Re: [newbie] Xine - update
On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 20:02:25 + John Richard Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can someone tell me in terms of xine, what region number am I in when I am > in UK > > John For a DVD bought here in the UK xine reports "maybe region 2". It appears to get that information from the Region mask on the DVD. -- Len Lawrence Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Xine - update
On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 13:30:06 -0300 Pilagá <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > El Lun 20 Ene 2003 10:31, Anne Wilson escribió: > > Did that, but the result was the same error message. Under uninstall > > software I see the package xine-dvdnav-0.9.13-1mdk. Isn't that the plugin > > that it says it can't find? > > > > Anne > > Anne: As user (not root) run 'xine-check'. > Thanks for that command Pilaga. Brilliant! -- Len Lawrence Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Xine - update
On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 13:31:13 + Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 20 Jan 2003 1:21 pm, Pilagá wrote: > > El Lun 20 Ene 2003 09:42, Anne Wilson escribió: > > > I found the .xine directory, and within it config and config2. It looks > > > to me as though one is the old version and the other the new one. > > > Problem is, I still don't know just what to look for in there. Anyone > > > help? > > > > > > Anne > > > > Anne: Try deleting 'config', 'config2' and 'catalog.cache', and let xine > > to rebuild them. > > > Did that, but the result was the same error message. Under uninstall software > I see the package xine-dvdnav-0.9.13-1mdk. Isn't that the plugin that it > says it can't find? That's the one. Could you look at your /usr/lib/xine/plugins directory and compare it with this: nvidia_vid.la*xineplug_dmx_mpeg_audio.so* nvidia_vid.so*xineplug_dmx_mpeg_block.so* vidix/xineplug_dmx_mpeg_elem.so* xineplug_ao_out_oss.so* xineplug_dmx_mpeg_pes.so* xineplug_decode_a52.so* xineplug_dmx_mpeg.so* xineplug_decode_adpcm.so* xineplug_dmx_mpeg_ts.so* xineplug_decode_cinepak.so* xineplug_dmx_ogg.so* xineplug_decode_cyuv.so* xineplug_dmx_qt.so* xineplug_decode_dts.so* xineplug_dmx_roq.so* xineplug_decode_ff.so*xineplug_dmx_smjpeg.so* xineplug_decode_fli.so* xineplug_dmx_wav.so* xineplug_decode_lpcm.so* xineplug_inp_cda.so* xineplug_decode_mad.so* xineplug_inp_d4d.so* xineplug_decode_mpeg2.so* xineplug_inp_d5d.so* xineplug_decode_msrle.so* xineplug_inp_dvdnav.so* xineplug_decode_msvc.so* xineplug_inp_dvd.so* xineplug_decode_roqaudio.so* xineplug_inp_file.so* xineplug_decode_roqvideo.so* xineplug_inp_http.so* xineplug_decode_spucc.so* xineplug_inp_mms.so* xineplug_decode_spu.so* xineplug_inp_net.so* xineplug_decode_sputext.so* xineplug_inp_rtp.so* xineplug_decode_svq1.so* xineplug_inp_stdin_fifo.so* xineplug_decode_vorbis.so*xineplug_inp_vcd.so* xineplug_decode_w32dll.so*xineplug_vo_out_fb.so* xineplug_dmx_asf.so* xineplug_vo_out_opengl.so* xineplug_dmx_avi.so* xineplug_vo_out_sdl.so* xineplug_dmx_cda.so* xineplug_vo_out_syncfb.so* xineplug_dmx_film.so* xineplug_vo_out_vidix.so* xineplug_dmx_fli.so* xineplug_vo_out_xshm.so* xineplug_dmx_idcin.so*xineplug_vo_out_xv.so* -- Len Lawrence Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Trojan alert - Australian IP (connect.com.au)
On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 09:59:58 +1300 John Rye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I didn't think I'd inferred they were coming thru the list. :-) > they're not. This address is only used for maillist traffic, so it was > a thought that maybe others on this list were getting them too. > > My ISP service doesn't do any scanning (says it's the enduser > responsibility!!), so I filter everything suspicious elsewhere and > take a wee peek now and then. > > Just as a statistic I've received 170 of these things since 15 > December, 87 from the same IP group. > > I'm not very concerned as there's no chance they'll get executed - no > windows in this cabin!! > > Cheers > > John Received one today ;-) How about that. Sorry, I thought you meant to the mailing-list. Try a "whois ", and report it to their ISP, explianing the quantity you are getting. I think that may help. This person sending it to you probably doesn't even know it. Greetings Ralph -- http://tuxpower.f2g.net/ http://axljab.homelinux.org:8080/ "I have opinions of my own, strong opinions, but I don't always agree with them." - George H. W. Bush Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Slow
> > Any thoughts. > > Geoff open up a console, launch "top" and you'll see something like this: -- 66 processes: 64 sleeping, 1 running, 1 zombie, 0 stopped CPU states: 11,9% user, 2,7% system, 0,0% nice, 9,3% idle Mem: 192132K av, 181268K used, 10864K free, 0K shrd,1960K buff Swap: 369484K av, 43396K used, 326088K free 92832K cached PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND 23543 user 17 0 1012 1012 796 R 4,7 0,5 0:00 top 1572 user 14 0 8656 7432 6684 S 1,8 3,8 36:15 kdeinit 1578 user 16 0 2996 2300 1840 S 0,9 1,1 57:57 artsd 1 root 8 0 172 140 108 S 0,0 0,0 0:04 init 2 root 9 0 00 0 SW0,0 0,0 0:01 keventd 3 root 9 0 00 0 SW0,0 0,0 0:00 kapmd The first one in the list is the one taking up the biggest chunk of the CPU. watch top for a couple of nimutes and tell us what you see. Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Usability [was: Re: Mandrake Financial Problems]
On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 14:55, Kesav Tadimeti wrote: > Hi All, > I believe, windows 2000,is a relatively stable OS for desktop uses. I use it > at work, and it does not need a reboot as often as NT 4.0 used to. > BTW, Yesterday's newspaper (here in New Delhi) carried an ad from Microsoft > claiming that it has the most stable & secure Server OS (Windows 2000 > Datacentre edition) around. They also claim that compared to UNIX, the TCO > is 49% less and 22% less compared to Linux. > > At the end of day, it is an IT manager who, being ignorant of real issues, > makes purchase decisions, so that he doesn't get singled out for following > the masses. > > Tadimeti Kesav How absolutely true. I'm rather thankful that alot of managers that I have worked either side-by-side with, or directly under have had open minds, and have had the ability to "see in a bigger picture" - with tight budgets and less and less manpower, they had to make some decisions that could have gone a Microsoft way, but ended up going the way of "least work involved, and if it works really well, we don't tell". In the past I was more than happy to setup and install an OS/2 server for a group of telecom engineers that DEMANDED an NT box - back when NT 4.0 wasn't really as stable as MS claimed - the box still lives and serves files today - and that was in 1997 - very few reboots, very few changes made to the box. Just works. At Samsung Telecom America in Richardson, Tx., I helped to install RH5 boxes to ease the DNS burden on the network - one per floor and one in the warehouse in Plano - management - higher management - not the IT department, literally demanded that all of that be done on NT, but when faced with purchasing 2 $15,000 boxes AND the software, they choose to let us, the IT department, use 486's w/ RH5 that were already in stock and on hand (Samsung builds computers, remember) and the job was completed in two days time by two guys. I've seen how some management is coerced and hornswaggled into heavy purchases - especially MS purchases, but at the end of the day (a real working day, not a 9 to 5 bankers day) it's what works that SHOULD be chosen - and I do say SHOULD. I find it rather strange that there are times where upper management makes these types of decisions for entire IT infrastructures - based on either hearsay or just on advertisement - yet, they're the ones that whinge the loudest when it takes a single tech all day to fix one damn computer running a Microsoft product...but they're the ones that made the decision in the first place... When I was at Siemens, most support calls came from NT and from Windows98. We had 50+ Sun workstations - in the time I was there, I had one call on a Sun running Solaris - and it was to connect a new Sun box to the network. 5 minute job - up, running, no probs. Yet, about six months later, one of the "managers" (soon-to-be-ex-manager) wanted to move all the engineers on the Sun boxes to NT 4.0 on 300GL IBM machines...upper management ALMOST went for it (and it would have been a very pricey purchase), until we showed them our support reports on the Sun workstations. Nicht NT! (g) It's sad that some people in such positions have to be yanked in a direction that is going to cost more money and time in the long run - but I guess that's the way that the world goes round...sad but true. -- Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kuhn Media Australia Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Slow
On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 13:19, Geoff Thomas wrote: > I have installed LM 9.0. It was running OK, but suddenly slowed down > to a crawl. Rebooted and it is still slow. It works but launcing a > console takes over one minute. I reinstalled and it worked until I > shut down and then on reboot it slowed again. > I am using KDE 3.0. > AMD 600 mHz processor with plenty of memory. LM 8.1 worked great. > > Any thoughts. > > Geoff There could be several reasons why this is happening, but overall, one thing you can do is to make sure you have the latest video drivers for your graphics adaptor - that helps in and of itself; second is to make sure that you have only the services running that you WANT to have running. Thirdly, is to either let updatdb run, or start it manually - this is a db of every single file in your file system - when the db is kept up to date, then disk access is far faster overall. Alot of performance issues can be related to so many different things - so starting at the beginning and eliminating possibles helps to narrow down the field a bit. Try all of the above first and then let us know how that goes... -- Tue Jan 21 15:45:00 EST 2003 3:45pm up 5 days, 1:28, 5 users, load average: 0.13, 0.23, 0.18 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ |"| | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;"""/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' " " | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- You did something because it had always been done, and the explanation was "but we've always done it this way." A million dead people can't have been wrong, can they? (The Fifth Elephant) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[OT]:RE: [newbie] Its official.... :-(
Hi Kal, In India, RedHat and Debian are popular. Haven't heard of ELR. And no, Indians have *NO* plans to take over to innovate a new distro, not to speak of taking up French govt. contracts. Tadimeti Kesav KEANE INDIA Ltd. E9 - E12, SDF NEPZ NOIDA - 201 305 U.P, INDIA Telefon: +91-120-256 8210 (371) e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] India ELR (or some such), Germany S.u.s.E. etc.,etc.. Is it even thinkable that the French govt. would scuttle its only linux-distro and let the Germans / Brits / Yankees / Chinese / Indians take over ? Knowing the Frenchies, I think not. Kaj Haulrich Denmark. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CD Writer/DMA
> > Or normally something along the lines or an input/output error. Is this > error caused because the data is not being read quick enough to pipe > throught to cdrecord? most likely. That cdrecord output you posted there was at 31% fifo fill... that's hardly a good level. And then: Sense Code: 0x0C Qual 0x09 (write error - loss of streaming) Fru 0x0 "Loss of streaming"... > Is this a DMA issue? I read some posts here before regarding turning on DMA just in case: hdparm -d1 /dev/devicename However i would not bet on DMA being the problem. As a rule of thumb, i NEVER do cd-to-cd copy on the fly. It is faster, yes, but what happens when dd if=/dev/cdrom gets stuck trying to read one sector from beneath a scratch in the middle of the burning session? At 16x speed, it's really not hard to get a buffer underrun... If you are absolutely in love with this method, try lower speeds and always make sure the original CD is in good condition. > with hdparm. Could this help? Probably, a bit. Damian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Wheel mouse in applications
I had a similar issue with my mouse attached to the PS2 port. Couldn't get it to work in MDK 9 at all. Put the adapter on and plugged into USB and it works fine. I have no ideas why. My son has similar computer (different mouse) and his works through USB port. Linus On Monday 20 January 2003 01:21, Brandon Vanderberg wrote: > On Sun, 2003-01-19 at 23:13, Rob Wideman wrote: > > > So it's safe to assume that you've rerun > > > "mousedrake" and all that jazz, > > > right? > > > > I am using a MS Optical usb/ps2 mouse attached to an > > Apex Outlook KVM when i installed MDK9. Once i got it > > installe i used mousedrake and selected the "generic > > ps2 wheel mouse" and clicked OK, after that anything > > that i did with the mouse it would go to the upper > > right corner and just start shaking. I changed the > > config file for X11 and nogo. Any thoughts on how to > > get the wheel working? > > > > Rob > > Same setup, had the same issue. Happens every time I install mdk. > Press down on the wheel and then scroll a little. Might take a few > times. > > If that doesn't do it (it should), hit ALT F7 and ALT F1. (or vice > versa, can't remember) In any case, it will reinit your mouse and you > should be good to go. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] M9.1beta2
On Monday 20 January 2003 06:32 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: > On Monday 20 January 2003 07:02 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: > > Charlie wrote: > > >On Monday 20 January 2003 05:15 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: > > >>When I started downloading M9.1beta2 that's all it was, but as I > > >>finished it became > > >>M9.1beta2-cd2, which puzzled me. > > >>I suppose that matters not but where is M9.1beta2-cd1 > > >>please see attatched , there does not seem to be a cd1. > > >>Anyone got any ideas what is going on. > > >> > > >>John > > > > > >Here's one John: > > > > > >ftp://ftp.ciril.fr/pub/linux/mandrake-iso/i586 > > > > ok, thanks, I'll give it a go. > > > > John > > John be sure to check the md5sum. I would be suspicious of that first cd > you got. cheers, Good advice. There may have been a (very unusual) replacement for CD-1 judging by the dates displayed. My ISOs of 9.1beta2 were dated the 16th, that one is the 17th. Or it may have something to do with the mirror sync trouble that apparently happened last week. Doesn't everyone do md5sum checksum before they go nuts? I always do. Cheers back; -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 http://counter.li.org The moving cursor writes, and having written, blinks on. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] M9.1beta2
On Monday 20 January 2003 07:02 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: > Charlie wrote: > >On Monday 20 January 2003 05:15 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: > >>When I started downloading M9.1beta2 that's all it was, but as I > >>finished it became > >>M9.1beta2-cd2, which puzzled me. > >>I suppose that matters not but where is M9.1beta2-cd1 > >>please see attatched , there does not seem to be a cd1. > >>Anyone got any ideas what is going on. > >> > >>John > > > >Here's one John: > > > >ftp://ftp.ciril.fr/pub/linux/mandrake-iso/i586 > > ok, thanks, I'll give it a go. > > John John be sure to check the md5sum. I would be suspicious of that first cd you got. cheers, -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] cdbakeoven
Anybody had cdbakeoven work since the latest round of security upgrades. I have tried reinstalling the Mandrake rpm and going and getting source. Neither works. The Mandrake rpm puts it in /opt and I am unable to find the executable file to start it . Somethings broke and I can't find the superglue! TIA for any advice. -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] M9.1beta2
Charlie wrote: On Monday 20 January 2003 05:15 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: When I started downloading M9.1beta2 that's all it was, but as I finished it became M9.1beta2-cd2, which puzzled me. I suppose that matters not but where is M9.1beta2-cd1 please see attatched , there does not seem to be a cd1. Anyone got any ideas what is going on. John Here's one John: ftp://ftp.ciril.fr/pub/linux/mandrake-iso/i586 ok, thanks, I'll give it a go. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Mappoint or similar program on Linux??
Has anyone gotten MS Mappoint to work in Wine? OR Has anyone seen a map program like MS Mappoint (or maps.yahoo.com or mapquest.com) on Linux?? The reason is b/c i travel with my laptop and a month ago i switched from Win2k to MDK9 and i am just needing a similar program on linux. Thanks Rob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Usability [was: Re: Mandrake Financial Problems]
On Monday 20 January 2003 05:17 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 11:02, Chuck Burns wrote: > > On Mon, January 20 2003 5:50 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > > *snip* > > > > > (And she's a soon-to-be linux user, ya reckon Chuck?) > > > > She uses it all the time, at my house, I just havent yet convinced her to > > forgoe her ill-begotten ways, and evil tendencencies. > > Here's how I do it at home - the 10 easy steps to converting a Windows > user into a Linux user: > > 1.) Give them a bare, blank, un-FDISK'ed drive, an 8mb ATI RagePro3D AGP > card, a motherboard with onboard sound (preferably a CMI based chipset), > a Logitech "Internet" keyboard, an off-the-shelf-no-name optical > wheelmouse, a PCI based Rockwell HCF/HCS/HST 56k vdf modem without a > name brand on the box, a boot CD for WindowsME, and a blessing. > > 2.) On day two, add an SB-Live! sound card and let them sort it out. > 3.) On day four, since they can't get the drivers working properly, give > them Win2k instead. > 4.) On day four, give them Win98SE and a blessing after they've spent > six hours trying to get Win2k working properly with anything. > 5.) On day five, removed the modem and reinstall the modem. > 6.) Let them look constantly over your should as you happily surf, do > email, watch DVD's, play games, print reports and do work - all on a > machine that hasn't been rebooted ONCE in the past two weeks. > 7.) After they get on the net and have three registry problems within > the first three hours of being on the net, and after they've watched the > system performance drop 50% after installing an antivirus program, > constantly elaborate on the "bug free" environment of linux. Send them > klez for giggles and grins > 8.) Since they've not been able to get all the drivers straight for all > the equipment and system performance is horribly slow, recommend a > complete reinstallation of Win98SE and keep the laughter to yourself. > 9.) Since they've gotten near the madness level, give them XP to > install. > 10.) After XP bombs out doing either a straight install or an upgrade > install, hand them your (put your distro name here) boot CD. I'm back on my chair now. I still have a headache and sore gut from laughing so hard, but I'll be OK. I thought I was the only one that did crap such as that to friends and family. You evil man you. :-) Regards; -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 http://counter.li.org I THINK THERE SHOULD BE SOMETHING in science called the "reindeer effect." I don't know what it would be, but I think it'd be good to hear someone say, "Gentlemen, what we have here is a terrifying example of the reindeer effect." -- Jack Handley, The New Mexican, 1988. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Xine - update
El Lun 20 Ene 2003 19:38, Anne Wilson escribió:
> I found that I had both installed. I've removed linxine0-0.9.13. Do I
> need to get rid of libxine1-1-0.beta2.plf and re-install it? I ran
> ldconfig -v but xine-check gave me
Anne, check your /etc/ld.so.conf This is mine:
/usr/X11R6/lib
/usr/lib/qt3/lib
/usr/lib/wine
/usr/lib
/usr/local/lib/
Re run ldconfig -v and xine-check.
This are the files that I have installed (+ decss)
xine_dmd_plugin1.0.7-1plf
xine-dvdnav1-0.beta2.1plf
xine-plugins1-0.beta2.1plf
xine-win32 1-0.beta2.1plf
xine-ui 0.9.17-1mdk
libxine1 1-0.beta2.1plf
But I think that a fresh install is a better way for you. Before doing this,
remember:
"If you haven't just forgotten to install a recent xine-lib (or xine-ui)
then you probably have upgraded from an older version and some of the
old files are still around, being in the way. Maybe it's even just some
bad leftover symlinks.
This can happen if you install from source or use a packaging
system that doesn't clean up previous installations thoroughly enough.
Remove all older xine libraries manually ("rm $prefix/lib/libxine*".
and while you're at it, throw away any old plugins in
$prefix/lib/xine/plugins/ as well, just to be safe.) Then install
xine-lib and xine-ui again. This should fix the problem."
file:/usr/share/doc/xine-ui-0.9.17/FAQ_en
Suerte.
> Anne
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Re: [newbie] VueScan
It seems that i can get better pictures scanning in windows than in linux with iscan. Maybe is because that iscan interface seems so "clean". BTW, what can i do to scan images frm gimp using iscan? Obrigado, Filipe Dinis Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] M9.1beta2
On Monday 20 January 2003 05:15 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: > When I started downloading M9.1beta2 that's all it was, but as I > finished it became > M9.1beta2-cd2, which puzzled me. > I suppose that matters not but where is M9.1beta2-cd1 > please see attatched , there does not seem to be a cd1. > Anyone got any ideas what is going on. > > John Here's one John: ftp://ftp.ciril.fr/pub/linux/mandrake-iso/i586 -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 http://counter.li.org If you live long enough, you'll see that every victory turns into a defeat. -- Simone de Beauvoir Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Image Conversion
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 19:27, John Richard Smith wrote: > Dennis Myers wrote: > > >On Monday 20 January 2003 04:36 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > >>On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 16:43, Adolfo Bello wrote: > >> > >> > >>>On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 16:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>> > >>> > Does anyone know of an image conversion program that will do jpeg to > dxf file conversions? > > Rich > > > >>>Raster-to-Vector conversion? > >>>Expensive and not so good even for raster blueprints. > >>> > >>> > >>Yeah, that's what I was afraid of; I no longer have access to AutoCAD. > >> > >>Rich > >> > >> > >Have you had a look at qcad. I don't know how good it is but it may be worth a > >look? Don't even know if it can use dxf or jpeg. Any way it is on the 9.0 > >power pack and may be on the d/l version, if not bet its on the net. > >HTH > > > > > > > > > QCAD is ok, I've used it a bit , done a couple of drawings, cannot say I > have extensive > knowledge, and whilst it is capable , instruction, if like me you have > had limited experience > with such a type of programme, is limited I have some experience with AutoCAD and what I have to do isn't all that complicated. QCAD is pretty basic and I don't think it'll be all that difficult. Rich -- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Image Conversion
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 20:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Check www.qcad.org > > I downloaded it today, nice program! Still can't do the conversion I > want, so I'm going to do it from scratch. > > Thanks- > > Rich I was about to recommend you doing so. -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / <_/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Image Conversion
Dennis Myers wrote: On Monday 20 January 2003 04:36 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 16:43, Adolfo Bello wrote: On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 16:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know of an image conversion program that will do jpeg to dxf file conversions? Rich Raster-to-Vector conversion? Expensive and not so good even for raster blueprints. Yeah, that's what I was afraid of; I no longer have access to AutoCAD. Rich Have you had a look at qcad. I don't know how good it is but it may be worth a look? Don't even know if it can use dxf or jpeg. Any way it is on the 9.0 power pack and may be on the d/l version, if not bet its on the net. HTH QCAD is ok, I've used it a bit , done a couple of drawings, cannot say I have extensive knowledge, and whilst it is capable , instruction, if like me you have had limited experience with such a type of programme, is limited. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Image Conversion
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 18:31, Adolfo Bello wrote: > On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 18:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 16:43, Adolfo Bello wrote: > > > On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 16:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Does anyone know of an image conversion program that will do jpeg to dxf > > > > file conversions? > > > > > > > > Rich > > > Raster-to-Vector conversion? > > > Expensive and not so good even for raster blueprints. > > > > Yeah, that's what I was afraid of; I no longer have access to AutoCAD. > > > > Rich > Check www.qcad.org I downloaded it today, nice program! Still can't do the conversion I want, so I'm going to do it from scratch. Thanks- Rich -- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] blurning cd's
I couldn't resist the pun... John, I am a James Joyce reader. I love puns ! I have been reading Finnegans Wake for some time now. I have downloaded and installed the lattest releases of cdrecord, mkisofs and cdda2wav. Francisco, thanks for the tip. Pilagá, gracias ! Anne Wilson, Stephen Kuhn thank you very much. Now I have to get more blank cd's :-) I have also downloaded most updates. There are tons of them and I have just a dial-up connection :-( BTW, do you know disk-cover ? It's cool ! http://home.wanadoo.nl/jano/disc-cover.html I intend to install Mplayer. Do you know the usual dependencies that show up? I'm running ML 9. Thank you. JM Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Usability [was: Re: Mandrake Financial Problems]
On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 11:02, Chuck Burns wrote: > On Mon, January 20 2003 5:50 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > *snip* > > (And she's a soon-to-be linux user, ya reckon Chuck?) > She uses it all the time, at my house, I just havent yet convinced her to > forgoe her ill-begotten ways, and evil tendencencies. Here's how I do it at home - the 10 easy steps to converting a Windows user into a Linux user: 1.) Give them a bare, blank, un-FDISK'ed drive, an 8mb ATI RagePro3D AGP card, a motherboard with onboard sound (preferably a CMI based chipset), a Logitech "Internet" keyboard, an off-the-shelf-no-name optical wheelmouse, a PCI based Rockwell HCF/HCS/HST 56k vdf modem without a name brand on the box, a boot CD for WindowsME, and a blessing. 2.) On day two, add an SB-Live! sound card and let them sort it out. 3.) On day four, since they can't get the drivers working properly, give them Win2k instead. 4.) On day four, give them Win98SE and a blessing after they've spent six hours trying to get Win2k working properly with anything. 5.) On day five, removed the modem and reinstall the modem. 6.) Let them look constantly over your should as you happily surf, do email, watch DVD's, play games, print reports and do work - all on a machine that hasn't been rebooted ONCE in the past two weeks. 7.) After they get on the net and have three registry problems within the first three hours of being on the net, and after they've watched the system performance drop 50% after installing an antivirus program, constantly elaborate on the "bug free" environment of linux. Send them klez for giggles and grins 8.) Since they've not been able to get all the drivers straight for all the equipment and system performance is horribly slow, recommend a complete reinstallation of Win98SE and keep the laughter to yourself. 9.) Since they've gotten near the madness level, give them XP to install. 10.) After XP bombs out doing either a straight install or an upgrade install, hand them your (put your distro name here) boot CD. -- Tue Jan 21 11:05:00 EST 2003 11:05am up 4 days, 20:48, 5 users, load average: 0.21, 0.16, 0.18 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ |"| | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;"""/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' " " | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- I'm sure that VMS is completely documented, I just haven't found the right manual yet. I've been working my way through the manuals in the document library and I'm half way through the second cabinet, (3 shelves to go), so I should find what I'm looking for by mid May. I hope I can remember what it was by the time I find it. I had this idea for a new horror film, "VMS Manuals from Hell" or maybe "The Paper Chase : IBM vs. DEC". It's based on Hitchcock's "The Birds", except that it's centered around a programmer who is attacked by a swarm of binder pages with an index number and the single line "This page intentionally left blank." -- Alex Crain Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] M9.1beta2
When I started downloading M9.1beta2 that's all it was, but as I finished it became M9.1beta2-cd2, which puzzled me. I suppose that matters not but where is M9.1beta2-cd1 please see attatched , there does not seem to be a cd1. Anyone got any ideas what is going on. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] <>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Kmail weird After KDE update
On Monday 20 January 2003 09:47 am, Derek Jennings wrote: > On Monday 20 Jan 2003 3:32 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: > > After doing the updates on the Mandrake security site for KDE my kmail is > > acting weird. When I click on some messages they suddenly say "no > > subject" and I can't read them. Also some messages don't change color > > after being read. Anyone else seen this problem. I like KDE so maybe it's > > time to just uninstall it and go back to the original 9.0 install of KDE. > > Anyone else seen this behaviour? > > It just means there is a mismatch in the contents of your mail folder and > the index to the folder ~/Mail/inbox.index The index is saying these > messages are in the folder, but they are not present. > I think if you delete the index a new one will be created when you next > start Kmail. (might be wise to make a backup just in case :) > > derek Thanks for the input derek. I ended up deleting most of the KDE stuff and reinstalling and then updating what I had reinstalled again. The problem seemed to still be there so I once more deleted the inbox.index and everything seems to have settled down now. Thanks for the help. -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: OT [newbie] A review with a twist...;-)
On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 11:02, Michael Adams wrote: > > > > Most of us won't ever forget where Mandrake originated. I think the trick > > is for Red Hat-ians (is that a word? ) to remember _why_ the branch > > happened. > > > > Red-hatters? Mad Hatters. -- Tue Jan 21 11:00:00 EST 2003 11:00am up 4 days, 20:43, 5 users, load average: 0.21, 0.23, 0.22 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ |"| | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;"""/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' " " | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- Today is a good day to bribe a high-ranking public official. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: OT [newbie] A review with a twist...;-)
> Most of us won't ever forget where Mandrake originated. I think the trick > is for Red Hat-ians (is that a word? ) to remember _why_ the branch > happened. Red-hatters? -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Problems installing on Compaq Preario
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 19:38, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > Best is here: > > http://mirrors.kernel.org/LDP/HOWTO/Installation-HOWTO/details.html#BOOTING Thankkss agaain. No mistyping here. Just that I haven't been able to get rid of this annoying bouncekey problem. It always reappears. I have tried xf86cfg and a small program called xkbset. Thanks again (after running the script to get rid of the problem for a random period of time) -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / <_/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Trojan alert - Australian IP (connect.com.au)
On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 16:50:56 +0100 Ralph Slooten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not me. I know my mail is scanned automatically on the server for > virusses, but I always get a warning, so no, it's not comming though > this side. Are you sure it's the mailing-list that he's sending to? I didn't think I'd inferred they were coming thru the list. :-) they're not. This address is only used for maillist traffic, so it was a thought that maybe others on this list were getting them too. My ISP service doesn't do any scanning (says it's the enduser responsibility!!), so I filter everything suspicious elsewhere and take a wee peek now and then. Just as a statistic I've received 170 of these things since 15 December, 87 from the same IP group. I'm not very concerned as there's no chance they'll get executed - no windows in this cabin!! Cheers John > > Greetings > Ralph > > On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 01:50:00 +1300 > John Rye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > While on the subject of trojans etc Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Usability [was: Re: Mandrake Financial Problems]
On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 10:30, Chuck Burns wrote: > On Mon, January 20 2003 5:21 pm, robin wrote: > *super.snip* > > > > I see the detoxification process is complete. Maybe we should have a > > 12-step program for Windows dependency. It should start with everyone > > getting up and saying "My name is ..., and I'm a Windows user." I must > > admit I haven't kicked the habit completely - I still tell myself "Well > > just one little reboot into Windows won't hurt." > > Sir Robin > *snip* > > Well.. If I can't do it in Linux, I don't need to do it. I have 3 computers, > one of which is a laptop, and none of them even have wine, much less any > installed windows at all. The only computer I use that has windows is my > fiancee's. (And she's a soon-to-be linux user, ya reckon Chuck?) -- Tue Jan 21 10:45:00 EST 2003 10:45am up 4 days, 20:28, 5 users, load average: 0.12, 0.16, 0.24 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ |"| | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;"""/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' " " | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- He felt that the darkness was full of unimaginable horrors - and the trouble with unimaginable horrors was that they were only too easy to imagine... (The Light Fantastic) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie]
On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 10:10, Michael Adams wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 09:02, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > > On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 02:36, Richard Gelling wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > You might want to sign this petition at > > > http://www.petitiononline.com/endtcpa1/petition.html re TCPA > > > > > > Richard G. > > > > > > Registered Linux User: 256848 > > > > Signed and forwarded. > > Sorry, this reads like Microsoft FUD. Does anyone have more facts? Press > releases etc. Surf around and read. You will find that this is, in fact, a reality. Unless you believe that letting the "big wigs" decide your content and decide the layout, content and access to "the internet" as you know it now, then forget it. The news is all around each of us - it's just a matter of digging to find it. Do you truly think that MS/HP/IBM WANT this stuff to be front page news? Nah. They don't. They want to pass bills, legislation and everything else without YOU knowing about it - because once you know about it, then they can't just up and do it. -- Tue Jan 21 10:40:00 EST 2003 10:40am up 4 days, 20:23, 5 users, load average: 0.08, 0.23, 0.29 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ |"| | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;"""/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' " " | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- The Monks of Cool, whose tiny and exclusive monastery is hidden in a really cool and laid-back valley in the lower Ramtops, have a passing-out test for a novice. He is taken into a room full of all types of clothing and asked: Yo, my son, which of these is the most stylish thing to wear? And the correct answer is: Hey, whatever I select. (Lords and Ladies) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] vi settings
As a suggestion, if you "play" with settings, try this. - Open the config file - SaveAs ~this.conf20030121 - SaveAs this.conf - play away to your hearts content commenting your mods using the comment system included in the file. - for any removals comment them out and state why - for any new inclusions comment stating why Where this.conf is the name of the file you are playing with. If you do multiple changes over time the date appended acts as an old version system. If you see a mod six months old or more then the play must have been a success. The "~" forces the old file to be listed after all others. Backup, backup, backup, doesn't just mean using one method. On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 01:30, Moshe Kaminsky wrote: > Hi, > > As far as I know, vi is either a link to or some version of vim (I don't > think the original vi had any :help command). If this is really so, I > think the help file is in /usr/share/vim/doc/help.txt. If this is so, > try doing > > :set helpfile=/usr/share/vim/doc/help.txt > > (inside vim). Also, inside vim do > > :echo $VIMRUNTIME > > This is a list of directories. Check that /usr/share/vim appears there, > and if not, add it (another way would be to create a link from > /usr/share/vim to /usr/share/vim/vim61; for some reason vim is not > installed according to the usual scheme). If all of this works, you may > put all of these settings in the .vimrc file in your home directory, or > in the system wide $VIM/vimrc (you can see the value of $VIM by doing > > :echo $VIM). > > If vi is not a version of vim just ignore everything I wrote... (you can > check this by doing :version inside vi(m). If this *is* vim, this will > also tell you where it looks for config files) > > Moshe > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Zane Minninger > > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 7:13 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [newbie] vi settings > > > > > > I am using vi at the command prompt. I'm not that proficient > > at it yet but > > MDK 8.2 had the right directory for the help file. The > > installation for > > 9.0 that I just installed gives me an error, can't find help.txt in > > /home/tv/ETC/help.txt. Where can I change where the > > program looks for > > the help file? I looked for a vi.config and such. I found > > the main vi > > directory, but I have been know to "play" with settings and > > never get it to > > work again. If anyone knows where or how I can load vi to > > point to the > > correct files, I would greatly appreciate it. Its a real > > pain to open > > another file manually with such a long directory tree. > > Zane Minninger -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lost X
On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 10:08, Richard Hackwith wrote: > I just upgraded from a nVidia TNT video card to a nVidia GeForce4 mx420, > and x wont start anymore. I am running Mdk 8.1. I tried running mcc but > there was no entry for GeForce4 in the list and none of the avaiable > entries would work. Previously I was only using the generic nvidia driver. > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks In Advance > > Richard > What you could do is to run XF86Config from the shell and choose ALL generic settings - this will rewrite your /etc/X11/XF86Config files - at least giving you a viable XWindows system - then reinstall the drivers again, make the necessary modifications to the configs as per the card, then you should be right! (all without reinstalling X) -- Tue Jan 21 10:40:00 EST 2003 10:40am up 4 days, 20:23, 5 users, load average: 0.08, 0.23, 0.29 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ |"| | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;"""/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' " " | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- The Monks of Cool, whose tiny and exclusive monastery is hidden in a really cool and laid-back valley in the lower Ramtops, have a passing-out test for a novice. He is taken into a room full of all types of clothing and asked: Yo, my son, which of these is the most stylish thing to wear? And the correct answer is: Hey, whatever I select. (Lords and Ladies) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Image Conversion
On Monday 20 January 2003 04:36 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 16:43, Adolfo Bello wrote: > > On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 16:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Does anyone know of an image conversion program that will do jpeg to > > > dxf file conversions? > > > > > > Rich > > > > Raster-to-Vector conversion? > > Expensive and not so good even for raster blueprints. > > Yeah, that's what I was afraid of; I no longer have access to AutoCAD. > > Rich Have you had a look at qcad. I don't know how good it is but it may be worth a look? Don't even know if it can use dxf or jpeg. Any way it is on the 9.0 power pack and may be on the d/l version, if not bet its on the net. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Problems installing on Compaq Preario
On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 09:53, Adolfo Bello wrote: > On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 15:49, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > > > And you should be able to pass options to the kernel as well - which is > > something else to dig into... > > > > Here are some kernel params to try > > > > July 2000 Kernel Parameters v2.4.0 > > ~ > Stephen, could you please post a link pointing to more information about > passing kernel parameters? > > TIA Best is here: http://mirrors.kernel.org/LDP/HOWTO/Installation-HOWTO/details.html#BOOTING -- Tue Jan 21 10:35:01 EST 2003 10:35am up 4 days, 20:18, 5 users, load average: 0.20, 0.26, 0.31 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ |"| | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;"""/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' " " | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- Remember: Silly is a state of Mind, Stupid is a way of Life. -- Dave Butler Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT - Spam at it's greatest
On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 09:50, Anne Wilson wrote: > I finally got it - the great Nigerian money-laundering scam email. I haven't > seen one of those since I got it by fax years ago, though I knew they were > still around. :) > > Anne Just be sure to send it to everyone else that you know so that they can get in on such a wonderful deal as well - God knows we all want a piece of that pie! -- Tue Jan 21 10:30:00 EST 2003 10:30am up 4 days, 20:13, 5 users, load average: 0.12, 0.39, 0.37 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ |"| | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;"""/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' " " | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- Black shiny mollies and bright colored guppies, Shy little angels as gentle as puppies, Swimming and diving with scarcely a swish, They were just some of my tropical fish. Then I got mantas that sting in the water, Deadly piranhas that itch for a slaughter, Savage male betas that bite with a squish, Now I have many less tropical fish. If you think that Fish are peaceful That's an empty wish. Just dump them together And leave them alone, And soon you will have -- no fish. -- To My Favorite Things Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Image Conversion
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 18:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 16:43, Adolfo Bello wrote: > > On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 16:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Does anyone know of an image conversion program that will do jpeg to dxf > > > file conversions? > > > > > > Rich > > Raster-to-Vector conversion? > > Expensive and not so good even for raster blueprints. > > Yeah, that's what I was afraid of; I no longer have access to AutoCAD. > > Rich Check www.qcad.org -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / <_/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Usability [was: Re: Mandrake Financial Problems]
On Mon, January 20 2003 5:21 pm, robin wrote: *super.snip* > > I see the detoxification process is complete. Maybe we should have a > 12-step program for Windows dependency. It should start with everyone > getting up and saying "My name is ..., and I'm a Windows user." I must > admit I haven't kicked the habit completely - I still tell myself "Well > just one little reboot into Windows won't hurt." > Sir Robin *snip* Well.. If I can't do it in Linux, I don't need to do it. I have 3 computers, one of which is a laptop, and none of them even have wine, much less any installed windows at all. The only computer I use that has windows is my fiancee's. -- Chuck Burns, Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ---==--- "Cogito ergo I'm right and you're wrong." -- Blair Houghton Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Image Conversion
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 17:44, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Monday 20 Jan 2003 10:36 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 16:43, Adolfo Bello wrote: > > > On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 16:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Does anyone know of an image conversion program that will do jpeg to > > > > dxf file conversions? > > > > > > > > Rich > > > > > > Raster-to-Vector conversion? > > > Expensive and not so good even for raster blueprints. > > > > Yeah, that's what I was afraid of; I no longer have access to AutoCAD. > > > You say you have the files in dxf format? Jan says that Star/OpenOffice Draw > can handle vector formats. It's worth a try. But it wouldn't handle the > jpgs, I'm fairly sure. No, I have the opposite problem, a floor plan in jpg format that I'd like to modify in QCAD, which works in dxf (drawing interchange program). Rich -- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT - Spam at it's greatest
Brandon Vanderberg wrote: On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 14:50, Anne Wilson wrote: I finally got it - the great Nigerian money-laundering scam email. I haven't seen one of those since I got it by fax years ago, though I knew they were still around. :) Anne Who'd you get? I have 2 from Dr. Uba Jega. I'd be willing to part with one if you've got something different. Mint condition! Here's a great money-making idea - spam trading cards! (just trying to rile the list-nazis here) Sir Robin -- "Difficulty is a coin which the learned conjure with so as not to reveal the vanity of their studies." - Montaigne Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Lost X
I doubt that the GF4 will be supported in any way by mdk8.1. Either grab the driver from nVidia's website and follow directions or upgrade, either to 8.2 or 9.0. On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 17:08, Richard Hackwith wrote: > I just upgraded from a nVidia TNT video card to a nVidia GeForce4 mx420, > and x wont start anymore. I am running Mdk 8.1. I tried running mcc but > there was no entry for GeForce4 in the list and none of the avaiable > entries would work. Previously I was only using the generic nvidia driver. -- Jason Guidry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Usability [was: Re: Mandrake Financial Problems]
walt wrote: On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 13:05, daRcmaTTeR wrote: On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Colin McElhatton wrote: The single BIGGEST problem for end user to this day remains being able to "find" the information that will get them going and *their* willingness to avail themselves of that information and learn it. simply dumbing down the interface and the core processes of the system will _never_ make a better, more usable system. It only makes one weaker and far less stable. I believe windows is perfect proof of this. Like Walt, I respectfully disagree. The reason Windows is buggy (to put it mildly) is not that they dumbed down the interface (which is no easier to use than any other popular GUI I know of) but that they thought that if they made a pretty, easy-to-use GUI, they could forget about the kerbnel (or whatever they call kernels in Microstan). As Bill Gates himself said, "If you can't make it good, make it look good." The rot set in before Windows came out - the reason DOS got it's name was that it was a slightly altered version of an OS called QDOS, which stood for Quick and Dirty Operating System. IMHO, Mandrake is a good example of how to make things easy without system sacrifices. In particular, it has the easiest installation and configuration software I know of. But it is this "dumbing down" that will sell linux (and this is a shame!!!) ..people do not want to do anything but turn on a computer and have everything work the first time, every time. That's why there are Macintoshes. I've lost track of the number of people to whom I've said "If you're not heavily into games and want a computer that just works, shell out the extra money for a Macintosh" (I'm not a traitor to the cause - I just don't want computer illiterates trying to use Linux then dissing it because they screw up with Linux just as much as they did with Linux). Windows - designed for dummies by dummies Linux - designed for clever people by clever people Macintosh - designed for dummies by clever people Or as Dave Barry put it: "The other type of computer is the 'Apple', which I do not recommend, as it is a New Age wussorama computer that you basically just plug in and use." Actually, in a strange kind of way, I'm glad IBM gave the contract for developing a PC-compatible operating system to a bunch of long-haired ne'er-do-wells like Microsoft. Otherwise, Apple might have ruled the desktop world, and we'd be faced with a hardware monopoly as well as a software monopoly. Linux has come a long way since I first tried it 5 years ago. I do not have everything working properly yet but I know that I will because I am willing to do some research and ask questions. That's why _you_ don't need to spend the extra money for a Mac! I've had my share of problems with Linux, just as I did with Windows. The difference is that when I finally fixed a problem in Windows, I still had very little idea about what was going on (incidentally I used to have a book called something like "Windows 95 Bugs", and it was a looong book). When I fix a problem in Linux - or even sometimes when I fail to fix it - I usually learn something useful. I have winxp on another hard drive but haven't used it for about a week or so now. (I actually thought that I couldn't live without it, LOL) I see the detoxification process is complete. Maybe we should have a 12-step program for Windows dependency. It should start with everyone getting up and saying "My name is ..., and I'm a Windows user." I must admit I haven't kicked the habit completely - I still tell myself "Well just one little reboot into Windows won't hurt." I recently met a colleague who is vaguely familiar with Linux, but uses Windows XP because he has a lot of "legit" Windows software he's paid for (unusual in this country) and wants to get his money's worth. That's like people who go to the cinema, don't like the film, but stay until the end because they've paid for their tickets. Sir Robin -- "Difficulty is a coin which the learned conjure with so as not to reveal the vanity of their studies." - Montaigne Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Image Conversion
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 18:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 16:43, Adolfo Bello wrote: > > On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 16:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Does anyone know of an image conversion program that will do jpeg to dxf > > > file conversions? > > > > > > Rich > > Raster-to-Vector conversion? > > Expensive and not so good even for raster blueprints. > > Yeah, that's what I was afraid of; I no longer have access to AutoCAD. I haven't tried, but it seems that R14 works on Linux using Wine. Check the newsgroup: comp.emulators.ms-windows.wine Regards. -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / <_/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT - Spam at it's greatest
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 14:50, Anne Wilson wrote: > I finally got it - the great Nigerian money-laundering scam email. I haven't > seen one of those since I got it by fax years ago, though I knew they were > still around. :) > > Anne Who'd you get? I have 2 from Dr. Uba Jega. I'd be willing to part with one if you've got something different. Mint condition! ;) http://www.quatloos.com/cm-niger/nigerian_scam_letter_museum.htm -- ~Brandon http://www.vanderberg.net Linux 2.4.19-16mdk - Love is being stupid together. -- Paul Valery signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [newbie] Strange behavior in 9.1betas
On Sunday 19 January 2003 02:46 pm, Charlie wrote: > > > BTW I have one empty 30 GB (Reiser FS formatted) partition called > > > /store available on hdb. Would that be more appropriate? Since I'm > > > going to mirror the entirety of cooker it may become useful for someone > > > down the line. No longer an empty partition. It's full of complete mirror of cooker as of 5:45 AM MST. Unfortunately there's a problem which I'll get into later. > > > > It certainly is. If you are concerned about you bandwidth and harddrive > > space you can also make a file (i called it 'ignore.txt') where you list > > all the packages that you are not interested in downloading. So if you > > are using it solely as a desktop you can put apache, and other servers in > > that file and it shall not sync them. Then you have to use the additional > > switch with rsync: I was so !worried about space and bandwidth that I didn't exclude anything at all. It's a complete copy of what's on sunet.se. > > rsync -avrt --progress --delete --exclude-from=/home/nanook/ignore.txt > > ftp.sunet.se::Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586 /home/nanook/burn/cooker/ > > Perfect. Thank you. > Onward and sideways. My install is a slight bit broken in some respect and I don't have a clue how to find the problem to file a bug report or fix it. To wit: For some reason my CD-ROM is being identified by harddrake as dev/scd0. It's identified by name but, Bus: SCSI Location on the bus: 0:0 Channel: 00 New devfs device: scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/cd Old device file: /dev/scd0 Floppy format: LITEON CD-ROM LTN403L Media class: cdrom is in no way correct. There's no scsi interface in this box and I clicked no at the installer question. To try to figure out whether it was a hardware problem I actually re-installed Mandrake 9.0 in a different hard drive and there was no trouble. In fact fstab has what seems to be correct listings for the CD-ROM and my CD-RW (Mitsumi CR-4804 TE) which is connected and jumpered as slave on the second IDE channel with the LiteOn. The only clue I have is this one: Vendor: Intel Corporation Bus: PCI Bus identification: 8086:7111 Location on the bus: 0:7:1 Description: 82371AB PIIX4 IDE Module: unknown Media class: STORAGE_IDE I don't know if this is a harddrake problem, a devfs problem, or both. The whole point here is that I can't update through urpmi or Software Manager since the "CD-1 is not enabled" error happens no matter what I do. Does anyone have a hint? I'll send an edited copy of this to the cooker list and take the ragging or ignoring I know will result, but I can't make a useful bug report or help analyze the trouble if I don't know where the hell to start looking. Thanks for any suggestions offered. Regards; -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 http://counter.li.org How can you govern a nation which has 246 kinds of cheese? -- Charles de Gaulle Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Lost X
I just upgraded from a nVidia TNT video card to a nVidia GeForce4 mx420, and x wont start anymore. I am running Mdk 8.1. I tried running mcc but there was no entry for GeForce4 in the list and none of the avaiable entries would work. Previously I was only using the generic nvidia driver. Any suggestions? Thanks In Advance Richard *** <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> *** Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie]
On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 09:02, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 02:36, Richard Gelling wrote: > > Hi > > > > You might want to sign this petition at > > http://www.petitiononline.com/endtcpa1/petition.html re TCPA > > > > Richard G. > > > > Registered Linux User: 256848 > > Signed and forwarded. Sorry, this reads like Microsoft FUD. Does anyone have more facts? Press releases etc. -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] OT - Spam at it's greatest
I finally got it - the great Nigerian money-laundering scam email. I haven't seen one of those since I got it by fax years ago, though I knew they were still around. :) Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CD Writer/DMA
> If they aren't DRM disks what fs was written to them? Are they VFAT > (Windows 32 bit format) or something else? If they're disks that were > recorded not pressed at a factory; who did it, what software was used to do > it, and can you actually *read the disks* when not trying to copy them? It's a variety. How can I copy protected cds. I noticve a thread earlier about cd clone on windows. It surely must be possible to copy "bit by bit" under linux? My drive is a Plextor 16/10/40A. > Since you can't write at those speeds at present anyway (can you copy the > disks at a lower speed?) you may as well try enabling DMA to see if it Yes I can. I can write at 16 if I am writing an ISO or something else. > makes a difference. If your drives actually support it. The worst that > could happen is probably a coaster. How can I enable that? Which drives the dvd rom and the cd writer? Thanks for you help, Jord -- Jordan Elver There's no 'I' in 'team'. But then there's no 'I' in 'useless smug colleague', either. And there's four in 'platitude-quoting idiot'. Go figure. -- David Brent (The Office) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Problems installing on Compaq Preario
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 15:49, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > And you should be able to pass options to the kernel as well - which is > something else to dig into... > > Here are some kernel params to try > > July 2000 Kernel Parameters v2.4.0 > ~ Stephen, could you please post a link pointing to more information about passing kernel parameters? TIA -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / <_/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Financial Problems
On Monday 20 Jan 2003 10:26 pm, walt wrote: > On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 13:05, daRcmaTTeR wrote: > > On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Colin McElhatton wrote: > > > > > > The single BIGGEST problem for end user to this day remains being able to > > "find" the information that will get them going and *their* willingness > > to avail themselves of that information and learn it. simply dumbing down > > the interface and the core processes of the system will _never_ make a > > better, more usable system. It only makes one weaker and far less stable. > > I believe windows is perfect proof of this. > > But it is this "dumbing down" that will sell linux (and this is a > shame!!!) Why? Why can't we have a default install that's as dumbed down as you like, will handle all your basic needs, and let you get on with your more urgent needs as though you were still in windows. Then you can learn more at your own speed. After all, you will have some free time now there's no longer all those 'need to reboot' messages to say nothing of crashes and re-installs. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Image Conversion
On Monday 20 Jan 2003 10:36 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 16:43, Adolfo Bello wrote: > > On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 16:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Does anyone know of an image conversion program that will do jpeg to > > > dxf file conversions? > > > > > > Rich > > > > Raster-to-Vector conversion? > > Expensive and not so good even for raster blueprints. > > Yeah, that's what I was afraid of; I no longer have access to AutoCAD. > You say you have the files in dxf format? Jan says that Star/OpenOffice Draw can handle vector formats. It's worth a try. But it wouldn't handle the jpgs, I'm fairly sure. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Xine - update
On Monday 20 Jan 2003 9:18 pm, Pilagá wrote: > El Lun 20 Ene 2003 13:47, Anne Wilson escribió: > > I came to the conclusion that I had a mixed installation, 0.9.13 and > > 0.9.17, so I asked for uninstallation of xine, and started installer > > again. It appeared that I could only have dvd-nav with 0.9.17, so I > > carefully left out all the 0.9.13 files and re-installed. I now have a > > dvd button. Starting xine gives me the copyright warning, and lists the > > first track, but doesn't play any further. > > > > I ran the command you gave, but it suggests that I still have parts of > > the old version there. Perhaps that's what's causing the problem. > > Anyway, here is the output (I left out the first few lines that don't > > help much - they were all OK). I do hope you can advise me. > > You also need to uninstall libxine0-0.9.13x and install > libxine1-1-0.beta2.plf then, ldconfig -v > I found that I had both installed. I've removed linxine0-0.9.13. Do I need to get rid of libxine1-1-0.beta2.plf and re-install it? I ran ldconfig -v but xine-check gave me [ good ] plugin directory /usr/lib/xine/plugins exists. [ good ] found input plugins [OUCH!!] There are no demux plugins. xine needs at least one demux plugin, but none is installed. You should probably reinstall xine-lib... press to continue... [OUCH!!] There are no decoder plugins. xine needs at least one decoder plugin, but none is installed. You should probably reinstall xine-lib... press to continue... [OUCH!!] There are no video_out plugins. xine needs at least one video_out plugin, but none is installed. You should probably reinstall xine-lib... press to continue... [ good ] found audio_out plugins [ good ] skin directory /usr/share/xine/skins exists. [ good ] found logo in /usr/share/xine/skins [ good ] I even found some skins. There are a huge number of what look like plugins to me in /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.0.0. Should I move them up a directory? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] My order finally arrived (sort of)
On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 09:06, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > Well, about 3 months ago I ordered the DVD + manuals of Mandrakes' v9.0 > Powerpack release. > > I got my order today. (after several e-mails and Lyvims' help) > > I got the 7 CD Powerpack version instead. No receipt in the box. > > After 3 months, I guess I should count myself lucky... Like I said before, probably got stuck trying to figure out how to get the stuff from Hazard down through Vicco, then to Whitesburg, then down to y'alls neck of the woods...mule trains don't move fast, ya know... -- Tue Jan 21 09:40:00 EST 2003 9:40am up 4 days, 19:23, 5 users, load average: 0.27, 0.14, 0.10 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ |"| | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;"""/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' " " | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- What the gods would destroy they first submit to an IEEE standards committee. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Image Conversion
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 16:43, Adolfo Bello wrote: > On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 16:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Does anyone know of an image conversion program that will do jpeg to dxf > > file conversions? > > > > Rich > Raster-to-Vector conversion? > Expensive and not so good even for raster blueprints. Yeah, that's what I was afraid of; I no longer have access to AutoCAD. Rich -- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [Oh Tee - kinda] A review with a twist...;-)
On Monday 20 January 2003 02:38 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > > That's OK I question it constantly myself. > > (What, you're a married man, too, eh?) Sadly (or happily depending on the cognates) I'm divorced. Twice. lol > > I think the consensus is (still) Stephen that Mandrake has done more to > > make GNU/Linux "Windows easy, user friendly" than any other distribution. > > This may be true from *your* perspective - but having been using both > "in parallel", I have to assert that it's a matter of preference. You > like Molson Golden, and Fred likes Labatt's. This can lead to both going > on and on in an incessant loop forever - as I've seen before - but it > really doesn't matter in the long run - the matter IS, though, that both > are using the same basic operating system - the matter of how it is > tailored and packaged is of no real importance. Linux (the kernel) + tailoring and packaging (RH, Lycoris, Mandrake, Debian, etc) = a distribution. Correct? Tailoring and packaging are IMHO *all important* for someone that's terrified of the name GNU/Linux. I have two friends that ran Mandrake for almost a year before I admitted that it was actually a GNU/Linux distribution. The only reason I did so was a conversation in a social setting about how expensive Windows is getting; and the suggestion of another party present (World's Greatest Authority type) was something like "Why don't you try Linux." Pronounced incorrectly of course. The response was "OH no, that's too hard." When I told them what they had actually been using all that time I had another good laugh. E-mail, surfing, tunes, that's about the extent of their use. One was suspicious since she hadn't rebooted in, well, forever. > > I have seen both distros installed by complete neophytes. I have seen > the exact same trends from that point forward. For as much as you might > say that RH is difficult to get drivers for, it can be countered with > the same statement about Mandrake - hence, both have their > idiosyncrasies - as does each and every other distro. Being part of both > lists (Newbies for RH and Newbies for Mandrake) I see and each the exact > same things over and over again - but in different contexts - just the > name changes with the list. I've noticed the same Stephen. In fact as a neophyte I've actually installed both. Idiosyncrasies are what one either loves or hates in a distribution, aren't they? Drivers aren't generally as much of a problem with either RH or Mandrake as they are with Windows and that's the comparison I didn't make clearly. Sorry about that. RH difficult? No, not really any more Stephen. Just different. Around here "Linux" and Red Hat are offered (incorrectly and unfairly IMO) as synonyms; with implications of any evil one might want to imagine. For some reason Mandrake hasn't been branded that way as a name. Once people see how sweet things can be when led from the darkness, the other distros have a chance. In order to teach someone about choice you first have to break them out of their preconceived notions. Anything that I can do to keep the "grass roots" explosion expanding is what I'll do. Installing different distributions for different end users for different purposes is just a part of that. I'm not exactly too shy to evangelize GNU/Linux generically or as a specific distribution. Whatever works. OK? > > I can go one better with a client of mine - very very recent; the client > was having more than usual troubles in setting up the MDK 9 distro - and > all help, all information, all the "try this try that" didn't work at > all - he could not get a working system up that was viable. After a 35 > minute installation of RH 8.0, the customer was unbelievably ecstatic > seeing at seeing FINALLY what the result of the installation was - a > beautiful desktop, working programs, network connectivity. > > This can be turned around the other way switching Mandrake for RH as > well - same basic circumstances - RH install failed miserably, but MDK > went flawlessly. Yep. > > Flogging RH because you like Mandrake is really a "nether" issue - > Mandrake spawned from RH - so some respect should be given - and RH has > done more than any distribution for bring it not only further out to the > public in a nice package, but has come up with wonderful utilities and > standards (RPM) that make the Mandrake distribution so nice. RH made > huge inroads into the corporate sector - and you should respect that as > well - as it opens the doors for other distributions to be used > likewise. I've never really flogged the distributions individually or severally Stephen. I ask questions (too many perhaps) and give advice when asked based on what I know about an acquaintance's or friend's hardware and my own experience with a specific distribution. But I truly *don't like RED.* The colour, not the OS under the hat. > > > Most of us won't ever forget where Mandrake originated. I think the trick > > is f
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Financial Problems
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 13:05, daRcmaTTeR wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Colin McElhatton wrote: > > The single BIGGEST problem for end user to this day remains being able to > "find" the information that will get them going and *their* willingness to > avail themselves of that information and learn it. simply dumbing down the > interface and the core processes of the system will _never_ make a better, > more usable system. It only makes one weaker and far less stable. I > believe windows is perfect proof of this. But it is this "dumbing down" that will sell linux (and this is a shame!!!) ..people do not want to do anything but turn on a computer and have everything work the first time, every time. Linux has come a long way since I first tried it 5 years ago. I do not have everything working properly yet but I know that I will because I am willing to do some research and ask questions. I have winxp on another hard drive but haven't used it for about a week or so now. (I actually thought that I couldn't live without it, LOL) -- walt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Which file system?
On Monday January 20 2003 02:37 pm, et wrote: > On Monday 20 January 2003 03:01 pm, daRcmaTTeR wrote: > > On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Tom Brinkman wrote: It shouldn't make a > > > differnence, but Civileme use to always recommend that a small > > > ext3 /boot partition be used. Then any and all other partitions > > > (/, /home, and so on) can be either XFS or ReiserFS. IME, this > > > does seem to provide the best results. I've found ReiserFS to > > > be faster than XFS on a desktop system. > > > > Hi Tom, > > > > I don't recall the reasoning behind that. why was it that the > > /boot partition should be ext3 and the rest being foratted as > > ReiserFS? > > as I recall it had to do with early Reiser and if it was compiled > in instead of being a module added to the kernel at startup, if the > reiserFS was a module and hosed the boot would not compete, but if > the kernel had reiser complied in it was no problem, and this was > reiser like in MDK 7.2 or 8.0 I dunno, ask Civileme. But, ever since he recommended it, and I've done it ... no gremlins. BTW, I've never needed to compile RFS into the kernel. I've always used it as a module. RFS and some other FS's only fail if you init.rd image is hosed. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] My order finally arrived (sort of)
Well, about 3 months ago I ordered the DVD + manuals of Mandrakes' v9.0 Powerpack release. I got my order today. (after several e-mails and Lyvims' help) I got the 7 CD Powerpack version instead. No receipt in the box. After 3 months, I guess I should count myself lucky... -- /\ Dark< >Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Image Conversion
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 16:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Does anyone know of an image conversion program that will do jpeg to dxf > file conversions? > > Rich Raster-to-Vector conversion? Expensive and not so good even for raster blueprints. -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / <_/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CD Writer/DMA
On Monday 20 January 2003 10:02 am, Jordan Elver wrote: > Hi, > I'm currentlycopying cds on the fly with the following command: > > dd if=/dev/cdrom | cdrecord dev=0,2,0 speed= -v - > > The problem is that I can't actually use 12 or 16 speed recording, > depemding on the disk I am copying. I get a message from cdrecord saying: > > Track 01: 25 MB written (fifo 31%) [buf 12%] 12.4x.cdrecord: > Input/output error. write_g1: scsi sendcmd: no error > CDB: 2A 00 00 00 32 60 00 00 1F 00 > status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) > Sense Bytes: F0 00 03 00 00 32 F8 0A 00 00 00 00 0C 09 00 00 > Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, Segment 0 > Sense Code: 0x0C Qual 0x09 (write error - loss of streaming) Fru 0x0 > Sense flags: Blk 13048 (valid) > cmd finished after 0.051s timeout 40s > > write track data: error after 26411008 bytes > Sense Bytes: 70 00 00 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 > > Or normally something along the lines or an input/output error. Is this > error caused because the data is not being read quick enough to pipe > throught to cdrecord? > > Is this a DMA issue? I read some posts here before regarding turning on DMA > with hdparm. Could this help? > > Thanks for any help, > Jordan Are these write protected (DRM) disks? Games, music, etc., many of which have copy protection "built in." The error messages look familiar somehow. If they aren't DRM disks what fs was written to them? Are they VFAT (Windows 32 bit format) or something else? If they're disks that were recorded not pressed at a factory; who did it, what software was used to do it, and can you actually *read the disks* when not trying to copy them? Since you can't write at those speeds at present anyway (can you copy the disks at a lower speed?) you may as well try enabling DMA to see if it makes a difference. If your drives actually support it. The worst that could happen is probably a coaster. Regards; -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 http://counter.li.org Honesty is for the most part less profitable than dishonesty. -- Plato Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [Oh Tee - kinda] A review with a twist...;-)
On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 08:04, Charlie wrote: > Stephen; > > Just as an excuse to have you pop in and question my sanity. That's OK I > question it constantly myself. > (What, you're a married man, too, eh?) > I think the consensus is (still) Stephen that Mandrake has done more to make > GNU/Linux "Windows easy, user friendly" than any other distribution. > This may be true from *your* perspective - but having been using both "in parallel", I have to assert that it's a matter of preference. You like Molson Golden, and Fred likes Labatt's. This can lead to both going on and on in an incessant loop forever - as I've seen before - but it really doesn't matter in the long run - the matter IS, though, that both are using the same basic operating system - the matter of how it is tailored and packaged is of no real importance. > If that phrase means that a technically challenged individual (neophyte) can > buy or download a copy of Mandrake, install it and run it without having to > chase device drivers and perform obscure install rituals; Mandrake is that, > Red Hat isn't yet. They've just recently noticed the desktop market, haven't > they? If you mean "as easy as Windows for Joe Six-Pack" Mandrake surpassed > that level of ease at least three releases ago. Red Hat hasn't. > I have seen both distros installed by complete neophytes. I have seen the exact same trends from that point forward. For as much as you might say that RH is difficult to get drivers for, it can be countered with the same statement about Mandrake - hence, both have their idiosyncrasies - as does each and every other distro. Being part of both lists (Newbies for RH and Newbies for Mandrake) I see and each the exact same things over and over again - but in different contexts - just the name changes with the list. I can go one better with a client of mine - very very recent; the client was having more than usual troubles in setting up the MDK 9 distro - and all help, all information, all the "try this try that" didn't work at all - he could not get a working system up that was viable. After a 35 minute installation of RH 8.0, the customer was unbelievably ecstatic seeing at seeing FINALLY what the result of the installation was - a beautiful desktop, working programs, network connectivity. This can be turned around the other way switching Mandrake for RH as well - same basic circumstances - RH install failed miserably, but MDK went flawlessly. Flogging RH because you like Mandrake is really a "nether" issue - Mandrake spawned from RH - so some respect should be given - and RH has done more than any distribution for bring it not only further out to the public in a nice package, but has come up with wonderful utilities and standards (RPM) that make the Mandrake distribution so nice. RH made huge inroads into the corporate sector - and you should respect that as well - as it opens the doors for other distributions to be used likewise. > Most of us won't ever forget where Mandrake originated. I think the trick is > for Red Hat-ians (is that a word? ) to remember _why_ the branch happened. > I don't forget why the branch happend - because I have to sit in the seat of a sysadmin as well as sit in the seat of an end-user - I know - and I don't object to using Mandrake nor do I object to using RedHat. Overall, in MY personal world, Mandrake and RedHat are literally the only two distributions I shall offer my customers - but until I am shown otherwise, I WILL recommend Redhat for servers, and not Mandrake. Desktops are a completely different issue, though. For desktops, I rather to choose which one works best on that particular bit of hardware. If Mandrake flies on the machine, then no RH. If RH flies on that particular machine, then no MDK. My loyalty lies in what works for that particular situation. > I do owe everyone an apology even so. I forgot to put OT in the subject line. > I did, hence I covered yer butt! > Abject apologies and it won't happen again. > Why apologise? -- Tue Jan 21 08:20:00 EST 2003 8:20am up 4 days, 18:03, 5 users, load average: 0.17, 0.12, 0.10 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ |"| | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;"""/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' " " | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -
Re: [newbie] A review with a twist...;-)
On Monday 20 January 2003 06:27 am, Dallam Wych wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 02:35:03AM -0700, Charlie wrote:
> > I'd be interested to know if anyone else finds this guy exemplary of the
> > "typical Windows user/possible convert to the light" or if he's just a
> > dweeb.
>
> Oh the trauma of actually having to rename a file and *gasp* move
> it. Fortunately for him he tried one of the rpm based systems, I
> would love to see him have a go with lfs or debian. But, I guess
> this is what you have to expect in the days of just put a cd in and
> point and click and in 30 minutes you have a linux system *sigh*
{nasty smile, *warped humour alert*}
Do you have any idea how condescending and exclusionary you "sound" when you
say that?
Debian User: "These people that have to have a life away from their monitors
don't _deserve_ to run GNU/Linux! If they can't spend the next three years at
the command line and live in vi or emacs they aren't competent to *own* a
computer."
Charlie: "Get a freakin' LIFE! 'Debian Gurus' are generally Sado-Masochistic
anti-social self hating children {geeks ;)} that never grew up and were
probably abused children. With no sense of humour."
{\nasty smile, *warped humour alert*}
Isn't there a happy middle ground available somewhere around? Not just for
those among us with a twisted sense of humour; but also for those of us that
*don't* dream in code? Or even those that do?
Oh _yeah_! It's called Mandrake. ;)
Regards;
--
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Re: [newbie] Xine - update
El Lun 20 Ene 2003 13:47, Anne Wilson escribió: > I came to the conclusion that I had a mixed installation, 0.9.13 and > 0.9.17, so I asked for uninstallation of xine, and started installer again. > It appeared that I could only have dvd-nav with 0.9.17, so I carefully > left out all the 0.9.13 files and re-installed. I now have a dvd button. > Starting xine gives me the copyright warning, and lists the first track, > but doesn't play any further. > > I ran the command you gave, but it suggests that I still have parts of the > old version there. Perhaps that's what's causing the problem. Anyway, > here is the output (I left out the first few lines that don't help much - > they were all OK). I do hope you can advise me. You also need to uninstall libxine0-0.9.13x and install libxine1-1-0.beta2.plf then, ldconfig -v > Anne Suerte. -- Pilagá GNU/Linux Mandrake 9.0 6:05pm up 33 min, 4 users, load average: 0.21, 0.08, 0.10 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Its official.... :-(
On Monday 20 January 2003 08:09 pm, daRcmaTTeR wrote: > you know...all this discussion has got me wondering if > "we" the Linux community at large, could some how get > together and solicit the help of one or more > philanthropists (sp). I read an article in my local > paper recently that some rich guy donated $14 million to > NPR. Lord knows there are a lot of wealthy philanthropic > people out there. I wonder if anyone has contacted any > of them yet? Unfortunately I don't know anyone with a pocked that size. But here's another *optimism* : For once chauvinism might do something useful. It seems that North America and UK tend to use RedHat, South America Caldera, East Asia TurboLinux, China RedFlagLinux, India ELR (or some such), Germany S.u.s.E. etc.,etc.. But what about France and its *gloire* ? From what I hear S.u.s.E. recently signed some major contract with the German govt. - coincidence ? Is it even thinkable that the French govt. would scuttle its only linux-distro and let the Germans / Brits / Yankees / Chinese / Indians take over ? Knowing the Frenchies, I think not. Kaj Haulrich Denmark. === Powered by Linux- Mandrake 9.0 Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Source : my 100 % Microsoft-free personal computer. === Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] why china likes linux
On Monday 20 January 2003 02:56 pm, daRcmaTTeR wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Wednesday 15 Jan 2003 5:29 am, Robin Turner wrote: > > > Richard Babcock wrote: > > > > Interesting article in my local paper. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.startribune.com/stories/535/3582809.html > > > > > > Looks like we got our user base! > > > > > > Sir Robin > > > > When I was there 18 months ago it was common to see buses with linux > > slogans on the side. > > > > Anne > > as a followup to this thread this morning when I opened my email client > there was the usual message from the system with the overnight logs for > review. at the top of the list was about 75 lines revealing a brute force > attack that was launched against my server around 8:00 am Sunday morning. > apparently, from the logs they were attempting to gain access through > ipop3d by running a list of possible login usernames. they were of course > quite unsuccessful. Chinanet appears to have more then their fair share of > no-job-havin-script-kiddie-scumbags that have nothing better to do then > behave as low-brow felons. > > I just wish the Chinese ISP's would respond to the emails I've been > sending them letting them know their network is being used to attempt > illegal access of remote computer systems! you are s damn funny...I am laffing my ass off at that idea ... not even an anagram. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Xine - update
On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 04:23, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Monday 20 Jan 2003 4:47 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > OK - did some snooping around. Found > > /usr/bin/xine and > /usr/lib/xine > > Plugins are in /usr/lib/xine/plugins. > > I assume that somewhere there is a link file that I need to point at > /usr/lib/xine? And then delete the /usr/bin entries? > > Anne They should actually live in: /usr/local/lib/xine/plugins/1.0.0/post -- Tue Jan 21 07:20:00 EST 2003 7:20am up 4 days, 17:03, 5 users, load average: 0.10, 0.31, 0.21 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ |"| | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;"""/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' " " | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- ... But if we laugh with derision, we will never understand. Human intellectual capacity has not altered for thousands of years so far as we can tell. If intelligent people invested intense energy in issues that now seem foolish to us, then the failure lies in our understanding of their world, not in their distorted perceptions. Even the standard example of ancient nonsense -- the debate about angels on pinheads -- makes sense once you realize that theologians were not discussing whether five or eighteen would fit, but whether a pin could house a finite or an infinite number. -- S. J. Gould, "Wide Hats and Narrow Minds" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Financial Problems
On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Monday 20 Jan 2003 7:10 pm, daRcmaTTeR wrote: > > On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > On Monday 20 Jan 2003 6:05 pm, daRcmaTTeR wrote: > > > > The single BIGGEST problem for end user to this day remains being able > > > > to "find" the information that will get them going and *their* > > > > willingness to avail themselves of that information and learn it. > > > > > > You're right there, mate. There's huge amounts of information in the > > > docs on this computer alone, without what's available on the Internet. > > > The problem for a newbie end user is finding the wheat from the chaff > > > with regard to his particular problem at that time. It's so > > > overwhelming. > > > > > > I don't see any answer to that. It's good and right that so much should > > > be available. What's needed, I think, is some sort of searchable flag > > > that says 'this help file is suitable for beginners'. > > > > > > Anne > > > > Hi Anne, > > > > thats where these lists come in so incredibly handy. I know it was my > > salvation when I first started using Mandrake. well, actually I learned > > the true value of the mailing list/news group when I was learning with > > RedHat, but the concept is the same. I truely believe that the Mandrake > > lists are without peer when it comes to support for both the brand new > > user and the advanced alike. > > I wouldn't have survived without this list, and I push it at beginners > whenever I get the chance. > > Anne :) that makes two of us! -- daRmaTTeR Reg. Linux User #186492 "Stupidity has no moral high ground...it can't see that high!" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Xine - update
On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 04:11, Terry Sheltra wrote: > I ran that on my machine to see what would happen, and I got the following: > > [OUCH!!] no plugin directory (/usr/local/lib/xine/plugins/1.0.0) > The plugin-directory doesn't exist. xine-config claims that there > is a plugin directory at /usr/local/lib/xine/plugins/1.0.0. > However, there is no such directory. > You probably need to reinstall xine-lib. > press to continue... > > I did some snooping, and found that the RPMs installed the plugins into > /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.0.0 .. What do I need to change to get Xine to > see that my plugins are in a different place? > > Thanks! > > Terry > > Pilagá wrote: > You can add the relative path to the libs/plugins in your /etc/ld.so.conf file and run ldconfig - then try again. -- Tue Jan 21 07:15:01 EST 2003 7:15am up 4 days, 16:58, 5 users, load average: 0.07, 0.05, 0.08 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ |"| | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;"""/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' " " | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- "Have another drink, not-Corporal Nobby?" said Sergeant Colon unsteadily. "I do not mind if I do, not-Sgt Colon," said Nobby. -- The joys of working undercover (Terry Pratchett, Guards! Guards!) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Xine - update
On Monday 20 Jan 2003 8:02 pm, John Richard Smith wrote: > Anne Wilson wrote: > >On Monday 20 Jan 2003 4:47 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > >OK - did some snooping around. Found > > > >/usr/bin/xineand > >/usr/lib/xine > > > >Plugins are in /usr/lib/xine/plugins. > > > >I assume that somewhere there is a link file that I need to point at > >/usr/lib/xine? And then delete the /usr/bin entries? > > > >Anne > > Can someone tell me in terms of xine, what region number am I in when I am > in UK > 2 Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] rpmdrake issue
On Monday 20 Jan 2003 7:44 pm, Robert Wideman wrote: > # urpmi.addmedia Updates ftp://ftp.wtfo.com/pub/linux/mandrake/updates with > ../base/hdlist.cz > syntax error in config file at line 28 > unable to find hdlist file for "Updates-MDK9", medium ignored > added medium Updates SNIP Something is wrong somewhere. Your file does not even list a source called "Updates-MDK9", and is less than 28 lines long. I suggest you do urpmi.removemedia -ac to remove *all* sources and start again. just to remind you in case you missed yesterdays post. To put your CD sources in, insert CD1 in your CD drive then urpmi.addmedia --distrib removable:///mnt/cdrom That will put all 3 CDs in at once. derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Trojan alert - Australian IP (connect.com.au)
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 21:06, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Monday 20 Jan 2003 2:11 am, Trevor Rhodes wrote: > > Then how would that equate to them telling me I had a score of 0 which is > > perfect? Is my security better than perfect or they don't want my > > business. hehe > > > > Trust? Who can I trust? I'm liable to pick the wrong person. Story of my > > life. > > The only time I tried an on-line checker it kept telling me that it could see > my IP, but the address returned was my router/firewall. Nothing else was > returned, so I stopped worrying. > > Anne I get really happy (or smug) when they can only tell me my OUTSIDE IP - the one that is given by the DHCP server connected to the dialup modem...and that it can't tell me anything else (not even my browser or OS)...then you can at least sit back with some comfort... -- Tue Jan 21 06:20:00 EST 2003 6:20am up 4 days, 16:03, 6 users, load average: 0.46, 0.21, 0.20 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ |"| | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;"""/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' " " | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- Deliberation, n.: The act of examining one's bread to determine which side it is buttered on. -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] modem problems
On Monday 20 Jan 2003 7:07 pm, you wrote: > On Monday 20 January 2003 20:48, Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Monday 20 Jan 2003 6:37 pm, Gil Katz wrote: > > > Hi > > > I installed new modem > > > the problem is that when i connect to the internet 0 packets are going > > > in and out or the modem hangs up and i get error 16 (i put the max > > > timeout). now i only can connect through a network card that is > > > connected to WinXP that is connected to the internet. > > > i'm using Mandrake 9.0 > > > Gil > > > > Gil - I don't know how you're making your connection. When I had dial-up > > under 8.2 I used the desktop icon to connect. On the dialogue box that > > came up there was an option to open a log. If that's still there, try > > it, copy the output, and post it here. It might help sort out what's > > happening. > > > > Anne > > attach is the log file and screen shot of the pppd statistics > Gil Actually, I was thinking of the log information that gives out messages about dialling, waiting for connection, etc. I could be wrong, but from looking at that screenshot I would suspect that you are not getting through the authentication process with your isp. I have seen that sort of result through setting the wrong authentication process. Do you know which protocol your isp uses? If not, and if you can't get an internet connection on another computer to find out, try changing that setting and see if helps. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Image Conversion
Does anyone know of an image conversion program that will do jpeg to dxf file conversions? Rich -- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Financial Problems
On Monday 20 Jan 2003 7:10 pm, daRcmaTTeR wrote: > On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Monday 20 Jan 2003 6:05 pm, daRcmaTTeR wrote: > > > The single BIGGEST problem for end user to this day remains being able > > > to "find" the information that will get them going and *their* > > > willingness to avail themselves of that information and learn it. > > > > You're right there, mate. There's huge amounts of information in the > > docs on this computer alone, without what's available on the Internet. > > The problem for a newbie end user is finding the wheat from the chaff > > with regard to his particular problem at that time. It's so > > overwhelming. > > > > I don't see any answer to that. It's good and right that so much should > > be available. What's needed, I think, is some sort of searchable flag > > that says 'this help file is suitable for beginners'. > > > > Anne > > Hi Anne, > > thats where these lists come in so incredibly handy. I know it was my > salvation when I first started using Mandrake. well, actually I learned > the true value of the mailing list/news group when I was learning with > RedHat, but the concept is the same. I truely believe that the Mandrake > lists are without peer when it comes to support for both the brand new > user and the advanced alike. I wouldn't have survived without this list, and I push it at beginners whenever I get the chance. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Kernel compiling takes 80 minutes on P4 1.8 machine
On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 04:01, Wei Wang wrote: > Hi, > > I am not sure if this is hardware related or OS related. I have Mandrake 9.0 > on my Pentium 4 M 1.8Ghz laptop. Now the complete kernel compiling > make clean bzImage modules > > takes 80 minutes to finish. Every "gcc" stays on the screen for a second or so that >you can read almost every one of them. Is it normal? The gcc is version 3.2. > > Is there anything that I can do to speed it up? I know I could omit some modules > to speed it up but I just want to know how long the compiling takes on your machine. > > BTW, if it is hardware related, is there any software that can detect the current >running frequency of the CPU? > > > Cheers, > > We Part of the issue in the compiling of the kernel is how you chose to set the kernel up. If the setup has to recompile thousands of modules and the likes, it could take quite a bit of time - but yeah, 80 minutes does sound a bit strange... Prior to doing this, have you taken the time to try to tune or optimise your system before doing the kernel compile? Very helpful to do this... -- Tue Jan 21 07:05:00 EST 2003 7:05am up 4 days, 16:48, 5 users, load average: 0.02, 0.13, 0.14 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ |"| | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;"""/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' " " | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- The leaves were long, the grass was green, The hemlock-umbels tall and fair, And in the glade a light was seen Of stars in shadow shimmering. Tin'uviel was dancing there To music of a pipe unseen, And light of stars was in her hair, And in her raiment glimmering. There Beren came from mountains colds, And lost he wandered under leaves, And where the Elven-river rolled He walked alone and sorrowing. He peered between the hemlock-leaves And saw in wonder flowers of gold Upon her mantle and her sleeves, And her hair like shadow following. Enchantment healed his weary feet That over hills were doomed to roam; And forth he hastened, strong and fleet, And grasped at moonbeams glistening. Through woven woods in Elvenhome She lightly fled on dancing feet, And left him lonely still to roam In the silent forest listening. -- J. R. R. Tolkien Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CUPS hangs on boot
On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 03:04, Todd Slater wrote: > On 9.0, amd k6-2, Canon bubblejet connected via USB. When it boots, it > gets to where it starts CUPS and just hangs. Has anybody experienced this, > or where should I look to find out what the problem is? (This isn't for > me, and I don't have a printer, so I no nothing about troubleshooting > printers.) > > TIA, > Todd It could be that the tcp port is being either blocked or is in use - I've had that happen before...after you've successfully booted, open a terminal and do a: service cups --full-restart ...see what the errors are there (or do a tail -n50 /var/log/messages) -- Tue Jan 21 07:00:00 EST 2003 7:00am up 4 days, 16:43, 5 users, load average: 0.09, 0.20, 0.16 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ |"| | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;"""/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' " " | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- "The New York Times is read by the people who run the country. The Washington Post is read by the people who think they run the country. The National Enquirer is read by the people who think Elvis is alive and running the country ..." -- Robert J Woodhead Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie]
On Tue, 2003-01-21 at 02:36, Richard Gelling wrote: > Hi > > You might want to sign this petition at > http://www.petitiononline.com/endtcpa1/petition.html re TCPA > > Richard G. > > Registered Linux User: 256848 > Signed and forwarded. -- Tue Jan 21 07:00:00 EST 2003 7:00am up 4 days, 16:43, 5 users, load average: 0.09, 0.20, 0.16 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ |"| | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;"""/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' " " | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- "The New York Times is read by the people who run the country. The Washington Post is read by the people who think they run the country. The National Enquirer is read by the people who think Elvis is alive and running the country ..." -- Robert J Woodhead Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Xine - update
Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 20 Jan 2003 4:47 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: OK - did some snooping around. Found /usr/bin/xine and /usr/lib/xine Plugins are in /usr/lib/xine/plugins. I assume that somewhere there is a link file that I need to point at /usr/lib/xine? And then delete the /usr/bin entries? Anne Can someone tell me in terms of xine, what region number am I in when I am in UK John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Which file system?
On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Tom Brinkman wrote: > On Wednesday January 15 2003 05:59 pm, Charlie wrote: > > On January 15, 2003 03:52 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > > > On Mon, 2003-01-13 at 12:37, Adolfo Bello wrote: > > > > I have seen some posting regarding file system support on > > > > upcoming 9.1. > > > > > > > > What is the best file system for the root partition? Ext2, > > > > Ext3, ReinserFS, XFS? > > > > > > > > Adolfo > > > > > > EXT3 for the root, then you can use whatever you like after that > > > - ReiserFS is quite alright, but for large scale file systems, > > > XFS seems to be the better handler. > > > > "Keerect" except XFS isn't a usable file system for 9.1beta1. No > > XFS modules at all. I'm not certain about ReiserFS, but ext3 is > > there, however crappy it runs on my machine. That's why I was using > > XFS since 8.2 beta; it worked. > > > > It's a beta so I suppose the best method is trial and error to find > > what works adequately as I did before I settled on XFS. Besides; I > > have three (used under Mandrake) partitions that are roughly 30 GB > > each and XFS worked the smoothest for this hardware. > > > > Personally I'll be waiting for beta2. > > > > Or at least another kernel. > > > > Regards; > > I suspect XFS kernel support is iminent. I vaguely recall that > it's out for now because of a conflict with somethin else in the > current kernel, tho I can't remember what that is. > > I've used ReiserFS and tried XFS several times for quite some time > now (7.x). I've always gone back to ReiserFS, but I believe either is > the preferable file system. Civileme had the same opinion. One > caveat with either tho. It shouldn't make a differnence, but Civileme > use to always recommend that a small ext3 /boot partition be used. > Then any and all other partitions (/, /home, and so on) can be either > XFS or ReiserFS. IME, this does seem to provide the best results. > I've found ReiserFS to be faster than XFS on a desktop system. Hi Tom, I don't recall the reasoning behind that. why was it that the /boot partition should be ext3 and the rest being foratted as ReiserFS? -- daRmaTTeR Reg. Linux User #186492 "Stupidity has no moral high ground...it can't see that high!" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Kernel compiling takes 80 minutes on P4 1.8 machine
On Monday January 20 2003 11:01 am, Wei Wang wrote: > I am not sure if this is hardware related or OS related. I have > Mandrake 9.0 on my Pentium 4 M 1.8Ghz laptop. Now the complete > kernel compiling make clean bzImage modules make dep clean bzImage~ 5 mins. time make modules ~ 38 mins. make modules_install install ~ 1 min. On a 1.4 gig Athlon. But it's always 1.4 gig ... > takes 80 minutes to finish. Every "gcc" stays on the screen for a > second or so that you can read almost every one of them. Is it > normal? The gcc is version 3.2. ... your laptop (mobile cpu) isn't always 1.8 ghz. It slows down under load. A P3 would probly be faster too. So yes, it's a hardware deficiency ... get a real computer ;~> -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Trojan alert - Australian IP (connect.com.au)
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 23:50, John Rye wrote: > While on the subject of trojans etc > > Is anyone else on this list getting repeat mailings from a user who > appears to be using a node on 'cwpanama.net' ? > > This mail includes a variety of windows executables with .exe .scr and > .pif extensions all of varying size. > > A check with a demo version of the RAV virus scanner for Linux says > they're mostly Klex, Nimbda and Yaha > > I've been getting up to 8 of these a day since mid December, despite > several pleadings to the ISP to do something about it (And we all > thought Cable & Wireless had some credibility!!) > > I'm not to concerned about them as they're filtered to the bit-bucket.. > > Cheers > > John Just make sure ya don't run 'em - cuz ya wouldn't want your nice clean linux box to get infected with them thar things! (g) -- Tue Jan 21 06:50:00 EST 2003 6:50am up 4 days, 16:33, 5 users, load average: 0.20, 0.11, 0.13 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ |"| | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;"""/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' " " | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- I'm wet! I'm wild! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] why china likes linux
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Wednesday 15 Jan 2003 5:29 am, Robin Turner wrote: > > Richard Babcock wrote: > > > Interesting article in my local paper. > > > > > > > > > http://www.startribune.com/stories/535/3582809.html > > > > Looks like we got our user base! > > > > Sir Robin > > When I was there 18 months ago it was common to see buses with linux slogans > on the side. > > Anne as a followup to this thread this morning when I opened my email client there was the usual message from the system with the overnight logs for review. at the top of the list was about 75 lines revealing a brute force attack that was launched against my server around 8:00 am Sunday morning. apparently, from the logs they were attempting to gain access through ipop3d by running a list of possible login usernames. they were of course quite unsuccessful. Chinanet appears to have more then their fair share of no-job-havin-script-kiddie-scumbags that have nothing better to do then behave as low-brow felons. I just wish the Chinese ISP's would respond to the emails I've been sending them letting them know their network is being used to attempt illegal access of remote computer systems! -- daRmaTTeR Reg. Linux User #186492 "Stupidity has no moral high ground...it can't see that high!" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Problems installing on Compaq Preario
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 23:42, Spyros Spyropoulos wrote: > Hey guys, > > I am having a little problem here... > I joust bought a new Compaq Pressario 920EA notebook (Athlon XP processor, ATI >mobility Radeon gfx) but I cannot install Mandrake 9, or Mandrake 8.x > > Mandrake 7.2 installs fine, but I would rather install v.9 tnan having to download >and install all upgrades my self. > > The installation process is interrypted right when it starts, and I get an error >saying that there is a cernel panic (and some numbers I dont quite remember right >now). > > Any ideas? > If at the beginning of the installation, you choose the EXPERT installation, does the same happen? And you should be able to pass options to the kernel as well - which is something else to dig into... Here are some kernel params to try July 2000 Kernel Parameters v2.4.0 ~ The following is a consolidated list of the kernel parameters as implemented by the __setup() macro and sorted into English Dictionary order (defined as ignoring all punctuation and sorting digits before letters in a case insensitive manner), and with descriptions where known. The text in square brackets at the beginning of the description state the restrictions on the kernel for the said kernel parameter to be valid. The restrictions referred to are that the relevant option is valid if: ACPIACPI support is enabled. APICAPIC support is enabled. APM Advanced Power Management support is enabled. AX25Appropriate AX.25 support is enabled. CD Appropriate CD support is enabled. DEVFS devfs support is enabled. DRM Direct Rendering Management support is enabled. EFI EFI Partitioning (GPT) is enabled EIDEEIDE/ATAPI support is enabled. FB The frame buffer device is enabled. HW Appropriate hardware is enabled. IA-32 IA-32 aka i386 architecture is enabled. IA-64 IA-64 architecture is enabled. ISAPNP ISA PnP code is enabled. ISDNAppropriate ISDN support is enabled. JOY Appropriate joystick support is enabled. LP Printer support is enabled. LOOPLoopback device support is enabled. M68kM68k architecture is enabled. MCA MCA bus support is enabled. MDA MDA console support is enabled. MOUSE Appropriate mouse support is enabled. NET Appropriate network support is enabled. NFS Appropriate NFS support is enabled. PARIDE The ParIDE subsystem is enabled. PCI PCI bus support is enabled. PCMCIA The PCMCIA subsystem is enabled. PNP Plug & Play support is enabled. PPT Parallel port support is enabled. PS2 Appropriate PS/2 support is enabled. RAM RAM disk support is enabled. SCSIAppropriate SCSI support is enabled. SERIAL Serial support is enabled. SMP The kernel is an SMP kernel. SOUND Appropriate sound system support is enabled. V4L Video For Linux support is enabled. VGA The VGA console has been enabled. VT Virtual terminal support is enabled. XT IBM PC/XT MFM hard disk support is enabled. In addition, the following text indicates that the option: BUGS= Relates to possible processor bugs on the said processor. KNL Is a kernel start-up parameter. BOOTIs a boot loader parameter. Parameters denoted with BOOT are actually interpreted by the boot loader, and have no meaning to the kernel directly. Note that ALL kernel parameters listed below are CASE SENSITIVE, and that a trailing = on the name of any parameter states that that parameter will be entered as an environment variable, whereas its absence indicates that it will appear as a kernel argument readable via /proc/cmdline by programs running once the system is up. 53c7xx= [HW,SCSI] Amiga SCSI controllers. acpi= [HW,ACPI] Advanced Configuration and Power Interface ad1816= [HW,SOUND] ad1848= [HW,SOUND] adb_buttons=[HW,MOUSE] adlib= [HW,SOUND] advansys= [HW,SCSI] aedsp16=[HW,SOUND] aha152x=[HW,SCSI] aha1542=[HW,SCSI] aic7xxx=[HW,SCSI] AM53C974= [HW,SCSI] amijoy= [HW,JOY] Amiga joystick support apm=[APM] Advanced Power Management. applicom= [HW] arcrimi=[HW,NET] ataflop=[HW,M68k] atarimouse= [HW,MOUSE] Atari Mouse. atascsi=[HW,SCSI] Atari SCSI. awe=[HW,SOUND] aztcd= [HW,CD] Aztec CD driver. baycom_epp=
Re: [newbie] Its official.... :-(
daRcmaTTeR wrote: On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, John Richard Smith wrote: Ronald J. Hall wrote: Mandrake has filed for bankruptcy... Follow this link... :-( http://lwn.net/Articles/20061/ how much longer will newbie exist I wonder ? john good God all...they haven't gone tets up! they've merely filed chapter 11. they're going to be OK. really! We all hope so, chapter 11 is an American halfwayhouse bankruptcy term, here in uk we don't have any such situation, an entity just goes into receivership or plain liquidation, during both processes the receiver/liquidator can sell the business to any willing purchaser(s) but usually they are that far gone that it's just a case of flogging off the assets, but not always. Certainly whatever else Mandrake's situation is it IS A DESIREABLE OS someone will want to own or controll it, the fact that it is having to seek chapter 11 protection is not necessary the end by any means. I just wonder what kind of future it will be. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] rpmdrake issue
# urpmi.addmedia Updates ftp://ftp.wtfo.com/pub/linux/mandrake/updates with
../base/hdlist.cz
syntax error in config file at line 28
unable to find hdlist file for "Updates-MDK9", medium ignored
added medium Updates
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Installation CD 1
(x86) (cdrom1).cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Installation CD 2
(x86) (cdrom2).cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.International CD
(x86) (cdrom3).cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Local HD.cz]
unable to uncompress synthesis file at
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/urpm.pm line 869.
I also get the same thing with --update in there as well.
It just seems like urpmi is corrupted on my machine or something.
Here is my /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg file:
Installation\ CD\ 1\ (x86)\ (cdrom1) removable://mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS {
hdlist: hdlist.Installation CD 1 (x86) (cdrom1).cz
with_hdlist: ../base/hdlist1.cz
list: list.Installation CD 1 (x86) (cdrom1)
removable: /dev/scd0
}
Installation\ CD\ 2\ (x86)\ (cdrom2) removable://mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS2 {
hdlist: hdlist.Installation CD 2 (x86) (cdrom2).cz
with_hdlist: ../base/hdlist2.cz
list: list.Installation CD 2 (x86) (cdrom2)
removable: /dev/scd0
}
International\ CD\ (x86)\ (cdrom3) removable://mnt/cdrom/Mandrake/RPMS3 {
hdlist: hdlist.International CD (x86) (cdrom3).cz
with_hdlist: ../base/hdlist3.cz
list: list.International CD (x86) (cdrom3)
removable: /dev/scd0
}
Local-HD file://home/username/local-rpms {
hdlist: hdlist.Local HD.cz
list: list.Local HD
}
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Re: [newbie] why china likes linux
On Wed, 16 Jan 2003, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 04:13, Mark Weaver wrote: > > On Wednesday 15 January 2003 12:39 am, Stephen Kuhn scribbled nervously: > > > On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 13:09, Mark Weaver wrote: > > > > That would certainly explain all the crack attempts at my system over the > > > > last few months. Hell! I don't even bother going to the whois query > > > > servers any more I've become so familiar with the IP addy's that are > > > > showing up in my log files. I just write the owner of the netblock and > > > > tell'em to put those dogs on a shorter leash cause I don't like'em > > > > screwin around at the doors trying to find a weakness somewhere. > > > > - -- > > > > Mark > > > > > > You've actually got people trying to hack your linux box? And they're > > > from the same block/class of IP's? Where are the IP's from? Did you piss > > > someone off? > > > > not that I'm aware of. Most are scans and probes, but there have been a few > > attempts at over-running a few of the services I've got running here and > > there. thankfully, all of them unsuccessful. > > I had ONE person try to muck with my machine - and I literally opened > the door for him to do so - but he didn't get very far - after he had > got in via ftp (duh - as anonymous) I blasted him with a binary file and > his modem went "north" (or south, whatever)... > (Old BBS trick of sending command.com at their modem, basically) Wow! please elaborate. I am seriously interested in knowing the reasons behind that and why sending a file like that would be a problem to the remote modem. sounds very interesting. -- daRmaTTeR Reg. Linux User #186492 "Stupidity has no moral high ground...it can't see that high!" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] A review with a twist...;-)
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 20:48, Michael Biddulph wrote: > Sounds like a typical Windows, probable Mac convert to me. > I found it amusing too, definately the wrong coloured hat for the desktop. > > > - -- > Michael Biddulph > Brisbane, Australia Not being defensive here, but why cut down RedHat? That's like a child putting down their parents. Remember from whence Mandrake came, and remember from whence came the RPM... -- Tue Jan 21 06:20:00 EST 2003 6:20am up 4 days, 16:03, 6 users, load average: 0.46, 0.21, 0.20 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ |"| | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;"""/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' " " | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- Deliberation, n.: The act of examining one's bread to determine which side it is buttered on. -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Wine and Steel Panthers
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 19:12, Vahur Lokk wrote: > OK, for the first time I have found a good use for wine. Being a military > strategies fan I installed Steel Panthers World at War and succeeded running > it with wine (from Mandrake 9.0 CDs). Which makes me really happy. > > I still have few problems. > 1) SPWAW is supposed to run fullscreen. And so it starts. But touching right > or lower edge of the screen with mouse will move the game "window" and my > desktop (with abnormally low res) appears below that. Going to left or upper > edge moves the game window back. Its quite annoying as the same mouse > movement is used to view different parts of the battlefield. > So how to make the game window really fullscreen or at least standing on one > place. Wine runs with 800x600 res, my desktop is a lot better but I can't > remember exact figures. Changing wine.conf did not do the trick. > > 2) There is no sound. This is much less of a problem but still - should wine > know about my soundcard and be able to make use of it? > > Wahur > Have you dug into your WINE documentation for the sound configurations? I had to muck around with the /etc/wine.reg, /etc/wine.systemreg and /etc/wine.userreg aside from numerous other little bits and bobs before being able to play HL fullscreen - AND getting sound (I mistakenly set the audio device to /dev/audio when it's actually /dev/dsp) -- Tue Jan 21 06:10:01 EST 2003 6:10am up 4 days, 15:53, 6 users, load average: 0.08, 0.20, 0.24 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ |"| | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;"""/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' " " | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- Earth is a beta site. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Evolution default browser
On Mon, 2003-01-20 at 16:50, Brandon Vanderberg wrote: > K, this has to be the most asked (and answered) question about > Evolution. > > I click on a link in an email and it opens Mozilla. I'd rather it open a > new tab in Galeon. > I've read about 312 messages I found in Google and have gone in to Gnome > Control Center to change my preferred applications to galeon, galeon %s, > and a few other browsers just to test. In each case I closed the control > center and restarted Evo, just in case. No success with any of these > settings. Any ideas? > > I'm using: > Evo 1.0.8 > Gnome Control Center 2.0.1.1 In the GNOMECC, you can set the default browser/URL handler...I also prefer using Galeon - because it's not bloated and slow...but that's where ya change it mate... -- Mon Jan 20 18:20:00 EST 2003 6:20pm up 4 days, 4:03, 6 users, load average: 0.02, 0.07, 0.08 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ |"| | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;"""/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' " " | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * RH 8.0 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting -- beta test, v: To voluntarily entrust one's data, one's livelihood and one's sanity to hardware or software intended to destroy all three. In earlier days, virgins were often selected to beta test volcanos. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Kernel compiling takes 80 minutes on P4 1.8 machine
OUCH, how the hell??? My computers and times that i have used for linux: -Compaq 7180 (p100) and it takes 1.5 hours to compile a complete kernel. -Clone all SCSI p3-450 and it takes 30 mins to compile a complete kernel. -Dell Optiplex GX1 P3-450 and it takes 35 mins to compile a complete kernel. You guys might want to rethink your timing. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chuck Burns Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 11:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Kernel compiling takes 80 minutes on P4 1.8 machine On Mon, January 20 2003 11:01 am, Wei Wang wrote: *snip* > I am not sure if this is hardware related or OS related. I have Mandrake > 9.0 on my Pentium 4 M 1.8Ghz laptop. Now the complete kernel compiling make > clean bzImage modules *snip > takes 80 minutes to finish. Every "gcc" stays on the screen for a second or *snip* I have a P4 1.6 desktop, and it takes me about 45 minutes to compile everything, all modules and everything. My P3-500 desktop takes almost 2 hours, however, my P3-500 laptop takes over 3 hours. In case you didn't know, ALL x86 laptop cpu's are NOT the same cpu as the desktops, which makes them just a little better than half the speed of their respective desktop counterparts. While they both run at the same speed, the pipelining, power control, etc etc is much different. Data bus width also comes into play. AFAIK the only computers that use the exact same processors for both desktops and laptops are Apples. So, in answer to your question, no, there's probably nothing wrong with your hardware other than the fact it's a Mobility CPU, hooked to the cheapest components the maker of that laptop could find. -- Chuck Burns, Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED] ---==--- "You are old, Father William," the young man said, "All your papers these days look the same; Those William's would be better unread -- Do these facts never fill you with shame?" "In my youth," Father William replied to his son, "I wrote wonderful papers galore; But the great reputation I found that I'd won, Made it pointless to think any more." Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Its official.... :-(
On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, John Richard Smith wrote: > Ronald J. Hall wrote: > > >Mandrake has filed for bankruptcy... > > > >Follow this link... :-( > > > >http://lwn.net/Articles/20061/ > > > > > > > how much longer will newbie exist I wonder ? > > john good God all...they haven't gone tets up! they've merely filed chapter 11. they're going to be OK. really! -- daRmaTTeR Reg. Linux User #186492 "Stupidity has no moral high ground...it can't see that high!" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Financial Problems
On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Monday 20 Jan 2003 6:05 pm, daRcmaTTeR wrote: > > > The single BIGGEST problem for end user to this day remains being able to > > "find" the information that will get them going and *their* willingness to > > avail themselves of that information and learn it. > > You're right there, mate. There's huge amounts of information in the docs on > this computer alone, without what's available on the Internet. The problem > for a newbie end user is finding the wheat from the chaff with regard to his > particular problem at that time. It's so overwhelming. > > I don't see any answer to that. It's good and right that so much should be > available. What's needed, I think, is some sort of searchable flag that says > 'this help file is suitable for beginners'. > > Anne Hi Anne, thats where these lists come in so incredibly handy. I know it was my salvation when I first started using Mandrake. well, actually I learned the true value of the mailing list/news group when I was learning with RedHat, but the concept is the same. I truely believe that the Mandrake lists are without peer when it comes to support for both the brand new user and the advanced alike. -- daRmaTTeR Reg. Linux User #186492 "Stupidity has no moral high ground...it can't see that high!" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] modem problems
On Monday 20 Jan 2003 6:37 pm, Gil Katz wrote: > Hi > I installed new modem > the problem is that when i connect to the internet 0 packets are going in > and out or the modem hangs up and i get error 16 (i put the max timeout). > now i only can connect through a network card that is connected to WinXP > that is connected to the internet. > i'm using Mandrake 9.0 > Gil Gil - I don't know how you're making your connection. When I had dial-up under 8.2 I used the desktop icon to connect. On the dialogue box that came up there was an option to open a log. If that's still there, try it, copy the output, and post it here. It might help sort out what's happening. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Financial Problems
On Monday 20 Jan 2003 6:05 pm, daRcmaTTeR wrote: > The single BIGGEST problem for end user to this day remains being able to > "find" the information that will get them going and *their* willingness to > avail themselves of that information and learn it. You're right there, mate. There's huge amounts of information in the docs on this computer alone, without what's available on the Internet. The problem for a newbie end user is finding the wheat from the chaff with regard to his particular problem at that time. It's so overwhelming. I don't see any answer to that. It's good and right that so much should be available. What's needed, I think, is some sort of searchable flag that says 'this help file is suitable for beginners'. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] modem problems
Hi I installed new modem the problem is that when i connect to the internet 0 packets are going in and out or the modem hangs up and i get error 16 (i put the max timeout). now i only can connect through a network card that is connected to WinXP that is connected to the internet. i'm using Mandrake 9.0 Gil Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Kmail weird After KDE update
On Monday 20 January 2003 09:47 am, Derek Jennings wrote: > On Monday 20 Jan 2003 3:32 pm, Dennis Myers wrote: > > After doing the updates on the Mandrake security site for KDE my kmail is > > acting weird. When I click on some messages they suddenly say "no > > subject" and I can't read them. Also some messages don't change color > > after being read. Anyone else seen this problem. I like KDE so maybe it's > > time to just uninstall it and go back to the original 9.0 install of KDE. > > Anyone else seen this behaviour? > > It just means there is a mismatch in the contents of your mail folder and > the index to the folder ~/Mail/inbox.index The index is saying these > messages are in the folder, but they are not present. > I think if you delete the index a new one will be created when you next > start Kmail. (might be wise to make a backup just in case :) > > derek Nope, didn't help. Half the time Kmail crashes with a segfault after I try to delete a list of highlighted mail. Says the one about the app tried to save or something. Anyway, I didn't have this problem before the update so it must be because of the update. Ha, logical fallacy potential there. Any other help is appreciated. I am holding off reinstall of the 9.0 KDE for now. -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Unsubbing
On Monday 20 January 2003 11:35 am, Steve Mendizabal wrote: > Can someone please point the way to unsub from this list? Go here and see unsubscribing. http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/flists.php3 -- Dennis M. linux user # 180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
