[newbie] Keyboard and Xman Problem
Hello, i have bought Linux Mandrake 6.0 in germany. There are a few problems : 1. The Home and End keys doesn't work correct in KDE konsole. It only beeps when i press Home or End. When i start the Midnight Commander out of the KDE konsole and edit a file and press Home a 'H' appears, pressing End show a 'F' . 2. XMan doesn't show the man-pages. Only garbage... Bye... Andre
Re: [newbie] Installing
Andy Goth wrote: Best way is to find out what kind it is,but the next best is to look closely at the bottom.and see how many jumpers there are on it,on most drives there's only one,and that will be in the master position already,so just move the jumper over one set of pins and you should be in slave position. Sometimes you run into a drive that has a pin you need to add to slave it,but not all that often. look close for ma/sl/cs near the pins,master/slave/cable select It should get it up and running in no time I remember seeing six pins, one jumper block, and no text. What kind of drive was it? The name "Quantum" sounds familiar. I'll look up its jumper block diagram (I have a bunch of them in the Ontrack help system). Okay... I picked the 170MB one. Here! +---+ Power - ¦ ¦ ¦ Connection +-¦ ¦ ¦ ¦CS SP ¦ Data -- ¦ ¦| DS|¦ Cable¦ ¦| | |¦ Connection ¦ ¦o o o¦ ¦ ¦o o o¦ +---+ Install jumpers on the jumper blocks as follows: Master / No slave present ¦ DS Master / Slave present¦ DS or DS, SP Slave ¦ None Next time I open up my computer, I'll verify whether or not it's a Quantum drive. If it is, I'll remove the jumper block (see the slave setting). I'll look up the other drive's settings and make it a master disk. Also, I'll have to change their location on the data cable. Is that right? The middle position is the slave. Right? That means I'll have to move things around a little bit in order to make everything fit. If possible, I'll free up the second half-height bay (in case I get a 5 1/4" floppy disk drive or something). I also read up on why there needs to be a driver saved in the MBR. Well, it's to load the Dynamic Drive Overlay. Quote: ^---^-^-- [DDO] "An Ontrack software driver that eliminates limitations of a system's BIOS and allows installation of large drives that could otherwise not be installed to full capacity." Then why the hell can't I access a large partition!?! The disk is formatted with the Ontrack Proprietary Format, which is to disallow access to the disk until the DDO is loaded. The explanation is that the DDO prevents accesses over the 1024th cylinder to wrap around back to the first cylinder. The OPF doesn't want to allow that to happen, so it makes sure that no ordinary BIOS can touch the disk. Must I load the DDO, or should I split up the disk into 1024 cylinder-sized partitions, forget about the DDO, and use standard BIOS formatting? How do I find the size of a cylinder, anyway? A problem presented by the DDO is "the operating system must not require special code in the MBR." LILO? Perhaps I can put LILO into the primary partition, put DOS and Windows into that partition, and put Linux on another partition. Sorry about the long mail, but I had things I needed to say. The drive you have drawn out is an ata,which sort of works backwards from the 'normal' drive on that on you pull all of the jumpers to make it a slave,and move it depending on whether there is another drive present.on a 'normal' drive,you'll still have the same set of six pins,but you'd want to move the jumper to the center set I looked through my bookmarks,and came up with some hard drive/jumpersetting places you may want to check out. www.jps.net/rustyw2/harddriv.htm ,and www.jps.net/rustyw2/jumpers.htm ,or www.bookcase.com/library/techref/harddrive can't remember if the second 'd' was uppersase or not on that one. merc.
Re: [newbie] old mail
On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Lloyd Osten wrote: Today I received two messages from this list dated July 12 (today is the 21st) Strange.anyone else have that happen? Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED] yep.stuff happens no problemo here though good thing I did'nt email my isp with a complaint, looks like the whole list got it :) John Love [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Login Background
On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Andy Goth wrote: Eh, personaly i'd have just installed aciddraw onto my dosemu image ;) Aciddraw? And what does dosemu have to do with this? Well, Acid Draw is a dos program and I bet Axalon dos not waste space on his machine with dos or windoze :) John Love [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Sound -- probably revisited.
So did you or didn't you hear Linus? Seth At 08:21 PM 7/21/99 -0500, you wrote: Oh yes, that was the first thing that I ran. It seems to have no effect at all. :( On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Matt Stegman wrote: Have you run 'sndconfig' yet? -Matt On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Beo d'Wulfie wrote: The soundcard I'm using is a sb16. It doesn't work. I've gone through the help docs and followed their instructions but still no go. Can anyone help with this??? A few things to note: - Yes, the speakers are turned on. - Yes, the system bell does come through the internal speaker. - No, I don't know how to decompress a module or recompile a kernal, but I'm a quick study and will find out how if this is what it takes to correct the problem. Beo the newly frustrated. ---Beo d'Wulfie 'We all enter this world in the same way: naked; screaming; soaked in blood. But if you live your life right, that kind of thing doesn't have to stop there.'
Re: [newbie] Keyboard and Xman Problem
On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, you wrote: Hello, i have bought Linux Mandrake 6.0 in germany. There are a few problems : 1. The Home and End keys doesn't work correct in KDE konsole. It only beeps when i press Home or End. When i start the Midnight Commander out of the KDE konsole and edit a file and press Home a 'H' appears, pressing End show a 'F' . 2. XMan doesn't show the man-pages. Only garbage... Bye... Andre I think the default key bindings can be changed. -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Installing
On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, you wrote: Actually, it sounds like you just need to edit your lilo.conf file. There's a section on how to do that in the Mandrake docs on the CD, which you can view with a web browser. After editing the file, you must run lilo again, i.e., /sbin/lilo When the boot prompt comes up (LILO boot:), hit the "Tab" key. This will give you a choice of OS you can boot. Type in the one you want (dos, Win95, Linux, or whatever you have) at the prompt and hit enter. I already have set up LILO on the laptop with Mandrake on it, so I know how to mess with things like the default operating system. How do I install LILO on a different disk? How do I make sure it doesn't trash the Ontrack program? PS: If you actually have Win95 installed, I'm surprised you need Ontrack Disk Manager at all. Most of the time I just boot into DOS. Windows 95 is horribly slow, and my programs are DOS based. My BIOS (AMI) is over 5 years old and I had a 7G drive in here with no additional software. Was your 3G drive formatted with LBA? It SHOULD have been if it wasn't.Does your BIOS have an LBA setting? However changing it now without reformatting your drive will probably make it unreadable. LBA? I am dealing with a 1993 computer. Mine is 1994.LBA is Logical (or Linear) Block Addressing. All new IDE HDs support it. My 1995 WD does. It's just a different way of numbering the heads, sectors and tracks. I'm pretty sure it does translation, too. Maybe there's a BIOS update for your motherboard-assuming it has a flash rom on it (but from that era, I kinda doubt it. -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Oh, yeah
On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, you wrote: I heard that I should have two Linux partitions. Can anyone give me more information on this? You need a bare minimum of two partitions for Linux. One will be your root partition and the other partition will be your swap partition. It is HIGHLY RECOMMENDED that you use a swap partition. -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Oh, yeah
On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, you wrote: Andy Goth wrote: mind. If only I could map "\Program Files" to be on a different partition... Of course, such things are trivially easy in Linux... Wonder why Microsoft chose such a half-assed method of drive management... Because they're Microsoft and want to make things as easy as possible for the computer illiterate. Just another reason we use something superior. We basically have total control over where stuff goes. I personally don't put my programs in there. -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] XFree86
On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, you wrote: I cna runxf86 under root only if i try and run it under any other user i get a an authenication error. Anyone know how to fix this? I know there's a program called mkxauth or something like that.I assume that's what it's for (MK X Authentication) At least that seems logical to me. You might want to check it out. -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Oh, yeah
I heard that I should have two Linux partitions. Can anyone give me more information on this? Sure. You should have one partition for files, and another for swapping. Of course, you can distribute your file system between several partitions- I have /home on a separate partition so that when I format / to install Mandrake 6.1, I won't lose all my personal files. On a side note, would it be possible to selectively install 6.1 RPMs on my 6.0 system? So that I don't have to re-format / anyway? mind. If only I could map "\Program Files" to be on a different partition... Of course, such things are trivially easy in Linux... Wonder why Microsoft chose such a half-assed method of drive management... Probably for the same reason DOS can only use 640kB RAM. I can hear it now... "Nobody will ever have a drive larger than 2GB!" -Matt
[newbie] MandrakeUpdate.pm Script File
Is it possible to edit the MandrakeUpdate.pm script file so that it will
update the system using the rpms from the 'cooker' directory instead
of the 'updates' directory?
well, yes, though not very easily...
but i'm in a nice day :) here is patch for /usr/X11R6/bin/MandrakeUpdate.pm :
--- /usr/X11R6/bin/MandrakeUpdate.pmWed May 19 02:50:52 1999
+++ /tmp/MandrakeUpdate.pm Thu Jul 22 15:32:14 1999
@@ -30,13 +30,11 @@
open F, "find . -name '*.rpm' |";
@to_update = map { chop; $_ } F;
} else {
- open F, "wget --passive-ftp $mirror/updates/$version/ls-lR -O - |";
+ my $sub = "cooker/Mandrake/RPMS";
+ open F, "wget --passive-ftp $mirror/$sub/ -O - |";
foreach (F) {
- if (/^([^ ]+):$/) {
- $rep = "updates/$version/$1";
- } elsif (/^-/) {
- $rep =~ /SRPMS/ and next;
- $name = (split ' ', $_)[8] and push @to_update, "$rep/$name";
+ if (m|([^]*)/a|) {
+ push @to_update, "$sub/$1";
}
}
}
you also have to manually edit your ~/.mandrake-update to point to a cooker
directory (eg mirror: ftp://ftp.ciril.fr/pub/linux/mandrake-devel)
Also, is there any way I can get the script file to clean-up and delete the
files from the '/tmp' directory after the update is completed.
well, yes, though not very easily...
you must modify the MandrakeUpdate.c and recompile it. You just have to add an
unlink...
But maybe you can wait until i release a new version :)
removing the files from tmp we'll be one of the new ``feature''.
Thanks in advance..
Hope it helps, cu Pixel.
Re: [newbie] Problems with Banshee chip
On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, you wrote: %_Hi people: recently I had a problem with a "Diamond Monster Fusion" 16Mb AGP (Chip Banshee) I have Mandrake 6.0 and unfortunally Mandrake does not provide driver for banshee chips so I downloaded one from www.linuxberg.com and they worked almost ok, and I mean "almost" because I'm able to use the XFree86 but when I try to load kdm the server doesn't work. I only know how to start gnome from the KDM LOGIN Interface so please if u got any idea just msg me TIA Ezequiel Santamaria http://developer.soundblaster.com/linux/ has "beta" drivers for the Banshee. Other X servers available from Htp://glide.xxedgexx.com/3DfxRPMS_vb_glibc.html according to Creative Labs. You may need to lie to their website in order to get that information, so if you DON'T get where you think you're supposed to go on CL's website, you might want to lie to them about where you're coming from. :-) OTOH, if I understand internet domain naming conventions correctly, .ar means Argentina? If that's the case, you'll use the same website that I do anyway. :-)
RE: [newbie] Oh, yeah
Dan wrote: Andy Goth wrote: mind. If only I could map "\Program Files" to be on a different partition... Of course, such things are trivially easy in Linux... Wonder why Microsoft chose such a half-assed method of drive management... -- Dan Brown, KE6MKS, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. Bad drive management / bad corporate management, hmm, could there be a connection??? Joe application/ms-tnef
Re: [newbie] Installing
How do I install LILO on a different disk? How do I make sure it doesn't trash the Ontrack program? Well, the "boot=..." line tells LILO where to put itself- in the MBR of the specified drive, or in the boot sector of the specified partition. As for trashing the Ontrack program, there's one idea I have to get around it. I'll explain in detail at the end. LBA? Has to do with the low-level format of the drive. I believe LBA is the (de facto) standard way to get around the 1024 cylinder limit. Then again, I often don't know as much as I think I do, so somebody help me if I'm wrong. At any rate, I'm sure that this wouldn't be a problem with only 3GB. I think you can address either 8 or 8.4GB with 1024 cylinders. I am dealing with a 1993 computer. Honestly, I'd recommend you upgrade it. Go out, look for a "bare bones system" with CPU, M/B, RAM. I found really good prices (and systems) at http://www.shoppingplanet.com (where I got my computer). Then put your old cards in the new computer, and you can upgrade the rest of the hardware at your leisure. What's the difference between an extended partition and the other kind? The kind that would be called hdb2? An extended partition can contain multiple partitions (logical drives) inside it. For a more detailed explanation see http://www.harris-lp.k12.ia.us/hlp/~jws/~jws/comp/PCInfo/Boot/DEFAULT.HTM (click on the "Partitions and Volumes" link first). I was looking for a better page, but couldn't find one. Still, this one's not bad. The disk is formatted with the Ontrack Proprietary Format... Which means that if you ever want to access it without their special driver, you'll have to reformat it- WITHOUT USING THEIR FORMAT. As long as you don't have any data you want to keep, you shoul dbe able to do this. A problem presented by the DDO is "the operating system must not require special code in the MBR." LILO? Yup. Of course, it [LILO] doesn't _have_ to go in the MBR. Perhaps I can put LILO into the primary partition, put DOS and Windows into that partition, and put Linux on another partition. Not a bad idea- in fact, this is what I was thinking you might try (if you still want to use this OnTrack thing). In lilo.conf, set the boot= to a primary partiton. It doesn't particularly matter which one (if you have multiple primary partitions, which I don't think DOS likes too much). Run cfdisk and make sure that partition, and NO OTHER ONE, is "Bootable" (meaning active in DOS terms). Run /sbin/lilo and reboot. LILO should come up, prompting for the image to boot. As long as boot= is set to a partition, not a drive (/dev/hda1, not /dev/hda) LILO will stay off the MBR. table=/dev/hda #Pass this partition table table to the other OS What does that last line mean? I'm not entirely sure myself. I think that by passing the partition table on to the other OS, it lets that OS know which drive it's being booted from (I guess some operatig systems aren't smart enough to figure this out on their own- *snicker*). -Matt
[newbie] Re: none
Robert Sheskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a little log analysis perl script that I am trying to run. When starting form a terminal it works fine with the following in an executable script; #! /bin/bash echo "Mail Stats Log Analysis" echo "" su - root -c "DISPLAY=$DISPLAY; export DISPLAY; aterm -bg black -fg yellow -e perl /usr/bin/sm.logger" When I setup a desktop shortcut and run the same thing with terminal window checked I a quick screen flash of the window and it is gone. How do I keep it around? pipe it through less, or add 'STDIN' at the end of the script cu Pixel.
[newbie] Extracting GZ File
How do I extract or decompress a gz file? For example if the filename is file.gz, what the command line should be looked like? thanx
Re: [newbie] Extracting GZ File
"-=Memphis=-" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How do I extract or decompress a gz file? For example if the filename is file.gz, what the command line should be looked like? thanx gunzip file.gz for extracting. zcat file.gz for reading it. or zless file.gz
RE: [newbie] Extracting GZ File
i go gunzip file.gz then if it ends in tar, i use tar -xvf file.tar -Original Message- From: -=Memphis=- [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 23, 1999 7:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Extracting GZ File How do I extract or decompress a gz file? For example if the filename is file.gz, what the command line should be looked like? thanx
Re: [newbie] Downloading Files
On Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:02:43 -0500, "Andrew R. Etzler" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been trying to download the KxICQ file in Netscape 4.6. Previously this has not been a problem. Just in the last day, instead of asking where it should save the file to, it simply downloads the file into the browser, giving me all sorts of gibberish. Has anyone run into this problem? Any suggestions for how I can correct it? Right click on the file and choose save as. __ / ) +--+ ( \ / / | | \ \ _( ( | _ Robert Sheskin _ | ) )_ (((\ \ |/ )[EMAIL PROTECTED]( \| / /))) ( \_/ /ICQ:5788323 \ \_/ ) \ / AIM:RobertLS \/ \_/ \_ / / / +--+ \\ / /\\
[newbie] Mono X Server
I've got an old luggable computer with a Hercules mono display. It now has a new Pentium board, large hard disk, zip-drive, etc... It's a super Linux machine. Will this thing run KDE and Gnome with the Hercules display card? How do I do it? Thanks, Don.
Re: [newbie] Login Background
On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Andy Goth wrote: http://www.acid.org doing ansi by hand is a long drawn out proccess i personaly do not enjoy. I'm downloading it now. Is it anything like TheDraw? In the sense that it is an ansi drawing program yes, I'd say all similarity ends there. It has a much larger working area, allowing for all those awesome pics you'll find linked there also. As always, your Framebuffer console advocate, I recommend viewing these via console running in atleast 1280x1024x24 for maximum plesure :)
Re: [newbie] My turn with printing problems
Do you own a hammer? On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Ty C. Mixon wrote: Ok, but it's with Star Office 5.1. I can print a test page from the printer setup screens, but no documents print. Any ideas? -- Ty C. Mixon ICQ #: 26147713 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Downloading Files
"Andrew R. Etzler" wrote: I've been trying to download the KxICQ file in Netscape 4.6. Previously this has not been a problem. Just in the last day, instead of asking where it should save the file to, it simply downloads the file into the browser, giving me all sorts of gibberish. Has anyone run into this problem? Any suggestions for how I can correct it? TIA Andy Etzler Right click on the file name and choose "save as" You may have installed some program (RealPlayer?) which got "rpm" linked to it, so ns will try to open it. bye, willy
Re: [newbie] old mail
Somebody kick the mailer over there please, i'm going to find this anoying here sooner or later. On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Bert Bullough wrote: it's the list, i check this on 2 different machines using 2 different clients. the same thing happened to me "Ty C. Mixon" wrote: I've been noticing it too, but wasn't sure if it was the list, or KMail, as I just switced to an all Linux system. (For me anyhow.) On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, you wrote: Today I received two messages from this list dated July 12 (today is the 21st) Strange.anyone else have that happen? Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ty C. Mixon ICQ #: 26147713 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] problème de modem
If it is their PCI modem it won't work they do make serveral isa modems that are useable, and any drivers will never be in the mainstream kernel Both Linus Torvalds and Alan Cox have stated such. On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Andy Goth wrote: Thank you for your answer. By the way you understood the whole question very well. Cool. My modem is an Olitec 56k, and I bought it 3 days ago. Did you intend to use it with Linux when you got it? Do you have the ability to exchange it for another one that's more Linux-friendly? I heard that it did only work with windows, but that some people were working on a special driver that could make it work with linux. Did you hear of it ?? No. I haven't heard. When did you find out that it was Windows-only? Try using it in DOS (with no Windows running)--if you have DOS. It shouldn't work if it's a Winmodem.
Re: [newbie] Downloading Files
I had this problem a couple of times. The easy solution is to right click on the link and choose 'save as . . .' Ty Original Message On 7/22/99, 7:02:43 AM, "Andrew R. Etzler" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding [newbie] Downloading Files: I've been trying to download the KxICQ file in Netscape 4.6. Previously this has not been a problem. Just in the last day, instead of asking where it should save the file to, it simply downloads the file into the browser, giving me all sorts of gibberish. Has anyone run into this problem? Any suggestions for how I can correct it? TIA Andy Etzler
Re: [newbie] Downloading Files
This is a fault of Netscape. It foten thinks that binary files are actually text files, and so loads the binary file into the browser, giving you plenty of gibberish. It has something to do with file extensions and MIME types on the server, and I'm not sure if you can configure Netscape to override them (i.e. specify *.rpm, *.gz, *.bz2, etc. as binaries). Anyway, what you CAN do is hold down SHIFT while you click the link. That will tell Netscape that no matter what, you want to save the target of this link, not display it whether it be binary, text, or unspecified). -Matt On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Andrew R. Etzler wrote: I've been trying to download the KxICQ file in Netscape 4.6. Previously this has not been a problem. Just in the last day, instead of asking where it should save the file to, it simply downloads the file into the browser, giving me all sorts of gibberish. Has anyone run into this problem? Any suggestions for how I can correct it? TIA Andy Etzler
Re: [newbie] Extracting GZ File
tar xvcf filename "-=Memphis=-" wrote: How do I extract or decompress a gz file? For example if the filename is file.gz, what the command line should be looked like? thanx
Re: [newbie] Extracting GZ File
Morpheus The Sinful Weeper [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: tar xvcf filename uh x and c in the same command :-o
Re: [newbie] Extracting GZ File
On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, you wrote: How do I extract or decompress a gz file? For example if the filename is file.gz, what the command line should be looked like? thanx If you want to extract it for installation, you'd run gunzip filename or gunzip -r filename if you suspect that you're unzipping a compressed directory (often source code will be distributed as a compressed directory known as a "tarball." A "tarball" is more often a *.tar.gz or *.tgz file.)
Re: [newbie] Extracting GZ File
On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, you wrote: How do I extract or decompress a gz file? For example if the filename is file.gz, what the command line should be looked like? thanx PS -- type "man gunzip" at a console prompt for more details.
Re: [newbie] My turn with printing problems
That option had come to mind, however, I did something (only the Gods know) and it works now. :) I'm even using it for e-mail, as I like the integrated system. Maybe when Koffice comes out I'll switch to it. My only real gripe with SO right now is that I don't like the way it handles mail folders. It saves the mail as a separate file so that if I turn my rules on to put everything into it's own folders (convenient with mail lists) then I can't just read the mail in a preview pane. I have to open it in an individual window. Too much effort when I check my mail twice a day (minimum) and get 30+ e-mails at once. Need to find the signature settings too . . . Ty Original Message On 7/22/99, 8:23:53 AM, Axalon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: [newbie] My turn with printing problems: Do you own a hammer? On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Ty C. Mixon wrote: Ok, but it's with Star Office 5.1. I can print a test page from the printer setup screens, but no documents print. Any ideas? -- Ty C. Mixon ICQ #: 26147713 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Oh, yeah
Andy Goth wrote: mind. If only I could map "\Program Files" to be on a different partition... I don't put things there, unless forced. It is a path embedded in so many install tools, though, that you have to be vigilant when you install, and some programs will give you no choice. There is a tool called Magic Mover, which comes with Partition Magic. It does a great job of moving Windows apps and repairing registry entries. It can't handle the special cases which occur in connection with \Program Files, however. William Meyer Hoping life under Linux will be easier than under Windows
[newbie] Mandrake Kernel Configuration File
Hello list. Does anybody have a configuration file for the 2.2.9 kernel tht comes with Mandrake 6.0 ? I'd like to rebuilt it with new options/modules, but I'd also like to avoid the loss of other settings. Thanks. Dominique
RE: [newbie] Downloading Files
Use Save Link As under File on the menu bar -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andrew R. Etzler Sent: Thursday, July 22, 1999 7:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Downloading Files I've been trying to download the KxICQ file in Netscape 4.6. Previously this has not been a problem. Just in the last day, instead of asking where it should save the file to, it simply downloads the file into the browser, giving me all sorts of gibberish. Has anyone run into this problem? Any suggestions for how I can correct it? TIA Andy Etzler
[newbie] modem
i had a 56k cardinal isa modem that i could never get to respond in kde. even tho statserial said it had a modem on cua3. now i have put a 336 isa in there and statserial says its on cua2, but the ppp program still gets no response from the modemthis is the only thing holding me back from deleting windows which i really want to do...please help
[newbie] Lilo problem
I installed Linux on a 400MHz PII. It has three drives, 2 SCSI, and 1 IDE. Windows 98 is on the IDE, and Linux is on the SCSI. My problem is as follows: I can boot from a floppy, but not into Windows. When I boot from the IDE drive which has lilo installed, all i get is repeating 10 10 10... can anyone help me? ** Josh Fornwall [EMAIL PROTECTED] PAGER: [EMAIL PROTECTED] **
Re: [newbie] Oh, yeah
On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, you wrote: Lloyd Osten wrote: On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, you wrote: Andy Goth wrote: mind. If only I could map "\Program Files" to be on a different partition... Of course, such things are trivially easy in Linux... Wonder why Microsoft chose such a half-assed method of drive management... Because they're Microsoft and want to make things as easy as possible for the computer illiterate. Just another reason we use something superior. We basically have total control over where stuff goes. I personally don't put my programs in there. -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yeah but that's also why the average person will keep buying microsoft,a lot of people I've run into consider a windows installation as being a challenging experience.and as long as windows is easier to set up,and run,people will continue to put money in bill's pocket. merc. I didn't have any problem at all installing Mandrake. I thought it was at least as easy as Windows. Getting it to boot was a whole different story. With some help from thislist, I eventually narrowed it down to quirky hardware. A small change with vi and it's been good since, except for one Kmail thing. - Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [newbie] Extracting GZ File
On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, you wrote: i go gunzip file.gz then if it ends in tar, i use tar -xvf file.tar -Original Message- From: -=Memphis=- [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 23, 1999 7:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Extracting GZ File How do I extract or decompress a gz file? For example if the filename is file.gz, what the command line should be looked like? thanx Actually, you can uzip and untar the file all at once. I think the command is tar zxvf filename Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] sndconfig utility has misleading information
Joe Patton wrote: One other question for Mandrake: Where do I find my registration number? I tried to fill out the online registration form, but I cannot find any information in the documentation that came with the software to tell my what my registration number is. Can't help with the first part, but when I got my boxed Mandrake 5.3, it came with a couple pieces of loose paper, one of which had the registration number on it. (I don't know if it's the same for 6.0 or not.) - Theo
RE: [newbie] Kppp question
I wanted fixed-ip addresses for the local network. But I need dynamic IP for the isp. -Original Message- From: Lloyd Osten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 1999 2:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Kppp question On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, you wrote: I've a small 2-node network, with fixed IP addresses. When I start Kppp, it connects and authenticate correctly, but will not connect to any sites. The details screen shows that it is using the fixed IP address for the system. Yet in the Kppp setup, I have Dynamic IP checked, auto-configure host name is NOT checked, the domain and dns address lists are correct (xxx.net, and two xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx ip addresses). The gateway default is checked, assign default route to this gateway is checked. What's the next stage necessary to get the system to use the dynamic IP address assigned from the isp? (or what have I mis-configured?) Thanks for the assistance. Bill If you really do have fixed IP addresses, why do you have dynamic IP checked? -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] disk druid
There isn't, the code is on your cd under misc/src/ should you feel adventurous. On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what's the command to run disk druid from a terminal?
RE: [newbie] Kppp question
Dont set a default route for your localnet if it only has one route it will use it, i am unsure why sometimes ppp refuses to replace the exsisting route. On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Bill Moshier wrote: I wanted fixed-ip addresses for the local network. But I need dynamic IP for the isp. -Original Message- From: Lloyd Osten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 1999 2:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Kppp question On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, you wrote: I've a small 2-node network, with fixed IP addresses. When I start Kppp, it connects and authenticate correctly, but will not connect to any sites. The details screen shows that it is using the fixed IP address for the system. Yet in the Kppp setup, I have Dynamic IP checked, auto-configure host name is NOT checked, the domain and dns address lists are correct (xxx.net, and two xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx ip addresses). The gateway default is checked, assign default route to this gateway is checked. What's the next stage necessary to get the system to use the dynamic IP address assigned from the isp? (or what have I mis-configured?) Thanks for the assistance. Bill If you really do have fixed IP addresses, why do you have dynamic IP checked? -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Downloading Files
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Well Netscape has to get the blame partially but a big part of the blame has also to go to the guys administering the webserver as well. There is a file called mime.types (it is there in linux systems as well probably under the conf dir in httpd). Soemtimes stuff like rpm and gz tgz etc are not registered there properly thus causing the webserver to send it out as default (which happens to be text) In windows IE does a better job handling stuff that comes in (it think it checks the extension with the associated applications etc) but netscape will take what the webserver gives u. Okay that's my 2 cents... On 22-Jul-99 Matt Stegman wrote: This is a fault of Netscape. It foten thinks that binary files are actually text files, and so loads the binary file into the browser, giving you plenty of gibberish. It has something to do with file extensions and MIME types on the server, and I'm not sure if you can configure Netscape to override them (i.e. specify *.rpm, *.gz, *.bz2, etc. as binaries). Anyway, what you CAN do is hold down SHIFT while you click the link. That will tell Netscape that no matter what, you want to save the target of this link, not display it whether it be binary, text, or unspecified). -Matt On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Andrew R. Etzler wrote: I've been trying to download the KxICQ file in Netscape 4.6. Previously this has not been a problem. Just in the last day, instead of asking where it should save the file to, it simply downloads the file into the browser, giving me all sorts of gibberish. Has anyone run into this problem? Any suggestions for how I can correct it? TIA Andy Etzler - - PGP Public Key : http://jackal.dhis.org/jackal.txt http://pgp5.ai.mit.edu/pks-commands.html ICQ # : 38756924 Q: What do Winnie the Pooh and John the Baptist have in common? A: The same middle name. - - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use Charset: noconv iQA/AwUBN5e6td/tgTsNXrtmEQKL8wCdFy6WrEthQ66x+NZmcU0XlhXi3yMAniSz jEK8F6qocWfoRygu2g+7bs1g =N+7z -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[newbie] Mandrake... (fwd)
Can anyone answer this question for me? Can you run Mandrake on a Mac? If not can you run ANY version of Linux on a Mac? -Bill -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 20:36:27 -0500 From: Arthur Katz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mandrake... I'm a Mac nut, and I've heard that linux can be installed on a Mac. True? I attended the Mac expo in New York today, but the nerds running the booth wouldn't talk to me. They were so deep in conversation with other nerds, having a war about which Linux was best.
[newbie] hardware
Ok, I'm gonna be upgrading a large amount of my hardware and need to make sure I buy linux compatible hardware. Most notable I'm gonna be getting a new modem, vid card, NIC, and something else I seem to be missing. Is there a website I can go to and check if all the hardware I'm looking into getting is supported?
Re: [newbie] Extracting GZ File
On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, you wrote: How do I extract or decompress a gz file? For example if the filename is file.gz, what the command line should be looked like? thanx One step tar -zxvf filename -- Michael Doyle Adelaide, South Australia
Re: [newbie] Get rid of theme from outside KDE
Thanks Axalon, I actually discovered another (I don't know, if recommended - but it worked for me) method: I deleted my "~/.kde/share/config" dir and KDE asked me simply "do I need new config?". Thanks, Sean Brzozowski Axalon wrote: mv ~/.kde ~/dot-kde.backup On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Sean Brzozowski wrote: Somebody heeelp, How can I get rid of the theme from the prompt. I installed one and now can't start KDE _at all_. TIA Sean Brzozowski
[newbie] SBlive in Mandrake 2.2.9
Have any one working SBlive with with mandrake 6.0 kernel 2.2.9 if so please help to make it work please. Thanks in advance... Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
[newbie] Initio SCSI card
I have been trying very hard to get Mandrake 6.0 to see my Initio 9100 SCSI card. Has anyone gotten this to work? I have tried the disks for Red Hat 6.0 at the Initio site. I have tried doing a modprove and adding it to my /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit file. I have also tried adding the alias command to my conf.modules file. All of these have not worked. With the Red Hat disks it saw the SCSI card and the drive, but I get a kernel panic when I try to load it. I think that has to do with going from Red Hat to Mandrake. If anyone has any ideas on this can you please let me know because I really need to have this drive running ASAP. Thanks for reading! Ed Smiley Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com
[newbie] lilo netscape
Hi all, first let me thank Civileme for the info for a digest form of this list. Now the questions: 1- is there a way to get Lilo to give me a choice about booting w98 or linux? I have it set to allow me to type Dos in at the boot prompt, But I would like it to wait for me to respond. 2- Now to biggie. I use Kde and want to use Netscape. I have gotten Kppp to launch my isp (Earthlink.net) but I cant get on the net or get mail. does any one have tutorial for configuring Netscape for Earthlink.net. This is my first experience with Linux. I'm using Mandrake. I've ordered O'Reilly Assoc. but I'd really like to get on now. TIA -- Ric Cooney, N3BRB [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aquatic Gardeners Association Baltimore, MD
Re: [newbie] Mandrake... (fwd)
On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, hevnsnt wrote: Can anyone answer this question for me? Can you run Mandrake on a Mac? If not can you run ANY version of Linux on a Mac? -Bill I believe there is a work in progress for a Mandrake iMac(tm), all though the website(http://www.imandrake.com) seems to link back to the linux-mandrake homepage currently. There are several PPC compiled linux distributions in various stages of development. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 20:36:27 -0500 From: Arthur Katz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mandrake... I'm a Mac nut, and I've heard that linux can be installed on a Mac. True? I attended the Mac expo in New York today, but the nerds running the booth wouldn't talk to me. They were so deep in conversation with other nerds, having a war about which Linux was best.
Re: [newbie] Get rid of theme from outside KDE
sorry directions were to short, if you create a backup you can then use 'diff' to hunt down the actual problem. On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, Sean Brzozowski wrote: Thanks Axalon, I actually discovered another (I don't know, if recommended - but it worked for me) method: I deleted my "~/.kde/share/config" dir and KDE asked me simply "do I need new config?". Thanks, Sean Brzozowski Axalon wrote: mv ~/.kde ~/dot-kde.backup On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Sean Brzozowski wrote: Somebody heeelp, How can I get rid of the theme from the prompt. I installed one and now can't start KDE _at all_. TIA Sean Brzozowski
Re: [newbie] Mandrake... (fwd)
On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, you wrote: Can anyone answer this question for me? Can you run Mandrake on a Mac? If not can you run ANY version of Linux on a Mac? -Bill -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 20:36:27 -0500 From: Arthur Katz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mandrake... I'm a Mac nut, and I've heard that linux can be installed on a Mac. True? I attended the Mac expo in New York today, but the nerds running the booth wouldn't talk to me. They were so deep in conversation with other nerds, having a war about which Linux was best. yes, there are some versions that run on a Mac, like LinuxPPc, Mklinux, and Yellow Dog Linux -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Oh, yeah
Lloyd Osten wrote: On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, you wrote: Lloyd Osten wrote: On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, you wrote: Andy Goth wrote: mind. If only I could map "\Program Files" to be on a different partition... Of course, such things are trivially easy in Linux... Wonder why Microsoft chose such a half-assed method of drive management... Because they're Microsoft and want to make things as easy as possible for the computer illiterate. Just another reason we use something superior. We basically have total control over where stuff goes. I personally don't put my programs in there. -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yeah but that's also why the average person will keep buying microsoft,a lot of people I've run into consider a windows installation as being a challenging experience.and as long as windows is easier to set up,and run,people will continue to put money in bill's pocket. merc. I didn't have any problem at all installing Mandrake. I thought it was at least as easy as Windows. Getting it to boot was a whole different story. With some help from thislist, I eventually narrowed it down to quirky hardware. A small change with vi and it's been good since, except for one Kmail thing. - Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mine went together alright,but the board is kind of flaky,It's working fine now. After a bit of tweaking with everything! I've run linux before,back in 95-97,but the system I was using then was a compaq deskpro,and there was a lot of stuff that I couldn't get to work right,(X primarily), and I had to boot off of a floppy,because of the way the computer itself was set up. merc
RE: [newbie] Mandrake... (fwd)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 There is Yellow Dog Linux for Apple macintosh G3 and then there is LinuxPPC and MkLinux for PowerMacs ... dont know if these fit your hardware ... not very familiar about macs... On 23-Jul-99 hevnsnt wrote: Can anyone answer this question for me? Can you run Mandrake on a Mac? If not can you run ANY version of Linux on a Mac? -Bill -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 20:36:27 -0500 From: Arthur Katz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mandrake... I'm a Mac nut, and I've heard that linux can be installed on a Mac. True? I attended the Mac expo in New York today, but the nerds running the booth wouldn't talk to me. They were so deep in conversation with other nerds, having a war about which Linux was best. - - PGP Public Key : http://jackal.dhis.org/jackal.txt http://pgp5.ai.mit.edu/pks-commands.html ICQ # : 38756924 So much depends upon a red wheel barrow glazed with rain water beside the white chickens. -- William Carlos Williams, "The Red Wheel Barrow" - - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use Charset: noconv iQA/AwUBN5fasd/tgTsNXrtmEQL9KwCgo6RWYNkp7CjUjKNXIiTu+5JObrYAn3wu BJ7J3Za1tiog+EbRopDnisAz =ls8n -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [newbie] Mandrake... (fwd)
I heard it put best just this morning actually. Yellow Dog Linux is the RedHat for Macs and Black Lab Linux is to Yellow Dog as Mandrake is to RedHat. Ty Mixon wrote: I don't think that there is a Mandrake version for Macs, but there is a Linux for Macs. Depends on what type of Mac you have as to which Linux you need. There is one for old Macs (M68k) and one for Power Macs (???) too. Ty Original Message On 7/22/99, 5:55:55 PM, hevnsnt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding [newbie] Mandrake... (fwd): Can anyone answer this question for me? Can you run Mandrake on a Mac? If not can you run ANY version of Linux on a Mac? -Bill -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 20:36:27 -0500 From: Arthur Katz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mandrake... I'm a Mac nut, and I've heard that linux can be installed on a Mac. True? I attended the Mac expo in New York today, but the nerds running the booth wouldn't talk to me. They were so deep in conversation with other nerds, having a war about which Linux was best.
[newbie] kernel re-compilation
I wonder if I can get help with recompiling my kernel in order to support ntfs file system. When I tried "make xconf" it failed saying there are no rules for target xconf. -- Regards, Periklis --- Periklis Christodoulou CSIRO Manufacturing Science Technology RD Manager, Queensland Manufacturing Institute P.O. Box 4012 Eight Mile Plains, Qld 4113 AUSTRALIA e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: +61 7 33640720 fax: +61 7 33640786 ---
Re: [newbie] Oh, yeah
I broke my disk up in 3 partitions. 2 Gig or so for "/root", 64M for "swap", and the balance (6Gig) for "/home". This allows me to reinstall (reformat :-0 ) the /root and swap and not touch any home (user) files What about /usr and all those other directories I am forgetting? So, what if I install some great package and then have to reformat and reinstall the OS? How can I salvage that great package?
Re: [newbie] Oh, yeah
Installing Mandrake is pretty easy since it uses all those cool Red Hat configurator programs. I'm sure Bill would like to discredit it by saying, "But that's text mode! Windows has the edge since it uses graphics." Edge? I really like text mode. Text mode graphics is fun to do since it's challenging and looks very smart when done right. Hmm. If a machine is named HTINT3, and the company is called HTI, can that mean that it's the third NT server? That would explain a lot about the trouble my dad has with dialing into work.
Re: [newbie] Oh, yeah
Probably for the same reason DOS can only use 640kB RAM. I can hear it now... "Nobody will ever have a drive larger than 2GB!" Correction: Nobody will ever BE ABLE TO have a drive larger than 2GB! That is, with DOS. I like learning about the internals of my computer. I try to learn all I can about everything I use. What is Linux's answer to the FAT?
Re: [newbie] Oh, yeah
mind. If only I could map "\Program Files" to be on a different partition... Of course, such things are trivially easy in Linux... Wonder why Microsoft chose such a half-assed method of drive management... Because they're Microsoft and want to make things as easy as possible for the computer illiterate. Just another reason we use something superior. We basically have total control over where stuff goes. I personally don't put my programs in there. I prefer D:\prog (since the C: is a cramped compressed volume and "prog" is much easier to type than "program files"). Unfortunately, some programs insist. Office was really bad. I did all I could to put it on the D:, but either most or all of it stuck in the C:. There probably should be some registry hack that allows the "Program Files" directory to be D:\prog or something similar. Does anyone know more? I want the OS partition for the OS and nothing more!
Re: [newbie] Oh, yeah
I heard that I should have two Linux partitions. Can anyone give me more information on this? You need a bare minimum of two partitions for Linux. One will be your root partition and the other partition will be your swap partition. It is HIGHLY RECOMMENDED that you use a swap partition. I forgot about the swap partition. I always make one, but I just never mentioned it. That'll be a total of five partitions on one hard disk. I can't do that without extended partitions. Luckily only one has to be bootable (the one with LILO). Maybe the answer to this question has already been sent, but I have many emails to read before I might find it. Can I install LILO so that it always runs at boot time without putting it in the MBR?
Re: [newbie] Installing
Mine is 1994.LBA is Logical (or Linear) Block Addressing. All new IDE HDs support it. My 1995 WD does. It's just a different way of numbering the heads, sectors and tracks. I'm pretty sure it does translation, too. Maybe there's a BIOS update for your motherboard-assuming it has a flash rom on it (but from that era, I kinda doubt it. My dad would like to get a new processor for the computer. I read some instructions on upgrades in the pamplets that came with our computer, and it showed me where I could set the clock speed. The choices: 25MHz and 33MHz. If I want to upgrade, I'll have to get a new motherboard in the process. I think it would be kinda cool to have a patchwork computer made out of parts from many different times, but if it doesn't work, then there's no point. I wonder if AST still supports an old Adventure! computer... By the way, I got it for $1500. grin shakes head
[newbie] : [newbie] Mandrake... (fwd)
No problem! You can run MkLinux on Macintosh (www.mklinux.apple.com) -éÓÈÏÄÎÏÅ ÓÏÏÂÝÅÎÉÅ- ïÔ: Axalon [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] ïÔÐÒÁ×ÌÅÎÏ: 23 ÉÀÌÑ 1999 Ç. 7:32 ëÏÍÕ: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ôÅÍÁ: Re: [newbie] Mandrake... (fwd) On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, hevnsnt wrote: Can anyone answer this question for me? Can you run Mandrake on a Mac? If not can you run ANY version of Linux on a Mac? -Bill I believe there is a work in progress for a Mandrake iMac(tm), all though the website(http://www.imandrake.com) seems to link back to the linux-mandrake homepage currently. There are several PPC compiled linux distributions in various stages of development. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 20:36:27 -0500 From: Arthur Katz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mandrake... I'm a Mac nut, and I've heard that linux can be installed on a Mac. True? I attended the Mac expo in New York today, but the nerds running the booth wouldn't talk to me. They were so deep in conversation with other nerds, having a war about which Linux was best.
Re: [newbie] Installing
How do I install LILO on a different disk? How do I make sure it doesn't trash the Ontrack program? Well, the "boot=..." line tells LILO where to put itself- in the MBR of the specified drive, or in the boot sector of the specified partition. As for trashing the Ontrack program, there's one idea I have to get around it. I'll explain in detail at the end. The Ontrack program--DDO--is there to make sure that the whole drive can be accessed without cylinder wrap. The proprietary format is there to make sure that the drive cannot be read without DDO. Guess what. Linux read it with no trouble (and with no DDO loaded). DOS, on the other hand... I'll have to load DDO for Mr. Bill's sake. I don't want to lose my data if the system is booted into DOS with a floppy that doesn't load the DDO, so I guess I'm best off leaving the proprietary format on there. In that case, I could use the floppy but not the big hard disk (only the smaller one). I can boot from floppy *and* use the DDO if it let it boot from disk, press space at the right time, and insert a floppy (thanks to a feature of the DDO). LBA? Has to do with the low-level format of the drive. I believe LBA is the (de facto) standard way to get around the 1024 cylinder limit. Then again, I often don't know as much as I think I do, so somebody help me if I'm wrong. At any rate, I'm sure that this wouldn't be a problem with only 3GB. I think you can address either 8 or 8.4GB with 1024 cylinders. I use DDO. I am dealing with a 1993 computer. Honestly, I'd recommend you upgrade it. Go out, look for a "bare bones system" with CPU, M/B, RAM. I found really good prices (and systems) at http://www.shoppingplanet.com (where I got my computer). Then put your old cards in the new computer, and you can upgrade the rest of the hardware at your leisure. I'll have to talk to Dad. That's a little hard to do since he usually wants to be alone when he is using the Internet, but maybe I can trick him or something. What's the difference between an extended partition and the other kind? The kind that would be called hdb2? An extended partition can contain multiple partitions (logical drives) inside it. For a more detailed explanation see http://www.harris-lp.k12.ia.us/hlp/~jws/~jws/comp/PCInfo/Boot/DEFAULT.HTM (click on the "Partitions and Volumes" link first). I was looking for a better page, but couldn't find one. Still, this one's not bad. I'll read it. The disk is formatted with the Ontrack Proprietary Format... Which means that if you ever want to access it without their special driver, you'll have to reformat it- WITHOUT USING THEIR FORMAT. I have the option of doing a BIOS format. The DDO will still work, but then I can access the drive without it and risk cylinder wrap. I read that 1024 cylinders is around 528MB or so. Hmm. That's pretty limiting. As long as you don't have any data you want to keep, you shoul dbe able to do this. I'll have to get ahold of the Windows 95 CD (don't have one) and a Microsoft Office CD (my dad uses it), but that's about it. Most of the stuff worth keeping is on a laptop that is in... uh oh... extreme peril. Pray that the guys working on it decide that maybe it would just be better to fix the power input than return a new computer (which they will do if given the chance). A problem presented by the DDO is "the operating system must not require special code in the MBR." LILO? Yup. Of course, it [LILO] doesn't _have_ to go in the MBR. Good. Perhaps I can put LILO into the primary partition, put DOS and Windows into that partition, and put Linux on another partition. Not a bad idea- in fact, this is what I was thinking you might try (if you still want to use this OnTrack thing). In lilo.conf, set the boot= to a primary partiton. It doesn't particularly matter which one (if you have multiple primary partitions, which I don't think DOS likes too much). Run cfdisk and make sure that partition, and NO OTHER ONE, is "Bootable" (meaning active in DOS terms). Run /sbin/lilo and reboot. LILO should come up, prompting for the image to boot. As long as boot= is set to a partition, not a drive (/dev/hda1, not /dev/hda) LILO will stay off the MBR. I get it, except for cfdisk. I only heard of fdisk. Is that a typo? I know the C key is really close to the F key... table=/dev/hda #Pass this partition table table to the other OS What does that last line mean? I'm not entirely sure myself. I think that by passing the partition table on to the other OS, it lets that OS know which drive it's being booted from (I guess some operatig systems aren't smart enough to figure this out on their own- *snicker*). chuckle
Re: [newbie] Installing
All that is great info and right on track except it doesnt matter where the hard drive goes on the cable. On a dual floppy setup, you must put the A Drive on the end because of a cut and twist in the ribbon cable, but not on an IDE. The wires are all in a parallel manner and the drive doesn't care. Plug it in in whichever manner fits best.. So I can leave the disks where they are now? That's good. Moving them around is pretty hard--it was very tough to fit the second disk in anyway! The ribbon cable didn't reach where it was supposed to reach (the recommended bay for a second disk). I had to put it in a half-height drive bay.
Re: [newbie] Oh, yeah
Then run Linux . . . ;) Ty Original Message On 7/22/99, 8:39:38 PM, Andy Goth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: [newbie] Oh, yeah: mind. If only I could map "\Program Files" to be on a different partition... Of course, such things are trivially easy in Linux... Wonder why Microsoft chose such a half-assed method of drive management... Because they're Microsoft and want to make things as easy as possible for the computer illiterate. Just another reason we use something superior. We basically have total control over where stuff goes. I personally don't put my programs in there. I prefer D:\prog (since the C: is a cramped compressed volume and "prog" is much easier to type than "program files"). Unfortunately, some programs insist. Office was really bad. I did all I could to put it on the D:, but either most or all of it stuck in the C:. There probably should be some registry hack that allows the "Program Files" directory to be D:\prog or something similar. Does anyone know more? I want the OS partition for the OS and nothing more!
Re: [newbie] Login Background
In the sense that it is an ansi drawing program yes, I'd say all similarity ends there. It has a much larger working area, allowing for all those awesome pics you'll find linked there also. As always, your Framebuffer console advocate, I recommend viewing these via console running in atleast 1280x1024x24 for maximum plesure :) Uhhh... no can do! I have 1MB video ram, and my monitor can display 800x600, or 1024x768 interlaced.
Re: [newbie] kernel re-compilation
From: Periklis Christodoulou [EMAIL PROTECTED] I wonder if I can get help with recompiling my kernel in order to support ntfs file system. When I tried "make xconf" it failed saying there are It's make xconfig. Make sure you're in /usr/src/linux when you do this.
Re: [newbie] Oh, yeah
- Original Message - From: Andy Goth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 1999 11:39 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] Oh, yeah mind. If only I could map "\Program Files" to be on a different partition... Of course, such things are trivially easy in Linux... Wonder why Microsoft chose such a half-assed method of drive management... Because they're Microsoft and want to make things as easy as possible for the computer illiterate. Just another reason we use something superior. We basically have total control over where stuff goes. I personally don't put my programs in there. I prefer D:\prog (since the C: is a cramped compressed volume and "prog" is much easier to type than "program files"). Unfortunately, some programs insist. Office was really bad. I did all I could to put it on the D:, but either most or all of it stuck in the C:. There probably should be some registry hack that allows the "Program Files" directory to be D:\prog or something similar. Does anyone know more? I want the OS partition for the OS and nothing more! I used to copy mine to E:\, then run a program called "Registry Search Replace" and replace all instances of c:\program files with e:\program files. Reboot and then delete c:\program files. Never a problem. If some poorly written program insisted on c:\, I would let it install, then repeat the above steps. Oh . . . you do need to manually edit a few lines in either syste,.ini or win.ini to change the directories. Hoyt
Re: [newbie] Oh, yeah
Then run Linux . . . ;) I am not the only user of the computer--I have to share it. My dad uses Office on it, and everyone uses DOS games. Just so you know, X runs very, very slowly, so don't bother suggesting using a X Window Office workalike. I read that Das Boot document, and I learned a lot from it. How about I make the core Linux partition the "active" partition and put LILO on it? My goal is to allow DOS and Windows to play with its partition boot sector as they see fit without jeopardizing LILO. I'll make LILO default to DOS so I won't risk having my brother turn on the computer, accidentally go to Linux, and turn off the computer to "fix" the problem (I know he would do that). It's starting to sound like I am ready to do this now. I'm not forgetting anything, am I? Before I start, I have some backing up to do. I also need a Windows 95 CD and Microsoft Office. I don't have those, so maybe I can dupe a friend into letting me borrow his.
Re: [newbie] Installing
All that is great info and right on track except it doesnt matter where the hard drive goes on the cable. On a dual floppy setup, you must put the A Drive on the end because of a cut and twist in the ribbon cable, but not on an IDE. The wires are all in a parallel manner and the drive doesn't care. Plug it in in whichever manner fits best.. So I can leave the disks where they are now? That's good. Moving them around is pretty hard--it was very tough to fit the second disk in anyway! The ribbon cable didn't reach where it was supposed to reach (the recommended bay for a second disk). I had to put it in a half-height drive bay. Uh oh... I overlooked something. The Ontrack Proprietary Format is designed so ordinary BIOS can't touch the disk. The MBR (which contains the DDO) might not be accessible if the disk is formatted as such. Chicken and egg? The only solution to this problem is to use a normal BIOS format and tell everyone to be sure not to boot from a floppy until the DDO is loaded. Man, I hate it when I have to avoid certain otherwise harmless actions as they could have disastrous consequences. Oh well. I already have to warn people not to just turn off the power when Linux is running (which already has happened--my mom thought that the computer shouldn't be on since she thought I was sleeping, so she flipped the switch--luckily the file system survived). How about this one? (still more evidence that Windows 95 sucks) If I insert an audio CD, Windows tries to scan the disc. Windows tries and tries and tries, but apparently it can't glean anything meaningful from the disk. Eventually it stops accessing it, but the computer remains TOTALLY LOCKED UP. Inserting an audio CD *shouldn't* be dangerous... If I want to play music, I have to first start a CD player, then insert the CD, and *immediately* start playing it.
Re: [newbie] SBlive in Mandrake 2.2.9
the sblive works just fine with mandrake 6. Download the driver from the creative labs development site: http://developer.soundblaster.com/linux/ Uncompress it and read the readme file for installation instructions. FOLOW THE MANUAL INSTALLATION PROCEDURE as otherwise the installation script will complain about a wrong kernel version. Use the 2.2.10 module. Do not add anything to conf.modules though. To load the driver, type: modprobe soundcore insmod -f emu10k1 You will get a warning about the module being compiled for a 2.2.10 kernel, and your being a 2.2.9, you can safely ignore this Now, test sound with the mediaplayer and a wav file. Should work. For the module to load at every startup, include the insmod -f command in your rc.local file. Patrick - Original Message - From: Carlos Mayorga [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 23, 1999 3:29 AM Subject: [newbie] SBlive in Mandrake 2.2.9 Have any one working SBlive with with mandrake 6.0 kernel 2.2.9 if so please help to make it work please. Thanks in advance... Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [newbie] Oh, yeah
I used to copy mine to E:\, then run a program called "Registry Search Replace" and replace all instances of c:\program files with e:\program files. Reboot and then delete c:\program files. Never a problem. If some poorly written program insisted on c:\, I would let it install, then repeat the above steps. Oh . . . you do need to manually edit a few lines in either syste,.ini or win.ini to change the directories. I've spent long sleepless nights before fixing the system.ini file after moving programs from C:\Program Files to D:\Prog. Luckily, I had a utility to rename most references that went to my CD-ROM drive after it changed letters. In Linux, such a thing isn't necessary since drives are referred to by their real names, not by arbitrary letters. Still, if I switch my master and slave drives, Linux might get confused since what was /dev/hda is now /dev/hdb. This should never actually happen in the course of running Linux (only when trying to make an optimal installation). Guys, I'm sorry if I'm deluging your mailboxes with my letters, but I have many letters to reply to. You can always delete them if you're not interested.
Re: [newbie] Oh, yeah
On 23-Jul-99 Andy Goth wrote: I broke my disk up in 3 partitions. 2 Gig or so for "/root", 64M for "swap", and the balance (6Gig) for "/home". This allows me to reinstall (reformat :-0 ) the /root and swap and not touch any home (user) files What about /usr and all those other directories I am forgetting? If you made the partitions suggested above (i.e. /, /home, and a swap partition) then basically any directory that's not under /home would be under /, so the /usr directory would be in the / partition. So, what if I install some great package and then have to reformat and reinstall the OS? How can I salvage that great package? Well, there are a couple ways you could deal with that. One would be to keep all of the packages you download in a directory under your home directory, assuming you have a separate /home partition as suggested above. Then when you reinstall, choose not to reformat /home, then you will have 1) all the packages still there in your home directory ready to be reinstalled and 2) the configuration files for most of your programs, so that when you reinstall they probably won't have to be reconfigured. Another way you could do it, if you don't want to even have to reinstall the program, is to make a /usr/local partition (most programs that aren't part of the distribution install in /usr/local by default), and put all the extra programs you install there. Then, as with /home, choose not to reformat /usr/local when you reinstall. -Tom
Re: [newbie] Oh, yeah
I understand - my g/f would kill me if I didn't let her have the 8gb hd for WinNT. BTW, if you have a burner, I have 98 (don't use it) and Office2k (nice). Ty Original Message On 7/22/99, 10:35:09 PM, Andy Goth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: [newbie] Oh, yeah: Then run Linux . . . ;) I am not the only user of the computer--I have to share it. My dad uses Office on it, and everyone uses DOS games. Just so you know, X runs very, very slowly, so don't bother suggesting using a X Window Office workalike. I read that Das Boot document, and I learned a lot from it. How about I make the core Linux partition the "active" partition and put LILO on it? My goal is to allow DOS and Windows to play with its partition boot sector as they see fit without jeopardizing LILO. I'll make LILO default to DOS so I won't risk having my brother turn on the computer, accidentally go to Linux, and turn off the computer to "fix" the problem (I know he would do that). It's starting to sound like I am ready to do this now. I'm not forgetting anything, am I? Before I start, I have some backing up to do. I also need a Windows 95 CD and Microsoft Office. I don't have those, so maybe I can dupe a friend into letting me borrow his.
Re: [newbie] Kppp question
OK, the IP addresses are for the INTERFACES, not for the systems. What I understand is that you have two computers connected by ethernet. One has a ppp connection to an ISP for internet connectivity. You need several simple things: 1. Your local static IPs had best be class A, B, or C addresses reserved for local networks (Class As are 10.x.y.z Class Cs are 192.168.x.y (256 networks back to back) and Idon't recall the Bs since Inever use them) Of course, the host with the gateway could be 10.0.0.1 and the other could use DHCP if you are set up to run it. 2. Go to K menu Choose Personal Choose Linux-Mandrake Choose Network on the machine with the PPP interface Names should show your hostname your domain and the DNS addresses Hosts should show only 127.0.0.1 (loopback) and the static IP for your host Interfaces should show 127.0.0.1 as lo Your static IP as eth0 and ppp0 without any IP To set up ppp, click on ppp0 and choose Edit Routing is likely where your problem is. Default gateway SHOULDbe blank gateway device should be ppp0 No other entries should be present Save and Quit--should work. Might try ticking the Ipv4 packet forwarding in routing as well. For a service to connect both nodes to the internet, look at the doc for ipchains or get PaNTs via www.Freshmeat.net Civileme Bill Moshier wrote: I wanted fixed-ip addresses for the local network. But I need dynamic IP for the isp. -Original Message- From: Lloyd Osten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 22, 1999 2:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Kppp question On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, you wrote: > I've a small 2-node network, with fixed IP addresses. When > I start Kppp, it connects and authenticate correctly, but will > not connect to any sites. The details screen shows that it > is using the fixed IP address for the system. Yet in the > Kppp setup, I have Dynamic IP checked, auto-configure host > name is NOT checked, the domain and dns address lists are > correct (xxx.net, and two xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx ip addresses). The > gateway default is checked, assign default route to this > gateway is checked. > > What's the next stage necessary to get the system to use the > dynamic IP address assigned from the isp? (or what have I > mis-configured?) > > Thanks for the assistance. > Bill > If you really do have fixed IP addresses, why do you have dynamic IP checked? -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Civileme Say: "One who buys dual scan display soon gains Optometrist for best friend."
Re: [newbie] Personal little server
Original Message On 7/23/99, 1:32:34 AM, Morpheus The Sinful Weeper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding [expert] Personal little server: Hello, [snip] PS: The more I use linux, the more stuff i find out i can do with it, the more excited i get, the more i hate windows I second this!!! (I'm trying to set up a personal irc server for online ADD I'm playing too.)
Re: [newbie] kernel re-compilation
Try make xconfig that will work ;o) Patrick On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, you wrote: I wonder if I can get help with recompiling my kernel in order to support ntfs file system. When I tried "make xconf" it failed saying there are no rules for target xconf. -- Regards, Periklis --- Periklis Christodoulou CSIRO Manufacturing Science Technology RD Manager, Queensland Manufacturing Institute P.O. Box 4012 Eight Mile Plains, Qld 4113 AUSTRALIA e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel: +61 7 33640720 fax: +61 7 33640786 ---
Re: [newbie] kernel recompilation
Dan Brown wrote: From: Periklis Christodoulou [EMAIL PROTECTED] I wonder if I can get help with recompiling my kernel in order to support ntfs file system. When I tried "make xconf" it failed saying there are no rules to make target. It's make xconfig. Make sure you're in /usr/src/linux when you do this. I am sorry indeed it is make xconfig. And I was in the directory /usr/src/linux. To make sure I have repeated the exercise and the following again: make xconfig make: *** No rule to make target `xconfig'. Stop. One more info, I am running the Mandrake 6.0 Thanks
