Re: [newbie-it] net-card

1999-07-27 Thread dr. Giovanni Schmid

Ciao,
do per scontato che tu sia arcisicuro del tipo di scheda installata...
Ho avuto problemi analoghi ai tuoi con la release 5.3 di Mandrake e con la
scheda PCI AMD PCNET v3.11, montata sui Kayak XA6/400 di HP. 
Sebbene autoprobe in fase di installazione sembrasse funzionare, il kernel
non vedeva correttamente la scheda, con i sintomi da te descritti.
Ho provato selezionando manualmente il driver della scheda (era presente
nel menu` di installazione), settando dei parametri per il kernel...
niente!
Il problema e` che il quella distribuzione ci sono dei bachi su alcuni 
driver, evidentemente alcuni dei quali non risolti nemmeno con la 6. 
Secondo me hai due sole possibilita`: 
1) navigare sul sito Mandrake per vedere se abbiano rilasciato una nuova
versione del driver per la tua scheda;
2) cambiare distribuzione.

Io ho scelto la 2), passando alla 6 di redhat e non ho piu avuto
problemi..

Ciao, Giovanni



On Sun, 25 Jul 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ciao lista!Vengo al sodo:il Kernel è compilato con tutti i crismi ma non
 riesco a far partire la scheda di rete ho provato a disabilitare il pnp
 con i jumper,aggiungere i parametri del modulo in /etc/conf.modules,pure un
 "append" in /etc/lilo.conf ho provato con pnpprobe e poi ativare la
 configurazione (ACT Y)in /etc/isapnp.conf ma nulla al boot dice:
 bringing up lo
 bringing up eth0
 delayn interface eth0(o qualcosa del genere)
   [FAILED]
 naturalmente quella carogna di win9x la configurata subito e anche
 SCOUNIXWARE7.1
 ho provato con le seguenti schede:
 3com C503
 ICL ETHERTEAM 16i
 LEVEL ONE ENC-0100TB(chip REALTEK dovrebbe andare bene sia rtl8139 che rtl
 8010)
 sono disperato tralaltro ifconfig dice le cose giuste tranne che i
 parametri sono a 0 come se la scheda non funzionasse.
 Ciao Cello
 



[newbie] General configuration, tool comparison questions

1999-07-27 Thread Richard Myers


What is the best way to learn system configuration and administration
skills for a home-based Linux system, without feeling like I am on a
treasure hunt through the Linux Documentation Project files?

I'm somewhat experienced with Unix, but not experienced with system
administration and not experienced with Linux.

I'm in the process of configuring Mandrake 6.0. I have used the
Configuration HOWTO, and found that it had a lot of excellent information.

However, I am impatient with brief, introductory information. I want more
technical material. Why do I configure it this way? What other options are
available?

Does anyone have recommendations (books, online documents, URL's,
other maillists, etc.)???

ALSO-- we have a number of choices available when selecting basic tools in
Linux. Is there a good source for comparing such tools for feature-set,
ease of configuration and use, etc. ???

I'd be happy to spend some money for the right books-- I already have
Linux for Dummies, and Linux in a Nutshell. Unfortunately they are more
introductory than in-depth. Other recommendations welcome. I've checked
out book reviews at fatbrain.com, but most of the titles that are recent
publication-date and sound good aren't available yet.


best wishes,

richard myers



Re: [newbie] Re:HTML mail to this list?

1999-07-27 Thread Mike Bulmer


Art Rowe wrote:
>
I have used Outlook Express and like it very much,
What is Outlook Express?
but I am running Mandrake
Linux only at the moment. I am not sure about KFM browser, but Linux
Netscape
Mail does HTML fine.
Yes it does.
I like to have HTML turned on because some of my
mail
lists come that way and look much better.
True, But you can post in text and read text or html like I almost always
do. Because if you post in text more people can read your E-mail
and the person that can help you might only read his e-mail from pine.
I have a rather basic system Pentium
133 and a 1.6 hard drive.
I'm sorry
I would think people with at least that much
computing power could reasd html if they want to.
Alot of people don't have fast pentium systems or bandwidth to burn.
If they don't want to,
perhaps they czn just skip those messages.
I agree with you. And would like to add that I wish Mandrake digest
came in html.

Art
> HTML is bulkier as a lot of formatting tags and other extranious
> non-information bearing garbage. What's wrong with a plain
text message.
>
> Also, not everyone is equipped to handle html, I'm pretty sure Pine
doesn't.
>
Mike Bulmer
PS. I will post this in HTML jus cuz!


Re: [newbie] Re:HTML mail to this list?

1999-07-27 Thread Art Rowe

HI Mike,

Thanks for your observations.
I have set up Netscape for sending text only.
I'll try that for awhile. It doesn't look as nice on my screen while I
am writing it.

Art

--
Mike Bulmer wrote:
 
 Art Rowe wrote:
.
 
  I like to have HTML turned on because some of my mail
  lists come that way and look much better.
. 
 True, But you can post in text and read text or html like I almost
 always do.  Because if you post in text more people can read your
 E-mail and the person that can help you might only read his e-mail
 from pine.



Re: [newbie] Oh, yeah

1999-07-27 Thread Richard Myers


On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Andy Goth wrote:
 I was about to make that statement earlier, but I then thought it wasn't
 tre since everything that has been said indicated that hard links point
 to a single file and when all hard links die the file does as well (and
 that kinda invalidated what I thought).  It's a good thing this isn't
 the case!  It's waaay too complicated and unwieldly.  Imagine making a
 hard link and changing your mind about it... if this was true, I
 couldn't delete it!  The truth is much better.  Yeah, that is a good
 idea about deletion protection.  If I want to make sure that some data
 cannot be deleted, I can keep a hard link.

I think that you misunderstand.

A hard link is the way that you access a file. BUT, there is only one
file.

Suppose that we have a file named... well, lets create a file:

$ echo put this in a file  hardlink_1  
$   

We have created a file the "quick" way, and we gave it the name
hardlink_1.

And then we "cat" the file, which shows what is in the file.

$ cat hardlink_1
put this in a file  
$   

Hardlink_1 is a text file which has the contents, "put this in a file".

OK, lets say it a different way. The echo command sends (we say it
re-directs) "put this in a file" into the contents of a file named
hardlink_1. The "" character is the nifty command that does this
redirection.

Lets look at the long display of this file:

$ ls -l 
total 2 
-rw-rw-r--   1 rtm  465   19 Jul 27 02:09 hardlink_1
$  

OK, notice that it has a file size of 19 (just before the date).

Count the characters in the "string" of characters:

123456789012345678
put this in a file

18. One extra byte to store this string gives us the 19.

Now we will add another hard link:

$ ln hardlink_1 hardlink_2
$   

...and if we look at our directory again:

$ ls -l 
total 4 
-rw-rw-r--   2 rtm  465   19 Jul 27 02:09 hardlink_1
-rw-rw-r--   2 rtm  465   19 Jul 27 02:09 hardlink_2
$

Both filenames point to the same file. We can display the contents of
both files:

$ cat * 
put this in a file  
put this in a file  
$   

Well, actually, we displayed the contents of ONE file twice. Once using
each filename. The * is a wildcard that matches all filenames in the
directory.

OK, now for the test.

We are going to redirect "nothing" to the first hardlink.

$  hardlink_1  
$

We have replaced the contents of hardlink_1 with "nothing". Since there is
nothing in front of the "", nothing is put into the file, replacing
whatever had been there. Notice that we don't even need the echo command
to do this.

And, ls -l tells the story:
   
$ ls -l 
total 0 
-rw-rw-r--   2 rtm  4650 Jul 27 02:22 hardlink_1
-rw-rw-r--   2 rtm  4650 Jul 27 02:22 hardlink_2
$

For further proof, try to cat the contents of the two files (or more
accurately, the contents of our ONE file twice):

$ cat * 
$  

Nothing there.

Soo, a second hard link doesn't "protect" the contents of a file. It
only offers another way to access the contents of a file.

If we use either hard link to change that file, then the contents are
changed. Period.

Now, lets create a soft link and put something back into the file:

$ ln -s hardlink_1 softlink_1   
$   

The -s "switch" to the link command ln makes this a symbolic, or "soft"
link, instead of a hard link.

$ ls -l 
total 2 
-rw-rw-r--   2 rtm465  0 Jul 27 02:22 hardlink_1
-rw-rw-r--   2 rtm465  0 Jul 27 02:22 

[newbie] fetchmail and sender name resolving

1999-07-27 Thread James Stewart

Hi,

I'm trying to collect my mail using fetchmail. It's accessing my POP
boxes without problem but once it's downloaded always seems to say
"sender domain must resolve" and flushes each message. How can I stop
this happening?

Also, does fetchmail pass e-mail to sendmail for delivery? I want to
control which mail addresses go to which users.

Finally, what's the best way to send e-mail to one address to one mail
client and to another address to a different package? I'd like to set
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] to go to the same user
but need to be able to respond with the correct address, and would like
to filter lists@ mail into mailboxes but don't mind about james@ mail.

Thanks. James.

-- 
James Stewart - [EMAIL PROTECTED]  | "Telecom ignored us and 
The Britlinks - http://www.britlinks.co.uk | democracy has died."
Phantom Tollbooth - http://www.tollbooth.org   |   -- Fat And Frantic

Sixpence None The Richer in the UK - http://www.britlinks.co.uk/sixpence/



Re: [newbie] Redhat 6 and Soundblaster Live

1999-07-27 Thread darkknight

On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, chagilt wrote:
 Hey I would just like to thank all of you for your help with the
 soundblaster live...with your advice i had it up and running in under 30
 minutes...thanks a lot all!!!
 
 Chad Guilette

Hi Chad,

Just wandering, How does it it sound under Linux?
I have been thinking of getting an SB Live but was not sure if it would be
worth  the investment. What is your esessment of it's sound under Linux?

Thanks in advance,

John Love
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



[newbie] shuting down by ord. user..

1999-07-27 Thread Bobby Raagas

I want to give a special acces to a user in my linux box to shutdown it,
how will i do it? I'm using MDK 6.0 (Venus)

Thanks



Re: [newbie] Problems with X and Mandrake screen

1999-07-27 Thread darkknight

On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Mark E Hood wrote:
 Yes. Count me as also having had this problem. I, too, would love to know
 how to fix it. Seems to be a problem.
 mark
 
 - Original Message -
 From: David Gill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, July 26, 1999 6:55 PM
 Subject: [newbie] Problems with X and Mandrake screen
 
 
  I've installed Mandrake 6.0 successfully on my Cyrix166 machine, and I've
  been running kde (though I've had the choice of gnome, etc.).  However,
  after 3/4 days, kde begins to lock-up, causing me to have to reset the
  machine.  After this reset, the Mandrake X screen is replaced by the kde
  screen (in which I can choose only kde and failsafe, and there is no
  'shutdown' option on the screen.

I too had problems with KDE though it never got so bad I had to reset thereby
causing disk corruption. In the future, when KDE or anyother X app on any
desktop causes a lock up, try to get out of it by using the kill command.
If X locks up, try this, In example: 
Use Ctrl + Alt + F2  (you will see a new tty come up with the standard login
prompt)
Login as root and then type in the root password
At the prompt, type: 
ps ax
you will get a screen full of information of all the running processes, on the
far left are numbers (like 552, 553 and so on) these are the PID's (process
Identification Number, I believe.) anyway, the last two should be your new
login, usually bash (or whatever shell you normally use) and the,  ps ax 
command you just entered. Usually the one right above them is the process that
is the culprit. Write down the PID of that process. Then at the prompt type the
following:
kill PID # 
ie:
kill 556

That will kill that process and hopefully free up X.
Now use Ctr + Alt +F7 to return to your Xsession and see if it worked. It
always has seemed to work for me. (I think I had to do this three times.)

As a last resort, if the X session just won't free up, use Ctrl + Alt +
backspace to kill the Xsession and return to a prompt ( at that time a reboot
might be a good idea as the system might have been rendered unstable)
so use shutdown -r now ( shutdown -h now  - to shut it down) never ever
turn off Linux when running if you can ever avoid it.

Also, if you (like Me) do not want to use KDE and hate to have to change the
default on the Xwindow  login all the time. Use a text editor (any will do) and
create a file called "desktop" (without the quotes of course) and place it in
the /etc/sysconfig dirrectory. It should contain one line, which should be the
desktop environment you want to use, such as the following.
GNOME
or
KDE
or
AnotherLevel
Just the one line in the same case as above. Xinit will look here first, if
this file exists it will use this setting to start X, you will still get a
prompt for Login and password but it might be a different format depending on
your choice of dektop environment.

As to getting back to normal now, I wish I knew more, I am a newbie too, if you
get no better sugestions you might try to re-install using the upgrade option.
You will still keep any new stuff you put in, but KDE and gnome will start from
scratch with the default settings. So you will loose any customizations to your
desktop you applied. Perhaps someone else can offer a better solution?

John Love
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [newbie] Oh, yeah

1999-07-27 Thread darkknight

On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Richard Myers wrote:
 On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Andy Goth wrote:
  I was about to make that statement earlier, but I then thought it wasn't
  tre since everything that has been said indicated that hard links point
  to a single file and when all hard links die the file does as well (and
  that kinda invalidated what I thought).  It's a good thing this isn't
  the case!  It's waaay too complicated and unwieldly.  Imagine making a
  hard link and changing your mind about it... if this was true, I
  couldn't delete it!  The truth is much better.  Yeah, that is a good
  idea about deletion protection.  If I want to make sure that some data
  cannot be deleted, I can keep a hard link.
 
 I think that you misunderstand.
 
 A hard link is the way that you access a file. BUT, there is only one
 file.
 
 Suppose that we have a file named... well, lets create a file:
 
 $ echo put this in a file  hardlink_1  
 $   
 
 We have created a file the "quick" way, and we gave it the name
 hardlink_1.
 
 And then we "cat" the file, which shows what is in the file.
 
 $ cat hardlink_1
 put this in a file  
 $   
 
 Hardlink_1 is a text file which has the contents, "put this in a file".
 
 OK, lets say it a different way. The echo command sends (we say it
 re-directs) "put this in a file" into the contents of a file named
 hardlink_1. The "" character is the nifty command that does this
 redirection.
 
 Lets look at the long display of this file:
 
 $ ls -l 
 total 2 
 -rw-rw-r--   1 rtm  465   19 Jul 27 02:09 hardlink_1
 $  
 
 OK, notice that it has a file size of 19 (just before the date).
 
 Count the characters in the "string" of characters:
 
 123456789012345678
 put this in a file
 
 18. One extra byte to store this string gives us the 19.
 
 Now we will add another hard link:
 
 $ ln hardlink_1 hardlink_2
 $   
 
 ...and if we look at our directory again:
 
 $ ls -l 
 total 4 
 -rw-rw-r--   2 rtm  465   19 Jul 27 02:09 hardlink_1
 -rw-rw-r--   2 rtm  465   19 Jul 27 02:09 hardlink_2
 $
 
 Both filenames point to the same file. We can display the contents of
 both files:
 
 $ cat * 
 put this in a file  
 put this in a file  
 $   
 
 Well, actually, we displayed the contents of ONE file twice. Once using
 each filename. The * is a wildcard that matches all filenames in the
 directory.
 
 OK, now for the test.
 
 We are going to redirect "nothing" to the first hardlink.
 
 $  hardlink_1  
 $
 
 We have replaced the contents of hardlink_1 with "nothing". Since there is
 nothing in front of the "", nothing is put into the file, replacing
 whatever had been there. Notice that we don't even need the echo command
 to do this.
 
 And, ls -l tells the story:

 $ ls -l 
 total 0 
 -rw-rw-r--   2 rtm  4650 Jul 27 02:22 hardlink_1
 -rw-rw-r--   2 rtm  4650 Jul 27 02:22 hardlink_2
 $
 
 For further proof, try to cat the contents of the two files (or more
 accurately, the contents of our ONE file twice):
 
 $ cat * 
 $  
 
 Nothing there.
 
 Soo, a second hard link doesn't "protect" the contents of a file. It
 only offers another way to access the contents of a file.
 
 If we use either hard link to change that file, then the contents are
 changed. Period.
 
 Now, lets create a soft link and put something back into the file:
 
 $ ln -s hardlink_1 softlink_1   
 $   
 
 The -s "switch" to the link command ln makes this a symbolic, or "soft"
 link, instead of a hard link.
 
 $ ls -l 
 total 2  

Re: [newbie] Install Problem!

1999-07-27 Thread Art Rowe

I am new to Linux but I have tried the latest versions of Redhat,
Caldera and StormLInux (Beta). It has been the easiest to install. The
recognition of the mouse and video have been hangup points, but
Mandrake has had the flexibility to allow me to deal with these. Keep
trying. I like it enough to abandon Win98 for the time being.

Art


Ron Smith wrote:

 and it dies there!
 
 What is going on?  I'm SO frustrated that I'm about ready to put Windows 98 on
 the computer and pitch Mandrake out the window.
 
 Any help VERY MUCH appreciated.
 
 Thanks...
 
 Ron Smith
 Boise, Idaho



Re: [newbie] Problems with X and Mandrake screen

1999-07-27 Thread Dennis Podein

Yes I have had the same problem . I can't tell you how to get
the GUI choices back , but as for shutdown :Logon as Root , go
to K / Settings /Applications / Login Manager,On the Sessions
tab under Allow to shutdown , select ALL, Make sure you apply
the change . This should solve that problem , I also would
like to know how to get the other  GUI choices back .
- Original Message -
From: David Gill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 26, 1999 6:55 PM
Subject: [newbie] Problems with X and Mandrake screen


 I've installed Mandrake 6.0 successfully on my Cyrix166
machine, and I've
 been running kde (though I've had the choice of gnome,
etc.).  However,
 after 3/4 days, kde begins to lock-up, causing me to have to
reset the
 machine.  After this reset, the Mandrake X screen is
replaced by the kde
 screen (in which I can choose only kde and failsafe, and
there is no
 'shutdown' option on the screen.

 [I have not installed any software other than the rpm's on
the CD.  I have a
 2gig HD, a Cirrus Logic 5654 video card, and a parellel Zip
drive that I
 can't get detected.]

 Has anyone else had this problem?





Re: [newbie] Redhat 6 and Soundblaster Live

1999-07-27 Thread Martin White

I know i'm not the person you directed your mail to, but i'm going to reply
anyway !!

I thought the sound of the SBLive was pretty crappy under linux with the
first two versions of the driver, but with the advent of the new version,
things seem to sound considerably better now (or is that just my perception
?).

I must say though that what sets the SBLive apart from some of the other
higher end cards in creative's range - the Awe64 even if we go a way back -
is meant to be the stuff live environmental audio, creatives sound fonts,
etc. etc.

AFAIK, none of this is yet available under linux, and therefore if you
solely run linux, at the moment you would probably be wasting your money.

If like me you want blindingly good sound when you're watching DVDs, playing
games or whatever you do under Windows, and want as a bonus for your linux
install to sound good too, then go ahead and get one, it's well worth the
money !!

Martin.

- Original Message -
From: darkknight [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Redhat 6 and Soundblaster Live


 On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, chagilt wrote:
  Hey I would just like to thank all of you for your help with the
  soundblaster live...with your advice i had it up and running in under 30
  minutes...thanks a lot all!!!
 
  Chad Guilette

 Hi Chad,

 Just wandering, How does it it sound under Linux?
 I have been thinking of getting an SB Live but was not sure if it would be
 worth  the investment. What is your esessment of it's sound under Linux?

 Thanks in advance,

 John Love
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: [newbie] Problem with PPP connection

1999-07-27 Thread Ray Anderson

I am new to Linux, but mine did the same thing.  Mine did not have a file
called resolv.conf in  the  /etc folder.

The resolv.conf has the domain name and nameserver info for your ISP.  When
i added that file it worked fine.

Mine was like this

domain nashville.com
nameserver 207.65.180.114
nameserver 207.65.180.115

Hope this helps...
Ray

- Original Message -
From: Thomas J. Hamman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 12:36 AM
Subject: [newbie] Problem with PPP connection


 I'm trying to help someone else get Mandrake to work, and she is having a
 problem with her PPP connection.

 Basically, her modem seems to work fine, and apparently she can connect
fine to
 her ISP without any trouble.  However, she cannot connect to anything else
(or
 at least not receive any transmitted data from anything else).  For
example if
 she tries to retrieve a webpage with Netscape, she gets to the 'contacted
host,
 waiting for reply' (or something like that) message and then gets nothing
else.
  Results are similar with other programs (like telnet).

 Does anyone know what would cause this, and how to fix it?

 Note:  During the install LILO failed to install in her MBR, and the boot
 disk creation failed also, so I have her using loadlin to boot Linux...
but
 otherwise her installation seems fine.


 -Tom




[newbie] Apache

1999-07-27 Thread Nichols, Jason

Can anybody point me towards a good explanation of how to use .htaccess
files in apache? 
Thanks!
Jason



Re: [newbie] Oh, yeah

1999-07-27 Thread Patrick Putteman

Congrats for this wonderful explanation of hard/symlinks. 

Patrick

On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, you wrote:
 On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Richard Myers wrote:
  On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Andy Goth wrote:
   I was about to make that statement earlier, but I then thought it wasn't
   tre since everything that has been said indicated that hard links point
   to a single file and when all hard links die the file does as well (and
   that kinda invalidated what I thought).  It's a good thing this isn't
   the case!  It's waaay too complicated and unwieldly.  Imagine making a
   hard link and changing your mind about it... if this was true, I
   couldn't delete it!  The truth is much better.  Yeah, that is a good
   idea about deletion protection.  If I want to make sure that some data
   cannot be deleted, I can keep a hard link.
  
  I think that you misunderstand.
  
  A hard link is the way that you access a file. BUT, there is only one
  file.
  
  Suppose that we have a file named... well, lets create a file:
  
  $ echo put this in a file  hardlink_1  
  $   
  
  We have created a file the "quick" way, and we gave it the name
  hardlink_1.
  
  And then we "cat" the file, which shows what is in the file.
  
  $ cat hardlink_1
  put this in a file  
  $   
  
  Hardlink_1 is a text file which has the contents, "put this in a file".
  
  OK, lets say it a different way. The echo command sends (we say it
  re-directs) "put this in a file" into the contents of a file named
  hardlink_1. The "" character is the nifty command that does this
  redirection.
  
  Lets look at the long display of this file:
  
  $ ls -l 
  total 2 
  -rw-rw-r--   1 rtm  465   19 Jul 27 02:09 hardlink_1
  $  
  
  OK, notice that it has a file size of 19 (just before the date).
  
  Count the characters in the "string" of characters:
  
  123456789012345678
  put this in a file
  
  18. One extra byte to store this string gives us the 19.
  
  Now we will add another hard link:
  
  $ ln hardlink_1 hardlink_2
  $   
  
  ...and if we look at our directory again:
  
  $ ls -l 
  total 4 
  -rw-rw-r--   2 rtm  465   19 Jul 27 02:09 hardlink_1
  -rw-rw-r--   2 rtm  465   19 Jul 27 02:09 hardlink_2
  $
  
  Both filenames point to the same file. We can display the contents of
  both files:
  
  $ cat * 
  put this in a file  
  put this in a file  
  $   
  
  Well, actually, we displayed the contents of ONE file twice. Once using
  each filename. The * is a wildcard that matches all filenames in the
  directory.
  
  OK, now for the test.
  
  We are going to redirect "nothing" to the first hardlink.
  
  $  hardlink_1  
  $
  
  We have replaced the contents of hardlink_1 with "nothing". Since there is
  nothing in front of the "", nothing is put into the file, replacing
  whatever had been there. Notice that we don't even need the echo command
  to do this.
  
  And, ls -l tells the story:
 
  $ ls -l 
  total 0 
  -rw-rw-r--   2 rtm  4650 Jul 27 02:22 hardlink_1
  -rw-rw-r--   2 rtm  4650 Jul 27 02:22 hardlink_2
  $
  
  For further proof, try to cat the contents of the two files (or more
  accurately, the contents of our ONE file twice):
  
  $ cat * 
  $  
  
  Nothing there.
  
  Soo, a second hard link doesn't "protect" the contents of a file. It
  only offers another way to access the contents of a file.
  
  If we use either hard link to change that file, then the contents are
  changed. Period.
  
  Now, lets create a soft link and put something back into the file:
  
  $ ln -s hardlink_1 softlink_1   
  $   
  
  The -s 

Re: [newbie] shuting down by ord. user..

1999-07-27 Thread Matt Stegman

/etc/shutdown.allow is a file that contains the names of users aloowed to
shutdown the system.  It may not be present on your system yet; you'll
have to create it.

Also check /etc/inittab to see if Ctrl-Alt-Del is being caught.  If so,
anybody (not just those in shutdown.allow) may shutdown the system via the
"three finger salute."  What you might do is change the Ctrl-Alt-Del
command to "logout" or something else that's harmless.

 -Matt

On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Bobby Raagas wrote:

 I want to give a special acces to a user in my linux box to shutdown it,
 how will i do it? I'm using MDK 6.0 (Venus)
 
 Thanks
 



RE: [newbie] icq

1999-07-27 Thread Rich McCabe



I am not sure what advanced functions you may use in ICQ, but for me LICQ
does fine. It has a few features that ICQ does not. You can spoof messages
with it (not that I would) and it always shows the other parties IP even
when they do not allow it.

You can D/L skins for it and make it look however you desire.

It works for me !

Rich



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Manny Styles
 Sent: Thursday, July 08, 1999 3:07 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] icq




 - Original Message -
 From: Mike Julien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, July 08, 1999 12:00 AM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] icq


  there is no need for wine to do that.. go to ftp://ftp.freshmeat.net
  go to the RPM section and take your pick of icq clones or
 anything else
  that is of interest
 
  Yants wrote:
  
   Is it possible to run ICQ on Linux using WINE? If so, how..?
 
 A good idea, but from what I have heard, none of the clones
 yet have the
 full functionality of  Windows ICQ ... not to mention that
 you need to have
 a UIN before you can use any of the linux ICQ clones.

 Manny Styles
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ---
 You have to watch out for yourself, because nobody else is going to.
 Especially during dodgeball.



 
 NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet.  Shouldn't you?
 Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at
 http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html




Re: [newbie] shuting down by ord. user..

1999-07-27 Thread Theo Brinkman

Can you control what Ctrl-Alt-Del does by user?  (i.e.: Let root reboot
the system that way, but have it just log everyone else out?)

- Theo

Matt Stegman wrote:
 
 /etc/shutdown.allow is a file that contains the names of users aloowed to
 shutdown the system.  It may not be present on your system yet; you'll
 have to create it.
 
 Also check /etc/inittab to see if Ctrl-Alt-Del is being caught.  If so,
 anybody (not just those in shutdown.allow) may shutdown the system via the
 "three finger salute."  What you might do is change the Ctrl-Alt-Del
 command to "logout" or something else that's harmless.
 
  -Matt
 
 On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Bobby Raagas wrote:
 
  I want to give a special acces to a user in my linux box to shutdown it,
  how will i do it? I'm using MDK 6.0 (Venus)
 
  Thanks
 



[newbie] Fights..

1999-07-27 Thread hevnsnt

I am sorry, I know how bad it is to send jokes to a list, but I think this
one applies here very well..

-hevnsnt


Q:  How many Internet mail list subscribers does it take to change a
light bulb?
 
A:  1,331:
1 to change the light bulb and to post to the mail list that the light
bulb has been changed.
 
14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the
light bulb could have been changed differently.
 
7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs.
 
27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light
bulbs.
 
53 to flame the spell checkers.
 
156 to write to the list administrator complaining about the light bulb
discussion and its inappropriateness to this mail list.
 
41 to correct spelling in the spelling/grammar flames.
 
109 to post that this list is not about light bulbs and to please take
this email exchange to alt.lite.bulb
 
203 to demand that cross posting to alt.grammar, alt.spelling and
alt.punctuation about changing light bulbs be stopped.
 
111 to defend the posting to this list saying that we are all use light
bulbs and therefore the posts **are** relevant to this mail list.
 
306 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where to
buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this
technique, and what brands are faulty.
 
27 to post URLs where one can see examples of different light bulbs
 
14 to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly, and to post corrected
URLs.
 
3 to post about links they found from the URLs that are relevant to this
list which makes light bulbs relevant to this list.
 
33 to concatenate all posts to date, then quote them including all
headers and footers, and then add "Me Too."
 
12 to post to the list that they are unsubscribing because they cannot
handle the light bulb controversy.
 
19 to quote the "Me Too's" to say, "Me Three."
 
4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ. 1 to propose new
alt.change.lite.bulb newsgroup.
 
47 to say this is just what alt.physic.cold_fusion was meant for, leave
it here.
 
143 votes for alt.lite.bulb.



Re: [newbie] shuting down by ord. user..

1999-07-27 Thread Kelly Dorset



Matt Stegman wrote:
 
 /etc/shutdown.allow is a file that contains the names of users aloowed to
 shutdown the system.  It may not be present on your system yet; you'll
 have to create it.
 
 Also check /etc/inittab to see if Ctrl-Alt-Del is being caught.  If so,
 anybody (not just those in shutdown.allow) may shutdown the system via the
 "three finger salute."  What you might do is change the Ctrl-Alt-Del
 command to "logout" or something else that's harmless.
 
  -Matt
 

are these specific to certain versions of linux, or are these facilities
present on all versions?

k


 On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Bobby Raagas wrote:
 
  I want to give a special acces to a user in my linux box to shutdown it,
  how will i do it? I'm using MDK 6.0 (Venus)
 
  Thanks
 

-- 
---
Kelly Dorset 
HTML programmer for Insight UK
http://www.insight.com/uk
---
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
---



Re: [newbie] Problem with PPP connection

1999-07-27 Thread Thomas J. Hamman


On 27-Jul-99 Ray Anderson wrote:
 I am new to Linux, but mine did the same thing.  Mine did not have a file
 called resolv.conf in  the  /etc folder.
 
 The resolv.conf has the domain name and nameserver info for your ISP.  When
 i added that file it worked fine.
 
 Mine was like this
 
 domain nashville.com
 nameserver 207.65.180.114
 nameserver 207.65.180.115
 
 Hope this helps...
 Ray

Thanks... we did give her a resolv.conf with DNS servers though; one thing I
forgot to mention is that we know she can resolve IP addresses because doing an
nslookup works fine for her.

I'll check and make sure she has the 'domain' line just in case though..

 
 - Original Message -
 From: Thomas J. Hamman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 12:36 AM
 Subject: [newbie] Problem with PPP connection
 
 
 I'm trying to help someone else get Mandrake to work, and she is having a
 problem with her PPP connection.

 Basically, her modem seems to work fine, and apparently she can connect
 fine to
 her ISP without any trouble.  However, she cannot connect to anything else
 (or
 at least not receive any transmitted data from anything else).  For
 example if
 she tries to retrieve a webpage with Netscape, she gets to the 'contacted
 host,
 waiting for reply' (or something like that) message and then gets nothing
 else.
  Results are similar with other programs (like telnet).

 Does anyone know what would cause this, and how to fix it?

 Note:  During the install LILO failed to install in her MBR, and the boot
 disk creation failed also, so I have her using loadlin to boot Linux...
 but
 otherwise her installation seems fine.


 -Tom



Re: [newbie] Oh, yeah

1999-07-27 Thread Richard Myers


 On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Richard Myers wrote:
  Neat stuff, huh? This is Unix.
  best wishes,
  richard myers
 
On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, darkknight wrote:
 : )  Ever thought about teaching?

We, I taught an online college-level Intro to Unix course for several
years. Gave it up because (1) the college didn't support it well enough,
and (2) I make ten times as much money working for Lucent Technologies.

 I always had trouble grasping the diferrence between hard links and soft
 (symbolic) links, untill now. And I was'nt even the poster of the message.
 cool ,  thanks alot, you really have patients and should consider teaching as a
 career. Great stuff indeed, Unix has always facinated me but I thought it too
 hard for me to grasp. More lessons like that and there might be hope for me yet.
 I shure am glad I make it a habbit to at least skim through each and every post.
 Thanks alot,
 John Love
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hmmm. Glad it helped. Maybe we should do some quickie Unix-command-line
intro lessons online. QUESTION: should it be on this list, or would it be
better to start a new, separate maillist? Or should we just try a few easy
lessons, and see how it goes, with the option to move elsewhere later?

What say, everyone?


best wishes,

richard myers



[newbie] Toshiba Satellite 2065 and Sound

1999-07-27 Thread David Klein

I have a Satellite 2065, in checking around regarding Toshiba and Linux and
in Toshiba Europe's main "unsupported but we have to mention it because we
know that we eventually will" page, I might be out of luck on the sound card
and the modem for now as they list.

I did find something on a listserv I'm going to try for the modem regarding
"statserial" which I'll try.

Regarding the sound card there is something weird.  It's an ESS that I've
not seen before.  While standard examples of ESS for laptops (I've had them
since 1996 in an AST in a TI Travelmate what a piece of junk that laptop
was)include the 688, 1688 and 1888 this one is odd.  It has an "ESS Device
Manager" at Interrupt Request 11 and a "Maestro DOS Games/FM Devices" at
Interrupt Request 05.  Strange?  They are usually easy, tried and true sound
cards.   In doing sndconfig it can't find it via PnP nor can it be manually
set.

There is are two "DEVICE BUSY" type message that flash across the screen
briefly at boot up dealing with the above.  Since it is Linux-Mandrake 6.0,
it goes right into one of the window managers that comes with it.  I've been
hunting for some sort of boot log in /etc and in /boot to no avail.  How do
I turn up the error log level boot up messaging file and where is that file
located?

I apologize for being such a novice.



Re: [newbie] shuting down by ord. user..

1999-07-27 Thread Axalon



On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Kelly Dorset wrote:

 
 
 Matt Stegman wrote:
  
  /etc/shutdown.allow is a file that contains the names of users aloowed to
  shutdown the system.  It may not be present on your system yet; you'll
  have to create it.
  
  Also check /etc/inittab to see if Ctrl-Alt-Del is being caught.  If so,
  anybody (not just those in shutdown.allow) may shutdown the system via the
  "three finger salute."  What you might do is change the Ctrl-Alt-Del
  command to "logout" or something else that's harmless.
  
   -Matt
  
 
 are these specific to certain versions of linux, or are these facilities
 present on all versions?
 
 k

Should be pretty standard. 
 
  On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Bobby Raagas wrote:
  
   I want to give a special acces to a user in my linux box to shutdown it,
   how will i do it? I'm using MDK 6.0 (Venus)
  
   Thanks
  
 
 -- 
 ---
 Kelly Dorset 
 HTML programmer for Insight UK
 http://www.insight.com/uk
 ---
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ---
 



RE: [newbie] Oh, yeah

1999-07-27 Thread Joseph Gardner

I'm game for a few online "quickies"


Regards,

Joseph Gardner
Senior Designer / Technical Support
Kirby Company


-Original Message-
From:   Richard Myers [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Tuesday, July 27, 1999 11:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: [newbie] Oh, yeah


 On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Richard Myers wrote:
  Neat stuff, huh? This is Unix.
  best wishes,
  richard myers
 
On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, darkknight wrote:
 : )  Ever thought about teaching?

We, I taught an online college-level Intro to Unix course for several
years. Gave it up because (1) the college didn't support it well enough,
and (2) I make ten times as much money working for Lucent Technologies.

 I always had trouble grasping the diferrence between hard links and soft
 (symbolic) links, untill now. And I was'nt even the poster of the message.
 cool ,  thanks alot, you really have patients and should consider teaching as a
 career. Great stuff indeed, Unix has always facinated me but I thought it too
 hard for me to grasp. More lessons like that and there might be hope for me yet.
 I shure am glad I make it a habbit to at least skim through each and every post.
 Thanks alot,
 John Love
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hmmm. Glad it helped. Maybe we should do some quickie Unix-command-line
intro lessons online. QUESTION: should it be on this list, or would it be
better to start a new, separate maillist? Or should we just try a few easy
lessons, and see how it goes, with the option to move elsewhere later?

What say, everyone?


best wishes,

richard myers

 application/ms-tnef


Re: [newbie] Oh, yeah

1999-07-27 Thread John Aldrich

On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, you wrote:

 Hmmm. Glad it helped. Maybe we should do some quickie Unix-command-line
 intro lessons online. QUESTION: should it be on this list, or would it be
 better to start a new, separate maillist? Or should we just try a few easy
 lessons, and see how it goes, with the option to move elsewhere later?
 
I'd vote for start here and move elsewhere as needed. :-)
Just my 2 cents' worth.



[newbie] Unix lessons; was:[ Oh, yeah]

1999-07-27 Thread Ripcrd6



Hmmm. Glad it helped. Maybe we should do some quickie Unix-command-line
intro lessons online. QUESTION: should it be on this list, or would it be
better to start a new, separate maillist? Or should we just try a few easy
lessons, and see how it goes, with the option to move elsewhere later?

What say, everyone?


best wishes,

richard myers

Oh, please do.  I feel like I'm in remedial school anyway.   Damn, there
should have been basic *nix classes required for every major at my Univ.
They just told us how to do the bare minimum in the computer lab.  I guess
they didn't want us to be dangerous.
Brian



Re: [newbie] shuting down by ord. user..

1999-07-27 Thread James Stewart

On Tue 27 Jul, Matt Stegman wrote:
 /etc/shutdown.allow is a file that contains the names of users aloowed to
 shutdown the system.  It may not be present on your system yet; you'll
 have to create it.

My shutdown.allow file is:

"james
jim
root"

but only root can issue the shutdown command. When I try it as either other
user I get the error "bash: shutdown: command not found"

 Also check /etc/inittab to see if Ctrl-Alt-Del is being caught.  If so,
 anybody (not just those in shutdown.allow) may shutdown the system via the
 "three finger salute."  What you might do is change the Ctrl-Alt-Del
 command to "logout" or something else that's harmless.

My inittab file contains the line

"ca::ctrlaltdel:logout"

but pressing Ctrl-Alt-Del does nothing.

I'm running Mandrake 6.0 on a Toshiba 480cdt laptop.

James.

-- 
James Stewart - [EMAIL PROTECTED]  | "Telecom ignored us and 
The Britlinks - http://www.britlinks.co.uk | democracy has died."
Phantom Tollbooth - http://www.tollbooth.org   |   -- Fat And Frantic

Sixpence None The Richer in the UK - http://www.britlinks.co.uk/sixpence/



Re: [newbie] shuting down by ord. user..

1999-07-27 Thread Matt Stegman

/etc/inittab allows commands to be differed by runlevel (i.e. do this in
runlevel 3, do that in runlevel 5) but not by user.  What you can do
instead, however, is add the -a option to the shutdown command in
/etc/inittab:

In inittab, change the line that says
ca::ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t3 -r now
to say 
ca::ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -a -t3 -r now

 are these specific to certain versions of linux, or are these facilities
 present on all versions?

Well, I suppose if you have a really, really, really old version of init, 
it might not have had the Ctrl-Alt-Del catch implemented yet, but If
you're using Mandrake, Debian, RH, SLackware, whatever, it will work just 
the same. As to shutdown, well, every distribution had damn well better
include it- you can't safely shut down the machine without it!

 -Matt

P.S. Is "differed" really a word?

On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Theo Brinkman wrote:

 Can you control what Ctrl-Alt-Del does by user?  (i.e.: Let root reboot
 the system that way, but have it just log everyone else out?)
 
   - Theo
 
 Matt Stegman wrote:
  
  /etc/shutdown.allow is a file that contains the names of users aloowed to
  shutdown the system.  It may not be present on your system yet; you'll
  have to create it.
  
  Also check /etc/inittab to see if Ctrl-Alt-Del is being caught.  If so,
  anybody (not just those in shutdown.allow) may shutdown the system via the
  "three finger salute."  What you might do is change the Ctrl-Alt-Del
  command to "logout" or something else that's harmless.
  
   -Matt
  
  On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Bobby Raagas wrote:
  
   I want to give a special acces to a user in my linux box to shutdown it,
   how will i do it? I'm using MDK 6.0 (Venus)
  
   Thanks
  
 




Re: [newbie] Toshiba Satellite 2065 and Sound

1999-07-27 Thread Ripcrd6

-Original Message-
From: David Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I have a Satellite 2065, in checking around regarding Toshiba and Linux
and
in Toshiba Europe's main "unsupported but we have to mention it because we
know that we eventually will" page, I might be out of luck on the sound
card
and the modem for now as they list.

I did find something on a listserv I'm going to try for the modem
regarding
"statserial" which I'll try.

Regarding the sound card there is something weird.  It's an ESS that I've
not seen before.  While standard examples of ESS for laptops (I've had
them
since 1996 in an AST in a TI Travelmate what a piece of junk that laptop
was)include the 688, 1688 and 1888 this one is odd.  It has an "ESS
Device
Manager" at Interrupt Request 11 and a "Maestro DOS Games/FM Devices" at
Interrupt Request 05.  Strange?  They are usually easy, tried and true
sound
cards.   In doing sndconfig it can't find it via PnP nor can it be
manually
set.

Could it be a WinSound card? ;-)  Looks like it's using some sort of
software control for the device.  Look in your BIOS setup to see if you can
change options on this device.   Since it is probably impossible to change
out the sound card (chips), the device may be hard set in the BIOS.   At
the least, Toshiba or ESS may answer emailed questions about the device.
Ask them what cards the sound card/module/chips are supposed to be
equivalent to.  How did you get the info ("ESS Device Manager" at Interrupt
Request 11 and a "Maestro DOS Games/FM Devices" at Interrupt Request 05)?
was this from Windows95/3.1?


There is are two "DEVICE BUSY" type message that flash across the screen
briefly at boot up dealing with the above.  Since it is Linux-Mandrake
6.0,
it goes right into one of the window managers that comes with it.  I've
been
hunting for some sort of boot log in /etc and in /boot to no avail.  How
do
I turn up the error log level boot up messaging file and where is that
file
located?

I apologize for being such a novice.



Re: [newbie] shuting down by ord. user..

1999-07-27 Thread William Meyer

 P.S. Is "differed" really a word?

It is, but the word you needed was deferred.



RE: [newbie] Toshiba Satellite 2065 and Sound

1999-07-27 Thread David Klein

Thanks Ripcrd6.  I'll look in the bios and on the ESS site (Toshiba wouldn't
help).  As far as the info, I got it from Windows 98, settings, control
panel, system.  It looks like a combo sound, games and midi controller or
something.  Thanks Again! David Klein.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ripcrd6
Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 1:54 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Toshiba Satellite 2065 and Sound


-Original Message-
From: David Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I have a Satellite 2065, in checking around regarding Toshiba and Linux
and
in Toshiba Europe's main "unsupported but we have to mention it because we
know that we eventually will" page, I might be out of luck on the sound
card
and the modem for now as they list.

I did find something on a listserv I'm going to try for the modem
regarding
"statserial" which I'll try.

Regarding the sound card there is something weird.  It's an ESS that I've
not seen before.  While standard examples of ESS for laptops (I've had
them
since 1996 in an AST in a TI Travelmate what a piece of junk that laptop
was)include the 688, 1688 and 1888 this one is odd.  It has an "ESS
Device
Manager" at Interrupt Request 11 and a "Maestro DOS Games/FM Devices" at
Interrupt Request 05.  Strange?  They are usually easy, tried and true
sound
cards.   In doing sndconfig it can't find it via PnP nor can it be
manually
set.

Could it be a WinSound card? ;-)  Looks like it's using some sort of
software control for the device.  Look in your BIOS setup to see if you can
change options on this device.   Since it is probably impossible to change
out the sound card (chips), the device may be hard set in the BIOS.   At
the least, Toshiba or ESS may answer emailed questions about the device.
Ask them what cards the sound card/module/chips are supposed to be
equivalent to.  How did you get the info ("ESS Device Manager" at Interrupt
Request 11 and a "Maestro DOS Games/FM Devices" at Interrupt Request 05)?
was this from Windows95/3.1?


There is are two "DEVICE BUSY" type message that flash across the screen
briefly at boot up dealing with the above.  Since it is Linux-Mandrake
6.0,
it goes right into one of the window managers that comes with it.  I've
been
hunting for some sort of boot log in /etc and in /boot to no avail.  How
do
I turn up the error log level boot up messaging file and where is that
file
located?

I apologize for being such a novice.



[newbie] 2 questions

1999-07-27 Thread Ty Mixon

1)  How do I put an fstab entry sot that I can mount my old floppy 
controlled QIC-80 tape drive?  Or do I use something else.  I want to 
use KDat to make backups.  Right now, I have none (no mass storage) 
and I'm getting nervous.

2)  In Kppp I have the whole path to klicq in the 'start when 
connected' box, but it doesn't start.  Anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks!!

-- 
Ty Mixon
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ:26147713






Re: [newbie] new configured kernel

1999-07-27 Thread Theo Brinkman

You'll need to edit /etc/lilo.conf to reflect the name of the kernel you
are upgrading to.  Look for the 'image = /boot/vmlinuz-2.2.9-19mdk' line
(at least that's what it reads in mine), and change the vmlinuz... to
reflect what the new kernel is called.

- Theo

helmut halfmann wrote:
 
 On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, you wrote:
  On Sun, 25 Jul 1999, you wrote:
 
   After the new configuration of the kernel (I removed for example the modules I
   do not need) I compile it (also make modules and make modules_install and make
   zlilo) without a problem. Then I install lilo... without any problems... After
   this I restart my computer and the boot up stops at the message:
  
  Try re-running LILO and it SHOULD (from what I've read in
  here -- never tried updating kernels -- yet G)
  reconfigure LILO so that it recognizes your new kernel.
 
 Hey!
 Thanks for the answer. My problem is not that I can't select the new (my)
 kernel at the beginning. When I start lilo and make zlilo I don't get an error
 msg.  ?
 
 cu
 Helmut



[newbie] ipchains question.

1999-07-27 Thread Beacham Tim P

I have installed LM as firewall for a company that was using NT proxy.
All IP from the private network routes out fine except they can no longer
receive exchange email from internet senders.   The exchange server is on a
private IP number (192.168.0.2) behind the firewall as it was with the proxy
server before.   I am not familiar with Exchange server (and I do not expect
anyone here to be...) but is this just a port forwarding thing for SMTP
traffic??? If so, how does one port forward with ipchains? I assume
that I would forward the smtp port to my NT server right?

Thanks!
---
Beach ¤ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No, try not.. do, or do not.. there is no try.   -Yoda



[newbie] Problems with updatedb ?

1999-07-27 Thread Dominique Deleris

Hi list.

I have launched updatedb as root, and now I have a process (slocate)
that has been running for 25 minutes, consuming 80-90 % cpu-time, and
that does not seem to come to an end.

I've cheked my /var/lib/slocate directory, and it shows :

-rw-r--r--   1 root root0 Jul 27 21:51 slocate.db
-rw-r-   1 root slocate 49410 Jul 27 21:52 slocate.db.tmp

What's happening ?

Thanks for your help.

Dominique



Re: [newbie] Problems with updatedb ?

1999-07-27 Thread Matt Stegman

Do you have a FAT or FAT32 partition mounted anywhere?  If so, I think you
can fix this by 
First: killing the offending process (`killall slocate`)
Second: Telling updatedb to ignore that partition in the future
(edit /etc/updatedb.conf and add the mount point of the FAT
partition to the EXCLUDE section)

I had this same problem and telling updatedb/slocate to exclude the FAT
partition fixed it.

 -Matt

On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Dominique Deleris wrote:

 Hi list.
 
 I have launched updatedb as root, and now I have a process (slocate)
 that has been running for 25 minutes, consuming 80-90 % cpu-time, and
 that does not seem to come to an end.
 
 I've cheked my /var/lib/slocate directory, and it shows :
 
 -rw-r--r--   1 root root0 Jul 27 21:51 slocate.db
 -rw-r-   1 root slocate 49410 Jul 27 21:52 slocate.db.tmp
 
 What's happening ?
 
 Thanks for your help.
 
 Dominique
 



[newbie] Linux Quake II Sound Problems

1999-07-27 Thread Joe Patton

I followed a link from the Creative Labs soundblaster.com website to
OpenSound.com to get Linux sound drivers for my Sound Blaster PCI 128.  The
sound card works well in the KDE X-Windows environment.  I ran into a
problem when I installed Quake II for Linux.  When I launch Quake II, an OSS
message displays, and my system locks up hard.  Has anyone on this list
tried to run Quake II with the OSS sound system installed?

Right now, Linux is a pretty weak platform for PC Games.  Will Linux ever
catch up to Microsoft's home computer operating systems in that category?

Joe Patton



Re: [newbie] Oh, yeah

1999-07-27 Thread Andy Goth

  I was about to make that statement earlier, but I then thought it wasn't
  tre since everything that has been said indicated that hard links point
  to a single file and when all hard links die the file does as well (and
  that kinda invalidated what I thought).  It's a good thing this isn't
  the case!  It's waaay too complicated and unwieldly.  Imagine making a
  hard link and changing your mind about it... if this was true, I
  couldn't delete it!  The truth is much better.  Yeah, that is a good
  idea about deletion protection.  If I want to make sure that some data
  cannot be deleted, I can keep a hard link.
 
 I think that you misunderstand.

Remember?  I was showing the cause of my misundestanding.  I was
confused that there were *files* and separate *hard links* to those
*files*.  I do understand now.  Filenames are hard links to the data. 
Making several hard links to data makes more filenames that point to the
same data.
 
 A hard link is the way that you access a file. BUT, there is only one
 file.
 
 Suppose that we have a file named... well, lets create a file:
 
 $ echo put this in a file  hardlink_1
 $
 
 We have created a file the "quick" way, and we gave it the name
 hardlink_1.
 
 And then we "cat" the file, which shows what is in the file.
 
 $ cat hardlink_1
 put this in a file
 $
 
 Hardlink_1 is a text file which has the contents, "put this in a file".
 
 OK, lets say it a different way. The echo command sends (we say it
 re-directs) "put this in a file" into the contents of a file named
 hardlink_1. The "" character is the nifty command that does this
 redirection.

I know.   is good for appending, too.
 
 Lets look at the long display of this file:
 
 $ ls -l
 total 2
 -rw-rw-r--   1 rtm  465   19 Jul 27 02:09 hardlink_1
 $
 
 OK, notice that it has a file size of 19 (just before the date).
 
 Count the characters in the "string" of characters:
 
 123456789012345678
 put this in a file
 
 18. One extra byte to store this string gives us the 19.

The extra byte... a character to signal the end-of-file?
 
 Now we will add another hard link:
 
 $ ln hardlink_1 hardlink_2
 $
 
 ...and if we look at our directory again:
 
 $ ls -l
 total 4
 -rw-rw-r--   2 rtm  465   19 Jul 27 02:09 hardlink_1
 -rw-rw-r--   2 rtm  465   19 Jul 27 02:09 hardlink_2
 $
 
 Both filenames point to the same file. We can display the contents of
 both files:
 
 $ cat *
 put this in a file
 put this in a file
 $
 
 Well, actually, we displayed the contents of ONE file twice. Once using
 each filename. The * is a wildcard that matches all filenames in the
 directory.
 
 OK, now for the test.
 
 We are going to redirect "nothing" to the first hardlink.
 
 $  hardlink_1
 $
 
 We have replaced the contents of hardlink_1 with "nothing". Since there is
 nothing in front of the "", nothing is put into the file, replacing
 whatever had been there. Notice that we don't even need the echo command
 to do this.
 
 And, ls -l tells the story:
 
 $ ls -l
 total 0
 -rw-rw-r--   2 rtm  4650 Jul 27 02:22 hardlink_1
 -rw-rw-r--   2 rtm  4650 Jul 27 02:22 hardlink_2
 $
 
 For further proof, try to cat the contents of the two files (or more
 accurately, the contents of our ONE file twice):
 
 $ cat *
 $
 
 Nothing there.
 
 Soo, a second hard link doesn't "protect" the contents of a file. It
 only offers another way to access the contents of a file.

It protects it from *deletion*, which is what I was talking about.  Of
course, since deletion is only one way to wreck a file, it's not that
important.
 
 If we use either hard link to change that file, then the contents are
 changed. Period.

I understand already!  I guess I didn't explain myself very well.
 
 Now, lets create a soft link and put something back into the file:
 
 $ ln -s hardlink_1 softlink_1
 $
 
 The -s "switch" to the link command ln makes this a symbolic, or "soft"
 link, instead of a hard link.
 
 $ ls -l
 total 2
 -rw-rw-r--   2 rtm465  0 Jul 27 02:22 hardlink_1
 -rw-rw-r--   2 rtm465  0 Jul 27 02:22 hardlink_2
 lrwxrwxrwx   1 rtm465 10 Jul 27 02:35 softlink_1 - hardlink_1
 
 Whoa! Notice that our soft link is created with WORLD WRITE permissions
 (the 3rd "w" in the group of "rwx's" in the line above). Doesn't matter,
 the symlink REALLY inherits the permissions of whatever it points to.
 
 Also notice that the symlink has 10 bytes. Why is that?
 
 Now we will put something into the file that the symlink points to:
 
 $ echo another string  softlink_1
 $
 
 So, what happens if we cat the contents of all the files in the directory?
 
 $ cat *
 another string
 another string
 another string
 $
 
 $ ls -l
 total 6
 -rw-rw-r--   2 rtm   465   15 Jul 27 02:35 hardlink_1
 -rw-rw-r--   2 rtm   465   15 Jul 27 02:35 hardlink_2
 lrwxrwxrwx   1 rtm   465   10 Jul 27 02:35 softlink_1 - hardlink_1
 $
 
 All of our files now contain 15 bytes-- 14 for the string, 

Re: [newbie] shuting down by ord. user..

1999-07-27 Thread Andy Goth

 /etc/shutdown.allow is a file that contains the names of users aloowed to
 shutdown the system.  It may not be present on your system yet; you'll
 have to create it.

Is it a list of user names (or UID's)?  Is there a man page on it?  I'm
away from Linux right now... I don't feel like starting up another
computer.

 Also check /etc/inittab to see if Ctrl-Alt-Del is being caught.  If so,
 anybody (not just those in shutdown.allow) may shutdown the system via the
 "three finger salute."  What you might do is change the Ctrl-Alt-Del
 command to "logout" or something else that's harmless.

Will Ctrl+Alt+Del reboot the system if it's typed at *any* terminal?



Re: [newbie] shuting down by ord. user..

1999-07-27 Thread Andy Goth

  /etc/shutdown.allow is a file that contains the names of users aloowed to
  shutdown the system.  It may not be present on your system yet; you'll
  have to create it.
 
 My shutdown.allow file is:
 
 "james
 jim
 root"
 
 but only root can issue the shutdown command. When I try it as either other
 user I get the error "bash: shutdown: command not found"

That's because typically only root has the /sbin directory in his path. 
Any user (who can get into /sbin) can find the shutdown command. 
Consider putting symlinks to shutdown in the ~/bin directories of each
user who should be able to shutdown (that is, assuming that ~/bin is in
everyone's path).
 
  Also check /etc/inittab to see if Ctrl-Alt-Del is being caught.  If so,
  anybody (not just those in shutdown.allow) may shutdown the system via the
  "three finger salute."  What you might do is change the Ctrl-Alt-Del
  command to "logout" or something else that's harmless.
 
 My inittab file contains the line
 
 "ca::ctrlaltdel:logout"
 
 but pressing Ctrl-Alt-Del does nothing.

I don't know why.
 
 I'm running Mandrake 6.0 on a Toshiba 480cdt laptop.



Re: [newbie] shuting down by ord. user..

1999-07-27 Thread Andy Goth

  I'm running Mandrake 6.0 on a Toshiba 480cdt laptop.

Is that a Satellite Pro?
 
 Could the numlock status be doing weird things with the delete key? I hear
 some Laptops are weird that way.  Try toggling the numlock; see if it
 works then.

laughs out loud

Good luck finding the NumLock key!  There isn't one!  If you want to
simulate the NumLock key, press Fn+F10 or Fn+F11.  F10 turns the
following keys into a numeric keypad (with NumLock off), and F11 turns
them into a keypad with NumLock on: 7890UIOPJKL;M./



[newbie] Partioning

1999-07-27 Thread Art Rowe

Has anyone tried DiskDrake, a Linux Sisk Tool which does partitions. I
downloaded but haven't figured out how to unzip it. It is a beta
program.

Art

Andy Goth wrote:
 
  Basically what Partition Magic does that fdisk doesn't, is resize existing
  partitions without requiring you to first destroy them (and everything on them)
  and recreate them.  I guess that's convenient but -I- wouldn't pay $70 for it.
  :)
 
 So it's a nondestructive partition resizer?  That doesn't sound
 exceedingly hard to write.  I mean, shouldn't fdisk be able to do this?
 I understand that it's still *much* easier to reformat everything, but
 moving data... The snag is that it'll take direct writes.  It shouldn't
 be too hard to grab one block of data and move it over some on disk.  If
 they overlap, start from the other direction.  Use memory, too, when the
 overlapping gets to be too much.  What more is there?



[newbie] SAMBA troubles!

1999-07-27 Thread Petey

After spending the last four days trying to get SAMBA running with shares
for win 95 clients, I am appealing to the greater net community.  Here's my
situation.  I've tried multiple times to try and get SAMBA running, and I
can't get anything to pop up in the win 95 network neighborhood.  All tests
I've done using smbclient have all come out fine, indicating I should be
able to mount a share.  I had it running under Mandrake 6.0 before, but I
got a new hard drive and reinstalled and now nothing works.  I've made all
of the correct entries in the /etc/hosts, /etc/lmhosts, and /etc/smb.conf
files for a basic share, but still to no avail.  I've tried on multiple win
95 clients with different IP addresses and still nothing.  I use both SWAT
and a text editor to edit the files and testparm to check and make sure
they are valid.  Does anyone have any idea of what I can do to get a basic
server up and running.  I basically want to share a network drive with win
95 clients.  Is there a possibility that a mistake in one of my basic IP
config files would affect SAMBA in such a manner while leaving the rest of
the main internet connectivity (ftp, http, etc.) usable?  Any and all help
is appreciated.

Jason Peterson




Re: [newbie] Oh, yeah

1999-07-27 Thread Art Rowe

I would be interested in short tutorials, geared to the time I take to
scan my incoming e-mail and mail lists. I am reading Teach Yourself
Unix in 24 Hours at the moment. The discussion on hard links was
esoteric for my present  state of Linux, but I didn't know what a
CD-rom was a few years ago,].

Art



 
 Hmmm. Glad it helped. Maybe we should do some quickie Unix-command-line
 intro lessons online. QUESTION: should it be on this list, or would it be
 better to start a new, separate maillist? Or should we just try a few easy
 lessons, and see how it goes, with the option to move elsewhere later?
 
 What say, everyone?
 
 best wishes,
 
 richard myers



Re: [newbie] Unix lessons; was:[ Oh, yeah]

1999-07-27 Thread jsm

I think that " lessons " would be great for this list . After all it is a
newbie list . And I don't really understand half of what I read on this list
anyhow . Is there a " new newbie " list somewhere ? Am I really this far behind
the rest of the class ?

jsm

BTW...it seems like many of the books that I've seen take for granted that you
have more knowledge about Linux than I have . And I'm not new to computers (
just Linux ) . I'm the one that everyone in my family calls when they have
problems with there Windows systems !






Ripcrd6 wrote:

 
 Hmmm. Glad it helped. Maybe we should do some quickie Unix-command-line
 intro lessons online. QUESTION: should it be on this list, or would it be
 better to start a new, separate maillist? Or should we just try a few easy
 lessons, and see how it goes, with the option to move elsewhere later?
 
 What say, everyone?
 
 
 best wishes,
 
 richard myers

 Oh, please do.  I feel like I'm in remedial school anyway.   Damn, there
 should have been basic *nix classes required for every major at my Univ.
 They just told us how to do the bare minimum in the computer lab.  I guess
 they didn't want us to be dangerous.
 Brian



RE: [newbie] Partioning

1999-07-27 Thread Thomas J. Hamman


On 27-Jul-99 Art Rowe wrote:
 Has anyone tried DiskDrake, a Linux Sisk Tool which does partitions. I
 downloaded but haven't figured out how to unzip it. It is a beta
 program.
 
 Art

I've taken a look at it, but haven't tried partitioning with it yet (since
generally I'd do partitioning either during an installation, or beforehand from
a boot disk).  It looks functional and useable.  It appears to be able to
resize DOS partitions, but cannot resize Linux partitions yet.

To extract a tar.gz (or tgz) file, use this command:

tar zxvf filename

-Most- tar.gz will extract into their own subdirectory under the directory you
extract them from.  In the case of DiskDrake, if it hasn't changed since I
tried it, it extracts into a directory called 'diskdrake'.  cd into that dir,
and type './diskdrake.README' which runs a script that compiles some source code
and then runs diskdrake.  After that you can just type './diskdrake' from the
diskdrake directory to run it.

That's assuming they haven't changed that since I tried it, though; keep in
mind it's still rapidly developing beta software. :)  Also if there are any
documentation files with it (like a README), read them.
 
 Andy Goth wrote:
 
  Basically what Partition Magic does that fdisk doesn't, is resize existing
  partitions without requiring you to first destroy them (and everything on
  them)
  and recreate them.  I guess that's convenient but -I- wouldn't pay $70 for
  it.
  :)
 
 So it's a nondestructive partition resizer?  That doesn't sound
 exceedingly hard to write.  I mean, shouldn't fdisk be able to do this?
 I understand that it's still *much* easier to reformat everything, but
 moving data... The snag is that it'll take direct writes.  It shouldn't
 be too hard to grab one block of data and move it over some on disk.  If
 they overlap, start from the other direction.  Use memory, too, when the
 overlapping gets to be too much.  What more is there?



RE: [newbie] Apache

1999-07-27 Thread Jackal

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Well a good place to start would be the apache documentation that is in the
httpd directory unless it was not installed or removed.  The next best thing if
u cannot find your answer is to go to apache's site http://www.apache.org.

The most common use of htaccess is to prompt for a password when someone tries
to access a particular page (note not the onnly thing but one of the most
common).  

Mail me directly if u need info on that...

On 27-Jul-99 Nichols, Jason wrote:
 Can anybody point me towards a good explanation of how to use .htaccess
 files in apache? 
 Thanks!
 Jason

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[newbie] How to create a multiple boot configuration

1999-07-27 Thread Lorenzo Jimenez

Hi,

Recently I completed a Linux install but how can I create a multiple boot
(aka Windows 95 menu) so
i can choose W95 or Linux without the floppy disk.


TIA

Lorenzo J. ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] )






Re: [newbie] Redhat 6 and Soundblaster Live

1999-07-27 Thread darkknight

On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Martin White wrote:
 I know i'm not the person you directed your mail to, but i'm going to reply
 anyway !!
 
 I thought the sound of the SBLive was pretty crappy under linux with the
 first two versions of the driver, but with the advent of the new version,
 things seem to sound considerably better now (or is that just my perception
 ?).
 
 I must say though that what sets the SBLive apart from some of the other
 higher end cards in creative's range - the Awe64 even if we go a way back -
 is meant to be the stuff live environmental audio, creatives sound fonts,
 etc. etc.
 
 AFAIK, none of this is yet available under linux, and therefore if you
 solely run linux, at the moment you would probably be wasting your money.
 
 If like me you want blindingly good sound when you're watching DVDs, playing
 games or whatever you do under Windows, and want as a bonus for your linux
 install to sound good too, then go ahead and get one, it's well worth the
 money !!
 
 Martin.
 

Thanks for responding,

I should have been more specifif in the first place anyway, sorry I was not.
What I would want the sound card for is LInux,  as I do not use Windows at all
any longer. My main interrest's would be good midi file playback as well as
good mp3 file playback. I had heard that with there earlier releases, Creative
still had not got the midi or mp3 playback working that well. So my main
concerne is how they got the midi and mp3 sound working. As far as normal
system sounds, such as .au .wav .voc etc. my SB16 can even handle that well
enough, my only reason for buying the SB Live would be for improved midi and
mp3 playback. Can you give me any advice in that area?

Thanks in advance,

John Love
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [newbie] Unix lessons; was:[ Oh, yeah]

1999-07-27 Thread Vox

At 12:32 PM 7/27/99 , you wrote:

 
 Hmmm. Glad it helped. Maybe we should do some quickie Unix-command-line
 intro lessons online. QUESTION: should it be on this list, or would it be
 better to start a new, separate maillist? Or should we just try a few easy
 lessons, and see how it goes, with the option to move elsewhere later?
 
 What say, everyone?
 
 
 best wishes,
 
 richard myers

Oh, please do.  I feel like I'm in remedial school anyway.   Damn, there
should have been basic *nix classes required for every major at my Univ.
They just told us how to do the bare minimum in the computer lab.  I guess
they didn't want us to be dangerous.
Brian

 Count me in! :)  And if at some point in time we need to move it 
to some other list, we can do it in OneList (it works nicely, I run 3 
mailing lists there :) if nobody has a server to offer :)

 Arioshi ba :)

 Vox



"Vox populi, Vox Dei"
Pain is the gift of the gods...and I'm the one they chose as their 
messenger



Re: [newbie] shuting down by ord. user..

1999-07-27 Thread darkknight

On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, James Stewart wrote:
 On Tue 27 Jul, Matt Stegman wrote:
  /etc/shutdown.allow is a file that contains the names of users aloowed to
  shutdown the system.  It may not be present on your system yet; you'll
  have to create it.
 
 My shutdown.allow file is:
 
 "james
 jim
 root"
 
 but only root can issue the shutdown command. When I try it as either other
 user I get the error "bash: shutdown: command not found"
 
 James.
 

shutdown is actully a program in the /sbin directory, you will need to put
/sbin in the path for the other users or try /sbin/shutdown see if that works.

John Love
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [newbie] SAMBA troubles!

1999-07-27 Thread Vox



95 clients with different IP addresses and still nothing.  I use both SWAT

 Without seeing your smb.conf file it's hard to know what the 
problem is, but one thing comes to mind...NT and 98 use "encrypted" (or 
what MS says is encrypted) passwords, while 95 doesn'tSamba con use 
either encrypted or not...is it possible that you have samba configured to 
use encrypted passwords?  IF that's not the answer, post your smb.conf file 
and somebody should be able to help :)

95 clients.  Is there a possibility that a mistake in one of my basic IP
config files would affect SAMBA in such a manner while leaving the rest of
the main internet connectivity (ftp, http, etc.) usable?

 Not that I know...my bet goes for a misconfigured smb.conf :)

 Arioshi ba :)

 Vox




"Vox populi, Vox Dei"
Pain is the gift of the gods...and I'm the one they chose as their 
messenger



Re: [newbie] Unix lessons; was:[ Oh, yeah]

1999-07-27 Thread darkknight

On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Vox wrote:
 At 12:32 PM 7/27/99 , you wrote:
 
  
  Hmmm. Glad it helped. Maybe we should do some quickie Unix-command-line
  intro lessons online. QUESTION: should it be on this list, or would it be
  better to start a new, separate maillist? Or should we just try a few easy
  lessons, and see how it goes, with the option to move elsewhere later?
  
  What say, everyone?
  
  
  best wishes,
  
  richard myers
 
 Oh, please do.  I feel like I'm in remedial school anyway.   Damn, there
 should have been basic *nix classes required for every major at my Univ.
 They just told us how to do the bare minimum in the computer lab.  I guess
 they didn't want us to be dangerous.
 Brian
 
  Count me in! :)  And if at some point in time we need to move it 
 to some other list, we can do it in OneList (it works nicely, I run 3 
 mailing lists there :) if nobody has a server to offer :)
 
  Arioshi ba :)
 
  Vox
 
 
 
 "Vox populi, Vox Dei"
 Pain is the gift of the gods...and I'm the one they chose as their 
 messenger

I would like the lesson's of course, but I am not sure the list would
appreciate the extra bandwidth.
I seem to live in a cacoon, I never heard of OneList, but perhaps if it would
not be an extra burden, we can try to have a list for the lessons there.

John Love
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [newbie] Redhat 6 and Soundblaster Live

1999-07-27 Thread Thomas J. Hamman

On 28-Jul-99 darkknight wrote:
 What I would want the sound card for is LInux,  as I do not use Windows at
 all
 any longer. My main interrest's would be good midi file playback as well as
 good mp3 file playback. I had heard that with there earlier releases,
 Creative
 still had not got the midi or mp3 playback working that well. So my main
 concerne is how they got the midi and mp3 sound working. As far as normal
 system sounds, such as .au .wav .voc etc. my SB16 can even handle that well
 enough, my only reason for buying the SB Live would be for improved midi and
 mp3 playback. Can you give me any advice in that area?

mp3's are just very compressed wav's, so if your mp3's sound poor it is
probably more likely heavy CPU usage (the CPU is used constantly during mp3
playback, working on decompressing the mp3 as it's played), a problem during
the ripping or encoding of the mp3, or maybe just a low bitrate.  An SB16
should be enough for your mp3's to sound nearly as good as an audio CD played
in your CD-ROM drive... depending on the bitrate the mp3 is encoded at, of
course.

As for midi's... I guess there are lots of cards that are newer now, but I am
pretty happy with my SB AWE64.  Nice, typical, widely used sound card that (for
me) sndconfig has no trouble setting up.


-Tom



Re: [newbie] Unix lessons; was:[ Oh, yeah]

1999-07-27 Thread Stan Bernstein

jsm,

I am also in the "newbie newbie" category, just trying to learn enough to
install linux and run some basic programs from it. I've used shell-based
programs to negotiate the Internet (pine, nn, ftp, telnet, etc.), but
don't have a clear idea of how to install linux in this 350 Mhz P2 Win98
machine. Can someone recommend some really basic books?

Thanks,
SB
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, jsm wrote:

 I think that " lessons " would be great for this list . After all it is a
 newbie list . And I don't really understand half of what I read on this list
 anyhow . Is there a " new newbie " list somewhere ? Am I really this far behind
 the rest of the class ?
 
 jsm
 
 BTW...it seems like many of the books that I've seen take for granted that you
 have more knowledge about Linux than I have . And I'm not new to computers (
 just Linux ) . I'm the one that everyone in my family calls when they have
 problems with there Windows systems !
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Ripcrd6 wrote:
 
  
  Hmmm. Glad it helped. Maybe we should do some quickie Unix-command-line
  intro lessons online. QUESTION: should it be on this list, or would it be
  better to start a new, separate maillist? Or should we just try a few easy
  lessons, and see how it goes, with the option to move elsewhere later?
  
  What say, everyone?
  
  
  best wishes,
  
  richard myers
 
  Oh, please do.  I feel like I'm in remedial school anyway.   Damn, there
  should have been basic *nix classes required for every major at my Univ.
  They just told us how to do the bare minimum in the computer lab.  I guess
  they didn't want us to be dangerous.
  Brian
 
 



[newbie] SBlive! in Mandrake 2.2.9

1999-07-27 Thread Cindy Pearce

I have been following this thread and have been able to get my SBlive! to
work but only by typing modprobe soundcore and insmod -f emu10k1 in a
terminal window in KDE. I tried adding the recommended lines to the
conf.modules file( the pre-install and post-remove lines) but I get nothing
but errors and the sound doesn't work.
Any ideas or do you need more specific info?

Thanks,

Cindy



[newbie] turning KDE off

1999-07-27 Thread russ proudman

I've got KDE set to automatically start whenever I boot up Linux-Mandrake. 
But I want to exit KDE (not just a shell within KDE) and can't get there.

What's the trick to go back to good ol' Linux without auto KDE?

Thx.


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Re: [newbie] Re:HTML mail to this list?

1999-07-27 Thread Bert Bullough

Will everyone stfu about HTML.

Art Rowe wrote:

 

 I have used Outlook Express and like it very much, but I am running Mandrake
 Linux only at the moment. I am not sure about KFM browser, but Linux Netscape
 Mail does HTML fine. I like to have HTML turned on because some of my mail
 lists come that way and look much better.  I have a rather basic system Pentium
 133 and a 1.6 hard drive. I would think people with at least that much
 computing power could reasd html if they want to. If they don't want to,
 perhaps they czn just skip those messages.

 Art

  HTML is bulkier as a lot of formatting tags and other extranious
  non-information bearing garbage.  What's wrong with a plain text message.
 
  Also, not everyone is equipped to handle html, I'm pretty sure Pine doesn't.
 



Re: [newbie] Problem with PPP connection

1999-07-27 Thread Bert Bullough

Do you have DNS #'s for the isp listed in the settings of the ppp connection? I ran
into that problem myself today.

"Thomas J. Hamman" wrote:

 I'm trying to help someone else get Mandrake to work, and she is having a
 problem with her PPP connection.

 Basically, her modem seems to work fine, and apparently she can connect fine to
 her ISP without any trouble.  However, she cannot connect to anything else (or
 at least not receive any transmitted data from anything else).  For example if
 she tries to retrieve a webpage with Netscape, she gets to the 'contacted host,
 waiting for reply' (or something like that) message and then gets nothing else.
  Results are similar with other programs (like telnet).

 Does anyone know what would cause this, and how to fix it?

 Note:  During the install LILO failed to install in her MBR, and the boot
 disk creation failed also, so I have her using loadlin to boot Linux... but
 otherwise her installation seems fine.

 -Tom



Re: [newbie] Unix lessons; was:[ Oh, yeah]

1999-07-27 Thread Vox

At 09:28 PM 7/27/99 , you wrote:
I would like the lesson's of course, but I am not sure the list would
appreciate the extra bandwidth.

 That's what I was thinking :)

I seem to live in a cacoon, I never heard of OneList, but perhaps if it would
not be an extra burden, we can try to have a list for the lessons there.

 It's a free mailing-list server...think of it as Geocities for 
mailing lists :) They do snap an ad at the bottom of every email (mostly 
ads about OneList itself...not that that makes sense chuckle :) and the 
thing I love about it is that it's very easy to manage AND you can keep an 
archive of mailings (accessible through the web, and I think it's also 
accessible by non-members if the list admin wants it that way) and it also 
has a "private ftp" sorta thing, in which list members can stick files for 
other list members to get...it's a pretty cool thing, and it's free :)

 Soif somebody wants the list set up, I can do it...we can have 
various managers for the list, that way there'll be no problem when I 
disappear for some time once in a while as I usually do :)

 Arioshi ba :)

 Vox



"Vox populi, Vox Dei"
Pain is the gift of the gods...and I'm the one they chose as their 
messenger
For BDSM safety info, visit Vox's Info Center at  http://www.the-vox.com/



Re: [newbie] Partioning

1999-07-27 Thread Art Rowe


Thanks for the helpful information on DiskDrake and the hints on
unzipping the file.

Art

---
"Thomas J. Hamman" wrote:
 
 On 27-Jul-99 Art Rowe wrote:
  Has anyone tried DiskDrake, a Linux Disk Tool which does partitions. I
  downloaded but haven't figured out how to unzip it. 
.

 I've taken a look at it, but haven't tried partitioning with it yet (since
 generally I'd do partitioning either during an installation, or beforehand from
 a boot disk).  It looks functional and useable.  It appears to be able to
 resize DOS partitions, but cannot resize Linux partitions yet. ..



Re: [newbie] Oh, yeah

1999-07-27 Thread Bert Bullough

Anything you can do to help us command-line idiots would be greatly appreciated!

Richard Myers wrote:

  On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Richard Myers wrote:
   Neat stuff, huh? This is Unix.
   best wishes,
   richard myers

 On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, darkknight wrote:
  : )  Ever thought about teaching?

 We, I taught an online college-level Intro to Unix course for several
 years. Gave it up because (1) the college didn't support it well enough,
 and (2) I make ten times as much money working for Lucent Technologies.

  I always had trouble grasping the diferrence between hard links and soft
  (symbolic) links, untill now. And I was'nt even the poster of the message.
  cool ,  thanks alot, you really have patients and should consider teaching as a
  career. Great stuff indeed, Unix has always facinated me but I thought it too
  hard for me to grasp. More lessons like that and there might be hope for me yet.
  I shure am glad I make it a habbit to at least skim through each and every post.
  Thanks alot,
  John Love
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hmmm. Glad it helped. Maybe we should do some quickie Unix-command-line
 intro lessons online. QUESTION: should it be on this list, or would it be
 better to start a new, separate maillist? Or should we just try a few easy
 lessons, and see how it goes, with the option to move elsewhere later?

 What say, everyone?

 best wishes,

 richard myers



Re: [newbie] Unix lessons; was:[ Oh, yeah]

1999-07-27 Thread Bert Bullough

I really like the idea for a web home for the tutorial

darkknight wrote:

 On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Vox wrote:
  At 12:32 PM 7/27/99 , you wrote:
 
   
   Hmmm. Glad it helped. Maybe we should do some quickie Unix-command-line
   intro lessons online. QUESTION: should it be on this list, or would it be
   better to start a new, separate maillist? Or should we just try a few easy
   lessons, and see how it goes, with the option to move elsewhere later?
   
   What say, everyone?
   
   
   best wishes,
   
   richard myers
  
  Oh, please do.  I feel like I'm in remedial school anyway.   Damn, there
  should have been basic *nix classes required for every major at my Univ.
  They just told us how to do the bare minimum in the computer lab.  I guess
  they didn't want us to be dangerous.
  Brian
 
   Count me in! :)  And if at some point in time we need to move it
  to some other list, we can do it in OneList (it works nicely, I run 3
  mailing lists there :) if nobody has a server to offer :)
 
   Arioshi ba :)
 
   Vox
 
 
 
  "Vox populi, Vox Dei"
  Pain is the gift of the gods...and I'm the one they chose as their
  messenger

 I would like the lesson's of course, but I am not sure the list would
 appreciate the extra bandwidth.
 I seem to live in a cacoon, I never heard of OneList, but perhaps if it would
 not be an extra burden, we can try to have a list for the lessons there.

 John Love
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [newbie] turning KDE off

1999-07-27 Thread Patrick Putteman

Type 'linux 3' at the lilo prompt and/or change the initdefault:5 entry in
your etc/inittab file to initdefault:3

Patrick
- Original Message -
From: russ proudman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 5:32 AM
Subject: [newbie] turning KDE off


 I've got KDE set to automatically start whenever I boot up Linux-Mandrake.
 But I want to exit KDE (not just a shell within KDE) and can't get there.

 What's the trick to go back to good ol' Linux without auto KDE?

 Thx.


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RE: [newbie] turning KDE off

1999-07-27 Thread Thomas J. Hamman


On 28-Jul-99 russ proudman wrote:
 I've got KDE set to automatically start whenever I boot up Linux-Mandrake. 
 But I want to exit KDE (not just a shell within KDE) and can't get there.
 
 What's the trick to go back to good ol' Linux without auto KDE?
 
 Thx.
 

I am assuming you mean you have X automatically loading when you boot, so that
you boot to the graphical login screen where you have a choice of several
different window managers (including KDE), and you want to be completely out of
X?

One thing you can do is change to a different virtual console.  You switch
between virtual consoles by pressing alt-f1 through alt-f6; press ctrl along
with alt to switch from X, and also the console with X is always alt-f7.

So for example, you're in X, and want to switch to the second console, you can
press ctrl-alt-f2.  That gives you a textual login, as if you were completely
out of X.  Then you can switch back to X by typing alt-f7.

Now, if you really want to shut X down, go to the second virtual console with
alt-f2, log in as root, and type 'init 3'.  This will switch you to runlevel 3,
which is the runlevel for full multi-user, multi-tasking Linux.  (Note: this
will show a couple processes shutting down, and you may have to press
enter for it to give you the next command prompt.)  If you want to switch back
to runlevel 5, which is the runlevel in which X is automatically run and you're
given the graphical login, type 'init 5'.

If you want to change the default runlevel, open the /etc/inittab file in a
text editor, and look for this line near the top:

id:5:initdefault:

The 5 in that line is what makes the system run in runlevel 5 and start up X
when you boot; change the 5 to a 3 to start with the text-based login prompt.


-Tom



Re: [newbie] turning KDE off

1999-07-27 Thread darkknight

On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, russ proudman wrote:
 I've got KDE set to automatically start whenever I boot up Linux-Mandrake. 
 But I want to exit KDE (not just a shell within KDE) and can't get there.
 
 What's the trick to go back to good ol' Linux without auto KDE?
 
 Thx.
 
 
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I assume you mean you want to exit KDE and be in console mode.
If that is the case, then you will want to boot up in runlevel 3 rather than in
runlevel 5. Runlevel 3 starts in console mode, you can start an Xwindow session
by typing starx at a prompt. Then when you exit the Xwindows session you will
be back at the console prompt. Runlevel 5 starts up and goes right into the
Xwindow login then when you exit, your back at the xwindow login again.
I personally use startx now.
To start in runlevel 3 you will need to change a line in your "/etc/inittab" 
file, a few lines down from the top you should see a line like this:
id:5:initdefault:
change that line to this:
id:3:initdefault:
Just change the 5 to a 3 , in other words :)
You can also do this from linuxconf , but this is the easiest and fastest way.
 
John Love
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: [newbie] SAMBA troubles!

1999-07-27 Thread Dan Brown

Petey wrote:

 situation.  I've tried multiple times to try and get SAMBA running, and I
 can't get anything to pop up in the win 95 network neighborhood.  All tests

Try this:  Click on start, run, then enter "\\linux computer name"
and click OK.  If that doesn't work, try "\\linux machine's IP
address".  I've frequently seen cases where a computer won't appear in
the network neighborhood, even though it is accessible on the network.

Of course, also test to make sure the Win95 machines can see the Linux
box at all--try pinging it by name and IP, etc.

--
Dan Brown, KE6MKS, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good
with ketchup.