Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: OT - .22 Rifles
CCI MiniMag hollow points, $280/5000 in the plastic 100 packs, free shipping. https://palmettostatearmory.com/cci-22-lr-36-grain-copper-plated-hollow-point-ammunition-5000-rounds-case-0011.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: OT - .22 Rifles
Soon, Mexico will annex California. Then, NOTHING will cause cancer. Apparently in Mexico every item that has a cancer warning label in California is safe and good for you in Mexico, just 100 yards across the border. Its' a miracle what the Mexicans have done. A terrorist group announced it was going to kill every US Citizen in California... Police warned the death toll could be as high as 15. On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 8:14 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > When everything carries the warning label, the label loses what little > value it might have had. > I wonder what would happen if somebody tried to float a ballot proposal to > repeal prop 65 labeling requirements? > > > > On October 5, 2018 at 8:18 AM Larry Turner via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > Ha! I thought everything had that label LOL > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: OT - .22 Rifles
When everything carries the warning label, the label loses what little value it might have had. I wonder what would happen if somebody tried to float a ballot proposal to repeal prop 65 labeling requirements? > On October 5, 2018 at 8:18 AM Larry Turner via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Ha! I thought everything had that label LOL ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: OT - .22 Rifles
Ha! I thought everything had that label LOL LarryT On 10/02/2018 5:32 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: No ban, but they will have that label that says it can cause cancer in California. Rick Original Message From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: October 2, 2018 2:44 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; astrasfo...@gmail.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: curtlud...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: OT - .22 Rifles I'm just mentioning that environmental regulations have gotten out of control. I wonder how long until CA bans any non-raw vegan foods. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: Got my buck for the season
Curt wrote: > Thats it, Greg wins the internet for today... "...internet for today,,," An article today mentioned a new competition for internet by Tim Berners Lee the original html developer(?) - inrupt.com Not knowing *scat* about internet whatever, but knowing that many of you okiebenz people earn a living doing internet... Has anyone read about inrupt? It is all *scat* to me. tin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: Got my buck for the season
Thats it, Greg wins the internet for today... -Curt On Thursday, October 4, 2018, 6:01:31 PM EDT, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote: Seriously? How could anyone think that could be bear poop. Everyone knows bears poop in the woods, not on doormats. :-) Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2018 1:34 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Andrew Strasfogel Subject: Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: Got my buck for the season As you may recall I initially thought it was bear scat. Must have been a 300 pounder. On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 4:06 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Free fertilizer! > > RB > > On 04/10/2018 3:01 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > > We have deer who literally p**p on our front welcome mat after browsing > the > > ornamentals. This is very rude - I don't mess with their landscaping. > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: Got my buck for the season
Seriously? How could anyone think that could be bear poop. Everyone knows bears poop in the woods, not on doormats. :-) Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2018 1:34 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Andrew Strasfogel Subject: Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: Got my buck for the season As you may recall I initially thought it was bear scat. Must have been a 300 pounder. On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 4:06 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Free fertilizer! > > RB > > On 04/10/2018 3:01 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > > We have deer who literally p**p on our front welcome mat after browsing > the > > ornamentals. This is very rude - I don't mess with their landscaping. > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: ***SPAM*** Re: Got my buck for the season
Reminds me of a Pat McManus (outdoor sports humorist) story about hunting with his cousin Buck because Buck, though an idiot, was old enough to drive and Pat wasn't. Buck would see a 3 week old hoofprint and say 'look Pat, deer sign'. Pat would spot a steaming pile of poo and Buck would derisively say 'you can't eat sign'. So one day, Pat dumps a box of milk duds on the ground. "hey Buck, deer sign". Buck gives his customary dismissal, so Pat picks a couple nuggets off the ground, tosses them up, and catches them in his mouth. And of course when Buck figured out what Pat did, he gave him a good thumping on the head for it. Mitch. > On October 4, 2018 at 5:36 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > Fresh deer leavings: http://www.bear-tracker.com/deersc2.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: ***SPAM*** Re: Got my buck for the season
Apparently... Bear doings: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0384/0233/files/6_ccdb2923-b257-43da-826a-4579d5215089.jpg?13546268658863548828 Fresh deer leavings: http://www.bear-tracker.com/deersc2.jpg -Curt On Thursday, October 4, 2018, 5:30:48 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: So, are you suggesting that Andrew and I don't know Shi*? RB On 04/10/2018 4:18 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > Deer and bear scat have nothing similar about them... > -Curt > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: ***SPAM*** Re: Got my buck for the season
So, are you suggesting that Andrew and I don't know Shi*? RB On 04/10/2018 4:18 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Deer and bear scat have nothing similar about them... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: Got my buck for the season
Deer and bear scat have nothing similar about them... -Curt On Thursday, October 4, 2018, 4:35:14 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: As you may recall I initially thought it was bear scat. Must have been a 300 pounder. On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 4:06 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Free fertilizer! > > RB > > On 04/10/2018 3:01 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > > We have deer who literally p**p on our front welcome mat after browsing > the > > ornamentals. This is very rude - I don't mess with their landscaping. > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: Got my buck for the season
As you may recall I initially thought it was bear scat. Must have been a 300 pounder. On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 4:06 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Free fertilizer! > > RB > > On 04/10/2018 3:01 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > > We have deer who literally p**p on our front welcome mat after browsing > the > > ornamentals. This is very rude - I don't mess with their landscaping. > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: Got my buck for the season
Free fertilizer! RB On 04/10/2018 3:01 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: We have deer who literally p**p on our front welcome mat after browsing the ornamentals. This is very rude - I don't mess with their landscaping. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: Got my buck for the season
Maybe a deer who appreciates fine MB auto-mobiles. Waited for a Hyundai and jumped on it instead? RB On 04/10/2018 1:59 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: No damage, a very close miss. Looks like the buck was standing by or walking toward the road, as I approached he was spooked by his own shadow (from my head lights) and started to jump into the road but then thought better of that decision and went back off the road. - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** OT: Intersectional Critical Constructivism
O'Reilly said that a degree is worthless if the major contains the words "comparative", "studies", or "gender". > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of > Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 5:06 PM > To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' > Cc: Greg Fiorentino > Subject: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** OT: Intersectional Critical Constructivism > > For those interested is Science and Education: > > > > https://areomagazine.com/2018/10/02/academic-grievance-studies-and-the- > corruption-of-scholarship/ > > > > << For us to know anything about injustice in society and be able to show it > to > those who are unaware or in denial of it, scholarship into it must be > rigorous.>> > > > > gREG > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: Again - what color?
See Dimitri's post. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Oct 3, 2018 9:23 PM, "fmiser via Mercedes" wrote: > > Mountain wrote: > > > Anyone? Don't know if this looks grey or blue. > > Seems quite nice for '82. > > It looks pale blue/grey to me. Very similar to one I have. I > kinda like the color. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: Again - what color?
> Mountain wrote: > Anyone? Don't know if this looks grey or blue. > Seems quite nice for '82. It looks pale blue/grey to me. Very similar to one I have. I kinda like the color. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** OT: Intersectional Critical Constructivism
Thank you. I now have a much greater understanding of why every Communist takeover has executed the academics or put them in hard labor camps for "social retraining". while working and starving them to death. [sarcasm intended, sort of] On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 3:35 PM G Mann wrote: > Thank yo > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 2:07 PM Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> For those interested is Science and Education: >> >> >> >> >> https://areomagazine.com/2018/10/02/academic-grievance-studies-and-the-corruption-of-scholarship/ >> >> >> >> << For us to know anything about injustice in society and be able to show >> it to those who are unaware or in denial of it, scholarship into it must be >> rigorous.>> >> >> >> >> gREG >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** OT: Intersectional Critical Constructivism
Thank yo On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 2:07 PM Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > For those interested is Science and Education: > > > > > https://areomagazine.com/2018/10/02/academic-grievance-studies-and-the-corruption-of-scholarship/ > > > > << For us to know anything about injustice in society and be able to show > it to those who are unaware or in denial of it, scholarship into it must be > rigorous.>> > > > > gREG > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] ***SPAM*** OT: Intersectional Critical Constructivism
For those interested is Science and Education: https://areomagazine.com/2018/10/02/academic-grievance-studies-and-the-corruption-of-scholarship/ << For us to know anything about injustice in society and be able to show it to those who are unaware or in denial of it, scholarship into it must be rigorous.>> gREG ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] spam what color
Dan wrote: > Resend the message and immediately email me directly that you got rejected > and I’ll approve it. There - it was sent again after scale the images. tin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] spam what color
Since it took you a couple of days to respond I’m sure it went in the bit bucket. Resend the message and immediately email me directly that you got rejected and I’ll approve it. -D > On Oct 3, 2018, at 4:00 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes > wrote: > > Dan wrote: >> Did you get a notification saying the message was being held for approval? I >> looked in the queue and didn’t see anything. > > here is what was sent: > == > Your mail to 'Mercedes' with the subject > >What color? > > Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. > > The reason it is being held: > >Message body is too big: 14649381 bytes with a limit of 1050 KB > > Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive > notification of the moderator's decision. > == > tin > >> >> I believe Kaleb has the message size limit set to 40k. >> >> -D >> >>> On Oct 1, 2018, at 2:14 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> i guess pictures attached to email to okiebenz is spam, i.e. awaiting >>> mod approval. >>> the color is very light blue in the pictures or grey. what color >>> might that be? or, perhaps it is a respray? >>> tin >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] spam what color
Dan wrote: > Did you get a notification saying the message was being held for approval? I > looked in the queue and didn’t see anything. here is what was sent: == Your mail to 'Mercedes' with the subject What color? Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is being held: Message body is too big: 14649381 bytes with a limit of 1050 KB Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision. == tin > > I believe Kaleb has the message size limit set to 40k. > > -D > > > On Oct 1, 2018, at 2:14 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > > i guess pictures attached to email to okiebenz is spam, i.e. awaiting > > mod approval. > > the color is very light blue in the pictures or grey. what color > > might that be? or, perhaps it is a respray? > > tin > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** cocaine is alive and well in Miami and I have snorted kilos
10,000 plus for a box of useful parts "maybe" does not a bargain make. In fact, if you factor in transport, sales fees [if any]. storage while you "find a use for the parts not damaged"... it becomes a damn expensive car, which will always be followed by a salvage title and a wreck report that says "totaled", if you choose to rebuild it. Replacement parts, repaint, etc etc... another $20 grand easy enough Uni-body, so major frame machine time to un-kink... No thank you. On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 9:49 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Am I missing something? Why do you folks find this odd or unreasonable? > That was an expensive car and is only a year or so old. > I doubt it is worth repairing but the parts have to be worth more than > the asking price if one needed them. > > RB > > On 03/10/2018 11:32 AM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 11:14:14 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > >> That thing might sell for five digits at CoPart, but it's not an easy > >> fix. Mitch. > > I clicked the button at the bottom and nominated it for "Best of > > Craigslist". > > > > > > Craig > > > > > >>> On October 3, 2018 at 11:08 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> > https://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/d/2017-mercedes-benz-slc-300/6712111338.html > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** STOP MAX AND ME!!!!
Or the relay for the fuel pump - an even easier fix. On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 10:20 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > It's about 2 hr drive away though, but you're probably right, easy fix > > --FT > > > On 10/3/18 11:10 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: > > Fuel pump is near the back axle behind a plastic splash guard. > > Have somebody turn the key while you listen down there. > > If no pump sound, buy it. > > Mine died a few years ago at 240+ thousand miles. > > Replaced it with a $40 used one from eBay. > > Mitch. > >> On October 3, 2018 at 11:00 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >> Kleb would be all over this > >> > >> > https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/good-car-no-longer-in-need/6713767773.html > >> > >> -- > >> --FT > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > -- > --FT > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Price is dropping into reasonable territory
THAT would be great deal- a rust free w210 diesel. I will give you 2550 delivered. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Oct 3, 2018 11:35 AM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" wrote: See if you can get it cheaper, I'd give you $2500 delivered -Curt On Wednesday, October 3, 2018, 11:03:53 AM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1997-diesel- mercedes-benz-e300/6708130757.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** cocaine is alive and well in Miami and I have snorted kilos
Am I missing something? Why do you folks find this odd or unreasonable? That was an expensive car and is only a year or so old. I doubt it is worth repairing but the parts have to be worth more than the asking price if one needed them. RB On 03/10/2018 11:32 AM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 11:14:14 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: That thing might sell for five digits at CoPart, but it's not an easy fix. Mitch. I clicked the button at the bottom and nominated it for "Best of Craigslist". Craig On October 3, 2018 at 11:08 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: https://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/d/2017-mercedes-benz-slc-300/6712111338.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** cocaine is alive and well in Miami and I have snorted kilos
On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 11:14:14 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: > That thing might sell for five digits at CoPart, but it's not an easy > fix. Mitch. I clicked the button at the bottom and nominated it for "Best of Craigslist". Craig > > On October 3, 2018 at 11:08 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > > https://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/d/2017-mercedes-benz-slc-300/6712111338.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Price is dropping into reasonable territory
See if you can get it cheaper, I'd give you $2500 delivered -Curt On Wednesday, October 3, 2018, 11:03:53 AM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1997-diesel-mercedes-benz-e300/6708130757.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** STOP MAX AND ME!!!!
It's about 2 hr drive away though, but you're probably right, easy fix --FT On 10/3/18 11:10 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Fuel pump is near the back axle behind a plastic splash guard. Have somebody turn the key while you listen down there. If no pump sound, buy it. Mine died a few years ago at 240+ thousand miles. Replaced it with a $40 used one from eBay. Mitch. On October 3, 2018 at 11:00 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: Kleb would be all over this https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/good-car-no-longer-in-need/6713767773.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That thing might sell for five digits at CoPart, but it's not an easy fix. Mitch. > On October 3, 2018 at 11:08 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > > https://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/d/2017-mercedes-benz-slc-300/6712111338.html > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** STOP MAX AND ME!!!!
Fuel pump is near the back axle behind a plastic splash guard. Have somebody turn the key while you listen down there. If no pump sound, buy it. Mine died a few years ago at 240+ thousand miles. Replaced it with a $40 used one from eBay. Mitch. > On October 3, 2018 at 11:00 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Kleb would be all over this > > https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/good-car-no-longer-in-need/6713767773.html > > -- > --FT > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** used car dealer, could be a good price
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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** STOP MAX AND ME!!!!
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: OT - .22 Rifles
Can you help me understand? Did Obama,do this by executive action? His EPA?? CONGRESS? When? Thanks. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Oct 2, 2018 12:42 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" wrote: just another way o'bungler managed to harass the citizenry. G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > Lead is now a "HAZMAT" material that requires special handling to ship > thanks to our friends at the EPA. > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: OT - .22 Rifles
> On October 2, 2018 at 9:33 PM Craig via Mercedes > wrote: > > > California has recently changed its law regarding "hazardous materials" > such that Internet retailers, no matter where they reside, have to flag > products which contain chemicals California deems hazardous with text > declaring: > > WARNING: This product contains chemicals known to the State of > California to cause cancer and birth defects or other > reproductive harm. For more information go to > www.P65Warnings.ca.gov I first learned of Prop 65 when I got a radio control servo with a Prop 65 sticker on it. "Warning, if you let a pregnant woman eat this device it might cause birth defects" So I looked it up on the net, and everything with lead solder in it had to carry the sticker if you sold it in CA. What's dumber than a California legislator? A California voter. But I'm pretty sure lead bullets don't have to ship as hazmat, as long as any that pass through CA have the Prop 65 warning on them. Completed cartridges have long been ORM-D materials, and gunpowder and primers have long been hazmat. IIRC, UPS demands you ship hazmat primers and hazmat powder separately so they can charge you two $25 hazmat fees. A couple weeks ago, Brownell's had a one day special, free shipping and free hazmat on $150 orders. I found out about it as I was getting ready to go to bed and was NOT prepared to order a bunch of powder and primers. If I'd know in advance I would have inventoried my supplies and put in a big order to take advantage of that deal. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 21:32:08 + Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > No ban, but they will have that label that says it can cause cancer in > California. California has recently changed its law regarding "hazardous materials" such that Internet retailers, no matter where they reside, have to flag products which contain chemicals California deems hazardous with text declaring: WARNING: This product contains chemicals known to the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm. For more information go to www.P65Warnings.ca.gov Marlin P. Jones (http://www.mpja.com) has taken this route: - As of August 2018 the State of California has changed the requirements of the "Prop 65" law. We now must list on our website any possible chemicals the can cause cancer, birth defects or reproductive problem. As an example: ABS plastic contains styrene PVC wire insulation can contain Di(2-ethylhexyl)phthalate (DEHP) electrolytic capacitors can contain Ethylene glycol Brass can contain Lead flame retardant pc boards can contain Tetrabromobisphenol A (TBBPA) Aluminum alloys can contain Chromium To put it simply we are a small company and do not have the resources to test every single part, so we list every thing as hazardous. Please recycle all electronic parts responsibly and under no circumstance eat, drink or smoke these parts and wash your hands after touching! - Craig > I'm just mentioning that environmental regulations have gotten out of > control. I wonder how long until CA bans any non-raw vegan foods. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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No ban, but they will have that label that says it can cause cancer in California. Rick Original Message From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: October 2, 2018 2:44 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; astrasfo...@gmail.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: curtlud...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: OT - .22 Rifles I'm just mentioning that environmental regulations have gotten out of control. I wonder how long until CA bans any non-raw vegan foods. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I'm just mentioning that environmental regulations have gotten out of control. I wonder how long until CA bans any non-raw vegan foods. -Curt On Tuesday, October 2, 2018, 3:13:47 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: No one is equating the risk of lead to that of browned cake. Unless you are? On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 1:17 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Lead is a boogieman for so many social problems. Max's drunkard probably got "too much" lead as a kid leading him down the path of dispair which lead to that incident...Witness that in CA every shop that sells baked goods is required to have a sign telling you about the "cancer risk" from browned foods... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 12:42 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: just another way o'bungler managed to harass the citizenry. G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > Lead is now a "HAZMAT" material that requires special handling to ship > thanks to our friends at the EPA. > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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No one is equating the risk of lead to that of browned cake. Unless you are? On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 1:17 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Lead is a boogieman for so many social problems. Max's drunkard probably > got "too much" lead as a kid leading him down the path of dispair which > lead to that incident...Witness that in CA every shop that sells baked > goods is required to have a sign telling you about the "cancer risk" from > browned foods... > > Curt > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 12:42 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes< > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: just another way o'bungler managed to > harass the citizenry. > > G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > > Lead is now a "HAZMAT" material that requires special handling to > ship > > thanks to our friends at the EPA. > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Lead is a boogieman for so many social problems. Max's drunkard probably got "too much" lead as a kid leading him down the path of dispair which lead to that incident...Witness that in CA every shop that sells baked goods is required to have a sign telling you about the "cancer risk" from browned foods... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 12:42 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: just another way o'bungler managed to harass the citizenry. G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > Lead is now a "HAZMAT" material that requires special handling to ship > thanks to our friends at the EPA. > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: Horrible Hobo attack last night
Thanks Larry, I'm thinking about using this "teachable moment" (which
happened a couple years ago) to further our daughter's education in the
political arena.
-
Max
Charleston SC
On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 11:39 AM Larry Turner via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Hi Max, I hope your wife and daughter can forget this assault and move
> on. It's doubtful the police will do anything. IMO it's a sign of
> neighbors starting to go downhill. Like the "broken window" syndrome
> which says a small problem leads to larger problems and pretty soon you
> have a slum.
>
> IMO you should be able to take your family to any restaurant and enjoy a
> meal without being assaulted but obviously my opinion differs from law
> enforcement. I know most of the rank and file police officers sincerely
> want to help people, but they must know the political types they work
> for are spoiling their good work ethic.
>
> Also, since the organizer is a Big D, they likely have sympathies on the
> side of the criminals (for some unknown reason) that will make
> prosecution that much more unlikely.
>
> As you know we used to live in Summerville and often enjoyed driving
> into C'town for shopping/dinner. We also liked the area that is around
> the harbor. I hope it's not all unpleasant?
>
> LarryT
>
>
> On 10/01/2018 11:46 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> > Yep, and I hear that the organizer of Second Sunday on King is a big D.
> I
> > should pass through channels to her some of the details I shared here,
> let
> > her know how she could improve that event and encourage more family
> > participation. I'll probably get labeled as an uncaring insensitive jerk
> > because I try to shield my family from that criminal behavior.
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 8:25 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Sounds about right. King street has become a haven for the bums when the
> >> panhandling ordinance was struck down ("free speech"). Most of them
> >> appear to be psychotic or illegal drug users or both.
> >>
> >> --R
> >>
> >>
> >> On 10/1/18 7:21 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> Clay,
> >>>
> >>> Sounds like well past this point, but agitating for change (start going
> >> to
> >>> city council meetings) might be lots of fun. Dashcam footage of the
> >>> event? Time to invest in several of those. Get cell phone footage,
> >> start
> >>> a you.tube or facebook page for sharing your reporting, gather up a
> group
> >>> of like-minded citizens and let your voice be heard.
> >>>
> >>> Downtown Chucktown one Sunday afternoon, SWMBO, SWMBette and I stopped
> >> for
> >>> a bite on King street. Shortly after we ordered the food, my wife
> >> stepped
> >>> outside to get some air. Our table was about three steps from the
> front
> >>> door, the restaurant front was all glass so she was completely visible
> to
> >>> myself and our daughter. Two men approached her and started trying to
> >> talk
> >>> to her, I started moving outside but before I got there one grabbed her
> >> and
> >>> hugged her. She pushed him away, I stepped in between and commenced to
> >> get
> >>> in his face but not get physical, she called 911 on her cell while I
> was
> >>> seeing this miscreant (drunk) and his companion (also drunk) off. An
> >>> officer arrived minutes later, immediately passed the description of
> the
> >>> perps on his radio, and then took our statements. Once we'd done that
> I
> >>> asked for the case number and made clear that we'd be very happy to
> >> appear
> >>> in court as witnesses to this criminal behavior. The cop apologized
> and
> >>> basically said don't hold your breath, the local prosecutor wouldn't
> >> bring
> >>> charges because the local judge would dismiss them in a case like this.
> >>> There would be a report but nothing beyond that. No name for the
> >> criminal,
> >>> so no way to attach to his record. We were pretty incredulous. I told
> >> the
> >>> restaurant owner that we'd take our business elsewhere, like to another
> >>> town that enforced the law, and enjoy the remains of our Sunday in
> peace.
> >>> From that moment on, I avoid spending money at any establishment
> >> downtown
> >>> if I can help it.
> >>> -
> >>> Max
> >>> Charleston SC
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: Horrible Hobo attack last night
Hi Max, I hope your wife and daughter can forget this assault and move
on. It's doubtful the police will do anything. IMO it's a sign of
neighbors starting to go downhill. Like the "broken window" syndrome
which says a small problem leads to larger problems and pretty soon you
have a slum.
IMO you should be able to take your family to any restaurant and enjoy a
meal without being assaulted but obviously my opinion differs from law
enforcement. I know most of the rank and file police officers sincerely
want to help people, but they must know the political types they work
for are spoiling their good work ethic.
Also, since the organizer is a Big D, they likely have sympathies on the
side of the criminals (for some unknown reason) that will make
prosecution that much more unlikely.
As you know we used to live in Summerville and often enjoyed driving
into C'town for shopping/dinner. We also liked the area that is around
the harbor. I hope it's not all unpleasant?
LarryT
On 10/01/2018 11:46 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
Yep, and I hear that the organizer of Second Sunday on King is a big D. I
should pass through channels to her some of the details I shared here, let
her know how she could improve that event and encourage more family
participation. I'll probably get labeled as an uncaring insensitive jerk
because I try to shield my family from that criminal behavior.
-
Max
Charleston SC
On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 8:25 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
Sounds about right. King street has become a haven for the bums when the
panhandling ordinance was struck down ("free speech"). Most of them
appear to be psychotic or illegal drug users or both.
--R
On 10/1/18 7:21 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
Clay,
Sounds like well past this point, but agitating for change (start going
to
city council meetings) might be lots of fun. Dashcam footage of the
event? Time to invest in several of those. Get cell phone footage,
start
a you.tube or facebook page for sharing your reporting, gather up a group
of like-minded citizens and let your voice be heard.
Downtown Chucktown one Sunday afternoon, SWMBO, SWMBette and I stopped
for
a bite on King street. Shortly after we ordered the food, my wife
stepped
outside to get some air. Our table was about three steps from the front
door, the restaurant front was all glass so she was completely visible to
myself and our daughter. Two men approached her and started trying to
talk
to her, I started moving outside but before I got there one grabbed her
and
hugged her. She pushed him away, I stepped in between and commenced to
get
in his face but not get physical, she called 911 on her cell while I was
seeing this miscreant (drunk) and his companion (also drunk) off. An
officer arrived minutes later, immediately passed the description of the
perps on his radio, and then took our statements. Once we'd done that I
asked for the case number and made clear that we'd be very happy to
appear
in court as witnesses to this criminal behavior. The cop apologized and
basically said don't hold your breath, the local prosecutor wouldn't
bring
charges because the local judge would dismiss them in a case like this.
There would be a report but nothing beyond that. No name for the
criminal,
so no way to attach to his record. We were pretty incredulous. I told
the
restaurant owner that we'd take our business elsewhere, like to another
town that enforced the law, and enjoy the remains of our Sunday in peace.
From that moment on, I avoid spending money at any establishment
downtown
if I can help it.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** OT Emmy Award
Very good! Just finished watching it. Michael E. Esh > On Oct 1, 2018, at 9:50 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > Way to go! > > On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 8:41 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> My buddy won an Emmy award tonight for Best Nature Documentary, Chasing >> Coral! It’s on Netflix to watch. >> >> --R >> Sent from iPhone >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Mon, 1 Oct 2018 19:04:34 -0700 Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: > > I have an aversion to humidity and heat > > But clearly no aversion to humidity and... temperate? Clay probably does not think of Seattle as humid. Likewise, when we were living in Los Osos, California, and going into San Luis Obispo, I did not think of the area as humid. I traveled to Colorado Springs for a job interview and then had Shirley join me to look at the area. When we returned to San Luis Obispo and Los Osos after 10 days, I readily discerned that the area was indeed humid. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> > I have an aversion to humidity and heat But clearly no aversion to humidity and... temperate? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Way to go! On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 8:41 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > My buddy won an Emmy award tonight for Best Nature Documentary, Chasing > Coral! It’s on Netflix to watch. > > --R > Sent from iPhone > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I have an aversion to humidity and heat clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net > On Oct 1, 2018, at 3:52 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Vote with your feet, come south and help us keep this state conservative. > - > Max > Charleston SC > > > On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 10:37 PM clay monroe via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> As an aside, tying into the hobo fiasco (which a firing squad would >> reduce) the former county executive we had, was appointed to the o’bummer >> cabinet as head of housing and urban development. Under his tutelage in >> DC, Seattle turned into a third world S*** hole, with thousands of hobo >> encamped on any and all public lands they can stake. >> >> SEA has onerous taxes upon fire arms and ammunition. Also soda pop, >> liquor, and smokes. At the moment, weed can be had at $3 a gram. Taxed. >> Ounces sell for $40 and up. Did I mention the council woman who wants to >> transport heroin for distribution gratis to on a special bus? Not for the >> casual user, but for the hobos and AIDS carriers. >> >> I think the tree of liberty in SEA may need to feed some Pb to elected >> morons >> >> >> clay monroe >> redgh...@comcast.net >> >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Any redeeming traits you'd care to disclose?
On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 12:17 PM G Mann via Mercedes
wrote:
> I refer to them as "Politicians in Training"
> They make a mess, make demands, follow no known rules, make up their own
> reality, are bat shit crazy, abuse alcohol and drugs, and expect "someone
> else to clean it up" all while taking as much public money as they can
> get.
> Sounds like your average politician?
>
> On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 5:25 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Sounds about right. King street has become a haven for the bums when the
> > panhandling ordinance was struck down ("free speech"). Most of them
> > appear to be psychotic or illegal drug users or both.
> >
> > --R
> >
> >
> > On 10/1/18 7:21 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> > > Clay,
> > >
> > > Sounds like well past this point, but agitating for change (start going
> > to
> > > city council meetings) might be lots of fun. Dashcam footage of the
> > > event? Time to invest in several of those. Get cell phone footage,
> > start
> > > a you.tube or facebook page for sharing your reporting, gather up a
> group
> > > of like-minded citizens and let your voice be heard.
> > >
> > > Downtown Chucktown one Sunday afternoon, SWMBO, SWMBette and I stopped
> > for
> > > a bite on King street. Shortly after we ordered the food, my wife
> > stepped
> > > outside to get some air. Our table was about three steps from the
> front
> > > door, the restaurant front was all glass so she was completely visible
> to
> > > myself and our daughter. Two men approached her and started trying to
> > talk
> > > to her, I started moving outside but before I got there one grabbed her
> > and
> > > hugged her. She pushed him away, I stepped in between and commenced to
> > get
> > > in his face but not get physical, she called 911 on her cell while I
> was
> > > seeing this miscreant (drunk) and his companion (also drunk) off. An
> > > officer arrived minutes later, immediately passed the description of
> the
> > > perps on his radio, and then took our statements. Once we'd done that
> I
> > > asked for the case number and made clear that we'd be very happy to
> > appear
> > > in court as witnesses to this criminal behavior. The cop apologized
> and
> > > basically said don't hold your breath, the local prosecutor wouldn't
> > bring
> > > charges because the local judge would dismiss them in a case like this.
> > > There would be a report but nothing beyond that. No name for the
> > criminal,
> > > so no way to attach to his record. We were pretty incredulous. I told
> > the
> > > restaurant owner that we'd take our business elsewhere, like to another
> > > town that enforced the law, and enjoy the remains of our Sunday in
> peace.
> > > From that moment on, I avoid spending money at any establishment
> > downtown
> > > if I can help it.
> > > -
> > > Max
> > > Charleston SC
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 6:53 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> M Bodyguard (.380 ACP) or Ruger LC9S or both, depending...
> > >>
> > >> I’ll have to look at the USCCA.
> > >>
> > >> --FT
> > >> Sent from iPhone
> > >>
> > >>> On Oct 1, 2018, at 12:32 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
> > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>> +1. USCCA great for training and "insurance". Anyone who supports
> the
> > >> Second Amendment should belong to the NRA.
> > >>> I should carry always but only carry selectively, usually a Shield 9.
> > I
> > >> carry concealed, hoping the element of surprise would work in my
> favor.
> > >>> There are no winners in a gun fight but it's still better to be tried
> > by
> > >> 12 than carried by 6.
> > >>> I fully expect to be led away in handcuffs if I use lethal force for
> > >> self-defense. What happens after that depends largely on
> circumstances
> > and
> > >> even more on the local political environment. Living in rural NC,
> > where I
> > >> know the current Sheriff (and the three candidates to succeed him), is
> > >> probably a best case. But in many "blue" states (and the UK) it's a
> > no-win
> > >> proposition. We are just cogs in the machine; not important to the
> > ruling
> > >> aristocracy.
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Larry Turner via Mercedes
> >
> > You are 100% correct! The 1st thing that will happen if any of us
> law
> > >> abiding
> > people need to display or God forbid, shoot someone, is we will be
> > >> arrested &
> > thrown in jail until a judge decides to grant us bail
> > (hopefully) = and if we happen to have $25 or $50K we'll still have
> to
> > >> come up
> > with many more $1000's in lawyer fees. Carrying is a two edged
> sword
> > -
> > >> don't
> > carry and need a gun, you or a loved one might end up dead, if you
> do
> > >> carry
> > and use it, your financial well being may be lost in a few weeks
> while
> > >>
Re: [MBZ] spam what color
Did you get a notification saying the message was being held for approval? I looked in the queue and didn’t see anything. I believe Kaleb has the message size limit set to 40k. -D > On Oct 1, 2018, at 2:14 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes > wrote: > > i guess pictures attached to email to okiebenz is spam, i.e. awaiting > mod approval. > the color is very light blue in the pictures or grey. what color > might that be? or, perhaps it is a respray? > tin > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I refer to them as "Politicians in Training"
They make a mess, make demands, follow no known rules, make up their own
reality, are bat shit crazy, abuse alcohol and drugs, and expect "someone
else to clean it up" all while taking as much public money as they can
get.
Sounds like your average politician?
On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 5:25 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Sounds about right. King street has become a haven for the bums when the
> panhandling ordinance was struck down ("free speech"). Most of them
> appear to be psychotic or illegal drug users or both.
>
> --R
>
>
> On 10/1/18 7:21 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> > Clay,
> >
> > Sounds like well past this point, but agitating for change (start going
> to
> > city council meetings) might be lots of fun. Dashcam footage of the
> > event? Time to invest in several of those. Get cell phone footage,
> start
> > a you.tube or facebook page for sharing your reporting, gather up a group
> > of like-minded citizens and let your voice be heard.
> >
> > Downtown Chucktown one Sunday afternoon, SWMBO, SWMBette and I stopped
> for
> > a bite on King street. Shortly after we ordered the food, my wife
> stepped
> > outside to get some air. Our table was about three steps from the front
> > door, the restaurant front was all glass so she was completely visible to
> > myself and our daughter. Two men approached her and started trying to
> talk
> > to her, I started moving outside but before I got there one grabbed her
> and
> > hugged her. She pushed him away, I stepped in between and commenced to
> get
> > in his face but not get physical, she called 911 on her cell while I was
> > seeing this miscreant (drunk) and his companion (also drunk) off. An
> > officer arrived minutes later, immediately passed the description of the
> > perps on his radio, and then took our statements. Once we'd done that I
> > asked for the case number and made clear that we'd be very happy to
> appear
> > in court as witnesses to this criminal behavior. The cop apologized and
> > basically said don't hold your breath, the local prosecutor wouldn't
> bring
> > charges because the local judge would dismiss them in a case like this.
> > There would be a report but nothing beyond that. No name for the
> criminal,
> > so no way to attach to his record. We were pretty incredulous. I told
> the
> > restaurant owner that we'd take our business elsewhere, like to another
> > town that enforced the law, and enjoy the remains of our Sunday in peace.
> > From that moment on, I avoid spending money at any establishment
> downtown
> > if I can help it.
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 6:53 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> M Bodyguard (.380 ACP) or Ruger LC9S or both, depending...
> >>
> >> I’ll have to look at the USCCA.
> >>
> >> --FT
> >> Sent from iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Oct 1, 2018, at 12:32 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>> +1. USCCA great for training and "insurance". Anyone who supports the
> >> Second Amendment should belong to the NRA.
> >>> I should carry always but only carry selectively, usually a Shield 9.
> I
> >> carry concealed, hoping the element of surprise would work in my favor.
> >>> There are no winners in a gun fight but it's still better to be tried
> by
> >> 12 than carried by 6.
> >>> I fully expect to be led away in handcuffs if I use lethal force for
> >> self-defense. What happens after that depends largely on circumstances
> and
> >> even more on the local political environment. Living in rural NC,
> where I
> >> know the current Sheriff (and the three candidates to succeed him), is
> >> probably a best case. But in many "blue" states (and the UK) it's a
> no-win
> >> proposition. We are just cogs in the machine; not important to the
> ruling
> >> aristocracy.
> -Original Message-
> From: Larry Turner via Mercedes
>
> You are 100% correct! The 1st thing that will happen if any of us law
> >> abiding
> people need to display or God forbid, shoot someone, is we will be
> >> arrested &
> thrown in jail until a judge decides to grant us bail
> (hopefully) = and if we happen to have $25 or $50K we'll still have to
> >> come up
> with many more $1000's in lawyer fees. Carrying is a two edged sword
> -
> >> don't
> carry and need a gun, you or a loved one might end up dead, if you do
> >> carry
> and use it, your financial well being may be lost in a few weeks while
> >> dealing
> with our criminal-justice system. This isn't how it was supposed to
> >> be...
> BTW, USCCA may be the one most have heard of who travel in 2nd A
> >> circles
> but the NRA and some others offer policies as well. Lots of
> choices...
>
> LarryT
> >>>
> >>> ___
> >>>
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: Horrible Hobo attack last night
Yep, and I hear that the organizer of Second Sunday on King is a big D. I
should pass through channels to her some of the details I shared here, let
her know how she could improve that event and encourage more family
participation. I'll probably get labeled as an uncaring insensitive jerk
because I try to shield my family from that criminal behavior.
-
Max
Charleston SC
On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 8:25 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Sounds about right. King street has become a haven for the bums when the
> panhandling ordinance was struck down ("free speech"). Most of them
> appear to be psychotic or illegal drug users or both.
>
> --R
>
>
> On 10/1/18 7:21 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> > Clay,
> >
> > Sounds like well past this point, but agitating for change (start going
> to
> > city council meetings) might be lots of fun. Dashcam footage of the
> > event? Time to invest in several of those. Get cell phone footage,
> start
> > a you.tube or facebook page for sharing your reporting, gather up a group
> > of like-minded citizens and let your voice be heard.
> >
> > Downtown Chucktown one Sunday afternoon, SWMBO, SWMBette and I stopped
> for
> > a bite on King street. Shortly after we ordered the food, my wife
> stepped
> > outside to get some air. Our table was about three steps from the front
> > door, the restaurant front was all glass so she was completely visible to
> > myself and our daughter. Two men approached her and started trying to
> talk
> > to her, I started moving outside but before I got there one grabbed her
> and
> > hugged her. She pushed him away, I stepped in between and commenced to
> get
> > in his face but not get physical, she called 911 on her cell while I was
> > seeing this miscreant (drunk) and his companion (also drunk) off. An
> > officer arrived minutes later, immediately passed the description of the
> > perps on his radio, and then took our statements. Once we'd done that I
> > asked for the case number and made clear that we'd be very happy to
> appear
> > in court as witnesses to this criminal behavior. The cop apologized and
> > basically said don't hold your breath, the local prosecutor wouldn't
> bring
> > charges because the local judge would dismiss them in a case like this.
> > There would be a report but nothing beyond that. No name for the
> criminal,
> > so no way to attach to his record. We were pretty incredulous. I told
> the
> > restaurant owner that we'd take our business elsewhere, like to another
> > town that enforced the law, and enjoy the remains of our Sunday in peace.
> > From that moment on, I avoid spending money at any establishment
> downtown
> > if I can help it.
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
>
>
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Sounds about right. King street has become a haven for the bums when the
panhandling ordinance was struck down ("free speech"). Most of them
appear to be psychotic or illegal drug users or both.
--R
On 10/1/18 7:21 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
Clay,
Sounds like well past this point, but agitating for change (start going to
city council meetings) might be lots of fun. Dashcam footage of the
event? Time to invest in several of those. Get cell phone footage, start
a you.tube or facebook page for sharing your reporting, gather up a group
of like-minded citizens and let your voice be heard.
Downtown Chucktown one Sunday afternoon, SWMBO, SWMBette and I stopped for
a bite on King street. Shortly after we ordered the food, my wife stepped
outside to get some air. Our table was about three steps from the front
door, the restaurant front was all glass so she was completely visible to
myself and our daughter. Two men approached her and started trying to talk
to her, I started moving outside but before I got there one grabbed her and
hugged her. She pushed him away, I stepped in between and commenced to get
in his face but not get physical, she called 911 on her cell while I was
seeing this miscreant (drunk) and his companion (also drunk) off. An
officer arrived minutes later, immediately passed the description of the
perps on his radio, and then took our statements. Once we'd done that I
asked for the case number and made clear that we'd be very happy to appear
in court as witnesses to this criminal behavior. The cop apologized and
basically said don't hold your breath, the local prosecutor wouldn't bring
charges because the local judge would dismiss them in a case like this.
There would be a report but nothing beyond that. No name for the criminal,
so no way to attach to his record. We were pretty incredulous. I told the
restaurant owner that we'd take our business elsewhere, like to another
town that enforced the law, and enjoy the remains of our Sunday in peace.
From that moment on, I avoid spending money at any establishment downtown
if I can help it.
-
Max
Charleston SC
On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 6:53 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
M Bodyguard (.380 ACP) or Ruger LC9S or both, depending...
I’ll have to look at the USCCA.
--FT
Sent from iPhone
On Oct 1, 2018, at 12:32 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
+1. USCCA great for training and "insurance". Anyone who supports the
Second Amendment should belong to the NRA.
I should carry always but only carry selectively, usually a Shield 9. I
carry concealed, hoping the element of surprise would work in my favor.
There are no winners in a gun fight but it's still better to be tried by
12 than carried by 6.
I fully expect to be led away in handcuffs if I use lethal force for
self-defense. What happens after that depends largely on circumstances and
even more on the local political environment. Living in rural NC, where I
know the current Sheriff (and the three candidates to succeed him), is
probably a best case. But in many "blue" states (and the UK) it's a no-win
proposition. We are just cogs in the machine; not important to the ruling
aristocracy.
-Original Message-
From: Larry Turner via Mercedes
You are 100% correct! The 1st thing that will happen if any of us law
abiding
people need to display or God forbid, shoot someone, is we will be
arrested &
thrown in jail until a judge decides to grant us bail
(hopefully) = and if we happen to have $25 or $50K we'll still have to
come up
with many more $1000's in lawyer fees. Carrying is a two edged sword -
don't
carry and need a gun, you or a loved one might end up dead, if you do
carry
and use it, your financial well being may be lost in a few weeks while
dealing
with our criminal-justice system. This isn't how it was supposed to
be...
BTW, USCCA may be the one most have heard of who travel in 2nd A
circles
but the NRA and some others offer policies as well. Lots of choices...
LarryT
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Vote with your feet, come south and help us keep this state conservative. - Max Charleston SC On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 10:37 PM clay monroe via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > As an aside, tying into the hobo fiasco (which a firing squad would > reduce) the former county executive we had, was appointed to the o’bummer > cabinet as head of housing and urban development. Under his tutelage in > DC, Seattle turned into a third world S*** hole, with thousands of hobo > encamped on any and all public lands they can stake. > > SEA has onerous taxes upon fire arms and ammunition. Also soda pop, > liquor, and smokes. At the moment, weed can be had at $3 a gram. Taxed. > Ounces sell for $40 and up. Did I mention the council woman who wants to > transport heroin for distribution gratis to on a special bus? Not for the > casual user, but for the hobos and AIDS carriers. > > I think the tree of liberty in SEA may need to feed some Pb to elected > morons > > > clay monroe > redgh...@comcast.net > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I think potentially deadly (if misused) drugs should be free, at taxpayer expense. So long as you are 'on the rez', so to speak. I.e., Coventry. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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As an aside, tying into the hobo fiasco (which a firing squad would reduce) the former county executive we had, was appointed to the o’bummer cabinet as head of housing and urban development. Under his tutelage in DC, Seattle turned into a third world S*** hole, with thousands of hobo encamped on any and all public lands they can stake. SEA has onerous taxes upon fire arms and ammunition. Also soda pop, liquor, and smokes. At the moment, weed can be had at $3 a gram. Taxed. Ounces sell for $40 and up. Did I mention the council woman who wants to transport heroin for distribution gratis to on a special bus? Not for the casual user, but for the hobos and AIDS carriers. I think the tree of liberty in SEA may need to feed some Pb to elected morons clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net > On Sep 30, 2018, at 7:19 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes > wrote: > > Wow! That must have kicked in since I last bought bullets! I know primers > and powder require Hazmat fees. Man!, obama's minions are still pulling the > strings! > > LarryT > > > On 09/30/2018 3:40 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: >> Lead is now a "HAZMAT" material that requires special handling to ship >> thanks to our friends at the EPA. >> >> On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 9:58 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> more likely some corporate "wizard" decided to include chunks of metal >>> in "a m m o" >>> >>> Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: Wow! the bullets you tried to order can hardly be considered ammo (IMO) - without the case, primer and powder they're just chunks of metal. And since they were for a muzzleloader it's especially a problem. I guess whoever wrote the regulations must have been covering all the bases... That's just not right. LarryT >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Wow! That must have kicked in since I last bought bullets! I know primers and powder require Hazmat fees. Man!, obama's minions are still pulling the strings! LarryT On 09/30/2018 3:40 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Lead is now a "HAZMAT" material that requires special handling to ship thanks to our friends at the EPA. On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 9:58 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: more likely some corporate "wizard" decided to include chunks of metal in "a m m o" Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: Wow! the bullets you tried to order can hardly be considered ammo (IMO) - without the case, primer and powder they're just chunks of metal. And since they were for a muzzleloader it's especially a problem. I guess whoever wrote the regulations must have been covering all the bases... That's just not right. LarryT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Lead is now a "HAZMAT" material that requires special handling to ship thanks to our friends at the EPA. On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 9:58 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > more likely some corporate "wizard" decided to include chunks of metal > in "a m m o" > > Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: > > Wow! the bullets you tried to order can hardly be considered ammo > > (IMO) - without the case, primer and powder they're just chunks of > > metal. And since they were for a muzzleloader it's especially a > > problem. I guess whoever wrote the regulations must have been > > covering all the bases... > > > > That's just not right. > > > > LarryT > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: OT - .22 Rifles
more likely some corporate "wizard" decided to include chunks of metal in "a m m o" Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: Wow! the bullets you tried to order can hardly be considered ammo (IMO) - without the case, primer and powder they're just chunks of metal. And since they were for a muzzleloader it's especially a problem. I guess whoever wrote the regulations must have been covering all the bases... That's just not right. LarryT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Dead short
Yeah but they're cheap. fmiser via Mercedes wrote: Grant wrote: Dead short: Install solid copper link instead of a fuse, and watch for the smoke. What's so hard about that? Rick wrote: There. I fixed it. That is not a fix!! Why, what a stupid way to solve the problem! Those jumpers are iron and not copper - or even aluminum! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> > > Grant wrote: > > > > > > Dead short: Install solid copper link instead of a fuse, and > > > watch for the smoke. What's so hard about that? > > > Rick wrote: > > > > There. > > > > I fixed it. [ image of iron pipe in place of cartridge fuses ] > fmiser wrote: > > That is not a fix!! Why, what a stupid way to solve the problem! > Those jumpers are iron and not copper - or even aluminum! > Rick wrote: > It's a joke. Well, so was my reply. Maybe I was too subtle. Using a metal pipe where a fuse belongs is a bad idea, so I choose to complain about the use of (relatively) poor conductive iron rather than good conducting copper. In a application like that, either one is going to allow the wires after it to get hot enough to burn the building down. So my tirade against not using copper was intended to be an extension of your joke. Again, maybe to subtle. Or my delivery was too dry. *smiles* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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It's a joke. Lighten up, please. There is way too much seriousness in the world. A little levity is welcome occasionally. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: September 28, 2018 1:21 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: fmi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Dead short > > Grant wrote: > > > > Dead short: Install solid copper link instead of a fuse, and > > watch for the smoke. What's so hard about that? > Rick wrote: > > There. > > I fixed it. That is not a fix!! Why, what a stupid way to solve the problem! Those jumpers are iron and not copper - or even aluminum! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> > Grant wrote: > > > > Dead short: Install solid copper link instead of a fuse, and > > watch for the smoke. What's so hard about that? > Rick wrote: > > There. > > I fixed it. That is not a fix!! Why, what a stupid way to solve the problem! Those jumpers are iron and not copper - or even aluminum! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> > > fmiser wrote: > > > Got an email from that amazing guru of Mercedes repair, Kent. > > Curley wrote: > > > > All you need is to get a blue shop coat to be as smart or > > smarter than Kent. > Kaleb wrote: > The kids of fakebook love him. Figures. The belong together. Both seem to value style more than accuracy. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> Dan--- wrote: > ... set up a power cord at each bench with a mogul base light > bulb in series whose amperage draw was less than the controller > under load. > > I’ve used the same approach with troubleshooting DC circuits in > cars for years using a brake light bulb in place of the fuse for > the affected circuit. If there’s a short, the bulb will light. > If not, it will pass enough current for the circuit to operate > normally. That is a most excellent way to save fuses. But there are circuits that won't work "normal" with the lamp in series, and situation that the lamp will light when it's not shorted. For example, brakes light circuit. With a lamp in series with the two brake lights the current control lamp will glow - and the brake lights will be dim. But it's still useful, because if it was shorted the brake lights won't work at all - or be super dim. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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He may not be perfect and there is no doubt that his prices are a bit high but you cannot fault him for trying to make a living. I think he and others like him should be encouraged. He is promoting old MB's which most of us think is a good thing to do. If you disagree with his approach, then I suggest you send him an email telling him what you think. He may well benefit from some advice. RB On 27/09/2018 11:40 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: Got an email from that amazing guru of Mercedes repair, Kent. (can you feel the sarcasm) He says, "A dead short (one that instantly blows fuses) in your Mercedes can be one of the hardest electrical problems to troubleshoot and fix. I guess my idea of "hard to troubleshoot" and his are different. Dead shorts are easy to identify the circuit with a problem, and it's clear when the problem is fixed. I'm reluctant to promote his, ah - err "stuff" - but I'm curious if any of the rest of you find it hard to fix dead shorts? I guess mostly I'm trying to get a glimpse of "normal" from wherever it is that I am. ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 10:25:52 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > But could be a reasonable deal for a 124 > > https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/merc-benz/6707430496.html I wonder what the driver's seat looks like ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Hahaha!Great story! You are quite welcome!I have 2 of em I saved. archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: G Mann wrote: Intermittent short: ... Now, that is much harder... Hell, for one of those, I have to wear a WHITE shop coat and put on my blue gloves... .. The important thing is to wear an "experienced" white coat. Years ago I bought a very experienced white coat from Curley; well, between the splotches and stains it was white; and that coat is the reason I don't very often have to ask for help on the list. There isn't much I can't fix while wearing that coat; and there isn't much I can fix without it. Thanks, Curley! Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] ***SPAM*** potato cam pics
But could be a reasonable deal for a 124 https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/merc-benz/6707430496.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] ***SPAM*** Might be reasonable for Craig at a bit lower price
I think this one has been listed before, doesn't look too bad at maybe $2500 and some Poosing https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1997-diesel-mercedes-benz-e300/6708130757.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] ***SPAM*** So this is a steel.
Car is located in myrtle beach. Recently washed well. https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/1999-mercedes-benz-cl500-amg/6709046081.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Dead short
> > Dead short: Install solid copper link instead of a fuse, and watch for the > smoke. What's so hard about that? There. I fixed it. Rick___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Dead short
Last dead short we had in a Benz was a grounded wire for the trunk light on the 300SDL. It was a pain to fix, but not hard, as the back seat upper rest had to come out to get the wiring harness split up to where the wires weren't melted. Had to splice in a bunch of wire for taillights, new wire for trunk light, etc as the short had melted and fused some stuff in the wire bundle, but it was a very straightforward fix. Easy to troubleshoot too if you have a VOM. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The kids of fakebook love him. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 27, 2018, at 11:45 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > you are right. (again) The intermittent stuff is tough, unless you get > lucky. > > All you need is to get a blue shop coat to be as smart or smarter than Kent. > (oh, and make videos) (or post to the fookbase 123 group.) > > fmiser via Mercedes wrote: >> Got an email from that amazing guru of Mercedes repair, Kent. >> >> (can you feel the sarcasm) >> >> He says, "A dead short (one that instantly blows fuses) in your >> Mercedes can be one of the hardest electrical problems to >> troubleshoot and fix. >> >> I guess my idea of "hard to troubleshoot" and his are different. >> Dead shorts are easy to identify the circuit with a problem, and >> it's clear when the problem is fixed. >> >> I'm reluctant to promote his, ah - err "stuff" - but I'm curious >> if any of the rest of you find it hard to fix dead shorts? I >> guess mostly I'm trying to get a glimpse of "normal" from wherever >> it is that I am. >> >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Dead short
I could buy a whole new car for the price of a bottle of 50yo scotch whisky --FT (who sometimes makes rye comments too) Sent from iPhone > On Sep 28, 2018, at 12:54 AM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > Dead short: Install solid copper link instead of a fuse, and watch for the > smoke. What's so hard about that? > > Intermittent short: ... Now, that is much harder... > > Hell, for one of those, I have to wear a WHITE shop coat and put on my blue > gloves... > For an intermittent short, the best fix is a glass and a bottle of 50 yr > old single malt scotch. It doesn't fix the problem, but you care less about > it for a while. > > On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 9:46 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> you are right. (again) The intermittent stuff is tough, unless you get >> lucky. >> >> All you need is to get a blue shop coat to be as smart or smarter than >> Kent. (oh, and make videos) (or post to the fookbase 123 group.) >> >> fmiser via Mercedes wrote: >>> Got an email from that amazing guru of Mercedes repair, Kent. >>> >>> (can you feel the sarcasm) >>> >>> He says, "A dead short (one that instantly blows fuses) in your >>> Mercedes can be one of the hardest electrical problems to >>> troubleshoot and fix. >>> >>> I guess my idea of "hard to troubleshoot" and his are different. >>> Dead shorts are easy to identify the circuit with a problem, and >>> it's clear when the problem is fixed. >>> >>> I'm reluctant to promote his, ah - err "stuff" - but I'm curious >>> if any of the rest of you find it hard to fix dead shorts? I >>> guess mostly I'm trying to get a glimpse of "normal" from wherever >>> it is that I am. >>> >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Dead short
I learned a cool trick as a bench tech working on variable speed DC motor
controls many, many years ago.
One of the most common failures we would see on units coming in for repairs
were shorted triacs in the output stage of the drive. Of course these would
immediately blow a fuse or trip a breaker when the controller was powered up
and activated.
Our design guy, a real savant but total nut job, set up a power cord at each
bench with a mogul base light bulb in series whose amperage draw was less than
the controller under load. If the controller was good, it would run just fine
and the bulb would never light. But - if the controller was bad, in that the
output triacs were shorted, as soon as you plugged it in the bulb would light.
Simple, yet effective. No blown fuses or tripped breakers.
I’ve used the same approach with troubleshooting DC circuits in cars for years
using a brake light bulb in place of the fuse for the affected circuit. If
there’s a short, the bulb will light. If not, it will pass enough current for
the circuit to operate normally.
-D
> On Sep 28, 2018, at 7:19 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Last weekend I had a dead short that blew #5 fuse in The White Whale. Took
> me about five minutes to diagnose and fix. No white coat or blue gloves
> needed.
>
> The story: rented a u-haul trailer, when I hooked up my trailer wiring I
> managed to get the euro socket inserted 180 degrees off, and the fuse
> blew. Tried a new fuse, it blew as well. Double-checked the last thing
> that changed (the trailer electrical connector) and found and fixed the
> problem.
>
> I also have an intermittent problem with the HVAC blower motor in my
> 124.131 ('95 E300 Diesel). That took me a couple of hours to diagnose
> completely (because I had to take off all the cowling rubber and plastic to
> get down to the blower motor), but I was able to narrow the problem down to
> either the blower motor or the controller for the blower motor in about 20
> minutes using divide and conquer. I'm really thinking about putting new
> brushes in that motor instead of replacing it.
>
> Kent's stuff: I did buy his guide and special tool for R the squirrel
> cage fan blades on a 124 blower motor, and did that job about 12 years ago
> on The White Whale, that Bosh motor is still going strong. I think it was
> a good value, IIRC it was around $25 for the tool and guide.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 12:41 AM fmiser via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
>> I
>> guess mostly I'm trying to get a glimpse of "normal" from wherever
>> it is that I am.
>>
>>
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>
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Last weekend I had a dead short that blew #5 fuse in The White Whale. Took
me about five minutes to diagnose and fix. No white coat or blue gloves
needed.
The story: rented a u-haul trailer, when I hooked up my trailer wiring I
managed to get the euro socket inserted 180 degrees off, and the fuse
blew. Tried a new fuse, it blew as well. Double-checked the last thing
that changed (the trailer electrical connector) and found and fixed the
problem.
I also have an intermittent problem with the HVAC blower motor in my
124.131 ('95 E300 Diesel). That took me a couple of hours to diagnose
completely (because I had to take off all the cowling rubber and plastic to
get down to the blower motor), but I was able to narrow the problem down to
either the blower motor or the controller for the blower motor in about 20
minutes using divide and conquer. I'm really thinking about putting new
brushes in that motor instead of replacing it.
Kent's stuff: I did buy his guide and special tool for R the squirrel
cage fan blades on a 124 blower motor, and did that job about 12 years ago
on The White Whale, that Bosh motor is still going strong. I think it was
a good value, IIRC it was around $25 for the tool and guide.
-
Max
Charleston SC
On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 12:41 AM fmiser via Mercedes
wrote:
> I
> guess mostly I'm trying to get a glimpse of "normal" from wherever
> it is that I am.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Dead short
G Mann wrote: > Intermittent short: ... Now, that is much harder... > > Hell, for one of those, I have to wear a WHITE shop coat and put on my blue > gloves... .. The important thing is to wear an "experienced" white coat. Years ago I bought a very experienced white coat from Curley; well, between the splotches and stains it was white; and that coat is the reason I don't very often have to ask for help on the list. There isn't much I can't fix while wearing that coat; and there isn't much I can fix without it. Thanks, Curley! Gerry --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Intermittent electrical problems are the toughest to solve, because they are intermittent (bad grounds, loose wires, cracked connectors (visibly okay, electrically not so much), failing relays, etc.). Dead short, not too bad, but can be time consuming. The hardest part in diagnosis sometimes, is locating an accurate electrical diagram. Pretty damn hard to get from here to there without a roadmap. Rick Original Message From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: September 27, 2018 11:46 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: 126die...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Dead short you are right. (again) The intermittent stuff is tough, unless you get lucky. All you need is to get a blue shop coat to be as smart or smarter than Kent. (oh, and make videos) (or post to the fookbase 123 group.) fmiser via Mercedes wrote: > Got an email from that amazing guru of Mercedes repair, Kent. > > (can you feel the sarcasm) > > He says, "A dead short (one that instantly blows fuses) in your > Mercedes can be one of the hardest electrical problems to > troubleshoot and fix. > > I guess my idea of "hard to troubleshoot" and his are different. > Dead shorts are easy to identify the circuit with a problem, and > it's clear when the problem is fixed. > > I'm reluctant to promote his, ah - err "stuff" - but I'm curious > if any of the rest of you find it hard to fix dead shorts? I > guess mostly I'm trying to get a glimpse of "normal" from wherever > it is that I am. > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Dead short
Dead short: Install solid copper link instead of a fuse, and watch for the smoke. What's so hard about that? Intermittent short: ... Now, that is much harder... Hell, for one of those, I have to wear a WHITE shop coat and put on my blue gloves... For an intermittent short, the best fix is a glass and a bottle of 50 yr old single malt scotch. It doesn't fix the problem, but you care less about it for a while. On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 9:46 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > you are right. (again) The intermittent stuff is tough, unless you get > lucky. > > All you need is to get a blue shop coat to be as smart or smarter than > Kent. (oh, and make videos) (or post to the fookbase 123 group.) > > fmiser via Mercedes wrote: > > Got an email from that amazing guru of Mercedes repair, Kent. > > > > (can you feel the sarcasm) > > > > He says, "A dead short (one that instantly blows fuses) in your > > Mercedes can be one of the hardest electrical problems to > > troubleshoot and fix. > > > > I guess my idea of "hard to troubleshoot" and his are different. > > Dead shorts are easy to identify the circuit with a problem, and > > it's clear when the problem is fixed. > > > > I'm reluctant to promote his, ah - err "stuff" - but I'm curious > > if any of the rest of you find it hard to fix dead shorts? I > > guess mostly I'm trying to get a glimpse of "normal" from wherever > > it is that I am. > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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you are right. (again) The intermittent stuff is tough, unless you get lucky. All you need is to get a blue shop coat to be as smart or smarter than Kent. (oh, and make videos) (or post to the fookbase 123 group.) fmiser via Mercedes wrote: Got an email from that amazing guru of Mercedes repair, Kent. (can you feel the sarcasm) He says, "A dead short (one that instantly blows fuses) in your Mercedes can be one of the hardest electrical problems to troubleshoot and fix. I guess my idea of "hard to troubleshoot" and his are different. Dead shorts are easy to identify the circuit with a problem, and it's clear when the problem is fixed. I'm reluctant to promote his, ah - err "stuff" - but I'm curious if any of the rest of you find it hard to fix dead shorts? I guess mostly I'm trying to get a glimpse of "normal" from wherever it is that I am. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] ***SPAM*** Dead short
Got an email from that amazing guru of Mercedes repair, Kent. (can you feel the sarcasm) He says, "A dead short (one that instantly blows fuses) in your Mercedes can be one of the hardest electrical problems to troubleshoot and fix. I guess my idea of "hard to troubleshoot" and his are different. Dead shorts are easy to identify the circuit with a problem, and it's clear when the problem is fixed. I'm reluctant to promote his, ah - err "stuff" - but I'm curious if any of the rest of you find it hard to fix dead shorts? I guess mostly I'm trying to get a glimpse of "normal" from wherever it is that I am. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Slightly OT: EMP Preparedness
Maybe too dire but a snappy read: https://www.amazon.com/EMP-Equipping-Modern-Patriots-Survival/dp/0615885926/ > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of G > Mann via Mercedes > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 2:13 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: G Mann > Subject: Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Slightly OT: EMP Preparedness > > I'm a diesel Ford truck guy, presently own 5. So, I may have some > qualifications > to answer your question. > > Prior to 1994, the International engines Ford used were Indirect Injection, > with > Mechanical injection pumps. The only electrical device which is EMP sensitive > is the fuel solenoid, mounted on top front of the mechanical IP.. > It requires 12V to turn on fuel flow to the IP With that solenoid > energized, > you can roll the truck down a hill, or pull it with a mule [put it in second > gear, > get it rolling with clutch in.. pop clutch to rotate engine and it will > start.] > > Post 1994, injection became "direct injection" with a computer controlling > injectors to open and close fuel flow to each cylinder. That computer takes an > electronic signal off another electrical device called "Cam Position Sensor" > which tells the computer the cylinder position for fuel injection and > timing... > There are a number of other electric systems and sensors that "run the > engine".. such as throttle position sensor... you foot runs an electronic > sensor > to select desired engine speed... not a throttle cable like pre 94 mechanical > injection. > > So, if you have a post 94 Ford Diesel Power Stroke truck... and an EMP event, > carry a good set of walking shoes or a bicycle... cause you won't be driving > it > home... and you'll need a bunch of electronic test equipment to determine > what is fried...[which also got fried, most likely] > > > > On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 10:38 AM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Recent information has been coming out about the vulnerability of the > > US to an EMP attack. I recall the press touting the "failure" of a > > NORK hydrogen bomb test because it had a low yield. I knew at the time > > that the test was no failure, but was about a very lightweight weapon > > that could be carried by the barely adequate missile technology they > > had so that it could be used as an EMP. > > > > > > > > My questions are: > > > > > > > > Would my '97 Powerstroke 7.3 be functional after such an attack? > > > > > > > > If not, are there components I could keep on hand in a Faraday Cage to > > get it back in service? > > > > > > > > Greg > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Slightly OT: EMP Preparedness
Remember - all those wires going into and out of those boxes act as antennas - collecting EM radiation. You have to shield the entire system, not just the box boxes. On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 9:52 AM G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > Likely just radar. Military has some pretty high output radar in early > warning systems and missile defense systems of about that era. Most likely, > the magic ignition box was not shielded in any way from the microwave > output of said radar... since it was a repeat event, and duration was > short, about the sweep time of a large array radar antenna... > > On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 12:49 AM archer75--- via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 23:19:12 -0500 > > fmiser via Mercedes wrote: > > > > > > Greg wrote: > > > > > > > Recent information has been coming out about the vulnerability > > > > of the US to an EMP attack. > > > > > > As I understand, EMP (Electro Magnetic Pulse) is the result of a > > > high-altitude "dirty" explosion that releases lots of gamma rays. > > > Those rays, as they "cut" the earth's magnetic field, generate an > > > EMP. Most of the energy in an EMP is likely very similar to > > > lightning. > > > > > > Yes, the USA has a lot of electronics. And an EMP could really > > > cause a mess. My (limited) analysis is that a major solar storm > > > is a greater risk than an EMP - but it typically much lower > > > frequency so will effect power distribution system but not have > > > much effect on our cars. > > > > > > > My questions are: > > > > > > > > Would my '97 Powerstroke 7.3 be functional after such an attack? > > > > > > My guess - probably. The electronics in that are fairly well > > > shielded and are pretty rugged. The engine control computer has > > > to have a fair amount of filtering on the inputs to keep the > > > automotive EM junk out. > > > > > > > If not, are there components I could keep on hand in a Faraday > > > > Cage to get it back in service? > > > > > > The engine control computer is what I would expect to be the most > > > vulnerable. The injectors are pretty tough and rather buried. > > > The alternator is pretty tough due to the current it has to handle. > > > > > > I guess I would probably put an engine control computer, one each > > > of the sensors, and the alternator's electronic voltage > > > regulator. If you care about the body computer, I guess one of > > > those too. > > > > > > And a cage may not be needed. No wires connected could be enough > > > to keep out the gremlins. However, if that's why I was keeping a > > > spare, I would sure keep it in an aluminum pouch, inside a > > > static-dissipating bag. > > > > > > But really it is _ALL_ speculation. The last actual EMP from a > > > weapon was a test done in USSR in 1962 or so and there was not > > > much but power to disrupt. It did do that. > > > > > > Here are some links from my researching this a number of years ago > > > http://www.futurescience.com/emp/test184.html > > > http://www.futurescience.com/emp.html > > > http://www.futurescience.com/emp/emp-protection.html > > > http://www.futurescience.com/emp/emp-grounding.html > > > http://www.futurescience.com/emp/emp-notes.html > > > http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1783/1 > > > http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1549/2 > > > http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1549/1 > > > http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1553/1 > > > > > > > > > http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1656/1 > > . > > > > I was travelling on an insterstate to a major city. About a hundred miles > > from there I was driving through the area of a medium sized town. > Probably > > 20 or 30 miles away on the other side of the town was a fairly large Air > > Force Base. > > Just before entering the most populated part of the town my engine quit. > > After probably 3 or 4 seconds it started again. This was during the late > > 1980s and I was driving a '73 Chrysler Volare. > > I didn't think much > > about it since the Volare was about 15 years old, and the small metal > > encased solid state switching unit that energized the coil which fired > the > > plugs would go bad periodically after acting funky for a while. I always > > carried a spare and it was easy to change, > > Before the next trip to the big city I put in a new switching unit from > > the dealer and expected no more trouble for a while, but the same thing > > happended at the same place with the engine again dying for 3 or 4 > seconds. > > Having read or heard something about experiments with "death rays" and > > such, I began to suspect that the air force base was beaming some sort of > > electromagnetic energy strong enough to freeze a solid state circuit > > encased in steel. > > The next trip to the big city I cut over behind the AFB to see if such a > > "beam" might be detected there; assuming that some sort of high powered > > asircraft landing system might be the cause. Sure
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Slightly OT: EMP Preparedness
Likely just radar. Military has some pretty high output radar in early warning systems and missile defense systems of about that era. Most likely, the magic ignition box was not shielded in any way from the microwave output of said radar... since it was a repeat event, and duration was short, about the sweep time of a large array radar antenna... On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 12:49 AM archer75--- via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 23:19:12 -0500 > fmiser via Mercedes wrote: > > > > Greg wrote: > > > > > Recent information has been coming out about the vulnerability > > > of the US to an EMP attack. > > > > As I understand, EMP (Electro Magnetic Pulse) is the result of a > > high-altitude "dirty" explosion that releases lots of gamma rays. > > Those rays, as they "cut" the earth's magnetic field, generate an > > EMP. Most of the energy in an EMP is likely very similar to > > lightning. > > > > Yes, the USA has a lot of electronics. And an EMP could really > > cause a mess. My (limited) analysis is that a major solar storm > > is a greater risk than an EMP - but it typically much lower > > frequency so will effect power distribution system but not have > > much effect on our cars. > > > > > My questions are: > > > > > > Would my '97 Powerstroke 7.3 be functional after such an attack? > > > > My guess - probably. The electronics in that are fairly well > > shielded and are pretty rugged. The engine control computer has > > to have a fair amount of filtering on the inputs to keep the > > automotive EM junk out. > > > > > If not, are there components I could keep on hand in a Faraday > > > Cage to get it back in service? > > > > The engine control computer is what I would expect to be the most > > vulnerable. The injectors are pretty tough and rather buried. > > The alternator is pretty tough due to the current it has to handle. > > > > I guess I would probably put an engine control computer, one each > > of the sensors, and the alternator's electronic voltage > > regulator. If you care about the body computer, I guess one of > > those too. > > > > And a cage may not be needed. No wires connected could be enough > > to keep out the gremlins. However, if that's why I was keeping a > > spare, I would sure keep it in an aluminum pouch, inside a > > static-dissipating bag. > > > > But really it is _ALL_ speculation. The last actual EMP from a > > weapon was a test done in USSR in 1962 or so and there was not > > much but power to disrupt. It did do that. > > > > Here are some links from my researching this a number of years ago > > http://www.futurescience.com/emp/test184.html > > http://www.futurescience.com/emp.html > > http://www.futurescience.com/emp/emp-protection.html > > http://www.futurescience.com/emp/emp-grounding.html > > http://www.futurescience.com/emp/emp-notes.html > > http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1783/1 > > http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1549/2 > > http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1549/1 > > http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1553/1 > > > > > > http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1656/1 > . > > I was travelling on an insterstate to a major city. About a hundred miles > from there I was driving through the area of a medium sized town. Probably > 20 or 30 miles away on the other side of the town was a fairly large Air > Force Base. > Just before entering the most populated part of the town my engine quit. > After probably 3 or 4 seconds it started again. This was during the late > 1980s and I was driving a '73 Chrysler Volare. > I didn't think much > about it since the Volare was about 15 years old, and the small metal > encased solid state switching unit that energized the coil which fired the > plugs would go bad periodically after acting funky for a while. I always > carried a spare and it was easy to change, > Before the next trip to the big city I put in a new switching unit from > the dealer and expected no more trouble for a while, but the same thing > happended at the same place with the engine again dying for 3 or 4 seconds. > Having read or heard something about experiments with "death rays" and > such, I began to suspect that the air force base was beaming some sort of > electromagnetic energy strong enough to freeze a solid state circuit > encased in steel. > The next trip to the big city I cut over behind the AFB to see if such a > "beam" might be detected there; assuming that some sort of high powered > asircraft landing system might be the cause. Sure enough, the same thing > happened. > Was it a landing system or was it experiments with "death rays"? I never > figured it out. > Gerry > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Slightly OT: EMP Preparedness
On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 23:19:12 -0500 fmiser via Mercedes wrote: > > Greg wrote: > > > Recent information has been coming out about the vulnerability > > of the US to an EMP attack. > > As I understand, EMP (Electro Magnetic Pulse) is the result of a > high-altitude "dirty" explosion that releases lots of gamma rays. > Those rays, as they "cut" the earth's magnetic field, generate an > EMP. Most of the energy in an EMP is likely very similar to > lightning. > > Yes, the USA has a lot of electronics. And an EMP could really > cause a mess. My (limited) analysis is that a major solar storm > is a greater risk than an EMP - but it typically much lower > frequency so will effect power distribution system but not have > much effect on our cars. > > > My questions are: > > > > Would my '97 Powerstroke 7.3 be functional after such an attack? > > My guess - probably. The electronics in that are fairly well > shielded and are pretty rugged. The engine control computer has > to have a fair amount of filtering on the inputs to keep the > automotive EM junk out. > > > If not, are there components I could keep on hand in a Faraday > > Cage to get it back in service? > > The engine control computer is what I would expect to be the most > vulnerable. The injectors are pretty tough and rather buried. > The alternator is pretty tough due to the current it has to handle. > > I guess I would probably put an engine control computer, one each > of the sensors, and the alternator's electronic voltage > regulator. If you care about the body computer, I guess one of > those too. > > And a cage may not be needed. No wires connected could be enough > to keep out the gremlins. However, if that's why I was keeping a > spare, I would sure keep it in an aluminum pouch, inside a > static-dissipating bag. > > But really it is _ALL_ speculation. The last actual EMP from a > weapon was a test done in USSR in 1962 or so and there was not > much but power to disrupt. It did do that. > > Here are some links from my researching this a number of years ago > http://www.futurescience.com/emp/test184.html > http://www.futurescience.com/emp.html > http://www.futurescience.com/emp/emp-protection.html > http://www.futurescience.com/emp/emp-grounding.html > http://www.futurescience.com/emp/emp-notes.html > http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1783/1 > http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1549/2 > http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1549/1 > http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1553/1 > > > http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1656/1 . I was travelling on an insterstate to a major city. About a hundred miles from there I was driving through the area of a medium sized town. Probably 20 or 30 miles away on the other side of the town was a fairly large Air Force Base. Just before entering the most populated part of the town my engine quit. After probably 3 or 4 seconds it started again. This was during the late 1980s and I was driving a '73 Chrysler Volare. I didn't think much about it since the Volare was about 15 years old, and the small metal encased solid state switching unit that energized the coil which fired the plugs would go bad periodically after acting funky for a while. I always carried a spare and it was easy to change, Before the next trip to the big city I put in a new switching unit from the dealer and expected no more trouble for a while, but the same thing happended at the same place with the engine again dying for 3 or 4 seconds. Having read or heard something about experiments with "death rays" and such, I began to suspect that the air force base was beaming some sort of electromagnetic energy strong enough to freeze a solid state circuit encased in steel. The next trip to the big city I cut over behind the AFB to see if such a "beam" might be detected there; assuming that some sort of high powered asircraft landing system might be the cause. Sure enough, the same thing happened. Was it a landing system or was it experiments with "death rays"? I never figured it out. Gerry --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Slightly OT: EMP Preparedness
> Greg wrote: > Recent information has been coming out about the vulnerability > of the US to an EMP attack. As I understand, EMP (Electro Magnetic Pulse) is the result of a high-altitude "dirty" explosion that releases lots of gamma rays. Those rays, as they "cut" the earth's magnetic field, generate an EMP. Most of the energy in an EMP is likely very similar to lightning. Yes, the USA has a lot of electronics. And an EMP could really cause a mess. My (limited) analysis is that a major solar storm is a greater risk than an EMP - but it typically much lower frequency so will effect power distribution system but not have much effect on our cars. > My questions are: > > Would my '97 Powerstroke 7.3 be functional after such an attack? My guess - probably. The electronics in that are fairly well shielded and are pretty rugged. The engine control computer has to have a fair amount of filtering on the inputs to keep the automotive EM junk out. > If not, are there components I could keep on hand in a Faraday > Cage to get it back in service? The engine control computer is what I would expect to be the most vulnerable. The injectors are pretty tough and rather buried. The alternator is pretty tough due to the current it has to handle. I guess I would probably put an engine control computer, one each of the sensors, and the alternator's electronic voltage regulator. If you care about the body computer, I guess one of those too. And a cage may not be needed. No wires connected could be enough to keep out the gremlins. However, if that's why I was keeping a spare, I would sure keep it in an aluminum pouch, inside a static-dissipating bag. But really it is _ALL_ speculation. The last actual EMP from a weapon was a test done in USSR in 1962 or so and there was not much but power to disrupt. It did do that. Here are some links from my researching this a number of years ago http://www.futurescience.com/emp/test184.html http://www.futurescience.com/emp.html http://www.futurescience.com/emp/emp-protection.html http://www.futurescience.com/emp/emp-grounding.html http://www.futurescience.com/emp/emp-notes.html http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1783/1 http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1549/2 http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1549/1 http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1553/1 http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1656/1 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Slightly OT: EMP Preparedness
If your truck is 1992 and up, speedo signal is taken from a magnetic sensor that is mounted on the top of the diff, it counts teeth on the ring gear to give speed signal, so, likely will lose speedo input... If you have a manual trans, non issue... if you have the C6 auto, or the E4OD auto, both take that speed signal to make computer shifts... and it will be fried by EMP so, again, vulnerable points. Post EMP, [a big event] a trip to FLAPS for parts would be useless, their computers will be down for life... My personal assessment would be, truck is killed, if it's post 1994 version. It may be severely wounded if it's pre 1994, as far as starter, alternator, and depending on the intensity of EMP, perhaps wiring bundles... But could quickly be made to run, especially if it's manual trans. On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > How much of the truck is non-electronic? In general, I worry about the > alternator and starter (no fuses in those circuits) on my diesels. I'm > pretty sure the battery would handle a short but big pulse of energy just > fine. Radio and instrument panel will be mostly dead (speedometer is > mechanical so that will be fine). > - > Max > Charleston SC > > > On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 1:39 PM Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Recent information has been coming out about the vulnerability of the US > > to an EMP attack. I recall the press touting the "failure" of a NORK > > hydrogen bomb test because it had a low yield. I knew at the time that > the > > test was no failure, but was about a very lightweight weapon that could > be > > carried by the barely adequate missile technology they had so that it > could > > be used as an EMP. > > > > > > > > My questions are: > > > > > > > > Would my '97 Powerstroke 7.3 be functional after such an attack? > > > > > > > > If not, are there components I could keep on hand in a Faraday Cage to > get > > it back in service? > > > > > > > > Greg > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Slightly OT: EMP Preparedness
How much of the truck is non-electronic? In general, I worry about the alternator and starter (no fuses in those circuits) on my diesels. I'm pretty sure the battery would handle a short but big pulse of energy just fine. Radio and instrument panel will be mostly dead (speedometer is mechanical so that will be fine). - Max Charleston SC On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 1:39 PM Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Recent information has been coming out about the vulnerability of the US > to an EMP attack. I recall the press touting the "failure" of a NORK > hydrogen bomb test because it had a low yield. I knew at the time that the > test was no failure, but was about a very lightweight weapon that could be > carried by the barely adequate missile technology they had so that it could > be used as an EMP. > > > > My questions are: > > > > Would my '97 Powerstroke 7.3 be functional after such an attack? > > > > If not, are there components I could keep on hand in a Faraday Cage to get > it back in service? > > > > Greg > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Slightly OT: EMP Preparedness
I'm a diesel Ford truck guy, presently own 5. So, I may have some qualifications to answer your question. Prior to 1994, the International engines Ford used were Indirect Injection, with Mechanical injection pumps. The only electrical device which is EMP sensitive is the fuel solenoid, mounted on top front of the mechanical IP.. It requires 12V to turn on fuel flow to the IP With that solenoid energized, you can roll the truck down a hill, or pull it with a mule [put it in second gear, get it rolling with clutch in.. pop clutch to rotate engine and it will start.] Post 1994, injection became "direct injection" with a computer controlling injectors to open and close fuel flow to each cylinder. That computer takes an electronic signal off another electrical device called "Cam Position Sensor" which tells the computer the cylinder position for fuel injection and timing... There are a number of other electric systems and sensors that "run the engine".. such as throttle position sensor... you foot runs an electronic sensor to select desired engine speed... not a throttle cable like pre 94 mechanical injection. So, if you have a post 94 Ford Diesel Power Stroke truck... and an EMP event, carry a good set of walking shoes or a bicycle... cause you won't be driving it home... and you'll need a bunch of electronic test equipment to determine what is fried...[which also got fried, most likely] On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 10:38 AM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Recent information has been coming out about the vulnerability of the US > to an EMP attack. I recall the press touting the "failure" of a NORK > hydrogen bomb test because it had a low yield. I knew at the time that the > test was no failure, but was about a very lightweight weapon that could be > carried by the barely adequate missile technology they had so that it could > be used as an EMP. > > > > My questions are: > > > > Would my '97 Powerstroke 7.3 be functional after such an attack? > > > > If not, are there components I could keep on hand in a Faraday Cage to get > it back in service? > > > > Greg > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] ***SPAM*** Slightly OT: EMP Preparedness
Recent information has been coming out about the vulnerability of the US to an EMP attack. I recall the press touting the "failure" of a NORK hydrogen bomb test because it had a low yield. I knew at the time that the test was no failure, but was about a very lightweight weapon that could be carried by the barely adequate missile technology they had so that it could be used as an EMP. My questions are: Would my '97 Powerstroke 7.3 be functional after such an attack? If not, are there components I could keep on hand in a Faraday Cage to get it back in service? Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The W208 (or is it C208?) was a W203 with some W210 features, right? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Clear coat starts peeling, driver and passenger leather seat starts to tear
What a truly and remarkably ugly little turd of a car... It is an embarrassment that Mercedes placed it badge on such an abortion. On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 8:26 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Somewhat but how much lower could it go for a daily driver rag top? > > On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 10:35 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Somewhat ambitious on the price > > > > > > https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/2000-mercedes-benz- > clk-320/6706494626.html > > > > -- > > --FT > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Clear coat starts peeling, driver and passenger leather seat starts to tear
Somewhat but how much lower could it go for a daily driver rag top? On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 10:35 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Somewhat ambitious on the price > > > https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/2000-mercedes-benz-clk-320/6706494626.html > > -- > --FT > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] ***SPAM*** Clear coat starts peeling, driver and passenger leather seat starts to tear
Somewhat ambitious on the price https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/2000-mercedes-benz-clk-320/6706494626.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
