Re: [MBZ] 240D Trailing Arms

[MG via Mercedes]

Craig the ones from a 126 will also fit. My 83 123 TD has a rear 
arm from a 126. Both the same thing. I think there was another 
one that also fit but can't recall it right now.


Manfred




 Craig via Mercedes
 wrote:


Car-part.com


I went to car-part.com to see if I could find any of the trailing arms
our '82 240D/3.0 needs for its rear suspension.

I could not search for any because I could not find what part name they
might call them.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks,


Craig



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Re: [MBZ] 240D Trailing Arms

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Tim Crone, Durham/Chapel Hill has "my" 350SDL.

Wilton

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On December 19, 2015 at 12:52 PM MG via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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Craig the ones from a 126 will also fit. My 83 123 TD has a rear 
arm from a 126. Both the same thing. I think there was another 
one that also fit but can't recall it right now.


I'm guessing 116 or 107. If I were in the market for used I'd be
looking for 126 arms rather than anything older. If 107 arms fit,
the later 107s would be a good source too. 
Hey, who bought Wilton's 1991 SD?


Mitch. 


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Re: [MBZ] 240D Trailing Arms

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On December 19, 2015 at 1:00 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> I'm guessing 116 or 107. If I were in the market for used I'd be
> looking for 126 arms rather than anything older. If 107 arms fit,
> the later 107s would be a good source too. 
> Hey, who bought Wilton's 1991 SD?


Oops, here's somebody who thinks it's only 1981-1984 W126 arms that directly
swap in,
says something about newer ones having a more advanced setup to deal with brake
dive
and squat, so you have to replace it all if you use the newer setup. 

http://forums.mercedesclub.org.uk/showthread.php?t=139303

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Re: [MBZ] 240D Trailing Arms

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

That could be true.

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> On Dec 19, 2015, at 12:06 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On December 19, 2015 at 1:00 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm guessing 116 or 107. If I were in the market for used I'd be
>> looking for 126 arms rather than anything older. If 107 arms fit,
>> the later 107s would be a good source too. 
>> Hey, who bought Wilton's 1991 SD?
> 
> 
> Oops, here's somebody who thinks it's only 1981-1984 W126 arms that directly
> swap in,
> says something about newer ones having a more advanced setup to deal with 
> brake
> dive
> and squat, so you have to replace it all if you use the newer setup. 
> 
> http://forums.mercedesclub.org.uk/showthread.php?t=139303
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Re: [MBZ] 240D Trailing Arms

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

And 116. I got tons of them here but that is the last thing that gets pulled 
when a car is getting ready for the crusher. If I pull one off before then it 
then becomes a non rolling hard to move parts car.

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> On Dec 19, 2015, at 12:21 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin  wrote:
> 
> 107 114 115 123 126 all the same
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 19, 2015, at 11:52 AM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> Craig the ones from a 126 will also fit. My 83 123 TD has a rear arm from a 
>> 126. Both the same thing. I think there was another one that also fit but 
>> can't recall it right now.
>> 
>> Manfred
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Craig via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
 Car-part.com
>>> I went to car-part.com to see if I could find any of the trailing arms
>>> our '82 240D/3.0 needs for its rear suspension.
>>> I could not search for any because I could not find what part name they
>>> might call them.
>>> Does anyone have any suggestions?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] 240D Trailing Arms

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

107 114 115 123 126 all the same

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> On Dec 19, 2015, at 11:52 AM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Craig the ones from a 126 will also fit. My 83 123 TD has a rear arm from a 
> 126. Both the same thing. I think there was another one that also fit but 
> can't recall it right now.
> 
> Manfred
> 
> 
> 
>> Craig via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>>> Car-part.com
>> I went to car-part.com to see if I could find any of the trailing arms
>> our '82 240D/3.0 needs for its rear suspension.
>> I could not search for any because I could not find what part name they
>> might call them.
>> Does anyone have any suggestions?
>> Thanks,
>> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

You know what I just remembered, I never did get around to putting in an auto 
antenna lock out. Back when I had a car with a working auto antenna I found 
that if it was very cold out or we'd had sleet or freezing rain the dang thing 
would get frozen down. No amount of siliconcarne spray would help it.
I figured the best solution would be to put a toggle switch at the antenna that 
would leave it up for the winter...

-Curt
 

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No ACC    That is a WAY POSITIVE

Crank Windows  That is a positive for many folks

Broken Auto antenna  So what?  Fix it or put on a $7 antenna.

But from an authorized stealer, i'd expect things to be fixed.



>No ACC
>Crank Windows
>Broken Auto antenna
>
>I'd pass.
>On Dec 18, 2015 12:52 PM, "WILTON via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>wrote:
>
>>  Yep, I noticed.
>>
>>  Wilton
>>
>>  - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" <
>>  mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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>>  Cc: "Curt Raymond" <curtlud...@yahoo.com>
>>  Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 12:13 PM
>>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh
>>
>>
>>  No underhood pics.
>>>  The detailer is no Mercedes Martha, didn't even pull the badges or bother
>>>  to clean around them...
>  >> -Curt
>  >>

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Re: [MBZ] 240D Trailing Arms

[MG via Mercedes]

yeah I wanted to put that setup into the TD but didn't know if 
the whole frame needed to be replaced or not. Anyway I had the 84 
sitting around so that was what went in.


Manfred




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Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2015 13:06:09 -0500 (EST)
From: Mitch Haley 



On December 19, 2015 at 1:00 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes
 wrote:

I'm guessing 116 or 107. If I were in the market for used I'd be
looking for 126 arms rather than anything older. If 107 arms fit,
the later 107s would be a good source too. 
Hey, who bought Wilton's 1991 SD?



Oops, here's somebody who thinks it's only 1981-1984 W126 arms that directly
swap in,
says something about newer ones having a more advanced setup to deal with brake
dive
and squat, so you have to replace it all if you use the newer setup. 


http://forums.mercedesclub.org.uk/showthread.php?t=139303



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Re: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

You know what I just remembered, I never did get around to putting 
in an auto antenna lock out. Back when I had a car with a working 
auto antenna I found that if it was very cold out or we'd had sleet 
or freezing rain the dang thing would get frozen down. No amount of 
siliconcarne spray would help it.
I figured the best solution would be to put a toggle switch at the 
antenna that would leave it up for the winter...


-Curt



Easy.  Put it up and pull the plug in the trunk.  It stays up.  In 
the spring, IF you feel llke it, you can plug it in again...or not.


I just leave mine up now

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Re: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Its not hard to put pencil plugs in the older cars. My '79 240D had 'em.
-Curt
 

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>Cracked tires?  Wonder why they didn't straighten hood star? 
>Leaking sun roof?
>
>Wilton

Its not hard to force a stealer to put on new tars.  I did when I was 19.

No MB has has a real star since 1995 or so.  That is 20 years ago.  I 
doubt anyone in the stealership has been there 20 years.  They simply 
don't know how to straighten the star.  They have never done that.


The only things I don't like about the car are :
#1 price
#2 too old.  82 or 83 are more desirable, but they sold few cars in 
1982.  I want pencil GPs.




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Re: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Cracked tires?  Wonder why they didn't straighten hood star?  Leaking sun 
roof?


Wilton

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Subject: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh



Son says they're asking 5500.

http://www.cabrioletmotors.com/mobile/mImagesAll.aspx?cmb=0%7C257372218%7C250381

Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

No underhood pics.
The detailer is no Mercedes Martha, didn't even pull the badges or bother to 
clean around them...
-Curt

 

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Son says they're asking 5500.

http://www.cabrioletmotors.com/mobile/mImagesAll.aspx?cmb=0%7C257372218%7C250381

Wilton


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[MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Son says they're asking 5500.

http://www.cabrioletmotors.com/mobile/mImagesAll.aspx?cmb=0%7C257372218%7C250381

Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Yep, I noticed.

Wilton

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No underhood pics.
The detailer is no Mercedes Martha, didn't even pull the badges or bother 
to clean around them...

-Curt



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Cc: WILTON <wilt...@nc.rr.com>
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Subject: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh

Son says they're asking 5500.

http://www.cabrioletmotors.com/mobile/mImagesAll.aspx?cmb=0%7C257372218%7C250381

Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Cracked tires?  Wonder why they didn't straighten hood star? 
Leaking sun roof?


Wilton


Its not hard to force a stealer to put on new tars.  I did when I was 19.

No MB has has a real star since 1995 or so.  That is 20 years ago.  I 
doubt anyone in the stealership has been there 20 years.  They simply 
don't know how to straighten the star.  They have never done that.



The only things I don't like about the car are :
#1 price
#2 too old.  82 or 83 are more desirable, but they sold few cars in 
1982.   I want pencil GPs.





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Re: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

How often do you replace glow plugs? They aren't terribly expensive and they're 
WAY easier to do on the older cars.
I like the older car to work on, less hoses and such cluttering up the place. 
If you're cruising around town I really like the York AC compressor too, it'll 
freeze you right out. My '83 might have had just a hint more power but neither 
was a racehorse.
 
-Curt


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 To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List 
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 Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 12:34 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh
   
I first did that 30 years ago.  They cost more than 0 250 201 039 
GPs, often by a factor of 2.  They don't last as long as the 0250 210 
039 GPs or equivalent Beru.

Dollars equal, I'll hold out for an 81, 82, 83  If you give me a 80 
or earlier, I'll take it.

>Its not hard to put pencil plugs in the older cars. My '79 240D had 'em.
>-Curt
>
>
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>  Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 12:10 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh
>  
>>Cracked tires?  Wonder why they didn't straighten hood star?
>>Leaking sun roof?
>>
>>Wilton
>
>Its not hard to force a stealer to put on new tars.  I did when I was 19.
>
>No MB has has a real star since 1995 or so.  That is 20 years ago.  I
>doubt anyone in the stealership has been there 20 years.  They simply
>don't know how to straighten the star.  They have never done that.
>
>
>The only things I don't like about the car are :
>#1 price
>#2 too old.  82 or 83 are more desirable, but they sold few cars in
>1982.  I want pencil GPs.


  
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Re: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

I first did that 30 years ago.  They cost more than 0 250 201 039 
GPs, often by a factor of 2.  They don't last as long as the 0250 210 
039 GPs or equivalent Beru.


Dollars equal, I'll hold out for an 81, 82, 83   If you give me a 80 
or earlier, I'll take it.



Its not hard to put pencil plugs in the older cars. My '79 240D had 'em.
-Curt


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Cracked tires?  Wonder why they didn't straighten hood star?
Leaking sun roof?

Wilton


Its not hard to force a stealer to put on new tars.  I did when I was 19.

No MB has has a real star since 1995 or so.  That is 20 years ago.  I
doubt anyone in the stealership has been there 20 years.  They simply
don't know how to straighten the star.  They have never done that.


The only things I don't like about the car are :
#1 price
#2 too old.  82 or 83 are more desirable, but they sold few cars in
1982.  I want pencil GPs.


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Re: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh

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No ACC
Crank Windows
Broken Auto antenna

I'd pass.
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> Yep, I noticed.
>
> Wilton
>
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>
>
> No underhood pics.
>> The detailer is no Mercedes Martha, didn't even pull the badges or bother
>> to clean around them...
>> -Curt
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> Son says they're asking 5500.
>>
>>
>> http://www.cabrioletmotors.com/mobile/mImagesAll.aspx?cmb=0%7C257372218%7C250381
>>
>> Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

No ACC and crank windows are the two BEST things about the car, 2 fewer things 
to go wrong.
The broken auto antenna is simplicity itself to replace. For that price they 
should have already replaced it.
-Curt
 

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No ACC
Crank Windows
Broken Auto antennaI'd pass.On Dec 18, 2015 12:52 PM, "WILTON via Mercedes" 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Yep, I noticed.

Wilton

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No underhood pics.
The detailer is no Mercedes Martha, didn't even pull the badges or bother to 
clean around them...
-Curt



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Subject: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh

Son says they're asking 5500.

http://www.cabrioletmotors.com/mobile/mImagesAll.aspx?cmb=0%7C257372218%7C250381

Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I love pw. Cranks are a PIA. ACC exemplifies superior engineering and is
relatively easy to maintain, even for me.
On Dec 18, 2015 1:36 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

> No ACC and crank windows are the two BEST things about the car, 2 fewer
> things to go wrong.
> The broken auto antenna is simplicity itself to replace. For that price
> they should have already replaced it.
> -Curt
>
>
>   From: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Cc: WILTON <wilt...@nc.rr.com>; Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>
>  Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 1:33 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh
>
> No ACC
> Crank Windows
> Broken Auto antennaI'd pass.On Dec 18, 2015 12:52 PM, "WILTON via
> Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> Yep, I noticed.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" <
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> Cc: "Curt Raymond" <curtlud...@yahoo.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 12:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh
>
>
>
> No underhood pics.
> The detailer is no Mercedes Martha, didn't even pull the badges or bother
> to clean around them...
> -Curt
>
>
>
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> Cc: WILTON <wilt...@nc.rr.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 11:29 AM
> Subject: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh
>
> Son says they're asking 5500.
>
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> http://www.cabrioletmotors.com/mobile/mImagesAll.aspx?cmb=0%7C257372218%7C250381
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Re: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Yes, I have had monovalve problems like everyone else.  Once they were
fixed, however, they didn't break again, like most Mercedes repairs.

I am not a big fan of the manual s/r in my  two 123 wagons because I have
two surgically repaired shoulders (one of each), but at least I don't have
to stop the car and get out of the driver's seat to adjust them, as would
be the case if the cars had crank windows.

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Darren Marshall via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> If anyone wants mine for less, holler :)
>
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> Co-Founder
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> > On Dec 18, 2015, at 12:54 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Haven't you had repeated monovalve failures leaving you cold? The only
> time either of my 240Ds left me cold it was a dead fan, I kicked it a
> couple times and it came back to life...
> > -Curt
> >
> >
> >
> >  From: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>; Curt Raymond <
> curtlud...@yahoo.com>
> > Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 1:46 PM
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh
> >
> > I love pw. Cranks are a PIA. ACC exemplifies superior engineering and is
> relatively easy to maintain, even for me.On Dec 18, 2015 1:36 PM, "Curt
> Raymond via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > No ACC and crank windows are the two BEST things about the car, 2 fewer
> things to go wrong.
> > The broken auto antenna is simplicity itself to replace. For that price
> they should have already replaced it.
> > -Curt
> >
> >
> >   From: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>
> >  To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > Cc: WILTON <wilt...@nc.rr.com>; Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>
> >  Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 1:33 PM
> >  Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh
> >
> > No ACC
> > Crank Windows
> > Broken Auto antennaI'd pass.On Dec 18, 2015 12:52 PM, "WILTON via
> Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yep, I noticed.
> >
> > Wilton
> >
> > - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" <
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> > Cc: "Curt Raymond" <curtlud...@yahoo.com>
> > Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 12:13 PM
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh
> >
> >
> >
> > No underhood pics.
> > The detailer is no Mercedes Martha, didn't even pull the badges or
> bother to clean around them...
> > -Curt
> >
> >
> >
> >  From: WILTON via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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> > Cc: WILTON <wilt...@nc.rr.com>
> > Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 11:29 AM
> > Subject: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh
> >
> > Son says they're asking 5500.
> >
> >
> http://www.cabrioletmotors.com/mobile/mImagesAll.aspx?cmb=0%7C257372218%7C250381
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh

[OK Don via Mercedes]

The sunroof is manual - those a re far superior to the electric ones in my
experience (if you HAVE to have a hole in the roof). I wonder if the
staining around the sunroof and headliner is from using contact cement to
re-attach the headliner?

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I love pw. Cranks are a PIA. ACC exemplifies superior engineering and is
> relatively easy to maintain, even for me.
> On Dec 18, 2015 1:36 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
>
> > No ACC and crank windows are the two BEST things about the car, 2 fewer
> > things to go wrong.
> > The broken auto antenna is simplicity itself to replace. For that price
> > they should have already replaced it.
> > -Curt
> >
> >
> >   From: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>
> >  To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > Cc: WILTON <wilt...@nc.rr.com>; Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>
> >  Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 1:33 PM
> >  Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh
> >
> > No ACC
> > Crank Windows
> > Broken Auto antennaI'd pass.On Dec 18, 2015 12:52 PM, "WILTON via
> > Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yep, I noticed.
> >
> > Wilton
> >
> > - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" <
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> > Cc: "Curt Raymond" <curtlud...@yahoo.com>
> > Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 12:13 PM
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh
> >
> >
> >
> > No underhood pics.
> > The detailer is no Mercedes Martha, didn't even pull the badges or bother
> > to clean around them...
> > -Curt
> >
> >
> >
> >  From: WILTON via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
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> > Cc: WILTON <wilt...@nc.rr.com>
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> > Subject: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh
> >
> > Son says they're asking 5500.
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.cabrioletmotors.com/mobile/mImagesAll.aspx?cmb=0%7C257372218%7C250381
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Re: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh

[OK Don via Mercedes]

ACC is WONDERFUL when it works - but is a real pain in the ass when it
doesn't.

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Haven't you had repeated monovalve failures leaving you cold? The only
> time either of my 240Ds left me cold it was a dead fan, I kicked it a
> couple times and it came back to life...
> -Curt
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh

[Darren Marshall via Mercedes]

If anyone wants mine for less, holler :)

Darren Marshall
Co-Founder

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> On Dec 18, 2015, at 12:54 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Haven't you had repeated monovalve failures leaving you cold? The only time 
> either of my 240Ds left me cold it was a dead fan, I kicked it a couple times 
> and it came back to life...
> -Curt
> 
> 
> 
>  From: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>
> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>; Curt Raymond 
> <curtlud...@yahoo.com> 
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 1:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh
> 
> I love pw. Cranks are a PIA. ACC exemplifies superior engineering and is 
> relatively easy to maintain, even for me.On Dec 18, 2015 1:36 PM, "Curt 
> Raymond via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> No ACC and crank windows are the two BEST things about the car, 2 fewer 
> things to go wrong.
> The broken auto antenna is simplicity itself to replace. For that price they 
> should have already replaced it.
> -Curt
> 
> 
>   From: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Cc: WILTON <wilt...@nc.rr.com>; Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>
>  Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 1:33 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh
> 
> No ACC
> Crank Windows
> Broken Auto antennaI'd pass.On Dec 18, 2015 12:52 PM, "WILTON via Mercedes" 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Yep, I noticed.
> 
> Wilton
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Cc: "Curt Raymond" <curtlud...@yahoo.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 12:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh
> 
> 
> 
> No underhood pics.
> The detailer is no Mercedes Martha, didn't even pull the badges or bother to 
> clean around them...
> -Curt
> 
> 
> 
>  From: WILTON via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> To: mercedes list <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Cc: WILTON <wilt...@nc.rr.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 11:29 AM
> Subject: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh
> 
> Son says they're asking 5500.
> 
> http://www.cabrioletmotors.com/mobile/mImagesAll.aspx?cmb=0%7C257372218%7C250381
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Haven't you had repeated monovalve failures leaving you cold? The only time 
either of my 240Ds left me cold it was a dead fan, I kicked it a couple times 
and it came back to life...
-Curt

 

  From: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>
 To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>; Curt Raymond 
<curtlud...@yahoo.com> 
 Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 1:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh
   
I love pw. Cranks are a PIA. ACC exemplifies superior engineering and is 
relatively easy to maintain, even for me.On Dec 18, 2015 1:36 PM, "Curt Raymond 
via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

No ACC and crank windows are the two BEST things about the car, 2 fewer things 
to go wrong.
The broken auto antenna is simplicity itself to replace. For that price they 
should have already replaced it.
-Curt


      From: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>
 To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Cc: WILTON <wilt...@nc.rr.com>; Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>
 Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 1:33 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh

No ACC
Crank Windows
Broken Auto antennaI'd pass.On Dec 18, 2015 12:52 PM, "WILTON via Mercedes" 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Yep, I noticed.

Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" 
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To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Cc: "Curt Raymond" <curtlud...@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh



No underhood pics.
The detailer is no Mercedes Martha, didn't even pull the badges or bother to 
clean around them...
-Curt



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To: mercedes list <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
Cc: WILTON <wilt...@nc.rr.com>
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 11:29 AM
Subject: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh

Son says they're asking 5500.

http://www.cabrioletmotors.com/mobile/mImagesAll.aspx?cmb=0%7C257372218%7C250381

Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh ACC

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

ACC is of NO value over manual controls, IF it runs.  It is actually 
of LESS value, because your options are very limited.


ACC is disastrously expensive to repair and a total PITA to try to 
diagnose.  BY FAR the most money I have spent to keep MBs on the road 
is for the fracking ACCMore than I spent for most cars i've ever 
owned.   Costs more than a 603 head.


ACC allows NO differentiation of left side/right side.

ACC does not allow you have the defrost on without the blower going 
FULL BLAST!  It is very annoying.   This is by far my greatest 
annoyance.  countless nights, and some days, I've had to drive with 
one hand while switching the DEF on, then the EC, back and forth for 
6 or 8 hours.   Manual controls let you run def with no blower (air 
circ from car moving) or blower at any speed.


My total cost for maintaining manual heating/defrost over 40 years is 
a dollar two for some o-rings and a little waterpump grease.


IMHO, the absolute  epitome of heater/Defrost is the 110/111/112/113 
series, and carried over into 114/115, but not the 116.


My ideal new MB if money was no object:  OM603 engine (yeah, the car 
would have to be shipped to lower slobovia) 5 speed trans with diff 
gearing near 3.0, manual driver's window and LR window.  Electric RF 
and RR windows, Rear window Def, Vacuum locks, ala 123,  A key switch 
and key lock doors, ala 123, tars on no less than 65 profile, manual 
sunroof,  DIN1 hole for a radio, manual seats, outside mirrors, both 
sides, 2 wipers.


Actually, except for ACC and a few electric things I don't want, an 
SDL  is pretty close.  123.123.10 is pretty close also.


I'd love to walk into the MB stealership and tell em I want a car 
built to my spec, then give em these specs, and show em the cash. 
They'd fall all over themselves until the factory tells em "no way." 
Then they'd throw me out.






ACC is WONDERFUL when it works - but is a real pain in the ass when it
doesn't.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


 Haven't you had repeated monovalve failures leaving you cold? The only
 time either of my 240Ds left me cold it was a dead fan, I kicked it a
 couple times and it came back to life...
 -Curt





--
OK Don

*"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
our people need it sorely on these accounts."* - Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] 240D Trailing Arms [was: Re: Throttle Body Harness Rewire]

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

On Thu, 17 Dec 2015 21:51:34 -0600 Curly McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:


 Car-part.com


I went to car-part.com to see if I could find any of the trailing arms
our '82 240D/3.0 needs for its rear suspension.

I could not search for any because I could not find what part name they
might call them.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks,


Craig


Just do a search for an axle or differential.  go the page with the 
lowest prices, then start calling them for LCAs.  THey give you the 
phone numbers.   The junkyard doesn't know you got their phone number 
from car-part, but it sorts the ones who want to sell parts, not put 
it on the shelf with a high price, and IF they have an axle or a 
Diff, they have a 123 that probably has LCAs.


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Re: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

In my 110 200D, I could reach across and roll the RR window down or 
up.  That and the driver's window were all I ever needed to stay 
comfortable with no a/C.



Yes, I have had monovalve problems like everyone else.  Once they were
fixed, however, they didn't break again, like most Mercedes repairs.

I am not a big fan of the manual s/r in my  two 123 wagons because I have
two surgically repaired shoulders (one of each), but at least I don't have
to stop the car and get out of the driver's seat to adjust them, as would
be the case if the cars had crank windows.

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Darren Marshall via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


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Re: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

No ACCThat is a WAY POSITIVE

Crank Windows   That is a positive for many folks

Broken Auto antenna   So what?  Fix it or put on a $7 antenna.

But from an authorized stealer, i'd expect things to be fixed.




No ACC
Crank Windows
Broken Auto antenna

I'd pass.
On Dec 18, 2015 12:52 PM, "WILTON via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:


 Yep, I noticed.

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 Cc: "Curt Raymond" <curtlud...@yahoo.com>
 Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 12:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh


 No underhood pics.

 The detailer is no Mercedes Martha, didn't even pull the badges or bother
 to clean around them...

 >> -Curt
 >>


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Re: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Yep, preferably, permanently sealed and welded.   Best, though, is to NEVER 
cut the hole.  ;<)


Wilton

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Cc: "OK Don" <okd...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh



IMHO, the ONLY way to use a sunroof is to leave it closed.

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:



I am not a big fan of the manual s/r in my  two 123 wagons because I have
two surgically repaired shoulders (one of each), but at least I don't 
have

to stop the car and get out of the driver's seat to adjust them, as would
be the case if the cars had crank windows.






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our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few 
who

learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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[MBZ] 240D Trailing Arms [was: Re: Throttle Body Harness Rewire]

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 17 Dec 2015 21:51:34 -0600 Curly McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Car-part.com

I went to car-part.com to see if I could find any of the trailing arms
our '82 240D/3.0 needs for its rear suspension.

I could not search for any because I could not find what part name they
might call them.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks,


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh

[OK Don via Mercedes]

IMHO, the ONLY way to use a sunroof is to leave it closed.

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> I am not a big fan of the manual s/r in my  two 123 wagons because I have
> two surgically repaired shoulders (one of each), but at least I don't have
> to stop the car and get out of the driver's seat to adjust them, as would
> be the case if the cars had crank windows.
>
>
>


-- 
OK Don

*“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] 240D Trailing Arms [was: Re: Throttle Body Harness Rewire]

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

control arm, lower, rear

On 12/18/2015 4:19 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Thu, 17 Dec 2015 21:51:34 -0600 Curly McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:


Car-part.com

I went to car-part.com to see if I could find any of the trailing arms
our '82 240D/3.0 needs for its rear suspension.

I could not search for any because I could not find what part name they
might call them.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks,


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Amen, brother!

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 4:37 PM, WILTON via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Yep, preferably, permanently sealed and welded.   Best, though, is to
> NEVER cut the hole.  ;<)
>
> Wilton
> --
>

OK Don

*“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] 240D Trailing Arms [was: Re: Throttle Body Harness Rewire]

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 16:40:04 -0600 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> control arm, lower, rear

Thank you. That does work.

Car-part.com shows me rear control arms for W126s, too. Is that correct?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 240D Trailing Arms [was: Re: Throttle Body Harness Rewire]

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Search eBay for - Mercedes w123 rear control arm‎ -. There are a couple, but 
not cheap. There is one in Rudyard MI, probably not too far from Mitch. 

You might try Silver Star in AZ.
Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] 240D Trailing Arms [was: Re: Throttle Body Harness Rewire]

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Rudyard is in the UP on I-75 'bout half way between St. Ignace and Sault 
Ste. Marie.  My daughter graduated from high school there in  '75.


Wilton

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Cc: "Rick Knoble" <rickkno...@hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 9:22 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Trailing Arms [was: Re: Throttle Body Harness 
Rewire]



Search eBay for - Mercedes w123 rear control arm‎ -. There are a couple, 
but not cheap. There is one in Rudyard MI, probably not too far from 
Mitch.


You might try Silver Star in AZ.
Rick
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Re: [MBZ] 240D Trailing Arms [was: Re: Throttle Body Harness Rewire]

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

craig.
Left Control Arm:- 126 350 18 05 replaced by 126 350 32 05
Right Control Arm:- 126 350 19 05 replaced by 126 350 33 05
Hope that helps.
Fred


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Subject: [MBZ] 240D Trailing Arms [was: Re:  Throttle Body Harness Rewire]

On Thu, 17 Dec 2015 21:51:34 -0600 Curly McLain via Mercedes
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Car-part.com

I went to car-part.com to see if I could find any of the trailing arms
our '82 240D/3.0 needs for its rear suspension.

I could not search for any because I could not find what part name they
might call them.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks,


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh ACC

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

ACC looks way cooler and has zebrano wood for US models.  End of story.

On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> ACC is of NO value over manual controls, IF it runs.  It is actually of
> LESS value, because your options are very limited.
>
> ACC is disastrously expensive to repair and a total PITA to try to
> diagnose.  BY FAR the most money I have spent to keep MBs on the road is
> for the fracking ACCMore than I spent for most cars i've ever owned.
>  Costs more than a 603 head.
>
> ACC allows NO differentiation of left side/right side.
>
> ACC does not allow you have the defrost on without the blower going FULL
> BLAST!  It is very annoying.   This is by far my greatest annoyance.
> countless nights, and some days, I've had to drive with one hand while
> switching the DEF on, then the EC, back and forth for 6 or 8 hours.
>  Manual controls let you run def with no blower (air circ from car moving)
> or blower at any speed.
>
> My total cost for maintaining manual heating/defrost over 40 years is a
> dollar two for some o-rings and a little waterpump grease.
>
> IMHO, the absolute  epitome of heater/Defrost is the 110/111/112/113
> series, and carried over into 114/115, but not the 116.
>
> My ideal new MB if money was no object:  OM603 engine (yeah, the car would
> have to be shipped to lower slobovia) 5 speed trans with diff gearing near
> 3.0, manual driver's window and LR window.  Electric RF and RR windows,
> Rear window Def, Vacuum locks, ala 123,  A key switch and key lock doors,
> ala 123, tars on no less than 65 profile, manual sunroof,  DIN1 hole for a
> radio, manual seats, outside mirrors, both sides, 2 wipers.
>
> Actually, except for ACC and a few electric things I don't want, an SDL
> is pretty close.  123.123.10 is pretty close also.
>
> I'd love to walk into the MB stealership and tell em I want a car built to
> my spec, then give em these specs, and show em the cash. They'd fall all
> over themselves until the factory tells em "no way." Then they'd throw me
> out.
>
>
>
>
> ACC is WONDERFUL when it works - but is a real pain in the ass when it
>> doesn't.
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Haven't you had repeated monovalve failures leaving you cold? The only
>>>  time either of my 240Ds left me cold it was a dead fan, I kicked it a
>>>  couple times and it came back to life...
>>>  -Curt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> OK Don
>>
>> *"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
>> our people need it sorely on these accounts."* - Mark Twain
>>
>> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
>> who
>> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
>> for themselves."
>>
>> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] 240D Cabriolet Motors, Raleigh

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> > Curly wrote:
> >
> > The only things I don't like about the car are :
> > #1 price
> > #2 too old.  82 or 83 are more desirable, but they sold
> > few cars in 1982.  I want pencil GPs.

> Curt wrote:
> 
> Its not hard to put pencil plugs in the older cars. My '79
> 240D had 'em.

Yup.  

But the engine with the parallel (pencil) glow plugs also has
higher output due to camshaft and injection pump changes.  So
converted series plug engine is not the same as a factory
parallel plug engine.

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[MBZ] 240D - bids START at $9999

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

That includes a couple dents.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-240d-four-speed-/272044419465?forcerrptr=true=item3f571c6989:g:Wx0AAOSwLzdWROvh=272044419465
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Re: [MBZ] 240D - bids START at $9999

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

++ for ambition

--R

On 11/18/15 12:51 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

That includes a couple dents.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-240d-four-speed-/272044419465?forcerrptr=true=item3f571c6989:g:Wx0AAOSwLzdWROvh=272044419465
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Re: [MBZ] 240D Crackhead?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

 On July 19, 2015 at 12:04 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 
 Just ask what would it take to make the car a concours winner?
 

That might have been a meaningful question with my S420, but with most of the
cars I've owned,
the answer would have been 'another car'. 

Mitch. 

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Re: [MBZ] 240D Crackhead?

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

If someone wanted a collectable car in really nice shape they might 
pay that kind of money for it, but I would be in the half-that-amount range


--R



On 7/18/15 6:42 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Looks pretty nice.  Are they being unrealistic?

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/5125359195.html 
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/5125359195.html

Dan
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[MBZ] 240D Crackhead?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Looks pretty nice.  Are they being unrealistic?

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/5125359195.html 
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/5125359195.html

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] 240D Crackhead?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Just ask what would it take to make the car a concours winner?

On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 7:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 It’s in the land of fruits and nuts, so that might be a part of it, too.

 Dan


  On Jul 18, 2015, at 6:59 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  It looks very nice but he smoked too much bad skunk weed
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Jul 18, 2015, at 5:42 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Looks pretty nice.  Are they being unrealistic?
 
  http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/5125359195.html 
 http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/5125359195.html
 
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Re: [MBZ] 240D Crackhead?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

It’s in the land of fruits and nuts, so that might be a part of it, too.

Dan


 On Jul 18, 2015, at 6:59 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 It looks very nice but he smoked too much bad skunk weed
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jul 18, 2015, at 5:42 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 Looks pretty nice.  Are they being unrealistic?
 
 http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/5125359195.html 
 http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/cto/5125359195.html
 
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Re: [MBZ] 240D HVac

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I'll look around for it the next coupla days.  I recall the ones I have 
are only about 2 long and the body is only maybe 1 dia.  One is still 
in the bag though, so will have the part #.


--R

On 5/9/15 6:41 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

Here is the par number:
123 800 31 75
Genuine Mercedes - A/C Vacuum Actuator; For Leg Room Flap
1 per car.
  It is round, about 2 dia and about 2 long.


I think I have a 123 vac pod that came with the 79 TD, it might still 
be in the glove box or in some parts bin, I am guessing it would 
either be the same or would work.  There are 3 of these in the TD, 
the PO who was a mechanic asserted that the pods were the reason the 
AC was not working and provided 2 of them new with the car, though 
after changing one (a miserable job up under the dash and behind the 
glove box) I determined that the cause was a leaky refrigerant system 
and never further messed with it.  If you want I can check to find it 
and if it would work I can send it along.  I might have kept the old 
one too, which was actually working but it would now be 36yo whereas 
the newer one would be more like 13 or 14, whenever we bought the car.


--R

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Re: [MBZ] 240D HVac

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

On Sat, 9 May 2015 13:34:21 -0500 Curly McLain via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


 Since most of the 240D system is manual, thankfully, I am trying to
 figure out what is missing if I just leave the HVAC vacuum system
 unhooked.  There is a flapper on the far right that is supposed to
 pull in and close the flap with vacuum.  The default leaves the far
 right dash vent open.  I don't see any problem with leaving that vent
 open.  I have not figured out what else the vacuum does.

 
  I have taken apart all I can without taking out the fronts seats and
  the console, but I still don't see other vacuum connections or lines.
  A green yellow tube runs under the windshield near the firewall just

 under the window to the vacuum pod at the far right.


Now that's odd. I have never heard of a vacuum pod on the right side of a
240D; all of the documentation I have makes no mention of it.

If I didn't have so many things to do, I'd go out and look at our car.

Craig



Broke out the books finally:

the diagram at 80-900 shows 3 vacuum components for 123.1, but it 
does not identify them or their function.


80.4-901/2 Diagram identifies and shows 3 vac components.
   104: vacuum rotary switch for recirculating air flap
   105:vacuum pull switch for leg room air flap
   106: vacuum element for circulating air flap
   107: vacuum element for leg room flap

104 and 105 appear to be the same unit according to the diagram. 
They are all related to air conditioning.  The air conditioning does 
not work, and I don't anticipate resurrecting air cond in the next 
few years.  Driving with the windows down works for me, as long as 
the heater works!


So I think I will put Humpty back together again, and let it be.  I 
have no appetite for a evapectomy size job.  I'll RTFM a little more 
to see if I find anything more.  It appears that this is the first 
time i opened the books since 2003, according to the envelope I used 
as a bookmark.  This car has only travelled 1000 mi in the last 5 
years, and not much more than 2000 in the last 12 years or so.


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Re: [MBZ] 240D HVac

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Here is the par number:
123 800 31 75
Genuine Mercedes - A/C Vacuum Actuator; For Leg Room Flap
1 per car.
  It is round, about 2 dia and about 2 long.


I think I have a 123 vac pod that came with the 79 TD, it might 
still be in the glove box or in some parts bin, I am guessing it 
would either be the same or would work.  There are 3 of these in the 
TD, the PO who was a mechanic asserted that the pods were the reason 
the AC was not working and provided 2 of them new with the car, 
though after changing one (a miserable job up under the dash and 
behind the glove box) I determined that the cause was a leaky 
refrigerant system and never further messed with it.  If you want I 
can check to find it and if it would work I can send it along.  I 
might have kept the old one too, which was actually working but it 
would now be 36yo whereas the newer one would be more like 13 or 14, 
whenever we bought the car.


--R

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Re: [MBZ] 240D HVac

[fmiser via Mercedes]

 Curly wrote:
 
 Since most of the 240D system is manual, thankfully, I am trying
 to figure out what is missing if I just leave the HVAC vacuum
 system unhooked.

Vacuum is used in the manual HVAC system?  

I guess it's been too long since I had the dash all torn out - but
I don't remember any vacuum for the HVAC...

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Re: [MBZ] 240D HVac

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I think I have a 123 vac pod that came with the 79 TD, it might still be 
in the glove box or in some parts bin, I am guessing it would either be 
the same or would work.  There are 3 of these in the TD, the PO who was 
a mechanic asserted that the pods were the reason the AC was not working 
and provided 2 of them new with the car, though after changing one (a 
miserable job up under the dash and behind the glove box) I determined 
that the cause was a leaky refrigerant system and never further messed 
with it.  If you want I can check to find it and if it would work I can 
send it along.  I might have kept the old one too, which was actually 
working but it would now be 36yo whereas the newer one would be more 
like 13 or 14, whenever we bought the car.


--R



On 5/9/15 4:46 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

On Sat, 9 May 2015 13:34:21 -0500 Curly McLain via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


 Since most of the 240D system is manual, thankfully, I am trying to
 figure out what is missing if I just leave the HVAC vacuum system
 unhooked.  There is a flapper on the far right that is supposed to
 pull in and close the flap with vacuum.  The default leaves the far
 right dash vent open.  I don't see any problem with leaving that vent
 open.  I have not figured out what else the vacuum does.

 
  I have taken apart all I can without taking out the fronts seats and
  the console, but I still don't see other vacuum connections or lines.
  A green yellow tube runs under the windshield near the firewall just

 under the window to the vacuum pod at the far right.


Now that's odd. I have never heard of a vacuum pod on the right side 
of a

240D; all of the documentation I have makes no mention of it.

If I didn't have so many things to do, I'd go out and look at our car.


Craig


Got it!

I finally figured out I had a T connector i was using with the (HF Not 
mity) vac pump that was leaking, giving me 0 vacuum on every test.  
After I changed that the electric/vacuum switch by 107 was good, as 
was the rest of the line back to the start in front of the firewall.  
The number 107: vacuum element for leg room flap holds no vacuum, so 
that is the culprit.  Guess I'll ask Tom Hanson at the classic Center 
the cost of that and the door lock pod.


BTW, the book does not show the vacuum/electric switch for 107. Both 
are located in front and to the right of the glove box.


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Re: [MBZ] 240D HVac

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

On Sat, 9 May 2015 13:34:21 -0500 Curly McLain via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


 Since most of the 240D system is manual, thankfully, I am trying to
 figure out what is missing if I just leave the HVAC vacuum system
 unhooked.  There is a flapper on the far right that is supposed to
 pull in and close the flap with vacuum.  The default leaves the far
 right dash vent open.  I don't see any problem with leaving that vent
 open.  I have not figured out what else the vacuum does.

 
  I have taken apart all I can without taking out the fronts seats and
  the console, but I still don't see other vacuum connections or lines.
  A green yellow tube runs under the windshield near the firewall just

 under the window to the vacuum pod at the far right.


Now that's odd. I have never heard of a vacuum pod on the right side of a
240D; all of the documentation I have makes no mention of it.

If I didn't have so many things to do, I'd go out and look at our car.


Craig


Got it!

I finally figured out I had a T connector i was using with the (HF 
Not mity) vac pump that was leaking, giving me 0 vacuum on every 
test.  After I changed that the electric/vacuum switch by 107 was 
good, as was the rest of the line back to the start in front of the 
firewall.  The number 107: vacuum element for leg room flap holds 
no vacuum, so that is the culprit.  Guess I'll ask Tom Hanson at the 
classic Center the cost of that and the door lock pod.


BTW, the book does not show the vacuum/electric switch for 107.  Both 
are located in front and to the right of the glove box.


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Re: [MBZ] 240D HVac

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 9 May 2015 11:27:13 -0500 Curly McLain via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I have the underdash panels off, and I don't see where the vacuum 
 line goes under the dash.  I found a good illustrated How to for the 
 ACCII system, but don't see one for the 240D manual heater.  Anyone 
 BTDT?
 
 The HVAC vacuum hose in front of the firewall is a complete open 
 So far, I have not found the vacuum line under the dash.

When I was working on our '82 240D/3.0, I had no trouble finding the
vacuum lines, so I don't remember exactly where they come through. As I
recall it's higher inside the passenger compartment under the dash than
you would expect. Try following the vacuum lines to the ignition switch
from the ignition switch back to the firewall.


Craig

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[MBZ] 240D HVac

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

I have the underdash panels off, and I don't see where the vacuum 
line goes under the dash.  I found a good illustrated How to for the 
ACCII system, but don't see one for the 240D manual heater.  Anyone 
BTDT?


The HVAC vacuum hose in front of the firewall is a complete open 
So far, I have not found the vacuum line under the dash.


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Re: [MBZ] 240D HVac

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Since most of the 240D system is manual, thankfully, I am trying to 
figure out what is missing if I just leave the HVAC vacuum system 
unhooked.  There is a flapper on the far right that is supposed to 
pull in and close the flap with vacuum.  The default leaves the far 
right dash vent open.  I don't see any problem with leaving that vent 
open.  I have not figured out what else the vacuum does.


I have taken apart all I can without taking out the fronts seats and 
the console, but I still don't see other vacuum connections or lines. 
A green yellow tube runs under the windshield near the firewall just 
under the window to the vacuum pod at the far right.




On Sat, 9 May 2015 11:27:13 -0500 Curly McLain via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


 I have the underdash panels off, and I don't see where the vacuum
 line goes under the dash.  I found a good illustrated How to for the
 ACCII system, but don't see one for the 240D manual heater.  Anyone
 BTDT?

 The HVAC vacuum hose in front of the firewall is a complete open
 So far, I have not found the vacuum line under the dash.


When I was working on our '82 240D/3.0, I had no trouble finding the
vacuum lines, so I don't remember exactly where they come through. As I
recall it's higher inside the passenger compartment under the dash than
you would expect. Try following the vacuum lines to the ignition switch
from the ignition switch back to the firewall.

Craig


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Re: [MBZ] 240D HVac

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 9 May 2015 13:34:21 -0500 Curly McLain via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Since most of the 240D system is manual, thankfully, I am trying to 
 figure out what is missing if I just leave the HVAC vacuum system 
 unhooked.  There is a flapper on the far right that is supposed to 
 pull in and close the flap with vacuum.  The default leaves the far 
 right dash vent open.  I don't see any problem with leaving that vent 
 open.  I have not figured out what else the vacuum does.
 
 I have taken apart all I can without taking out the fronts seats and 
 the console, but I still don't see other vacuum connections or lines. 
 A green yellow tube runs under the windshield near the firewall just 
 under the window to the vacuum pod at the far right.

Now that's odd. I have never heard of a vacuum pod on the right side of a
240D; all of the documentation I have makes no mention of it.

If I didn't have so many things to do, I'd go out and look at our car.


Craig

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Present: '82 240D/3.0   Bluebell   267 kmi (Still need to fix leaking
oil pressure gauge and do
something about the failed
hood paint)
 '89 Chevrolet G20 Beauville Van (affectionately dubbed the BRV,
 the Big Red Van)
Past:'95 E320   Sebastian  135 kmi   RIP
 '94 E420   Oskar  127 kmi   RIP
 '86 190E/2.3
 '72 220/8
 '64 190Dc  Emma
 '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi
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[MBZ] 240d overheating

[Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes]

Folks

about the overheating 240d

did you ever do a citric acid cleanse?

they all have a lot of crud in the cooling system

then i'd replace radiator and then water pump assuming the thermostat tests 
good in boiling water
thanks,

xx rick
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Re: [MBZ] 240d overheating

[dseretakis--- via Mercedes]

Citric acid flush was not done. 
The radiator is good.

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 On Feb 19, 2015, at 3:23 PM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Folks
 
 about the overheating 240d
 
 did you ever do a citric acid cleanse?
 
 they all have a lot of crud in the cooling system
 
 then i'd replace radiator and then water pump assuming the thermostat tests 
 good in boiling water
 thanks,
 
 xx rick
 Rick Hawkins
 
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Re: [MBZ] 240d overheating

[Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes]

well that's the simplest and cheapest thing … i would have done that first and 
would do that now if the problem is not solved


thanks,

xx rick
Rick Hawkins


On Feb 19, 2015, at 4:53 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Citric acid flush was not done. 
 The radiator is good.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Feb 19, 2015, at 3:23 PM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Folks
 
 about the overheating 240d
 
 did you ever do a citric acid cleanse?
 
 they all have a lot of crud in the cooling system
 
 then i'd replace radiator and then water pump assuming the thermostat tests 
 good in boiling water
 thanks,
 
 xx rick
 Rick Hawkins
 
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Re: [MBZ] 240D intrigues me!

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Or, if the oil cooler might be plugged up?

RB

On 13/02/2015 5:28 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
Have you checked to see if the oil cooler has been bypassed, or if 
someone has put cardboard in front of it?


Peter

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[MBZ] 240D intrigues me!

[dseretakis--- via Mercedes]

So as you all know, I replaced that bitch of a hose under the thermostat 
housing a few days ago. I drove around town for a few days, no leaks from the 
new hose, no overheating. There was however a small amount of coolant loss from 
the rubber o ring that goes around the tstat and keeps the housing cover from 
leaking. I didn't make anything of it as that tstat has been in and out so many 
times that the seal is probably compressed.

Anyway, I need to get this car to MA where it's registered so that I can have 
it inspected-already received a fine in the mail.  So I head off to Boston 
today from Brunswick, Maine-roughly a 140 mile trip.

The car performed flawlessly, cruising at 65-70 mph, smooth, powerful, temp 
holding steady even in some stop and go traffic towards the tail end of the 
trip. I was so proud of the little 240D, when literally, as I pull into my 
driveway the temp gauge starts rising! So weird. I pop the hood, the upper rad 
hoses are super firm, coolant is dripping from rad overflow tube but my newly 
replaced hose is not leaking.

Well back to square one!


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Re: [MBZ] 240D intrigues me!

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Have you checked to see if the oil cooler has been bypassed, or if  
someone has put cardboard in front of it?


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 240D intrigues me!

[dseretakis--- via Mercedes]

It's not bypassed or covered up. Would a plugged up oil cooler cause coolant 
temp to rise?

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 Or, if the oil cooler might be plugged up?
 
 RB
 
 On 13/02/2015 5:28 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
 Have you checked to see if the oil cooler has been bypassed, or if someone 
 has put cardboard in front of it?
 
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Re: [MBZ] 240D intrigues me!

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Oil cooler was replaced with an NOS one maybe 3 years ago.

Curt

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Re: [MBZ] 240D intrigues me!

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 13/02/2015 5:14 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes wrote:

So as you all know, I replaced that bitch of a hose under the thermostat 
housing a few days ago. I drove around town for a few days, no leaks from the 
new hose, no overheating. There was however a small amount of coolant loss from 
the rubber o ring that goes around the tstat and keeps the housing cover from 
leaking. I didn't make anything of it as that tstat has been in and out so many 
times that the seal is probably compressed.

Anyway, I need to get this car to MA where it's registered so that I can have 
it inspected-already received a fine in the mail.  So I head off to Boston 
today from Brunswick, Maine-roughly a 140 mile trip.

The car performed flawlessly, cruising at 65-70 mph, smooth, powerful, temp 
holding steady even in some stop and go traffic towards the tail end of the 
trip. I was so proud of the little 240D, when literally, as I pull into my 
driveway the temp gauge starts rising! So weird. I pop the hood, the upper rad 
hoses are super firm, coolant is dripping from rad overflow tube but my newly 
replaced hose is not leaking.

Well back to square one!



Once it cools enough that you can open the rad cap - it will be 
interesting to know how much coolant it has lost.

Could it have leaked enough to cause an issue?

Do you have  a pressure test rig to pressurize the system and see if it 
holds?


RB

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Re: [MBZ] 240D 3 for the price of 1

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

I would think this could actually be a good deal.  Someone with the time, 
space, and skill could spend some sweat equity and they would come up with two 
240D's and a parts car.  

Don 

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Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 5:43 PM
To: Donald Snook; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D 3 for the price of 1

On 03/02/2015 5:09 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
 https://springfield.craigslist.org/cto/4859085777.html

 Don Snook


Knock them down to $500 each and Kleb will take them home.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] 240D 3 for the price of 1

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

Southwest of Springfield, Missouri (my hometown) between Republic and Aurora.  

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Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 9:59 PM
To: Donald Snook; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D 3 for the price of 1

Where is  Marionville?


Michael E. Esh
231 286 2344


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 https://springfield.craigslist.org/cto/4859085777.html
 
 Don Snook
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Re: [MBZ] 240D 3 for the price of 1

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

I thought it was $2000 for all them.  

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From: G Mann [mailto:g2ma...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 10:55 PM
To: Craig; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D 3 for the price of 1

Marionville is a small town outside of Springfield, Mo.

$3,000 for the set seems a bit much, since none run, one is missing an engine.

slight rust ran when parked AC blows cold ;))

OTOH, project cars of substance... perhaps..

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 On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 22:59:20 -0500 Michael Esh via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  Where is  Marionville?
 
 
  Michael E. Esh
  231 286 2344

 If you click the reply button, you get a drop-down which lists the 
 phone number as 4178399367 [417-839-9367]. The 417 area code is

417  MO  -6  SW Missouri: Springfield


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Re: [MBZ] 240D 3 for the price of 1

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On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 22:59:20 -0500 Michael Esh via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Where is  Marionville?
 
 
 Michael E. Esh
 231 286 2344

If you click the reply button, you get a drop-down which lists the
phone number as 4178399367 [417-839-9367]. The 417 area code is

   417  MO  -6  SW Missouri: Springfield


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Re: [MBZ] 240D 3 for the price of 1

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Marionville is a small town outside of Springfield, Mo.

$3,000 for the set seems a bit much, since none run, one is missing an
engine.

slight rust ran when parked AC blows cold ;))

OTOH, project cars of substance... perhaps..

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 On Tue, 03 Feb 2015 22:59:20 -0500 Michael Esh via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  Where is  Marionville?
 
 
  Michael E. Esh
  231 286 2344

 If you click the reply button, you get a drop-down which lists the
 phone number as 4178399367 [417-839-9367]. The 417 area code is

417  MO  -6  SW Missouri: Springfield


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Re: [MBZ] 240D 3 for the price of 1

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He won't separate the cars because they are litter mates.

On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 6:42 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
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 On 03/02/2015 5:09 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:

 https://springfield.craigslist.org/cto/4859085777.html

 Don Snook


 Knock them down to $500 each and Kleb will take them home.

 RB


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Re: [MBZ] 240D 3 for the price of 1

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Where is  Marionville?


Michael E. Esh
231 286 2344


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 https://springfield.craigslist.org/cto/4859085777.html
 
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Re: [MBZ] 240D 3 for the price of 1

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On 03/02/2015 5:09 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:

https://springfield.craigslist.org/cto/4859085777.html

Don Snook



Knock them down to $500 each and Kleb will take them home.

RB

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[MBZ] 240D 3 for the price of 1

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https://springfield.craigslist.org/cto/4859085777.html

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Re: [MBZ] 240D on CL and a pin stripe

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Yes. It's an interesting color for sure. 

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 On Feb 1, 2015, at 3:40 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 Same brown interior as Dimitri's-formerly Curt's formerly my  240D. Has
 white exterior
 On Feb 1, 2015 12:07 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 As I mentioned earlier, here is my 240D up on CL:
 http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4872031344.html
 
 And in related news, some photos of the pin stripe I had done on the car:
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/jaimekop/16416604751/
 and
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/jaimekop/15798313533/
 
 I found the stripper who did these cars in the early 80s for the local MB
 dealers.  I've owned several cars with his work, as they're very common
 around here.  I had him do this car, as I really like the look.  He
 matches
 his style of 30 years ago exactly, which, of course, is important to me.
 
 Jaime
 
 
 Jaime, that is a really unusual interior color.  Do you know what the
 number and common name is for it?
 
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Re: [MBZ] 240D on CL and a pin stripe

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Funny how pin striping is making a comeback. Those hipster dudes at Mercedes 
Motoring are really into preserving them as well. 



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 I found the stripper who did these cars
 
 Does he work in bow tie and G-string?  :-)
 
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[MBZ] 240D on CL and a pin stripe

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

As I mentioned earlier, here is my 240D up on CL:
http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4872031344.html

And in related news, some photos of the pin stripe I had done on the car:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jaimekop/16416604751/
and
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jaimekop/15798313533/

I found the stripper who did these cars in the early 80s for the local MB
dealers.  I've owned several cars with his work, as they're very common
around here.  I had him do this car, as I really like the look.  He matches
his style of 30 years ago exactly, which, of course, is important to me.

Jaime


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Re: [MBZ] 240D on CL and a pin stripe

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I found the stripper who did these cars


Does he work in bow tie and G-string?  :-)

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Re: [MBZ] 240D on CL and a pin stripe

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You are on crack. The paint does not even match. 

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 On Feb 1, 2015, at 8:50 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 As I mentioned earlier, here is my 240D up on CL:
 http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4872031344.html
 
 And in related news, some photos of the pin stripe I had done on the car:
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/jaimekop/16416604751/
 and
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/jaimekop/15798313533/
 
 I found the stripper who did these cars in the early 80s for the local MB
 dealers.  I've owned several cars with his work, as they're very common
 around here.  I had him do this car, as I really like the look.  He matches
 his style of 30 years ago exactly, which, of course, is important to me.
 
 Jaime
 
 
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 http://www.jaimekop.com/
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Re: [MBZ] 240D on CL and a pin stripe

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

As I mentioned earlier, here is my 240D up on CL:
http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4872031344.html

And in related news, some photos of the pin stripe I had done on the car:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jaimekop/16416604751/
and
https://www.flickr.com/photos/jaimekop/15798313533/

I found the stripper who did these cars in the early 80s for the local MB
dealers.  I've owned several cars with his work, as they're very common
around here.  I had him do this car, as I really like the look.  He matches
his style of 30 years ago exactly, which, of course, is important to me.

Jaime



Jaime, that is a really unusual interior color.  Do you know what the 
number and common name is for it?


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Re: [MBZ] 240D on CL and a pin stripe

[Jon Agne via Mercedes]

Congratulations, and good job!  It’s always nice to know there are people price 
realistically.

Jon


 On Feb 1, 2015, at 4:00 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 And... its sold!
 
 On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 As I mentioned earlier, here is my 240D up on CL:
 http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4872031344.html
 
 And in related news, some photos of the pin stripe I had done on the car:
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/jaimekop/16416604751/
 and
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/jaimekop/15798313533/
 
 I found the stripper who did these cars in the early 80s for the local MB
 dealers.  I've owned several cars with his work, as they're very common
 around here.  I had him do this car, as I really like the look.  He matches
 his style of 30 years ago exactly, which, of course, is important to me.
 
 Jaime
 
 
 --
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 http://www.jaimekop.com/
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 240D on CL and a pin stripe

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Same brown interior as Dimitri's-formerly Curt's formerly my  240D. Has
white exterior
 On Feb 1, 2015 12:07 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 As I mentioned earlier, here is my 240D up on CL:
 http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4872031344.html

 And in related news, some photos of the pin stripe I had done on the car:
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/jaimekop/16416604751/
 and
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/jaimekop/15798313533/

 I found the stripper who did these cars in the early 80s for the local MB
 dealers.  I've owned several cars with his work, as they're very common
 around here.  I had him do this car, as I really like the look.  He
 matches
 his style of 30 years ago exactly, which, of course, is important to me.

 Jaime



 Jaime, that is a really unusual interior color.  Do you know what the
 number and common name is for it?

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[MBZ] 240D of toasters. WAS:The sweet taste of success

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

Toastmaster history.  More MA than toasters, but there is some info 
there about the toasters and toaster ovens.  I never knew toastmaster 
made the first popup toaster.  Probably made the first toaster oven 
too.  They were very popular in the early 70s. (pre-microwave oven)


http://www.toaster.org/tmaster_history.html

Toaster.org has a virtual museum that is interesting.

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Re: [MBZ] 240D of toasters. WAS:The sweet taste of success

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

They give good speeches too

--R


On 1/18/15 4:37 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Toastmaster history.  More MA than toasters, but there is some info 
there about the toasters and toaster ovens.  I never knew toastmaster 
made the first popup toaster.  Probably made the first toaster oven 
too.  They were very popular in the early 70s. (pre-microwave oven)


http://www.toaster.org/tmaster_history.html

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[MBZ] 240D rust repair (yes again)

[dseretakis--- via Mercedes]

Over the past month I've tackled some major rust in the front passenger side 
wheel well/shock mount rust.

Check it out here:

http://www.mbca.org/forum/2014-10-28/w123s-are-tough-rust-repair

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Re: [MBZ] 240D rust repair (yes again)

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I was wondering if that was you...

Nice work!

Max Dillon,
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[MBZ] 240D moves on to a new home.

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Well Dimitri has officially taken delivery of my 78 240D which had formerly 
been Dwight's. I hauled it up with my Dodge which preformed flawlessly.

We're about to celebrate with lunch which we're riding to in Jon's lovely 
250(?)S.

Curt
Seems like I should know the model of the car I'm in. Its a lovely car though...

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Re: [MBZ] 240D moves on to a new home.

[dseretakis--- via Mercedes]

Thanks Curt!
I need to invest a few days now to get this beauty driveable. Do I take the 
head off and tap out the head bolt holes or do the redneck thing and put a 
washer under the head bolts. Hmmm.

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 On Nov 5, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 Well Dimitri has officially taken delivery of my 78 240D which had formerly 
 been Dwight's. I hauled it up with my Dodge which preformed flawlessly.
 
 We're about to celebrate with lunch which we're riding to in Jon's lovely 
 250(?)S.
 
 Curt
 Seems like I should know the model of the car I'm in. Its a lovely car 
 though...
 
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Re: [MBZ] 240D moves on to a new home.

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Be kind to the Southern Princess as we called her.
On Nov 5, 2014 5:25 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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 Thanks Curt!
 I need to invest a few days now to get this beauty driveable. Do I take
 the head off and tap out the head bolt holes or do the redneck thing and
 put a washer under the head bolts. Hmmm.

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  On Nov 5, 2014, at 2:59 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Well Dimitri has officially taken delivery of my 78 240D which had
 formerly been Dwight's. I hauled it up with my Dodge which preformed
 flawlessly.
 
  We're about to celebrate with lunch which we're riding to in Jon's
 lovely 250(?)S.
 
  Curt
  Seems like I should know the model of the car I'm in. Its a lovely car
 though...
 
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[MBZ] 240D exhaust

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

The 240D got loud today.  Discovered the patch pipe just to the rear 
of the bend in the downpipe was cracking at the weld.   Further 
investigation led to a thumb sized hole on the inside.


Well, it needs a new pipe...Same as it did maybe 15 years ago.

I took two hose clamps and a piece of heavy flashing that I have been 
tempted to throw out several times, but saved for some reason.  Put 
the car up on ramps, crawled under, wrapped the flashing around, put 
the hose clamps on it and tightened up the clamps.


Diesel Muffler bandaid 101.  It will probably last for 5 years, then 
I will replace the flashing again.  That should be good until 2024.


123 Diesels are great, but I love the OM603 too!


Oh, By the way, 15 years ago, I didn't buy a new pipe.  That is when 
the patch pipe was welded in.



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Re: [MBZ] 240D exhaust

[WILTON via Mercedes]

ATTABOY!

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 10:27 PM
Subject: [MBZ] 240D exhaust


The 240D got loud today.  Discovered the patch pipe just to the rear of 
the bend in the downpipe was cracking at the weld.   Further investigation 
led to a thumb sized hole on the inside.


Well, it needs a new pipe...Same as it did maybe 15 years ago.

I took two hose clamps and a piece of heavy flashing that I have been 
tempted to throw out several times, but saved for some reason.  Put the 
car up on ramps, crawled under, wrapped the flashing around, put the hose 
clamps on it and tightened up the clamps.


Diesel Muffler bandaid 101.  It will probably last for 5 years, then I 
will replace the flashing again.  That should be good until 2024.


123 Diesels are great, but I love the OM603 too!


Oh, By the way, 15 years ago, I didn't buy a new pipe.  That is when the 
patch pipe was welded in.



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Re: [MBZ] 240D ?

[Dieselhead]

Dieselhead wrote:

 Anyone want to sell a good 81-83 OM616 engine?


Your mao-616 still runs?
mao


Ja, but I don't want to part with it or the car it is in.

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Re: [MBZ] 240D ?

[Craig]

On Mon, 24 Mar 2014 20:40:33 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 Anyone want to sell a good 81-83 OM616 engine?
 
 Or anyone want to buy an 83 240D in need of engine work?   In OK.

I have the OM616 from our '82 240D, bolted to a manual transmission.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 240D ?

[Mountain Man]

Craig wrote:
 I have the OM616 from our '82 240D, bolted to a manual transmission.


Road trip, Dieselhead?
I could visit family in the neighborhood and drive this puppy back to
you for you to use.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] 240D ?

[Fmiser]

 Dieselhead wrote:
 
 Anyone want to sell a good 81-83 OM616 engine?
 
 Or anyone want to buy an 83 240D in need of engine work?   In OK.

Hmm.  I'm highly curious.

The 240 I currently have on the road is running well but the body
metal keeps getting thinner.  Soon I'll need to do something...

Price?

Where in OK?

How quickly does he want to get rid of it?

--   Philip

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[MBZ] 240D ?

[Dieselhead]

Anyone want to sell a good 81-83 OM616 engine?

Or anyone want to buy an 83 240D in need of engine work?   In OK.

From what I can tell, it sounds like one of the oil cooler hoses 
broke and pumped the oil out.  It may be repairable.  Owner pulled 
over quickly when OP went down and shut down engine.


Not mine, etc. etc.

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Re: [MBZ] 240D ?

[Max Dillon]

Which transmission type?
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Charleston, SC

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Re: [MBZ] 240D ?

[Dieselhead]

Which transmission type?
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Max Dillon
Charleston, SC


Auto trans

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Re: [MBZ] 240D ?

[Mountain Man]

Dieselhead wrote:
 Anyone want to sell a good 81-83 OM616 engine?

Your mao-616 still runs?
mao

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