Re: [MBZ] I used Shoe Goo tonight...

2011-09-22 Thread John Reames
I used weatherstrip adhesive to repair a walking boot the heathen b-- was 
losing it's sole!

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On Sep 21, 2011, at 21:49, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 ... to repair a shoe.
 
 Allan
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 1979 300SD
 
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Re: [MBZ] I used Shoe Goo tonight...

2011-09-22 Thread Rich Thomas
I used Shoe Goo to repair the soles on some hiking boots.  Took them on 
vacation, got about 100yd down the trail and both soles peeled off.  
Went the rest of the way just walking on the pads.  Fun.


--R

On 9/22/11 5:49 AM, John Reames wrote:

I used weatherstrip adhesive to repair a walking boot the heathen b-- was 
losing it's sole!

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Mobile: +14437915905

On Sep 21, 2011, at 21:49, Allan Streibstr...@cs.indiana.edu  wrote:


... to repair a shoe.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] 0

2011-09-22 Thread Max Dillon
Ok, thanks Wilton.

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WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

Slow for me, too. Welcome aboard.

Wilton

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Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 0


 This is the first list email I've received all afternoon/evening. Is the 
 list traffic that slow, or do I have a problem on my end?

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Re: [MBZ] 0

2011-09-22 Thread Max Dillon
I may need to test Infiniti alternator with your O-scope. Do you have a scan 
tool?

Max
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Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

Could be both.

--R

On 9/21/11 9:54 PM, Max Dillon wrote:
 This is the first list email I've received all afternoon/evening. Is the list 
 traffic that slow, or do I have a problem on my end?

 Max

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Re: [MBZ] I used Shoe Goo tonight...

2011-09-22 Thread Jim Cathey

... to repair a shoe.


Heresy!

I just used a dot of it to glue a chad of white paper over
that wretched @#$%^ laser-bright blue power LED on my wife's
phone charger.  (She has just broken it for the third time.
I also soldered a new connector on the end, from the same
phone's non-functional house charger.)  I hate blue LED's,
and I particularly hate overbright ones.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] I used Shoe Goo tonight...

2011-09-22 Thread Dan Penoff
You would like the green ones on the NIC ports of my Xserve RAID controllers. 
They are like high beam Xenon lamps.

I swear you can read from their light ten feet away in a dark room.

Dan

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On Sep 22, 2011, at 9:42 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote:

 ... to repair a shoe.
 
 Heresy!
 
 I just used a dot of it to glue a chad of white paper over
 that wretched @#$%^ laser-bright blue power LED on my wife's
 phone charger.  (She has just broken it for the third time.
 I also soldered a new connector on the end, from the same
 phone's non-functional house charger.)  I hate blue LED's,
 and I particularly hate overbright ones.
 
 -- Jim
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] I used Shoe Goo tonight...

2011-09-22 Thread Michael Canfield
I do the same thing on car chargers.  That ridiculous, kids will buy me cuz
I make the car look blue inside, blue light is so bright it gives me
headaches and makes driving a bit more dangerous from the glare on the
windshield.

Mike
On Sep 22, 2011 9:41 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote:
 ... to repair a shoe.

 Heresy!

 I just used a dot of it to glue a chad of white paper over
 that wretched @#$%^ laser-bright blue power LED on my wife's
 phone charger. (She has just broken it for the third time.
 I also soldered a new connector on the end, from the same
 phone's non-functional house charger.) I hate blue LED's,
 and I particularly hate overbright ones.

 -- Jim



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[MBZ] scan tool

2011-09-22 Thread Rich Thomas
I was going to buy a USB scan tool http://www.obdtester.com/obdtester  
to get my truck sorted out, but ended up taking it to the garage and 
they scanned it, reset the distributor, and got it sorted out for less 
than the scan tool costs.  I don't think a scope would do what you need, 
the computer keeps track of what the sensors and such are doing, and the 
scan tool will report on that in real time so you can twiddle with it.  
Probably the way to go.  Not sure what a scope would do with the 
alternator, you can take it to the FLAPS and let them test it easy 
enough with their tool.  The scan tool might track its behavior too?


--R

On 9/22/11 8:40 AM, Max Dillon wrote:

I may need to test Infiniti alternator with your O-scope. Do you have a scan 
tool?

Max


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Re: [MBZ] I used Shoe Goo tonight...

2011-09-22 Thread Allan Streib
On Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:42 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net 
wrote:

 I hate blue LED's, and I particularly hate overbright ones.

The other night I passed a state trooper who had a car pulled over.  The
red and blue LED lights they are using now are so bright they are nearly
blinding at night and the blinking pattern is so chaotic it is intensely
distracting.  There's a need for visibility, no argument, but I think
they've gone over the top.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] I used Shoe Goo tonight...

2011-09-22 Thread Mitch Haley

Allan Streib wrote:

On Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:42 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net 
wrote:


I hate blue LED's, and I particularly hate overbright ones.


The other night I passed a state trooper who had a car pulled over.  The
red and blue LED lights they are using now are so bright they are nearly
blinding at night and the blinking pattern is so chaotic it is intensely
distracting.  There's a need for visibility, no argument, but I think
they've gone over the top.


After a few dozen mesmerized drunks plow into the backs of stopped patrol cars, 
the highway patrol might catch on.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] I used Shoe Goo tonight...

2011-09-22 Thread Randy Bennell

On 22/09/2011 10:10 AM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Allan Streib wrote:
On Thursday, September 22, 2011 6:42 AM, Jim Cathey 
j...@windwireless.net wrote:



I hate blue LED's, and I particularly hate overbright ones.


The other night I passed a state trooper who had a car pulled over.  The
red and blue LED lights they are using now are so bright they are nearly
blinding at night and the blinking pattern is so chaotic it is intensely
distracting.  There's a need for visibility, no argument, but I think
they've gone over the top.


After a few dozen mesmerized drunks plow into the backs of stopped 
patrol cars, the highway patrol might catch on.


Mitch.

I couldn't agree more. It also seems even worse when it is really dark 
out. I guess one's eyes adapt to the dark and then the intense light 
just makes it that much worse.


I was coming back from the lake once last summer and there was a police 
cruiser on the shoulder with the strobe lights going and it darned near 
blinded me.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] I used Shoe Goo tonight...

2011-09-22 Thread Randy Bennell

On 22/09/2011 8:55 AM, Michael Canfield wrote:

I do the same thing on car chargers.  That ridiculous, kids will buy me cuz
I make the car look blue inside, blue light is so bright it gives me
headaches and makes driving a bit more dangerous from the glare on the
windshield.

Mike
On Sep 22, 2011 9:41 AM, Jim Catheyj...@windwireless.net  wrote:

... to repair a shoe.

Heresy!

I just used a dot of it to glue a chad of white paper over
that wretched @#$%^ laser-bright blue power LED on my wife's
phone charger. (She has just broken it for the third time.
I also soldered a new connector on the end, from the same
phone's non-functional house charger.) I hate blue LED's,
and I particularly hate overbright ones.

-- Jim



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There used to be little blue lights sold that one was to install on the 
a pillar. They were supposed to make it easier on the eyes when 
meeting oncoming traffic at night.
Never had one. Assume it really did not work all that well since they 
don't appear to be commonly advertised anymore.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] OT -- All Things Considered

2011-09-22 Thread Randy Bennell

On 21/09/2011 10:04 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:
A buddy of mine was on ATC this evening, commenting on some drug or 
something, whatever the stuff is they said was in red wine that would 
increase your longevity.  Turns out it's BS, like I needed that as a 
reason to drink red wine anyway.


--R

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Just wait a bit. There will be another study along shortly to say it is 
good for you again.


Randy

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[MBZ] Police LED strobes (was: Re: I used Shoe Goo tonight...)

2011-09-22 Thread Allan Streib
On Thursday, September 22, 2011 10:52 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca 
wrote:

 I was coming back from the lake once last summer and there was a police 
 cruiser on the shoulder with the strobe lights going and it darned near 
 blinded me.

They really are very close to being dazzlers IMO.

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Dazzler_(weapon)

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Police LED strobes

2011-09-22 Thread Rich Thomas
Interesting points here -- the lights actually draw your attention and 
many people if not careful will actually drive into them.  That has been 
a problem for some time with the blinky blue/red lights.  Esp if drunk 
or otherwise altered.


--R

On 9/22/11 11:58 AM, Allan Streib wrote:

On Thursday, September 22, 2011 10:52 AM, Randy Bennellrbenn...@bennell.ca  
wrote:


I was coming back from the lake once last summer and there was a police
cruiser on the shoulder with the strobe lights going and it darned near
blinded me.

They really are very close to being dazzlers IMO.

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Dazzler_(weapon)

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] scan tool

2011-09-22 Thread Max Dillon
Apparently Infiniti alternator has six diodes and known weakness in the ECU to 
dirty power. Alternator can still provide sufficient power if a diode or two 
fails, and keep the battery charged but it is too dirty and the ECU is not 
happy. An oscilloscope would be useful to see how dirty it is. Dirty power 
won't cause a specific code, but false codes.

Scan tool would be to resolve other issues.

Max
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Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

I was going to buy a USB scan tool http://www.obdtester.com/obdtester 
to get my truck sorted out, but ended up taking it to the garage and 
they scanned it, reset the distributor, and got it sorted out for less 
than the scan tool costs. I don't think a scope would do what you need, 
the computer keeps track of what the sensors and such are doing, and the 
scan tool will report on that in real time so you can twiddle with it. 
Probably the way to go. Not sure what a scope would do with the 
alternator, you can take it to the FLAPS and let them test it easy 
enough with their tool. The scan tool might track its behavior too?

--R

On 9/22/11 8:40 AM, Max Dillon wrote:
 I may need to test Infiniti alternator with your O-scope. Do you have a scan 
 tool?

 Max

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[MBZ] Antenna (1992 W140) problem

2011-09-22 Thread W140
Right after I got some work done on the front of the car (engine compartment) I 
drove off and the antenna wouldn’t go up or down.  I checked all the fuses and 
looked inside the antenna and all appears well, Antenna will go up and down 
when I rotate the gearing so I can’t see any problems there. Any suggestions?  
I’m not sure how much voltage the motor takes so I don’t want to apply 12v 
direct to it. Is it a 12v motor? Can I apply 12v directly to it and see if it 
will work?  Anything in the engine compartment the mechanic can screw up by 
accident?   Hey, I’m open to any suggestions.  If all else fails is there any 
place the rebuilds or exchanges them?
Oh yes, Radio, CD, tape work fine, just the antenna.
I can be reached at  w...@juno.com if you have any ideas.
Thanks,
Walt Lasher
Seattle
1992 w140  300SD

 

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Re: [MBZ] Antenna (1992 W140) problem

2011-09-22 Thread John Freer
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 10:29 AM, W140 w...@juno.com wrote:
 Right after I got some work done on the front of the car (engine compartment) 
 I drove off and the antenna wouldn’t go up or down.  I checked all the fuses 
 and looked inside the antenna and all appears well, Antenna will go up and 
 down when I rotate the gearing so I can’t see any problems there. Any 
 suggestions?  I’m not sure how much voltage the motor takes so I don’t want 
 to apply 12v direct to it. Is it a 12v motor? Can I apply 12v directly to it 
 and see if it will work?  Anything in the engine compartment the mechanic can 
 screw up by accident?   Hey, I’m open to any suggestions.  If all else fails 
 is there any place the rebuilds or exchanges them?
 Oh yes, Radio, CD, tape work fine, just the antenna.
 I can be reached at  w...@juno.com if you have any ideas.
 Thanks,
 Walt Lasher
 Seattle
 1992 w140  300SD

Someone played with the switch on the dash?

John

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[MBZ] Subject: Re: I used Shoe Goo tonight...

2011-09-22 Thread RDeafBoy
I fixed my brother's brand new sandals [with the sole peeling away]  with 
Through The Roof caulk adhesive.  It's made by Sashco.com who also  makes 
Lexel  I used Lexel 5 years ago to seal the cracked rubber boots on  my 
rear CVJ boots. However I just bought new axles to take of that problem.  
Anyway I used  TTR  to seal some roof leaks at the shore house.   Then I used 
gallon cans to cover the 84 year old porous brick chimney that was  leaking 
into the house.  It even withstood Hurricane Irene !!  This  stuff works !! 
It's only been out for a couple years so not many people are  aware of it.  
It is CLEAR just like Lexel. Lexel is used for airplane  windshield adhesive. 
I use both for fix-it items.
 
Bob 
1983 240D
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Re: [MBZ] Antenna (1992 W140) problem

2011-09-22 Thread WILTON
Is the antenna rocker switch on (usually) upper center console in UP 
position?  Is antenna grnd OK?  If so, try 12V to motor.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: W140 w...@juno.com

To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 1:29 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Antenna (1992 W140) problem


Right after I got some work done on the front of the car (engine 
compartment) I drove off and the antenna wouldn’t go up or down.  I checked 
all the fuses and looked inside the antenna and all appears well, Antenna 
will go up and down when I rotate the gearing so I can’t see any problems 
there. Any suggestions?  I’m not sure how much voltage the motor takes so I 
don’t want to apply 12v direct to it. Is it a 12v motor? Can I apply 12v 
directly to it and see if it will work?  Anything in the engine compartment 
the mechanic can screw up by accident?   Hey, I’m open to any suggestions. 
If all else fails is there any place the rebuilds or exchanges them?

Oh yes, Radio, CD, tape work fine, just the antenna.
I can be reached at  w...@juno.com if you have any ideas.
Thanks,
Walt Lasher
Seattle
1992 w140  300SD



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[MBZ] Hydropneumatic air cells (accumulators) gone bad?

2011-09-22 Thread andrew strasfogel
So I've been riding around on the restored SLS suspension in my W123 1985
300TD.  While it's a huge improvement over the ride on the conventional rear
shocks that I had removed and discarded, I do notice some jarring when
driving over bumps.  The air cells are probably original with the car,
although they were disconnected from the SLS and not in use between 1995 and
2011.  I am wondering whether it would improve the ride if I installed new
accumulators.  Or to put it another way, what are the symptoms of air cells
gone bad?  Is this a sudden onset or a gradual process as the leak out?

Thanks to all in advance.

Andrew
1983 and 1985  300TD
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Re: [MBZ] Hydropneumatic air cells (accumulators) gone bad?

2011-09-22 Thread dave walton
We recently bought a 98 S500 with clear fluid and good suspension. A
month later the fluid was black and the rear end was bottoming out. I
knew for sure something was wrong when I noticed the headlight beams
bouncing like crazy when hitting minor (for Ohio) bumps. I suspect
that the failure of one puts enough additional stress on the other to
kill it good and quick. New ones from Rusty fixed it right up. That is
the second car I've replaced them on. In both cases the darkening of
the hydraulic fluid was dramatic. You will also notice the fluid level
going down as the gas in the accumulators is displaced with fluid.

-Dave Walton


On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 2:27 PM, andrew strasfogel
astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:
 So I've been riding around on the restored SLS suspension in my W123 1985
 300TD.  While it's a huge improvement over the ride on the conventional rear
 shocks that I had removed and discarded, I do notice some jarring when
 driving over bumps.  The air cells are probably original with the car,
 although they were disconnected from the SLS and not in use between 1995 and
 2011.  I am wondering whether it would improve the ride if I installed new
 accumulators.  Or to put it another way, what are the symptoms of air cells
 gone bad?  Is this a sudden onset or a gradual process as the leak out?

 Thanks to all in advance.

 Andrew
 1983 and 1985  300TD
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Re: [MBZ] Not shoe goo

2011-09-22 Thread RELNGSON
 ...The other night I passed a state trooper who had a car pulled over.  
 The
 red and blue LED lights they are using now are so bright they are nearly
 blinding at night and the blinking pattern is so chaotic it is intensely
 distracting.  There's a need for visibility, no argument, but I think
 they've gone over the top...
 
Why don't you wander over to Youtube and eyeball all the videos of police 
cars being rearended by some doofus while stopped on the side of the 
interstate citing some violater.

I'll let you know if you miss any shoe goo messages.

RLE

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Re: [MBZ] Not shoe goo

2011-09-22 Thread Mitch Haley

relng...@aol.com wrote:

Why don't you wander over to Youtube and eyeball all the videos of police 
cars being rearended by some doofus while stopped on the side of the 
interstate citing some violater.


And most of the time, it's the work of a drunk who was drawn to flashing lights 
like a moth to a candle. I don't think anybody except Kraley is in danger of 
hitting a cop car because he didn't see it.


Making the lights so bright that the people trying to drive around the cop car 
can't see where they are going does not improve the situation.


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Re: [MBZ] Not shoe goo

2011-09-22 Thread Rich Thomas

A bit late to the party.

--R

On 9/22/11 3:35 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:
...The other night I passed a state trooper who had a car pulled over. 
The

red and blue LED lights they are using now are so bright they are nearly
blinding at night and the blinking pattern is so chaotic it is intensely
distracting.  There's a need for visibility, no argument, but I think
they've gone over the top...


Why don't you wander over to Youtube and eyeball all the videos of police
cars being rearended by some doofus while stopped on the side of the
interstate citing some violater.

I'll let you know if you miss any shoe goo messages.

RLE

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Re: [MBZ] I used Shoe Goo tonight...

2011-09-22 Thread Dieselhead


The other night I passed a state trooper who had a car pulled over.  The
red and blue LED lights they are using now are so bright they are nearly
blinding at night and the blinking pattern is so chaotic it is intensely
distracting.  There's a need for visibility, no argument, but I think
they've gone over the top.


After a few dozen mesmerized drunks plow into the backs of stopped 
patrol cars, the highway patrol might catch on.



Mitch.

Doubtful.  They are not the brightest bulbs in the pack.


There is a story in the Drivers ed circuits about calling attention 
to something on the side of the road.


DE instructor:  Watch out for the police car on the shoulder.
Student proceeds to run into the police car because attention was 
diverted form the road to the car, and we tend to go where our eyes 
are looking


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Re: [MBZ] Not shoe goo

2011-09-22 Thread Randy Bennell

On 22/09/2011 2:41 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

relng...@aol.com wrote:

Why don't you wander over to Youtube and eyeball all the videos of 
police cars being rearended by some doofus while stopped on the side 
of the interstate citing some violater.


And most of the time, it's the work of a drunk who was drawn to 
flashing lights like a moth to a candle. I don't think anybody except 
Kraley is in danger of hitting a cop car because he didn't see it.


Making the lights so bright that the people trying to drive around the 
cop car can't see where they are going does not improve the situation.


Maybe, we should just put big concrete lumps on the side of the road 
with bright lights on them. Solve the impaired driver problem in no time.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] I used Shoe Goo tonight...

2011-09-22 Thread Randy Bennell




There is a story in the Drivers ed circuits about calling attention to 
something on the side of the road.


DE instructor:  Watch out for the police car on the shoulder.
Student proceeds to run into the police car because attention was 
diverted form the road to the car, and we tend to go where our eyes 
are looking


That is what they teach in motorcycle rider training. If you look 
directly at a pothole or such, it is difficult not to run right over it.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Hydropneumatic air cells (accumulators) gone bad?

2011-09-22 Thread Dieselhead
Andrew, your description is exactly that of collapsed spheres.  Get 
them replaced IMMEDIATELY, because every bump is doing damage to the 
system.  It may be nothing that will show soon, but it will shorten 
the life.



So I've been riding around on the restored SLS suspension in my W123 1985
300TD.  While it's a huge improvement over the ride on the conventional rear
shocks that I had removed and discarded, I do notice some jarring when
driving over bumps.  The air cells are probably original with the car,
although they were disconnected from the SLS and not in use between 1995 and
2011.  I am wondering whether it would improve the ride if I installed new
accumulators.  Or to put it another way, what are the symptoms of air cells
gone bad?  Is this a sudden onset or a gradual process as the leak out?

Thanks to all in advance.

Andrew
1983 and 1985  300TD
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Re: [MBZ] I used Shoe Goo tonight...

2011-09-22 Thread WILTON
Maybe, that's what SWMBO does; in passenger seat, I'll see a pothole 
quarter of a mile away and think, Surely she sees it; I'll try not to say 
anything - a little pressure left or right on the steering wheel, and she'll 
miss it.  You guessed it - she'll drive straight through the middle of it.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I used Shoe Goo tonight...






There is a story in the Drivers ed circuits about calling attention to 
something on the side of the road.


DE instructor:  Watch out for the police car on the shoulder.
Student proceeds to run into the police car because attention was 
diverted form the road to the car, and we tend to go where our eyes are 
looking


That is what they teach in motorcycle rider training. If you look directly 
at a pothole or such, it is difficult not to run right over it.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] I used Shoe Goo tonight...

2011-09-22 Thread Curt Raymond
The radio in my 190D is like that, it was one of the complaints on Amazon and I 
should have paid better attention. I've installed a little flap of cloth over 
it until I have time to investigate ways to cut down the brightness. I think 
I'll end up painting over many of the lit bits. The one that is particularly 
annoying is a ring around the volume knob.

-Curt

Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 09:55:49 -0400
From: Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I used Shoe Goo tonight...
Message-ID:
CALHJ_1CcZ9yD=hontyiexfteyn13nr9wfryxrakfdk6odwu...@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

I do the same thing on car chargers.  That ridiculous, kids will buy me cuz
I make the car look blue inside, blue light is so bright it gives me
headaches and makes driving a bit more dangerous from the glare on the
windshield.

Mike
On Sep 22, 2011 9:41 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote:
 ... to repair a shoe.

 Heresy!

 I just used a dot of it to glue a chad of white paper over
 that wretched @#$%^ laser-bright blue power LED on my wife's
 phone charger. (She has just broken it for the third time.
 I also soldered a new connector on the end, from the same
 phone's non-functional house charger.) I hate blue LED's,
 and I particularly hate overbright ones.

 -- Jim

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Re: [MBZ] take it, walk away, or run

2011-09-22 Thread Hendrik Fay
The styling of those is a bit boring IMHO but for something different 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-500-Series-500-SEC-1983-Mercedes-Benz-500SEC-GULLWING-SGS-Styling-500-SEC-/120776844403?pt=US_Cars_Truckshash=item1c1edc6473#v4-46

Wonder what the MB part number is on the sticks holding up the 'wings'?

Hendrik
who is not a style guru

clay monroe wrote:

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/2601763854.html

Anybody have experience with the slk?  Title is not an issue to me.  Gump was 
never going to be perfect, so I am ok with a car with minor issues.




clay 

  



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Re: [MBZ] Hydropneumatic air cells (accumulators) gone bad?

2011-09-22 Thread andrew strasfogel
10 - 4 and thanks.

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 Andrew, your description is exactly that of collapsed spheres.  Get them
 replaced IMMEDIATELY, because every bump is doing damage to the system.  It
 may be nothing that will show soon, but it will shorten the life.

   So I've been riding around on the restored SLS suspension in my W123
 1985
 300TD.  While it's a huge improvement over the ride on the conventional
 rear
 shocks that I had removed and discarded, I do notice some jarring when
 driving over bumps.  The air cells are probably original with the car,
 although they were disconnected from the SLS and not in use between 1995
 and
 2011.  I am wondering whether it would improve the ride if I installed new
 accumulators.  Or to put it another way, what are the symptoms of air
 cells
 gone bad?  Is this a sudden onset or a gradual process as the leak out?

 Thanks to all in advance.

 Andrew
 1983 and 1985  300TD
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Re: [MBZ] take it, walk away, or run

2011-09-22 Thread Mitch Haley

Hendrik  Fay wrote:
The styling of those is a bit boring IMHO but for something different 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-500-Series-500-SEC-1983-Mercedes-Benz-500SEC-GULLWING-SGS-Styling-500-SEC-/120776844403?pt=US_Cars_Truckshash=item1c1edc6473#v4-46 


Maybe for $3k I'd think about it.
To drive it home, I'd make the seller open the door for me. When I needed to get 
out, I'd run the window down and play Dukes of Hazzard.


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Re: [MBZ] take it, walk away, or run

2011-09-22 Thread G Mann
One look convinces me Mercedes made the right decision NOT to go to
production.  It takes a otherwise useful and beautiful car and converts it
into an useless monster. Suddenly, parking and entrance/egress become  an
issue.  If someone parks to close, you are locked out till they move. Water
leaks. I'm betting the bank on that. Same for air leak and noise.

No thanks,  I'll take the standard model.

Grant...

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 Hendrik  Fay wrote:

 The styling of those is a bit boring IMHO but for something different
 http://cgi.ebay.com/**ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-500-**
 Series-500-SEC-1983-Mercedes-**Benz-500SEC-GULLWING-SGS-**
 Styling-500-SEC-/120776844403?**pt=US_Cars_Truckshash=**
 item1c1edc6473#v4-46http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-500-Series-500-SEC-1983-Mercedes-Benz-500SEC-GULLWING-SGS-Styling-500-SEC-/120776844403?pt=US_Cars_Truckshash=item1c1edc6473#v4-46


 Maybe for $3k I'd think about it.
 To drive it home, I'd make the seller open the door for me. When I needed
 to get out, I'd run the window down and play Dukes of Hazzard.


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Re: [MBZ] I used Shoe Goo tonight...

2011-09-22 Thread LWB250
Motorcycle training teaches you to pick an end point, that is, the spot where 
you want to end up at, and focus on that.  It is applied primarily as a means 
to make turns and not under or over steer, as new riders are oft to do.

If you ride, or for that matter, drive, try it some time.  It's amazingly 
simple and works quite well.

Dan



From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I used Shoe Goo tonight...


 
 There is a story in the Drivers ed circuits about calling attention to 
 something on the side of the road.
 
 DE instructor:  Watch out for the police car on the shoulder.
 Student proceeds to run into the police car because attention was diverted 
 form the road to the car, and we tend to go where our eyes are looking
 
That is what they teach in motorcycle rider training. If you look directly at a 
pothole or such, it is difficult not to run right over it.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] did this work?

2011-09-22 Thread Hendrik Fay
Well I disagree to an extent, if you are gonna pump money into a 109 you 
really want the M116 3.5L engine. MB produced this engine for a long 
time and it should be easy enough to get a hold of one, if needed.
Given the state of the car and the engine in it, I would walk away, 
unless you got it for 500.


Hendrik

Jaime Kopchinski wrote:

The M130 makes this a less risky car, since you can get a good engine pretty
easily if you need one.  Even a rebuild isn't unreasonable.

Air suspension is air suspension, but its a W109 and W112.  Parts are not
horrible in price, and once its done, its fixed for a long time.

If the car falls overnight, thats pretty bad.

Jaime

  



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Re: [MBZ] I used Shoe Goo tonight...

2011-09-22 Thread Allan Streib
LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com writes:

 Motorcycle training teaches you to pick an end point, that is, the
 spot where you want to end up at, and focus on that.  It is applied
 primarily as a means to make turns and not under or over steer, as new
 riders are oft to do.

 If you ride, or for that matter, drive, try it some time.  It's
 amazingly simple and works quite well.

Quite true.  If I am driving a curvy road and pick end points on each
curve I end up going through the curves much more smoothly than if I try
to track the curve more closely.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D
1979 300SD

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Re: [MBZ] did this work?

2011-09-22 Thread Hendrik Fay
Speaking of the 3.5, as a reference point 
http://www.tradingpost.com.au/Automotive/Used-Cars/AdNumber=D556901381472?AdOnTop= 
not sure about it's condition or anything but looks a hell of a lot 
better than the lowrider in the desert.


Hendrik

Hendrik  Fay wrote:
Well I disagree to an extent, if you are gonna pump money into a 109 
you really want the M116 3.5L engine. MB produced this engine for a 
long time and it should be easy enough to get a hold of one, if needed.
Given the state of the car and the engine in it, I would walk away, 
unless you got it for 500.


Hendrik

Jaime Kopchinski wrote:
The M130 makes this a less risky car, since you can get a good engine 
pretty

easily if you need one.  Even a rebuild isn't unreasonable.

Air suspension is air suspension, but its a W109 and W112.  Parts are 
not

horrible in price, and once its done, its fixed for a long time.

If the car falls overnight, thats pretty bad.

Jaime

  



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[MBZ] print-your-own drones

2011-09-22 Thread Gerry Archer
Exert light pressure on the radio transmitter's stick and the UAV banks around 
to left or right. Let go and the plane straightens up. Keep your mind focused 
on the flight path; avoid high trees.

Flying with the aid of a sophisticated autopilot has brought astonishing aerial 
skills within the reach of utterly inexperienced ground operators. So, in the 
future, we can all become drone pilots.
 
On a blustery, overcast day, Southampton University researchers were spurring 
their UAVs, or unmanned aerial vehicles, through a succession of test flights 
above a private airfield on the edge of the Wiltshire downs.
Invited to fly a drone, the Guardian reporter managed, under close supervision, 
to send the catapault-launched Sulsa (Southampton University laser sintered 
aircraft) swooping around the skies for minutes without crashing.
Strict Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) regulations, known as CAP 722, require 
that UAVs are kept within vision by ground controllers and must stay below 
controlled UK airspace. Drones are also banned from flying within 150 metres of 
any congested area of a city, town or settlement.

Sulsa is produced by revolutionary 3D printing technology which creates solid 
objects out of cakes of powdered nylon, solidifying designs with laser beams 
according to a programmed blueprint. The machines cost £250,000 or more. 
However, to order the Sulsa drone from a contract printer was only £1,200.

The curved texture of the surface feels like artificial wood, each layer a 10th 
of a millimetre thick. Weighing 3kg and with a top speed of 90mph, it has 
elliptical wings based on those of a second world war Spitfire.

Andy Keane, professor of computational engineering at Southampton, said: If 
you want to do wildlife filming or covert observation, it may be the answer. We 
can also fit mini motorbike silencers, though in a battlefield they may not 
worry so much about sound..snip

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/21/printed-drones-southampton-university
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Re: [MBZ] did this work?

2011-09-22 Thread Bob Rentfro
Indeed. The guy out here is wack. He's called me leaving messages wondering
what I was thinking and reminding me he wasn't going to budge on the price.
What a clown.

Bob R
Who wonders why Hendrick didn't put a comment after his name in the last
posts
On Sep 22, 2011 5:15 PM, Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
 Speaking of the 3.5, as a reference point

http://www.tradingpost.com.au/Automotive/Used-Cars/AdNumber=D556901381472?AdOnTop=
 not sure about it's condition or anything but looks a hell of a lot
 better than the lowrider in the desert.

 Hendrik

 Hendrik  Fay wrote:
 Well I disagree to an extent, if you are gonna pump money into a 109
 you really want the M116 3.5L engine. MB produced this engine for a
 long time and it should be easy enough to get a hold of one, if needed.
 Given the state of the car and the engine in it, I would walk away,
 unless you got it for 500.

 Hendrik

 Jaime Kopchinski wrote:
 The M130 makes this a less risky car, since you can get a good engine
 pretty
 easily if you need one. Even a rebuild isn't unreasonable.

 Air suspension is air suspension, but its a W109 and W112. Parts are
 not
 horrible in price, and once its done, its fixed for a long time.

 If the car falls overnight, thats pretty bad.

 Jaime




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Re: [MBZ] take it, walk away, or run

2011-09-22 Thread Max Dillon
What no thumping sub-woofers? Wheels are too small... 

Max
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Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote:

The styling of those is a bit boring IMHO but for something different 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-500-Series-500-SEC-1983-Mercedes-Benz-500SEC-GULLWING-SGS-Styling-500-SEC-/120776844403?pt=US_Cars_Truckshash=item1c1edc6473#v4-46
Wonder what the MB part number is on the sticks holding up the 'wings'?

Hendrik
who is not a style guru

clay monroe wrote:
 http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/2601763854.html

 Anybody have experience with the slk? Title is not an issue to me. Gump was 
 never going to be perfect, so I am ok with a car with minor issues.




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Re: [MBZ] I used Shoe Goo tonight...

2011-09-22 Thread Jim Cathey
The radio in my 190D is like that, it was one of the complaints on 
Amazon and I should have paid better attention. I've installed a 
little flap of cloth over it until I have time to investigate ways to 
cut down the brightness.


A lot of aftermarket units don't tie the brightness to the dash
light circuit, which would be a good first step.  I had one that
was so bright I opened up the control panel and slipped in a piece
of exposed film leader, which was a nice neutral-density filter
for the LED's.

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Re: [MBZ] Antenna (1992 W140) problem

2011-09-22 Thread Jim Cathey
Is it a 12v motor? Can I apply 12v directly to it and see if it will 
work?


Yes, so long as you disconnect it from its drive circuitry first.

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Re: [MBZ] scan tool

2011-09-22 Thread Craig
On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 13:06:52 -0400 Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net
wrote:

 Apparently Infiniti alternator has six diodes and known weakness in the
 ECU to dirty power. Alternator can still provide sufficient power if a
 diode or two fails, and keep the battery charged but it is too dirty
 and the ECU is not happy. An oscilloscope would be useful to see how
 dirty it is. Dirty power won't cause a specific code, but false codes.
 
 Scan tool would be to resolve other issues.

FLAPS testers can spot bad diodes.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] take it, walk away, or run

2011-09-22 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
 Hendrik  Fay wrote:

 The styling of those is a bit boring IMHO but for something different
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-500-Series-500-SEC-1983-Mercedes-Benz-500SEC-GULLWING-SGS-Styling-500-SEC-/120776844403?pt=US_Cars_Truckshash=item1c1edc6473#v4-46

 Maybe for $3k I'd think about it.
 To drive it home, I'd make the seller open the door for me. When I needed to
 get out, I'd run the window down and play Dukes of Hazzard.


The interior customization is ghastly, but I like the idea of the
doors.  It's certainly an engineering feat well beyond that of the
kits that kids buy to put Countach-style doors on a Civic.

Actually, I'll take an SEC in any configuration.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] not shoe goo

2011-09-22 Thread RELNGSON
 ..A bit late to the party...
 
And what party might that be?

RLE
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] SLK

2011-09-22 Thread RELNGSON
 Anybody have experience with the slk?  Title is not an issue to me...
 
Sorry to say I was unable to get any useful information out of a Phil Smart 
service writer yesterday except that the tops rattle a lot.

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Re: [MBZ] Antenna (1992 W140) problem

2011-09-22 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 10:29 AM, W140 w...@juno.com wrote:
 I can be reached at  w...@juno.com if you have any ideas.

I suspect this means that Walt doesn't actually read the list and
y'all are talking to a brick wall.

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] I used Shoe Goo tonight...

2011-09-22 Thread OK Don
I have a collection of sample books of lighting gells (Colortron?) that
include neutral density filters - cut off bits of them and apply as needed.
You can also use the opposite color on a colored LED that's too bright to
tame it. We have one over the face of an alarm clock that is just too
bright.

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote:

 The radio in my 190D is like that, it was one of the complaints on Amazon
 and I should have paid better attention. I've installed a little flap of
 cloth over it until I have time to investigate ways to cut down the
 brightness.


 A lot of aftermarket units don't tie the brightness to the dash
 light circuit, which would be a good first step.  I had one that
 was so bright I opened up the control panel and slipped in a piece
 of exposed film leader, which was a nice neutral-density filter
 for the LED's.


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Re: [MBZ] scan tool

2011-09-22 Thread OK Don
The MB W124 service manual has o-scope traces of bad alternators showing you
which banks of diodes are bad, etc.

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.netwrote:

 Apparently Infiniti alternator has six diodes and known weakness in the ECU
 to dirty power. Alternator can still provide sufficient power if a diode or
 two fails, and keep the battery charged but it is too dirty and the ECU is
 not happy. An oscilloscope would be useful to see how dirty it is. Dirty
 power won't cause a specific code, but false codes.

 Scan tool would be to resolve other issues.

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Re: [MBZ] scan tool

2011-09-22 Thread Fmiser
 Max Dillon wrote:

 Apparently Infiniti alternator has six diodes and known
 weakness in the ECU to dirty power. Alternator can still
 provide sufficient power if a diode or two fails, and keep the
 battery charged but it is too dirty and the ECU is not happy.
 An oscilloscope would be useful to see how dirty it is. Dirty
 power won't cause a specific code, but false codes.

I have used an oscilloscope a number of times to identify a
failed diode in an alternator.

If you have one - go for it.

If not, it's probably not a good enough reason to get one.

--  Philip

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