[MOSAIC] differentiation

2010-12-14 Thread rr1981

 I teach fourth grade and have really struggled this year with differentiation. 
 Although I get the purpose of it, I am really starting to question the 
practice unless the student is already identified.  

Here are my reasons
1.  If i differentiate for you, some of my students read on a 2nd grade level, 
and you earn an A, how do I justify retaining you at the end of the year, if 
you do not having failing grades?
2.  How do I uphold academic rigor and high expectations, and provide work for 
you that is two grades below?
3.  Why are you in my 4th grade classroom if you are reading 2 grade levels 
below?
4.  How can I give you second grade work and then ask you to take a fourth 
grade test at the end of the year?
5.  Why must I teach from a fourth grade basal when 60% of my class is not 
reading at grade level?

Any advice would be appreciated.

I am trying to convince my principal to drop the basal and adopt a readers 
workshop approach.

Rosie

 


 

 



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Re: [MOSAIC] readers workshop approach

2010-11-29 Thread rr1981

 

 Sally, Would you happen to know exactly what book title has the information 
about students reading at least one hour during the school day?

Thanks!

Rosie


 

 

-Original Message-
From: Sally Thomas sally.thom...@verizon.net
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Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 12:22 pm
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] readers workshop approach


Use Richard Allington's work.  Lots of research that says children need to

be reading (not doing reading stuff) AT LEAST one hour a day at school and

they need to be reading books that are at their just right level.   His

latest is on response to intervention but his overall book that summarizes

research in reading is excellent.  It would be a great book to read as a

staff or to hand a principal. (note this doesn't specifically support

reading workshop BUT reading workshop is a structure that can allow a

teacher to implement the findings of research, ie an emphasis on actually

extensive reading AND reading at appropriate levels for each child.)

Sally





On 11/28/10 6:53 AM, rr1...@aol.com rr1...@aol.com wrote:



 

  I am trying to convince my principal that our current literacy instruction is

 ineffective and should be abandoned.   We currently use a basal series, and

 leveled readers from the series.  Students work on stations while I teach

 small groups.  There are so many problems with this concept...

 

 I have students who read at the Premier level up to 8th grade, yet they are

 all taught from the 4th grade basal.

 The stations are basically busy work, not matter what I do to differentiate

 them, and everything has to have a product (which means lots of wasted copy

 paper)

 About 6 of my 22 students do not finish or turn in their weekly stations

 There is absolutely no time for actual reading

 The lowest leveled reader that came with the series is 3.5 reading level, this

 does not help the 5+ students I have that read below that reading level

 I would like to introduce readers workshop but need some research to prove my

 point.  Does anyone know where I can locate some?

 

 Thanks, 

 Rosie

 

 

  

 

 

  

 

  

 

 

 

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[MOSAIC] readers workshop approach

2010-11-28 Thread rr1981

 I am trying to convince my principal that our current literacy instruction is 
ineffective and should be abandoned.   We currently use a basal series, and 
leveled readers from the series.  Students work on stations while I teach small 
groups.  There are so many problems with this concept...

I have students who read at the Premier level up to 8th grade, yet they are all 
taught from the 4th grade basal.
The stations are basically busy work, not matter what I do to differentiate 
them, and everything has to have a product (which means lots of wasted copy 
paper)
About 6 of my 22 students do not finish or turn in their weekly stations
There is absolutely no time for actual reading
The lowest leveled reader that came with the series is 3.5 reading level, this 
does not help the 5+ students I have that read below that reading level
I would like to introduce readers workshop but need some research to prove my 
point.  Does anyone know where I can locate some?

Thanks, 
Rosie


 


 

 



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Re: [MOSAIC] a professor's reply

2010-07-12 Thread rr1981
A different perspective if I may...

I graduated 9 years ago from a school that had a clear philosophy of inquiry 
based learning.  I had no exposure to a basal text, and direct instruction was 
also considered evil.  While I believe that the ideas presented in the Mosaic 
books is the best way for certain to learn, it is very disheartening as a new 
teacher to learn that many school districts do not hold similar views.  Please 
expose your students to basals and whatever the required curriculum is for your 
district or state.  When I first started teaching I was very angry that my 
school did not prepare me for what I saw as the real world.  There was little 
to no discussion about standardized testing especially those related to NCLB 
and AYP.  

Just another viewpoint.

Rosie

 

 


 

 

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From: medwa...@daltonstate.edu
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Sent: Mon, Jul 12, 2010 9:52 am
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] a professor's reply


Philomena,

Thanks.  I had planned on doing it.  I told a few last spring when I taught a 

seminar class; I think MOSAIC is a wonderful website.

I am sure teachers in our area are not cognizant of the site and I'll spread 
the 

word.

Mary



- Original Message -

From: Mena 

Date: Monday, July 12, 2010 9:43 am

Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] a professor's reply

To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org



 

 Hi Mary, I also teach undergrad and grads literacy pedagogy...I 

 encourage my students to join the MOSAIC LISTSERV..so that they 

 can learn as well from this collaborative group of kindred 

 spirits. Philomena

 

 

 

 Philomena Marinaccio-Eckel, Ph.D.

 Florida Atlantic University 

 Dept. of Teaching and Learning 

 College of Education 

 2912 College Ave. ES 214

 Davie, FL 33314

 Phone: 954-236-1070

 Fax: 954-236-1050

 

 

 

 

 -Original Message-

 From: medwa...@daltonstate.edu

 To: beverleep...@gmail.com; Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension 

 Strategies Email Group 

 Cc: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 

 Sent: Sun, Jul 11, 2010 6:32 pm

 Subject: [MOSAIC] a professor's reply

 

 

 Folks,

 

 I thoroughly enjoy and LEARN from your responses on this 

 website. This fall I 

 

 will teach an undergrad class in Reading Assessment and 

 Prescription (I didn't 

 

 dream up the title) to senior teacher candidates. (I typically 

 have taught 

 

 graduate courses.)

 

 

 

 I am enthralled with the discussion from real teachers of 

 reading and I will 

 

 work to incorporate your suggestions, ideas, and strategies as I 

 prepare future 

 

 teachers of reading. 

 

 

 

 I concur with your perceptions of why schools use basals 

 (security for first 

 

 year teachers and a guarantee for schools that something is 

 being taught.). 

 

 In our state we have state standards aligned with IRA standards 

 that 

 

 explicitedly state what students should know and be able to do. 

 We prepare our 

 

 teacher candidates to use multiple resources to teach the state 

 standards 

 

 (correlated to state assessments). Frequently we're finding 

 when our candidates 

 

 graduate they are employed by school systems who purchase 

 canned products that 

 

 purport to meet state standards and they are required to use the 

 products. 

 

 Teachers feel they are turned into technicians of reading and 

 are not able to 

 

 use best practices to teach reading.

 

 

 

 THANKS for the information. I will continue to read your 

 missives with much 

 

 interest.

 

 

 

 Mary 

 

 

 

 - Original Message -

 

 From: beverleep...@gmail.com

 

 Date: Saturday, July 10, 2010 5:32 pm

 

 Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Chapter 1 (Book Whisperer)

 

 To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 

 

 

 

  I, too, think basals have some value, especialy for new 

 teachers 

 

  with a not-so-wonderful teacher education program. THAT IS, if 

 

  the level of the basal meets the level of the student, which 

 

  precludes whole class instruction. It's only been recently in 

 

  my career, though, that I've seen a better alternative. When I 

 

  became a literacy coach, our district had just adopted an 

 

  official balanced literacy stance. Most of us had been 

 

  following balanced literacy practices for 20 years, though. I 

 

  was under the impression at that time that lit coaches were 

 

  nice, but not necessary. WOW was I wrong. To refer to Judy's 

 

  letter at this point, I would say that the exception to new 

 

  teachers needing a year with a basal's planning and support 

 

  would be the presence of a lit coach, with an appropriate 

 ratio 

 

  of 20 teachers:1 coach. There are so many wonderful books out 

 

  now to guide coaches, but one of the most powerful books is 

 

  Jennifer Allen's A Sense of Belonging: Sustaining and 

 Retaining New

 

  Teachers. Every administrator on 

Re: [MOSAIC] Focus Walls

2010-07-09 Thread rr1981
Laura,

I sure agree with what you say in your post.  My district seems to be under the 
assumption that if we taught the basal correctly, within the strict guidelines 
of our mandated literacy block, all the students would be proficient readers.  
No time for just reading is included in the framework!  If our scores are where 
they should be then we automatically think that the teacher wasn't teaching the 
literacy block correctly.

Rosie

 

 


 

 

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From: Laura lcan...@satx.rr.com
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Sent: Mon, Jul 5, 2010 6:35 pm
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Focus Walls


Looked at the website you cited--looks like a really complicated bulletin 
board--something that the teacher would spend far more time on than the kids 
would. Many anthologies that basal companies put out have great stories--but 
the teachers guide wants to wring far too much out of one great story--could 
really kill the story and interest in reading.  Students can certainly read 
more than one story a week which seems to be the pace for most basals.  They 
really need time in class for self-directed, self-chosen independent reading. 
Laura 
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Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 3:15 PM 
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Focus Walls 
 
I did a weekly focus wall in 2 pocket charts when we got Houghton Mifflin and 
we were encouraged to teach it with fidelity. In one pocket chart I had the 
theme, selection title, skill/strategy, and a breakdown of items within the 
skill/strategy (HM has a skill AND strategy per selection, but I only did one 
or the other). The other pocket chart was for the weekly selection's 
vocabulary. I taught this way for 2 years. Fortunately, reading scores not 
only did not go up, they went down slightly, so we are now NOT encouraged to 
even use HM. Last year, my first in 5th grade, we used the anthology ONE time 
all year (for the poetry section). I'm not saying that all the selections are 
bad--in fact, some are quite good--but I don't like teaching this way. 
 And I found this for you: 
 http://web.nmusd.us/cms/page_view?d=xpiid=vpid=1237080354622 
 Judy 
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Re: [MOSAIC] what the heck is an HM text?

2010-02-01 Thread rr1981
Yes, HM means Houghton Mifflin, and we are not allowed to stray when 
teaching literacy.


Rosie


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From: Amy Lesemann amy.lesem...@gmail.com
To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Mon, Feb 1, 2010 3:29 pm
Subject: [MOSAIC] what the heck is an HM text?


Guys, could we minimize the acronyms/abbreviations?  What's an hm text? 
And

why would you want to be in it?  The last writings went on and on about
finally cracking it. I have a good deal of experience, but I got lost. 
Maybe

it's me; maybe I don't know the code. But please spell it out.

Are you talking about Houghton Mifflin texts? That's the only hm I could
come up with and I searched the whole email digest.  Please be inclusive
when you're writing so we can all follow what you're saying - there are 
some
great ideas being lost when folks get so in that many (ok, at least 
some!)

of us start feeling out!
Thanks... maybe it's just been a long day...
--
Amy Lesemann, Reading Specialist and Director, Independent Learning 
Center

St. Thomas the Apostle Elementary School
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Re: [MOSAIC] comprehension strategies in my school

2010-01-31 Thread rr1981

Judy,

Thank you so much for your responses.  I wish that we had similar 
minded people in our district, but we don't.  Although our current 
Executive Director is leaving and will be replaced with a former 
principal from our district, I really don't see the philosophy changing 
much.  I am not allowed to stray from the HM text, and our literacy 
coach is seen by many as a lesson plan police.  She comes and checks 
that you have your objectives written, and will do a demonstration 
lesson if you ask.  She is currently pushing Thinking Maps, which I 
have begun to use.  But overuse of anything, can't really be good, can 
it?


I guess what I am looking for is some way to incorporate the strategies 
into the HM text.  That being said, I don't have a strong understanding 
of the strategies or how to teach them.  I did read MOT many years ago, 
but can't find my copy now.


Our current literacy block is mandated as follows:  30-40 of whole 
group instruction, where I am teach the 4 domains of reading required 
of the upper grades-phonics, fluency, comprehension and vocabulary.  
Additionally, we must spend 60 minutes with small groups, while the 
other students do stations.  Stations are supposed to have a product 
so that we are holding the kids accountable.  Workbook pages are not 
allowed.  Technically the kids are supposed to do a different station 
each day related to the domains, very time consuming and seems like 
busy work to me.  Small groups meet based on their reading level and we 
use the leveled reader that comes with the series.


I just don't know how this is effective.  I have four small groups, and 
can meet with them for only 15 mins.  Although the literacy coach does 
tell us that we don't have to meet with the highest kids each day.


Any additional help would be greatly appreciated!

Rosie


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From: jvma...@comcast.net
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
mosaic@literacyworkshop.org

Sent: Sun, Jan 31, 2010 11:48 am
Subject: [MOSAIC] comprehension strategies in my school


Comprehension strategies: what is the state of comprehension 
instruction in your
school? How well is comprehension being taught? What can teacher 
leaders do to

help improve practices?

I am thrilled to reply to this question. My small district in Northern
California was an early comprehension strategy follower--they even paid 
for
Ellin Keene to spend a day speaking to us and sent many teachers (not 
me, I was
new to the district then) to Colorado for training. Alas, California 
went the
way of the politicians and we were given a choice of using Houghton 
Mifflin or
Open Court. Our district chose HM and we were expected to teach it 
with
fidelity. I did so for one year and then I returned to comprehension 
strategies
(occasionally using the text from HM for shared reading). THE GOOD NEWS 
is that
finally, this year, our principal has sanctioned a return to 
comprehension
strategies (hmmm, seems those basals weren't the answer to test 
scores). Of
course, I never gave them up, but it's nice to be working in the open 
again. So
now we have a lot of training and retraining to do. It's hard to 
believe,

because my district (and boy, was I proud of it) was once so entren
 ched in MOT, we have teachers who have never even read Mosaic. We do 
have a
coach and a MOT committee and we've been given 3 Learning Communities 
for
teaching comprehension strategies. At the first one, I brought in 
students and
modeled a think aloud (I want to grow up to be Ellin Keene) and we 
discussed a
piece of literature thinking about how adults use comprehension 
strategies. At
the second we again discussed literature and shared how our work is 
going. The
third (a whole afternoon on a staff development day) is yet to be 
determined. I

am thrilled to be an official comprehension strategy teacher again.

Judy

P.S. All your questions are excellent. May I reply to more than one?
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Re: [MOSAIC] comprehension strategies in my school

2010-01-31 Thread rr1981

Judy,

I totally agree with you, however, it is not up to me.  My principal is 
usually pretty flexible, but she is currently out on medical leave.  I 
agree that reading is the key.  They do read on their own-most of 
them-as the majority of them have made their AR goal for the nine 
weeks.  I have some who have earned at least 30 points for the nine 
weeks.


Rosie


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From: soozq55...@aol.com
To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Sun, Jan 31, 2010 4:39 pm
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] comprehension strategies in my school


Rosie, 
How much reading are the kids actually doing out of a 90 minute 
literacy block? That would be more valuable than stations made of busy 
work. Their product could be a response to what they've read. 

Sue 
 
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From: rr1...@aol.com 
To: mos...@literacyworkshop.org 
Sent: Sun, Jan 31, 2010 3:38 pm 
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] comprehension strategies in my school 
 
Judy,  
  
Thank you so much for your responses. I wish that we had similar minded 
people in our district, but we don't. Although our current Executive 
Director is leaving and will be replaced with a former principal from 
our district, I really don't see the philosophy changing much. I am not 
allowed to stray from the HM text, and our literacy coach is seen by 
many as a lesson plan police. She comes and checks that you have your 
objectives written, and will do a demonstration lesson if you ask. She 
is currently pushing Thinking Maps, which I have begun to use. But 
overuse of anything, can't really be good, can it?  

  
I guess what I am looking for is some way to incorporate the strategies 
into the HM text. That being said, I don't have a strong understanding 
of the strategies or how to teach them. I did read MOT many years ago, 
but can't find my copy now.  

  
Our current literacy block is mandated as follows: 30-40 of whole group 
instruction, where I am teach the 4 domains of reading required of the 
upper grades-phonics, fluency, comprehension and vocabulary. 
Additionally, we must spend 60 minutes with small groups, while the 
other students do stations. Stations are supposed to have a product 
so that we are holding the kids accountable. Workbook pages are not 
allowed. Technically the kids are supposed to do a different station 
each day related to the domains, very time consuming and seems like 
busy work to me. Small groups meet based on their reading level and we 
use the leveled reader that comes with the series.  

  
I just don't know how this is effective. I have four small groups, and 
can meet with them for only 15 mins. Although the literacy coach does 
tell us that we don't have to meet with the highest kids each day.  

  
Any additional help would be greatly appreciated!  
  
Rosie  
  
-Original Message-  
From: jvma...@comcast.net  
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group 
mosaic@literacyworkshop.org  

Sent: Sun, Jan 31, 2010 11:48 am  
Subject: [MOSAIC] comprehension strategies in my school  
  
Comprehension strategies: what is the state of comprehension 
instruction in your  
school? How well is comprehension being taught? What can teacher 
leaders do to  

help improve practices?  
  
I am thrilled to reply to this question. My small district in Northern  
California was an early comprehension strategy follower--they even paid 
for  
Ellin Keene to spend a day speaking to us and sent many teachers (not 
me, I was  
new to the district then) to Colorado for training. Alas, California 
went the  
way of the politicians and we were given a choice of using Houghton 
Mifflin or  
Open Court. Our district chose HM and we were expected to teach it 
with  
fidelity. I did so for one year and then I returned to comprehension 
strategies  
(occasionally using the text from HM for shared reading). THE GOOD NEWS 
is that  
finally, this year, our principal has sanctioned a return to 
comprehension  
strategies (hmmm, seems those basals weren't the answer to test 
scores). Of  
course, I never gave them up, but it's nice to be working in the open 
again. So  
now we have a lot of training and retraining to do. It's hard to 
believe,  

because my district (and boy, was I proud of it) was once so entren  
 ched in MOT, we have teachers who have never even read Mosaic. We do 
have a  
coach and a MOT committee and we've been given 3 Learning Communities 
for  
teaching comprehension strategies. At the first one, I brought in 
students and  
modeled a think aloud (I want to grow up to be Ellin Keene) and we 
discussed a  
piece of literature thinking about how adults use comprehension 
strategies. At  
the second we again discussed literature and shared how our work is 
going. The  
third (a whole afternoon on a staff development day) is yet to be 
determined. I  

am thrilled to be an official comprehension strategy teacher again.  
  
Judy  
  
P.S. All your questions are excellent. May I reply to more than one?  

[MOSAIC] help with remediation of reading objectives

2010-01-30 Thread rr1981

This may not be the best place to ask, but I thought I would try...
I teach fourth grade, this is my first year there, after moving up from 
3rd.  I am also grade level chair and have just myself and two brand 
new teachers on my grade level.


I have been asked to participate in an intervention block for my grade 
level.test scores aren't where we would like them to be and we need to 
make AYP this year or we will have more sanctions.


Here are the objectives that my students are low on...Any 
advice/resources on how to reteach these would be greatly appreciated.



1.  Identify key words and discover their meanings and relationship 
through a variety of strategies.  (I take this to be context clues, 
although the language of the objective is not clear, in my opinion).


2.  Respond to fiction, nonfiction, poetry, and drama using 
interpretive, critical and evaluative processes by:

a.  Analyzing the impact of authors' word choice and context
 b.  Examining the reasons for characters' action
 c.  Identifying and examining characters' motives
  d  Considering a situation or problem from different characters' 
point of view

 e.   Analyzing differences among genres
   f.  Making inferences and drawing conclusions about characters, 
events, and themes


3.  Analyze characters, events, and plots within and between selections 
and cite supporting evidence.


4.  Analyze and integrate information from one or more sources to 
expand understanding of text including graphs, charts and/or maps.



I would greatly appreciate any help that could be provided.  The powers 
that be want the teachers to plan for this remediation themselves.  
However...I am trying to understand how that is wise, since they 
planned the first time and the students didn't master the skill.


Rosie





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Re: [MOSAIC] help with remediation of reading objectives

2010-01-30 Thread rr1981

Lori,

I understand the objective but just would like a different approach.  I 
am required to teach from a basal and have few outside resources 
available through the district.


Rosie


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Sent: Sat, Jan 30, 2010 1:09 pm
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] help with remediation of reading objectives



First thoughts--objective #2 seems broadly written to address multiple 
genres
but all the points to follow revolved around fiction. That doesn't seem 
to be

taking you where you what to go.


Lori Jackson M.Ed.Reading Specialist
Broken Bow, NE






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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 10:02:35 -0500
From: rr1...@aol.com
Subject: [MOSAIC] help with remediation of reading objectives

This may not be the best place to ask, but I thought I would try...
I teach fourth grade, this is my first year there, after moving up 

from

3rd.  I am also grade level chair and have just myself and two brand
new teachers on my grade level.

I have been asked to participate in an intervention block for my 

grade
level.test scores aren't where we would like them to be and we need 

to

make AYP this year or we will have more sanctions.

Here are the objectives that my students are low on...Any
advice/resources on how to reteach these would be greatly appreciated.


1.  Identify key words and discover their meanings and relationship
through a variety of strategies.  (I take this to be context clues,
although the language of the objective is not clear, in my opinion).

2.  Respond to fiction, nonfiction, poetry, and drama using
interpretive, critical and evaluative processes by:
 a.  Analyzing the impact of authors' word choice and context
  b.  Examining the reasons for characters' action
  c.  Identifying and examining characters' motives
   d  Considering a situation or problem from different 

characters'

point of view
  e.   Analyzing differences among genres
f.  Making inferences and drawing conclusions about 

characters,

events, and themes

3.  Analyze characters, events, and plots within and between 

selections

and cite supporting evidence.

4.  Analyze and integrate information from one or more sources to
expand understanding of text including graphs, charts and/or maps.


I would greatly appreciate any help that could be provided.  The 

powers

that be want the teachers to plan for this remediation themselves.
However...I am trying to understand how that is wise, since they
planned the first time and the students didn't master the skill.

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Re: [MOSAIC] Fw: Re: help with remediation of reading objectives

2010-01-30 Thread rr1981

Carol,

Thanks for all your helpful suggestions.  We do have Accelerated Reader 
at our school, and most of the kids made their goal for the previous 
nine weeks.  I definitely do not have a lot of environmental print in 
the room---fire marshal has strict rules and I am required to have some 
posters from Houghton MIfflin up, as well question stem posters 
mandated by the county.  We are currently reading The Lightning Thief 
as a class, the students are really enjoying it!


Rosie


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Subject: [MOSAIC] Fw: Re:  help with remediation of reading objectives


Sounds like a challenge!  I would suggest planning for the following 
for

remediation and for general instructional purposes:
1 - pull small groups of students at a time - defnitely no more than 6, 
4 is

better
2- develop a number of small teaching points to focus on within each of 
your
major objectives.  Then teach the necessary strategies using texts at 
the

students' instructional level - likely lower than grade level
3 - have students practice the learned strategy independently or with a 
partner
or small group  (when they are ready) using an independent level text - 
lower

level than guided reading text
4 - give students lots of opportunities to build and use vocab from 
classroom

read alouds (e.g. grade-level texts they did not have to struggle thru
themselves).  Incentives for using words is helpful - tally chart, 
certificates

for wordsmiths, etc.
5- use charts and graphs for multiple reasons throughout the day to
accustom children to seeing and interpreting them  ... lunch orders, 
favorite
subject, summary of predictions, etc as well as subject-related 
contexts.
6 - make sure there is a lot of environmental print in the room, with 
image
scaffolds if possible.  e.g. charts and graphs, story vocab with 
pictures and
definitions; step-by-step think-aloud summaries of strategy 
use/character
analysis, etc  (first written by teacher, later by students) on chart 
paper;

story maps of current and recent stories read, etc.
7 - refer to environmental print in teaching, and use it with student
independent work as well (read around the room, find words that ..., 
explain a

chart/graph  to a friend then have friend write explanation, etc)  
8 - incentivize reading both within and outside of class, and make sure 
students
are choosing just-right books for this purpose.  Might want to set 
goals for
each student, so that a non-reader who reads 2 (non-chapter) books a 
week will
still get a prize, an avid reader would have to read 5 chapters of a 
grade-level
text to get a prize, and so on. More reading - with appropriate texts - 
will

only help. 
 
Hope you find some of that helpful.  Good luck!
 
Carol McLoughlin
Reading Specialist/ESL Teacher
Long Island, NY


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From: EDWARD JACKSON lori_jack...@q.com
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] help with remediation of reading objectives
To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 1:09 PM



First thoughts--objective #2 seems broadly written to address multiple 
genres
but all the points to follow revolved around fiction. That doesn't seem 
to be

taking you where you what to go.


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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 10:02:35 -0500
From: rr1...@aol.com
Subject: [MOSAIC] help with remediation of reading objectives

This may not be the best place to ask, but I thought I would try...
I teach fourth grade, this is my first year there, after moving up 

from

3rd.  I am also grade level chair and have just myself and two brand
new teachers on my grade level.

I have been asked to participate in an intervention block for my 

grade
level.test scores aren't where we would like them to be and we need 

to

make AYP this year or we will have more sanctions.

Here are the objectives that my students are low on...Any
advice/resources on how to reteach these would be greatly appreciated.


1.  Identify key words and discover their meanings and relationship
through a variety of strategies.  (I take this to be context clues,
although the language of the objective is not clear, in my opinion).

2.  Respond to fiction, nonfiction, poetry, and drama using
interpretive, critical and evaluative processes by:
      a.  Analyzing the impact of authors' word choice and context
       b.  Examining the reasons for characters' action
       c.  Identifying and examining characters' motives
        d  Considering a situation or problem from different 

characters'

point of view
       e.   Analyzing differences among genres
         f.  Making inferences and drawing conclusions about 

characters,

events, and themes

3.  Analyze characters, events, and plots within and between 

selections

and cite 

Re: [MOSAIC] help with remediation of reading objectives

2010-01-30 Thread rr1981
I believe that one thing that is being neglected is vocabulary, and 
what I call word work, such as base words, prefixes, suffixes, etc.  My 
literacy coach insists that I teach the spelling rule each week, but 
doesn't seem to see that word work has equal or greater value.  My 
students are fourth graders, they should be past phonics by now.  I 
agree that they need context clues, and structural analysis way more 
than they phonics.  I just wish I could convince the literacy coach of 
that.


Rosie


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Well, I have to say that the lettered points do not cover the objective 
(too
geared to fiction when the objective is broader). You may see it 
clearly (and I
can clearly see it), but as written, something, somewhere will be 
neglected.
But in terms of the first objective, I would think it would also 
include the
ability to apply an understanding of the meaning of bases and suffixes 
and how
their addition to a word changes meaning. We saw, in my previous 
district,
kiddos who could pronounce the word but were not thinking about word 
meaning.  I
am thinking I would like students to be able to evaluate a passage and 
identify
words that are unknown to them.  Then I would want them to be able to 
apply a
variety of strategies including context clues and structural analysis 
to predict
meaning.  If this failed, I would want them to be able to identify 
those word
that appear critical to understanding and be able to identify next 
steps

(dictionary, online resources, etc.).
I don't know, Rosie, is that any closer to what you are looking for?


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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 16:24:57 -0500
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Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] help with remediation of reading objectives

Lori,

I understand the objective but just would like a different approach.  

I

am required to teach from a basal and have few outside resources
available through the district.

Rosie


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First thoughts--objective #2 seems broadly written to address 

multiple

genres
but all the points to follow revolved around fiction. That doesn't 

seem

to be
taking you where you what to go.


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 Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 10:02:35 -0500
 From: rr1...@aol.com
 Subject: [MOSAIC] help with remediation of reading objectives

 This may not be the best place to ask, but I thought I would try...
 I teach fourth grade, this is my first year there, after moving up
from
 3rd.  I am also grade level chair and have just myself and two brand
 new teachers on my grade level.

 I have been asked to participate in an intervention block for my
grade
 level.test scores aren't where we would like them to be and we need
to
 make AYP this year or we will have more sanctions.

 Here are the objectives that my students are low on...Any
 advice/resources on how to reteach these would be greatly 

appreciated.



 1.  Identify key words and discover their meanings and relationship
 through a variety of strategies.  (I take this to be context clues,
 although the language of the objective is not clear, in my opinion).

 2.  Respond to fiction, nonfiction, poetry, and drama using
 interpretive, critical and evaluative processes by:
  a.  Analyzing the impact of authors' word choice and context
   b.  Examining the reasons for characters' action
   c.  Identifying and examining characters' motives
d  Considering a situation or problem from different
characters'
 point of view
   e.   Analyzing differences among genres
 f.  Making inferences and drawing conclusions about
characters,
 events, and themes

 3.  Analyze characters, events, and plots within and between
selections
 and cite supporting evidence.

 4.  Analyze and integrate information from one or more sources to
 expand understanding of text including graphs, charts and/or maps.


 I would greatly appreciate any help that could be provided.  The
powers
 that be want the teachers to plan for this remediation themselves.
 However...I am trying to understand how that is wise, since they
 planned the first time and the students didn't master the skill.

 Rosie





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Re: [MOSAIC] picture books and comprehension strategies

2009-11-22 Thread rr1981
I checked out the Interactive Read Aloud books, why are they so 
expensive?


Rosie


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Sent: Tue, Nov 17, 2009 11:44 am
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] picture books and comprehension strategies


You're right, those books are an excellent resource as is Debbie 
Miller's book,
Reading with Meaning. I purchased Interactive Read Alouds, Linking 
Standards,

Fluency, and Comprehension for grades 2/3 and 4/5 by Linda Hoyt.  It is
published by Heinemann.  There are comprehension, vocabulary, story 
elements,
literary language, literary elements, genre, and writing, reader's 
theater
lessons included.  I've found that this is a jumping off point for many 
of the
teachers in my district.  As they study the lessons, they begin to 
develop other

lessons that extend the learning.


Lois Adams lmad...@edu.pe.ca 11/17/09 5:04 AM 

There are great lists in the Keene and Zimmerman book, 7 Keys to
comprehension, as well as in Mosaic of Thought,, and Harvey and
Goudvais's book Strategies That work.  We used these to select the books
that we have in our baskets for teacher use as mentor texts with our
work here at the school on reading comprehension and strategies.  You
will find that many can be used to teach more than one strategies, and
the important thing is always to model, model, model for kids.
We also found the website 'Into the Book' very helpful for staff,
students and parents.
Good luck.
Lois


rr1...@aol.com 11/16/2009 7:59 PM 

I am looking for a list of picture books and the comprehension
strategies that I could teach from the book.  There must be a list
somewhere.  Thanks!

Rosie


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I am in a new school that does not have everyone teaching reading in
the same
way.  The curriculum coordinator is looking at bringing in a reading
scheme to
ensure that instruction is more consistent across grade levels.  We
have
classroom libraries but there is concern that implicit teaching of
strategies is
not really happening.   What do you think about taking this approach
with
getting into a reading scheme which still has the leveled books but is

more
directed about how to teach what and when?  Experience with a good
program or
the name of a school or district I could visit to see it first hand
would also
be appreciated.   Thank you for your help with this one.



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[MOSAIC] picture books and comprehension strategies

2009-11-16 Thread rr1981
I am looking for a list of picture books and the comprehension 
strategies that I could teach from the book.  There must be a list 
somewhere.  Thanks!


Rosie


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Sent: Mon, Nov 16, 2009 5:57 am
Subject: [MOSAIC] reading schemes










I am in a new school that does not have everyone teaching reading in 
the same
way.  The curriculum coordinator is looking at bringing in a reading 
scheme to
ensure that instruction is more consistent across grade levels.  We 
have
classroom libraries but there is concern that implicit teaching of 
strategies is
not really happening.   What do you think about taking this approach 
with
getting into a reading scheme which still has the leveled books but is 
more
directed about how to teach what and when?  Experience with a good 
program or
the name of a school or district I could visit to see it first hand 
would also

be appreciated.   Thank you for your help with this one.


  
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Re: [MOSAIC] teaching comprehension skills

2009-11-11 Thread rr1981
Can you tell me the title of the little flipbook and where to purchase 
it?


Thanks!


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Janet Allen has this little flipbook thing that is filled with 
strategies for
working with older readers (grades 4-8, I believe, if not 4-12).  I 
have found
them to be quite sound when modified for younger children.  I love the 
gist
strategy she describes in this booklet.  I am betting you would find it 
helpful

and it is just the sort of thing to support without overwhelming.


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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:46:13 -0500
From: rr1...@aol.com
Subject: [MOSAIC] teaching comprehension skills

I have been reading this list serv for years and now need some
assistance.  I teach fourth grade and my students are not doing well 

on

their benchmark scores (this is NC).  I need some explicit lessons on
teaching skills such as main idea, questioning, summarizing,
sequencing, etc.  I have two new coworkers and they are really
struggling with teaching reading.

Quick and dirty lessons would be the best, I don't think they are
inclined to read an entire book!

Thanks for your help!

Rosie



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[MOSAIC] HELP!

2009-11-10 Thread rr1981
I currently teach fourth grade, after having taught third for many 
years.  I am really struggling with reading this year.  I am very tied 
in respect to how I may teach reading.  I am required to have a 30 
minute whole group reading session, with 60 minutes of station time.  
During stations I am pulling small groups of students, while students 
work independently on their station activities.


Test scores are of course, the be all, end all in my school and 
district.  How can I teach the necessary skills and strategies within 
this framework.


BTW, we are using Houghton Mifflin and are supposed to be teaching with 
fidelty.  I have already ignored that particulary demand!


Rosie



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Re: [MOSAIC] Iliad

2009-11-05 Thread rr1981
I know this may not be want you want, the stories are from the Odyssey, 
but Mary Pope Osborne has a series for elementary students.  The first 
in the series is called The One-Eyed Monster.  They make work if you 
have some below level students.  My class read the first one, I teach 
fourth grade and they loved it.  We read Greek Mythology all year long!


Rosie


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Anyone know of a good adapted version of the Iliad to use with a 7th 
grade

advanced reading class?

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Re: [MOSAIC] integrating picture books in all content areas

2009-07-25 Thread rr1981
I got a grant for about 10 titles of this author, with 7 books of each 
title.  I plan to use them to introduce math concepts in small groups.


Rosiec


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Megan,
I've just purchased a series of picture books for math called MathStart 
by
Stuart J Murphy, published by Harper Collins.  There are 3 levels:  
Level
1--ages 3 and up,  Level 2--ages 6 and up, and Level 3--ages 7 and up.  
Also
included are suggestions for adults to use with children, activities to 
help

extend the concepts presented, and other books that reinforce the same
concept.  The web site is: _www.mathstartbooks.com_
(http://www.mathstartbooks.com) .
My 6 year old granddaughter loves these books.

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Re: [MOSAIC] phonics question- 2nd grade teacher

2009-07-25 Thread rr1981
I have never really got phonics.  When  my students have to sort 
words into categories based on their phonics rules I always have to a 
colleague tell me the answer.  I obviously did not learn to read this 
way...and I have two college degrees.


Rosie


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Once again.. 
 

Whole language includes phonics instruction. 

Phonics instruction is part of whole language teaching. 

Whole language teachers teach phonics as part of their language 
program. 

 

OK, I guess that's more than once. 
 

sigh 

Renee 
 


On Jul 22, 2009, at 3:20 PM, Jeanne Crider wrote: 
 

Yes phonics is important, but within a balanced approach.  You  
can't be only phonics based nor can you only use whole language.   
You have to look at each child as an individual and base your  
instruction on their needs.  Of course you can't memorize all the  
words in the English language, that's where meaning comes in to  play. 
Meaning is what reading is all about. 



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Phonics is a necessary component of learning to read.  You can't  
memorize all of the words in the English language.  You need  skills 
to know how to approach a words you don't know.  I did a  lot of 
subbing in the middle schools during the whole language  time.  The 
kids who had no phonics stood out and had no clue how  to approach 
words they hadn't memorized. 



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Re: [MOSAIC] phonics question- 2nd grade teacher

2009-07-25 Thread rr1981
I am required to use the HM reading series.  At grade level 4 what they 
call phonics is not what I consider phonics.  For instance ...base 
words, suffixes, contractions, word roots, and homophones.  In my mind 
this is not phonics,  I would call this word work.


Rosie


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Phonic Instruction should be in all grades through grade 6.. and when 
done
effectively will impact students reading when continued through grade 
8...
Spelling skills are increased -- word recognition and retention, as 
well as
meaning are impacted. Look through the research. You will find that 
phonics is
most effective when taught with direct explicit instruction - and then 
taken
right into the text. Lesson on the spelling and formation of the mouth 
and sound

plus as students are older and you add affixes they directly change the
meanings. Phonics instruction at upper grades also allows the student 
to look at
language origins. But, again -- each time there is instruction in 
phonics you
must locate it in the book or passage you are reading and discuss it in 
context.
That's where students make the connection between reading is writing -- 
writing

is for reading and spelling it appropriately makes it readable!



From: mosaic-bounces+jjackso=nwmissouri@literacyworkshop.org on 
behalf of

Jeanne Garringer
Sent: Wed 7/22/2009 7:42 AM
To: mosaic listserve
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] phonics question- 2nd grade teacher




 I have taught for 18 years in either grades K or 1, and I am a 
real
proponent of systematic phonics instruction as providing a solid base 
of
letter/sound representation in terms of decoding strategies for 
beginning
readers.  Please check out the National Reading Panel's findings in the 
area of
phonics.  The information is very comprehensive and serves as a good 
rationale
in terms of a research base for using phonics instruction in your 
classroom.


Now in terms of do all children need phonics?, not all children 
learn in
the same fashion, so I would advocate a more balanced approach that 
would
include whole language instruction as well as the phonics.  Afterall, 
our goal
is for every word to eventually become a sight word.  I have found that 
phonics
instruction is most helpful for my students that struggle; however, my 
stronger
readers use phonics skills to help them decode more difficult words and 
when

they are writing to help them spell words.

 The bottom line is gaining meaning from text.  Children can 
decode words
all day, but if they aren't gaining meaning from what they are reading, 
then
technically they are not reading.  So yes, teach phonics along side 
other word
recognition strategies in order to catch all readers.  Make sure that 
these
skills are taught and applied in context of real text.  Decodeable 
phoncis texts
tend to be boring and have very little plot.  The children don't like 
them

either.

 You say that you teach 2nd grade so if your K and 1st grade 
teachers have
provided your children with a solid reading base (including phonics), 
you can
focus more fully on teaching the comprehension strategies such as those 
outlined

in Mosaic of Thought.  I hope this helps.

Jeanne Garringer






Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 02:06:36 +
From: swill...@comcast.net
To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Subject: [MOSAIC] phonics question- 2nd grade teacher



Hello All,



I'm a second grade school teacher.  Throughout my time in school the 

great
phonics controversy has popped up more than once.  I would like your 
take on the

topic.  Do all children need to be taught phonics?  Why or why not?





Thank you,

2nd grade School Teacher
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Re: [MOSAIC] phonics question- 2nd grade teacher-Framing

2009-07-25 Thread rr1981
Another hmm,  how do children learn to read in countries where there is 
no system based on phonics.  For instance, Japan or China?  Is there a 
corresponding sound to each symbol?  Or is it more just sight 
recognition of each symbol?  Do the symbols mean different things in 
different contexts?


Rosie


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Sent: Thu, Jul 23, 2009 8:39 am
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] phonics question- 2nd grade teacher-Framing










Hmm.  You got me thinking, Nancy.  The thing about the phonics vs. 
whole
language frame is that there is no vs since phonics is one of the 
cueing systems
we use as readers and whole language is a philosophy of teaching and 
learning,
and for some of us it's also the way we live our lives.  On a very 
basic level,
whole language teaching is about looking at the whole (comprehension) 
and then
moving into the parts (the pieces that help us to become better 
comprehenders).
But, if we don't recognize that we are already comprehending when we 
approach a
piece of text due to our background knowledge (schema) and other cues 
that the
text provides us, then we are stuck in the false dichomoty of phonics 
vs whole
language.  For example, my almost-five-year-old son can read the 
McDonalds logo
and20knows that he can get a Happy Meal with a toy and that there is a 
playground
at McDonalds despite the fact that he has never set foot in a 
McDonald's in his
life.  He is comprehending the McDonalds text due to TV commercials, 
his
friends experiences, etc.  Whole language teachers understand that 
there is no
contest here because we understand this fundamental difference.  
However, many
teachers have been led to believe that there is a legitimate war 
(still) being
waged out there (and that it should continue) and phonics is the way to 
go
because the way children learn to read is to phonicate them to death.  
Of
course, this may be considered the extreme but so is the phonics vs. 
whole
language nondebate, as far as I'm concerned.  If we can begin to 
understand this

a little better then maybe we will all be in a position to fight back.

Just to make my point as redundant as I can make it:  whole language 
teachers

teach phonics but phonics teachers can't teach whole language.
Make sense?
Elisa

Elisa Waingort
Grade 2 Spanish Bilingual
Dalhousie Elementary
Calgary, Canada

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touched.

They must be felt within the heart.
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Visit my blog, A Teacher's Ruminations, and post a message.
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On another listserv, some of us are talking about
George Lakoff's book. 
In
it he talks about how political dialogue shapes our thoughts by the 
frames

that  surround it. Apparently the mind set of the separation of whole
language and  phonics has framed some thinking by some posters here.  
Whole
language  teachers have been stating and restating the point that whole 
language


includes phonics. Several whole language teachers have posted that  
whole
language includes phonics, and yet people are still repeating that they 
are
exclusive of each other. Since this is a list about comprehension, I  
think
this is a perfect example of how to tackle this kind of problem if it 
was  in

our classroom. What strategies should be used to help increase
understanding?  And as whole language teachers, do any of you have any 
ideas of

how we
can  reframe this long held belief to strengthen understandings about 
whole

language  and let others know it is a strong and current theory of how
children learn to  read?

Nancy


In a message dated 7/23/2009 12:54:07 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
ds...@aol.com writes:

I have  been reading the responses to your question.  I think we need a 


balance of phonics and whole language.  My father taught high  school
English,
he always pushed phonics which I found difficult at  time.  I also  
loved

reading which he gave me.  As student  I wish I was given a balance of
both.
Today we need=2
0to look at the  strengths of our students to see to  
direct

our
teaching.  We  can't use just one way to teach children words and  
reading.


This is what differentiation is all about.

Diane Weiss
New Hyde  Park-Garden City Park

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Re: [MOSAIC] phonics question- 2nd grade teacher

2009-07-25 Thread rr1981
Yes I agree that aren't phonics.  I must have a phonics objective 
listed for each week in language arts, and this is what I will be 
using.


Rosie-who is phonically challenged!


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Sent: Sat, Jul 25, 2009 5:22 pm
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I can't believe HM calls this phonics!  Paul McKee must be spinning in 
his

grave!!
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From: John Ferrara ocraf...@embarqmail.com

Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 16:21:27
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email 
Groupmosaic@literacyworkshop.org

Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] phonics question- 2nd grade teacher


Rosie, you are right, it's not phonics . I have to use HM, too. Those 
pieces
of language that we mostly focus on: roots, endings, prefixes, 
suffixes,
compound words, etc. in 3rd, 4th , 5th are officially called 
structural
analysis and aren't technically phonics, but go hand in hand with 
phonics

once the students have the basics of phonics down. Structural analysis
contributes to improving vocabulary and reading fluency in the upper 
elem.

grades.

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From: rr1...@aol.com
To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] phonics question- 2nd grade teacher


I am required to use the HM reading series.  At grade level 4 what 

they
call phonics is not what I consider phonics.  For instance ...base 

words,
suffixes, contractions, word roots, and homophones.  In my mind this 

is not

phonics,  I would call this word work.

Rosie


-Original Message-
From: Jackson,Jane A jjac...@nwmissouri.edu
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mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Wed, Jul 22, 2009 11:07 pm
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] phonics question- 2nd grade teacher










Phonic Instruction should be in all grades through grade 6.. and when 

done
effectively will impact students reading when continued through grade 

8...
Spelling skills are increased -- word recognition and retention, as 

well

as
meaning are impacted. Look through the research. You will find that
phonics is
most effective when taught with direct explicit instruction - and 

then

taken
right into the text. Lesson on the spelling and formation of the 

mouth and

sound
plus as students are older and you add affixes they directly change 

the
meanings. Phonics instruction at upper grades also allows the student 

to

look at
language origins. But, again -- each time there is instruction in 

phonics

you
must locate it in the book or passage you are reading and discuss it 

in

context.
That's where students make the connection between reading is writing 

--

writing
is for reading and spelling it appropriately makes it readable!



From: mosaic-bounces+jjackso=nwmissouri@literacyworkshop.org on 

behalf

of
Jeanne Garringer
Sent: Wed 7/22/2009 7:42 AM
To: mosaic listserve
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] phonics question- 2nd grade teacher




 I have taught for 18 years in either grades K or 1, and I am a 

real
proponent of systematic phonics instruction as providing a solid base 

of
letter/sound representation in terms of decoding strategies for 

beginning
readers.  Please check out the National Reading Panel's findings in 

the

area of
phonics.  The information is very comprehensive and serves as a good
rationale
in terms of a research base for using phonics instruction in your
classroom.

Now in terms of do all children need phonics?, not all children
learn in
the same fashion, so I would advocate a more balanced approach that
would
include whole language instruction as well as the phonics.  Afterall, 

our

goal
is for every word to eventually become a sight word.  I have found 

that

phonics
instruction is most helpful for my students that struggle; however, 

my

stronger
readers use phonics skills to help them decode more difficult words 

and

when
they are writing to help them spell words.

 The bottom line is gaining meaning from text.  Children can 

decode

words
all day, but if they aren't gaining meaning from what they are 

reading,

then
technically they are not reading.  So yes, teach phonics along side
other word
recognition strategies in order to catch all readers.  Make sure that
these
skills are taught and applied in context of real text.  Decodeable 

phoncis

texts
tend to be boring and have very little plot.  The children don't like 

them

either.

 You say that you teach 2nd grade so if your K and 1st grade 

teachers

have
provided your children with a solid reading base (including phonics), 

you

can
focus more fully on teaching the comprehension strategies such as 

those

outlined
in Mosaic of Thought.  I hope this helps.

Jeanne Garringer






Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 

Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

2009-07-03 Thread rr1981
When I was a new teacher I was given the following advice...If you 
expect students to do something, they will do it.  My students are 
required to read as their morning work.  They also read for about 20 
minutes during the literacy block.  There is accountability in the fact 
that we emphasize AR.  I also expect reading response journals to be 
completed several times during the week.  I believe giving kids time to 
read is the best thing we can do for them.  If I don't give it during 
school hours, some of them may never read by themselves.


Rosie

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From: linz...@aol.com
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Sent: Wed, Jul 1, 2009 2:27 pm
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading

In response to the insights that everyone has given to me, I feel that 
most teachers don't monitor SSR and just leave it up their children to 
read during this block.? I was reading a book and it mentioned this 
problem and how a county actually got rid of it from their school day 
because it wasn't showing a huge difference in their test scores.? 
Students who don't like to read may just stare at the pages to let 
teachers think that they are reading.??IN conclusion- I just feel that 
if properly monitored, SSR can be a great tool to help reading scores 
go up.? If not,?that time could be used to teach.?



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Sent: Wed, Jul 1, 2009 12:33 pm
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Silent Sustained Reading



Lisa,

With test scores and accountability, I am sure some teachers would say 
yes to
your question that we should be satisfied that kids read profiently.  I 
would
not- I want profient readers, but I want  kids to want to read.  I 
think people
on this list strive to help all kids get to that point that they choose 
to read.
By the end of the year, I can say that my kids love that independent 
time and it
was a time we all looked forward to each day.  Unfortunately, things 
can change
once they move on.  I often had sixth grade teachers ask why kids don't 
want to
read much anymore.  I stopped worrying about what comes after they 
leave my

room, I can't change that, but I can influence other teachers.

I have to say, after reading Ellin's books, I have initiated change in 
my
building.  More and more teachers have jumped in - which means more 
kids are
choosing to read.  More and more teachers have classroom libraries and 
more kids
are involved in strategies.  With this, there is more time given for 
independent
reading. I know at the end of the year, one fifth grade teacher said 
her kids

didn't want to leave until they finished a book.




Linda
 Lisa Szyska lszy...@yahoo.com wrote:


I have a question in response to this question.

Are we satisfied to create readers that can read proficiently, but 

who would
never choose to?








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Re: [MOSAIC] explicit comprehension strategies, Readicide and the Reading Zone

2009-06-27 Thread rr1981

Ellin,

Although I am using a lurker on this list...your thoughts and comments 
were amazing to me.  My frustration is in that I am required to teach 
from a basal, within a pre-defined framework of 30 minutes of whole 
group instruction and 60 minutes of center time-while I am teaching 
small groups.  I am moving from third to fourth grade and find myself 
more and more frustrated with teaching literacy.


I believe that my lower level students are not being served in a way 
that meets their needs, and my higher level students are not either.  I 
am not sure how to engage the ones that truly struggle to read, and 
therefore hate to read.  I am also not sure what to do with the 
students that read above grade level, yet are required to read the 
basal on their grade level.


Can anyone on this list provide any ideas on how to improve my 
instruction so that everyone's needs are being met?  I too have 
struggled with the idea of breaking down my own reading, so that I 
understand what the struggling reader must be thinking when they read.  



Rosie

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From: Ellin Keene ellinke...@earthlink.net
To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org
Sent: Sat, Jun 27, 2009 2:18 pm
Subject: [MOSAIC] explicit comprehension strategies, Readicide and the 
Reading Zone


Colleagues:

I've picked up some of your posts related to whether or not to teach
comprehension strategies explicitly and, more recently, your discussion
about Readicide and Atwell's The Reading Zone.  I have not read the 
former,

but have read the latter.  I'd like to make a couple observations about
explicit strategy instruction here, but because I respect Atwell so 
much, I
read and carefully considered her arguments in The Reading Zone.  I 
took the
time, when the book came out, to get my thoughts into writing and 
should any
of you want to read my responses, please feel free to email me 
separately -
I would be happy to send you a document with my comments.  On to 
explicit

strategy instruction:



First, I fully agree that some teachers, but mostly publishers, have
basalized strategy instruction, effectively dumbing it down and 
robbing

from it what the original researchers and theoretical writers (myself,
Zimmermann, Hutchins, Harvey and Goudvis, Miller, Tovani, and the list 
goes
on and on. . .) tried to communicate about explicit strategies 
instruction.

However, there really is no choice in terms of whether we teach
comprehension strategies explicitly.  We have decades and decades of
research (Pearson, Dole, Pressley, Duke, Beck and the list goes on and 
on .

. .) to show that children (all children) comprehend more deeply and
effectively when they receive comprehension strategy instruction.  To 
ignore

such an enormous body of research would be irresponsible, at best.



We absolutely do have a choice with respect to how we approach strategy
instruction - how long we teach a strategy, whether we integrate all
strategies simultaneously, teaching them cumulatively or one at a time
(which we addressed in the second edition of Mosaic of Thought).   We 
can

choose to basalize the strategy instruction or we can observe students
carefully, understand their comprehension needs within the fuller 
context of
what they need as readers and use strategies as tools to help them 
enhance
and deepen comprehension and thus their engagement in and excitement 
about
reading - the zone. Obviously, the original researchers and 
theoretical
writers have tried to promote the latter, sometimes with greater 
success, in

some cases, much less clearly.



Secondly, as Suzanne Lee points out in a post today, the reason I wrote 
To

Understand is to directly address some of the problems I've observed and
colleagues have expressed here and elsewhere related to over-reliance on
comprehension strategy instruction. In it I argue that we must consider,
through conversation and instruction with children, where strategies 
lead
when students apply them.  Strategies are tools, so the question 
becomes,

what do the tools help us do as readers?  A quick response is that
strategies, well taught, can almost always help children reflect more
deeply, become more engaged, understand more subtle themes and topics 
and

recall and reapply more from what they read.



I certainly agree with Heather's post today: if I had to stop every 
page to
make connections, etc., it would probably make me hate reading, but 
there
are two key issues she may not have addressed here: first, she is an 
adult
proficient reader and does not need, but may certainly find that 
occasional,

conscious use of the strategies might deepen her reading experience and
secondly, that asking children to stop after every page (or anything 
like
that practice) is simply poor comprehension instruction. It may well 
lead to
students disliking not only the strategies, but reading! None of the 
writers
I listed above has ever suggested that we ask children to do such a 
thing.

This is one of many 

Re: [MOSAIC] Running Record/Reading Level Question(s)

2009-06-24 Thread rr1981
I have taught third for the past five years and our district started 
using DIBELS for 3-5 students.  K-2 may use them also, but I am not 
really sure.  My biggest beef is that students entering third grade are 
never really reading on grade level yet they are according to the 
state's K-2 assessment (NC).  I always have students who are at level 
31-32 when they level second and yet when they test on the pre-EOG many 
of them are below grade level.  (Until recently I had no idea that the 
K-2 assessment allowed teachers to prompt the students, etc.  No wonder 
it doesn't correlate with a standardized test given in the first two 
weeks of school with no assistance of any kind!)  We were also required 
to do a Critchlow Vocabulary assessment and several group assessments 
on spelling and comprehension.  I am not sure how to answer the 
question of what we do with all this information.  We record it in 
several different places and use it to make decisions involving 
retention, further testing, etc.


Rosie



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Our district has used both Rigby, Fountas  Pinnell and the DRA. (Don't 
ask me why; but teachers in this district have A LOT of autonomy.)
First grade teahers wanted to stick with Rigby even though we needed 
the higher levels that are offered in the DRA kit. Then when F  P came 
out, I asked some teachers to pilot it because we used the F  P 
leveling system in our guided reading room.
You are absolutely correct in that ONE system should be used. I hoped 
we could get to the point where a committee comprised of teachers who 
used each of the leveling systems could come together to identify ONE 
assessment for the district that would be admnistered two or three 
times each year. I hoped that would be reported to the district, but, 
alas, it wasn't. So, teachers really used the data for the classroom 
which was great for the teachers, but the district couldn't identify 
trends.
Jennifer is correct, though, in stating that the district needs to 
identify how the data will be used. If it is just for the teacher, then 
it doesn't really matter. However, if it is to track progress for the 
district, then it is extremely important for the district to have one 
system in place. We found great differences in the three assessments. 
Also, I can't emphasize enough the importance of staff development. We 
had first grade teachers who would assess the students just on the 
running records and kind of ignore the comprehension part. When the 
students entered second grade, there was a big discrepancy (even after 
teachers took the loss of reading over the summer) between the 
comprehension of the students. That's why I liked the F  P--it had 
both fiction and non fiction and gave specific comprehension questions 
with points for possible answers.
Now, however, we have a new administrative team in place. Teachers will 
only be allowed to use the adopted basal testing program (Don't get me 
started!) Also, the district uses MAPS for grades 2 - 8. To the 
teachers' credit, they want to continue using running records because 
it offered them so much information. (I retired because of the basal 
issue.)

Carol
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Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 8:54:26 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: [MOSAIC] Running Record/Reading Level Question(s)

I apologize in advance for this very lengthy and somewhat rookie 
question.


I have been teaching for 6 years. My first year I was told I needed to
complete running records on each student. That was it. No kit (didn't
even know there was such a thing at the time) and no benchmarks or 
goals

as to what fourth grade students should be reading at. I went into the
Literacy Lab and made my own kit, pulling books from the leveled reader
library. I did running records on each student 3 times that year with 
no
clear purpose or goal. My second year, a Literacy Facilitator was 
hired.
When I asked her about it, she told me my kit was fine and gave me a 
guide

as to what levels were expected at each grade level. I was told that
fourth grade needed to be reading at a level 40 by the end of fourth
grade. That said, our leveled readers only went up to Level 40. So I've
never been exactly clear as to what was expected of fifth grade.

A few years ago, we got a new Literacy Facilitator. She made new 
levels.

Third grade students should be reading at a Level 32 by the end of the
year, fourth grade a Level 36, and fifth grade a Level 40. Once again, 
I

thought this was terribly convenient, since our leveled reader library
only went to Level 40. Also, she told us to formally assess the 
students

every month.

Suddenly, halfway through this school year, our 

Re: [MOSAIC] Small Group Instruction

2008-09-01 Thread rr1981

 I teach third grade and we were required to assess our students the very first 
day!? We had to give the DIBELS, a Critchlow vocabulary test, a spelling and 
high frequency word test as well as the baseline test for the HM series.? This 
was done all week long.? Surprisingly my kids did fairly well working 
independently while I administered the parts that were one on one.? That said I 
think this is crazy.? My students will be taking a standardized test in two 
weeks!


 


 

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I honestly think it depends on the children.  I am of a mind that it also
depends on the activities.  I like to see these centers very simple and
accessible to get started--so that we are learning how to do centers before
learning how to do centers.  Our teachers have four week before a round of
one on one assessment. I encourage them to have these routines in place
before that happens.

lori


On 8/30/08 11:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am a reading specialist who is helping K, 1st and 2nd grade teachers set up
 small  groups that will rotate
 and work at centers independently.  I have done this with intermediate
 students and middle grade students,
 but not with primary students.
 
 What is a realistic time that K, 1st and 2nd grade teachers should be given to
 develop independence so that they can meet with reading groups?  They are
 saying 8 weeks which I can see for the K students.
 What about 1st and 2nd graders?  I was thinking of 4-6 weeks depending on the
 degree of independence
 that they already have.
 
 Any help from your own experiences will be appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Small Group Instruction

2008-09-01 Thread rr1981

 I teach third grade and we are expected to do this the very second week of 
school.? Realistically this should take at least 4-6 weeks at my grade level.


 


 

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This was my reaction, too.
:-)
Renee

On Aug 30, 2008, at 12:45 PM, Beverlee Paul wrote:

 I don't think I'd be of much help because, for the life of me, I can't  
 imagine with all the wonderful things in the world and what we know  
 about literacy development, we'd want to put kindergartners in reading  
 groups by October of their first year of school.

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org Date: Sat, 30  
 Aug 2008 17:54:42 + Subject: [MOSAIC] Small Group Instruction   
 I am a reading specialist who is helping K, 1st and 2nd grade  
 teachers set up small groups that will rotate and work at centers  
 independently. I have done this with intermediate students and middle  
 grade students, but not with primary students.  What is a  
 realistic time that K, 1st and 2nd grade teachers should be given to  
 develop independence so that they can meet with reading groups? They  
 are saying 8 weeks which I can see for the K students. What about  
 1st and 2nd graders? I was thinking of 4-6 weeks depending on the  
 degree of independence that they already have.   Any help from  
 your own experiences will be appreciated.  Thanks,  Jeanne  
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Re: [MOSAIC] Small Group Instruction

2008-09-01 Thread rr1981

 NC gives third grade students a pre-EOG (End of Grade test).? It must be given 
within the first three weeks of school.? It is used as a benchmark score for 
the end of the year test that all students take in our state grades 3-8.? It 
assesses their second grade skills.


 


 

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Which standardized test, if you don't mind answering?

 To: mosaic@literacyworkshop.org Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 10:05:18 -0400 From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Small Group Instruction   I teach 
third 
grade and we were required to assess our students the very first day!? We had 
to 
give the DIBELS, a Critchlow vocabulary test, a spelling and high frequency 
word 
test as well as the baseline test for the HM series.? This was done all week 
long.? Surprisingly my kids did fairly well working independently while I 
administered the parts that were one on one.? That said I think this is crazy.? 
My students will be taking a standardized test in two weeks!
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Sent: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:45 pm Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Small Group Instruction 
  I honestly think it depends on the children. I am of a mind 
that it also depends on the activities. I like to see these centers very 
simple 
and accessible to get started--so that we are learning how to do centers 
before learning how to do centers. Our teachers have four week before a round 
of one on one assessment. I encourage them to have these routines in place 
before that happens.  lori   On 8/30/08 11:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   I am a reading specialist who is helping K, 1st 
and 2nd grade teachers set up  small groups that will rotate  and work at 
centers independently. I have done this with intermediate  students and 
middle 
grade students,  but not with primary students.What is a realistic 
time that K, 1st and 2nd grade teachers should be given to  develop 
independence so that they can meet with reading groups? They are  saying 8 
weeks which I can see for the K students.  What about 1st and 2nd graders? I 
was thinking of 4-6 weeks depending on the  degree of independence  that 
they already have.Any help from your own experiences will be 
appreciated.Thanks,   
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Re: [MOSAIC] Small Group Instruction

2008-09-01 Thread rr1981

 My district has adopted HM with fidelty.? The district has provided us with 
a timeline that gives each story, the skill, etc. and when to teach it.? We are 
required to teach a 90 minute literacy block, 60 minutes of which must be 
stations and small group instruction.? We have even been told this how to 
weight grades -at the elementary level-and what categories we must use.? 
Because our school is in school improvement K-3 teachers will have 80 hours of 
reading first training, although we aren't becoming a reading first school 
according to our principal.? We also have to write a personalized education 
plan for EVERY student regardless of their achievement level.? In the past we 
only did this for students who were in jeopardy of failing.? I have decided 
that since we can't control what children come to our school, then we have 
decided that the teachers are broke otherwise everyone would be at grade 
level, so they are trying to fix us!? Not sure why I spent 6 years in school.? 
Sometimes wish I could get find a new profession.

Rosie


 


 

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I have been waiting to post this, but now seems like the right time.

When I came to my current, I was thrilled--their articulated  
curriculum was reading strategies with specific genres for each grade  
level. In grades K-3 there was a basal, but it was used differently  
in each of our buildings. Reading and writing workshop were used in  
all buildings.The biggest problem was that intermediate teachers  
could really do what they wanted because there was a lack of direction.

WE adopted 6 traits the first year I was in my position.

I thought I could provide that direction. Together with a language  
arts committee, we refined expectations; we gave meat to what  
teaching the strategies meant. We moved away from whole class novels.  
We created book rooms so teachers could provide guided reading when  
appropriate. I purchased the comprehension toolkit for every 3-6  
grade teacher. Together with the Great Source Daybooks, these  
materials helped teachers explicitly teach strategies and gave  
students opportunities to practice their strategies. I felt we were  
making progress.

However, last year we had a new board--they wanted differentiation.  
They COULD NOT be persuaded that the language arts curriculum WAS  
differentiated. Two consultants pointed out our strengths, but the  
board didn't see it that way. There was inconsistency, but the  
complaints came from parents whose children attended those schools  
were whole class novels were more the norm than not. So, the whole  
district is suffering.

For this year, a language arts task force is being created to look  
at materials for teaching reading. In speaking with the outside  
consultant who was hired, it is obvious he feels a basal meets the  
needs of the TEACHERS. He says it equalizies instruction--never mind  
that it might not be the best instruction.

An enrichment coordinator was also hired for this year. Now, he is  
pulling out students for William and Mary curriculum. He's also told  
me that a basal will help teachers identify specific goals and  
objectives. Yet, in the junior high where we are using a completely  
new anthology, he wants teachers to go through the anthology to  
identify goals so that differentiation can occur. I don't know how he  
expects teachers to find the time to teach--they will be doing so  
much assessment in order to identify those who need the  
differentiation!!!

For the first year in my entire career, I dread going to work, and  
it's only the first week!!! This will be my last year because my  
position is being eliminated to make room for enrichment teachers.  
I'm trying hard not to be bitter and disappointed, but it's so hard.

Thanks for letting me vent my frustration at this move away from best  
practice to a BASAL.

Carol

On Sep 1, 2008, at 6:03 PM, Renee wrote:

 This is true in my little corner of the world as well to an  
 extent.
 I say to an extent because frankly I haven't seen a whole heck of a
 lot of evidence of instruction that is out of the box.  Interestingly,
 a good number of teachers teach to the program and the district  
 chose
 Saxon Math for the second time in a row (ick ick ick ick) but as  
 far as
 I know nobody's neck is breathed down and I know at least one teacher
 who says she didn't use it before and won't use it now. Plus, in more
 than one conversation with my principal last year we discussed
 fidelity to the program vs fidelity to the standards and fidelity
 to the students but with all that. there is a rubric for teacher
 evaluations, and in that rubric, teachers supposedly get a higher  
 score
 if they supplement programs appropriately vs sticking to the program.
 

Re: [MOSAIC] critical reading on the SAT

2008-07-15 Thread rr1981

 


 Not sure how to answer the question.? My son is SLD in reading and just took 
the SAT for the second time.? His critical reading score was 370, yet his math 
score was 600.? I guess it depends on where he wants to go to college and for 
what.? Many top schools are not even looking at SAT scores anymore.? My sons 
has a gpa of about 3.80 unweighted, and has many honors and AP courses.? 

Rosie


 

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Yikes! It is that time of year when my son has just received his SAT scores and 
his critical reading score is pretty low- any ideas on how to improve it, as it 
seems that most of the colleges he is interested in like a higher score? I know 
he is a slap dash reader, but ...? the goal is not just to improve the score, 
but improve the reading.
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Re: [MOSAIC] Re (Mosaic) Vocabulary Strategies

2008-07-15 Thread rr1981

 I love this idea!? I teach third grade, and am puzzled why we don't spend more 
time on things like this, as opposed to phonics rules.? 

Rosie


 


 

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Is anyone focusing on Latin roots as a vocabulary strategy?  My school  has a 
tree painted in our first floor landing.  We are focusing on  prefixes, 
suffixes, and latin and greek roots.  3rd-5th grade clasroms add  leaves to the 
tree that come from the focused root. We are looking to expand  this project 
and 

I was wondering if anyone had any ideas.
 
Thanks.  I am new to this group and this is my first question.
 
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Re: [MOSAIC] (Mosaic) Book review

2008-05-31 Thread RR1981
 
In a message dated 5/31/2008 2:38:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I am  very interested in reviewing Put Thinking in the Test, and would like 
to know  more about how to be included.  I tried the last time, but without  
success.


I would also like to review this one.  What do I have to do?
 
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Re: [MOSAIC] End of Grade Testing

2008-05-25 Thread RR1981
 
In a message dated 5/20/2008 11:28:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

decided  to (buy and) study Test Talk (Greene  Melton)


What is Test Talk?
 
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Re: [MOSAIC] End of Grade Testing

2008-05-25 Thread RR1981
 
In a message dated 5/23/2008 9:29:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Now  here's a question to which I'd love to have frank and honest answers 
from each  of us on this listserve:  which of us could score well on a test 
with  
that quantity of reading and three minute breaks?  I can't understand  why 
parents aren't screaming their heads off! 


I think parents are either unaware, or think this must age appropriate  since 
the schools are doing it.
 
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Re: [MOSAIC] smartboards

2008-02-14 Thread RR1981
This looks really interesting.  has anyone signed up?
 
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Re: [MOSAIC] smartboards

2008-02-13 Thread RR1981
My entire school will get smarbaords for each classroom by the beginning of  
next school year.  I am beginning to collect idas as well, so looking  forword 
to others suggestions.
 
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[MOSAIC] Differentiating literacy stations

2008-01-05 Thread RR1981
I currently teach in a third grade classroom, my school is Title I and we  
are in our third year of not making AYP.  We are requied to teach a 90  minute 
literacy block.  30-40 minutes of whole group instruction with a 60  minute 
rotation for stations and small group instruction.  We are NOT  permitted to 
teach any other curriculum during this time and cannot have  students engage in 
writing activities unless it is in direct response to  something they read.  We 
 
MUST teach from the basal in the order  dictated by the county.
 
My question is...we are supposed to be differentiating the stations for  four 
levels of abilities.  I know that we aren't doing this correctly and  
sometimes not at all.  How do we go about doing this?  We get very  little 
common 
plannig time as a grade level.  Our grade level chair is  expereinced with 20+ 
years of teaching, but the rest of us have little  experience.  I have looked 
at 
several great books but many of them assume  you get to choose the curriculum 
or can integrate other subjects into the  literacy block.  I am truly at a 
loss as to what to do.  There is no  additional adult with me during this time. 
 
I have about five low readers,  and the rest of the class is average or 
slightly above.  
 
HELP!!!  I feel like I am about to loose my mind.
 
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Re: [MOSAIC] (Mosaic) Differentiating Work Stations

2008-01-05 Thread RR1981
 
Linda,
 
Thanks for your suggestions.  I only have four stations per  week.  Students 
are either in..small group instruction with me, Thinking  Lab (this is for 
accelerated reading time) and the actual station.   Everyone does the same 
station during the 60 minute rotation.  I only have  two computers that 
students can 
use in my classroom and I am very hesitant to  use them.  I tried letting 
students take AR tests, but then they just  stood around and waited for their 
turn.  (big waste of time) so now I don't  allow that.  I am supposed to have a 
Product for everything little thing  they do, which wastes a lot of paper and 
my time.  
 
I am sorry I sound like I am whining.  
 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Differentiating literacy stations

2008-01-05 Thread RR1981
 
In a message dated 1/5/2008 6:45:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Rosie,
What basal are you required to use?
Deb (SpEd in  IL)


I am required to use Houghton Mifflin which from what I can see does not  
offer the differentiation that I am supposed to be doing. 
 
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Re: [MOSAIC] (Mosaic) Differentiating Work Stations

2008-01-05 Thread RR1981
 
In a message dated 1/5/2008 7:23:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Whining?  Hardly.  I am impressed that you are still an  educator.  What a 
Brave New World we lived  in.



This is my sixth year of teaching,  I started at age 39.  I love  working 
with my students each day, but the paperwork and BS is  unbelievable.  I don't 
know what it was like to teach back in the good old  days like some of my 
colleagues, so maybe that is why I am still here.  
 
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Re: [MOSAIC] (Mosaic) Differentiating Work Stations

2008-01-05 Thread RR1981
 
In a message dated 1/5/2008 7:45:16 PM Eastern Standard Time,  mrs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

If you  research Interactive
Notebook-type notebook, you will find the notebook  itself IS the product.
Kim



Kim,
 
This looks very interesting.  I just googled it and most of the  information 
appears to be for middle and high schools.  Do you have any  specific 
information for the primary grades?  I do have my students keep a  notebook in 
Reading 
class.  They have a numbered section at the front where  we record elements 
of the various genres that they need to know.  Then we  take notes on every 
story.  The first two pages is a bubble map for the  vocab and then the 
definitions of each vocab word.  We also use it to take  notes on different 
parts of 
grammar, but not much else.  
 
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[MOSAIC] differentiated stations

2007-12-13 Thread RR1981
I currently teach third grade and we use Houghton Mifflin-supposedly with  
fidelty.  That said, we are supposed to be tiering our stations and I am  
really not sure what this is supposed to look like.  We have been reamed by  
the 
AP because our benchmarks scores don't match our report card grades.   Now I am 
supposed to be tiering all the stations-but then she isn't going to  like the 
grades again, because some students will have modified  assignments.
 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Questioning

2007-10-14 Thread RR1981
 
In a message dated 10/14/2007 2:42:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

http://www.elemedu.ccs.k12.nc.us/Default.htm_


Darn,  
 
I thought this would link you to the exact page, but I guess not.   Click on 
resources on the left hand side.  This should take you to the  correct page.  
 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Questioning

2007-10-13 Thread RR1981
_http://www.elemedu.ccs.k12.nc.us/Default.htm_ 
(http://www.elemedu.ccs.k12.nc.us/Default.htm) 
 
This list will take you to some bookmarks that have different levels of  
question stems on it.  I am using them with my third graders.  
 
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Re: [MOSAIC] spelling lists

2007-09-23 Thread RR1981
 
In a message dated 9/22/2007 9:52:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time,  [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] 
writes:

Having  said that, last year at my school we were 
presented with a great deal of  research that stated that it was essential 
that 
children in grades k-2 are  explicitely taught phonics in a systematic way, 
teaching each phoneme at a  time. 


Cami,
 
This is exactly why I would never go below third grade.  There is also  some 
researchers who believe that the only children who get phonics are those  
that can already read.
 
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Re: [MOSAIC] question about a student

2007-09-15 Thread RR1981
 
In a message dated 9/14/2007 8:56:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time,  [EMAIL 
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writes:

As far  as I can tell for a student with a 504 plan for ADHD the only thing 
necessary  is for the parent to say the student has ADHD and for the teachers 
to agree  that's probably true.  (Although the second part seems not to be 
always  necessary.)


I believe that there has to be medical documentation as well.  We  can't go 
on the parents just saying it is so.  Also, it has to interfere  with their 
ability to learn, which may not always be true.
 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Accelerated Reading

2007-09-03 Thread RR1981
 
In a message dated 9/3/2007 10:21:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I  am, and will remain, a staunch opponent of AR. If I moved to another  
school
 and they adopted AR, I would be looking for another teaching  position.


Joy,
 
I totally agree with you, but it is expected that my students will make  
their AR goals each month.  We used to deduct one percentage point from  their 
reading grade if they didn't make their goal, but we are no longer allowed  to 
do 
that.
 
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Re: [MOSAIC] gifted cluster class

2007-08-20 Thread rr1981

I do not teach in a school with Reading First.? I am going to try to adapt the 
basal for lit circles-another teacher in our district has done something 
similar.? I do know that there are enrichment suggestions for gifted students 
in the HM curriculum and will look into that as well.? 

I really appreciate all the suggestions.

Rosie

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Rosie,
  You're at a Reading First school?
   
  Could you use the basal, but go deeper with their work once they finish the 
requirements? Doesn't the HM teacher's guide have suggestions for gifted 
learners? Could you find other books that have connected themes and run lit 
circles with the kids? Could you do lit circles with the basal? Just thinking 
off the top of my head.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I am really not sure how to answer this question.? My students can be 
classified as gifted in math and/or reading.? I am not aware of each students 
classification at this time.? 

As far as teaching from the basal, all I can tell you is that my entire county 
is required to work with the HM basal series.? We are supposed to be using it 
with fidelty meaning supplementing with any other materials.? Of course this 
is crazy and many of us do, however, we could get in trouble depending on who 
enters the classroom.? 

Rosie


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Re: [MOSAIC] gifted cluster class

2007-08-19 Thread rr1981

Laura,

Your question is confusing, can you clarify?

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How is a gifted class if you have to teach the basal and in a certain order?

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I have just found out that I will be teaching the third grade gifted cluster
class.  We are required to use a basal and must teach the stories in a
particular order.  I want to teach the students about thick and thin
questions, as a way of extending their knowledge of the stories read.  Does
anyone have any other suggestions?  
This is the first time that I will have the gifted class.  

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Re: [MOSAIC] gifted cluster class

2007-08-19 Thread rr1981
I am really not sure how to answer this question.? My students can be 
classified as gifted in math and/or reading.? I am not aware of each students 
classification at this time.? 

As far as teaching from the basal, all I can tell you is that my entire county 
is required to work with the HM basal series.? We are supposed to be using it 
with fidelty meaning supplementing with any other materials.? Of course this 
is crazy and many of us do, however, we could get in trouble depending on who 
enters the classroom.? 

Rosie


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Here are a couple of summaries of position statements from the National  
Association for Gifted Education:

ADDRESSING AFFECTIVE NEEDS OF GIFTED CHILDREN
Educational and counseling programs must provide all children with  
opportunities to develop understanding of themselves and their role in  
society. Because, by definition, gifted children differ significantly  
from others, these programs should be responding to the social  
emotional or affective characteristics that distinguish gifted students  
from others

DIFFERENTIATION OF CURRICULUM AND INSTRUCTION
NAGC supports the provision of appropriate quality educational  
experiences for all students across the spectrum of ability,  
background, and achievement. The learning needs of gifted students  
often differ from those of other students and should be addressed  
through differentiation, a modification of curriculum and instruction  
based on the assessed achievement and interests of individual students.

More complete statements can be accessed at  
http://www.nagc.org/index.aspx?id=375

The very idea that a district/school would create a gifted cluster  
class and then mandate that the basal be strictly adhered to is really  
absurd to the max, in my opinion.

Renee


On Aug 19, 2007, at 10:25 AM, ljackson wrote:

 I think I get it.  How does lock step, one size fits all instruction  
 make
 sense in a gift and talented classroom?  Course, I think this is a  
 valid
 question for every group of learners.

 Lori


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 Laura,

 Your question is confusing, can you clarify?

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 How is a gifted class if you have to teach the basal and in a certain  
 order?

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 I have just found out that I will be teaching the third grade gifted  
 cluster
 class.  We are required to use a basal and must teach the stories in a
 particular order.  I want to teach the students about thick and thin
 questions, as a way of extending their knowledge of the stories read.  
  Does
 anyone have any other suggestions?
 This is the first time that I will have the gifted class.

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Re: [MOSAIC] gifted cluster class

2007-08-19 Thread rr1981

I am in NC.

Rosie


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What state do you teach in, Rosie? 
 
I am really not sure how to answer this question.? My students can be 
classified as gifted in math and/or reading.? I am not aware of each students 
classification at this time.? 
 
As far as teaching from the basal, all I can tell you is that my entire county 
is required to work with the HM basal series.? We are supposed to be using it 
with fidelty meaning supplementing with any other materials.? Of course this 
is crazy and many of us do, however, we could get in trouble depending on who 
enters the classroom.? 
 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Students who don't learn to read

2007-07-22 Thread RR1981
In my opinion STAR is strictly assessing vocabulary.  There is no  assessment 
of higher level thinking skills within the context of a real  story.
 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Students who don't learn to read

2007-07-21 Thread RR1981
 
In a message dated 7/20/2007 9:31:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Are you  meeting the needs of 90% of your students?



My district adopted HM last year and we are supposed to be using it with  
fidelty-meaning we aren't allowed to supplement with any non-HM  materials.  
One program cannot be the answer to everyone's reading  needs!  
 
I don't believe that I am meeting the needs of many of my students.   They 
read below grade level yet, I am teaching them weekly on materials above  their 
ability.  Even some of the lowest level readers are too difficult for  many of 
them to read independently.  
 
I get very frustrated teaching reading, sometimes I wish I just teach the  
other subjects and skip reading.  
 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Students who don't learn to read

2007-07-21 Thread RR1981
 
In a message dated 7/21/2007 9:24:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Our  district does that with the Reading First mentality, especially in  the
primary grades.  When the literacy coaches (reading  police)


I don't teach in a reading first school, I am the one with fidelty to  HM.  
We also has a literacy coach last year who we referred to as the  lesson plan 
police.  She would come in with her little clip board to check  your 
objectives-which had to be written daily some where for the children to  read.  
(strangely enough,when  I went to school the teachers didn't  write objectives 
on the 
board and I wasn't traumatized by it).  I got smart  about what I wrote for my 
objectives and made them deliberatley vague and  generic so that I didn't 
have to rewrite them all each week.  I  specifically asked her one time if my 
higher level students could read a novel  during small group time-even the ones 
that come with the basal-and she said,  Why would you want to do that?  My 
reply, So we could read some  authentic literature.  She told me that I 
couldn't do that.   UGH!!!  We are also not allowed to integrate any other 
subjects 
into our  literacy block-90 minutes + 30 additional minutes for writing.  This 
leaves  very little time for Math, Social Studies, Science and Health.  I 
wonder  what teaching was like when teachers got to use their own brains.
 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Complacency vs. Implementing What I've Learned

2007-07-19 Thread RR1981
 
In a message dated 7/19/2007 8:34:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time,  ljackso
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I have  also been somewhat torn about the role that the union plays but have
come  to different conclusions. 


What an interesting topic of conversation.  My only reply is be  thankful you 
live in a state that allows teachers to join unions.  I teach  in NC and we 
are not allowed to belong to collective bargaining units.  Yes  we have a North 
Carolina division of the NEA and can participate and pay into  the 
organization.  It does lobby the legislators-who determine our  salaries-but we 
can't 
bargain at all.  
 
We have no protection against administrators who think we should stay after  
for meetings every day, etc.  
I have a master's degree and five years of experience and don't make  $40,000.
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Re: [MOSAIC] Wilson Reading Program/Fundations

2007-03-25 Thread RR1981
I know very little about Wilson reading myself.  However, when my son  was in 
the sixth grade and we had moved to a new state, he was offered a Wilson  
reading class as part of his IEP.  It just happened that he ended up having  it 
for two periods each day the entire year.  
 
It helped him tremendously and he now reads at grade level.  He still  
doesn't like reading, but he is a capable reader.
 
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[MOSAIC] looking for clips to hang chart paper from chalk board

2007-03-14 Thread RR1981
Does anyone know where I can purchase clips that hang from your chalkboard  
to hang chart paper from?  
 
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Re: [MOSAIC] new Basal Adoption

2007-03-10 Thread RR1981
My district adopted Houghton Mifflin this school year.  The basal  stories 
are good, the problem I have with the series is that our district has  decided 
that we aren't supposed to use anything other than the publishers  components.  
 
I teach third grade and there are leveled readers, however, even the lowest  
level ones are too difficult for many of my students to read  independently.  
 
 
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Re: [MOSAIC] Protected book lists

2007-02-19 Thread RR1981
 
In a message dated 2/19/2007 6:48:05 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Also,  
when some students have already read something, they tend to ruin it for  
others. How do you work around situatons like  this?




I teach third grade and we must teach reading from a basal.  Usually  my 
students exposure to novels is limited to teacher read alouds.  I guess  maybe 
I 
don't see the end where many of them have read a book previously, as the  vast 
majoroity of my students read very simple chapter books such as Henry and  
Mudge.  
 
However, I have had a few occasions where this has happened, and I simply  
ask the student not to give a way too much.  
 
Rosie
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Re: [MOSAIC] Non fiction convention notebook is on the Tools Page

2007-02-18 Thread RR1981
 
In a message dated 2/18/2007 2:21:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hi  Debbie
A great way for your grade 2 students to understand non - fiction  text is to 
make a non -fiction conventions notebook.  You will find a  great example on 
the Tools for Teachers page on the Mosaic of Thought  website!  
Look under worksheets and  reporting.


Donna,
 
I just love this!  I think I will use this in small group over the  next 
several weeks.  I am looking for an example of a readers  notbeook.  Not sure 
what 
exactly I want in the notebook, but want the  students to have a variety of 
information at  their fingertips.  Any  idea, examples, suggestions?  I am 
already starting to plan for next years  lessons!  (In my head only).
 
Rosie
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Re: [MOSAIC] Fluency

2007-02-10 Thread RR1981
 
In a message dated 2/10/2007 5:55:03 AM Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Now  I agree that once a week--you are not going to see major gains. 
But, if  you use the information you get from the fluency checks to 
drive your  instruction you will see positive gains over time.
Mary  Anne


I can tell you that we aren't using the information to drive instruction as  
we are mandated to use the Houghton Mifflin series in a specific order.  I  
personally think that we are doing it so we can document why Susie shouldn't go 
 
to the next grade level.
 
Rosie
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Re: [MOSAIC] Fluency

2007-02-10 Thread RR1981
 
In a message dated 2/10/2007 8:21:41 AM Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I agree  with Lori. Also there are many other strategies for building 
fluency, such as  choral reading, and echo reading. 

I think the idea  behind checking their fluency is to make sure you are 
hearing them read every  week. Have you had specific fluency training? I know 
there 
are folks at DPI  who are interested in seeing our students improve their 
fluency, but not to  the exclusion of anything else. Our SCOS requires a 
balanced 
approach, and in  NC the SCOS is the law. We can lose our jobs, our license, 
and face criminal  charges if we don't follow it. (Although you don't hear of 
that happening very  often.)

Are you in a Reading First School, Rosie?  It sounds like many of the 
mandates you are encountering may be coming from  that. 



Joy,
 
We are not a Reading First school.  The entire county is supposed to  be 
following the Houghton Mifflin series.  The county has adopted a  curriculum 
guide 
that tells you what story to teach and what week to teach  it!   I have not 
had any training in teaching fluency.   We are also required to teach a 90 
minute reading block with just 30  minutes of whole group time, and 60 minutes 
of 
rotations.  During rotation  time they come to me for small group instruction, 
they go one station per day  and they go to what we call the thinking lab.  
Unfortunately thinking lab  and stations are independent work and they must 
produce a product while  there.  My grade level does integrate other skills 
that 
aren't in the HM  series, although techincally we aren't supposed to be doing 
that.  During  small group instruction we read the leveled reader, work on 
vocabulary and read  short passages that have to do with a content are such as 
Social Studies or  Science.  
 
One of my concerns is that we are heavily into Acclerated Reader.  So,  why 
would I as a student want to spend time re-reading stories I have already  
tested on , when I can't earn points for them again?
 
Rosie
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Re: [MOSAIC] Fluency

2007-02-09 Thread RR1981
 
In a message dated 2/9/2007 5:41:50 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

But the  thing that sticks with me most about your post is that you are
doing these  fluency checks weekly. Let's see 20 students 5
minutes per students  (the test itself plus all the transition time and
notetaking) that's  100 minutes a week that you are not teaching.
How do you feel about  this?

I would be interested in knowing what strategies you can get from  your
literacy coach.
Renee


I must test each student that is below level grade, for me that is 9  
students.  One of whom I just test on sight words because he is ESL and  hasn't 
mastered them all yet.  I forgot to mention I am supposed to l have  each 
student 
read the passage three times and then take the best reading for  documentation 
purposes.  Yes, I MUST do this weekly, it is not  optional.  
 
I am not sure if this is politically correct or not but I think my students  
would make more progress if they were being taught on their reading level, not 
 their grade level.  What is wrong with ability grouping for reading?   Yes I 
know that they need to hear better readers, but even within a class of  low 
readers there will still be varying levels of ability.  Not to  mention that 
they hear me read to them every day.  
 
I make this analogy:  If I spend my whole day in a calculus class yet  I 
don't understand sixth grade math how am I to become a better math  student?
 
Rosie
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[MOSAIC] Fluency

2007-02-08 Thread RR1981
I am sorry if this sounds negative but I am trying to get some  clarification 
on something.  My school is a low-performing school that is  required to 
teach exclusively from the Houghton Mifflin basal.  We MUST do  a fluency 
record 
on each child who is not reading at grade level every  week.  We are the lowest 
level third grade leveled reader passage for the  fluency record.  Most of my 
students being checked weekly are reading at  least a grade below.  
 
My first question is:  Should these checks be done after the student  has 
been exposed to the passages?  They are taken directly from the leveled  reader 
that we read each week, however, I test most of my students prior to us  
reading the leveled reader.  My theory was if they were fluent readers, it  
shouldn't matter if it is a cold reading.  
 
I got a sticky note today telling me that I need to consult with the  
literacy coach on fluency strategies since my students fluency is  dropping.  
Seems 
perfectly natural to me since the texts we are reading are  becoming more and 
more difficult and the vocabulary mose sophiscated.  
 
What is the point of this weekly recording?  It isn't making them  better 
readers.  Is this just a cover your rear type of  documentation?
 
Help
 
Rosie
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[MOSAIC] Guided Reading

2006-12-28 Thread RR1981
I have never been trained in Guided Reading and having been reading up on  
it.  My question is this-Do the students need to be reading a text that  they 
can read independently?  I teach third grade and am required to use  the 
leveled readers that come with out basal series.  Only problem is that  for 
about 
half my class the lowest level leveled reader is too difficult.   I have one 
child who is capable of reading 44 kindergarten sight words and that  is about 
it!
 
Rosie
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Re: [MOSAIC] Passion . . . long and OT/Lori

2006-12-25 Thread RR1981
 
In a message dated 12/25/2006 12:53:59 AM Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Rosie,
We are both in NC, and I see this as well. Parents  that believe that 
baseball, football, soccer, and dance are more important  than reading! 


It isn't really sports and dance that I see interfering.  Most of my  
students cannot afford these types of activities.  It appears to be just a  
general 
apathy, I believe partly because most of the single parents that I deal  with 
didn't have good school experiences, many didn't finish high school, and  most 
are just tried of providing the basics.  My students live in  poverty, and 
for what ever reason, don't realize that education is the way out,  or don't 
want out.  Many of them live in neighborhoods filled with gangs,  and probably 
have siblings who are gang members.  
 
Rosie
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Re: [MOSAIC] Passion . . . long and OT/Lori

2006-12-24 Thread RR1981
In America we educate everyone, this is not true in other countries.   We 
need to stop comparing ourselves.  Additionally, we need to stop  believing 
that 
if every child doesn't go to college that we have failed.   Not everyone wants 
to go or should go to college.  Our economy cannot  support everyone being 
college educated.  
 
I am not sure what the answer is to getting students at grade level.   I am 
not really a fan of young children attending formal schooling, but so many  of 
my students come unprepared even in kindergarten.  No one has read to  them, 
or helped them to learn what we might consider the basics-things that our  
mothers probably taught us.  
 
Education is really not seen as important by most of my students, and  
frankly by many of their parents.  Some days I feel like I am just showing  up 
for 
myself and no one else. 
 
Rosie
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Re: [MOSAIC] input on basal reader--:(

2006-12-06 Thread RR1981
 
In a message dated 12/6/2006 11:16:43 AM Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

That  said, I would TOTALLY AVOID any highly scripted
program if you can.   We have Houghton Mifflin, and the
kids really seem to like the pieces and  read alouds
that I choose. I also like that there are short
nonfiction  pieces to go with each selection. I opt NOT
to order the practice  workbooks...they are a mindless
waste of time and money IMO.  I use  the anthology many
different ways...shared reading, small  group,
independent assignments.  I truly believe it's how  the
teacher uses it.  (or is allowed to use  it!)



We just adopted Houghton Mifflin this year and we are required to use it  
only, and nothing else.  I do use some of the workbook pages simply because  I 
need to have spelling practice and I need to have students involved in  
something that produces a product for the time when they are not in small  
group 
with me.
 
Most of the stories are okay, I am not a basal fan in general.   
Additionally, I am frustrated with teaching from a third grade basal when the  
vast 
majority of my class reads below grade level.  
 
Rosie
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Re: [MOSAIC] Read180

2006-11-28 Thread RR1981
 
In a message dated 11/27/2006 11:16:33 AM Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

3.   Students placed in the program should fit the profile - this means that 
the  student must be reading at least a 3rd gr. reading level, otherwise 
materials  provided will be too difficult.


I teach third grade, half of my students don't read at grade level.  
 
Roise
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Re: [MOSAIC] Comprehension questions for parents

2006-11-25 Thread RR1981
 
In a message dated 11/24/2006 5:17:27 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Meg,

Go to:
www.madison.k12.wi.us 

Follow:
Programs  and Depts.
All Prog. and Dept.
Lang. Arts


This was a very interesting website.  I noticed that some of your test  
questions are open ended.  We have none of those here in NC.
 
Rosie
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Re: [MOSAIC] want the math booklet??

2006-10-24 Thread RR1981
 
In a message dated 10/23/2006 10:23:59 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

www.readinglady.com/mosaic/tools/tools.htm



I don't see anything about a math booklet at the bottom.  I see  something 
about a Debbie Miller book list.
Am I blind?
Rosie
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Re: [MOSAIC] in support of AR

2006-10-09 Thread RR1981
 
In a message dated 10/9/2006 6:43:18 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I was  glad to see what Laura and Bill had to say about AR. Our district has  
 
had AR for about 10 years. My school gives the kids an hour a day for AR.  


Wow!  Where in the world do you get one hour a day for this?  I  have a 
mandated 120 minute literacy block.  A one hour math block.  30  minutes for 
lunch, 
30 minutes for resource classes and 30 minutes of mandated  recess time.  
That doesn't leave much time for Social  Studies/Science.
 
We are supposed to give the students 30 minutes a day for reading.   Mine 
don't get that much time, and quite honestly most of them can't sit still  that 
long.
 
Rosie
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Re: [MOSAIC] Lesson idea for purpose of reading

2006-10-08 Thread RR1981
 
In a message dated 10/8/2006 4:20:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Why not  ask THEM what the purposes are for reading, and make a chart of   
their responses?


When I asked my students this last year they told me it was to take an AR  
test.
 
Rosie
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Re: [MOSAIC] maybe OT-if so I apologize-independent literacy work

2006-10-08 Thread RR1981
 
In a message dated 10/8/2006 8:55:51 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

As for  
AR, I don't read books because of the level of difficulty, but because I  
want to 
read them.   Sometimes those books are easy children's  books that make me 
laugh or cry, sometimes they are professional books I  don't completely 
understand 
but plow through anyway, and sometimes they  are adult novels that I read 
because they are just plain interesting,  exciting, thought provoking, 
hilarious, 
or intriguing.Adults  don't read on AR levels.   There are no AR levels 
in 
libraries  or bookstores.   How will children ever learn to choose books well 
 if 
they are restricted in making choices?   Oh well.I know I 'm preaching to 
the choir.

I hope you are beginning to  find ways to teach reading that fit with your 
ideas.   Stand up  to your literacy coach with the district framework, 
letting her 
know you  have a right to use novels and tradebooks.
Hang in  there,
Ruby




Ruby,
 
Thanks for the encouragement.  I have been using downlaoded books from  
reading atoz with my lowest group of children.  They are mostly decodeable  
texts 
with word families.  The students love them.  They are quirky  books, and are 
not AR but they have success reading them independently and then  can find 
those word family words in other text.  I have begun teaching  the students 
about making connections text to text,etc.  I am amazed at  some of their 
thinking 
it just doesn't come out on the tests that they  take.  
 
I am a fifth year teacher and I know that eventually I will get it and so  
will the kids.
 
Rosie
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Re: [MOSAIC] Hurray!!!

2006-09-13 Thread RR1981



I am embarrassed to say that the beginning of the school has been so 
stressful that I didn't even realize I hadn't been getting mail from this 
list. 


I apologize!

Rosie
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