[newbie] 7.0 install
A very able indeed expert user has been trying to install version 7.0 for me. on an HP2100 I now have a 'new' CDrom drive, a network, with 2 cards leads box etc a copy of partition magic unfortunately after 6 hours and many hundreds of pounds spent still no Mandrake. in every case the install crashes when one is meant to select a language ie right at the beginning. the keyboardstops functioning. (I am trying to get the latest gimp up, and mandrake 7.0 supports it. My caldera didn't that's trashed and) Is this a known problem, what's the workaround. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jonathan Chetwyndspecial needs teacher andweb accessibility consultant.
[newbie] Connection problem
Hi there, I have configured two PCs (Mandrake7.0 RedHat6.1) in my college network. When the network cards are connected to the network sockets everything is fine,I have access to the www from both and when I ping from one to the other I can get a connection. For example: # ping 155.198.91.168 PING 155.198.91.168 (155.198.91.168) from 155.198.91.82 : 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 155.198.91.168 icmp_seq=0 tt164 time=4.2ms 64 bytes from 155.198.91.168 icmp_seq=0 tt164 time=4.2ms ... However, when I directly connect the two network cards connection is not established, i.e. # ping 155.198.91.168 PING 155.198.91.168 (155.198.91.168) 56 bytes of data. What am I missing? Thanks, in advance Stelios
[newbie] net problem
i have mandrake 7.0.when i connect to the internet through kppp,then netscape can find no host,the same happens with other applications ,such as mail clients.what could be possibly wrong.i would appreciate any help. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [newbie] licq in mdk 7.0
Hey, ya know what.. I had the EXACT same problems and it was annoying as hell.. My suggestion is goto www.kxicq.org and download the RPM for Redhat 6.1... I installed it on my Mandrake v7.0 box and it works like a charm.. Real nice program.. there's a few things aesthetically that I don't like, but it works REAL well and that's more valuable to me.. :) bosco(). Sujeevan wrote: I have MDK 7.02 installed and I use Licq to talk to friends. when ever I receive a message that's long, I get funny characters, i have to see the history to read the message. This also happens when I type. I have to use enter to make the line smaller so that i won't get those funny characters. Thanx in advance!!! Sujeevan R Toronto, ON
[newbie] messangers for linux and games
anyone know if there is a working messanger out for linux thats supports yahoo and msn i tried everybuddy but it keeps saying my contacts are offline when they are online and where's the best place to get games in rpm format --To The Future Of Linux Let's Crush MicroSoft Together And Take Back Our Desktops
Re: [newbie] kxicq
Well I'm not sure about that ICQLib part.. Because I didn't install them and installed the Kxicq RPM for Redhat 6.1 off of www.kxicq.org and it ran fine.. But on the same note, Mandrake had already installed Licq so maybe they were already on here.. But either way Kxicq gets my nod.. bosco(). jero wrote: The latest version would be located at linux.tucows.com . Also...you would need to get ICQLib (ICQ Libraries) to run KXIcq properly (i'm using it myself). Hope this helps! Jero Doney wrote: root wrote: can anyone tell me where to get the latest version of kxicq and some hints on installing it i have version 0.3.1 but when i run ./configure it says there are files missing and configure error installation or configuration problem c compiler cannot creat e executables and when it checks to see wether the c compiler (gcc ) works iget ...no try freshmeat.net gnomeicu works o.k. in 6.1 licq goes o.k. in MDK 7.0 - have a look on your CD.. -WBD
[newbie] OT - Programming, Getting Started
Greeings all, I know this is slightly off topic, but this is my primary mail list so I was hoping someone could spare a few links.. I'm fairly competent in C/C++ and would like to get started in Linux Programming.. The only real problem is I'm not use to anything Linux.. Configure and Makefiles throw me for a loop.. and pretty much everything involved.. Any good Getting Started sites out there.. I'm looking around and haven't found any for programming.. Plenty of Linux Newbie sites.. :) thanks, bosco().
[newbie] Need help getting network up.
For whatever reason, I cant get dhcp working... in fact, I cant seem to get the network up at all. I've tried to config it using linuxconf tool but no luck. When you use dhcp (Road Runner cable modem service), what information do you 'need' to supply when configuring with the tool? Any tips appreciated! Pete
Re: [newbie] Free ISP for Linux
I checked this out...I am currently using Winblows '95 and AOL to dial up...When I went there it asked me what type of OP, and didn't have anything listed for Mandrake...Will downloading this software work under Linux? -Chris In a message dated 03/16/2000 4:21:42 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.freewwweb.com --- KM Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there gang: Does anyone know of a free ISP for Linux? I have a friend who wants to connect but it on disability and can't afford an ISP.
[newbie] Drake Config
I just upgrade the server at work. All went well, but after install I went to the KDE and there was no linux config and drake config was there but it wouldn't come up. Any clues ?
Re: [newbie] check this site out
Might tick off those of us without a broadband connection... Please don't post binaries. If you want to share a file, post it on the web. Tony wrote: Might amuse those who have not heard it yet! "Weave a circle round him thrice, And close your eyes with holy dread, For he on honeydew hath fed, And drunk the milk of paradise." (The linux user) - Original Message - From: "Jeremy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Mandrake Newbie List" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 12:42 AM Subject: [newbie] check this site out www.kmfms.com Microsoft bashing, linux, all to a KMFDM-ish (a cool band) theme. Gotta love that graphic! I know this isn't really Mandrake related, but I'm willing to bet some of you will like. Ok, to keep this on topic, I'm thinking about adding a graphic to my LILO prompt. Mandrake 7.0 boot disk does it. Is it possible for me to do this as well? I'm going to be playing around with this, if anyone has some hints please post. If I figure it out I will post how here. Or, better yet, is it possible to make my console login prompt a graphic? (no, not PC ASCII characters) I'm thinking the above graphic would be cool until I get sick of it. ~Jeremy Name: win95sux.mp3 win95sux.mp3Type: Winamp media file (audio/mpeg) Encoding: base64
[newbie]
Can anyone shed some light on this error?? I was trying to compile from a fresh install of 7.02 using Expert/Normal checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [newbie] Large Disk (14G) on a P166
"Oliver L. Plaine Jr." wrote: On Fri, 17 Mar 2000 23:09:43 -0600, you wrote: ujeevan wrote: HELP ME PLEASE !!! my friend has a 14g HD (FUJITSU) and he is trying to install Mandrake 7 on his computer. we tried to boot the computer with 14G, but the computer just hung. The HD has option to use only 2GB so that the old computer can use the drive, but i want to set it up so that he could use whole 14G. Please help me... Thanks in advance!!! Sujeevan R Toronto, Ontario Canada. [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Sat, 18 Mar 2000 04:30:54 I assume you are using W95a on a first generation Pentium here( as you gave very little info) if this is true you can use your drive... I just went through this with a 13 Gig WD new hard drive...the only thing that is limited to 2gig is the fat 16 file system that W95a must use.I did not want to update to a newer ms windows system, or use that overlay program that always makes trouble and I did not want to upgrade flash my Bios in this old p-166 I installed windows 95a as usual and partitioned the rest of the drive for Linuxit works really well as linux does not use bios calls to access the disc like w95a does. the only thing you must do is to put your boot partition below the 1024 cylinder limit so LILO can boot the kernelif you use one 2gig fat 16 partition for windows and start your linux from there you will have no problem with that my W95 works just as it did on my old two gig drive, but now I have a full MDK 6.1 helios system with more room than I will ever need... dual booting with LILO in the MBR...It works great and I have the whole 13gigs with no problem. if you need the gritty details, post back and I will be happy to help you. Olly P Biloxi Mississippi If that works for you, you got it easy. I swear though, that I couldn't do that when I tried it years back. I know I had to use OnTrack on my old overdriven P60 and old 486. I've had western digital and seagate drives that came with versions of ontrack that were limited to only work with that particular drive. Here's what I remember from using OnTrack: First I had to start it in manual mode and some sort of bios mode, with command line arguments, and ignore all the warning messages it gives you. And I had to partition the drive through OnTrack, which does let you specify the filesystem types albeit in decimal. I got the listing from linux fdisk and used my calculator to convert them from hexidecimal. This included ALL linux partitions, down to the swap. I think I found that the best way to set up partitions was to put OnTrack in the MBR, a small DOS partition first, then the linux boot partition, and the rest of linux in an extended partitions. I installed LILO to boot out of that small linux boot partition and not the MBR. I told OnTrack to boot the linux boot partition after it did its thing. Then, you can use LILO to either boot linux or that DOS partition. Install ontrack in the small dos partition. I remember that took me a little trial and error because the docs not only didn't cover any of this but I think it even specifically said it wouldn't work for other oses, listing unix as one. And I know I tried just installing linux right off the bat without luck. I think this was around RedHat 5 timeframe, and I took an 800mb drive from the P60 and put it in the 486 when I got a 6gig to put in the P60. It's possible though that they were both subject to the 500mb limitation and not the 2GB one. I know the 486 is, and I can't remember if I had to install ontrack for my dad when he first got the 800mb drive for his P60...which all got passed down to me when it was obsolete ;) I just stole the 6gig and put it in my PII as /dev/hdb last weekend. ~Jeremy
Re: [newbie] Recommend Serial Mouse instead of PS/2
Dear Alan: Thanks so very much for the comment. Yes, that IRQ 12 was conflicting with other PnP IRQ's. It was driving the mouse and me nuts. Thanks so much. Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net
[newbie] Re: Mouse woes FIXED
I've found my problem, I'm using a serial mouse rather than a PS/2.. had my settings wrong. Thanks for the help. james
[newbie] Gross email bad manners
I wonder what gives a person such an inflated view of their own self-importance that they feel they have the right to add a 2mb attachment to a group email. At about 4kb/s download speed that is at least 9 minutes of time for an attachment that most of us won't open. The person knows who they are and I would ask that the majordomo suspends them from the list. John the Nadger http://mklinux.cjb.net http://www.nadger.uklinux.net
Re: [newbie] good graphics software in linux?
gtksee seems to work fine. Il ven, 17 mar 2000, hai scritto: hi all is there any good/fast graphics viewers in mandrake like window's acdsee?
Fwd: Re: [newbie] good graphics software in linux?
-- Messaggio Inoltrato -- Subject: Re: [newbie] good graphics software in linux? Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 21:23:05 +0100 From: Emanuele La Rosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] gtksee seems to work fine. Il ven, 17 mar 2000, hai scritto: hi all is there any good/fast graphics viewers in mandrake like window's acdsee? ---
[newbie] FW: FTP
-Original Message- From: Ernie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2000 6:23 AM To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'"@mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com Subject: FTP Hello, I am trying to set Up the ultimate bulletin board system on my machine, and when I create the folder and unzip the files, they don't show up when I brows them in kde, but I can see them at the command prompt with ls and dir. why is this, and also, when I ftp in, it won't let me upload and overwrite the files that I had to modify?? why. I did chmod from the command line and all the permissions are 777 or 755. I really don't know what's going on. and I can't open my browser and type in the ip address and view the pages (http://125.125.125.1/ubb/cp.html) for example on my local network. Please help if anyone has any ideas. Ernie
Re: [newbie] Mouse ok in console, but..
James, try reconfiguring Xwindows and change the baud rate of the mouse to 1200, that worked for me GG James wrote: Ok, now I have my mouse working just fine when I am in the console (just before issuing startX), but when I start Xwindows, my mouse cursor starts in the center of the gray window, but as soon as the background and icons appear, my cursor jumps off to the edge of the screen and moves up when I scroll down, and down when I scroll up, and opens and closes windows without me clicking. It's posessed. I'm running Mandrake 6.1. What is the reason for this, and is there a fix? It's strange that it behaves fine in the console window but freaks in Xwindows. Thanks. james
[newbie] isdn
Where can I get information to get a asuscom isdn card to work? __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] isdn
On Sun, 19 Mar 2000 05:41:43 -0800 (PST), you wrote: Where can I get information to get a asuscom isdn card to work? Support for internal ISDN cards in linux is extremely limited. Unless its on the list of supported cards you arent prob going to be able to get it working.If using ISDN prob better off getting an external. __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] DSL problems
Do you have the addresses for your name servers on your isp? The easiest way to enter them is to go into linuxconf, network, client, dns and put in what they give you.
Re: [newbie] Free ISP for Linux
Nope, you don't have to use any program. Just go to this page: https://reg.freewwweb.com/cgi-bin/signup.cgi and then just fill out the info it asks for. And now you're signed up! And thanks for the link to it, for while I already have cable, I used it to connect my Dreamcast to the internet. I checked this out...I am currently using Winblows '95 and AOL to dial up...When I went there it asked me what type of OP, and didn't have anything listed for Mandrake...Will downloading this software work under Linux? -Chris In a message dated 03/16/2000 4:21:42 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.freewwweb.com --- KM Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there gang: Does anyone know of a free ISP for Linux? I have a friend who wants to connect but it on disability and can't afford an ISP. -- Anthony Huereca http://m3000.1wh.com Press any key to continue and any other key to quit
[newbie] Mandrake Download
Hi,I'm trying to download MDK 7.0, but all the sites appear to have single filedownload. It wasn't like that yesterday. I hope this doesn't mean I have todownload each file one at a time. Any ideas?ThanksRWB
Re: [newbie] check this site out
Your comment is certainly one I listen too carefully particularly since it is polite and not offensive in its approach, those who are offensive are like barking dogs unworthy of attention, in the words of one reply - You Know Who You Are. Just for information why isn't it possible to simply decline to open large attachments (not that I make a habit of sending them) , I open very few attachments of any kind on security principle unless I know where they come from. The only reason for posting this attachment was to provide some amusement. For the benefit of those who could (would) not open it the file is an mp3 skit on the original Stones music for the 95 release with appropriate updated words! (named win95sux) Placing on the web, I wouldn't know where and have forgotten how I obtained it in the first place except I think it was one of the anti-microsoft sites. Of course I am utterly spoilt using a 2mb bandwidth and can well remember the frustrations of slow downloads however in this kind of scenario there is, like sex violence on TV, an easy solution, its called the off switch or in computerese the mouse click - lo and behold the problem is gone. Please feel free to enlighten me further if there is some aspect of this I have misunderstood since my one object was to lighten up peoples lives a little ( not stir up the hornets nest--- well one hornet anyway,again that's not directed at you of course) "Weave a circle round him thrice, And close your eyes with holy dread, For he on honeydew hath fed, And drunk the milk of paradise." (The linux user) - Original Message - From: "Jon Hunter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 11:02 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] check this site out Might tick off those of us without a broadband connection... Please don't post binaries. If you want to share a file, post it on the web. Tony wrote: Might amuse those who have not heard it yet! "Weave a circle round him thrice, And close your eyes with holy dread, For he on honeydew hath fed, And drunk the milk of paradise." (The linux user) - Original Message - From: "Jeremy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Mandrake Newbie List" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 12:42 AM Subject: [newbie] check this site out www.kmfms.com Microsoft bashing, linux, all to a KMFDM-ish (a cool band) theme. Gotta love that graphic! I know this isn't really Mandrake related, but I'm willing to bet some of you will like. Ok, to keep this on topic, I'm thinking about adding a graphic to my LILO prompt. Mandrake 7.0 boot disk does it. Is it possible for me to do this as well? I'm going to be playing around with this, if anyone has some hints please post. If I figure it out I will post how here. Or, better yet, is it possible to make my console login prompt a graphic? (no, not PC ASCII characters) I'm thinking the above graphic would be cool until I get sick of it. ~Jeremy Name: win95sux.mp3 win95sux.mp3Type: Winamp media file (audio/mpeg) Encoding: base64
Re: [newbie] Need Russian TV URL, please!
Benjamin Sher wrote: Dear friends: Thanks to all the wonderful advice cocerning LInux and Vmware, I was able to set up a Win3.1 virtual machine in Vmware and install Windows Media Player 3.0. As I sadly explained yesterday, TV 6 of Moscow has chosen to broadcast their LIVE domestic Russian broadcasts on WMP instead of our beloved RealPlayer. Well, it is a big event for us Russian scholars, students, faculty and translators. Configuring my modem as /dev/ttyS1, I was able to immediately connect to the Internet via Netscape 3.04 on Win3.1/Vmware. WMP 3.0 is dated July, 1999 and is meant to carry audio AND video streaming for asf and asx files. My problem is being able to get the URL in question. For instance, I can usually first connect to a radio or video station on RealPlayer and look at the status bar and find the URl address (pnm://... ram) or whatever. That way, if I know the URL, I can always type it in the Open Location box and connect that way. For instance, to listen to Radio Free Europe Live in Russian (24 hours a day), all you need to know is their URL, which you can get by going to their home page and then clicking on Live Broadcast. Their URL is: http://www.svoboda.org/realaudio/ru_live.ram. There must be such an address for TV 6 Moscow ending with asf (or asx). TV 6 Moscow's home page is: http://www.tv6.ru/ May I ask one of your kind folks who have dual Linux/Windows boot and please, if you could, try to write down the URL for TV 6 of Moscow. Turn to their second page and you'll find "Live Broadcasting" at the top right of this page. Click on the TV6 icon and you should be able to connect to them with WMP on Win98. One very important question: what connection options do they offer: 28k, 56k, ISDN, broadband? Please let me know. This will give you the live broadcast URL. That's all I need. If WMP 3.0 for Win3.1 can connect, I will be delighted as can be and eternally grateful to you. If this experiment fails, I may have no choice but to consider Win98 on VMware for Linux. I don't like the idea one bit. That's why I am making this desperate attempt to do it on Win3.1. Thanks so very much, folks. Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net I can't get it to give me anything I think is useful, but I got: http://www.tv6.ru/RUSSIAN/WINDOWS/tv6.ram Inside that file is: rtsp://www.tv6.ru/encoder/tv6.rm (I got this from the english side when I clicked live broadcast) In Russian (can't read it, so just clicked things): http://www.tv6.ru/TV6-Moscow(live).htm This tried to run real player, but couldn't connect to anything and didn't give me options to click on anything to pick a channel or url. Maybe you can find a friend locally that will let you go to the site to play around until you get the information you need?
Re: [newbie] net problem
stathis gotsis wrote: i have mandrake 7.0.when i connect to the internet through kppp,then netscape can find no host,the same happens with other applications ,such as mail clients.what could be possibly wrong.i would appreciate any help. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com You need to enter the DNS addresses in kppp for your isp. The addresses cannot be resolved without them.
Re: [newbie] It's getting really frustrating (was 'error not enough space in partition /')
kiriakos wrote: Well thank you all guys, but 7.0-2 didn't do it for me. I did as Alan suggested , that is I made a floppy from a cdrom.img of 7.0-2 version and I still got the error message that I need 1180 megs and the / filesystem is not sufficient. I managed to install the packages by reducing the package size slider to like 1001 Megabytes, thinking I could add more later if I needed to, and it seemed to work. Ok, packages installed and everything, installation says succesfully completed. When the system reboots, I CAN'T LOGIN as root!!!. But I CAN login as a regular user. I'm 100% sure I'm typing the root password right. is the root user named anything else than 'root' maybe? If it means anything, I've set the security level to paranoid, upon installation. Do I have to type something extra? And what about LILO, it asked for a password too, which I provided, and upon boot it just works without asking a pass or anything. Could these two passwords (root and LILO) be related in some way? Another problem I'm having is that I set the console to 80x60 characters, and it still shows 80x25 or something, with the added problem that when the prompt reaches the bottom of the screen I cannot see what I type, and in fact I have to press Enter 2-3 times and then what I typed shows up finally. I'm thinking I'm not smart enough for Linux and maybe I should drop it. I'm sorry for asking all those questions, but I have no manuals at hand to look into for more info. If someone could point out a complete comprehensive Linux manual/resource/tutorial online, I would appreciate it. I will try looking at the Mandrake web site for more info too. GG You can't log in as root with that security setting. Log in as a user, then enter: su - root and log in as root. Then go into kde (if it will let you) and set your security level down until you get going. There should be something in the config screens to set your console screen size to what you want. You can also try to use Leftshift+pageup/down to scroll on the console screen.
Re: [[newbie] Mouse ok in console, but..]
Probably an incorrect mouse driver. Open a console, and type "setup" -- without quotes, choose the Mouse Config option, and try a different driver within your manufacturers options ie: Logitech mouse - Logitech driver/generic driver, make sure you choose the correct interface also. Once your driver is correct your problems are fixed. HTH Jaguar James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, now I have my mouse working just fine when I am in the console (just before issuing startX), but when I start Xwindows, my mouse cursor starts in the center of the gray window, but as soon as the background and icons appear, my cursor jumps off to the edge of the screen and moves up when I scroll down, and down when I scroll up, and opens and closes windows without me clicking. It's posessed. I'm running Mandrake 6.1. What is the reason for this, and is there a fix? It's strange that it behaves fine in the console window but freaks in Xwindows. Thanks. james Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [newbie] Gnutella
:~Hi Folks! :~ :~Did anybody get or know where I can download the :~Gnutella sources and/or binaries? Njam, njam! Free nutella clone I always wanted to have THAT one. Newt think you know it will be "gMozzart-Kugel" and "gSacher-Torte". I can't wait! :-) -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
Re: [newbie] Need help getting network up. -Follow up
Ahh... it seems that for what ever reason... my 3com 3C900 Combo is not detected. (not listed in dmesg).. that would explain it. Any way I can 'force' detection of it? Anyone??? The thing works in RH, why not in Mandrake?? Any and all help appreciated! Pete - Original Message - From: "Peter H. Hackett" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 6:10 PM Subject: [newbie] Need help getting network up. For whatever reason, I cant get dhcp working... in fact, I cant seem to get the network up at all. I've tried to config it using linuxconf tool but no luck. When you use dhcp (Road Runner cable modem service), what information do you 'need' to supply when configuring with the tool? Any tips appreciated! Pete
Re: [newbie] It's getting really frustrating (was 'error not enough space in partition /')
On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, kiriakos wrote: :~Well thank you all guys, but 7.0-2 didn't do it for me. I did as Alan :~suggested , that is I made a floppy from a cdrom.img of 7.0-2 version :~and I still got the error message that I need 1180 megs and the / :~filesystem is not sufficient. I managed to install the packages by :~reducing the package size slider to like 1001 Megabytes, thinking I :~could add more later if I needed to, and it seemed to work. no problem anymore, I see. :~ :~Ok, packages installed and everything, installation says succesfully :~completed. When the system reboots, I CAN'T LOGIN as root!!!. But I CAN :~login as a regular user. Good. This is a security measure - if you do not like it, change the security level. Or first log-in as user, then "su" to root. :~If it means anything, I've set the security level to paranoid, upon :~installation. Do I have to type something extra? And what about LILO, it :~asked for a password too, which I provided, and upon boot it just works :~without asking a pass or anything. Could these two passwords (root and :~LILO) be related in some way? Paranoid+newbie == a lot of trouble. :~I'm thinking I'm not smart enough for Linux and maybe I should drop it. :~I'm sorry for asking all those questions, but I have no manuals at hand :~to look into for more info. If someone could point out a complete :~comprehensive Linux manual/resource/tutorial online, I would appreciate :~it. I will try looking at the Mandrake web site for more info too. Aha, schurke!! You did not BUY our beautifull package with nice books, stickers and all that jazz, as well as the install suppoert. ccc. Instead, you just just burned the ISO image, did not bother reading the online documentation and go around telling people 7.0 is no-good. ccc. Naughty naughty boy you are... ;- cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
Re: [newbie] Free ISP for Linux
So this will be ok for dial-up? I'm oldskool, and I live in the older part of the city where they don't have DSL... -Chris In a message dated 03/19/2000 8:26:15 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nope, you don't have to use any program. Just go to this page: https://reg.freewwweb.com/cgi-bin/signup.cgi and then just fill out the info it asks for. And now you're signed up! And thanks for the link to it, for while I already have cable, I used it to connect my Dreamcast to the internet. I checked this out...I am currently using Winblows '95 and AOL to dial up...When I went there it asked me what type of OP, and didn't have anything listed for Mandrake...Will downloading this software work under Linux? -Chris In a message dated 03/16/2000 4:21:42 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.freewwweb.com --- KM Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there gang: Does anyone know of a free ISP for Linux? I have a friend who wants to connect but it on disability and can't afford an ISP.
[newbie] ANNOUNCEMENT: change in mailing lists policy
Yet Another change in mailing lists policy There have been several annoyingly long e-mails on newbie list lately, so I have decided to limit the size of the messages which are accepted to the lists. As of now, e-mails longer than 100kb are not accepted to this mailing list anymore. If you want to share something huge with other people, put it on your web-page or on some ftp server. I hope this is what majority of the people on this list wanted to have. I also hope 100kb is a good size. Please contact me imediately if you encounter any problems, or have suggestions concerning the mailing-list policy. Yours Denis Havlik -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
Re: [newbie] Drake Config
First, you can access 'linuxconf' by typing 'linuxconf' on any terminal window (xterm, eterm, etc.) Second, I'm not sure why you can't access Drakconf through KDE except that you should make sure you're logged in as 'root'. Hope that helps - Original Message - From: "jeff" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2000 10:34 AM Subject: [newbie] Drake Config I just upgrade the server at work. All went well, but after install I went to the KDE and there was no linux config and drake config was there but it wouldn't come up. Any clues ?
[newbie] Problem with permissions!!!
Hello all, I started using RedHat about a year ago, then tried SuSE and now I'm onto Mandrake. My problem is with /dev/modem permissions when trying to access minicom. Under SuSE, I had no problem using minicom as a user (not 'root'). But with both RedHat now Mandrake, I get 'permission denied /dev/modem' when I try to start minicom as a user (although I can use it just fine as 'root'). Is this a security feature under these distribs? And does anybody know how to get around this? I should add, I've already tried chmod 755 /dev/modem and that doesn't seem to do it. Thanks! Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] where can I find
I need a program/package that will store all my usernames/passwords for myself...and only allow myself to access it...anyone know of a good one? -- ===KompuKit=== Kit Goins ICQ# 7110071 [EMAIL PROTECTED]Lowell, Mass. Web Designer http://kitdesigns.bizhosting.com WebServer:http://kompukit.dyndns.org (Server Runs between M-F 6pm-12am,S+S 12pm-12am EST) ===KompuKit===
Re: [newbie] It's getting really frustrating (was 'error not enoughspace in partition /')
GGlose the paranoid security, become normal. Alan kiriakos wrote: Well thank you all guys, but 7.0-2 didn't do it for me. I did as Alan suggested , that is I made a floppy from a cdrom.img of 7.0-2 version and I still got the error message that I need 1180 megs and the / filesystem is not sufficient. I managed to install the packages by reducing the package size slider to like 1001 Megabytes, thinking I could add more later if I needed to, and it seemed to work. Ok, packages installed and everything, installation says succesfully completed. When the system reboots, I CAN'T LOGIN as root!!!. But I CAN login as a regular user. I'm 100% sure I'm typing the root password right. is the root user named anything else than 'root' maybe? If it means anything, I've set the security level to paranoid, upon installation. Do I have to type something extra? And what about LILO, it asked for a password too, which I provided, and upon boot it just works without asking a pass or anything. Could these two passwords (root and LILO) be related in some way? Another problem I'm having is that I set the console to 80x60 characters, and it still shows 80x25 or something, with the added problem that when the prompt reaches the bottom of the screen I cannot see what I type, and in fact I have to press Enter 2-3 times and then what I typed shows up finally. I'm thinking I'm not smart enough for Linux and maybe I should drop it. I'm sorry for asking all those questions, but I have no manuals at hand to look into for more info. If someone could point out a complete comprehensive Linux manual/resource/tutorial online, I would appreciate it. I will try looking at the Mandrake web site for more info too. GG Tony wrote: Nothing in this world is certain except death taxes so they say, I never used 7.0 but it was quickly updated because of problems (no personal experience) If you have cdr then burn a copy of 7.0-2 iso which can be found via Mandrake site-- lots of ftp sites/mirrors carry it, use a utility like Cuteftp or Getright that supports resuming, the image is approx 650+ , if you download to hard drive then use Rawrite to make hd bootdisk, turn off Pnp in Bios and go from there, if you burn a cd then turn off Pnp in Bios and reset boot option to Cd first and go from there, hope this is not too detailed and superfluous. "Weave a circle round him thrice, And close your eyes with holy dread, For he on honeydew hath fed, And drunk the milk of paradise." (The linux user)
[newbie] Free ISP for Linux -- NOT SO! Not for Linux!
Dear Anthony: Out of curiosity, I just went to the https://reg.freewwweb.com/cgi-bin/signup.cgi site you mentioned. Here is their home page: FreeWWWeb: http://www.freewwweb.com/pricing/pricmain.html http://www.freewwweb.com/register/ordmain.html You'll find on the above page specific information about the OS's supported. They include only Windows and Mac. Someday we'll have our own free ISP, but not yet. Yours, Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net
Re: [newbie] ANNOUNCEMENT: change in mailing lists policy
Bet this will curtail some of the html stuff too - that tends to be big. Ty C. Mixon F.T.C. Enterprises [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 26147713
Re: [newbie] check this site out
On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, you wrote: Of course I am utterly spoilt using a 2mb bandwidth and can well remember the frustrations of slow downloads however in this kind of scenario there is, like sex violence on TV, an easy solution, its called the off switch or in computerese the mouse click - lo and behold the problem is gone. Please feel free to enlighten me further if there is some aspect of this I have misunderstood since my one object was to lighten up peoples lives a little ( not stir up the hornets nest--- well one hornet anyway,again that's not directed at you of course) I'm not against humour on the Internet, as my own web sites will prove. Equally I'm not against a joke in email form. I am against large, unwanted, attachments to email. Unfortunately, to the best of my knowledge, it it not possible to tell what you are downloading as an attachment - I use kmail. A great many of us do have to pay for our connection on a time basis - I'm fortunate that I have a freephone connection in the evenings and at the weekend so it didn't cost me any extra money to download and dump this attachment. The argument about the on/off switch is not valid as your email was on my ISP server and I spent over 9 minutes wondering who had sent me this large file. Please consider people who are less fortunate than you are - I seem to recall that you have a radio connection to your maritime location, -- Regards John the Nadger http://mklinux.cjb.net http://www.nadger.uklinux.net
Re: [newbie] Gross email bad manners
Johndon't overreact, everyone deserves a second chance and I'm sure there was no malicious intent. Alan bluebottle wrote: I wonder what gives a person such an inflated view of their own self-importance that they feel they have the right to add a 2mb attachment to a group email. At about 4kb/s download speed that is at least 9 minutes of time for an attachment that most of us won't open. The person knows who they are and I would ask that the majordomo suspends them from the list. John the Nadger http://mklinux.cjb.net http://www.nadger.uklinux.net
Re: [newbie] ANNOUNCEMENT: change in mailing lists policy
Denisworks for me :-) Alan Denis Havlik wrote: Yet Another change in mailing lists policy There have been several annoyingly long e-mails on newbie list lately, so I have decided to limit the size of the messages which are accepted to the lists. As of now, e-mails longer than 100kb are not accepted to this mailing list anymore. If you want to share something huge with other people, put it on your web-page or on some ftp server. I hope this is what majority of the people on this list wanted to have. I also hope 100kb is a good size. Please contact me imediately if you encounter any problems, or have suggestions concerning the mailing-list policy. Yours Denis Havlik -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
Re: [newbie] fetchmail
On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, Daryl Fisk wrote: I can get fetchmail to download my mail, but when it comes time for it to turn it over to the system, everything seems to be thrown into the "bit bucket" how do I get fetchmail to do its job? Daryl, have you change the .rc to rw mode? try $ chmod 600 .fetchmailrc i guess this is the problem hth -- Rib Chance is perhaps the work of God when He did not want to sign. -- Anatole France
Re: [newbie] check this site out
On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, you wrote: Just for information why isn't it possible to simply decline to open large attachments (not that I make a habit of sending them) , I open very few attachments of any kind on security principle unless I know where they come from. Opening the attachment is different from downloading it. I have a cron job set to kickoff fetchmail every so often and download all messages in all accounts. Since this email account is only used for a few mailing lists, I did not set a size limit in the .fetchmailrc file. Placing on the web, I wouldn't know where and have forgotten how I obtained it in the first place except I think it was one of the anti-microsoft sites. If I read the above correctly, you did not post it to a web site, since you did not know who to give credit to. If you did not know what restrictions were placed on copying and distribution by the original author/artist/performer, why would you think that email was any different from a website posting? Of course I am utterly spoilt using a 2mb bandwidth and can well remember Some of us live in internet hell no cable modems, no dsl, just a plain old modem over crappy telephone lines, which get a 26400 connection at best. (Although the telco says dsl is coming soon). the frustrations of slow downloads however in this kind of scenario there is, like sex violence on TV, an easy solution, its called the off switch or in computerese the mouse click - lo and behold the problem is gone. Not quite the same. Content is not the same as size. I often choose what to download based upon the size of the file. This was forced upon me. While I could have set my configuration file to block the download, I chose not to, based on the fact that this email address is mostly used for a few mailing lists where folks are usually well behaved. Sometimes size does matter... Please feel free to enlighten me further if there is some aspect of this I have misunderstood since my one object was to lighten up peoples lives a little (not stir up the hornets nest--- well one hornet anyway,again that's not directed at you of course) Don't get me wrong. I enjoyed the clip. I even downloaded an updated mp3 player so my wife could listen to it on her windows machine. I would have just prefered to choose to download it, rather than having it sent to me without warning. -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
Re: [newbie] Gross email bad manners
On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, you wrote: Johndon't overreact, everyone deserves a second chance and I'm sure there was no malicious intent. Alan I'll accept your point Alan - perhaps the penalty I requested was rather harsh and the perpetrator is not usually guilty of such faux pas. I feel that Denis's email closes the subject. -- Regards John the Nadger http://mklinux.cjb.net http://www.nadger.uklinux.net
[newbie] Dual Booting
OK... I just installed a new hard drive in my machine. Now Linux gets it's own drive! :-) Anyway, I have Windoze on the Primary master (/dev/hda). Linux is on the secondary master (/dev/hdc). The problem is, I installed LILO in the master boot record on /dev/hda. It will boot Linux but not Windoze. Unfortunately, I'm not at my home machine so I can't include a copy of lilo.conf. When it tried to load Windoze, it displays the message, "Loading Windows" and then just sits there. Anyone have any ideas off the top of their head?? -- Rick Friedman Salant Corp. - MIS 800-472-8013 x75105 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "The closest thing to heaven on earth is Yankee Stadium."
Re: [newbie] Gross email bad manners
U must be a moron to send an attachment to a list!! Im stuck out here on a 28.8 and it took forever to download. But dont suspend the guy. Just uhh, dont do it no more :-) At 06:27 PM 3/19/00 +, you wrote: On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, you wrote: Johndon't overreact, everyone deserves a second chance and I'm sure there was no malicious intent. Alan I'll accept your point Alan - perhaps the penalty I requested was rather harsh and the perpetrator is not usually guilty of such faux pas. I feel that Denis's email closes the subject. -- Regards John the Nadger http://mklinux.cjb.net http://www.nadger.uklinux.net
Re: [newbie] FW: FTP
Ernie wrote: -Original Message- From: Ernie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2000 6:23 AM To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'"@mandrakesoft.mandrakesoft.com Subject: FTP Hello, I am trying to set Up the ultimate bulletin board system on my machine, and when I create the folder and unzip the files, they don't show up when I brows them in kde, but I can see them at the command prompt with ls and dir. why is this, and also, when I ftp in, it won't let me upload and I bet you didn't hit the refresh/reload button. overwrite the files that I had to modify?? why. I did chmod from the command line and all the permissions are 777 or 755. I really don't know what's going on. and I can't open my browser and type in the ip address and view the pages (http://125.125.125.1/ubb/cp.html) for example on my local network. Please help if anyone has any ideas. Ernie
Re: [newbie] DSL problems
Thanks that fixed it it is the little things we forget - Original Message - From: "Audrey Beck" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Linux-list@" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 3:40 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] DSL problems Do you have the addresses for your name servers on your isp? The easiest way to enter them is to go into linuxconf, network, client, dns and put in what they give you.
[newbie] Comments on Graphical Installation
A few days ago I got a copy of the MacMillan version of Mandrake 7.0. I have a couple of things to say about the new graphical installation. First, generally, I'm not impressed. I actually found the old installation method easier to use. The installation of packages seems to be a crapshoot. I did 3 different installs because each time packages were left out. Each time, the packages left out were different! Each installation was the same: customized, development. One time, gcc was completely left out! Another, kdevelop was omitted. Why would this be happening?? Second, at no time during the installation was I able to get X configured properly. Each time, I had to quit the configuration of X. It would try to test it and then hang. I would have to CTRL-ALT-BKSPCE to get out of it and complete the installation. Once the installation was completed, I would then use XF86Setup to configure X. XF86Setup worked like a champ. It was, and still is, my favorite method for configuring X. Third (not really part of the graphical installation but what the heck), I tried using Lothar to configure sound but it showed a message saying something like the PnP device is not identified. But then it said something like the PnP device identifier is CS4235. Anyway, I used sndconfig to configure it properly. Once again the older method succeeded where the new one didn't. Anyway, that's my .02. -- Rick Friedman Salant Corp. - MIS 800-472-8013 x75105 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "The closest thing to heaven on earth is Yankee Stadium."
Re: [newbie] Free ISP for Linux -- NOT SO! Not for Linux!
Benjamin Sher wrote: Dear Anthony: Out of curiosity, I just went to the https://reg.freewwweb.com/cgi-bin/signup.cgi site you mentioned. Here is their home page: FreeWWWeb: http://www.freewwweb.com/pricing/pricmain.html http://www.freewwweb.com/register/ordmain.html You'll find on the above page specific information about the OS's supported. They include only Windows and Mac. Someday we'll have our own free ISP, but not yet. Yours, Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net But did you actually read the setup details and/or try it yourself? I read through them, and although I haven't tried it firsthand, I can't see a reason why this wouldn't work for other OSes. You can derive the information you need out of the stup information for windoze. The ones that you definately can't use (and probably wouldn't want to use anyways) are those that require a special browser to constantly view their spam^H^H^H^Hadvertisements. I shouldn't say definately, because I've heard that sometimes people do get them working, or can have a 2nd windoze box or vmware session and then share that connection with linux (Id rather pay than do that) ~Jeremy
Re: [newbie] Gross email bad manners
bluebottle wrote: I wonder what gives a person such an inflated view of their own self-importance that they feel they have the right to add a 2mb attachment to a group email. At about 4kb/s download speed that is at least 9 minutes of time for an attachment that most of us won't open. The person knows who they are and I would ask that the majordomo suspends them from the list. That's excessive, but that wasn't cool. Maybe one of those initial messages from majordomo that you get when you sign on should cover some basic rulez such as: 1) no binary attachments unless there's a damn good reason (hint, hint: a 2mb mp3 isn't) 2) list that message length limit now in effect (100k) 3) turn off your !#@$# request for receipts that's annoying 4) try not to post in html not everyone's mailreaders support it Messages from this group didn't reach me from yesterday afternoon to this afternoon, I don't know why because expert messages did. I think maybe it has to do with that 2mb attachment. Anyone else with me on these? Some of us think know this is common curtosy, but obviously not everyone knows this. ~Jeremy
Re: [newbie] Need help getting network up. -Follow up
I've got the same problem... the only drivers I can find for the 3c905 do not work with the 2.2.14 kernel!! Help!! "Peter H. Hackett" wrote: Ahh... it seems that for what ever reason... my 3com 3C900 Combo is not detected. (not listed in dmesg).. that would explain it. Any way I can 'force' detection of it? Anyone??? The thing works in RH, why not in Mandrake?? Any and all help appreciated! Pete - Original Message - From: "Peter H. Hackett" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 6:10 PM Subject: [newbie] Need help getting network up. For whatever reason, I cant get dhcp working... in fact, I cant seem to get the network up at all. I've tried to config it using linuxconf tool but no luck. When you use dhcp (Road Runner cable modem service), what information do you 'need' to supply when configuring with the tool? Any tips appreciated! Pete
Re: [newbie] Recommend Serial Mouse instead of PS/2
Difficult to say without sitting in front of your machine but a lot of bios will allow you to remove an IRQ from the pool. Maybe you can set IRQ 12 = ISA not pnp/pci Benjamin Sher wrote: Dear Alan: Thanks so very much for the comment. Yes, that IRQ 12 was conflicting with other PnP IRQ's. It was driving the mouse and me nuts. Thanks so much. Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net
Re: [newbie] Large Disk (14G) on a P166
On Sat, 18 Mar 2000 16:22:06 -0600, Jeremy wrote: If that works for you, you got it easy. -- Sun, 19 Mar 2000 12:54:40 Well Jeremy, it wasn't that easy grin, but it is working really fine.. I did not intend to put any money into this old P-166..it has the antique BIOS dated DEC 1995...I was warned off of the overlay programs by good people on the Packard Bell newsgroup.. I did not want to put a bullet in the brain of this old computer with a BIOS flash gone bad When I installed the 13gig WD it showed as a 2Gig. I just installed W95a with the PB recovery floppy that fdisk two gig fat 16...as far as the bios was concerned that was a full load... Then I installed MDK Helios 6.1 using the expert mode which lets you partition manually with Linux Fdisk.no disc dude or any of that automatic stuff...I just put hda2 as an extended partition all the way to the end of the 13 Gigs and started the logicals with boot first and sectioned them on out, made my swap and native and loaded the mandrake. I did scotch my partition table with a dumb move I will not expound upon g..as I was trying to partition Linux .and I was locked out of a brand new unbootable disc, with a 95a system that I had just put many hours intofortunately I had been looking around with FIPS 2.0 prior to that and had made a backup file on the FIPS floppy...I did not use it for any thing else...so I ran the FIPS recovery file and it reconstituted my W95 table and luckily nothing was harmedthe second attempt at loading the mandrake went like a charm...and I have unbelievable room..smile. Olly P Biloxi Mississippi.
[newbie] Wrong charset
Sun, 19 Mar 2000 13:35:27 After logging out of KDE on my Mandrake 6.1 Helios 2-2-13-7 MDK, I see several lines of "wrong charset installed"but the Mandrake does not tell me what charset it is hungry for.. The print seems to look ok to me on all the screens and I have never changed anything except the size?..it has complained this way since installation on Valentines day .. I have tried switching the selections in Kde just now,, but obviously it needs more? Is this something extra I must obtain? or a file lurking on a CD someplace? This system has multitudes of programs in it that I do not have a clue on operating,, or even what they are supposed to do...has anyone found a website where someone has written about all the "gee whizzy" things they have discovered in here? I envy the fast burners like Lane who,(Judging by his posts) in the past couple of weeks has disassembled every program on his computer...while I am sitting here playing.. MaJong.,G. Olly P Biloxi Mississippi
Re: [newbie] Comments on Graphical Installation
RICHARD FRIEDMAN wrote: A few days ago I got a copy of the MacMillan version of Mandrake 7.0. I have a couple of things to say about the new graphical installation. First, generally, I'm not impressed. I actually found the old installation method easier to use. The installation of packages seems to be a crapshoot. I did 3 different installs because each time packages were left out. Each time, the packages left out were different! Each installation was the same: customized, development. One time, gcc was completely left out! Another, kdevelop was omitted. Why would this be happening?? Are you sure you had those packages selected to install? I love the graphical install, and fiound it easier to navigate then the old redhat text install. Selecting packages was easier too, once you get the hang of it. A problem I had at first was pressing the left mouse button on a catagory to shrink/grow and that would select/unselect all non-required packages in the tree underneath. After having to go back through the lists a few times after screwing it up I learned to stop doing that. Second, at no time during the installation was I able to get X configured properly. Each time, I had to quit the configuration of X. It would try to test it and then hang. I would have to CTRL-ALT-BKSPCE to get out of it and complete the installation. Once the installation was completed, I would then use XF86Setup to configure X. XF86Setup worked like a champ. It was, and still is, my favorite method for configuring X. I don't remember an install that did setup x the way I wanted it, so I guess I had lower expectations than you. Funny thing is tha in the install, my exact mouse was listed. In XF86Setup it wasn't. I ended up using xf86config because it is much better at creating a list of resolutions and color depths for your display. Then good 'ol vi lets you tweak everything, including adding the exact mouse driver, ZAxisMapping, and whatever else. Third (not really part of the graphical installation but what the heck), I tried using Lothar to configure sound but it showed a message saying something like the PnP device is not identified. But then it said something like the PnP device identifier is CS4235. Anyway, I used sndconfig to configure it properly. Once again the older method succeeded where the new one didn't. I don't know for sure, but there may be a good reason for the manual stating that you should run sndconfig to setup sound. I didn't even know that drakconf and lothar existed for a few days ;-) I don't know if I'll use lothar again, it brought my X to a near-screeching halt. Quitting, logging out, and restarting was still VERY SLW...I ended up rebooting. However it seemed to give my swap partition a swift kick in the ass by just _looking_ at the settings. It didn't seem to be working previously to that (even when my memory weas near-full) KPM still doesn't report swap usage or swap existance, if anyone has a clue why please let me know. xosview and swapon (-s?) do report it though, Anyway, that's my .02. Here's mine. ~Jeremy
Re: [Re: [newbie] Gross email bad manners]
Where i live u have one choice in phone company's, ive tried EVERY ISP and i still connect at 28.8. Whiner's?? I dont think so! I come to check my mail, and just to see if someone usefull mailed me, i have to wait 15 minutes to download it. I would care less if I was on DSL, but that isnt the case. I think its called common sense. At 07:50 PM 3/19/2000 +, you wrote: On Fri, 25 Apr 2036, you wrote: Wow...a bunch of whiner's!!! (although a 2 MB file is quite large) If your ISP connect is so bad ie: crappy ISP, worse phone lines, or a 28.8 modem...all of these can be fixed fairly easily...the easiest would be to but a $40.00 hardware modem from Cirrus Logic or some other Co., and probably sign with a new ISP...even the phone lines can be upgraded if you complain to your TelCO enuff. Jaguar Unfortunately some of us have no choice as to our telephone company. Things are changing here in the UK but BT still have the lion's share of the market. I run a 56K ISA modem and there's nothing wrong with the telephone lines. It doesn't matter which ISP one uses here - they all give about the same performance. We can install an ISDN line but that's very expensive. I'm therefore stuck with about 4kb/sec download speed which means about 11 minutes to download that actual file. If anyone knows of a way to set kmail to reject large files I'd be grateful. I've already accepted that I was a little harsh but, as the rules have now been changed, it should never (never say never) happen again. As to posting in html - kmail doesn't really like it. -- Regards John the Nadger http://mklinux.cjb.net http://www.nadger.uklinux.net
RE: [newbie] Dual Booting
boot to a dos floppy (win9x startup disk) give command sys c: reboot let me know if it works --Original Message-- From: RICHARD FRIEDMAN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'mandrake' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: March 19, 2000 6:38:45 PM GMT Subject: [newbie] Dual Booting OK... I just installed a new hard drive in my machine. Now Linux gets it's own drive! :-) Anyway, I have Windoze on the Primary master (/dev/hda). Linux is on the secondary master (/dev/hdc). The problem is, I installed LILO in the master boot record on /dev/hda. It will boot Linux but not Windoze. Unfortunately, I'm not at my home machine so I can't include a copy of lilo.conf. When it tried to load Windoze, it displays the message, "Loading Windows" and then just sits there. Anyone have any ideas off the top of their head?? -- Rick Friedman Salant Corp. - MIS 800-472-8013 x75105 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "The closest thing to heaven on earth is Yankee Stadium."
Re: [newbie] Large Disk (14G) on a P166
"Oliver L. Plaine Jr." wrote: On Sat, 18 Mar 2000 16:22:06 -0600, Jeremy wrote: If that works for you, you got it easy. -- Sun, 19 Mar 2000 12:54:40 Well Jeremy, it wasn't that easy grin, but it is working really fine.. I did not intend to put any money into this old P-166..it has the antique BIOS dated DEC 1995...I was warned off of the overlay programs by good people on the Packard Bell newsgroup.. I did not want to put a bullet in the brain of this old computer with a BIOS flash gone bad When I installed the 13gig WD it showed as a 2Gig. I just installed W95a with the PB recovery floppy that fdisk two gig fat 16...as far as the bios was concerned that was a full load... Then I installed MDK Helios 6.1 using the expert mode which lets you partition manually with Linux Fdisk.no disc dude or any of that automatic stuff...I just put hda2 as an extended partition all the way to the end of the 13 Gigs and started the logicals with boot first and sectioned them on out, made my swap and native and loaded the mandrake. I did scotch my partition table with a dumb move I will not expound upon g..as I was trying to partition Linux .and I was locked out of a brand new unbootable disc, with a 95a system that I had just put many hours intofortunately I had been looking around with FIPS 2.0 prior to that and had made a backup file on the FIPS floppy...I did not use it for any thing else...so I ran the FIPS recovery file and it reconstituted my W95 table and luckily nothing was harmedthe second attempt at loading the mandrake went like a charm...and I have unbelievable room..smile. Olly P Biloxi Mississippi. Man, I still swear that I couldn't see the whole drive when I tried that. And I had crossed my fingers that fdisk in linux would see it and work. But I wasn't so lucky. Maybe it has to do with the system, and maybe redhat 5.0 didn't have something that newer madrakes do. Anyone who's trying to upgrade their antique, by all means try this first... BUT if it doesn't work you may need to use OnTrack. There are commercial versions if it didn't come with your drive, and you might even need to find an older version if they've changed things since. My previous tips could save you some time and frustration in that case. Sooo, how long until mandrake ships on a roll of scotch tape? hehehe (see the recent story on slashdot.org, someone got 10gigs capacity on a roll of scotch tape-I shit you not! Now that's a hardware hack) ~Jeremy
[newbie] IOmega Zip Disks
Hi: I just recently purchased a Mandrake 7.0 Red Had, and have successfully installed it on my machines, and mounted all devices except my IOmega zip drives. They are all parrellel port types, and I just can not get them to mount. I have mounted two external CD roms using the parrellel port, and can read them ok, however slowly. But the zip drives just do not seem to work. HELP!!! Herman R. Willett
Re: [Re: [newbie] Gross email bad manners]
On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, you wrote: This is interesting. I connect at 50K without fail, but my neighbor, using the same cable just another pair, only connects at 28.8. Futhormore, my home is wired with 4 pair Cat5 cable from the demark. If I use the other line (bl/wh) that has my house phones on it, I only connect at about 44K. But if I go around the house and unplug all the phones, I get 50K. Hence the dedicated phone line for the computer with nothing except the modem connected to it. Herman Where i live u have one choice in phone company's, ive tried EVERY ISP and i still connect at 28.8. Whiner's?? I dont think so! I come to check my mail, and just to see if someone usefull mailed me, i have to wait 15 minutes to download it. I would care less if I was on DSL, but that isnt the case. I think its called common sense. At 07:50 PM 3/19/2000 +, you wrote: On Fri, 25 Apr 2036, you wrote: Wow...a bunch of whiner's!!! (although a 2 MB file is quite large) If your ISP connect is so bad ie: crappy ISP, worse phone lines, or a 28.8 modem...all of these can be fixed fairly easily...the easiest would be to but a $40.00 hardware modem from Cirrus Logic or some other Co., and probably sign with a new ISP...even the phone lines can be upgraded if you complain to your TelCO enuff. Jaguar Unfortunately some of us have no choice as to our telephone company. Things are changing here in the UK but BT still have the lion's share of the market. I run a 56K ISA modem and there's nothing wrong with the telephone lines. It doesn't matter which ISP one uses here - they all give about the same performance. We can install an ISDN line but that's very expensive. I'm therefore stuck with about 4kb/sec download speed which means about 11 minutes to download that actual file. If anyone knows of a way to set kmail to reject large files I'd be grateful. I've already accepted that I was a little harsh but, as the rules have now been changed, it should never (never say never) happen again. As to posting in html - kmail doesn't really like it. -- Regards John the Nadger http://mklinux.cjb.net http://www.nadger.uklinux.net
Re: [Re: [newbie] Gross email bad manners]
WHINERS!!! Really!! What makes you think that you're an authority on other people's ISP and phone company relations?! Every ISP I've tried can only supply a 26,400-28,800 connection in my area even though I use an excellent 56K external hardware modem. The phone company has explained time after time when I've complained about a poor or slow connection that the switch is over 9 miles away from my neighborhood by wire run distance, and physically there is nothing that can be done to improve transmission. Alan Shoemaker Jaguar wrote: Wow...a bunch of whiner's!!! (although a 2 MB file is quite large) If your ISP connect is so bad ie: crappy ISP, worse phone lines, or a 28.8 modem...all of these can be fixed fairly easily...the easiest would be to but a $40.00 hardware modem from Cirrus Logic or some other Co., and probably sign with a new ISP...even the phone lines can be upgraded if you complain to your TelCO enuff. But some of you even complain about a 1 or 2 K HTML/business card attachment, as a "waste of bandwidth"do some of you have 2400 modems still When I think that excessively (4 lines of text or more) long sig files or advertisments for web pages NOT even your own, or people that add "Ya me too" or some such thing to an already long thread, is in reality a total waste of everyone's time. I don't really care to see 4 or more lines in a sig file as it is usually a banal quote from someone long dead, or even worse...unheard of. Some of the sig's I have seen make NO sense what so ever? Well I am done my ranting...I hope I reached one or two of you...:) my 0.02 worth Jaguar Donny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: U must be a moron to send an attachment to a list!! Im stuck out here on a 28.8 and it took forever to download. But dont suspend the guy. Just uhh, dont do it no more :-) At 06:27 PM 3/19/00 +, you wrote: On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, you wrote: Johndon't overreact, everyone deserves a second chance and I'm sure there was no malicious intent. Alan I'll accept your point Alan - perhaps the penalty I requested was rather harsh and the perpetrator is not usually guilty of such faux pas. I feel that Denis's email closes the subject. -- Regards John the Nadger http://mklinux.cjb.net http://www.nadger.uklinux.net Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [newbie] check this site out
Yeah, it's possible. I just use ASCII-art at the boot-prompt (the linux logo you get when you type linux_logo at the prompt if you have the package installed). somehow, a "real" graphic must be possible too, since the install does it, but I have no idea how. You can get the ascii-stuff however, by downloading and installing "lilo-colors" or something like that. If you're interrested, and can't find it on freshmeat, I'll forward the RPM to you, just drop me a mail. On Mar 17 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.kmfms.com Microsoft bashing, linux, all to a KMFDM-ish (a cool band) theme. Gotta love that graphic! I know this isn't really Mandrake related, but I'm willing to bet some of you will like. Ok, to keep this on topic, I'm thinking about adding a graphic to my LILO prompt. Mandrake 7.0 boot disk does it. Is it possible for me to do this as well? I'm going to be playing around with this, if anyone has some hints please post. If I figure it out I will post how here. Or, better yet, is it possible to make my console login prompt a graphic? (no, not PC ASCII characters) I'm thinking the above graphic would be cool until I get sick of it. ~Jeremy -- Rial Juanhttp://nighty.ulyssis.org e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Belgiumtel:(++32) 89/856533 ulyssis system admininstrator http://www.ulyssis.org The little critters in nature; they don't know they're ugly. That's very funny... A fly marying a bumble-bee... Sign the petition at http://www.libranet.com/petition.html Help bring us more Linux Drivers
[newbie] KDE intrusion on Gnome
All, I use Gnome with sawmill as my preferred choice. When I use some kde programs (kmail for example) my desktop gets filled with the kde icons. This happens some times and not others. Is there a way to stop this? Wayne *** *** Wayne Petherick Criminology Department Humanities and Social Sciences Bond University Gold Coast, Australia *** ***
Re: [newbie] Free ISP for Linux -- NOT SO! Not for Linux!
Ok, so I want to download this to run on Madrake 7.0, but I have to use Windows '95 and AOL to get it. Once I get it, how do I get Linux to dectect my modem and how do I install the program..? -Chris In a message dated 03/19/2000 1:44:21 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's independent of OS's. I used it for my Dreamcast, which only has a 56K modem, and so it'll definitly work for Linux. Just fill out kppp, or whatever is used to dialup in Linux, with your freewwweb username and password and all the rest of the stuff, and it will work just fine. They may not support it as in do tech support for it, but it will work in Linux!
Re: [newbie] net problem
Did you check that there is the two DNS numbers are entered into the kppp setup? On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, stathis gotsis mewed: i have mandrake 7.0.when i connect to the internet through kppp,then netscape can find no host,the same happens with other applications ,such as mail clients.what could be possibly wrong.i would appreciate any help. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- My new linux web servers with Apache http://kittypuss.dnydns.org http://kittypuss.penguinpowered.com
Re: [newbie] KDE intrusion on Gnome
I'm not sure how to stop it, but I think I know what causes it. Some programs seem to he hard coded to use kfm(KMail uses it for links). When ever such a progam is run, AFAIK starting kfm pretty much starts KDE. Richard On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, you wrote: All, I use Gnome with sawmill as my preferred choice. When I use some kde programs (kmail for example) my desktop gets filled with the kde icons. This happens some times and not others. Is there a way to stop this? Wayne *** *** Wayne Petherick Criminology Department Humanities and Social Sciences Bond University Gold Coast, Australia *** ***
Re: [newbie] Free ISP for Linux
the freewwweb service does not require the windows software, all I did was to put the correct dns numbers in kppp where they belong (ask me if you don't quite know) and then *make sure* that the browser that your using has "home page" set to http://home.freewwweb.com and that should continue to work. On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] mewed: I checked this out...I am currently using Winblows '95 and AOL to dial up...When I went there it asked me what type of OP, and didn't have anything listed for Mandrake...Will downloading this software work under Linux? -Chris In a message dated 03/16/2000 4:21:42 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.freewwweb.com --- KM Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there gang: Does anyone know of a free ISP for Linux? I have a friend who wants to connect but it on disability and can't afford an ISP. -- My new linux web servers with Apache http://kittypuss.dnydns.org http://kittypuss.penguinpowered.com
Re: [newbie] check this site out
I thought that e mail listers were configured to not post anything larger than like 200K or so lest it be truncated. On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, bluebottle mewed: On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, you wrote: - Original Message - From: "Jeremy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Mandrake Newbie List" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 12:42 AM Subject: [newbie] check this site out www.kmfms.com Microsoft bashing, linux, all to a KMFDM-ish (a cool band) theme. Gotta love that graphic! I know this isn't really Mandrake related, but I'm willing to bet some of you will like. Ok, to keep this on topic, I'm thinking about adding a graphic to my LILO prompt. Mandrake 7.0 boot disk does it. Is it possible for me to do this as well? I'm going to be playing around with this, if anyone has some hints please post. If I figure it out I will post how here. Or, better yet, is it possible to make my console login prompt a graphic? (no, not PC ASCII characters) I'm thinking the above graphic would be cool until I get sick of it. ~Jeremy This is one of the worst examples of email bad manners I've ever seen. What gives any person the right to post a 2mb file to a mailing list. I hope that the majordomo will immediately remove this person, permanently, from this list. -- Regards John the Nadger http://mklinux.cjb.net http://www.nadger.uklinux.net -- My new linux web servers with Apache http://kittypuss.dnydns.org http://kittypuss.penguinpowered.com
Re: [newbie] Gross email bad manners
Hi! This maybe off- topic, but before attacking this guy for sending out such a huge mail, we should take the time and think back when we were new in the internet and did some things that offended some other people and learned out of it. Nobody accesses the internet with knowledge about what to do and what not. Not that I have been happy to have this large file into my mailbox - but I would prefer to say just something like "Hey, you shouldn't send large mails as this to a mailinglist because... blahblahblah...". Don't tell me that you never did something like this when you have been a beginner. Try to react on things like this the same way you would have liked the people some time ago on your offending mails. Be sure he won't do it again! Take good care, -- , (o o) +--oOOO--(_)---+ | | |H E L L M U T | | | | www.fegefeuer-webzine.de | | | +-0OOO-+ | _ | _ | | | | | | | | | ooO Ooo
[newbie] printer-ink level indication
hello, as many of you may know, in windows any time you print you are given an indication of how much ink you have left in your printer. does anyone happen to hnow of an equivelant program/application for linux that can be downloaded from a web site or is just hiding away on such a disk as #5 contribs. thankyou. simon.
Re: [newbie] It's getting really frustrating (was 'error not enough space in partition /')
Do a re-boot, telinit 6 or reboot and when the lilo boot: thing comes up type linux 1 and then press enter or return and it will come up into a single user mode, after which you can delete inside of /etc/passwd the part that lists root's password, then reboot and try to log in as root again, and don't put in a password, just press enter, then change the root's password to the one of your choice. On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, kiriakos mewed: Well thank you all guys, but 7.0-2 didn't do it for me. I did as Alan suggested , that is I made a floppy from a cdrom.img of 7.0-2 version and I still got the error message that I need 1180 megs and the / filesystem is not sufficient. I managed to install the packages by reducing the package size slider to like 1001 Megabytes, thinking I could add more later if I needed to, and it seemed to work. Ok, packages installed and everything, installation says succesfully completed. When the system reboots, I CAN'T LOGIN as root!!!. But I CAN login as a regular user. I'm 100% sure I'm typing the root password right. is the root user named anything else than 'root' maybe? If it means anything, I've set the security level to paranoid, upon installation. Do I have to type something extra? And what about LILO, it asked for a password too, which I provided, and upon boot it just works without asking a pass or anything. Could these two passwords (root and LILO) be related in some way? Another problem I'm having is that I set the console to 80x60 characters, and it still shows 80x25 or something, with the added problem that when the prompt reaches the bottom of the screen I cannot see what I type, and in fact I have to press Enter 2-3 times and then what I typed shows up finally. I'm thinking I'm not smart enough for Linux and maybe I should drop it. I'm sorry for asking all those questions, but I have no manuals at hand to look into for more info. If someone could point out a complete comprehensive Linux manual/resource/tutorial online, I would appreciate it. I will try looking at the Mandrake web site for more info too. GG Tony wrote: Nothing in this world is certain except death taxes so they say, I never used 7.0 but it was quickly updated because of problems (no personal experience) If you have cdr then burn a copy of 7.0-2 iso which can be found via Mandrake site-- lots of ftp sites/mirrors carry it, use a utility like Cuteftp or Getright that supports resuming, the image is approx 650+ , if you download to hard drive then use Rawrite to make hd bootdisk, turn off Pnp in Bios and go from there, if you burn a cd then turn off Pnp in Bios and reset boot option to Cd first and go from there, hope this is not too detailed and superfluous. "Weave a circle round him thrice, And close your eyes with holy dread, For he on honeydew hath fed, And drunk the milk of paradise." (The linux user) -- My new linux web servers with Apache http://kittypuss.dnydns.org http://kittypuss.penguinpowered.com
[newbie] BJC-2000
The Canon BJC is the model that has taken over from the 4000 series. I was wondering if anyone has got this to work under MDK 7.0 yet and how they did it. Did you use the 4000 series driver or does it need to be done a different way. Wayne *** *** Wayne Petherick Criminology Department Humanities and Social Sciences Bond University Gold Coast, Australia *** ***
Re: [newbie] Gross email bad manners
On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, you wrote: Hi! This maybe off- topic, but before attacking this guy for sending out such a huge mail, we should take the time and think back when we were new in the internet and did some things that offended some other people and learned out of it. Nobody accesses the internet with knowledge about what to do and what not. Not that I have been happy to have this large file into my mailbox - I have already accepted that the final comment I made in my initial email was rather harsh. I imagine that the gentleman concerned is grinning from ear to ear at the thought of his being a beginner. I've got a good memory and he once described his set-up in a debate about bad language. The simple fact is that he has a connection speed that most of us can only dream about and forgot that most of us need about 4 minutes/mb of file. As Denis has acted to reduce future file size it can't happen again. Personally I only send large files to people by prior agreement and then at the most economical time. -- Regards John the Nadger http://mklinux.cjb.net http://www.nadger.uklinux.net
Re: [newbie] bitchx and creating a signature file
Ok, I don't think anyone answered this one yet, so here's the story: BitchX is a console IRC client, it comes on your mandrake 7.0-2 CD. Don't know about earlier Mdrake versions, but I'm sure it's on those as well. If not, search and download on http://freshmeat.net Signature files are simple: just put the text you want as signature in a file called .signature, placed in your homedir. Mose email clients default to this file for their sig-files. If not, there should be some config option to set it. Practical hint: it's more or less a standard to start signatures with the string "-- " (without quotes) on one line, so _good_ email apps know it's a signature, and strip it off on replying to that mail. Nobody wants replies on replies on replies... with 30 consecutive signatures on it. On Mar 18 root wrote: someone told me bitchx is an irc client for linux / xwindows just curious if anyone knows if thats what it is and if so where i can get it also wondering if anyone can tell me how to creat a signature file for email thanks all :o) -- Rial Juanhttp://nighty.ulyssis.org e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Belgiumtel:(++32) 89/856533 ulyssis system admininstrator http://www.ulyssis.org The little critters in nature; they don't know they're ugly. That's very funny... A fly marying a bumble-bee... Sign the petition at http://www.libranet.com/petition.html Help bring us more Linux Drivers
[newbie] LinuxConf Problem
Hello, I have posted this question before and never seemed to of gotten an answer. I am currently using Mandrake 7.0, and installed what I thought was a newer version of LinuxConf, but it was the same version as came with the Distribution. Now when I open it using DrakConf, it opens in a Terminal window, instead of the Graphical KDE interface for X-Windows. [When Running X of course] I am currently in the process of downloading 7.0-2 to see if that cures my problem when installing it, but any help would be greatly appreciated by someone on this list. Thanks, Brad
[newbie] Second Stage Install Error
Hello, I am trying to install mandrake 7.0. Everythings goes well until it gets to the 2ns stage install and I receive this error: install exited abnormally -- received signal 9 send termination signals sending kill signals unmounting filesystem /tmp/hdimage /tmp/stage 2 /proc The End What does this error mean and is there a workaround for it? Also, I am doing a hard drive install using hd.img floppy. Thanks RWB
Re: [newbie] check this site out
*** Before I read the complete thread. Oh God, there we go again. Someone makes _one_ mistake on the list, and the flaming starts all over again. Ok, it's not so nice of him to not consider the poor modem-users when posting to the list by sending huge files, and it is quite like you put it: "email bad manners". But aren't you exagerrating a little? Remove him from the list permanently for one mistake? After all, as I remember from the 2 flaming wars waged against me, you people from this list claimed to be "newbie friendly" and "tolerant" and all that crap, which I, according to you guys, wasn't when I told ppl to RTFM before asking questions. So where's your so called tolerance for this fellow now? Who knows, he might be just a newbie who doesn't realise other people need half an hour to download a 2MB file because he has a high-bandwidth connection. *** After I read the complete thread. Ok, by now I've read the whole thread before pressing the "send mail" button, so I know you didn't actually mean it this way and already kind of took back those words you said. Next time try to be more careful with the harsh words though. I for one don't give a rat's ass if you all flame me because I try to get a point accross, but I heard rumours that there's actually a sub-branch of the "homo geekus" whose brain hasn't completely developped into its binary form yet, and who still have some fuzzy-logic algorithms they seem to interpret as feelings. These underdevelopped sub-species of our race should be treated with care since they can still get "hurt" in a non-physical way, leading to decreased efficiency at work due to a state of "depression". Ok, think you got my point ;) On Mar 19 bluebottle wrote: On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, you wrote: - Original Message - From: "Jeremy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Mandrake Newbie List" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 12:42 AM Subject: [newbie] check this site out www.kmfms.com Microsoft bashing, linux, all to a KMFDM-ish (a cool band) theme. Gotta love that graphic! I know this isn't really Mandrake related, but I'm willing to bet some of you will like. Ok, to keep this on topic, I'm thinking about adding a graphic to my LILO prompt. Mandrake 7.0 boot disk does it. Is it possible for me to do this as well? I'm going to be playing around with this, if anyone has some hints please post. If I figure it out I will post how here. Or, better yet, is it possible to make my console login prompt a graphic? (no, not PC ASCII characters) I'm thinking the above graphic would be cool until I get sick of it. ~Jeremy This is one of the worst examples of email bad manners I've ever seen. What gives any person the right to post a 2mb file to a mailing list. I hope that the majordomo will immediately remove this person, permanently, from this list. -- Regards John the Nadger http://mklinux.cjb.net http://www.nadger.uklinux.net -- Rial Juanhttp://nighty.ulyssis.org e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Belgiumtel:(++32) 89/856533 ulyssis system admininstrator http://www.ulyssis.org The little critters in nature; they don't know they're ugly. That's very funny... A fly marying a bumble-bee... Sign the petition at http://www.libranet.com/petition.html Help bring us more Linux Drivers
[newbie] ypbind
I keep getting the error "ypbind_proc: Domain not found" when I reboot/boot up. I have check my network settings and found nothing out of the ordinary. Help. Thanks.
Re: [Re: [Re: [newbie] Gross email bad manners]]
Sig files or quotes exactly like this are what I am refering to. -- see bottom to whom this is a reply to... Who the puck cares about some dead dude whom I have never heard of? No I am saying that _some_ of you WHINE about a 1 or 2 K HTML/business card attachement, as a waste of bandwidth...I could care less about a 1 or 2 k file..it takes what...less than a second to grab 1 or 2 K worth of "extra" code Which leads me to wonder why no one has written an emailer that doesn't mind HTML...when almost the entire Net is made of HTML (or a derivative of). I would happily take a try at it...but I am not a programmer. another $0.02 worth Jaguar Michael George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 25, Jaguar wrote: Wow...a bunch of whiner's!!! (although a 2 MB file is quite large) Oh, you think so? Considering most list mail is 3Kb, I'd say 2.8Mb is pretty dang big! If your ISP connect is so bad ie: crappy ISP, worse phone lines, or a 28.8 modem...all of these can be fixed fairly easily...the easiest would be to but a $40.00 hardware modem from Cirrus Logic or some other Co., and probably sign with a new ISP...even the phone lines can be upgraded if you complain to your TelCO enuff. How generous of you to spend my money! My old 14.4Kbps modem works just fine for the vast majority of the mail I get from my ISP. Most of the time I get my mail while at work (56Kbps), but not in the evenings and on the weekend. Besides, why should I upgrade or change anything when the common-sense netiquette says not to post binary-type info to a textual maling list. Ditto for the common newsgroups. But some of you even complain about a 1 or 2 K HTML/business card attachment, as a "waste of bandwidth"do some of you have 2400 modems still When I think that excessively (4 lines of text or more) long sig files or advertisments for web pages NOT even your own, or people that add "Ya me too" or some such thing to an already long thread, is in reality a total waste of everyone's time. I don't really care to see 4 or more lines in a sig file as it is usually a banal quote from someone long dead, or even worse...unheard of. Some of the sig's I have seen make NO sense what so ever? Wait a minute. Are you saying that 1-2K HTML attachments are just fine, but .sig files 4 lines are offensive? If that *is* what you are saying, then I guess to you it all just depends on whose ox is gored. I guess if you hadn't liked the audio file, then you'd be all up-in-arms against the guy. -Michael -- No, my friend, the way to have good and safe government, is not to trust it all to one, but to divide it among the many, distributing to every one exactly the functions he is competent to. It is by dividing and subdividing these republics from the national one down through all its subordinations, until it ends in the administration of every man's farm by himself; by placing under every one what his own eye may superintend, that all will be done for the best. -- Thomas Jefferson, to Joseph Cabell, 1816 Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [newbie] Drake Config
I had the same problem when I updated to 7.0. Linuxconfig wouldn't even run in the terminal window. I went to mandake and updated the Drake Config to a newer version. It ran after the new install. And linux configs graphic interface was one of the options from within Drake. Hope this helps. Karekin On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, jeff wrote: I just upgrade the server at work. All went well, but after install I went to the KDE and there was no linux config and drake config was there but it wouldn't come up. Any clues ?
RE: [newbie] It's getting really frustrating (was 'error notenough space in partition /')
already giving up on linux Jon? I am a newbie since a month as well... you can run linux even with small knowledge especially mandrake 7.0 but DUH you must read some documentation ! You think we are gifted and just knew everything ?? I'd wish ! get yourself a nice linux book and get starting and you'll see it ain't that hard!!! good luck Robert -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Jon Hunter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: Sunday, March 19, 2000 8:27 PM Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: Re: [newbie] It's getting really frustrating (was 'error notenough space in partition /') Denis Are you saying, "You get what you pay for?" i.e. A free car isn't worth owning? All joking aside, You guys put some good dox right on the ISO image. LAG Linux Administrator's Guide NAGNetwork Administrator's Guide LAME Linux Administration Made Easy Denis Havlik wrote: On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, kiriakos wrote: :~Well thank you all guys, but 7.0-2 didn't do it for me. I did as Alan :~suggested , that is I made a floppy from a cdrom.img of 7.0-2 version :~and I still got the error message that I need 1180 megs and the / :~filesystem is not sufficient. I managed to install the packages by :~reducing the package size slider to like 1001 Megabytes, thinking I :~could add more later if I needed to, and it seemed to work. no problem anymore, I see. :~ :~Ok, packages installed and everything, installation says succesfully :~completed. When the system reboots, I CAN'T LOGIN as root!!!. But I CAN :~login as a regular user. Good. This is a security measure - if you do not like it, change the security level. Or first log-in as user, then "su" to root. :~If it means anything, I've set the security level to paranoid, upon :~installation. Do I have to type something extra? And what about LILO, it :~asked for a password too, which I provided, and upon boot it just works :~without asking a pass or anything. Could these two passwords (root and :~LILO) be related in some way? Paranoid+newbie == a lot of trouble. :~I'm thinking I'm not smart enough for Linux and maybe I should drop it. :~I'm sorry for asking all those questions, but I have no manuals at hand :~to look into for more info. If someone could point out a complete :~comprehensive Linux manual/resource/tutorial online, I would appreciate :~it. I will try looking at the Mandrake web site for more info too. Aha, schurke!! You did not BUY our beautifull package with nice books, stickers and all that jazz, as well as the install suppoert. ccc. Instead, you just just burned the ISO image, did not bother reading the online documentation and go around telling people 7.0 is no-good. ccc. Naughty naughty boy you are... ;- cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo-
