I usually pick up I65 right at the top and head
straight South.

Thanks, Tom
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)

> 
> Rick Knoble
> 45 minutes from Chicago

> Are you north, south, east or west of Chicago?
> 
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave

Southeast. I live in Northwest Indiana. Portage to be exact. Google
46368 Stop by next time you are on your way home from Wisconsin. I'll
buy you a burger and a beer.

Rick Knoble 
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT

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Re: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four

2008-01-31 Thread OK Don
Ah -- now that's do-able! Good idea. Thanks!

On Jan 31, 2008 8:50 PM, dave walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No, but doing a pressure test with water is much less dangerous that
> testing with air. A failure will split the tank rather than explode
> it. Fill with water and pressurize with air if need be. The less air,
> the better.
>
> -Dave Walton


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Re: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)

2008-01-31 Thread Rick Knoble
Tom,
Probably more on topic to take you out for a pizza and beer.

Rick Knoble 
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'87 190 DT

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Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

2008-01-31 Thread John Robbins
Richard Smith wrote:
> The person in front always has the right of way in any state in the
> USA. If they want to slow down and run along beside the car in the
> right lane then they are well within the law to do so, but following
> to close is a crime in every state.

You also have the legal right to flip off other drivers it doesn't 
mean it is the right thing to do.  Staying in the fast lane and not 
overtaking a vehicle when you have a string of cars behind you is 
extremely rude and liable to incite road rage in other drivers.  It is 
better for everyone involved if the person holding up traffic in the 
fast lane slows down/speeds up to get around the vehicle they are passing.

> To me it sounds like Luther is just being a good parent and
> attempting to teach an immature childish driver a lesson in behaving
> safe and respectful. Something we all have to do with two year old
> occasionally. Its just to bad they give two year old drivers
> licenses.

Two wrongs don't make a right.  Slamming on the brakes for no apparent 
reason is highly dangerous with a tailgater...  what happens if they 
can't stop in time, hit you on a corner, and throw you underneath that 
semi you're riding next to?  Then they go flying across the median into 
oncoming traffic.  Quite a lesson if you ask me.  Especially for the 
innocent bystanders.

John

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Re: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)

2008-01-31 Thread Rick Knoble
> 
> Rick Knoble
> 45 minutes from Chicago

> Are you north, south, east or west of Chicago?
> 
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave

Southeast. I live in Northwest Indiana. Portage to be exact. Google 46368 Stop 
by next time you are on your way home from Wisconsin. I'll buy you a burger and 
a beer.

Rick Knoble 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

2008-01-31 Thread Allan Streib
Was not trying to condone tailgating, I guess my point is that when  
you get into a pissing match on the expressway eventually someone is  
going to end up hurt or dead.

I stand by my position though that if you are impeding traffic in the  
left lane you should move right.  You are not there to enforce the  
speed limits (unless you happen to be a law enforcement officer).   
Sudden braking in the left lane, moving right to thwart a pass on the  
right after you've already blocked the other driver to the left  to  
"teach a tailgater a lesson" is as childish as the tailgating, and is  
escalating the situation.

I've been in a car with a friend who was pulled by a state trooper  
for driving in the left lane.  The left lane is for passing, and he  
was not passing, he was just driving there.  The cop approached from  
the rear, my friend did not move right and though he was not driving  
under the limit he was pulled over.  You cannot lollygag in the left  
lane and you cannot drive there pacing the traffic to the right.   
"Slower traffic keep right" is what the signs say.  Speeding is a  
separate and unrelated offense, as is tailgating.

Allan


On Jan 31, 2008, at 9:33 PM, Richard Smith wrote:

> Actually Alan anyone who tailgates is the one who is childish. The  
> one who
> initiates the tailgating is the one who is the aggressor. The  
> person in
> front always has the right of way in any state in the USA. If they  
> want to
> slow down and run along beside the car in the right lane then they  
> are well
> within the law to do so, but following to close is a crime in every  
> state.
>
> To me it sounds like Luther is just being a good parent and  
> attempting to
> teach an immature childish driver a lesson in behaving safe and  
> respectful.
> Something we all have to do with two year old occasionally. Its  
> just to bad
> they give two year old drivers licenses.
>
>
> On 1/31/08, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> Uusually I drive 5-10 MPH over posted speed limits on the interstate
>>> and very much dislike someone riding my bumper at 80 in the left
>>> lane.
>>
>> Then move right.  If you are impeding traffic in the left lane you
>> need to immediately signal your intention to move right and do so at
>> the next safe opportunity.  Ideally you are aware enough of traffic
>> behind you that you can do this in advance of being tailgated.
>>
>> The games you are describing (slowing down, etc.) are childish and
>> someday might cause a wreck and get someone killed.  It doesn't  
>> matter
>> how fast you are already going, even; You are not out there to  
>> enforce
>> speed limits.
>>
>> Allan
>> --
>> 1983 300D
>> 1966 230
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Re: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four

2008-01-31 Thread dave walton
No, but doing a pressure test with water is much less dangerous that
testing with air. A failure will split the tank rather than explode
it. Fill with water and pressurize with air if need be. The less air,
the better.

-Dave Walton

On Jan 31, 2008 9:13 PM, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Doesn't sound like a home project for a relatively large tank 
>
> On Jan 31, 2008 7:58 PM, dave walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > That's the procedure they use for testing Scuba cylinders. It's called
> > a Hydrostatic test. Immerse the cylinder in water and measure the
> > additional displacement when the tank is pressurized as a test of the
> > expansion properties of the metal. Old metal becomes brittle and does
> > not expand as easily. They over pressurize the tank in the process to
> > see if it bursts. They pressurize with water because it contracts less
> > under pressure so that when a tank bursts, the damage to the test rig
> > from the sudden release of pressure is minimal.
> >
> > -Dave Walton
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four

2008-01-31 Thread Richard Smith
The impact provides the needed torque to break the nut or bolt, then backs
it out very fast. Same working action as a half inch impact wrench used at
tire shops, but considerably less torque. The size makes it very easy and
comfortable to use one handed. Strong enough to pull head nuts off, but not
strong enough to pull lug nuts off.

Mechanic friend of mine turned me on to them when I used to help him rebuild
VW air cooled engines on weekend. Seriously speeds up tearing an engine down
to line boar.


On 1/31/08, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Butterfly impact?  Is there a torque or longevity benefit or is it just a
> comfort thing for you?
>
> Luther
>
> On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:29:35 -0600, Richard Smith <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > You set it outside run it up and let it set all day. 150 psi is not
> going to
> > blow anything up, but I would not want to be standing in front of the
> relief
> > valve or drain plug if it blew out.
> >
> > As for the ratchet I have one, but I find I use my 3/8" butterfly impact
> a
> > lot more than the ratchet. The only time I use the ratchet is for a long
> > bolt that I cant get the butterfly too. The ratchet is slow, and not
> strong
> > enough to break anything loose with air pressure alone.
> >
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)

2008-01-31 Thread Robert Rentfro
You can make mad money making pizzas if you're careful. Back in the day
(early '80s) when my brother=in-law and I owned some sub shops near Bradley
University in Peoria, IL, we had a small freestanding building.
Long story short, made good money...sold thriving business to a guy who
didn't appear like a putz, he tries to cut corners to make more money and
went belly up in less than a year.

Bob R. 

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)

what do most americans eat for pizza?

Most of the pizza available near me is either Pizza Hut, Dominoes or others 
trying to immitate them.  There's also Round Table which is better, but it 
doesn't do anything for my pizza craving other than to remind me that I need

some REAL PIZZA!  .  There's a place on the southern Washington coast (Long 
Beach) called Chico's Pizza that makes their pizzas with all fresh 
ingredients piled high atop a reasonably thin and crunchy crust.  Now that's

a pizza!

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
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Re: [MBZ] Crispy

2008-01-31 Thread RELNGSON
> < wall.>>
> 
Yep, that's him, all right. Is that a Packard patch on his shirt?

RLE
> 
> 




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Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

2008-01-31 Thread Richard Smith
Actually Alan anyone who tailgates is the one who is childish. The one who
initiates the tailgating is the one who is the aggressor. The person in
front always has the right of way in any state in the USA. If they want to
slow down and run along beside the car in the right lane then they are well
within the law to do so, but following to close is a crime in every state.

To me it sounds like Luther is just being a good parent and attempting to
teach an immature childish driver a lesson in behaving safe and respectful.
Something we all have to do with two year old occasionally. Its just to bad
they give two year old drivers licenses.


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>
> Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Uusually I drive 5-10 MPH over posted speed limits on the interstate
> > and very much dislike someone riding my bumper at 80 in the left
> > lane.
>
> Then move right.  If you are impeding traffic in the left lane you
> need to immediately signal your intention to move right and do so at
> the next safe opportunity.  Ideally you are aware enough of traffic
> behind you that you can do this in advance of being tailgated.
>
> The games you are describing (slowing down, etc.) are childish and
> someday might cause a wreck and get someone killed.  It doesn't matter
> how fast you are already going, even; You are not out there to enforce
> speed limits.
>
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

2008-01-31 Thread Richard Smith
I thought the same thing at the time. I stayed in my car with the windows up
and the engine running just in case he decided to be even more crazy before
the highway patrol arrived, but he stayed in his truck and behaved himself.
Turns out he lives in Tulsa which is about 100 miles NE of OKC. So hopefully
it will not be worth his effort to drive all the way down here just to
hassle me, but I will keep my eyes open!

On 1/31/08, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Richard,
> Sounds like you were lucky to come out without getting hurt.  Hopefully
> they
> can keep some of your identifying info from him - he sounds like someone
> who
> likes to do stupid things.  You might want a restraining order forcing him
> to keep his distance.
>
> Or maybe I;m overreacting -
>
> Good luck-
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> - Original Message -
> From: "Richard Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 12:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant
>
>
> > Interesting that you ask this question.
> >
> > Just yesterday I was being tailgated by an F150. I was in my 300D right
> > lane
> > of I-40 here in OKC in a left hand curve we call the Tinker diagonal. He
> > was
> > so close all I could see was grill. I was doing 60, speed limit was 50,
> > left
> > lane was doing maybe 5mph faster than me. I let off the gas and slowed
> to
> > 50. I just new trouble was coming. He whipped into the left lane, got
> > halfway past me, then started changing lanes right into me. While there
> is
> > a
> > shoulder there it was covered with salt and sand from our last freeze. I
> > just knew if I got on that I would slide right into the concrete
> barrier,
> > and he would drive off and I would be left with a totaled car that I
> only
> > carry liability insurance on. I stayed in my lane and got on the breaks
> > (abs
> > seems to work just fine), but he was still going to hit me unless I
> headed
> > for the barrier. Well I held my lane. His right rear clipped my front
> > left.
> >
> > Two people stopped and left me names and numbers. The highway patrolman
> > called them and the both said pretty much what I had already told the
> > officer, but one of them did say she was in the left lane and the truck
> > could not have been more than 2 feet off my bumper.
> >
> > Now I am going to have to find a new left front finder, turn signal, and
> > headlight. He on the other hand is going to have to replace his totaled
> > truck, and pay about $400 in tickets, and probably higher insurance
> > premiums. He ended up on the shoulder and slide right into that concrete
> > barrier.
> >
> > So no, I do not think it is ever acceptable to tailgate. That being said
> I
> > have done it, and plan to give myself a timeout if I ever do it again!!!
> >
> > On 1/30/08, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Simple question: If a car in front of you is going slower than you want
> >> to
> >> go, do you consider it your right to tailgate them?
> >> Not a trick question. I just want input as the the current mindset out
> >> there. It may help me understand.
> >>
> >> It used to be that, in my circle of friends and acquaintances,
> tailgating
> >> was a sign of aggression. People got into fistfights and sometimes shot
> >> for
> >> it. But now it seems as I'm tailgated every single time I drive, it
> isn't
> >> personal. The times I've been able to confront someone for doing it,
> most
> >> of
> >> them have seemed genuinely clueless why I was mad at them.
> >>
> >> To answer the next logical question: I don't drive all that slowly -
> just
> >> in
> >> a sane fashion somewhere around the speed limit, or maybe 5 above or 5
> >> below
> >> depending on conditions. (talking about in-town here).
> >>
> >> And I also do not accelerate that fast because of: Fuel costs,
> >> Environmental
> >> Issues, Wear and tear on vehicle, and just generally not wishing to be
> a
> >> pedal-mashing, non-thinking idiot that stabs the accelerator by
> default.
> >>
> >> What say all?
> >>
> >> Brian
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Re: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)

2008-01-31 Thread Tom Hargrave
Are you north, south, east or west of Chicago?

Thanks,
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> What's my favorite pizza? Chicago style - but only in Chicago & eaten at a
> local pizza store! Everyone else's Chicago style pizza is a poor
imitation.
> 
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave

Exactly!

Rick Knoble
45 minutes from Chicago

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Re: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four

2008-01-31 Thread OK Don
Doesn't sound like a home project for a relatively large tank 

On Jan 31, 2008 7:58 PM, dave walton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's the procedure they use for testing Scuba cylinders. It's called
> a Hydrostatic test. Immerse the cylinder in water and measure the
> additional displacement when the tank is pressurized as a test of the
> expansion properties of the metal. Old metal becomes brittle and does
> not expand as easily. They over pressurize the tank in the process to
> see if it bursts. They pressurize with water because it contracts less
> under pressure so that when a tank bursts, the damage to the test rig
> from the sudden release of pressure is minimal.
>
> -Dave Walton

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Re: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)

2008-01-31 Thread Rick Knoble
> What's my favorite pizza? Chicago style - but only in Chicago & eaten at a
> local pizza store! Everyone else's Chicago style pizza is a poor imitation.
> 
> Thanks,
> Tom Hargrave

Exactly!

Rick Knoble
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Re: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four

2008-01-31 Thread dave walton
That's the procedure they use for testing Scuba cylinders. It's called
a Hydrostatic test. Immerse the cylinder in water and measure the
additional displacement when the tank is pressurized as a test of the
expansion properties of the metal. Old metal becomes brittle and does
not expand as easily. They over pressurize the tank in the process to
see if it bursts. They pressurize with water because it contracts less
under pressure so that when a tank bursts, the damage to the test rig
from the sudden release of pressure is minimal.

-Dave Walton

On Jan 31, 2008 10:59 AM, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My old compressor had a date stamp on the tank of 1947. It always made me 
> nervous too. I tried to find out how to
> test it or what it would cost to have it tested without much success. I 
> remember way back when, the govt sent
> around a fellow who tested just by banging with a hammer and listening to the 
> sound. I am told that the proper way
> is with water. One needs to be able to pressurize the tank to something way 
> beyond normal with water. If it has any
> faults, it will spring a leak but not explode apparently.
>
> My ultimate solution was to buy a new tank and transplant the compressor head 
> and motor etc to the new tank. No
> problems since and I am careful to bleed off accumulated water regularly.
>
> Randy
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of OK Don
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 10:23 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four
>
>
> I see that Harbor Freight has a 3/8" air ratchet on sale for $9.99. Is
> there a chance that it would be useful?
>
> Also --- I inherited an old (1958) air compressor from my Dad. It ran
> in his dental office for most of the years, and was taken care of
> then, but has been sitting in the barn for the last six or seven
> years. It runs OK, but does blow a fair amount of rust at the low
> pressures I've let it build up. How do I determine whether the tank is
> safe to get to 150 psi other than turning it one and leaving the house
> for the rest of the day and praying?
>
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Re: [MBZ] Again, I ask, why are the majority of my posts bouncing back?

2008-01-31 Thread Rick Knoble
> Well the basis is that if there was a problem at okiebenz.com then a lot 
> of people would be having problems, as Richard seems to be the only one 
> I would suggest that the problem may be with Richards hardware/software 
> or his ISP. I don't expect Kaleb to be able to fix Richards computer or ISP.
> Perhaps Richard could try another browser or using an online email 
> account such as hotmail or yahoo.
> 

I have been having problems with hotmail lately. It was completely crashed this 
noon time. Seems all better now. I just waded through 200 emails from this 
list... Whew

Rick Knoble

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Re: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)

2008-01-31 Thread Tom Hargrave
I actually have a long relationship with Dominos - 24 years to be exact.
These days I develop back office databases for a few of the larger and
better franchises.

If you are fortunate enough to be served by a well run franchise, you'll get
great Dominos pizza. If you aren't, then they can deliver a pretty lousy
product. I can tell you that every Dominos store starts with top quality
ingredients from the dough all the way through the black olives - the rest
is up to the franchise. And they don't use corn syrup as a sauce filler like
their nearest competitor (Poppa Johns) does!

What's my favorite pizza? Chicago style - but only in Chicago & eaten at a
local pizza store! Everyone else's Chicago style pizza is a poor imitation.

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Subject: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)

i grew up in queens, which is not exactly a hot spot of culture.  despite
the barbarism, there as still a few things we still value.  in terms of
food, pizza and deli are sacrosanct.  most queens pizza is a simply round
think pie that is very flexible, the crust being topped with a little sauce
and quite a bit of good mozzarella.  this is the paradigm for pizza to many
americans.   for those who prefer more bread, a so called "sicilian" pizza
is offered with, rectangular with an extremely thick crust.  both are darn
good!

one might think that having grown up with such a strong pizza tradition,
that i'd be some kind of new york pizza snob.  i am not though.  i recognize
that there are many styles of great pizza apart from the simple new york
style.  there is really so many possibilities because pizza isn't anything
other than topped bread.  for example, take a gander at this CT pizza from
the north end of the long island sound:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Whiteclampie.jpg

it is fantastic, no?

so with all this array of simply amazing possibilities, what do most
americans eat for pizza?  well, um, dominoes and pizza hut.  the frozen
stuff in the supermarket.

how can a nation this moronic rule the world?  the end must be near, no?
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Re: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four

2008-01-31 Thread OK Don
Hmmm --  doesn't seem strange to me - Dad would pull little kid's
teeth where ever they were by pulling out a pair of ignition pliers
from his pocket, and doing it right there. They were so surprised,
that it was over before they could get upset. So dentist and tool
don't bother me -- though I can see how might look that way to others
-

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> There's something painful about reading 3/8" air ratchet and "dentist" in
> the same post...


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Re: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four

2008-01-31 Thread OK Don
Where did you find a new tank? I'm inclined to go that way, though I
might go ahead and let it come up to pressure this weekend.

On Jan 31, 2008 9:59 AM, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My old compressor had a date stamp on the tank of 1947. It always made me 
> nervous too. I tried to find out how to
> test it or what it would cost to have it tested without much success. I 
> remember way back when, the govt sent
> around a fellow who tested just by banging with a hammer and listening to the 
> sound. I am told that the proper way
> is with water. One needs to be able to pressurize the tank to something way 
> beyond normal with water. If it has any
> faults, it will spring a leak but not explode apparently.
>
> My ultimate solution was to buy a new tank and transplant the compressor head 
> and motor etc to the new tank. No
> problems since and I am careful to bleed off accumulated water regularly.
>
> Randy
>

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Re: [MBZ] Crispy

2008-01-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
a true classic

LWB250 wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] Crispy

2008-01-31 Thread LWB250
Here you go, right out of the classics vault.  I have
a copy framed on my wall.

Dan

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[MBZ] SLK with SLR engine vs. Enzo

2008-01-31 Thread E M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5MA0svuuE4

Ed
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Re: [MBZ] Somebody should buy this and swap it into a 114

2008-01-31 Thread E M
I saw a video on YouTube of a guy who stuck an engine from a SLR into a
SLK.  He was racing a Ferrari Enzo, in a straight line of course. :-)  If I
can find it again, I'll post the link.

Ed
300E

On 31/01/2008, Alex Chamberlain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/pts/558324661.html
>
> It's almost as cheap as doing one of those Chevy 350 conversions that
> pop up now and then, and a lot classier.
>
> Alex Chamberlain
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[MBZ] Somebody should buy this and swap it into a 114

2008-01-31 Thread Alex Chamberlain
http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/pts/558324661.html

It's almost as cheap as doing one of those Chevy 350 conversions that
pop up now and then, and a lot classier.

Alex Chamberlain
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Re: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)

2008-01-31 Thread Kevin Kraly
what do most americans eat for pizza?

Most of the pizza available near me is either Pizza Hut, Dominoes or others 
trying to immitate them.  There's also Round Table which is better, but it 
doesn't do anything for my pizza craving other than to remind me that I need 
some REAL PIZZA!  .  There's a place on the southern Washington coast (Long 
Beach) called Chico's Pizza that makes their pizzas with all fresh 
ingredients piled high atop a reasonably thin and crunchy crust.  Now that's 
a pizza!

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
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Re: [MBZ] Projeckt-Wagen 4 VICTORY!!!

2008-01-31 Thread Kevin Kraly
It sounds like you got a nice car for $606.84 and a little work.  You are 
the big winner!

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
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Re: [MBZ] Again, I ask, why are the majority of my posts bouncing back?

2008-01-31 Thread Wonko the Sane
Some (many?) of us are having success using GMail for the list mail. If you
want an invite for an account, email me offlist and I will send you one.

On Jan 31, 2008 12:59 AM, RICHARD FIne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> I have never, and have no problem in all the other forums, sites ect. this
> is the only place my posts bounce back... what do I need to do to fix that?
>
> The only posts that seem to go through are when I ask about why I can't
> post... every other post I send about Mercedes questions or other questions
> are bounced back to me... this is intentional?
> I have been a member of this Forum for over 7 years, I don't know why I
> have a problem now?
>
>
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

2008-01-31 Thread Hendrik & Fay
A lot of people have no idea of the requirements of a truck and think it 
is just like a car. Happened to me a couple of times, leave enough room 
so I can safely and efficiently bring the truck to a stop and some turd 
in a little buzz box jumps into that space, all of a sudden a relaxed 
stopping maneuverer turns into a frenzied maximum braking effort.
The stupid part is that idiots would not even know that they done 
anything wrong but think that I was a cowboy truck driver hell bent on 
trying to scare the brown stuff out of them, when I just managed to 
bring the truck to a stop a couple of feet off their rear end. Luckily 
most of the driving I did was out in the bush away from the yuppies and 
their mobile phones.
Of course if you ever rear ended one of these clowns guess who is going 
to be in the poo for not leaving enough distance.

Hendrik
who don't mind driving trucks when it all goes well but it never did

Fmiser wrote:
> Just remember that next time you think of using the space in
> front of a big truck!
>
> The driver has to juggle. 
>
> One - he has a _much_ slower acceleration than a 240 automatic
> with a stretched timing chain so he'll want to avoid slowing
> down just to speed up. 
>
> Two - it takes a lot of space to stop even a half-loaded big
> truck.
>
> --Philip
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)

2008-01-31 Thread E M
Anyone try buying the dough and doing a BBQ version, right on the grill?
Pretty good too.  Friend of mine owns a pizza shop, so he makes it just the
way I like, thin crust, and light on the toppings.  I like it just like our
cars; made with top quality ingredients, and nothing too fancy. :-)

Ed
300E

On 31/01/2008, Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> i grew up in queens, which is not exactly a hot spot of culture.  despite
> the barbarism, there as still a few things we still value.  in terms of
> food, pizza and deli are sacrosanct.  most queens pizza is a simply round
> think pie that is very flexible, the crust being topped with a little
> sauce
> and quite a bit of good mozzarella.  this is the paradigm for pizza to
> many
> americans.   for those who prefer more bread, a so called "sicilian" pizza
> is offered with, rectangular with an extremely thick crust.  both are darn
> good!
>
> one might think that having grown up with such a strong pizza tradition,
> that i'd be some kind of new york pizza snob.  i am not though.  i
> recognize
> that there are many styles of great pizza apart from the simple new york
> style.  there is really so many possibilities because pizza isn't anything
> other than topped bread.  for example, take a gander at this CT pizza from
> the north end of the long island sound:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Whiteclampie.jpg
>
> it is fantastic, no?
>
> so with all this array of simply amazing possibilities, what do most
> americans eat for pizza?  well, um, dominoes and pizza hut.  the frozen
> stuff in the supermarket.
>
> how can a nation this moronic rule the world?  the end must be near, no?
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Re: [MBZ] 2008 Mercedes-Benz C220 CDI Test Drive: Torque-Rich Euro Diesel Scores 41 MPG

2008-01-31 Thread Hendrik & Fay
I think the original rant was about the exchange rate of Euro vs dollar.
I know back in 97 we went to the UK and then the exchange rate was 33 
pence to the Oz. Problem is that people in the UK get paid in pounds 
pretty much the same as what we get paid in Oz $'s.
Say $30,000 is the average wage, that means that when we get to the UK 
we got 10,000 pounds compared to the average wage over there of 
30,000pounds. I think fuel is about 1.5 pounds per litre, which is 
$4.50/liter to us but to a pom it is only 1.50. That's where we get screwed
However yes fuel is taxed a bit more in Euro land.

Hendrik
who is as confused as you

Allan Streib wrote:
> "Walt Lasher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> [...]
>
> Nice review, thanks.  From the "comments" section:
>
>   
>>  In Germany, your lowest octane rating is 95. Our highest is 92,
>> the lowest being 87. So the extra cost you're paying for fuel is
>> because you're getting better fuel.
>> 
>
> Like everything else, europeans meaure octane differently than we do
> in the USA, using the "Research Octane Number" which is a a higher
> number by 4 or 5 points than the numbers we are accustomed to in the
> states.
>
> The real reason for higher fuel costs in europe is mostly taxes.
>
> I hope that wasn't too political a cooment.
>
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Again, I ask, why are the majority of my posts bouncing back?

2008-01-31 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Well the basis is that if there was a problem at okiebenz.com then a lot 
of people would be having problems, as Richard seems to be the only one 
I would suggest that the problem may be with Richards hardware/software 
or his ISP. I don't expect Kaleb to be able to fix Richards computer or ISP.
Perhaps Richard could try another browser or using an online email 
account such as hotmail or yahoo.

Hendrik

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> Richard, quite frankly these posts are starting get annoying.  I have no 
> clue what your problem is but I suspect it involves your ISP.  Problems 
> with list issues should NOT be posted to the list, but rather sent to 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] or to me offlist.  You are more than welcome to 
> forward one of these bounces to me and I will see if I can be of help. 
> Most likely I will not be able to though.
>
> KAleb
>
> RICHARD FIne wrote:
>   
>> I have never, and have no problem in all the other forums, sites ect. this 
>> is the only place my posts bounce back... what do I need to do to fix that?
>>  
>> The only posts that seem to go through are when I ask about why I can't 
>> post... every other post I send about Mercedes questions or other questions 
>> are bounced back to me... this is intentional?
>> I have been a member of this Forum for over 7 years, I don't know why I have 
>> a problem now?
>>  
>>  
>> Rick
>>
>> 
>
>   

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Re: [MBZ] OT why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)

2008-01-31 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Well Gary,

It's hard to top your post. I am a sometimes clam digger adn the clam pizza
looks disgusting.  How about breakfast pizzas. 

Dwight 

 

Bissell Cove Quahog & Auto Salvage Co

"Our Clams are Fresh & Our Cars are Vintage"

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.

Wickford RI 02852

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Gary Hurst
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 6:20 PM
To: Banned List; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)

 

i grew up in queens, which is not exactly a hot spot of culture.  despite

the barbarism, there as still a few things we still value.  in terms of

food, pizza and deli are sacrosanct.  most queens pizza is a simply round

think pie that is very flexible, the crust being topped with a little sauce

and quite a bit of good mozzarella.  this is the paradigm for pizza to many

americans.   for those who prefer more bread, a so called "sicilian" pizza

is offered with, rectangular with an extremely thick crust.  both are darn

good!

 

one might think that having grown up with such a strong pizza tradition,

that i'd be some kind of new york pizza snob.  i am not though.  i recognize

that there are many styles of great pizza apart from the simple new york

style.  there is really so many possibilities because pizza isn't anything

other than topped bread.  for example, take a gander at this CT pizza from

the north end of the long island sound:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Whiteclampie.jpg

 

it is fantastic, no?

 

so with all this array of simply amazing possibilities, what do most

americans eat for pizza?  well, um, dominoes and pizza hut.  the frozen

stuff in the supermarket.

 

how can a nation this moronic rule the world?  the end must be near, no?

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes question

2008-01-31 Thread LWB250
There are only certain ones that have the chain, and
they are considerably more expensive than the plain
rubber ones.  I think they were used primarily on the
107 chassis, for some reason.  I just know my dealer
parts guy knew the distinction and would steer me to
the "regular" ones if I needed one.

As for the constant breakage, I agree with Tom.  There
is something amiss in the system if they're all
breaking on a regular basis.  Otherwise, you're buying
cheap knock-off ones that are made more of carbon
black than rubber.

Ask me about Karmann Ghia chassis rubber and seals
some time and I can tell you an amazing story...

Dan


--- John Freer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Are you using the upgraded ones that have a chain in
> the rubber?
> 
> On 1/30/08, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > If you've had them all break then something in the
> exhaust system is
> > misaligned somewhere.



  

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[MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)

2008-01-31 Thread Gary Hurst
i grew up in queens, which is not exactly a hot spot of culture.  despite
the barbarism, there as still a few things we still value.  in terms of
food, pizza and deli are sacrosanct.  most queens pizza is a simply round
think pie that is very flexible, the crust being topped with a little sauce
and quite a bit of good mozzarella.  this is the paradigm for pizza to many
americans.   for those who prefer more bread, a so called "sicilian" pizza
is offered with, rectangular with an extremely thick crust.  both are darn
good!

one might think that having grown up with such a strong pizza tradition,
that i'd be some kind of new york pizza snob.  i am not though.  i recognize
that there are many styles of great pizza apart from the simple new york
style.  there is really so many possibilities because pizza isn't anything
other than topped bread.  for example, take a gander at this CT pizza from
the north end of the long island sound:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Whiteclampie.jpg

it is fantastic, no?

so with all this array of simply amazing possibilities, what do most
americans eat for pizza?  well, um, dominoes and pizza hut.  the frozen
stuff in the supermarket.

how can a nation this moronic rule the world?  the end must be near, no?
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Re: [MBZ] OT Bipolar GF? Was Admin

2008-01-31 Thread Wonko the Sane
Is he withdrawn or paranoid?  Security clearance?

Maybe he is just happy someone dropped out of the Presidential race.

On Jan 31, 2008 4:28 PM, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I just noticed a guy at work who is normally totally withdrawn, but the
> last
> two days has actually been charmingly communicative and even whistling at
> times (had to ask him to stop as it irritates me).  I wonder if he's on
> meds
> now?
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Bipolar GF? Was Admin

2008-01-31 Thread andrew strasfogel
I just noticed a guy at work who is normally totally withdrawn, but the last
two days has actually been charmingly communicative and even whistling at
times (had to ask him to stop as it irritates me).  I wonder if he's on meds
now?



On Jan 30, 2008 9:09 PM, LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Dan,
> I never realized how identical female abusers are to male abusers.
>  Amazing.
> Thx for sharing that - must have been a painful 7 years followed by an
> ecstatic 7 years. ;-)
>
> Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dan Weeks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 4:58 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] OT Bipolar GF? Was Admin
>
>
> >
> > On Jan 30, 2008, at 2:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> >>> In this current relationship, my GF has these mood swings and we
> >>> go from a
> >>> having a great experience with each other to "what the hell did I
> >>> say or
> >>> do to you?"...  defending my words or position or even my person.
> >>> Having
> >>> my face scratched, body punched, slapped.  I have had my clothes
> >>> ripped
> >>> off of my person.  She has gotten so low that she has asked me to
> >>> kill
> >>> her.  Then the next another day, she is on cloud #9.  For example,
> >>> everything is fine- let's go see about this or that and life is
> >>> fun.  I
> >>> think she gets off on these highs.  She will leave my house to run
> >>> errands
> >>> as happy as a lark...then she'll show up back at my house all
> >>> depressed
> >>> and life is all wrong: everything is shit, men are shit, life
> >>> sucks and
> >>> I'm such a bastard.
> >
> > Michael:
> >
> > My condolences to you. Very painful experience, as I know personally.
> > I was married to such a woman for 20 abusive years. I thought it
> > would get better; I thought it was all my fault; etc. It got worse.
> > And worse. Eventually, after a bunch of therapy and other
> > interventions, I realized it wasn't me, it was her. She was begged by
> > various therapists to get help; she didn't. As near as I can tell,
> > she's borderline. I got divorced 7 years ago, and the past 7 years
> > have been the happiest of my life. She has continued to deteriorate.
> >
> > Given my experience, I'd run, not walk,  away.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Middle-age is truly depressing, study finds

2008-01-31 Thread andrew strasfogel
They say that 60 is the new 80 (or 50.  I keep on forgetting!)

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> 
> > Middle age is truly miserable,
> 
> > "Only in their fifties do people emerge from this low period."
>
> I will be fourty nine next month. Only one more year of this crap. WOOHOO
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

2008-01-31 Thread Allan Streib
Fmiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Just remember that next time you think of using the space in front
> of a big truck!
>
> The driver has to juggle. 
>
> One - he has a _much_ slower acceleration than a 240 automatic with
> a stretched timing chain so he'll want to avoid slowing down just to
> speed up.
>
> Two - it takes a lot of space to stop even a half-loaded big truck.

Three -- if he hits you, you lose.

-- 
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Re: [MBZ] cheap e320

2008-01-31 Thread E M
I missed a local one last week.  '88 300E, 170,000 kms, full dealer service
and records, one owner.  sold for $1450 and went fast.  wonder why?  ll

Ed
300E

On 31/01/2008, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Yeah, the "cheap" 300E last week went for $1500 with a trashed
> engine.  Not cheap to me!
>
> At 02:42 PM 1/31/2008, you wrote:
> >Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> > >
> >
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-E320-1994-E320-Great-shape-Trans-gone-selling-for-parts_W0QQitemZ140203402840QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6335QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> >
> >Everything is cheap when there are 6 days left
> >
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Re: [MBZ] cheap e320

2008-01-31 Thread Loren Faeth
Yeah, the "cheap" 300E last week went for $1500 with a trashed 
engine.  Not cheap to me!

At 02:42 PM 1/31/2008, you wrote:
>Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> > 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-E320-1994-E320-Great-shape-Trans-gone-selling-for-parts_W0QQitemZ140203402840QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6335QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
>Everything is cheap when there are 6 days left
>
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Re: [MBZ] cheap e320

2008-01-31 Thread John Robbins
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-E320-1994-E320-Great-shape-Trans-gone-selling-for-parts_W0QQitemZ140203402840QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6335QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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Re: [MBZ] cheap e320

2008-01-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I dont think so but who knows

Loren Faeth wrote:
> Is that the same trans as a M103 powered 124?
> 
> At 02:16 PM 1/31/2008, you wrote:
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-E320-1994-E320-Great-shape-Trans-gone-selling-for-parts_W0QQitemZ140203402840QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6335QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>> --
>> Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
>>   94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic,
>>   91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
>>   84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
>>   76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
>> http://www.okiebenz.com
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  91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] cheap e320

2008-01-31 Thread Loren Faeth
Is that the same trans as a M103 powered 124?

At 02:16 PM 1/31/2008, you wrote:
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-E320-1994-E320-Great-shape-Trans-gone-selling-for-parts_W0QQitemZ140203402840QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6335QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>--
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>   94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic,
>   91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
>   84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
>   76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
>http://www.okiebenz.com
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Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

2008-01-31 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:46:54 -0600, Kaleb wrote:

> YEP!!  You leave enough distance between you and the car in
> front of you and never fails some asshole will come on over
> and you are right on their rear, you have to slow way down to
> give you more room.  Then, the cycle starts all over.
> 
> Hendrik & Fay wrote:

> > The problem is that if you leave reaction distance, some
> > clown will invariably jump lanes into it.
> > 
> > Hendrik

Just remember that next time you think of using the space in
front of a big truck!

The driver has to juggle. 

One - he has a _much_ slower acceleration than a 240 automatic
with a stretched timing chain so he'll want to avoid slowing
down just to speed up. 

Two - it takes a lot of space to stop even a half-loaded big
truck.

--Philip

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[MBZ] cheap wagon

2008-01-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1981-MERCEDES-300TD-WAGON-for-parts-or-restoration_W0QQitemZ220197501879QQihZ012QQcategoryZ10076QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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  91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] cheap e320

2008-01-31 Thread LWB250
For $200, maybe, but looking at telltale signs like
the tree's worth of pine needles in the engine
compartment and plenum, this car has not been well
cared for.  The comment about not having a Mercedes
mechanic in the area is a giveaway as well - who has
been servicing it up to now?

Two words: Parts car.

Dan

--- "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-E320-1994-E320-Great-shape-Trans-gone-selling-for-parts_W0QQitemZ140203402840QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6335QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
> -- 



  

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[MBZ] cheap e320

2008-01-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-E320-1994-E320-Great-shape-Trans-gone-selling-for-parts_W0QQitemZ140203402840QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6335QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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  94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic,
  91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Computers

2008-01-31 Thread Harry Watkins
My first computer was a Sinclare (sp).  You had to plug it into a tape
player for storage.  I built a Heath Kit all-in-one for my second.  Enjoyed
building it more than using it.

Harry

On Jan 30, 2008 9:17 AM, Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > My first computer, a PC with a 40MB HD  purchased in 1990 was $10K,
>
> Mine was an 1802 single board computer with 256 bytes of RAM.
> It was $99, as I recall.  Gobs of fun at the time.  I still have
> it, it worked the last time I fired it up.  Its special talent
> was its video output port.  (Block graphics, not text.)  I
> think I might have 4k of RAM in it now, I'm forgetting details.
>
> -- Jim
>
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Re: [MBZ] I just got this spam...

2008-01-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I suspect you are right.

Rich Thomas wrote:
> on another email address.  Has some listers listed as recipients, making 
> me think someone has a case of spambot on their machine, or someone on 
> the list got their address book intercepted, or something.  Also has 
> russian name for sender.
> 
> --R
> 
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  94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic,
  91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] Why? - speaking of parts ...

2008-01-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well I get 2-300 a day from okiebenz and related stuff, I am on just 
about every other mb list (well, there are 2 others).  The main other 
traffic list is the hitler list, but like I said I just skim thru it. 
Even it does not usually get near the traffic we get here.  For example, 
this list has had over 88k messages since it was started.  In the same 
time period the re list has had 63k.  Just fyi

Bill wrote:
> Kaleb - I have a time trying to keep up with two lists and I'm retired [I
> was 400+ behind this morning].  How on earth do you keep up with all of them
> and a job too?
> BillR

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  94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic,
  91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com

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Re: [MBZ] Projekt- Wagon victory

2008-01-31 Thread Christopher McCann
There are 4 SD's in local PNP type junkyards...thinking about collecting the 
IP's for a rainy day...and the tranny'sand...engine rebuild projects

seriously, it's such a shame to see these cars there. One has an engine bay 
covered in oil and the oil cooler hoses had radiator hose over them held on 
with hose clamps - what a shame!

Chris



wilton strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That's great, Chris!  'Hard to 
beat that price for an IP.  Congratulations!

Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] Why?

2008-01-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I paid 4k for my 94 E420 and it has 114k on it.  Has TONS of power AND 
gets 25 or so mpg.  Problem is, right now it wont idle but I just have 
to get around to fixing that.

Gary Thompson wrote:
> Kinda makes you cry when a nice 1994-95 W124 is cheaper than a rice
> burner, don't it. I can buy another E320 with lower miles for what it
> would cost me to fix the *%^_)*# A/C evaporator on the one I got.
> 
> Was trying to help my daughter get a new car, and she was looking at a
> Toyota Corolla that wasn't half the car for a lot more money.
> 
> To add to the lunacy, there's a guy here on Craigslist selling a
> fairly well taken care of 127K miles 1994 E420 for $4000 while some
> goober wants $2500 for a "biodiesel ready" 1983 300D with 330K miles
> and a bad transmission. Doesn't even run! I like diesels too, but a
> $500 car is a $500 car. With diesel running 20-25 cents a gallon more
> than super unleaded, the E420 is actually just as cheap to operate.
> 
> 
> Gary Thompson
> 1995 E320
> 
> 
> On 1/31/08, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I try to skim thru everyday just to see if somebody is looking for parts
>> I can sell them, or has a great deal on a car.  That is where I bought a
>> $2000 94 E420 a while back.
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  94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic,
  91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Question about off topic questions....

2008-01-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Perhaps annoying was a little to harsh.  Perhaps I was just on edge from 
working all night then see the same post several times for help.  Just 
do as instructed and maybe some help can be found.

RICHARD FIne wrote:
> I'm sorry that my post was "anoying" but, I was asking a sincere question, I 
> did not "know" any other means to get it answered... all I was asking for was 
> a response other than, you message got through, which obviously I could see 
> from my own email.
> I have seen many many "anoying" posts here, mine was a sincere question for 
> help...
>  
> Sorry I asked..
>  
> Rick"Message: 6Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:50:06 -0600From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: [MBZ] Again, I ask, why are the majority of 
> my postsbouncing back?To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Content-Type: 
> text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Richard, quite frankly these 
> posts are starting get annoying"
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  94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic,
  91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
http://www.okiebenz.com

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Re: [MBZ] got some spam with listers on it

2008-01-31 Thread John Robbins
Rich Thomas wrote:
> I tried to forward it to the list but I guess it was intercepted.  
> Anyway, below is the address list it was sent to, a lot of listers on 
> it.  Did someone's machine get spambotted or did someone just snag some 
> message sent to/from the lists?  Interestingly enough, my email address 
> on the list and that it came to is not the one I use for the list.

 From looking at the emails, my guess is the emails came from the 
mbz.org archives.

John


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[MBZ] got some spam with listers on it

2008-01-31 Thread Rich Thomas
I tried to forward it to the list but I guess it was intercepted.  
Anyway, below is the address list it was sent to, a lot of listers on 
it.  Did someone's machine get spambotted or did someone just snag some 
message sent to/from the lists?  Interestingly enough, my email address 
on the list and that it came to is not the one I use for the list.

It had a russian character set "from" sender and was something about 
gambling games or something.  Suggest everyone scan their computers for 
spambots.

--R


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[MBZ] Projeckt- Wagon victory

2008-01-31 Thread wilton strickland
That's great, Chris!  'Hard to beat that price for an IP.  Congratulations!

Wilton

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[MBZ] Projeckt-Wagen 4 VICTORY!!!

2008-01-31 Thread Christopher McCann
our beautiful "cream-puff" '84 300Dt (not running, which we paid $600 for) made 
victory laps around the neighborhood at 1 AM last night. Replaced the IP (got 
one from an SD at local U pick It for $5 (yes FIVE)), then timed it (took a 
while to figure that out...used the drip tube method) - and the rest was just 
great! Additional cost - IP gasket $1.84.

It was a good day.

Chris





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-1992 350 Ram Wagon, 1 Ton, 58K mi, "Der Abschleppwagen"
& '75 240D, '80 300SD, '85 300Dt & '84 300Dt
-Anke & Sammy von der Burg Austerlitz (GSDs) & Nanook (Siberian Husky)
   
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Re: [MBZ] You asked for it

2008-01-31 Thread E M
I was going to comment on that the other night, but didn't get around to
it.  You're right, for most trips, if you want to save time, it has to be
over somewhat of a distance, and you really have to put your foot down.  If
you do the math, driving an hour at 70 mph, or upping it to 80 mph doesn't
make much difference.  Having said that, I'm not one who thinks speed is
evil, and I'll do it whenever the conditions allow, just for the pleasure it
brings.

Some like to cruise, some like to fly.  If we all keep our eyes open, off
the phones and keep to the correct lanes, there's room on the roads for
everyone. :-)

Ed
300E

On 31/01/2008, LWB250 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> While I would say that most of the drivers around here
> are pretty decent, it's the ones who are too busy
> yakking on the phone, texting, etc., that piss me off.
>   These are the ones who usually creep into your lane
> then whip back over when you tap your horn.
>
> As a biker and driver, I always have my 3 second (or
> more) cushion in front, and rarely if ever exceed the
> speed limit.  Yeah, to some people it's a PITA, but if
> they ever sat down to do the math the 5 or 10 miles
> above the limit they want to do doesn't save them a
> significant amount of time, and increases the
> likelihood of an accident.
>
> When I'm on my bike I'm especially careful.  For those
> of you who ride, check out this guy's Web site for
> motorcycle safety information - lots of good/practical
> ideas and observations regarding bike safety and
> riding in general:
>
> http://www.msgroup.org/default.aspx
>
> Dan (who was riding today in the near 80F degree
> temperatures!)
>
>
> --- Bill  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Being mixed in with mostly friendly drivers is one
> > of the best things about
> > living in Jacksonville [other than being able to
> > live with my wife, of
> > course...].  Coming from South Florida where drivers
> > are aggressive and mean
> > this place is great.  It is easier to get out of our
> > road onto the main road
> > if the traffic is backed up, because the next car
> > almost always will let you
> > out.  You can even get across 2 or 3 lanes of
> > traffic to turn left if you
> > need to [I have never tried that, but I see it all
> > the time].  Yes, it
> > occasionally makes me several seconds or even a
> > minute later getting
> > somewhere. I can live with that. That being said,
> > when someone tries to stop
> > in the middle of a busy road that is just plain dumb
> > - though legal.  I'll
> > let anyone out if it is safe to do so - usually when
> > coming to or leaving a
> > stop light.
> > BillR
> > Jacksonville FL
> > 1981 300SD 298892 miles yesterday
>
>
>
>
>   
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Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

2008-01-31 Thread E M
You have to be careful playing those games at speed.  A guy who wants to get
past, always will in the end, and then, if he decides it's pay back time,
things can get ugly.  Before pulling out to pass, I always have a good look,
to see what's coming up.  Regardless of how fast I'm going, before I pull
out, if I see a guy closing at a higher rate than me, I give them right of
way to overtake first.  When I overtake  I tend to do it with some speed
differential.  I'm not one to creep past a car in the right lane.  I read a
great book years ago by Stirling Moss, which he wrote in the 50's I think,
but still a lot of stuff that can be applied today.  eg, when over taking a
car on a two lane country road, back off a little, and have a run at the car
you're overtaking, so as to pass quickly and reduce the time you're exposed
to oncoming traffic.  Simple common sense stuff, but how often have we seen
someone pull out to pass on a two lane, only to see them trying to overtake
too many cars at once, and then see them run out of time?  The slower your
car, the more you have to plan ahead.  Often, speed and power are your best
friend. ;-)

When done right, driving is still a beautiful form of art.

Ed
911SC

On 31/01/2008, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Tailgating is the quickest way to get under my skin when driving.  I don't
> care if you do stupid things when driving, but tailgating starts to endanger
> my car and my passengers.  That is crossing the line
>
> Uusually I drive 5-10 MPH over posted speed limits on the interstate and
> very much dislike someone riding my bumper at 80 in the left lane.  I use
> aggressive tactics when the person comes within 1 car-length.  This includes
> abruptly slowing to match the speed of the car in the right lane.  This
> speed will be maintained until the offender backs off at least 2-3 car
> lengths at which point I will speed up and finish passing the car on the
> right.  Flashing your brights at me will lengthen the time taken to move
> ahead and over to the right.
>
> Another thing I tend to enjoy is closely watching the tailgater for that
> impatient move to pass me on the right.  As soon as they look over their
> shoulder and make that move to the right, my right turn signal comes on and
> I "innocently" make my move to the right lane.  This always adds to their
> level of anger and increases their blood pressure.
>
> My previous '83 SD would spit a bit of wet substance out the rear under
> full throttle and that was a WONDERFUL anti-tailgating feature.  More than
> once a person had backed off my bumper while running their wipers to remove
> this mist
>
> Luther, wishing for rotten egg or skunk sent to be released from my rear
> bumper
>
>
> On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:59:15 -0600, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > Simple question: If a car in front of you is going slower than you want
> to
> > go, do you consider it your right to tailgate them?
> > Not a trick question. I just want input as the the current mindset out
> > there. It may help me understand.
> >
> > It used to be that, in my circle of friends and acquaintances,
> tailgating
> > was a sign of aggression. People got into fistfights and sometimes shot
> for
> > it. But now it seems as I'm tailgated every single time I drive, it
> isn't
> > personal. The times I've been able to confront someone for doing it,
> most of
> > them have seemed genuinely clueless why I was mad at them.
> >
> > To answer the next logical question: I don't drive all that slowly -
> just in
> > a sane fashion somewhere around the speed limit, or maybe 5 above or 5
> below
> > depending on conditions. (talking about in-town here).
> >
> > And I also do not accelerate that fast because of: Fuel costs,
> Environmental
> > Issues, Wear and tear on vehicle, and just generally not wishing to be a
> > pedal-mashing, non-thinking idiot that stabs the accelerator by default.
> >
> > What say all?
> >
> > Brian
> >
>
>
> --
> Luther   KB5QHUAlma, Ark
> '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case
> '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi)
> '82 300CD (166 kmi)
> '82 300D  (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold
> '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine
>
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Re: [MBZ] You asked for it

2008-01-31 Thread LWB250
While I would say that most of the drivers around here
are pretty decent, it's the ones who are too busy
yakking on the phone, texting, etc., that piss me off.
 These are the ones who usually creep into your lane
then whip back over when you tap your horn.

As a biker and driver, I always have my 3 second (or
more) cushion in front, and rarely if ever exceed the
speed limit.  Yeah, to some people it's a PITA, but if
they ever sat down to do the math the 5 or 10 miles
above the limit they want to do doesn't save them a
significant amount of time, and increases the
likelihood of an accident.

When I'm on my bike I'm especially careful.  For those
of you who ride, check out this guy's Web site for
motorcycle safety information - lots of good/practical
ideas and observations regarding bike safety and
riding in general:

http://www.msgroup.org/default.aspx

Dan (who was riding today in the near 80F degree
temperatures!)


--- Bill  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Being mixed in with mostly friendly drivers is one
> of the best things about
> living in Jacksonville [other than being able to
> live with my wife, of
> course...].  Coming from South Florida where drivers
> are aggressive and mean
> this place is great.  It is easier to get out of our
> road onto the main road
> if the traffic is backed up, because the next car
> almost always will let you
> out.  You can even get across 2 or 3 lanes of
> traffic to turn left if you
> need to [I have never tried that, but I see it all
> the time].  Yes, it
> occasionally makes me several seconds or even a
> minute later getting
> somewhere. I can live with that. That being said,
> when someone tries to stop
> in the middle of a busy road that is just plain dumb
> - though legal.  I'll
> let anyone out if it is safe to do so - usually when
> coming to or leaving a
> stop light.
> BillR
> Jacksonville FL
> 1981 300SD 298892 miles yesterday



  

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[MBZ] I just got this spam...

2008-01-31 Thread Rich Thomas
on another email address.  Has some listers listed as recipients, making 
me think someone has a case of spambot on their machine, or someone on 
the list got their address book intercepted, or something.  Also has 
russian name for sender.

--R

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Re: [MBZ] Why? - speaking of parts ...

2008-01-31 Thread Bill
Kaleb - I have a time trying to keep up with two lists and I'm retired [I
was 400+ behind this morning].  How on earth do you keep up with all of them
and a job too?
BillR

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Bill 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 12:19 PM
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why? - speaking of parts ...

Since you brought up the subject of parts, I need the spring base for the
front seat on my '81 300SD [I think those are the same on both sides] if you
have one - along with my under door light 
BillR

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:19 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why?

I try to skim thru everyday just to see if somebody is looking for parts 


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Re: [MBZ] Why?

2008-01-31 Thread Gary Thompson
Kinda makes you cry when a nice 1994-95 W124 is cheaper than a rice
burner, don't it. I can buy another E320 with lower miles for what it
would cost me to fix the *%^_)*# A/C evaporator on the one I got.

Was trying to help my daughter get a new car, and she was looking at a
Toyota Corolla that wasn't half the car for a lot more money.

To add to the lunacy, there's a guy here on Craigslist selling a
fairly well taken care of 127K miles 1994 E420 for $4000 while some
goober wants $2500 for a "biodiesel ready" 1983 300D with 330K miles
and a bad transmission. Doesn't even run! I like diesels too, but a
$500 car is a $500 car. With diesel running 20-25 cents a gallon more
than super unleaded, the E420 is actually just as cheap to operate.


Gary Thompson
1995 E320


On 1/31/08, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I try to skim thru everyday just to see if somebody is looking for parts
> I can sell them, or has a great deal on a car.  That is where I bought a
> $2000 94 E420 a while back.

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Re: [MBZ] all inclusive

2008-01-31 Thread Fmiser
> Wonko wrote < good thing>> I've often thought how much better off we'd all
> be if lawmakers took 5 or 10 years "off" - an extended
> vacation perhaps.  No bills would be passed - unless some
> emergency arose - which is defined by national concensus. ;-)
> 
> I know, it'd never work.
> 
> Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)

How about "Every law is null and void 10 years after enacted."
Then the lawmakers would be busy reenacting the important old
laws instead of inventing new ones.

It would never work either...

-- Philip

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[MBZ] OT Timothy Robinson and a Betamax machine

2008-01-31 Thread Fmiser
The direct emails seem to be getting lost, so I'll try through
the list.

And, note the clear "OT" in the subject. *chuckle*

So Tim, any success in finding the old Beta VCR?

--   Philip, in a Missouri blizzard
(translation: A light breeze during a snow flurry)

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[MBZ] OT: Question about off topic questions....

2008-01-31 Thread RICHARD FIne

I'm sorry that my post was "anoying" but, I was asking a sincere question, I 
did not "know" any other means to get it answered... all I was asking for was a 
response other than, you message got through, which obviously I could see from 
my own email.
I have seen many many "anoying" posts here, mine was a sincere question for 
help...
 
Sorry I asked..
 
Rick"Message: 6Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:50:06 -0600From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: [MBZ] Again, I ask, why are the majority of my 
postsbouncing back?To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Content-Type: text/plain; 
charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Richard, quite frankly these posts are 
starting get annoying"
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