Re: [MBZ] MG's
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 7:51 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Wonko. The one I had the ride in in 1954 was a TD!! An MG diesel wagon, then? ;) I'm picturing an MGBGT with an engine swap from a 190D of some kind... Alex Chamberlain ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 9/11 inside job? [was: GWB]
Perhaps not little Hitlers but incompetent fools who shoot first and ask question later. Basically I guess they where told what they wanted to hear, who told them is anyones guess. The Israeli secret service? An insider in Iraq on the CIA payroll? Or maybe it was just made up out of an uneducated guess, with the attitude that once it starts it can't be stopped. Anyway hopefully in the near future there will be a Democratic President in the white house and a lot of those hawks will be put out to pasture. Hendrik LarryT wrote: You do know there *were* WMDs in Iraq? Poison weapons by the thousands and a proven track record of using them against his own people.The nuke story came from hussien - he wanted to world to *think* he was on a nuclear building program - especially in the arab world who are pretty each to fool - the fact the western worlds so-called intelligence failed (once again) is no reason to paint the whole administration as little hitlers. You've accepted too much of the lefts propaganda without questioning it. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 9/11 inside job? [was: GWB]
Steve MacSween wrote: And forget using the word fire, unless you have a compelling reason to argue why this was the first steel-framed building in history to COLLAPSE from fire damage, and not even an engulfing fire at that. The first steel-framed building in history - where do you get that? You seem to think there's something unique about that. It's not. Somewhere I've got a picture of a burned out barn with steel beams drooped over a wooden beam. The wooden beam retained some measure of its strength, holding itself and the steel beams up. The steel beams drooped like spaghetti under their own weight when they got hot. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 9/11 inside job? [was: GWB]
I'm not sure if it's still true but I've seen them spraying asbestoses (!) on structural steel beams in large buildings to prevent collapse in fire. Pete -- Original message -- From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steve MacSween wrote: And forget using the word fire, unless you have a compelling reason to argue why this was the first steel-framed building in history to COLLAPSE from fire damage, and not even an engulfing fire at that. The first steel-framed building in history - where do you get that? You seem to think there's something unique about that. It's not. Somewhere I've got a picture of a burned out barn with steel beams drooped over a wooden beam. The wooden beam retained some measure of its strength, holding itself and the steel beams up. The steel beams drooped like spaghetti under their own weight when they got hot. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 9/11 inside job? [was: GWB]
Mitch Haley wrote: Somewhere I've got a picture of a burned out barn with steel beams drooped over a wooden beam. http://www.softwood.org/AITC_eVersion/EN/p3.htm ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Engine swaps, was Car let-down
Picture flared fenders, small chrome tube bumpers, welded shut doors and stripped right down to just what is needed to be street legal. Going to be green and yellow and called the garden snake because it will look like a miniature AC Cobra. -Original Message- Date: Monday, June 30, 2008 12:50:28 am To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Engine swaps, was Car let-down Cool! It will be a fun car! On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 6:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice.I have a rubber bumper midget sitting in the barn waiting for time to put the 300HP 215 olds motor in it. Mike -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT cummins questions
ok. BTW, this one says intercooled on the top of the engine I think Mitch Haley wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: What were those older cummins HP wise, seems Im thinking they were only like 160hp or so. Im guess there are ways to turn that up. Thing I like about it is no computers I assume. Would be nice for a beater truck. If it's non intercooled, 160 stock sounds about right. IIRC, the non intercooled engines had higher compression, larger injectors (but a weaker head because the injector holes were larger) and impressive fuel economy. If I find my compilation of saved TDR forum topics I can email a zipfile to you. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 MBZ 300 D Turbo Excessive Negative Camber
I have four new springs that a friend bought for a 300E and never used. Let me know if you are interested and I'm sure you can get them at a good price. Hopefully there are numbers on them to see if they will fit. I have no idea if they would help your problem though. Harry On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Ken Rushing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I jacked it up again, removed the wheels and loosened all the bolts (both ends) enough so the bolt moved freely and then jacked up the spring link to the normal level height and tightened all the bolts. And the new links were Lemforder from Rusty (along with the new bolts and busings). I can only tell a slight difference on the driver's side rear but the passenger side rear still looks bad. Would new springs make a difference? Thanks for your help. Ken ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 9/11 inside job? [was: GWB]
It's common to coat steel with a mixture of fire retardent materials during construction - in refineries it's code to protect stee up to a certain elevation - 10 perhaps - it;s been a long time since I was involved in that. They spray it on with a air powered gun and it dries in place. Perhaps it's code to protect steel in high-rise buildings? The key though it fire retardent - not fire proof - nothing is fireproof forever given the right circumstances. In refineries it;s intended to allow time for personel to escape and to vent some lines carrying even more explosive/flammable materials near the fire. As mentioned, the steel will sag initially as it melts - then the bolts give way and the weight brings everything down. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 7:10 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 9/11 inside job? [was: GWB] I'm not sure if it's still true but I've seen them spraying asbestoses (!) on structural steel beams in large buildings to prevent collapse in fire. Pete -- Original message -- From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steve MacSween wrote: And forget using the word fire, unless you have a compelling reason to argue why this was the first steel-framed building in history to COLLAPSE from fire damage, and not even an engulfing fire at that. The first steel-framed building in history - where do you get that? You seem to think there's something unique about that. It's not. Somewhere I've got a picture of a burned out barn with steel beams drooped over a wooden beam. The wooden beam retained some measure of its strength, holding itself and the steel beams up. The steel beams drooped like spaghetti under their own weight when they got hot. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MG's
1st came the MG-TC (post WW2 at least - many more pre-war) then the TD which had more normal sized auto tires - the TC had tall elegant spindly wheels (16 IIRC). The MG-TF came out in 55 I believe and had beautifully sculpted fenders with the headlight faired into it. The radiator was also a little smaller and raked back slightly. The MGA came out in 57 I believe and was a fully enclosed body. The MGB was released in 1963 and stayed in production until 1980. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MG's OK, that answers it, then. I 've wondered for the last 50+ years if that were an A or whatever? It had cycle fenders. So, it was a TF? Thanks. Well, I wanted one, anway. Wilton - Original Message - From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MG's Minor point - the MGA came out in 1955. http://www.mgcars.org.uk/mga.html It was streamlined, vs. the cycle fender'd TF that was made in '54. On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 6:45 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I was 'bout 19 and had little more than good health, good intelligence, a strong sense of integity, tenacity, persistance and determination, a rich guy (well, his son, anyway) on the hall in my college dorm took me for a short ride in his '53/54 MGA. 'Sure sounded sweet. I've wanted one ever since. Wilton -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rack and Pinion Issues
Robert Rentfro wrote: Since no one on our little list seems to know about the steering malady I described on my '05 E320 (locking up in low speed turns over bumps), I put a post on the MBCA forum. Some dude there says there are some issues with the rack and pinion on W211s and stealerships are replacing them before the warranty goes out. No, but I'm very interested now. Are there any other symptoms? Will they replace it if it is out of warranty? I've got 77k on mine now... Whats the link to the thread? Thanks! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy
Do the center mounts for the door armrests come separately? I've got broken ones on the front and rear door. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 8:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy oh yea Bill R wrote: While you are in the dismantling mood don't forget my seat spring base and under door light. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 3:08 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy Im working on it today actually Luther wrote: or pay me to do it... On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 12:09:47 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as soon as I get that engine swap done Luther wrote: Which will be done when?? :) Luther On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 11:57:15 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Im going to include this in the okiebenz.com tech articles -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rack and Pinion Issues
John Robbins wrote: No, but I'm very interested now. Are there any other symptoms? Will they replace it if it is out of warranty? I've got 77k on mine now... Probably not since you are not the original owner. But if you let the district service manager know you intend to file a NHTSA safety complaint if they don't fix it for you... I'm not sure what strategy I'd take there, after asking politely to have the defect cured. Would you threaten them with the 4x4 upside the head, or just file the complaint and let them show NHTSA that they are fixing your dangerous problem? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] NeoCons (was 9/11)
A former roommate of mine flunked out of VMI and went to 'Nam. He came home and became a straight A student [and is now a Veterinarian]. His comment about going to 'Nam is that the went to serve his country and his country played him for a fool. As a VMI student he was about as gung-ho USA and Army as one could get going into the experience. Doesn't sound like things have changed all that much, so I am wondering how returning vets today will feel in years to come. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve MacSween Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 11:12 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] NeoCons (was 9/11) on 6/29/08 22:48, Gary Hurst at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i think i agree with the swine, but many of our listers have a very different view of vietnam part deux Remember, some of the worst fallout from 'Nam happened years after the war was over and more ugly facts gradually emerged. A friend's father was a special forces officer who did black ops (incursions into Cambodia, etc.) during Nam. Years later, when he learned how badly he and his brother soldiers had been lied to, he renounced his U.S. citizenship and came to Canada. He did not set foot on U.S. soil up until his death and remained unspeakably bitter about the things he had done out of his loyalty to his country, but on the orders of evil liars. He did, however, wear his dogtags every day of his life. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GWB
Gary wrote: the story is kind of silly. either we conclude that our president and everyone around him, as well as the entire air defense system, is completely inept or retarded or we conclude that it was an inside job. which works best for you? First of all I don't understand the point of this thread. Was it jut to bash President Bush? At least some of the other Off Topic political threads have some current news. Some people really hate President Bush, that is not a newsflash. Just to clarify your argument. You are arguing that 9/11 was President Bush's fault - either because he is incompetent or he was behind it? Do you feel the same way about the 1993 World Trade Center Bombing? What about the attack on the USS Cole? Was Clinton incompetent or did he plan it? What about the Okla City bombing? Was Bill behind that? How about the bombing of the LA times building in 1910? Was that Taft's fault? What about the Unabomber? (1978-1995) I guess that Carter, Reagan, Bush (GHWB), and Clinton are all at fault for him? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MG's
A young one, are you? I was turning 5, though a couple of weeks earlier. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 11:19 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] MG's I turned 2 Christmas Eve of that same year. And I am a grandfather. :-) On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 10:51 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Wonko. The one I had the ride in in 1954 was a TD!! Wilton - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 10:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MG's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MG_(car)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MG_%28car %29 Mine was a 1971 MGB. On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wasn't there a TD, also? Wilton -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] NeoCons (was 9/11)
the only vets from iraq i know are the guys who hang around the gun range and they tend not to be particularly critical of the mission in iraq. they are mostly special forces/marines guys and they appear to simply enjoy soldier life. On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A former roommate of mine flunked out of VMI and went to 'Nam. He came home and became a straight A student [and is now a Veterinarian]. His comment about going to 'Nam is that the went to serve his country and his country played him for a fool. As a VMI student he was about as gung-ho USA and Army as one could get going into the experience. Doesn't sound like things have changed all that much, so I am wondering how returning vets today will feel in years to come. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve MacSween Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 11:12 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] NeoCons (was 9/11) on 6/29/08 22:48, Gary Hurst at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i think i agree with the swine, but many of our listers have a very different view of vietnam part deux Remember, some of the worst fallout from 'Nam happened years after the war was over and more ugly facts gradually emerged. A friend's father was a special forces officer who did black ops (incursions into Cambodia, etc.) during Nam. Years later, when he learned how badly he and his brother soldiers had been lied to, he renounced his U.S. citizenship and came to Canada. He did not set foot on U.S. soil up until his death and remained unspeakably bitter about the things he had done out of his loyalty to his country, but on the orders of evil liars. He did, however, wear his dogtags every day of his life. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MG's
Both of you have me beat - I'm a 1959 model. But I'm a grandfather, does that count? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill R Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 9:07 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] MG's A young one, are you? I was turning 5, though a couple of weeks earlier. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 11:19 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] MG's I turned 2 Christmas Eve of that same year. And I am a grandfather. :-) On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 10:51 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Wonko. The one I had the ride in in 1954 was a TD!! Wilton - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 10:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MG's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MG_(car)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MG_%28car %29 Mine was a 1971 MGB. On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wasn't there a TD, also? Wilton -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.4.3/1525 - Release Date: 6/29/2008 3:09 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.4.3/1525 - Release Date: 6/29/2008 3:09 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rack and Pinion Issues
Bob, ? I had asked the list if your car (and the 85) had a rack and pinion, but got no response. ? The first thing I would do is change the power steering fluid.? If MB doesn't have a recommended synthetic, I would use Mobil 1 ATF. ? Jim in Phoenix -Original Message- From: John Robbins lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; To: Mercedes Discussion List lt;mercedes@okiebenz.comgt; Sent: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 7:51 am Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rack and Pinion Issues Robert Rentfro wrote: gt; Since no one on our little list seems to know about the steering malady I gt; described on my '05 E320 (locking up in low speed turns over bumps), I put a gt; post on the MBCA forum. Some dude there says there are some issues with the gt; rack and pinion on W211s and stealerships are replacing them before the gt; warranty goes out. No, but I'm very interested now. Are there any other symptoms? Will they replace it if it is out of warranty? I've got 77k on mine now...Whats the link to the thread? Thanks! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GWB
Rusty wrote: I think you are insane. But I have for years. Now we all know it is true. Agreed. Well said, Rusty. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GWB
Peter wrote: I'm still quite suspicious of the exact timing of the event. I'm quite sure the Nixon era rejects running things would take undue advantage anyway, but they all were raised up, so to speak, in a culture where skullduggery and illegal acts were not just accepted but expected in order to win. I'm not convinced, and probably never will be, that the attack was allowed to happen for political purposes. Just a suspicion, no proof, but why wouldn't Rove do this? Nothing else ever seemed to be beyond him. You have got to be kidding. Do you also believe that we never landed on the moon? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GWB
Scott wrote: This comment reflects great ignorance of the functions and capabilities of the current air defense and air traffic control systems. Until the SECOND impact, the worst-case theory was a simple hijacking gone wrong. Actually, Scott, I think it could be said more simply. I would say it this way, This comment reflects great ignorance. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GWB
i think that dubya and his crew would be more than capable of engineering 9/11. my impression is that they are absolutely amoral and capable of anything at all. On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary wrote: the story is kind of silly. either we conclude that our president and everyone around him, as well as the entire air defense system, is completely inept or retarded or we conclude that it was an inside job. which works best for you? First of all I don't understand the point of this thread. Was it jut to bash President Bush? At least some of the other Off Topic political threads have some current news. Some people really hate President Bush, that is not a newsflash. Just to clarify your argument. You are arguing that 9/11 was President Bush's fault - either because he is incompetent or he was behind it? Do you feel the same way about the 1993 World Trade Center Bombing? What about the attack on the USS Cole? Was Clinton incompetent or did he plan it? What about the Okla City bombing? Was Bill behind that? How about the bombing of the LA times building in 1910? Was that Taft's fault? What about the Unabomber? (1978-1995) I guess that Carter, Reagan, Bush (GHWB), and Clinton are all at fault for him? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GWB
how many hijackings on the same morning does it take before one suspects that something might be up? On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott wrote: This comment reflects great ignorance of the functions and capabilities of the current air defense and air traffic control systems. Until the SECOND impact, the worst-case theory was a simple hijacking gone wrong. Actually, Scott, I think it could be said more simply. I would say it this way, This comment reflects great ignorance. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Recirculation Air Vacuum Module? 300D Turbo
What car? I got 6 vac pods for my 87 300D from Rusty coupla weeks ago. Wilton - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 11:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Recirculation Air Vacuum Module? 300D Turbo Rusty seems to be slow at reading his email. Best thing to do is call. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 300D Turbo; Anyone know where to get a Diaphram KIT or vacuum module for recirculating door; looked up no one has it shown or listed; all the others but not this one e-mailed buymbparts.com got NO response from them i can't read all the #s on these; this is the one on top, all the way under right side of dash with 1 bend on end of rod that goes in recirculating flap; if i had a new diaphram or the diaphram from the center flap; might work; # is 062100169 these #s may not all be correct; maybe buy a cheaper $22 center flap vac. mod. use diaphram if it FITS?, looks same size; instead of a $65 other vac. mod. Thanks for any help, Steve Click here to save cash and find low rates on auto loans. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3ndyHxwk9jOzAe3qSzGpahq1B7 RJTdPhLUDy771CbFXlwSlv/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Georgia island
Rusty (and others with knowledge), I am going to St. Simons (Island off Georgia coast) this week for a short vacation. My wife and I are meeting some of her family there. Evidently, the Island has a big 4th of July party. What is it like? Does anyone know anything about it? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Georgia island
personally, i'd avoid any tall buildings there at least until the end of next january. On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rusty (and others with knowledge), I am going to St. Simons (Island off Georgia coast) this week for a short vacation. My wife and I are meeting some of her family there. Evidently, the Island has a big 4th of July party. What is it like? Does anyone know anything about it? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Ballsy? Or stupid?
I have been spending the last two months working on our boat. (A gift from my father, I now think of it as something like a State visit by the King + entourage in the Middle Ages: as much punishment as honor! See: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/boat.html if you care about details.) Today I pulled out its 18-gallon gas tank. It had some exterior rust, nothing too bad I thought, and the interior, though very oily, seemed clean. I rinsed it out with gasoline, and found no chunks of rust, etc. I started wire-brushing it off prior to painting. Then I found the hole. A screwdriver went right through! It's where it rested on the 2x4 for support, naturally. Oh crap. Well, I've heard about this trick and always wondered if it worked. I got out the riding lawn mower and wedged the (ruined) fill hose from the tank into the exhaust grille, such that lots came through the hose. I'd already removed the gauge sender, so when I hooked the hose to the tank I got a lot of exhaust puffing out all four holes. (The sender, vent, pickup, and Hole.) I taped over the big sender hole, and left it on a fast idle while I got out the welder. Exhaust was puffing out of all the holes. I cut a strip of new steel sufficient to cover the hole and some suspect area near it. Party time! I clamped the steel in place and tack-welded it. As I welded down the one (outside) edge I started to get a lot of smokey-looking fumes blowing out of the area. This was the vaporized oil and gasoline coming out of the tank through the Hole and around the steel patch. Once I saw that I'd stop until the fumes subsided. As I went around the outside I could see fumes blow out some of the already-accomplished welds, so I periodically stopped and ground off the bead and re-welded it. (As I'd already learned doing the Unimog fuel tank once upon a time, this is crucial to getting a good seal.) Eventually I had a bead all the way around it that didn't 'leak' fumes. I ground it down and touched up any poor-looking spots, then finished the grind, followed by a wire brushing. All this time the mower was putt-putting away, and the rubber filler hose was getting rather hot. I sluiced water over the repair and didn't see any bubbles, so I wire-brushed it again to dry it off. I then set the tank in the sun to finish drying and put away the mower. Then I rattle-canned primer on the brushed end of the tank. Success? It appears so. At least I didn't die. Welding on a gas tank is rather scary. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 9/11 inside job? [was: GWB]
Mitch Haley wrote: Somewhere I've got a picture of a burned out barn with steel beams drooped over a wooden beam. If you read the article that Mitch referenced, you'll see further down the difference between a glue-lam wooden composite beam and a steel beam...making the point that steel can and does fail before some wood structures. I did some googling and found the following excellent discussion by a fire department expert. Based on my somewhat limited knowledge of structural engineering (I'm a petroleum engineer by training, but I had to take all the same core courses as the structural guys, and I my Dad was a structural engineer), this guy knows what he is talking about. One of his points is that the steel trusses were the weak points, and all fire departments know that. Once one part of a truss fails, the rest of the truss can fail quickly as undamaged parts have to pick up the loads of other parts that failed. He also mentions the problems with failed insulation on the steel, I have seen mentioned several times in discussions about WTC. Of course, that was partially due to issues with asbestos, and you can just imagine the restrictions in NYC for dealing with asbestos. Bottom line, I'm tired of hearing about conspiracies other than the one where 19 terrorists climbed on board undefended airliners, slit the throats of women, and bravely drove those planes into buildings that housed over 3000 civilians. As an aside...we're visiting in-laws in Oklahoma City and yesterday went to the site of the 1995 bombing. I'm sorry they executed Tim McVeighI would rather they caged him up and kept him at the site so people could kick his ass. Royce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Engine swaps, was Car let-down
Be sure to send pictures when it's done, if not during the process. On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 7:22 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Picture flared fenders, small chrome tube bumpers, welded shut doors and stripped right down to just what is needed to be street legal. Going to be green and yellow and called the garden snake because it will look like a miniature AC Cobra. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 MBZ 300 D Turbo Excessive Negative Camber
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 6:08 AM, Harry Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have four new springs that a friend bought for a 300E and never used. Let me know if you are interested and I'm sure you can get them at a good price. Hopefully there are numbers on them to see if they will fit. I have no idea if they would help your problem though. The springs are matched to the car by engine and other options, I think, meaning that the front ones (at least) would be different between a 300E and a 300D Turbo (since the OM603 is significantly heavier than the M103). Alex Chamberlain too many broken 124s ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MG's
'49 model here, but just barely. If I were a car I'd be a '50. I've been a grandfather for 9 years now so you got there a year younger than I did - not that grandfathers have much to do with that sort of thing. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:14 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] MG's Both of you have me beat - I'm a 1959 model. But I'm a grandfather, does that count? Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill R Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 9:07 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] MG's A young one, are you? I was turning 5, though a couple of weeks earlier. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 11:19 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] MG's I turned 2 Christmas Eve of that same year. And I am a grandfather. :-) On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 10:51 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Wonko. The one I had the ride in in 1954 was a TD!! Wilton - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 10:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MG's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MG_(car)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MG_%28car %29 Mine was a 1971 MGB. On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wasn't there a TD, also? Wilton -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.4.3/1525 - Release Date: 6/29/2008 3:09 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.4.3/1525 - Release Date: 6/29/2008 3:09 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 9/11 inside job? [was: GWB]
The heat from the fire will cause steel beams to expand. Two things can happen, first the expansion can cause walls to be pushed outward and fall. Second, after the fire, beams can contract as they cool and fall within the supports that got pushed outward, so, be careful during mop up. This was taught in firefighting training I had many years ago and I suspect better building methods are used now days. Any of you engineer types have a way to find out how much expansion a 100 foot beam could generated in a building fire? The answer was part of the training but I can't recall. Harry On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:51 AM, Royce Engler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mitch Haley wrote: Somewhere I've got a picture of a burned out barn with steel beams drooped over a wooden beam. If you read the article that Mitch referenced, you'll see further down the difference between a glue-lam wooden composite beam and a steel beam...making the point that steel can and does fail before some wood structures. I did some googling and found the following excellent discussion by a fire department expert. Based on my somewhat limited knowledge of structural engineering (I'm a petroleum engineer by training, but I had to take all the same core courses as the structural guys, and I my Dad was a structural engineer), this guy knows what he is talking about. One of his points is that the steel trusses were the weak points, and all fire departments know that. Once one part of a truss fails, the rest of the truss can fail quickly as undamaged parts have to pick up the loads of other parts that failed. He also mentions the problems with failed insulation on the steel, I have seen mentioned several times in discussions about WTC. Of course, that was partially due to issues with asbestos, and you can just imagine the restrictions in NYC for dealing with asbestos. Bottom line, I'm tired of hearing about conspiracies other than the one where 19 terrorists climbed on board undefended airliners, slit the throats of women, and bravely drove those planes into buildings that housed over 3000 civilians. As an aside...we're visiting in-laws in Oklahoma City and yesterday went to the site of the 1995 bombing. I'm sorry they executed Tim McVeighI would rather they caged him up and kept him at the site so people could kick his ass. Royce ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MG's
Mid-year here, but still not a grandfather, and that's OK - so far. On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: '49 model here, but just barely. If I were a car I'd be a '50. I've been a grandfather for 9 years now so you got there a year younger than I did - not that grandfathers have much to do with that sort of thing. BillR -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: New dog
Thanks Gary, thats a complete reply... IAMs and Science Diet appear to be 1 star foods... The Newman's is a 3 star but still inadequate meat content. We have a free source of fresh eggs (a friend has 20 chickens and needs a way to get rid of eggs) and Buster seems to like a scrambled egg on is kibble so that'll help make sure he gets enough protien... I'll be spending some time with that link you sent looking for a better quality food, thanks! -Curt --- On Sat, 6/28/08, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: New dog To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, June 28, 2008, 11:54 PM at petco, the fat man buys products from solid gold. my general preference is for innova as a brand (made by a company that calls itself natura) but not innova evo. the german really tends toward flatulence and the regular innova seems to do a good job keeping that under control, which is especially important as i often sleep with dogs. innova manufactures their own dry food and farms out the wet food. solid gold makes nothing themselves other than the formulations. innova has also come out and stated they will not use any food sourced from china in their product. my main source for propaganda is http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com/ my thought is that you should not hesitate using a 4 star or better food that fits in with your own personal philosophy. their view seems to be that dog's are straight meat only beats and therefore anything with grains gets downgraded. like professional bodybuilders, they love protein and hate carbs. if you personally believe in a more balanced diet, you can use a higher carb lower protein food as i do. but you still want your carb sources to be quality sources such as brown rice and barley instead of corn and beet filler crap. i mean, that's just common sense, no? if you stick to a 4 star plus food, you can be assured of finding a food you can believe in and one that is widely enough distributed so you can get it without hassle. the other thing i tend to like to look for is human quality ingredients. if something is banned for human consumption or would not be fed in some form to humans, i'm not giving it to the dogs. also, consider feeding your dog some fresh bones as well. some people feed nothing but fresh foods but most rely in kibble as the primary source of nutrition. i get a lot of pig tails for my dogs as well as those big marrow filled bones from the butcher. many feed their dogs whole chickens. dogs eat raw bones. however, do not every give your dog any sort of cooked bones as these splinter and are very dangerous. also, avoid rawhide bones as dogs do not digest rawhide. y'know, there are people out there who live into their 80s on a steady diet of mcdonalds and marlboros and are never sick a day in their lives. and there are people who treat their bodies as holy temple and drop dead at 40 after a lifetime of illness. this demonstrates nothing other than that within a complex living organism you can get a lot of different outcomes from the same inputs. keith richards has consumed enough drugs to have killed nearly anyone, yet he survives and rocks on. this does not mean that shooting heroin is something that is good for you. if you can read the ingredients in science diet or iams and say hey, i really can believe in this, go ahead and use it and be happy with it. i hope if you do you get the finest results with your animal and laugh at my recommendations to you. however, i can't really believe in it, so i don't use it. i use innova, solid gold and, of course, dick van patten stuff when i can get it on the cheap. basically, i'll use any 4 star or better food that is in about the 25% protein range if i can get a good price on it, generally mixing it with the standard innova formulation. On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 7:20 PM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know theres lots of dog folks on here... Got our first (well my first, my wife had a dog before) dog today. He's a corgi, dachshound, bassett hound and probably something else mix. You can definately see the corgi in him but he's black which I didn't think was a normal corgi color. He's a rescue dog brought up from Arkansas from a high kill shelter. His litter mates had all been adopted but apparently black dogs (he's one of two black dogs in the litter) are harder to adopt out. They said he's about 3 months old but some of the paperwork indicates he might be as much as 6 months. The name he came with was Feisty but he didn't seem particularly enamored of it and answers more readily to Buster so we're gonna stick with that. We just got back in from his first pee, its odd, he's pooped 3 times but never pee'd. When he did it was like the flood gates were opening! I wanted to ask about food. He'd been eating Science Diet so I got a bag of
Re: [MBZ] More 240D door lock fun
Yeah thats what I did, I've got some graphite lock spray that seems to essentially be graphite paint. I'm hoping it doesn't gum up like the dry carrierless graphite did. -Curt --- On Sun, 6/29/08, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] More 240D door lock fun To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sunday, June 29, 2008, 12:54 PM use graphite - something like MMO with attrac dust become gummy. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 1:30 PM Subject: [MBZ] More 240D door lock fun So a night of sitting in SeaFoam Deep creep seems to have loosened the passenger's lock a bit. I brushed it off and tried some Marvel Mystery Oil Lubricating Oil which helped even more. Its at the point where the lock will rotate 100% of the time when I put in the key. Occasionally it sticks a little putting the key in so I'm going to soak it some more in the lubricating oil. I'm considering a bottle of MMO to soak the whole lock in... I'm thinking I shouldn't leave the MMO in it once its totally free'd though, maybe clean it with carb cleaner (or brake cleaner) and lubricate with graphite? The driver's side came out more easily as part of the little rod is broken... I'll have to weld that back together, or solder, I suppose it could be pot metal, doesn't look like it though. The lock cylinder definately is pot metal and it definately is stuck. No movement at all. Here's a lesson, don't try to beat it out with a hammer and punch. I've deformed the spot where the pin goes. I'll have to reshape and solder later on. Its soaking with PB Blaster right now. I'm not sure I think the DeepCreep is great stuff, I'm going to try freeing this one up with PB Blaster and see if it works better. Anyway about 1/3 of the way there. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GWB
Gary wrote: i think that dubya and his crew would be more than capable of engineering 9/11. my impression is that they are absolutely amoral and capable of anything at all. I note that you didn't answer my question at all. Do you think that the 1993 Bombing of the WTC indicates that Bill Clinton was totally inept or do you think he planned it? Because that was the premise of your argument, that there was no other explanation for 9/11 other than Bush is enept or he planned it. You also didn't respond regarding OKC (or the other examples that were extreme and just meant to make a point). I assume by your failure to respond, you are admitting it was a dumb argument. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GWB
sure, i'll admit whatever you like i make the choice of malice or idiocy based on dubya's behavior while it was happening and the the ability of the washington, dc plane to make it to the pentagon. it kind smells to me on the face of it. i don't have reason to suspect clinton with regards to 1993 WTC or OKC.. should i? On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 1:44 PM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary wrote: i think that dubya and his crew would be more than capable of engineering 9/11. my impression is that they are absolutely amoral and capable of anything at all. I note that you didn't answer my question at all. Do you think that the 1993 Bombing of the WTC indicates that Bill Clinton was totally inept or do you think he planned it? Because that was the premise of your argument, that there was no other explanation for 9/11 other than Bush is enept or he planned it. You also didn't respond regarding OKC (or the other examples that were extreme and just meant to make a point). I assume by your failure to respond, you are admitting it was a dumb argument. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GWB
on 6/30/08 10:25, Donald Snook at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have got to be kidding. Do you also believe that we never landed on the moon? By the same token, back at you: Do YOU believe the Warren Commission Report? Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GWB
i believe in whatever the good counselor can corner me into admitting. in fact, i'll sign a confession for killing jfk right now On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 6/30/08 10:25, Donald Snook at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have got to be kidding. Do you also believe that we never landed on the moon? By the same token, back at you: Do YOU believe the Warren Commission Report? Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Ballsy? Or stupid?
Should be nice when you get done. Next time, fill the tank with water or CO2. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:19 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT: Ballsy? Or stupid? I have been spending the last two months working on our boat. (A gift from my father, I now think of it as something like a State visit by the King + entourage in the Middle Ages: as much punishment as honor! See: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/boat.html if you care about details.) Today I pulled out its 18-gallon gas tank. It had some exterior rust, nothing too bad I thought, and the interior, though very oily, seemed clean. I rinsed it out with gasoline, and found no chunks of rust, etc. I started wire-brushing it off prior to painting. Then I found the hole. A screwdriver went right through! It's where it rested on the 2x4 for support, naturally. Oh crap. Well, I've heard about this trick and always wondered if it worked. I got out the riding lawn mower and wedged the (ruined) fill hose from the tank into the exhaust grille, such that lots came through the hose. I'd already removed the gauge sender, so when I hooked the hose to the tank I got a lot of exhaust puffing out all four holes. (The sender, vent, pickup, and Hole.) I taped over the big sender hole, and left it on a fast idle while I got out the welder. Exhaust was puffing out of all the holes. I cut a strip of new steel sufficient to cover the hole and some suspect area near it. Party time! I clamped the steel in place and tack-welded it. As I welded down the one (outside) edge I started to get a lot of smokey-looking fumes blowing out of the area. This was the vaporized oil and gasoline coming out of the tank through the Hole and around the steel patch. Once I saw that I'd stop until the fumes subsided. As I went around the outside I could see fumes blow out some of the already-accomplished welds, so I periodically stopped and ground off the bead and re-welded it. (As I'd already learned doing the Unimog fuel tank once upon a time, this is crucial to getting a good seal.) Eventually I had a bead all the way around it that didn't 'leak' fumes. I ground it down and touched up any poor-looking spots, then finished the grind, followed by a wire brushing. All this time the mower was putt-putting away, and the rubber filler hose was getting rather hot. I sluiced water over the repair and didn't see any bubbles, so I wire-brushed it again to dry it off. I then set the tank in the sun to finish drying and put away the mower. Then I rattle-canned primer on the brushed end of the tank. Success? It appears so. At least I didn't die. Welding on a gas tank is rather scary. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.4.3/1525 - Release Date: 6/29/2008 3:09 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.4.3/1525 - Release Date: 6/29/2008 3:09 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: MY\y Charmglow grill I purchased at HD, your ticking time bomb?
Oh man, don't even get me started on HD... I went there Friday to get 2 sheets of OSB that are going to become a hovercraft... I found the OSB quickly, the price was reasonable, then it took me FIFTEEN *^ING MINUTES to get some idiot to take my money. All they had were self checkout lines. Normally I don't mind but its difficult to get through a self check with 4'x8' sheets of OSB... So I went to the contractors desk which had a real person for checkout. Except the people in front of me were apparently getting some special deal and because of that the idiot working the checkout couldn't acutally do anything... There were between 5 and 10 HD employees standing around watching all this chatting pleasantly to each other and several times calling on the intercom for all reserve cashiers to come to the front which didn't accomplish anything... Eventually one of the brighter mouth breathers opened a real checkout and I got through. Right behind me was a guy with 6 2x4s, they closed the gate in his face and told him to go to self check. He told them they could take the 2x4s and stuff 'em up their asses. I wrote that all up and sent it off to HD and they're sending me a $20 gift card... Whoop dee dang doo. The downside of course is I have to actually go back to HD to spend it. I'm planning to install an attic ladder this week, I'll be sourcing it from my local lumberyard instead of HD. -Curt Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:29:56 -0400 From: Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] OT: MY\y Charmglow grill I purchased at HD, your ticking time bomb? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed This is the letter I sent to CS @ NEXGRILL. If you bought a stainless steel grill at HD in the last 3 years, chances are you have a ticking time bomb. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE read the following @ Consumer Affairs : http://www.consumeraffairs.com/homeowners/charmglow.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: MY\y Charmglow grill I purchased at HD, your ticking time bomb?
Not in my world, working in Film and TV HD is High Definition or depending on who you talk to a really good excuse to sell upgrades to broadcasters. -Curt Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 23:12:52 -0400 From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: MY\y Charmglow grill I purchased at HD, your ticking time bomb? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I didn't know that Harley sold grills. Must have been expensive. :-) (Yea, I know -- Home Depot -- but Harley sort of has a copyright on HD. ) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Ballsy? Or stupid?
Never tried welding, but I respect those who can. A guy bought the house a few doors down from me some years ago and wanted to get rid of the oil tank in the basement [he owned a heating and ac company]. As he was cutting the tank up it caught fire and ended up burning down his 'new' house. Sounds like you used more intelligent job rules than he did. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 2:10 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Ballsy? Or stupid? Should be nice when you get done. Next time, fill the tank with water or CO2. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:19 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT: Ballsy? Or stupid? I have been spending the last two months working on our boat. (A gift from my father, I now think of it as something like a State visit by the King + entourage in the Middle Ages: as much punishment as honor! See: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/boat.html if you care about details.) Today I pulled out its 18-gallon gas tank. It had some exterior rust, nothing too bad I thought, and the interior, though very oily, seemed clean. I rinsed it out with gasoline, and found no chunks of rust, etc. I started wire-brushing it off prior to painting. Then I found the hole. A screwdriver went right through! It's where it rested on the 2x4 for support, naturally. Oh crap. Well, I've heard about this trick and always wondered if it worked. I got out the riding lawn mower and wedged the (ruined) fill hose from the tank into the exhaust grille, such that lots came through the hose. I'd already removed the gauge sender, so when I hooked the hose to the tank I got a lot of exhaust puffing out all four holes. (The sender, vent, pickup, and Hole.) I taped over the big sender hole, and left it on a fast idle while I got out the welder. Exhaust was puffing out of all the holes. I cut a strip of new steel sufficient to cover the hole and some suspect area near it. Party time! I clamped the steel in place and tack-welded it. As I welded down the one (outside) edge I started to get a lot of smokey-looking fumes blowing out of the area. This was the vaporized oil and gasoline coming out of the tank through the Hole and around the steel patch. Once I saw that I'd stop until the fumes subsided. As I went around the outside I could see fumes blow out some of the already-accomplished welds, so I periodically stopped and ground off the bead and re-welded it. (As I'd already learned doing the Unimog fuel tank once upon a time, this is crucial to getting a good seal.) Eventually I had a bead all the way around it that didn't 'leak' fumes. I ground it down and touched up any poor-looking spots, then finished the grind, followed by a wire brushing. All this time the mower was putt-putting away, and the rubber filler hose was getting rather hot. I sluiced water over the repair and didn't see any bubbles, so I wire-brushed it again to dry it off. I then set the tank in the sun to finish drying and put away the mower. Then I rattle-canned primer on the brushed end of the tank. Success? It appears so. At least I didn't die. Welding on a gas tank is rather scary. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.4.3/1525 - Release Date: 6/29/2008 3:09 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.4.3/1525 - Release Date: 6/29/2008 3:09 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: MY\y Charmglow grill I purchased at HD, your ticking time bomb?
Curt, I suspect mine was a one in [a lot] chance, but I had one of those break off at a hinge while I was climbing it, and I landed about 4' down on cement. Just a caution to everyone who has one to check it out now and again for indications of cracks or poorly placed knots. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 2:25 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: MY\y Charmglow grill I purchased at HD, your ticking time bomb? Oh man, don't even get me started on HD... I went there Friday to get 2 sheets of OSB that are going to become a hovercraft... I found the OSB quickly, the price was reasonable, then it took me FIFTEEN *^ING MINUTES to get some idiot to take my money. All they had were self checkout lines. Normally I don't mind but its difficult to get through a self check with 4'x8' sheets of OSB... So I went to the contractors desk which had a real person for checkout. Except the people in front of me were apparently getting some special deal and because of that the idiot working the checkout couldn't acutally do anything... There were between 5 and 10 HD employees standing around watching all this chatting pleasantly to each other and several times calling on the intercom for all reserve cashiers to come to the front which didn't accomplish anything... Eventually one of the brighter mouth breathers opened a real checkout and I got through. Right behind me was a guy with 6 2x4s, they closed the gate in his face and told him to go to self check. He told them they could take the 2x4s and stuff 'em up their asses. I wrote that all up and sent it off to HD and they're sending me a $20 gift card... Whoop dee dang doo. The downside of course is I have to actually go back to HD to spend it. I'm planning to install an attic ladder this week, I'll be sourcing it from my local lumberyard instead of HD. -Curt Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 22:29:56 -0400 From: Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] OT: MY\y Charmglow grill I purchased at HD, your ticking time bomb? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed This is the letter I sent to CS @ NEXGRILL. If you bought a stainless steel grill at HD in the last 3 years, chances are you have a ticking time bomb. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE read the following @ Consumer Affairs : http://www.consumeraffairs.com/homeowners/charmglow.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT cummins questions
As others have said, that's a rotary pump, and 90 and later were intercooled so you can bump it up a bit. BUT the getrag five speed manual is the greatest concern in that truck. Do not even think about loads and fifth gear (it is very weak), so because of this you will probably not want a truck geared anything numerically higher than 3.54. With your lead foot and the higher speed limits towing in okieland, you might not even want 3.54s. At least parts for that transmission are cheap. Oh wait. They're not. Just about anything that could possibly go wonky requires a total rebuild not just a minor replacement, because the only parts available for it IS the total rebuild kit. As of last year, the parts were deep into the $900 range, and that's not paying retail... Personally, I prefer the pre-94 dodges as they're a lot simpler truck and you don't have to deal with a front suspension not designed for the type of load the cummins places on it (and front end parts wear out rapidly, proving this point), catch is it was somewhat of the dark ages of the diesel power wars, and chrysler was playing catchup, even with the advantage of the cummins. On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 05:34:24PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: 91 Dodge, 5 speed manual. Needs an IP. Asking $1500. How expensive/hard is it to mess with a IP on one of these? Worth that much money with a bad pump? Rest of truck supposedly good. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: New dog
Oh man, when Buster first arrived my wife had cut up a hotdog for him to have for treats. We generally don't eat hotdogs, we only had them because they'd come in a pack from the Omaha steaks people as a thank you for our Christmas shopping (everybody got steaks this year). The hotdog gave Buster the worst smelling farts ever. Actually I can't say that, he's a small dog. When I was in highschool my friend Ed had a black lab that had huge and terrible smelling farts... -Curt Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 08:13:34 -0400 From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: New dog To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Pete wrote get sick on people food And fat - Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Obama - guns and stereotypes
I'm almost militantly moderate and don't really see anything all that appealing in either candidate. I voted in the Republican primary for Ron Paul... That said I'm going to vote Obama mostly to give the finger to the racists. -Curt Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 08:47:11 -0400 From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Obama - guns and stereotypes To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original It's encouraging to see you have done some homework instead of doing what many are doing - signing on to the obama bandwagon because he says Change in a interesting way. I hope others will take the time to see how he has voted on various issues and what he has said on his books. He has told us all we need to know that this man is not good for America. Also, there are several types of people who will vote this year - those who will vote for obama *because* be is black and those who will not vote for him for the same reason. Both of these are racist although the 1st would not admit it. Then there are those who vote party lines regardless of who is running and then there's the smallest group of all - those who investigate and do their homework to find out who will do those things good for the economy and protect us and maintain a strong America. Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net 800-583-8601 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Comcast (was Re: question about using blackberry as a tethered modem)
You got it exactly right. The broadcasters and MPAA are only marginally brighter than the RIAA and record industry which isn't saying much. We haven't had cable for 9 years. When I first got out of college I didn't have any money. Then a few months later I got my finanaces worked out and figured if we didn't need cable before we probably still didn't need it. Now 9 years later I figure we REALLY don't need it. We live about 70 miles outside of Boston and rabbit ears are useless. I priced out last summer a roof mounted TV antenna and it looked to be about $300 which would get us all kinds of TV but in talking to the wife we decided we didn't need it. We buy a couple DVDs a year (mostly TV shows) and watch no more than 1 hour of TV per night. The rest of the time we do stuff or actually talk to each other, what a novel concept. -Curt Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 08:52:41 -0400 From: Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Comcast (was Re: question about using blackberry as a tethered modem) To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:17 PM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It gets worse. Comcast will steadily move channels out of the Basic package and into the digital basic package so you will be unable to view them unless you upgrade. My only choice for cable is Comcast - Verizon is slowly moving into this area but who knows when it'll be available. Let's see, we will move channels a couple times a year from Basic plans to the higher cost Pay plans with no other incentive to move up than to get their channels back to the customer. Brilliant! They do this and still content providers wonder why more and more people just pirate TV shows from BitTorrent. Personally, I haven't had cable, or satellite, for about three years. If I *really* want to see something that isn't available from my wonderful rabbit ears, I go to the iTunes Store or buy it on DVD. EdB -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: New dog
I just remembered how rubbery an uncooked chicken bone is... I bet the government would give me half a million bucks to study how chicken bones become brittle during cooking and could harm dogs if ingested. ;) -Curt Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:50:09 -0400 From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: New dog To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 if it is cooked, not raw. if a dog catches a chicken outside and eats it, do you think they de-bone it first? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Car let-down
I've only had 1 MB let down, that was my '81 300TD which was a basket case. The PO had put stops-leaks in the radiator and it siezed the thermostat. My wife has AAA so we got a tow and I spend 2 F-ing days cleaning the stops-leaks out. I hate that stuff. My '96 Dodge Dakota sized the waterpump on the highway. I'd noticed it weeping but didn't know what it ment. My '88 GMC Jimmy lost the fuel pump in the mall parkinglot in Presque Isle, Maine in a rain storm. It'd been shuddering for a week but again I didn't know what it ment. My '84 Ford Tempo lost the ignition module and hall effect sensor at the same time. That one with no warning that I can remember... Oh wait, the ignition lock went on the '83 240D once which required a tow... It'd been going for awhile but I didn't yet know what that ment... -Curt Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:27:54 -0500 From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car let-down To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 My previous '83 300SD only let me down once. The voltage regulator failed around dusk during a trip to Kansas. Spent the night in a hotel, got a jumpstart and drove 2 hours to the KC MB dealer to purchase a new regulator. Layed down in the parking lot and installed it myself. The service manager (vith thik Deutsch ahksent) provided me with a jumpstart. Ironically, during the previous week, the voltage dash light had been flashing on during periouds of decelleration and braking. My dumbarse didn't heed the signs. Luther, knowing that MB's don't breakdown when you heed warning sings and check all the simple things On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 11:21:02 -0500, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree wholeheartedly. The 240D had 42 kmi, the 350SDL 89 kmi, the 300D 130 kmi, the 87 300D 84 kmi. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: MY\y Charmglow grill I purchased at HD, your ticking time bomb?
YOINKS! That doesn't sound like any fun at all... Ours would only drop you onto a carpeted floor but still... I looked at them at HD and they ranged from $99 to about $170. I wonder if the more expensive ones are actually better. I'll ask at the store tomorrow. -Curt --- On Mon, 6/30/08, Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [MBZ] OT: MY\y Charmglow grill I purchased at HD, yourticking time bomb? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Monday, June 30, 2008, 2:33 PM Curt, I suspect mine was a one in [a lot] chance, but I had one of those break off at a hinge while I was climbing it, and I landed about 4' down on cement. Just a caution to everyone who has one to check it out now and again for indications of cracks or poorly placed knots. BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GWB
Mac wrote: By the same token, back at you: Do YOU believe the Warren Commission Report? No, but I don't really care. There probably was a second shooter. I think most conspiracy theories are bogus. But, I did read Fatal Error about the JFK assassination. It was very interesting. I won't tell you the author's conclusion if you want to read it. I read it as if it was a movie. It was complete fiction, but interesting anyway. Sort of like an Oliver Stone movie. If you just assume that nothing in the movie is actually true, they can be entertaining. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GWB
Has anybody elsed noticed that Yahoo mail now has ads for Russian mail order brides? Anytime I'm given the choice between corruption and stupidity I'll say its stupidity every single time. Douglas Adams said it best, stupidity is the most common element in the entire universe. -Curt Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:22:24 -0400 From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] GWB To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 the story is kind of silly. either we conclude that our president and everyone around him, as well as the entire air defense system, is completely inept or retarded or we conclude that it was an inside job. which works best for you? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GWB
A friend has a poster that reads Never attribute to malice, that which can be explained by stupidity. I don't know the source. i make the choice of malice or idiocy based on dubya's behavior while it was happening -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Ballsy? Or stupid?
That's where to project went wrong - a boat should have yards of cloth, not gas tanks! ;-) Today I pulled out its 18-gallon gas tank. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK two sail boats ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT cummins questions
'91 would be old body style wouldn't it? I'd surely love to have one of those. With the 240D in house for my wife to run back and forth to work with it'd be the perfect snowmobile/firewood hauler and would be much better at camp than my Dakota is. Pull starting the farm tractor with my Dakota sucks, with a full size truck its easy peasy. I suspect a '91 would get pretty good fuel mileage too. -Curt Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 17:34:24 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] OT cummins questions To: mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed 91 Dodge, 5 speed manual. Needs an IP. Asking $1500. How expensive/hard is it to mess with a IP on one of these? Worth that much money with a bad pump? Rest of truck supposedly good. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy
And a buzzer for me. -Curt Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:11:03 -0400 From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii While you are in the dismantling mood don't forget my seat spring base and under door light. BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy
The last time a tool show came through I picked up a couple magnetic bowls. Super handy since you can kick one over and usually not lose all your bits... Of course mine are all full of other projects. -Curt Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:07:28 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Well the fun part is that the parts car has been sitting for a while, and as I am under the car removing bolts, I tend to leave them laying on the driveway under the car, then they get lost. It will be a mess OK Don wrote: Amen to that! Finding all the little nuts and bolts will be lots of fun!! Then of course hooking everything back up. Much easier coming out than going in -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy
At a formal function, an elderly widow gave me one; told me to, Store your nuts in it Neither of us could stop laughing for 5 minutes, you had to be there. Pete -- Original message -- From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] The last time a tool show came through I picked up a couple magnetic bowls. Super handy since you can kick one over and usually not lose all your bits... Of course mine are all full of other projects. -Curt Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 19:07:28 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 evapectomy To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Well the fun part is that the parts car has been sitting for a while, and as I am under the car removing bolts, I tend to leave them laying on the driveway under the car, then they get lost. It will be a mess OK Don wrote: Amen to that! Finding all the little nuts and bolts will be lots of fun!! Then of course hooking everything back up. Much easier coming out than going in -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GWB
Hey look at this, someone is being charged in the bombing of the USS Cole. I guess there is another explanation besides Bill Clinton did it and/or he was completely inept. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25460351 it looks like maybe the answer is that Terrorism happens and sometimes it cannot be stopped. Sometimes, it can. http://www.heritage.org/research/HomelandDefense/bg2085.cfm Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GWB
sure you can stop it. just knock down enough 85 year old women on oxygen because they can't get their shoes off fast enough for you and we will all be safe. or so your dubya thinks, and i use that word only in the loosest possible sense. On 6/30/08, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey look at this, someone is being charged in the bombing of the USS Cole. I guess there is another explanation besides Bill Clinton did it and/or he was completely inept. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25460351 it looks like maybe the answer is that Terrorism happens and sometimes it cannot be stopped. Sometimes, it can. http://www.heritage.org/research/HomelandDefense/bg2085.cfm Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] last MB diesel with iron head?
'85 300D/SD/TD/CD not sure if there was a TD and CD in '85 anyway, '85 was the last year for iron heads, right? Thanks, Chris Bünter u. Bügel Diesel Sales Service -1985 300SD, 379K km, Wulf -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 1 Ton, 60K mi, Der Abschleppwagen -'75 240D, '80 300SD, '82 300Dt, '83 240D, '84 300Dt '85 300Dt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 92 300TE
Hey Gang, Thinking abour sellng what used to be my Dad's 300TE 4matic. I am wondering if I can get a guestimate of what this vehicle might be worth. The 4Matic has never worked since I got it. Rear passenger window decided not to go up but rather down about one week ago. I took the headlights out to work on the wipers. Now I have working wipers but no headlights. Everything was so brittle the frames and connectors broke. No AC. An Indy says otherwise but I believe he broke my aux. fan which in turn punctured my condensor. Same Indy when I picked the vehicle up the windshield had a crack in it. Excellent tires all around. Exterior body in good condition, one scratch/dent on passenger's front fender (Another Wal Mart do damage and drive off. I gotta stop shopping at Wal Mart) Interior is in VERY good condition. Somewhere near 180,000 miles on it. Approx. $6,000.00 worth of engine and suspension work maybe 500 miles ago What do you all think? Dave H.. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] last MB diesel with iron head?
There were both a 300DT and a CD in 85, I do not know about a TD. Dave H... Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:20:07 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] last MB diesel with iron head? '85 300D/SD/TD/CD not sure if there was a TD and CD in '85 anyway, '85 was the last year for iron heads, right? Thanks, Chris ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] last MB diesel with iron head?
Christopher McCann wrote: anyway, '85 was the last year for iron heads, right? Yep ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] last MB diesel with iron head?
Christopher McCann wrote: '85 300D/SD/TD/CD not sure if there was a TD and CD in '85 anyway, '85 was the last year for iron heads, right? Yes, all 1985 diesels but the 190D had OM617.95x engines. In the 300D/CD/TD the 1985 had a taller final drive and a looser torque converter. The pilot hole in the crank was larger to accept the new TQ. I don't know if that change applies to the 1985 300SD or not. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 92 300TE
these general sell so cheaply you now that you might want to keep it. maybe 1500 bucks as you describe it. On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 5:22 PM, David Hemsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Gang, Thinking abour sellng what used to be my Dad's 300TE 4matic. I am wondering if I can get a guestimate of what this vehicle might be worth. The 4Matic has never worked since I got it. Rear passenger window decided not to go up but rather down about one week ago. I took the headlights out to work on the wipers. Now I have working wipers but no headlights. Everything was so brittle the frames and connectors broke. No AC. An Indy says otherwise but I believe he broke my aux. fan which in turn punctured my condensor. Same Indy when I picked the vehicle up the windshield had a crack in it. Excellent tires all around. Exterior body in good condition, one scratch/dent on passenger's front fender (Another Wal Mart do damage and drive off. I gotta stop shopping at Wal Mart) Interior is in VERY good condition. Somewhere near 180,000 miles on it. Approx. $6,000.00 worth of engine and suspension work maybe 500 miles ago What do you all think? Dave H.. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 92 300TE
Sister-in-law got a 91 300TE 4Matic, 120k, white/camel, 3rd seat off eBay last year for $2000. California car - no rust, everything works. Cost $600 for DAS to ship it to Ohio. Wonderful car. I replaced the accumulators ($250 - Thanks Rusty) because the rear end was funky. It now has the best suspension I've ever driven. Not as soft as the W140. Not as hard as the 87SDL. It's just right. I'd keep it. -Dave Walton On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 5:22 PM, David Hemsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Gang, Thinking abour sellng what used to be my Dad's 300TE 4matic. I am wondering if I can get a guestimate of what this vehicle might be worth. The 4Matic has never worked since I got it. Rear passenger window decided not to go up but rather down about one week ago. I took the headlights out to work on the wipers. Now I have working wipers but no headlights. Everything was so brittle the frames and connectors broke. No AC. An Indy says otherwise but I believe he broke my aux. fan which in turn punctured my condensor. Same Indy when I picked the vehicle up the windshield had a crack in it. Excellent tires all around. Exterior body in good condition, one scratch/dent on passenger's front fender (Another Wal Mart do damage and drive off. I gotta stop shopping at Wal Mart) Interior is in VERY good condition. Somewhere near 180,000 miles on it. Approx. $6,000.00 worth of engine and suspension work maybe 500 miles ago What do you all think? Dave H.. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 92 300TE
David Hemsley wrote: Approx. $6,000.00 worth of engine and suspension work maybe 500 miles ago Unless there is another car you have your sights on it is probably best to fix the problems that just cropped up and drive the car for a while yet. Otherwise you probably won't get back half of that money. :( John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] last MB diesel with iron head?
There is no such thing as a DT. There were 300D 300CD 300TD 300SD sold here in the states, engine 617.95X. Last iron head made. The pilot hole is *smaller* on the 85 and non standard. There were also numerous electrical and emissions changes. -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Ballsy? Or stupid?
You might want to rethink that statement...first and foremost you certainly dont want water in your gas tank. Second CO2 is not found in every shop like a lawn mower and some rubber hose. I think the exhaust fumes are a near perfect solution if you consider cost and effectiveness. Mike -Original Message- Date: Monday, June 30, 2008 2:09:39 pm To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Ballsy? Or stupid? Should be nice when you get done. Next time, fill the tank with water or CO2. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:19 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT: Ballsy? Or stupid? I have been spending the last two months working on our boat. (A gift from my father, I now think of it as something like a State visit by the King + entourage in the Middle Ages: as much punishment as honor! See: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/boat.html if you care about details.) Today I pulled out its 18-gallon gas tank. It had some exterior rust, nothing too bad I thought, and the interior, though very oily, seemed clean. I rinsed it out with gasoline, and found no chunks of rust, etc. I started wire-brushing it off prior to painting. Then I found the hole. A screwdriver went right through! It's where it rest ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT cummins questions
well crap, i thought the manny tranny behind the dodge was good, but the auto was crap, are you saying they are both crap? Kevin wrote: As others have said, that's a rotary pump, and 90 and later were intercooled so you can bump it up a bit. BUT the getrag five speed manual is the greatest concern in that truck. Do not even think about loads and fifth gear (it is very weak), so because of this you will probably not want a truck geared anything numerically higher than 3.54. With your lead foot and the higher speed limits towing in okieland, you might not even want 3.54s. At least parts for that transmission are cheap. Oh wait. They're not. Just about anything that could possibly go wonky requires a total rebuild not just a minor replacement, because the only parts available for it IS the total rebuild kit. As of last year, the parts were deep into the $900 range, and that's not paying retail... Personally, I prefer the pre-94 dodges as they're a lot simpler truck and you don't have to deal with a front suspension not designed for the type of load the cummins places on it (and front end parts wear out rapidly, proving this point), catch is it was somewhat of the dark ages of the diesel power wars, and chrysler was playing catchup, even with the advantage of the cummins. On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 05:34:24PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: 91 Dodge, 5 speed manual. Needs an IP. Asking $1500. How expensive/hard is it to mess with a IP on one of these? Worth that much money with a bad pump? Rest of truck supposedly good. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] last MB diesel with iron head?
right, there as D/SD/TD/CD Christopher McCann wrote: '85 300D/SD/TD/CD not sure if there was a TD and CD in '85 anyway, '85 was the last year for iron heads, right? Thanks, Chris Bünter u. Bügel Diesel Sales Service -1985 300SD, 379K km, Wulf -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 1 Ton, 60K mi, Der Abschleppwagen -'75 240D, '80 300SD, '82 300Dt, '83 240D, '84 300Dt '85 300Dt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 92 300TE
Where is it located? How much? Probably not worth much though with bad 4matic and ac David Hemsley wrote: Hey Gang, Thinking abour sellng what used to be my Dad's 300TE 4matic. I am wondering if I can get a guestimate of what this vehicle might be worth. The 4Matic has never worked since I got it. Rear passenger window decided not to go up but rather down about one week ago. I took the headlights out to work on the wipers. Now I have working wipers but no headlights. Everything was so brittle the frames and connectors broke. No AC. An Indy says otherwise but I believe he broke my aux. fan which in turn punctured my condensor. Same Indy when I picked the vehicle up the windshield had a crack in it. Excellent tires all around. Exterior body in good condition, one scratch/dent on passenger's front fender (Another Wal Mart do damage and drive off. I gotta stop shopping at Wal Mart) Interior is in VERY good condition. Somewhere near 180,000 miles on it. Approx. $6,000.00 worth of engine and suspension work maybe 500 miles ago What do you all think? Dave H.. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Anti-chafing boot
New Freon hose on my 87 300D is significantly different from original. Steel part of the original hose from compressor to evap turned 90 degrees upward immediately behind the compressor, then rubber part curved gently back toward evap. connection. Steel part of new one turns about 160 degrees toward front of car and goes under rear of power steering pump. The rubber part of the hose has to turn and twist back up and toward the rear to the evap connection. We had to turn power steering hose upward to get clearance for the Freon hose to pass it. These two hoses now touch each other. To aleviate a chafing problem on the Freon hose, I installed a short section of rubber water hose between them as an anti-chafing boot. See photos; # 1 shows the hoses at rear of compressor; # 2 shows the Freon hose with boot touching power steering hose. Wilton -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: freonhose1.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 53212 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080630/9f6adb8b/attachment.jpg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: freonhose2.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 168035 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080630/9f6adb8b/attachment-0001.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 92 300TE
I think i will just keep it. Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:34:44 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 92 300TE Where is it located? How much? Probably not worth much though with bad 4matic and ac David Hemsley wrote: Hey Gang,Thinking abour sellng what used to be my Dad's 300TE 4matic.I am wondering if I can get a guestimate of what this vehicle might be worth.The 4Matic has never worked since I got it. Rear passenger window decided not to go up but rather down about one week ago. I took the headlights out to work on the wipers. Now I have working wipers but no headlights. Everything was so brittle the frames and connectors broke. No AC. An Indy says otherwise but I believe he broke my aux. fan which in turn punctured my condensor. Same Indy when I picked the vehicle up the windshield had a crack in it.Excellent tires all around. Exterior body in good condition, one scratch/dent on passenger's front fender (Another Wal Mart do damage and drive off. I gotta stop shopping at Wal Mart) Interior is in VERY good condition. Somewhere near 180,000 miles on it.Approx. $6,000.00 worth of engine and suspension work maybe 500 miles agoWhat do you all think? Dave H.. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com-- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT cummins questions
For dodge manuals: 88-93 five speed was a getrag. Fine until something happens, then really expensive. Towing in fifth or lugging in fifth makes this happen a LOT sooner. 94-02 five speed (standard output 24 valves got the five speed not the six) was an NV4500. Also had problems with fifth gear falling off, but a far stronger and more serviceable transmission. Jim might have some comments about the repair, I think his had fifth gear fall off on them. 98.5-05 or 06 six speed was an NV5600, which added the 'missing' gear in the five speed, and was a lot stronger. On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 05:32:38PM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: well crap, i thought the manny tranny behind the dodge was good, but the auto was crap, are you saying they are both crap? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 9/11 inside job? [was: GWB]
I was joking, we are discussing the conspiracy theory that says someone deliberately blew up a perfectly good building, right? The extent of damage is rather difficult to estimate -- the building had been evacuated when the towers came down, as had all the adjacent ones, and between the debris, fire, and lack of water pressure, and lack of manpower, no systematic examination was preformed (duh!), and when things had settled down a bit, it was obvious to the fire chief that the building was collapsing and he cleared the area. The failure is probably due to the very large gash down the front AND the burning diesel fuel, stored well above ground because the building was built OVER a ConEd substation. This resulted is an unusual design, with the vertical supports each holding up 2000 sq ft. per floor, rather high if not unprecedented. It appear that the gash in the front facade contained one of these columns, and the failure proceeded upwards to the East utility penthouse. This is visible on some video. The fire chief evacuated the area when the west side of the building began to visibly bulge and start shedding glass, and the building collapsed shortly afterward as the failure propagated along floors 5 and 7, both much heavier than the other floors. There were several fairly intense fires generating very large amounts of black smoke, typical of fuel fires, and the fuel tanks were reported to be breached and possibly burning by the fire crews before they evacuated early in the event, so yes, fire did have a lot to do with the ultimate failure -- steel looses strength long before it gets red hot, and to my amateur eye, there was insufficient redundancy in the structure to survive loss of a single vertical column, and it's likely there was more damage not visible. The building that ended up with a giant spear of outer structure from the towers (DuetscheBank? I don't remember) did not catch fire, but was demolished if I remember correctly due to non-repairable damage. Deliberate demolition does not consist of sticking a chunk of explosive on a few structural elements and smacking the detonator -- the building is deliberately weakend so that it is quite unstable and unable to stand, and the explosives are used only to trigger a controlled collapse. The objective, of course, is to drop the center of the building first, and land the outer walls on the debris to trap it and contain the rubble. Those buildings are NOT safe to enter, and every once in a while don't implode exactly right. I don't know of any offhand that have fallen prematurely, but it's not an amateur's occupation, those guys are all structural engineers, and good ones. No building that can be imploded by a small amount of explosive will stand for long, especially full of furniture, people, and moving elevators. The notion that someone deliberately imploded the building is non- sense -- doesn't look like anything but an unplanned collapse to me. No central collapse, it went pretty much straight down and made a much larger mess than it if has been planned. Besides, no one implodes buildings in the center of a major city, they take them apart instead. Peter On Jun 29, 2008, at 10:41 PM, Steve MacSween wrote: Which explains why it collapsed on September 11? Mac on 6/29/08 23:25, Peter Frederick at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, missed that. Seven? I would suspect it was filled with asbestos and concrete dust, had the windows blown in, the air conditions smashed, and was generally battered around enough that it would be cheaper to replace than refurbish. Most of the buildings in the immediate vicinity suffered considerable damage. And it was the Port Authority's building. Maybe they wanted all new, who knows? Peter On Jun 29, 2008, at 10:17 PM, Steve MacSween wrote: on 6/29/08 23:13, Peter Frederick at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The combustion of 40,000 gallons of aviation fuel, along with the design of the building and the impact damage did them in. I said WTC SEVEN. It was not hit by ANYTHING. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] 87 MBZ 300 D Turbo Excessive Negative Camber
Have you looked at the subframe bushings? There are four, two front and two rear. There should be a half and inch or more space between subframe and body -- if not, likely the mounts are bad. I'm going to use the ones I intended for the old car for the new one this fall when I get the cash to do all the links. Bad mounts may allow the subframe to rotate along the axle centerline, making it look like there is too much camber. It the mounts are good, all that's left is sagging springs. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 9/11 inside job? [was: GWB]
Yeah, that's one of the problems with the WTC -- that coating is not strong enough to withstand an air/diesel fuel explosion, so likely there wasn't much heat protection, quite aside from the asbestos. Turns out to be fairly difficult to get a coating that's insulating enough and hard enough at the same time! I think foamed concrete is more likely today than asbestos, but it's still fragile. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] NeoCons (was 9/11)
If nothing changes, as if they got hold of the short end of the stick. Not enough money (no money at all if certain people get their way), and I don't personally think you can compensate those guys anyway. The average officer in the Army now has more combat experience than a WWII officer, and many of the grunts have MORE. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GWB
The current Bush administration is probably the most corrupt one since Harding, and there seems to be a very high proportion of completely amoral people in there. After all, there is new evidence that they were planning an invasion of Iraq before 9/11, why not speed things up at bit? After 52 years of watching humans, I tend to by more than a bit cynical, true, but these guys take the cake. I'm not talking about something stupid like refusing to believe obvious fact -- look at the behavior and get ready for the rising tide of sewage after the next election. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GWB
My point exactly. Peter On Jun 30, 2008, at 9:30 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: i think that dubya and his crew would be more than capable of engineering 9/11. my impression is that they are absolutely amoral and capable of anything at all. On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary wrote: the story is kind of silly. either we conclude that our president and everyone around him, as well as the entire air defense system, is completely inept or retarded or we conclude that it was an inside job. which works best for you? First of all I don't understand the point of this thread. Was it jut to bash President Bush? At least some of the other Off Topic political threads have some current news. Some people really hate President Bush, that is not a newsflash. Just to clarify your argument. You are arguing that 9/11 was President Bush's fault - either because he is incompetent or he was behind it? Do you feel the same way about the 1993 World Trade Center Bombing? What about the attack on the USS Cole? Was Clinton incompetent or did he plan it? What about the Okla City bombing? Was Bill behind that? How about the bombing of the LA times building in 1910? Was that Taft's fault? What about the Unabomber? (1978-1995) I guess that Carter, Reagan, Bush (GHWB), and Clinton are all at fault for him? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 9/11 inside job? [was: GWB]
Thanks Royce. As one mother of a trader killed in the North Tower said my son died because American Airlines thought a $1500 armored door was too expensive. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 9/11 inside job? [was: GWB]
Peter Frederick wrote: Thanks Royce. As one mother of a trader killed in the North Tower said my son died because American Airlines thought a $1500 armored door was too expensive. Nope. Because pilots would have thought the stewardesses and passengers getting their throats slit would be too expensive. S.O.P. was to cooperate and hope they didn't kill anybody, or hope they didn't kill as many. Funny how cooperate with your murderer is no longer considered the proper course of action on an airplane, but it's still what the media and the government tell us to do everywhere else. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Anti-chafing boot
'Think I'll look at the new Freon hose tomorrow to see if it may be reasonable to put a coupla tiewraps/zipties on it with a bit of tension on them to pull the hose slightly outward away from the power steering hose. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 92 300TE
Fix it, keep it and enjoy it. Wilton - Original Message - From: David Hemsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 6:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 92 300TE I think i will just keep it. Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:34:44 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 92 300TE Where is it located? How much? Probably not worth much though with bad 4matic and ac David Hemsley wrote: Hey Gang,Thinking abour sellng what used to be my Dad's 300TE 4matic.I am wondering if I can get a guestimate of what this vehicle might be worth.The 4Matic has never worked since I got it. Rear passenger window decided not to go up but rather down about one week ago. I took the headlights out to work on the wipers. Now I have working wipers but no headlights. Everything was so brittle the frames and connectors broke. No AC. An Indy says otherwise but I believe he broke my aux. fan which in turn punctured my condensor. Same Indy when I picked the vehicle up the windshield had a crack in it.Excellent tires all around. Exterior body in good condition, one scratch/dent on passenger's front fender (Another Wal Mart do damage and drive off. I gotta stop shopping at Wal Mart) Interior is in VERY good condition. Somewhere near 180,000 miles on it.Approx. $6,000.00 worth of engine and suspension work maybe 500 miles agoWhat do you all think? Dave H.. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com-- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rack and Pinion Issues
http://tinyurl.com/5ctgl9 This is the only answer to my question. I called the stealership today and they said that there are no outstanding recalls for my car. The symptoms are while during slow speed turns over rough surfaces the steering locks up for about half a second, then releases. It is not like the power steering is going away then coming back; it is like it hits a hard stop, then releases. Bob R riginal Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Robbins Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 6:51 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rack and Pinion Issues Robert Rentfro wrote: Since no one on our little list seems to know about the steering malady I described on my '05 E320 (locking up in low speed turns over bumps), I put a post on the MBCA forum. Some dude there says there are some issues with the rack and pinion on W211s and stealerships are replacing them before the warranty goes out. No, but I'm very interested now. Are there any other symptoms? Will they replace it if it is out of warranty? I've got 77k on mine now... Whats the link to the thread? Thanks! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rack and Pinion Issues
Good idea. It sounds like they were telling me to get lost in a nice way. One dealer didn't call me back, and all the other dealer would say was that there was no outstanding recalls for my car...not really addressing my issue. Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 6:59 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rack and Pinion Issues John Robbins wrote: No, but I'm very interested now. Are there any other symptoms? Will they replace it if it is out of warranty? I've got 77k on mine now... Probably not since you are not the original owner. But if you let the district service manager know you intend to file a NHTSA safety complaint if they don't fix it for you... I'm not sure what strategy I'd take there, after asking politely to have the defect cured. Would you threaten them with the 4x4 upside the head, or just file the complaint and let them show NHTSA that they are fixing your dangerous problem? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rack and Pinion Issues
This I shall do. Thanks, Mr. Jim. I'm driving back to Illinois next week. Perhaps I'll do it this weekend. Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 7:23 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rack and Pinion Issues Bob, ? I had asked the list if your car (and the 85) had a rack and pinion, but got no response. ? The first thing I would do is change the power steering fluid.? If MB doesn't have a recommended synthetic, I would use Mobil 1 ATF. ? Jim in Phoenix -Original Message- From: John Robbins lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; To: Mercedes Discussion List lt;mercedes@okiebenz.comgt; Sent: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 7:51 am Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rack and Pinion Issues Robert Rentfro wrote: gt; Since no one on our little list seems to know about the steering malady I gt; described on my '05 E320 (locking up in low speed turns over bumps), I put a gt; post on the MBCA forum. Some dude there says there are some issues with the gt; rack and pinion on W211s and stealerships are replacing them before the gt; warranty goes out. No, but I'm very interested now. Are there any other symptoms? Will they replace it if it is out of warranty? I've got 77k on mine now...Whats the link to the thread?Thanks! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 92 300TE
yep I think that is probably the best thing for me to do. Sometimes reality hurts. :) I was not looking to get another vehicle just scale down as I have to many vehicles. Did not think for a minute I could get what I have put into it bt certainly did nto expect to give it away either. But, as I see it put another 1,500/2,000 into it and it will then outlast me. :) Dave H... From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:36:44 -0400 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 92 300TE Fix it, keep it and enjoy it. Wilton - Original Message - From: David Hemsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 6:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 92 300TE I think i will just keep it. Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:34:44 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 92 300TE Where is it located? How much? Probably not worth much though with bad 4matic and ac David Hemsley wrote: Hey Gang,Thinking abour sellng what used to be my Dad's 300TE 4matic.I am wondering if I can get a guestimate of what this vehicle might be worth.The 4Matic has never worked since I got it. Rear passenger window decided not to go up but rather down about one week ago. I took the headlights out to work on the wipers. Now I have working wipers but no headlights. Everything was so brittle the frames and connectors broke. No AC. An Indy says otherwise but I believe he broke my aux. fan which in turn punctured my condensor. Same Indy when I picked the vehicle up the windshield had a crack in it. Excellent tires all around. Exterior body in good condition, one scratch/dent on passenger's front fender (Another Wal Mart do damage and drive off. I gotta stop shopping at Wal Mart) Interior is in VERY good condition. Somewhere near 180,000 miles on it.Approx. $6,000.00 worth of engine and suspension work maybe 500 miles agoWhat do you all think? Dave H.. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED]To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com-- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 92 300TE
Otherwise, you MAY be able to get Kaleb to give you his standard $500 for it. Wilton - Original Message - From: David Hemsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 92 300TE yep I think that is probably the best thing for me to do. Sometimes reality hurts. :) I was not looking to get another vehicle just scale down as I have to many vehicles. Did not think for a minute I could get what I have put into it bt certainly did nto expect to give it away either. But, as I see it put another 1,500/2,000 into it and it will then outlast me. :) Dave H... From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:36:44 -0400 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 92 300TE Fix it, keep it and enjoy it. Wilton - Original Message - From: David Hemsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 6:40 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 92 300TE I think i will just keep it. Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 17:34:44 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 92 300TE Where is it located? How much? Probably not worth much though with bad 4matic and ac David Hemsley wrote: Hey Gang,Thinking abour sellng what used to be my Dad's 300TE 4matic.I am wondering if I can get a guestimate of what this vehicle might be worth.The 4Matic has never worked since I got it. Rear passenger window decided not to go up but rather down about one week ago. I took the headlights out to work on the wipers. Now I have working wipers but no headlights. Everything was so brittle the frames and connectors broke. No AC. An Indy says otherwise but I believe he broke my aux. fan which in turn punctured my condensor. Same Indy when I picked the vehicle up the windshield had a crack in it.Excellent tires all around. Exterior body in good condition, one scratch/dent on passenger's front fender (Another Wal Mart do damage and drive off. I gotta stop shopping at Wal Mart) Interior is in VERY good condition. Somewhere near 180,000 miles on it.Approx. $6,000.00 worth of engine and suspension work maybe 500 miles agoWhat do you all think? Dave H.. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com-- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 86 560SL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] GWB
As if all this after the fact stuff isn't sufficient proof of the culpability of the main person responsible for much of the current mess our country faces, as the historians are already writing this moron's epitaph and it doesn't look good. For those of you who may not be aware, I really wonder how this individual could be defined as guilty in the SEC investigation of the Harken Energy fiasco without ever facing any penalty. And this before so many knowing folks voted for him in 2000. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 92 300TE
Thanks but NO Thanks:) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:18:58 -0400 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 92 300TE Otherwise, you MAY be able to get Kaleb to give you his standard $500 for it. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Obama - guns and stereotypes
At 02:35 PM 6/30/2008, Curt wrote: I'm almost militantly moderate and don't really see anything all that appealing in either candidate. I voted in the Republican primary for Ron Paul... That said I'm going to vote Obama mostly to give the finger to the racists. But then you would not be deciding the contest based on your judgment as to the best qualified candidate. Race would be the deciding factor, not merit - wouldn't that make you a racist? One could make a case that most of the racism so far has come from the black voters. Obama regularly scored 90-95% of the black vote in the primaries. Was this because his platform was so different from Clinton's? I am hopeful that Rice will be McCain's running mate. From what I have read her biography is just as jazzy as Obama's. And that would put a black on each ticket, with no place for the racists to hide. Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV The brain runs on fun. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Ballsy? Or stupid?
Should be nice when you get done. Next time, fill the tank with water or CO2. Tried the water once, bad idea. (Not unworkable, but fraught with issues.) I think filling it with CO wasn't a bad idea. The streamers of volatile hydrocarbons that seeped out the patch during welding didn't ignite, even in the presence of open flame. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Obama - guns and stereotypes
I don't like Condi at all but when you put it that way I'd like to see her as the running mate also... -Curt --- On Mon, 6/30/08, Kris Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kris Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Obama - guns and stereotypes To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Monday, June 30, 2008, 9:02 PM At 02:35 PM 6/30/2008, Curt wrote: I'm almost militantly moderate and don't really see anything all that appealing in either candidate. I voted in the Republican primary for Ron Paul... That said I'm going to vote Obama mostly to give the finger to the racists. But then you would not be deciding the contest based on your judgment as to the best qualified candidate. Race would be the deciding factor, not merit - wouldn't that make you a racist? One could make a case that most of the racism so far has come from the black voters. Obama regularly scored 90-95% of the black vote in the primaries. Was this because his platform was so different from Clinton's? I am hopeful that Rice will be McCain's running mate. From what I have read her biography is just as jazzy as Obama's. And that would put a black on each ticket, with no place for the racists to hide. Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV The brain runs on fun. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Ballsy? Or stupid?
As he was cutting the tank up it caught fire and ended up burning down his 'new' house. Sounds like you used more intelligent job rules than he did. My primary rule is that all welding is done outside. No exceptions. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rack and Pinion Issues
Robert Rentfro wrote: http://tinyurl.com/5ctgl9 Does that tinyurl resolve to a private message in your mbca forum account? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
