Re: Fw: [newbie-it] Upgrade kernel 2.4.0 test 9-patch
On Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 06:51:18PM +0200, ENx wrote: Grazie mille Fabio, ho trovato la patch giusta, ma come faccio ad applicarla??? ENx Dunque, per prima cosa scompatti i sorgenti dal tar.gz originale, qualcosa del tipo tar xvfz linux-2.4.0-pre9.tar.gz (se compattato gzip) oppure tar xvfzI linux-2.4.0-pre9.tar.bz2 od anche bunzip2 -c linux-2.4.0-pre9.tar.bz2 | tar xfv - se compattato bz2 Dove li scompatti? dunque, io li metto in /usr/src, ma Linus ha assolutamente sconsigliato questo posto, in quanto si vanno a sovrascrivere gli headers del kernel fornito con la distro. Quindi li si possono mettere in /usr/local/src Io ho semrpe fatto in /usr/src, non sono ancora morto :-), ma seguiamo cosa dice il capo :)) A questo punto applichi la patch, con un comando più o meno così: bunzip2 -c patch-.bz2 | patch -p0 o gunzip -c patch-.gz | patch -p0 od ancora cat patch- | patch -p0 A seconda di come è compattata. In genere la directory dove fare questo lavoro è /usr/local/src, ossia nello stesso punto da dove hai scompattato il sorgente, ma non è una regola fissa. Prova a giocherellare un po' e dimmi cosa succede :-) -- Fabio Coatti http://members.ferrara.linux.it/cova
[newbie-it] impostazioni kde: accelerazione mouse e editor predefinito
Ciao. Dopo aver installato staroffice(stress) ho un problema: i file di testo prima bastava cliccarci sopra e venivano aperti con text editor. Ora invece vengono aperti con staroffice, che pero' e' pesantissimo e ci vuole una vita perche' parta. Come si fa e reimpostare text editor come programma predefinito? Inoltre da un po' di tempo tutte le volte che parte kde mi devo reimpostare l'accelerazione e la sensibilita', in pratica non rimane memorizzata. Che si puo' fare? Grazie a tutti, Nicola.
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[newbie-it] linux e ultra ata 100
Ciao a tutti! Ho acquistato un pc così configurato: Duron 600 Mb Asus a7v 64Mb ram Riva Tnt 2 ho provato subito ad installarvi la mandrake 7.1, ma l'installazione si interrompe perchè non viene trovato nessun supporto su cui creare il filesystem cioè l'hard disk che è, dimenticavo, un samsung 20 Gb, 5400 U-ata 100. Ho provato ad installare anche la suse 6.4, ma mi dà lo stesso problema, solo che lei vede 6 dischi, di cui 2 scsi...(ohimè). Poichè sul mio vecchio pc non avevo mai avuto questo problema, e io vorrei usare winzozz il meno possibile, qualcuno sa come superarlo? Secondo voi si tratta del controller promise u-ata 100? Grazie a tutti __ Do You Yahoo!? Il tuo indirizzo gratis e per sempre @yahoo.it su http://mail.yahoo.it
R: [newbie-it] linux e ultra ata 100
La controller è integrata, vero? Conosco diversa gente a cui ha dato dei problemi, alcuni non riuscivano a istallare neanche windows. - Original Message - From: Gigi Cyber [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 4:11 PM Subject: [newbie-it] linux e ultra ata 100 Ciao a tutti! Ho acquistato un pc così configurato: Duron 600 Mb Asus a7v 64Mb ram Riva Tnt 2 ho provato subito ad installarvi la mandrake 7.1, ma l'installazione si interrompe perchè non viene trovato nessun supporto su cui creare il filesystem cioè l'hard disk che è, dimenticavo, un samsung 20 Gb, 5400 U-ata 100. Ho provato ad installare anche la suse 6.4, ma mi dà lo stesso problema, solo che lei vede 6 dischi, di cui 2 scsi...(ohimè). Poichè sul mio vecchio pc non avevo mai avuto questo problema, e io vorrei usare winzozz il meno possibile, qualcuno sa come superarlo? Secondo voi si tratta del controller promise u-ata 100? Grazie a tutti __ Do You Yahoo!? Il tuo indirizzo gratis e per sempre @yahoo.it su http://mail.yahoo.it
[newbie-it] icon editor
Qualcuno si ricorda in quale pacchetto si trova l'icon editor? Grazie -- Davide Cavallarie-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie-it] Come si installa Grub?
Ciao a tutti, la reinstallazione di winzoz mi ha sovrascritto l'mbr cancellandomi grub come si fa per reinstallarlo(dopo aver caricato linux con il disco di avvio,ovviamente)? So come si fa per LILO, ma io voglio GRUB :-(). Ciao e grazie!
Re: [newbie-it] linux e ultra ata 100
Secondo voi si tratta del controller promise u-ata 100? Se ti puo' aiutare: io so solo che il supporto per l'ultraATA100 era in sperimentazione alcuni mesi fa. non so se gia' nella Mandrake 7.1 sia stato implementato (anche se mi pare che cosi' non sia perche' io faccio sempre installazione personalizzata e non mi e' mai capitato di vedere riferimenti all'UDMA100) anche ricompilando il kernel (avevo compilato la versione 2.4.0 test6) non ho trovato riferimenti all'UDMA100 ciao Alessandro
Re: [newbie] Mandrake supportI
On 14 Oct 2000, at 9:51, Romanator wrote: Hi Larry, When I registered, I had a response within 48 hours. That's not bad considering the hundreds of emails they must receive from around the world. I don't know if any one out there has ever worked in a technical support environment. I'm sure after a few days work, you'd give 'em a little break. I work in such an enviroment and our goal is answer all calls within 5 minutes... granted, sometimes in a peak period that stretches out a lot, but most of our customers spend more time in the voicemail menus than waiting for an answer! (and we serve all of North America for tens of thousands of systems...) Damn we're good! (straining shoulder to pat self on back) Customer Technical Support Person
[newbie] WOW, Mozilla M18
Is it just me or has there been major improvment from M11 to M18. On my box anyhow M18 screams! As fast if not faster than netscape 4.75 and much faster than Opera so far. But why oh why did they change the GUI to look more like netscape I actually liked the M17 GUI. Anyone think I'm nuts about M18 running good? -- ICQ# 27396393 Registered Linux User 181996
Re: [newbie] large hard disk
That is why Linux-Mandrake developed GRUB, it does not have the problem with 1024 cylinders Uhm...Linux-Mandrake didn't develop GRUB...it's a GNU program. Current versions of LILO don't care abut 1024 cylinders either. All this presumes that the BIOS is recent enough to deal with large drives. Cheers --- Larry
Re: [newbie] large hard disk
Joe, See all of my earlier discussions on "shim" programs. A lot in the last month, for some reason. Use shim programs ONLY if you MUST. Being that you say your motherboard is only two years old I would expect it to support LBA drives; are you ABSOLUTELY sure that you have to use the bios overlay ( "shim" or disc manager program) to see the full capacity of the drive? If not, or to test it, reinstall the shim to the hard drive to undo the mbr corruption you have now, then "uninstall" it. Check that CMOS is set to hard drive "auto" for both configuration and mode. Fdisk should now function normally and see the entire drive capacity. If so you can go ahead with a normal installation. The following discussion is assuming that you must use a disk manager program: Your problem arises because the Linux install put the Lilo (or grub) bootloader in the mbr area. This is where the disk manager (shim, bios overlay) lives, thus the shim program is messed up and this in turn is causing all of the disc problems. The fix is that you must reinstall the shim onto the hard drive. Since you say that the floppy with the shim software shows that everything is still there, Windon't and Linux may both be intact, but with unknown damage from trying to fdisk /or format while experimenting. The discrepancy where fdisk is showing only 8GB is because it can't access the shim information, it cannot see the whole drive; this is not a significant problem. Primary partitions must be created by the shim program, not by fdisk, either DOS or Linux, and not by Partition Magic. The Linux install may be able to then assign and divide up an empty available partition to itself, or you may have to hand-create all Linux partitions before you begin the Linux install. Read the information about the shim that is with the program (a leaflette or a readme file); it will probably say to press spacebar when the EZ BIOS message is displayed to boot from a floppy. In this way you can access the floppy drive and boot Linux from the boot disc you make when you install Linux Mandrake. Forget conventional dual-booting. Begin your Linux Mandrake install by using the boot from floppy procedure that the shim requires (not doing so may cause the Linux install not to see the Windon't partition, overwriting it: Linux doesn't see the shim's partition information and sees the drive as empty, handling the whole drive itself.). Do not do an automatic install. Write Lilo (or grub) on the beginning of the partition containing Linux, NOT TO THE MBR. There is an option near the end of the install for this that you will see when you reinstall. This should allow you to complete your Linux install and have it co-exist with a Windon't installation on this drive. Though I've worked with shim programs as a computer technician, I have not used them with Linux, thus I'm not sure about your having to make all partitions from the shim software before beginning the Linux install. -Gary- In a message dated 10/16/2000 6:37:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A few months ago I bought a Maxtor Diamondmax 40 gig hard drive. I installed it with Windows 98 using the included Maxblast Plus software floppy. The software included a BIOS overlay called EZ BIOS. Everything installed correctly and gave me two 20 gig partitions labeled D: and E: Whenever I booted up I saw the words EZ BIOS on the screen after the Compaq startup logo disappeared. (I have a Compaq Presario 4834 about 2 years old). When I set up a dual boot with Linux, I put Linux on the Maxtor 40 gig drive. I never did check to see how many gigs I was actually getting but the install seemed to indicate I had 40 gigs available. Since then I've had to remove Linux temporarily. I repartitioned and reformatted the drive using DOD fdisk, but fdisk tells me I only have 8 gigs available on that drive. I no longer see the EZ BIOS at boot. When I try to reformat with the Maxblast floppy it seems to partition the drive into two 20 gig non-dos partitions. Fdisk shows those two non-dos partitions but still says I have only 8 gigs available. If I try to reformat the two partitions into DOS partitions, it will only let me have the 8 gigs. Any ideas? Thank you to the experts out there. Joe
[Re: [newbie] Cant See My Apache]
You are right. I ran apache manually. Now, I can see my server again. But that explains my second problem which turns out to effect and cause my first: I can't save my changes in the "StartUp Services" in "DrakConf" when I click on httpd, mysql, ipchains, and etc. Is there a way to avoid using the GUI "StartUp Services" in "DrakConf" and modify things somehow? Thanks, --Al Dan Gibbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: make sure your acually running apache!! and not roxen - god only knows what it is, but kill it the run apache... Dan Gibbs wrote: this is the same problem I've had... but I started with no acess to anything but 127.0.0.1 (even though it took a day to install lm7.1 + pcmica) If you find out how to fix it let us know.. I'm just trying a rebuild :( Altoine Barker wrote: Help! I've installed apache-1.3.12-30mdk.i586.rpm and the other compliments with suexec, common, and perl_mod. I was able to see and use my website up until I went into DrakConf and Clicked on the "Security Level" and set it to high. Now my server denies all access to the server even to me when I do "localhost", or 127.0.0.1! Please help. I have LM7.2beta3 (I had this same problem with LM7.1 by the way). I also can't save my changes to the "Startup Services". Thank you in advance. Sincerely, --Al Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail
[newbie] Mandrake 7.1 S3 Trio 3D
Hello again I was trying to Install Mandrake 7.1 in my job's computer, (I wanted show the Linux excelences to my boss), and I ever got the same problem, when I'm configuring the X Server, when I try to test the resolution mode the instalation crash! the window appears black and never returns to the instalation, I'm installing it in an: IBM PC 300GL with 64MB Ram, S3 Trio 3D Integrated in the motherboard with 4MB, HD 2 GB for linux and 2GB for W98 and one Ethernet ne2000 compatible. I read that this video card is incompatible with linux, how could I configure X then? perhaps like Standard SVGA? or VGA? I can't install other Video Card, (is my job's computer, my boss don't let me do that), Some help could be very very GREAT FANTASTIC! Iagoba
[newbie] Lib's of 7.2 Beta
Hi, I have recently downloaded Mandrake 7.2 beta version, which I really need to run my GeForce2 GTS video card properly. Installation was OK. However, I need to run matlab (5.3) and it requires 'libdl.so.1' library. But 7.2 has a newer version and I cannot install libdl.so.1 on top of a newer version. And this new version is no good for matlab. Any idea about what I can do to get the libdl.so.1 library and make it used by matlab (and preferably only by matlab). Burak
Re: [newbie] transfering dirs/files
I wrote a Rexx script as part of the Electronic Software Distribution (ESD) systems I develop which uses the SysFileTree API to build a list of files and dirs for both the from and to, and notes differences by copying the file from the from to the to. Pretty quick and easy, built a hash table to speed up the locates in the array, or stem as they are called in Rexx. Rexx also makes it easy as you can use any set of chars to store the variable in a stem, whereas an array usually is partitioned into numbered units... file names are not really numbers usually. Don't know what languages you work with, but something like that would probably be a nice tool in your tool box. I'm on this newbie list because I am one when it comes to Linux... someday the code will be on Linux and then I would just ship it over. Sorry. Michael Lueck Lueck Data Systems http://www.lueckdatasystems.com/
[newbie] cmi8338 sound card
has anyone got this sound card to work in linux?? i have tried two different ways the first way was i got 2.2.17 kernel turned off the code maturity level so i could compile the driver( as the cmi8338 driver is still experimental) compiled the kernel, everthing went fine no errors or anything, restarted but when i clicked on the mixer in the kde menu it say no module compiled. the way i went about that was make mrproper make xconfig make dep make clean make bzImage make install make modules make modules_install the other one option was i got the drivers off the c-media website i did as the instructions said but when i boot up each tiem i get a sound module failed. so i was wondering as anyone managed to get it to work and if so can someone give me a detailed email on how they got it to work. i currently using mandrake 6.5 thank you
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.1 S3 Trio 3D
have you tried standard video setup there could be a problem with your cards chip set ok stephen - Original Message - From: "Iagoba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Listas-Newbie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 5:42 PM Subject: [newbie] Mandrake 7.1 S3 Trio 3D Hello again I was trying to Install Mandrake 7.1 in my job's computer, (I wanted show the Linux excelences to my boss), and I ever got the same problem, when I'm configuring the X Server, when I try to test the resolution mode the instalation crash! the window appears black and never returns to the instalation, I'm installing it in an: IBM PC 300GL with 64MB Ram, S3 Trio 3D Integrated in the motherboard with 4MB, HD 2 GB for linux and 2GB for W98 and one Ethernet ne2000 compatible. I read that this video card is incompatible with linux, how could I configure X then? perhaps like Standard SVGA? or VGA? I can't install other Video Card, (is my job's computer, my boss don't let me do that), Some help could be very very GREAT FANTASTIC! Iagoba --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.198 / Virus Database: 95 - Release Date: 10/4/00
[newbie] Macro Changes
When I used RedHat 5.2 with kernel 2.0.36 I had the follow hacks in my macro file for creating sendmail.cf. When I upgraded to Mandrake 7.0, kernel 2.2.14-15, and Sendmail 8.9.3-18 I wasn't able to use the following hacks. What has replaced the hacks or are any of them still used? HACK(`check_mail3', `hash -a@JUNK /etc/mail/deny')dnl HACK(`use_ip', `/etc/mail/ip_allow')dnl HACK(`use_names', `/etc/mail/name_allow')dnl HACK(`use_relayto', `/etc/mail/relay_allow')dnl HACK(`check_rcpt4')dnl HACK(`check_relay3')dnl Note: When you reply to this message, please include the mailing list and my email address. * Signed, SoloCDM
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.1 S3 Trio 3D
I tried with standard SVGA and got the same result, I'll try standard VGA, perhaps that could be works don't you think? stephen wrote: have you tried standard video setup there could be a problem with your cards chip set ok stephen - Original Message - From: "Iagoba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Listas-Newbie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 5:42 PM Subject: [newbie] Mandrake 7.1 S3 Trio 3D Hello again I was trying to Install Mandrake 7.1 in my job's computer, (I wanted show the Linux excelences to my boss), and I ever got the same problem, when I'm configuring the X Server, when I try to test the resolution mode the instalation crash! the window appears black and never returns to the instalation, I'm installing it in an: IBM PC 300GL with 64MB Ram, S3 Trio 3D Integrated in the motherboard with 4MB, HD 2 GB for linux and 2GB for W98 and one Ethernet ne2000 compatible. I read that this video card is incompatible with linux, how could I configure X then? perhaps like Standard SVGA? or VGA? I can't install other Video Card, (is my job's computer, my boss don't let me do that), Some help could be very very GREAT FANTASTIC! Iagoba --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.198 / Virus Database: 95 - Release Date: 10/4/00
Re: [newbie] transfering dirs/files
well...it worked for awhile...but stopped after an error it said delayed error found...or something like that... does TAR have a limit of how many files it will tar? or will it tar as many as you want? Greg Stewart wrote: What was you tar syntax? Did you tar a directory from just above it? If not, try the following: tar -cvpf filename.tar directoryname -c = create -v = verbose -p = preserve (permissions) -f = filename (the filename must come immediately after the 'f' or the next argument becomes the filename) Does this help? Or was this what you had done? --Greg - Original Message - From: "KompuKit" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I want to save and/or transfer my whole public_html directory to another drive on my computer...(have two) However, my public_html dir is very large, and I definitly want to save/transfer this whole dir...and at the same time, keep all case in tact...(upper/lower case) of filenames/directories. The last time I did this (using KFM) (thought it would be quicker), all the cases were changed somehowand I don't want this to happen this time...so HOW...do I do thisand save the case of all filenames/dirs ??? [note] tried to do it with tar but it wouldn't... -- Registered Linux User:167369 =KompuKit= Kit Goins ICQ# 7110071 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lowell, Mass. Web Designerhttp://kitdesigns.bizhosting.com WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org (Server Runs between M - F 6pm-12am, S S 12pm-12am EST) =KompuKit= __ Vous avez un site perso ? 2 millions de francs à gagner sur i(france) ! Webmasters : ZE CONCOURS ! http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/concours.emailif -- Registered Linux User:167369 =KompuKit= Kit Goins ICQ# 7110071 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lowell, Mass. Web Designerhttp://kitdesigns.bizhosting.com WebServer: http://kompukit.dyndns.org (Server Runs between M - F 6pm-12am, S S 12pm-12am EST) =KompuKit=
Re: [newbie] Lib's of 7.2 Beta
Burak Acar wrote: Hi, I have recently downloaded Mandrake 7.2 beta version, which I really need to run my GeForce2 GTS video card properly. Installation was OK. However, I need to run matlab (5.3) and it requires 'libdl.so.1' library. But 7.2 has a newer version and I cannot install libdl.so.1 on top of a newer version. And this new version is no good for matlab. Any idea about what I can do to get the libdl.so.1 library and make it used by matlab (and preferably only by matlab). Burak Using the older libary my break some other applications but to back down in revisions use this command: rpm -Uvh --oldpackage 'package.name.rpm'
[newbie] Problems with wheel mouse
I've installed LM 7.1 and everything works fine except my mouse! Instead a pointer I only see a white square :-(( What can I do? My mouse as two buttons and a wheel (Intellimouse compatible). I've tried change the type of the mouse in Drakconf but it don't change! Some help, please! AF
Re: [newbie] ? Arkeia backup utility
Larry Marshall wrote: On disk 5 of my mandrake deluxe package there is a program named Arkeia backup utility. I looked on Arkeia's web pages and it appeared as if this utility will backup to tapes only. Is that correct? Or have I missed read the info about Arkeia. I wish to backup to a disk drive. Will this utility backup to a disk drive? The October issue of Linux Journal reviews several backup utilities, including Arkeia. You are correct in determining that it is for tape backups, in fact, it assumes that you're doing it from one machine to another over a network, in client/server fashion. I'm not sure what you're trying to backup to a disk drive but you might consider using one or more of your basic Linux tools. For instance, you could simply create tar files and copy them to the other drive (or create them there). If you want to put actual, accessible file systems on the backup drive you can use tar like: *example presumes you're at the base of a tree you want backed up tar cf - / . | (cd /where_you_want_a_copy; tar xvf -) Someone here, can't remember who, uses cpio to do his backups to another drive. Cheers --- Larry Thanks Larry: I just want to back up the conf files. My system is a home workstation. I think I will back them up untared so if I need to restore from a rescue disk it will take less effort and knowledge. I have a book "Sams Teach Yourself Linux" which says the backup utility BRU is on the cdrom that came with the book. But I cannot find it on the cdrom. It is suppose to be a free personal edition of the BRU. The book also said I could download it from BRU's web site, but I saw not free personal edition to download. Oh well, such is life. Have a nice day Charles
Re: [newbie] linux isp
Ummm...that pretty much depends upon where you live. And, this thing about "Linux Friendly" ISP's is a misnomer. Since the ISP, except for AOsmeLl don't care what OS you're running, there really isn't any such thing as a Linux friendly ISP. When you sign up with an ISP for service you normally get certain information from them to facilitate a connection to their computers for service. This would be a username, (which you choose as well as a password for authentication), the name of the mail server, (so you can pick up your mail), the phone number to tell your modem where to dialup to make a connection, and two DNS numbers to let TCP/IP where to start looking. If this is friendly to anyone it's "User friendly". But then again, this would be the norm outside the fortified walls of the evil empire better known as "AOL". -- Mark /* I never worry about the to-jams. * Once I've stuck my foot in my mouth * it's already too late...just make sure * you chew them thoroughly before swallowing! */ Registered Linux user #182496 * Pine 4.21 * On Sun, 15 Oct 2000 10:20pm ,[EMAIL PROTECTED] spake passionately in a message: ANY SUGGESTIONS FOR RELIABLE, CHEAP, AND FAST INTERNET PROVIDERS FRIENDLY TO LINUX. THANX
RE: [newbie] ANSI C++ library
Just FYI (under mandrake 7.1) , I found iostream.h under: /usr/include/g++-3/iostream.h The various C++ stuff /usr/doc/libstdc++-devel-2.95.2 /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.95.3/libstdc++.so /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i586-mandrake-linux/2.95.3/libstdc++.a /usr/lib/libstdc++-3-libc6.1-2-2.10.0.so /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.1-1.1.so.2 /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.9 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.7.2.8 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.8.0 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.8 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.2.7.2 /usr/lib/libstdc++-3-libc6.1-2-2.10.0.a /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.1-2.a.3 /usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib/libstdc++.so.27.1.4 /usr/i486-linux-libc5/lib/libstdc++.so.27 Also, one other thing 'iostream.h' is not the current standard anymore, the standard is 'iostream' (no .h and also found under /usr/include/g++-3), but this doesn't really matter, because the code that needs to be compiled is using the old version of the streams library. I agree though, it seems like every type of installation, except for maybe a minimal one, would include the option to install the "developer files and utilities" just becuase Linux is so centered around being able to download and compile the source. -Original Message- From: Larry Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 6:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] ANSI C++ library In the past month or so at least two people asked about locating iostream.h under Mandrake. I haven't done any C++ coding and so couldn't answer their question but it seemed an odd one since, by appearances, LM installs the standard GNU compilers/libraries. I stuck it on a "check this out" list I have and that's exactly what I did today. The results? Well, I'm simply scratching my head - there is no standard ANSI C++ library to be found. Finding this pretty darn amazing I loaded up the install and went into expert mode to see I could find. Guess what? If you click on C++ in the development section you're great by a msg that says this is GNU C++ BUT it does NOT include the ANSI C++ library. What's up with that? What's the point of a C++ compiler without the standard library? At the time I felt like Sherlock Holmes; I'd solved a case but it wasn't a question I was asking :-) Then I went to compile/install Quanta and lo an beholderror...iostream.h not found (grin). The plot thickens. I bopped over to GNU.org and can't find anything that appears to be an ANSI library. What's it called these days? I know they have one as I used several versions of it when we were all chasing the definition of that library. But that was on Solaris, not Linux. Can anyone help? A search name perhaps...preferably for binaries? Cheers --- Larry
[newbie] Samba Problem
I can access my shares with smbclient so Samba must be working, but when i try to get inwith Win98 my password isnt accepted. Anyone have any idea whats going on and how to remedy it? Thanks Richard CawoodICQ. 841290http://www.teampicard.co.uk/http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/
[newbie] Re:Mandrake 7.1 S3 Trio 3D
Well, I could configure X Windows Server to run in VGA16 mode, but I'm wonderful that I couldn't configure it for more resolution, now I got it in 640x480x16, and the card allows more, if someone got a similar PC configuration, could send it xFree86 conf. to me? my configuration is... IBM PC 300 GL Monitor IBM 6540 - G42 S3 Trio 3D/64 64 MB Ram 4 GB HD - 2 Windows, 2 Linux W98 Linux Mandrake 7.1 And one Ethernet ne2000 comp. that works fine. Thanks to all, Iagoba
[newbie] Linux on Oracle
hi all, thnaks for your help I am an Oracle DBA and so far have worked only on WindowsNT. Now i am trying to install Oracle8i (8.1.6) on Linux. I have got Linux Mandrake version 7.1 installed on a intel system. 300 MHz 64MB RAM The oracle Documentaion asks to create 4 mountpoints. One for the software and 3 for the database. I don't know if this is the right place to ask this question. Thanks again vinayak __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/
[newbie] uninstalling linux mandrake.
ok, ok, ok So 500 MB wasn't enough partition space to make a properly working Linux Mandrake without eventually crashing. I learn from these things. [: As I result, I'm trying to uninstall the linux partition and put all back to the original state. I want to get rid of the LILO boot and slide the 500 MB back into my Win95 partition where I need it until I upgrade from my ghetto-style 4 GB HDD. I ran the "uninstall Linux parition" program. It said it was removed and everything... Strangely, my computer still goes to LILO, then linux boots (unless, of course I type in "dos"). Win95 says my 3.75GB (practically 4GB) HDD is 2.6GB, so the partition is obviously still there... ANY help would be greatly appreciated. (=
RE: [newbie] uninstalling linux mandrake.
boot from a DOS disk, perform an fdisk /mbr and you will be back to square 1 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 10:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] uninstalling linux mandrake. ok, ok, ok So 500 MB wasn't enough partition space to make a properly working Linux Mandrake without eventually crashing. I learn from these things. [: As I result, I'm trying to uninstall the linux partition and put all back to the original state. I want to get rid of the LILO boot and slide the 500 MB back into my Win95 partition where I need it until I upgrade from my ghetto-style 4 GB HDD. I ran the "uninstall Linux parition" program. It said it was removed and everything... Strangely, my computer still goes to LILO, then linux boots (unless, of course I type in "dos"). Win95 says my 3.75GB (practically 4GB) HDD is 2.6GB, so the partition is obviously still there... ANY help would be greatly appreciated. (=
Re: [newbie] Lib's of 7.2 Beta
Yes it did, Linux 7.2 Beta is (at least so far) just fine for GeForce2 GTS cards. It detects it. Burak Sorry I am not answering your question but actually asking you one, hope this is fine ;~) I also have a GTS card and could not get LM7.1 installed to work, I am very new to Linux and dont understand the explanation I read on the net on how to install the nvidia drivers. Did 7.2-beta work "out of the box" with your GTS card for 2D or did you have to install the drivers? I dont care that much about the 3D just as long as I can install it. Thanks in advance On Mon, 16 Oct 2000 19:38:41 -0700 (PDT) Burak Acar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hi, I have recently downloaded Mandrake 7.2 beta version, which I really need to run my GeForce2 GTS video card properly. Installation was OK. However, I need to run matlab (5.3) and it requires 'libdl.so.1' library. But 7.2 has a newer version and I cannot install libdl.so.1 on top of a newer version. And this new version is no good for matlab. Any idea about what I can do to get the libdl.so.1 library and make it used by matlab (and preferably only by matlab). Burak George Labuschagne "Endure, in enduring grow strong" - Dak'kon the Pariah ___ http://www.webmail.co.za the South-African free email service
Re: [newbie] WOW, Mozilla M18
On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, you wrote: The earliest version I tested was M17 and M18 is definitely better than M17 so I would assume it's also better than M11 Oops, I meant M17 not M11 Hmm..in my experience it seems (mostly) as fast as NS 4.73 but definitely not as fast as Opera. maybe its just my machine or the way I have opera setup(linux newbie) but it is really really slow for me. I worshiped Opera on Windows when I still ran windows. -- ICQ# 27396393 Registered Linux User 181996
[newbie] Error installing Linux Mandrake 7.0
During the install when it prompts me wether this is an install or and upgrade I get an error that no partitions could be found. How can I create partitions? I get this error very early during the setup (before I get into the graphical installer Only the insane have strength enough to prosperOnly those who prosper truly judge what is saneDominique DuvalService Desk AgentGreat West Life Assurance Co.[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Help With MBR
Jim, I hope you don't mind if I put my response to your message to me [which is copied below] on the newbie list. Many people are having problems with the same things you are. This response is a natural followup to several things I've written about, ususally under the topic "[newbie] large disc", and will allow me to tie up some loose ends resulting from treating several separate but related topics separately. If the motherboard bios, referred to as the CMOS, (using any fdisk, or the CMOS "hard drive detect" and typically needing to reset the first CMOS page back to "auto" afterward) sees the full capacity of the hard drive there is no need to use a bios overlay (known as a disc manager program, which I refer to as a shim) or to to update the motherboard bios. If the motherboard cannot see the full drive capacity, and the motherboard has a flash bios update feature, check with the motherboard's manufacturer because they may have a fix for the problem. If the motherboard does not have a flash bios, updating CMOS by replacing the on-board chips can be done but the cost is typically 3/4 of what a new motherboard would cost. By the time you factor in the effort involved it's hardly worth it, and I don't recommend it. The (literally) last choice option is to use a shim program. Shim programs work, but when there is a problem it's a big one. The cause could be hardware, software (including virus), or electrical (UPS use is highly recommended, especially with a shim). You will lose access to your entire drive, and it is VERY difficult to recover from, at best. If you are going to use a shim do the same as you would if you were using DOS hard drive compression (which was fashionable a few years ago): be devoutly religious about FULL backups on a frequent basis. I've personally used both shims and disc compression without data loss, but I was very careful. I've installed many shims as a computer technician. You won't find many people who have used them without having major trouble because of them. Use Linux fdisk to delete stubborn partitions (it will handle some things that the DOS version will not), use DOS "fdisk /mbr" (without the quotes) to reset your master boot record area of the hard drive from the effects of Lilo (or grub) [DOS "fdisk /mbr" (without the quotes) can also clean up "partition table errors", sometimes they turn out to be mbr errors but the error message doesn't distinguish] and then (if Windows is not already installed) use DOS fdisk to set up the first partition into which you will install Windows. Install Windows before installing Linux or Windows will choke. Use the Linux fdisk to create the partitions you need for Linux (usually done as part of the Linux installation). Note that the two fdisks are different. It has been written months back in newbie that using DOS fdisk even to establish a partition into which you will install Linux can lead to DOS utilities damaging Linux. If you use a shim program you will have to use it to make all of the partitions, do not use either fdisk, and also use the shim's special floppy boot procedure to start both the Windows and the Linux installations. Jim, in your specific case, use the DOS utilities that are on the Linux Mandrake CD. Use the Linux fdisk to delete the partition where you intend to install Linux. If Windows exists on your first partition (you may need to use the DOS "fdisk /mbr" (without the quotes) command to restore the hard drive to DOS bootable), the Linux install should show you both that and the unallocated space and allow you to install Linux in the unallocated space. You should not need to create a partition first unless you are using a shim. You may prefer (or simply want ) to obtain Tom's root boot. It's available on the internet in both Linux and DOS downloadable form. This makes a one disk self-bootable Linux floppy with many utilities and disaster recovery tools including a Linux fdisk. Documentation is on the site. The DOS fdisk won't fix some things that a Linux fdisk will. Tom's may be a very good choice for you to try. Note that with some programs, especially drive utilities, you have to save the changes, exit, and reboot for them to go into effect (I dont remember whether this is true about Linux fdisk specifically). In my own system I have one hard drive with Win98 and Linux Mandrake set to dual boot with grub. I have a second hard drive with a second linux to play with. If I screw something up, my primary installation is not bothered and there is no loss, simply wipe and reload if I can't fix it. This second Linux boots from floppy. It allows me, still very much a newbie, to test and experiment before I change my primary Linux Mandrake installation. I hope this info will allow you to fix your problem. If not the next step is Partition Magic to delete that partition. I hope some of
[newbie] Screen shots?
Anybody have any Mozilla screen shots? Thanks, Chris Kelly Registered Linux user 185775
RE: [newbie] uninstalling linux mandrake.
I just found "Peanut" Linux installation that claims to need less than 200MB for install. Maybe it's not too late to keep Linux. The readme file says there's an option to overwrite larger installations. Does anyone have experience with Peanut? It looks like just what I've been looking for to install on my meager laptop. How is it for a very new (read as: "virginal") newbie? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 8:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[newbie] uninstalling linux mandrake. ok, ok, ok So 500 MB wasn't enough partition space to make a properly working Linux Mandrake without eventually crashing. I learn from these things. [: As I result, I'm trying to uninstall the linux partition and put all back to the original state. I want to get rid of the LILO boot and slide the 500 MB back into my Win95 partition where I need it until I upgrade from my ghetto-style 4 GB HDD. I ran the "uninstall Linux parition" program. It said it was removed and everything... Strangely, my computer still goes to LILO, then linux boots (unless, of course I type in "dos"). Win95 says my 3.75GB (practically 4GB) HDD is 2.6GB, so the partition is obviously still there... ANY help would be greatly appreciated. (=
RE: [newbie] Linux on Oracle
The mount points are in support of Oracle's OFA, and not a requirement. You can have just a single mount point if you like. In my case I've just created a single mount point of /db ... in fact my first installation just did a mkdir off of root for /db. I've since changed to a whole new drive and mount for it. Mark Wignall MES Oracle DBA Xerox Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Vinayak Pai [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 7:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Linux on Oracle hi all, thnaks for your help I am an Oracle DBA and so far have worked only on WindowsNT. Now i am trying to install Oracle8i (8.1.6) on Linux. I have got Linux Mandrake version 7.1 installed on a intel system. 300 MHz 64MB RAM The oracle Documentaion asks to create 4 mountpoints. One for the software and 3 for the database. I don't know if this is the right place to ask this question. Thanks again vinayak __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/
[newbie] Deaktop Security for Linux
To the newbie group! I am the Network administrator for a municipal government. Currently, we are in the process of performing a rollout in our Public Library, in preparation for an automation system due in the spring. In the process, we are attempting to replace Windows 98 SE with Linux-Mandrake 7.1 . Several of our computers are reserved for use by the library's members. We would like to apply extensive desktop security to these particular PC's, but are unable to find a package, or HOWTO which helps us. What we are attempting to do, is to eliminate such things as the ability to right click on the desktop, and to remove most of the menu items, with the exceptions being Netscape, Staroffice, the floppy drive and printer , a few games, and the ability to "Log-Off". Is there a way to get the job done without having to become a programmer??? Obviously, we wouldn't be doing any of these modifications to "root", only to the "user" profile. Any suggestions??
[newbie] PPP Errors
HI everyone, I have just had to move due to work from Mandrake 7.0 to SuSE 7.0. Ever since this move I have not been able to dial out and connect as user but can dial and connect to the net as root. I presume that this is because I have done something stupid here and I don't know what. Any assistance will be greatly appreciated. When starting kppp as user I get the following message ERROR This kernel has no ppp support, neither compiled in nor via the kernel module loader. To solve this problem * contact your system administrator or * install a kernel with ppp support OK Click on OK and it then throws the following error message ERROR pppd is not properly installed! The pppd binary must be installed with SUID bit set. Contract your system administrator OK Running as root I get none of this it just connects and runs perfectly but I don't want to be connected to the net as root. The file ownership and permissions originally for pppd were owner root group dialout rwxr-xr-- I have changed them to rwxr-xr-x and set the SUID bit. (I presume that adding myself to the group dialout would have achieved the same effect as adding execute permission for others) I no longer get the second error message when running as user but I still get the no ppp support and can't connect to the net. -- Regards Richard http://www.tollyboy.com
[newbie] network problems
I just installed Mandrake 7.1 on my system. At first, I installed over 7.0 to keep all of my preferences and such, but because of a recurring problem with the theme manager not changing the colors in the panel and in windows (whereas in root it would work fine) I decided to go ahead and do a clean install of 7.1. During the installation, I entered the same network info that I was using for 7.0 three days ago, yet after the install, when I boot into Linux, I have no internet access. I've tried tweaking around in netconf but it doesn't help. I have a 3com 3c905-B card and all the forums, etc say that particular card always works. The only thing I know to do is to reinstall 7.0, then upgrade to 7.1 on top of it (because the internet worked when I did that). BUT... when I do that, sometimes (seems random) the theme manager will not change the colors of the pager and the windows (such as the window color when you open the theme manager)... that's not hugely important, but it's really annoying. Also, reinstalling over and over takes FOREVER, since the size of 7.1 is greater than 7.0 (which is a good thing: ). Is there ANY way to get this working inside 7.1 without upgrading 7.0?? If upgrading is the best route (since networking always worked in 7.0) how can I give users the correct permissions so that the theme manager will work correctly? Thanks, Alex Haun
Re: [newbie] uninstalling linux mandrake.
boot from a DOS disk, perform an fdisk /mbr and you will be back to square 1 Will this clear off my Win95 partition too, or just kill off the Linux one? I just found "Peanut" Linux installation that claims to need less than 200MB for install. Maybe it's not too late to keep Linux. The readme file says there's an option to overwrite larger installations. Wonderful idea! Unfortunately, I need as much space as possible, and thus need the whole 500MB ): But I'll re-install Linux soon when I upgrade. (= -I'd never abandon Linux forever.
[newbie] Hardware detection
After Linux detects my sound card(creative64) and my mouse(intellimouse optical ps2) WRONG how do go in and change them. thanks devon ___ Free Unlimited Internet Access! Try it now! http://www.zdnet.com/downloads/altavista/index.html ___
Re: [newbie] uninstalling linux mandrake.
easy as 123 i think i have had to tell several people how to do this, use fdisk in the dos prompt type fdisk /mbr lillo is now dead and your comp will only boot windows now type fdisk now you can delete the linux partition all together using the options in its menu
RE: [newbie] uninstalling linux mandrake.
it will only kill LILO .. nothing else -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 1:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] uninstalling linux mandrake. boot from a DOS disk, perform an fdisk /mbr and you will be back to square 1 Will this clear off my Win95 partition too, or just kill off the Linux one? I just found "Peanut" Linux installation that claims to need less than 200MB for install. Maybe it's not too late to keep Linux. The readme file says there's an option to overwrite larger installations. Wonderful idea! Unfortunately, I need as much space as possible, and thus need the whole 500MB ): But I'll re-install Linux soon when I upgrade. (= -I'd never abandon Linux forever.
Re: [newbie] Error installing Linux Mandrake 7.0
Does your BIOS see the hard drive you are trying to install to? Is there already an OS on the drive and working? - Original Message - From: Duval, Dominique To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 12:09 PM Subject: [newbie] Error installing Linux Mandrake 7.0 During the install when it prompts me wether this is an install or and upgrade I get an error that no partitions could be found. How can I create partitions? I get this error very early during the setup (before I get into the graphical installer "Only the insane have strength enough to prosperOnly those who prosper truly judge what is sane"Dominique DuvalService Desk AgentGreat West Life Assurance Co.[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] uninstalling linux mandrake.
In a message dated 17-Oct-00 12:32:54 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: boot from a DOS disk, perform an fdisk /mbr and you will be back to square 1 Will this clear off my Win95 partition too, or just kill off the Linux one? no this kills lilo after this type fdisk and use the option to delete the non dos partition
Re: [newbie] network problems
Alex Haun wrote: I just installed Mandrake 7.1 on my system. At first, I installed over 7.0 to keep all of my preferences and such, but because of a recurring problem with the theme manager not changing the colors in the panel and in windows (whereas in root it would work fine) I decided to go ahead and do a clean install of 7.1. During the installation, I entered the same network info that I was using for 7.0 three days ago, yet after the install, when I boot into Linux, I have no internet access. I've tried tweaking around in netconf but it doesn't help. I have a 3com 3c905-B card and all the forums, etc say that particular card always works. The only thing I know to do is to reinstall 7.0, then upgrade to 7.1 on top of it (because the internet worked when I did that). BUT... when I do that, sometimes (seems random) the theme manager will not change the colors of the pager and the windows (such as the window color when you open the theme manager)... that's not hugely important, but it's really annoying. Also, reinstalling over and over takes FOREVER, since the size of 7.1 is greater than 7.0 (which is a good thing: ). Is there ANY way to get this working inside 7.1 without upgrading 7.0?? If upgrading is the best route (since networking always worked in 7.0) how can I give users the correct permissions so that the theme manager will work correctly? Thanks,Alex Haun You need to provide more information about how you have things configured, what services you have running, is this a cable connection, etc, etc. And please use plain text.
Re: [newbie] PPP Errors
On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Richard Davies wrote: HI everyone, I have just had to move due to work from Mandrake 7.0 to SuSE 7.0. Ever since this move I have not been able to dial out and connect as user but can dial and connect to the net as root. I presume that this is because I have done something stupid here and I don't know what. Any assistance will be greatly appreciated. When starting kppp as user I get the following message ERROR This kernel has no ppp support, neither compiled in nor via the kernel module loader. To solve this problem * contact your system administrator or * install a kernel with ppp support OK Click on OK and it then throws the following error message ERROR pppd is not properly installed! The pppd binary must be installed with SUID bit set. Contract your system administrator OK Running as root I get none of this it just connects and runs perfectly but I don't want to be connected to the net as root. The file ownership and permissions originally for pppd were owner root group dialout rwxr-xr-- I have changed them to rwxr-xr-x and set the SUID bit. (I presume that adding myself to the group dialout would have achieved the same effect as adding execute permission for others) I no longer get the second error message when running as user but I still get the no ppp support and can't connect to the net. Hi.. I got over this by using wvdial...I understand there is a glitch on the kpp dialout as a user..There has been quite a few mails about this on the suse -e list... Regards Ted Packetmail :- g3tpi@gb7wfs.#25.gbr.eu Email :- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mandrake Linux
Re: [newbie] Error installing Linux Mandrake 7.0
Paul Hefferan wrote: Does your BIOS see the hard drive you are trying to install to? Is there already an OS on the drive and working? - Original Message - From:Duval, Dominique To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 12:09 PM Subject: [newbie] Error installing Linux Mandrake 7.0 During the install when it prompts me wether this is an install or and upgrade I get an error that no partitions could be found. How can I create partitions? I get this error very early during the setup (before I get into the graphical installer -- Dominique, This is *exactly* where I get stuck. I have Win98 on the Hdrive which I want to wipe out. Hope someone can help. Simon Martin London Uk PGP KEY ID 0x1C6F4419> @ http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/> *Please note my e-mail address is now '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'*
[newbie] Can't install Mandrake 7.0
Dear List, Im hoping some kind soul will help me with this... Im a Mac user so keep it simple;-))) Im attempting to install Mandrake 7.0 on an old Compaq. I start up with the boot floppy that came with the Mandrake pack, I also have CD disk one in the CD drive. The machine boots on the floppy Ok. It then says: boot: Loading CDrom.rdz.. Loading vmlinuz... (wait) Initializing CD rom In second stage install (wait) I am then asked to choose a language (I choose Uk English and hit return) I then choose the recommended install and hit return I then choose to Install rather than Upgrade and hit return I then get an error message saying An error occurred, No available partitions I have not formatted the hard drive yet, Im expecting to be given that option in the next window. I am *not* wanting a dual boot system, Linux only!! Any ideas? Many thanks Simon Martin London Uk -- Simon Martin London Uk PGP KEY ID 0x1C6F4419 @ http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/ *Please note my e-mail address is now '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'*
RE: [newbie] Error installing Linux Mandrake 7.0
The bios detects the hard drive and so does linux (when the install initializes everything. Win98 was on the drive before It wa formated, now there is jst a win95 system (to boot to C: prompt) -Original Message-From: Paul Hefferan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 12:40 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [newbie] Error installing Linux Mandrake 7.0 Does your BIOS see the hard drive you are trying to install to? Is there already an OS on the drive and working? - Original Message - From: Duval, Dominique To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 12:09 PM Subject: [newbie] Error installing Linux Mandrake 7.0 During the install when it prompts me wether this is an install or and upgrade I get an error that no partitions could be found. How can I create partitions? I get this error very early during the setup (before I get into the graphical installer Only the insane have strength enough to prosperOnly those who prosper truly judge what is saneDominique DuvalService Desk AgentGreat West Life Assurance Co.[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [newbie] Can't install Mandrake 7.0
Title: RE: [newbie] Can't install Mandrake 7.0 SAme problem I'm having exactly the same. -Original Message- From: Simon Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 1:08 PM To: Mandrake send, Mandrake send Subject: [newbie] Can't install Mandrake 7.0 Dear List, I'm hoping some kind soul will help me with this... I'm a Mac user so keep it simple;-))) I'm attempting to install Mandrake 7.0 on an old Compaq. I start up with the boot floppy that came with the Mandrake pack, I also have CD disk one in the CD drive. The machine boots on the floppy Ok. It then says: boot: Loading CDrom.rdz.. Loading vmlinuz... (wait) Initializing CD rom In second stage install (wait) I am then asked to choose a language (I choose Uk English and hit return) I then choose the 'recommended install' and hit return I then choose to 'Install' rather than 'Upgrade' and hit return I then get an error message saying "An error occurred, No available partitions" I have not formatted the hard drive yet, I'm expecting to be given that option in the next window. I am *not* wanting a dual boot system, Linux only!! Any ideas? Many thanks Simon Martin London Uk -- Simon Martin London Uk PGP KEY ID 0x1C6F4419 @ http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/ *Please note my e-mail address is now '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'*
Re: [newbie] Screen shots?
http://www.mozillazine.org/screenshots/ have fun --- "Kelly, Christopher" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody have any Mozilla screen shots? Thanks, Chris Kelly Registered Linux user 185775 __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] Re: ? Arkeia backup utility
paddock wrote: Hi -- I started with an idea from Linux Gazette for doing "tar" backups to disk, and expanded it so it makes one weekly "full" backup and then daily incrementals. The tar files have the same name as the base (not "root" in Linux, thank you!) of the directory tree which they backup. This makes identification and retrieval easier. I do the "system" side, which is everything but /home (and /var which is too volatile anyway), and then one directory for each of the users in /home. The scheme means that a maximum of 7 restore operations will completely restore the system to its condition at last backup. I've used the full backups to restore my /home directory; fortunately I haven't had to restore from the incrementals, yet, but it "oughta" work... The scripts are most likely lacking many forms of subtle *nix tricks, but I'm a recovering DOS/OS2/Windoesn't fool. Actually, I'd like some critiques and some pointers like "Well, you can do *this* better like this:..." If anyone's interested, I'll be happy to mail the scripts off-list. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I hope you and yours are prospering! --Paddock --- Registered Linux user 190974 ( 2000-Oct-05 ). Paddock: I for one would like to try your scripts. Would you e-mail them to me? Have a nice day. Charles
Re: [newbie] Problems with wheel mouse
AF1 wrote: I've installed LM 7.1 and everything works fine except my mouse! Instead a pointer I only see a white square :-(( What can I do? My mouse as two buttons and a wheel (Intellimouse compatible). I've tried change the type of the mouse in Drakconf but it don't change! Some help, please! AF AFtry adding the following line to the pointer section of your /etc/X11/XF86Config file: Option"sw_cursor" -- MandrakeSoft Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Altadena, CA USA --Alan
Re: [newbie] Problems with wheel mouse
AF1 wrote: I've installed LM 7.1 and everything works fine except my mouse! Instead a pointer I only see a white square :-(( What can I do? My mouse as two buttons and a wheel (Intellimouse compatible). I've tried change the type of the mouse in Drakconf but it don't change! Some help, please! AF AFtry adding the following line to the pointer section of your /etc/X11/XF86Config file: Option"sw_cursor" -- MandrakeSoft Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Altadena, CA USA --Alan
Re: [newbie] Can't install Mandrake 7.0
I have not formatted the hard drive yet, Im expecting to be given that option in the next window. I am *not* wanting a dual boot system, Linux only!! Any ideas? Yes, run fdisk and delete all existing partitions. Then repeat the steps you've described. My guess is that your hard drive has a single DOS partition and LM install doesn't like to overwrite hallowed Windows ground. Cheers --- Larry
RE: [newbie] Can't install Mandrake 7.0
Title: RE: [newbie] Can't install Mandrake 7.0 I tried doing fdisk and leaving no partition no help -Original Message- From: Larry Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 2:09 PM To: Simon Martin Cc: Mandrake send, Mandrake send Subject: Re: [newbie] Can't install Mandrake 7.0 This message uses a character set that is not supported by the Internet Service. To view the original message content, open the attached message. If the text doesn't display correctly, save the attachment to disk, and then open it using a viewer that can display the original character set.
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.1 S3 Trio 3D
Iagoba wrote: Hello again I was trying to Install Mandrake 7.1 in my job's computer, (I wanted show the Linux excelences to my boss), and I ever got the same problem, when I'm configuring the X Server, when I try to test the resolution mode the instalation crash! the window appears black and never returns to the instalation, I'm installing it in an: IBM PC 300GL with 64MB Ram, S3 Trio 3D Integrated in the motherboard with 4MB, HD 2 GB for linux and 2GB for W98 and one Ethernet ne2000 compatible. I read that this video card is incompatible with linux, how could I configure X then? perhaps like Standard SVGA? or VGA? I can't install other Video Card, (is my job's computer, my boss don't let me do that), Some help could be very very GREAT FANTASTIC! Iagoba Iagobawhich xserver did you choose during the installation? The reason I ask is I've seen the behavior you describe when installing the 4.0 beta server. If you are using it then perhaps you'll have better luck with the 3.3.6 server. -- MandrakeSoft Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Altadena, CA USA --Alan
[newbie] no sound
i have installed mandrake 7.1 on an IBM 300pl desktop P3 550mhz PC it has no soundcard but has the onboard crystal sound chip. Mandrake cant see the sound chip and hence no sound. is the only option a soundcard or does linux support it but i havnt got it set up correctly chederz
Re: [newbie] clock in title-bar
John Hendrickx wrote: Is there a clock program that will display the time in a digital form in the title-bar of the active window? I want to autohide the panel and taskbar but I still want to know the time (without removing my left hand from the keyboard, rotating my wrist, sliding back my sleeve, and looking at my wristwatch). I'm thinking of something along the lines of "superclock" for older versions of MacOS (pre 7.5 I think) or "barclock 4.2" for Windows by Atomic Dog (no longer supported). I want the clock in the titlebar of the active window, so it has to be digital, and I'm too stingy to grant screen real estate to a separate app (since I'm auto-hiding the panel anyway ...). Any tips? Advance Thanks, John Hendrickx __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ Johntry either: xclock or asclock -- MandrakeSoft Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Altadena, CA USA --Alan
RE: [newbie] Mandrake 7.1 S3 Trio 3D
Title: RE: [newbie] Mandrake 7.1 S3 Trio 3D we had the same problem on an IBM 300PL with the same video card, you need to use the Xfree86 server for VGA not SVGA and it will work fine, or do what we did we set it up with the SVGA server but ran VNC on it and attached to it remotely -Original Message- From: Alan Shoemaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 2:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Mandrake 7.1 S3 Trio 3D Iagoba wrote: Hello again I was trying to Install Mandrake 7.1 in my job's computer, (I wanted show the Linux excelences to my boss), and I ever got the same problem, when I'm configuring the X Server, when I try to test the resolution mode the instalation crash! the window appears black and never returns to the instalation, I'm installing it in an: IBM PC 300GL with 64MB Ram, S3 Trio 3D Integrated in the motherboard with 4MB, HD 2 GB for linux and 2GB for W98 and one Ethernet ne2000 compatible. I read that this video card is incompatible with linux, how could I configure X then? perhaps like Standard SVGA? or VGA? I can't install other Video Card, (is my job's computer, my boss don't let me do that), Some help could be very very GREAT FANTASTIC! Iagoba Iagobawhich xserver did you choose during the installation? The reason I ask is I've seen the behavior you describe when installing the 4.0 beta server. If you are using it then perhaps you'll have better luck with the 3.3.6 server. -- MandrakeSoft Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Altadena, CA USA --Alan
Re: [newbie] Error installing Linux Mandrake 7.0
"Duval, Dominique" wrote: During the install when it prompts me wether this is an install or and upgrade I get an error that no partitions could be found. How can I create partitions? I get this error very early during the setup (before I get into the graphical installer "Only the insane have strength enough to prosper Only those who prosper truly judge what is sane" Dominique Duval Service Desk Agent Great West Life Assurance Co. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dominiqueis there a removable media IDE (or scsi) device that has no media in it at the time you are installing. If so maybe the installer is seeing that device and erroring on it. Does the error applet have a choice to skip the drive. If so, use it. -- MandrakeSoft Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Altadena, CA USA --Alan
RE: [newbie] no sound
IBM has drivers for linux on there website, my 300PL works fine same sound chip but its a PII 400MHZ machine -Original Message- From: David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 2:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] no sound i have installed mandrake 7.1 on an IBM 300pl desktop P3 550mhz PC it has no soundcard but has the onboard crystal sound chip. Mandrake cant see the sound chip and hence no sound. is the only option a soundcard or does linux support it but i havnt got it set up correctly chederz
Re: [newbie] Can't install Mandrake 7.0
Title: RE: [newbie] Can't install Mandrake 7.0 When you ran fdisk did you create any partitions? You need to have an existing partition table for the LM installer to work from. When you fdisk you need to create (and set active) a primary partition. You may also create an extended partition if you like. You need to reboot after running fdisk and creating a partition. - Original Message - From: Duval, Dominique To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' ; Simon Martin Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 3:13 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] Can't install Mandrake 7.0 I tried doing fdisk and leaving no partition no help -Original Message- From: Larry Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 2:09 PM To: Simon Martin Cc: Mandrake send, Mandrake send Subject: Re: [newbie] Can't install Mandrake 7.0 This message uses a character set that is not supported by the Internet Service. To view the original message content, open the attached message. If the text doesn't display correctly, save the attachment to disk, and then open it using a viewer that can display the original character set.
Re: [newbie] no sound
David, I had a similar problem with an onboard chip on an ASUS board. Go to the Mandrake website, click on the HardDrake link (under the curly-haired penguin) there are 4 rpm's to download and install detect-xxx and harddrake itself. You will also need the alsa rpm. Load these and then run harddrake. This should find your sound chip and allow you to configure it - worked for me. A couple of notes: 1) try the existing harddrake - you might get lucky, but I couldn't install anything with it. 2) on at least one installation there was some sort of problem with doing this, and the owner could not get the new harddrake to run - not sure what the problem was. Give it a whirl - worked like a champ for me, and my sound chip is not listed as one of the supported chips. Kevin
RE: [newbie] Error installing Linux Mandrake 7.0
Title: RE: [newbie] Error installing Linux Mandrake 7.0 Ok first I should of mentionned this is a hitachi notebook (MX133T) The only thing that is removable is the hardrive/floppy drive and the pcmcia cards there are no cards installed. When I get the setup program to detect them it detects none, The hardrive must be removable but not easily. Both the cdrom and diskette drive owrk and are detected fine. The cdrom is IDE and is the primary slave on th notebook. There is no option to skip the drive but I do skip the detection of pcmcia devices as it generates and error. -Original Message- From: Alan Shoemaker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 2:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Error installing Linux Mandrake 7.0 Duval, Dominique wrote: During the install when it prompts me wether this is an install or and upgrade I get an error that no partitions could be found. How can I create partitions? I get this error very early during the setup (before I get into the graphical installer Only the insane have strength enough to prosper Only those who prosper truly judge what is sane Dominique Duval Service Desk Agent Great West Life Assurance Co. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dominiqueis there a removable media IDE (or scsi) device that has no media in it at the time you are installing. If so maybe the installer is seeing that device and erroring on it. Does the error applet have a choice to skip the drive. If so, use it. -- MandrakeSoft Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Altadena, CA USA --Alan
[newbie] I cannot see my network card!
I just install the mandrake, but I cannot see the network card. How can I configurate my card. I know the card have irq # but I doesn't how to configure! Thanks. David -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze
RE: [newbie] Can't install Mandrake 7.0
I did create a partition. and made it active. -Original Message- From: Paul Hefferan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 2:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Can't install Mandrake 7.0 When you ran fdisk did you create any partitions? You need to have an existing partition table for the LM installer to work from. When you fdisk you need to create (and set active) a primary partition. You may also create an extended partition if you like. You need to reboot after running fdisk and creating a partition. - Original Message - From: Duval, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Dominique To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' mailto:'[EMAIL PROTECTED]' ; Simon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Martin Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 3:13 PM Subject: RE: [newbie] Can't install Mandrake 7.0 I tried doing fdisk and leaving no partition no help -Original Message- From: Larry Marshall [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 2:09 PM To: Simon Martin Cc: Mandrake send, Mandrake send Subject: Re: [newbie] Can't install Mandrake 7.0 This message uses a character set that is not supported by the Internet Service. To view the original message content, open the attached message. If the text doesn't display correctly, save the attachment to disk, and then open it using a viewer that can display the original character set.
[newbie] xfce question
This is a dumb question, but I have not found the answer yet. I am exploring the xfce window manager. Looks good so far. However I am having the following problems: 1. I have added an icon on the panel for kppp which I had previously configured in kde. It starts up fine and dials fine in xfce. Problem is I do not know how to hangup! The only I presently do it in xfce is by switching the modem off. Although the kppp window remains on screen there seems to be nowhere on it (in xfce) to hang it up. Trying to close it does not work either. Is there a different ppp to use in xfce? 2. In trying things out I clicked on a button labelled "Gnome Panel" and it started up the Gnome Panel at the bottom of the screen. Again no way to undo that! Re-clicking on the same button asks me if I want a second copy of the gnome panel. I am sure the answerrs are very obvious but not to me. Help! Thanks. -- Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User 348854
Re: [newbie] DHCP, Pump commands and Cable Modem Setup
"Thomas F. RuBane" wrote: Hi Roman All: I'm using Mandrake 7.1 (With an automatic install) and a Netgear 310tx which is a tulip chipset compatible card. My DSL service uses DHCP, but I haven't gotten that working either. I entered all the information manually (I checked using winipcfg the get the info). I have installed the dhcp-client. Previously, linux would recognize eth0, but I could not get it up using ifconfig. I did a reinstall of linux, and now doing ifconfig -a will not even show that there is an eth0 interface. snip Have you set the NIC to use dhclient?
Re: [newbie] WOW, Mozilla M18
The nightly builds tend to be even better than the milestones and far better than the Netscape previews. The build I'm using is as great. It's progressing so fast now that it's really interesting to watch. Like seeing a building go up. *^*^*^* Have the courage to take your own thoughts seriously, for they will shape you. -- Albert Einstein On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Anthony wrote: Is it just me or has there been major improvment from M11 to M18. The earliest version I tested was M17 and M18 is definitely better than M17 so I would assume it's also better than M11 Yes, the builds have been steady getting better. I've downloaded everyone since M13 on, and each new release just builds upon itself. why oh why did they change the GUI to look more like netscape I actually liked the M17 GUI. After using M18 for less than an hour I made some dumb statements here about it being too "Netscape-like". Is it possible that you've got it set up with the "classic" theme, which is very NS-like? If so, simply switch to "modern" and I think you'll be happier. Thanks so much for pointing that out! I hate the Netscape Classic look, I've always thought Netscape was a very ugly browser. But I love the Modern and Blue look, and before I knew you could change that, I stuck with Netscape6PR3 because I couldn't stand looking at that Classic Netscape. Anyone think I'm nuts about M18 running good? Seems real good to me. I've been surprised by the stability which IS much better than Opera. I also really like Mozilla. It's so much better than that crap known as Netscape 4.x. It won't be too much longer before it's finally out of beta and it has it's real "official" release. -- Anthony http://binaryfusion.net Computers are not intelligent. They only think they are.
Re: [newbie] Linux/Networking/Firewall
I'm not sure I understand your question, but what if you use a Linksys BEFSR41 router as your firewall? Then connect the various computers to the router. Will that work? (I'm not into any computer games outside of the occasional solitaire or Windows Pinball (really well done, I think!)) But I do have the router, and you can set it up to stealth (hide) your computer completely! (You need the latest software from the net.) And it's easy. Even I can do it! --doug, wa2say At 10:09 10/16/2000 -0700, someone wrote: Hoping for some help here: I previously had the following setup within my network at my residence. 1 Linux box w/ 2 NIC cards. 1 connected to the DSL modem, and 1 to a HUB where other computers throughout the house are connected. I configured NIC 1 for the IP address given to me by my DSL provider, and configured the other NIC for the private network IP range 196.168.x.x. Next I configured IP Forwarding and Masquerading, and alas had everything set up and working perfectly. Some online games won't allow duplicate IP addresses to be seen on the game server, and as all computers within my private net were sharing the 1 IP address provided by the DSL provider, only one computer at a time to could be gaming. I've recently acquired a different DSL package, which gives me 5 static IP address, so I should be able to configure my network as I hoped. Obviously, I could have just put all computers, and the DSL modem on my HUB and life would be good from a gaming perspective, however, I would very much like to have a firewall installed that helps protect against intruders. Under this scenario, I'd have to install a firewall on each PC to gain some protection...what a hassle. What I'd like to do is configure my Linux box like I had before, but replace the Private network with additional IP's that I gained. I tried setting this up, but fell short after realizing that Linux acting as a router can't route unless there are two different networks (IP sets) to route between. Since all my machines IP's belong to the same network (IP set), I can't "route" per se. What I came across were some HOWTO's on bridging+firewall. Essentially the bridge creates a virtual NIC that binds the two together, and I place the firewall (IPchains) on this virtual NIC. I configured it, set it up, and appear to be accomplishing my goal. The firewall stuff is working on every machine, and of course gaming is now a reality. In summary, my question is this. Is this the best/only approach I can take in setting up my environment? Is there a way to accomplish this by setting up my own route tables? The reason I ask is because when everything is "idle" on my network, I see blips on the DSL modem about every 3 seconds or so. I've narrowed it down to the bridge stuff, as I can bring the bridge down, and the blipping stops. I don't know what is happening, and I don't believe that the bridge is impacting performance much, still I don't know, so I thought I'd pose the question to the experts out there. Thanks in advance, Mark Wignall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] laser eye mice
Hi all- Does anyone use the laser eye mouse with their linux box ? If so what did you have to do to get it to work ? Also how do I correctly uninstall linux ? Im going to kill windoze and devote my entire drive to linux so I want to do it right. Thank you, Chronos.
Re: [newbie] Linux on Oracle
On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, A V Flinsch wrote: On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, you wrote: hi all, thnaks for your help I am an Oracle DBA and so far have worked only on WindowsNT. Now i am trying to install Oracle8i (8.1.6) on Linux. I have got Linux Mandrake version 7.1 installed on a intel system. 300 MHz 64MB RAM The oracle Documentaion asks to create 4 mountpoints. One for the software and 3 for the database. I don't know if this is the right place to ask this question. No need to do this. I just created a /oracle mountpoint off of / and let the installer do it's stuff. a few words of advice - 1- the 8.1.6 installer has problems when running under kde. Do yourself a favor and use a different window manager for the install. 2 - when creating your database, allow dbassist to creat a script, then exit all window managers and run the script. The database creation phase of the install is very memory intensive, and can use all the ram you can get. 3 - go th http://www.orasoft.org and grab all of the goodies. Some good stuff there. -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life) The release notes say that a minimum of 128MB are required to install the Oracle product. Has anyone tried it with less?? -- D.M.(Mike) Mattix [EMAIL PROTECTED] (with a 128MB 200MHz Pentium to try this on...)
[newbie] info on building a kernel...
Hi list,
Before I get started could someone please pass me the cheese to go with my
wine?
That being said, I've been working on this getting this stupid kernel
recompiled to accomodate a Turtle Beach sound card for two stinkin weeks
and the darn thing continually bombs out on one error or another. If its
not choking on imaginary bad code, then it's telling me that something
else is wrong somewhere. It doesn't seem to matter "how" I configure the
stinkin thing it always bombs out with an error.
The usual thing is a parsing error, or it says there's a '{' missing, or
there's a ')' missing, or even more bizare is the compiler error that I
got tonight. It doesn't matter if I'm trying to do a recompile of
2.2.16-9mdk, or a new config and compile of 2.2.17. The results are the
same. The compile bombs on an error. On the off chance that it does
compile without any errors and all the modules are made and installed then
the damn thing doesn't work right and there are a few things that just
don't work on the system. pppd for one and the other that really knots my
shorts is the friggin sound. The whole reason I'm torturing myself in the
first place.
So, what I really need is some in depth documentation that will cover, in
explanitory fashion, the compiler errors that gcc gives and what to do and
how to do "good" compilations of these darn kernels. As I write this I'm
preparing to torture myself some more by downloading kernel 2.4test9. I
don't know why I'm even thinking I'm going to get it to work. It'll
probably bomb like the rest of these. Frankly I don't know how others are
getting them to compile and work!
thanks for letting me rant. I'm done now.
--
Mark
/* I never worry about the to-jams.
* Once I've stuck my foot in my mouth
* it's already too late...just make sure
* you chew them thoroughly before swallowing!
*/
Registered Linux user #182496
* Pine 4.21 *
Re: [newbie] laser eye mice
to correctly uninstall linux delete it from the partition that is the only method currently available, use fdisk since your deleting windows as type fdisk /mbr this kills lillo or grub makes things a little easier when you re install linux, then type fdisk now using the menu choices available delete all partitions, reboot your computer with the install disk, or if you are using mandrake just reboot from the disk when it gets to how you want to partition the drive click on all partitions and click on delete, now auto allocate, or you can choose to allocate your own way
Re: [newbie] Opera Beta
I'm not sure I understand what you mean about the bookmarks. I've found the operation of Mozilla M18 to be pretty fair considering that it's not a finished product yet. As far as performance goes it's almost as fast and stable as Netscape 4.75. While it still doesn't handle Java yet it is far less of a resource hog than it had been just a few weeks ago. You can really tell the difference from M17 to M18. The amount of memory that it takes to start and run M18 has been reduced dramatically. I'm really looking forward to seeing what Mozilla looks like once the project is finished. I suspect that if the developers continue on the same road they're currently on and at their present pace Mozilla will be much faster and lighter than Netscape has been in a long time. Bookmarks??? I thought they handled just fine. When I'm cleaning them up and placing them in seperate folders I usually just cut and paste them from one place to another. That's the same as I've always done with them though. If I understand what you're saying it sounds a lot like the way IE4 and IE5 handle bookmarks. -- Mark /* I never worry about the to-jams. * Once I've stuck my foot in my mouth * it's already too late...just make sure * you chew them thoroughly before swallowing! */ Registered Linux user #182496 * Pine 4.21 * On Sun, 15 Oct 2000 11:33pm ,Larry Marshall spake passionately in a message: Gecko engine. Personlly I'm going to by-pass Netscape 6 all togther and when MoZilla is ready I'm going to use it. It's much nicer than Netscape 4.7x and superior to Netscape 6. They're using the same base code but the Mark...maybe I've got blinders on but what is "much nicer than Netscape 4.7x"? To me it seems JUST like Netscape in function. Speaking of which, is it just my lack of imagination or has Mozilla gone backwards in how it lets you handle getting a new URL into your bookmarks? Like Nutscape you can't change the name of it but unlike Nutscape it doesn't seem to even let you target a folder to hold it. Am I missing something? I have to agree with you about Opera though. It's clear that it's an early beta and not a tool to depend on yet. Cheers --- Larry
RE: [newbie] DHCP, Pump commands and Cable Modem Setup
On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Thomas F. RuBane wrote: Hi Roman All: I'm using Mandrake 7.1 (With an automatic install) and a Netgear 310tx which is a tulip chipset compatible card. My DSL service uses DHCP, but I haven't gotten that working either. I entered all the information manually (I checked using winipcfg the get the info). I have installed the dhcp-client. Previously, linux would recognize eth0, but I could not get it up using ifconfig. I did a reinstall of linux, and now doing ifconfig -a will not even show that there is an eth0 interface. I've tried using Drakconfig going to the hardware configuration dialog. it shows a network card is installed, but warns that it is already configured when I try and configure it. I recognize the benefits of Unix Linux - that's why I'm trying to get it up running. But I have to admit Windows still is easier to configure in some respects. Thanks for any help, Tom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Romanator Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 3:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] DHCP, Pump commands and Cable Modem Setup Hello Tom, You'll need the following: For example: Host name: cr123543-b Subdomain address: myarea.state.wave.home.com IP address: xx.xxx.xxx.xx Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0 Gateway address: xx.xxx.xxx.xx Broadcast: xx.xxx.xxx.xxx Network: xx.xxx.xxx.x And: 1. Which version of Linux are you using? 2. What type of netwrok card are you using i.e. 3c905c ? -- Roman Registered Linux User #179293 Tom, Go into Network Configuration. It is an option on DrakeConfig. The problem is that the automatic install does not configure your network card. I only have the text mode version working on the system I am currently running but the GUI version has a tabbed interface. You must click on the adapter 1 tab and enable that adapter, then select DHCP also in the same tab and you should be on your way. I saw Larry's post about PPPoE and it just depends on what your DSL service is offering evidently not all offer PPPoE... -- D.M.(Mike) Mattix [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] OT / Penguin dance!
That's interesting...I've never seen a hamster dance before. -- Mark /* I never worry about the to-jams. * Once I've stuck my foot in my mouth * it's already too late...just make sure * you chew them thoroughly before swallowing! */ Registered Linux user #182496 * Pine 4.21 * On Sat, 14 Oct 2000 8:18pm ,Greg Stewart spake passionately in a message: That might have been the plug in it wanted (I was using Netscape 6pre3-and it complained). No big deal--I couldn't even hear the music 'cause I don't have a sound card in my linux box., but it won't kill me. I did save some of the dancing penguin gifs, I think they'll make good pals for the dancing hamsters on a personal webpage. :-) --Greg - Original Message - From: "Goldenpi" [EMAIL PROTECTED] What plugin? I took those sites apart once and found they just use animated gifs. Some of them wand a windows media player pluging or javascript for sound, but thats about it. That was a while ago, it might have changed since. - Original Message - From: "Greg Stewart" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] OT / Penguin dance! It's HampsterDance with Penguins!Of course, when I tried it with my windows machine, the damned thing went blue screen...rather typical...was that supposed to happen with the "plug in" required? --Greg - Original Message - From: "Mike Tracy Holt" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anybody have a co-worker that loves windows? Take 'em to this site: http://nuttysites.com/penguin/ Mike __ Vous avez un site perso ? 2 millions de francs à gagner sur i(france) ! Webmasters : ZE CONCOURS ! http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/concours.emailif __ Vous avez un site perso ? 2 millions de francs à gagner sur i(france) ! Webmasters : ZE CONCOURS ! http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/concours.emailif
Re: [newbie] Portsentry traps
A good start would be to report them to your ISP. -- Mark /* I never worry about the to-jams. * Once I've stuck my foot in my mouth * it's already too late...just make sure * you chew them thoroughly before swallowing! */ Registered Linux user #182496 * Pine 4.21 * On Sun, 15 Oct 2000 11:43pm ,John Rye spake passionately in a message: During the past five days Portsentry has reported several probes on port 1080 along with some DNS information. I understand this is the Socks Proxy port. Without disclosing (at this time) the origin of these probes, could someone advise me on how (or if) I should deal with/to them? Also, out of this, does anyone remember the 'Flint' movies from the 60's - I'm interested in getting hold of the alarm sound which was used. I think it may have been used in other spy spoofs but can't remember which. I'd like to use that as my Portsentry alarm signal. Cheers
Re: [newbie] Portsentry traps
Definately! I'm all ears...rather I'm all eyes since I can't see with my ears. My wife would tell you that when I'm sitting in front of this monitor I can't hear with my ears either! :) -- Mark /* I never worry about the to-jams. * Once I've stuck my foot in my mouth * it's already too late...just make sure * you chew them thoroughly before swallowing! */ Registered Linux user #182496 * Pine 4.21 * On Mon, 16 Oct 2000 7:00am ,John Rye spake passionately in a message: Greg Stewart wrote: Portsentry usually adds the offending host IP to the route tables, but this isn't always the best option anymore. you can change the KILL_ROUTE command in /usr/local/psionic/portsentry/portsentry.conf to the following and it will add the host IP to your ipchains rules (if you're using ipchains--which, really, you should be): KILL_ROUTE="/sbin/ipchains -I input -s $TARGET$ -j DENY" If you still want these probes logged, add "-l" (lower-case "L") to the line before the last quotation mark.With this rule added to your ipchains, all hits from that host will be dropped regardless of type. Hopefully portsentry is not the only protection you have against intruders. It's a great utility, but not complete enough on it's own to rely on. I'm well protected.. using ipchains, I already have your suggestion setup. It was more a question of whether one should attempt to 'deal to' the offender. I used to be continually probed when I used ICQ and Jammer on that other opsys, and had some good results by attacking the source-site owner, but those were not of this type. ?? What/why would a socks proxy port port be probed ?? Suggestions and further discussion might be useful to other list members. Cheers
Re: [newbie] Linux on Oracle
On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, you wrote: The release notes say that a minimum of 128MB are required to install the Oracle product. Has anyone tried it with less?? I had 8.1.5 running on a machine with 96M. I did have to upgrade to 128M to do the install however. Once installed, it ran acceptably in 96M. I did not try running in anything less than 96. -- D.M.(Mike) Mattix [EMAIL PROTECTED] (with a 128MB 200MHz Pentium to try this on...) The machine I installed 8.1.6 on was a P III 450 with 128M. The install took a bit over an hour, database creation took about 3 hours. -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
Re: [newbie] Problems with wheel mouse
AF1 wrote: I've installed LM 7.1 and everything works fine except my mouse! Instead a pointer I only see a white square :-(( What can I do? My mouse as two buttons and a wheel (Intellimouse compatible). I've tried change the type of the mouse in Drakconf but it don't change! For the square cursor bit, you could add the following to your XF86Config file under the graphics device section-- no sw_cursor As to the wheel mouse, look in www.linuxbrit.co.uk under the GNUlinux tips page...there's something there Rgds
Re: [newbie] OT / Penguin dance!
You know... I actually went looking for the original "Hampster Dance" site today and I couldn't find it for BEANS!!! Finally, though, tonite I stumbled on the second incarnation of the site at: http://www.hampsterdance2.com/hampsterdance2.html It's got a revamped techno-pop theme song, but the same cute "hampsters" (minus one). The original is on the following page at the same address: http://www.hampsterdance2.com/hampsterdance.html And, please don't yell at me fer stickin' a 'p' in where it don't belong...t'weren't my idea! --Greg - Original Message - From: "Mark Weaver" [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's interesting...I've never seen a hamster dance before. -- Mark /* I never worry about the to-jams. * Once I've stuck my foot in my mouth * it's already too late...just make sure * you chew them thoroughly before swallowing! */ Registered Linux user #182496 * Pine 4.21 * On Sat, 14 Oct 2000 8:18pm ,Greg Stewart spake passionately in a message: That might have been the plug in it wanted (I was using Netscape 6pre3-and it complained). No big deal--I couldn't even hear the music 'cause I don't have a sound card in my linux box., but it won't kill me. I did save some of the dancing penguin gifs, I think they'll make good pals for the dancing hamsters on a personal webpage. :-) --Greg - Original Message - From: "Goldenpi" [EMAIL PROTECTED] What plugin? I took those sites apart once and found they just use animated gifs. Some of them wand a windows media player pluging or javascript for sound, but thats about it. That was a while ago, it might have changed since. - Original Message - From: "Greg Stewart" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] OT / Penguin dance! It's HampsterDance with Penguins!Of course, when I tried it with my windows machine, the damned thing went blue screen...rather typical...was that supposed to happen with the "plug in" required? --Greg - Original Message - From: "Mike Tracy Holt" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anybody have a co-worker that loves windows? Take 'em to this site: http://nuttysites.com/penguin/ Mike __ Vous avez un site perso ? 2 millions de francs à gagner sur i(france) ! Webmasters : ZE CONCOURS ! http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/concours.emailif __ Vous avez un site perso ? 2 millions de francs à gagner sur i(france) ! Webmasters : ZE CONCOURS ! http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/concours.emailif __ Vous avez un site perso ? 2 millions de francs à gagner sur i(france) ! Webmasters : ZE CONCOURS ! http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/concours.emailif
Re: [newbie] info on building a kernel...
Mark Weaver wrote:
Hi list,
Before I get started could someone please pass me the cheese to go with my
wine?
That being said, I've been working on this getting this stupid kernel
recompiled to accomodate a Turtle Beach sound card for two stinkin weeks
and the darn thing continually bombs out on one error or another. If its
not choking on imaginary bad code, then it's telling me that something
else is wrong somewhere. It doesn't seem to matter "how" I configure the
stinkin thing it always bombs out with an error.
The usual thing is a parsing error, or it says there's a '{' missing, or
there's a ')' missing, or even more bizare is the compiler error that I
got tonight. It doesn't matter if I'm trying to do a recompile of
2.2.16-9mdk, or a new config and compile of 2.2.17. The results are the
same. The compile bombs on an error. On the off chance that it does
compile without any errors and all the modules are made and installed then
the damn thing doesn't work right and there are a few things that just
don't work on the system. pppd for one and the other that really knots my
shorts is the friggin sound. The whole reason I'm torturing myself in the
first place.
So, what I really need is some in depth documentation that will cover, in
explanitory fashion, the compiler errors that gcc gives and what to do and
how to do "good" compilations of these darn kernels. As I write this I'm
preparing to torture myself some more by downloading kernel 2.4test9. I
don't know why I'm even thinking I'm going to get it to work. It'll
probably bomb like the rest of these. Frankly I don't know how others are
getting them to compile and work!
thanks for letting me rant. I'm done now.
--
Mark
/* I never worry about the to-jams.
* Once I've stuck my foot in my mouth
* it's already too late...just make sure
* you chew them thoroughly before swallowing!
*/
Registered Linux user #182496
* Pine 4.21 *
Mark
I was getting a heap of similar errors a while back, on whatever
I attempted to compile.
Check your RAM as a first step.
I had no end of trouble trying compile 2.2.17 - gave it away after
not being able to get several modules to compile with the same
kinds of errors, (missing punctuation characters, no end of line
in line xxx), and so on.
I haven't bothered to revisit.
Cheers
--
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"The number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected"
(The UNIX Programmer's Manual, 2nd Edition, June 1972.)
[newbie] Browsers
I have d/l'd Opera, Netscape 6, and Mozilla and find that I can not install Opera due to wrong architecture, and the other two flow like molasses in January. They are so slow to load anything that I feel like I have timewarped back to the good old dos days and booting with floppys etc. Anybody getting any better reaction from Net 6 or Moz? And has any one found the fix for the wrong architecture thingy in Opera? I have tried opera and Mozilla in Win 98 and like both of them even though they are twitchy and crash frequently. I hope that the final releases are better for speed in Linux than what I see now, or have I missed something in the install? Linux makes everything but the mozilla prog run faster so something is amiss. -- Dennis M. a registered Linux User #180842
Re: [newbie] Portsentry traps
My wife would tell you that when I'm sitting in front of this monitor I can't hear with my ears either! :) Hell, I'm so blind (and probably deaf, too) my co-workers think the only way I can see what's on a computer screen is by smelling the damned thing! --Greg - Original Message - From: "Mark Weaver" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Definately! I'm all ears...rather I'm all eyes since I can't see with my ears. My wife would tell you that when I'm sitting in front of this monitor I can't hear with my ears either! :) -- Mark /* I never worry about the to-jams. * Once I've stuck my foot in my mouth * it's already too late...just make sure * you chew them thoroughly before swallowing! */ Registered Linux user #182496 * Pine 4.21 * On Mon, 16 Oct 2000 7:00am ,John Rye spake passionately in a message: Greg Stewart wrote: Portsentry usually adds the offending host IP to the route tables, but this isn't always the best option anymore. you can change the KILL_ROUTE command in /usr/local/psionic/portsentry/portsentry.conf to the following and it will add the host IP to your ipchains rules (if you're using ipchains--which, really, you should be): KILL_ROUTE="/sbin/ipchains -I input -s $TARGET$ -j DENY" If you still want these probes logged, add "-l" (lower-case "L") to the line before the last quotation mark.With this rule added to your ipchains, all hits from that host will be dropped regardless of type. Hopefully portsentry is not the only protection you have against intruders. It's a great utility, but not complete enough on it's own to rely on. I'm well protected.. using ipchains, I already have your suggestion setup. It was more a question of whether one should attempt to 'deal to' the offender. I used to be continually probed when I used ICQ and Jammer on that other opsys, and had some good results by attacking the source-site owner, but those were not of this type. ?? What/why would a socks proxy port port be probed ?? Suggestions and further discussion might be useful to other list members. Cheers __ Vous avez un site perso ? 2 millions de francs à gagner sur i(france) ! Webmasters : ZE CONCOURS ! http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/concours.emailif
Re: [newbie] I cannot see my network card! new informatio!!
I know this message is about "I cannot see my network card!", but I must not be wearing my contacts 'cause I can't see the last reponse posted to the end (except for that "Get you free e-mail" thing!). Did someone type something in invisible ink? Or do I *really* need that eye transplant? Anyway, information such as the type of network card you are trying to install: make model. Internal LAN connection, or internet connection. DHCP or static IP? Also what have you tried so far? What application have you used to attempt this? These kinds of things, preferrably in a form [ I ] can actually see, and if you think about it a pretty picture would nice. :-) --Greg - Original Message - From: "David Dieguez" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] I cannot see my network card! David Dieguez wrote: I just install the mandrake, but I cannot see the network card. How can I configurate my card. I know the card have irq # but I doesn't how to configure! Thanks. David -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze You gotta give us more information than that. Waht kind of information is gonna help ?? -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze __ Vous avez un site perso ? 2 millions de francs à gagner sur i(france) ! Webmasters : ZE CONCOURS ! http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/concours.emailif
RE: [newbie] OT / Penguin dance!
I get a kick out of all of those! Here's what I did to my co-workers with it: Save the web page (they changed the format to java now so I'm not sure if it will still work) and then take the 'originaldedodedo.wav' - about a 9 second .wav - and use a wav editor to loop it for about an hour and finally burn it on a CD. Pop it into a CD player and crank up the volume. If (when) people start looking, just act like you don't know what the problem is... Mike ;) You know... I actually went looking for the original "Hampster Dance" site today and I couldn't find it for BEANS!!! Finally, though, tonite I stumbled on the second incarnation of the site at: http://www.hampsterdance2.com/hampsterdance2.html It's got a revamped techno-pop theme song, but the same cute "hampsters" (minus one). The original is on the following page at the same address: http://www.hampsterdance2.com/hampsterdance.html And, please don't yell at me fer stickin' a 'p' in where it don't belong...t'weren't my idea! --Greg - Original Message - From: "Mark Weaver" [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's interesting...I've never seen a hamster dance before. -- Mark /* I never worry about the to-jams. * Once I've stuck my foot in my mouth * it's already too late...just make sure * you chew them thoroughly before swallowing! */ Registered Linux user #182496 * Pine 4.21 * On Sat, 14 Oct 2000 8:18pm ,Greg Stewart spake passionately in a message: That might have been the plug in it wanted (I was using Netscape 6pre3-and it complained). No big deal--I couldn't even hear the music 'cause I don't have a sound card in my linux box., but it won't kill me. I did save some of the dancing penguin gifs, I think they'll make good pals for the dancing hamsters on a personal webpage. :-) --Greg - Original Message - From: "Goldenpi" [EMAIL PROTECTED] What plugin? I took those sites apart once and found they just use animated gifs. Some of them wand a windows media player pluging or javascript for sound, but thats about it. That was a while ago, it might have changed since. - Original Message - From: "Greg Stewart" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] OT / Penguin dance! It's HampsterDance with Penguins!Of course, when I tried it with my windows machine, the damned thing went blue screen...rather typical...was that supposed to happen with the "plug in" required? --Greg - Original Message - From: "Mike Tracy Holt" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anybody have a co-worker that loves windows? Take 'em to this site: http://nuttysites.com/penguin/ Mike ___ _ __ Vous avez un site perso ? 2 millions de francs à gagner sur i(france) ! Webmasters : ZE CONCOURS ! http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/concours.emailif ___ _ __ Vous avez un site perso ? 2 millions de francs à gagner sur i(france) ! Webmasters : ZE CONCOURS ! http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/concours.emailif ___ ___ Vous avez un site perso ? 2 millions de francs à gagner sur i(france) ! Webmasters : ZE CONCOURS ! http://www.ifrance.com/_reloc/concours.emailif
Re: [newbie] Browsers
On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Dennis Myers wrote: I have d/l'd Opera, Netscape 6, and Mozilla and find that I can not install Opera due to wrong architecture, and the other two flow like molasses in January. They are so slow to load anything that I feel like I have timewarped back to the good old dos days and booting with floppys etc. Anybody getting any better reaction from Net 6 or Moz? And has any one found the fix for the wrong architecture thingy in Opera? I have tried opera and Mozilla in Win 98 and like both of them even though they are twitchy and crash frequently. I hope that the final releases are better for speed in Linux than what I see now, or have I missed something in the install? Linux makes everything but the mozilla prog run faster so something is amiss. -- Dennis M. a registered Linux User #180842 Not that I know of. Just download the tar.gz and install it. (the only thing it installs is the opera application) It works just fine on V7.1 (2.2.15 Kernel) -- D.M.(Mike) Mattix [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] Acrobat install error
I'm trying to install Acrobat 4.0 from a 7.0 cd. After Installing platform dependent files I get the error "./INSTALL: ed: command not found" ERROR installing /usr/local/Acrobat4/bin/acroread. Anyone have any ideas, couldn't find anything in the archives. JT
Fwd: Re: [newbie] Browsers
On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Dennis Myers wrote: I have d/l'd Opera, Netscape 6, and Mozilla and find that I can not install Opera due to wrong architecture, and the other two flow like molasses in January. They are so slow to load anything that I feel like I have timewarped back to the good old dos days and booting with floppys etc. Anybody getting any better reaction from Net 6 or Moz? And has any one found the fix for the wrong architecture thingy in Opera? I have tried opera and Mozilla in Win 98 and like both of them even though they are twitchy and crash frequently. I hope that the final releases are better for speed in Linux than what I see now, or have I missed something in the install? Linux makes everything but the mozilla prog run faster so something is amiss. -- Dennis M. a registered Linux User #180842 Not that I know of. Just download the tar.gz and install it. (the only thing it installs is the opera application) It works just fine on V7.1 (2.2.15 Kernel) -- D.M.(Mike) Mattix [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
[newbie] Tracing Email Addresses
Can a trace (just as in traceroute) be placed on an email address as it goes about the Internet? Note: When you reply to this message, please include the mailing list and my email address. * Signed, SoloCDM
[newbie] DrakX halt while installing Linux-Mandrake 7.1 Deluxe on SONY PCG-SR9G/T notebook
Hi, I am trying hard to install Linux-Mandrake 7.1 Deluxe on my new notebook computer SONY PCG-SR9G/T with a 12.1GB harddisk. The best way I can do is installing from harddisk. I've made 7 subdirectories: disk1 .. disk7 on a spare partition d: and copied files from the 7 installation disks to the above 7 subdirectories by the "xcopy * /s" DOS command. Everything looks fine in DrakX until the "please wait, look for available packages" message appears. After this message disappeared, the installation program halt at the "install system" step. Nothing shown on the screen except those installation steps on the left side. I've also tried to use the text mode installation. The install program halt on the "Linux-Mandrake Installation Setup filesystems" screen. Only this title on the top and those function keys at the bottom are displayed. I've to reboot my notebook for both cases. Two pieces of information may be useful to diagnose the problem. First, when I used the text mode installation from harddisk, I got the following warning message: The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 1467. There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024, and could in certain setups cause problems with: 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., LILO) 2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK) Second, the Sony notebook has reserved about 500M on the harddisk for its own usage. The DOS fdisk command shows only 11507MB total disk space with 3828M for primary partition and 7680M for the extended partition. When I tried to use the auto allocation for swap and ext2 partition, the bars representing the first two FAT32 partitions shift unexpectedly. I've bypassed this problem by using FDISK to reallocate the partitions manually and changing the partition type to 'swap' and 'ext2' using the DrakX installation program. I wonder if the reserved space cause some calculation problem for the auto allocation and some other problems later on. FYI, it is a P-III 600 machine with 64M RAM. Thanks for your help. Lawrence Lee __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] Opera Beta
Bookmarks??? I thought they handled just fine. When I'm cleaning them up and placing them in seperate folders I usually just cut and paste them from one place to another. That's the same as I've always done with them Two things here Mark. First, I wrote that before I figured out that I can simply drag a URL from the URL window into any folder I want if I open the bookmark list in the tab bar. Read a msg today that says that right now you can't do that with the pulldown list but that you will ultimately be able to. though. If I understand what you're saying it sounds a lot like the way IE4 and IE5 handle bookmarks. Not at all. With IE you can not only choose what folder to put it in, you can see what got picked up from the html title block and change it if you want. All that cutting and pasting you're doing would drive me nuts. Too many bookmarks I suppose. Cheers --- Larry
RE: [newbie] DHCP, Pump commands and Cable Modem Setup
I saw Larry's post about PPPoE and it just depends on what your DSL service is offering evidently not all offer PPPoE... Really? What are the alternatives? I thought the main thing that was allowing DSL to become reasonably priced was the simple pppoe approach. I'm also one of the dumbest guys on the planet when it comes to networking :-) Cheers --- Larry
Re: [newbie] Browsers
"D.M. Mattix (Mike)" wrote: On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Dennis Myers wrote: I have d/l'd Opera, Netscape 6, and Mozilla and find that I can not install Opera due to wrong architecture, and the other two flow like molasses in January. They are so slow to load anything that I feel like I have timewarped back to the good old dos days and booting with floppys etc. Anybody getting any better reaction from Net 6 or Moz? And has any one found the fix for the wrong architecture thingy in Opera? I have tried opera and Mozilla in Win 98 and like both of them even though they are twitchy and crash frequently. I hope that the final releases are better for speed in Linux than what I see now, or have I missed something in the install? Linux makes everything but the mozilla prog run faster so something is amiss. -- Dennis M. a registered Linux User #180842 Not that I know of. Just download the tar.gz and install it. (the only thing it installs is the opera application) It works just fine on V7.1 (2.2.15 Kernel) -- D.M.(Mike) Mattix [EMAIL PROTECTED] That is exactly what I have 7.1 2.2.15 so what's up with my download, I have tried twice maybe a cleaning and re d/l, cause it sure won't install the way it is my having the wrong architecture and all. -- Dennis M. a registered Linux User #180842
Re: [newbie] Browsers
I have d/l'd Opera, Netscape 6, and Mozilla and find that I can not install Opera due to wrong architecture, and the other two flow like If you want to try this, download the tar file instead. I dont know what's going on with their rpms but you've bumped into what's a common problem there. molasses in January. They are so slow to load anything that I feel like I have timewarped back to the good old dos days and booting with floppys Haven't wasted my time with NS6.0. It's true that Mozilla loads slowly. Truthfully, most betas will load more slowly (often by a lot) than true releases as they're bloated with developer code. On the other hand, who cares when it comes to a browser. Load it, stick into one of your windows and leave it there. one found the fix for the wrong architecture thingy in Opera? I have See above. are twitchy and crash frequently. I hope that the final releases are better for speed in Linux than what I see now, or have I missed One of the things I see regularly is people's unfamiliarity with beta-test software, both in terms of expectations and interpretations. I guess it is pretty unique for most people working in Windows to see true beta-apps with all their trace code, dead code, etc. still hanging inside them. With Windows you get to beta-test after you buy it and the bloat there is more a matter of programming taste than anything else. something in the install? Linux makes everything but the mozilla prog run faster so something is amiss. Only your interpretation and expectations of beta software. Cheers --- Larry
