[MBZ] Volt vs. Gas
Eric Bolling (Fox Business Channel's Follow the Money) test drove the Chevy Volt at the invitation of General Motors. For four days in a row, the fully charged battery lasted only 25 miles before the Volt switched to the reserve gasoline engine. Eric calculated the car got 30 mpg including the 25 miles it ran on the battery. So, the range including the 9 gallon gas tank and the 16 kwh battery is approximately 270 miles. It will take you 4 1/2 hours to drive 270 miles at 60 mph. Then add 10 hours to charge the battery and you have a total trip time of 14.5 hours. 270 miles in 14.5 hours would be 20 mph averge speed. According to General Motors, the Volt battery holds 16 kwh of electricity. It takes a full 10 hours to charge a drained battery.The cost for the electricity to charge the Volt is never mentioned so I looked up what I pay for electricity.I pay approximately (it varies with amount used and the seasons) $1.16 per kwh.16 kwh x $1.16 per kwh = $18.56 to charge the battery.$18.56 per charge divided by 25 miles = $0.74 per mile to operate the Volt using the battery. Compare this to a similar size car with a gasoline engine only that gets 32 mpg.$4.00 per gallon divided by 32 mpg = $0.125 per mile. Gasoline prices would have to rise to $23.68/gal to break even (assuming the cost for electricity -–to charge the Volt’s batteries –- remained unchanged). The gasoline powered car cost about $15,000 while the Volt costs $46,000. So we are encouraged to pay 3 times as much for a car that costs more that 7 times as much to run and takes 3 times as long to drive across country.REALLY? -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Volt vs. Gas
Who ever wrote this made a small mistake. I pay $0.12 per KWH. A full charge will cost ~$ 2.00 or $0.08/mile vs. $0.125/mile on gas. On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 5:24 AM, Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com wrote: Eric Bolling (Fox Business Channel's Follow the Money) test drove the Chevy Volt at the invitation of General Motors. For four days in a row, the fully charged battery lasted only 25 miles before the Volt switched to the reserve gasoline engine. Eric calculated the car got 30 mpg including the 25 miles it ran on the battery. So, the range including the 9 gallon gas tank and the 16 kwh battery is approximately 270 miles. It will take you 4 1/2 hours to drive 270 miles at 60 mph. Then add 10 hours to charge the battery and you have a total trip time of 14.5 hours. 270 miles in 14.5 hours would be 20 mph averge speed. According to General Motors, the Volt battery holds 16 kwh of electricity. It takes a full 10 hours to charge a drained battery.The cost for the electricity to charge the Volt is never mentioned so I looked up what I pay for electricity.I pay approximately (it varies with amount used and the seasons) $1.16 per kwh.16 kwh x $1.16 per kwh = $18.56 to charge the battery.$18.56 per charge divided by 25 miles = $0.74 per mile to operate the Volt using the battery. Compare this to a similar size car with a gasoline engine only that gets 32 mpg.$4.00 per gallon divided by 32 mpg = $0.125 per mile. Gasoline prices would have to rise to $23.68/gal to break even (assuming the cost for electricity -–to charge the Volt’s batteries –- remained unchanged). The gasoline powered car cost about $15,000 while the Volt costs $46,000. So we are encouraged to pay 3 times as much for a car that costs more that 7 times as much to run and takes 3 times as long to drive across country.REALLY? -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Volt vs. Gas
Ah but grasshopper... you are Green and it shows you love Obama and his green program. Priceless ... Right??? To the truly indoctrinated who have been inseminated [it seems anally] with the seed of progressive thought no amount of other peoples money should be spared to feel good about saving the planet.. Snarkey math, spin news, deceptive loans, outright lies, self serving politicians [of any color or party], it's all fair and balanced . Right? I feel so much better I feel so much better I feel so much better. keep repeating that until you believe it... Gotta run... dinner is ready... it's red meat with a side dish of spotted owl... Grant... On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 4:24 AM, Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com wrote: Eric Bolling (Fox Business Channel's Follow the Money) test drove the Chevy Volt at the invitation of General Motors. For four days in a row, the fully charged battery lasted only 25 miles before the Volt switched to the reserve gasoline engine. Eric calculated the car got 30 mpg including the 25 miles it ran on the battery. So, the range including the 9 gallon gas tank and the 16 kwh battery is approximately 270 miles. It will take you 4 1/2 hours to drive 270 miles at 60 mph. Then add 10 hours to charge the battery and you have a total trip time of 14.5 hours. 270 miles in 14.5 hours would be 20 mph averge speed. According to General Motors, the Volt battery holds 16 kwh of electricity. It takes a full 10 hours to charge a drained battery.The cost for the electricity to charge the Volt is never mentioned so I looked up what I pay for electricity.I pay approximately (it varies with amount used and the seasons) $1.16 per kwh.16 kwh x $1.16 per kwh = $18.56 to charge the battery.$18.56 per charge divided by 25 miles = $0.74 per mile to operate the Volt using the battery. Compare this to a similar size car with a gasoline engine only that gets 32 mpg.$4.00 per gallon divided by 32 mpg = $0.125 per mile. Gasoline prices would have to rise to $23.68/gal to break even (assuming the cost for electricity -–to charge the Volt’s batteries –- remained unchanged). The gasoline powered car cost about $15,000 while the Volt costs $46,000. So we are encouraged to pay 3 times as much for a car that costs more that 7 times as much to run and takes 3 times as long to drive across country.REALLY? -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT- Pair of Xserve
That's about right for G4s. They are almost worthless these days. I had one as a part of a package deal. I have it to a Linux buddy to play with. Dan On Feb 25, 2012, at 12:21 AM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/sys/2869050350.html Not bad for $50 clay 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Volt vs. Gas
Haters gonna hate. What you don't get is that most driving is short trips. So for a 25 mile daily round trip (or a series of trips that add up to 25 miles) you'd pay ~$2/day. A 32mpg car on $3.50 gas pays $2.73. After 42,465 trips you've paid for the car. Thats only 116 years if you drove 25 miles every day. The mileage will also depend on what kind of driving you do. These cars are intended to get decent mileage in the city where regular gas cars do poorly. Buying one for a mostly highway commute is foolish. Also the Volt is bigger than a $15,000 car and has more creature comforts. Am I saying the Volt is a great car? No but change has to start somewhere. You're a crab bucket (Google it), just want to drag everybody back down because you didn't think of it first. -Curt Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 05:49:54 -0600 From: Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volt vs. Gas Message-ID: caojz3l8kdquxphdda0gui1qumok40f3ywghkjexeboxlny3...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Who ever wrote this made a small mistake. I pay $0.12 per KWH. A full charge will cost ~$ 2.00 or $0.08/mile vs. $0.125/mile on gas. On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 5:24 AM, Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com wrote: Eric Bolling (Fox Business Channel's Follow the Money) test drove the Chevy Volt at the invitation of General Motors. For four days in a row, the fully charged battery lasted only 25 miles before the Volt switched to the reserve gasoline engine. Eric calculated the car got 30 mpg including the 25 miles it ran on the battery. So, the range including the 9 gallon gas tank and the 16 kwh battery is approximately 270 miles. It will take you 4 1/2 hours to drive 270 miles at 60 mph. Then add 10 hours to charge the battery and you have a total trip time of 14.5 hours. 270 miles in 14.5 hours would be 20 mph averge speed. According to General Motors, the Volt battery holds 16 kwh of electricity. It takes a full 10 hours to charge a drained battery.The cost for the electricity to charge the Volt is never mentioned so I looked up what I pay for electricity.I pay approximately (it varies with amount used and the seasons) $1.16 per kwh.16 kwh x $1.16 per kwh = $18.56 to charge the battery.$18.56 per charge divided by 25 miles = $0.74 per mile to operate the Volt using the battery. Compare this to a similar size car with a gasoline engine only that gets 32 mpg.$4.00 per gallon divided by 32 mpg = $0.125 per mile. Gasoline prices would have to rise to $23.68/gal to break even (assuming the cost for electricity -?to charge the Volt?s batteries ?- remained unchanged). The gasoline powered car cost about $15,000 while the Volt costs $46,000. So we are encouraged to pay 3 times as much for a car that costs more that 7 times as much to run and takes 3 times as long to drive across country.REALLY? -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1987 300 SDL clock replacement
My clock stopped on my 1987 300SDL. Every dead clock I have seen of that vintage/style has stopped because of dead electrolytic capacitors. Getting the cluster out and apart is the hardest part, we're talking about $1 of new components and a bit of soldering here. If you hammer the setting knob hard enough you can break off a plastic axle pin. I've fixed those with a tiny drill and a bit of paperclip as a new axle pin. To be clear: you don't need a different clock, just fix the one you have. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Portland, OR CL: nice 300CD
selling [300D] to him and buying a 240D. What can I expect for fuel mileage for a 240D of the same time. You are already doing very well. The 240D would not do better unless it was a stickshift, and maybe not even then. An automatic 240D (we had one) is very un-fun in the acceleration department. The words dangerously slow tend to come to mind. One of the few cars I've ever driven that could not keep speed up some of our highway hills in this State. My 200D kicked its ass up one side of the street and down the other, performing nicely and getting substantially better mileage. Not, lately, better than you're already getting I might add. If you want to change, fine, but don't do it for mileage! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Volt vs. Gas
My elec. costs about $0.09 per kwh. National average is about $0.10 per kwh. What is it about Eric Bolling's elec. that makes it cost nearly 13 times what mine costs? Maybe it comes in on 24 wheels or is hauled in on some ridiculous, special vehicle with a hole (gold-plated sunroof) in its top. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 6:24 AM Subject: [MBZ] Volt vs. Gas Eric Bolling (Fox Business Channel's Follow the Money) test drove the Chevy Volt at the invitation of General Motors. For four days in a row, the fully charged battery lasted only 25 miles before the Volt switched to the reserve gasoline engine. Eric calculated the car got 30 mpg including the 25 miles it ran on the battery. So, the range including the 9 gallon gas tank and the 16 kwh battery is approximately 270 miles. It will take you 4 1/2 hours to drive 270 miles at 60 mph. Then add 10 hours to charge the battery and you have a total trip time of 14.5 hours. 270 miles in 14.5 hours would be 20 mph averge speed. According to General Motors, the Volt battery holds 16 kwh of electricity. It takes a full 10 hours to charge a drained battery.The cost for the electricity to charge the Volt is never mentioned so I looked up what I pay for electricity.I pay approximately (it varies with amount used and the seasons) $1.16 per kwh.16 kwh x $1.16 per kwh = $18.56 to charge the battery.$18.56 per charge divided by 25 miles = $0.74 per mile to operate the Volt using the battery. Compare this to a similar size car with a gasoline engine only that gets 32 mpg.$4.00 per gallon divided by 32 mpg = $0.125 per mile. Gasoline prices would have to rise to $23.68/gal to break even (assuming the cost for electricity -–to charge the Volt’s batteries –- remained unchanged). The gasoline powered car cost about $15,000 while the Volt costs $46,000. So we are encouraged to pay 3 times as much for a car that costs more that 7 times as much to run and takes 3 times as long to drive across country.REALLY? -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Who wanted a 240D?
In today's paper, the number is a car dealer lot --R Vehicle Details Price: $2,250 Body Style: Mileage:144,000 Engine: Transmission: Fuel Type: Doors: Ext. Color: Beige Int. Color: Beige VIN: Description 1981 Mercedes-Benz 240D, 144000 miles, Beige, Beige interior, Nice Car, Runs Good, Please Call 843-486-5515, $2250 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Volt vs. Gas
The entire electric car story is fraught with hyperbole. As an engineer, just give me the facts, not the bullshit. I'll make my own decisions. It has nothing to do with hate or love. Fact: If I spend $46.000 for a car that I can only drive in 25 mile runs, what is the cost/benefit ratio compared with, say, taking a taxi or a limo to work on a cost per mile or cost per day calculation. How many days do I have to drive the Volt to break even on investment? So far, for the Volt and other electric cars, the math shows it to be a bad investment, without factoring in any maintenance issues, or unknown future design flaws that show up in an unproven platform. On the other hand, my 30 yr. old 300D has a long successful history with a known fuel per mile cost and a much lower purchase cost. Easy choice, job security for Q and all is well. Grant... On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 8:51 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: My elec. costs about $0.09 per kwh. National average is about $0.10 per kwh. What is it about Eric Bolling's elec. that makes it cost nearly 13 times what mine costs? Maybe it comes in on 24 wheels or is hauled in on some ridiculous, special vehicle with a hole (gold-plated sunroof) in its top. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 6:24 AM Subject: [MBZ] Volt vs. Gas Eric Bolling (Fox Business Channel's Follow the Money) test drove the Chevy Volt at the invitation of General Motors. For four days in a row, the fully charged battery lasted only 25 miles before the Volt switched to the reserve gasoline engine. Eric calculated the car got 30 mpg including the 25 miles it ran on the battery. So, the range including the 9 gallon gas tank and the 16 kwh battery is approximately 270 miles. It will take you 4 1/2 hours to drive 270 miles at 60 mph. Then add 10 hours to charge the battery and you have a total trip time of 14.5 hours. 270 miles in 14.5 hours would be 20 mph averge speed. According to General Motors, the Volt battery holds 16 kwh of electricity. It takes a full 10 hours to charge a drained battery.The cost for the electricity to charge the Volt is never mentioned so I looked up what I pay for electricity.I pay approximately (it varies with amount used and the seasons) $1.16 per kwh.16 kwh x $1.16 per kwh = $18.56 to charge the battery.$18.56 per charge divided by 25 miles = $0.74 per mile to operate the Volt using the battery. Compare this to a similar size car with a gasoline engine only that gets 32 mpg.$4.00 per gallon divided by 32 mpg = $0.125 per mile. Gasoline prices would have to rise to $23.68/gal to break even (assuming the cost for electricity -–to charge the Volt’s batteries –- remained unchanged). The gasoline powered car cost about $15,000 while the Volt costs $46,000. So we are encouraged to pay 3 times as much for a car that costs more that 7 times as much to run and takes 3 times as long to drive across country.REALLY? -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Volt vs. Gas
Zackly! Wilton - Original Message - From: G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volt vs. Gas The entire electric car story is fraught with hyperbole. As an engineer, just give me the facts, not the bullshit. I'll make my own decisions. It has nothing to do with hate or love. Fact: If I spend $46.000 for a car that I can only drive in 25 mile runs, what is the cost/benefit ratio compared with, say, taking a taxi or a limo to work on a cost per mile or cost per day calculation. How many days do I have to drive the Volt to break even on investment? So far, for the Volt and other electric cars, the math shows it to be a bad investment, without factoring in any maintenance issues, or unknown future design flaws that show up in an unproven platform. On the other hand, my 30 yr. old 300D has a long successful history with a known fuel per mile cost and a much lower purchase cost. Easy choice, job security for Q and all is well. Grant... On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 8:51 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: My elec. costs about $0.09 per kwh. National average is about $0.10 per kwh. What is it about Eric Bolling's elec. that makes it cost nearly 13 times what mine costs? Maybe it comes in on 24 wheels or is hauled in on some ridiculous, special vehicle with a hole (gold-plated sunroof) in its top. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 6:24 AM Subject: [MBZ] Volt vs. Gas Eric Bolling (Fox Business Channel's Follow the Money) test drove the Chevy Volt at the invitation of General Motors. For four days in a row, the fully charged battery lasted only 25 miles before the Volt switched to the reserve gasoline engine. Eric calculated the car got 30 mpg including the 25 miles it ran on the battery. So, the range including the 9 gallon gas tank and the 16 kwh battery is approximately 270 miles. It will take you 4 1/2 hours to drive 270 miles at 60 mph. Then add 10 hours to charge the battery and you have a total trip time of 14.5 hours. 270 miles in 14.5 hours would be 20 mph averge speed. According to General Motors, the Volt battery holds 16 kwh of electricity. It takes a full 10 hours to charge a drained battery.The cost for the electricity to charge the Volt is never mentioned so I looked up what I pay for electricity.I pay approximately (it varies with amount used and the seasons) $1.16 per kwh.16 kwh x $1.16 per kwh = $18.56 to charge the battery.$18.56 per charge divided by 25 miles = $0.74 per mile to operate the Volt using the battery. Compare this to a similar size car with a gasoline engine only that gets 32 mpg.$4.00 per gallon divided by 32 mpg = $0.125 per mile. Gasoline prices would have to rise to $23.68/gal to break even (assuming the cost for electricity -–to charge the Volt’s batteries –- remained unchanged). The gasoline powered car cost about $15,000 while the Volt costs $46,000. So we are encouraged to pay 3 times as much for a car that costs more that 7 times as much to run and takes 3 times as long to drive across country.REALLY? -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Who wanted a 240D?
If I needed wheels, i's consider this one. especially if it had 3 pedals. Not a bad price for a car that should easily run another 100-200k miles. A 240D is great for buzzing around metro areas or commuting. They are not the best if the drive requires fast acceleration, or 80 MPH speeds. But for 0-60 driving, a 240D is great. One difference between a 240D and a 300D is that the 240D will do better mileage around town. A Diesel will inherently not lose as much MPG average in town as a gasser. Plus in place of being in a minicar death trap, you have the protection of a real MB. In today's paper, the number is a car dealer lot --R Vehicle Details Price: $2,250 Body Style: Mileage:144,000 Engine: Transmission: Fuel Type: Doors: Ext. Color: Beige Int. Color: Beige VIN: Description 1981 Mercedes-Benz 240D, 144000 miles, Beige, Beige interior, Nice Car, Runs Good, Please Call 843-486-5515, $2250 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT. turn tables ??
Hey Guys, Off topic, but I know some of you guys are into this stuff. I'm getting back into vinyl over CDs, and MP3. I miss the quality and warmth of old records. Anyway, I have an old mid 80s Sony receiver, and a Sony turn table, that is a front loader (slides out like a CD player). It's direct drive, but the bed will now not slide out. Not sure if it's just the switch (Sony switch always felt fragile to me), or something more mechanical. Anyway, I was wonder if anyone had any suggestions for a good quality used turn table? I know Macintosh make good amps, but not really in the market for an amp at the moment. Just looking for a good quality turn table, that will work with my Sony receiver. Something of good quality that was made before everything was outsourced to China and Mexico. Thanks in advance. Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT- Pair of Xserve
Where can I get a horribly inexpensive edition of Xserve to run on it? clay On Feb 25, 2012, at 5:16 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: That's about right for G4s. They are almost worthless these days. I had one as a part of a package deal. I have it to a Linux buddy to play with. Dan On Feb 25, 2012, at 12:21 AM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/sys/2869050350.html Not bad for $50 clay 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT- Pair of Xserve
You mean OS X Server? The latest version that would run on a PPC machine is 10.5. I may have some old versions that are from machines that have ben surplused, therefore are available Contact me off list for more details, please. Dan On Feb 25, 2012, at 4:44 PM, clay monroe wrote: Where can I get a horribly inexpensive edition of Xserve to run on it? clay On Feb 25, 2012, at 5:16 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: That's about right for G4s. They are almost worthless these days. I had one as a part of a package deal. I have it to a Linux buddy to play with. Dan On Feb 25, 2012, at 12:21 AM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/sys/2869050350.html Not bad for $50 clay 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT. turn tables ??
I bought a Technics SLB2 new back in the seventies. Still works well. Had to change the belt once. The SLD2 is the direct drive one. There are better quality turntables available IE. Bang And Oluffson(sp), old Pioneer stuff (70's), Marantz (sp). Rick Sent from my iPhone. On Feb 25, 2012, at 3:38 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: Anyway, I was wonder if anyone had any suggestions for a good quality used turn table? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT. turn tables ??
On Feb 25, 2012 1:38 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: Just looking for a good quality turn table, that will work with my Sony receiver. Something of good quality that was made before everything was outsourced to China and Mexico. Get a used Technics SL-1950 on eBay and a new Shure M97 cartridge for it. If the Technics is missing its feet (they usually are) buy some foam at a fabric store, cut it into strips, and use a small bubble level to get the turntable perfectly flat. Adjust the tracking weight per Shure's instructions. Probably about US$250 all together. You'll be amazed. (Not as much as if you got a better used receiver and speakers too, but still, this is a great-sounding setup for the price.) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Volt vs. Gas
Yup. There's a lot we don't know about this new type of electric car. I wonder: what will happen to battery capacity with repeated deep discharge?, when will the battery need to be replaced (and why)?, what will replacement cost?, what happens to the old battery?, what is the life and service requirements for the electric drive train? Batteries have always been the issue. I worked n the lunar rover over 40 years ago and little has changed in that regard. Don't get me wrong. Electric cars have great promise and one day I expect that's what I (or my great grandchildren) will drive. But the Volt/Leaf came about rather suddenly so there's not much track record. And I have to wonder why GM gave up on the Volt last time 'round. Scott -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of G Mann Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 11:05 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volt vs. Gas The entire electric car story is fraught with hyperbole. As an engineer, just give me the facts, not the bullshit. I'll make my own decisions. It has nothing to do with hate or love. Fact: If I spend $46.000 for a car that I can only drive in 25 mile runs, what is the cost/benefit ratio compared with, say, taking a taxi or a limo to work on a cost per mile or cost per day calculation. How many days do I have to drive the Volt to break even on investment? So far, for the Volt and other electric cars, the math shows it to be a bad investment, without factoring in any maintenance issues, or unknown future design flaws that show up in an unproven platform. On the other hand, my 30 yr. old 300D has a long successful history with a known fuel per mile cost and a much lower purchase cost. Easy choice, job security for Q and all is well. Grant... On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 8:51 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: My elec. costs about $0.09 per kwh. National average is about $0.10 per kwh. What is it about Eric Bolling's elec. that makes it cost nearly 13 times what mine costs? Maybe it comes in on 24 wheels or is hauled in on some ridiculous, special vehicle with a hole (gold-plated sunroof) in its top. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 6:24 AM Subject: [MBZ] Volt vs. Gas Eric Bolling (Fox Business Channel's Follow the Money) test drove the Chevy Volt at the invitation of General Motors. For four days in a row, the fully charged battery lasted only 25 miles before the Volt switched to the reserve gasoline engine. Eric calculated the car got 30 mpg including the 25 miles it ran on the battery. So, the range including the 9 gallon gas tank and the 16 kwh battery is approximately 270 miles. It will take you 4 1/2 hours to drive 270 miles at 60 mph. Then add 10 hours to charge the battery and you have a total trip time of 14.5 hours. 270 miles in 14.5 hours would be 20 mph averge speed. According to General Motors, the Volt battery holds 16 kwh of electricity. It takes a full 10 hours to charge a drained battery.The cost for the electricity to charge the Volt is never mentioned so I looked up what I pay for electricity.I pay approximately (it varies with amount used and the seasons) $1.16 per kwh.16 kwh x $1.16 per kwh = $18.56 to charge the battery.$18.56 per charge divided by 25 miles = $0.74 per mile to operate the Volt using the battery. Compare this to a similar size car with a gasoline engine only that gets 32 mpg.$4.00 per gallon divided by 32 mpg = $0.125 per mile. Gasoline prices would have to rise to $23.68/gal to break even (assuming the cost for electricity --to charge the Volt's batteries -- remained unchanged). The gasoline powered car cost about $15,000 while the Volt costs $46,000. So we are encouraged to pay 3 times as much for a car that costs more that 7 times as much to run and takes 3 times as long to drive across country.REALLY? -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://m ail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://m ail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts
Re: [MBZ] OT. turn tables ??
I am fond of Pioneer from the 70s. Maybe it is not the uber expensive stuff, but good, and not overpriced. If anyone finds a decent Pioneer 6 or 7 series receiver/amp for cheap, I would like to have another. I am talking 626 to 747 mainly, but anything that is in the format 6x6 or 7x7 is what I'd like. (where x is an integer) Hey Guys, Off topic, but I know some of you guys are into this stuff. I'm getting back into vinyl over CDs, and MP3. I miss the quality and warmth of old records. Anyway, I have an old mid 80s Sony receiver, and a Sony turn table, that is a front loader (slides out like a CD player). It's direct drive, but the bed will now not slide out. Not sure if it's just the switch (Sony switch always felt fragile to me), or something more mechanical. Anyway, I was wonder if anyone had any suggestions for a good quality used turn table? I know Macintosh make good amps, but not really in the market for an amp at the moment. Just looking for a good quality turn table, that will work with my Sony receiver. Something of good quality that was made before everything was outsourced to China and Mexico. Thanks in advance. Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT. turn tables ??
I looked on the Charleston CL, found these recent postings -- there is some decent stuff all the time listed: http://charleston.craigslist.org/ele/2855939965.html http://charleston.craigslist.org/ele/2834570881.html http://charleston.craigslist.org/ele/2870707950.html http://charleston.craigslist.org/ele/2865771097.html http://charleston.craigslist.org/ele/2864704069.html This is a nice machine http://charleston.craigslist.org/ele/2859233805.html This guy is some kind of collector/reseller, always posting stuff http://charleston.craigslist.org/ele/2844213425.html Lots of choices. Not sure where you are but this stuff is out there all over the place. For a bennie you ought to be able to find something nice. My buddy at the Habitat ReStore gave me some sort of turntable (a Technics I think, not a very good machine but it would spin a platter), the belt on it was broken and the cart was kinda beat, but you can get belts and cartridges pretty cheap. Do you use Audacity to rip the vinyl? --R (who has his Pioneer PL-51 sitting right here next to me, was my Christmas present in 1973, and goes nicely with my 1973 Pioneer SX-727 receiver I bought back then -- the large Advents are downstairs hooked up to the TV and still shaking the walls) On 2/25/12 4:38 PM, E M wrote: Hey Guys, Off topic, but I know some of you guys are into this stuff. I'm getting back into vinyl over CDs, and MP3. I miss the quality and warmth of old records. Anyway, I have an old mid 80s Sony receiver, and a Sony turn table, that is a front loader (slides out like a CD player). It's direct drive, but the bed will now not slide out. Not sure if it's just the switch (Sony switch always felt fragile to me), or something more mechanical. Anyway, I was wonder if anyone had any suggestions for a good quality used turn table? I know Macintosh make good amps, but not really in the market for an amp at the moment. Just looking for a good quality turn table, that will work with my Sony receiver. Something of good quality that was made before everything was outsourced to China and Mexico. Thanks in advance. Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT. turn tables ??
Thanks everyone for your input. Some great suggestions, which I will follow up on! I had a look on eBay and as well my local CL as some suggested. I also spent a couple of hours today checking out LP on eBay. Shopping for those old LPs that were loaned out years ago, and for some reason, never returned, is going to be fun. :-) Thanks again everyone! Ed 300E (looked at some Macintosh stuff on their home page, for the car, but as good as it might be, I think they're a bit too ugly to put in any of the cars) On 25 February 2012 18:19, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I looked on the Charleston CL, found these recent postings -- there is some decent stuff all the time listed: http://charleston.craigslist.**org/ele/2855939965.htmlhttp://charleston.craigslist.org/ele/2855939965.html http://charleston.craigslist.**org/ele/2834570881.htmlhttp://charleston.craigslist.org/ele/2834570881.html http://charleston.craigslist.**org/ele/2870707950.htmlhttp://charleston.craigslist.org/ele/2870707950.html http://charleston.craigslist.**org/ele/2865771097.htmlhttp://charleston.craigslist.org/ele/2865771097.html http://charleston.craigslist.**org/ele/2864704069.htmlhttp://charleston.craigslist.org/ele/2864704069.html This is a nice machine http://charleston.craigslist.** org/ele/2859233805.htmlhttp://charleston.craigslist.org/ele/2859233805.html This guy is some kind of collector/reseller, always posting stuff http://charleston.craigslist.**org/ele/2844213425.htmlhttp://charleston.craigslist.org/ele/2844213425.html Lots of choices. Not sure where you are but this stuff is out there all over the place. For a bennie you ought to be able to find something nice. My buddy at the Habitat ReStore gave me some sort of turntable (a Technics I think, not a very good machine but it would spin a platter), the belt on it was broken and the cart was kinda beat, but you can get belts and cartridges pretty cheap. Do you use Audacity to rip the vinyl? --R (who has his Pioneer PL-51 sitting right here next to me, was my Christmas present in 1973, and goes nicely with my 1973 Pioneer SX-727 receiver I bought back then -- the large Advents are downstairs hooked up to the TV and still shaking the walls) On 2/25/12 4:38 PM, E M wrote: Hey Guys, Off topic, but I know some of you guys are into this stuff. I'm getting back into vinyl over CDs, and MP3. I miss the quality and warmth of old records. Anyway, I have an old mid 80s Sony receiver, and a Sony turn table, that is a front loader (slides out like a CD player). It's direct drive, but the bed will now not slide out. Not sure if it's just the switch (Sony switch always felt fragile to me), or something more mechanical. Anyway, I was wonder if anyone had any suggestions for a good quality used turn table? I know Macintosh make good amps, but not really in the market for an amp at the moment. Just looking for a good quality turn table, that will work with my Sony receiver. Something of good quality that was made before everything was outsourced to China and Mexico. Thanks in advance. Ed 300E __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] USB turn tables
has anyone had experience with the USB turntables to convert vinyl to digital? None I have seen will do 78, but they should work with my LPs. seems like a simple solution My pioneer turntable won't do 78s either. I have a stack of 78s that I'd like to convert. I guess I could use my 1950 vintage Monkey Ward multimedia center and cut into the wires from the turntable to convert the 78s. It does 78 and 45 only. Rich's list of Chucktown audio equip is mostly too new for me. But I'd like to have his Pioneer SX-727 receiver. That is right in the vintage I want. My old 626 has been flawless except for a couple lights burning out in 40 years of use. Still have not found a source for the light bulbs. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] USB turn tables
I have a box of 45s in their jackets, all Top Ten stuff from the 70s. I repaired a pinball machine for a guy a few years ago and he paid me with a box of 45s (all in very good condition, I might add - he said they were dupes from his collection.) If I ever got around to cataloging them I would probably put them on eBay as a lot. I suspect they have to be worth something Dan On Feb 25, 2012, at 7:23 PM, Dieselhead wrote: has anyone had experience with the USB turntables to convert vinyl to digital? None I have seen will do 78, but they should work with my LPs. seems like a simple solution My pioneer turntable won't do 78s either. I have a stack of 78s that I'd like to convert. I guess I could use my 1950 vintage Monkey Ward multimedia center and cut into the wires from the turntable to convert the 78s. It does 78 and 45 only. Rich's list of Chucktown audio equip is mostly too new for me. But I'd like to have his Pioneer SX-727 receiver. That is right in the vintage I want. My old 626 has been flawless except for a couple lights burning out in 40 years of use. Still have not found a source for the light bulbs. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] USB turn tables
Wonder what the quality would be like on rhem Sent from my iPhone On Feb 25, 2012, at 6:23 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: has anyone had experience with the USB turntables to convert vinyl to digital? None I have seen will do 78, but they should work with my LPs. seems like a simple solution My pioneer turntable won't do 78s either. I have a stack of 78s that I'd like to convert. I guess I could use my 1950 vintage Monkey Ward multimedia center and cut into the wires from the turntable to convert the 78s. It does 78 and 45 only. Rich's list of Chucktown audio equip is mostly too new for me. But I'd like to have his Pioneer SX-727 receiver. That is right in the vintage I want. My old 626 has been flawless except for a couple lights burning out in 40 years of use. Still have not found a source for the light bulbs. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] USB turn tables
watcha got? Ed 300E On 25 February 2012 19:41, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: I have a box of 45s in their jackets, all Top Ten stuff from the 70s. I repaired a pinball machine for a guy a few years ago and he paid me with a box of 45s (all in very good condition, I might add - he said they were dupes from his collection.) If I ever got around to cataloging them I would probably put them on eBay as a lot. I suspect they have to be worth something Dan On Feb 25, 2012, at 7:23 PM, Dieselhead wrote: has anyone had experience with the USB turntables to convert vinyl to digital? None I have seen will do 78, but they should work with my LPs. seems like a simple solution My pioneer turntable won't do 78s either. I have a stack of 78s that I'd like to convert. I guess I could use my 1950 vintage Monkey Ward multimedia center and cut into the wires from the turntable to convert the 78s. It does 78 and 45 only. Rich's list of Chucktown audio equip is mostly too new for me. But I'd like to have his Pioneer SX-727 receiver. That is right in the vintage I want. My old 626 has been flawless except for a couple lights burning out in 40 years of use. Still have not found a source for the light bulbs. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT. turn tables ??
I've dusted off theturntable, etc. since we moved recently. I also want to RIP a bunch of shelac and some vinyl. I have a Sony TA-1150 amp that I bought used in the '80s. The switched and linear pots were noisy until I moved it 50 miles in the back of the van - now it works great! The turntable is an old Dual 1209 that needs the on/off switch that activates when the arm lifts either cleaned or hot-wired. I have the 78rpm needle for it - don't remember the cartridge now, an a TC778 equalizer to feed the Sony when playing the 78s. We have around 8 shelf feet of 78s that have been in the family since the 1920s, need to get on the project someday! On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 6:15 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks everyone for your input. Some great suggestions, which I will follow up on! I had a look on eBay and as well my local CL as some suggested. I also spent a couple of hours today checking out LP on eBay. Shopping for those old LPs that were loaned out years ago, and for some reason, never returned, is going to be fun. :-) Thanks again everyone! Ed 300E (looked at some Macintosh stuff on their home page, for the car, but as good as it might be, I think they're a bit too ugly to put in any of the cars) On 25 February 2012 18:19, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I looked on the Charleston CL, found these recent postings -- there is some decent stuff all the time listed: http://charleston.craigslist.**org/ele/2855939965.html http://charleston.craigslist.org/ele/2855939965.html http://charleston.craigslist.**org/ele/2834570881.html http://charleston.craigslist.org/ele/2834570881.html http://charleston.craigslist.**org/ele/2870707950.html http://charleston.craigslist.org/ele/2870707950.html http://charleston.craigslist.**org/ele/2865771097.html http://charleston.craigslist.org/ele/2865771097.html http://charleston.craigslist.**org/ele/2864704069.html http://charleston.craigslist.org/ele/2864704069.html This is a nice machine http://charleston.craigslist.** org/ele/2859233805.html http://charleston.craigslist.org/ele/2859233805.html This guy is some kind of collector/reseller, always posting stuff http://charleston.craigslist.**org/ele/2844213425.html http://charleston.craigslist.org/ele/2844213425.html Lots of choices. Not sure where you are but this stuff is out there all over the place. For a bennie you ought to be able to find something nice. My buddy at the Habitat ReStore gave me some sort of turntable (a Technics I think, not a very good machine but it would spin a platter), the belt on it was broken and the cart was kinda beat, but you can get belts and cartridges pretty cheap. Do you use Audacity to rip the vinyl? --R (who has his Pioneer PL-51 sitting right here next to me, was my Christmas present in 1973, and goes nicely with my 1973 Pioneer SX-727 receiver I bought back then -- the large Advents are downstairs hooked up to the TV and still shaking the walls) On 2/25/12 4:38 PM, E M wrote: Hey Guys, Off topic, but I know some of you guys are into this stuff. I'm getting back into vinyl over CDs, and MP3. I miss the quality and warmth of old records. Anyway, I have an old mid 80s Sony receiver, and a Sony turn table, that is a front loader (slides out like a CD player). It's direct drive, but the bed will now not slide out. Not sure if it's just the switch (Sony switch always felt fragile to me), or something more mechanical. Anyway, I was wonder if anyone had any suggestions for a good quality used turn table? I know Macintosh make good amps, but not really in the market for an amp at the moment. Just looking for a good quality turn table, that will work with my Sony receiver. Something of good quality that was made before everything was outsourced to China and Mexico. Thanks in advance. Ed 300E __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] USB turn tables
I bought an Ion for the wife a few years back and she converted a bunch of her vinyl collection. IIRC we bought some software (Spin it Again?) in preference to what Ion supplied. That worked ok The quality is ok on most of the files she got, but I'm sure one could do better with a good turntable hooked up through a decent preamp/receiver or such. I think the sound card in the 'puter is also a big factor. I bought an Audigy PCMCIA off eBay to plug into her ThinkPad for that purpose. Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dieselhead Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 4:23 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] USB turn tables has anyone had experience with the USB turntables to convert vinyl to digital? None I have seen will do 78, but they should work with my LPs. seems like a simple solution My pioneer turntable won't do 78s either. I have a stack of 78s that I'd like to convert. I guess I could use my 1950 vintage Monkey Ward multimedia center and cut into the wires from the turntable to convert the 78s. It does 78 and 45 only. Rich's list of Chucktown audio equip is mostly too new for me. But I'd like to have his Pioneer SX-727 receiver. That is right in the vintage I want. My old 626 has been flawless except for a couple lights burning out in 40 years of use. Still have not found a source for the light bulbs. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT. turn tables ??
table, that is a front loader (slides out like a CD player). It's direct drive, but the bed will now not slide out. Not sure if it's just the switch (Sony switch always felt fragile to me), or something more mechanical. Belt. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Snow today...
...so I finished putting back together my 240D of snowblowers, a 1986 Ariens ST824 that I got at auction for $150. It cleared the driveway nicely, and is a real pleasure to use. Very heavy-duty construction compared to most anything else I've looked at. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DETROIT DIESEL SYSTEMS DDEC 11 DDEC 111 SCAN TOOL
What do u own? I have two mci dl3's with the 12.7 60 series. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 24, 2012, at 10:18 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: I own 3 Detroits with DDEC III and would like to have the scan tool .. Does it have cables and plug adapters with it?.. Is it functional? What would be your price? A direct email would be welcome. Thanks, Grant.. AZ... On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 5:23 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Just picked this up at auction. No idea what the thing will do. What does the group estimate this is worth?Guess I should toss it onto ebay or CL clay 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] HP TouchPad
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Re: [MBZ] OT. turn tables ??
Join up to your local Freecycle site and post a wanted for turntable. Bound to be some gathering dust in somebody's basement. I picked up a turntable from one guy and a receiver from another. Speakers from yet another kind donor. clay On Feb 25, 2012, at 2:10 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: I bought a Technics SLB2 new back in the seventies. Still works well. Had to change the belt once. The SLD2 is the direct drive one. There are better quality turntables available IE. Bang And Oluffson(sp), old Pioneer stuff (70's), Marantz (sp). Rick Sent from my iPhone. On Feb 25, 2012, at 3:38 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: Anyway, I was wonder if anyone had any suggestions for a good quality used turn table? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] HP TouchPad
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Re: [MBZ] Portland, OR CL: nice 300CD
Thanks for the insights. I am very gentle on my commute. I have a friend who uses my car from time to time And he doesn't do as well as I do. But for 3 mpgs I'm not making the change. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 24, 2012, at 7:50 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Really? I always thought a W123 300D turbo was more in the 26mpg average range. I've averaged 28mpg with my '78 240D over the last 21,000 miles which is exactly the same as I got with my '83 240D over 80,000 miles. Thats mostly highway miles. I was thinking that if Peter was getting 2-3mpg more than I thought normal for a 300D that maybe he could average 30mpg with a 240D. I've had both my 240Ds up to 32mpg with very gentle driving but on my normal commute I just can't be bothered. -Curt Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 16:54:48 -0600 From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Portland, OR CL: nice 300CD Message-ID: 20120224165448.a8cfa80b.fmi...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Peter Hertzing wrote: Okay... So as long as we are musing miscellaneously, Fuel Mileage. I have a 1983 300D - This thing is nice good shape bought it right, and a friend really would like to buy it from me. I bought it to teach myself about the Mercedes diesel, and that has been a success. As I see fuel prices rise, I am thinking of selling it to him and buying a 240D. What can I expect for fuel mileage for a 240D of the same time. I know it will be super slow - but it would probably do well on my commute. My commute is 45 miles each way - rolling country hills with only 2 complete stops. I drive about 60 MPH. In my 300D i tend to get right at about 28 or 29 MPG. I'm not worried about fun, just economy. I have a Miata to deliver some fun during the spring and fall when the weatherr is perfect. So - share your thoughts. The other thing that appeals to me is the manual climate control in the 240. A W123 240 will probably not do any better. Because the turbocharger increases engine efficiency, reducing the number of cylinders and loosing the turbo will probably cancel out. In my experience, a turbo 300 in good condition can get _better_ fuel mileage than a normally-aspirated 240 - especially above 50 to 55 MPH (80-90 km/h). But I'm with you on the manual heater controls! -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT. turn tables ??
I can't hear any motor at all when I hit the open switch. If you still think it's the belt, I'll pull it apart and see if I can find a belt online. I've seen them for other players, and they seem pretty cheap. Thanks, Ed 300E On 25 February 2012 20:47, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: table, that is a front loader (slides out like a CD player). It's direct drive, but the bed will now not slide out. Not sure if it's just the switch (Sony switch always felt fragile to me), or something more mechanical. Belt. -- Jim __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT. turn tables ??
Thanks! Ed 300E On 25 February 2012 21:04, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Join up to your local Freecycle site and post a wanted for turntable. Bound to be some gathering dust in somebody's basement. I picked up a turntable from one guy and a receiver from another. Speakers from yet another kind donor. clay On Feb 25, 2012, at 2:10 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: I bought a Technics SLB2 new back in the seventies. Still works well. Had to change the belt once. The SLD2 is the direct drive one. There are better quality turntables available IE. Bang And Oluffson(sp), old Pioneer stuff (70's), Marantz (sp). Rick Sent from my iPhone. On Feb 25, 2012, at 3:38 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: Anyway, I was wonder if anyone had any suggestions for a good quality used turn table? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Volt vs. Gas
Most missed my point. I copied the junk off the Internet and immediately made a comment what is wrong with it. Obama? Has nothing to do with that, but it is used to make him look bad. That's my point. That Chicago mobster would not even know what the talk is all about. It is wrong to slander the poor fu#$%r for all that is controversial. I am not pro or con Obama, nor am I a donkey or elephant, The majority voted for what we have, from the local HOA all the way to Washington. My humble opinion is that the majority of all the people are spoiled. ignorant, dumb or all of the above and complain rather than think and be proactive. Enough for politics, religion and opinions. The Electric/Hybrid is an improvement, but it is not the answer. Cconsidering that it took tens of thousand of years from man discovering fire and a mere hundred some years from discovering coal and harnessing steam to get where we are now. I remember the days when airbags ran into heavy objections. How do we recycle/remediate that junk? Never became an issue as far as I know. Recycling LiIon cells, well... I retired from an engineering position with a national company in the business of remediation of hazardous materials. NASA hired us to do research and testing to dispose of Lithium batteries. Not feasible under all the governing rules (EPA, FHSA, NMSA, CFR, OSHA, etc). Well, we throw them in to a furnace and look the other way and ignore emissions. (Don't do that at home!) Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Yup. There's a lot we don't know about this new type of electric car. I wonder: what will happen to battery capacity with repeated deep discharge?, when will the battery need to be replaced (and why)?, what will replacement cost?, what happens to the old battery?, what is the life and service requirements for the electric drive train? Batteries have always been the issue. I worked n the lunar rover over 40 years ago and little has changed in that regard. Don't get me wrong. Electric cars have great promise and one day I expect that's what I (or my great grandchildren) will drive. But the Volt/Leaf came about rather suddenly so there's not much track record. And I have to wonder why GM gave up on the Volt last time 'round. Scott -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of G Mann Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 11:05 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volt vs. Gas The entire electric car story is fraught with hyperbole. As an engineer, just give me the facts, not the bullshit. I'll make my own decisions. It has nothing to do with hate or love. Fact: If I spend $46.000 for a car that I can only drive in 25 mile runs, what is the cost/benefit ratio compared with, say, taking a taxi or a limo to work on a cost per mile or cost per day calculation. How many days do I have to drive the Volt to break even on investment? So far, for the Volt and other electric cars, the math shows it to be a bad investment, without factoring in any maintenance issues, or unknown future design flaws that show up in an unproven platform. On the other hand, my 30 yr. old 300D has a long successful history with a known fuel per mile cost and a much lower purchase cost. Easy choice, job security for Q and all is well. Grant... On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 8:51 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: My elec. costs about $0.09 per kwh. National average is about $0.10 per kwh. What is it about Eric Bolling's elec. that makes it cost nearly 13 times what mine costs? Maybe it comes in on 24 wheels or is hauled in on some ridiculous, special vehicle with a hole (gold-plated sunroof) in its top. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 6:24 AM Subject: [MBZ] Volt vs. Gas Eric Bolling (Fox Business Channel's Follow the Money) test drove the Chevy Volt at the invitation of General Motors. For four days in a row, the fully charged battery lasted only 25 miles before the Volt switched to the reserve gasoline engine. Eric calculated the car got 30 mpg including the 25 miles it ran on the battery. So, the range including the 9 gallon gas tank and the 16 kwh battery is approximately 270 miles. It will take you 4 1/2 hours to drive 270 miles at 60 mph. Then add 10 hours to charge the battery and you have a total trip time of 14.5 hours. 270 miles in 14.5 hours would be 20 mph averge speed. According to General Motors, the Volt battery holds 16 kwh of electricity. It takes a full 10 hours to charge a drained battery.The cost for the electricity to charge the Volt is never mentioned so I looked up what I pay for electricity.I pay approximately (it varies with amount used and the seasons) $1.16 per kwh.16
Re: [MBZ] HP TouchPad
Came through fine. It was just HTML instead of plain text. I would think there is a tweak in the email program for that. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] USB turn tables
I believe Macs have had decent to high end audio. I am not concerned about the sound card at this point. It seems to me that the software and its sampling rate, compression and that sort of stuff are more of a concern than the turntable or the sound on the computer. I figured on using audacity. I was just wondering if the usb turntables were markedly better or worse than the regular turntable fed through a fair to middling receiver/amp. My turntable is 1972 vintage Pioneer PL-12D I bought an Ion for the wife a few years back and she converted a bunch of her vinyl collection. IIRC we bought some software (Spin it Again?) in preference to what Ion supplied. That worked ok The quality is ok on most of the files she got, but I'm sure one could do better with a good turntable hooked up through a decent preamp/receiver or such. I think the sound card in the 'puter is also a big factor. I bought an Audigy PCMCIA off eBay to plug into her ThinkPad for that purpose. Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] USB turn tables
They are just Chinese turntables running through normal USB sound card ICs, as I understand it. Gain is optimized out of the box but the big benefit is convenience. Also the software automatically splits tracks; I don't know if Audacity can do that, but I wouldn't buy an Ion for the software... Best, Tim On Feb 25, 2012 10:09 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I believe Macs have had decent to high end audio. I am not concerned about the sound card at this point. It seems to me that the software and its sampling rate, compression and that sort of stuff are more of a concern than the turntable or the sound on the computer. I figured on using audacity. I was just wondering if the usb turntables were markedly better or worse than the regular turntable fed through a fair to middling receiver/amp. My turntable is 1972 vintage Pioneer PL-12D I bought an Ion for the wife a few years back and she converted a bunch of her vinyl collection. IIRC we bought some software (Spin it Again?) in preference to what Ion supplied. That worked ok The quality is ok on most of the files she got, but I'm sure one could do better with a good turntable hooked up through a decent preamp/receiver or such. I think the sound card in the 'puter is also a big factor. I bought an Audigy PCMCIA off eBay to plug into her ThinkPad for that purpose. Greg __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] USB turn tables
You would get better conversion with a better turntable, but not the same level of convenience. A good turntable cartridge is either near or more than the cost of the entire USB turntable... On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: They are just Chinese turntables running through normal USB sound card ICs, as I understand it. Gain is optimized out of the box but the big benefit is convenience. Also the software automatically splits tracks; I don't know if Audacity can do that, but I wouldn't buy an Ion for the software... Best, Tim On Feb 25, 2012 10:09 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I believe Macs have had decent to high end audio. I am not concerned about the sound card at this point. It seems to me that the software and its sampling rate, compression and that sort of stuff are more of a concern than the turntable or the sound on the computer. I figured on using audacity. I was just wondering if the usb turntables were markedly better or worse than the regular turntable fed through a fair to middling receiver/amp. My turntable is 1972 vintage Pioneer PL-12D I bought an Ion for the wife a few years back and she converted a bunch of her vinyl collection. IIRC we bought some software (Spin it Again?) in preference to what Ion supplied. That worked ok The quality is ok on most of the files she got, but I'm sure one could do better with a good turntable hooked up through a decent preamp/receiver or such. I think the sound card in the 'puter is also a big factor. I bought an Audigy PCMCIA off eBay to plug into her ThinkPad for that purpose. Greg __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Who needs a red 124 convertible?
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Re: [MBZ] USB turn tables
You can use Audacity to convert a 78 played at 45 -- there is a feature in there to do that. Rip it then do the conversion. I have a bunch of old 78s someone gave me, and ran a few of them through. I wouldn't bother with one of the new USB things, just run a monitor out from your receiver to your sound card in (which might be the MIC in) and do it that way. I bought an external Creative sound card box (USB) some years ago that has a bunch of inputs and outputs, it seems to work pretty well. It was like $25 at the time. On your other TT, there is a thing called a load belt that makes the tray go in/out, probably. I had a nice NEC CD player that would go through them pretty quickly. Basically a little rubber band, I bought a bunch to replace them, but alas now the CD player is ancient technology. --R On 2/25/12 7:23 PM, Dieselhead wrote: has anyone had experience with the USB turntables to convert vinyl to digital? None I have seen will do 78, but they should work with my LPs. seems like a simple solution My pioneer turntable won't do 78s either. I have a stack of 78s that I'd like to convert. I guess I could use my 1950 vintage Monkey Ward multimedia center and cut into the wires from the turntable to convert the 78s. It does 78 and 45 only. Rich's list of Chucktown audio equip is mostly too new for me. But I'd like to have his Pioneer SX-727 receiver. That is right in the vintage I want. My old 626 has been flawless except for a couple lights burning out in 40 years of use. Still have not found a source for the light bulbs. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Who needs a red 124 convertible?
On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:42:25 -0500 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: http://swmi.craigslist.org/cto/2839200568.html Seems a tad expensive. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Who needs a red 124 convertible?
Craig wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:42:25 -0500 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: http://swmi.craigslist.org/cto/2839200568.html Seems a tad expensive. Most sellers still want $12k for a nice one. (which might be a better deal than $5k for a shabby one) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Who needs a red 124 convertible?
Looks like it has leather interior, and he didn't even mention it. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 10:42 PM Subject: [MBZ] Who needs a red 124 convertible? http://swmi.craigslist.org/cto/2839200568.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Who needs a red 124 convertible?
On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:51:09 -0500 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Craig wrote: On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 22:42:25 -0500 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: http://swmi.craigslist.org/cto/2839200568.html Seems a tad expensive. Most sellers still want $12k for a nice one. (which might be a better deal than $5k for a shabby one) I'll take the '95 E320 we got from Don Snook for $5k rather than something that needs work and looks worse. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] slooow
An automatic 240D (we had one) is very un-fun in the acceleration department. The words dangerously slow tend to come to mind. One of the few cars I've ever driven that could not keep speed up some of our highway hills in this State... And my 77hp '78 300D could not climb eastbound Snoqualmie Pass at full throttle without shifting down to 3rd which means 45mph in a 60 zone. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] USB turn tables
Ok Thanks. That is what I was wondering. I thought maybe the newer stuff was as good as a 40 year old turntable. Sounds like turntable, receiver/amp, audacity is the thing. Pain in the butt to have to separate tracks and add titles and such. You would get better conversion with a better turntable, but not the same level of convenience. A good turntable cartridge is either near or more than the cost of the entire USB turntable... On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Tim C bb...@crone.us wrote: They are just Chinese turntables running through normal USB sound card ICs, as I understand it. Gain is optimized out of the box but the big benefit is convenience. Also the software automatically splits tracks; I don't know if Audacity can do that, but I wouldn't buy an Ion for the software... Best, Tim On Feb 25, 2012 10:09 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I believe Macs have had decent to high end audio. I am not concerned about the sound card at this point. It seems to me that the software and its sampling rate, compression and that sort of stuff are more of a concern than the turntable or the sound on the computer. I figured on using audacity. I was just wondering if the usb turntables were markedly better or worse than the regular turntable fed through a fair to middling receiver/amp. My turntable is 1972 vintage Pioneer PL-12D I bought an Ion for the wife a few years back and she converted a bunch of her vinyl collection. IIRC we bought some software (Spin it Again?) in preference to what Ion supplied. That worked ok The quality is ok on most of the files she got, but I'm sure one could do better with a good turntable hooked up through a decent preamp/receiver or such. I think the sound card in the 'puter is also a big factor. I bought an Audigy PCMCIA off eBay to plug into her ThinkPad for that purpose. Greg __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT. turn tables ??
On Feb 25, 2012 1:38 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: Just looking for a good quality turn table, that will work with my Sony receiver. Something of good quality that was made before everything was outsourced to China and Mexico. Alex Chamberlain wrote: Get a used Technics SL-1950 on eBay and a new Shure M97 cartridge for it. I vote for a Grado cartridge rather than the Shure. http://gradolabs.com/page_cartridges.php There's even a cartridge for 78 RPM available. Keep in mind the playback EQ is different for 33 and 45 - and with 78s it's changes with label and when it was pressed. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
