Re: [MBZ] Lock cylinder lube
Blue stuff, those struts are meant to be replaced now and again. More than likely you have corrosion, been a while since I done a 123 but you need the right tools. Hendrik who spend up big on a quality 1/4 and 3/8 drive metric socket set, ahh the joy of not having sockets fall off the handle all the time andrew strasfogel wrote: What would they have used in Stuttgart? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Changing front break pads on 1984 300SD
Hi, After the nice fellow at the gas station told me that he needed 200 dollars to change my brake pads before he would pass me for the safety inspection I decided to change the front pads on my own (with a little help from the manual and phone support from my dad). I managed to get the old ones out and one of the new ones in (the inner one) on the right front wheel, but I can not seem to get enough room to get the other pad in. I've been using a C clamp to compress the piston but I can't seem to get enough room. I am somewhat new to car repair and I enjoy it but I am inexperienced and I am doing this alone. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! Chris ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Changing front break pads on 1984 300SD
G'day Chris, you must be the only person in the world that enjoys car repairs :-D Anyway first question is whether your car is equipped with ABS (anti locking brake system), you should have a ABS light on the dash if you do. If you have ABS then you should not push old brake fluid back into the system as it can damage the ABS pump. I take it you removed some of the brake fluid from the reservoir before pushing the pads back? If not make sure that your reservoir has not overflown and ruined the paint work. Assuming you do not have ABS, then it is a matter of removing some of the fluid from the reservoir and using a G clamp to push the piston back into the bore, best of to place a piece of wood across the piston and position the clamp in the middle of the piston because if the piston goes in crooked it will jam, which may have happened in your situation. Hendrik who hates working on dirty and dusty brake systems Chris Thomas wrote: Hi, After the nice fellow at the gas station told me that he needed 200 dollars to change my brake pads before he would pass me for the safety inspection I decided to change the front pads on my own (with a little help from the manual and phone support from my dad). I managed to get the old ones out and one of the new ones in (the inner one) on the right front wheel, but I can not seem to get enough room to get the other pad in. I've been using a C clamp to compress the piston but I can't seem to get enough room. I am somewhat new to car repair and I enjoy it but I am inexperienced and I am doing this alone. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! Chris ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Changing front break pads on 1984 300SD
It seems than at Wed, 20 Aug 2008 02:42:53 -0400, Chris wrote: Hi, After the nice fellow at the gas station told me that he needed 200 dollars to change my brake pads before he would pass me for the safety inspection I decided to change the front pads on my own (with a little help from the manual and phone support from my dad). I managed to get the old ones out and one of the new ones in (the inner one) on the right front wheel, but I can not seem to get enough room to get the other pad in. I've been using a C clamp to compress the piston but I can't seem to get enough room. I am somewhat new to car repair and I enjoy it but I am inexperienced and I am doing this alone. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! I'm not sure about your car, but all of my W123s from the same time period use dual piston calipers. Thus it's necessary to squeeze both back at the same time. It's also important to be sure to press square on the pistons. More than a little crooked and it can wedge in the bore. The next most likely culprit is dirt or rust getting in the way of smooth piston movement. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MBZ Ignition Key will not turn
Thanks for finishing my thought. I tried to hint at that idea, but never actually said it. I wasn't fully awake at the time -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (278,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (181 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion Quoting Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you do get it to turn again, just remove it and start the thing with a screw driver till you get the new one in. Luther wrote: Next time you get the key to turn (if there is one...) you MUST leave the key turned!!! (I have had success by turning against the key and wiggling the steering wheel back and forth until the key turns.) The tumbler cylinder has failed and you need to order a VIN keyed tumbler from Rusty, your local stealership, or MB Classic yesterday. Remove the cylinder at anytime after you get it to turn. Turn the lock to position 2 (run position) and insert a paper clip into the small hole on the face of the tumbler. This will allow the black ring to unscrew off the cylinder. Replacement is the same as removal. Here is a tutorial on how to remove the cylinder if you cannot get the key to turn. http://dieselgiant.com/mercedes_diesel_maintenance_tips1%20page%202.htm Hope this helps. Luther ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - B-70, B-52, B-1, etc.
At 7:26 PM -0400 8/19/08, Wilton Strickland wrote: I flew a LOT of LOW level; I pounded my students all the time about the altimeter - ya can't get much airspeed spread over the side of a hill. Altitude above you, runway behind you and fuel back at the airport... ;) (three most useless things in aviation) -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ignition key will not turn
Yes, he does. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ignition key will not turn I don't think Rusty does that anymore. On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: First, with the car's VIN, order a new lock cylinder from Rusty ... -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Changing front brake pads on 1984 300SD
I've been using a C clamp to compress the piston but I can't seem to get enough room. That's generally the right approach, though you may have to liberate the caliper from the car (two bolts, don't unhook the hydraulic hose) in order to get the clamp in there far enough to squeeze the puck back in squarely. Don't stress the hose. They get dirty/rusty enough that it may be necessary to 'rebuild' it. That's messy, but if the rubber is actually in good shape you can get by with removing the puck(s) and cleaning them up with 600-grit wet/dry sandpaper wetted with brake fluid or water. Rub gently, the pucks clean up nice and smooth as they're hard-chromed. Clean the piston bores similarly. Then they go back together. To do this the caliper comes off the car. I use a grease gun filled with water to pump the pucks out of the caliper, that's much safer than using air pressure. Thoroughly washed inside and out, I then use air to blow-dry everything. At that point one can even paint the calipers if one so desired. If the rubber sealing boot and/or square-profiled O-ring seal have deteriorated then it's time to do the full rebuild, which is the same as described above but with new rubber. I don't do this if the pucks can be pushed back in reasonably in the first place. They should actually slide fairly easily. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Changing front brake pads on 1984 300SD
The problem with pulling the caliper is that as you compress one side, the other side over extends. The only solution is to use 2 C-clamps, one on each side of the caliper. One holds the opposing side in place while you compress the other. A better solution is to leave the caliper on the car, leave the old shoes in place then use a large screwdriver as a lever to push the pad pistons back. Do one side of the caliper, pull the pad replace it then do the other. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 8:13 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Changing front brake pads on 1984 300SD I've been using a C clamp to compress the piston but I can't seem to get enough room. That's generally the right approach, though you may have to liberate the caliper from the car (two bolts, don't unhook the hydraulic hose) in order to get the clamp in there far enough to squeeze the puck back in squarely. Don't stress the hose. They get dirty/rusty enough that it may be necessary to 'rebuild' it. That's messy, but if the rubber is actually in good shape you can get by with removing the puck(s) and cleaning them up with 600-grit wet/dry sandpaper wetted with brake fluid or water. Rub gently, the pucks clean up nice and smooth as they're hard-chromed. Clean the piston bores similarly. Then they go back together. To do this the caliper comes off the car. I use a grease gun filled with water to pump the pucks out of the caliper, that's much safer than using air pressure. Thoroughly washed inside and out, I then use air to blow-dry everything. At that point one can even paint the calipers if one so desired. If the rubber sealing boot and/or square-profiled O-ring seal have deteriorated then it's time to do the full rebuild, which is the same as described above but with new rubber. I don't do this if the pucks can be pushed back in reasonably in the first place. They should actually slide fairly easily. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1623 - Release Date: 8/20/2008 8:12 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1623 - Release Date: 8/20/2008 8:12 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Changing front brake pads on 1984 300SD
Please, please, please do not use abrasives of any kind on the caliper pistons or or bores! You will leave grit in the chrome plating and bore, which will cause them to bind and drag (ro not work) and if you remove enough material, they will cock and jam, too. If the crud doesn't come off with brake parts cleaner and a clean paper towel, replace the caliper. If you do pull the pistons, please get a rebuild kit and replace the seal and dust boot -- this will restore the caliper to nearly new condition. Costs about $30 per side, I think. Note that you dont' really have a choice about rebuilding or replacing the caliper if the dust boot around the piston is torn -- it will be full of dust and the piston will stick. If this is the case, pull it and inspect for corrosion to the piston -- corroded pistons mean a replacement caliper, I've never had any luck polishing them up with abrasive, they just stick again. Peter -Original Message- From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Aug 20, 2008 9:13 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Changing front brake pads on 1984 300SD I've been using a C clamp to compress the piston but I can't seem to get enough room. That's generally the right approach, though you may have to liberate the caliper from the car (two bolts, don't unhook the hydraulic hose) in order to get the clamp in there far enough to squeeze the puck back in squarely. Don't stress the hose. They get dirty/rusty enough that it may be necessary to 'rebuild' it. That's messy, but if the rubber is actually in good shape you can get by with removing the puck(s) and cleaning them up with 600-grit wet/dry sandpaper wetted with brake fluid or water. Rub gently, the pucks clean up nice and smooth as they're hard-chromed. Clean the piston bores similarly. Then they go back together. To do this the caliper comes off the car. I use a grease gun filled with water to pump the pucks out of the caliper, that's much safer than using air pressure. Thoroughly washed inside and out, I then use air to blow-dry everything. At that point one can even paint the calipers if one so desired. If the rubber sealing boot and/or square-profiled O-ring seal have deteriorated then it's time to do the full rebuild, which is the same as described above but with new rubber. I don't do this if the pucks can be pushed back in reasonably in the first place. They should actually slide fairly easily. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ignition key will not turn
After much prayer and sweat, the key had turned! Thanks for all the input! I will start working on it this weekend. Ken ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ignition key will not turn
Hi Ken What was your technique? Thanks Harry - Original Message - From: Ken Rushing [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ignition key will not turn After much prayer and sweat, the key had turned! Thanks for all the input! I will start working on it this weekend. Ken ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - B-70, B-52, B-1, etc.
Some of those training flights flew low over my house in the 80-85 timeframe. I loved it. A B-52 is awesome, but one coming over your head at low altitude in hilly, timbered terrain will teach you what awe is. At 06:26 PM 8/19/2008, you wrote: Yeah, it'll kill ya. Entire B-52H crew was killed several days ago near Guam. They were very low over water; 'gonna do a low pass over downtown Agana, Guam, to celebrate liberation from Japanese. We don't know the detailed facts, yet, of course, 'may never know, but I suspect they either turned too sharply and caught a wing tip or just descended gradually with nobody watching the altimeter and just flew into the water. Either way, it especially upsetting to me, knowing there were at least four well-trained aviators (2 pilots , 2 navigators) aboard who were supposed to be watching the altimeter. There used to be discussions amongst us aircrewmen about what is the most important instrument on the aircraft. Some of us maintained that it was airspeed indicator, but I always maintained that it was the altimeter. Yea, I know ya gotta have airspeed to fly, but if ya have altitude you can GET some airspeed, but if you're out of altitude, you're not gonna have airspeed very long. I flew a LOT of LOW level; I pounded my students all the time about the altimeter - ya can't get much airspeed spread over the side of a hill. Wilton - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - B-70, B-52, B-1, etc. Thanks Wilton! At 02:02 PM 8/19/2008, you wrote: There's a saying amongst contemporary B-52 aircrewmen, When the last B-1 and/or B-2 is delivered to the bone yard, a B-52 will take the crew back home. Why get rid of a really good thing - long-range bomber, MB, wife? Many of the same folks that designed the B-17 were still at work with the 52 was designed. Durability: B17, B52, C47/DC3. 123 240D There is some comfort too in flying plane older than you are, or driving a car that was on the road before you were born. Tends to combat massive egos by reminding you that there were things before you and other things besides you, and things will be, after you are long gone too. Kinda like Old Man River. It was there, it is there, and it will be there. Enjoy it but respect it, or it will kill you. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop
I've cured a clunking downshift by properly adjusting the transmission modulator to the correct working pressure. Too high and you get clunks. Too low and you get flaring. Adjusting it per the book with a gauge is the only way to know for sure. Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 8/19/08, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess I should have asked whether a bad vacuum control valve will cause the symptoms that I describe (clunking on downshifts). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a heck of a deal on a brand new #22 head
Curious ... If it is new then why is it listed as: IT HAS BEEN DEBURRED AND BOILED AT THE MACHINE SHOP George Larribeau Dallas Texas - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 10:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] a heck of a deal on a brand new #22 head Well you would normally pay about 2500 for a bare head, and still need valves, prechambers etc Christopher McCann wrote: I realize that is the OM603 Holy Grail, but is that really a good price or are you being facetious? Chris Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCEDES-CYLINDER-HEAD-6030109620-300TDT-300SDL-350SD_W0QQitemZ160273916197QQihZ006QQcategoryZ33617QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 560SL, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W201 190D Transmission vacuum diagram/advice needed
If I remember right, the W123 diesels, up to about 1984, didn't have the vacuum amplifier. These systems were much more sensitive to vacuum leaks and adjustment. Starting in 1985, they incorporated the vacuum amplifier. Wouldn't surprise me if a properly sealed and adjusted vacuum system wouldn't work just as well without the amp. Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 8/19/08, Tyler Backman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting! So I guess mercedes themselves eventually decided that the vacuum amplifier was unnecessarily complicated? If so, that settles it. I'll keep it this way :) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Changing front brake pads on 1984 300SD
Thanks Tom, that is how I do it. At 08:25 AM 8/20/2008, you wrote: The problem with pulling the caliper is that as you compress one side, the other side over extends. The only solution is to use 2 C-clamps, one on each side of the caliper. One holds the opposing side in place while you compress the other. A better solution is to leave the caliper on the car, leave the old shoes in place then use a large screwdriver as a lever to push the pad pistons back. Do one side of the caliper, pull the pad replace it then do the other. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 8:13 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Changing front brake pads on 1984 300SD I've been using a C clamp to compress the piston but I can't seem to get enough room. That's generally the right approach, though you may have to liberate the caliper from the car (two bolts, don't unhook the hydraulic hose) in order to get the clamp in there far enough to squeeze the puck back in squarely. Don't stress the hose. They get dirty/rusty enough that it may be necessary to 'rebuild' it. That's messy, but if the rubber is actually in good shape you can get by with removing the puck(s) and cleaning them up with 600-grit wet/dry sandpaper wetted with brake fluid or water. Rub gently, the pucks clean up nice and smooth as they're hard-chromed. Clean the piston bores similarly. Then they go back together. To do this the caliper comes off the car. I use a grease gun filled with water to pump the pucks out of the caliper, that's much safer than using air pressure. Thoroughly washed inside and out, I then use air to blow-dry everything. At that point one can even paint the calipers if one so desired. If the rubber sealing boot and/or square-profiled O-ring seal have deteriorated then it's time to do the full rebuild, which is the same as described above but with new rubber. I don't do this if the pucks can be pushed back in reasonably in the first place. They should actually slide fairly easily. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1623 - Release Date: 8/20/2008 8:12 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1623 - Release Date: 8/20/2008 8:12 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Changing front brake pads on 1984 300SD
A better solution is to leave the caliper on the car, leave the old shoes in place then use a large screwdriver as a lever to push the pad pistons back. Do one side of the caliper, pull the pad replace it then do the other. That works pretty good. I often use big vise-grips to pinch the ears of each old brake pad to the caliper body, compressing the piston. That, in conjunction with a big screwdriver of a configuration that is unlikely to mar the rotor, seems to work well unless the pistons are getting sticky and need attention. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Lock cylinder lube
WD-40 can be wicked stuff. A friend that uses it on everything had me look at the 2-way radio on his boat when it stopped working. He finally admitted to spraying WD-40 under the faceplate to lubricate the volume control when it started sticking. It fixed the sticking problem, but insulated the wipe pad on the potentiometer so that it was open (infinite resistance). I would expect the same results with relays and switches. Cleaning with acetone got rid of the residue. -Dave Walton On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 12:22 AM, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, WD-40 is a water dispersant, and turns into rubber cement with age. NEVER use it for lubrication, it's not a lubricant! It consists of propane, light kerosene, and a few linear hydrocarbon compounds and some ethers of some sort. Does a great job of removing water from distributor caps and things like that, but the residue is VERY gummy! I would suggest a dry silicone lubricant -- that is, a fairly long chain dimethy poly siloxane of some sort. I used to have a bottle of Supelco SE-50, which is really a gas chromatography stationary phase, but it make a great dry lubricant. Hard to pick up things coated with it they are so slippery. I dissolves in hexane. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: The Vista disaster continues for Microsoft
I think that one of the issues may be the quality of the hardware. My elder son is using a new HP laptop with Vista and he likes it fine. We were a bit concerned when we got it and wondered if we ought to just reload XP but he decided to try it and says it has worked fine for the past 3 mnths or so. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 3:01 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The Vista disaster continues for Microsoft I am surprised it is so small. I would expect at least 1/2 of the sucker to side-grade (upgrade?) to XP. If 1/3 change, and 1/3 switch to make vista behave as 2000 (classic) then the rest are just stuck, or maybe a few actually like it. At 03:12 PM 8/19/2008, you wrote: Over 1/3 of people who buy Vista end up downgrading to XP. http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasicarticleId=9112885 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Difference on Taxes
Clay, You have an unstated premise in your arguments: That the purpose of human life is to contribute to economic prosperity, and the value of each persons life is proportional to their relative contribution. This is an inherently flawed way of looking at it, because economic systems are tools developed by people to improve their lives, not the other way around. An economic system has no value unless it's providing a benefit to humans, but humans still can have intrinsic value without providing a benefit to economic systems. This type of thinking is what leads to justification of gross injustice (see the Summers memo at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summers_Memo) . Nevertheless, it's clear that our planet is far above it's sustainable carrying capacity, at least with the levels of resource consumption people currently have (see http://jclahr.com/bartlett/). That still doesn't give you a right to play god by using your own value system to decide who lives or dies. I highly suggest reading the writings of Professor Albert A. Bartlett (see previous url) for some insight into the causes and solutions to the overpopulation problem that don't involve you becoming king of the world and executing people based on their relative economic contributions. Also, these people that you say aren't keep[ing] the economy chugging along and should be let go are also likely consuming much less resources, and contributing less to both global warming and over- consumption of resources than those who are. By your own logic (which I want to be clear that I disagree with) you are choosing the wrong group of people to let go. There is a single proven sustainable way to live on our planet: the way that indigenous peoples have been living around the world for thousands of years. I am guessing that the people that you say are smart, well fed, well resourced people are living the least like the indigenous peoples, and are contributing the most to the problem. If I've misunderstood what you're saying please let me know, but it comes across as self-contradictory the way I'm reading it. Sincerely, Tyler On Aug 19, 2008, at 5:52 PM, Redghost wrote: come on Luther! There are 6.x BILLION humans around. How many of the 300 million Americans are actually holding down a job that serves to make the nation better or even keeps the economy chugging along? I am thinking there are a few million folks on the mainland that could be let go and we would not even feel a hiccough in the national fabric. Could have a huge rebound effect on the amount of funds needed to support them that is now available for roads, schools, infrastructure upgrades or defense. Could pay teachers and nurses a decent wage for the work they do to strengthen our kids and health care. Just think, SMART and HEALTHY citizens! What of the drain all the underproductive people worldwide are having? Can these african nations truly support millions of starving people? Can the Amazon support all the folks going in to clear, burn, and leave sterile after a few years? Can the world support that kind of abuse and not have a very bad reaction down the road? All this whining about global climate change is not going to quiet down until there are fewer humans suckling at the drying out teat. When business and such goes bad in your town, most folks just pick up and move on to where there are resources to support them. Where is that place now? Not China. Not India, Not Africa. Not even Latin America. You plan on heading north to Canada when the heat gets unbearable? I am sure a couple hundred million other citizens are looking at that too. Sadly the land there will not support such an influx of refugees. This planet does not even support the current population and we continue to spew more people out. The rich will continue to prosper and the poor will breed themselves into horrors we have not seen on a global scale. Soon enough there will not be enough smart, well fed, well resourced people left to keep the global economy in motion. Then there will be a massive collapse and what you feel is moral will be about as important as the dust in a holed bucket. I really like the way my life is going and do not wish any of the horrors I have seen afflict my fellow man. I am realistic enough to acknowledge that what I want is really insignificant in the grand scope of the universe. At any given time there is just so much to go around. When it is gone, it is gone and you have to pass GO to get anymore. clay On 19 Aug 2008, at 15:54, Luther wrote: You, my friend, might be one of those that needs to be shipped off to your own Soylent Green Factory since your brain has ceased to use logic. Sometimes your logic works and is ok, but when you are way off base and far out in your radicalism, you are beyond help. Luther ___
Re: [MBZ] OT: The Vista disaster continues for Microsoft
I'd say it's the performance of the hardware that makes your sons new HP laptop run vista well (rather than the quality). Vista is so bloated and slow that it requires all of the resources of the fastest new computers to just perform basic tasks like web browsing. A truly excellent operating system (OpenBSD is a good example) uses a miniscule portion of system resources to just run, leaving the rest of your system free to do the tasks you assign it to. I can run the latest version of OpenBSD on my Sun SparcStation LX made in the late 80s. It has only 24mb of ram, a 200mb hard drive, and a (50? mhz) slow cpu. It runs fast enough to serve a modern web page to multiple users, and route a 1 megabit internet connection to multiple computers at the same time. Imagine how much resources it must leave free for further use on a new computer that literally has over 200 times the system resources available! Sincerely, Tyler William H Backman 1987 190D Turbo Biodiesel On Aug 20, 2008, at 9:57 AM, R A Bennell wrote: I think that one of the issues may be the quality of the hardware. My elder son is using a new HP laptop with Vista and he likes it fine. We were a bit concerned when we got it and wondered if we ought to just reload XP but he decided to try it and says it has worked fine for the past 3 mnths or so. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 88 Hammer wagon on fleabay.
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 10:58 PM, Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oooh looks like he has come down 10K in price, only another 20K to go and he may get a buyer. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260275107873 Some background http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=42870 http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=42871 Hendrik with a S124 but only a 6 banger under the bonnet Did all Hammers (or all '80s AMG cars) come with that weird bird's-eye maple interior trim? It clashes terribly with the black leather to my eye, but to each his own, I suppose. If the car's been repainted and they switched to Euro lights, why didn't they install the matching Euro headlight wipers or else replace the DOT-spec panels under the headlight lenses with the blank ones from a 260E, instead of leaving the little abandoned nipples for the headlight washers? And what's with new A/C system - correct R134? No 1988 car came with 134 from the factory. The only correct thing to do if you were replacing the entire A/C on an '80s Mercedes would be to use original componentry and charge it with R12. Although a much better idea if you weren't so concerned about authenticity would be to upgrade everything with the parts used in 1994-95 124s (designed for 134) including a copper evaporator. You'd never have to worry about the A/C again. If I'm paying $40K for that monster, I definitely want the kiddies and dog in the back-back seat to be nice and cool while I'm pulling 1+ Gs around every corner. Alex Chamberlain with two plain-jane six-hole 124s like Hendrik's ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop
What's a gauge. Just kidding, I'm not that bovine. I know what they are, but I don't do gauges in the quantitative sense. I do cookbook, pictures, and mentoreeing under the guidance of a certified technician. I may have been adjusting the transmission modulator w/o knowing what it is called. Is it the tiny little crank doodad under the car that you pull out and turn CW or CCW? I've done that - first 8 circles CW to cure flaring, then 6X CCW to cure clunking. This required me to jack up the car and slide underneath while holding my breath, so it's not one of my favorite activities, which is why I am in the market for a garage lift (even it's a mere 9.5 ft. from floor to ceiling). On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Gary Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I've cured a clunking downshift by properly adjusting the transmission modulator to the correct working pressure. Too high and you get clunks. Too low and you get flaring. Adjusting it per the book with a gauge is the only way to know for sure. Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 8/19/08, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess I should have asked whether a bad vacuum control valve will cause the symptoms that I describe (clunking on downshifts). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Difference on Taxes
Tyler Backman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: There is a single proven sustainable way to live on our planet: the way that indigenous peoples have been living around the world for thousands of years. Sustainable for who (or what?). Not the people Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:43 AM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I may have been adjusting the transmission modulator w/o knowing what it is called. Is it the tiny little crank doodad under the car that you pull out and turn CW or CCW? I've done that - first 8 circles CW to cure flaring, then 6X CCW to cure clunking. At the risk of going Marshall on you, please CHECK THE VACUUM SYSTEM before you play with the transmission modulator! On every car I've seen the modulator pressure was right on spec or nearly so without any tweaks, and turning it one way or the other just made things worse. Chasing down vacuum leaks is tedious and less satisfying than turning the little crank doodad, but it is FAR MORE LIKELY to lead you to a properly shifting transmission! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Difference on Taxes
The planet, obviously. Of course, in the ideal Fairtax world we can all strive to earn and KEEP enough $$s to afford our own personal planet. On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 1:44 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tyler Backman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: There is a single proven sustainable way to live on our planet: the way that indigenous peoples have been living around the world for thousands of years. Sustainable for who (or what?). Not the people Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop
OK! There is nothing more tedious than jacking up the wagon etc. to turn the tiny crank, so I guess I am motivated to learn something new. Where do I go for the cookbook? On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:43 AM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I may have been adjusting the transmission modulator w/o knowing what it is called. Is it the tiny little crank doodad under the car that you pull out and turn CW or CCW? I've done that - first 8 circles CW to cure flaring, then 6X CCW to cure clunking. At the risk of going Marshall on you, please CHECK THE VACUUM SYSTEM before you play with the transmission modulator! On every car I've seen the modulator pressure was right on spec or nearly so without any tweaks, and turning it one way or the other just made things worse. Chasing down vacuum leaks is tedious and less satisfying than turning the little crank doodad, but it is FAR MORE LIKELY to lead you to a properly shifting transmission! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Difference on Taxes
I'm not quite sure what you're asking. It's sustainable in that most indigenous peoples (the ones that are still around) have found a way to use their natural resources almost indefinitely without depleting them, and consequently wiping themselves out. Any culture that has been living almost the same way for thousands of years must have found a way to use it's resources sustainably, or else it would have wiped itself out long ago, as my (our?) society is working on doing. I define sustainability in terms of three factors: cultural, economic, and environmental. Cultural sustainability means that a culture is able to continue to exist with regard to its own value system (things it wishes to stay the same do so). Economic sustainability means that the people are able to maintain sufficient economic prosperity to survive. Environmental sustainability means that the environment and ecosystem isn't being destroyed or changed in ways that eliminate the resources people need to obtain food, water, and shelter. A sustainable way of living needs to be sustainable with regard to all 3 factors, which are inter-related, and can't exist without one another. Does that clarify what I mean by sustainable, what exactly is being sustained, and why? Tyler On Aug 20, 2008, at 10:44 AM, Allan Streib wrote: Tyler Backman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: There is a single proven sustainable way to live on our planet: the way that indigenous peoples have been living around the world for thousands of years. Sustainable for who (or what?). Not the people Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] A new kind of Illinois politician
Here's a quote from a Illinois Congressional candidate's campaign site. I must say I agree with every word: Why am I running As voters, we have become dissatisfied with the options we are left with on the day of the election. Too often, we have spent our time voting for the lesser of two evils, rather than anyone whose ideas truly inspire us. Sometimes, we just vote against someone who's just really terrible, holding our noses and saying Anyone would be better than that other guy! It's a disappointing state of affairs that the two parties have left us in. Can't a country like ours with its human capital and resources, come up with something better than the hucksters we have in Congress? I don't know. Once they get elected, it seems to only take a few months before they are shaped into a Washington politician. It's time for us to either stop caring, or to get more involved. I'm not ready to stop caring. Are you? Please take some time to learn more about my ideas for a better government. http://www.stevoforcongress.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A new kind of Illinois politician
There's nothing to disagree with. It can be summed up like this: I don't like everything the people in congress are doing. If you don't either, vote for me because I'll do something different. He doesn't even hint at what he's unhappy about, or would do differently. He could be thinking I'm upset that congress doesn't require everybody to dye their hair blue, and I'm going to get elected and fix that. Sincerely, Tyler William H Backman 1987 190D Turbo Biodiesel On Aug 20, 2008, at 11:04 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Here's a quote from a Illinois Congressional candidate's campaign site. I must say I agree with every word: Why am I running As voters, we have become dissatisfied with the options we are left with on the day of the election. Too often, we have spent our time voting for the lesser of two evils, rather than anyone whose ideas truly inspire us. Sometimes, we just vote against someone who's just really terrible, holding our noses and saying Anyone would be better than that other guy! It's a disappointing state of affairs that the two parties have left us in. Can't a country like ours with its human capital and resources, come up with something better than the hucksters we have in Congress? I don't know. Once they get elected, it seems to only take a few months before they are shaped into a Washington politician. It's time for us to either stop caring, or to get more involved. I'm not ready to stop caring. Are you? Please take some time to learn more about my ideas for a better government. http://www.stevoforcongress.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop
Andrew, Here's what you need... http://www.asedeals.com/ low_rise_lifts.htmlOn the inexpensive side. A low rise lift to give clearance for your underneath and not push up the floor above.. Chuck why I am in the market for a garage lift (even it's a mere 9.5 ft. from floor to ceiling). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Ignition Key will not turn
Last night I jiggled the key, yanked on the steering wheel, kept turning the steering wheel and nothing. This morning before going to work, after I prayed a desperate prayer, did the same thing. And it turned! Thanks! Ken ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A new kind of Illinois politician
Tyler Backman wrote: There's nothing to disagree with. It can be summed up like this: I don't like everything the people in congress are doing. If you don't either, vote for me because I'll do something different. He doesn't even hint at what he's unhappy about, or would do differently. Not in that one paragraph I quoted. If I quote one paragraph from Barry Hussein's web page that states a 'need for change', without stating what needs changing or how he intends to change it, will you make the same remarks that you just made about Stevo? If you want to complain about what you didn't read on Stevo's web page, why don't you try reading it first? http://www.stevoforcongress.com/issues/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A new kind of Illinois politician
I wasn't complaining about what I didn't read. You said you agree with the particular paragraph you quoted. I misunderstood you, if what you actually meant is that you agreed with his whole platform. Barack Obama is using the same way of talking, trying to tell people it's time for a change in vague words to get them to (often erroneously) associate the things they personally want changed with his platform. It reminds me of the politician that visits in the first book of the Foundation series. Tyler On Aug 20, 2008, at 11:24 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Tyler Backman wrote: There's nothing to disagree with. It can be summed up like this: I don't like everything the people in congress are doing. If you don't either, vote for me because I'll do something different. He doesn't even hint at what he's unhappy about, or would do differently. Not in that one paragraph I quoted. If I quote one paragraph from Barry Hussein's web page that states a 'need for change', without stating what needs changing or how he intends to change it, will you make the same remarks that you just made about Stevo? If you want to complain about what you didn't read on Stevo's web page, why don't you try reading it first? http://www.stevoforcongress.com/issues/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Difference on Taxes
Tyler Backman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Does that clarify what I mean by sustainable, what exactly is being sustained, and why? Not really, because if the primitive indigenous lifestyle is sustainable, then why do so few of these societies still exist? It seems that they are by their absence NOT sustainable Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A new kind of Illinois politician
Maybe I should just stay out of US politics as I can't say I really understand, but bear with me here. Are not both houses currently controlled by the democrats? If so, what is Obama going to change? If his party is essentially in control now, are they not going to just carry on as they are now? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 12:24 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] A new kind of Illinois politician Tyler Backman wrote: There's nothing to disagree with. It can be summed up like this: I don't like everything the people in congress are doing. If you don't either, vote for me because I'll do something different. He doesn't even hint at what he's unhappy about, or would do differently. Not in that one paragraph I quoted. If I quote one paragraph from Barry Hussein's web page that states a 'need for change', without stating what needs changing or how he intends to change it, will you make the same remarks that you just made about Stevo? If you want to complain about what you didn't read on Stevo's web page, why don't you try reading it first? http://www.stevoforcongress.com/issues/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: The Vista disaster continues for Microsoft
I agree totally. That is what I meant by quality. I was not suggesting HP was better than anything else. I just meant that it may run well on new and fast machines. I don't know if I would want it on a $500 laptop but it works fine on a $1500 laptop. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tyler Backman Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:11 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The Vista disaster continues for Microsoft I'd say it's the performance of the hardware that makes your sons new HP laptop run vista well (rather than the quality). Vista is so bloated and slow that it requires all of the resources of the fastest new computers to just perform basic tasks like web browsing. A truly excellent operating system (OpenBSD is a good example) uses a miniscule portion of system resources to just run, leaving the rest of your system free to do the tasks you assign it to. I can run the latest version of OpenBSD on my Sun SparcStation LX made in the late 80s. It has only 24mb of ram, a 200mb hard drive, and a (50? mhz) slow cpu. It runs fast enough to serve a modern web page to multiple users, and route a 1 megabit internet connection to multiple computers at the same time. Imagine how much resources it must leave free for further use on a new computer that literally has over 200 times the system resources available! Sincerely, Tyler William H Backman 1987 190D Turbo Biodiesel On Aug 20, 2008, at 9:57 AM, R A Bennell wrote: I think that one of the issues may be the quality of the hardware. My elder son is using a new HP laptop with Vista and he likes it fine. We were a bit concerned when we got it and wondered if we ought to just reload XP but he decided to try it and says it has worked fine for the past 3 mnths or so. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A new kind of Illinois politician
R A Bennell wrote: Are not both houses currently controlled by the democrats? If so, what is Obama going to change? If his party is essentially in control now, are they not going to just carry on as they are now? The President can veto anything Congress wants to be law, unless their is a (IIRC) 2/3rd majority. Since the current President is Republican and the Democrats don't have enough of a majority to override his veto... having a Dem as president will stop those vetos. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A new kind of Illinois politician
Tyler Backman wrote: I wasn't complaining about what I didn't read. You said you agree with the particular paragraph you quoted. I misunderstood you, if what you actually meant is that you agreed with his whole platform. Naw, you understood me correctly the first time. Maybe I misunderstood you. Stevo doesn't like picking the least acceptable republicrat candidate and then voting for the other one, and I don't either. I'm just glad somebody's saying it out loud, so I rebroadcast his sentiments here. My November ballot will include two Repugnant Party candidate that I'm willing to vote for, my incumbent state representative Rick Jones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlxBQfofACM), and my neighbor who is the incumbent township treasurer. Demonrats will get no votes from me this fall, and some Repugnants I voted for in the past won't be getting my vote for re-election. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Difference on Taxes
Allan Streib wrote: Not really, because if the primitive indigenous lifestyle is sustainable, then why do so few of these societies still exist? Lack of ability to defend the community from other groups of humans? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A new kind of Illinois politician
John Robbins wrote: The President can veto anything Congress wants to be law, unless their is a (IIRC) 2/3rd majority. Since the current President is Republican and the Democrats don't have enough of a majority to override his veto... having a Dem as president will stop those vetos. In theory, yes, but has Herr Bushler vetoed anything of importance since January 2007? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A new kind of Illinois politician
Obama will have a veto too. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Robbins Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 1:04 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] A new kind of Illinois politician R A Bennell wrote: Are not both houses currently controlled by the democrats? If so, what is Obama going to change? If his party is essentially in control now, are they not going to just carry on as they are now? The President can veto anything Congress wants to be law, unless their is a (IIRC) 2/3rd majority. Since the current President is Republican and the Democrats don't have enough of a majority to override his veto... having a Dem as president will stop those vetos. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Difference on Taxes
Essentially the entire world was covered by indigenous societies, already living at the maximum sustainable carrying capacity of the land (for how they lived) until the Neolithic Revolution in the middle east from which eventually came cultures that spread around the world forcefully wiping out other cultures by various means (violence, disease, etc.) both intentionally and non-intentionally. Interestingly, very few indigenous cultures have ceased to exist because it's members decided to adopt another way of life on their own free will. There is a distinction between sustainable and immortal. A sustainable culture is not immortal can still be wiped out by external forces such as natural disasters, and other people. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of indigenous cultures that have wiped themselves out because of non-sustainable ways of life, but there are also thousands who did not (the ones that existed for tens of thousands of years, and have been only recently wiped out). Nevertheless, many indigenous cultures still exist around the world, although they are still disappearing rapidly. The United Nations estimates that there are about 300 million indigenous people living in the world today (about the population of the United States) in their traditional manner. I realize that the term indigenous is somewhat vague, and this number probably changes rapidly depending on your definition of the word. Tyler On Aug 20, 2008, at 11:45 AM, Allan Streib wrote: Tyler Backman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Does that clarify what I mean by sustainable, what exactly is being sustained, and why? Not really, because if the primitive indigenous lifestyle is sustainable, then why do so few of these societies still exist? It seems that they are by their absence NOT sustainable Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop
Get a set of ramps and just drive up onto them. That should give enough clearance to get to the tranny. Alternatively, if you don't have a floor jack, get one. Much quicker and easier than using the crank thing in the trunk- and please use some sort of stand or blocking to protect you before you crawl under. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:57 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop OK! There is nothing more tedious than jacking up the wagon etc. to turn the tiny crank, so I guess I am motivated to learn something new. Where do I go for the cookbook? On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 1:49 PM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:43 AM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I may have been adjusting the transmission modulator w/o knowing what it is called. Is it the tiny little crank doodad under the car that you pull out and turn CW or CCW? I've done that - first 8 circles CW to cure flaring, then 6X CCW to cure clunking. At the risk of going Marshall on you, please CHECK THE VACUUM SYSTEM before you play with the transmission modulator! On every car I've seen the modulator pressure was right on spec or nearly so without any tweaks, and turning it one way or the other just made things worse. Chasing down vacuum leaks is tedious and less satisfying than turning the little crank doodad, but it is FAR MORE LIKELY to lead you to a properly shifting transmission! Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Milestone reached
OoooOOoooOO Mine is about to do the same. Maybe I can catch the trip meter at the right tim as well Russ Williams wrote: Today at 3:33 PM CDT My 83 240D hit the Magic number. See Attached pix. Russ W. '83 240D x2 -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: pic0819081jpg-2.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 68649 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080819/a7b81839/attachment.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A new kind of Illinois politician
Bingo! Bullseye! Oh, one thing Barat O. would change. His personal income At 02:01 PM 8/20/2008, you wrote: Maybe I should just stay out of US politics as I can't say I really understand, but bear with me here. Are not both houses currently controlled by the democrats? If so, what is Obama going to change? If his party is essentially in control now, are they not going to just carry on as they are now? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 12:24 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] A new kind of Illinois politician Tyler Backman wrote: There's nothing to disagree with. It can be summed up like this: I don't like everything the people in congress are doing. If you don't either, vote for me because I'll do something different. He doesn't even hint at what he's unhappy about, or would do differently. Not in that one paragraph I quoted. If I quote one paragraph from Barry Hussein's web page that states a 'need for change', without stating what needs changing or how he intends to change it, will you make the same remarks that you just made about Stevo? If you want to complain about what you didn't read on Stevo's web page, why don't you try reading it first? http://www.stevoforcongress.com/issues/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A new kind of Illinois politician
Sounds a lot like this guy, who is trying to unseat tom turkey in the US senate. http://www.christopherreed2008.com/ Tom turkey is an embarrassment to the state as well as to the nation. Like John F. Kerry (JFK) he claimed to be a war hero. In fact, the closest Tom turkey ever got to combat was ferrying aircraft across the pacific. Seems he didn't have the right stuff to be a combat pilot. Chris Reed is a real man. At 01:04 PM 8/20/2008, you wrote: Here's a quote from a Illinois Congressional candidate's campaign site. I must say I agree with every word: Why am I running As voters, we have become dissatisfied with the options we are left with on the day of the election. Too often, we have spent our time voting for the lesser of two evils, rather than anyone whose ideas truly inspire us. Sometimes, we just vote against someone who's just really terrible, holding our noses and saying Anyone would be better than that other guy! It's a disappointing state of affairs that the two parties have left us in. Can't a country like ours with its human capital and resources, come up with something better than the hucksters we have in Congress? I don't know. Once they get elected, it seems to only take a few months before they are shaped into a Washington politician. It's time for us to either stop caring, or to get more involved. I'm not ready to stop caring. Are you? Please take some time to learn more about my ideas for a better government. http://www.stevoforcongress.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Milestone reached
I don't have to worry about big numbers like that. Mine resets at 99,999 to all zeros. My 76 shows a bit over 9,000 miles. Showed 990 when I got it in July 2005. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rolf Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 2:14 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Milestone reached OoooOOoooOO Mine is about to do the same. Maybe I can catch the trip meter at the right tim as well Russ Williams wrote: Today at 3:33 PM CDT My 83 240D hit the Magic number. See Attached pix. Russ W. '83 240D x2 -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: pic0819081jpg-2.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 68649 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080819/a7b81839/attachment.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A new kind of Illinois politician
Uh, and that has been? 1 poorly constructed farm bill As Barrister Bennell has asked? What is gonna change? Big spenders in both houses and the white house. what is different about that? uh, I uh, well, uh, du. Uh, I aah, said Ah, buLEEEVin HOPE, and, uh Ah beeLEEVin CHANGE, uhh will you guys get that teleprompter running? dh Yeah, he gives a great speech. At 02:03 PM 8/20/2008, you wrote: R A Bennell wrote: Are not both houses currently controlled by the democrats? If so, what is Obama going to change? If his party is essentially in control now, are they not going to just carry on as they are now? The President can veto anything Congress wants to be law, unless their is a (IIRC) 2/3rd majority. Since the current President is Republican and the Democrats don't have enough of a majority to override his veto... having a Dem as president will stop those vetos. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Ignition key will not turn
Ken, if it's acting up occasionally without any undue pressure from the position of the front wheels, ya better go ahead and replace the cylinder while ya can do it two minutes for the mere cost of the cylinder, 'stead of having to get a tow, be without the car a while and getting it cut out for $700 to $800. If it's acting up, it's only a matter of time before it REALLY WILL BITE YOU AND HAVE ITS WAY WITH YOU. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ignition key will not turn
He may also want to just pull it and clean it. Particularly if hes using a brass key (get a steal key). I missed what kind of car it was, W123 or prior? -Rolf Wilton Strickland wrote: Ken, if it's acting up occasionally without any undue pressure from the position of the front wheels, ya better go ahead and replace the cylinder while ya can do it two minutes for the mere cost of the cylinder, 'stead of having to get a tow, be without the car a while and getting it cut out for $700 to $800. If it's acting up, it's only a matter of time before it REALLY WILL BITE YOU AND HAVE ITS WAY WITH YOU. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A new kind of Illinois politician
Back in the early 70s, a young Donald Kaul was a snot-faced commentator for the des Moines Register. in 69-70 I had to take the paper for a civics class. I was reading Kauls column one day and he was going on about how the incumbents always go crooked. Kaul then suggested that we always vote for the new face, regardless of party. That is why I have always voted against tom turkey, the DUUMBOcrat senator, and against republicrat govs for life Robert Ray and Bumstead. I also voted against Vilcheck and will vote against culver in 2 more years Now Kaul makes Karl Marx look like a right wing conservative. Back then he was often funny and irreverent. At 02:07 PM 8/20/2008, you wrote: Tyler Backman wrote: I wasn't complaining about what I didn't read. You said you agree with the particular paragraph you quoted. I misunderstood you, if what you actually meant is that you agreed with his whole platform. Naw, you understood me correctly the first time. Maybe I misunderstood you. Stevo doesn't like picking the least acceptable republicrat candidate and then voting for the other one, and I don't either. I'm just glad somebody's saying it out loud, so I rebroadcast his sentiments here. My November ballot will include two Repugnant Party candidate that I'm willing to vote for, my incumbent state representative Rick Jones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlxBQfofACM), and my neighbor who is the incumbent township treasurer. Demonrats will get no votes from me this fall, and some Repugnants I voted for in the past won't be getting my vote for re-election. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A new kind of Illinois politician
I BELIEVE I can TAX y'all to prosperity (but I don't dare mention that part do I?)! Randy who has become much more of a Solicitor than a Barrister these days -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 2:12 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] A new kind of Illinois politician Uh, and that has been? 1 poorly constructed farm bill As Barrister Bennell has asked? What is gonna change? Big spenders in both houses and the white house. what is different about that? uh, I uh, well, uh, du. Uh, I aah, said Ah, buLEEEVin HOPE, and, uh Ah beeLEEVin CHANGE, uhh will you guys get that teleprompter running? dh Yeah, he gives a great speech. At 02:03 PM 8/20/2008, you wrote: R A Bennell wrote: Are not both houses currently controlled by the democrats? If so, what is Obama going to change? If his party is essentially in control now, are they not going to just carry on as they are now? The President can veto anything Congress wants to be law, unless their is a (IIRC) 2/3rd majority. Since the current President is Republican and the Democrats don't have enough of a majority to override his veto... having a Dem as president will stop those vetos. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Milestone reached
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 1:13 PM, Rolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OoooOOoooOO Mine is about to do the same. Maybe I can catch the trip meter at the right tim as well Heh, heh. I reset the tripmeter on my '87 when the odo hit 222,000 so that I could catch it at all twos. Then I forgot to take the picture :( Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ignition key will not turn
Wilton Strickland wrote: Ken, if it's acting up occasionally without any undue pressure from the position of the front wheels, ya better go ahead and replace the cylinder while ya can do it... Sounds like Ken's son already ignored it for a few weeks until it got to the stage where you get down on your knees and thank the Lord that you got it unlocked one more time. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Difference on Taxes
Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lack of ability to defend the community from other groups of humans? Lions and tigers and bears, too... Is not the defense of your tribe/village/country against enemies an element of sustainability? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Milestone reached
Did it hit 333,333 miles at 3:33 PM? If so, that's pretty cool! We noticed as the odo on The '07 Ram hit 6565 and on our camping trip last weekend. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300sD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Difference on Taxes
andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The planet, obviously. Of course, in the ideal Fairtax world we can all strive to earn and KEEP enough $$s to afford our own personal planet. News flash, the planet is not going anywhere no matter what we do. And if it is, we can't stop it. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ignition key will not turn
Yep, I think so, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 5:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ignition key will not turn Wilton Strickland wrote: Ken, if it's acting up occasionally without any undue pressure from the position of the front wheels, ya better go ahead and replace the cylinder while ya can do it... Sounds like Ken's son already ignored it for a few weeks until it got to the stage where you get down on your knees and thank the Lord that you got it unlocked one more time. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Difference on Taxes
I suppose it depends on your definition of sustainability, but I don't think it makes any sense to lump that in. By my definition, a sustainable way of living doesn't necessarily include an ability to mitigate risks from major unforeseen events, but rather an ability to continue to exist in the absence of them. For example, say (hypothetically) that you are member of a small tribe in the Amazon that has been living off the land in the same way for thousands of generations, and suddenly the Portuguese arrive with guns, and half your tribe dies from diseases for which you have no immunity, and the other half is enslaved to plant sugar cane to send back to Portugal. Does this mean that you never had a sustainable way of life? If you say no, perhaps either you or I should use a different word than Sustainable to go with our definition, because we're clearly not talking about the same thing. Tyler On Aug 20, 2008, at 2:43 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Is not the defense of your tribe/village/country against enemies an element of sustainability? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Difference on Taxes
I don't think he meant that the planet could stop existing, but rather that we could stop existing if we don't live sustainably. Tyler On Aug 20, 2008, at 2:50 PM, Allan Streib wrote: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The planet, obviously. Of course, in the ideal Fairtax world we can all strive to earn and KEEP enough $$s to afford our own personal planet. News flash, the planet is not going anywhere no matter what we do. And if it is, we can't stop it. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] ADMIN, recent political attacks
OK folks, the recent OT political stuff is starting to border on getting to personal attacks. Lets tone it back before I have to cut off all politics all together again. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 560SL, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Changing front brake pads on 1984 300SD
Thats how I do it. Tom Hargrave wrote: The problem with pulling the caliper is that as you compress one side, the other side over extends. The only solution is to use 2 C-clamps, one on each side of the caliper. One holds the opposing side in place while you compress the other. A better solution is to leave the caliper on the car, leave the old shoes in place then use a large screwdriver as a lever to push the pad pistons back. Do one side of the caliper, pull the pad replace it then do the other. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 8:13 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Changing front brake pads on 1984 300SD I've been using a C clamp to compress the piston but I can't seem to get enough room. That's generally the right approach, though you may have to liberate the caliper from the car (two bolts, don't unhook the hydraulic hose) in order to get the clamp in there far enough to squeeze the puck back in squarely. Don't stress the hose. They get dirty/rusty enough that it may be necessary to 'rebuild' it. That's messy, but if the rubber is actually in good shape you can get by with removing the puck(s) and cleaning them up with 600-grit wet/dry sandpaper wetted with brake fluid or water. Rub gently, the pucks clean up nice and smooth as they're hard-chromed. Clean the piston bores similarly. Then they go back together. To do this the caliper comes off the car. I use a grease gun filled with water to pump the pucks out of the caliper, that's much safer than using air pressure. Thoroughly washed inside and out, I then use air to blow-dry everything. At that point one can even paint the calipers if one so desired. If the rubber sealing boot and/or square-profiled O-ring seal have deteriorated then it's time to do the full rebuild, which is the same as described above but with new rubber. I don't do this if the pucks can be pushed back in reasonably in the first place. They should actually slide fairly easily. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1623 - Release Date: 8/20/2008 8:12 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1623 - Release Date: 8/20/2008 8:12 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1624 - Release Date: 8/20/2008 7:11 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 560SL, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ignition key will not turn
No, dont start working on it this weekend, work on it NOW, or do not drive the car again until you either pull the tumbler out and use the screw driver approach. Ken Rushing wrote: After much prayer and sweat, the key had turned! Thanks for all the input! I will start working on it this weekend. Ken ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1624 - Release Date: 8/20/2008 7:11 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 560SL, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a heck of a deal on a brand new #22 head
Because when you buy a new one you still have to send it to the machine shop to have it deburred and have valves etc installed. Dont want any of that loose metal floating around. George Larribeau wrote: Curious ... If it is new then why is it listed as: IT HAS BEEN DEBURRED AND BOILED AT THE MACHINE SHOP George Larribeau Dallas Texas - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 10:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] a heck of a deal on a brand new #22 head Well you would normally pay about 2500 for a bare head, and still need valves, prechambers etc Christopher McCann wrote: I realize that is the OM603 Holy Grail, but is that really a good price or are you being facetious? Chris Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCEDES-CYLINDER-HEAD-6030109620-300TDT-300SDL-350SD_W0QQitemZ160273916197QQihZ006QQcategoryZ33617QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 560SL, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1624 - Release Date: 8/20/2008 7:11 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 560SL, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: A Tax Analysis by a CPA - Was; Difference on Taxes
Hi, Received this from a good friend of mine today who received it from his CPA. He has put some real numbers into a comparison. I will let you review and decide. As he points out he uses the tax rates of the last year of the Clinton administration as a projection for 2009 (Bush cuts no longer in place. He describes the comparison very well, iMHO Take care, Chuck PS - I'm just the messenger ::) But, I do agree this results are rather staggering! August 20, 2008 The Democratic convention is next week. The Republican convention is the following week. Don't forget to wear your wading boots these next two weeks as I am sure it will get very deep. Taxes Politics There are all sorts of belief systems in place for both parties. One primary political position of the Democrats is they want to repeal the Bush tax cuts. Their position is these tax cuts have been described as only benefiting the rich. So what are we really talking about? Repeal of the tax cuts experienced in the last few years would bring the income tax system back into the tax regime during the Clinton Presidency. So that raised the question of a comparison of tax liabilities. Would the lower income people benefit by reverting back to the good old days? Would it slam all those evil rich people into paying more to the federal government? What about the large middle class? Would they be winners or losers in this deal? The Comparison So here is what I did. I created four income levels. The lowest was $30,000 of wages, the second at $75,000, level 3 at $200,000 and the highest at $500,000. I added some interest and deductions that fall within their respective income levels. High income people tend to have more interest, dividends and capital gains than lower income folks. The next part of this comparative puzzle is filing status. I ran three - Single, Head of Household and Married Filing Jointly. The third step was to prepare a tax return using the 2008 tax laws with the tax cuts still in place. Our comparison assumes the tax cuts are repealed and the old law becomes effective once again. I used the Year 2000 tax software which was the last year of the Clinton tax law to calculate the estimated 2009 tax bill. This is not a perfect result but it would be close. The Results Let's look at the results for a $500,000 taxpayer. They fall into that evil rich category and so they should be getting whacked the most. Single $500,000 2008 Tax Liability $141,099 2009 Tax Liability (est) $172,130 Change $31,031 Percentage Increase 21.99% Head of Household $500,000 2008 Tax Liability $137,095 2009 Tax Liability (est)$169,433 Change $32,338 Percentage Increase 23.59% Married - Joint $500,000 2008 Tax Liability $133,000 2009 Tax Liability (est)$167,127 Change $34,127 Percentage Increase 25.66% As you can see from the above figures, someone in the $500,000 range could plan on kicking in an extra $31,000 or more per year to the tax man. Increases range from 20-25%. One reason for this is the jump in the top marginal tax rate from 35% to at least 39.6%. How would you feel right now with $31,000 less in your pocket thanks to your friends in the US Congress? Single $200,000 2008 Tax Liability $45,788 2009 Tax Liability (est) $54,790 Change $9,002 Percentage Increase19.66% Head of Household $200,000 2008 Tax Liability $45,788 2009 Tax Liability (est) $51,327 Change $5,539 Percentage Increase 12.10% Married- Joint$200,000 2008 Tax Liability $40,425 2009 Tax Liability (est) $47,046 Change $6,621 Percentage Increase 16.38% Of course, those folks in the $200,000 range should probably kick in a lot more as they are obviously too rich for their own good but certainly not as evil as those $500k guys. BUT WAIT A MINUTE! Both the percentage increases and the true dollar increases are not that high. Why is this? One factor is the highest tax rates do not affect these guys. A head of household taxpayer pays just 1/6th of the increase that the $500k taxpayer does. Single
Re: [MBZ] Changing front brake pads on 1984 300SD
I use the old pads trick but with the calipers off and I use the claw on a hammer. No rotor scoring :). -Rolf Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Thats how I do it. Tom Hargrave wrote: The problem with pulling the caliper is that as you compress one side, the other side over extends. The only solution is to use 2 C-clamps, one on each side of the caliper. One holds the opposing side in place while you compress the other. A better solution is to leave the caliper on the car, leave the old shoes in place then use a large screwdriver as a lever to push the pad pistons back. Do one side of the caliper, pull the pad replace it then do the other. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 8:13 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Changing front brake pads on 1984 300SD I've been using a C clamp to compress the piston but I can't seem to get enough room. That's generally the right approach, though you may have to liberate the caliper from the car (two bolts, don't unhook the hydraulic hose) in order to get the clamp in there far enough to squeeze the puck back in squarely. Don't stress the hose. They get dirty/rusty enough that it may be necessary to 'rebuild' it. That's messy, but if the rubber is actually in good shape you can get by with removing the puck(s) and cleaning them up with 600-grit wet/dry sandpaper wetted with brake fluid or water. Rub gently, the pucks clean up nice and smooth as they're hard-chromed. Clean the piston bores similarly. Then they go back together. To do this the caliper comes off the car. I use a grease gun filled with water to pump the pucks out of the caliper, that's much safer than using air pressure. Thoroughly washed inside and out, I then use air to blow-dry everything. At that point one can even paint the calipers if one so desired. If the rubber sealing boot and/or square-profiled O-ring seal have deteriorated then it's time to do the full rebuild, which is the same as described above but with new rubber. I don't do this if the pucks can be pushed back in reasonably in the first place. They should actually slide fairly easily. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1623 - Release Date: 8/20/2008 8:12 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1623 - Release Date: 8/20/2008 8:12 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1624 - Release Date: 8/20/2008 7:11 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Changing front brake pads on 1984 300SD
I don't score the rotors either. I pry towards the brake pad with the tip of the screwdriver and the only part of the rotor that gets pried on is the very outer lip. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rolf Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 6:05 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Changing front brake pads on 1984 300SD I use the old pads trick but with the calipers off and I use the claw on a hammer. No rotor scoring :). -Rolf Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Thats how I do it. Tom Hargrave wrote: The problem with pulling the caliper is that as you compress one side, the other side over extends. The only solution is to use 2 C-clamps, one on each side of the caliper. One holds the opposing side in place while you compress the other. A better solution is to leave the caliper on the car, leave the old shoes in place then use a large screwdriver as a lever to push the pad pistons back. Do one side of the caliper, pull the pad replace it then do the other. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 8:13 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Changing front brake pads on 1984 300SD I've been using a C clamp to compress the piston but I can't seem to get enough room. That's generally the right approach, though you may have to liberate the caliper from the car (two bolts, don't unhook the hydraulic hose) in order to get the clamp in there far enough to squeeze the puck back in squarely. Don't stress the hose. They get dirty/rusty enough that it may be necessary to 'rebuild' it. That's messy, but if the rubber is actually in good shape you can get by with removing the puck(s) and cleaning them up with 600-grit wet/dry sandpaper wetted with brake fluid or water. Rub gently, the pucks clean up nice and smooth as they're hard-chromed. Clean the piston bores similarly. Then they go back together. To do this the caliper comes off the car. I use a grease gun filled with water to pump the pucks out of the caliper, that's much safer than using air pressure. Thoroughly washed inside and out, I then use air to blow-dry everything. At that point one can even paint the calipers if one so desired. If the rubber sealing boot and/or square-profiled O-ring seal have deteriorated then it's time to do the full rebuild, which is the same as described above but with new rubber. I don't do this if the pucks can be pushed back in reasonably in the first place. They should actually slide fairly easily. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1623 - Release Date: 8/20/2008 8:12 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1623 - Release Date: 8/20/2008 8:12 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1624 - Release Date: 8/20/2008 7:11 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1623 - Release Date: 8/20/2008 8:12 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1623 - Release Date: 8/20/2008 8:12 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A new kind of Illinois politician
Thats the scary part. They wont have bush to keep them in check, instead they will have the farthest left thing we have ever seen in there and it will really be much worse then. R A Bennell wrote: Maybe I should just stay out of US politics as I can't say I really understand, but bear with me here. Are not both houses currently controlled by the democrats? If so, what is Obama going to change? If his party is essentially in control now, are they not going to just carry on as they are now? Randy -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 560SL, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ignition key will not turn
It sounds to me like they got their one last turn of the key so they can pull the tumbler out, but instead they are hoping to make it to the weekend. Chances are, it will never turn again. Mitch Haley wrote: Wilton Strickland wrote: Ken, if it's acting up occasionally without any undue pressure from the position of the front wheels, ya better go ahead and replace the cylinder while ya can do it... Sounds like Ken's son already ignored it for a few weeks until it got to the stage where you get down on your knees and thank the Lord that you got it unlocked one more time. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1624 - Release Date: 8/20/2008 7:11 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 560SL, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Talk about time wasting
Stras fogel'd..This is a waste of my and everyone else's time... Which didn't keep you from reposting all 211 lines of it. RLE ** It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ignition key will not turn
Yep Wilton - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ignition key will not turn It sounds to me like they got their one last turn of the key so they can pull the tumbler out, but instead they are hoping to make it to the weekend. Chances are, it will never turn again. Mitch Haley wrote: Wilton Strickland wrote: Ken, if it's acting up occasionally without any undue pressure from the position of the front wheels, ya better go ahead and replace the cylinder while ya can do it... Sounds like Ken's son already ignored it for a few weeks until it got to the stage where you get down on your knees and thank the Lord that you got it unlocked one more time. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1624 - Release Date: 8/20/2008 7:11 PM -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 560SL, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] brake maintenance
During the 13 years I owned my 914-6, I never had one single incident of caliper trouble which I attribute to REPLACING the brake fluid every other year. Or sooner. If one is too damned lazy or cheap to take care of the system, then suffer the consequences. And this was a track car the entire time I owned it. RLE ** It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, recent political attacks
This has to be the first time there has been a political urinating-contest and I stayed completely out of it. I shall try to continue that behavior. Life's too short to be crabby and confrontational. On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 5:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: OK folks, the recent OT political stuff is starting to border on getting to personal attacks. Lets tone it back before I have to cut off all politics all together again. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 560SL, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Difference on Taxes
Tyler Backman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't think he meant that the planet could stop existing, but rather that we could stop existing if we don't live sustainably. Perhaps. However I think that sustainability as it is used in recent times is a code word for something else. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Changing front brake pads on 1984 300SD
So I figured it out. I had to push back the pistons (there is one for each brake pad, which I didn't know) individually and I used the old worn out pad and my c clamp. Got enough room to put the new ones in, and reassembled everything. Tomorrow, the left front wheel! Thanks everyone for your help. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Difference on Taxes
Tyler Backman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For example, say (hypothetically) that you are member of a small tribe in the Amazon that has been living off the land in the same way for thousands of generations, ... living on whatever food you can find, or eeking out a living raising crops on a small plot of land, hoping there's not a drought this year, living long enough to hopefully reproduce at least a few offspring since infant mortality is in the ballpark of 50%, reaching age 45 or so if you're lucky... Sustainable in the sense that your species continues to exist, i guess pretty much a wild animal existence... and suddenly the Portuguese arrive with guns, and half your tribe dies from diseases for which you have no immunity, and the other half is enslaved to plant sugar cane to send back to Portugal. Does this mean that you never had a sustainable way of life? If you say no, perhaps either you or I should use a different word than Sustainable to go with our definition, because we're clearly not talking about the same thing. I say no because you are unable to sustain your existence (or freedom) in the face of a foreseeable threat. Compare this to the society that develops agriculture, then industry and is thereby able to utilize the resources of the environment to support the development of science, medicine, and other technologies; eliminate most death by injury and disease, deliver clean water and fresh food in abundance, defend themselves against enemies, perhaps abusing or misusing certain resources along the way but able to change and adapt as mistakes are recognized. Not just sustaining their existence, but thriving and continually improving their standard of living. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Things that go clunk when you stop
andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I may have been adjusting the transmission modulator w/o knowing what it is called. Is it the tiny little crank doodad under the car that you pull out and turn CW or CCW? I've done that - first 8 circles CW to cure flaring, then 6X CCW to cure clunking. This required me to jack up the car and slide underneath while holding my breath, so it's not one of my favorite activities, which is why I am in the market for a garage lift (even it's a mere 9.5 ft. from floor to ceiling). PLEASE get some ramps or jack stands to support the car, never get under a car supported only by a jack. Jacks are for lifting, not holdingmany folks have been killed when a jack let go while they were under their car. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 88 Hammer wagon on fleabay.
No I think the series 2 and 3 got the standard wood work...thankfully http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHcqfFWssz8feature=related Hendrik with plain wood work Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 10:58 PM, Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oooh looks like he has come down 10K in price, only another 20K to go and he may get a buyer. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260275107873 Some background http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=42870 http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=42871 Hendrik with a S124 but only a 6 banger under the bonnet Did all Hammers (or all '80s AMG cars) come with that weird bird's-eye maple interior trim? It clashes terribly with the black leather to my eye, but to each his own, I suppose. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Oil leak after valve adjustment
I've been experiencing a rather dramatic oil leak since a recent valve adjustment on my '84 300D where I installed a new valve cover gasket. A suggestion by a local MB independent mechanic that my oil leakage subsequent to my valve adjustment possibly being due to a plastic cable tie behind the valve cover getting caught under the valve cover gasket turned out not to be the case once I got enough light back there, etc. in order to see what may have been the cause. The U-shaped channel of the valve cover gasket wasn't seated correctly behind the valve cover toward the firewall and, after spending most of the afternoon with my garage getting rather colorful, losing one of the valve cover nuts and having to thread an SAE nut to the correct metric size in order to get things back together correctly, I went to the local U-wash-it car wash and de-Gunked the engine compartment and underneath to see if I've gotten rid of the oil leakage. If it looks OK 1st thing in the morning, I'll call it a success. Hopefully, this corrected the problem, but what a bear it is to get that valve cover gasket seated correctly behind the valve cover as there's very little room to work there. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OR--leopard borked me
Upgraded sawtooth G4 with 1gig ram, dual 120gig drives, 1.4ghz cpu, 10.4.11 updating to leopard. Went fine until it rebooted and then the computer just shuts down. Needed 12 gig for install. Install disk had 25 gig available.Using logged startup, so I see sort of what happens, but before I can read the error, it just shuts down. Maybe 25 lines or so. Any ideas? Lack of disk space? Borked the logic board? HELP clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil leak after valve adjustment
There is a trick, of course. Clean gasket and valve cover perfectly, and force gasket onto cover all round. Clean head sealing surface with brake parts cleaner or something similar -- it must be completely dry. Position valve cover on heat, lift an inch or so, and thump it down firmly until the thup changes to a thomp -- you will hear the change. This seats the gasket on the valve cover. Position properly, and then install bolts or nuts and tighten ONLY enough to keep them in place. On 616 and 617 engines, there are little stands that prevent cutting the gasket. If you overtighten the bolts or nuts, you will warp the cover and it will not seal until you machine down the little stands to get correct pressure all round. This procedure works for ALL MB valve covers with u-shaped gaskets. You won't crimp one ever again this way, as you won't tighten the hold downs until you hear the gasket all the way on. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Milestone reached
Nice - I'm only about 3000 behind you -- On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 10:23 PM, Russ Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today at 3:33 PM CDT My 83 240D hit the Magic number. See Attached pix. Russ W. '83 240D x2 -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: pic0819081jpg-2.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 68649 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080819/a7b81839/attachment.jpg ___ -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OR--leopard borked me
Most likely the installation is flaky, that's the usual cause. Are you installing over your old system or on a clean partition? I've had trouble with upgrades, and since I have the room, I usually install on a freshly formated partition these days, especially when going from one version to another. You will get the option to copy over all your settings, including users, the name of the computer, etc. This is much better than overwriting an existing system. Also, 25G is too small for installation, even though only 12 G is required. Not enough space will result in very long optimizations, and sometimes a bad install. Try booting off the installation disks and aborting the installation. Open up Disk Utilities and check the hard drive partition you are attempting to install on. Repair disk permissions and repair the disk -- sometimes the permissions get screwed up and it won't start, but will once you fix them. If you don't get the option to repair permissions, you will have to re-install as you don't have a functional OS in place. If it were me (and I didn't have data on that partition I needed), I'd erase it and try again. Better to use a new bigger partition, but if you don't have it you don't have it. Might be a good idea to reset PRAM too, just in case, as sometimes an upgrade causes it to get scrambled and cause the boot to hang. You should also boot in verbose mode to see what's holding you up. Might be a fix the boot drive thing that can take a while on a 25G drive. Peter On Aug 20, 2008, at 8:27 PM, clay monroe wrote: Upgraded sawtooth G4 with 1gig ram, dual 120gig drives, 1.4ghz cpu, 10.4.11 updating to leopard. Went fine until it rebooted and then the computer just shuts down. Needed 12 gig for install. Install disk had 25 gig available.Using logged startup, so I see sort of what happens, but before I can read the error, it just shuts down. Maybe 25 lines or so. Any ideas? Lack of disk space? Borked the logic board? HELP clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wanted: 107 Driver's Side Kick Panel (pics attached)
At 4:27 AM -0500 8/15/08, M. Mitchell Marmel wrote: At 4:54 PM -0700 8/14/08, Rocketman wrote: Actually, it's a molded bit with vents and such... -MMM- -- That is completely different than mine All I have is a slad with the hood latch cutout Passengers side is the same with the fuse box cutout I'll hafta take a happy snap and post it, then. And here you go... The piece in question. As I say, I'm redoing the interior in black, so any old color will do... -MMM- -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 100_2529.JPG Type: application/octet-stream Size: 467244 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080820/23fdc23e/attachment.obj -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 100_2530.JPG Type: application/octet-stream Size: 268392 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080820/23fdc23e/attachment-0001.obj -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 100_2531.JPG Type: application/octet-stream Size: 433928 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080820/23fdc23e/attachment-0002.obj ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, recent political attacks
Amen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 4:55 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, recent political attacks This has to be the first time there has been a political urinating-contest and I stayed completely out of it. I shall try to continue that behavior. Life's too short to be crabby and confrontational. On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 5:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: OK folks, the recent OT political stuff is starting to border on getting to personal attacks. Lets tone it back before I have to cut off all politics all together again. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 560SL, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Ignition Key will not turn
I mentioned in yesterday's forum I will be working on it this weekend. I simply stated that I got it to turn. Believe me, I'm not taking my chances by turning the key off. Ken ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ignition Key will not turn
You can turn the key off -- just don't remove it. On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Ken Rushing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I mentioned in yesterday's forum I will be working on it this weekend. I simply stated that I got it to turn. Believe me, I'm not taking my chances by turning the key off. Ken ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ignition Key will not turn
Why don't you just shove a bent paper clip into the little hole and pull the ignition cylinder out NOW? Then you've beat house at Blackjack. Turn, push, remove, smile. Trust me -- there are few things worse (a vasectomy NOT among them) than removing the ignition cylinder once the pins lock up. I haven't experienced it myself but have read tales of woe from those who have. You are up to bat with a 3/2 count. On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Ken Rushing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I mentioned in yesterday's forum I will be working on it this weekend. I simply stated that I got it to turn. Believe me, I'm not taking my chances by turning the key off. Ken ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ignition Key will not turn
If he turns it off, it may never turn again - key in it or not - his problem's not getting the key in it, it's turning it! Please pardon us if we seem edgy, Ken, but we're just hoping you can avoid the cutting/chisel, big money route in favor of the two-minute, extremely simple one. Wilton - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ignition Key will not turn You can turn the key off -- just don't remove it. On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Ken Rushing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I mentioned in yesterday's forum I will be working on it this weekend. I simply stated that I got it to turn. Believe me, I'm not taking my chances by turning the key off. Ken ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ignition Key will not turn
You are correct -- I retract. On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: If he turns it off, it may never turn again - key in it or not - his problem's not getting the key in it, it's turning it! Please pardon us if we seem edgy, Ken, but we're just hoping you can avoid the cutting/chisel, big money route in favor of the two-minute, extremely simple one. Wilton - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ignition Key will not turn You can turn the key off -- just don't remove it. On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Ken Rushing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I mentioned in yesterday's forum I will be working on it this weekend. I simply stated that I got it to turn. Believe me, I'm not taking my chances by turning the key off. Ken ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Tires for 300D 2.5
One of my tires is loosing air, and another has separating tread on the inside edge - so it's time for new tires. Anyone have experience with the General Altimax HP tires? They're rated at the top of their category on Tire Rack, and are only $58 each. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=GeneraltireModel=Altimax+HPpartnum=965HR5AMAXHPvehicleSearch=truefromCompare1=yesplace=3speed_rating=Hspeed_rating=Vspeed_rating=Wspeed_rating=Yspeed_rating=Zspeed_rating=(Y)speed_rating=Hspeed_rating=Vspeed_rating=Wspeed_rating=Yspeed_rating=Zspeed_rating=(Y)#Survey -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ignition Key will not turn
I don't know -- looking from the outside, it is so simple -- just yank the cylinder now while you can! Then call Rusty and get a new one. In have a small piece of paper taped to my computer display (don't forget what I do for a living) -- YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID. I am not saying anyone involved is stupid -- unless the key works that last time and then the individual spends $700 doing what a paperclip could have fixed. Don On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: If he turns it off, it may never turn again - key in it or not - his problem's not getting the key in it, it's turning it! Please pardon us if we seem edgy, Ken, but we're just hoping you can avoid the cutting/chisel, big money route in favor of the two-minute, extremely simple one. Wilton - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ignition Key will not turn You can turn the key off -- just don't remove it. On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:06 PM, Ken Rushing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I mentioned in yesterday's forum I will be working on it this weekend. I simply stated that I got it to turn. Believe me, I'm not taking my chances by turning the key off. Ken ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tires for 300D 2.5
I will never buy anything but Goodyear Regatta 2s, or whatever replaces them down the road. I have them on all four of my vehicles. Snow, rain, dry -- they just work. (As I drive -- I don't road race and I don't think you do.) On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:54 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of my tires is loosing air, and another has separating tread on the inside edge - so it's time for new tires. Anyone have experience with the General Altimax HP tires? They're rated at the top of their category on Tire Rack, and are only $58 each. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=GeneraltireModel=Altimax+HPpartnum=965HR5AMAXHPvehicleSearch=truefromCompare1=yesplace=3speed_rating=Hspeed_rating=Vspeed_rating=Wspeed_rating=Yspeed_rating=Zspeed_rating=(Y)speed_rating=Hspeed_rating=Vspeed_rating=Wspeed_rating=Yspeed_rating=Zspeed_rating=(Y)#Surveyhttp://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=GeneraltireModel=Altimax+HPpartnum=965HR5AMAXHPvehicleSearch=truefromCompare1=yesplace=3speed_rating=Hspeed_rating=Vspeed_rating=Wspeed_rating=Yspeed_rating=Zspeed_rating=%28Y%29speed_rating=Hspeed_rating=Vspeed_rating=Wspeed_rating=Yspeed_rating=Zspeed_rating=%28Y%29#Survey -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil leak after valve adjustment
I've done the same thing in the past. New valve cover gaskets are so flexible when compared to an old one that it's easy to do. The last few times I pulled a valve cover on a MB diesel, I glued the new gasket to the valve cover with a little black RTV silicone. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Brown Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 8:15 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Oil leak after valve adjustment I've been experiencing a rather dramatic oil leak since a recent valve adjustment on my '84 300D where I installed a new valve cover gasket. A suggestion by a local MB independent mechanic that my oil leakage subsequent to my valve adjustment possibly being due to a plastic cable tie behind the valve cover getting caught under the valve cover gasket turned out not to be the case once I got enough light back there, etc. in order to see what may have been the cause. The U-shaped channel of the valve cover gasket wasn't seated correctly behind the valve cover toward the firewall and, after spending most of the afternoon with my garage getting rather colorful, losing one of the valve cover nuts and having to thread an SAE nut to the correct metric size in order to get things back together correctly, I went to the local U-wash-it car wash and de-Gunked the engine compartment and underneath to see if I've gotten rid of the oil leakage. If it looks OK 1st thing in the morning, I'll call it a success. Hopefully, this corrected the problem, but what a bear it is to get that valve cover gasket seated correctly behind the valve cover as there's very little room to work there. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1623 - Release Date: 8/20/2008 8:12 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1623 - Release Date: 8/20/2008 8:12 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, recent political attacks
i think i missed this one. or maybe i'm just senile On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 7:54 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This has to be the first time there has been a political urinating-contest and I stayed completely out of it. I shall try to continue that behavior. Life's too short to be crabby and confrontational. On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 5:42 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK folks, the recent OT political stuff is starting to border on getting to personal attacks. Lets tone it back before I have to cut off all politics all together again. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 86 560SL, 86 300E, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250, 66 220SEb http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ http://don.homelinux.net/%7Edon/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tires for 300D 2.5
You sure? P250/70-R15 on our Buick. P195/70-R14 on my 240D. P195/70-R14 on Megan's Cavalier. P185/70-R13 on the Quantum. Can't believe they don't make any needed size. You might need to look for them, but I am sure Goodyear makes 'em. The local dealer had to order the tires for the Quantum (hard to get 13 tires). On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:13 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They don't make them in my size - 195/65 - 15. On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:59 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will never buy anything but Goodyear Regatta 2s, or whatever replaces them down the road. I have them on all four of my vehicles. Snow, rain, dry -- they just work. (As I drive -- I don't road race and I don't think you do.) -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tires for 300D 2.5
195/65-15's are getting harder to find. Last I checked with WallyWorld, they did not carry this size in any tire wanted to sub another size. But they also don't sell the correct speed rating for the E class. I just stop by ask for a reference point. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:13 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tires for 300D 2.5 They don't make them in my size - 195/65 - 15. On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:59 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will never buy anything but Goodyear Regatta 2s, or whatever replaces them down the road. I have them on all four of my vehicles. Snow, rain, dry -- they just work. (As I drive -- I don't road race and I don't think you do.) -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain '90 300D (Rattled), '92 300D (Saber), ' '81 240D (Gramps), '97 Ply Grand Voyager (Vincent van-go) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1623 - Release Date: 8/20/2008 8:12 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1623 - Release Date: 8/20/2008 8:12 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
