MySQL commercial licence
Folks, We have a commercial product that uses mysql 4.0.24. We bought a commercial licence for this version. We want to upgrade to 5.0.21. I spoke with the MySQL saleswoman this morning and she says they don't do upgrades and want another entire licence fee for v5.x. Does anyone else have experience of this? Upgrading commercial licences? What's the story? Thanks - Adam -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MySQL commercial licence
Adam Lipscombe wrote: Folks, We have a commercial product that uses mysql 4.0.24. We bought a commercial licence for this version. We want to upgrade to 5.0.21. I spoke with the MySQL saleswoman this morning and she says they don't do upgrades and want another entire licence fee for v5.x. Does anyone else have experience of this? Upgrading commercial licences? What's the story? Thanks - Adam Hi Adam, That is a very interesting development. Is your license under the MySQL Network? I am considering using this for a number of new servers and would have to rethink my strategy if this is the case. I notice their Network FAQ has Q: Does MySQL Network include MySQL 5.0? A: Yes, MySQL Network includes all updates and upgrades including MySQL 5.0 It is also very interesting that the Network product automatically includes a GPL covered product rather than a commercial one by default. How many people actually check on that before purchase? Are they aware they have purchased a GPL product and are now obligated under that license to GPL their distributed products? Regards -- David Logan South Australia when in trouble, or in doubt run in circles, scream and shout -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Checking. I don't think the customer bought the network version. Apparently its MySQL Pro Licence V4. It's a bit rich not to offer upgrades at a discount IMO. Adam -Original Message- From: David Logan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 May 2006 11:52 To: Adam Lipscombe Cc: 'MySQL List' Subject: Re: MySQL commercial licence Adam Lipscombe wrote: Folks, We have a commercial product that uses mysql 4.0.24. We bought a commercial licence for this version. We want to upgrade to 5.0.21. I spoke with the MySQL saleswoman this morning and she says they don't do upgrades and want another entire licence fee for v5.x. Does anyone else have experience of this? Upgrading commercial licences? What's the story? Thanks - Adam Hi Adam, That is a very interesting development. Is your license under the MySQL Network? I am considering using this for a number of new servers and would have to rethink my strategy if this is the case. I notice their Network FAQ has Q: Does MySQL Network include MySQL 5.0? A: Yes, MySQL Network includes all updates and upgrades including MySQL 5.0 It is also very interesting that the Network product automatically includes a GPL covered product rather than a commercial one by default. How many people actually check on that before purchase? Are they aware they have purchased a GPL product and are now obligated under that license to GPL their distributed products? Regards -- David Logan South Australia when in trouble, or in doubt run in circles, scream and shout -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Not particularly. You're not buying an upgrade, you're buying a license for a new product. You can use MySQL all you want for free, you just can't repackage or embed it without a license. I don't see it as an upgrade issue really. You'll want to rewrite many queries, add new features, etc to get the full benefits of MySQL 5.0. You're making another product. A bit rich is what I'd call Oracle's licensing fees. Just remember, the money's paying developers to make the product better -Sheeri On 5/12/06, Adam Lipscombe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Checking. I don't think the customer bought the network version. Apparently its MySQL Pro Licence V4. It's a bit rich not to offer upgrades at a discount IMO. Adam -Original Message- From: David Logan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 May 2006 11:52 To: Adam Lipscombe Cc: 'MySQL List' Subject: Re: MySQL commercial licence Adam Lipscombe wrote: Folks, We have a commercial product that uses mysql 4.0.24. We bought a commercial licence for this version. We want to upgrade to 5.0.21. I spoke with the MySQL saleswoman this morning and she says they don't do upgrades and want another entire licence fee for v5.x. Does anyone else have experience of this? Upgrading commercial licences? What's the story? Thanks - Adam Hi Adam, That is a very interesting development. Is your license under the MySQL Network? I am considering using this for a number of new servers and would have to rethink my strategy if this is the case. I notice their Network FAQ has Q: Does MySQL Network include MySQL 5.0? A: Yes, MySQL Network includes all updates and upgrades including MySQL 5.0 It is also very interesting that the Network product automatically includes a GPL covered product rather than a commercial one by default. How many people actually check on that before purchase? Are they aware they have purchased a GPL product and are now obligated under that license to GPL their distributed products? Regards -- David Logan South Australia when in trouble, or in doubt run in circles, scream and shout -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where to get a mysql licence
Hello. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bungarz, Kai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! I wonder, where i can get answers about mysql licences. Does anybody know an adress to contact to? Best regards, Kai http://www.wido.de -- For technical support contracts, goto https://order.mysql.com/?ref=ensita This email is sponsored by Ensita.NET http://www.ensita.net/ __ ___ ___ __ / |/ /_ __/ __/ __ \/ /Gleb Paharenko / /|_/ / // /\ \/ /_/ / /__ [EMAIL PROTECTED] /_/ /_/\_, /___/\___\_\___/ MySQL AB / Ensita.NET ___/ www.mysql.com -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
where to get a mysql licence
Hi! I wonder, where i can get answers about mysql licences. Does anybody know an adress to contact to? Best regards, Kai http://www.wido.de -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I wonder, where i can get answers about mysql licences. Does anybody know an adress to contact to? Best regards, www.mysql.com ? With regards, Martijn Tonies Database Workbench - developer tool for InterBase, Firebird, MySQL MS SQL Server Upscene Productions http://www.upscene.com -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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At 08:48 AM 3/10/2005, Bungarz, Kai wrote: Hi! I wonder, where i can get answers about mysql licences. Does anybody know an adress to contact to? Best regards, Kai http://www.wido.de I might be wrong, but shouldn't the first place you look be the mysql.com site? Sounds logical to me anyway. Steve -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Licence
Hello, I am developing an application that will remotely access a MySQL database hosted on Interland ISP servers. This application will be sold to the users without sharing the source code. The .exe file is build using the LIBMYSQL.LIB library and, when sold, will have to be accompanied by the LIBMYSQL.DLL file for proper functioning. Should our company has to buy a licence for this? Should our users, after buying the application, for using it, because it has included the LIBMYSQL.DLL file, have to buy a licence? Thanks! -- Best regards, Alexandru mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Commercial Licence
I want to run a commercial product based on MySQL. I have one centralized server running MySQL in replication mode (master server). I have five clients running MySQL (each slave is running one MySQL daemon). Do I have to acquire only one commercial licence for my master server or do I have do get commercail licence for master and slave. Thanks in advance. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Dear Pierre, I would suggest you to contact directly MySQL AB for such a question at [EMAIL PROTECTED] My guess is that you will need to buy a license for the master and the slaves. Regards, Bernard On Wednesday 10 March 2004 03:19, Pierre Luguern wrote: I want to run a commercial product based on MySQL. I have one centralized server running MySQL in replication mode (master server). I have five clients running MySQL (each slave is running one MySQL daemon). Do I have to acquire only one commercial licence for my master server or do I have do get commercail licence for master and slave. Thanks in advance. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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If those servers are yours, it sounds to me that you can run it GPL. Read this: http://www.mysql.com/doc/en/Using_the_MySQL_software_for_free_under_GPL.html Stephen - Original Message - From: Pierre Luguern [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 7:19 PM Subject: Commercial Licence I want to run a commercial product based on MySQL. I have one centralized server running MySQL in replication mode (master server). I have five clients running MySQL (each slave is running one MySQL daemon). Do I have to acquire only one commercial licence for my master server or do I have do get commercail licence for master and slave. Thanks in advance. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Good Day All, Let me attempt to provide some clarity on this issues (though it is important to note that I am not a lawyer or a judge.) The fundaments of the GPL are easy to understand. The GPL operates within standard copyright law. Under copyright law[0], the copyright holder has a bundle of rights related to their work. These rights including the right to control the copying, modification and distribution of their work. The holder can keep these right or they can grant others some or all of the rights as well. If they grant others rights to their work, they usually do so under the terms of a license. The GPL is one such license. It gives you the right to copy, modify and distribute the work as long as you follow some conditions. The important conditions for this discussion are: * You must distribute (or at least make available) the source code for the software. * If you form a derivative work with GPL licensed software, then the resulting work should also be GPL licensed. [1] Derivative work is a term from US copyright law (though most copyright laws have some similar concept). A derivative work is a work that is based in whole or in part on another work. There are no fixed rules on determining when a derivative work is formed. In some cases, it is very clear. If I were to modify GCC by changing a few constant names, it would certainly be a derivative work. If I had a program that used a database abstraction layer to allow it to communicate with a broad class of databases, maybe I would not be forming a derivative work with any of the databases. If I used an abstraction layer to specifically avoid creating a derivative work, but my product was intended to only work with one database, then it would be a different situation again. The technical process used (linking methods, abstraction layers, communication layers, ...) cannot be the only determining factor of whether a derivative work is or is not formed. If it were, then it would allow software licenses (both free and non-free) to be easily circumvented. Instead the end intent of the action must be taken into account. A good analogy for this is the case of someone dying due to someone else's actions. Consider the following cases: I drop a heavy potted plant on David. (He has a great comics collection that I covet. ;) I ask Mark to drop a heavy potted plant out the window, but I don't tell him that David will likely be killed by this. Mark falls out of the window because the plant is really heavy. David shoots Marks because he thinks that he is going to drop a potted plant on him. Which of the above is murder? Who is responsible? It really depends on how much is known about each situation. If David shoots Mark, and Mark is the only person who knew that I asked him to drop the plant out the window, then I would seem to be innocent (unless I was recorded urging Mark to drop the pot or I confessed). The context that an event occurs in has a tremendous effect on how it is perceived. My view on this issue are quite simple: If you are willing to pass on the rights that we grant you under the GPL, then please use MySQL under the GPL. If you do not want to pass on these rights then you should purchase a commercial license. In many ways, MySQL behaves like a typical Free Software/Open Source developer. We write software that we place under an open license. We also sell services and software so that we can make money. It just so happens that the same software that we put under an open license is the same software that we sell. [0] Note that different countries have different copyright laws. The exact bundle of rights and how they are protected vary from country to country. [1] A relevant section of the GPL is section 2b: 2. You may modify your copy or copies of the Program or any portion of it, thus forming a work based on the Program, and copy and distribute such modifications or work under the terms of Section 1 above, provided that you also meet all of these conditions: ... b) You must cause any work that you distribute or publish, that in whole or in part contains or is derived from the Program or any part thereof, to be licensed as a whole at no charge to all third parties under the terms of this License. Cheers! -- Zak Greant MySQL AB Community Advocate -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Does this mean that I must make all of my web sites non-commercial? (since I use mySQL as my main DBMS) This was sarcastic, not real question aiming the next sentence MySQL You need a license if you sell a product designed specifically for use with MySQL or that requires the MySQL server to function at all. This is true whether or not you provide MySQL for your client as part of your product distribution. If I get GPLicensed mySQL I can distribute it (according to GPL) with my commercial (even non GPL) product or with anything I like if I don't merge it with my project or similar which is mentioned in GPL. Ivan -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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You need a license if you sell a product designed specifically for use with MySQL or that requires the MySQL server to function at all. This is true whether or not you provide MySQL for your client as part of your product distribution. Does this mean that I must make all of my web sites non-commercial? (since I use mySQL as my main DBMS) This part is surely not covered by GPL. Especially because GPL doesn't cover commercial aspect of software. GPL Our General Public Licenses are designed to make sure that you GPL have the freedom to distribute copies of free software GPL (and charge for this service if you wish), According to this I can even redistribute mySQL under the terms of GPL and even to get money from such business. Which doesn't comply with the text from the mySQL's website... Ivan -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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You need a license if you sell a product designed specifically for use with MySQL or that requires the MySQL server to function at all. This is true whether or not you provide MySQL for your client as part of your product distribution. Does this mean that I must make all of my web sites non-commercial? (since I use mySQL as my main DBMS) I believe no, if it is your company's web site and your clients (along with other web surfers) are simply visiting the websites. On the other hand, if your company builds and then sells a web site for another company and the website needs a mysql database to function at all (a dynamic web site that uses mysql specific SQL for example) then i'm not sure that you can get away without making your siurce GPL or buying a commercial MySQL license. According to this I can even redistribute mySQL under the terms of GPL and even to get money from such business. Which doesn't comply with the text from the mySQL's website... You can even modify the MySQL source and sell the modified version of MySQL in excange for money BUT you must do all this under the terms of GPL which means publishing the source code with your modifications. And of course you must find people that are willing to give the money to YOU instead of MySQL AB. Kaarel -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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You need a license if you sell a product designed specifically for use with MySQL or that requires the MySQL server to function at all. This is true whether or not you provide MySQL for your client as part of your product distribution. Does this mean that I must make all of my web sites non-commercial? (since I use mySQL as my main DBMS) I believe no, if it is your company's web site and your clients (along with other web surfers) are simply visiting the websites. On the other hand, if your company builds and then sells a web site for another company and the website needs a mysql database to function at all (a dynamic web site that uses mysql specific SQL for example) then i'm not sure that you can get away without making your siurce GPL or buying a commercial MySQL license. According to this I can even redistribute mySQL under the terms of GPL and even to get money from such business. Which doesn't comply with the text from the mySQL's website... You can even modify the MySQL source and sell the modified version of MySQL in excange for money BUT you must do all this under the terms of GPL which means publishing the source code with your modifications. And of course you must find people that are willing to give the money to YOU instead of MySQL AB. Kaarel -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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So this is getting really confusing now... I have two quite explicit questions to this and I hope there are some experts listening on this list who can answer them. (1) I want to start a (small, non-free) webhosting service and offer webspace with PHP support and a MySQL database account. There will be some standard tariffs that include a database account but I'm going to make them available as extra upgrade, too, for a monthly fee. Do I need a MySQL license for this use? I guess no, but I'm not really sure. (2) If I'm planning to choose MySQL as DBMS for future software I code in my one-man-company, instead of MS Access, I'd need to compile the MySQL client libraries into my application. Another way could be the ODBC interface, but I have no idea about how that works. Then, I'd tell the company, they need a MySQL server. I wouldn't integrate it into my software installation, but could offer the service of installing it on their server, if they can't do it theirselves. Again, do I or the other company need a commercial license for this use? (Of course, they pay for my programs.) I guess yes, but what in detail? Me for the client libraries? I haven't found pricing information on the MySQL website. And the other company for the entire server? Or is this free use (though commercial)? And isn't the client library included in the full license? I'd be thankful about any clear answers on these issues. On Sunday, December 07, 2003 10:32 AM CET, Chuck Gadd wrote: No. The instructor at the MySql training class I attended, who is an employee of MySql AB, specifically mentioned this example. In the case of a website, you are not distributing Mysql or any MySQL library or components to your end users. So no MySql Commercial license is required. (...) http://www.mysql.com/products/licensing.html (...) -- Yves Goergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please don't CC me (causes double mails) -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Yves Goergen wrote: (1) I want to start a (small, non-free) webhosting service and offer webspace with PHP support and a MySQL database account. There will be some standard tariffs that include a database account but I'm going to make them available as extra upgrade, too, for a monthly fee. Do I need a MySQL license for this use? I guess no, but I'm not really sure. I do not think so. You can download and install a GPL copy of MySql, and let anyone you want use it. You are not shipping or distributing any part of MySql. Your customers are simply users of your server. (2) If I'm planning to choose MySQL as DBMS for future software I code in my one-man-company, instead of MS Access, I'd need to compile the MySQL client libraries into my application. Another way could be the ODBC interface, but If the software was written for use BY your one-man-company, than no. But if you are selling this software to a client, then yes, they would need a commercial license. The license is per server, so either you or your client could purchase the license. If your client was going to install MySQL on two seperate servers, then two licenses would need to be purchased. If your client already had a commercial MySql license, then they wouldn't need to purchase another license to use your app. for this use? (Of course, they pay for my programs.) I guess yes, but what in detail? Me for the client libraries? I haven't found pricing information Typically, MySQL AB doesn't sell a license for the client libraries. The commercial license is a complete package, server and client. If your intention is to ship a functional MySql app, and just have the client download the GPL server, you would just need to purchase the commercial server. Having the client download/install the server is basically just an attempt at getting around the commercial license. But, early in this thread, the situation where someone might ship an application that could optionally connect up to many different databases. MySql isn't required for the app to run, but the app COULD connect to MySql if it was there. That is a case where a specific CLIENT license might be applicable.On the MySql site, on the Pricing page, it says: MySQL Client Prices For circumstances where a MySQL client license is required, please contact us for a quote. So maybe they can deal with that scenario. -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Ivan Cukic wrote: 1. Free use for those who are 100% GPL 2. Free use for those who never copy, modify or distribute 3. Commercial use for everyone else Strange thing: How can SUSE redistribute mySQL when it is not 100% GPL? (It has MPL, ... also, beside commercial programs) Ivan -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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1. Free use for those who are 100% GPL 2. Free use for those who never copy, modify or distribute 3. Commercial use for everyone else OK. But 2nd statement is not taken from GPL. Example: SUSE ships non GPL programs such as StarOffice (not OpenOffice), SUN ships Java etc. in it's Linux... This is not covered by GPL, as I've mentioned before. The only thing I said wrong is: I think that mySQL doesn't have redistribution targeted license. Ivan -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Thank you for all your response, but my question is very simple : Example : We have company 1 that make's a product that communicate with MySQL server using TCP/IP. This product (company 1) does not use the MySQL client to connect to MySQL server. (Don't ask me how, I don't know) (By the way, this product really exist, that is why I am asking this question). Therefore, if Company 2 has a MySQL server (commercial license) and purchases 100 product from company 1, does company 2 need a 100 MySQL client or driver licenses ??? I believe not (2 reasons) 1 - I paid company 1 for its product. 2 - the product does not use MySQL client to connect to MySQL server. This is what is bugging me, can you help ? thank you, -Original Message- From: Ron Albright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 3 décembre, 2003 18:27 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Licence question At 01:26 PM 12/3/2003, Chuck Gadd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is your standard I am not a lawyer type answer, because reading the text of the GPL can be overwhelming, but the way I understand it, if you are shipping MySql with your app, then you've either got to release your app under the GPL, or you've got to buy a commercial Mysql license for each copy of your app that you ship. If you were to simply download and install MySQL at your company office, then write apps for in-house use at your company, then you have no license issues. Your apps would not need to be GPL, and you do not need a Mysql commercial license. This was discussed by a Mysql AB employee during the MySQL training class I took a few weeks ago. This is somewhat ambiguous. From the statements below it would appear to me that you can ship MySQL with an application as long as the your application does not directly link to the MySQL libraries as would be the case if embedded. But mere aggregation seems to apply even if your application starts the database as a separate executable. The last paragraph of the first question seems to allow shipping it along with your application but the last sentence leaves it somewhat open to question. From the GPL FAQ (http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html): What is the difference between mere aggregation and combining two modules into one program? Mere aggregation of two programs means putting them side by side on the same CD-ROM or hard disk. We use this term in the case where they are separate programs, not parts of a single program. In this case, if one of the programs is covered by the GPL, it has no effect on the other program. Combining two modules means connecting them together so that they form a single larger program. If either part is covered by the GPL, the whole combination must also be released under the GPL--if you can't, or won't, do that, you may not combine them. What constitutes combining two parts into one program? This is a legal question, which ultimately judges will decide. We believe that a proper criterion depends both on the mechanism of communication (exec, pipes, rpc, function calls within a shared address space, etc.) and the semantics of the communication (what kinds of information are interchanged). If the modules are included in the same executable file, they are definitely combined in one program. If modules are designed to run linked together in a shared address space, that almost surely means combining them into one program. By contrast, pipes, sockets and command-line arguments are communication mechanisms normally used between two separate programs. So when they are used for communication, the modules normally are separate programs. But if the semantics of the communication are intimate enough, exchanging complex internal data structures, that too could be a basis to consider the two parts as combined into a larger program. If a program released under the GPL uses plug-ins, what are the requirements for the licenses of a plug-in. It depends on how the program invokes its plug-ins. If the program uses fork and exec to invoke plug-ins, then the plug-ins are separate programs, so the license for the main program makes no requirements for them. If the program dynamically links plug-ins, and they make function calls to each other and share data structures, we believe they form a single program, so plug-ins must be treated as extensions to the main program. This means they must be released under the GPL or a GPL-compatible free software license, and that the terms of the GPL must be followed when those plug-ins are distributed. If the program dynamically links plug-ins, but the communication between them is limited to invoking the `main' function of the plug-in with some options and waiting for it to return, that is a borderline case. Can I use the GPL for a plug-in for a non-free program? If the program uses fork and exec to invoke plug-ins, then the plug-ins are separate programs, so the license for the main program makes no requirements for them
Re: Licence question
* Stéphane Bischoff Thank you for all your response, but my question is very simple : Example : We have company 1 that make's a product that communicate with MySQL server using TCP/IP. This product (company 1) does not use the MySQL client to connect to MySQL server. (Don't ask me how, I don't know) (By the way, this product really exist, that is why I am asking this question). Therefore, if Company 2 has a MySQL server (commercial license) and purchases 100 product from company 1, does company 2 need a 100 MySQL client or driver licenses ??? I believe not (2 reasons) 1 - I paid company 1 for its product. 2 - the product does not use MySQL client to connect to MySQL server. This is what is bugging me, can you help ? I'm no lawyer either, but I find this quote from the mysql download pages informative and to the point... slightly paraphrased: You need to purchase commercial non-GPL MySQL licenses if you distribute MySQL Software with your non open source software. If company 1 does not distribute MySQL software (C API included), they don't need a licence. Company 2 is the customer in this case, and does not need a licence in any case. (Need as in have to, they may need/want it because of warranty and/or community support issues.) If the product _really_ can connect to the server without client software... I don't know... check this: URL: http://www.mysql.com/products/licensing.html More specifically 3b: If you include one of the MySQL drivers in your non Open Source application (so that your application can run with MySQL), you need a commercial licence for the driver(s) in question. ...so that your application can run with MySQL... it is implied that you can not communicate with the server without a client, and that any client would be considered derived from the GPL'ed MySQL client...? Also note this snippet from the GPL FAQ: * Ron Albright [...] From the GPL FAQ (http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html): [...] Combining two modules means connecting them together so that they form a single larger program. If either part is covered by the GPL, the whole combination must also be released under the GPL--if you can't, or won't, do that, you may not combine them. [...] By contrast, pipes, sockets and command-line arguments are communication mechanisms normally used between two separate programs. So when they are used for communication, the modules normally are separate programs. But if the semantics of the communication are intimate enough, exchanging complex internal data structures, that too could be a basis to consider the two parts as combined into a larger program. One could argue that the product delivered by company 1 is a combined larger program, depending on what kind of product it is. But again, this would not change the situation for Company 2. -- Roger -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Stéphane, I share the comments already expressed by Roger. But would like to add the following: - If you represent company 2 you will not have to purchase the client licenses. - It seems to me it is the sole responsibility of company 1 to secure the legality and the compliance to the GPL licence of their product or alternatively include a non-GPL license in their product. You might want to ask them about this if you feel unsure or have doubts. Jan -Original Message- From: Stéphane Bischoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 15:31 To: 'Ron Albright' Cc: MySQL (E-mail) Subject: RE: Licence question Thank you for all your response, but my question is very simple : Example : We have company 1 that make's a product that communicate with MySQL server using TCP/IP. This product (company 1) does not use the MySQL client to connect to MySQL server. (Don't ask me how, I don't know) (By the way, this product really exist, that is why I am asking this question). Therefore, if Company 2 has a MySQL server (commercial license) and purchases 100 product from company 1, does company 2 need a 100 MySQL client or driver licenses ??? I believe not (2 reasons) 1 - I paid company 1 for its product. 2 - the product does not use MySQL client to connect to MySQL server. This is what is bugging me, can you help ? thank you, -Original Message- From: Ron Albright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 3 décembre, 2003 18:27 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Licence question At 01:26 PM 12/3/2003, Chuck Gadd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is your standard I am not a lawyer type answer, because reading the text of the GPL can be overwhelming, but the way I understand it, if you are shipping MySql with your app, then you've either got to release your app under the GPL, or you've got to buy a commercial Mysql license for each copy of your app that you ship. If you were to simply download and install MySQL at your company office, then write apps for in-house use at your company, then you have no license issues. Your apps would not need to be GPL, and you do not need a Mysql commercial license. This was discussed by a Mysql AB employee during the MySQL training class I took a few weeks ago. This is somewhat ambiguous. From the statements below it would appear to me that you can ship MySQL with an application as long as the your application does not directly link to the MySQL libraries as would be the case if embedded. But mere aggregation seems to apply even if your application starts the database as a separate executable. The last paragraph of the first question seems to allow shipping it along with your application but the last sentence leaves it somewhat open to question. From the GPL FAQ (http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html): What is the difference between mere aggregation and combining two modules into one program? Mere aggregation of two programs means putting them side by side on the same CD-ROM or hard disk. We use this term in the case where they are separate programs, not parts of a single program. In this case, if one of the programs is covered by the GPL, it has no effect on the other program. Combining two modules means connecting them together so that they form a single larger program. If either part is covered by the GPL, the whole combination must also be released under the GPL--if you can't, or won't, do that, you may not combine them. What constitutes combining two parts into one program? This is a legal question, which ultimately judges will decide. We believe that a proper criterion depends both on the mechanism of communication (exec, pipes, rpc, function calls within a shared address space, etc.) and the semantics of the communication (what kinds of information are interchanged). If the modules are included in the same executable file, they are definitely combined in one program. If modules are designed to run linked together in a shared address space, that almost surely means combining them into one program. By contrast, pipes, sockets and command-line arguments are communication mechanisms normally used between two separate programs. So when they are used for communication, the modules normally are separate programs. But if the semantics of the communication are intimate enough, exchanging complex internal data structures, that too could be a basis to consider the two parts as combined into a larger program. If a program released under the GPL uses plug-ins, what are the requirements for the licenses of a plug-in. It depends on how the program invokes its plug-ins. If the program uses fork and exec to invoke plug-ins, then the plug-ins are separate programs, so the license for the main program makes no requirements for them. If the program dynamically links plug-ins, and they make function calls to each other and share data structures, we believe
Re: Licence question
We have company 1 that make's a product that communicate with MySQL server using TCP/IP. This product (company 1) does not use the MySQL client to connect to MySQL server. (Don't ask me how, I don't know) (By the way, this product really exist, that is why I am asking this question). Therefore, if Company 2 has a MySQL server (commercial license) and purchases 100 product from company 1, does company 2 need a 100 MySQL client or driver licenses ??? http://www.mysql.com/products/licensing-examples.html You need a license if you sell a product designed specifically for use with MySQL or that requires the MySQL server to function at all. This is true whether or not you provide MySQL for your client as part of your product distribution. Seems to me that company 1 should have the commercial MySQL license. Company 2 is not selling anything so they should not need a license. Kaarel -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi, We are programming a Delphi application that interacts with the MySQL server from Windows. Normally we would need a client side licence ? But if we use a set of components (from a third party) that allow us to interact with the MySQL server without using the MySQL client. In this case, do we need to buy a client licence at all ? Thank you -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Stéphane Bischoff wrote: We are programming a Delphi application that interacts with the MySQL server from Windows. Normally we would need a client side licence ? But if we use a set of components (from a third party) that allow us to interact with the MySQL server without using the MySQL client. In this case, do we need to buy a client licence at all ? This is your standard I am not a lawyer type answer, because reading the text of the GPL can be overwhelming, but the way I understand it, if you are shipping MySql with your app, then you've either got to release your app under the GPL, or you've got to buy a commercial Mysql license for each copy of your app that you ship. If you were to simply download and install MySQL at your company office, then write apps for in-house use at your company, then you have no license issues. Your apps would not need to be GPL, and you do not need a Mysql commercial license. This was discussed by a Mysql AB employee during the MySQL training class I took a few weeks ago. -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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If you were to simply download and install MySQL at your company office, then write apps for in-house use at your company, then you have no license issues. Your apps would not need to be GPL, and you do not need a Mysql commercial license. This was discussed by a Mysql AB employee during the MySQL training class I took a few weeks ago. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this is not the case. If you do not use the source of mysql, GPL doesn't apply. According to GPL, you have to make your program free (open source) only if you use source from a GPL licensed program or if you modify it etc. I think that mySQL doesn't have redistribution targeted license. Ivan -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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At 03:55 PM 12/3/2003, you wrote: If you were to simply download and install MySQL at your company office, then write apps for in-house use at your company, then you have no license issues. Your apps would not need to be GPL, and you do not need a Mysql commercial license. This was discussed by a Mysql AB employee during the MySQL training class I took a few weeks ago. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this is not the case. If you do not use the source of mysql, GPL doesn't apply. Ok, consider yourself corrected.g Chuck's interpretation is more accurate. According to GPL, you have to make your program free (open source) only if you use source from a GPL licensed program or if you modify it etc. Incorrect. See Chuck's explanation. Mike -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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At 01:26 PM 12/3/2003, Chuck Gadd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is your standard I am not a lawyer type answer, because reading the text of the GPL can be overwhelming, but the way I understand it, if you are shipping MySql with your app, then you've either got to release your app under the GPL, or you've got to buy a commercial Mysql license for each copy of your app that you ship. If you were to simply download and install MySQL at your company office, then write apps for in-house use at your company, then you have no license issues. Your apps would not need to be GPL, and you do not need a Mysql commercial license. This was discussed by a Mysql AB employee during the MySQL training class I took a few weeks ago. This is somewhat ambiguous. From the statements below it would appear to me that you can ship MySQL with an application as long as the your application does not directly link to the MySQL libraries as would be the case if embedded. But mere aggregation seems to apply even if your application starts the database as a separate executable. The last paragraph of the first question seems to allow shipping it along with your application but the last sentence leaves it somewhat open to question. From the GPL FAQ (http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html): What is the difference between mere aggregation and combining two modules into one program? Mere aggregation of two programs means putting them side by side on the same CD-ROM or hard disk. We use this term in the case where they are separate programs, not parts of a single program. In this case, if one of the programs is covered by the GPL, it has no effect on the other program. Combining two modules means connecting them together so that they form a single larger program. If either part is covered by the GPL, the whole combination must also be released under the GPL--if you can't, or won't, do that, you may not combine them. What constitutes combining two parts into one program? This is a legal question, which ultimately judges will decide. We believe that a proper criterion depends both on the mechanism of communication (exec, pipes, rpc, function calls within a shared address space, etc.) and the semantics of the communication (what kinds of information are interchanged). If the modules are included in the same executable file, they are definitely combined in one program. If modules are designed to run linked together in a shared address space, that almost surely means combining them into one program. By contrast, pipes, sockets and command-line arguments are communication mechanisms normally used between two separate programs. So when they are used for communication, the modules normally are separate programs. But if the semantics of the communication are intimate enough, exchanging complex internal data structures, that too could be a basis to consider the two parts as combined into a larger program. If a program released under the GPL uses plug-ins, what are the requirements for the licenses of a plug-in. It depends on how the program invokes its plug-ins. If the program uses fork and exec to invoke plug-ins, then the plug-ins are separate programs, so the license for the main program makes no requirements for them. If the program dynamically links plug-ins, and they make function calls to each other and share data structures, we believe they form a single program, so plug-ins must be treated as extensions to the main program. This means they must be released under the GPL or a GPL-compatible free software license, and that the terms of the GPL must be followed when those plug-ins are distributed. If the program dynamically links plug-ins, but the communication between them is limited to invoking the `main' function of the plug-in with some options and waiting for it to return, that is a borderline case. Can I use the GPL for a plug-in for a non-free program? If the program uses fork and exec to invoke plug-ins, then the plug-ins are separate programs, so the license for the main program makes no requirements for them. So you can use the GPL for a plug-in, and there are no special requirements. If the program dynamically links plug-ins, and they make function calls to each other and share data structures, we believe they form a single program, so plug-ins must be treated as extensions to the main program. This means that linking the GPL-covered plug-in with the main program would violate the GPL. However, you can resolve that legal problem by adding an exception to your program's license which gives permission to link it with the non-free main program. For more details, see the question above that starts with, I am writing free software that uses a non-free library. If a programming language interpreter is released under the GPL, does that mean programs written to be interpreted by it must be under GPL-compatible licenses? When the interpreter just interprets a language,
RE: Licence question
Ron Albright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is somewhat ambiguous. From the statements below it would appear to me that you can ship MySQL with an application as long as the your application does not directly link to the MySQL libraries as would be the case if embedded. But mere aggregation seems to apply even if your application starts the database as a separate executable. The last paragraph of the first question seems to allow shipping it along with your application but the last sentence leaves it somewhat open to question. [snip] Wow, why not just look at the MySQL License Policy page. They say: 1. Free use for those who are 100% GPL 2. Free use for those who never copy, modify or distribute 3. Commercial use for everyone else And under point 3: If your application is not licensed under GPL or compatible OSI license approved by MySQL AB and you intend to distribute MySQL software (be that internally or externally), you must first obtain a commercial license to the MySQL software in question. More specifically: a) If you include the MySQL server in your non Open Source application, you need a commercial licence for the MySQL server b) If you include one of the MySQL drivers in your non Open Source application (so that your application can run with MySQL), you need a commercial licence for the driver(s) in question. The MySQL drivers currently include an ODBC driver, a JDBC driver and the C language library. c) If you use MySQL Software within your organisation and you don't want to risk it falling under the GPL license, you are welcome to purchase a commercial license. d) Many users opt for the commercial licence simply because under it MySQL AB takes responsibility for its products. Under the GPL licence, there are no warranties or representations from the developer (i.e. from MySQL AB). Seems pretty clear to me. -- Michael Brando Senior Manager of Engineering Applied Biosystems 3833 North First Street San Jose, CA 95134-1701 -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe:http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Licence Free Import/Export for Access?
I have used dbScripter a lot for this kind of work. It is definitely NOT necessary to own Access to use it. One of its nice features is its database profiles. These function as data and syntax translation tables. For example, if a column type doesn't exist in the target, substitute another column type. It only took a small amount of experimentation to create a MySQL profile, and using that I have frequently moved databases from SQL 2000, Oracle and Access to MySQL. dbScripter will work fine with virtually any ODBC-compliant back end. Hth, Arthur -Original Message- From: David T-G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: February 12, 2003 10:45 PM To: mysql users Cc: j.urban; Christensen, Dave Subject: Re: Licence Free Import/Export for Access? -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dave J, et al -- [re DBScripter and urSQL] Those are nice tools, but if I read you correctly they only work if one has MS Access. The original poster, if I read *him* correctly, wants a way to read Access DB files and turn them into MySQL files -- but without having to have MS Access. That would be my desire if I ever had to touch an MS Access file, since I don't have Access almost don't run Windows at all. Did I misunderstand anyone? HTH TIA HAND mysql query, :-D - -- David T-G * There is too much animal courage in (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * society and not sufficient moral courage. (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mary Baker Eddy, Science and Health http://justpickone.org/davidtg/ Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+SxTLGb7uCXufRwARAhvNAKCDaezt+gSN4BQinKadUoWzvw2wWACg5hrn apGMD7+rA8vIqlbp2ZkBS4Y= =N2rx -END PGP SIGNATURE- - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Arthur, et al -- ...and then Arthur Fuller said... % % I have used dbScripter a lot for this kind of work. It is definitely NOT % necessary to own Access to use it. Cool! That's what I wanted to pin down. So if someone sends me an Access .MDB file I can just open it up and get the data out, right? ... % and using that I have frequently moved databases from SQL 2000, Oracle and % Access to MySQL. dbScripter will work fine with virtually any ODBC-compliant % back end. Since I don't know much about ODBC, here's another place where I have a question... Does the ODBC back end read the Access DB file, and if so what sorts of back ends are out there for Linux and FreeBSD? % Hth, % Arthur Thanks a *bunch* HAND :-D - -- David T-G * There is too much animal courage in (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * society and not sufficient moral courage. (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mary Baker Eddy, Science and Health http://justpickone.org/davidtg/ Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+S5UiGb7uCXufRwARArMHAKCboab1FElihe3Hrepf1ZRrVW4ZsACeI5do odawCIN/W+BFMEOV6V028uQ= =JLk/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
RE: Licence Free Import/Export for Access?
Since DBScripter uses ODBC, you'll have to set up a Data Source in the ODBC manager in Windows for any database you wish to access with the product. For that you'll need an Access driver, but you can download that driver from MS at no cost. It would be nice if DBScripter would be ported to LINUX and other UNIX flavors.. :-) -Original Message- From: David T-G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:53 AM To: mysql users Cc: Arthur Fuller Subject: Re: Licence Free Import/Export for Access? -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Arthur, et al -- ...and then Arthur Fuller said... % % I have used dbScripter a lot for this kind of work. It is definitely NOT % necessary to own Access to use it. Cool! That's what I wanted to pin down. So if someone sends me an Access .MDB file I can just open it up and get the data out, right? ... % and using that I have frequently moved databases from SQL 2000, Oracle and % Access to MySQL. dbScripter will work fine with virtually any ODBC-compliant % back end. Since I don't know much about ODBC, here's another place where I have a question... Does the ODBC back end read the Access DB file, and if so what sorts of back ends are out there for Linux and FreeBSD? % Hth, % Arthur Thanks a *bunch* HAND :-D - -- David T-G * There is too much animal courage in (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * society and not sufficient moral courage. (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mary Baker Eddy, Science and Health http://justpickone.org/davidtg/ Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+S5UiGb7uCXufRwARArMHAKCboab1FElihe3Hrepf1ZRrVW4ZsACeI5do odawCIN/W+BFMEOV6V028uQ= =JLk/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: Licence Free Import/Export for Access?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dave -- ...and then Christensen, Dave said... % % Since DBScripter uses ODBC, you'll have to set up a Data Source in the ODBC % manager in Windows for any database you wish to access with the product. Oh, I get it... ODBC means Windows. That leaves me out, then; my Win boxes are up only occasionally, and I *certainly* don't have any Win servers. % For that you'll need an Access driver, but you can download that driver from % MS at no cost. It would be nice if DBScripter would be ported to LINUX and % other UNIX flavors.. :-) Indeed :-) Thanks a bunch for the clarification! mysql query, :-D - -- David T-G * There is too much animal courage in (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * society and not sufficient moral courage. (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mary Baker Eddy, Science and Health http://justpickone.org/davidtg/ Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+S61fGb7uCXufRwARAllrAJ9YTjo+TKOTHJG8mwZCM48wkymaHQCg254o NS0gjfAIdUEi5qteRWtaY5w= =e4OK -END PGP SIGNATURE- - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
RE: Licence Free Import/Export for Access?
I believe the same is true of urSQL. However, you do need to set up an ODBC data source and this requires the MS Access driver. The easiest way to get the driver is to install MS Access, but I think it is possible to install the driver without MS Access... On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Arthur Fuller wrote: I have used dbScripter a lot for this kind of work. It is definitely NOT necessary to own Access to use it. One of its nice features is its database profiles. These function as data and syntax translation tables. For example, if a column type doesn't exist in the target, substitute another column type. It only took a small amount of experimentation to create a MySQL profile, and using that I have frequently moved databases from SQL 2000, Oracle and Access to MySQL. dbScripter will work fine with virtually any ODBC-compliant back end. Hth, Arthur - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: Licence Free Import/Export for Access?
Hi Is there a licence free way to Import (and Export) Access databases (mdb files) into (out from) mySQL? I've read the FAQs and looked at the converters available but it appears to me that all of these require the Access program to work. Is there any way of converting to/from MDB files without using the Access tool. Many thanks Neil Dr Neil Williams Director MetaMedia 103 High Street Dunfermline Fife KY12 7DR United Kingdom t: +44 (0) 1383 729 412 f: +44 (0) 1383 735 912 m: +44 (0) 7976 852 467 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: www.metamedia.uk.com --- - - This message is sent in confidence for the addressee only. It may contain legally privileged information. The contents are not to be disclosed to anyone other than the addressee. Unauthorised recipients are requested to preserve this confidentiality and to advise the sender immediately of any error in transmission. - - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
RE: Licence Free Import/Export for Access?
Is there a licence free way to Import (and Export) Access databases (mdb files) into (out from) mySQL? I've read the FAQs and looked at the converters available but it appears to me that all of these require the Access program to work. Is there any way of converting to/from MDB files without using the Access tool. There are some things you can do with Perl here. I've used DBD::ODBC to pull from/put to Access databases on one side and the appropriate DBD:: module on the other side (in this case DBD::mysql) to pull from/put to the non-Access database. The systems I did this with all has Access installed. Whether that's a DBD::ODBC requirement, I don't know ... Also, if you're doing this on a non-Windows box you need to install an ODBC driver, which may not be free. Steve Sapovits GSI Commerce, Inc. http://www.gsicommerce.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: Licence Free Import/Export for Access?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Neil -- ...and then Neil Williams said... % % Hi Hi! % % Is there a licence free way to Import (and Export) Access databases (mdb % files) into (out from) mySQL? I haven't seen one yet. It's quite possible that nobody has written a file converter -- also quite possibly because MS hasn't released the file spec and nobody has reverse-engineered it :-) I did a quick CPAN search and found DBIx::Record::Format::ODBC::MSAccess which looks somewhat hopeful; you might dig into that a bit. HTH HAND mysql query, :-D - -- David T-G * There is too much animal courage in (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * society and not sufficient moral courage. (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mary Baker Eddy, Science and Health http://justpickone.org/davidtg/ Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+SnmlGb7uCXufRwARAk5tAJ9AFHohak4IXrL9jhY3suxhWfExvgCgnZvv X7/gEKohVSZhdAu7N+bTLxo= =oJMt -END PGP SIGNATURE- - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
RE: Licence Free Import/Export for Access?
There's a relatively low-cost ODBC utility called DBScripter that does a pretty good job creating scripts for exporting ddl and data from ODBC datasources. It allows you to build dialects for server-based SQL variations. I don't think that there's a current MySQL dialect, but looks pretty simple to put one together. Here's the link to the site: http://www.dkgadvancedsolutions.com/dbscript.htm -Original Message- From: David T-G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 10:43 AM To: mysql users Cc: Neil Williams Subject: Re: Licence Free Import/Export for Access? -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Neil -- ...and then Neil Williams said... % % Hi Hi! % % Is there a licence free way to Import (and Export) Access databases (mdb % files) into (out from) mySQL? I haven't seen one yet. It's quite possible that nobody has written a file converter -- also quite possibly because MS hasn't released the file spec and nobody has reverse-engineered it :-) I did a quick CPAN search and found DBIx::Record::Format::ODBC::MSAccess which looks somewhat hopeful; you might dig into that a bit. HTH HAND mysql query, :-D - -- David T-G * There is too much animal courage in (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * society and not sufficient moral courage. (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mary Baker Eddy, Science and Health http://justpickone.org/davidtg/ Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+SnmlGb7uCXufRwARAk5tAJ9AFHohak4IXrL9jhY3suxhWfExvgCgnZvv X7/gEKohVSZhdAu7N+bTLxo= =oJMt -END PGP SIGNATURE- - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
RE: Licence Free Import/Export for Access?
I've used urSQL (http://www.urbanresearch.com/ursql) to accomplish this for quite some time. You can click on an MS Access table and select Build Script as MySQL to get a MySQL-like CREATE TABLE script... On Wed, 12 Feb 2003, Christensen, Dave wrote: There's a relatively low-cost ODBC utility called DBScripter that does a pretty good job creating scripts for exporting ddl and data from ODBC datasources. It allows you to build dialects for server-based SQL variations. I don't think that there's a current MySQL dialect, but looks pretty simple to put one together. - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: Licence Free Import/Export for Access?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dave J, et al -- [re DBScripter and urSQL] Those are nice tools, but if I read you correctly they only work if one has MS Access. The original poster, if I read *him* correctly, wants a way to read Access DB files and turn them into MySQL files -- but without having to have MS Access. That would be my desire if I ever had to touch an MS Access file, since I don't have Access almost don't run Windows at all. Did I misunderstand anyone? HTH TIA HAND mysql query, :-D - -- David T-G * There is too much animal courage in (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * society and not sufficient moral courage. (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mary Baker Eddy, Science and Health http://justpickone.org/davidtg/ Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+SxTLGb7uCXufRwARAhvNAKCDaezt+gSN4BQinKadUoWzvw2wWACg5hrn apGMD7+rA8vIqlbp2ZkBS4Y= =N2rx -END PGP SIGNATURE- - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
RE: Licence Free Import/Export for Access?
Yes, I think you misunderstood. You don't have to own MS Access or have it on your PC to use DBScripter. You DO have to set up an ODBC data source that points to the Access database though. That process can be accomplished without owning Access. -Original Message- From: David T-G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 9:45 PM To: mysql users Cc: j.urban; Christensen, Dave Subject: Re: Licence Free Import/Export for Access? -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dave J, et al -- [re DBScripter and urSQL] Those are nice tools, but if I read you correctly they only work if one has MS Access. The original poster, if I read *him* correctly, wants a way to read Access DB files and turn them into MySQL files -- but without having to have MS Access. That would be my desire if I ever had to touch an MS Access file, since I don't have Access almost don't run Windows at all. Did I misunderstand anyone? HTH TIA HAND mysql query, :-D - -- David T-G * There is too much animal courage in (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * society and not sufficient moral courage. (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mary Baker Eddy, Science and Health http://justpickone.org/davidtg/ Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+SxTLGb7uCXufRwARAhvNAKCDaezt+gSN4BQinKadUoWzvw2wWACg5hrn apGMD7+rA8vIqlbp2ZkBS4Y= =N2rx -END PGP SIGNATURE- - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: Licence Free Import/Export for Access?
Neil Williams wrote: Hi Is there a licence free way to Import (and Export) Access databases (mdb files) into (out from) mySQL? I've read the FAQs and looked at the converters available but it appears to me that all of these require the Access program to work. Is there any way of converting to/from MDB files without using the Access tool. I saw *someone* talking about this sort of thing. Hm. Let me search my email Have a look at this: http://mdbtools.sourceforge.net/gmdb/gmdb2screenshot.png Might be what you need. -- Daniel Kasak IT Developer * NUS Consulting Group* Level 18, 168 Walker Street North Sydney, NSW, Australia 2060 T: (+61) 2 9922-7676 / F: (+61) 2 9922 7989 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] website: www.nusconsulting.com - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
The Licence of MySQl
The licence in mysql page is obscure for version 4.0 What is a diference of MySQL-Classic and MySQL-Pro ? When may i use MySQL-Classic ? When may i use MySQL-Pro ? My Application is a commercial multi-database , running in mysql and interbase , in my case , witch these licenceses must i use ? I am confused :( Tnks, sql,query - ++ Dyego Souza do Carmo ++ Dep. Desenvolvimento - E S C R I B A I N F O R M A T I C A - The only stupid question is the unasked one (somewhere in Linux's HowTo) Linux registred user : #230601 -- $ look into my eyes look: cannot open my eyes - Reply: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: The Licence of MySQl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 25 November 2002 13:53, Dyego Souza do Carmo wrote: The licence in mysql page is obscure for version 4.0 What is a diference of MySQL-Classic and MySQL-Pro ? The only difference between those two is InnoDB - MySQL-Classic does not include it, while MySQL-Pro does. Both products are available under a commercial (non-GPL) license only. If you want to use MySQL under the terms of the GPL, please use MySQL-Standard instead. This is exactly the same as MySQL-Pro (with InnoDB), but under the GPL. When may i use MySQL-Classic ? When may i use MySQL-Pro ? It depends on if you require InnoDB or not - that's the only difference. My Application is a commercial multi-database , running in mysql and interbase , in my case , witch these licenceses must i use ? I am confused :( I am sorry, if you find it confusing. I would like to recommend you to contact our sales people at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you are in doubt - they should be able to answer all your questions and clear the confusion. Bye, LenZ - -- For technical support contracts, visit https://order.mysql.com/?ref=mlgr __ ___ ___ __ / |/ /_ __/ __/ __ \/ /Mr. Lenz Grimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] / /|_/ / // /\ \/ /_/ / /__ MySQL AB, Production Engineer /_/ /_/\_, /___/\___\_\___/ Hamburg, Germany ___/ www.mysql.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE94immSVDhKrJykfIRAt+QAJ4ihr/PW8RMfH388g9tBPoQCIKL/QCggRjU agbOEJksifAA4G5Jpkj7qEY= =1ILo -END PGP SIGNATURE- - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re[2]: The Licence of MySQl
The licence in mysql page is obscure for version 4.0 What is a diference of MySQL-Classic and MySQL-Pro ? LG The only difference between those two is InnoDB - MySQL-Classic does not LG include it, while MySQL-Pro does. Both products are available under a LG commercial (non-GPL) license only. If you want to use MySQL under the terms LG of the GPL, please use MySQL-Standard instead. This is exactly the same as LG MySQL-Pro (with InnoDB), but under the GPL. When may i use MySQL-Classic ? When may i use MySQL-Pro ? LG It depends on if you require InnoDB or not - that's the only difference. My Application is a commercial multi-database , running in mysql and interbase , in my case , witch these licenceses must i use ? I am confused :( ohhh, i´m sorry , the licences i was confused about are: MySQL-Standard and MySQL-Pro , not mysql-classic ;) What are the deferences between mysql-standard and mysql-pro ? My Application is a commercial multi-database , running on Mysql+InnoDB or Interbase , in my case , witch these licences must i use ? on the mysql page i could read that if my software only depends on mysql to run , i have to order a licence , if not ( in multi-database case ) , i haven´t to order a commercial licence. How this licences works ? according the page i had understood i don't need to buy a licence. am i right ? Tnks, - ++ Dyego Souza do Carmo ++ Dep. Desenvolvimento - E S C R I B A I N F O R M A T I C A - The only stupid question is the unasked one (somewhere in Linux's HowTo) Linux registred user : #230601 -- $ look into my eyes look: cannot open my eyes - Reply: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: Re[2]: The Licence of MySQl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 25 November 2002 15:03, Dyego Souza do Carmo wrote: ohhh, i´m sorry , the licences i was confused about are: MySQL-Standard and MySQL-Pro , not mysql-classic ;) What are the deferences between mysql-standard and mysql-pro ? Well, as I said: MySQL-Standard is the GPL version, while MySQL-Classic is only available under a commercial (non-GPL) license. That's the only difference - they do not differ feature-wise. My Application is a commercial multi-database , running on Mysql+InnoDB or Interbase , in my case , witch these licences must i use ? on the mysql page i could read that if my software only depends on mysql to run , i have to order a licence , if not ( in multi-database case ) , i haven´t to order a commercial licence. How this licences works ? according the page i had understood i don't need to buy a licence. am i right ? Sorry, I can't assist you in licensing questions - if you have further questions about it, please contact our sales people at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks! Bye, LenZ - -- For technical support contracts, visit https://order.mysql.com/?ref=mlgr __ ___ ___ __ / |/ /_ __/ __/ __ \/ /Mr. Lenz Grimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] / /|_/ / // /\ \/ /_/ / /__ MySQL AB, Production Engineer /_/ /_/\_, /___/\___\_\___/ Hamburg, Germany ___/ www.mysql.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE94jSzSVDhKrJykfIRAt2bAJ41F9Vj6pTnz0ZGTU4iRDLM92/d1gCeJeiQ 9fozcL24JjjWTf2Av67OGpQ= =bhzw -END PGP SIGNATURE- - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
The licence of mysql
MySQL Classic (Commercial License) Similar to MySQL Standard, but *without* InnoDB and only available as a commercial licensed version. MySQL Pro (Commercial) Similar to MySQL Standard (*including* InnoDB), but only available as a commercial licensed version. What is the diference in (Commercial) and (Commercial Licence) ? The download ( bin and source ) of MySQL with InnoDB ( 4.0.5 ) is free ? or only available for customers ? The Mysql Standard SOURCE have a InnoDB table handler ? and The Engine of InnoDB on MySQL-Standard and MySQL-Pro is same ? Tnks for attenction... sql,query - ++ Dyego Souza do Carmo ++ Dep. Desenvolvimento - E S C R I B A I N F O R M A T I C A - The only stupid question is the unasked one (somewhere in Linux's HowTo) Linux registred user : #230601 -- $ look into my eyes look: cannot open my eyes - Reply: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: The licence of mysql
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 18 November 2002 16:46, Dyego Souza do Carmo wrote: MySQL Classic (Commercial License) Similar to MySQL Standard, but *without* InnoDB and only available as a commercial licensed version. MySQL Pro (Commercial) Similar to MySQL Standard (*including* InnoDB), but only available as a commercial licensed version. What is the diference in (Commercial) and (Commercial Licence) ? There is none, just bad wording. Both means the same. The download ( bin and source ) of MySQL with InnoDB ( 4.0.5 ) is free ? or only available for customers ? Of course it's free! And yes, InnoDB is included as well. The Mysql Standard SOURCE have a InnoDB table handler ? and The Engine of InnoDB on MySQL-Standard and MySQL-Pro is same ? Yes and yes. Bye, LenZ - -- For technical support contracts, visit https://order.mysql.com/?ref=mlgr __ ___ ___ __ / |/ /_ __/ __/ __ \/ /Mr. Lenz Grimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] / /|_/ / // /\ \/ /_/ / /__ MySQL AB, Production Engineer /_/ /_/\_, /___/\___\_\___/ Hamburg, Germany ___/ www.mysql.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE92UNESVDhKrJykfIRAhFwAJ4sud8HWcfokb+hDnmPatwbmh9VmACeMPKB SWQ1hRJSqDvU5ooHA2olPXs= =QRpG -END PGP SIGNATURE- - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: licence
Hello, Klym writes: I hope I'm not out of line by asking a licensing question. I am working on a MySQL database for a web-based survey. We will be charging a fee to complete the survey and receive reports. Am I required to purchase a MySQL licence for this or does my hosting company who sold me the use of MySQL cover the licence? If you don't distribute MySQL (i.e. in you situation you just use MySQL as web site backend), you don't need to purchase MySQL license. Of course you can buy a license, if you want to support MySQL development. If that installation is mission critical for your business, you should consider buying MySQL support. Our various support are listed at http://www.mysql.com/support/ Kind Regards, MySQL AB Iko Rein -- For technical support contracts, goto https://order.mysql.com/?ref=imr __ ___ ___ __ / |/ /_ __/ __/ __ \/ /Mr. Iko Rein [EMAIL PROTECTED] / /|_/ / // /\ \/ /_/ / /__ MySQL AB, Director of Online Sales /_/ /_/\_, /___/\___\_\___/ Helsinki, Finland ___/ www.mysql.com - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
licence
I hope I'm not out of line by asking a licensing question. I am working on a MySQL database for a web-based survey. We will be charging a fee to complete the survey and receive reports. Am I required to purchase a MySQL licence for this or does my hosting company who sold me the use of MySQL cover the licence? thanks - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: licence
Klym writes: I hope I'm not out of line by asking a licensing question. I am working on a MySQL database for a web-based survey. We will be charging a fee to complete the survey and receive reports. Am I required to purchase a MySQL licence for this or does my hosting company who sold me the use of MySQL cover the licence? thanks Hi! This is a question for [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Regards, __ ___ ___ __ / |/ /_ __/ __/ __ \/ /Mr. Sinisa Milivojevic [EMAIL PROTECTED] / /|_/ / // /\ \/ /_/ / /__ MySQL AB, Fulltime Developer /_/ /_/\_, /___/\___\_\___/ Larnaca, Cyprus ___/ www.mysql.com - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: licence
Let me know about the answer to this one. [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Life must be lived as play. - Plato (427 - 347 BC) - Original Message - From: Sinisa Milivojevic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 2:55 PM Subject: Re: licence Klym writes: I hope I'm not out of line by asking a licensing question. I am working on a MySQL database for a web-based survey. We will be charging a fee to complete the survey and receive reports. Am I required to purchase a MySQL licence for this or does my hosting company who sold me the use of MySQL cover the licence? thanks Hi! This is a question for [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Regards, __ ___ ___ __ / |/ /_ __/ __/ __ \/ /Mr. Sinisa Milivojevic [EMAIL PROTECTED] / /|_/ / // /\ \/ /_/ / /__ MySQL AB, Fulltime Developer /_/ /_/\_, /___/\___\_\___/ Larnaca, Cyprus ___/ www.mysql.com - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: licence
Neil Highley writes: Let me know about the answer to this one. [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Life must be lived as play. - Plato (427 - 347 BC) You will be duly informed ... -- Regards, __ ___ ___ __ / |/ /_ __/ __/ __ \/ /Mr. Sinisa Milivojevic [EMAIL PROTECTED] / /|_/ / // /\ \/ /_/ / /__ MySQL AB, Fulltime Developer /_/ /_/\_, /___/\___\_\___/ Larnaca, Cyprus ___/ www.mysql.com - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: licence
Shaun, I am not sure about everyone else on the list, but as far as I am concerned, since you are purchasing a service from your provider, all licencing should be dealt with by them. I would be awefully suspicious of any survice provider that wouldn't already have this information. Regards, Shaun - Original Message - From: Sinisa Milivojevic [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 11:13 AM Subject: Re: licence Neil Highley writes: Let me know about the answer to this one. [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Life must be lived as play. - Plato (427 - 347 BC) You will be duly informed ... -- Regards, __ ___ ___ __ / |/ /_ __/ __/ __ \/ /Mr. Sinisa Milivojevic [EMAIL PROTECTED] / /|_/ / // /\ \/ /_/ / /__ MySQL AB, Fulltime Developer /_/ /_/\_, /___/\___\_\___/ Larnaca, Cyprus ___/ www.mysql.com - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Regarding Licence
Hai, I have one doubt regarding Licence of MySql. I want to develop one software based on MySql. And i want to distribute it in the market. To do this shall i need Licence for MySql. Why i am asking is MySql is available on InterNet at free. So, i am thinking i can distribute my software without licencing. because those who takes my software they can download it at free of cost. So where is the matter of Purchaging licence. Please clarigy all of mydoubts as soon as possible. Regards Nagendra K. - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
RE: Regarding Licence
http://www.mysql.com/support/arrangements.html is pretty clear on what you need... M;) -Original Message- From: nagendra [mailto:nagendra%bartronicsindia.com] Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 7:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Regarding Licence Hai, I have one doubt regarding Licence of MySql. I want to develop one software based on MySql. And i want to distribute it in the market. To do this shall i need Licence for MySql. Why i am asking is MySql is available on InterNet at free. So, i am thinking i can distribute my software without licencing. because those who takes my software they can download it at free of cost. So where is the matter of Purchaging licence. Please clarigy all of mydoubts as soon as possible. Regards Nagendra K. - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: Do i need licence for using mysql in my project ?
Hi, again. Hmm. 1) Lets supose, i have ISP that supports mysql+apache+PHP. My php+mysql+apache based system is located on the ISP server. When i sell this PHP application to my client (any Company), this company works with my system over Internet on ISP. Anybody need licence ? I, the Client or my ISP ?? I would get the money for my job (system). 2) Supose, i give my system free for that Company, but all rights belong to me. Do i need licence for mysql ? 3) Supose, one men, works in this company, hi made system based on PHP+mysql+apache. He bought computer, installed linux,apache,php and mysql. Does his Company need buy a Licence for mysql server. They are using it internal in Company, as intranet system. Regards. P.S. can i buy in Poland mysql commercial license or i must do that only by Internet ? I. Piasecki. - Original Message - From: Benjamin Pflugmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ireneusz Piasecki [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 8:57 PM Subject: Re: Do i need licence for using mysql in my project ? Hi. On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 04:08:56PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys. I made system. it is based on php+apache+mysql. This system i would like to sell a Company. Must i or this Company buy any licence from mySQL AB to legally use mysql with apache+PHP in this system ? This is answered under http://www.mysql.com/doc/U/s/Using_the_MySQL_server_under_a_commercial_licen se.html This page answers your question with yes, if your program cannot run without MySQL. This is a topic under discussion sometimes. The official GPL FAQ says the following about this: http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl-faq.html#GPLInProprietarySystem If you want to be on the safe side or be fair (i.e. pay something back for what you got), purchasing a license is the thing to do. I need quickly an answer. Then you should have written to [EMAIL PROTECTED], which is the right address for such concerns (as explained in the manual). :-) Bye, Benjamin. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Tego nie znajdziesz w zadnym sklepie! [ http://oferty.onet.pl ] - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Do i need licence for using mysql in my project ?
Hi guys. I made system. it is based on php+apache+mysql. This system i would like to sell a Company. Must i or this Company buy any licence from mySQL AB to legally use mysql with apache+PHP in this system ? I need quickly an answer. Regards. I. Piasecki -- Okresl Swoje potrzeby - my znajdziemy oferte za Ciebie! [ http://oferty.onet.pl ] - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Do i need licence for using mysql in my project ?
Ireneusz, Monday, February 25, 2002, 5:08:56 PM, you wrote: IP Hi guys. IP I made system. it is based on php+apache+mysql. IP This system i would like to sell a Company. IP Must i or this Company buy any licence from mySQL AB to legally use mysql IP with apache+PHP in this system ? IP I need quickly an answer. Probably yes if MySQL is the only choice in SQL servers for this system to work with. Look at: https://order.mysql.com IP Regards. IP I. Piasecki -- For technical support contracts, goto https://order.mysql.com/ This email is sponsored by Ensita.net http://www.ensita.net/ __ ___ ___ __ / |/ /_ __/ __/ __ \/ /Egor Egorov / /|_/ / // /\ \/ /_/ / /__ [EMAIL PROTECTED] /_/ /_/\_, /___/\___\_\___/ MySQL AB / Ensita.net ___/ www.mysql.com - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: Do i need licence for using mysql in my project ?
Hi. On Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 04:08:56PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys. I made system. it is based on php+apache+mysql. This system i would like to sell a Company. Must i or this Company buy any licence from mySQL AB to legally use mysql with apache+PHP in this system ? This is answered under http://www.mysql.com/doc/U/s/Using_the_MySQL_server_under_a_commercial_license.html This page answers your question with yes, if your program cannot run without MySQL. This is a topic under discussion sometimes. The official GPL FAQ says the following about this: http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl-faq.html#GPLInProprietarySystem If you want to be on the safe side or be fair (i.e. pay something back for what you got), purchasing a license is the thing to do. I need quickly an answer. Then you should have written to [EMAIL PROTECTED], which is the right address for such concerns (as explained in the manual). :-) Bye, Benjamin. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
What Licence of Mysql Win32 is Free ?
I'need know what version of MySQL running in Windows, is free licence ? Thanks ! - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
About licence
Hi I am a 5th year student of University of Technology in Poznan (Poland). I would like to use MySQL in commerce project (Internet Auction). I will develope my Auction in Linux. Have I buy a licence from you ??? How many it cost. Pleace answer me, it is very important for me. Thank you. Piotrek -- Codzienne streszczenie prasy podatkowej, wzory formularzy a takze aktualne wskazniki i stawki. Odwiedzajac http://podatek.getin.pl/ jestes zawsze dobrze poinformowany! - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: About licence
On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 10:34:38AM +0100, Piotr Szybiak wrote: I am a 5th year student of University of Technology in Poznan (Poland). I would like to use MySQL in commerce project (Internet Auction). I will develope my Auction in Linux. Have I buy a licence from you ??? How many it cost. Pleace answer me, it is very important for me. Thank you. Piotrek MySQL is now under the GPL. So if you want to spend the money, you can purchase a support contract from mysql.com. There are details on their site. Jeremy -- Jeremy D. Zawodny, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical Yahoo - Yahoo Finance Desk: (408) 328-7878Fax: (408) 530-5454 Cell: (408) 439-9951 - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Re: About licence
Hi, MySQL is distributed under GPL. That means it's free of charge. You can find and download the current version of MySQL at http://www.mysql.com/downloads/mysql-3.23.html How ever, do ask that Commercial Users take out one of our many support options to allow us to pay for the continued development of MySQL. Regards, Jorge MySQL Development Team __ ___ __ __ / |/ /_ __/ __/ __ \/ / Jorge del Conde [EMAIL PROTECTED] / /|_/ / // /\ \/ /_/ / /__ MySQL AB, http://www.mysql.com/ /_/ /_/\_, /___/\___\_\/ Mexico City, Mexico ___/ - Original Message - From: "Piotr Szybiak" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 3:34 AM Subject: About licence Hi I am a 5th year student of University of Technology in Poznan (Poland). I would like to use MySQL in commerce project (Internet Auction). I will develope my Auction in Linux. Have I buy a licence from you ??? How many it cost. Pleace answer me, it is very important for me. Thank you. Piotrek -- Codzienne streszczenie prasy podatkowej, wzory formularzy a takze aktualne wskazniki i stawki. Odwiedzajac http://podatek.getin.pl/ jestes zawsze dobrze poinformowany! - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php
Question regarding portability and licence
I am an independent web developer working on a web based application that I plan on giving to companies to use to track certain activities. I am currently developing this application using ASP and VB and integrating it into an MS SQL server. I have some companies using MS SQL, some using ORACLE and some with nothing. For my Clients with nothing, I was wondering how hard it would be to port my application to mySQL while maintaining the same functionality as ORACLE and MS SQL? Furthermore, what License, if any, would the company need to run mySQL? They would use it on their web server only (some on Apache some on NT/2000.) Thanks in advance for your help and your responses Waldo B.
