Re: [MBZ] O/T Computer Hardware Question

2012-11-01 Thread John Reames
Cheap electrolytic crapacitors leaking their guts, losing their capacitance and 
becoming resistors...

Mainly in power supply areas.

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On Oct 31, 2012, at 20:09, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote:

 OK, so my home-cobbled HTPC started acting flaky a few days ago.  Sudden
 reboots, BIOS date gone, changing BIOS settings uncommanded, one CMOS
 checksum error.  I assumed unit needed vacuuming, possible CMOS battery
 failure, possible power supply failure.  Vacuumed, replaced P/S with new
 spare, tested CMOS battery shows 3.37V.
 
 
 
 Now I get no POST at all, no beeps either even after CMOS reset.  Most
 likely problem MoBo?  Possibly BIOS chip?  This has been up and running for
 about 4 ½ years, with a CPU upgrade from a 2X to a 4X 
 
 
 
 Setup:
 
 
 
 Silverstone case
 
 Biostar TA760G M2+ MoBo
 
 AMD Phenom™ II X4 Processor
 
 Gskill DDR2-1066 PC2-8500 2G X 2
 
 WinXP Pro
 
 
 
 I have ordered a PCI POST Tester to diagnose, but some of you nerds probably
 have some insight into this.
 
 
 
 If I have to replace the MoBo I would like to retain the CPU, RAM and Micro
 ATX form factor compatibility.  The Biostar is NLA, but there is an outfit
 in Germany that supplies BIOS chips for it.
 
 
 
 TIA for any suggestions, comments or snide remarks.
 
 
 
 Greg
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] O/T Computer Hardware Question

2012-11-01 Thread John Reames
I quit buying Antec power supplies because of them; three successive power 
supplies dying due to them is enough.  The last one that I bought was a 
Silverstone, and haven't had a whit of trouble. 

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On Oct 31, 2012, at 20:42, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net 
wrote:

 Similar deal, I had a vid card that had almost all the cheepcheepchinee 
 capacitors blown, replaced it and things went back to normal.  It is easy to 
 inspect the vid card and mobo for blown capacitors, they have their caps 
 oozing nasty-looking foamy stuff. I had a coupla old mobos go bad too, never 
 did figure out what it was, easy enough to replace.  Newegg had a mobo on 
 sale a day or two ago, cheepcheep but you want one that will take your 
 processor.  If you got 4.5 yr out of it owes you nothing.
 
 --R
 
 On 10/31/12 8:33 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:
 Troubleshooting hardware is a tedious process. It is easier, albeit no less 
 tedious if you have enough spare parts to construct another computer. My 
 first suspect in your instance would be the power supply. If you have a 
 spare, swap them out and see. If you don't have a spare, pull the old one 
 out and have a computer shop test it. If that tests good, disconnect all 
 peripheral devices, HDD's Floppy drive, DVD drive, and any other boards. If 
 it POSTs shut it down, and hook up devices one by one until you find the 
 culprit. If it doesn't POST, memory, CPU, or MOBO is suspect. Having known 
 good memory and a known good CPU would be a big help here. Also, inspect the 
 MOBO and all cards for bulging or popped capacitors. A visual inspection 
 could be very revealing.
 
 I had a home built computer that did the same exact thing and it turned out 
 to be the video card being bad. I have seen failed memory, failing hard 
 drives, bad floppy drives, optical drives crapping out, and failed power 
 supply's all cause similar problems. Memory problems can be found with a mem 
 check program run from a live CDROM. The only way to isolate other problems 
 is trial and error. Like I first stated, I would start with the power 
 supply. It is the first in the list of usual suspects.
 
 Rick
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 31, 2012, at 7:08 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net 
 wrote:
 
 OK, so my home-cobbled HTPC started acting flaky a few days ago.  Sudden
 reboots, BIOS date gone, changing BIOS settings uncommanded, one CMOS
 checksum error.  I assumed unit needed vacuuming, possible CMOS battery
 failure, possible power supply failure.  Vacuumed, replaced P/S with new
 spare, tested CMOS battery shows 3

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Re: [MBZ] Riding in a Flatbed....(w123 starters)

2012-11-01 Thread Michael Canfield
It IS a pain in the ass job on the w123 turbo cars!  I love working on mine
until it's time to do that job again.  What in the world were those crazy
Germans smoking when they decided to use those allen head bolts in such a
rotten spot to get to?

Mike
On Oct 31, 2012 12:07 PM, G. M. Brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote:


 Bob,
 I agree with Peter Frederick as I had a similar problem in my '84 300D
 which I waited too long to deal with and had to have it flatbedded home
 from work one day . . . bad spot(s) on starter.  I replaced the starter
 (what a job!) and this solved the problem.  Good luck.

 G. M. Brown
 Brevard, NC
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Re: [MBZ] any way to get a copy of an old eBay listing

2012-11-01 Thread Tim C
On Oct 31, 2012 11:10 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 Craig diese...@pisquared.net writes:

  On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 22:15:28 -0400 Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
  wrote:
 
  Anyone know a super-secret way to pull up ebay listings that are more
  than 60 days old?  I need to get as much as I can on item from the
  November 2011 timeframe.  I have the item number, I was able to find
  feedback comments about it, a sale price, and a partial description.
  I'd love to find a way to get the whole listing.  I've tried
archive.org
  but they don't seem to have a copy of that particular one.
 
  Ideas?
 
  The Wayback Machine?

 That's what I meant by archive.org, it wasn't in their snapshots.  In
 fact they seem to have stopped snapshotting eBay around August 2011.

I assume you have googled the description?  There are a number of sites
that seem to exist only to copy ebay pages and drive affiliate revenue, and
those sites don't tend to delete.

Also, there is a big delay at archive.org, it is very likely they have the
content but haven't put it up yet.  If you have a few months to wait...

Best,
Tim
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Re: [MBZ] Bio-Diesel

2012-11-01 Thread Max Dillon
Sounds to me like your bio diesel predecessor left methanol in the mix...
-- 
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Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD

clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote:

Viton is not impervious to B100.  I have had to do DV twice on both
Gump and E300D.  Return lines have disintegrated as well as lines from
the tank.  Cigar hoses 2x.  Valve cover on E300D turned to mush because
the hoses leaked into the valve head and I had to suck 0.5 gal out of
there.  O-rings for fuel filters went south twice.  Filler neck gasket
melted.  

Injectors got gunked up with melted rubber hose bits.  



On Oct 30, 2012, at 5:02 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:

 Delivery valve seals and hoses could be replaced with viton. Problem
solved except for injectors. What injector issues arise?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 30, 2012, at 7:48 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net
wrote:
 
 Do not run B100.  It will eat your rubber parts and destroy your
pocketbook.  IP DV seals, injectors, fuel tank and hoses.  B20 is the
strongest I would advise.  Much over B5 does not increase the benefit
to the engine or cleaning up gunk.   Put a gallon in your tank from a 5
gallon container when you fill up.
 
 B5 also gives you the mileage you expect while increasing cetane. 
Not enough BTU in higher concentrations to improve power or MPG.  It
runs just as quiet at B2 as with more.  You could run veggie oil for
the same impact on cetane and smoothness
 
 clay
 
 
 On Oct 30, 2012, at 4:39 PM, Jon Agne wrote:
 
 I stopped by there today on my way back from NYC (story in itself). 
They have two blends, B5 and B100.  The B100 pump is around back, drive
around the left side and back into it.  The guys are very helpful, and
they mentioned to me that they get from Mainehmmm.
 
 The car did seem to run smoother/quieter, and I did not notice any
difference in performance.
 
 
 On Oct 30, 2012, at 12:54 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
 
 The owner is a bit odd but the guys working there are nice. Did they
say when the BD pump will be turned off?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 30, 2012, at 12:18 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
wrote:
 
 It was indeed the one in Acton (barely, nearly in Concord...)
 
 Nice place, doing a very brisk trade in gasoline when I was there.
 
 -Curt
 
 Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 11:43:00 -0400
 From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bio-Diesel
 Message-ID: d8b20cbc-7572-421d-8266-3d09cefa3...@gwi.net
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 
 I may try the Acton station on the way home.if I can get off of
Long Island.
 
 
 On Oct 30, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
 
 Where is this station? Is it the one in Acton?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 27, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
wrote:
 
 Finally found a bio-diesel pump in my area, put 7 gallons (all it
would take) of B100 into my '78 240D yesterday.
 
 Before I could get back on the highway I noticed the engine was
quieter, just like what happens with a quart of engine oil in the fuel.
I think this is due to the increased lubricity of bioD. Its been about
75 miles now and aside from the quietness I'm seeing the flat spot in
the beginning of the throttle go away for which I'm very grateful. When
I first got the car it would go away if I ran a LOT of Diesel Kleen in
the tank but thats an expensive way to deal with the issue. I'm also
seeing better first gear performance, easier takeoff I mean.
 
 I *think* something had gotten gummy in the IP. I did a does of
Diesel Purge last summer and things were better for awhile but the
frustrations returned. Of course I commuted with the car 110 miles a
day all last week which surely helped but I'm well pleased with this.
Also the Bio-Diesel I bought was only about $0.06 more expensive than
the cheapest diesel I can find. I wish it was more convenient to my
house, I'd use consistently. As it is I plan to fill up there on
Fridays for awhile to let the bioD do its work.
 
 -Curt
 
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Re: [MBZ] Bio-Diesel

2012-11-01 Thread Max Dillon
Processor, not predecessor...
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Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD

Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote:

Sounds to me like your bio diesel predecessor left methanol in the
mix...
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300
'87 300TD

clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote:

Viton is not impervious to B100.  I have had to do DV twice on both
Gump and E300D.  Return lines have disintegrated as well as lines from
the tank.  Cigar hoses 2x.  Valve cover on E300D turned to mush
because
the hoses leaked into the valve head and I had to suck 0.5 gal out of
there.  O-rings for fuel filters went south twice.  Filler neck gasket
melted.  

Injectors got gunked up with melted rubber hose bits.  



On Oct 30, 2012, at 5:02 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:

 Delivery valve seals and hoses could be replaced with viton. Problem
solved except for injectors. What injector issues arise?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 30, 2012, at 7:48 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net
wrote:
 
 Do not run B100.  It will eat your rubber parts and destroy your
pocketbook.  IP DV seals, injectors, fuel tank and hoses.  B20 is the
strongest I would advise.  Much over B5 does not increase the benefit
to the engine or cleaning up gunk.   Put a gallon in your tank from a
5
gallon container when you fill up.
 
 B5 also gives you the mileage you expect while increasing cetane. 
Not enough BTU in higher concentrations to improve power or MPG.  It
runs just as quiet at B2 as with more.  You could run veggie oil for
the same impact on cetane and smoothness
 
 clay
 
 
 On Oct 30, 2012, at 4:39 PM, Jon Agne wrote:
 
 I stopped by there today on my way back from NYC (story in itself). 
They have two blends, B5 and B100.  The B100 pump is around back,
drive
around the left side and back into it.  The guys are very helpful, and
they mentioned to me that they get from Mainehmmm.
 
 The car did seem to run smoother/quieter, and I did not notice any
difference in performance.
 
 
 On Oct 30, 2012, at 12:54 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
 
 The owner is a bit odd but the guys working there are nice. Did they
say when the BD pump will be turned off?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 30, 2012, at 12:18 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
wrote:
 
 It was indeed the one in Acton (barely, nearly in Concord...)
 
 Nice place, doing a very brisk trade in gasoline when I was there.
 
 -Curt
 
 Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 11:43:00 -0400
 From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bio-Diesel
 Message-ID: d8b20cbc-7572-421d-8266-3d09cefa3...@gwi.net
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 
 I may try the Acton station on the way home.if I can get off of
Long Island.
 
 
 On Oct 30, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
 
 Where is this station? Is it the one in Acton?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 27, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
wrote:
 
 Finally found a bio-diesel pump in my area, put 7 gallons (all it
would take) of B100 into my '78 240D yesterday.
 
 Before I could get back on the highway I noticed the engine was
quieter, just like what happens with a quart of engine oil in the
fuel.
I think this is due to the increased lubricity of bioD. Its been about
75 miles now and aside from the quietness I'm seeing the flat spot in
the beginning of the throttle go away for which I'm very grateful.
When
I first got the car it would go away if I ran a LOT of Diesel Kleen in
the tank but thats an expensive way to deal with the issue. I'm also
seeing better first gear performance, easier takeoff I mean.
 
 I *think* something had gotten gummy in the IP. I did a does of
Diesel Purge last summer and things were better for awhile but the
frustrations returned. Of course I commuted with the car 110 miles a
day all last week which surely helped but I'm well pleased with this.
Also the Bio-Diesel I bought was only about $0.06 more expensive than
the cheapest diesel I can find. I wish it was more convenient to my
house, I'd use consistently. As it is I plan to fill up there on
Fridays for awhile to let the bioD do its work.
 
 -Curt
 
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Re: [MBZ] O/T Computer Hardware Question

2012-11-01 Thread Benz Hogs
Were these out of warranty?  Antec has a long 5yr warranty period, 
compared to most other brands.


Luther


On 11/1/2012 4:39 AM, John Reames wrote:

I quit buying Antec power supplies because of them; three successive power 
supplies dying due to them is enough.  The last one that I bought was a 
Silverstone, and haven't had a whit of trouble.

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jream...@verizon.net
Home: +14106646986
Mobile: +14437915905

On Oct 31, 2012, at 20:42, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net 
wrote:


Similar deal, I had a vid card that had almost all the cheepcheepchinee 
capacitors blown, replaced it and things went back to normal.  It is easy to 
inspect the vid card and mobo for blown capacitors, they have their caps oozing 
nasty-looking foamy stuff. I had a coupla old mobos go bad too, never did 
figure out what it was, easy enough to replace.  Newegg had a mobo on sale a 
day or two ago, cheepcheep but you want one that will take your processor.  If 
you got 4.5 yr out of it owes you nothing.

--R

On 10/31/12 8:33 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:

Troubleshooting hardware is a tedious process. It is easier, albeit no less 
tedious if you have enough spare parts to construct another computer. My first 
suspect in your instance would be the power supply. If you have a spare, swap 
them out and see. If you don't have a spare, pull the old one out and have a 
computer shop test it. If that tests good, disconnect all peripheral devices, 
HDD's Floppy drive, DVD drive, and any other boards. If it POSTs shut it down, 
and hook up devices one by one until you find the culprit. If it doesn't POST, 
memory, CPU, or MOBO is suspect. Having known good memory and a known good CPU 
would be a big help here. Also, inspect the MOBO and all cards for bulging or 
popped capacitors. A visual inspection could be very revealing.

I had a home built computer that did the same exact thing and it turned out to 
be the video card being bad. I have seen failed memory, failing hard drives, 
bad floppy drives, optical drives crapping out, and failed power supply's all 
cause similar problems. Memory problems can be found with a mem check program 
run from a live CDROM. The only way to isolate other problems is trial and 
error. Like I first stated, I would start with the power supply. It is the 
first in the list of usual suspects.

Rick
Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 31, 2012, at 7:08 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote:


OK, so my home-cobbled HTPC started acting flaky a few days ago.  Sudden
reboots, BIOS date gone, changing BIOS settings uncommanded, one CMOS
checksum error.  I assumed unit needed vacuuming, possible CMOS battery
failure, possible power supply failure.  Vacuumed, replaced P/S with new
spare, tested CMOS battery shows 3


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Re: [MBZ] O/T Computer Hardware Question

2012-11-01 Thread John Reames
They failed right at the end of warranty.

I can't remember what the first one was, but the last two were Neo's, neo480, 
or neo400 iirc.

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On Nov 1, 2012, at 10:16, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote:

 Were these out of warranty?  Antec has a long 5yr warranty period, compared 
 to most other brands.
 
 Luther
 
 
 On 11/1/2012 4:39 AM, John Reames wrote:
 I quit buying Antec power supplies because of them; three successive power 
 supplies dying due to them is enough.  The last one that I bought was a 
 Silverstone, and haven't had a whit of trouble.
 
 --
 John W Reames
 jream...@verizon.net
 Home: +14106646986
 Mobile: +14437915905
 
 On Oct 31, 2012, at 20:42, Rich Thomas 
 richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
 
 Similar deal, I had a vid card that had almost all the cheepcheepchinee 
 capacitors blown, replaced it and things went back to normal.  It is easy 
 to inspect the vid card and mobo for blown capacitors, they have their caps 
 oozing nasty-looking foamy stuff. I had a coupla old mobos go bad too, 
 never did figure out what it was, easy enough to replace.  Newegg had a 
 mobo on sale a day or two ago, cheepcheep but you want one that will take 
 your processor.  If you got 4.5 yr out of it owes you nothing.
 
 --R
 
 On 10/31/12 8:33 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:
 Troubleshooting hardware is a tedious process. It is easier, albeit no 
 less tedious if you have enough spare parts to construct another computer. 
 My first suspect in your instance would be the power supply. If you have a 
 spare, swap them out and see. If you don't have a spare, pull the old one 
 out and have a computer shop test it. If that tests good, disconnect all 
 peripheral devices, HDD's Floppy drive, DVD drive, and any other boards. 
 If it POSTs shut it down, and hook up devices one by one until you find 
 the culprit. If it doesn't POST, memory, CPU, or MOBO is suspect. Having 
 known good memory and a known good CPU would be a big help here. Also, 
 inspect the MOBO and all cards for bulging or popped capacitors. A visual 
 inspection could be very revealing.
 
 I had a home built computer that did the same exact thing and it turned 
 out to be the video card being bad. I have seen failed memory, failing 
 hard drives, bad floppy drives, optical drives crapping out, and failed 
 power supply's all cause similar problems. Memory problems can be found 
 with a mem check program run from a live CDROM. The only way to isolate 
 other problems is trial and error. Like I first stated, I would start with 
 the power supply. It is the first in the list of usual suspects.
 
 Rick
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 31, 2012, at 7:08 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net 
 wrote:
 
 OK, so my home-cobbled HTPC started acting flaky a few days ago.  Sudden
 reboots, BIOS date gone, changing BIOS settings uncommanded, one CMOS
 checksum error.  I assumed unit needed vacuuming, possible CMOS battery
 failure, possible power supply failure.  Vacuumed, replaced P/S with new
 spare, tested CMOS battery shows 3
 
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Re: [MBZ] O/T Computer Hardware Question

2012-11-01 Thread Craig
On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 11:00:39 -0400 John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net
wrote:

 They failed right at the end of warranty.
 
 I can't remember what the first one was, but the last two were Neo's,
 neo480, or neo400 iirc.

I have had good success with Antec, though the last power supply I bought
(for a server computer at the Lab) was a Seasonic because it was rated
80+ Gold.


Craig


 John W Reames
 jream...@verizon.net
 Home: +14106646986
 Mobile: +14437915905
 
 On Nov 1, 2012, at 10:16, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote:
 
  Were these out of warranty?  Antec has a long 5yr warranty period,
  compared to most other brands.
  
  Luther
  
  
  On 11/1/2012 4:39 AM, John Reames wrote:
  I quit buying Antec power supplies because of them; three successive
  power supplies dying due to them is enough.  The last one that I
  bought was a Silverstone, and haven't had a whit of trouble.
  
  --
  John W Reames
  jream...@verizon.net
  Home: +14106646986
  Mobile: +14437915905
  
  On Oct 31, 2012, at 20:42, Rich Thomas
  richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
  
  Similar deal, I had a vid card that had almost all the
  cheepcheepchinee capacitors blown, replaced it and things went back
  to normal.  It is easy to inspect the vid card and mobo for blown
  capacitors, they have their caps oozing nasty-looking foamy stuff.
  I had a coupla old mobos go bad too, never did figure out what it
  was, easy enough to replace.  Newegg had a mobo on sale a day or
  two ago, cheepcheep but you want one that will take your
  processor.  If you got 4.5 yr out of it owes you nothing.
  
  --R
  
  On 10/31/12 8:33 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:
  Troubleshooting hardware is a tedious process. It is easier,
  albeit no less tedious if you have enough spare parts to construct
  another computer. My first suspect in your instance would be the
  power supply. If you have a spare, swap them out and see. If you
  don't have a spare, pull the old one out and have a computer shop
  test it. If that tests good, disconnect all peripheral devices,
  HDD's Floppy drive, DVD drive, and any other boards. If it POSTs
  shut it down, and hook up devices one by one until you find the
  culprit. If it doesn't POST, memory, CPU, or MOBO is suspect.
  Having known good memory and a known good CPU would be a big help
  here. Also, inspect the MOBO and all cards for bulging or popped
  capacitors. A visual inspection could be very revealing.
  
  I had a home built computer that did the same exact thing and it
  turned out to be the video card being bad. I have seen failed
  memory, failing hard drives, bad floppy drives, optical drives
  crapping out, and failed power supply's all cause similar
  problems. Memory problems can be found with a mem check program
  run from a live CDROM. The only way to isolate other problems is
  trial and error. Like I first stated, I would start with the power
  supply. It is the first in the list of usual suspects.
  
  Rick
  Sent from my iPhone
  
  On Oct 31, 2012, at 7:08 PM, Greg Fiorentino
  gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote:
  
  OK, so my home-cobbled HTPC started acting flaky a few days ago.
  Sudden reboots, BIOS date gone, changing BIOS settings
  uncommanded, one CMOS checksum error.  I assumed unit needed
  vacuuming, possible CMOS battery failure, possible power supply
  failure.  Vacuumed, replaced P/S with new spare, tested CMOS
  battery shows 3
  
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Re: [MBZ] Riding in a Flatbed....(w123 starters)

2012-11-01 Thread Craig
On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 07:54:32 -0400 Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com
wrote:

 It IS a pain in the ass job on the w123 turbo cars!  I love working on
 mine until it's time to do that job again.  What in the world were
 those crazy Germans smoking when they decided to use those allen head
 bolts in such a rotten spot to get to?

Ah! I have a W123 naturally-aspirated car and it's not much of a job to
change the starter. I forgot the turbo is on that side!


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Nylon Roller

2012-11-01 Thread Randy Bennell

On 31/10/2012 9:57 PM, WILTON wrote:

Who was wanting a nylon roller for a window coupla weeks ago?  Check this - 
screen door roller, $1.50/pair.

http://stores.nextag.com/store/4798097/product/949410355/Nylon-Roller

Wilton
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It was me Wilton.

I don't know if I ever posted the result of our search for a reasonable 
repair solution.
I found rollers intended for a shower door at Home Depot. As luck would 
have it, they were almost perfect - just a wee bit too big in diameter.


I used a simple jig to make them a bit smaller:

- a strip of wood with a hole drilled in it to attach the roller
 - then clamped that in a vice
-  then pushed it into a sanding drum on the drill press a little bit 
and clamped down the vice
- then rotated the roller to evenly reduce the size of the nylon roller 
by a little bit so it would fit into the channel.


 The rollers came with a threaded stud so it made attachment to the 
regulator on the truck very easy.


 We just ground off the original rivet and bolted these in with a bit 
of locktite. It works fine.


Cost was about $5 and that was double what it could have been as  I 
bought 2 sets in case I was not successful with my first try (I had not 
figured out how I was going to reduce the size when I was in Home Depot).

So, I have a spare set - if I can find them if I ever need them again.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Nylon Roller

2012-11-01 Thread WILTON

ATTABOY!  'Zackly what I had in mind.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Nylon Roller



On 31/10/2012 9:57 PM, WILTON wrote:
Who was wanting a nylon roller for a window coupla weeks ago?  Check 
this - screen door roller, $1.50/pair.


http://stores.nextag.com/store/4798097/product/949410355/Nylon-Roller

Wilton
___


It was me Wilton.

I don't know if I ever posted the result of our search for a reasonable 
repair solution.
I found rollers intended for a shower door at Home Depot. As luck would 
have it, they were almost perfect - just a wee bit too big in diameter.


I used a simple jig to make them a bit smaller:

- a strip of wood with a hole drilled in it to attach the roller
 - then clamped that in a vice
-  then pushed it into a sanding drum on the drill press a little bit and 
clamped down the vice
- then rotated the roller to evenly reduce the size of the nylon roller by 
a little bit so it would fit into the channel.


 The rollers came with a threaded stud so it made attachment to the 
regulator on the truck very easy.


 We just ground off the original rivet and bolted these in with a bit of 
locktite. It works fine.


Cost was about $5 and that was double what it could have been as  I bought 
2 sets in case I was not successful with my first try (I had not figured 
out how I was going to reduce the size when I was in Home Depot).

So, I have a spare set - if I can find them if I ever need them again.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Riding in a Flatbed....(w123 starters)

2012-11-01 Thread Michael Canfield
First one I pulled off was from my old coupe.  Came off in minutes.  The 83
was a bear.

Mike
On Nov 1, 2012 11:23 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

 On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 07:54:32 -0400 Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  It IS a pain in the ass job on the w123 turbo cars!  I love working on
  mine until it's time to do that job again.  What in the world were
  those crazy Germans smoking when they decided to use those allen head
  bolts in such a rotten spot to get to?

 Ah! I have a W123 naturally-aspirated car and it's not much of a job to
 change the starter. I forgot the turbo is on that side!


 Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Part numbers

2012-11-01 Thread Rusty Cullens
Dan, I can't tell you if the 002 997 53 36 is Chinese or not. I can tell you
that it is made by MTC which is a well known aftermarket company and not
Genuine Mercedes. That part number fits all 616  617 diesels and is located
on top of the valve cover. Mercedes does not show that it is replaced by any
other number.

The 003 997 00 36 fits only M117.962 and M117.963 5.0 liter V-8's and is
located on the throttle body housing. Mercedes does not show that it is a
replacement for any other part numbers. It would definitely be a Genuine
Mercedes item and I sell it for $68.00. 



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-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Mountain Man
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 6:15 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Part numbers

Rusty wrote:
 That part number 002 997 53 36 is a good part number it doesn't 
 supersede to anything. I have access to hundreds of them at $21.95.

Thanks.
How does the part compare to 003-997-00-36?
Is the 002 997 53 36 china or german?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Nylon Roller

2012-11-01 Thread Randy Bennell
Thanks Wilton. I do have to admit we were quite pleased with ourselves 
for getting it solved reasonably quickly.
One always knows it can be done but it can be an issue of spending more 
time looking for a suitable part than it is worth.
We could have bought the whole regulator out of the USA for about $125 
so we could not spend hours upon hours looking for parts to repair the 
rollers.


I had found a different type before I got the shower door rollers at 
Home Depot. The other set came from Lee Valley and is intended for 
guiding doors in a cabinet. They might have worked but I did not have 
confidence in the material they were made of and was afraid they might 
not last long. They too were slightly big and I had not really 
determined a way to reduce their size. I might have been able to do 
something similar to what I ultimately did with the shower door rollers 
but I would have had to find a means of attachment as they did not have 
the threaded stud. They were intended to be attached with a woodscrew to 
a cabinet.


In any event, I was very happy to solve the problem.

Randy

On 01/11/2012 10:31 AM, WILTON wrote:

ATTABOY!  'Zackly what I had in mind.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Nylon Roller



On 31/10/2012 9:57 PM, WILTON wrote:
Who was wanting a nylon roller for a window coupla weeks ago?  Check 
this - screen door roller, $1.50/pair.


http://stores.nextag.com/store/4798097/product/949410355/Nylon-Roller

Wilton
___


It was me Wilton.

I don't know if I ever posted the result of our search for a 
reasonable repair solution.
I found rollers intended for a shower door at Home Depot. As luck 
would have it, they were almost perfect - just a wee bit too big in 
diameter.


I used a simple jig to make them a bit smaller:

- a strip of wood with a hole drilled in it to attach the roller
 - then clamped that in a vice
-  then pushed it into a sanding drum on the drill press a little bit 
and clamped down the vice
- then rotated the roller to evenly reduce the size of the nylon 
roller by a little bit so it would fit into the channel.


 The rollers came with a threaded stud so it made attachment to the 
regulator on the truck very easy.


 We just ground off the original rivet and bolted these in with a bit 
of locktite. It works fine.


Cost was about $5 and that was double what it could have been as  I 
bought 2 sets in case I was not successful with my first try (I had 
not figured out how I was going to reduce the size when I was in Home 
Depot).

So, I have a spare set - if I can find them if I ever need them again.

Randy

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[MBZ] Fuel Return Lines

2012-11-01 Thread Bob Rentfro
In the process of resurrecting this 240D, the fuel leaks have started in
the return lines between the injectors. What is that V stuff we're supposed
to use? Viton? I can get that stuff anywhere right? Mercedes wants $35 a
meter for it. Should I bite the monetary bullet and buy a meter of that
stuff?

Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] Fuel Return Lines

2012-11-01 Thread Mitch Haley

Bob Rentfro wrote:

In the process of resurrecting this 240D, the fuel leaks have started in
the return lines between the injectors. What is that V stuff we're supposed
to use? Viton? I can get that stuff anywhere right? Mercedes wants $35 a
meter for it. Should I bite the monetary bullet and buy a meter of that
stuff?


Rusty (Well, Tom, actually) didn't charge me $35 for the last meter I bought, 
but that was a few years ago. Some people have bought generic Viton hose in an 
inch size that's close to the proper metric size. The right stuff is metric and 
fabric covered.


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Re: [MBZ] Fuel Return Lines

2012-11-01 Thread Rusty Cullens
And $10.00 per meter

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On Behalf Of Mitch Haley
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 1:56 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel Return Lines

Bob Rentfro wrote:
 In the process of resurrecting this 240D, the fuel leaks have started 
 in the return lines between the injectors. What is that V stuff we're 
 supposed to use? Viton? I can get that stuff anywhere right? Mercedes 
 wants $35 a meter for it. Should I bite the monetary bullet and buy a 
 meter of that stuff?

Rusty (Well, Tom, actually) didn't charge me $35 for the last meter I
bought, but that was a few years ago. Some people have bought generic Viton
hose in an inch size that's close to the proper metric size. The right stuff
is metric and fabric covered.

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Re: [MBZ] Fuel Return Lines

2012-11-01 Thread Bob Rentfro
Damn it, Rustyyour're so far away. They are leaking now. I may have to
just get some from the stealership.

Bob R
On Nov 1, 2012 9:59 AM, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote:

 And $10.00 per meter

 Rusty Cullens
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 Suite 260
 Atlanta, GA 30360

 800-741-5252
 770-452-7320

 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
 On Behalf Of Mitch Haley
 Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 1:56 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel Return Lines

 Bob Rentfro wrote:
  In the process of resurrecting this 240D, the fuel leaks have started
  in the return lines between the injectors. What is that V stuff we're
  supposed to use? Viton? I can get that stuff anywhere right? Mercedes
  wants $35 a meter for it. Should I bite the monetary bullet and buy a
  meter of that stuff?

 Rusty (Well, Tom, actually) didn't charge me $35 for the last meter I
 bought, but that was a few years ago. Some people have bought generic Viton
 hose in an inch size that's close to the proper metric size. The right
 stuff
 is metric and fabric covered.

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Re: [MBZ] Fuel Return Lines

2012-11-01 Thread Rusty Cullens
I can ship from Phoenix too


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-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Bob Rentfro
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 1:04 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel Return Lines

Damn it, Rustyyour're so far away. They are leaking now. I may have to
just get some from the stealership.

Bob R
On Nov 1, 2012 9:59 AM, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote:

 And $10.00 per meter

 Rusty Cullens
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 Suite 260
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 800-741-5252
 770-452-7320

 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com 
 [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
 On Behalf Of Mitch Haley
 Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 1:56 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel Return Lines

 Bob Rentfro wrote:
  In the process of resurrecting this 240D, the fuel leaks have 
  started in the return lines between the injectors. What is that V 
  stuff we're supposed to use? Viton? I can get that stuff anywhere 
  right? Mercedes wants $35 a meter for it. Should I bite the monetary 
  bullet and buy a meter of that stuff?

 Rusty (Well, Tom, actually) didn't charge me $35 for the last meter I 
 bought, but that was a few years ago. Some people have bought generic 
 Viton hose in an inch size that's close to the proper metric size. The 
 right stuff is metric and fabric covered.

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Re: [MBZ] Fuel Return Lines

2012-11-01 Thread Bob Rentfro
So is all of the fuel line under the hood, of course with the exception of
the return lines, supposed to be the same size? The previous owner has the
improper inline filter in service and looks like some of the fuel lines
little larger diameter than the others.

Bob R
On Nov 1, 2012 10:04 AM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote:

 Damn it, Rustyyour're so far away. They are leaking now. I may have to
 just get some from the stealership.

 Bob R
 On Nov 1, 2012 9:59 AM, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote:

 And $10.00 per meter

 Rusty Cullens
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 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
 ]
 On Behalf Of Mitch Haley
 Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 1:56 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel Return Lines

 Bob Rentfro wrote:
  In the process of resurrecting this 240D, the fuel leaks have started
  in the return lines between the injectors. What is that V stuff we're
  supposed to use? Viton? I can get that stuff anywhere right? Mercedes
  wants $35 a meter for it. Should I bite the monetary bullet and buy a
  meter of that stuff?

 Rusty (Well, Tom, actually) didn't charge me $35 for the last meter I
 bought, but that was a few years ago. Some people have bought generic
 Viton
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 stuff
 is metric and fabric covered.

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Re: [MBZ] Fuel Return Lines

2012-11-01 Thread Bob Rentfro
Will I get it tomorrow?
On Nov 1, 2012 10:05 AM, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote:

 I can ship from Phoenix too


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 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
 On Behalf Of Bob Rentfro
 Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 1:04 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel Return Lines

 Damn it, Rustyyour're so far away. They are leaking now. I may have to
 just get some from the stealership.

 Bob R
 On Nov 1, 2012 9:59 AM, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote:

  And $10.00 per meter
 
  Rusty Cullens
  buyMBparts, Inc.
  6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd.
  Suite 260
  Atlanta, GA 30360
 
  800-741-5252
  770-452-7320
 
  -Original Message-
  From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
  [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
  On Behalf Of Mitch Haley
  Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 1:56 PM
  To: Mercedes Discussion List
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel Return Lines
 
  Bob Rentfro wrote:
   In the process of resurrecting this 240D, the fuel leaks have
   started in the return lines between the injectors. What is that V
   stuff we're supposed to use? Viton? I can get that stuff anywhere
   right? Mercedes wants $35 a meter for it. Should I bite the monetary
   bullet and buy a meter of that stuff?
 
  Rusty (Well, Tom, actually) didn't charge me $35 for the last meter I
  bought, but that was a few years ago. Some people have bought generic
  Viton hose in an inch size that's close to the proper metric size. The
  right stuff is metric and fabric covered.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Riding in a Flatbed....(w123 starters)

2012-11-01 Thread Curt Raymond
Thats one of the reasons I never replace just a solenoid. I always think how 
much would I want to do this job again?
To replace the solenoid step 1 is remove starter...

-Curt

Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 09:23:09 -0600
From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Riding in a Flatbed(w123 starters)
Message-ID: 20121101092309.7d01cbb6b45d57d1d5e04...@pisquared.net
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 07:54:32 -0400 Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com
wrote:

 It IS a pain in the ass job on the w123 turbo cars!  I love working on
 mine until it's time to do that job again.  What in the world were
 those crazy Germans smoking when they decided to use those allen head
 bolts in such a rotten spot to get to?

Ah! I have a W123 naturally-aspirated car and it's not much of a job to
change the starter. I forgot the turbo is on that side!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Fuel Return Lines

2012-11-01 Thread Curt Raymond
Unlike some I have very good luck with the factory stuff. I did buy some 
HIGH-TEMPERATURE VITON RUBBER TUBING, FIRM, 1/8 ID, 1/4 OD, 1/16 WALL, 
BLACK, from McMaster-Carr which also worked very well. In fact I just used the 
last of it on my '84 190D. Its about the same price as Rusty is quoting for his 
stuff. If you require the factory cloth covered look go with Rusty's stuff for 
sure.

-Curt

Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 12:55:51 -0500
From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel Return Lines
Message-ID: 5092b7a7.9020...@voyager.net
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Bob Rentfro wrote:
 In the process of resurrecting this 240D, the fuel leaks have started in
 the return lines between the injectors. What is that V stuff we're supposed
 to use? Viton? I can get that stuff anywhere right? Mercedes wants $35 a
 meter for it. Should I bite the monetary bullet and buy a meter of that
 stuff?

Rusty (Well, Tom, actually) didn't charge me $35 for the last meter I bought, 
but that was a few years ago. Some people have bought generic Viton hose in an 
inch size that's close to the proper metric size. The right stuff is metric and 
fabric covered.

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Re: [MBZ] Fuel Return Lines

2012-11-01 Thread WILTON
Try VW stealer; some MB and VW parts are 'zackly the same - really, no 
kidding.
You might say, Okay, name one - just one.  I'd say, Alright, 30 amp 
fusible link, for example.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel Return Lines



Damn it, Rustyyour're so far away. They are leaking now. I may have to
just get some from the stealership.

Bob R
On Nov 1, 2012 9:59 AM, Rusty Cullens buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote:


And $10.00 per meter

Rusty Cullens
buyMBparts, Inc.
6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd.
Suite 260
Atlanta, GA 30360

800-741-5252
770-452-7320

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com 
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]

On Behalf Of Mitch Haley
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 1:56 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel Return Lines

Bob Rentfro wrote:
 In the process of resurrecting this 240D, the fuel leaks have started
 in the return lines between the injectors. What is that V stuff we're
 supposed to use? Viton? I can get that stuff anywhere right? Mercedes
 wants $35 a meter for it. Should I bite the monetary bullet and buy a
 meter of that stuff?

Rusty (Well, Tom, actually) didn't charge me $35 for the last meter I
bought, but that was a few years ago. Some people have bought generic 
Viton

hose in an inch size that's close to the proper metric size. The right
stuff
is metric and fabric covered.

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Re: [MBZ] Fuel Return Lines

2012-11-01 Thread Bob Rentfro
Alright Rusty. Send me a meter of the correct lovely fabric covrered return
line, the correct inline filter and the correct fuel filter. Hopefully I
can get it tomorrow. Is this good enough for do I need to call you?

Bob R
On Nov 1, 2012 10:23 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Unlike some I have very good luck with the factory stuff. I did buy some
 HIGH-TEMPERATURE VITON RUBBER TUBING, FIRM, 1/8 ID, 1/4 OD, 1/16 WALL,
 BLACK, from McMaster-Carr which also worked very well. In fact I just used
 the last of it on my '84 190D. Its about the same price as Rusty is quoting
 for his stuff. If you require the factory cloth covered look go with
 Rusty's stuff for sure.

 -Curt

 Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2012 12:55:51 -0500
 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel Return Lines
 Message-ID: 5092b7a7.9020...@voyager.net
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

 Bob Rentfro wrote:
  In the process of resurrecting this 240D, the fuel leaks have started in
  the return lines between the injectors. What is that V stuff we're
 supposed
  to use? Viton? I can get that stuff anywhere right? Mercedes wants $35 a
  meter for it. Should I bite the monetary bullet and buy a meter of that
  stuff?

 Rusty (Well, Tom, actually) didn't charge me $35 for the last meter I
 bought,
 but that was a few years ago. Some people have bought generic Viton hose
 in an
 inch size that's close to the proper metric size. The right stuff is
 metric and
 fabric covered.

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Re: [MBZ] Hurricane update from Northern NJ

2012-11-01 Thread andrew strasfogel
Sounds grim.  The photo of the NJ roller coaster (formerly on dry
land) that's now resting offshore in the lapping ocean is a vivid
display of the power of this storm.  My friend's brother in Stamford,
CT has his  home under water.  In my lifetime I have never seen
anything this devastating and widespread.

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi All,
 A short update about whats going on here... Lots of places still have no
 electricity and cell phone coverage is very poor.  Commuting into New York
 is a real mess with most trains not running.  The biggest issue I've seen,
 which looks like its going to get worse, is the availability of gasoline.
 Many stations have no power, and ones that do either are out of gas, or
 have mile long lines.  Many stations have police directing traffic and a
 line of people who have arrived on foot with gas cans in hand.  There are
 many stories of people running out of gas sitting in line to get it.

 The barrier islands seem to have taken a major beating:  the ocean has met
 the bay in two places, washing everything out in its path.  There are many
 houses piled up on top of each other in other places, and natural gas fires
 have been burning out of control.  There isn't anyone there to put them out
 and rows of houses are destroyed.

 Its quite sad here.
 Jaime


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Re: [MBZ] Hurricane update from Northern NJ

2012-11-01 Thread Randy Bennell

On 01/11/2012 2:55 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

Sounds grim.  The photo of the NJ roller coaster (formerly on dry
land) that's now resting offshore in the lapping ocean is a vivid
display of the power of this storm.  My friend's brother in Stamford,
CT has his  home under water.  In my lifetime I have never seen
anything this devastating and widespread.



How are things in DC, Andrew?

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Hurricane update from Northern NJ

2012-11-01 Thread Craig
On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 11:12:21 -0400 Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Its quite sad here.

Thank you for your report. Our prayers are with you.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Hurricane update from Northern NJ

2012-11-01 Thread andrew strasfogel
We got between 5 and 6 inches of rain betwewen Sunday at 6 pm and
Tuesday morining, accompanied by wind gusts to 60 mph.  The entire DC
metropolitan area was basically shut down for 2 days (Monday and
Tuesday) but mercifully there was little wind damage in our
neighborhood.  This may be as a result of the violent derecho storm in
late June that ripped out huge numbers of mature, weakened trees.  Our
power went out twice on Monday, the scond time for 3 hours, but that
caused miniscule hardship in comparison to what others suffered.  The
local utility (Pepco) was able to plan in advance and request crews
from other parts of the region (1800 workers) which helped speed up
reconnection times.

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:
 On 01/11/2012 2:55 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

 Sounds grim.  The photo of the NJ roller coaster (formerly on dry
 land) that's now resting offshore in the lapping ocean is a vivid
 display of the power of this storm.  My friend's brother in Stamford,
 CT has his  home under water.  In my lifetime I have never seen
 anything this devastating and widespread.


 How are things in DC, Andrew?

 Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Hurricane update from Northern NJ

2012-11-01 Thread Dan Penoff
We are fortunate to live in a newer area, in which all of the hurricane codes 
resulting from Andrew were in place. As a result, when the three hurricanes 
passed through in the early 2000s, the interruption, if any, was minimal. It's 
amazing how little the changes were in residential construction and how much 
difference they made in the integrity of the homes built with the revised 
hurricane codes.

All of our infrastructure is underground, so no power outages or loss of 
Internet/cable/phone.

When you consider that the area where this hurricane hit is relatively 
unchanged (residential areas, that is) for easily 50 years or more, it's easy 
to comprehend why services will take so long to restore.

I hope they don't allow construction on the barrier islands, as they will be 
damaged or disappear again. Consider that these areas can only be insured 
through the Federal flood insurance program, meaning that we, as taxpayers, 
cover the losses...

Dan

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On Nov 1, 2012, at 4:08 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

 We got between 5 and 6 inches of rain betwewen Sunday at 6 pm and
 Tuesday morining, accompanied by wind gusts to 60 mph.  The entire DC
 metropolitan area was basically shut down for 2 days (Monday and
 Tuesday) but mercifully there was little wind damage in our
 neighborhood.  This may be as a result of the violent derecho storm in
 late June that ripped out huge numbers of mature, weakened trees.  Our
 power went out twice on Monday, the scond time for 3 hours, but that
 caused miniscule hardship in comparison to what others suffered.  The
 local utility (Pepco) was able to plan in advance and request crews
 from other parts of the region (1800 workers) which helped speed up
 reconnection times.
 
 On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:
 On 01/11/2012 2:55 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:
 
 Sounds grim.  The photo of the NJ roller coaster (formerly on dry
 land) that's now resting offshore in the lapping ocean is a vivid
 display of the power of this storm.  My friend's brother in Stamford,
 CT has his  home under water.  In my lifetime I have never seen
 anything this devastating and widespread.
 How are things in DC, Andrew?
 
 Randy
 
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Re: [MBZ] Hurricane update from Northern NJ

2012-11-01 Thread Rick Knoble

 Its quite sad here.

Thank you for your report. Our prayers are with you.

Ditto. 

Rick
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[MBZ] my 240D mostly rust repair blog

2012-11-01 Thread Dimitri Seretakis







Enjoy and please comment on the blog to generate some activity!

http://stricht8.wordpress.com/I created this blog to document repairs to my 
cars, mostly rust repairs.  The hood repair you've already seen but now I've 
included another door repair.  I did one three years ago as some may recall.
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Re: [MBZ] my 240D mostly rust repair blog

2012-11-01 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Well that didn't work.  I'll try again:
 
I created this blog to document repair to my cars-mostly rust repairs.  The 
hood repair you've seen.  My most recent posts document another door repair.  
Enjoy and please post comment on the blog to demonstrate activity.
 
http://stricht8.wordpress.com



From: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 7:38 PM
Subject: [MBZ] my 240D mostly rust repair blog








Enjoy and please comment on the blog to generate some activity!

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included another door repair.  I did one three years ago as some may recall.
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Re: [MBZ] Bio-Diesel

2012-11-01 Thread clay monroe
Must be a common error then.  Same sort of troubles no matter which processor 
made it.  I have the choice of four in town.

clay

On Nov 1, 2012, at 5:51 AM, Max Dillon wrote:

 Sounds to me like your bio diesel predecessor left methanol in the mix...
 -- 
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '95 E300
 '87 300TD
 
 clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Viton is not impervious to B100.  I have had to do DV twice on both
 Gump and E300D.  Return lines have disintegrated as well as lines from
 the tank.  Cigar hoses 2x.  Valve cover on E300D turned to mush because
 the hoses leaked into the valve head and I had to suck 0.5 gal out of
 there.  O-rings for fuel filters went south twice.  Filler neck gasket
 melted.  
 
 Injectors got gunked up with melted rubber hose bits.  
 
 
 
 On Oct 30, 2012, at 5:02 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
 
 Delivery valve seals and hoses could be replaced with viton. Problem
 solved except for injectors. What injector issues arise?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 30, 2012, at 7:48 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net
 wrote:
 
 Do not run B100.  It will eat your rubber parts and destroy your
 pocketbook.  IP DV seals, injectors, fuel tank and hoses.  B20 is the
 strongest I would advise.  Much over B5 does not increase the benefit
 to the engine or cleaning up gunk.   Put a gallon in your tank from a 5
 gallon container when you fill up.
 
 B5 also gives you the mileage you expect while increasing cetane. 
 Not enough BTU in higher concentrations to improve power or MPG.  It
 runs just as quiet at B2 as with more.  You could run veggie oil for
 the same impact on cetane and smoothness
 
 clay
 
 
 On Oct 30, 2012, at 4:39 PM, Jon Agne wrote:
 
 I stopped by there today on my way back from NYC (story in itself). 
 They have two blends, B5 and B100.  The B100 pump is around back, drive
 around the left side and back into it.  The guys are very helpful, and
 they mentioned to me that they get from Mainehmmm.
 
 The car did seem to run smoother/quieter, and I did not notice any
 difference in performance.
 
 
 On Oct 30, 2012, at 12:54 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
 
 The owner is a bit odd but the guys working there are nice. Did they
 say when the BD pump will be turned off?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 30, 2012, at 12:18 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
 It was indeed the one in Acton (barely, nearly in Concord...)
 
 Nice place, doing a very brisk trade in gasoline when I was there.
 
 -Curt
 
 Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 11:43:00 -0400
 From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bio-Diesel
 Message-ID: d8b20cbc-7572-421d-8266-3d09cefa3...@gwi.net
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 
 I may try the Acton station on the way home.if I can get off of
 Long Island.
 
 
 On Oct 30, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
 
 Where is this station? Is it the one in Acton?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 27, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
 Finally found a bio-diesel pump in my area, put 7 gallons (all it
 would take) of B100 into my '78 240D yesterday.
 
 Before I could get back on the highway I noticed the engine was
 quieter, just like what happens with a quart of engine oil in the fuel.
 I think this is due to the increased lubricity of bioD. Its been about
 75 miles now and aside from the quietness I'm seeing the flat spot in
 the beginning of the throttle go away for which I'm very grateful. When
 I first got the car it would go away if I ran a LOT of Diesel Kleen in
 the tank but thats an expensive way to deal with the issue. I'm also
 seeing better first gear performance, easier takeoff I mean.
 
 I *think* something had gotten gummy in the IP. I did a does of
 Diesel Purge last summer and things were better for awhile but the
 frustrations returned. Of course I commuted with the car 110 miles a
 day all last week which surely helped but I'm well pleased with this.
 Also the Bio-Diesel I bought was only about $0.06 more expensive than
 the cheapest diesel I can find. I wish it was more convenient to my
 house, I'd use consistently. As it is I plan to fill up there on
 Fridays for awhile to let the bioD do its work.
 
 -Curt
 
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Re: [MBZ] Bio-Diesel

2012-11-01 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
I've never had those problems.  Where did you get the BD?  Coops that make the 
homebrew stuff might have lots of methanol in the fuel.  I believe that 
methanol creates a lot of the rubber issues.  I always get mine at a reputable 
gas station.




From: clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bio-Diesel

Must be a common error then.  Same sort of troubles no matter which processor 
made it.  I have the choice of four in town.

clay

On Nov 1, 2012, at 5:51 AM, Max Dillon wrote:

 Sounds to me like your bio diesel predecessor left methanol in the mix...
 -- 
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '95 E300
 '87 300TD
 
 clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Viton is not impervious to B100.  I have had to do DV twice on both
 Gump and E300D.  Return lines have disintegrated as well as lines from
 the tank.  Cigar hoses 2x.  Valve cover on E300D turned to mush because
 the hoses leaked into the valve head and I had to suck 0.5 gal out of
 there.  O-rings for fuel filters went south twice.  Filler neck gasket
 melted.  
 
 Injectors got gunked up with melted rubber hose bits.  
 
 
 
 On Oct 30, 2012, at 5:02 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
 
 Delivery valve seals and hoses could be replaced with viton. Problem
 solved except for injectors. What injector issues arise?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 30, 2012, at 7:48 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net
 wrote:
 
 Do not run B100.  It will eat your rubber parts and destroy your
 pocketbook.  IP DV seals, injectors, fuel tank and hoses.  B20 is the
 strongest I would advise.  Much over B5 does not increase the benefit
 to the engine or cleaning up gunk.  Put a gallon in your tank from a 5
 gallon container when you fill up.
 
 B5 also gives you the mileage you expect while increasing cetane. 
 Not enough BTU in higher concentrations to improve power or MPG.  It
 runs just as quiet at B2 as with more.  You could run veggie oil for
 the same impact on cetane and smoothness
 
 clay
 
 
 On Oct 30, 2012, at 4:39 PM, Jon Agne wrote:
 
 I stopped by there today on my way back from NYC (story in itself). 
 They have two blends, B5 and B100.  The B100 pump is around back, drive
 around the left side and back into it.  The guys are very helpful, and
 they mentioned to me that they get from Mainehmmm.
 
 The car did seem to run smoother/quieter, and I did not notice any
 difference in performance.
 
 
 On Oct 30, 2012, at 12:54 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
 
 The owner is a bit odd but the guys working there are nice. Did they
 say when the BD pump will be turned off?
 
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 On Oct 30, 2012, at 12:18 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
 It was indeed the one in Acton (barely, nearly in Concord...)
 
 Nice place, doing a very brisk trade in gasoline when I was there.
 
 -Curt
 
 Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 11:43:00 -0400
 From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bio-Diesel
 Message-ID: d8b20cbc-7572-421d-8266-3d09cefa3...@gwi.net
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
 
 I may try the Acton station on the way home.if I can get off of
 Long Island.
 
 
 On Oct 30, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
 
 Where is this station? Is it the one in Acton?
 
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 On Oct 27, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
 Finally found a bio-diesel pump in my area, put 7 gallons (all it
 would take) of B100 into my '78 240D yesterday.
 
 Before I could get back on the highway I noticed the engine was
 quieter, just like what happens with a quart of engine oil in the fuel.
 I think this is due to the increased lubricity of bioD. Its been about
 75 miles now and aside from the quietness I'm seeing the flat spot in
 the beginning of the throttle go away for which I'm very grateful. When
 I first got the car it would go away if I ran a LOT of Diesel Kleen in
 the tank but thats an expensive way to deal with the issue. I'm also
 seeing better first gear performance, easier takeoff I mean.
 
 I *think* something had gotten gummy in the IP. I did a does of
 Diesel Purge last summer and things were better for awhile but the
 frustrations returned. Of course I commuted with the car 110 miles a
 day all last week which surely helped but I'm well pleased with this.
 Also the Bio-Diesel I bought was only about $0.06 more expensive than
 the cheapest diesel I can find. I wish it was more convenient to my
 house, I'd use consistently. As it is I plan to fill up there on
 Fridays for awhile to let the bioD do its work.
 
 -Curt
 
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Re: [MBZ] Part numbers

2012-11-01 Thread Mountain Man
Q wrote:
 I can tell you
 that it is made by MTC which is a well known aftermarket company and not
 Genuine Mercedes.

 It would definitely be a Genuine
 Mercedes item and I sell it for $68.00.

And...
Folks - this is why our list sponsor is loved.
NAPA supplies the MTC chinee part - blew apart after 4 hours of use.
Replacements were supplied, which we glued and hope will be good for a
while.
You don't see pictures of these part numbers to compare?
Thanks.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Bio-Diesel

2012-11-01 Thread Tim C
  Viton is not impervious to B100.  I have had to do DV twice on both
  Gump and E300D.  Return lines have disintegrated as well as lines from
  the tank.  Cigar hoses 2x.  Valve cover on E300D turned to mush because
  the hoses leaked into the valve head and I had to suck 0.5 gal out of
  there.  O-rings for fuel filters went south twice.  Filler neck gasket
  melted.

Over ten years in Seattle, replacing rubber twice per car (I assume once
early in that time) does not seem like that much to me, regardless of
fuel.  Am I missing something?

Valve cover is weird.  But I thought rubber had a 5-10 year service life in
the southeast, where we only have minor weather.

Best,
Tim
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Re: [MBZ] Bio-Diesel

2012-11-01 Thread clay monroe
Swapped out known old rubber with initial fluid and filter change, so yes, 
early on failure.  I was intent on using as much BioD as I could, so first 
failure was a big bummer.  Must have been old stock hose, or too many batches 
of poor fuel.  Got fresh hose with the same troubles.  I guess dealership and 
Rusty must be stocking chinese garbage, instead of real fuel lines and rubber 
bits.  But that is crazy talk.

Refiners here are not small, unless you count 5-100 million gallons a year as 
small.  If they make a bad batch, it would be a large one.

clay


On Nov 1, 2012, at 5:57 PM, Tim C wrote:

 Viton is not impervious to B100.  I have had to do DV twice on both
 Gump and E300D.  Return lines have disintegrated as well as lines from
 the tank.  Cigar hoses 2x.  Valve cover on E300D turned to mush because
 the hoses leaked into the valve head and I had to suck 0.5 gal out of
 there.  O-rings for fuel filters went south twice.  Filler neck gasket
 melted.
 
 Over ten years in Seattle, replacing rubber twice per car (I assume once
 early in that time) does not seem like that much to me, regardless of
 fuel.  Am I missing something?
 
 Valve cover is weird.  But I thought rubber had a 5-10 year service life in
 the southeast, where we only have minor weather.
 
 Best,
 Tim
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Re: [MBZ] Part numbers

2012-11-01 Thread buymbparts

Is this good for me or bad for me? Remember, I do not make parts, I sell them. 
I can get any GENUINE MERCEDES part to you for less than ANYONE else in the US. 
ANYONE. Make a note. I only have 36 years experience. I am a rookie.


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Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 19:18:11 
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Part numbers

Q wrote:
 I can tell you
 that it is made by MTC which is a well known aftermarket company and not
 Genuine Mercedes.

 It would definitely be a Genuine
 Mercedes item and I sell it for $68.00.

And...
Folks - this is why our list sponsor is loved.
NAPA supplies the MTC chinee part - blew apart after 4 hours of use.
Replacements were supplied, which we glued and hope will be good for a
while.
You don't see pictures of these part numbers to compare?
Thanks.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Part numbers

2012-11-01 Thread Jon Agne
Yes.and that is why you have my order.  You get it.



On Nov 1, 2012, at 6:29 PM, buymbpa...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 Is this good for me or bad for me? Remember, I do not make parts, I sell 
 them. I can get any GENUINE MERCEDES part to you for less than ANYONE else in 
 the US. ANYONE. Make a note. I only have 36 years experience. I am a rookie.
 
 
 Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com
 Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
 Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 19:18:11 
 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com
 Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Part numbers
 
 Q wrote:
 I can tell you
 that it is made by MTC which is a well known aftermarket company and not
 Genuine Mercedes.
 
 It would definitely be a Genuine
 Mercedes item and I sell it for $68.00.
 
 And...
 Folks - this is why our list sponsor is loved.
 NAPA supplies the MTC chinee part - blew apart after 4 hours of use.
 Replacements were supplied, which we glued and hope will be good for a
 while.
 You don't see pictures of these part numbers to compare?
 Thanks.
 mao
 
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