Re: [MBZ] Cold weather starting.

2013-01-24 Thread Jon Agne
Philip,

Thanks for the flexing ideaI was trying to take the other side out first.  
I took a photo of the hood release mechanism.  I'll see if I can figure out how 
to post.

Jon


On Jan 23, 2013, at 4:19 PM, Fmiser wrote:

>> Jon Agne wrote:
> 
>> I went to plug in
>> the block heater last night, and the hood release would not
>> move.
> 
> I have the plug situated _outside_ so the hood stays closed when
> plugged in.  The plastic cap over the contacts keeps it
> relatively clean and dry.
> 
>> There must be some secret to removing the
>> kickpanel under the steering wheelseems caught over by the
>> heater duct.
> 
> Yup.  The secret is to flex the panel.  I get the end by the
> transmission tunnel out first/in last.
> 
> --   Philip
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Re: [MBZ] Cold weather starting.

2013-01-24 Thread Jon Agne
Dimitri.

My thermometer is reading -4F.  Hope your block heater works!

Jon


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> My 240D started in 2 degree weather this am up in Maine! That's the coldest 
> I've ever tried to start a diesel.  Tomorrow am will be colder so I'll plug 
> in the block heater.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Cold weather starting.

2013-01-24 Thread Curt Raymond
Yup, protectent wax for the pads of his feet. Seems to help some but down in 
single digits probably nothing helps all that much. I've never tried shoes on 
him, he's pretty tolerant, might take to them, probably just easier to stay 
inside when its real cold out.

-Curt

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On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 13:53:49 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond
 wrote:

> About the same here, the dog really wanted to go for a walk. I took him
> but he walked funny the whole way. I could tell his paws were bothered.
> That was even after I put paw wax on him.

Paw wax?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Cold weather starting.

2013-01-24 Thread dseretakis
Not sure if block heater worked but it started after three cranks!  I ended up 
getting gelled up on 295 just outside of Portland. I dumped a half quart of 
PowerService Diesel 911 and it started right up! That stuff is amazing!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 24, 2013, at 7:23 AM, Jon Agne  wrote:

> Dimitri.
> 
> My thermometer is reading -4F.  Hope your block heater works!
> 
> Jon
> 
> 
> On Jan 23, 2013, at 9:26 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
> 
>> My 240D started in 2 degree weather this am up in Maine! That's the coldest 
>> I've ever tried to start a diesel.  Tomorrow am will be colder so I'll plug 
>> in the block heater.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Cold weather starting.

2013-01-24 Thread Randy Bennell

On 23/01/2013 10:41 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

13.6 Canadian degrees inside, 13.6 US degrees outside.

On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Randy Bennell  wrote:

Inside your house?

Randy




Are you sure about that?

We have our thermostat set to keep the inside of the house at 21.5.
IF you are at 13.6, it must be a bit chilly in there.

On a similar point, I noted this morning, because I have been watching 
the temps in Hawaii since our visit there and in Ottawa where my elder 
son resides, that:


The forecast for Honolulu was 27 and 19 while the forecast for Ottawa 
was -27 and -19.


I think I prefer the Honolulu version.

Randy in Winnipeg where we may actually warm up a bit this weekend

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Re: [MBZ] OT dogs and cold

2013-01-24 Thread Randy Bennell

On 24/01/2013 8:50 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:

Yup, protectent wax for the pads of his feet. Seems to help some but down in 
single digits probably nothing helps all that much. I've never tried shoes on 
him, he's pretty tolerant, might take to them, probably just easier to stay 
inside when its real cold out.

-Curt


I see some around here using booties made from polar fleece with velcro 
to keep them tight to the dog's leg.
Have not tried it with Ben. i guess we should have done so when he was a 
pup as he is not all that tolerant of things now.
We used to put a coat on him but he does not like that either. I guess 
we did not train him well enough with it when he was younger.

Hard to do though as most of the time it is not needed.
He does not even wear a collar unless he is going for a walk so has 
become intolerant of it too.

He wants it removed as soon as we get back inside our yard.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Cold weather starting.

2013-01-24 Thread dseretakis
That's 56.4 degrees. Warmer than I keep my house! Oil is expensive.

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On Jan 24, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Randy Bennell  wrote:

> On 23/01/2013 10:41 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>> 13.6 Canadian degrees inside, 13.6 US degrees outside.
>> 
>> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Randy Bennell  wrote:
>>> Inside your house?
>>> 
>>> Randy
> Are you sure about that?
> 
> We have our thermostat set to keep the inside of the house at 21.5.
> IF you are at 13.6, it must be a bit chilly in there.
> 
> On a similar point, I noted this morning, because I have been watching the 
> temps in Hawaii since our visit there and in Ottawa where my elder son 
> resides, that:
> 
> The forecast for Honolulu was 27 and 19 while the forecast for Ottawa was -27 
> and -19.
> 
> I think I prefer the Honolulu version.
> 
> Randy in Winnipeg where we may actually warm up a bit this weekend
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Cold weather issues

2013-01-24 Thread Randy Bennell

Yes, unfortunately heating oil has become expensive.
I don't think I would enjoy 56 F inside.

You might want to consider other means of keeping warm.
For example, close off all but the rooms you need and insulate them 
really well and heat just the area you need.

My sister and her first husband lived in a 2500 Sq foot house built in 1912.
They quickly discovered that they did not want to afford to heat it 
properly.
They had a room on the 2nd floor that had been a bedroom but had been 
converted to a small family room with a wood fireplace by the previous 
owners.
They essentially lived in there most of the winter using the wood 
fireplace to increase the heat in that room.
They had a waterbed with its own heat source of course so they could 
stand the bedroom being fairly cool.

Activity in the kitchen meant they could usually manage their too.
I don't recall what they did with the bath but I assume they maybe had a 
small electric heater they could use to warm the room before having a 
bath. Small room so not too difficult to warm up somewhat.


My house is relatively new having been built in 1981. It has 2X6 studs 
in the walls so room for reasonably good levels of insulation and about 
2 foot thick insulation in the attic. We have replaced most of the 
windows with better units and it is fairly easy to heat.

It is 1800 sq feet on 2 floors - not including the basement.
I think our heating cost is running about $78 per month on natural gas - 
and the furnace is original and not one of the new higher efficiency models.


Randy


On 24/01/2013 10:42 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

That's 56.4 degrees. Warmer than I keep my house! Oil is expensive.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 24, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Randy Bennell  wrote:


On 23/01/2013 10:41 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

13.6 Canadian degrees inside, 13.6 US degrees outside.

On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Randy Bennell  wrote:

Inside your house?

Randy

Are you sure about that?

We have our thermostat set to keep the inside of the house at 21.5.
IF you are at 13.6, it must be a bit chilly in there.

On a similar point, I noted this morning, because I have been watching the 
temps in Hawaii since our visit there and in Ottawa where my elder son resides, 
that:

The forecast for Honolulu was 27 and 19 while the forecast for Ottawa was -27 
and -19.

I think I prefer the Honolulu version.

Randy in Winnipeg where we may actually warm up a bit this weekend

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[MBZ] OT: Laptop info needed

2013-01-24 Thread M G
OK my turn to go off talking about MBs.

My laptop crumped. It was an Asus G1 and has served well for a long time. I 
have another newer laptop that I absolutely hate as it has win7 and will not 
allow XP Pro to be installed. It is an HP G60-635DX and nowhere can I find any 
drivers for XP or any instructions on how to go about doing the dirty deed.
Yes I know that linux of some flavor or another may be installable but I have 
some older programs that require no later then XP in order to run. No I don't 
want to run XP in a virtual machine under linux or win7 as that is to me just 
too cumbersome.

My thought is to see if anyone knows of a laptop that I can look for that has 
drivers for XP and will allow XP to be installed. I would prefer one that runs 
at 2+ ghz, has all the normal plugin possibilities, and will take a 6 gig drive 
or bigger. I don't need a huge screen and don't really like the keyboards that 
have a numeric keypad added in the right of the normal keyboard as I don't use 
it and it puts the keyboard off center and it feels wrong. 

So there it is. I would be grateful for any suggestions.

Manfred

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Laptop info needed

2013-01-24 Thread Randy Bennell

On 24/01/2013 11:00 AM, M G wrote:

OK my turn to go off talking about MBs.

My laptop crumped. It was an Asus G1 and has served well for a long time. I 
have another newer laptop that I absolutely hate as it has win7 and will not 
allow XP Pro to be installed. It is an HP G60-635DX and nowhere can I find any 
drivers for XP or any instructions on how to go about doing the dirty deed.
Yes I know that linux of some flavor or another may be installable but I have 
some older programs that require no later then XP in order to run. No I don't 
want to run XP in a virtual machine under linux or win7 as that is to me just 
too cumbersome.

My thought is to see if anyone knows of a laptop that I can look for that has 
drivers for XP and will allow XP to be installed. I would prefer one that runs 
at 2+ ghz, has all the normal plugin possibilities, and will take a 6 gig drive 
or bigger. I don't need a huge screen and don't really like the keyboards that 
have a numeric keypad added in the right of the normal keyboard as I don't use 
it and it puts the keyboard off center and it feels wrong.

So there it is. I would be grateful for any suggestions.

Manfred

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How about upgrading the version of Win7 to Pro?
I have not done so, but I am told that the older programs can be run 
under Win7 if one has the correct version.


I would truly like to know if it is true, as there is one old program 
that I want to use too.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Laptop info needed

2013-01-24 Thread Tim C
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Randy Bennell  wrote:

> How about upgrading the version of Win7 to Pro?
> I have not done so, but I am told that the older programs can be run under
> Win7 if one has the correct version.
>

I did not know it was linked to "Pro" [only version I have] but it is true
that there is a compatibility mode; in some cases it is even automatic.  It
works pretty well, except for some rogue programs that are defined to look
in random places. (I had one Windows 98 program that was looking in an odd
place for a file, I don't even remember what it was but just something to
keep in mind.)

If you mention a program name I can maybe try it out?

I have found 7 to run significantly faster, on the same hardware as XP.

Thanks,
-Tim
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Laptop info needed

2013-01-24 Thread Randy Bennell


On 24/01/2013 11:38 AM, Tim C wrote:

On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Randy Bennell  wrote:


How about upgrading the version of Win7 to Pro?
I have not done so, but I am told that the older programs can be run under
Win7 if one has the correct version.


I did not know it was linked to "Pro" [only version I have] but it is true
that there is a compatibility mode; in some cases it is even automatic.  It
works pretty well, except for some rogue programs that are defined to look
in random places. (I had one Windows 98 program that was looking in an odd
place for a file, I don't even remember what it was but just something to
keep in mind.)

If you mention a program name I can maybe try it out?

I have found 7 to run significantly faster, on the same hardware as XP.

Thanks,
-Tim
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The program I was using was Omniform 5.1 version if I recall correctly.

I cannot buy a new version as the company got bought up by Nuance (again 
if I recall correctly).
They have rolled it into some other program and although I have bought a 
couple of versions of it, I have never been able to make it work like 
the old one did.
I don't know if that is just me and I have not given it enough effort or 
what but it is frustrating as the old version was useful.
I could scan an existing paper form and turn it into a document that I 
could fill in the blanks on and print.

Useful for a lawyer.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] OT Cold weather issues

2013-01-24 Thread dseretakis
$78 is amazing! My place in Maine was built in 1899, it's only partially 
insulated, has three levels and its 3800 sq. ft. Costs me $800 per month in oil 
during the winter months and I keep it at 54 or lower!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 24, 2013, at 11:59 AM, Randy Bennell  wrote:

> Yes, unfortunately heating oil has become expensive.
> I don't think I would enjoy 56 F inside.
> 
> You might want to consider other means of keeping warm.
> For example, close off all but the rooms you need and insulate them really 
> well and heat just the area you need.
> My sister and her first husband lived in a 2500 Sq foot house built in 1912.
> They quickly discovered that they did not want to afford to heat it properly.
> They had a room on the 2nd floor that had been a bedroom but had been 
> converted to a small family room with a wood fireplace by the previous owners.
> They essentially lived in there most of the winter using the wood fireplace 
> to increase the heat in that room.
> They had a waterbed with its own heat source of course so they could stand 
> the bedroom being fairly cool.
> Activity in the kitchen meant they could usually manage their too.
> I don't recall what they did with the bath but I assume they maybe had a 
> small electric heater they could use to warm the room before having a bath. 
> Small room so not too difficult to warm up somewhat.
> 
> My house is relatively new having been built in 1981. It has 2X6 studs in the 
> walls so room for reasonably good levels of insulation and about 2 foot thick 
> insulation in the attic. We have replaced most of the windows with better 
> units and it is fairly easy to heat.
> It is 1800 sq feet on 2 floors - not including the basement.
> I think our heating cost is running about $78 per month on natural gas - and 
> the furnace is original and not one of the new higher efficiency models.
> 
> Randy
> 
> 
> On 24/01/2013 10:42 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> That's 56.4 degrees. Warmer than I keep my house! Oil is expensive.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jan 24, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Randy Bennell  wrote:
>> 
>>> On 23/01/2013 10:41 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
 13.6 Canadian degrees inside, 13.6 US degrees outside.
 
 On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Randy Bennell  
 wrote:
> Inside your house?
> 
> Randy
>>> Are you sure about that?
>>> 
>>> We have our thermostat set to keep the inside of the house at 21.5.
>>> IF you are at 13.6, it must be a bit chilly in there.
>>> 
>>> On a similar point, I noted this morning, because I have been watching the 
>>> temps in Hawaii since our visit there and in Ottawa where my elder son 
>>> resides, that:
>>> 
>>> The forecast for Honolulu was 27 and 19 while the forecast for Ottawa was 
>>> -27 and -19.
>>> 
>>> I think I prefer the Honolulu version.
>>> 
>>> Randy in Winnipeg where we may actually warm up a bit this weekend
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Cold weather issues

2013-01-24 Thread Randy Bennell

You need a smaller space to heat and more insualtion.

Randy


On 24/01/2013 1:42 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

$78 is amazing! My place in Maine was built in 1899, it's only partially 
insulated, has three levels and its 3800 sq. ft. Costs me $800 per month in oil 
during the winter months and I keep it at 54 or lower!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 24, 2013, at 11:59 AM, Randy Bennell  wrote:


Yes, unfortunately heating oil has become expensive.
I don't think I would enjoy 56 F inside.

You might want to consider other means of keeping warm.
For example, close off all but the rooms you need and insulate them really well 
and heat just the area you need.
My sister and her first husband lived in a 2500 Sq foot house built in 1912.
They quickly discovered that they did not want to afford to heat it properly.
They had a room on the 2nd floor that had been a bedroom but had been converted 
to a small family room with a wood fireplace by the previous owners.
They essentially lived in there most of the winter using the wood fireplace to 
increase the heat in that room.
They had a waterbed with its own heat source of course so they could stand the 
bedroom being fairly cool.
Activity in the kitchen meant they could usually manage their too.
I don't recall what they did with the bath but I assume they maybe had a small 
electric heater they could use to warm the room before having a bath. Small 
room so not too difficult to warm up somewhat.

My house is relatively new having been built in 1981. It has 2X6 studs in the 
walls so room for reasonably good levels of insulation and about 2 foot thick 
insulation in the attic. We have replaced most of the windows with better units 
and it is fairly easy to heat.
It is 1800 sq feet on 2 floors - not including the basement.
I think our heating cost is running about $78 per month on natural gas - and 
the furnace is original and not one of the new higher efficiency models.

Randy


On 24/01/2013 10:42 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

That's 56.4 degrees. Warmer than I keep my house! Oil is expensive.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 24, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Randy Bennell  wrote:


On 23/01/2013 10:41 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

13.6 Canadian degrees inside, 13.6 US degrees outside.

On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Randy Bennell  wrote:

Inside your house?

Randy

Are you sure about that?

We have our thermostat set to keep the inside of the house at 21.5.
IF you are at 13.6, it must be a bit chilly in there.

On a similar point, I noted this morning, because I have been watching the 
temps in Hawaii since our visit there and in Ottawa where my elder son resides, 
that:

The forecast for Honolulu was 27 and 19 while the forecast for Ottawa was -27 
and -19.

I think I prefer the Honolulu version.

Randy in Winnipeg where we may actually warm up a bit this weekend

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Re: [MBZ] Cold weather starting.

2013-01-24 Thread Curt Raymond
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 10:26:19 -0600
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On 23/01/2013 10:41 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> 13.6 Canadian degrees inside, 13.6 US degrees outside.
>
> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Randy Bennell  wrote:
>> Inside your house?
>>
>> Randy
>>
>>
>>
Are you sure about that?

>We have our thermostat set to keep the inside of the house at 21.5.
>IF you are at 13.6, it must be a bit chilly in there.

>On a similar point, I noted this morning, because I have been watching 
>the temps in Hawaii since our visit there and in Ottawa where my elder 
>son resides, that:

>The forecast for Honolulu was 27 and 19 while the forecast for Ottawa 
>was -27 and -19.

>I think I prefer the Honolulu version.

>Randy in Winnipeg where we may actually warm up a bit this weekend

Actually I'd say you keep your house on the warm side, we set ours more like 
18C and occasionally let it dip as low as 16.6C

-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Laptop info needed

2013-01-24 Thread Fmiser
> Randy Bennell wrote:

> The program I was using was Omniform 5.1 version if I recall
> correctly.
 
> I could scan an existing paper form and turn it into a
> document that I could fill in the blanks on and print.

Inkscape can do that.  The scanned document is a bitmap.
Inkscape can load that and then text can be put on top.

It's free as in "free pizza" and free as in "freedom".  I know
there are a Mac, MSWin, and Linux ports.

--Philip

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[MBZ] Worn rear tires

2013-01-24 Thread Curt Raymond
I noticed today that my '84 190D is excessively wearing the inside edge of the 
rear tires.
I've had all the rear links done and the shocks are new too, all parts from Q.
I presume theres still something worn in the rear, an alignment was done after 
the links were replaced. Looking at the car it doesn't seem like the tires tip 
in but I suppose they must be.

Any common suspects?

-Curt

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[MBZ] Drivers mirror swap from 201 to 124?

2013-01-24 Thread Curt Raymond
I hate to intrude on your off topic discussions ;)

A list member was in need of a mirror for a 124, I have one from a 201 that 
looks like it ought to fit. Before I ship it to him is anybody aware of any 
reason it shouldn't? It came off an '85 190D.

-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Drivers mirror swap from 201 to 124?

2013-01-24 Thread Rusty Cullens
Yes, it is the same.

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Subject: [MBZ] Drivers mirror swap from 201 to 124?

I hate to intrude on your off topic discussions ;)

A list member was in need of a mirror for a 124, I have one from a 201 that
looks like it ought to fit. Before I ship it to him is anybody aware of any
reason it shouldn't? It came off an '85 190D.

-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Worn rear tires

2013-01-24 Thread Randy Bennell

On 24/01/2013 3:13 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

I noticed today that my '84 190D is excessively wearing the inside edge of the 
rear tires.
I've had all the rear links done and the shocks are new too, all parts from Q.
I presume theres still something worn in the rear, an alignment was done after 
the links were replaced. Looking at the car it doesn't seem like the tires tip 
in but I suppose they must be.

Any common suspects?

-Curt

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[MBZ] MORE OT - Japanese Senior Citizens?

2013-01-24 Thread Randy Bennell
So, there was a political cartoon in the local paper today depicting a 
couple of Japanese citizens seeking refugee status in Canada on the 
basis that they were senior citizens from  Japan.


It does not ring any bells with me. Did I miss something?
Are senior citizens not treated well in Japan?

I did a quick online search and the only things I came up with seem to 
indicate that Japan has a lot of older people and the life expectancy is 
very high.
Nothing to indicate any recent news items on the subject that I saw on 
my minimal search.


Randy

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[MBZ] Kangol Belts

2013-01-24 Thread clay monroe
http://www.ebay.com/itm/290846745132?item=290846745132&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME:X:AAQ:MOTORS:1123&vxp=mtr

probably should have put this up sooner, but did not expect action first posting

clay
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[MBZ] Hover Benz

2013-01-24 Thread clay monroe
http://www.dvice.com/archives/2013/01/photographer-im.php

clay 


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Re: [MBZ] OT Cold weather issues

2013-01-24 Thread Brian Toscano
The lack of insulation makes for old house charm. :-)

Back then fiber glass didn't exist.  In some rural areas, houses were
clapboard siding, studs, and tongue and groove or simply pine boards on the
inside with a tin roof.  Exterior clapboards may never have been painted.
 Wood stove inside, possibly serving double duty as a stove.  The ground
level floor could have been supported with slabbed tree trunks, leveled
with a bottle.



On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Randy Bennell  wrote:

> You need a smaller space to heat and more insualtion.
>
> Randy
>
>
>
> On 24/01/2013 1:42 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> $78 is amazing! My place in Maine was built in 1899, it's only partially
>> insulated, has three levels and its 3800 sq. ft. Costs me $800 per month in
>> oil during the winter months and I keep it at 54 or lower!
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 24, 2013, at 11:59 AM, Randy Bennell  wrote:
>>
>>  Yes, unfortunately heating oil has become expensive.
>>> I don't think I would enjoy 56 F inside.
>>>
>>> You might want to consider other means of keeping warm.
>>> For example, close off all but the rooms you need and insulate them
>>> really well and heat just the area you need.
>>> My sister and her first husband lived in a 2500 Sq foot house built in
>>> 1912.
>>> They quickly discovered that they did not want to afford to heat it
>>> properly.
>>> They had a room on the 2nd floor that had been a bedroom but had been
>>> converted to a small family room with a wood fireplace by the previous
>>> owners.
>>> They essentially lived in there most of the winter using the wood
>>> fireplace to increase the heat in that room.
>>> They had a waterbed with its own heat source of course so they could
>>> stand the bedroom being fairly cool.
>>> Activity in the kitchen meant they could usually manage their too.
>>> I don't recall what they did with the bath but I assume they maybe had a
>>> small electric heater they could use to warm the room before having a bath.
>>> Small room so not too difficult to warm up somewhat.
>>>
>>> My house is relatively new having been built in 1981. It has 2X6 studs
>>> in the walls so room for reasonably good levels of insulation and about 2
>>> foot thick insulation in the attic. We have replaced most of the windows
>>> with better units and it is fairly easy to heat.
>>> It is 1800 sq feet on 2 floors - not including the basement.
>>> I think our heating cost is running about $78 per month on natural gas -
>>> and the furnace is original and not one of the new higher efficiency models.
>>>
>>> Randy
>>>
>>>
>>> On 24/01/2013 10:42 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>
 That's 56.4 degrees. Warmer than I keep my house! Oil is expensive.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 24, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Randy Bennell 
 wrote:

  On 23/01/2013 10:41 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>
>> 13.6 Canadian degrees inside, 13.6 US degrees outside.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Randy Bennell 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Inside your house?
>>>
>>> Randy
>>>
>> Are you sure about that?
>
> We have our thermostat set to keep the inside of the house at 21.5.
> IF you are at 13.6, it must be a bit chilly in there.
>
> On a similar point, I noted this morning, because I have been watching
> the temps in Hawaii since our visit there and in Ottawa where my elder son
> resides, that:
>
> The forecast for Honolulu was 27 and 19 while the forecast for Ottawa
> was -27 and -19.
>
> I think I prefer the Honolulu version.
>
> Randy in Winnipeg where we may actually warm up a bit this weekend
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Cold weather issues

2013-01-24 Thread Curt Raymond
I put $300 of fiberglass insulation into our attic in September. For the past 6 
years we've filled the oil tank the first week in September, this year we 
filled it yesterday...

Its nice to see payback for the work...

The insulation I put in is only phase 1 of what was a 3 phase project that will 
take us to about R45. After that we need to see about replacing a few of the 
least efficient windows in the house. Next winter I'm thinking about running 
foam boards around the base of the house. We supplement our oil heat with a 
woodstove in the basement of our 1 story house and I'm sure we're wasting some 
of that heat out the base of the house.

-Curt

Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 14:35:54 -0600
From: Randy Bennell 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Cold weather issues
Message-ID: <51019b2a.50...@bennell.ca>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

You need a smaller space to heat and more insualtion.

Randy


On 24/01/2013 1:42 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
> $78 is amazing! My place in Maine was built in 1899, it's only partially 
> insulated, has three levels and its 3800 sq. ft. Costs me $800 per month in 
> oil during the winter months and I keep it at 54 or lower!
>
> Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] Drivers mirror swap from 201 to 124?

2013-01-24 Thread Curt Raymond
As usual sir you are a wonder.

I'll be contacting you soon with my regular tithe, found a rear caliper which 
isn't moving. You aren't thinking about putting 201 calipers on sale are you? I 
seem to have an innate ability to predict your sales by buying something that 
will be on sale a month in advance :)

-Curt

Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 16:22:45 -0500
From: " Rusty Cullens" 
To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Drivers mirror swap from 201 to 124?
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Content-Type: text/plain;charset="us-ascii"

Yes, it is the same.

Rusty Cullens
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6755 Peachtree Industrial Blvd.
Suite 260
Atlanta, GA 30360

800-741-5252
770-452-7320

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Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 4:15 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] Drivers mirror swap from 201 to 124?

I hate to intrude on your off topic discussions ;)

A list member was in need of a mirror for a 124, I have one from a 201 that
looks like it ought to fit. Before I ship it to him is anybody aware of any
reason it shouldn't? It came off an '85 190D.

-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Worn rear tires

2013-01-24 Thread Curt Raymond
Normal enough for a car that probably needs struts. I've got the struts but 
haven't found time to put them in. Last time I'd planned that time it NEEDED 
brakes. Now of course its really to cold to be working outside.
Strangely the front tires don't show any odd pattern of wear at all.

-Curt

Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 15:38:00 -0600
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On 24/01/2013 3:13 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
> I noticed today that my '84 190D is excessively wearing the inside edge of 
> the rear tires.
> I've had all the rear links done and the shocks are new too, all parts from Q.
> I presume theres still something worn in the rear, an alignment was done 
> after the links were replaced. Looking at the car it doesn't seem like the 
> tires tip in but I suppose they must be.
>
> Any common suspects?
>
> -Curt
>
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Maybe the alignment is not correct even though you had it done?
Does it feel normal when you drive it?

Randy


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Re: [MBZ] OT Cold weather issues

2013-01-24 Thread Curt Raymond
My neighborhood is all older houses, a very common upgrade here is to drill 
1.5" holes through the clapboards on the outside of the house and spray foam 
into the cavity. That was done at some point on my house. Actually on mine they 
pulled the clapboards, did the foam through the outer wallboard, then wrapped 
it in tar paper and 1/2" foam, the kind with foil on the outside, and finally 
vinyl siding. They shot some foam into the attic too but its crumbled badly. 
When I did the bathroom I took out blocks of foam that resembled floats under a 
dock. I'd guess the stuff in the attic was killed by UV, we have several 
windows up there and it gets a good amount of sunlight.

-Curt

Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 16:43:08 -0700
From: Brian Toscano 
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The lack of insulation makes for old house charm. :-)

Back then fiber glass didn't exist.  In some rural areas, houses were
clapboard siding, studs, and tongue and groove or simply pine boards on the
inside with a tin roof.  Exterior clapboards may never have been painted.
Wood stove inside, possibly serving double duty as a stove.  The ground
level floor could have been supported with slabbed tree trunks, leveled
with a bottle.


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Re: [MBZ] Driving

2013-01-24 Thread Brian Toscano
Excellent.  This is why NC requires elderly driving tests. :-)


On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Mountain Man  wrote:

> Craig wrote:
> > That's a good one. Thanks for the chuckle, Wilton.
>
> ++
> I chuckled also - thanks
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] Worn rear tires

2013-01-24 Thread Max Dillon
Tire pressure correct?  Rotating tires on 5k mile schedule?  Bottom link aka 
control arm also repaired?  Bushing replaced at bottom of wheel carrier (where 
control arm attaches)?

If none of those, then either alignment or sub-frame bushings.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
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Curt Raymond  wrote:

>I noticed today that my '84 190D is excessively wearing the inside edge
>of the rear tires.
>I've had all the rear links done and the shocks are new too, all parts
>from Q.
>I presume theres still something worn in the rear, an alignment was
>done after the links were replaced. Looking at the car it doesn't seem
>like the tires tip in but I suppose they must be.
>
>Any common suspects?
>
>-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Final gun comment

2013-01-24 Thread Brian Toscano
Randy,

I find it interesting that you voiced objection to the gun posts, but think
we should read your OT posts about electrical work and local Canadian
issues, such as Japanese senior citizens.  ust like RLE, all of your
messages now go straight to bit bucket.

Thanks,
Brian Toscano
whose family is half Canadian


On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 8:59 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

> What culture?  I taught my son to be careful, but fearful? No.  Are
> you talking about the culture in your home town or is this yet another
> "straw man"?
>
> On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 4:11 PM, G Mann  wrote:
> > Without going to any discussion about guns, period, let us look at the
> true
> > source of this young mans fear, how it was installed, who taught it to
> him,
> > where it came from.
> >
> > We have in our society today a culture that teaches children to be
> fearful.
> > In an older society, we were taught by example and entertainment
> [hollywood
> > movies of that era] that the land of the brave existed and we [society]
> > supported it. Our heros were men and women who did right and punished
> > wrong.
> >
> > Now? Please draw your own conclusions.
> >
> > Respectfully,
> > Grant...
> > -off to watch another episode of Lone Ranger-
> > On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Randy Bennell 
> wrote:
> >
> >> My wife was talking with a young woman this weekend, who has 2 young
> >>  children.
> >> She was relating the fact that her son, who is 5 or 6 (I cannot recall
> >> which) is having nightmares because, every day at school, they are
> having
> >> drills on what to do if someone comes to the school with a gun.
> >>
> >> This strikes me as a bit over the top. The young fellow goes to school
> in
> >> Steinbach, Manitoba. Steinbach is a small town about 30 miles east of
> >> Winnipeg.
> >> I should think that the likelihood of someone showing up at the school
> >> with a gun is fairly remote.
> >>
> >> The young boy is truly afraid that something bad is going to happen at
> >> school.
> >>
> >> Randy
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] MORE OT - Japanese Senior Citizens?

2013-01-24 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jan 24, 2013, at 3:42 PM, "Randy Bennell"  wrote:

> I did a quick online search and the only things I came up with seem to 
> indicate that Japan has a lot of older people and the life expectancy is very 
> high.
> Nothing to indicate any recent news items on the subject that I saw on my 
> minimal search.


Youth in Asia. You needed to dig just a little deeper. Some political hack over 
there wants old people to "hurry up and die". Not unlike our own Dan Gordon, I 
might add. 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/shortcuts/2013/jan/22/taro-aso-japanese-politician-hurry-die

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Laptop info needed

2013-01-24 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jan 24, 2013, at 11:00 AM, "M G"  wrote:

> Yes I know that linux of some flavor or another may be installable but I have 
> some older programs that require no later then XP in order to run. No I don't 
> want to run XP in a virtual machine under linux or win7 as that is to me just 
> too cumbersome.
> 
> My thought is to see if anyone knows of a laptop that I can look for that has 
> drivers for XP and will allow XP to be installed. I would prefer one that 
> runs at 2+ ghz, has all the normal plugin possibilities, and will take a 6 
> gig drive or bigger. I don't need a huge screen and don't really like the 
> keyboards that have a numeric keypad added in the right of the normal 
> keyboard as I don't use it and it puts the keyboard off center and it feels 
> wrong. 
> 
> So there it is. I would be grateful for any suggestions.


Ugh. Windows XP is almost at the end of its life cycle. All new computers that 
are Windows based are shipping with Windows 8, which is three generations newer 
than XP. You are hanging on to an obsolete operating system. Windows 7 will run 
most XP programs in "XP mode" I believe. 
A Lenovo T-60 or T-61 would fit your needs nicely. As would a Dell D-630. 
I run Linux. Much like Apple products "it just works". I do have to boot into 
Windows soon though, TurboTax doesn't make a Linux version. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] MORE OT - Japanese Senior Citizens?

2013-01-24 Thread Greg Fiorentino
I know that Japan doesn't do much in the way of providing services to
special needs children.  I know of cases where parents of such children have
brought their kids to the US to utilize our schools (illegally, and at great
expense to our taxpayers) because special ed. is just not done in Japan.  I
am not aware if this cavalier attitude extends to the elderly.  It seems
unlikely that it would, considering the respect that is generally accorded
to the elders in Japanese culture.

Perhaps the cartoon was more about the refugee policies in Canada than the
treatment of the elderly in Japan.  I know that the attitude of many who run
the refugee and asylum branches in the US government is: "We know that most
of the applicants are just gaming the system, but if it saves just one
life"

Greg

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Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 1:42 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] MORE OT - Japanese Senior Citizens?

So, there was a political cartoon in the local paper today depicting a
couple of Japanese citizens seeking refugee status in Canada on the basis
that they were senior citizens from  Japan.

It does not ring any bells with me. Did I miss something?
Are senior citizens not treated well in Japan?

I did a quick online search and the only things I came up with seem to
indicate that Japan has a lot of older people and the life expectancy is
very high.
Nothing to indicate any recent news items on the subject that I saw on my
minimal search.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] MORE OT - Japanese Senior Citizens?

2013-01-24 Thread Dan Penoff
Why did I immediately picture Emily Litella when you said that?

Dan

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On Jan 24, 2013, at 7:34 PM, Rick Knoble  wrote:

> On Jan 24, 2013, at 3:42 PM, "Randy Bennell"  wrote:
> 
>> I did a quick online search and the only things I came up with seem to 
>> indicate that Japan has a lot of older people and the life expectancy is 
>> very high.
>> Nothing to indicate any recent news items on the subject that I saw on my 
>> minimal search.
> 
> 
> Youth in Asia. You needed to dig just a little deeper. Some political hack 
> over there wants old people to "hurry up and die". Not unlike our own Dan 
> Gordon, I might add. 
> 
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/shortcuts/2013/jan/22/taro-aso-japanese-politician-hurry-die
> 
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Laptop info needed

2013-01-24 Thread Dan Penoff
I have over 30,000 clients running XP, which are being replaced with Windows 7 
machines at the rate of about 5,000/year. At that rate I will be all in on 
Windows 7 when Windows 8 is approaching end of life.

Say what you want, but XP has been good for us from an enterprise standpoint. 7 
is OK but has its quirks.

And we are finally moving to DFS! Hallelujah! No more drive mapping!

Dan who is migrating a file server right now courtesy of Robocopy

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On Jan 24, 2013, at 7:46 PM, Rick Knoble  wrote:

> On Jan 24, 2013, at 11:00 AM, "M G"  wrote:
> 
>> Yes I know that linux of some flavor or another may be installable but I 
>> have some older programs that require no later then XP in order to run. No I 
>> don't want to run XP in a virtual machine under linux or win7 as that is to 
>> me just too cumbersome.
>> 
>> My thought is to see if anyone knows of a laptop that I can look for that 
>> has drivers for XP and will allow XP to be installed. I would prefer one 
>> that runs at 2+ ghz, has all the normal plugin possibilities, and will take 
>> a 6 gig drive or bigger. I don't need a huge screen and don't really like 
>> the keyboards that have a numeric keypad added in the right of the normal 
>> keyboard as I don't use it and it puts the keyboard off center and it feels 
>> wrong. 
>> 
>> So there it is. I would be grateful for any suggestions.
> 
> 
> Ugh. Windows XP is almost at the end of its life cycle. All new computers 
> that are Windows based are shipping with Windows 8, which is three 
> generations newer than XP. You are hanging on to an obsolete operating 
> system. Windows 7 will run most XP programs in "XP mode" I believe. 
> A Lenovo T-60 or T-61 would fit your needs nicely. As would a Dell D-630. 
> I run Linux. Much like Apple products "it just works". I do have to boot into 
> Windows soon though, TurboTax doesn't make a Linux version. 
> 
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT Cold weather issues

2013-01-24 Thread Dan Penoff
I have been working on sealing literally every penetration of the ceiling of 
our living space. I had a blower door test done last week, and the guy who did 
it was stunned at how well sealed our house was.

I had not a chance to seal the recessed fixtures that are in our kitchen, which 
I just did this past weekend.

I want to get more insulation blown into the attic, but I'm not sure that it 
makes good fiscal sense, as we already have enough for about R-30, I believe.

Now that the ceiling is sealed, I'll be putting in a solar powered attic fan to 
try and reduce attic temperatures during cooling season. Our ductwork runs in 
the attic, so anything I can do to reduce temperatures in there should help our 
AC.

Dan

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On Jan 24, 2013, at 6:56 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> I put $300 of fiberglass insulation into our attic in September. For the past 
> 6 years we've filled the oil tank the first week in September, this year we 
> filled it yesterday...
> 
> Its nice to see payback for the work...
> 
> The insulation I put in is only phase 1 of what was a 3 phase project that 
> will take us to about R45. After that we need to see about replacing a few of 
> the least efficient windows in the house. Next winter I'm thinking about 
> running foam boards around the base of the house. We supplement our oil heat 
> with a woodstove in the basement of our 1 story house and I'm sure we're 
> wasting some of that heat out the base of the house.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 14:35:54 -0600
> From: Randy Bennell 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Cold weather issues
> Message-ID: <51019b2a.50...@bennell.ca>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> You need a smaller space to heat and more insualtion.
> 
> Randy
> 
> 
> On 24/01/2013 1:42 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> $78 is amazing! My place in Maine was built in 1899, it's only partially 
>> insulated, has three levels and its 3800 sq. ft. Costs me $800 per month in 
>> oil during the winter months and I keep it at 54 or lower!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] OT Cold weather issues

2013-01-24 Thread Max Dillon
I hope radon gas is not a concern in the Tampa area; sealing up your house that 
well could trap a radioactive gas inside, increasing the concentration level to 
unhealthy.

-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Dan Penoff  wrote:

>I have been working on sealing literally every penetration of the
>ceiling of our living space. I had a blower door test done last week,
>and the guy who did it was stunned at how well sealed our house was.
>
>I had not a chance to seal the recessed fixtures that are in our
>kitchen, which I just did this past weekend.
>
>I want to get more insulation blown into the attic, but I'm not sure
>that it makes good fiscal sense, as we already have enough for about
>R-30, I believe.
>
>Now that the ceiling is sealed, I'll be putting in a solar powered
>attic fan to try and reduce attic temperatures during cooling season.
>Our ductwork runs in the attic, so anything I can do to reduce
>temperatures in there should help our AC.
>
>Dan
>
>Sent from my iPad
>
>On Jan 24, 2013, at 6:56 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>
>> I put $300 of fiberglass insulation into our attic in September. For
>the past 6 years we've filled the oil tank the first week in September,
>this year we filled it yesterday...
>> 
>> Its nice to see payback for the work...
>> 
>> The insulation I put in is only phase 1 of what was a 3 phase project
>that will take us to about R45. After that we need to see about
>replacing a few of the least efficient windows in the house. Next
>winter I'm thinking about running foam boards around the base of the
>house. We supplement our oil heat with a woodstove in the basement of
>our 1 story house and I'm sure we're wasting some of that heat out the
>base of the house.
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 14:35:54 -0600
>> From: Randy Bennell 
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Cold weather issues
>> Message-ID: <51019b2a.50...@bennell.ca>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>> 
>> You need a smaller space to heat and more insualtion.
>> 
>> Randy
>> 
>> 
>> On 24/01/2013 1:42 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> $78 is amazing! My place in Maine was built in 1899, it's only
>partially insulated, has three levels and its 3800 sq. ft. Costs me
>$800 per month in oil during the winter months and I keep it at 54 or
>lower!
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] OT Cold weather issues

2013-01-24 Thread Dan Penoff
We are amazed that the house has a radon system in it, as our former house that 
is only a few blocks away did not, nor did any other houses in our old 
neighborhood. It seems that the builder who built this neighborhood put them in 
all of their houses.

I have never tested this house, but with the soil being so porous I would be 
surprised if there was a threat of radon accumulation.

I replaced the fan in the system when we bought the house, as it had failed at 
some time in the past. I have it on a timer that runs it two hours a day, one 
in the morning and one in the afternoon.

I may test this summer when the house is closed up for a while. Right now it 
wouldn't be relevant, as the windows are open nearly every day.

Dan

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On Jan 24, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Max Dillon  wrote:

> I hope radon gas is not a concern in the Tampa area; sealing up your house 
> that well could trap a radioactive gas inside, increasing the concentration 
> level to unhealthy.
> 
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20
> 
> Dan Penoff  wrote:
> 
>> I have been working on sealing literally every penetration of the
>> ceiling of our living space. I had a blower door test done last week,
>> and the guy who did it was stunned at how well sealed our house was.
>> 
>> I had not a chance to seal the recessed fixtures that are in our
>> kitchen, which I just did this past weekend.
>> 
>> I want to get more insulation blown into the attic, but I'm not sure
>> that it makes good fiscal sense, as we already have enough for about
>> R-30, I believe.
>> 
>> Now that the ceiling is sealed, I'll be putting in a solar powered
>> attic fan to try and reduce attic temperatures during cooling season.
>> Our ductwork runs in the attic, so anything I can do to reduce
>> temperatures in there should help our AC.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Jan 24, 2013, at 6:56 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>> 
>>> I put $300 of fiberglass insulation into our attic in September. For
>> the past 6 years we've filled the oil tank the first week in September,
>> this year we filled it yesterday...
>>> 
>>> Its nice to see payback for the work...
>>> 
>>> The insulation I put in is only phase 1 of what was a 3 phase project
>> that will take us to about R45. After that we need to see about
>> replacing a few of the least efficient windows in the house. Next
>> winter I'm thinking about running foam boards around the base of the
>> house. We supplement our oil heat with a woodstove in the basement of
>> our 1 story house and I'm sure we're wasting some of that heat out the
>> base of the house.
>>> 
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>> Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 14:35:54 -0600
>>> From: Randy Bennell 
>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Cold weather issues
>>> Message-ID: <51019b2a.50...@bennell.ca>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>> 
>>> You need a smaller space to heat and more insualtion.
>>> 
>>> Randy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 24/01/2013 1:42 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
 $78 is amazing! My place in Maine was built in 1899, it's only
>> partially insulated, has three levels and its 3800 sq. ft. Costs me
>> $800 per month in oil during the winter months and I keep it at 54 or
>> lower!
 
 Sent from my iPhone
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[MBZ] R320CDI

2013-01-24 Thread WILTON
Son said today that his '07 R320CDI has ~250 kmi on it.  torque converter has 
been chattering for several months - 50+ kmi.

Wilton 
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Re: [MBZ] Worn rear tires

2013-01-24 Thread Curt Raymond
I haven't rotated the tires but the front tires haven't hardly worn, usually 
its the fronts that wear out on me...
Sub frame bushings have been replaced. 

What does "control arm repaired" mean? Bushing at the bottom of the wheel 
carrier is a good bet, I can see that allowing the bottom to shift out causing 
the wear.

-Curt

Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 18:22:15 -0600
From: Max Dillon 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Worn rear tires
Message-ID: <009bd7dd-5ef0-4fc6-ba51-af3a596d3...@email.android.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Tire pressure correct?  Rotating tires on 5k mile schedule?  Bottom link aka 
control arm also repaired?  Bushing replaced at bottom of wheel carrier (where 
control arm attaches)?

If none of those, then either alignment or sub-frame bushings.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Curt Raymond  wrote:

>I noticed today that my '84 190D is excessively wearing the inside edge
>of the rear tires.
>I've had all the rear links done and the shocks are new too, all parts
>from Q.
>I presume theres still something worn in the rear, an alignment was
>done after the links were replaced. Looking at the car it doesn't seem
>like the tires tip in but I suppose they must be.
>
>Any common suspects?
>
>-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] OT Cold weather issues

2013-01-24 Thread Max Dillon
If the builder installed a system during construction, radon is probably not a 
concern, but a simple test can eliminate doubt.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Dan Penoff  wrote:

>We are amazed that the house has a radon system in it, as our former
>house that is only a few blocks away did not, nor did any other houses
>in our old neighborhood. It seems that the builder who built this
>neighborhood put them in all of their houses.
>
>I have never tested this house, but with the soil being so porous I
>would be surprised if there was a threat of radon accumulation.
>
>I replaced the fan in the system when we bought the house, as it had
>failed at some time in the past. I have it on a timer that runs it two
>hours a day, one in the morning and one in the afternoon.
>
>I may test this summer when the house is closed up for a while. Right
>now it wouldn't be relevant, as the windows are open nearly every day.
>
>Dan
>
>Sent from my iPad
>
>On Jan 24, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Max Dillon 
>wrote:
>
>> I hope radon gas is not a concern in the Tampa area; sealing up your
>house that well could trap a radioactive gas inside, increasing the
>concentration level to unhealthy.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20
>> 
>> Dan Penoff  wrote:
>> 
>>> I have been working on sealing literally every penetration of the
>>> ceiling of our living space. I had a blower door test done last
>week,
>>> and the guy who did it was stunned at how well sealed our house was.
>>> 
>>> I had not a chance to seal the recessed fixtures that are in our
>>> kitchen, which I just did this past weekend.
>>> 
>>> I want to get more insulation blown into the attic, but I'm not sure
>>> that it makes good fiscal sense, as we already have enough for about
>>> R-30, I believe.
>>> 
>>> Now that the ceiling is sealed, I'll be putting in a solar powered
>>> attic fan to try and reduce attic temperatures during cooling
>season.
>>> Our ductwork runs in the attic, so anything I can do to reduce
>>> temperatures in there should help our AC.
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> On Jan 24, 2013, at 6:56 PM, Curt Raymond 
>wrote:
>>> 
 I put $300 of fiberglass insulation into our attic in September.
>For
>>> the past 6 years we've filled the oil tank the first week in
>September,
>>> this year we filled it yesterday...
 
 Its nice to see payback for the work...
 
 The insulation I put in is only phase 1 of what was a 3 phase
>project
>>> that will take us to about R45. After that we need to see about
>>> replacing a few of the least efficient windows in the house. Next
>>> winter I'm thinking about running foam boards around the base of the
>>> house. We supplement our oil heat with a woodstove in the basement
>of
>>> our 1 story house and I'm sure we're wasting some of that heat out
>the
>>> base of the house.
 
 -Curt
 
 Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 14:35:54 -0600
 From: Randy Bennell 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List 
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Cold weather issues
 Message-ID: <51019b2a.50...@bennell.ca>
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
 
 You need a smaller space to heat and more insualtion.
 
 Randy
 
 
 On 24/01/2013 1:42 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
> $78 is amazing! My place in Maine was built in 1899, it's only
>>> partially insulated, has three levels and its 3800 sq. ft. Costs me
>>> $800 per month in oil during the winter months and I keep it at 54
>or
>>> lower!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
 
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[MBZ] Engine Miss

2013-01-24 Thread clay monroe
Frosch is still stuck at the car doctor.

Old fuel pump went on the fritz and car would not start.  I checked for spark, 
which was good, swapped in fresh filter, which made it start one time.  Could 
have been bumping the pump got it to function the one time.  Let it sit for a 
few months then took it to my indy.

He diagnosed bad pump, changed in/upgraded to newer fuel system so parts are 
less expensive and more available.  That solved the no start issue, but it was 
running poorly.  Changed out the points and condenser.  Removed the spark plugs 
and put in new.  Traced for non operating injector and found one that was not 
firing.  I gave him a pair of used injectors that are supposed to be 
functional.  There is signal to the injector, but seems to be no fuel at spark.

Did a compression check and that was ok.  Still missing though.  

Questions for the group.

Is it bad if I just drive the car anyway and save up for more work to solve the 
mystery?

Rebuild the engine to put it back into spec?

Drive it and save up to do a head gasket replacement at which time everything 
would be clean and sealed up by fresh gaskets instead of the 40 year old stuff?

What other things could be causing a miss?

clay



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Re: [MBZ] Worn rear tires

2013-01-24 Thread Dieselhead
Subframe mounts.  These are bigtime culprits on 124 and 126, so I 
presume that applies to 201 also.mn




I noticed today that my '84 190D is excessively wearing the inside 
edge of the rear tires.

I've had all the rear links done and the shocks are new too, all parts from Q.
I presume theres still something worn in the rear, an alignment was 
done after the links were replaced. Looking at the car it doesn't 
seem like the tires tip in but I suppose they must be.


Any common suspects?

-Curt


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Re: [MBZ] Was Final gun comment now socializm

2013-01-24 Thread clay monroe
I actually wrote it all by myself.

clay

On Jan 22, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Mountain Man wrote:

> clay wrote:
>> Americans no longer build a nation, they pillage the carcass of industry, 
>> growing rich off of illusory wealth scams like Madoff or the housing bubble. 
>>  Toss heaps of cash at vaporware tech firms that promise unlimited energy 
>> from imaginary solar or biofuels.  Pump up financial firms that are no 
>> better than the Crimson Permanent Assurance.
>> 
> 
> Dude!!!
> You wrote this?
> Or did you copy/paste?
> Nice.
> 
> Standard banned closing 
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] Sulphur Additive ?

2013-01-24 Thread clay monroe
it does quiet a klatta klatta beast

clay

On Jan 22, 2013, at 5:40 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:

> Last year I ran about 1/2 tank B5 in my 240D and got a noticible reduction in 
> sound which I attribute to the increased lubricity of bio.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 13:49:28 -0500 (EST)
> From: rdeaf...@aol.com
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Subject: [MBZ] Subject: Re:  Sulphur Additive ?
> Message-ID: <1e79e.13bea5f9.3e303...@aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> 
> Snake oil, no need for it. You'd be better off adding some bio-diesel to  
> improve fuel lubricity, which may have suffered when the sulfur was  removed.
> 
> Sulfur won't help at all, may do harm; increase the amount of  acids your 
> oil needs to deal with.
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> 
> 
>  So how much bio-diesel  per 17 gallon tank ??
> 
> Bob
> 1983 240D
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Re: [MBZ] Was Final gun comment now socializm

2013-01-24 Thread clay monroe
The ditty is nice, but 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Crimson_Permanent_Assurance

http://www.anyclip.com/movies/the-meaning-of-life/PczuJ4JhbJmm/#!cast/


On Jan 22, 2013, at 5:43 PM, Mountain Man wrote:

> The Crimson Permanent Assurance
> 
> I had to look that up - nice.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YUiBBltOg4
> 
> Standard banned closure 
> 
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] R320CDI

2013-01-24 Thread Craig
On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:23:55 -0500 "WILTON"  wrote:

> Son said today that his '07 R320CDI has ~250 kmi on it.  torque
> converter has been chattering for several months - 50+ kmi.

So he drives somewhat north of 40 kmi/year. That's a lot.

What is the rest of the vehicle like?

Is he going to repair or replace it?


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Re: [MBZ] Was Final gun comment now socializm

2013-01-24 Thread clay monroe
Full clip that illustrated my point

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?noframes;read=251815

On Jan 22, 2013, at 5:43 PM, Mountain Man wrote:

> The Crimson Permanent Assurance
> 
> I had to look that up - nice.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YUiBBltOg4
> 
> Standard banned closure 
> 
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] MORE OT - Japanese Senior Citizens?

2013-01-24 Thread Gerry Archer

From: "Randy Bennell" 
So, there was a political cartoon in the local paper today depicting a 
couple of Japanese citizens seeking refugee status in Canada on the 
basis that they were senior citizens from  Japan.


It does not ring any bells with me. Did I miss something?
Are senior citizens not treated well in Japan?

I did a quick online search and the only things I came up with seem to 
indicate that Japan has a lot of older people and the life expectancy is 
very high.
Nothing to indicate any recent news items on the subject that I saw on 
my minimal search.

Randy


See this about that:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jan/22/elderly-hurry-up-die-japanese

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Laptop info needed

2013-01-24 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jan 24, 2013, at 6:57 PM, "Dan Penoff"  wrote:

> Say what you want, but XP has been good for us from an enterprise standpoint. 
> 7 is OK but has its quirks.


I didn't say it was a bad OS. I said it is nearing EOL. I know someone still 
running Windows 98. It still works, it is just not supported. 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Laptop info needed

2013-01-24 Thread Benz Hogs

I have a T-60 that I need to sell
XP is still alive until April 2014, it's not dead YET! (said the man 
with the thick Monty Python/British accent :) )


Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 "Max" (160,xxx mi)

On 1/24/2013 6:46 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:

On Jan 24, 2013, at 11:00 AM, "M G"  wrote:


Yes I know that linux of some flavor or another may be installable but I have 
some older programs that require no later then XP in order to run. No I don't 
want to run XP in a virtual machine under linux or win7 as that is to me just 
too cumbersome.

My thought is to see if anyone knows of a laptop that I can look for that has 
drivers for XP and will allow XP to be installed. I would prefer one that runs 
at 2+ ghz, has all the normal plugin possibilities, and will take a 6 gig drive 
or bigger. I don't need a huge screen and don't really like the keyboards that 
have a numeric keypad added in the right of the normal keyboard as I don't use 
it and it puts the keyboard off center and it feels wrong.

So there it is. I would be grateful for any suggestions.



Ugh. Windows XP is almost at the end of its life cycle. All new computers that are 
Windows based are shipping with Windows 8, which is three generations newer than XP. You 
are hanging on to an obsolete operating system. Windows 7 will run most XP programs in 
"XP mode" I believe.
A Lenovo T-60 or T-61 would fit your needs nicely. As would a Dell D-630.
I run Linux. Much like Apple products "it just works". I do have to boot into 
Windows soon though, TurboTax doesn't make a Linux version.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Laptop info needed

2013-01-24 Thread M G
Thanks Rick, I'll look for those.

Manfred

Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 18:46:01 -0600
From: Rick Knoble 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Laptop info needed

A Lenovo T-60 or T-61 would fit your needs nicely. As would a Dell D-630.
I run Linux. Much like Apple products "it just works". I do have to boot into 
Windows soon though, TurboTax doesn't make a Linux version.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Laptop info needed

2013-01-24 Thread Fmiser
> > "M G"  wrote:
> >
> > Yes I know that linux of some flavor or another may be
> > installable but I have some older programs that require no
> > later then XP in order to run. No I don't want to run XP in
> > a virtual machine under linux or win7 as that is to me just
> > too cumbersome.

>  Rick Knoble wrote:
> 
> I run Linux. Much like Apple products "it just works". I do
> have to boot into Windows soon though, TurboTax doesn't make a
> Linux version. 

Better than Apple in that regard.  It might take more to get it
set to be comfortable - but it's quite rare for something to
quit working.  Once it's working it stays that way.

As far as a virtual machine, what aspect do you find cumbersome? 

--  Philip, with less than 20 virtual machines.  I think...

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Laptop info needed

2013-01-24 Thread Dan Penoff
...and I am busy occupying my time at work migrating virtualized Windows 2000 
servers on to 2008R2 Server VMs.

Oy.

Dan who is not nearing EOL

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On Jan 24, 2013, at 9:15 PM, Rick Knoble  wrote:

> On Jan 24, 2013, at 6:57 PM, "Dan Penoff"  wrote:
> 
>> Say what you want, but XP has been good for us from an enterprise 
>> standpoint. 7 is OK but has its quirks.
> 
> 
> I didn't say it was a bad OS. I said it is nearing EOL. I know someone still 
> running Windows 98. It still works, it is just not supported. 
> 
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT Cold weather issues

2013-01-24 Thread Jim Cathey

older houses... common ... to drill 1.5" holes... and spray foam in...


I have heard that there have been many old houses destroyed in this
manner, because inadequate thought was given to moisture.  The old
leaky house aired out so fast that moisture couldn't accumulate in
the walls and rot.  But with foam?  Rot city.  Just something to
check into when doing this, I'd guess.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] MORE OT - Japanese Senior Citizens?

2013-01-24 Thread Mountain Man
Rick wrote:
> Not unlike our own Dan Gordon, I might add.

I don't espouse that, but I see it as a logical conclusion given all
the other chatter out there.  I remember a story from a decade ago
where it was explained that gen-x was known for wearing t-shirts
saying the same sentiment - Die Already.  It is not wise to be tough
but ignorant of forces further on.  I want to be aware, no fear, just
know that when people become chattel as it seems we see these days,
just be careful out there, don't participate in too much of a good
thing - it all ends and even the critical care people cannot continue
their duties without remuneration, so... ya never know.

Standard banned closure 
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Engine Miss

2013-01-24 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jan 24, 2013, at 7:39 PM, "clay monroe"  wrote:

> Questions for the group.
> 
> Is it bad if I just drive the car anyway and save up for more work to solve 
> the mystery?


If the problem is a fuel injector not working at all, no. If it is an ignition 
problem, maybe. A cylinder not firing will cause fuel to wash down that 
cylinder and contaminate the oil in the crankcase. It is probably best not to 
drive it.

> Rebuild the engine to put it back into spec?

If the compression is okay, there are no massive oil leaks, and no odd internal 
engine noises why bother? Do you have that much extra coin laying around AND a 
wife that will let you spend it? I should be so lucky. 

> Drive it and save up to do a head gasket replacement at which time everything 
> would be clean and sealed up by fresh gaskets instead of the 40 year old 
> stuff?

Park it and have the Indy sort it out, if you feel over whelmed by it. I am not 
familiar with Mercedes alloy V8's. If it is common for particular head problems 
to arise on that engine, address those issues. If it is pretty much bullet 
proof, leave it alone. 

> What other things could be causing a miss?

A four stroke gasoline engine needs fuel, ignition, and compression to run. 
Determine which is lacking, and correct it. I know, easier said than done. 

Does it miss at idle? Only under load? What are the conditions that cause the 
miss fire? A shop with an old Sun machine could help here. The old 
oscilloscopes were great for troubleshooting points ignition problems. I still 
remember a few things about how to read one. What shows up as point bounce, bad 
wires, etc. 

My WAG as to your problem would be a heat related deterioration of the 
injection wiring. That is a WAG, as I know nothing of Mercedes V8's. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] MORE OT - Japanese Senior Citizens?

2013-01-24 Thread Rick Knoble
> On Jan 24, 2013, at 7:34 PM, Rick Knoble  wrote:
>> Youth in Asia.

On Jan 24, 2013, at 6:53 PM, "Dan Penoff"  wrote:

> Why did I immediately picture Emily Litella when you said that?


:-)

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT Cold weather issues

2013-01-24 Thread Peter Frederick
I finally got around to making windows for my basement (been thinking  
of it for a long time, just never go to it) from 2x4 cut down to 2x2  
and a simple single pane of acrylic plastic set in.  Made a huge  
difference, suddenly the basement is not drafty, it's dead quite down  
there, and it stays at 65F all the time, even when it's 15 outside.


I also put fiberglass insulation around the band board, which had not  
been done.  Very much warmer all of a sudden, wish I'd done this 40  
years ago when I first thought of it.


Should reduce the heat bill quite a bit.

I'm also going to get chimney top dampers this year and see if that  
helps, too.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Worn rear tires

2013-01-24 Thread Peter Frederick
Did you replace the rubber pads for the springs?  If they are worn out  
(thin or missing) it will cause the rear end to squat, hence wear the  
insides of the tires.


Could also be incorrect alignment, of course (too much toe in, I think).

Weak springs will do the same thing, but it's normal for the tires to  
wear a bit more on the inside -- which is why you should rotate them.   
By a bit more I mean barely good tread on the outside and the wear  
indicator distinctly showing on the inside, not much more than that.   
If they are heavily worn on the inside, you need to check the alignment.


Almost forgot -- what condition are the rear subframe mounts in?  If  
they are shot, the subframe will cock forward, and this will screw up  
the alignment when driving, but only when accelerating or running up  
hills.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] OT Cold weather issues

2013-01-24 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jan 24, 2013, at 8:50 PM, "Peter Frederick"  wrote:

> I also put fiberglass insulation around the band board, which had not been 
> done.  Very much warmer all of a sudden, wish I'd done this 40 years ago when 
> I first thought of it.


I'm not the only procrastinator here. Thanks. I feel better now. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Worn rear tires

2013-01-24 Thread Curt Raymond
When I first got it the car was basically undrivable. My Indy believes in "fix 
it when it breaks".
I on the other hand believe that a properly set up 201 is a great handling car 
so between us we changed:
rear shocks
rear links
subframe mounts

Which I considered all the obvious likely culprits. The car drives pretty well 
but does have a little something funny going on so I kind of knew this was 
coming...

-Curt

Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 19:29:49 -0600
From: Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com>
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Worn rear tires
Message-ID: 
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Subframe mounts.  These are bigtime culprits on 124 and 126, so I 
presume that applies to 201 also.mn



>I noticed today that my '84 190D is excessively wearing the inside 
>edge of the rear tires.
>I've had all the rear links done and the shocks are new too, all parts from Q.
>I presume theres still something worn in the rear, an alignment was 
>done after the links were replaced. Looking at the car it doesn't 
>seem like the tires tip in but I suppose they must be.
>
>Any common suspects?
>
>-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] OT Cold weather issues

2013-01-24 Thread Curt Raymond
Especially with the external foam wrap like mine has.

Our bathroom wall rotted away, aided by a stupid full size window in the tub. 
Once I got rid of that and built a proper bathroom wall with concrete backer 
board et al I'm not worried.

Actually I'm not worried about moisture at all, considering how dry the place 
is right now with the woodstove cranking at -5F outside...

-Curt

Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 18:35:22 -0800
From: Jim Cathey 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Cold weather issues
Message-ID: 
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> older houses... common ... to drill 1.5" holes... and spray foam in...

I have heard that there have been many old houses destroyed in this
manner, because inadequate thought was given to moisture.  The old
leaky house aired out so fast that moisture couldn't accumulate in
the walls and rot.  But with foam?  Rot city.  Just something to
check into when doing this, I'd guess.

-- Jim

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Re: [MBZ] OT Cold weather issues

2013-01-24 Thread Curt Raymond
I need to do the band board too. Did you use kraft backed?

The ends between the studs hadn't all been done when we moved in. I figured it 
out because I was down in the basement with the wood stove really pumping out 
the heat and realized where I was sitting the back of my neck was freezing!

-Curt

Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:50:15 -0600
From: Peter Frederick 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Cold weather issues
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes

I finally got around to making windows for my basement (been thinking  
of it for a long time, just never go to it) from 2x4 cut down to 2x2  
and a simple single pane of acrylic plastic set in.  Made a huge  
difference, suddenly the basement is not drafty, it's dead quite down  
there, and it stays at 65F all the time, even when it's 15 outside.

I also put fiberglass insulation around the band board, which had not  
been done.  Very much warmer all of a sudden, wish I'd done this 40  
years ago when I first thought of it.

Should reduce the heat bill quite a bit.

I'm also going to get chimney top dampers this year and see if that  
helps, too.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] OT Cold weather issues

2013-01-24 Thread Craig
On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:50:15 -0600 Peter Frederick 
wrote:

> I'm also going to get chimney top dampers this year and see if that  
> helps, too.

How do those work?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Worn rear tires

2013-01-24 Thread Max Dillon
Control arm has an inner bushing which is a real pain to change.

When all is right with the suspension, rear wheels will wear first, in the 
inner edge.  You must rotate them.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Curt Raymond  wrote:

>I haven't rotated the tires but the front tires haven't hardly worn,
>usually its the fronts that wear out on me...
>Sub frame bushings have been replaced. 
>
>What does "control arm repaired" mean? Bushing at the bottom of the
>wheel carrier is a good bet, I can see that allowing the bottom to
>shift out causing the wear.
>
>-Curt
>
>Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 18:22:15 -0600
>From: Max Dillon 
>To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] Worn rear tires
>Message-ID: <009bd7dd-5ef0-4fc6-ba51-af3a596d3...@email.android.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
>Tire pressure correct?  Rotating tires on 5k mile schedule?  Bottom
>link aka control arm also repaired?  Bushing replaced at bottom of
>wheel carrier (where control arm attaches)?
>
>If none of those, then either alignment or sub-frame bushings.


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Re: [MBZ] Worn rear tires

2013-01-24 Thread Peter Frederick

Inner bushing and outer bearing on the spring link.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] OT Cold weather issues

2013-01-24 Thread Peter Frederick
Yup.  Good enough for me, since I don't plan to put up a wall cover of  
any kind soon.


I do need to put some insulation on the exposed part of the basement  
walls (2 ft or more on the south side) -- a layer of brick and a  
cement block aren't going to have much thermal resistance.


Big thing though is to seal things up so you don't have a hurricane  
blowing through.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Laptop info needed

2013-01-24 Thread Dieselhead
Facts of life.  Win XP is as strong in business now as it was ~10 
years ago.  Particularly when optimized for performance and the 
"classic" start screen is used (so as to make it look like windows 
2000)  Our machines at work are XP, and there is no interest in 
moving.  We just loaded orifice 2003 on a couple machines today. 
Again, it works fine.  Not as quirky as orifice 2007.  Being EOL, M$ 
is not as anal about their fees as they are with the latest.   Not 
many businesses on Win 7 or 8.  More likely to go penguin than 
support Bill's old age.  We buy used hardware for $30 to $50.  Keeps 
the IT budget in line.


If I were looking for a winders laptop, I'd be looking for XP 
compatibility too.


That said, for an XP laptop, my choice is a Macbook.  Use the mac for 
most things then run XP with bootcamp or as a VM for what you need to.


I have been running that way for several years.  Last 2 years, no xp. 
once in a while I wish I had it, but never enough to feel it is woth 
the time to load on my VM on the macbook.  Remember when the macbook 
came out, it was the fastest Winders laptop, either bare or with 
bootcamp.  SWMBO had a hard drive die a year ago on the very first 
edition of white Macbook.  What's that? 7 years old now?  My early 
macbook unibody had a fan go out last year.  Still not bad for 5 
years or whatever it is.


I do freely admit that I have winxp machines available for the times 
I really need xp.  Otherwise, I'd have broken down and installed it 
with bootcamp or the VM.




I have over 30,000 clients running XP, which are being replaced with 
Windows 7 machines at the rate of about 5,000/year. At that rate I 
will be all in on Windows 7 when Windows 8 is approaching end of 
life.


Say what you want, but XP has been good for us from an enterprise 
standpoint. 7 is OK but has its quirks.


And we are finally moving to DFS! Hallelujah! No more drive mapping!

Dan who is migrating a file server right now courtesy of Robocopy

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On Jan 24, 2013, at 7:46 PM, Rick Knoble  wrote:


 On Jan 24, 2013, at 11:00 AM, "M G"  wrote:

 Yes I know that linux of some flavor or another may be 
installable but I have some older programs that require no later 
then XP in order to run. No I don't want to run XP in a virtual 
machine under linux or win7 as that is to me just too cumbersome.


 My thought is to see if anyone knows of a laptop that I can look 
for that has drivers for XP and will allow XP to be installed. I 
would prefer one that runs at 2+ ghz, has all the normal plugin 
possibilities, and will take a 6 gig drive or bigger. I don't need 
a huge screen and don't really like the keyboards that have a 
numeric keypad added in the right of the normal keyboard as I 
don't use it and it puts the keyboard off center and it feels 
wrong.


 So there it is. I would be grateful for any suggestions.



 Ugh. Windows XP is almost at the end of its life cycle. All new 
computers that are Windows based are shipping with Windows 8, which 
is three generations newer than XP. You are hanging on to an 
obsolete operating system. Windows 7 will run most XP programs in 
"XP mode" I believe.

 A Lenovo T-60 or T-61 would fit your needs nicely. As would a Dell D-630.
 I run Linux. Much like Apple products "it just works". I do have 
to boot into Windows soon though, TurboTax doesn't make a Linux 
version.


 Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT Cold weather issues

2013-01-24 Thread Peter Frederick
Chimney top dampers have a stainless steel cable that runs up form the  
fireplace to a damper sealed to the top of the flue.  Since they don't  
get really hot, you can use a gasket of some sort there and seal the  
damned chimney when you don't have a fire in it.  Even proper cast  
iron dampers don't seal really well, winter or summer.


One of ours is missing, broke years ago and fell out.  We do have  
fireplace doors installed, but thats not really a good seal.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] R320CDI

2013-01-24 Thread WILTON
Yes, of course, he drives A LOT.  Vehicle looks/seems nearly new.  New 
brakes/rotors today.  New tires tomorrow.  Son told me today that a woman 
lawyer riding with 'im this morning asked him if that "chattering" on 
acceleration were the tranny slipping.  I think he should repair or replace 
it as necessary ASAP and keep driving it.  I think value is significantly 
reduced with it slipping/chattering.  He's in some hassle with stealer/MB 
about it - don't know the details.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Craig" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] R320CDI



On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:23:55 -0500 "WILTON"  wrote:


Son said today that his '07 R320CDI has ~250 kmi on it.  torque
converter has been chattering for several months - 50+ kmi.


So he drives somewhat north of 40 kmi/year. That's a lot.

What is the rest of the vehicle like?

Is he going to repair or replace it?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Cold weather issues

2013-01-24 Thread Scott Ritchey
When I repainted the inside of the 9 original rooms of my 1854 house, I used
LOTS of caulk to seal all the gaps.  I also replaced all the old wood
windows.  Even though the walls have little to no insulation, this sealing
was a huge improvement.  

Scott
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Frederick
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 10:56 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Cold weather issues

Yup.  Good enough for me, since I don't plan to put up a wall cover of  
any kind soon.

I do need to put some insulation on the exposed part of the basement  
walls (2 ft or more on the south side) -- a layer of brick and a  
cement block aren't going to have much thermal resistance.

Big thing though is to seal things up so you don't have a hurricane  
blowing through.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Engine Miss

2013-01-24 Thread OK Don
OK - I've forgotten what model/year Frosch is. However, I had to replace
the plug wires to cure random missing in the '78 450SLC. A new set from Q
made a world of difference. Of course, this only works if the fuel
injection system is working fine :-)
The all iron 117 engine is almost indestructable. Don't rebuild unless you
have more reason then just missing. I rebuilt mine when it would no longer
start. I found that ALL the rubber in the intake system was dried, cracked
and leaking - and there's a LOT of rubber in that system. There's a web of
rubber tubing under the two piece intake manifold (that is joined by rubber
tubing) that you can't even see without pulling the intake manifold off.

On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 8:41 PM, Rick Knoble  wrote:

> On Jan 24, 2013, at 7:39 PM, "clay monroe"  wrote:
>
> > Questions for the group.
> >
> > Is it bad if I just drive the car anyway and save up for more work to
> solve the mystery?
>
>
> If the problem is a fuel injector not working at all, no. If it is an
> ignition problem, maybe. A cylinder not firing will cause fuel to wash down
> that cylinder and contaminate the oil in the crankcase. It is probably best
> not to drive it.
>
> > Rebuild the engine to put it back into spec?
>
> If the compression is okay, there are no massive oil leaks, and no odd
> internal engine noises why bother? Do you have that much extra coin laying
> around AND a wife that will let you spend it? I should be so lucky.
>
> > Drive it and save up to do a head gasket replacement at which time
> everything would be clean and sealed up by fresh gaskets instead of the 40
> year old stuff?
>
> Park it and have the Indy sort it out, if you feel over whelmed by it. I
> am not familiar with Mercedes alloy V8's. If it is common for particular
> head problems to arise on that engine, address those issues. If it is
> pretty much bullet proof, leave it alone.
>
> > What other things could be causing a miss?
>
> A four stroke gasoline engine needs fuel, ignition, and compression to
> run. Determine which is lacking, and correct it. I know, easier said than
> done.
>
> Does it miss at idle? Only under load? What are the conditions that cause
> the miss fire? A shop with an old Sun machine could help here. The old
> oscilloscopes were great for troubleshooting points ignition problems. I
> still remember a few things about how to read one. What shows up as point
> bounce, bad wires, etc.
>
> My WAG as to your problem would be a heat related deterioration of the
> injection wiring. That is a WAG, as I know nothing of Mercedes V8's.
>
> Rick
> Who feels old now.
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Re: [MBZ] Worn rear tires

2013-01-24 Thread Dieselhead
I second this.  If all the rear links ere replaced except the LCA, 
and its bearing in the wheel carrier, then you are left with 
LCA/bearing in the wheel carrier/inner bushing, spring rubber mounts, 
and a slight chance the springs are sprung.



Inner bushing and outer bearing on the spring link.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] Worn rear tires

2013-01-24 Thread Max Dillon
Also bushing at the bottom of the carrier could cause your problem.
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Max Dillon  wrote:

>Control arm has an inner bushing which is a real pain to change.
>
>When all is right with the suspension, rear wheels will wear first, in
>the inner edge.  You must rotate them.


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Re: [MBZ] Worn rear tires

2013-01-24 Thread Brian Toscano
You could even have a broken spring or two and not necessarily notice until
you pulled it apart.

On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Max Dillon wrote:

> Also bushing at the bottom of the carrier could cause your problem.
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20
>
> Max Dillon  wrote:
>
> >Control arm has an inner bushing which is a real pain to change.
> >
> >When all is right with the suspension, rear wheels will wear first, in
> >the inner edge.  You must rotate them.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Cold weather starting.

2013-01-24 Thread clay monroe
Not sure how old your car is, but used to be you could use around a gallon of 
87 octane per tank to thin it out.  At least that is what owners manual said 
for Gump.

clay

On Jan 24, 2013, at 7:21 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

> Not sure if block heater worked but it started after three cranks!  I ended 
> up getting gelled up on 295 just outside of Portland. I dumped a half quart 
> of PowerService Diesel 911 and it started right up! That stuff is amazing!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 24, 2013, at 7:23 AM, Jon Agne  wrote:
> 
>> Dimitri.
>> 
>> My thermometer is reading -4F.  Hope your block heater works!
>> 
>> Jon
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 23, 2013, at 9:26 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> 
>>> My 240D started in 2 degree weather this am up in Maine! That's the coldest 
>>> I've ever tried to start a diesel.  Tomorrow am will be colder so I'll plug 
>>> in the block heater.
>>> 
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[MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks

2013-01-24 Thread OK Don
We are considering replacing the van with a pickup, as we're mostly using
it with the seats out to haul stuff, not people these days. My car wrenchs
are now airplane wrenchs, so I want a new one with warranty, etc. I'm also
cheap, so don't want to spring the extra $7000+ for a Diesel engine. We
occasionally haul concrete blocks, sacks of cement, 4X8 sheets of plywood,
etc. I once WAY over loaded the SIL's 1/2 ton RAM to the scary point, just
by filling the bed to the top with 8X16 concrete blocks.

We're thinking of a tow packaged 1/2 ton, or a 3/4 ton, basic work truck,
small cab, 8' bed. It looks like Dodge is hungry and under pricing the
others in the 1/2 ton market, but the payload specs are lower.

Any opinions (or even facts?) that would over ride price in choosing
between Ford, GM, and Chrysler trucks?

1/2 ton or 3/4 ton?

New effecient V6, or old thirsty V8 engine?

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Re: [MBZ] Engine Miss

2013-01-24 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jan 24, 2013, at 10:25 PM, "OK Don"  wrote:

> 1957 C182A


Cessna?

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Engine Miss

2013-01-24 Thread clay monroe
All new wires and plugs with good spark all around.  Cylinder does not fail 
when ignition wires are removed.  Compression is within reason.  Previously 
tested the injection loom and all connections showed good power to each 
injector.  Tests done by removing wires to each injector, which identified the 
non working part,  Indy replaced the injector with a used good one but he has 
no way to test individual injectors for pop or operation.  That did not fix it.

No black smoke on start up, so all fuel is being burned.  

Vacuum issue?  



On Jan 24, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:

> On Jan 24, 2013, at 7:39 PM, "clay monroe"  wrote:
> 
>> Questions for the group.
>> 
>> Is it bad if I just drive the car anyway and save up for more work to solve 
>> the mystery?
> 
> 
> If the problem is a fuel injector not working at all, no. If it is an 
> ignition problem, maybe. A cylinder not firing will cause fuel to wash down 
> that cylinder and contaminate the oil in the crankcase. It is probably best 
> not to drive it.
> 
>> Rebuild the engine to put it back into spec?
> 
> If the compression is okay, there are no massive oil leaks, and no odd 
> internal engine noises why bother? Do you have that much extra coin laying 
> around AND a wife that will let you spend it? I should be so lucky. 
> 
>> Drive it and save up to do a head gasket replacement at which time 
>> everything would be clean and sealed up by fresh gaskets instead of the 40 
>> year old stuff?
> 
> Park it and have the Indy sort it out, if you feel over whelmed by it. I am 
> not familiar with Mercedes alloy V8's. If it is common for particular head 
> problems to arise on that engine, address those issues. If it is pretty much 
> bullet proof, leave it alone. 
> 
>> What other things could be causing a miss?
> 
> A four stroke gasoline engine needs fuel, ignition, and compression to run. 
> Determine which is lacking, and correct it. I know, easier said than done. 
> 
> Does it miss at idle? Only under load? What are the conditions that cause the 
> miss fire? A shop with an old Sun machine could help here. The old 
> oscilloscopes were great for troubleshooting points ignition problems. I 
> still remember a few things about how to read one. What shows up as point 
> bounce, bad wires, etc. 
> 
> My WAG as to your problem would be a heat related deterioration of the 
> injection wiring. That is a WAG, as I know nothing of Mercedes V8's. 
> 
> Rick
> Who feels old now. 
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Re: [MBZ] Engine Miss

2013-01-24 Thread OK Don
Yes - Cessna 182A, 1957. I'm replacing the outer gear support bracket now.
I also have a Wittman tailwind project that is "90% complete, with 90% left
to do".

On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 11:18 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:

> On Jan 24, 2013, at 10:25 PM, "OK Don"  wrote:
>
> > 1957 C182A
>
>
> Cessna?
>
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Engine Miss

2013-01-24 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jan 24, 2013, at 11:22 PM, "clay monroe"  wrote:

> Vacuum issue?  


If I recall correctly, you had posted before that this car has under hood 
catalytic reactors for emissions control? I had a similar vintage BMW 5 series 
and the under hood heat was substantial. I would think all the rubber and 
plastic bits that are vacuum related would be toast, literally. 

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Re: [MBZ] OT - pickem-up trucks

2013-01-24 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jan 24, 2013, at 10:57 PM, "OK Don"  wrote:

> Any opinions (or even facts?) that would over ride price in choosing
> between Ford, GM, and Chrysler trucks?
> 
> 1/2 ton or 3/4 ton?


My cousin just bought a new GMC. He picked it because the bed is somewhat 
lower, and therefore easier to load than the Ford or Dodge trucks. 

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Engine Miss

2013-01-24 Thread clay monroe
Being a '74 I am not sure if it does have catalyst.  This car seems to have 
been put together right on the cusp of upgrades and changes from 1973 to full 
1974.  Has some of the older systems and some of the newer, as if they used 
what was left over on the line and had not been upgraded to new inventory.

It does get hot and the hood pad will need updating.  Some of the plastic and 
rubber parts are worn.  If vacuum under the hood is going, may as well get it 
fixed, as there are vac issues elsewhere (locks and climate)

clay

On Jan 24, 2013, at 9:33 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:

> On Jan 24, 2013, at 11:22 PM, "clay monroe"  wrote:
> 
>> Vacuum issue?  
> 
> 
> If I recall correctly, you had posted before that this car has under hood 
> catalytic reactors for emissions control? I had a similar vintage BMW 5 
> series and the under hood heat was substantial. I would think all the rubber 
> and plastic bits that are vacuum related would be toast, literally. 
> 
> Rick
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