Re: Mozilla and Windows Resources
Ben Justice wrote: My mistake, maybe I got Mozilla confused with the Geko engine or something like that. Seems like I read that thing was lean and mean. I just want a non-bulky browser that loads quickly and consumes a minimum of memory. Mail and news if included, should be an optional components! I like to use Pegasus and Xnews respectively. Both free, Xnews is an excellent news reader. Maybe I'll look into Opera. Shame though,if I'm understanding your answer, looks like I'll never really use less resources by choosing an alternate to IE cause IE is running anyway. Might as well just run IE if I'm looking to save resourses -- guess thats what MS intended? -- Bj I'm sure some of us would argue that is exactly what Microsoft intended. You could get around this a bit by using an alternate shell, like LiteStep [http://ls.themes.org], or something similar [can become a hassle though] - and there's always Windows98 Lite [http://www.98lite.net]. Of course, with memory prices like they are, grabbing another 128MB would make your whole computing life easier, and you'd be able to keep Mozilla running in the background with the -turbo switch, which allows it to startup faster than IE, at least on my machine. -bZj
Mozilla doesn't run under Windows 2000
It installs fine, loads the usual splash screen and pops up a window saying Mozilla has generated errors... I don't even know where the log file is. This problem is consistent on 0.9.2 3.
Table rendering problem moz 0.9.3
Using the following table definition shows vertical lines in Mozilla 0.9.3. It works in IE5 and appears to be valid HTML 4. (Note tags removed) table BORDER=1 CELLPADDING=6 CELLSPACING=0 WIDTH=100% ID=T2000 FRAME=box RULES=rows Also after client side javascript to set an alternating BG Color on a row, the lines are of various widths. You can view this by paging down at http://arneb.home.infi.net/phnynj.html Does anyone know if this a Mozilla bug or do I need to change something. Thank You Arn
Re: DISCUSSION: Need *LoRiskHiReward* Keyword for beginner orcasual/occasional contributers
On Sun, 12 Aug 2001, Peter Lairo wrote: I would propose, however, that you morph the mail6 keyword into a *LoRiskHiReward* or *easy2fix* keyword that applies to all Mozilla components. We could at least spell them right. Repeat after me: Low risk high reward Easy to fix Oh, by the way, those two things are completely different. An easy to fix bug (e.g. adding a line to ua.css or changing the wording of an error message) is easy but is not low risk. A wording change is easy but is typically not high reward. -- Ian Hickson )\ _. - ._.) fL Netscape, Standards Compliance QA /. `- ' ( `--' +1 650 937 6593`- , ) - ) \ irc.mozilla.org:Hixie _ (.' \) (.' -' __
Re: DISCUSSION: Need *LoRiskHiReward* Keyword for beginner or casual/occasional contributers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 12 Aug 2001, Peter Lairo wrote: I would propose, however, that you morph the mail6 keyword into a *LoRiskHiReward* or *easy2fix* keyword that applies to all Mozilla components. We could at least spell them right. Repeat after me: Low risk high reward Easy to fix Oh, by the way, those two things are completely different. An easy to fix bug (e.g. adding a line to ua.css or changing the wording of an error message) is easy but is not low risk. A wording change is easy but is typically not high reward. OK, for all the pedantic, anal retentive people who would rather obscure the issue and ridicule those who are trying to improve the system: Let's use the definition of the mail6 keyword and expand it to include all Mozilla components (not just mail). The name of the morphed keyword doesn't have to be what I suggested, it could be something else. The description could include cautionary notes: e.g., seems easy to fix, but could not be after a closer look. If so, please then remove the KW. or whatever we need to get this moving. PS. Ian, maybe you could make a suggestion that I could ridicule without seriously considering its merits :( PPS. Ian, I am sooo glad you found a situation where this keyword might not apply. The exception confirms the rule. PPPS. Insults are the arguments of those who have no arguments. (J.J. Rousseau, schw.-frz. Phil., 1712-1778) -- Regards, Peter Lairo
Re: mozilla times out retreiving list of groups
Seref Arikan wrote: hi, i have the latest rpm relase for redhat, and mozilla just can't get the list of available groups from my usenet server. i am using outlook express under vmware now, and oe, does not have any problem getting the list, so it's not a connection issue .i don't want to use vmware everytime to use usenet, so how can i change the timeout settings for this ? the same problem exists for knode also, i just can't DL the list of available groups.. Regards... Is it just sitting there, pretending to be loading the list or does something else happen? Do you get an error message? If so, what does the dialog say? It works fine for me, so it's not generally horked. We need to be able to reproduce the bug so we can fix it. -- Håkan Waara ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Java Scrip in Mail/News turns itself on.
Asa Dotzler wrote: Al Smith wrote: This has happened in Mozilla milestones, and just today I noticed it in Netscape 6.1. Somehow JavaScript is turning itself on for Main and News. Does anyone know why this is happening? When I download a new milestone or nightly of Mozilla, everything is already turned on after install -- Java, JavaScript, Cookies, and so on. I always turn everything off. But later, when I happen to look in my menus, sometimes JavaScript for Mail and News is turned back on. This is driving me crazy. I'm afraid to use Mozilla or Netscape 6.1 for reading newsgroups because of this weirdness. (Parenthetically, no one should have JavaScript for Mail and News turned on, ever. It shouldn't even *exist* as an option. It's dangerous.) Don't share a profile between Netscape releases and Mozilla nightly or Milestone builds. It's just not a good idea. To fix your problem for Mozilla create a new profile and you shouldn't have any problems. I imagine the same would work for Netscape too. --Asa If this is known and reproducible, it's a very dangerous problem indeed as I can imagine many people using (trying) Mozilla and Netscape6. -- Håkan Waara ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Security Concerns in Mozilla
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 10 Aug 2001, Peter Lairo wrote: PPS. What is important is that the *SPYWARE-ENABLING CODE* should be removed from Mozilla. See bug: http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71270 That's what's known as scare mungering. For your information, this SPYWARE-ENABLING code is know as a native widget. EVERY SINGLE APPLICATION ON YOUR ENTIRE SYSTEM DOES THIS. So what? THIS one is *designed to reveal the visited URLs*, that is what makes THIS one a danger to everyone's privacy (one slice at a time). Oh no! Ring the alarm bells! The user can install a piece of software on his computer which would allow other companies to monitor him with his knowledge and approval! Terrible! Whatever shall we do! It is so easy nowadays to accidentally install software (e.g., user ignorance, viri, piggyback software, Micro$oft) that ANY such program could access the URL list in Mozilla (correct me if I'm wrong) - not just MediaMatrix. There are so many possibilities for unscrupulous companies to access this database (untrue?) of personal information without properly informing the user. When online privacy is so important, and so easily lost; why make it even easier to violate peoples basic right to it? You do realise that HTTP is an insecure protocol, right? Yes, I do. But two wrongs do not make a right. And that EVERY time you visit a website (yes this includes all the porn sites you go to) Oh No! Really? (format C:) ;) that EVERY COMPUTER between you and the remote server knows EXACTLY what URL you visited? Including any passwords you sent? At least it's limited to that session and those servers, not my entire URL list being sent to one (or more) companies (and then maybe sold to who knows else). And your birthdate? Oh my god, that takes the cake (pun intended)! ;) All this hook does is emulate a native widget so that third party applications installed BY THE USER, such as an FTP client, can monitor what web sites you visit. If you are worried by this, why not be worried that, say, Windows IE uses native widgets for their SSL password dialog? Im AM worried about other privacy violations too (alöso M$ IE). Again, two wrongs do not make a right. We should seriously consider the following question: What benefit do we have from providing this information - at this potential cost? -- Regards, Peter Lairo
Re: Security Concerns in Mozilla
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Peter Lairo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes We should seriously consider the following question: What benefit do we have from providing this information - at this potential cost? Another question: how hard is it to get the URL from Mozilla's own widget? Assuming that NS6.x and other suppliers of Mozilla-based browsers get a reasonable market share, then it would be worth the programming time to just get the URL out of the Mozilla widget anyway. -- Rob Allen
Re: GARY R VAN SICKLE BLUSTERS, DIGGERS DEEPER HOLE
Jason Kratz wrote: D'Arcy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message K_Fd7.57109$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:K_Fd7.57109$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I'd say it is pretty clear that Sun had nothing to worry about JDKs criticalness of Java. Anyone whith a bit of sense would know that JTK hadn't done even the smallest amount of research possible to arraive at an informed opinion. One has to wonder then why people still reply to his postings here Because he has a habit of responding to genuine questions by uninformed posters. These responses generally include a stream of lies. If no one responds, the original poster is misled, and the steaming pile of lies ends up stored eternally at Google, with nothing to refute it. Jim S.
Re: mozilla times out retreiving list of groups
hi, it begins to get the list, and the progress bar indicates, say 130 kbs reveived in 2 mins, but after some time, unkown error #somecode# is given with a message box, and i am left with a bunch of groups, which is a very low percentage of all. i've tried oe again under vmware, and it took all the list again. i don't know why, but mozilla is not able get the full list, which i believe is about 30k+ i really liked it, especially with it's modern theme :) but i just can't get the list of my usenet server. thaks for your interest.. Håkan Waara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Seref Arikan wrote: hi, i have the latest rpm relase for redhat, and mozilla just can't get the list of available groups from my usenet server. i am using outlook express under vmware now, and oe, does not have any problem getting the list, so it's not a connection issue .i don't want to use vmware everytime to use usenet, so how can i change the timeout settings for this ? the same problem exists for knode also, i just can't DL the list of available groups.. Regards... Is it just sitting there, pretending to be loading the list or does something else happen? Do you get an error message? If so, what does the dialog say? It works fine for me, so it's not generally horked. We need to be able to reproduce the bug so we can fix it. -- Håkan Waara ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: mozilla times out retreiving list of groups
Ah, now it all makes sense. The unknown error alert is a known bug that I think Seth Spitzer is working on. I don't know if this exact case (using the Subscribe window) is known. Does anyone have a bug# handy? Seref Arikan wrote: hi, it begins to get the list, and the progress bar indicates, say 130 kbs reveived in 2 mins, but after some time, unkown error #somecode# is given with a message box, and i am left with a bunch of groups, which is a very low percentage of all. i've tried oe again under vmware, and it took all the list again. i don't know why, but mozilla is not able get the full list, which i believe is about 30k+ i really liked it, especially with it's modern theme :) but i just can't get the list of my usenet server. thaks for your interest.. Håkan Waara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Seref Arikan wrote: hi, i have the latest rpm relase for redhat, and mozilla just can't get the list of available groups from my usenet server. i am using outlook express under vmware now, and oe, does not have any problem getting the list, so it's not a connection issue .i don't want to use vmware everytime to use usenet, so how can i change the timeout settings for this ? the same problem exists for knode also, i just can't DL the list of available groups.. Regards... Is it just sitting there, pretending to be loading the list or does something else happen? Do you get an error message? If so, what does the dialog say? It works fine for me, so it's not generally horked. We need to be able to reproduce the bug so we can fix it. -- Håkan Waara ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- Håkan Waara ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: DISCUSSION: Need *LoRiskHiReward* Keyword for beginner or casual/occasional contributers
Peter Lairo wrote: OK, for all the pedantic, anal retentive people who would rather obscure the issue and ridicule those who are trying to improve the system: PPPS. Insults are the arguments of those who have no arguments. (J.J. Rousseau, schw.-frz. Phil., 1712-1778) OMG, after all the criticism and harsh word you had for JTKs behavior in these newsgroups a few weeks back, you are behaving just like him. I find interesting that you cite Rousseau when you have been insulting people here calling them ignorants, pedantic, anal, stubborn, crazy,, etc, etc.
Right-click busted in latest nightly
Right-clicking is busted in the latest nightly (build 2001081208). Also, auto-completion has been broken on the trunk for about a week. Has anyone else noticed?
Re: DISCUSSION: Need *LoRiskHiReward* Keyword for beginner or casual/occasional contributers
For example, until ten years or so ago, most of New Zealand had only three TV channels. This allowed the user interface for choosing a channel to be really simple -- my family's TV set, for example, has four buttons, labelled `1' through `4'. Now, however, when many of us have Doh! I just hate it when I run into those extreme cases I like to use in my favour working against me. grin Okay, point conceded. The choices do, in the extreme, have an affect the interface. Go on, then: file an RFE for a Here'sWhatYouNeedToKnowAboutUsingBugzilla keyword. Ack! I'm sure everybody would just LOVE that. grin Such cheat sheets are the hallmark of poor user interface. It's an interesting dilemma. If you put all of the cheat information into the UI then you end up with a wildly unwieldly UI due to its size. Nobody would be able to use if effectively. But if you make a very streamlines UI that's easy to look at you necessarily lose much of the information that would be needed to use it properly. I don't think there's any way of satisfying both requirements at the same time (complete and streamlined). won't cut it, what will? Please offer your own informed contribution to the issue. What should we be doing? In approximate order of importance: Thank you! This was immensely helpful and the first clear indication I've had that there are well thought-out alternatives to the keyword issue that will still help the underlying situation. A completely refreshing change from negative comments without any positives. Of course, you know I had to ask: Is anybody working on implementing these changes to the system? No. All this discussion is evidence of is that Peter Lairo likes adding keywords to bugs. This fact is well-known to anyone who gets a lot of That's not what I've got out of this. Actually, I've learned a lot. Jason.
Re: Right-click busted in latest nightly
JSA wrote: Right-clicking is busted in the latest nightly (build 2001081208). Also, auto-completion has been broken on the trunk for about a week. Has anyone else noticed? http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94990 Clarence
Suggestion for mail on Mozilla/Netscape
In the field chooser there is no option for 'addressee'. When I look at my sent items I can see that I sent all the emails (surprise surprise) but I can't see who I sent them to which can be very useful. Any chance this could be added in? Simon
Re: DISCUSSION: Need *LoRiskHiReward* Keyword for beginner or casual/occasional contributers
Matthew Thomas wrote: Jason Bassford wrote: massive snip No. All this discussion is evidence of is that Peter Lairo likes adding keywords to bugs. This fact is well-known to anyone who gets a lot of bugmail involving the front end of Mozilla, since a noticable proportion of said bugmail is from Peter adding useless or irrelevant keywords to bugs, or (as a special treat) making Additional Comments requesting that someone *else* add such keywords. You are mistaken. I add keywords because I have read the keywords definitions and have concluded that they are appropriate. Maybe in the beginning (6+ months ago) I would add keywords that didn't apply (I've since layed off the nsCatFood one - sorry) because I had misunderstood their meaning. I still believe that if a keyword is appropriate, then it should be used. I challenge you to make a *significant* (everyone makes *occasional* misjudgements) list of erroneous keywords I have added in the last 4 months. Then we will discuss them on the basis of the definitions. You make wild accusations - let's see you back them up! A *LoRiskHiReward* keyword would be especially useful for Peter in two respects. Firstly, it is a very long name for a keyword, so it would help fill up the keyword field and therefore make the bug look important (which is why he adds the keywords in the first place). May your toenails turn purple and start to smell like a russian toilet. I challenge you to produce a list of bugs and keywords I have used that prove this. The list must be long enough as to be representative of the bugs I have filed. I will fight you on this because I think that (appropriate) keywords *should* be used for various purposes. And secondly, it contains two * symbols, which Peter likes using even more than I do. OK, I'll admit to that. Although the *actual* keyword would *not* have those *cute* little *'s ;) Make no mistake: Peter is well-meaning, and I am quite sure that his contributions to Mozilla will eventually outweigh the amount of other people's time he wastes. But at the moment, he's still on the red side of the ledger, and this `DISCUSSION:' has been no exception. It is only wasted because, either you don't understand the definitions of keywords, or the definition are in need of an overhaul (that's YOU again). Either way, I am not aware of any massive misuse of keywords in my bugs. Actually, my plan is to annihilate this commi free-for-all project, Ha Ha H H (now imagine thunder and lightning accompanying my sinister bellowing laughter). Well meaning fools, I will destroy you in the end. Pfew, got that off my chest ;) PS. For the really dense: the annihilation paragraph was not meant seriously. I really do want Mozilla to succeed. ...for now ;) -- Regards, Peter Lairo
Re: DISCUSSION: Need *LoRiskHiReward* Keyword for beginner or casual/occasional contributers
RV wrote: Peter Lairo wrote: OK, for all the pedantic, anal retentive people who would rather obscure the issue and ridicule those who are trying to improve the system: PPPS. Insults are the arguments of those who have no arguments. (J.J. Rousseau, schw.-frz. Phil., 1712-1778) OMG, after all the criticism and harsh word you had for JTKs behavior in these newsgroups a few weeks back, you are behaving just like him. I find interesting that you cite Rousseau when you have been insulting people here calling them ignorants, pedantic, anal, stubborn, crazy,, etc, etc. OMG??? Are you a valley girl? ;) There is a big difference between being direct and firm with someone who is *deliberately disrupting* a group (JTK, in case you are wondering), and being genuinely upset (and expressing it in an emotional way) when people deliberately obscure the issue and ridicule *those who are trying to improve the system*. JTK deserved the harsh treatment - he was here to disrupt. I deserve more respect - I am trying to improve things. I definetely do not deserve to have my ideas ignored and brushed aside with irrelevant and arrogant responses. -- Regards, Peter Lairo
Saving attachments from multiple e-mails
I have just got an e-mail that was split into 33 e-mails, each with part of the attachment I want to extract and join. I originally thought that makeing a mail-box, copying the messages into there and then dragging that to Aladdin Expander would do the job. Since the mail box is now binary I can't do that. I even tried a number of different possibilities in Netscape. Sure I could click on each e-mail, and hit save attachment for each one, but that is rather labourious. Can anyone suggest an easier way? Thanks Andre
Re: GARY VAN SICKLY FOUND OUT, NO LEGAL ACTION COMING
JTK/Gary Van Sickle wrote: [snip] It turns out that the Braemar company he designs heart monitors for, had to recall a bunch of them. They were faulty, and the FDA ordered a recall. The judge will likely order you to correct this yourself, but just for the record, the FDA did not order the recall of the LCDs with stripes on them. We did that voluntarily. Psycho. [snip]
Re: DISCUSSION: Need *LoRiskHiReward* Keyword for beginner or casual/occasional contributers
Peter Lairo wrote: Maybe you're too focused on getting the list smaller at all costs, and therefore refusing to accept even a beneficial new keyword. Low rick and high reward bugs are highly subjective, and a new keyword to further clutter things up is inviting abuse. it is identical to the mail6 keyword! Let's analyze this. You say they're identical, if so, then why duplicate it? We don't need your keyword then. You say they're identical, but who would make a keyword like mail6 mean that the marked bug is a low risk/high reward bug? Where's the logic? They're NOT identical. Using my secret decoder ring, I can tell you that the mail6 keyword is for NS people to track bugs for Netscape 6.x's mail news component. Lastly, you never replied to my statement that low risk/high reward is subjective, thus not easily able to be boiled down to a flag or keyword. -- jesus X [ Booze-fueled paragon of pointless cruelty and wanton sadism. ] email [ jesusx @ who.net ] web [ http://burntelectrons.com ] [ Updated April 29, 2001 ] tag [ The Universe: It's everywhere you want to be. ] warning [ War doesn't determine who is right, war determines who is left. ]
Re: GARY R VAN SICKLE BLUSTERS, DIGGERS DEEPER HOLE
jesus X wrote: D'Arcy Smith wrote: Please don't feed the trolls. Replying to their posts about Mozilla's technical abilitiesis one thing, but this is nowhere near on topic. This just encourages them. :) Rabbi, word to the wise, you do not want to get involved in this pathology. -- Gary JTK Van Sickle
Re: Suggestion for mail on Mozilla/Netscape
This is the same bug as http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85475 I agree it would be nice to see this added. Cheers, Shawn Simon Tompson wrote: In the field chooser there is no option for 'addressee'. When I look at my sent items I can see that I sent all the emails (surprise surprise) but I can't see who I sent them to which can be very useful. Any chance this could be added in? Simon
Re: Right-click busted in latest nightly
Nope, still busted- using build 2001081303. Peter Lairo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... JSA wrote: Right-clicking is busted in the latest nightly (build 2001081208). Also, auto-completion has been broken on the trunk for about a week. Has anyone else noticed? Not on winNT, 2008-08-12 -- Regards, Peter Lairo
Re: Java Scrip in Mail/News turns itself on.
Al Smith wrote: This has happened in Mozilla milestones, and just today I noticed it in Netscape 6.1. Somehow JavaScript is turning itself on for Main and News. Does anyone know why this is happening? When I download a new milestone or nightly of Mozilla, everything is already turned on after install -- Java, JavaScript, Cookies, and so on. I always turn everything off. But later, when I happen to look in my menus, sometimes JavaScript for Mail and News is turned back on. This is driving me crazy. I'm afraid to use Mozilla or Netscape 6.1 for reading newsgroups because of this weirdness. (Parenthetically, no one should have JavaScript for Mail and News turned on, ever. It shouldn't even *exist* as an option. It's dangerous.) Netscape and Mozilla have always had a setting in preferences to allow Javascript in Mail News as well as in the browser. You must be thinking about Active-X. Pure Active-X as MicroSoft implements it is dangerous. Netscape at one time created an Active-X plugin (for Navigator 3). But decided at the time Active-X was more insecure than Java at the time. So development was cancelled. Its My understanding that Mozilla now uses some Active-X but not all the calls and there fore is secure. Javascript has been around for a long time. The only disadvantage of Javascript is that it allows all of those popup advertising boxes that people would like to reach through the line to the author and grab them by the throat. But since much of it pays for internet. we have to live with it. -- -- Phillip M. Jones, CET |MEMBER:VPEA (LIFE) ETA-I, NESDA,ISCET, Sterling 616 Liberty Street|Who's Who. PHONE:540-632-5045, FAX:540-632-0868 Martinsville Va 24112-1809|[EMAIL PROTECTED], ICQ11269732, AIM pjonescet -- If it's fixed, don't break it! mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
JavaScript for PalmOS
For the first time a complete ECMAScript is available for the PalmOS. With this 4.40 release of device Javascript even large scripts can run in very little memory (e.g. Nombas' memory-caching your program requires less than 11K to initialize engine and all ECMA objects, less than 1K to compile a standard script, and few more K for even a large number of objects). You can download and test this shared-library version now: PalmOS SE:ISDK/C version 4.40b (4,290,997 bytes) http://www.nombas.com/us/toolkit/isdkdownload.htm -- Nombas, Inc. 380 Pleasant Street Malden, MA 02148 - USA 1-888-766-6227 toll-free in USA and Canada (+1) 781-388-3970 voice (+1) 781-388-3971 fax
Re: GARY R VAN SICKLE BLUSTERS, DIGGERS DEEPER HOLE
JTK wrote: Rabbi, word to the wise, you do not want to get involved in this pathology. In this set of newsgroups, I don't want ANYONE getting involved. Old wars between you and OffTopicMan should not spill over to here. -- jesus X [ Booze-fueled paragon of pointless cruelty and wanton sadism. ] email [ jesusx @ who.net ] web [ http://burntelectrons.com ] [ Updated April 29, 2001 ] tag [ The Universe: It's everywhere you want to be. ] warning [ War doesn't determine who is right, war determines who is left. ]
java plug-in doesnt work on this site
I dont know if this is the correct place to report this but here it is anyways, If there is a specific place in bugzilla to report this tell me and I will try. this site: http://www.interestratecalculator.com/mortgage/mortgage.html works in netscape and fails in mozilla. I have mozilla .0.9.3 netscape 4.75 win98se I have the java plug-in 1.3.1 netscape navagator. In the about plug-ins netscape reports: npjava32.dll mozilla reports: npoj1600.dll npjava32.dll npjava131.dll npjava12.dll npjava11.dll The java console show:s java.lang.ClassFormatError: mortgage (Local variable name has bad constant pool index) at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass0(Native Method) at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(Unknown Source) at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(Unknown Source) at java.net.URLClassLoader.defineClass(Unknown Source) at java.net.URLClassLoader.access$100(Unknown Source) at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source) at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source) at sun.plugin.security.PluginClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source) at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source) at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadCode(Unknown Source) at sun.applet.AppletPanel.createApplet(Unknown Source) at sun.plugin.AppletViewer.createApplet(Unknown Source) at sun.applet.AppletPanel.runLoader(Unknown Source) at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(Unknown Source) at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
Re: Security Concerns in Mozilla
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Peter Lairo wrote: Greediy companies are not interested in formatting your hard drive or to whom you are sending jucy love leters - there is no profit in that. There IS, however, a large profit in having a *detailed analysis* of peoples browsing habbits. Hence, there IS motivation to ascertain the URLs from Mozilla in sneaky and unethical ways. Except that the address book, and the information in it tying together email addresses, street addresses, names, and various other personal data seems like it would be just as useful a thing to snatch for marketing. Shall we remove the address book, too? It's clearly a significant privacy risk... [Hint: the problem is running *any program that isn't trustworthy*. If you're that paranoid about your privacy, *take the extra time to ensure the programs you install are reliable*, install a firewall, and various other measures. Don't come crying here about some vast spyware conspiracy.] -- Chris Hoess
Re: Security Concerns in Mozilla
Chris Hoess wrote: Except that the address book, and the information in it tying together email addresses, street addresses, names, and various other personal data seems like it would be just as useful a thing to snatch for marketing. Shall we remove the address book, too? It's clearly a significant privacy risk... You can avoid writing such details in addressbook (actually I think most people never bothers). You cannot avoid opening URLs if you want to see the Web pages. So there is a workaround for the address book problem but not for the spyware problem. Jacek
Re: Mozilla 0.93 - Doesn't work on most forms?
On Sun, 12 Aug 2001 23:54:28 -0500, Jerry Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my experience, 0.9.3 is the first version to handle forms well. Prior to this version, I was experiencing parts of forms disappearing, buttons overlayed over other buttons, etc. For me, Mozilla 0.9.3 has been a complete disaster. It cased Agent to start crashing with Access violations, it doesn't work on half of the pages I visit, in associating itself with website callsand the uninstall routine choked on me until I installed Mozilla over itself and uninstalled it again. I had high hopes for Mozilla. I'll try again when it has gone through a few more revisions, I guess. Erik Harris eharris1@rocheste$.$$.com http://w3.to/erikICQ: 2610172 Chinese Martial Arts Assoc @ Cornell: http://w3.to/CMAAC/ To avoid Spam-bots, my address at the top is INCORRECT. Change each dollar sign to an r.
Re: Mozilla doesn't run under Windows 2000
On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 09:24:06 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: It installs fine, loads the usual splash screen and pops up a window saying Mozilla has generated errors... I don't even know where the log file is. This problem is consistent on 0.9.2 3. The error file should be in your Documents and Settings directory, in the All Users subdirectory, and in Documents/DrWatson. Erik Harris eharris1@rocheste$.$$.com http://w3.to/erikICQ: 2610172 Chinese Martial Arts Assoc @ Cornell: http://w3.to/CMAAC/ To avoid Spam-bots, my address at the top is INCORRECT. Change each dollar sign to an r.
Re: DISCUSSION: Need *LoRiskHiReward* Keyword for beginner or casual/occasional contributers
Peter Lairo wrote: RV wrote: Peter Lairo wrote: OK, for all the pedantic, anal retentive people who would rather obscure the issue and ridicule those who are trying to improve the system: PPPS. Insults are the arguments of those who have no arguments. (J.J. Rousseau, schw.-frz. Phil., 1712-1778) OMG, after all the criticism and harsh word you had for JTKs behavior in these newsgroups a few weeks back, you are behaving just like him. I find interesting that you cite Rousseau when you have been insulting people here calling them ignorants, pedantic, anal, stubborn, crazy,, etc, etc. OMG??? Are you a valley girl? ;) There is a big difference between being direct and firm with someone who is *deliberately disrupting* a group (JTK, in case you are wondering), and being genuinely upset (and expressing it in an emotional way) when people deliberately obscure the issue and ridicule *those who are trying to improve the system*. JTK deserved the harsh treatment - he was here to disrupt. I deserve more respect - I am trying to improve things. I definetely do not deserve to have my ideas ignored and brushed aside with irrelevant and arrogant responses. First and foremost, perspective is king! ;-) Perhaps JTK thinks that his tactics are a way to improve things (perhaps not, but you would have to admit that certain kinds of dementia can provide this kind of thinking). You don't think he was. Therefore he deserves harsh treatment. You think that you are trying to improve things. Therefore you deserve respect. Perspective. In my *opinion* (please note that last word), you already had the respect you wanted. Your idea was considered, discussed, and eventually it was decided that your idea wouldn't be implemented at this time. Again, IMO, you've now moved beyond the point of being helpful to being disruptive. You've asked for your idea to be considered. It was. You didn't like the answer, which is natural, and in response, you've started calling people names and become disruptive. That'll just damage your credibility down the road should you propose something else. You've already said you aren't a programmer. Well then, what kind of interface design experience do you have? Have you been involved in any usability studies? Do you have any training in Project Management? This argument reminds me of a guy who knows nothing about cars that takes a car to a mechanic, tells the mechanic what's wrong with the car and how to fix it, then argues when the mechanic says that he's wrong. Justin H. -- I don't know all the certain words to word it. -Vanilla Ice on why his autobiography had a ghostwriter
Re: DISCUSSION: Need *LoRiskHiReward* Keyword for beginner or casual/occasional contributers
Jason Bassford wrote: first thing I'd recommend is getting to know some of the other Mac developers on the project. Check out the netscape.public.mozilla.mac newsgroup and maybe introduce yourself there. If you haven't already, start downloading daily Fizzilla builds ...and more instructions. That's more like it! Now, rather than having to reply like this to everybody that asks you on a case by case basis, do as I suggested and create an QA document. (If it grows large enough it can become an FAQ.) Start by copying and pasting this into it. Case by case basis works just fine. When I can't communicate with individuals about their specific needs because there are too many new contributors to handle I'm sure I'll create some documents to save myself that time. In the mean time I like to communicate in specifics rather than with boilerplate cut and paste text. In case it wasn't obvious, I tried to respond to your needs rather than some hypothetical newbie archetype. --Asa
Re: Security Concerns in Mozilla
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jacek Piskozub wrote: You can avoid writing such details in addressbook (actually I think most people never bothers). You cannot avoid opening URLs if you want to see the Web pages. Good point. But the spyware can still slurp up the profiles directory and use that, yes? The information from a history may not be quite as useful and a bit more difficult to extract, but that can all be handled server-side. So there is a workaround for the address book problem but not for the spyware problem. I assume you meant URL bar problem, but you're more right than you think. ;) Frankly, this is starting to remind me of the periodic c.i.w.a.h discussions of Can I keep people from seeing my source, wherein people use progressively more clever and obfuscated Javascript and other solutions to try to work around a basic principle: data that you send to a client will be available to the client-you can't *make* it be processed. This strikes me as doing the same thing: people are insisting that the hidden widget be removed so that evil malicious software running on their computers can't snarf the URLs they're browsing to. Again, you're trying to prevent some programming running as root (I assume we're in a Win 9.x environment here) from getting data it wants in the system. Making Mozilla cleverer at hiding data is pretty clearly a stopgap solution; the solution is installing a personal firewall to keep the evil malicious software from sending back data. All removing the widget will do is give people a false sense of security. -- Chris Hoess
Re: Security Concerns in Mozilla
Asa Dotzler wrote: Every other browser you have ever installed keeps the URL in a native field. Mozilla isn't doing anything different from any other browser. A pity. I would like Mozilla to do better than other browser :-( Jacek
Re: DISCUSSION: Need *LoRiskHiReward* Keyword for beginner orcasual/occasional contributers
On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, Peter Lairo wrote: Let's use the definition of the mail6 keyword and expand it to include all Mozilla components (not just mail). The name of the morphed keyword doesn't have to be what I suggested, it could be something else. The description could include cautionary notes: e.g., seems easy to fix, but could not be after a closer look. If so, please then remove the KW. or whatever we need to get this moving. I (and others) have exactly the same issues with mail6 as we would with your proposed keyword(s). PS. Ian, maybe you could make a suggestion that I could ridicule without seriously considering its merits :( If the problem you are trying to solve is how do we get more people contributing good quality code then the answer is for these potential people to do exactly what almost every other contributor has done: Start off by helping with the QA and bug triage of an area that the new contributor is interested in until the new contributor is familiar with the bugs in that area, and then let the new contributor start reading the source code and poking at it until they are familiar with that too. Our codebase is *huge*. There is no way someone can jump in, fix a bug, and jump out without spending DAYS if not WEEKS or MONTHS studying the project. I'm sorry, it just can't be done. Those that have tried to fix bugs without knowing the code well enough have quickly found that what they thought was low risk was instead to become a smoketest blocker; those that have submitted patches without learning the bugs in an area have quickly been corrected by our reviewers and super reviewers. To contribute to a project this big requires time. A lot of time. This is just a fact of life. If you really want to help, what we need is documentation, to make the learning curve easier. Keywords are not going to help. PPS. Ian, I am sooo glad you found a situation where this keyword might not apply. The exception confirms the rule. I have yet to find a situation where your keyword *does* apply. PPPS. Insults are the arguments of those who have no arguments. (J.J. Rousseau, schw.-frz. Phil., 1712-1778) I hope you find this post more useful then. -- Ian Hickson )\ _. - ._.) fL Netscape, Standards Compliance QA /. `- ' ( `--' +1 650 937 6593`- , ) - ) \ irc.mozilla.org:Hixie _ (.' \) (.' -' __
Re: how do I move my mail files?
Peter Lairo wrote: So when we import bananas from Israel, they start out as square bananas and arrive as round bananas. Yes, and when I boot my Windows machine, it falls off the desk and I bruise my toe. We're not talking about international trade; we're talking about computer software. Context is key. Michael
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Re: Table rendering problem moz 0.9.3
Bernd Mielke wrote: Please read http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41262 and the whole dependency tree. Bernd Bernd Thanks for the pointer. Arn
Problem with UBB-based sites
Ever since day one, Mozilla has had a problem with the cookies used on Ultimate Bulletin Board (http://www.infopop.com) based websites. Has anybody else noticed this? Two forums I use on a regular basis are http://www.avsforum.com and http://www.kusat.com. When using either site, I am unable to track new postings- each time I visit, all forums are displayed as having new postings and once I enter the forums, they show no postings. This is definitely not a problem with the sites in question as Internet Explorer (all versions capable of handling cookies) behaves correctly. To me, it appears that Mozilla does not accept/store the cookies. (Yes, I do have Enable All Cookies checked in the Preferences. Can anybody shed any light? Thanks, Mike.
Re: DISCUSSION: Need *LoRiskHiReward* Keyword for beginner orcasual/occasional contributers
On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, JTK wrote:
Ian Hickson wrote:
On Mon, 13 Aug 2001, Peter Lairo wrote:
Let's use the definition of the mail6 keyword and expand it to include
all Mozilla components (not just mail). The name of the morphed keyword
doesn't have to be what I suggested, it could be something else. The
description could include cautionary notes: e.g., seems easy to fix,
but could not be after a closer look. If so, please then remove the KW.
or whatever we need to get this moving.
I (and others) have exactly the same issues with mail6 as we would with
your proposed keyword(s).
So the mail6 keyword is going bye-bye, right?
Right? I mean, AOL is not running the show at Mozilla, right?
The 'mail6' keyword, like the 'ns*' keywords, are provided by Mozilla for
use by one of Mozilla's main contributors. If any other organisation wants
keywords for their use, then they are welcome to have them. For example
Adobe ('acrobat'), Macromedia ('flash' and 'shockwave'), OEOne ('oeone'),
Real ('realplayer'), and Zope ('zopestudio') all have keywords of their
own. The 'mail*' and 'relnote*' keywords, like some of the others
mentioned above, were created before the popularity of keywords became
apparent, and therefore before prefixes (like 'ns') were added to new
keywords. They should probably be updated or removed, if they are no
longer in use.
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Re: Capital One's web site
Bob Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 13 Aug 2001: I use the web site and have to switch browsers. So if you need people to complain etc, to get capitol one to support the browser tell me or post to this thread. I have also heard that you can spoof the browser so mozilla tells the site(capitol one) that it is ie or ns4.7 or whatever. You might want to try this and see if you have any problems. bob I can't successfully get Mozilla to spoof being a different browser anymore (the line in prefs.js has no affect), but back when it did if I spoofed Moz as IE 5.5 it worked fine -- ICQ: 123728792 AIM: FlyersR1 9 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ = m
Re: java plug-in doesnt work on this site
I thought when I dl'ed the jre before I was using mozilla that it was supposed to replace the jre that navigator used. In fact I see the plug-ins in the navigator plug-in directory. How do I verify which jre version netscape is running? How did you do it? thanks bob Pratik wrote: This seems to be a problem in the applet not Mozilla. Fact, Mozilla uses JDK1.3, Netscape 4.75 uses an older JDK (I checked on my machine and NS 4.72 on linux uses 1.1.5). Apparently something that worked in 1.1.5 is no longer working in 1.3. :(. Ask the webmaster to do something about it. - Pratik. Bob Davis wrote: I dont know if this is the correct place to report this but here it is anyways, If there is a specific place in bugzilla to report this tell me and I will try. this site: http://www.interestratecalculator.com/mortgage/mortgage.html works in netscape and fails in mozilla. I have mozilla .0.9.3 netscape 4.75 win98se I have the java plug-in 1.3.1 netscape navagator. In the about plug-ins netscape reports: npjava32.dll mozilla reports: npoj1600.dll npjava32.dll npjava131.dll npjava12.dll npjava11.dll The java console show:s java.lang.ClassFormatError: mortgage (Local variable name has bad constant pool index) at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass0(Native Method) at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(Unknown Source) at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(Unknown Source) at java.net.URLClassLoader.defineClass(Unknown Source) at java.net.URLClassLoader.access$100(Unknown Source) at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source) at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source) at sun.plugin.security.PluginClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source) at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source) at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadCode(Unknown Source) at sun.applet.AppletPanel.createApplet(Unknown Source) at sun.plugin.AppletViewer.createApplet(Unknown Source) at sun.applet.AppletPanel.runLoader(Unknown Source) at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(Unknown Source) at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
Re: java plug-in doesnt work on this site
I thought when I dl'ed the jre before I was using mozilla that it was supposed to replace the jre that navigator used. In fact I see the plug-ins in the navigator plug-in directory. How do I verify which jre version netscape is running? How did you do it? thanks bob Pratik wrote: This seems to be a problem in the applet not Mozilla. Fact, Mozilla uses JDK1.3, Netscape 4.75 uses an older JDK (I checked on my machine and NS 4.72 on linux uses 1.1.5). Apparently something that worked in 1.1.5 is no longer working in 1.3. :(. Ask the webmaster to do something about it. - Pratik. Bob Davis wrote: I dont know if this is the correct place to report this but here it is anyways, If there is a specific place in bugzilla to report this tell me and I will try. this site: http://www.interestratecalculator.com/mortgage/mortgage.html works in netscape and fails in mozilla. I have mozilla .0.9.3 netscape 4.75 win98se I have the java plug-in 1.3.1 netscape navagator. In the about plug-ins netscape reports: npjava32.dll mozilla reports: npoj1600.dll npjava32.dll npjava131.dll npjava12.dll npjava11.dll The java console show:s java.lang.ClassFormatError: mortgage (Local variable name has bad constant pool index) at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass0(Native Method) at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(Unknown Source) at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(Unknown Source) at java.net.URLClassLoader.defineClass(Unknown Source) at java.net.URLClassLoader.access$100(Unknown Source) at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source) at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source) at sun.plugin.security.PluginClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source) at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source) at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadCode(Unknown Source) at sun.applet.AppletPanel.createApplet(Unknown Source) at sun.plugin.AppletViewer.createApplet(Unknown Source) at sun.applet.AppletPanel.runLoader(Unknown Source) at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(Unknown Source) at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
Re: DISCUSSION: Need *LoRiskHiReward* Keyword for beginner or casual/occasional contributers
Peter Lairo wrote: Actually, my plan is to annihilate this commi free-for-all project, Ha Ha H H (now imagine thunder and lightning accompanying my sinister bellowing laughter). Well meaning fools, I will destroy you in the end. Sounds like JTK to me
Re: java plug-in doesnt work on this site
Bob Davis wrote: I thought when I dl'ed the jre before I was using mozilla that it was supposed to replace the jre that navigator used. In fact I see the plug-ins in the navigator plug-in directory. How do I verify which jre version netscape is running? How did you do it? thanks bob Pratik wrote: This seems to be a problem in the applet not Mozilla. Fact, Mozilla uses JDK1.3, Netscape 4.75 uses an older JDK (I checked on my machine and NS 4.72 on linux uses 1.1.5). Apparently something that worked in 1.1.5 is no longer working in 1.3. :(. Ask the webmaster to do something about it. - Pratik. Bob Davis wrote: I dont know if this is the correct place to report this but here it is anyways, If there is a specific place in bugzilla to report this tell me and I will try. this site: http://www.interestratecalculator.com/mortgage/mortgage.html works in netscape and fails in mozilla. I have mozilla .0.9.3 netscape 4.75 win98se I have the java plug-in 1.3.1 netscape navagator. In the about plug-ins netscape reports: npjava32.dll mozilla reports: npoj1600.dll npjava32.dll npjava131.dll npjava12.dll npjava11.dll The java console show:s java.lang.ClassFormatError: mortgage (Local variable name has bad constant pool index) at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass0(Native Method) at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(Unknown Source) at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(Unknown Source) at java.net.URLClassLoader.defineClass(Unknown Source) at java.net.URLClassLoader.access$100(Unknown Source) at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source) at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source) at sun.plugin.security.PluginClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source) at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source) at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadCode(Unknown Source) at sun.applet.AppletPanel.createApplet(Unknown Source) at sun.plugin.AppletViewer.createApplet(Unknown Source) at sun.applet.AppletPanel.runLoader(Unknown Source) at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(Unknown Source) at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source) Of course, about:plugins would tell you as well. Gus
Re: DISCUSSION: Need *LoRiskHiReward* Keyword for beginner or casual/occasional contributers
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], RV says... Peter Lairo wrote: Actually, my plan is to annihilate this commi free-for-all project, Ha Ha H H (now imagine thunder and lightning accompanying my sinister bellowing laughter). Well meaning fools, I will destroy you in the end. Sounds like JTK to me Jesus Identity-Crisis Christ, does *everybody* want to be me?!?! -- Gary JTK Van Sickle
Re: java plug-in doesnt work on this site
Bob Davis wrote: I thought when I dl'ed the jre before I was using mozilla that it was supposed to replace the jre that navigator used. In fact I see the plug-ins in the navigator plug-in directory. How do I verify which jre version netscape is running? How did you do it? thanks bob Pratik wrote: This seems to be a problem in the applet not Mozilla. Fact, Mozilla uses JDK1.3, Netscape 4.75 uses an older JDK (I checked on my machine and NS 4.72 on linux uses 1.1.5). Apparently something that worked in 1.1.5 is no longer working in 1.3. :(. Ask the webmaster to do something about it. - Pratik. Bob Davis wrote: I dont know if this is the correct place to report this but here it is anyways, If there is a specific place in bugzilla to report this tell me and I will try. this site: http://www.interestratecalculator.com/mortgage/mortgage.html works in netscape and fails in mozilla. I have mozilla .0.9.3 netscape 4.75 win98se I have the java plug-in 1.3.1 netscape navagator. In the about plug-ins netscape reports: npjava32.dll mozilla reports: npoj1600.dll npjava32.dll npjava131.dll npjava12.dll npjava11.dll The java console show:s java.lang.ClassFormatError: mortgage (Local variable name has bad constant pool index) at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass0(Native Method) at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(Unknown Source) at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(Unknown Source) at java.net.URLClassLoader.defineClass(Unknown Source) at java.net.URLClassLoader.access$100(Unknown Source) at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source) at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source) at sun.plugin.security.PluginClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source) at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source) at sun.applet.AppletClassLoader.loadCode(Unknown Source) at sun.applet.AppletPanel.createApplet(Unknown Source) at sun.plugin.AppletViewer.createApplet(Unknown Source) at sun.applet.AppletPanel.runLoader(Unknown Source) at sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(Unknown Source) at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source) You can go here: http://www.gemal.dk/browserspy/javajava.html and let Java tell you which Java Version you are using. Gus
Re: Mozilla and Windows 2000
Mike There''s a nug report on this error. It relates to earlier versions of Mozilla being left on the machine. Also comes up when you're trying to send forms. Try a complete uninstall and reinstall. Works fine on Win 2k here - once I did that. Jerry Baker wrote: Mike Koenecke wrote: > > On or about Wed, 01 Aug 2001 07:26:12 -0500, Jay Garcia > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> allegedly wrote: > > >Mike Koenecke wrote: > >> Having just loaded Windows 2000 on my machine: does everyone else get > >> a couple of error messages when Mozilla first runs? > >> > > > >What error messages?? Please be more specific. > > I'll try, but I'll have to write them down and get back to you. Agent > won't run at all under Windows 2000, so I have to switch SCSI boot > disks and use Windows 98 to read newsgroups, and Mozilla works fine in > Windows 98. > -- > Mike Koenecke > to reply, change "nowhere" to "home" Agent works fine here under Win2k Adv Server and Professional (Agent 1.8). -- Jerry Baker PGP Key: http://keyserver.pgp.com/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x48D96D45 LAME MP3 Encoder Binaries: http://www.jerrybaker.org/lame/ Apache 2.0 Web server Installer: http://www.jerrybaker.org/apache/ -- Amprop Services, LLC You are invited to view our portfolio of quality homes: http://www.homes4lease.com/list.htm
Automatic Installs of Netscape 6 Plugins
Can anyone help me please. I wish to find out the correct method of installing a plugin DLL and XPT file when an HTML page comes up requesting a plugin. In the past and during the testing phase I have placed the plugin DLL and XPT file directly into the components directory, and running the regxpcom application. We wish now to be able to automatically do this from an installation CDROM. What is the process of implementing the plugin DLL and XPT files? Can this be obtained from a JAR file stored on a CDROM or from a location where the relevant files can be placed. Would be very grateful if someone could advise me. Regards Patrick McHale Powerlan New Zealand.
Netscape 4.x SmartUpdate packages supported by Netscape 6?
(I posted some questions in this vein in netscape.devs-plugins earlier today, but upon further examination, it looks to me like that newsgroup is for Netscape 4.x questions, whereas I've got Netscape 6 questions. so I'm reposting here.) I have a SmartUpdate installer which works in Netscape 4.x. It invokes an EXE which does the actual installation. The general question is, how, if at all, can I make this SmartUpdate installer work with Netscape 6? Some specific questions and points that I'd like to see clarified: * Netscape 4.x recognizes a SmartUpdate JAR archive when you download a file with the MIME type application/java-archive. Netscape 6 doesn't. * SmartUpdate JAR files are digitally signed, but apparently XPI files are not. If SmartUpdate isn't supported, how do I do a signed installer for Netscape 6? * If I simply repackage my JAR file as a XPI file, will the install.js in it work in Netscape 6? It use netscape.softupdate.VersionInfo and netscape.softupdate.SoftwareUpdate objects as documented in the Netscape 4.x documentation for creating installation packages. A call to netscape.softupdate.SoftwareUpdate.Execute is what runs the installer EXE that's inside the JAR file. * What's the official way in Netscape 6 of figuring out the Netscape plugins directory (so my EXE can install the Netscape plugin in the right place)? * Has anybody written a document for people who had previously developed SmartUpdate installers, explaining how SmartUpdate compares to XPI and how to migrate from the former to the latter? I have directed followups to this message to netscape.public.mozilla.xpinstall. I hope that's the right place even though I'm not asking solely about XPI. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.
