Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[clay via Mercedes]

I used that in the E300D and had no issues.  The car was made unhappy by a dame 
in a SUV, but revived by a Ruskie who did a quick body panel fix and tried to 
flip the car for thrice what I sold if for


clay

> On May 13, 2017, at 5:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Can I use Mobil1 75W-90 synthetic gear oil in my differential?  I just 
> wondered since I wasn’t sure if that was an issue if I had ASD.
> 
> -D
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Steam cleaner

[clay via Mercedes]

I have had great results with professional steam cleaning of the engine bay.

Both #1 boy and I paid to have our engine bays made to look almost like new.  
There were no adverse effects either electronically or otherwise.  The steam is 
no more invasive than standard road spray, where a pressure washer would have 
lots of power behind it such that it would get really deep

clay

> On May 13, 2017, at 5:12 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> The plot thickens...
> 
> http://www.motorweek.org/features/goss_garage/engine_cleaning
> 
> "But there is one thing you do not do, and that is you do not use a steam 
> cleaner. Everybody says, oh, I’m going to go get my engine steam cleaned. 
> Well, that’s not what you do these days because steam can actually migrate 
> into wire connecters under the hood, and once that happens, once it’s inside, 
> it condenses and now you have water inside that connecter. That causes 
> corrosion. The corrosion causes check engine lights and performance problems 
> and failed emissions and so on. So it’s garden hose or a pressure washer, 
> never a steam cleaner. If you keep the under hood clean, all of these things 
> will not be an issue."
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Re: [MBZ] Steam cleaner

[clay via Mercedes]

Uh, maybe

I have something like this and have had mixed results depending on the 
application.

It is great for interior work.  Does wonders on surfaces and some detailing for 
the dash.  Head light and tail light action on seals and other nooks and 
crannies.  The heat does some good on the rubber seals at windows so that you 
can get the grunge loose enough to wipe away.

IF you are thinking of under the hood, the thing is just too impotent to really 
do much.  A bigger pressurized steam machine will produce enough calories to 
actually cut through crap enough that you could wipe the gunk off.  At least 
enough that an application of brake cleaner will dissolve and remove the last 
bit

clay


> On May 13, 2017, at 4:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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> I wonder if this would have any useful purpose for use around vehicles
> 
> https://www.harborfreight.com/1500-watt-steam-cleaner-kit-63042.html
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Cruise control

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

On Sat, 13 May 2017 16:02:43 -0700
Jim Cathey via Mercedes  wrote:

> Yes, paint stripper is required.  You don't dip the board in it!  You only
> paint it onto the back side, where the solder joints are, CAREFULLY, so
> that it doesn't get where you don't want it.  Then wash it and the
> conformal coat off, and resolder.
> 
> -- Jim
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So you use the oxalate type stripper since you wash it off, and you use a brush 
or sponge to wash off the oxalate?
On the pushbutton units in the 123 cars, you have to re-solder on the top where 
the two vertical pc boards are soldered to the main board. I suppose that just 
takes a bit more care in not getting the oxalate on components.
Thanks,
Gerry

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[MBZ] Where are the lights?

[clay via Mercedes]

I am having trouble getting the bulbs to behave in the cluster on Allen.

The things have never responded to the rheostat when I turned the headlights 
on.  The rest of the stuff is also not really making photons.  The fiber optic 
stuff does not seem to make light on the cluster, but the radio and ashtray 
light up.

I pulled the cluster a few days ago and gave it a test.  The rheostat is not 
working, as the spring unrolled and did not make decent contact anyway.  I used 
the multimeter to chase things.  Used 12v to see where electrons flowed.  They 
seemed to flow enough between ground and spots on the rheostat.  They flow 
across the ground strap on the cluster.  They flow well enough to put power to 
the ground and apply to the the spot on the board at the bulbs both light up.  
But, I can not figure out where the electrons are falling off.

Anybody ever have this happen?

 


clay 

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1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
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[MBZ] Ponton In TIn Man's Area

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/6126529872.html

Ponton in Dan G's neck of the woods...

Rick

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[MBZ] One for Wilton

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/10237/the-u-s-air-forces-last-tail-gunner-has-retired

-D
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Re: [MBZ] O/T: Innovations, Old and New

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Both of them are very cool - thanks for sharing!

On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 6:11 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Listers:
>
>
>
> A couple of interesting developments:
>
>
>
> https://aleteia.org/2017/05/12/after-500-years-leonardo-
> da-vincis-music-machine-is-brought-to-life/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> https://phys.org/news/2017-03-patents-waterlike-polymer-
> high-temperature-ceramics.html#nRlv
>
>
>
> Greg
>
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Can I use Mobil1 75W-90 synthetic gear oil in my differential?  I just wondered 
since I wasn’t sure if that was an issue if I had ASD.

-D



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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rear Wheel Bearing R 91 300D 2.5T

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Big PITA.  You need a good press and adapters to get the old bearing out and 
the new one in.

Bearing failures are quite rare, and result in excessive runout and low 
frequency thumping or grinding, not  a whine.

Check the diff and the center bearing, both are much more likely sources, 
especially if it changes with load changes.  Bearings are the same all the 
time, doesn't matter if you are driving or coasting.

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] Steam cleaner

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

The plot thickens...

http://www.motorweek.org/features/goss_garage/engine_cleaning

"But there is one thing you do not do, and that is you do not use a steam 
cleaner. Everybody says, oh, I’m going to go get my engine steam cleaned. Well, 
that’s not what you do these days because steam can actually migrate into wire 
connecters under the hood, and once that happens, once it’s inside, it 
condenses and now you have water inside that connecter. That causes corrosion. 
The corrosion causes check engine lights and performance problems and failed 
emissions and so on. So it’s garden hose or a pressure washer, never a steam 
cleaner. If you keep the under hood clean, all of these things will not be an 
issue."

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Re: [MBZ] Steam cleaner

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Friend of mine uses one of these to remove wallpaper when he flips houses. 
Might prove useful on carpet and fabric seats, I don't know. 
Doesn't look like what you'd use to 'steam clean' an engine. 

https://www.amazon.com/McCulloch-MC1275-Heavy-Duty-Steam-Cleaner/dp/BDF0RB

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Re: [MBZ] Steam cleaner

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I was more interested in steam cleaning engine compartments maybe.

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> On May 13, 2017, at 7:05 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I have a carpet cleaner that uses hot water that has an upholstery attachment 
> (a little hand held carpet steam cleaner that sucks up the water) and it does 
> a great job on the tough stuff.  This thing just makes steam, it doesn’t suck 
> stuff up like a carpet cleaner.
> 
> This is what I use on car carpeting.  Wicked awesome stuff.  Gets a lot of 
> nasty stains out of the carpet just using a stiff plastic scrub brush.
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/Tuff-Stuff-Purpose-Cleaner-Cleaning/dp/B0009PCPNQ
> 
> And it’s cheap, like $3.50 a can at Wally World.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On May 13, 2017, at 7:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I wonder if this would have any useful purpose for use around vehicles
>> 
>> https://www.harborfreight.com/1500-watt-steam-cleaner-kit-63042.html
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Steam cleaner

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I have a carpet cleaner that uses hot water that has an upholstery attachment 
(a little hand held carpet steam cleaner that sucks up the water) and it does a 
great job on the tough stuff.  This thing just makes steam, it doesn’t suck 
stuff up like a carpet cleaner.

This is what I use on car carpeting.  Wicked awesome stuff.  Gets a lot of 
nasty stains out of the carpet just using a stiff plastic scrub brush.

https://www.amazon.com/Tuff-Stuff-Purpose-Cleaner-Cleaning/dp/B0009PCPNQ

And it’s cheap, like $3.50 a can at Wally World.

-D

 
> On May 13, 2017, at 7:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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> 
> I wonder if this would have any useful purpose for use around vehicles
> 
> https://www.harborfreight.com/1500-watt-steam-cleaner-kit-63042.html
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Re: [MBZ] I Listed This After a Long Night of Hookers and Blow

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

Me too. Well at least it has a manual transmission.

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> On May 12, 2017, at 8:54 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I was thinking there were bullet holes in the trunk as well.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On May 12, 2017, at 8:52 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> That is one car that was rode hard and put up wet. Are those bullet holes in 
>> the trunk? Looks to have a factory crate motor though.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 12, 2017, at 5:51 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> $5500
>>> 
>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-220d-/252933726949?rmvSB=true_ref=http%253A%252F%252Frover.ebay.com%252Frover%252F1%252F711-53200-19255-0%252F1%253Fcampid%253D5336391335%2526toolid%253D10001%2526mpre%253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.ebay.com%25252Fitm%25252F1970-Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-220d-%25252F252933726949%2526srcrot%253D711-53200-19255-0%2526rvr_id%253D1213965928302_noapp=true
>>> 
>>> -D
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[MBZ] Steam cleaner

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I wonder if this would have any useful purpose for use around vehicles

https://www.harborfreight.com/1500-watt-steam-cleaner-kit-63042.html


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[MBZ] O/T: Innovations, Old and New

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Listers:

 

A couple of interesting developments:

 

https://aleteia.org/2017/05/12/after-500-years-leonardo-da-vincis-music-machine-is-brought-to-life/

 

 

 

https://phys.org/news/2017-03-patents-waterlike-polymer-high-temperature-ceramics.html#nRlv

 

Greg

 

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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rear Wheel Bearing R 91 300D 2.5T

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I have never had to do that job, but I have heard it's a real whore of a job.

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On May 13, 2017, at 6:01 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
wrote:

>> 
>> rear wheel bearings which would run around $700.  That's a lot to spend on
>> a 26 year old car.
> 
> 
> By all accounts this is a real bastard of a job, and requires a special
> tool.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Cruise control

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Yes, paint stripper is required.  You don't dip the board in it!  You only
paint it onto the back side, where the solder joints are, CAREFULLY, so
that it doesn't get where you don't want it.  Then wash it and the
conformal coat off, and resolder.

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rear Wheel Bearing R 91 300D 2.5T

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

>
> rear wheel bearings which would run around $700.  That's a lot to spend on
> a 26 year old car.


By all accounts this is a real bastard of a job, and requires a special
tool.

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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 13 May 2017 18:12:13 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> That’s where I looked first.  I was just pointing out that they were
> close by if they did have them…

It sounded like you had your keys and hat in hand and were walking out
the door.


Craig


> > On May 13, 2017, at 6:06 PM, Craig via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > On Sat, 13 May 2017 18:03:29 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> >> I wonder if HF has them?  They’re abut 5 minutes from my house. I’m
> >> going to look….
> > 
> > You might try looking on their website first ...

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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rear Wheel Bearing R 91 300D 2.5T

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Just a thought.

My rusty '87 300TD had a whine at 40 to 60 mph, that turned out to be the 
driveshaft center bearing.

YMMV


Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
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Cc: Kaleb Striplin
Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 Rear Wheel Bearing R 91 300D 2.5T

I'm assuming he checked to make sure there was oil in the diff, or that the 
noise was not the diff?

> On May 13, 2017, at 1:57 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>
> Hi Gang,
> I sent this a few days ago but it never appeared - must be lost in cyberspace 
> I guess?
> Anyway, I am getting a whine at highway speeds (above 45mph) and my indy said 
> they thought it was the rear wheel bearings which would run around $700.  
> That's a lot too spend on a 26 year old car.  But it  is a MB diesel so I am 
> considering it.  Before I allow the indy to work on it I was wondering how 
> big a job it is?  Didn't see anything in the Archives so here I am.
>  What dya say gang?
>  LarryT


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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

No but they are all over eBay. 

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> On May 13, 2017, at 5:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I wonder if HF has them?  They’re abut 5 minutes from my house. I’m going to 
> look….
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On May 13, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I would get the Bushing pliers for sure
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 13, 2017, at 4:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Did the final round for the day.
>>> 
>>> Cleaned front carpets and mats.  They cleaned up quite well.
>>> 
>>> Got the windshield washer reservoir installed with a new grommet on the 
>>> pump.  Sadly, they dumped the washer fluid heater and redirected the 
>>> coolant flow, but at least someone had the foresight to get a new cap for 
>>> the reservoir rather than keep the original which would have had the holes 
>>> for the heater pipes in it.
>>> 
>>> Had to aim a couple of the windshield washer jets.  Dental picks are nice 
>>> for this, as I didn’t have one of those “T” pins that also work well for 
>>> the job.
>>> 
>>> Replaced all of the fuses with copper fuses.  Popped the relays in the back 
>>> of the fuse box and cleaned pins with some DeOxIt.  Replaced the 30 amp 
>>> fuse on what I suspect is the auxiliary fan fuse (square, green, with a 
>>> blade fuse as part of the relay?)
>>> 
>>> Still shifts hard, but not as bad as when the vacuum line was disconnected. 
>>>  I’ll need to get back under the car and check the modulator, as it is 
>>> probably leaking.  It’s the original with the rubber cap, so I suspect it 
>>> probably is.  Also noticed the shift linkage bushings are gone.  I mean 
>>> GONE.  I wonder if I should bite the bullet and buy one of the special 
>>> pliers?  Not looking forward to that job, as the tunnel is really, really 
>>> tight on this car.
>>> 
>>> All in all a pretty good day, despite the auxiliary fan debacle.  I’m 
>>> bummed that i couldn’t resurrect them, but they were pretty much toast long 
>>> before I got to them from the looks of things.  Not a lot to do tomorrow as 
>>> I’m at the point of needing parts.  I’ll test the vacuum modulator on the 
>>> transmission an that will probably be the extent of the work I do.  Gotta 
>>> start getting the 300D prepared for delivery, as the buyer comes a week 
>>> from Monday to drive it back to Grand Rapids….
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 13, 2017, at 4:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Got under the car.
 
 Looks pretty good, no surprises.  There are two pieces of flex used to 
 “delete” the catalyst and one of them is leaking.  I’m thinking I’ll take 
 the car to my local custom exhaust guy and just ask him if he can fix the 
 leak and hope he doesn’t want to get all official on me and insist that he 
 has to install a new catalyst.  If he does I’ll just have to dig into it a 
 little more to get the leak sealed up.
 
 Rubber and joints are all fairly new and in good shape.  Definitely needs 
 new brake hoses, but that’s no surprise.  Other than the missing sound 
 deadening panel underneath (anyone got one they want to part with?) below 
 decks actually looks pretty good.
 
 Transmission vacuum box was disconnected, as in the line looks like it 
 just came loose.  Reconnected it and will test drive in a bit.
 
 Was hoping to bleed brakes while I had the car in the air but I’m running 
 out of steam.  I’m going to clean up, maybe hit the mats with some carpet 
 cleaner, and call it a day.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I did check the EGR and the valve flange is blocked off with a very thin metal 
gasket, sort of the “coke can” approach.  Thank goodness, this gives me some 
hope.

-D


> On May 13, 2017, at 11:44 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> 
> I just try to understand the motivation.  Something like the EGR gains 
> nothing, not to mention you’re bypassing filtered air into the engine.  Just 
> like the lack of a cabin air filter.
> 
> Grrr.
> 
> It is a testament to these cars that they survive stuff like this.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On May 13, 2017, at 11:38 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> It's to annoying to get a car in that has had all sorts of short cuts done 
>> that would have been simple to fix the right way. I have run into that with 
>> the latest e300 I picked up. 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That’s where I looked first.  I was just pointing out that they were close by 
if they did have them…

-D


> On May 13, 2017, at 6:06 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 13 May 2017 18:03:29 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> I wonder if HF has them?  They’re abut 5 minutes from my house. I’m
>> going to look….
> 
> You might try looking on their website first ...
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Nope.

-D


> On May 13, 2017, at 6:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I wonder if HF has them?  They’re abut 5 minutes from my house. I’m going to 
> look….
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On May 13, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I would get the Bushing pliers for sure
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 13, 2017, at 4:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Did the final round for the day.
>>> 
>>> Cleaned front carpets and mats.  They cleaned up quite well.
>>> 
>>> Got the windshield washer reservoir installed with a new grommet on the 
>>> pump.  Sadly, they dumped the washer fluid heater and redirected the 
>>> coolant flow, but at least someone had the foresight to get a new cap for 
>>> the reservoir rather than keep the original which would have had the holes 
>>> for the heater pipes in it.
>>> 
>>> Had to aim a couple of the windshield washer jets.  Dental picks are nice 
>>> for this, as I didn’t have one of those “T” pins that also work well for 
>>> the job.
>>> 
>>> Replaced all of the fuses with copper fuses.  Popped the relays in the back 
>>> of the fuse box and cleaned pins with some DeOxIt.  Replaced the 30 amp 
>>> fuse on what I suspect is the auxiliary fan fuse (square, green, with a 
>>> blade fuse as part of the relay?)
>>> 
>>> Still shifts hard, but not as bad as when the vacuum line was disconnected. 
>>>  I’ll need to get back under the car and check the modulator, as it is 
>>> probably leaking.  It’s the original with the rubber cap, so I suspect it 
>>> probably is.  Also noticed the shift linkage bushings are gone.  I mean 
>>> GONE.  I wonder if I should bite the bullet and buy one of the special 
>>> pliers?  Not looking forward to that job, as the tunnel is really, really 
>>> tight on this car.
>>> 
>>> All in all a pretty good day, despite the auxiliary fan debacle.  I’m 
>>> bummed that i couldn’t resurrect them, but they were pretty much toast long 
>>> before I got to them from the looks of things.  Not a lot to do tomorrow as 
>>> I’m at the point of needing parts.  I’ll test the vacuum modulator on the 
>>> transmission an that will probably be the extent of the work I do.  Gotta 
>>> start getting the 300D prepared for delivery, as the buyer comes a week 
>>> from Monday to drive it back to Grand Rapids….
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 13, 2017, at 4:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Got under the car.
 
 Looks pretty good, no surprises.  There are two pieces of flex used to 
 “delete” the catalyst and one of them is leaking.  I’m thinking I’ll take 
 the car to my local custom exhaust guy and just ask him if he can fix the 
 leak and hope he doesn’t want to get all official on me and insist that he 
 has to install a new catalyst.  If he does I’ll just have to dig into it a 
 little more to get the leak sealed up.
 
 Rubber and joints are all fairly new and in good shape.  Definitely needs 
 new brake hoses, but that’s no surprise.  Other than the missing sound 
 deadening panel underneath (anyone got one they want to part with?) below 
 decks actually looks pretty good.
 
 Transmission vacuum box was disconnected, as in the line looks like it 
 just came loose.  Reconnected it and will test drive in a bit.
 
 Was hoping to bleed brakes while I had the car in the air but I’m running 
 out of steam.  I’m going to clean up, maybe hit the mats with some carpet 
 cleaner, and call it a day.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 13 May 2017 18:03:29 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I wonder if HF has them?  They’re abut 5 minutes from my house. I’m
> going to look….

You might try looking on their website first ...


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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I wonder if HF has them?  They’re abut 5 minutes from my house. I’m going to 
look….

-D


> On May 13, 2017, at 6:00 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I would get the Bushing pliers for sure
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 13, 2017, at 4:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Did the final round for the day.
>> 
>> Cleaned front carpets and mats.  They cleaned up quite well.
>> 
>> Got the windshield washer reservoir installed with a new grommet on the 
>> pump.  Sadly, they dumped the washer fluid heater and redirected the coolant 
>> flow, but at least someone had the foresight to get a new cap for the 
>> reservoir rather than keep the original which would have had the holes for 
>> the heater pipes in it.
>> 
>> Had to aim a couple of the windshield washer jets.  Dental picks are nice 
>> for this, as I didn’t have one of those “T” pins that also work well for the 
>> job.
>> 
>> Replaced all of the fuses with copper fuses.  Popped the relays in the back 
>> of the fuse box and cleaned pins with some DeOxIt.  Replaced the 30 amp fuse 
>> on what I suspect is the auxiliary fan fuse (square, green, with a blade 
>> fuse as part of the relay?)
>> 
>> Still shifts hard, but not as bad as when the vacuum line was disconnected.  
>> I’ll need to get back under the car and check the modulator, as it is 
>> probably leaking.  It’s the original with the rubber cap, so I suspect it 
>> probably is.  Also noticed the shift linkage bushings are gone.  I mean 
>> GONE.  I wonder if I should bite the bullet and buy one of the special 
>> pliers?  Not looking forward to that job, as the tunnel is really, really 
>> tight on this car.
>> 
>> All in all a pretty good day, despite the auxiliary fan debacle.  I’m bummed 
>> that i couldn’t resurrect them, but they were pretty much toast long before 
>> I got to them from the looks of things.  Not a lot to do tomorrow as I’m at 
>> the point of needing parts.  I’ll test the vacuum modulator on the 
>> transmission an that will probably be the extent of the work I do.  Gotta 
>> start getting the 300D prepared for delivery, as the buyer comes a week from 
>> Monday to drive it back to Grand Rapids….
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 13, 2017, at 4:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Got under the car.
>>> 
>>> Looks pretty good, no surprises.  There are two pieces of flex used to 
>>> “delete” the catalyst and one of them is leaking.  I’m thinking I’ll take 
>>> the car to my local custom exhaust guy and just ask him if he can fix the 
>>> leak and hope he doesn’t want to get all official on me and insist that he 
>>> has to install a new catalyst.  If he does I’ll just have to dig into it a 
>>> little more to get the leak sealed up.
>>> 
>>> Rubber and joints are all fairly new and in good shape.  Definitely needs 
>>> new brake hoses, but that’s no surprise.  Other than the missing sound 
>>> deadening panel underneath (anyone got one they want to part with?) below 
>>> decks actually looks pretty good.
>>> 
>>> Transmission vacuum box was disconnected, as in the line looks like it just 
>>> came loose.  Reconnected it and will test drive in a bit.
>>> 
>>> Was hoping to bleed brakes while I had the car in the air but I’m running 
>>> out of steam.  I’m going to clean up, maybe hit the mats with some carpet 
>>> cleaner, and call it a day.
>>> 
>>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I would get the Bushing pliers for sure

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 13, 2017, at 4:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Did the final round for the day.
> 
> Cleaned front carpets and mats.  They cleaned up quite well.
> 
> Got the windshield washer reservoir installed with a new grommet on the pump. 
>  Sadly, they dumped the washer fluid heater and redirected the coolant flow, 
> but at least someone had the foresight to get a new cap for the reservoir 
> rather than keep the original which would have had the holes for the heater 
> pipes in it.
> 
> Had to aim a couple of the windshield washer jets.  Dental picks are nice for 
> this, as I didn’t have one of those “T” pins that also work well for the job.
> 
> Replaced all of the fuses with copper fuses.  Popped the relays in the back 
> of the fuse box and cleaned pins with some DeOxIt.  Replaced the 30 amp fuse 
> on what I suspect is the auxiliary fan fuse (square, green, with a blade fuse 
> as part of the relay?)
> 
> Still shifts hard, but not as bad as when the vacuum line was disconnected.  
> I’ll need to get back under the car and check the modulator, as it is 
> probably leaking.  It’s the original with the rubber cap, so I suspect it 
> probably is.  Also noticed the shift linkage bushings are gone.  I mean GONE. 
>  I wonder if I should bite the bullet and buy one of the special pliers?  Not 
> looking forward to that job, as the tunnel is really, really tight on this 
> car.
> 
> All in all a pretty good day, despite the auxiliary fan debacle.  I’m bummed 
> that i couldn’t resurrect them, but they were pretty much toast long before I 
> got to them from the looks of things.  Not a lot to do tomorrow as I’m at the 
> point of needing parts.  I’ll test the vacuum modulator on the transmission 
> an that will probably be the extent of the work I do.  Gotta start getting 
> the 300D prepared for delivery, as the buyer comes a week from Monday to 
> drive it back to Grand Rapids….
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On May 13, 2017, at 4:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Got under the car.
>> 
>> Looks pretty good, no surprises.  There are two pieces of flex used to 
>> “delete” the catalyst and one of them is leaking.  I’m thinking I’ll take 
>> the car to my local custom exhaust guy and just ask him if he can fix the 
>> leak and hope he doesn’t want to get all official on me and insist that he 
>> has to install a new catalyst.  If he does I’ll just have to dig into it a 
>> little more to get the leak sealed up.
>> 
>> Rubber and joints are all fairly new and in good shape.  Definitely needs 
>> new brake hoses, but that’s no surprise.  Other than the missing sound 
>> deadening panel underneath (anyone got one they want to part with?) below 
>> decks actually looks pretty good.
>> 
>> Transmission vacuum box was disconnected, as in the line looks like it just 
>> came loose.  Reconnected it and will test drive in a bit.
>> 
>> Was hoping to bleed brakes while I had the car in the air but I’m running 
>> out of steam.  I’m going to clean up, maybe hit the mats with some carpet 
>> cleaner, and call it a day.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Did the final round for the day.

Cleaned front carpets and mats.  They cleaned up quite well.

Got the windshield washer reservoir installed with a new grommet on the pump.  
Sadly, they dumped the washer fluid heater and redirected the coolant flow, but 
at least someone had the foresight to get a new cap for the reservoir rather 
than keep the original which would have had the holes for the heater pipes in 
it.

Had to aim a couple of the windshield washer jets.  Dental picks are nice for 
this, as I didn’t have one of those “T” pins that also work well for the job.

Replaced all of the fuses with copper fuses.  Popped the relays in the back of 
the fuse box and cleaned pins with some DeOxIt.  Replaced the 30 amp fuse on 
what I suspect is the auxiliary fan fuse (square, green, with a blade fuse as 
part of the relay?)

Still shifts hard, but not as bad as when the vacuum line was disconnected.  
I’ll need to get back under the car and check the modulator, as it is probably 
leaking.  It’s the original with the rubber cap, so I suspect it probably is.  
Also noticed the shift linkage bushings are gone.  I mean GONE.  I wonder if I 
should bite the bullet and buy one of the special pliers?  Not looking forward 
to that job, as the tunnel is really, really tight on this car.

All in all a pretty good day, despite the auxiliary fan debacle.  I’m bummed 
that i couldn’t resurrect them, but they were pretty much toast long before I 
got to them from the looks of things.  Not a lot to do tomorrow as I’m at the 
point of needing parts.  I’ll test the vacuum modulator on the transmission an 
that will probably be the extent of the work I do.  Gotta start getting the 
300D prepared for delivery, as the buyer comes a week from Monday to drive it 
back to Grand Rapids….

-D


> On May 13, 2017, at 4:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Got under the car.
> 
> Looks pretty good, no surprises.  There are two pieces of flex used to 
> “delete” the catalyst and one of them is leaking.  I’m thinking I’ll take the 
> car to my local custom exhaust guy and just ask him if he can fix the leak 
> and hope he doesn’t want to get all official on me and insist that he has to 
> install a new catalyst.  If he does I’ll just have to dig into it a little 
> more to get the leak sealed up.
> 
> Rubber and joints are all fairly new and in good shape.  Definitely needs new 
> brake hoses, but that’s no surprise.  Other than the missing sound deadening 
> panel underneath (anyone got one they want to part with?) below decks 
> actually looks pretty good.
> 
> Transmission vacuum box was disconnected, as in the line looks like it just 
> came loose.  Reconnected it and will test drive in a bit.
> 
> Was hoping to bleed brakes while I had the car in the air but I’m running out 
> of steam.  I’m going to clean up, maybe hit the mats with some carpet 
> cleaner, and call it a day.
> 
> -D
> 
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[MBZ] One For Mitch!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

https://jxn.craigslist.org/cto/6114352570.html

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Re: [MBZ] 1972 mercedes benz 350 SL

[clay via Mercedes]

rusted heap that is missing parts.  He called the junk yard and got a very low 
offer for scrap value.  May as well sell it to a person who might keep an SL on 
the road, than have it crushed outright

clay

> On May 12, 2017, at 1:16 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes  
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> $100?
> 
> 
> Fred Moir.
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> Diesel preferred.
> 1972 mercedes benz 350 SL
> 
> http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/pts/6127785455.html
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Got under the car.

Looks pretty good, no surprises.  There are two pieces of flex used to “delete” 
the catalyst and one of them is leaking.  I’m thinking I’ll take the car to my 
local custom exhaust guy and just ask him if he can fix the leak and hope he 
doesn’t want to get all official on me and insist that he has to install a new 
catalyst.  If he does I’ll just have to dig into it a little more to get the 
leak sealed up.

Rubber and joints are all fairly new and in good shape.  Definitely needs new 
brake hoses, but that’s no surprise.  Other than the missing sound deadening 
panel underneath (anyone got one they want to part with?) below decks actually 
looks pretty good.

Transmission vacuum box was disconnected, as in the line looks like it just 
came loose.  Reconnected it and will test drive in a bit.

Was hoping to bleed brakes while I had the car in the air but I’m running out 
of steam.  I’m going to clean up, maybe hit the mats with some carpet cleaner, 
and call it a day.

-D


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Re: [MBZ] Cruise control

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

This is the guy, his name is Kris:

https://sites.google.com/site/mbcruisecontrolrepair/home

He’s pretty good about responding to inquiries.  I sent him one of my bum 
weirdo 350SDL KLIMA relays and he was able to get it limping along for a little 
while  The thought was to give him an example to try out and see if he could 
repair them.

As I said, he did the cruise amp for my 350SDL on short notice - I had him ship 
it to the seller so I could drop it in the car before I set out on the return 
drive.  Been working great ever since.

-D





> On May 13, 2017, at 4:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yeah, that beats $149 for sure.  let us know.
> 
> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 3:07 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Someone said to use paint remover in order to get the waterproof coating
>> off of pc boards before re-soldering. That seemed extreme since paint
>> remover is pretty "strong" and it seems like it would damage components;
>> especially caps. They didn't say whether or not to use water based or
>> solvent type paint remover.
>> Anyone had experience with these?
>> Thanks,
>> Gerry
>> ~~
>>> Classic bad solder joints symptom.  DIY for free, or exchange for
>> rebuilt.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Cruise control

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Yeah, that beats $149 for sure.  let us know.

On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 3:07 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Someone said to use paint remover in order to get the waterproof coating
> off of pc boards before re-soldering. That seemed extreme since paint
> remover is pretty "strong" and it seems like it would damage components;
> especially caps. They didn't say whether or not to use water based or
> solvent type paint remover.
> Anyone had experience with these?
> Thanks,
> Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

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On Sat, 13 May 2017 16:09:04 +
Rick Knoble via Mercedes  wrote:

> Dan says:
> 
> >It is a testament to these cars that they survive stuff like this.
> 
> So do Toyota's. 
> But as Dimitri says
> 
> "Friends don't let friends drive Toyota's."
> 
> Except Gerry. 
> We can make an exception for Gerry.
> He has achieved maturity milestones
> that I will be grateful to achieve one day.   
> 
> Rick

Thanks.
Assuming you mean "age-wise", I hope you do too.
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Re: [MBZ] E300D Arrives!

[clay via Mercedes]

Very nice

clay

> On May 12, 2017, at 8:24 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> You did leave something in the trunk that I need to return, so send me your 
> mailing address off list and I’ll get it back to you ASAP.
> 
> Link to unadulterated pictures as it arrived in the driveway below.  Some 
> observations:
> 
> Fixed the hard shifts already.  Found a vacuum line splitter that had slipped 
> off the check valve at the firewall.  Love those easy fixes!
> 
> “Coffee can” refers to the nice little machined aluminum can on the firewall, 
> as I figured.  Nice setup, even has a gauge to show how much oil has 
> collected.  None.
> 
> AC blows cold, but not ICE COLD.  Fresh load of R134a coming in USPS today.
> 
> Definitely not a turbo, but it’s got pretty decent performance.
> 
> LET THE MARTHA’ING BEGIN
> 
> http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/1995_E300D.html
> 
> -D
> 
>> On May 12, 2017, at 10:37 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I should have concealed a gift of some sort in the car. Lord knows you'd 
>> find it during Martha-ing. And just be clear, it would not have been the 
>> washer fluid tank in the trunk. 
>> 
>> Bob R
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rear Wheel Bearing R 91 300D 2.5T

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

the rear outer axle bearing is more of a rum-room-room sound, or 
whump-whump-whump like a tire with slipped belts, but more grinding than 
a bad tire it is kind of a low growl.  It closer to the sound of a 
starter turning over the engine.  If you have a whine, that is from the 
pinion gear in the diff.  Try putting fresh gear lube in it and drive.  
I had one in a front drive car that quieted down eventually.



The axle brg. is not that hard.  take off the wheel carrier, take it and 
the bearing to a good alignment or general repair shop and have them 
press out the old, and push in the new.


Lucky it not a wagon.  Those are priced like gold.

Or do like I did and buy a used wheel carrier.

Larry Turner via Mercedes 
May 13, 2017 at 2:51 PM
I think it's one side but will have to ask.  I'll have to check the 
WSM to take a look at the Wheel; Carrier so I'll know what I'm talking 
about...


Buy Euro has the rear bearings got <$80 ea.

Thx
Larry




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Re: [MBZ] I Listed This After a Long Night of Hookers and Blow

[clay via Mercedes]

IIRC, the fellow who put Gump up on the bay of fleas wanted a goodly amount for 
the car and it was in not the best condition.  I think he reposted a number of 
times at the high price before giving in and tossing it into the parts car 
posting.

clay


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> 
> $5500
> 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-220d-/252933726949?rmvSB=true_ref=http%253A%252F%252Frover.ebay.com%252Frover%252F1%252F711-53200-19255-0%252F1%253Fcampid%253D5336391335%2526toolid%253D10001%2526mpre%253Dhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.ebay.com%25252Fitm%25252F1970-Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-220d-%25252F252933726949%2526srcrot%253D711-53200-19255-0%2526rvr_id%253D1213965928302_noapp=true
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[MBZ] A wise response ...

[clay via Mercedes]

to DBAG not wanting to sell diesels in USA


https://youtu.be/KHD35pYJNXk 

The new cars will not be zombie or WWIII proof

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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rear Wheel Bearing R 91 300D 2.5T

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

I think it's one side but will have to ask.  I'll have to check the WSM 
to take a look at the Wheel; Carrier so I'll know what I'm talking about...


Buy Euro has the rear bearings got <$80 ea.

Thx
Larry

On 5/13/17 3:01 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Is that price for both sides?  How much is a new wheel carrier (that should 
have a new set of bearings?) from MB?


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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rear Wheel Bearing R 91 300D 2.5T

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I'm assuming he checked to make sure there was oil in the diff, or that the 
noise was not the diff?

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> On May 13, 2017, at 1:57 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Gang,
> I sent this a few days ago but it never appeared - must be lost in cyberspace 
> I guess?
> Anyway, I am getting a whine at highway speeds (above 45mph) and my indy said 
> they thought it was the rear wheel bearings which would run around $700.  
> That's a lot too spend on a 26 year old car.  But it  is a MB diesel so I am 
> considering it.  Before I allow the indy to work on it I was wondering how 
> big a job it is?  Didn't see anything in the Archives so here I am.
> 
> What dya say gang?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Cruise control

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Someone said to use paint remover in order to get the waterproof coating off of 
pc boards before re-soldering. That seemed extreme since paint remover is 
pretty "strong" and it seems like it would damage components; especially caps. 
They didn't say whether or not to use water based or solvent type paint remover.
Anyone had experience with these?
Thanks,
Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rear Wheel Bearing R 91 300D 2.5T

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Is that price for both sides?  How much is a new wheel carrier (that should 
have a new set of bearings?) from MB?
-- 
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'87 300TD
'95 E300

On May 13, 2017 2:57:18 PM EDT, Larry Turner via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Hi Gang,
>I sent this a few days ago but it never appeared - must be lost in 
>cyberspace I guess?
>Anyway, I am getting a whine at highway speeds (above 45mph) and my
>indy 
>said they thought it was the rear wheel bearings which would run around
>
>$700.  That's a lot too spend on a 26 year old car.  But it  is a MB 
>diesel so I am considering it.  Before I allow the indy to work on it I
>
>was wondering how big a job it is?  Didn't see anything in the Archives
>
>so here I am.
>
>What dya say gang?
>
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[MBZ] W124 Rear Wheel Bearing R 91 300D 2.5T

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

Hi Gang,
I sent this a few days ago but it never appeared - must be lost in 
cyberspace I guess?
Anyway, I am getting a whine at highway speeds (above 45mph) and my indy 
said they thought it was the rear wheel bearings which would run around 
$700.  That's a lot too spend on a 26 year old car.  But it  is a MB 
diesel so I am considering it.  Before I allow the indy to work on it I 
was wondering how big a job it is?  Didn't see anything in the Archives 
so here I am.


What dya say gang?

LarryT
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Re: [MBZ] Unfubaring the kids car

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I just about got it bent back into shape. While the radiator is out I need to 
replace the compressor clutch coil, it was dead all last summer. I discovered 
the aux fan is very stiff probably fubar. Really needs to be replaced while I'm 
here. 

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> On May 13, 2017, at 1:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Make the kid jump on it until it's straight . . . .
> 
> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 1:16 PM, fmiser via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>>> Kaleb wrote:
>> 
>>> So he ran over something which pushed the lower radiator support
>>> back and up a little,
>> 
>>> ... but now I need to push it straight down but there is nothing
>>> on the top side really good to press with.
>> 
>> Jack stands underneath at the ends, and push against the tractor
>> bucket?  Or a tree?  Or the beam over the shed door?
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Re: [MBZ] window regulator

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Thanks.  I’ve done my share of window regulators over the years, but it’s 
probably been a good 10-15 years since I’ve done one in a W124.  I saw the 
Dorman on Amazon. $38 or something like that.

I had a pretty good idea where the cruise amp was - I won’t bother with a 
resolder until I can get a full set of new electrolytic caps for it, as they 
are often part of the problem.

-D


> On May 13, 2017, at 1:45 PM, Danny Goldberg via Mercedes 
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> 
> DanIts not hard to do the window regulator. DormanProducts.com mades an after 
> market
> at reasonable cost. 18003363575Just remember to move the motor before 
> installing (dont ask why i say that)U may need contact cement to put the 
> plastic barrier back.The cruse amp is under the dash near stearing collum if 
> u can often resoldering the board can bring it back to life.Dannygoldberg 
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Fans are toast.  Both have internal electrical issues, shorted windings I 
suspect based on the bench tests I did on them both.

So I’ll be running aux fanless for now.

In the meantime, anyone know where the relay would be for the fans?  I want to 
go ahead and check the circuit out so when I get replacements I can drop them 
in and know they’ll be ready to run.

Dan

 
> On May 13, 2017, at 1:22 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Ramps.
> 
> Tearing down the aux fans right now.  Just got them out of the car (oy!) and 
> letting them soak with some Kroil for a few minutes.
> 
> Both were pretty much non-functional, as they could barely be turned by hand. 
>  I have had some success recovering these in the past, so I’m going to give 
> it a shot with these.
> 
> I have never seen a condenser so crudded up before in my life.  There must 
> have been five pounds of crap, like dead bugs, leaves, etc., etc. in the 
> thing.  There’s a pile of crap under the front of the car where stuff fell 
> out while I was taking things apart.
> 
> Fun.  Time to see if I can recover these fans.
> 
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Unfubaring the kids car

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Make the kid jump on it until it's straight . . . .

On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 1:16 PM, fmiser via Mercedes 
wrote:

> > Kaleb wrote:
>
> > So he ran over something which pushed the lower radiator support
> > back and up a little,
>
> > ... but now I need to push it straight down but there is nothing
> > on the top side really good to press with.
>
> Jack stands underneath at the ends, and push against the tractor
> bucket?  Or a tree?  Or the beam over the shed door?
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Re: [MBZ] Unfubaring the kids car

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> Kaleb wrote:

> So he ran over something which pushed the lower radiator support
> back and up a little, 

> ... but now I need to push it straight down but there is nothing
> on the top side really good to press with.

Jack stands underneath at the ends, and push against the tractor
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Re: [MBZ] Chicago moves up

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

My experience with PSA has been mail order, with ammo sent to the house and 
firearms sent to a local (NC) Federally licensed (FFL) dealer.  Back when 
everything was hard to get, PSA had good prices and stock on S Shields when I 
couldn't find one locally.  Delivery was fast.  PSA seems to advertise good 
deals all the time but I pretty-much have all I need, already.  I haven't been 
in their brick-and-mortar store.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chicago moves up
> 
> Tell me more, I've never set foot in they place yet.
> --
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> '95 E300
> 
> On May 12, 2017 3:25:20 PM EDT, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> >PSA is hard to beat.
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Unfubaring the kids car

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Lift not up and going yet. I'm getting it done with the porta power, at least 
it will be close enough 

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> On May 13, 2017, at 12:37 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Drive a few concrete anchors into floor below your lift, secure radiator 
> support to floor, use the lift to raise the car.
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 
>> On May 13, 2017 1:31:18 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> So he ran over something which pushed the lower radiator support back
>> and up a little, which put a slight crack in the side tank. I guess I
>> am going to try to patch it although I hate doing that and I end up
>> having to redo it later. Trying to save the kid money. Right now am
>> working on putting the radiator support back in shape using my porta
>> power. Got it pushed forward into place by pushing against the frame
>> but now I need to push it straight down but there is nothing on the top
>> side really good to press with. I have reinstalled the top support and
>> will try pressing against that but I am not sure if it will be sturdy
>> enough.
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[MBZ] window regulator

[Danny Goldberg via Mercedes]

DanIts not hard to do the window regulator. DormanProducts.com mades an after 
market
at reasonable cost. 18003363575Just remember to move the motor before 
installing (dont ask why i say that)U may need contact cement to put the 
plastic barrier back.The cruse amp is under the dash near stearing collum if u 
can often resoldering the board can bring it back to life.Dannygoldberg 
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Re: [MBZ] Unfubaring the kids car

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Drive a few concrete anchors into floor below your lift, secure radiator 
support to floor, use the lift to raise the car.
-- 
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'95 E300

On May 13, 2017 1:31:18 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>So he ran over something which pushed the lower radiator support back
>and up a little, which put a slight crack in the side tank. I guess I
>am going to try to patch it although I hate doing that and I end up
>having to redo it later. Trying to save the kid money. Right now am
>working on putting the radiator support back in shape using my porta
>power. Got it pushed forward into place by pushing against the frame
>but now I need to push it straight down but there is nothing on the top
>side really good to press with. I have reinstalled the top support and
>will try pressing against that but I am not sure if it will be sturdy
>enough.
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Re: [MBZ] Unfubaring the kids car

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

BFH.

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Re: [MBZ] White on green

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Not as much as the asking price 

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> On May 13, 2017, at 11:16 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Body is Swiss cheese.  What's the interior worth?
> 
>> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 10:52 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 1969 *Mercedes-Benz* *280S* *Sedan* White
>> http://kansascity.craigslist.org/ctd/6128487283.html
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] It's Green

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Manual, or automatic?

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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Dan, I've got a set if used fans if you can't.
-- 
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'95 E300

On May 13, 2017 1:22:11 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:
>Ramps.
>
>Tearing down the aux fans right now.  Just got them out of the car
>(oy!) and letting them soak with some Kroil for a few minutes.
>
>Both were pretty much non-functional, as they could barely be turned by
>hand.  I have had some success recovering these in the past, so I’m
>going to give it a shot with these.
>
>I have never seen a condenser so crudded up before in my life.  There
>must have been five pounds of crap, like dead bugs, leaves, etc., etc.
>in the thing.  There’s a pile of crap under the front of the car where
>stuff fell out while I was taking things apart.
>
>Fun.  Time to see if I can recover these fans.
>
>-D
>
>
>
>
>
>> On May 13, 2017, at 12:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> Dan writes "...Get the car in the air"  Do you have a lift at home?
>> 
>> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Dan says:
>>> 
 It is a testament to these cars that they survive stuff like this.
>>> 
>>> So do Toyota's.
>>> But as Dimitri says
>>> 
>>> "Friends don't let friends drive Toyota's."
>>> 
>>> Except Gerry.
>>> We can make an exception for Gerry.
>>> He has achieved maturity milestones
>>> that I will be grateful to achieve one day.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Cruise control

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Classic bad solder joints symptom.  DIY for free, or exchange for rebuilt.

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Re: [MBZ] Cruise control

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I have bought theirs before and they worked fine. I will either try to resolder 
or I probably have one laying around 

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> On May 13, 2017, at 11:21 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Get a rebuilt CC amp from Programa in FL.  They have worked in my 300 TDs for 
> years.  Used to cost $149/exchange.
> 
>> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 11:52 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> You have to pull the drivers side under dash panel and you will see it right 
>> there
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On May 13, 2017, at 10:49 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> > Probably.  Could be a bad feedback pot in the actuator, but it’s more 
>> > likely the amp.  The E300D has a dead cruise control.  I have to figure 
>> > out where the amp is so I can yank it out and re-cap it.
>> >
>> > -D
>> >
>> >
>> >> On May 13, 2017, at 11:45 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>> >>  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Sdl cruise works and holds for a while, then will drop out. Seems like it 
>> >> will work fine when you first go out like yesterday drove about 50 miles 
>> >> to town and it worked fine. When we left to come back it did not. Will 
>> >> speed up if you push the handle up but won't hold. Is this a symptom of 
>> >> the cruise amp?
>> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Ramps.

Tearing down the aux fans right now.  Just got them out of the car (oy!) and 
letting them soak with some Kroil for a few minutes.

Both were pretty much non-functional, as they could barely be turned by hand.  
I have had some success recovering these in the past, so I’m going to give it a 
shot with these.

I have never seen a condenser so crudded up before in my life.  There must have 
been five pounds of crap, like dead bugs, leaves, etc., etc. in the thing.  
There’s a pile of crap under the front of the car where stuff fell out while I 
was taking things apart.

Fun.  Time to see if I can recover these fans.

-D





> On May 13, 2017, at 12:23 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dan writes "...Get the car in the air"  Do you have a lift at home?
> 
> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Dan says:
>> 
>>> It is a testament to these cars that they survive stuff like this.
>> 
>> So do Toyota's.
>> But as Dimitri says
>> 
>> "Friends don't let friends drive Toyota's."
>> 
>> Except Gerry.
>> We can make an exception for Gerry.
>> He has achieved maturity milestones
>> that I will be grateful to achieve one day.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Cruise control

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There is a guy on Benzworld that does them with a guarantee for $80.  I’ve used 
him before, he did the one in the 350SDL for me.  I’ll get his email and post 
it here in a bit.

-D


> On May 13, 2017, at 12:21 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Get a rebuilt CC amp from Programa in FL.  They have worked in my 300 TDs
> for years.  Used to cost $149/exchange.
> 
> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 11:52 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> You have to pull the drivers side under dash panel and you will see it
>> right there
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 13, 2017, at 10:49 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Probably.  Could be a bad feedback pot in the actuator, but it’s more
>> likely the amp.  The E300D has a dead cruise control.  I have to figure out
>> where the amp is so I can yank it out and re-cap it.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On May 13, 2017, at 11:45 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 Sdl cruise works and holds for a while, then will drop out. Seems like
>> it will work fine when you first go out like yesterday drove about 50 miles
>> to town and it worked fine. When we left to come back it did not. Will
>> speed up if you push the handle up but won't hold. Is this a symptom of the
>> cruise amp?
 
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

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Dan writes "...Get the car in the air"  Do you have a lift at home?

On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
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> Dan says:
>
> >It is a testament to these cars that they survive stuff like this.
>
> So do Toyota's.
> But as Dimitri says
>
> "Friends don't let friends drive Toyota's."
>
> Except Gerry.
> We can make an exception for Gerry.
> He has achieved maturity milestones
> that I will be grateful to achieve one day.
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Re: [MBZ] Cruise control

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Get a rebuilt CC amp from Programa in FL.  They have worked in my 300 TDs
for years.  Used to cost $149/exchange.

On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 11:52 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> You have to pull the drivers side under dash panel and you will see it
> right there
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 13, 2017, at 10:49 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Probably.  Could be a bad feedback pot in the actuator, but it’s more
> likely the amp.  The E300D has a dead cruise control.  I have to figure out
> where the amp is so I can yank it out and re-cap it.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> >> On May 13, 2017, at 11:45 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Sdl cruise works and holds for a while, then will drop out. Seems like
> it will work fine when you first go out like yesterday drove about 50 miles
> to town and it worked fine. When we left to come back it did not. Will
> speed up if you push the handle up but won't hold. Is this a symptom of the
> cruise amp?
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] White on green

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Body is Swiss cheese.  What's the interior worth?

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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

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Dan says:

>It is a testament to these cars that they survive stuff like this.

So do Toyota's. 
But as Dimitri says

"Friends don't let friends drive Toyota's."

Except Gerry. 
We can make an exception for Gerry.
He has achieved maturity milestones
that I will be grateful to achieve one day.   

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Re: [MBZ] Cruise control

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

You have to pull the drivers side under dash panel and you will see it right 
there 

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> On May 13, 2017, at 10:49 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Probably.  Could be a bad feedback pot in the actuator, but it’s more likely 
> the amp.  The E300D has a dead cruise control.  I have to figure out where 
> the amp is so I can yank it out and re-cap it.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On May 13, 2017, at 11:45 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Sdl cruise works and holds for a while, then will drop out. Seems like it 
>> will work fine when you first go out like yesterday drove about 50 miles to 
>> town and it worked fine. When we left to come back it did not. Will speed up 
>> if you push the handle up but won't hold. Is this a symptom of the cruise 
>> amp? 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

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Not hard. It's been a while but I am thing the fronts have real regulators and 
not the flimsy cable ones. 

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> On May 13, 2017, at 10:46 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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> 
> How tough is it to replace window regulators in these cars? The driver’s 
> widow is just about to wear the teeth off the segmented gear thing.  When it 
> gets to the top of the window travel if you keep the switch down you can hear 
> it “pop”.
> 
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Cruise control

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Probably.  Could be a bad feedback pot in the actuator, but it’s more likely 
the amp.  The E300D has a dead cruise control.  I have to figure out where the 
amp is so I can yank it out and re-cap it.

-D


> On May 13, 2017, at 11:45 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Sdl cruise works and holds for a while, then will drop out. Seems like it 
> will work fine when you first go out like yesterday drove about 50 miles to 
> town and it worked fine. When we left to come back it did not. Will speed up 
> if you push the handle up but won't hold. Is this a symptom of the cruise 
> amp? 
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

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How tough is it to replace window regulators in these cars? The driver’s widow 
is just about to wear the teeth off the segmented gear thing.  When it gets to 
the top of the window travel if you keep the switch down you can hear it “pop”.

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[MBZ] Cruise control

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Sdl cruise works and holds for a while, then will drop out. Seems like it will 
work fine when you first go out like yesterday drove about 50 miles to town and 
it worked fine. When we left to come back it did not. Will speed up if you push 
the handle up but won't hold. Is this a symptom of the cruise amp? 

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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

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I just try to understand the motivation.  Something like the EGR gains nothing, 
not to mention you’re bypassing filtered air into the engine.  Just like the 
lack of a cabin air filter.

Grrr.

It is a testament to these cars that they survive stuff like this.

-D


> On May 13, 2017, at 11:38 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> 
> It's to annoying to get a car in that has had all sorts of short cuts done 
> that would have been simple to fix the right way. I have run into that with 
> the latest e300 I picked up. 
> 
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>> On May 13, 2017, at 10:21 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I noticed that yesterday.  However, what I can see appears to be stock and 
>> unaltered, although as I go through the car in more detail I definitely am 
>> finding things that would indicated someone in the past liked to second 
>> guess the engineers and cut corners.
>> 
>> For instance:
>> 
>> Figured I would replace the cabin air filters, since this car has them - or 
>> does it?
>> 
>> I pulled all of the plenum pieces out to get at the filters, and guess what? 
>>  They’re not there.  As in someone removed them and never put replacements 
>> in.  Yup, a gaping hole from the plenum straight into the 
>> airbox/evaporator/heater core.  Lovely.
>> 
>> So with the plenum pulled apart and all of the seals removed, I vacuumed the 
>> detritus from AZ out, mostly pine needles as one would expect and then 
>> installed fresh cabin air filters.
>> 
>> While I was in the neighborhood I pulled the cover off of the monowiper and 
>> greased everything in sight with Mobil 1 grease.  That area looked pretty 
>> good.
>> 
>> In anticipation of future troubleshooting of the AC system, specifically the 
>> auxiliary fans, I reconnected the disconnected wires from the high 
>> temperature refrigerant switch on the receiver/dryer.  I’ll be looking into 
>> aux fan operation later today, I suspect.
>> 
>> I also noticed that the tube from the exhaust manifold going to the air 
>> intake valve (EGR I expect) has been pinched off.  That is, someone appears 
>> to have cut the tube off just above the clamp at the manifold and then 
>> smashed the stub of the tube flat to seal it.  The connection at the intake 
>> tube appears to have been left open to outside air.  There is no cap or 
>> plug. 
>> 
>> At this point I’m going to do some interior cleaning and get that sorted 
>> before I get under the car and poke around.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 13, 2017, at 10:16 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> There are a ton of vacuum lines under the manifold that you can't really 
>>> see unless the manifold is off, or maybe from under the car.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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  wrote:
 
 Clay bar’ed and waxed the car this morning.  No need for polishing as the 
 finish is good and I don’t want to take any of the clear coat off.
 
 The car has definitely been repainted at some point in its past.  Not a 
 bad thing, just something I noticed as I worked on the exterior.
 
 Now that I have the exterior pretty much in order, I’ll move to the 
 interior and get the carpets clean and clean the interior thoroughly.  For 
 the most part it’s not bad, the headliner is a little dirty, but otherwise 
 this should be a fairly easy job.  Looking forward to seeing what under 
 the rear seat cushion yields.  The PO did leave about $5 of change in the 
 ash tray.  Nice!
 
 After the interior is done I’ll get the car in the air and do some work 
 underneath.  I’ll probably flush the brakes, as the fluid is almost black. 
  I need to check the transmission vacuum modulator, as I suspect that’s 
 the source of the hard shift issue since all of the vacuum lines topside 
 look OK and to be in the proper positions.
 
 In my down time I’ll start getting a parts list together to sort out the 
 breather tubing on the intake.  I have GOT to sort that out, as it’s 
 making me crazy looking at it.  Antenna doesn’t work, either, so I need to 
 pop the aftermarket head unit and see if it’s connected properly before I 
 tear into the antenna.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

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Neither from what I can see.  I’ll be sealing the opening in the intake before 
it gets started again. Sigh.

Why are people such idiots?

-D

 
> On May 13, 2017, at 11:36 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Ouch, air filter bypassed when (if) that EGR valve opened.  Hopefully a 
> block-off plate is installed, or at least the vacuum tube sealed to prevent 
> it from opening.
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 
> On May 13, 2017 11:21:34 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>> I also noticed that the tube from the exhaust manifold going to the air
>> intake valve (EGR I expect) has been pinched off.  That is, someone
>> appears to have cut the tube off just above the clamp at the manifold
>> and then smashed the stub of the tube flat to seal it.  The connection
>> at the intake tube appears to have been left open to outside air. 
>> There is no cap or plug. 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] It's Green

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Might not be too bad. Pick it up for 2k and flip it on BAT for 5k

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> On May 13, 2017, at 10:36 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 1972 4 cylinder diesel . One family owned.
> 
> $2500 or best. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

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It's to annoying to get a car in that has had all sorts of short cuts done that 
would have been simple to fix the right way. I have run into that with the 
latest e300 I picked up. 

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> On May 13, 2017, at 10:21 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I noticed that yesterday.  However, what I can see appears to be stock and 
> unaltered, although as I go through the car in more detail I definitely am 
> finding things that would indicated someone in the past liked to second guess 
> the engineers and cut corners.
> 
> For instance:
> 
> Figured I would replace the cabin air filters, since this car has them - or 
> does it?
> 
> I pulled all of the plenum pieces out to get at the filters, and guess what?  
> They’re not there.  As in someone removed them and never put replacements in. 
>  Yup, a gaping hole from the plenum straight into the 
> airbox/evaporator/heater core.  Lovely.
> 
> So with the plenum pulled apart and all of the seals removed, I vacuumed the 
> detritus from AZ out, mostly pine needles as one would expect and then 
> installed fresh cabin air filters.
> 
> While I was in the neighborhood I pulled the cover off of the monowiper and 
> greased everything in sight with Mobil 1 grease.  That area looked pretty 
> good.
> 
> In anticipation of future troubleshooting of the AC system, specifically the 
> auxiliary fans, I reconnected the disconnected wires from the high 
> temperature refrigerant switch on the receiver/dryer.  I’ll be looking into 
> aux fan operation later today, I suspect.
> 
> I also noticed that the tube from the exhaust manifold going to the air 
> intake valve (EGR I expect) has been pinched off.  That is, someone appears 
> to have cut the tube off just above the clamp at the manifold and then 
> smashed the stub of the tube flat to seal it.  The connection at the intake 
> tube appears to have been left open to outside air.  There is no cap or plug. 
> 
> 
> At this point I’m going to do some interior cleaning and get that sorted 
> before I get under the car and poke around.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 13, 2017, at 10:16 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> There are a ton of vacuum lines under the manifold that you can't really see 
>> unless the manifold is off, or maybe from under the car.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 13, 2017, at 7:15 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Clay bar’ed and waxed the car this morning.  No need for polishing as the 
>>> finish is good and I don’t want to take any of the clear coat off.
>>> 
>>> The car has definitely been repainted at some point in its past.  Not a bad 
>>> thing, just something I noticed as I worked on the exterior.
>>> 
>>> Now that I have the exterior pretty much in order, I’ll move to the 
>>> interior and get the carpets clean and clean the interior thoroughly.  For 
>>> the most part it’s not bad, the headliner is a little dirty, but otherwise 
>>> this should be a fairly easy job.  Looking forward to seeing what under the 
>>> rear seat cushion yields.  The PO did leave about $5 of change in the ash 
>>> tray.  Nice!
>>> 
>>> After the interior is done I’ll get the car in the air and do some work 
>>> underneath.  I’ll probably flush the brakes, as the fluid is almost black.  
>>> I need to check the transmission vacuum modulator, as I suspect that’s the 
>>> source of the hard shift issue since all of the vacuum lines topside look 
>>> OK and to be in the proper positions.
>>> 
>>> In my down time I’ll start getting a parts list together to sort out the 
>>> breather tubing on the intake.  I have GOT to sort that out, as it’s making 
>>> me crazy looking at it.  Antenna doesn’t work, either, so I need to pop the 
>>> aftermarket head unit and see if it’s connected properly before I tear into 
>>> the antenna.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Ouch, air filter bypassed when (if) that EGR valve opened.  Hopefully a 
block-off plate is installed, or at least the vacuum tube sealed to prevent it 
from opening.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On May 13, 2017 11:21:34 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>I also noticed that the tube from the exhaust manifold going to the air
>intake valve (EGR I expect) has been pinched off.  That is, someone
>appears to have cut the tube off just above the clamp at the manifold
>and then smashed the stub of the tube flat to seal it.  The connection
>at the intake tube appears to have been left open to outside air. 
>There is no cap or plug. 
>

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Re: [MBZ] It's Green

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

1972 4 cylinder diesel . One family owned.

$2500 or best. 

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Re: [MBZ] It's Green

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Diesel.

Rick
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Diesel or gas?

-D


> On May 13, 2017, at 11:23 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>
> Buddy of mine is at an auto auction in Auburn, IN. $2500 or best.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] It's Green

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Diesel or gas?

-D


> On May 13, 2017, at 11:23 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Buddy of mine is at an auto auction in Auburn, IN. $2500 or best.
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I noticed that yesterday.  However, what I can see appears to be stock and 
unaltered, although as I go through the car in more detail I definitely am 
finding things that would indicated someone in the past liked to second guess 
the engineers and cut corners.

For instance:

Figured I would replace the cabin air filters, since this car has them - or 
does it?

I pulled all of the plenum pieces out to get at the filters, and guess what?  
They’re not there.  As in someone removed them and never put replacements in.  
Yup, a gaping hole from the plenum straight into the airbox/evaporator/heater 
core.  Lovely.

So with the plenum pulled apart and all of the seals removed, I vacuumed the 
detritus from AZ out, mostly pine needles as one would expect and then 
installed fresh cabin air filters.

While I was in the neighborhood I pulled the cover off of the monowiper and 
greased everything in sight with Mobil 1 grease.  That area looked pretty good.

In anticipation of future troubleshooting of the AC system, specifically the 
auxiliary fans, I reconnected the disconnected wires from the high temperature 
refrigerant switch on the receiver/dryer.  I’ll be looking into aux fan 
operation later today, I suspect.

I also noticed that the tube from the exhaust manifold going to the air intake 
valve (EGR I expect) has been pinched off.  That is, someone appears to have 
cut the tube off just above the clamp at the manifold and then smashed the stub 
of the tube flat to seal it.  The connection at the intake tube appears to have 
been left open to outside air.  There is no cap or plug. 

At this point I’m going to do some interior cleaning and get that sorted before 
I get under the car and poke around.

-D



> On May 13, 2017, at 10:16 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> There are a ton of vacuum lines under the manifold that you can't really see 
> unless the manifold is off, or maybe from under the car.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 13, 2017, at 7:15 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Clay bar’ed and waxed the car this morning.  No need for polishing as the 
>> finish is good and I don’t want to take any of the clear coat off.
>> 
>> The car has definitely been repainted at some point in its past.  Not a bad 
>> thing, just something I noticed as I worked on the exterior.
>> 
>> Now that I have the exterior pretty much in order, I’ll move to the interior 
>> and get the carpets clean and clean the interior thoroughly.  For the most 
>> part it’s not bad, the headliner is a little dirty, but otherwise this 
>> should be a fairly easy job.  Looking forward to seeing what under the rear 
>> seat cushion yields.  The PO did leave about $5 of change in the ash tray.  
>> Nice!
>> 
>> After the interior is done I’ll get the car in the air and do some work 
>> underneath.  I’ll probably flush the brakes, as the fluid is almost black.  
>> I need to check the transmission vacuum modulator, as I suspect that’s the 
>> source of the hard shift issue since all of the vacuum lines topside look OK 
>> and to be in the proper positions.
>> 
>> In my down time I’ll start getting a parts list together to sort out the 
>> breather tubing on the intake.  I have GOT to sort that out, as it’s making 
>> me crazy looking at it.  Antenna doesn’t work, either, so I need to pop the 
>> aftermarket head unit and see if it’s connected properly before I tear into 
>> the antenna.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
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[MBZ] White on green

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

1969 *Mercedes-Benz* *280S* *Sedan* White
http://kansascity.craigslist.org/ctd/6128487283.html

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Re: [MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

There are a ton of vacuum lines under the manifold that you can't really see 
unless the manifold is off, or maybe from under the car.

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> On May 13, 2017, at 7:15 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Clay bar’ed and waxed the car this morning.  No need for polishing as the 
> finish is good and I don’t want to take any of the clear coat off.
> 
> The car has definitely been repainted at some point in its past.  Not a bad 
> thing, just something I noticed as I worked on the exterior.
> 
> Now that I have the exterior pretty much in order, I’ll move to the interior 
> and get the carpets clean and clean the interior thoroughly.  For the most 
> part it’s not bad, the headliner is a little dirty, but otherwise this should 
> be a fairly easy job.  Looking forward to seeing what under the rear seat 
> cushion yields.  The PO did leave about $5 of change in the ash tray.  Nice!
> 
> After the interior is done I’ll get the car in the air and do some work 
> underneath.  I’ll probably flush the brakes, as the fluid is almost black.  I 
> need to check the transmission vacuum modulator, as I suspect that’s the 
> source of the hard shift issue since all of the vacuum lines topside look OK 
> and to be in the proper positions.
> 
> In my down time I’ll start getting a parts list together to sort out the 
> breather tubing on the intake.  I have GOT to sort that out, as it’s making 
> me crazy looking at it.  Antenna doesn’t work, either, so I need to pop the 
> aftermarket head unit and see if it’s connected properly before I tear into 
> the antenna.
> 
> -D
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[MBZ] Martha Report - Day 1

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Clay bar’ed and waxed the car this morning.  No need for polishing as the 
finish is good and I don’t want to take any of the clear coat off.

The car has definitely been repainted at some point in its past.  Not a bad 
thing, just something I noticed as I worked on the exterior.

Now that I have the exterior pretty much in order, I’ll move to the interior 
and get the carpets clean and clean the interior thoroughly.  For the most part 
it’s not bad, the headliner is a little dirty, but otherwise this should be a 
fairly easy job.  Looking forward to seeing what under the rear seat cushion 
yields.  The PO did leave about $5 of change in the ash tray.  Nice!

After the interior is done I’ll get the car in the air and do some work 
underneath.  I’ll probably flush the brakes, as the fluid is almost black.  I 
need to check the transmission vacuum modulator, as I suspect that’s the source 
of the hard shift issue since all of the vacuum lines topside look OK and to be 
in the proper positions.

In my down time I’ll start getting a parts list together to sort out the 
breather tubing on the intake.  I have GOT to sort that out, as it’s making me 
crazy looking at it.  Antenna doesn’t work, either, so I need to pop the 
aftermarket head unit and see if it’s connected properly before I tear into the 
antenna.

-D


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Re: [MBZ] AC Question

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That would make sense, since there’s no airflow to speak of through the 
condenser while the car isn’t moving.  I’ll check the fans and add the resistor 
mod that lowers their turn on threshold as well.  I’m pretty sure I have some 
of the correct value in the parts box…

Dan


> On May 12, 2017, at 10:03 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Trust me the 124 in native 134 will freeze you out if it's working like it 
> should. Be sure your aux fans on running on low when the ac is on. If not 
> it's probably the resistor which is common on those. 
> 
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>> On May 12, 2017, at 8:22 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> The clear sight glass was _only_ an R12 thing.  If your system is fully
>> charged and not deficient in airflow (dirt, leaves, bad fans), your only
>> option is to use a refrigerant that is _more_ efficient than R134a.  Such
>> as one of the hydrocarbon blends.
>> 
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