Re: [newbie-it] programmi
a me serviva per spezzare un file.mp3 contenente diverse canzoni, ma non conosco l'esatta dimensione di ogni canzone; altre possibilità? beh, la cosa è differente!! (non l'avevi mica detto.. :-) allora... converti il tuo mp3 in wav... lo carichi in un editor (che ti consente di vedere la forma d'onda, quindi le pause) [...] ecco quello che mi serve e` proprio un editor per musica; quale mi consigli di usare? __ MMS: prova i nuovi messaggi multimediali! http://mobile.lycos.it/mobile/local/mms/
Re: [newbie-it] ancora su emacs...
Sei sicuro che uno non sia emacs (quello verdino) e l'altro xemacs (la versione per X a sfondo bianco)? Se non mi sbaglio al momento 'emacs' e' un link simbolico a xemacs, se vuoi avviare quello testuale (un qualcosa di simile a emacs-x.x.x-nox) devi andarlo a cercare. Si sono sicuro di questo, quando apro xemacs mi trovo davanti un sistema diverso da emacs-20.7... Così per dare altre indicazioni posso dirti/vi che durante l'installazione di emacs 21.7, ad un certo punto prima di dare make install nella direcory in cui ho costruito il programma, le istruzione per l'installazione mi dicevamo di andare in una directory /src e provare a lanciare emacs per provare se funzionava correttamente. Ho fatto questo ed è apparso emacs 21.7 con lo stile verdino. Nella stessa directory c'era un altro link emacs-21.7 che faceva partire il programma con lo stile biancastro. Dopo di ciò ho dato make install e poi make clean perché così mi suggerivano le istruzioni. Qesto ultimo comando ha evidentemente cancellato i file superflui tra cui quei link di prova nella direcory src/ di cui ho parlato. Bene da allora in poi non sono più riuscito a far partire emacs 21.7 in stile verdino... perché come detto quando do emacs parte la versione 20.7 in verdino... Va beh non ti/vi tedio ulteriormente, in fondo il programma funziona, se in stile verdino o biancasto poco importa... Grazie di tutto
Re: [newbie-it] programmi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il 14:50, giovedì 13 giugno 2002, in merito a Re: [newbie-it] programmi, gigi pinna ha scritto: ecco quello che mi serve e` proprio un editor per musica; quale mi consigli di usare? snd mi pare buono, ma ho iniziato ad usarlo da poco .. comunque per fare quello che ti ho detto è perfetto http://www.xdt.com/ar/linux-snd/digital.shtml http://linux.oreillynet.com/pub/a/linux/2001/10/05/snd_partone.html http://linux.oreillynet.com/pub/a/linux/2001/10/18/snd_parttwo.html bye miKe __ Slackware 8 GNU/Linux 2.4.18 hp Xe3 R.U.#219755 - S.R.U.#705 - R.M.#110932 - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9CM4tF/9fksDJ4y0RAgTGAJsHVeE23/Hm0DKQ8/rLzJjbDJyNagCgg4Wx sfcwitRLwKH2qwhiO0Fivwk= =fuEA -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[newbie-it] DVD e xine
Un caldo saluto a tutta la lista. Ho da poco installato un lettore DVD sul mio desk. Lanciando xine, nelle migliori delle ipotesi riesco solo ad arrivare al menù del DVD. Dopo di chè lo schermo si annerisce o peggio xine 'muore' read_cache: read error (Input/output error) Segmentation fault Lanciando xine da konsole mi appare il seguente errore: . dvd_reader: opening /dev/dvd... dvd_reader: reset drive dvd_reader: authenticate drive DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00fd. Maybe region 2. dvd_reader: authenticate title GetTitleKey failed: Input/output error dvd_reader: decrypt title key... dvd_reader: encrypted get_VTS_TT called, testing!!! vtsN=2, vts_ttn=1 input_d5d: sending_button_update button=1 mode=0 .. xine_play: xine open dvdnav://:1, start pos = 0, start time = 0 (sec) libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.1 for DVD access DVD disk reports itself with Region mask 0x00fd. Maybe region 2. libdvdread: Attempting to retrieve all CSS keys libdvdread: This can take a _long_ time, please be patient libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.VOB at 0x0138 libdvdcss error: ioctl_ReadTitleKey failed libdvdread: Elapsed time 2 libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_0.VOB at 0x055a libdvdcss error: ioctl_ReadTitleKey failed libdvdread: Elapsed time 15 libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_1.VOB at 0x060c libdvdcss error: ioctl_ReadTitleKey failed libdvdread: Elapsed time 0 libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_02_0.VOB at 0x001f82ba libdvdcss error: ioctl_ReadTitleKey failed libdvdread: Elapsed time 0 libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_02_1.VOB at 0x001f82bf libdvdcss error: ioctl_ReadTitleKey failed libdvdread: Elapsed time 1 libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_03_0.VOB at 0x0021b25e libdvdcss error: ioctl_ReadTitleKey failed libdvdread: Elapsed time 0 libdvdread: Get key for /VIDEO_TS/VTS_03_1.VOB at 0x0021b263 libdvdcss error: ioctl_ReadTitleKey failed libdvdread: Elapsed time 0 libdvdread: Found 3 VTS's libdvdread: Elapsed time 18 get_VTS_TT called, testing!!! vtsN=3, vts_ttn=3 DVD Title: L'Inglese DVD Serial Number: be3f768c DVD Title (Alternative): L'Inglese get_VTS_TT called, testing!!! vtsN=1, vts_ttn=1 xine: using input plugin NAV for this MRL (dvdnav://). using input plugin 'NAV' for MRL 'dvdnav://' demux_mpeg_block: mrl dvdnav:// is known, estimated bitrate: 0 system layer format 'MPEG_BLOCK' detected. metronom: video discontinuity #6, type is 0, disc_off is 0 metronom: waiting for audio discontinuity #6 metronom: audio discontinuity #6, type is 0, disc_off 0 metronom: audio vpts adjusted with prebuffer to 12533877 metronom: waiting for in_discontinuity update #6 metronom: video vpts adjusted to 12533877 audio_loop: unknown buffer type: 0106 libspudec: SPU CLUT audio_loop: unknown buffer type: 0400 audio_loop: unknown buffer type: 0106 audio_decoder: suggested switching to stream_id 00 xine_play: xine open dvdnav://, start pos = 0, start time = 0 (sec) Error getting next block from DVD (Error reading NAV packet.) xine_play: demuxer failed to start xine: set_speed 4 xine_stop xine_stop: stopping demuxer demux_mpeg_block: stop...ignored xine_stop: stopped demuxer xine_stop: done Premetto che lo stesso errore avviene sia con ogle, mplayer e videolan e che ho provato con vari dvd ma tutti con lo stesso errore. Sono in attesa dei vostri utili consigli. Maurizio
Re: [newbie-it] DVD e xine
In un altro luogo e in un altro tempo, root esclamo': read_cache: read error (Input/output error) [..] GetTitleKey failed: Input/output error [..] libdvdcss error: ioctl_ReadTitleKey failed [..] Error getting next block from DVD (Error reading NAV packet.) Uhmm, questi sembrerebbero problemi di comunicazione tra il sistema e il lettore dvd; magari ha problemi di lettura a quella modalita' di trasferimento dati (presumibilmente troppo alta): prova a ridurla (usando l'opzione -X di hdparm con un valore inferiore). Con l'opzione -i vedi la modalita' in uso (PIO/DMA/UDMA). Guarda ovviamente l'inimitabile man hdparm, dato che non e' un comando da usare alla leggera. Eventualmente i cavi sono ben collegati ai connettori appositi? -- L.U. #210970 L.M. #98222 S.U. #12583 - K 2.4.18-puro * Slackware 8.1-rc3 * affittasi in firma-vista mail, spazio libero e termoautonomo, composto di ben 3 righe piu' servizi. prezzi modici * ;-))
[newbie] OT - World Cup broadcasts
Sorry for the OT posting, but this is probably the most international list I'm on :) I'm looking for live Internet radio broadcasts of World Cup matches. I see that Mexico is beating Italy on Philips Matchcast, but it's not quite the same as listening to it. I've searched all over but can't find anything. Surely the sporting event with the most global appeal will be on radio somewhere? I can listen to English or Spanish (perhaps Portuguese). -- Todd Slater Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] mandrake 8.2 + usb-mouse hotplugging
Hi everyone, I posted this message about a month ago in comp.os.linux.misc nobody has answered so far. I guess it was the wrong place to post something mandrake specific. Well, my problem is my usb-mouse. It works fine after startup, but after disconnecting and reconnecting the mouse it doesn't. It works again after I restart. There seems to be a module missing or something... I have never compiled a kernel or loaded a module. (If I have to do that: is there a (simlple?) how-to somewhere for compiling kernels or including modules? Can someone tell me how to do it?) Thank you, Patrik - uname -a Linux merlin 2.4.18-6mdk #1 Fri Mar 15 02:59:08 CET 2002 i686 unknown /sbin/lsmod Module Size Used byTainted: GF vfat9788 0 (autoclean) fat31384 0 (autoclean) [vfat] nls_iso8859-15 3360 1 (autoclean) isofs 25792 1 (autoclean) inflate_fs 19328 0 (autoclean) [isofs] sr_mod 15160 2 (autoclean) r128 87640 1 agpgart31552 3 (autoclean) vmnet 19456 6 vmmon 19316 0 (unused) parport_pc 22088 1 (autoclean) lp 6464 0 (autoclean) parport23968 1 (autoclean) [parport_pc lp] cs46xx 55048 0 soundcore 4068 3 [cs46xx] ac97_codec 9568 0 [cs46xx] ds 6848 2 yenta_socket9344 2 pcmcia_core41824 0 [ds yenta_socket] af_packet 12488 1 (autoclean) keybdev 1856 0 (unused) mousedev4160 1 hid18528 0 (unused) usbmouse1984 0 (unused) input 3616 0 [keybdev mousedev hid usbmouse] usb-uhci 21668 0 (unused) usbcore59072 1 [hid usbmouse usb-uhci] eepro100 18096 1 (autoclean) supermount 62180 2 (autoclean) sd_mod 11644 0 (autoclean) (unused) ide-scsi8032 1 scsi_mod 92488 3 [sr_mod sd_mod ide-scsi] rtc 5912 0 (autoclean) reiserfs 169312 5 cat /proc/bus/usb/devices T: Bus=01 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#= 1 Spd=12 MxCh= 2 B: Alloc= 93/900 us (10%), #Int= 1, #Iso= 0 D: Ver= 1.00 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 1 P: Vendor= ProdID= Rev= 0.00 S: Product=USB UHCI Root Hub S: SerialNumber=1860 C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=40 MxPwr= 0mA I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 8 Ivl=255ms T: Bus=01 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=00 Cnt=01 Dev#= 2 Spd=1.5 MxCh= 0 D: Ver= 2.00 Cls=00(ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 1 P: Vendor=046d ProdID=c00f Rev=11.00 S: Manufacturer=Logitech S: Product=USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=a0 MxPwr= 98mA I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=03(HID ) Sub=01 Prot=02 Driver=usb_mouse E: Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 4 Ivl= 10ms cat /etc/modules.conf alias usb-interface usb-uhci alias sound-slot-0 cs46xx probeall scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi alias eth0 eepro100 tail -f /var/log/messages May 27 16:01:20 merlin kernel: usb.c: USB disconnect on device 2 May 27 16:01:25 merlin kernel: hub.c: USB new device connect on bus1/1, assigned device number 3 May 27 16:01:25 merlin kernel: input0: Logitech USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse on usb1:3.0 May 27 16:01:25 merlin /etc/hotplug/usb.agent: Setup usbmouse hid for USB product 46d/c00f/1100 May 27 16:01:25 merlin /etc/hotplug/usb.agent: missing kernel or user mode driver usbmouse May 27 16:01:26 merlin /etc/hotplug/usb.agent: missing kernel or user mode driver hid Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mandrake 8.2 + usb-mouse hotplugging
On Thu 13 Jun 2002 14:53, schall rauch wrote: Hi everyone, I posted this message about a month ago in comp.os.linux.misc nobody has answered so far. I guess it was the wrong place to post something mandrake specific. Well, my problem is my usb-mouse. It works fine after startup, but after disconnecting and reconnecting the mouse it doesn't. It works again after I restart. There seems to be a module missing or something... I have never compiled a kernel or loaded a module. (If I have to do that: is there a (simlple?) how-to somewhere for compiling kernels or including modules? Can someone tell me how to do it?) Thank you, Patrik I'm no expert on USB-mice but would service usb restart on root/su-commandline solve it? Good luck, Harm. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Any news of MDK 9.0?
On Thursday 13 Jun 2002 2:29 pm, Linux Maniac wrote: From the state of cooker and that no there is no new of any betas, I would say it is a while off yet. Mandrake also seem to release about every 6 months or so, so I think that would make it about september before we hear any thing ( with luck it will have KDE 3.1). For 8.2 the KDE 3.0.1 packages are stable. (I am using it now) Hi All! Does any insider know news of release dates? When will there be an official release containing KDE3 and possibly Gnome 2 by then? I wander if it will be MDK 9.0? :-) Peace BAT Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Intro and E-Mail client??
dfox wrote: Randy Kramer wrote: And, if spammers wanted to reach people who have specified their preference not to receive HTML / XML mail, they'd have to send plain Spammers could care less. Most of the spam I get now is all html or in chinese. They don't even care if the person on the other end can read the message. That's wonderful -- anybody set to receive no HTML will also receive no spam!! Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] webmin cookies
All browsers eh? Could you have a permissions problem in your home directory? Do you actually own your ~/.mozilla or ~/.galeon directories? If you have previously backed up and then restored your home it is possible root owns some directories. You can check if the cookie is being offered by setting the 'warn before accepting cookie' option, and Mozilla will list all the installed cookies so you can check it was accepted. derek On Thursday 13 June 2002 13:54, Bill Winegarden wrote: Hi, I checked and I have 'no proxy' set in Galeon 1.0.3. The cookie message happens in all browsers.Galeon, Konq 2.2.2, and Moz 0.9.8. I am running 8.2 with no other problems. regards, Bill W. On Thursday 13 June 2002 03:37 am, you wrote: On Thursday 13 June 2002 04:52, Bill Winegarden wrote: Hi, I am trying to get webmin up and running. When I go to 127.0.0.1:1 I get the webmin login screen. However, when I try to login as root I get the message ... Your browser does not support cookies, which are required for this web server to work in session authentication mode... I checked the 'persistent data' in Galeon and it shows 'accept all cookies'. I have tried it with Apache running and with Apache stopped. What am I missing here? tia, Bill W. Well webmin has nothing to do with Apache. Are you running a proxy? My Galeon1.2.5 cannot logon when I am using my privoxy proxy server, but it does not complain about cookies. Without the proxy it works fine. Opera6.01 has no problem, with or without a proxy. Konqueror 2.2 has no problem, but konqueror 3 stalls when you try to logon. Mozilla1.0 has no problem. HTH derek Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT - World Cup broadcasts
As usual the BBC can be relied on http://www.bbc.co.uk/fivelive/ It was a good match :-) As it happens Italy would have gone through even if they lost since Paraguay beat Croatia. Mexico looked quite impressive. derek On Thursday 13 June 2002 14:04, Todd Slater wrote: Sorry for the OT posting, but this is probably the most international list I'm on :) I'm looking for live Internet radio broadcasts of World Cup matches. I see that Mexico is beating Italy on Philips Matchcast, but it's not quite the same as listening to it. I've searched all over but can't find anything. Surely the sporting event with the most global appeal will be on radio somewhere? I can listen to English or Spanish (perhaps Portuguese). Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Any news of MDK 9.0?
On Thu, 13 Jun 2002 15:29:02 +0200, Linux Maniac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All! Does any insider know news of release dates? When will there be an official release containing KDE3 and possibly Gnome 2 by then? I wander if it will be MDK 9.0? :-) General MandrakeSoft policy is to release by the end of October. You can expect Mandrake 9.0 to have GCC 3.1.1, GNOME 2.0 and KDE 3.0 (possibly 3.1). -- Sridhar Dhanapalan If you sat a monkey down in front of a keyboard, the first thing typed would be a UNIX command. -- Bill Lye Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Mandrake 9.0 wishlist :-)
I wonder what you'd like to implemented in the 9.0 release. My wishlist is in short: - a script for installing the nvidia drivers OR a deal with nvidia to provide them preinstalled in MDK 9.0 - Hungarian spell checkers - Opera 6.x - Mldonkey - Latest gtk-gnutella - Themable graphical boot - More KDE/Gnome themes - Support for Mustek ScanMagic 1200 (paralell) - Mozilla 1.1 - Mplayer - An advanced control center with more advanced options - winex and crossover office - preinstalled flash plugin - Maybe a gamer's extension 4th CD so on the first 3 CD there would be only serious programs and the games of kde/gnome - A more discrete and professional Mandrake look (icons, bootup, etc.) -Maybe a change of logo? BAT Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] mandrake 8.2 + usb-mouse hotplugging
probably: service usb restart and service gpm restart that will restart the usb then mouse services. regards Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of H.J.Bathoorn (by way of H.J.Bathoorn [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Sent: Thursday, 13 June 2002 9:21 PM To: newbie Subject: Re: [newbie] mandrake 8.2 + usb-mouse hotplugging On Thu 13 Jun 2002 14:53, schall rauch wrote: Hi everyone, I posted this message about a month ago in comp.os.linux.misc nobody has answered so far. I guess it was the wrong place to post something mandrake specific. Well, my problem is my usb-mouse. It works fine after startup, but after disconnecting and reconnecting the mouse it doesn't. It works again after I restart. There seems to be a module missing or something... I have never compiled a kernel or loaded a module. (If I have to do that: is there a (simlple?) how-to somewhere for compiling kernels or including modules? Can someone tell me how to do it?) Thank you, Patrik I'm no expert on USB-mice but would service usb restart on root/su-commandline solve it? Good luck, Harm. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 wishlist :-)
On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Linux Maniac wrote: I wonder what you'd like to implemented in the 9.0 release. My wishlist is in short: - a script for installing the nvidia drivers OR a deal with nvidia to provide them preinstalled in MDK 9.0 - Hungarian spell checkers - Opera 6.x - Mldonkey - Latest gtk-gnutella - Themable graphical boot - More KDE/Gnome themes - Support for Mustek ScanMagic 1200 (paralell) - Mozilla 1.1 - Mplayer - An advanced control center with more advanced options - winex and crossover office - preinstalled flash plugin - Maybe a gamer's extension 4th CD so on the first 3 CD there would be only serious programs and the games of kde/gnome - A more discrete and professional Mandrake look (icons, bootup, etc.) -Maybe a change of logo? BAT No! No soup for you!! -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] LM8.2 Boot up to text.. where's the gui?
i've successfully install Linux Mandrake! with kernel 2.2 for my pentium 233MMX computer! then today after work i come back and try to boot up my com.. eveyrthing welnt well.. even lilo comes up.. :) i choose linux.. but it hang again... cos i htink if i choose linux.. it will tryto boot with kernal 2.4.. am i right??? so i choose the linux 2.2 option.. well everythign boots up.. and i wait and wait but nothing on screen happens but lines and lines of words.. oops! i lost the interface! sigh.. being a newbie myself i dunno enuf command to get my started except root and the password and shutdown command.. so no GUI for me.. :( so can anyone tell me how to boot up to the gui?? be it kde or gnome.. cos i really dunno about a thing... i thought i can straight boot up to it.. :( also.. can anyone pls tell me how can i configure lilo?? i wanna make windows my default if there's no user interverne to select the os.. thanx first.. :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 wishlist :-)
On Thursday 13 June 2002 09:32 am, you wrote: You mentioned Hungarian spell checkers...magyar vagyok? On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Linux Maniac wrote: I wonder what you'd like to implemented in the 9.0 release. My wishlist is in short: - a script for installing the nvidia drivers OR a deal with nvidia to provide them preinstalled in MDK 9.0 - Hungarian spell checkers - Opera 6.x - Mldonkey - Latest gtk-gnutella - Themable graphical boot - More KDE/Gnome themes - Support for Mustek ScanMagic 1200 (paralell) - Mozilla 1.1 - Mplayer - An advanced control center with more advanced options - winex and crossover office - preinstalled flash plugin - Maybe a gamer's extension 4th CD so on the first 3 CD there would be only serious programs and the games of kde/gnome - A more discrete and professional Mandrake look (icons, bootup, etc.) -Maybe a change of logo? BAT No! No soup for you!! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] MCSE and rebooting for IP changes
Hey, you don't have to reboot to change IPs anymore. grin I wish more of this M$ bashing energy was put into making linux a more viable solution. Here you have a MCSE (started with MS networking when I was 23) who is completely willing to switch to linux. I earned my MCSE to battle the you're a dumb kid comments and it worked. I back it up with years of experience from the DOS days where you needed to know things such as low-level formatting, IRQ's, etc. Most computer concepts and usage comes very easily to me. After stumbling with linux on and off I have to say that Microsoft has a good thing going. They have a total solution that works pretty well. If most of these companies and users had to wait for linux they wouldn't be where they are today. Understand that I REALLY want to switch to linux but you seem to wonder why people just don't get it. Its not easy, its not even close. I have been able to learn more about Windows and creating an entire corporate network in less time than it has taken me to figure how to open a simple MDB file in linux. You can call me names, tell me I'm stupid or ignorant. It won't change the fact that a VERY experience computer user is having trouble with 'the best operating system ever'. I have to say that since I've joined a few mailing lists I've received more help for free than I have from Microsoft. When I started with my latest stint of linux usage I choose from three packages, RedHat, SuSe, and Mandrake. RedHat lost because I'm somewhat scared they are getting proprietary, but I'd probably use them on the server side. SuSe lost fast because I couldn't even install it on my new Dell, no network card found. I settled on Mandrake, also my neighbors 2nd choice. Here I am, an MCSE that has gotten a clue if you will. On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 18:33, Cory wrote: I have worked with MCSE's on and off for about 5 years now, and why is it that me, being a 23 year old has far greater knowledge with regards to computers, network administration, implementation concepts, etc. etc. than ANYONE I have ever worked with who holds the MCSE title? I worked with this one guy, who was getting paid just over 2x the salary that I was making who had no idea of what an IRQ is, why they are needed, why most devices needed their own. He had spent nearly a week at a client's site, billing that client for his time there, just to get a 3rd network card installed onto an NT4.0 box, until that Friday, I visit the site to see if he needed a hand. I offer my help, and his response was what do you know? Youre just a kid. I neglected to answer that, and proceeded to change the conflicting IRQ to one that was available. 3 minutes is what it took for me to solve a problem that a guy with a $15000 education couldn't do in a week. The bill worked out to a little over $3000 to the client for a dumb kid to configure a NIC in 3 minutes... is this the kind of service that's good for business? His entire lifestyle (wage, ie new car, decent house etc.) was based upon a title, not the product of his efforts. I'm sorry to all you out there that ARE MCSE's... I'm sorry that you had to spend so much money to be mocked by someone like me who can literally run circles around your knowledge of computers (There ARE some who actually do know a lot about computers, but I can guarantee that the knowledge you possess did not come from any of Microsoft's training regimes). What do you do when windows doesn't start? Is re-install the only solution there is? I ask those of you who ARE MCSE's this: In a production environment, is it acceptable for a reboot to be required on your server when you install an upgrade (aka. Service pack), change an ip, or create/delete partitions on drives? Is uptime #1 on your priority list? Is money for licensing costs an endless resource? What about Security/privacy, would you like your server formatted one night because the manufacturer of your product didn't worry about getting it right the first time, and just said let's release it, and we can fix it later with 54 hotfixes and service packs? Do you like the fact that any sort of Customization to the operating system itself will either get you sued or imprisioned? Have you ever wondered WHY Microsoft OS'es have such a bad reputation? If you ever actually use another OS, you will see what it is that creates this opinion. Try it! And you wont even have to pay anything to do so... The problem here is that you have become cattle... follow what everyone else wants, don't think for yourself, don't ask yourself what you will really achieve, or how you will really benefit the company you work for. I have been hired as part of the IT staff, and none of us have had ANY official Microsoft training of any kind. In the interview I was asked what my training level was. My response was None, officially, then he asked if I would like to get my MCSE in the future, and I said a lot of what's in this post. Now I'm
[newbie] Samba works as domain server question
Hi, I'm using Linux as my file server for all windows computer via Samba. I have no problem with workgroup. It works fine. Now, I want to setup my linux box works like domain server (it means all windows users on my network must logon to this computer). After I setup smb.conf file, I use can not use Windows computer access my Linux box. It said Domain not found! I test smb.conf and it works fine. Therefore, I think I must setup my Linux box as domain server first, isn't it? If yes, WhAT SOFTWARE do I need to install in able to setup my own domain? How do I test it? And can we use Webmin to setup test? Any input is a big thanks Thank you. Tuan __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 wishlist :-)
On Thu, 13 Jun 2002 16:31:27 +0200 Linux Maniac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder what you'd like to implemented in the 9.0 release. My wishlist is in short: - a script for installing the nvidia drivers OR a deal with nvidia to provide them preinstalled in MDK 9.0 - Hungarian spell checkers - Opera 6.x - Mldonkey - Latest gtk-gnutella - Themable graphical boot - More KDE/Gnome themes - Support for Mustek ScanMagic 1200 (paralell) - Mozilla 1.1 - Mplayer - An advanced control center with more advanced options - winex and crossover office - preinstalled flash plugin - Maybe a gamer's extension 4th CD so on the first 3 CD there would be only serious programs and the games of kde/gnome - A more discrete and professional Mandrake look (icons, bootup, etc.) -Maybe a change of logo? BAT well, i do think they need a redesign.. ( icons, colors, images simply look old ) but hey, they are busy trying to make it work, and they normally accomplish that. the day they can't make it work, they will try to make it look pretty. ( a la M$ ;o) they probably have a very little or no graphics design division..? kde/gnome themes? .. uhmmm nah it would mean valuable CD space that we're better off using for useful apps.. adding collections of themes for every WM or for Xmms is simply a waste of space, since everyone is going to like only one or a few of them and feel the rest shouldn't be there. an advanced control center.. this might be a good idea.. but add options for what? i think it's complete enough... preinstalled flash plugin -- definitely. MPlayer.. would be nice, although it's claimed that a precompiled package will never perform as well as an install from tarball.. personally, i have nothing to ask of them. all of my hardware works, 95% of the programs i need are in the download CD's ( too bad i can't afford the boxed sets ) so.. i'll just let them surprise me. Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] LM8.2 Boot up to text.. where's the gui?
On Thursday 13 June 2002 10:36 am, you wrote: i've successfully install Linux Mandrake! with kernel 2.2 for my pentium 233MMX computer! then today after work i come back and try to boot up my com.. eveyrthing welnt well.. even lilo comes up.. :) i choose linux.. but it hang again... cos i htink if i choose linux.. it will tryto boot with kernal 2.4.. am i right??? so i choose the linux 2.2 option.. well everythign boots up.. and i wait and wait but nothing on screen happens but lines and lines of words.. oops! i lost the interface! sigh.. being a newbie myself i dunno enuf command to get my started except root and the password and shutdown command.. so no GUI for me.. :( so can anyone tell me how to boot up to the gui?? be it kde or gnome.. cos i really dunno about a thing... i thought i can straight boot up to it.. :( also.. can anyone pls tell me how can i configure lilo?? i wanna make windows my default if there's no user interverne to select the os.. thanx first.. :) startx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] LM8.2 Boot up to text.. where's the gui?
Login as your user, ans type startx (without the quotes), press enter, enjoy! Lanman - Original Message - From: Rainer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [newbie] LM8.2 Boot up to text.. where's the gui? On Thursday 13 June 2002 10:36 am, you wrote: i've successfully install Linux Mandrake! with kernel 2.2 for my pentium 233MMX computer! then today after work i come back and try to boot up my com.. eveyrthing welnt well.. even lilo comes up.. :) i choose linux.. but it hang again... cos i htink if i choose linux.. it will tryto boot with kernal 2.4.. am i right??? so i choose the linux 2.2 option.. well everythign boots up.. and i wait and wait but nothing on screen happens but lines and lines of words.. oops! i lost the interface! sigh.. being a newbie myself i dunno enuf command to get my started except root and the password and shutdown command.. so no GUI for me.. :( so can anyone tell me how to boot up to the gui?? be it kde or gnome.. cos i really dunno about a thing... i thought i can straight boot up to it.. :( also.. can anyone pls tell me how can i configure lilo?? i wanna make windows my default if there's no user interverne to select the os.. thanx first.. :) startx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 wishlist sidetrack
Sorry for those who do not speak hungarian Hat ha eddig nem volt nyilvanvalo :-() Udv! fenn vagy a [EMAIL PROTECTED] listan? BAT 2002-06-13, cs keltezssel Michael ezt rta: On Thursday 13 June 2002 09:32 am, you wrote: You mentioned Hungarian spell checkers...magyar vagyok? On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Linux Maniac wrote: I wonder what you'd like to implemented in the 9.0 release. My wishlist is in short: - a script for installing the nvidia drivers OR a deal with nvidia to provide them preinstalled in MDK 9.0 - Hungarian spell checkers - Opera 6.x - Mldonkey - Latest gtk-gnutella - Themable graphical boot - More KDE/Gnome themes - Support for Mustek ScanMagic 1200 (paralell) - Mozilla 1.1 - Mplayer - An advanced control center with more advanced options - winex and crossover office - preinstalled flash plugin - Maybe a gamer's extension 4th CD so on the first 3 CD there would be only serious programs and the games of kde/gnome - A more discrete and professional Mandrake look (icons, bootup, etc.) -Maybe a change of logo? BAT No! No soup for you!! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MCSE and rebooting for IP changes
On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 18:33, Cory wrote: {...snip...} (There ARE some who actually do know a lot about computers, but I can guarantee that the knowledge you possess did not come from any of Microsoft's training regimes). You got that right! I wasted $9,000 for my MCSE course. What a joke. I'm so glad my boss picked up the student loan payments. If I ever get around to upgrading from NT 4.0 cert to 2k, I'll do it on my own time instead of paying an instructor to get instruction from me. The school had a PC setup with Win2k that had 3 NIC cards acting as a router for the 2 classrooms. They couldn't figure out how to get internet access using that setup! It took me all of 5 minutes to get things configured so I could browse the internet from my desk. After that, any time the instructor couldn't answer a question, he'd ask me. Either I already knew the answer or could find it quickly on the net. Just about all of my training was done on my own time. I've been programming since age 8, starting with the TI99/4a and moving thru TRS-80, Apple II (YUK!) and finally PC's starting at age 15. The ONLY reason I wanted to get my MCSE was so I'd have something to show an employer. How in the world did you find someone that would hire you based on unofficial training? I searched from age 15 to age 22 and finally found my current employer, which isn't really in the computer field. I work for an HVAC system installer as tech support, IT, software development, instructor, etc. Not exactly my choice of work, but every resume I've sent in gets rejected because of no formal training. Lastly, one thing I really regret was never being exposed to Linux as a child. My parents bought a PC based on what friends suggested (MSDOS 3.3 Windows 3.1). So, I grew up on M$. Later, my exposure to *nix OS's was very difficult. Now I look back and wish I would've gotten in on Linux much earlier. I'm slowly making the transition. I've got a XP machine for e-mail, games, TV, music, etc. And, a Mandrake machine for my website, e-mail server general Linux learning. Last week I got into Linux on my iPAQ. That's pretty cool. Unlike desktop Windows vs Windows CE, Linux is the same on the handheld and the desktop. {...snip...} I have been hired as part of the IT staff, and none of us have had ANY official Microsoft training of any kind. In the interview I was asked what my training level was. My response was None, officially, then he asked if I would like to get my MCSE in the future, and I said a lot of what's in this post. Now I'm here. Cory Grey Coastal Pacific Xpress www.cpx.ca (604) 575-0983 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Samba works as domain server question
On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Tuan tran wrote: Hi, I'm using Linux as my file server for all windows computer via Samba. I have no problem with workgroup. It works fine. Now, I want to setup my linux box works like domain server (it means all windows users on my network must logon to this computer). After I setup smb.conf file, I use can not use Windows computer access my Linux box. It said Domain not found! I test smb.conf and it works fine. Therefore, I think I must setup my Linux box as domain server first, isn't it? If yes, WhAT SOFTWARE do I need to install in able to setup my own domain? How do I test it? And can we use Webmin to setup test? Any input is a big thanks Thank you. Tuan Tuan, do you have dhcp server setup and running on this machine along with samba? that is how I'm using samba and linux on my home LAN. all the windows machines login to this machine, get their IP number from this machine as well as share it's internet connection. this machine also serves as fileserver and print server via samba. does this sound like what you're working to setup? -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Can't install with 8.2
I get the error could not uncompress second stage ramdisk when installing with the CD for ver 8.2. Please help?!?!?! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Upgrading memory
On Wednesday 12 June 2002 04:55 pm, you wrote: Marcia wrote: On Wednesday 12 June 2002 12:26 pm, you wrote: I knew that you are not supposed to mix different kinds of memory so my plan was to take out the simms and put in two 256 megs of sdram dimm ram into the dimm 168 pin slots. I thought that might work for getting my much desired 512 megs of ram. Will this make a big difference for my speed given the processor info above? Thanks for the great thoughts and suggestions. Marcia I'll be honest say that *as a guess* one of two things will happen with your desired 512 mb's of ram: Dear All Civileme, Thank you for your thoughts and suggestions. I have come to the conclusion that if I want 512 mb's of ram then I either must upgrade my motherboard and cpu or get a new computer. I am thinking very hard about purchasing the Jetway 830CF Socket A ATX Motherboard w/Duron 1Ghz, CPU that is going for $129.95 from www.softwareandstuff.com. Does anyone know if this kit is complete with needed cooling fans, etc? It has video onboard and sound which Civileme says works with Linux. Will this go well with the rest of my system or will I be forced to upgrade other hardware because of this upgrade? Any help here will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Marcia a) the comp will puke refuse to boot. or b) the comp will boot fine, and you'll be happy. General Vague I know but i've had some experience with 200mz Pentiums. I've found in general that is the case. In one case I had ot remove one of the simms (or was it a dimm?) because I knew that although the memory was good, the BIOS wouldn't go higher than 256Mb of Ram. NO matter what I did, it just threw up gave plaintive little beeps :( Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 wishlist :-)
On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Damian G wrote: On Thu, 13 Jun 2002 16:31:27 +0200 Linux Maniac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder what you'd like to implemented in the 9.0 release. My wishlist is in short: - a script for installing the nvidia drivers OR a deal with nvidia to provide them preinstalled in MDK 9.0 - Hungarian spell checkers - Opera 6.x - Mldonkey - Latest gtk-gnutella - Themable graphical boot - More KDE/Gnome themes - Support for Mustek ScanMagic 1200 (paralell) - Mozilla 1.1 - Mplayer - An advanced control center with more advanced options - winex and crossover office - preinstalled flash plugin - Maybe a gamer's extension 4th CD so on the first 3 CD there would be only serious programs and the games of kde/gnome - A more discrete and professional Mandrake look (icons, bootup, etc.) -Maybe a change of logo? BAT well, i do think they need a redesign.. ( icons, colors, images simply look old ) but hey, they are busy trying to make it work, and they normally accomplish that. the day they can't make it work, they will try to make it look pretty. ( a la M$ ;o) [snip] Damian, clearly you haven't seen kde-301 yet, have you? and besides...it's not their job to make it look prettier. thats what desktop managers like KDE, Blackbox, and the rest are for, right? -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 wishlist :-)
daRcmaTTeR wrote: On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Linux Maniac wrote: I wonder what you'd like to implemented in the 9.0 release. My wishlist is in short: - a script for installing the nvidia drivers OR a deal with nvidia to provide them preinstalled in MDK 9.0 - Hungarian spell checkers - Opera 6.x - Mldonkey - Latest gtk-gnutella - Themable graphical boot - More KDE/Gnome themes - Support for Mustek ScanMagic 1200 (paralell) - Mozilla 1.1 - Mplayer - An advanced control center with more advanced options - winex and crossover office - preinstalled flash plugin - Maybe a gamer's extension 4th CD so on the first 3 CD there would be only serious programs and the games of kde/gnome - A more discrete and professional Mandrake look (icons, bootup, etc.) -Maybe a change of logo? BAT No! No soup for you!! Heh heh. This little Oliver would like Sony camcorder drivers LyX 2.0 Wine 1.0 A version of OpenOffice that loads in under a minute Turkish spellchecker ... and so on. But of course these are up to the to the program developers, not Mandrake. On the whole, I think Mandrake do a fairly good job of selecting apps which balance usefulness and stability. I don't want bleeding-edge stuff when I'm installing my system - I'll download those later at my own risk. Similarly, I don't want a load of themes, as a theme can be downloaded quickly, and I don't want them cluttering up my installation. As for flash and winex, these are proprietary or semi-proprietary programs that should be in the Powerpack but not the basic CD. The same would go for proprietary drivers. I don't mind sullying my system with the odd bit of proprietary software (e.g. I use nvidia's drivers) but I agree with the current policy of quarantining them - some people are fanatical about this. One idea I did think was good was a separate games CD. There are now a lot of Linux games around. Most of them are dissappointing, not so much through any fault of the developers, but because these days producing a decent game takes a lot of people and a lot of money (I once wrote a game for the Atari ZX81; OK, it sucked even by ZX81 standards, but the point is that if I'd been a better progammer and spent months rather than days, I could have produced a market leader - that isn't true now*). Put the games on a separate CD, then we can spend installation time on the serious stuff, then browse the games at our leisure. Sir Robin * There are of course honourable exceptions (Nethack Falcon's Eye springs to mind, plus a few nostaligic arcade games, but again the key word is nostalgia). Speaking of which, I'd pay any money for a Linux clone of Elite - not the yucky 16-colour DOS versions you can get from places like Abandonware, but the clean, aesthetic, wireframe graphics BBC Micro version. That's the only game I've played long enough to start hallucinating. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Upgrading memory
On Wednesday 12 June 2002 04:44 pm, you wrote: Marcia wrote: Dear All, I mentioned lately that I have upgraded with simms EDO 72 pin memory to 128 megs of ram. To my surprise when I opened my box I found 2 empty dimm 168 pin slots. Does this mean that I could upgrade to 512 megs of ram using the 168 pin dimm sdram memory modules? I certainly would prefer that to a new computer or upgrading the motherboard/cpu. I have a 200 megahertz genuine Intel motherboard and Pentium II MMX processor. Also, I am using LM 8.2. Any thoughts on this would be appreciated. Thanks. Marcia Simms Dimms don't mix. You have to use one or the other. so populate your Dimms slots, but remove the SIMMS in place already. Or vice versa. Dear All, Again thanks for all of the suggestions. Below are the specs on a computer that I am considering. Would Linux-Mandrake 8.2 work on this machine? I may add a Dell 17 monitor that is on sale for $99.00. Is this a good combo and will this all work with LM8.2? Thanks for the help. Sincerely, Marcia The fantastic HP Pavilion 750n desktop features components like the Intel® Pentium® 4 1.60 GHz processor, 512MB memory, massive 80GB hard drive, DVD, CDRW and much more. The HP Pavilion 750n meets all-around business computing needs with long-term stability, innovative manageability and connectivity. Specifications: * Intel® Pentium® 4 1.60GHz Processor * 512MB Memory * 80GB Hard Drive * 16x8x40x CDRW * 16x DVD * 3.5 1.44MB Floppy Drive * nVidia TNT2 M64 32MB AGP graphics card * 10/100 NIC * 56K Modem * Windows XP Home * Recertified w/ 90 Day Limited Warranty * Monitor Sold Separately Additional Specifications: * Microprocessor: Intel® Pentium® 4 processor 1.60GHz with Intel® NetBurst^(TM) micro-architecture * Frontside Bus: 400MHz * Memory: 512MB DDR SDRAM (exp. to 2GB) * Hard Drive: 80GB Ultra DMA * CD-RW Drive: HP CD-Writer (16x/8x/40x) * Multimedia Drive: 16x max. speed DVD-ROM * Video Graphics: nVidia TNT2^(TM) M64 AGP graphics card * Network Card: Integrated 10/100Base-T networking interface * Data/Fax Modem: ITU V.90 K56flex modem, data/fax only (33.6Kbps send/download up to 56Kbps/14.4Kbps fax) * Total Drive Bays: - External (1) 3.5, (2) 5.25 - Internal (2) 3.5 * Available Drive Bays: Internal (1) 3.5 * Total Expansion Slots: 3 PCI; 1 AGP * Available Slots: 1 PCI * Total External Ports: - 4 USB - 2 Serial - 1 parallel - 1 game port - 2 PS/2 - 3 IEEE 1394 ports * Available External Ports: - 4 USB - 2 serial - 1 parallel - 1 game port - 3 IEEE 1394 ports * Front Mounted Ports: - 2 USB - 1 Serial port - 1 IEEE 1394 port * Total Memory Slots: 2 DIMM (184pin, DDR) * Video Memory: 32MB SDRAM * Available Memory Slots: 0 DIMM (184 pin, DDR) * Memory Speed: 2100 MB/sec * Primary Cache (L1): 8KBytes of Data Cache + Trace Cache containing 12,000 Micro-Op entries * Secondary-Level Cache (L2): 256Kb advanced transfer cache * MPEG: MPEG2 for full-motion digital video * Keyboard: HP Internet Command Center; one-touch Internet keyboard * Speakers: Polk Audio Stereo Speakers with Power Port technology * DVD Software: InterVideo WinDVD^(TM) Manufactured by: Hewlett Packard Manufacturer Part No: RB-P6319AR Manufacturer Warranty: A full text version of the manufacturer's warranty may be obtained by mailing a self addressed, stamped envelope to the address below and requesting the warranty for item number: A265-1030 P TigerDirect.com Warranty Information 7795 West Flagler Street, Ste. 35 Miami, Florida 33144 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MCSE and rebooting for IP changes
Joshua James wrote: giant snip Understand that I REALLY want to switch to linux but you seem to wonder why people just don't get it. Its not easy, its not even close. I have been able to learn more about Windows and creating an entire corporate network in less time than it has taken me to figure how to open a simple MDB file in linux. I will only address this part as its one i'm familiar with. I will not call you names, nor will I insult your intelligence Joshua. Thats uncalled for here. However, I understand what you're saying. And I'll just tell you what I learned the hard way: Linux/Unices in general are just different. Theres teh M$haft way, and then theres Your way *with most Unices you can configure to your hearts content. Not so with Windows.*. Shrugs, I used to defend Mickeysoft, I stopped. Why? Because I realized there isn't a better OS out there *sorry to break your hearts Linux-geeks of the list*. There is, however, an OS that allows you complete freedom of choice. The caveat being, you must be willing young Padawan, to steep yourself in the knowledge that allows you to change the OS to suit you. Is it tougher? no. Different? yes. Much knowledge you will acquire young Jedi. :) -- Femme Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Upgrading memory
Marcia wrote: Dear All Civileme, Thank you for your thoughts and suggestions. I have come to the conclusion that if I want 512 mb's of ram then I either must upgrade my motherboard and cpu or get a new computer. I am thinking very hard about purchasing the Jetway 830CF Socket A ATX Motherboard w/Duron 1Ghz, CPU that is going for $129.95 from www.softwareandstuff.com. Does anyone know if this kit is complete with needed cooling fans, etc? It has video onboard and sound which Civileme says works with Linux. Will this go well with the rest of my system or will I be forced to upgrade other hardware because of this upgrade? Any help here will be greatly appreciated. well OK. Now you'll need: New RAM New Case *ATX case only, sorry they ditched the AT-style you have with your p200* Vid card taken care of. Sound card (onboard?!) extras (CDrom/Burner/DVDRom, extra HDD's, etc). Heh I'm sure some other tech geek will provide more info than this... I'm just giving you bare outlines. -- Femme Good Decisions You boss Made: We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts. - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Can't install with 8.2
On Thu, 13 Jun 2002, Jagpal Singh wrote: I get the error could not uncompress second stage ramdisk when installing with the CD for ver 8.2. Please help?!?!?! did you burn the cd yourself, or did you purchase the install cd somewhere? it sounds like you've got bad media. mark -- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Can't install with 8.2
On Fri, 14 Jun 2002 07:21, Jagpal Singh wrote: I get the error could not uncompress second stage ramdisk when installing with the CD for ver 8.2. Please help?!?!?! How much memory do you have? -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Gimp WAS: Mandrake 9.0 wishlist :-)
On Thursday 13 June 2002 02:20 pm, you wrote: clearly you haven't seen kde-301 yet, have you? and besides...it's not their job to make it look prettier. thats what desktop managers like KDE, Blackbox, and the rest are for, right? -- But the mandrake team, our even us newbies could design our own theme and make it official for all window managers. Than we can use it as the preinstalled theme :-) (we definately need to change the basic mandrake colors and logo!!!) Maybe we should make a redesign contest! I will enter as soon as I can figure gimp out. Photoshop seems much easyer... Poppycock Gimp is not harder to use. So what if you right-click on the image to access the menus instead of the File menu? Whoppee... Oh, you could use that little Arrow button too. :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] MCSE and rebooting for IP changes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You bring out good points, but you are still forgetting some thing. How are users going to get access to data that is not on a website or through a database application? Most users work on Word docs, or Excel spreadsheets, or heven forbid, a Lotus 1-2-3 spreadsheet. So, you would say use SAMBA on the Linux server, right? We all know how well NetBIOS scales in an Enterprise environment. I am not disagreeing with you that a Linux server would be a much better OS than a Microsoft server as a webserver or a MySQL or some other varient of the SQL language, or even Oracle. Most companies have started to look at Linux, as a different alternative to Unix, as most flavors of Unix are prepriatory and require the special hardware from the vendor (Solaris is the exception). BUT, you need to keep this in mind: It doesn't matter to most companies how much the application costs, until it starts to affect the end user. If a user cannot get access to data, your CTO or CIO will be getting phone calls from managers, and he/she will be raising hell. Now, if you can teach all of your end users how to get to data, then this world would be a perfect one, and you would be even richer than Bill Gates. You may have all of the techincal experience in the world, but if you don't know how end users REALLY work and operate, then you will fail. Because, having users complain and cause more of a problem by complaining to the wrong person, you will be looking for another job. Right now, I think a *NIX box would be a great web server or database server, but not a file and print server, nor a server that would be the equivelent to that of a Domain Controller. I'm pretty sure that there are other products out there that would bring this together, but how much is that going to cost? Most software vendors are charging more if not the same for a product that will seamlessly integrate all of your OS's together. Step back and look at everything. Yes Microsoft has become and will always be a big player and one that will try to force their side of the house on everyone. But, other software vendors are trying to do the same. Maybe not by using a strong arm tatic, but rather chargin rediculous prices for thier software licenses. Now, I'm not saying that this applies to EVERY software company out there, but most of them that I know. I too am an MCSE, but I don't go around bosting about it. I have seen other MCSE's rehash books, but they have little to no real experience with the product. MOST, not all, MCSE's are pretty dumb and are probably the most arrogant people in the industry. Well, maybe those that are nothing but Linux guys. :) I am just like Josh, who started when there was just DOS, and you needed to know how the hardware works with the software. I guess, Microsoft is just trying to make their OS more Admin Friendly. But, I guess only because by their teachings, they have made most MCSE's just Ok. I just insert the CD, press ENTER, and the OS is installed. Great. I'm done, whats next? This is appealing to those small businesses, but not the larger enterprise where security is at the top, if not the very top, of the list. Just my 2cents. Chris - -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cory Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 4:52 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [newbie] MCSE and rebooting for IP changes You have very valid points regarding the simplicity of using linux, but think of this... how hard would it be to use linux if you had never used a Microsoft OS? Yes, linux can be rather difficult to use at times, but also take into account the abilities it provides. Yes, you can make a complicated device (ie: computer) and make it so a monkey can use it, but when the mouse breaks, or when he clicks on the icon and it doesn't work, what good is the monkey? I don't say that linux is the Greatest OS in the world... I honestly don't think that linux, in its current state, belongs on the average end user desktop by ANY MEANS!! But linux does belong in the server market. Most end users are idiots... flat out, plain and simple, don't bother contesting that point. The problem here is that windows OS'es give the user zero incentive or ability to learn more about what really goes on behind the scenes. Why cant I run a windows app from a command prompt and see the ongoings of the application in that console window even if I wanted to? It is unfortunate that you had to fork out thousands of dollars for something that you probably gained very little from just so that the people who make things happen don't scoff at you for not being a lemming like them. I got hired because I had a fresh, unbiased and INFORMED opinion on the computer industry as a whole. Honestly, if I could get mac OS X to run on PC Hardware, that would probably be my platform of choice. Linux is not EASY, but it is reliable, extremely scalable, cost
[newbie] changing UID name?
i just mistakenly added a user with an incorrect logon. I think I changed that. Her logon and home directory are correctly named now but I notice that when I look at /etc/group, where I added her to a group I created, it also shows her listed up above with only the original logon name. Also there is only one UID for her listed and it is listed with her original logon name. In other words, I do not have everything changed over to her new logon. How can I change her UID to her new logon name so it shows up consistently everywhere? And what are some commands that I can use to see that all this info associated with her logon is correct? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 wishlist :-)
[snip] Damian, clearly you haven't seen kde-301 yet, have you? and besides...it's not their job to make it look prettier. thats what desktop managers like KDE, Blackbox, and the rest are for, right? .. i used KDE 3.0.1 a while and i dumped it when i found fluxbox ;o) but i think you didn't get my point. i'm not saying Mandrake has to improve KDE themes. that's up to kde-look . it's true you can make a beautiful KDE by dwnloading a couple of coloschemes and icon themes and such, but then you will find out what i was talking about. .. you will have perfect, beautiful icons, transparent menus, sleek 3D window decorations, gorgeous fonts with antialiasing. and a horrid mandrake control center icon that matches nothing, looks way too flat, and with opaque colors. what i meant by icons, colors, etc, is: the Mandrake control center icons, for example... you see, when i said mandrake needs a graphic redesign, i really meant mandrake. not KDE, Gnome, or any other product. just the looks of Mandrakesoft's products. Damian DISCLAIMER: There's no accounting for taste ;o) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Good for you, was:Re: Well OT:
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 13 June 2002 01:02 am, Franki did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: how did you get it for $100??? well it was mostly paided for by my work. sorry. till I found out how much it was gonna cost, I was going to get it.. just so I could tell people I was qualified to tell them that they shouldn't put windows on a server. you might take just one test, the server test, and get the MCP i think it is. what sorta stuff is in the tests? is it just stuff like calculating subnets etc? and knowing how to run win whatever you test on as well. the sad part is while knowing how to solve an IRQ conflict or figure out you have a bad nic or ram would be useful, they don't test that. they test things like where is the network configuration wizard like you can't play in the menus to find it. - -- of all of the actions humanity has called crimes, blasphemy is the most amazing, with obscenity and indecent exposure neck and neck for second. - -heinlein shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9CVmtBwq+ZwvIN/oRAjRCAJ9gfBitLv17vXdfiqQu61VxxvtWJACeKt9+ 4qVa1U36xgCDdaKZZ8Om11s= =TVTw -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Help with Evolution
On Wed, 2002-06-12 at 14:15, Langsley T Russell wrote: Much to my surprise I managed to download and install the Evolution e-mail client. It does seem to have much of what I'm looking for in an e-mail client. Although a few things are annoying like putting a line through a deleted or moved e-mail rather than deleting it from the folder. Evolution doesn't move trashed messages. It marks them for later deletion. Edit | Hide deleted messages will hide what you've marked for deletion. Warren Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Upgrading memory
It all depends on your motherboard's specs, Marcia. There's an ancient PC Chips mobo on my workbench now with 4 SIMM slots and 2 DIMM slots... but the documentation says that (A) SIMMs 1 and 2 cannot be used simultaneously with DIMM 1, nor can SIMMs 3 and 4 be used simultaneously with DIMM 2, and (B) DIMMs are limited to 128 MB max each. No doubt your mobo has different restrictions, but I cite this to warn the adventuresome that just because you've got lots of slots doesn't mean that you can fill them all. Check your documentation. Warren On Tue, 2002-06-11 at 19:56, Marcia wrote: Dear All, I mentioned lately that I have upgraded with simms EDO 72 pin memory to 128 megs of ram. To my surprise when I opened my box I found 2 empty dimm 168 pin slots. Does this mean that I could upgrade to 512 megs of ram using the 168 pin dimm sdram memory modules? I certainly would prefer that to a new computer or upgrading the motherboard/cpu. I have a 200 megahertz genuine Intel motherboard and Pentium II MMX processor. Also, I am using LM 8.2. Any thoughts on this would be appreciated. Thanks. Marcia Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MCSE and rebooting for IP changes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 13 June 2002 06:07 pm, Chris Lynch did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: How are users going to get access to data that is not on a website or through a database application? Most users work on Word docs, or Excel spreadsheets, or heven forbid, a Lotus 1-2-3 spreadsheet. lotus if i recall runs on linux, netscap eoriginally wanted to build apps to run from the browser to get to office stuff. i guess i don't understand your point. i can serve files to any machine type from linux and find them on any type. windows can't do that. my brother inlaw laughs cause his student housing has a shared network. he can browse all the machines in the building from linux, he can share with anyone he wants, and only who he wants. what is the problem? Right now, I think a *NIX box would be a great web server or database server, but not a file and print server. shame it works so well then... - -- Microsoft has knowingly and willfully concealed information regarding security flaws in computer software from the [National Security Agency] out of fear that revealing such flaws would reduce the number of copies of its products that would be purchased by the government... I have raised this issue internally with Microsoft, and in return have been the subject of both bribes and threats. -ED CURRY, Computer Security Specialist, in a letter to Defense Secretary William Coen shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9CW6aBwq+ZwvIN/oRAulfAJ9OQ8qZBq4OnAnT7nPIjb1D5kfa+QCfTLu6 kF6GCem7/Y15+TBoi6uWHcw= =HKQw -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MCSE and rebooting for IP changes
On 13 Jun 2002 13:07:55 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joshua James) wrote: Hey, you don't have to reboot to change IPs anymore. grin I wish more of this M$ bashing energy was put into making linux a more viable solution. This is a newbie list. I would think that most of us here don't have the expertise to make linux a more viable solution in any major way. I personally do my own bit by helping people out on lists such as this. Here you have a MCSE (started with MS networking when I was 23) who is completely willing to switch to linux. I earned my MCSE to battle the you're a dumb kid comments and it worked. I back it up with years of experience from the DOS days where you needed to know things such as low-level formatting, IRQ's, etc. So you're better than most other people with MCSEs. That's good :) Most computer concepts and usage comes very easily to me. After stumbling with linux on and off I have to say that Microsoft has a good thing going. They have a total solution that works pretty well. If most of these companies and users had to wait for linux they wouldn't be where they are today. Understand that I REALLY want to switch to linux but you seem to wonder why people just don't get it. Its not easy, its not even close. I have been able to learn more about Windows and creating an entire corporate network in less time than it has taken me to figure how to open a simple MDB file in linux. You can call me names, tell me I'm stupid or ignorant. It won't change the fact that a VERY experience computer user is having trouble with 'the best operating system ever'. I'm not going to call you names. In fact, I'm going to do the opposite. Believe it or not, it is your experience that is holding you back. You have grown accustomed to doing everything the 'Microsoft way', and this hinders your GNU/Linux learning. You need to 'unlearn' some of your MS knowledge before progressing, or you'll never get anywhere. GNU/Linux isn't harder -- it's just different. Your mind has been trained to do things in one way, and that way doesn't necessarily work here. To your mind, Windows may be logical, but that doesn't make other systems illogical. Other systems simply use a different kind of logic, which you must get used to before progressing. I used to think as you do, and back then GNU/Linux made no sense at all to me. Today, I look back at the DOS/Windows systems I used to use and they all seem haphazard and illogical. GNU/Linux is more powerful, and the many extra possibilities that provides makes things look unnecessarily more complex. If you narrow things down to the basics, the GNU/Linux console (or the UNIX console for that matter) isn't any more difficult than DOS. I have to say that since I've joined a few mailing lists I've received more help for free than I have from Microsoft. Hear, hear! :) When I started with my latest stint of linux usage I choose from three packages, RedHat, SuSe, and Mandrake. RedHat lost because I'm somewhat scared they are getting proprietary, but I'd probably use them on the server side. SuSe lost fast because I couldn't even install it on my new Dell, no network card found. I settled on Mandrake, also my neighbors 2nd choice. Here I am, an MCSE that has gotten a clue if you will. Red Hat maintains a freely downloadable GPL distribution, and all their core tools are GPL (e.g. Linuxconf). They do make some proprietary tools, but these are mostly targeted at the enterprise. Mandrake appear to be firmly committed to free software, and everything they make is GPL/LGPL. SuSE make their system tools proprietary, and they don't have freely downloadable ISOs. They are now part of the UnitedLinux group, which not distribute binaries. If any distro is becoming proprietary, I would say it is SuSE, along with the other UnitedLinux members (Caldera, TurboLinux and Conectiva). -- Sridhar Dhanapalan I actually think that Linux with the stuff that is going on in 3D, desktops, etc., has a chance to become the first real user-friendly UNIX. -- Linus Torvalds Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] changing UID name?
The easiest way is to take a look at /etc/passwd, /etc/shadow, /etc/group, and /etc/gshadow. In order to correctly switch everything over, you will have to remove the original login, either via the command line (ie, vi / joe / emacs, etc), or via a GUI based administration tool (such as linuxconf, userdrake, etc). It sounds like you added another separate user, rather than editing the existing user account. If that's the case the above method will work. If you do not have an entry in /etc/passwd for her current (correct login), you'll have to add that, as well as add her to any groups she was part of before. In the future, if you need to make changes to their username (login) or to their home directory, it is much easier to do something along these lines: 1. As root, move their existing home directory to the new username. (ie, if you are changing it from bharris to bcarter, you'd do cd /home, then type mv bharris bcarter (without the quotes) 2. Next, you'd edit the line in passwd for bharris, changing bharris to bcarter and changing the home directory 3. Change the line in /etc/shadow. 4. Change anything necessary in /etc/group and /etc/gshadow. Michael At 06:16 PM 6/13/2002 -0700, you wrote: i just mistakenly added a user with an incorrect logon. I think I changed that. Her logon and home directory are correctly named now but I notice that when I look at /etc/group, where I added her to a group I created, it also shows her listed up above with only the original logon name. Also there is only one UID for her listed and it is listed with her original logon name. In other words, I do not have everything changed over to her new logon. How can I change her UID to her new logon name so it shows up consistently everywhere? And what are some commands that I can use to see that all this info associated with her logon is correct? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MCSE and rebooting for IP changes
I used to think as you do, and back then GNU/Linux made no sense at all to me. Today, I look back at the DOS/Windows systems I used to use and they all seem haphazard and illogical. 10 or more years in my DOS Dupe days, I had a friend teach me by e-mail the joys of FTP. FTP sites ran on Unix, of course, and that was my only exposure to anything non-DOS at the time. Anyway, to get a directory listing of everything available, this friend told me (again, by e-mail) to use ls-lR. This is what the Dupe saw: it used ls instead of dir, it used a dash instead of a slash, and the capitalization mattered! I can not tell you how foreign this one stupid, itty-bitty command was to me. I could not come to grips with something so different, so I didn't even _try_ it!! I continued to dir through directories manually. Looking back, I can only bow my head in self-disgust. But the lesson is a valuable one: Thinking that DOS/Win is any more logical, intuitive, or superior than any other OS is a mental prison. 'Course, when I figured this out, I bucked the whole establishment, learning Linux and the Dvorak keyboard layout :-) Miark P.S. Want added security on your workstation? Learn the Dvorak layout. Nobody will be able to do squat on your machine :-D Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Help with Evolution
Evolution doesn't move trashed messages. It marks them for later deletion. Edit | Hide deleted messages will hide what you've marked for deletion. Warren Is that a new feature? I don't see that in the Evolution that came with 8.2. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MCSE and rebooting for IP changes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 13 June 2002 03:24 pm, FemmeFatale did speak unto the huddled masses, saying: Joshua James wrote: giant snip Understand that I REALLY want to switch to linux but you seem to wonder why people just don't get it. Its not easy, its not even close. I have been able to learn more about Windows and creating an entire corporate network in less time than it has taken me to figure how to open a simple MDB file in linux. an MDB file is what? made by who? can you say proprietary? how is this the fault of a different OS? linux ain't easy, niether is windows. even macs aen't as plug and play as they claim. Shrugs, I used to defend Mickeysoft, I stopped. Why? Because I realized there isn't a better OS out there *sorry to break your hearts Linux-geeks of the list*. There is, however, an OS that allows you complete freedom of choice. The caveat being, you must be willing young Padawan, to steep yourself in the knowledge that allows you to change the OS to suit you. Is it tougher? no. Different? yes. Much knowledge you will acquire young Jedi. :) well said. you can have freedom, or get charged yearly to rent your software from those who fear change and force you to choose the darkside. tough choice. :) - -- He serves the State best who opposes the State most. -Henry David Thoreau shane Profile at: http://dmoz.org/profiles/shen.html Proud to be a DMOZ editor since 10-98 Mandrake Users Club Member http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/club/ Registered linux user #101606 http://counter.li.org/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9CWAZBwq+ZwvIN/oRArLWAJ4mnVoDOPiyCpd5tPyVVuhOA3Ft1ACfS+iI mDcsYfce8EpPaofNLBmeWzY= =NuTY -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Help with Evolution
On Fri, 2002-06-14 at 15:12, Miark wrote: Is that a new feature? I don't see that in the Evolution that came with 8.2. It is in the 'View' menu, not the 'Edit' menu, second section down. Make sure you're in a mailbox though, or you won't see it. Regards, John... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com