Re: [MBZ] any of you guys dealt with this outfit btw?
Ahh well back to Rusty or Mr Cranky. Hendrik who is limited in parts supplies Allan Streib wrote: I tried looking up brake pads for my '83 300D and they had nothing. Allan On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 21:20 +1030, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote: That may be so but do they know what they are talking about, looked up suspension parts for my 89TE and they came up with pictures of stuff for a 123. Hendrik who re-bushed the TE front and replaced the front flex disc Gary Hurst wrote: they seem to be selling genuine at wholesale to the public. http://www.mercedespartscenter.com/partlocator/index.cfm?siteid=215720 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Economics (was Sulfur good?) now Sieg heil
No no no NO, only those who believe that GWB should be elected emperor for life should be able to vote. Hendrik who is amazed at the amount of retards in the world Scott Ritchey wrote: I'd be inclined to limit voting to taxpayers who are also veterans. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mountain Man Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 23:37 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Economics (was Sulfur good?) harry wrote: Well put Larry, to bad information like this falls on deaf ears. Ever see man on the street TV? Folks can't name the two major parties, but someone registered them to vote and they do. Only land owners with a high school graduation B+ should be allowed to vote. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Economics (was Sulfur good?)
Scott Ritchey wrote: I'd be inclined to limit voting to taxpayers who are also veterans. Ever read Robert Heinlein's Starship Troopers? A citizen was somebody who had served in the military, and only citizens could vote. There were no limits on who could serve in the military, for denying them because of age, health, or gender would be denying them the rights of citizenship. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB Window Weatherstripping
You wrote I believe either of the list purveyors of parts can get dealer parts at better than dealer prices The common practice is for someone to visit Europe and the OEM suppliers. They will sell you anything you want and nearly all come with the MB parts sticker on them. Put together a container sized order (or several and ship it here, mark the prices up to cover overhead profit, advertise and you're in the MB parts business. The power of bulk pricing comes in and prices fall. Naturally, there's risk involved... LarryT 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 9:18 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB Window Weatherstripping OK Don wrote: The weatherstrip/deal on the outside of the windows on the son's '84 190Ds (two of them) are rotted, rusted, etc. MB wants $57 ea. for these strips. I believe either of the list purveyors of parts can get dealer parts at better than dealer prices. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Economics (was Sulfur good?)
You wrote Only land owners with a high school graduation B+ should be allowed to vote Oh man, couldn't agree more! The Motor Voter law was a huge mistake IMHO. If people can't be bothered to use a little energy to seek out the Voter Registration Agency and become a registered voter then they shouldn't be allowed to vote! Same with using a little energy to find and visit a local voting booth on the appropriate day and cast your vote for the person of your choice. Making it so easy that it becomes a click of a mouse demeans the process IMO. It's he most important thing we do to maintain democracy and it doesn't need to be placed on automatic. I dislike low voter turnout as much as the next guy but it's a personal decision to vote/not vote. People must be made to appreciate the things others have done to guarantee our right to vote. Just adding names to the voter rolls doesn't make people realize the importance of voting in general and *their* vote in particular. LarryT 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 11:36 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Economics (was Sulfur good?) harry wrote: Well put Larry, to bad information like this falls on deaf ears. Ever see man on the street TV? Folks can't name the two major parties, but someone registered them to vote and they do. Only land owners with a high school graduation B+ should be allowed to vote. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Economics (was Sulfur good?)
Hmm well, it would mean I wouldn't be able to vote, but I might support that requirement anyway. It makes sense. Perhaps that's a 3rd requirement: Landowner, HS grad and military service? LarryT OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 11:50 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Economics (was Sulfur good?) I'd be inclined to limit voting to taxpayers who are also veterans. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mountain Man Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 23:37 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Economics (was Sulfur good?) harry wrote: Well put Larry, to bad information like this falls on deaf ears. Ever see man on the street TV? Folks can't name the two major parties, but someone registered them to vote and they do. Only land owners with a high school graduation B+ should be allowed to vote. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Economics (was Sulfur good?) now Sieg heil
BS! Wilton - Original Message - From: Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Economics (was Sulfur good?) now Sieg heil No no no NO, only those who believe that GWB should be elected emperor for life should be able to vote. Hendrik who is amazed at the amount of retards in the world Scott Ritchey wrote: I'd be inclined to limit voting to taxpayers who are also veterans. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mountain Man Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 23:37 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Economics (was Sulfur good?) harry wrote: Well put Larry, to bad information like this falls on deaf ears. Ever see man on the street TV? Folks can't name the two major parties, but someone registered them to vote and they do. Only land owners with a high school graduation B+ should be allowed to vote. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gonna snow in ATL today.
I am hearing its going to be a high of 54 by friday! Typical Atlanta weather single digits to spring in 3 days or less! -Rolf Fmiser wrote: Curt Raymond wrote: LOL you guys crack me up. I did 17 miles on the snowmobile tonight. Conditions are terrible, I'd kill for some more snow. What Atlanta calls snow and what you call snow are probably NOT the same thing! heheh. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Mathieu's back!
It is situations like this that really make you reevaluate your life. It usually makes you a better person and stronger family once things are back to normal! I have been working on getting everything memorabilia wise converted over to digital and then stored on a local server, backed up to a usb drive and then stored on a remote server... Similarly I had a friend that had all of his family pics stored on a redundant server and backed up to a local drive, then lost everything when the basement flooded. -Rolf Mathieu J. Cama wrote: On Jan 8, 2010, at 5:50 PM, Rolf wrote: I'm happy to hear most is OK. Count yourself lucky you had flood insurance at all... A friend neighbors mortgage company had said that he could cancel his, 2 months before his house was flooded in that storm :(... -Rolf All of our neighbors had no flood insurance. Granted they still have habitable homes, many of them did wind up with 5 figure losses. Our community pulled together to help one another out after the flood. We give thanks for the fact that we did have flood insurance as it seems it will turn out OK for the most part. Still it is not near enough to rebuild or replace what was lost and temporary housing is not part of the policy. Having our health is the key. The worst of it is the loss of family pictures and the like. The rest is just stuff, including the cars. It seems Cobb county is doing a good job of taking care of its habitants who were effected. Gwinnett county... well that is another story. My heart goes out to anyone who has gone through something like this. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Mathieu's back!
Similarly I had a friend that had all of his family pics stored on a redundant server and backed up to a local drive, then lost everything when the basement flooded. I think there are data recovery specialists that can get this back. Water killed the drive, but shouldn't have affected the magnetic media. I believe they operate by removing the platter(s), cleaning them, then installing them into new drives. Not cheap, but... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Mathieu's back!
pics stored on a redundant server and backed up to a local drive, then lost everything when the basement flooded. There's a reason for the off-site backup copy. My web site is on a server miles away. It's also on this machine, and another copy is on a thumb drive (actually a crappy MP3 player) in my desk drawer at work. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Economics (was Sulfur good?) now Sieg heil
Actually, theONE who wants to be emperor of the world for life is barry satoro. The parallels between his rise to power and the rise of corporal shickelgruber are astounding. By the way, both changed their names to a stage name. No no no NO, only those who believe that GWB should be elected emperor for life should be able to vote. Hendrik who is amazed at the amount of retards in the world ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Frankenheap weldery
The heap's been getting kind of noisy lately, so yesterday I jacked it up and dropped the exhaust system. Full of holes! The top of the pipe where it goes into the muffler was half gone. I used the $50 Hobart wire-feed welder to stitch some scraps of exhaust pipe metal (new, from cutoffs) over the worst of the holes, and put it back. That took four hours. The smoke wrench was required to heat the retaining nuts red-hot so that they could be removed intact. Not all holes were addressed, but the big ones were and I was sick of it by then. That damned salt! I really need a new exhaust system, but those aren't cheap [but I am] and where's the fun in that? The exhaust was a single piece that couldn't be removed from the car unless it was perhaps very high in the air. Aren't most of these two pieces, normally? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] how to check block heater
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 01:44:47 -0600 Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Craig McCluskey wrote: On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 14:58:12 -0800 (PST) Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: What should the resistance reading be? It's a 400 W heater that runs on 120 VAC. But he said suburban. Oh, yeah, he did, didn't he! 2 E 120 * 120 R = - = --- = 36 ohms P 400 But the formula is correct. :) So whoever can plug the power of his block heater into the denominator and calculate his resistance. For a 500 W heater, R = 28.8 ohms. For a 1000 W heater, R = 14.4 ohms. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] how to check block heater
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 01:44:47 -0600 Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Craig McCluskey wrote: On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 14:58:12 -0800 (PST) Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: What should the resistance reading be? It's a 400 W heater that runs on 120 VAC. But he said suburban. Oh, yeah, he did, didn't he?! 2 E 120 * 120 R = - = --- = 36 ohms P 400 But the formula is correct. :) So whoever can plug the power of his block heater into the denominator and calculate his resistance. For a 500 W heater, R = 28.8 ohms. For a 1000 W heater, R = 14.4 ohms. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] how to check block heater
umelectrical theory. Bob R On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.netwrote: On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 01:44:47 -0600 Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Craig McCluskey wrote: On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 14:58:12 -0800 (PST) Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: What should the resistance reading be? It's a 400 W heater that runs on 120 VAC. But he said suburban. Oh, yeah, he did, didn't he?! 2 E 120 * 120 R = - = --- = 36 ohms P 400 But the formula is correct. :) So whoever can plug the power of his block heater into the denominator and calculate his resistance. For a 500 W heater, R = 28.8 ohms. For a 1000 W heater, R = 14.4 ohms. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap weldery
I have successfully welded up some cracks in my 220D but then drove over a raised(because the asphalt was shaved for repaving) manhole cover which ripped half the exhaust off the car. I then replaced the whole thing up to the front pipe. I did however enjoy driving it down Bostons Newbury street without an exhaust. The oudoor cafes and restaurants weren't amused. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 10, 2010, at 10:25 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: The heap's been getting kind of noisy lately, so yesterday I jacked it up and dropped the exhaust system. Full of holes! The top of the pipe where it goes into the muffler was half gone. I used the $50 Hobart wire-feed welder to stitch some scraps of exhaust pipe metal (new, from cutoffs) over the worst of the holes, and put it back. That took four hours. The smoke wrench was required to heat the retaining nuts red-hot so that they could be removed intact. Not all holes were addressed, but the big ones were and I was sick of it by then. That damned salt! I really need a new exhaust system, but those aren't cheap [but I am] and where's the fun in that? The exhaust was a single piece that couldn't be removed from the car unless it was perhaps very high in the air. Aren't most of these two pieces, normally? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel delivery valve job
Oh yea, i remember you sending me that stuff. I am sure I have it still but if you want you can send it again just in case I dont. Craig McCluskey wrote: On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 15:32:02 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: IF you sent me info and pictures I may or may not have it around somewhere. I need to start digging thru my stuff and getting it up there. I sent you the following ZIP files of pictures: 940K Dec 19 2005 Alternator.zip 1.6M Dec 19 2005 Axle.shaft.change.zip 4.8M Dec 19 2005 Dashboard.zip 1.2M Dec 19 2005 Fuel.tank+sender.zip 5.1M Dec 19 2005 Hirschmann.Antenna.zip 1.5M Dec 19 2005 Hood.Hinges.zip 6.3M Dec 20 2005 Injection.Pump+Injectors.1.zip 4.1M Dec 20 2005 Injection.Pump+Injectors.2.zip 261K Dec 3 2005 Vacuum.system.zip 1.1M Dec 19 2005 W123.Seat.zip If you want, I can send them again. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] how to check block heater
What should the reading be? If its open I assume of course its bad. Craig McCluskey wrote: On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 15:48:47 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: How do you check to see if a block heater is any good? Put a volt meter on it and check resistance? Yup, that's how you do it (actually, with an ohmmeter, but they are usually built into voltmeters). Check it also at the far end of the extension cord to check that, too. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] how to check block heater
So, 36 ohms? Craig McCluskey wrote: On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 14:58:12 -0800 (PST) Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: What should the resistance reading be? It's a 400 W heater that runs on 120 VAC. Since Power = Current x Voltage (P = I E), P 400 I = --- = - = 3.33 A E 120 From Ohm's Law, E 120 E = I R = R = --- = -- = 36 ohms I 3.33 You can also combine the formula for power and Ohm's Law algebraically before substituting in numbers. You end up with, 2 E 120 * 120 R = - = --- = 36 ohms P 400 Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.131/2608 - Release Date: 01/08/10 13:35:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] how to check block heater
Im not thinking its working because i had it plugged in for a couple of hours yesterday and it did not help with the starting, although I think the bigger problem was the batteries (2) were low. I put in on the charger for about half an hour and it started up after some cranking. Has to crank longer because it does have some dead glow plugs. It was so cold I did not feel like doing too much more research than that. LWB250 wrote: Why wouldn't you just plug it in and after about 30 minutes put your hand on the side of the engine to see if it's warm? If you have power to the plug then the heater is probably open. A quick test with an ohmmeter or test light would reveal the condition Dan --- On Sat, 1/9/10, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] how to check block heater To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 7:26 PM How do you check to see if a block heater is any good? Put a volt meter on it and check resistance? Pretty good way. The _best_ way is to plug it into a wattmeter, like the ubiquitous (and inexpensive) Kill-A-Watt. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB Window Weatherstripping
Rusty can, gary only sells from the worldpac catalog he says. Mountain Man wrote: OK Don wrote: The weatherstrip/deal on the outside of the windows on the son's '84 190Ds (two of them) are rotted, rusted, etc. MB wants $57 ea. for these strips. I believe either of the list purveyors of parts can get dealer parts at better than dealer prices. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] how to check block heater
Yea, and I really do not know how many watts the heater in those things are. Fmiser wrote: Craig McCluskey wrote: On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 14:58:12 -0800 (PST) Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: What should the resistance reading be? It's a 400 W heater that runs on 120 VAC. But he said suburban. 2 E 120 * 120 R = - = --- = 36 ohms P 400 But the formula is correct. :) -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Economics (was Sulfur good?)
Speaking of low voter turnout, our county recently had a vote on a tax to pay for a new court house. The old one was built in the 30's, and has been remodeled several times in the past. It could stand to have some work done to it, maybe expand it a little. So, the vote for this tax is to pay for tearing down the old one and building a new one. It passed. Out of 50K registered voters in the county, less than 3000 voted. LarryT wrote: You wrote Only land owners with a high school graduation B+ should be allowed to vote Oh man, couldn't agree more! The Motor Voter law was a huge mistake IMHO. If people can't be bothered to use a little energy to seek out the Voter Registration Agency and become a registered voter then they shouldn't be allowed to vote! Same with using a little energy to find and visit a local voting booth on the appropriate day and cast your vote for the person of your choice. Making it so easy that it becomes a click of a mouse demeans the process IMO. It's he most important thing we do to maintain democracy and it doesn't need to be placed on automatic. I dislike low voter turnout as much as the next guy but it's a personal decision to vote/not vote. People must be made to appreciate the things others have done to guarantee our right to vote. Just adding names to the voter rolls doesn't make people realize the importance of voting in general and *their* vote in particular. LarryT 91 300D -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Auxiliary fuse kit for blower motor anyone BTDT
I need some help installing this kit on my 300SDL. If I'm reading the FSM correctly, the connections are made under the fuse box at #16 fuse. I don't see where there is enough slack in the attached wires to allow getting under there. Perhaps there is more disassembly required than I think. Thanks Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Auxiliary fuse kit for blower motor anyone BTDT
I have never heard of this on a SDL. Every one I have seen already has had this done. Now on the older 123's and 126's yes. Does yours not already have the strip fuse for the blower? harry watkins wrote: I need some help installing this kit on my 300SDL. If I'm reading the FSM correctly, the connections are made under the fuse box at #16 fuse. I don't see where there is enough slack in the attached wires to allow getting under there. Perhaps there is more disassembly required than I think. Thanks Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] I just dont know what to say about the photos.
Original Message Subject:1983 Mercedes 300SD Turbo - $800 (Italy, TX) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 09:19:53 -0800 (PST) From: ka...@striplin.net To: ka...@striplin.net ka...@striplin.net has forwarded you this craigslist.org posting. Please see below for more information. Visit the posting at http://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/pts/1545628911.html to contact the person who posted this. 1983 Mercedes 300SD Turbo Date: 2010-01-10, 12:42AM THREW A PISTON SLEEVE...OTHER THAN THAT THIS CAR IS A STEAL AT 800. i HAVE PUT OVER 5500 INTO IT...NEW TRANSMISSIO, BALL JOINTS, CONTROL ARMS, GLOW PLUGS, RADIATOR, ALTERNATOR, AC SENDING UNIT, TIRES AND BRAKES..BODY IS STRAIGHT AND ALL GLASS IS GOOD...POWER WINDOWS WORK..WILL THROW IN ALL EXTRA PARTS I HAVE. WILL PART OUT IF NO ONE BUYS IT WHOLE BUT BETTER HURRY. MICHAEL 817-262-1269 * Location: Italy, TX * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Original URL: http://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/pts/1545628911.html /this craigslist posting was forwarded to you by someone using our email-a-friend feature - if you want to prevent these, please go to: /http://www.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/te/sF2aAJWZyR3csBXau4Wa0VmbN -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com -- next part -- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: Attached Message Part URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20100110/dfaf1275/attachment.pl ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Economics (was Sulfur good?)
the military is one of the biggest welfare scam of them all. the tired and poor who can't make it at the drive through at hardees. On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 7:26 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Scott Ritchey wrote: I'd be inclined to limit voting to taxpayers who are also veterans. Ever read Robert Heinlein's Starship Troopers? A citizen was somebody who had served in the military, and only citizens could vote. There were no limits on who could serve in the military, for denying them because of age, health, or gender would be denying them the rights of citizenship. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- save 5% on our already low, low prices. use coupon code DAVE at checkout. www. BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Mathieu's back!
On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 6:01 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mathieu's back! my advice is to buy high and buy on rock. (but don't buy when high on rock!) And I lived on high rock and sold. (That's High Rock Lake for those who are not intimately familiar with the lair of the vice president of Jalopinists, Inc.) Glad things are comming back together Mathieu!. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Mathieu's back!
i thought you were dead :( On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Richard Hattaway rhatta...@rocketmail.com wrote: On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 6:01 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mathieu's back! my advice is to buy high and buy on rock. (but don't buy when high on rock!) And I lived on high rock and sold. (That's High Rock Lake for those who are not intimately familiar with the lair of the vice president of Jalopinists, Inc.) Glad things are comming back together Mathieu!. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- save 5% on our already low, low prices. use coupon code DAVE at checkout. www. BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Auxiliary fuse kit for blower motor anyone BTDT
No, fuse #16 was eliminated after end number 269896, my end number is 267785, so I have the melted fuse box at fuse # 16 location with a brand new, unused, PO installed blower motor and a fuse kit in my hand. Thanks Harry I have never heard of this on a SDL. Every one I have seen already has had this done. Now on the older 123's and 126's yes. Does yours not already have the strip fuse for the blower? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Auxiliary fuse kit for blower motor anyone BTDT
I don't know the specifics of installing the kit. I think if you unhook the battery and unscrew the fusebox, that one wire attaches to the hot end of the fuseblock at #16, and goes out to the inner fender. Then the new strip fuse holder, then the wire to the blower. The wire to the blower may go back into the fuse box and hook on the terminal at the other end of the #16 fuse. I know my 86 SDL did not have the external fuse ubtil after the fusebox melted. Then the PO had it installed. The burgundy 87 did have the external fusebox and the current 87 does not have it. No, fuse #16 was eliminated after end number 269896, my end number is 267785, so I have the melted fuse box at fuse # 16 location with a brand new, unused, PO installed blower motor and a fuse kit in my hand. Thanks Harry I have never heard of this on a SDL. Every one I have seen already has had this done. Now on the older 123's and 126's yes. Does yours not already have the strip fuse for the blower? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] you ever see the patriots look this bad?
i like ray lewis a lot and can't help but wish him another championship. what a beatdown so far! -- save 5% on our already low, low prices. use coupon code DAVE at checkout. www. BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Auxiliary fuse kit for blower motor anyone BTDT
Every MB fuse box seems like you describe! All kinds of wires crammed behind the panel with no room to change anything. When I worked on my W123 fuse box I had to release the screws holding it to the body and try to find slack somewhere under the box. It's been a while since I did that. Wish I could remember a little better. Good luck - Larry OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: harry watkins harry...@bellsouth.net Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 12:11 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Auxiliary fuse kit for blower motor anyone BTDT I need some help installing this kit on my 300SDL. If I'm reading the FSM correctly, the connections are made under the fuse box at #16 fuse. I don't see where there is enough slack in the attached wires to allow getting under there. Perhaps there is more disassembly required than I think. Thanks Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] A flock of Benzes for sale
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Economics (was Sulfur good?)
One should be very careful of such generalizations. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Economics (was Sulfur good?) the military is one of the biggest welfare scam of them all. the tired and poor who can't make it at the drive through at hardees. On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 7:26 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Scott Ritchey wrote: I'd be inclined to limit voting to taxpayers who are also veterans. Ever read Robert Heinlein's Starship Troopers? A citizen was somebody who had served in the military, and only citizens could vote. There were no limits on who could serve in the military, for denying them because of age, health, or gender would be denying them the rights of citizenship. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- save 5% on our already low, low prices. use coupon code DAVE at checkout. www. BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Economics (was Sulfur good?)
Yes, they have guns. And big fast airplanes with bombs and rockets and such. --R WILTON wrote: One should be very careful of such generalizations. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Economics (was Sulfur good?) the military is one of the biggest welfare scam of them all. the tired and poor who can't make it at the drive through at hardees. On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 7:26 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Scott Ritchey wrote: I'd be inclined to limit voting to taxpayers who are also veterans. Ever read Robert Heinlein's Starship Troopers? A citizen was somebody who had served in the military, and only citizens could vote. There were no limits on who could serve in the military, for denying them because of age, health, or gender would be denying them the rights of citizenship. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- save 5% on our already low, low prices. use coupon code DAVE at checkout. www. BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Economics (was Sulfur good?)
---And that's not all. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Economics (was Sulfur good?) Yes, they have guns. And big fast airplanes with bombs and rockets and such. --R WILTON wrote: One should be very careful of such generalizations. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Economics (was Sulfur good?) the military is one of the biggest welfare scam of them all. the tired and poor who can't make it at the drive through at hardees. On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 7:26 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Scott Ritchey wrote: I'd be inclined to limit voting to taxpayers who are also veterans. Ever read Robert Heinlein's Starship Troopers? A citizen was somebody who had served in the military, and only citizens could vote. There were no limits on who could serve in the military, for denying them because of age, health, or gender would be denying them the rights of citizenship. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- save 5% on our already low, low prices. use coupon code DAVE at checkout. www. BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Auxiliary fuse kit for blower motor anyone BTDT
Several months ago, I was able to pull the fuse box up and out and roll it upside down to access the terminals on the underside. Wilton - Original Message - From: harry watkins harry...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 12:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] Auxiliary fuse kit for blower motor anyone BTDT I need some help installing this kit on my 300SDL. If I'm reading the FSM correctly, the connections are made under the fuse box at #16 fuse. I don't see where there is enough slack in the attached wires to allow getting under there. Perhaps there is more disassembly required than I think. Thanks Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] how to check block heater
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Yea, and I really do not know how many watts the heater in those things are. http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B9MDBU/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Auxiliary fuse kit for blower motor anyone BTDT
Wilton, did you have to remove the firewall that the box sets behind? What about disconnecting wiring to gain slack? Or was it just a muscle job? Thanks Harry - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Auxiliary fuse kit for blower motor anyone BTDT Several months ago, I was able to pull the fuse box up and out and roll it upside down to access the terminals on the underside. Wilton - Original Message - From: harry watkins harry...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 12:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] Auxiliary fuse kit for blower motor anyone BTDT I need some help installing this kit on my 300SDL. If I'm reading the FSM correctly, the connections are made under the fuse box at #16 fuse. I don't see where there is enough slack in the attached wires to allow getting under there. Perhaps there is more disassembly required than I think. Thanks Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Military as welfare.
Gary. I'm usually tolerant of people who know no better than to make such uninformed statements. I thought that you had at least a glimmer of sense, guess I was wrong. The freedoms that you enjoy, including the right to free speech, are rare in this world today. A thin line of Hardees rejects are all that stand between us, including you, and a miserable, short and brutal life. That freedom was and is paid in blood, including some of mine. Please research your subject a little better before you piss me off any further. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 1/10/2010 1:46 PM, WILTON wrote: One should be very careful of such generalizations. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Economics (was Sulfur good?) the military is one of the biggest welfare scam of them all. the tired and poor who can't make it at the drive through at hardees. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Questions from my neighbor
On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Kevin ke...@mordred.punk.net wrote: As long as it has 7500 miles or more on it, it won't be a problem. Right. The Kalifornia government just doesn't want you to buy a new diesel car. It doesn't keep you from owning one that was bought elsewhere. In fact, owning an older diesel is less of a hassle there than many places, since they're exempt from smog testing. I've seen plenty of 123, 124, and 126 diesels in the Silicon Valley area. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Military as welfare.
Well put Fred. Some of my blood is over there as well. When I read Gary's post, my mind processed it the same as when Jimmy Carter said during his campaign that he would welcome the Vietnam deserters back from Canada. Gary now occupies the same status with me as Jane Fonda and Jimmy Carter. As my USMC DI was fond of saying, lower than whale S***. Harry . Gary. I'm usually tolerant of people who know no better than to make such uninformed statements. I thought that you had at least a glimmer of sense, guess I was wrong. The freedoms that you enjoy, including the right to free speech, are rare in this world today. A thin line of Hardees rejects are all that stand between us, including you, and a miserable, short and brutal life. That freedom was and is paid in blood, including some of mine. Please research your subject a little better before you piss me off any further. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Military as welfare.
Amen. I'm trying to be patient. Wilton - Original Message - From: Frederick W Moir fred.s...@verizon.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Military as welfare. Gary. I'm usually tolerant of people who know no better than to make such uninformed statements. I thought that you had at least a glimmer of sense, guess I was wrong. The freedoms that you enjoy, including the right to free speech, are rare in this world today. A thin line of Hardees rejects are all that stand between us, including you, and a miserable, short and brutal life. That freedom was and is paid in blood, including some of mine. Please research your subject a little better before you piss me off any further. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 1/10/2010 1:46 PM, WILTON wrote: One should be very careful of such generalizations. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Economics (was Sulfur good?) the military is one of the biggest welfare scam of them all. the tired and poor who can't make it at the drive through at hardees. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I just dont know what to say about the photos.
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Visit the posting at http://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/pts/1545628911.html to contact the person who posted this. I never heard of a house throwing a piston sleeve before, but it sounds like something Wilton could fix pretty easily. ;) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Auxiliary fuse kit for blower motor anyone BTDT
Oops; maybe I confusing it with pulling the fuse box out of the 124. Wilton - Original Message - From: harry watkins harry...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Auxiliary fuse kit for blower motor anyone BTDT Wilton, did you have to remove the firewall that the box sets behind? What about disconnecting wiring to gain slack? Or was it just a muscle job? Thanks Harry - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Auxiliary fuse kit for blower motor anyone BTDT Several months ago, I was able to pull the fuse box up and out and roll it upside down to access the terminals on the underside. Wilton - Original Message - From: harry watkins harry...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 12:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] Auxiliary fuse kit for blower motor anyone BTDT I need some help installing this kit on my 300SDL. If I'm reading the FSM correctly, the connections are made under the fuse box at #16 fuse. I don't see where there is enough slack in the attached wires to allow getting under there. Perhaps there is more disassembly required than I think. Thanks Harry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gonna snow in ATL today.
Same here! From a low of 2 last Friday to a high of 54 this coming Wednesday. On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Rolf Martin-Hoster r...@winmutt.comwrote: I am hearing its going to be a high of 54 by friday! Typical Atlanta weather single digits to spring in 3 days or less! -Rolf -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB Window Weatherstripping
I thought he was refering to you as one of the parts purveyors --- - but I didn't think you'd have any that were newer than what we have. On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Rusty can, gary only sells from the worldpac catalog he says. Mountain Man wrote: OK Don wrote: The weatherstrip/deal on the outside of the windows on the son's '84 190Ds (two of them) are rotted, rusted, etc. MB wants $57 ea. for these strips. I believe either of the list purveyors of parts can get dealer parts at better than dealer prices. mao -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Economics (was Sulfur good?)
The only thing that makes a democracy work, is an INFORMED voting populous. You CANNOT be informed by watching TV, and the newpapers are not much better. You CANNOT be informed by readin/listening to only one interest groups point of view. They ALL lie to you. On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 7:18 AM, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: You wrote Only land owners with a high school graduation B+ should be allowed to vote Oh man, couldn't agree more! The Motor Voter law was a huge mistake IMHO. If people can't be bothered to use a little energy to seek out the Voter Registration Agency and become a registered voter then they shouldn't be allowed to vote! Same with using a little energy to find and visit a local voting booth on the appropriate day and cast your vote for the person of your choice. Making it so easy that it becomes a click of a mouse demeans the process IMO. It's he most important thing we do to maintain democracy and it doesn't need to be placed on automatic. I dislike low voter turnout as much as the next guy but it's a personal decision to vote/not vote. People must be made to appreciate the things others have done to guarantee our right to vote. Just adding names to the voter rolls doesn't make people realize the importance of voting in general and *their* vote in particular. LarryT 91 300D -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CHEAP 115
I do have the upper dash, but that console looks sweet. The panels would be nice, as would spare seats that match it instead of having duplicolor and cracking clay On Jan 8, 2010, at 7:37 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: I was going to take the interior from the yellow for Gump. Really like the wood trim. Thought you already had wood trim? And the bloody knuckles to prove it? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Military as welfare.
Ditto - OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Frederick W Moir fred.s...@verizon.net Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 2:27 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Military as welfare. Gary. I'm usually tolerant of people who know no better than to make such uninformed statements. I thought that you had at least a glimmer of sense, guess I was wrong. The freedoms that you enjoy, including the right to free speech, are rare in this world today. A thin line of Hardees rejects are all that stand between us, including you, and a miserable, short and brutal life. That freedom was and is paid in blood, including some of mine. Please research your subject a little better before you piss me off any further. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 1/10/2010 1:46 PM, WILTON wrote: One should be very careful of such generalizations. Wilton - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Economics (was Sulfur good?) the military is one of the biggest welfare scam of them all. the tired and poor who can't make it at the drive through at hardees. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel delivery valve job
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 10:40:02 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Oh yea, i remember you sending me that stuff. I am sure I have it still but if you want you can send it again just in case I dont. How about you give a shout if you find you don't have them? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I just dont know what to say about the photos.
Or maybe Jim could, anyway. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I just dont know what to say about the photos. On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Visit the posting at http://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/pts/1545628911.html to contact the person who posted this. I never heard of a house throwing a piston sleeve before, but it sounds like something Wilton could fix pretty easily. ;) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Older
Someone scribed: You wrote Only land owners with a high school graduation B+ should be allowed to vote What a babble of BS. I retire and move into a rental condo after working 40 years after my 4 years of Armed Service, which I joined when I could no longer afford school. And some rectum wants to take my right to vote away? Where the chuck is the righteous outrage on this? -- Pete Arnold When you get older, you don't regret the things you did in life. You regret the things you didn't do. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Older
i can't take on all the idiocy. i don't have the strength On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Peter T. Arnold pm7...@comcast.net wrote: Someone scribed: You wrote Only land owners with a high school graduation B+ should be allowed to vote What a babble of BS. I retire and move into a rental condo after working 40 years after my 4 years of Armed Service, which I joined when I could no longer afford school. And some rectum wants to take my right to vote away? Where the chuck is the righteous outrage on this? -- Pete Arnold When you get older, you don't regret the things you did in life. You regret the things you didn't do. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- save 5% on our already low, low prices. use coupon code DAVE at checkout. www. BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Older
Which is this? Main Entry: *id·i·o·cy* Pronunciation: \?i-de--?-se-\ Function: /noun/ Inflected Form(s): /plural/ *id·i·o·cies* Date: circa 1529 *1*: usually offensive *:* extreme mental retardation http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Idiocy# *2* *:* something notably stupid or foolish -- Pete Arnold My Mind Not Only Wanders, Sometimes it Leaves Completely! On 1/10/2010 5:50 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: i can't take on all the idiocy. i don't have the strength On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Peter T. Arnoldpm7...@comcast.net wrote: Someone scribed: You wrote Only land owners with a high school graduation B+ should be allowed to vote What a babble of BS. I retire and move into a rental condo after working 40 years after my 4 years of Armed Service, which I joined when I could no longer afford school. And some rectum wants to take my right to vote away? Where the chuck is the righteous outrage on this? -- Pete Arnold When you get older, you don't regret the things you did in life. You regret the things you didn't do. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] how to check block heater
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Yea, and I really do not know how many watts the heater in those things are. Well, it's probably at least 400 W. And it can't be more than 1800 W unless it has a 20 Amp plug on the end. So somewhere between 8 and 40 ohms. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] diesel fuel supplement
Do any of you guys use that Powerservice diesel supplement, either the stuff in the white bottle for winter, or the Diesel Kleen in the grey bottle? Does it really help increase MPG and better running? Or is it a waste of money? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB Window Weatherstripping
well used parts I suppose, but you are right, anything I have would probably be in the same shape, but you are more than welcome to look around next time you are around. OK Don wrote: I thought he was refering to you as one of the parts purveyors --- - but I didn't think you'd have any that were newer than what we have. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel delivery valve job
that will work. Craig McCluskey wrote: On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 10:40:02 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Oh yea, i remember you sending me that stuff. I am sure I have it still but if you want you can send it again just in case I dont. How about you give a shout if you find you don't have them? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] how to check block heater
That stupid Suburban pissed me off just a little while ago. So I pulled into the local Walmart to fill it up with 78 worth of diesel because they are still selling for 2.59 everywhere else is 2.66-2.69, I get in it to start, click, nothing. I know exactly what it is, those side post battery connectors tend to loosen up after a while, so I go to open the hood and it wont open. Crap. Sometimes it will stick but if I slam the drivers door, it pops open. No suck luck today. I finally got it to open after about 5 min of messing with it. Jiggled the bat cable on one of the batteries, and it fired right up. Fmiser wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Yea, and I really do not know how many watts the heater in those things are. Well, it's probably at least 400 W. And it can't be more than 1800 W unless it has a 20 Amp plug on the end. So somewhere between 8 and 40 ohms. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] how to check block heater
$500 for it, anybody? ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] how to check block heater That stupid Suburban pissed me off just a little while ago. So I pulled into the local Walmart to fill it up with 78 worth of diesel because they are still selling for 2.59 everywhere else is 2.66-2.69, I get in it to start, click, nothing. I know exactly what it is, those side post battery connectors tend to loosen up after a while, so I go to open the hood and it wont open. Crap. Sometimes it will stick but if I slam the drivers door, it pops open. No suck luck today. I finally got it to open after about 5 min of messing with it. Jiggled the bat cable on one of the batteries, and it fired right up. Fmiser wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Yea, and I really do not know how many watts the heater in those things are. Well, it's probably at least 400 W. And it can't be more than 1800 W unless it has a 20 Amp plug on the end. So somewhere between 8 and 40 ohms. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] how to check block heater
add a 4 to the front of that and we will talk. WILTON wrote: $500 for it, anybody? ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] how to check block heater That stupid Suburban pissed me off just a little while ago. So I pulled into the local Walmart to fill it up with 78 worth of diesel because they are still selling for 2.59 everywhere else is 2.66-2.69, I get in it to start, click, nothing. I know exactly what it is, those side post battery connectors tend to loosen up after a while, so I go to open the hood and it wont open. Crap. Sometimes it will stick but if I slam the drivers door, it pops open. No suck luck today. I finally got it to open after about 5 min of messing with it. Jiggled the bat cable on one of the batteries, and it fired right up. Fmiser wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Yea, and I really do not know how many watts the heater in those things are. Well, it's probably at least 400 W. And it can't be more than 1800 W unless it has a 20 Amp plug on the end. So somewhere between 8 and 40 ohms. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.725 / Virus Database: 270.14.132/2611 - Release Date: 01/10/10 01:35:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] diesel fuel supplement
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 17:38:35 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Do any of you guys use that Powerservice diesel supplement, either the stuff in the white bottle for winter, or the Diesel Kleen in the grey bottle? Does it really help increase MPG and better running? Or is it a waste of money? I tried it when we were in Austin to stop some pinging that had started. It just made it worse. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap weldery
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 07:25:17 -0800 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: The exhaust was a single piece that couldn't be removed from the car unless it was perhaps very high in the air. Aren't most of these two pieces, normally? The ones I have worked on have been one piece from the downpipe back. The downpipe connects to the manifold near the engine. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] how to check block heater
For a Cheby? Nope. On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 5:51 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: $500 for it, anybody? ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] how to check block heater That stupid Suburban pissed me off just a little while ago. So I pulled into the local Walmart to fill it up with 78 worth of diesel because they are still selling for 2.59 everywhere else is 2.66-2.69, I get in it to start, click, nothing. I know exactly what it is, those side post battery connectors tend to loosen up after a while, so I go to open the hood and it wont open. Crap. Sometimes it will stick but if I slam the drivers door, it pops open. No suck luck today. I finally got it to open after about 5 min of messing with it. Jiggled the bat cable on one of the batteries, and it fired right up. Fmiser wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Yea, and I really do not know how many watts the heater in those things are. Well, it's probably at least 400 W. And it can't be more than 1800 W unless it has a 20 Amp plug on the end. So somewhere between 8 and 40 ohms. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] diesel fuel supplement
I use the stuff in the white bottle in the hopes of keeping the fuel from gelling in the cold, since we don't get #1 fuel here. I've never had fuel gell, so maybe it works??? On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.netwrote: On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 17:38:35 -0600 Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Do any of you guys use that Powerservice diesel supplement, either the stuff in the white bottle for winter, or the Diesel Kleen in the grey bottle? Does it really help increase MPG and better running? Or is it a waste of money? I tried it when we were in Austin to stop some pinging that had started. It just made it worse. Craig -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap weldery
Since you have a welder, make a new one from tubing from NAPA -- I did that to one of the 115s - a long time ago. On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Craig McCluskey diese...@pisquared.netwrote: On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 07:25:17 -0800 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: The exhaust was a single piece that couldn't be removed from the car unless it was perhaps very high in the air. Aren't most of these two pieces, normally? The ones I have worked on have been one piece from the downpipe back. The downpipe connects to the manifold near the engine. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Economics (was Sulfur good?) now Sieg heil
WILTON wrote: BS! I couldn't get that from high school. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Mathieu's back!
Rolf wrote: I have been working on getting everything memorabilia wise converted over to digital and then stored on a local server, backed up to a usb drive and then stored on a remote server... We burned all our memorabilia. Nobody cares, and from time to time when we want to get sentimental, we don't. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Economics (was Sulfur good?)
LarryT wrote: I dislike low voter turnout as much as the next guy but it's a personal decision to vote/not vote. For those very reasons, plus the party bickering, I choose not to participate - my personal decision. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Military as welfare.
LarryT wrote: Ditto - I'm not moderator here, but c'mon guys. You can't just read the party line. Can the party line ever be wrong or bad? If so, shouldn't we hear about it or reason further? I have no real opinion about the issue, but I think that there could be some rationale that could be elucidating to discuss, if it were not so inflammatory. While we may not like to hear the dialog, these types of thoughts are not expressed from a mind with a vacuum inside, but from a mind with a reason - I mean, it is known that there are plenty of veterans here, hence, that type of rhetoric does not come without forethought, really. If that type of rhetoric does come without forethought, then we agree, there is a mind with a vacuum inside. Perhaps we could listen prior to our flame throwers? We all have our reasons, don't we? Let's shoot the redcoats, not the army of the republic. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Older
Peter wrote: And some rectum wants to take my right to vote away? Where the chuck is the righteous outrage on this? It ain't your father's country anymore. Welcome to the brave new world. I couldn't vote either. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Economics (was Sulfur good?)
Ok, I do not post a lot of political stuff here but . The Dems have no idea what is going on. My mom and dad were big dems. My dad flew B24's in WWII. I would not vote Dem if tied to a hanging tree. Sorry. All Dems are idiots( man I sound like Gary now) but it is true, Chris, I have met you and like you. But my God. Figure it out. I fight my sister every day, --Original Message-- From: Mountain Man Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List ReplyTo: Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Jan 10, 2010 8:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Economics (was Sulfur good?) LarryT wrote: I dislike low voter turnout as much as the next guy but it's a personal decision to vote/not vote. For those very reasons, plus the party bickering, I choose not to participate - my personal decision. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: how to check block heater
$500 for it, anybody? ;) add a 4 to the front of that and we will talk. OK, $900 then! :-) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] how to check block heater
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: That stupid Suburban pissed me off just a little while ago. So I pulled into the local Walmart to fill it up with 78 worth of diesel because they are still selling for 2.59 everywhere else is 2.66-2.69, I get in it to start, click, nothing. I know exactly what it is, those side post battery connectors tend to loosen up after a while, so I go to open the hood and it wont open. Crap. Sometimes it will stick but if I slam the drivers door, it pops open. No suck luck today. I finally got it to open after about 5 min of messing with it. Jiggled the bat cable on one of the batteries, and it fired right up. I have, over the years, converted every side post to top post. The side post just isn't rugged enough. I also coat the terminals (when clean) with wheel bearing grease. No corrosion! -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] how to check block heater
Lots of good electrical theory answers, but here is a good way to tell. Put an ohmmeter on it. If you read an open, it is broken. If you get some resistance, it is probably working. The heating element probably won't change in resistance value - it is quite binary (working or broken). Folks make things SO difficult. On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: How do you check to see if a block heater is any good? Put a volt meter on it and check resistance? Im not sure the block heater in my Suburban is working. I know I have some dead glow plugs. Thing would not start today, almost did though. I plugged it in for a while and it did not seem to do anything. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- You are what you are now because you were then. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Military as welfare.
our modern volunteer standing army is just another welfare line. it is jsut another place to house those retarded kids we are systematically producing in droves. on this list the american imperialism and war profiteering is what makes me free. i disagree not only that this could possibly make us free but also with the notion that this is any longer a particularly free country. as long as the american people continue to capitulate to tyranny, we will become less and less free. no number of innocent iraqis tortured or murdered for fun and profit is going to change that. only active mass resistance to the civil authorities can change that, not mass murder. now i will be encouraged to move to albania for dissent. only thing is that this is my country too even if pitiful fools try to make it into a totalitarian plutocracy and think they are doing god's work in the process. On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: LarryT wrote: Ditto - I'm not moderator here, but c'mon guys. You can't just read the party line. Can the party line ever be wrong or bad? If so, shouldn't we hear about it or reason further? I have no real opinion about the issue, but I think that there could be some rationale that could be elucidating to discuss, if it were not so inflammatory. While we may not like to hear the dialog, these types of thoughts are not expressed from a mind with a vacuum inside, but from a mind with a reason - I mean, it is known that there are plenty of veterans here, hence, that type of rhetoric does not come without forethought, really. If that type of rhetoric does come without forethought, then we agree, there is a mind with a vacuum inside. Perhaps we could listen prior to our flame throwers? We all have our reasons, don't we? Let's shoot the redcoats, not the army of the republic. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- save 5% on our already low, low prices. use coupon code DAVE at checkout. www. BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Older
fools who have been influenced by lies of a government at war with them and the idiotic neocon talk radio. they are suckers for any propaganda myth. look at how they hang on the propaganda myth i invented for them? On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Peter T. Arnold pm7...@comcast.net wrote: Which is this? Main Entry: *id·i·o·cy* Pronunciation: \?i-de--?-se-\ Function: /noun/ Inflected Form(s): /plural/ *id·i·o·cies* Date: circa 1529 *1*: usually offensive *:* extreme mental retardation http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Idiocy# *2* *:* something notably stupid or foolish -- Pete Arnold My Mind Not Only Wanders, Sometimes it Leaves Completely! On 1/10/2010 5:50 PM, Gary Hurst wrote: i can't take on all the idiocy. i don't have the strength On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Peter T. Arnoldpm7...@comcast.net wrote: Someone scribed: You wrote Only land owners with a high school graduation B+ should be allowed to vote What a babble of BS. I retire and move into a rental condo after working 40 years after my 4 years of Armed Service, which I joined when I could no longer afford school. And some rectum wants to take my right to vote away? Where the chuck is the righteous outrage on this? -- Pete Arnold When you get older, you don't regret the things you did in life. You regret the things you didn't do. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- save 5% on our already low, low prices. use coupon code DAVE at checkout. www. BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] diesel fuel supplement
I use diesel Kleen, its good stuff. As Marshall said an additive when you've got a problem might be worth the time, otherwise its not... I put a shot in each car every fall and again in the spring to drive out any water (which shouldn't be a problem for me since the cars really don't sit) and occasionally if I notice rough running, maybe once every other year, say around 40,000 miles. My 240D once I thought had bad motor mounts. Then I found a bottle of Diesel Kleen I'd forgotten I had. I ran the tank down low and put the whole dammed bottle in (it treats some absurdly large amount of fuel when used correctly. Ran it through and refueled. Within a day the engine shake had improved 100%. I like it but I'm not going to run it every day to improve mileage thats snake oil I think. -Curt Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 17:38:35 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] diesel fuel supplement Message-ID: 4b4a64fb.4080...@striplin.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Do any of you guys use that Powerservice diesel supplement, either the stuff in the white bottle for winter, or the Diesel Kleen in the grey bottle? Does it really help increase MPG and better running? Or is it a waste of money? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Mathieu's back!
maoist! On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: Rolf wrote: I have been working on getting everything memorabilia wise converted over to digital and then stored on a local server, backed up to a usb drive and then stored on a remote server... We burned all our memorabilia. Nobody cares, and from time to time when we want to get sentimental, we don't. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- save 5% on our already low, low prices. use coupon code DAVE at checkout. www. BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] how to check block heater
I must be the only person who never had trouble with 'em. My '88 GMC S15 had side terminals and I never had any issue whatever. The '88 GMC 1500 farmtruck had 'em and we never had any trouble with that. My friend in college had an S10 Blazer and THAT had troubles but it was with the starter end of the positive cable. I fixed that one day in the parking lot with nothing but a crescent wrench... I needed it to drive to Maine (from MA, about 400 miles round trip) so I could renew the registration on my S15 that some *^%! cop had towed since the registration was 2 days expired. -Curt Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 19:35:33 -0600 From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] how to check block heater Message-ID: 20100110193533.08ad5da2.fmi...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: That stupid Suburban pissed me off just a little while ago. So I pulled into the local Walmart to fill it up with 78 worth of diesel because they are still selling for 2.59 everywhere else is 2.66-2.69, I get in it to start, click, nothing. I know exactly what it is, those side post battery connectors tend to loosen up after a while, so I go to open the hood and it wont open. Crap. Sometimes it will stick but if I slam the drivers door, it pops open. No suck luck today. I finally got it to open after about 5 min of messing with it. Jiggled the bat cable on one of the batteries, and it fired right up. I have, over the years, converted every side post to top post. The side post just isn't rugged enough. I also coat the terminals (when clean) with wheel bearing grease. No corrosion! -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] how to check block heater
Yea - honestly its all in if any one has every tried to put them wrong and bungled up the bolts. When I was doing highway recovery and someone called with a GM product, that was the first thing I suggested. I would say look - I'm happy to come get you but if your not afraid to pop the hood, wiggle the cables on the side of the battery then try to start it. 1/2 the time I gave away a perfectly good paying job saying that, and man they were they always amazed. One guy called, said he didn't have a clue what was going on, It was hot and I was dealing with a greyhound bus that wouldn't start, I told him the secret wiggle he said thanks, he tried it , it worked. I hung up and didn't think about it again. Two weeks later I get a check in the mail for $250 bucks and a note that said you saved my vacation thanks. On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I must be the only person who never had trouble with 'em. My '88 GMC S15 had side terminals and I never had any issue whatever. The '88 GMC 1500 farmtruck had 'em and we never had any trouble with that. My friend in college had an S10 Blazer and THAT had troubles but it was with the starter end of the positive cable. I fixed that one day in the parking lot with nothing but a crescent wrench... I needed it to drive to Maine (from MA, about 400 miles round trip) so I could renew the registration on my S15 that some *^%! cop had towed since the registration was 2 days expired. -Curt Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 19:35:33 -0600 From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] how to check block heater Message-ID: 20100110193533.08ad5da2.fmi...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: That stupid Suburban pissed me off just a little while ago. So I pulled into the local Walmart to fill it up with 78 worth of diesel because they are still selling for 2.59 everywhere else is 2.66-2.69, I get in it to start, click, nothing. I know exactly what it is, those side post battery connectors tend to loosen up after a while, so I go to open the hood and it wont open. Crap. Sometimes it will stick but if I slam the drivers door, it pops open. No suck luck today. I finally got it to open after about 5 min of messing with it. Jiggled the bat cable on one of the batteries, and it fired right up. I have, over the years, converted every side post to top post. The side post just isn't rugged enough. I also coat the terminals (when clean) with wheel bearing grease. No corrosion! -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] how to check block heater
I'll give you $500 for that POS. Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (300,xxx mi) Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: That stupid Suburban pissed me off just a little while ago. So I pulled into the local Walmart to fill it up with 78 worth of diesel because they are still selling for 2.59 everywhere else is 2.66-2.69, I get in it to start, click, nothing. I know exactly what it is, those side post battery connectors tend to loosen up after a while, so I go to open the hood and it wont open. Crap. Sometimes it will stick but if I slam the drivers door, it pops open. No suck luck today. I finally got it to open after about 5 min of messing with it. Jiggled the bat cable on one of the batteries, and it fired right up. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] how to check block heater
Ok, I'll give you $450. Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (300,xxx mi) Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: add a 4 to the front of that and we will talk. WILTON wrote: $500 for it, anybody? ;) Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - paper pilots licenses will expire
I just found out that the old paper pilots license will become obsolete in March - you have to apply for a replacement license to get the new valid license --- From the EAA newsletter: Pilots who still have not replaced their old paper pilot certificate should do so now or risk being unable to exercise their hard-earned privileges in the not-too-distant future. All paper pilot certificates will expire after March 31, 2010. FAR 61.19(h) reads: Except for a temporary certificate issued under §61.17 or a student pilot certificate issued under paragraph (b) of this section, the holder of a paper pilot certificate issued under this part may not exercise the privileges of that certificate after March 31, 2010. Click herehttp://www.eaaonline.org/ls.cfm?r=198572584sid=8337568m=902394u=ExAAs=http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/airmen_certification/certificate_replacement/to replace your airmen certificate. The FAA says to allow 4 to 6 weeks for mail processing and 7 to 10 days for online processing so don't delay! I just applied for mine - it was painless (other than the $2) on-line. The last one I received was in 1973 when I got the glider endorsement. -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel delivery valve job
Well, I begged and the shop decided they would do the DV on Gump. He was not pleased when I showed up, but it took all of 30 minutes to do the job, he was happy as a clam when I came to pick her up. clay On Jan 9, 2010, at 4:43 AM, LarryT wrote: Max wrote Maybe you should only do the leaking DV's in order to reduce the possibility of a problem? That's a good idea. I'll have to clean things really good to determine which is the primary culprit/s. Usually the engine is pretty clean but it's been so cold that I haven't been able to rinse it off. At the moment there's a thin film of diesel around all 5 DV hold down clamps. BTW, what kind of noise should I be listening for? I wonder how the factory/dealer does them to make sure they do it right the first time (also know as DIRTFT) ? I'm sure the factory uses a special tool to screw all 5 or 6 in at once, but if I'm very careful with my torque wrench I should be able to duplicate the torque on each DV pretty precisely, I think. I suspect the 3 stage procedure for torqueing is to insure accuracy so there must have been problems in the past. Is the metal on the IP where the DV's are installed perhaps soft which could lead to inaccurate settings? Just curious --- Thx for the suggestion - - LarryT 91 300D OilAnalysis Time? Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters? www.youroil.net -- From: Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC,53310 meade.m.dil...@navy.mil Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 11:15 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel delivery valve job According to my recollection of Marshall Booth's descriptions, it is possible to follow correct torque procedure (30Nm - release - 30Nm - release - 35Nm - lockdown) and still warp the IP body, which requires a re-do. My idea of doing one at a time (when doing them all) would help you determine which one had warped the IP body. I admit I've only rebuilt all of them at once on two different motors, and on neither motor did I start the engine between each DV rebuilt. Both were OM60x engines and on neither did I have any problems, but a thought experiment lead me to believe that an engine start to listen to the IP between each DV might be wise. Could be either too difficult or worthless if you have the intake manifold off when you re-start and can't hear anything different because of the extra noise from the intake openings in the head. Maybe you should only do the leaking DV's in order to reduce the possibility of a problem? -Max [SNIP] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel delivery valve job
Automatical defornication! I like it! Well, I begged and the shop decided they would do the DV on Gump. He was not pleased when I showed up, but it took all of 30 minutes to do the job, he was happy as a clam when I came to pick her up. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT MacBook teardown
I really liked them for repairing ipods. The iBook jobs are good too, but ham handed boy ripped the on/off switch socket from the logic and now I am minus two laptops. No more boy using computers. clay On Jan 9, 2010, at 11:28 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: So I just finished tearing apart the girl child's MacBook that the cat knocked a glass of water over into. I followed the instructions from ifixit, took out the main logic board which looked fine. The guy at the apple store suggested the power input board might be kaput so I took that out too, and lo, there was all the crap under it and the board was completely nasty, oxidized, schmutzed-up. You could see where the liquid was, probably shorted in there or something. I'll clean it all out before reassembling. They had replacements for $90 so ordered one, will see if that makes it go again. Whole teardown was like 2hr, the instructions are extremely good, and worth paying them for the part. Lots of extremely fiddly little bits in there, I might need to get some tiny fingers to put it back together though. Great web site. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Economics (was Sulfur good?)
I fully believe as Heinlein did in that story. If you serve, you were willing to put your life on the line, so you deserve the rights and privileges. I think it also should entail all the socialist goodies such as health care, pensions, education, and any other goodies to show appreciation. clay On Jan 10, 2010, at 4:26 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Scott Ritchey wrote: I'd be inclined to limit voting to taxpayers who are also veterans. Ever read Robert Heinlein's Starship Troopers? A citizen was somebody who had served in the military, and only citizens could vote. There were no limits on who could serve in the military, for denying them because of age, health, or gender would be denying them the rights of citizenship. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Military as welfare.
Gary: Don't Immanentize the eschaton! In the not-quite-perfect world in which I reside, Our military is an important protection against the dangers of the real world. Our volunteer military will not accept those who do not have normal or better intelligence. No doubt our country's leaders do not always wield the power of our military in an intelligent and productive manner; but we are a lot better off with them than we would be without them. One of my sons just completed USCG basic training. Even after winnowing the applicants with testing, background checks and physical exams; nearly 10% of the class couldn't cut it. I have worked closely with our local USCG unit in Portland OR, and was seconded to that unit for 90 days a few years ago. I had the privilege of working with some of the most dedicated and competent individuals I have ever met. Browse the net and take a look at the work of some of the USCG SAR and rescue swimmer units (to take two examples out of thousands) and tell me again that you think these guardian-heroes are retarded kids in the welfare line. Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 6:36 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Military as welfare. our modern volunteer standing army is just another welfare line. it is jsut another place to house those retarded kids we are systematically producing in droves. on this list the american imperialism and war profiteering is what makes me free. i disagree not only that this could possibly make us free but also with the notion that this is any longer a particularly free country. as long as the american people continue to capitulate to tyranny, we will become less and less free. no number of innocent iraqis tortured or murdered for fun and profit is going to change that. only active mass resistance to the civil authorities can change that, not mass murder. now i will be encouraged to move to albania for dissent. only thing is that this is my country too even if pitiful fools try to make it into a totalitarian plutocracy and think they are doing god's work in the process. On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: LarryT wrote: Ditto - I'm not moderator here, but c'mon guys. You can't just read the party line. Can the party line ever be wrong or bad? If so, shouldn't we hear about it or reason further? I have no real opinion about the issue, but I think that there could be some rationale that could be elucidating to discuss, if it were not so inflammatory. While we may not like to hear the dialog, these types of thoughts are not expressed from a mind with a vacuum inside, but from a mind with a reason - I mean, it is known that there are plenty of veterans here, hence, that type of rhetoric does not come without forethought, really. If that type of rhetoric does come without forethought, then we agree, there is a mind with a vacuum inside. Perhaps we could listen prior to our flame throwers? We all have our reasons, don't we? Let's shoot the redcoats, not the army of the republic. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- save 5% on our already low, low prices. use coupon code DAVE at checkout. www. BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Military as welfare.
Well said! but it is not just the USCG. It is all branches. Gary: Don't Immanentize the eschaton! In the not-quite-perfect world in which I reside, Our military is an important protection against the dangers of the real world. Our volunteer military will not accept those who do not have normal or better intelligence. No doubt our country's leaders do not always wield the power of our military in an intelligent and productive manner; but we are a lot better off with them than we would be without them. One of my sons just completed USCG basic training. Even after winnowing the applicants with testing, background checks and physical exams; nearly 10% of the class couldn't cut it. I have worked closely with our local USCG unit in Portland OR, and was seconded to that unit for 90 days a few years ago. I had the privilege of working with some of the most dedicated and competent individuals I have ever met. Browse the net and take a look at the work of some of the USCG SAR and rescue swimmer units (to take two examples out of thousands) and tell me again that you think these guardian-heroes are retarded kids in the welfare line. Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 6:36 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Military as welfare. our modern volunteer standing army is just another welfare line. it is jsut another place to house those retarded kids we are systematically producing in droves. on this list the american imperialism and war profiteering is what makes me free. i disagree not only that this could possibly make us free but also with the notion that this is any longer a particularly free country. as long as the american people continue to capitulate to tyranny, we will become less and less free. no number of innocent iraqis tortured or murdered for fun and profit is going to change that. only active mass resistance to the civil authorities can change that, not mass murder. now i will be encouraged to move to albania for dissent. only thing is that this is my country too even if pitiful fools try to make it into a totalitarian plutocracy and think they are doing god's work in the process. On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: LarryT wrote: Ditto - I'm not moderator here, but c'mon guys. You can't just read the party line. Can the party line ever be wrong or bad? If so, shouldn't we hear about it or reason further? I have no real opinion about the issue, but I think that there could be some rationale that could be elucidating to discuss, if it were not so inflammatory. While we may not like to hear the dialog, these types of thoughts are not expressed from a mind with a vacuum inside, but from a mind with a reason - I mean, it is known that there are plenty of veterans here, hence, that type of rhetoric does not come without forethought, really. If that type of rhetoric does come without forethought, then we agree, there is a mind with a vacuum inside. Perhaps we could listen prior to our flame throwers? We all have our reasons, don't we? Let's shoot the redcoats, not the army of the republic. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- save 5% on our already low, low prices. use coupon code DAVE at checkout. www. BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Music Anybody?
http://www.washington.edu/facilities/transportation/movingandsurplus/inventory/item/harpsichord No interest or affiliation. Bound to be somebody needs this clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 2009 Edwards AFB open house
http://home.comcast.net/~bzee1a/Edwards09/Edwards09.html Be sure to click on the audio links. In stereo. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Music Anybody?
On Sun, 10 Jan 2010 20:27:18 -0800 Redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote: http://www.washington.edu/facilities/transportation/movingandsurplus/inventory/item/harpsichord No interest or affiliation. Bound to be somebody needs this It's a beauty, all right. Unfortunately, we have no place to put it. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] new ticket
I just found out that the old paper pilots license will become obsolete in March - you have to apply for a replacement license to get the new valid license ---... You have cut it pretty close since I got mine in January 2006. What I don't like is that the issue date is just that and not the date of my first logged flight. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Ozone from small motors
Can someone tell me if a capacitor across the leads to the brushes of a small electric motor will reduce or eliminate ozone production by the sparking of the brushes? Is the size of the capacitor critical? I seem to remember that arrangement was used to prolong the life of brushes in some electric motors years ago. I have a big, powerful Kitchen Aid blender that started producing a lot of ozone after being used every day for about six months. My daughter had one that was still under warrantee like mine, but a friend of hers said it cost her about $40 by the time she had sent it in to the company when it developed a problem, so my daughter junked hers and got a different make. Except for the ozone, this is a good heavy duty blender for my purposes. The next step up would probably be a blender from a restaurant supply place and those would probably be quite expensive. Thanks, Gerry Archer '83 300D and 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Military as welfare.
this is exactly my point. it is not all volunteers in all branches. some are legitimate military personnel. many are welfare collectors propping up the war business. you can't supply soldiers without them being their. you can't justify their being there without wars and dangers. if we cut them loose, the world would be a safer place. you honestly feared being invaded and occupied by iraq? what threat did they pose to you? if there was a legitimate threat, why were you told a bunch of lies to justify the war rather than being told the real threat to you and your country? individual and collective heroism does exist, but let's not let this confuse us as to what the massive standing army is really about. it is about rich guys getting richer it is about parking kids too dumb even for our colleges as we have nothing constructive for them to do it is about scaring the beegezuz out of anyone thinking about no longer taking dollars for oil the war machine does not exist to make you me or anyone else free. it does not exist to protect anyone. it contains heroes, but is not about them. your son may just be a hero. his commitment may save lives. i salute him. and i suggest to you that after he has spent a year or so being a hero, you ask him if there is not truth to what i'm saying about the war machine. he will have seen it first hand and he will admit it to you, as has nearly every serious soldier, sailor or marine i have ever spoken to. my kid's shrink grew up on a marine base around wilmington, NC during the vietnam war. he says they universally knew that the entire war and the entire military industrial complex was a load of crap selling a bill of goods to the incredibly stupid and naive. like old kind solomon said, man, ain't nuthin new under the son. the only thing the changes are the carneys and the marks On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 11:21 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Well said! but it is not just the USCG. It is all branches. Gary: Don't Immanentize the eschaton! In the not-quite-perfect world in which I reside, Our military is an important protection against the dangers of the real world. Our volunteer military will not accept those who do not have normal or better intelligence. No doubt our country's leaders do not always wield the power of our military in an intelligent and productive manner; but we are a lot better off with them than we would be without them. One of my sons just completed USCG basic training. Even after winnowing the applicants with testing, background checks and physical exams; nearly 10% of the class couldn't cut it. I have worked closely with our local USCG unit in Portland OR, and was seconded to that unit for 90 days a few years ago. I had the privilege of working with some of the most dedicated and competent individuals I have ever met. Browse the net and take a look at the work of some of the USCG SAR and rescue swimmer units (to take two examples out of thousands) and tell me again that you think these guardian-heroes are retarded kids in the welfare line. Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com ] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 6:36 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Military as welfare. our modern volunteer standing army is just another welfare line. it is jsut another place to house those retarded kids we are systematically producing in droves. on this list the american imperialism and war profiteering is what makes me free. i disagree not only that this could possibly make us free but also with the notion that this is any longer a particularly free country. as long as the american people continue to capitulate to tyranny, we will become less and less free. no number of innocent iraqis tortured or murdered for fun and profit is going to change that. only active mass resistance to the civil authorities can change that, not mass murder. now i will be encouraged to move to albania for dissent. only thing is that this is my country too even if pitiful fools try to make it into a totalitarian plutocracy and think they are doing god's work in the process. On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: LarryT wrote: Ditto - I'm not moderator here, but c'mon guys. You can't just read the party line. Can the party line ever be wrong or bad? If so, shouldn't we hear about it or reason further? I have no real opinion about the issue, but I think that there could be some rationale that could be elucidating to discuss, if it were not so inflammatory. While we may not like to hear the dialog, these types of thoughts are not expressed from a mind with a vacuum inside, but from a mind with a reason - I mean, it is known that there are plenty of veterans here, hence, that type of rhetoric does not come without
Re: [MBZ] OT MacBook teardown
i'm really sad at how obsolete the pismos have become. i really like those machines in every way. On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote: Yeah, I've used them before, too. Got a Powerbook G4 on the way that needs a new screen, so I'll be using them again. I wish more of them were like the Pismo, though -- most of what you needed to change was easy -- you could change the screen without removing the bottom cover, and a new hard drive was a 15 min job, unlike the later ones where you have to pretty much completely disassemble it to unhook the blasted airport antenna! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- save 5% on our already low, low prices. use coupon code DAVE at checkout. www. BuyEUROparts.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
