Re: [newbie] Rpmdrake in 9.1 needs to be stomped and burned
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 22:32, you wrote: > (An example of a neglected new feature is the Samba setup wizard - To set > up a basic Samba server, all you have to do is press the Samba wizard > button in Mandrake Control Centre. Aaarrg Guess what I spent all day just yesterday?! OK, at least I learned something Wahur Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Strange problem with my 8.2-box
On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 07:50:38 +0100 "Anders Lind" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > what happens if you ctrl+alt+f3? can you login there? > > I have not tried that, but I will when I get to work as it is my box at work Now I have tried, I can login, but I do not get the commandline, I am thinking about reinstalling but I am not really in a mood to do it, I can get into Xfce without a problem so I can work with those programs. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Strange problem with my 8.2-box
what happens if you ctrl+alt+f3? can you login there? I have not tried that, but I will when I get to work as it is my box at work /Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Enabling DMA on CD-Writer
On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 23:15, Tom Brinkman wrote: > On Wednesday February 12 2003 10:15 pm, RYan Moe wrote: > > Hi, I'm using 9.0, my drive is a Creative Labs 12/10/32 on > > /dev/hdc.I've turned DMA on for this drive by using hdparm and > > creating a harddiskhdc file. However anytime the drive is accessed > > my CPU usage shoots up to around 75% (normally I can't hardly get > > it past 10%) which shouldn't happen if its using DMA. I know for a > > fact the drive supports DMA as I've had it about 2 years. There > > isn't a problem with the drive either as I booted into windows and > > burned a CD with the CPU usage never going above 2%. I don't > > recall having this problem when I had 8.2 installed. I've also used > > this drive w/ Debian and it worked fine in there. > > > > Thanks, > > Ryan > > Creative doesn't say much about who makes it. They re-badge > various sources. Windoze is not a recommendation for hardware to work > on better OS's. 'Works great with Windoze' is most often a derogatory > statement about hardware. MOF, that's one explaination I can think of > at the moment. Windoze kernels are a joke, Deb's are usually old > fashioned yesterday's stuff. Probly older than the kernel you had > with 8.2. Could be your hardware is fallin behind current Linux > kernels? > >OTOH, that only somewhat fits your slow tranfer rates tho. The > motherboard might. Who makes it, and what chipset? Also mention if > it's in a ready made (ie, OEM only), because then it and often it's > chipsets are made to that vendors specs or Dell's. What drives are > hd[abd] ? might help too. Another possibility is spindle wobble > causing eratic signals over IDE. That could account for both slow > transfer rates and high cpu usage. At two years old and unknown > sources, that becomes a realistic explaination, specially if the > transport mechanism was actually made by Ricoh. Have you tried > burnin at low speeds (4x) ? > > Post the output from 'hdparm -v -i /dev/hdc' and maybe > somebody'll see somethin I'm runnin out of ideas. > -- > Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas > > > I have an Asus A7V133c m/b w/ an Athlon T-bird 1.3. It's not an OEM board. The other drives I have are /dev/hda some old shitty cd-rom, /dev/hdg a maxtor 30 gig running at ATA-100, /dev/hde a quantam 30 gig ATA-100. You think being less than 2 years old kernel support would have gone beyond my 12X drive? I've gotten some pretty old, crappy hardware working w/ new kernels (IDE controller cards and whatnot). I wasn't using windows as a "hey it works in here why not linux", just that if it was something physically wrong (i.e. not a driver/config problem) it should show up every time I use the drive regardless of OS. here is the output of the hdparm command. /dev/hdc: HDIO_GET_MULTCOUNT failed: Input/output error IO_support = 1 (32-bit) unmaskirq= 1 (on) using_dma= 1 (on) keepsettings = 0 (off) readonly = 0 (off) BLKRAGET failed: Input/output error HDIO_GETGEO failed: Invalid argument Model=CREATIVE CD-RW RW1210E, FwRev=LCS6, SerialNo= Config={ Fixed Removeable DTR<=5Mbs DTR>10Mbs nonMagnetic } RawCHS=0/0/0, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=0 BuffType=unknown, BuffSize=1024kB, MaxMultSect=0 (maybe): CurCHS=0/0/0, CurSects=0, LBA=yes, LBAsects=0 IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:120,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120} PIO modes: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4 DMA modes: sdma0 sdma1 sdma2 mdma0 mdma1 *mdma2 AdvancedPM=no Thanks, Ryan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Rpmdrake in 9.1 needs to be stomped and burned
>> On Wednesday February 12 2003 08:21 pm, Robert Wideman wrote: >> > This info is VERY useful for prep work on PLF DL's. You dont know >> > how many libraries are illegal in the US (DMCA laws) and can not be >> > DL through GURPMI for progs on PLF. pbone.net is great for this >> > since it gets around it. Rob >> >> US DMCA, and Europe and other parts of the world have their own >> similar laws and legal pitfalls, and it's never that cut an dried, >> black and white. Most OSS providers can't sholder the burden, even >> the slightest hint of exposure to legality questions over included >> software in their disros. Legal or not, right or wrong. The reality >> is even if they're in the right from the start, and eventually >> prevail, the legal costs of any challenge would bury them forever. >> >>Now what has this to do with lookin inside rpms? ..or rpmdrake? >> or with PLF or pbone.net ? Get around what? If you re-read my info it states that due to legal issues you can not DL/install certain libaries, that are needed by some programs, via GURPMI. Pbone.net is great for this...they allow US to DL DMCA-illegal libraries. Rob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Enabling DMA on CD-Writer
On Wednesday February 12 2003 10:15 pm, RYan Moe wrote: > Hi, I'm using 9.0, my drive is a Creative Labs 12/10/32 on > /dev/hdc.I've turned DMA on for this drive by using hdparm and > creating a harddiskhdc file. However anytime the drive is accessed > my CPU usage shoots up to around 75% (normally I can't hardly get > it past 10%) which shouldn't happen if its using DMA. I know for a > fact the drive supports DMA as I've had it about 2 years. There > isn't a problem with the drive either as I booted into windows and > burned a CD with the CPU usage never going above 2%. I don't > recall having this problem when I had 8.2 installed. I've also used > this drive w/ Debian and it worked fine in there. > > Thanks, > Ryan Creative doesn't say much about who makes it. They re-badge various sources. Windoze is not a recommendation for hardware to work on better OS's. 'Works great with Windoze' is most often a derogatory statement about hardware. MOF, that's one explaination I can think of at the moment. Windoze kernels are a joke, Deb's are usually old fashioned yesterday's stuff. Probly older than the kernel you had with 8.2. Could be your hardware is fallin behind current Linux kernels? OTOH, that only somewhat fits your slow tranfer rates tho. The motherboard might. Who makes it, and what chipset? Also mention if it's in a ready made (ie, OEM only), because then it and often it's chipsets are made to that vendors specs or Dell's. What drives are hd[abd] ? might help too. Another possibility is spindle wobble causing eratic signals over IDE. That could account for both slow transfer rates and high cpu usage. At two years old and unknown sources, that becomes a realistic explaination, specially if the transport mechanism was actually made by Ricoh. Have you tried burnin at low speeds (4x) ? Post the output from 'hdparm -v -i /dev/hdc' and maybe somebody'll see somethin I'm runnin out of ideas. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Enabling DMA on CD-Writer
> Post the output from > > hdparm /dev/hdc > > Are you sure your burner is /dev/hdc? > - -- > Greg Yes, I'm positive it's /dev/hdc. Here is the output from hdparm. /dev/hdc: HDIO_GET_MULTCOUNT failed: Input/output error IO_support = 1 (32-bit) unmaskirq= 1 (on) using_dma= 1 (on) keepsettings = 0 (off) readonly = 0 (off) BLKRAGET failed: Input/output error HDIO_GETGEO failed: Invalid argument Thanks, Ryan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 & PNY GeForce4 MX 440-SE
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 05:38 am, John S. Chalice wrote: > Hey there.. > > I just upgraded my video card to a new PNY PCI GeForce4 MX 440-SE, > from my previous of a Radeon 7000. Unfortunately, I am still > having a problem getting XWindows to work for Mandrake 9.0. I > tried installing the I32 nVidia driver rpm binaries (both the GLX > and the kernel) for Mandrake from nVidia's site.. I also tried > making the drivers from the .tar.gz source files as well, *and* I > tried playing with some of the options in the XF86Config-4 file.. > but I still couldn't get the GUI to show up. It doesn't lock up > the keyboard, but I can't see anything but a black screen. Does > anybody have any suggestions? Thanks for your time. Humm, my Chaintech G4 MX 440 was detected automagically and has run flawlessly, Rob -- Rob Blomquist Kirkland, WA On the side of the software box, in the 'System Requirements' section, it said 'Requires Windows 95 or better'. So I installed Linux and lived happily ever after. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] gxset and DPMS
Everytime I boot/reboot my machine, I use gxset to change DPMS's suspend and off values to zero, otherwise my monitor goes haywire after going into standby. How do I make these changes permanent? Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] From DHCP to static and back
My default setup is to get TCP/IP settings from a DHCP server. Quite often I have to change this setting to static when moving to another network. What I am now doing is releasing DHCP settings with "dhcpcd -k". When I want to go back to the DHCP setting I enter "dhcpcd -n" and everything works fine. However (why always a however?), I have noticed that, according to "ps -ax", instead of one dhcpcd process I have two processes in memory: the original one and the one with the command line "dhcpcd -n". Is this normal? Or is there something I am doing wrong or missing? TIA -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / <_/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Enabling DMA on CD-Writer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 12 February 2003 11:15 pm, RYan Moe wrote: > > Hi, I'm using 9.0, my drive is a Creative Labs 12/10/32 on /dev/hdc.I've > turned DMA on for this drive by using hdparm and creating a harddiskhdc > file. However anytime the drive is accessed my CPU usage shoots up to > around 75% (normally I can't hardly get it past 10%) which shouldn't > happen if its using DMA. I know for a fact the drive supports DMA as > I've had it about 2 years. There isn't a problem with the drive either > as I booted into windows and burned a CD with the CPU usage never going > above 2%. I don't recall having this problem when I had 8.2 installed. > I've also used this drive w/ Debian and it worked fine in there. > > Thanks, > Ryan Post the output from hdparm /dev/hdc Are you sure your burner is /dev/hdc? - -- Greg -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Sx4VwDpHP6GALAARArf8AJ0YyXFq3v8WvW9EaogJhMGppReGNACcDH9k LRkzyJiQw43hO8CQG0bDuus= =xT2Y -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rpmdrake in 9.1 needs to be stomped and burned
On Wednesday February 12 2003 08:21 pm, Robert Wideman wrote: > This info is VERY useful for prep work on PLF DL's. You dont know > how many libraries are illegal in the US (DMCA laws) and can not be > DL through GURPMI for progs on PLF. pbone.net is great for this > since it gets around it. Rob US DMCA, and Europe and other parts of the world have their own similar laws and legal pitfalls, and it's never that cut an dried, black and white. Most OSS providers can't sholder the burden, even the slightest hint of exposure to legality questions over included software in their disros. Legal or not, right or wrong. The reality is even if they're in the right from the start, and eventually prevail, the legal costs of any challenge would bury them forever. Now what has this to do with lookin inside rpms? ..or rpmdrake? or with PLF or pbone.net ? Get around what? > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom > >> Brinkman Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 7:54 PM > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Subject: Re: [newbie] Rpmdrake in 9.1 needs to be stomped and > >> burned > >> > >> On Wednesday February 12 2003 03:30 pm, Jerry Barton wrote: > >> > so, since rpmdrake's become enigmatic, anyone know what > >> > command used to query a package BEFORE istallation to list > >> > every file it's going to install (and where) so i could, for > >> > example, out the output to a text file and read it first? > >> > > >> > (ie command [option] [pakcage] > files.txt) > >> > > >> > ?? > >> > > >> > Jerry. > >> > >>rpm -qpil /path/to/filename.rpm > /path/to/files.txt -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Enabling DMA on CD-Writer
On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 21:30, Tom Brinkman wrote: > On Wednesday February 12 2003 08:16 pm, ryan wrote: > > Hi, for the life of me I can't figure out how to enable DMA on my > > CD burner. Burning a CD brings my system to a halt and it takes > > around 10 minutes to copy data from CD to hd. Any help would be > > greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > Ryan > >What Mandrake version?, do you have 'hdparm' installed? What > hardware? Is your cdrw /dev/hdc? I'll be usin that as an example. > > If it's not, install hdparm, then type (as root) 'hdparm -v /dev/hdc' > in a terminal and you should see somethin like this > > tom# hdparm -v /dev/hdc > /dev/hdc: > HDIO_GET_MULTCOUNT failed: Invalid argument > IO_support = 1 (32-bit) > unmaskirq= 1 (on) > using_dma= 1 (on) > keepsettings = 0 (off) > readonly = 0 (off) > readahead= 8 (on) > HDIO_GETGEO failed: Invalid argument > >Don't worry about "failed: Invalid argument", cd drives don't > support these parameters. What you're concerned about is > 'using_dma=1 (on)'If it's '=0' , then read on, if it's =1, dma is > already enabled and you've got some other problem. > >If it's Mandrake 9.0 or later (I don't remember for 8.x), as root > in a terminal, > > cd /etc/sysconfig/ > >then use an editor to uncomment this line in the 'harddisks' file >USE_DMA=1 (IOW's remove the # in front of that line and save the >edited file). Then, > > cp harddisks harddiskhdc > >If you also have a cdrom on /hdd > > cp harddisks harddiskhdd > >You can reboot but you don't need to. You can start dma on your > cdrw for this uptime, by (as root) runnin 'hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc' > (and the same for /hdd if you have one) > Future boots will have dma enabled by the harddisk* files. > > Now for the disclaimer: Some cdroms don't suport dma, or don't do > it very well at all. If this is the situation the problem can go all > the way back to the motherboard and/or power supply being the > culprit(s). Afterall, the warning is right there in the harddisks > file > > # Set this to 1 to enable DMA. This might cause some > # data corruption on certain chipset / hard drive > # combinations. This is used with the "-d" option > USE_DMA=1 > >But you'll probly be OK ;) > -- > Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Hi, I'm using 9.0, my drive is a Creative Labs 12/10/32 on /dev/hdc.I've turned DMA on for this drive by using hdparm and creating a harddiskhdc file. However anytime the drive is accessed my CPU usage shoots up to around 75% (normally I can't hardly get it past 10%) which shouldn't happen if its using DMA. I know for a fact the drive supports DMA as I've had it about 2 years. There isn't a problem with the drive either as I booted into windows and burned a CD with the CPU usage never going above 2%. I don't recall having this problem when I had 8.2 installed. I've also used this drive w/ Debian and it worked fine in there. Thanks, Ryan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HP Computers
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 9:46 pm, Tom Brinkman wrote: *snip* >What you touched on is really a bios deficiency in many ready made > computers. The larger problem is making any changes to ready mades. > The computer left the factory with the bare minimums to support the > original hardware configuration, design, and OS. > >Adding in hardware later probly won't go over to well, and changing > the OS from Windoze often doesn't either. > > Are you sure there's not a bios option, somethin like "memory hole > at 16mb", and that it's not enabled? It's not just the ready-made one's with this problem. I've found that MANY all-in-one's either don't have the option to disable the onboard video, or if even if they have the option, it doesnt work. I have a ASUS sp97v board with a dead onboard vga and a PCI vga card I disabled the onboard card using a jumper on the motherboard to do so, and yet X still detects the card and attempts to use it, however the memory is freed and everything works if I tell X to not use that card. He should look on the board, near the onboard VGA connector, to see if there is a jumper to disable the onboard stuff.. It will allow the board to give up it's shared vga memory, and might even actually disable the onboard video like it's supposed to. -- Chuck Burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] loadmodule command
On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 06:12:04 +0800 "Franki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi guys > > I am trying to seup unrealircd on my mandrake9.0 box.. > > It all configures correctly, then I configured it and thats good it.. > > > when I try to start it, it tells me I havn't loaded any modules.. > > According to the docs, I am supposed to do the following: > >loadmodule "src/modules/commands.so"; >loadmodule "src/modules/scan.so"; >loadmodule "src/modules/scan_socks.so"; > > I have no loadmodule command so I can't get past this error... > > > Anyone know where I get that from?? locate loadmodule gets me nothing... > > > tips?? > > > rgds > > franki > > that's an internal IRC oper command i believe. Once you've defined yourself as oper (in the O-line) and connected you should be able to (in the status screen of your irc client). Been a looonggg time since I was on an O-line but if my memory serves me well it was an internal command. Jerry -- -- Registered Linux user # 300600 Registered Linux machine # 185855 at http://counter.li.org (¬_ //\ V_/_ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] HP Computers
On Wednesday February 12 2003 08:33 pm, John S. Chalice wrote: > Hey there.. > > It looks like I found my problem that I've been having for awhile. > This may be what is stumping many of you users of HP computers who > decided you wanted linux, and a better video card. > > Since my computer (HP Pavilion 7935) came with onboard video.. and > not its own card, when I tried configuring my computer for linux, I > ended up selecting 'configure both heads independently'.. referring > to (Head 1): My onboard display adapter.. and (Head 2): my other > video card. When I did this, my computer was complaining (though I > only found this out after logging the startx output messages) > because when you put in a new video card, the onboard video > disables itself entirely, and yet linux was trying to use the > onboard video. This also leaves me with 16MB of set-apart RAM I > can't get my hands on, but.. that's not too big of a deal. > > Anyway.. I just thought this might help some people who don't know > why their HP computer doesn't like linux. :) > > I have put in a GeForce4 MX 440-SE (PCI) and it seems to be working > fine now. > > Hope this helps some of you :) What you touched on is really a bios deficiency in many ready made computers. The larger problem is making any changes to ready mades. The computer left the factory with the bare minimums to support the original hardware configuration, design, and OS. Adding in hardware later probly won't go over to well, and changing the OS from Windoze often doesn't either. Are you sure there's not a bios option, somethin like "memory hole at 16mb", and that it's not enabled? -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Enabling DMA on CD-Writer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 12 February 2003 09:51 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: > On Wednesday 12 February 2003 09:16 pm, ryan wrote: > > Hi, for the life of me I can't figure out how to enable DMA on my CD > > burner. Burning a CD brings my system to a halt and it takes around 10 > > minutes to copy data from CD to hd. Any help would be greatly > > appreciated. > > Hi Ryan, it is really easy. For some reason, the 9.0 startup scripts turn > dma off for optical drives. For this instruction, I will assume your For edification, read the file /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit - -- Greg -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+SxK0wDpHP6GALAARAtU1AKCO5DkPY+zGV8gjzYA6jPShccI+2gCgkJ5x IpVXmbz587F0DW8I+jLeyEI= =hi7W -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Enabling DMA on CD-Writer
On Wednesday February 12 2003 08:16 pm, ryan wrote: > Hi, for the life of me I can't figure out how to enable DMA on my > CD burner. Burning a CD brings my system to a halt and it takes > around 10 minutes to copy data from CD to hd. Any help would be > greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > Ryan What Mandrake version?, do you have 'hdparm' installed? What hardware? Is your cdrw /dev/hdc? I'll be usin that as an example. If it's not, install hdparm, then type (as root) 'hdparm -v /dev/hdc' in a terminal and you should see somethin like this tom# hdparm -v /dev/hdc /dev/hdc: HDIO_GET_MULTCOUNT failed: Invalid argument IO_support = 1 (32-bit) unmaskirq= 1 (on) using_dma= 1 (on) keepsettings = 0 (off) readonly = 0 (off) readahead= 8 (on) HDIO_GETGEO failed: Invalid argument Don't worry about "failed: Invalid argument", cd drives don't support these parameters. What you're concerned about is 'using_dma=1 (on)'If it's '=0' , then read on, if it's =1, dma is already enabled and you've got some other problem. If it's Mandrake 9.0 or later (I don't remember for 8.x), as root in a terminal, cd /etc/sysconfig/ then use an editor to uncomment this line in the 'harddisks' file USE_DMA=1 (IOW's remove the # in front of that line and save the edited file). Then, cp harddisks harddiskhdc If you also have a cdrom on /hdd cp harddisks harddiskhdd You can reboot but you don't need to. You can start dma on your cdrw for this uptime, by (as root) runnin 'hdparm -d1 /dev/hdc' (and the same for /hdd if you have one) Future boots will have dma enabled by the harddisk* files. Now for the disclaimer: Some cdroms don't suport dma, or don't do it very well at all. If this is the situation the problem can go all the way back to the motherboard and/or power supply being the culprit(s). Afterall, the warning is right there in the harddisks file # Set this to 1 to enable DMA. This might cause some # data corruption on certain chipset / hard drive # combinations. This is used with the "-d" option USE_DMA=1 But you'll probly be OK ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] connection sharing using static ip
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 7:31 pm, Adolfo Bello wrote: >*snip* > Without having a default gateway a host can only contact other host in > its own subnet. > > So leaving the W2K system without default gateway, W2K will be jailed to > the subnet it belongs to. > This is the same suggestion I was about to make.Use DHCP to assign the machines an IP address, but force the win2k bootup to be a manually set IP, something like 192.168.1.254 with the default gateway left blank Then, as Adolfo states, the win2k machine won't know how to get outside it's current subnet, and since the other machines will be assigned IPs AND default gateways via the router (read: box with 2 nics or real router) they WILL be able to get out of the subnet and onto the internet. -- Chuck Burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rpmdrake in 9.1 needs to be stomped and burned
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 12 February 2003 08:16 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: > On Wednesday 12 February 2003 05:54 pm, Robert Wideman wrote: > > >> No matter how many people vote to put nVidia > > >> drivers in the > > >> distro, they won't go in. > > > > This is b/c of the nVidia license, not the voting of users. Correct? > > > > Rob > > Mandrake could create an iso distribution, like lycoris, Red Hat and > others, that prevent redistribution because of the inclusion of these > drivers. By policy they will not include something that prevents the > redistribution under the GPL no matter how many people vote for it. Clarification: I included RedHat because of their inclusion of copyrighted graphics and logos that they use to prevent redistribution of their distro. You will notice that places liek CheapBytes no longer sell RedHat but a distro called Pink Tie, which is RedHat with the offending material removed. - -- Greg -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+SwjawDpHP6GALAARAharAJ9M/9xXnfz0GeD6ZVhES2iFr5vKGQCgkFzZ MdOs+6kUWSly7yeDMAt0N3w= =Nu0R -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Enabling DMA on CD-Writer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 12 February 2003 09:16 pm, ryan wrote: > Hi, for the life of me I can't figure out how to enable DMA on my CD > burner. Burning a CD brings my system to a halt and it takes around 10 > minutes to copy data from CD to hd. Any help would be greatly > appreciated. Hi Ryan, it is really easy. For some reason, the 9.0 startup scripts turn dma off for optical drives. For this instruction, I will assume your cd-burner is /dev/hdc scsi emulated as /dev/scd0. For your machine, replce the hdc with whatever ata channel your burner is on. Go into the directory /etc/sysconfig and you will see a file called harddisks. Copy this file as root to a file called harddiskhdc. cp harddisks harddiskhdc Edit the new file with your favorit text editor (mines nano) and uncomment the line that says '# USE_DMA=1' so it looks like this USE_DMA=1 and save the file. Since dma is off, it is very likely that hdparm is already installed on your system, but to doublecheck, type rpm -qa | grep -i hdparm if you get no output, you need to install hdparm, so type urpmi hdparm, and follow the instructions. Now when yopu boot up, DMA will be turned back on. Another method would be to remove hdparm completely, which will prevent it from being turned off to begin with. The problem with this approach is that you won't be able to use hdparm to tune your hard drives. urpme hdparm to learn more about hdparm, type man hdparm. - -- Greg -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+SwhDwDpHP6GALAARAk++AJwO5VVbl/vpUItJyCsVsts9c29NuwCghN0+ //X97CjRQAFrIG3Y8Q+ETsk= =BznK -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT Nigerian spam scam
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 12:15 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Wednesday 12 Feb 2003 3:58 pm, magnet wrote: > > On Wednesday 12 Feb 2003 12:21 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > On Wednesday 12 Feb 2003 11:40 am, Poogle wrote: > > > > IIRC someone on this list collected these scams, I've got a new > > > > variant which is allegedly from Angola if you want it for your > > > > collection please e mail me off-list > > > > > > I wonder why there's a new upsurge of these? I had two in one day at > > > the weekend - different versions. > > > > > > Anne > > > > Personally I think Anne is an avid collector of these but she just won't > > admit that to us ;-)) > > OOooo - you found me out! > > Anne Anne: You reckon that they'll become collectibles that will eventually be sold on e-bay? -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] HP Computers
Hey there.. It looks like I found my problem that I've been having for awhile. This may be what is stumping many of you users of HP computers who decided you wanted linux, and a better video card. Since my computer (HP Pavilion 7935) came with onboard video.. and not its own card, when I tried configuring my computer for linux, I ended up selecting 'configure both heads independently'.. referring to (Head 1): My onboard display adapter.. and (Head 2): my other video card. When I did this, my computer was complaining (though I only found this out after logging the startx output messages) because when you put in a new video card, the onboard video disables itself entirely, and yet linux was trying to use the onboard video. This also leaves me with 16MB of set-apart RAM I can't get my hands on, but.. that's not too big of a deal. Anyway.. I just thought this might help some people who don't know why their HP computer doesn't like linux. :) I have put in a GeForce4 MX 440-SE (PCI) and it seems to be working fine now. Hope this helps some of you :) Sincerely, John S. Chalice a.k.a. crysaliq -- http://crysaliq.home.attbi.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Rpmdrake in 9.1 needs to be stomped and burned
This info is VERY useful for prep work on PLF DL's. You dont know how many libraries are illegal in the US (DMCA laws) and can not be DL through GURPMI for progs on PLF. pbone.net is great for this since it gets around it. Rob >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Brinkman >> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 7:54 PM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re: [newbie] Rpmdrake in 9.1 needs to be stomped and burned >> >> >> On Wednesday February 12 2003 03:30 pm, Jerry Barton wrote: >> > so, since rpmdrake's become enigmatic, anyone know what command >> > used to query a package BEFORE istallation to list every file it's >> > going to install (and where) so i could, for example, out the >> > output to a text file and read it first? >> > >> > (ie command [option] [pakcage] > files.txt) >> > >> > ?? >> > >> > Jerry. >> >>rpm -qpil /path/to/filename.rpm > /path/to/files.txt >> >> But you don't need to type in the whole filename of the rpm. Just >> the first 3 or 4 letters and then hit to auto complete it. Same >> for path, just type the first few letters of the directories, and use >> to complete, on the way to its location. Quick, easy, no >> typo's ;) And you don't need to pipe it to a text file, you can read >> the whole rpm description and where the files will be placed in the >> terminal. >> >>rpm -Uvh --test filename.rpm will tell you if you're gonna need >> some dependencies, without installing the rpm. >> >> urpmi filename.mdk.rpmand you don't need to fret with any of >>^^^ >> the above ;)still works tho ;) >> -- >> Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas >> >> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Enabling DMA on CD-Writer
Hi, for the life of me I can't figure out how to enable DMA on my CD burner. Burning a CD brings my system to a halt and it takes around 10 minutes to copy data from CD to hd. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ryan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Module question?
At 11:46 AM 2/12/2003 -0700, you wrote: On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:13:53 -0500 "Ronald J. Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 12 February 2003 04:12 am, Jerry Barton wrote: > > > Just wondering... for my own future reference (i might need to do this one > > day lol)... did it work? > > > > Jerry. > > Hi Jerry - sorry I didn't report the results back - I should have. > > Yes, it did work - doing all the js tests now show my USB joystick working, > and its showing up in most of the games log files. Not all is peaches 'n > creme though - in many cases, you still have to go into each games configs > (.ini's usually) and add/modify things. Still - I'm much further along than I > was 2 weeks ago. :-) > > Thanks for all your help! > > -- > > /\ > Dark< >Lord > \/ > > > Cool at least i'll have an idea with the modules. I have a Saitek joystick which is totally useless now (no linux module) so i've been doing any games using the kb (and been getting quite good at it too ROFL) but I plan on eventually getting a new js/gamepad. I think the only thing about M$ I miss is Tomb Raider 3... I never quite got it finished before I got so fed up with Winblows that I formatted my HD's lol. well ok i miss yahoo! voice chat too... but can live without that hahaha. Jerry. Hey DL... I have a USB How-to article I got & scanned some time back... maybe it would help you? Its from 2001 so lots has changed but the info in it probably would still be of use to you. Mail me off list if you like if you want it. - FemmeFatale Good Decisions You boss Made: "We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts." - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rpmdrake in 9.1 needs to be stomped and burned
On Wednesday February 12 2003 03:30 pm, Jerry Barton wrote: > so, since rpmdrake's become enigmatic, anyone know what command > used to query a package BEFORE istallation to list every file it's > going to install (and where) so i could, for example, out the > output to a text file and read it first? > > (ie command [option] [pakcage] > files.txt) > > ?? > > Jerry. rpm -qpil /path/to/filename.rpm > /path/to/files.txt But you don't need to type in the whole filename of the rpm. Just the first 3 or 4 letters and then hit to auto complete it. Same for path, just type the first few letters of the directories, and use to complete, on the way to its location. Quick, easy, no typo's ;) And you don't need to pipe it to a text file, you can read the whole rpm description and where the files will be placed in the terminal. rpm -Uvh --test filename.rpm will tell you if you're gonna need some dependencies, without installing the rpm. urpmi filename.mdk.rpmand you don't need to fret with any of ^^^ the above ;)still works tho ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] connection sharing using static ip
On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 21:31, Adolfo Bello wrote: > On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 04:15, fifner the dragon wrote: > > You understood perfectly. > > > > I do not want to use DHCP to connect my LAN to the server. > > > > Thanks, > > Fifner > > Just let undefined the gateway in the W2K TCP/IP setup. > > (And set a policy so just the Administrator can change the TCP/IP > settings). Sorry, I forgot about the Win98 setup. Why don't you leave Win98 to get its settings using DHCP? Do you have any reason to force this to have a predefined IP? I would take note of settings given by DHCP and set something alike using a static setup. Good luck. -- __ / \\ @ __ __@ Adolfo Bello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> / // // /\ / \\ // \ // Bello Ingenieria S.A, ICQ: 65910258 / \\ // / \\ / // // / //cel: +58 416 609-6213 /___// // / <_/ \__\\ //__/ // fax: +58 212 952-6797 www.bisapi.com //pager: www.tun-tun.com (# 609-6213) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [Newbie] Windowmaker is borked on 9.0????
At 09:08 PM 2/11/2003 -0500, you wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 11 February 2003 07:51 pm, FemmeFatale wrote: > That will do. Thx Damian. Not that I'll remember the command cause I > don't understand grep yet... :) > So I'll just save your mail as a txt file. Hey FF, try this. Add the following line to your ~/.bashrc file - -- Greg Wow... awesome Greg! Thx a bunch :) - FemmeFatale Good Decisions You boss Made: "We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts." - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Closing Terms while in Xwindow
At 01:55 AM 2/12/2003 -0700, you wrote: On 10 Feb 2003 20:25:23 -0700 FemmeFatale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Subject says it all. In 8.0-8.2, I just had to hit "Close session" or > "Quit" on the file menu and the terms vanished. > Um ideas? I ran out of em days ago. > > Femme Is this problem with Konsole? I played around a bit in one, opening multiple sessions in it and did a couple of things like opening mc in one session, opening vi in another, etc i went to session/quit and a pop up informed me i still had multiple sessions open ... am i sure i want to quit? i selected yes and the whole thing closed. Or is it a different terminal you're using? (Close Session only closed one tab at a time btw but even when i was down to the first tab it still closed) jerry Well AFAIK, its Konsole. Its the term that sits by the big K in KDE on the panel bar (Far left). Most of the terms I've tried *admittedly I have only tried 2 or 3* work the way they are supposed to. Konsole OTOH won't let me close the term in any way except by typing "exit" at the CLI. Its very weird. I've never had this type of behaviour happen before either. Now if it were just my comp that did this, I'd just think its a me being a ditz who's quite stoned on Demorol (Or Dumberol as my b/f is fond of pointing out...). However so far it seems to affect his install too. Again both of our Linuces are stock installations (Mine has a few updates on it for various programs but that shouldn't make any difference...?). Its more annoying than anything. - FemmeFatale Good Decisions You boss Made: "We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that character from Peanuts." - Source: Dilbert Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing Java...
Tom Brinkman wrote: On Monday February 10 2003 09:33 am, Mark wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 10 Feb 2003, Tom Brinkman wrote: Or simply 'rpm -Uvh j2re-1.4.1_01-5mdk.i586.rpm' does it all. ^^^ HI Tom, that method has never worked for me. I don't think that package likes me much. which is why I just started unpacking the contents into /usr/java, and then making symlinks from /usr/java/bin to /usr/bin. - -- Mark Yes, I believe Anne and a few others had the same comments. I dunno why, it's Sun's java packaged by Mandrake to put all the files in the right places for any Mandrake system to find and use them. I can only conjecture that some of y'all have mucked around in your systems and they are no longer Mandrake compliant. Tom! I'm shocked! Me? muck around in my system? why I'd never think of doing such a thing. ;) -- Mark --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 & 9.0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Rpmdrake in 9.1 needs to be stomped and burned
>> the most important feature of 8.2's rpmdrake was that you could >> see... right there in front of you... what files it would put >> where if you installed it. with rpmdrake in 9.0 it's not there. >> I can't figure out HOW on EARTH to tell WHAT FILES a package >> installs so some rpms get installed and i end up NEVER USING >> them because I have no idea what it names the executable or >> where it puts it. perhaps there's a CL command to do this but >> manpages make my brain numb and i give up because it's like >> someone's speaking martian at me. >> so, since rpmdrake's become enigmatic, anyone know what command >> used to query a package BEFORE istallation to list every file >> it's going to install (and where) so i could, for example, out >> the output to a text file and read it first? If i am going to install something i open the GUI, if the requirements arent met i use CLI rpm to check..."rpm -qa|grep package-name". If its not there and the GUI doesnt have access to getting the rpm then i DL it from http://rpm.pbone.net/ or http://rpmfind.net and then install the rpm via CLI rpm. Its a hassle. Oh well... Rob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Rpmdrake in 9.1 needs to be stomped and burned
>> I am somewhat new to the cooker list, and I just migrated to 9.1 beta. >> The difference is that now I've actually made the transition from >> "theory" to "practice" in my involvement with rpmdrake 2.x, and it isn't >> positive. I just don't believe the 4-way interface is as good as >> rpmdrake 1.4. Behind the scenes the "engine(s)" may be new and >> improved, but the interface just isn't getting it. I don't understand >> *why* it was changed, and I have not talked to anybody that does. It >> seems to me that this should have been a discussion/vote within >> Mandrakeclub prior to the time that the change was made. I assumed that >> that was one of the reasons that Mandrakeclub existed. There is a voting option to put all 4 modules into 9.1 but i dont know whats going to happen with it. >> I use rpm to install downloaded individual rpm's and rpmdrake to install >> from CD and update the OS from the net. This is what i do myself. >> I *could* start using the CLI for this stuff, I've just been occupied >> with too many *other* things in the CLI to pay attention. I don't spend >> all day playing with rpmdrake. But when I do use it, I like for there >> to be a decent UI sitting there waiting. With the advent of rpmdrake >> 2.1 it is now probably time to get a handle on the CLI procedures for >> urpmi, at least in the interim period that it takes for rpmdrake 1.4 to >> be voted back in. Since 9.0 i think we all need to learn CLI urpmi for installing rpms Rob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Rpmdrake in 9.1 needs to be stomped and burned
>> No matter how many people vote to put nVidia >> drivers in the >> distro, they won't go in. This is b/c of the nVidia license, not the voting of users. Correct? Rob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Rpmdrake in 9.1 needs to be stomped and burned
>>Tho many were vocal (as you are) about the changes, the logic and >> reasons for it as given by the Mdk. developers were compelling if not >> convincing, and much progress has been made with the new versions >> since. I have not seen one posting to Newbie OR Expert stating they like the separate programs for RPM installation. Its a hassle switching between the different progs. >>But what do I know, it's much easier and quicker to manage packages >> on the CL anyhow ;~ppp MMM, i have tried to install/update packages (not that much) via CLI and it never worked. Then again i might be doing something wrong. >>BTW, in the recent discussions of updating 9.1b3 from mirrors, I >> failed to mention there's a new tool 'urpmi.setup' available. A >> little GUI tool for the CL challenged to use urpmi. 'Course I haven't >> used it ;)urpmi.setup-0.4.2-1mdk MMM, will have to check it out. Need to find the src.rpm so i can test it on 9.0 since i am not using the betas. Also, is there a page/site that states what features have been added/updated/upgraded from 9.0 to the 9.1 betas ?? This documentation would be nice. Rob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rpmdrake in 9.1 needs to be stomped and burned
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 12:09 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > Now try running the "new and improved" rpmdrake from an Eterm. It puts > you into "software packages installation" mode. Can you affect what > mode you want it to go into? Not according to rpmdrake --help. There > is not a method listed to do so. Translation: "Mandrake Update" mode: > unavailable. "Remove software" mode: unavailable. "Software Sources > Manager" mode: unavailable. Previously all these functions were easily > accessible from within the LM8X rpmdrake UI. NOW you have to activate a > seperate icon for each one. El dumb-o. If you want to open the software removal persona from a term Lyvim just type: rpmdrake-remove in the term and it'll open for you. Regards; -- Charlie Edmonton,AB,Canada Registered user 244963 http://counter.li.org Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. War is peace. -- George Orwell Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rpmdrake in 9.1 needs to be stomped and burned
On Wed 2003-02-12 at 14:30:04 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] > the most important feature of 8.2's rpmdrake was that you could > see... right there in front of you... what files it would put where > if you installed it. with rpmdrake in 9.0 it's not there. Choose "maximum information". If it is not there as button (I think that is only there in Cooker), use the context menu (press right mouse button while in the right side of the window. [...] > so, since rpmdrake's become enigmatic, anyone know > what command used to query a package BEFORE istallation to list > every file it's going to install (and where) so i could, for > example, out the output to a text file and read it first? > > (ie command [option] [pakcage] > files.txt) Aside from the example above, you can use rpm for that, presumed you know a server holding the file, e.g. rpm -qlp http://mandrake.secsup.org/Mandrake/9.0/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/Apache-ASP-2.37-3mdk.noarch.rpm Learned that myself only this week. :-) HTH, Benjamin. msg119281/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Rpmdrake in 9.1 needs to be stomped and burned
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 12 February 2003 04:54 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > > Well, I've done searches within the newbie and expert lists for > "rpmdrake" and I see almost no vocality on a positive note for rpmdrake > 2.1. This isn't from memory, this is from a hard search for "rpmdrake" > thru all emails I have. My lists here date back to 1999. I saw no > naysayers convinced in the discussions on the expert list, may they come > here on this thread and correct me if I am wrong. And if they still > don't like rpmdrake 2.1, I'd appreciate hearing about that as well. > Well, these two lists are not the only place that this distro is discussed. There are reviews all over the net, and the old MandrakeUser.org, the new mandrakeusers.org, pclinuxonline, a.o.l.m, etc. And I am also referring to discussions I have had privately with people. If you limit your review to these two ML's, you don't get the whole picture. In fact, several others have already posted in this thread about their satisfaction with the program in question. So you cannot say there is no support for it either. > > The people that don't like a change are always the most vocal about why > > they don't like something, which is why when you go back and look, the > > evidence will always point to the dissenters outweighing the people that > > like it. > > Perhaps or perhaps not; I think it varies with the situation. Be that > as it may, the point was "favorable reaction", and not " the statistical > weight of dissenters". On the point in question I maintain that there > are historically almost no peeps pushing rpmdrake 2.1 according to the > list mail. Except maybe the developers. > And they made their case well and many of the dissenter's stood down because of it. You're not acknowledging that many of the original dissenter's came on board. > > I don't think a development decision made by the company that pays for > > the development a tyrannical one, and this was definitely not arbitrary. > > 1) The customers pay the company that pays for the development. > Only if they like what they are getting, except of course for Microsoft customers :-) > > No matter how many people vote to put nVidia drivers in the > > distro, they won't go in. > > That debate concerns licensing issues and has nothing to do with > rpmdrake, which btw is a Mandrakesoft creation and is already included > in the distro, where the Nvidia drivers are *not*. > Yes, it is an exclusion by policy, and the codebase for the old rpmdrake violated current development policies for the distro. I can only suggest to you that if you feel that strongly about the ui of rpmdrake, get in touch with the rpmdrake team and help create a better ui. I don't think any bitching or discussion, especially on this list, is going to get it back, and I am simply being practical about it - -- Greg -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Ssi2wDpHP6GALAARAhvqAJ9veCM/vkhc67a257yTBOvUZN+TJgCgs63X 2cVBWyRHZQI3V3Nrv4nadBQ= =YFbD -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] loadmodule command
Hi guys I am trying to seup unrealircd on my mandrake9.0 box.. It all configures correctly, then I configured it and thats good it.. when I try to start it, it tells me I havn't loaded any modules.. According to the docs, I am supposed to do the following: loadmodule "src/modules/commands.so"; loadmodule "src/modules/scan.so"; loadmodule "src/modules/scan_socks.so"; I have no loadmodule command so I can't get past this error... Anyone know where I get that from?? locate loadmodule gets me nothing... tips?? rgds franki Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] unkillable process?
Thanks for some further explanation :) at least i can now understand what's going on anyway :) Jerry. On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 23:03:34 +0100 Benjamin Pflugmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed 2003-02-12 at 14:22:41 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > [...] > > what i'm doing: > > ps ax | grep > > su > > (passwd) > > kill -s > > > > using all kinds of signals starting with sigterm, sigkill, > > Those two is all you need. "kill -s TERM" will ask the process to > terminate (the process may refuse), "kill -s KILL" forcefully tries to > kill the process (. > > If it doesn't terminate after a KILL signal, there is no way to do > it. Usually it means that your kernel got a hickup which shouldn't > normally happen. There are cases where the kernel cannot remove a > process due to its internal state[1], but I only encountered these with > either broken kernels (i.e. an update fixed it) or with broken > hardware. > > > signals like sigrtmin+2 even were [and man kill does not say]) > > man 7 signal > > (that's mentioned in "man kill") > > > not wanting to get mucking around too much with something i didn't > > fully understand i didn't use them ALL but it seems like sigkill > > should kill just about anything :-/ > > Correct. If it does not, there is nothing a mere user (or admin) can > do about it. > > HTH, > > Benjamin. > > > [1] AFAIK, a killed process which currently happens to be somewhere in > the "kernel space", will not terminate until it jumped back to > user space. So one explanation for such an unkillable process is > that it got stuck in the kernel space somehow. > -- -- Registered Linux user # 300600 Registered Linux machine # 185855 at http://counter.li.org (¬_ //\ V_/_ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] unkillable process?
On Wed 2003-02-12 at 14:22:41 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] > what i'm doing: > ps ax | grep > su > (passwd) > kill -s > > using all kinds of signals starting with sigterm, sigkill, Those two is all you need. "kill -s TERM" will ask the process to terminate (the process may refuse), "kill -s KILL" forcefully tries to kill the process (. If it doesn't terminate after a KILL signal, there is no way to do it. Usually it means that your kernel got a hickup which shouldn't normally happen. There are cases where the kernel cannot remove a process due to its internal state[1], but I only encountered these with either broken kernels (i.e. an update fixed it) or with broken hardware. > signals like sigrtmin+2 even were [and man kill does not say]) man 7 signal (that's mentioned in "man kill") > not wanting to get mucking around too much with something i didn't > fully understand i didn't use them ALL but it seems like sigkill > should kill just about anything :-/ Correct. If it does not, there is nothing a mere user (or admin) can do about it. HTH, Benjamin. [1] AFAIK, a killed process which currently happens to be somewhere in the "kernel space", will not terminate until it jumped back to user space. So one explanation for such an unkillable process is that it got stuck in the kernel space somehow. msg119277/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] unkillable process?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 12 February 2003 04:22 pm, Jerry Barton wrote: > On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 14:33:07 -0500 > > Greg Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > -- > > > > How are you killing the process? > > Greg, > thx for the reply :) > > what i'm doing: > ps ax | grep > su > (passwd) > kill -s > > using all kinds of signals starting with sigterm, sigkill, sigquit, > sigabrt... working my way through the signals until i finally just gave up > and rebooted (not knowing what some of the odd signals like sigrtmin+2 even > were [and man kill does not say]) not wanting to get mucking around too > much with something i didn't fully understand i didn't use them ALL but it > seems like sigkill should kill just about anything :-/ > Strange, as I've never had signal 9 (sigkill) not work for me. Although I always kill my pid's from within top. - -- Greg -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+SsSTwDpHP6GALAARAjPrAJ9YPCwtrZ9EjovrjnfzlhUvc+8jMgCeO9oL g546PbxamAV4CPmAI4UaIpU= =+BNR -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rpmdrake in 9.1 needs to be stomped and burned
On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 16:15, Greg Meyer wrote: > I just recall many discussions on a.o.l.m back during beta testing of 9.0 > discussing this very thing, with some people liking it and some people hating > it. I also recall the Cooker discussion during the development process that > spelled out quite clearly why this was a positive change. A lot of naysayers > were convinced during that discussion, which is why it changed. Well, I've done searches within the newbie and expert lists for "rpmdrake" and I see almost no vocality on a positive note for rpmdrake 2.1. This isn't from memory, this is from a hard search for "rpmdrake" thru all emails I have. My lists here date back to 1999. I saw no naysayers convinced in the discussions on the expert list, may they come here on this thread and correct me if I am wrong. And if they still don't like rpmdrake 2.1, I'd appreciate hearing about that as well. > > > "Re: [expert] rpmdrake 9.0, a step backwards :(". This thread contains > > the major commentary on this subject that I've been able to find. In > > addition to that there is also no support for your "favorable reaction" > > theory when you look at the votes on the RPM Voting pages for > > rpmdrake-1.4-18mdk. It's gone all the way to page 2 out of 10 and as of > > right now is up to 47 votes. After today it will be 49 cause I will be > > casting my two cents in the wishing well. > > > > Among the dissenters on the thread above in the Expert list were Dale > > Huckeby, Toshiro, David Guntner, Franki and Piero Piutti. James > > Sparenburg made the following excellent point: > > > > "Ok now the discussion has gone on to the point of creating two equally > > problomatic camps. My question is there a middle gournd. Can the UI of > > old be merged with the codebase of new. The answer is yes." > > > > Of the ones that were *for* the new rpmdrake, there was Todd Lyons > > alone; and I was unable to discern anybody else in the thread that made > > it clear that they were liking rpmdrake 2.1. Bottom line is that I find > > no basis in reality for your statement concerning a "favorable > > reaction." > > The people that don't like a change are always the most vocal about why they > don't like something, which is why when you go back and look, the evidence > will always point to the dissenters outweighing the people that like it. Perhaps or perhaps not; I think it varies with the situation. Be that as it may, the point was "favorable reaction", and not " the statistical weight of dissenters". On the point in question I maintain that there are historically almost no peeps pushing rpmdrake 2.1 according to the list mail. Except maybe the developers. > > Take the recent discussion about the new mdkkdm as a case in point. I > personally hate it and think it should go away yesterday. You, however, may > like it and think it is the best change Mandrake ever made. I happen to agree with you here. I also think that this UI should have been put to a vote before it was changed; it would have saved much debate and the end product would have been better. > > > > > I think it is here to stay. > > > > And I think it depends on the votes. And it should. THAT should be the > > determining factor, and not some arbitrary tyrannical decision handed > > down from an ivory tower. > > > > I don't think a development decision made by the company that pays for the > development a tyrannical one, and this was definitely not arbitrary. 1) The customers pay the company that pays for the development. 2) Wether the decision was arbitrary or not depends largely on the average joe's leverage in the decision, which I maintain was not alot. > I also > think Club voting was put into place in order to determine if fluxbox or > blackbox goes on cd1 or 2, not determine the development direction of the > Mandrake Tools. What it was put in place for originally has absolutely no relation to what it has evolved to and is being used for now. Be that as it may, basically you are saying that the Mandrake users should not determine the direction of the Mandrake tools UI. > No matter how many people vote to put nVidia drivers in the > distro, they won't go in. That debate concerns licensing issues and has nothing to do with rpmdrake, which btw is a Mandrakesoft creation and is already included in the distro, where the Nvidia drivers are *not*. LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.21pre4-1mdk Mandrake Cooker 9.1 Enlightenment 0.16.5-12mdkEvolution 1.2.1-1mdk Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Fwd: Re: [newbie] SAMBA help?
Yes... I get the following error: unable to inspect list file for "update_source", medium ingored unalbe to take medium "Updates for Mandrake Linux 9.0 (ftp1u)" into account... Basically, the same error I have been seeing. Yes, I am looged in as root. Any thoughts? PM On Wednesday 12 February 2003 12:05 pm, you wrote: > On Wednesday 12 February 2003 12:10 pm, Patrick Miller wrote: > > > http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php > > did you try the one this one creates? and remove all the others? -- "I'd rather be upside down in my kayak than right side up at my desk" - bumper sticker, 72 Volvo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rpmdrake in 9.1 needs to be stomped and burned
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 12 February 2003 04:45 pm, Jerry Barton wrote: > OH! Greg you're a godsend! > (what an odd way to do it... i never would have thought to do that... why > isn't there a big huge sign saying "right click the right pane and choose > maximum information to see files list!!!" on the titlebar? ROFL) > I tried to deadpan the response because you were so upset over something that was so simple. Seriously though, the major flaw to me of the new rpmdrake is documentation, or a lack thereof. Little things like that anoy users, when there is no good reason they have to. > ok that was my major gripe with rpmdrake. the only other think i don't > like is that it's not all accessable from one window, tabbed, but that's > minor to me. > I get around the lack of common ui by accessing it from the MCC, which gets around having to type in the root password everytime I want to switch from install to remove. - -- Greg -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+SsKzwDpHP6GALAARAgNuAJ9gRFrTZVO+AIOyqtBn09q81z+rhwCeIZ0y cRjtZfUppGfxorgjzjVctiY= =Ai6z -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rpmdrake in 9.1 needs to be stomped and burned
On Wednesday 12 Feb 2003 9:45 pm, Jerry Barton wrote: > On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 16:36:14 -0500 > > Greg Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Wednesday 12 February 2003 04:30 pm, Jerry Barton wrote: > > > this was changed in 9.0 and I was quite disappointed it with it too, > > > ttytt. the most important feature of 8.2's rpmdrake was that you could > > > see... right there in front of you... what files it would put where if > > > you installed it. with rpmdrake in 9.0 it's not there. I can't figure > > > out HOW on EARTH to tell WHAT FILES a package installs so some rpms get > > > installed and i end up NEVER USING them because I have no idea what it > > > names the executable or where it puts it. > > > > Right click the right pane and choose maximum information > > - -- > > OH! Greg you're a godsend! > (what an odd way to do it... i never would have thought to do that... why > isn't there a big huge sign saying "right click the right pane and choose > maximum information to see files list!!!" on the titlebar? ROFL) > In 9.1 there is ;) Well actually it is a radio button/ derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rpmdrake in 9.1 needs to be stomped and burned
Aside from Tom's insighful comments[1], to set some facts straight... On Wednesday February 12 2003 01:09 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: [...] > thing. In LM91 beta 3, to duplicate the functionality of one LM82 > Rpmdrake UI instance, you must activate all four icon instances of > rpmdrake listed in MCC. Then you end up with four seperate > windows, each one of which looks identical to the other one except > for the title bars. It's absurd. For me, it's absurd to keep all four open. I keep my box up-to-date all the time and only need one (install). And from time to time, but far less often, I also need to start uninstall. I wonder how often you change your sources, if you need to keep it open... The only time I find the new scheme lacking is when I try to find out about the state of a package without knowing it's name (I try searching and cannot be sure whether I mistyped the name of it is not in the installed list). > Now try running the "new and improved" rpmdrake from an Eterm. > It puts you into "software packages installation" mode. Can you > affect what mode you want it to go into? Not according to > rpmdrake --help. There is not a method listed to do so. That's because they are four different programs. You don't expect to find "rmdir" when you type "mkdir --help" do you? > Translation: "Mandrake Update" mode: unavailable. MandrakeUpdate > "Remove software" mode: unavailable. rpmdrake-remove > "Software Sources Manager" mode: unavailable. edit-urpm-sources.pl > Previously all these functions were easily accessible from within > the LM8X rpmdrake UI. What's wrong with using the GUI (mcc) to start a GUI-program? Or really using the CLI, if you start doing so (using urpmi instead of rpmdrake)? > NOW you have to activate a seperate icon for each one. El dumb-o. > > The positive side to all this is that in the Mandrakeclub RPM > voting page, you can let it be known if you do not like LM9X > Rpmdrake by casting your vote for Ctardif's entry, listed as > "rpmdrake 1.4 (9.1/i586)". This would bring back the old rpmdrake. I doubt that. There are technical reasons why it cannot be brought back with reasonable effort. Read the cooker list archives for why. Regards, Benjamin. [1] You are on the cooker list since at least October... Even if you had no opportunity to read the discussion about rpmdrake, you should know where to look for it by now. msg119271/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Rpmdrake in 9.1 needs to be stomped and burned
On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 16:36:14 -0500 Greg Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wednesday 12 February 2003 04:30 pm, Jerry Barton wrote: > > this was changed in 9.0 and I was quite disappointed it with it too, ttytt. > > the most important feature of 8.2's rpmdrake was that you could see... > > right there in front of you... what files it would put where if you > > installed it. with rpmdrake in 9.0 it's not there. I can't figure out HOW > > on EARTH to tell WHAT FILES a package installs so some rpms get installed > > and i end up NEVER USING them because I have no idea what it names the > > executable or where it puts it. > > Right click the right pane and choose maximum information > - -- OH! Greg you're a godsend! (what an odd way to do it... i never would have thought to do that... why isn't there a big huge sign saying "right click the right pane and choose maximum information to see files list!!!" on the titlebar? ROFL) ok that was my major gripe with rpmdrake. the only other think i don't like is that it's not all accessable from one window, tabbed, but that's minor to me. Thanx! Jerry (getting happy again) -- -- Registered Linux user # 300600 Registered Linux machine # 185855 at http://counter.li.org (¬_ //\ V_/_ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rpmdrake in 9.1 needs to be stomped and burned
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 12 February 2003 04:30 pm, Jerry Barton wrote: > this was changed in 9.0 and I was quite disappointed it with it too, ttytt. > the most important feature of 8.2's rpmdrake was that you could see... > right there in front of you... what files it would put where if you > installed it. with rpmdrake in 9.0 it's not there. I can't figure out HOW > on EARTH to tell WHAT FILES a package installs so some rpms get installed > and i end up NEVER USING them because I have no idea what it names the > executable or where it puts it. Right click the right pane and choose maximum information - -- Greg -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Sr5OwDpHP6GALAARAntJAJ0QjMB3kbWsSjKnofUStwx6M6daXwCeP5c/ QDREUAYFaqQbCy97j27N3hA= =XCOu -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rpmdrake in 9.1 needs to be stomped and burned
On 12 Feb 2003 14:09:03 -0500 Lyvim Xaphir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rpmdrake in LM82 was very eloquent and I got addicted to it in record > time; all functions right there at your fingertips, including > update/install/removal/source configuration. I got used to using it > almost on a daily basis. Contrast this with 9.1, where you have > rpmdrake butchered into four seperate chunks, each one of which does not > allow access to any of the other pieces. To get things done you have to > go back to one of the other icons, which brings up a seperate > incarnation of rpmdrake doing the separate thing. In LM91 beta 3, to > duplicate the functionality of one LM82 Rpmdrake UI instance, you must > activate all four icon instances of rpmdrake listed in MCC. Then you > end up with four seperate windows, each one of which looks identical to > the other one except for the title bars. It's absurd. this was changed in 9.0 and I was quite disappointed it with it too, ttytt. the most important feature of 8.2's rpmdrake was that you could see... right there in front of you... what files it would put where if you installed it. with rpmdrake in 9.0 it's not there. I can't figure out HOW on EARTH to tell WHAT FILES a package installs so some rpms get installed and i end up NEVER USING them because I have no idea what it names the executable or where it puts it. perhaps there's a CL command to do this but manpages make my brain numb and i give up because it's like someone's speaking martian at me. so, since rpmdrake's become enigmatic, anyone know what command used to query a package BEFORE istallation to list every file it's going to install (and where) so i could, for example, out the output to a text file and read it first? (ie command [option] [pakcage] > files.txt) ?? Jerry. -- -- Registered Linux user # 300600 Registered Linux machine # 185855 at http://counter.li.org (¬_ //\ V_/_ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rpmdrake in 9.1 needs to be stomped and burned
On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 14:51, Tom Brinkman wrote: >Now Lyvim, I believe you read the cooker list and should know this > was all hammered out, fuss'd about, reasons given, and concessions > made months ago on the cooker list. If I'm terribly wrong, then > search the cooker archives back in Oct., Nov., Dec > >Tho many were vocal (as you are) about the changes, the logic and > reasons for it as given by the Mdk. developers were compelling if not > convincing, and much progress has been made with the new versions > since. I am somewhat new to the cooker list, and I just migrated to 9.1 beta. The difference is that now I've actually made the transition from "theory" to "practice" in my involvement with rpmdrake 2.x, and it isn't positive. I just don't believe the 4-way interface is as good as rpmdrake 1.4. Behind the scenes the "engine(s)" may be new and improved, but the interface just isn't getting it. I don't understand *why* it was changed, and I have not talked to anybody that does. It seems to me that this should have been a discussion/vote within Mandrakeclub prior to the time that the change was made. I assumed that that was one of the reasons that Mandrakeclub existed. >But what do I know, it's much easier and quicker to manage packages > on the CL anyhow ;~ppp I use rpm to install downloaded individual rpm's and rpmdrake to install from CD and update the OS from the net. Usually I get the latter two items done pretty easily from the rpmdrake 1.4 UI. But since I've been using LM91 Beta 3, I've developed a strong aversion to using rpmdrake. I used to could start rpmdrake 1.4 from an Eterm and then as I conducted actions in the UI, it would report back to Eterm exactly what it was doing, connecting to, unpacking, installing, etc, et al, ad infinitim. Very handy; very good UI experience; a good teamwork job between the CLI and the UI. Now with 9.1 all that is history. >BTW, in the recent discussions of updating 9.1b3 from mirrors, I > failed to mention there's a new tool 'urpmi.setup' available. A > little GUI tool for the CL challenged to use urpmi. 'Course I haven't > used it ;)urpmi.setup-0.4.2-1mdk I *could* start using the CLI for this stuff, I've just been occupied with too many *other* things in the CLI to pay attention. I don't spend all day playing with rpmdrake. But when I do use it, I like for there to be a decent UI sitting there waiting. With the advent of rpmdrake 2.1 it is now probably time to get a handle on the CLI procedures for urpmi, at least in the interim period that it takes for rpmdrake 1.4 to be voted back in. LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.21pre4-1mdk Mandrake Cooker 9.1 Enlightenment 0.16.5-12mdkEvolution 1.2.1-1mdk Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rpmdrake in 9.1 needs to be stomped and burned
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 12 February 2003 03:51 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > I hate to argue with you Lyvim, but I found th 8.2 version a tad confusing. > Sure it was all there, but somehow I was never sure that I was seeing > what I wanted to find. Perhaps it was because I was so new, but then a > good many users are. IMO, the bottom line is that despite the fact that it was all in one place, the ui was a terrible design, performance sucked and the application code was bloated. One can get around the common place to load everything by accessing the four different modules throught he MCC. - -- Greg -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+SroOwDpHP6GALAARAtOBAJ9YUVA0vqyauhQpXVQV1I6im7Z87ACdFCOK rYqeY2PhvK4LUVMmqGiMxuo= =VkT2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rpmdrake in 9.1 needs to be stomped and burned
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 12 February 2003 03:17 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > > > > If you are still on 8.2, you must have missed the fact that the new > > rpmdrake was introduced in 9.0 to quite favorable reaction. > > Favorable reaction where, exactly? I haven't seen any and I've scanned > all three lists. There's one thread on Expert regarding this titled I just recall many discussions on a.o.l.m back during beta testing of 9.0 discussing this very thing, with some people liking it and some people hating it. I also recall the Cooker discussion during the development process that spelled out quite clearly why this was a positive change. A lot of naysayers were convinced during that discussion, which is why it changed. > "Re: [expert] rpmdrake 9.0, a step backwards :(". This thread contains > the major commentary on this subject that I've been able to find. In > addition to that there is also no support for your "favorable reaction" > theory when you look at the votes on the RPM Voting pages for > rpmdrake-1.4-18mdk. It's gone all the way to page 2 out of 10 and as of > right now is up to 47 votes. After today it will be 49 cause I will be > casting my two cents in the wishing well. > > Among the dissenters on the thread above in the Expert list were Dale > Huckeby, Toshiro, David Guntner, Franki and Piero Piutti. James > Sparenburg made the following excellent point: > > "Ok now the discussion has gone on to the point of creating two equally > problomatic camps. My question is there a middle gournd. Can the UI of > old be merged with the codebase of new. The answer is yes." > > Of the ones that were *for* the new rpmdrake, there was Todd Lyons > alone; and I was unable to discern anybody else in the thread that made > it clear that they were liking rpmdrake 2.1. Bottom line is that I find > no basis in reality for your statement concerning a "favorable > reaction." The people that don't like a change are always the most vocal about why they don't like something, which is why when you go back and look, the evidence will always point to the dissenters outweighing the people that like it. Take the recent discussion about the new mdkkdm as a case in point. I personally hate it and think it should go away yesterday. You, however, may like it and think it is the best change Mandrake ever made. The Internet is full of posts from me making a case for why it should be gone, but because you may like it, you didn't say anything. > > > I think it is here to stay. > > And I think it depends on the votes. And it should. THAT should be the > determining factor, and not some arbitrary tyrannical decision handed > down from an ivory tower. > I don't think a development decision made by the company that pays for the development a tyrannical one, and this was definitely not arbitrary. I also think Club voting was put into place in order to determine if fluxbox or blackbox goes on cd1 or 2, not determine the development direction of the Mandrake Tools. No matter how many people vote to put nVidia drivers in the distro, they won't go in. - -- Greg -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+SrlWwDpHP6GALAARApMEAJ4w2HXnRHOIdi2jTBl1nQn34Wcd5QCfXASq Fj/Om7aaBnS/GeG8TrJynYw= =21jZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] C++ question.
On Wed 2003-02-12 at 00:06:24 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, > I am using the GNU gcc version 3.2 (Mandrake Linux 9.0 3.2-1mdk) to compile > the program listed below. I get the compile time error: > > 23: field `cb' has incomplete type > > Can somebody please give me a hint on why the compiler is complaining? Because you try to use class C before it is defined (you declared it above, but the definition comes afterwards). As long as the class is only declared, you may only use it in limited context. For example, you may create a pointer or reference to the class, you may also define new types based on the class (typedef). But when you define class D, the compiler tries determine the memory layout of the class, and thefore has to know more about C than it does at that point. A more detailed explanation can be found in http://www.cuj.com/experts/2002/austern.htm?topic=experts HTH, Benjamin. [... reduced example to the relevant part ...] > class C; > > class D > { > C cb; > }; > > class C > { > int foo; > }; > > int main() { } msg119264/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Strange problem with my 8.2-box
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 03:50 pm, Anders Lind wrote: > Anders, I can't comment about command lines but I've seen this with other > pieces of software. Usually, when I lose something here, and it won't > restart > its because its not completely dead. You can do a "top" or > to bring up KDEs' System Guard and see if part of that process is still > running. > If it is, just kill it, then restart your app. > > Works for me here. :-) > > > top won't work since i can't write anything in the commandline and I have > as little KDE > installed as possible, but then again this is a Compaq-box we are talking > about LOL. I should perhaps also add that starting a terminal is no problem > but it kinda > hangs and no commandline comes up > > /Anders what happens if you ctrl+alt+f3? can you login there? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Strange problem with my 8.2-box
Anders, I can't comment about command lines but I've seen this with other pieces of software. Usually, when I lose something here, and it won't restart its because its not completely dead. You can do a "top" or to bring up KDEs' System Guard and see if part of that process is still running. If it is, just kill it, then restart your app. Works for me here. :-) top won't work since i can't write anything in the commandline and I have as little KDE installed as possible, but then again this is a Compaq-box we are talking about LOL. I should perhaps also add that starting a terminal is no problem but it kinda hangs and no commandline comes up /Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Apache and PHP variables
On Tue 2003-02-11 at 22:17:38 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > OK, so this is beyond the scope of a Mandrake forum, so forgive me for asking. > > I have transitioned my web server from Win2k to Linux. Everything seems to be > working OK except I just noticed a page that is supposed to not show the > banner, but does. > > In win2k, the PHP variable $URL was returning the name of the file for the > page, and I have a structure to not display when the $URL is a certain set of > values. > > php.ini has the global variables option turned on, so that's not the issue. > > Does anyone know if the variable is passed to PHP by the server or if it is > strictly a PHP value? > > Was it an IIS varaible that's not in Apache2? Any ideas? Don't know, but did you try to simply print out the new value and look in which way it has changed? Aside from that, does $_SERVER[$PHP_SELF] or what you need? It is the recommended way to find out about (the local part) of the URL. HTH, Benjamin. msg119261/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Rpmdrake in 9.1 needs to be stomped and burned
SNIP > >BTW, in the recent discussions of updating 9.1b3 from mirrors, I > failed to mention there's a new tool 'urpmi.setup' available. A > little GUI tool for the CL challenged to use urpmi. 'Course I haven't > used it ;)urpmi.setup-0.4.2-1mdk Gosh. I like it :-) urpmi.setup seems to use the online database of urpmi sources at PLF. So it should be possible to dynamically adjust the list as sources are added/deleted. Every release of Mandrake has nice new goodies like this, but all too often very few people ever find out about them. I hope this little app is clearly marked somewhere since the people who need it most are the ones who are least likely to find it. derek (An example of a neglected new feature is the Samba setup wizard - To set up a basic Samba server, all you have to do is press the Samba wizard button in Mandrake Control Centre. Only problem is you have to install the drakwizard RPM before you can see the button) -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rpmdrake in 9.1 needs to be stomped and burned
On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 14:39, Greg Meyer wrote: > On Wednesday 12 February 2003 02:09 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > > > > The positive side to all this is that in the Mandrakeclub RPM voting > > page, you can let it be known if you do not like LM9X Rpmdrake by > > casting your vote for Ctardif's entry, listed as "rpmdrake 1.4 > > (9.1/i586)". This would bring back the old rpmdrake. FYI...the version > > of rpmdrake that LM91 Beta 3 has off of the CD's is rpmdrake-2.1-4mdk. > > The version of rpmdrake that was shipped with LM82 was > > rpmdrake-1.4-18mdk. > > If you are still on 8.2, you must have missed the fact that the new rpmdrake > was introduced in 9.0 to quite favorable reaction. Favorable reaction where, exactly? I haven't seen any and I've scanned all three lists. There's one thread on Expert regarding this titled "Re: [expert] rpmdrake 9.0, a step backwards :(". This thread contains the major commentary on this subject that I've been able to find. In addition to that there is also no support for your "favorable reaction" theory when you look at the votes on the RPM Voting pages for rpmdrake-1.4-18mdk. It's gone all the way to page 2 out of 10 and as of right now is up to 47 votes. After today it will be 49 cause I will be casting my two cents in the wishing well. Among the dissenters on the thread above in the Expert list were Dale Huckeby, Toshiro, David Guntner, Franki and Piero Piutti. James Sparenburg made the following excellent point: "Ok now the discussion has gone on to the point of creating two equally problomatic camps. My question is there a middle gournd. Can the UI of old be merged with the codebase of new. The answer is yes." Of the ones that were *for* the new rpmdrake, there was Todd Lyons alone; and I was unable to discern anybody else in the thread that made it clear that they were liking rpmdrake 2.1. Bottom line is that I find no basis in reality for your statement concerning a "favorable reaction." > I think it is here to stay. And I think it depends on the votes. And it should. THAT should be the determining factor, and not some arbitrary tyrannical decision handed down from an ivory tower. LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.21pre4-1mdk Mandrake Cooker 9.1 Enlightenment 0.16.5-12mdkEvolution 1.2.1-1mdk Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rpmdrake in 9.1 needs to be stomped and burned
On Wednesday February 12 2003 01:09 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > Whew. I tell you what guysI love 9.1 in general and so far > things have been working OK. But this new rpmdrake UI is the worst > idea I've seen in a long long time. I wish I had one or two > gallons of holy water, some wooden stakes and some nightvision > goggles so I could put this undead monster to it's final rest. > > Rpmdrake in LM82 was very eloquent and I got addicted to it in > record time; all functions right there at your fingertips, > including update/install/removal/source configuration. I got used > to using it almost on a daily basis. Contrast this with 9.1, where > you have rpmdrake butchered into four seperate chunks, each one of > which does not allow access to any of the other pieces. To get > things done you have to go back to one of the other icons, which > brings up a seperate incarnation of rpmdrake doing the separate > thing. In LM91 beta 3, to duplicate the functionality of one LM82 > Rpmdrake UI instance, you must activate all four icon instances of > rpmdrake listed in MCC. Then you end up with four seperate > windows, each one of which looks identical to the other one except > for the title bars. It's absurd. > > Now try running the "new and improved" rpmdrake from an Eterm. It > puts you into "software packages installation" mode. Can you > affect what mode you want it to go into? Not according to rpmdrake > --help. There is not a method listed to do so. Translation: > "Mandrake Update" mode: unavailable. "Remove software" mode: > unavailable. "Software Sources Manager" mode: unavailable. > Previously all these functions were easily accessible from within > the LM8X rpmdrake UI. NOW you have to activate a seperate icon for > each one. El dumb-o. > > The positive side to all this is that in the Mandrakeclub RPM > voting page, you can let it be known if you do not like LM9X > Rpmdrake by casting your vote for Ctardif's entry, listed as > "rpmdrake 1.4 (9.1/i586)". This would bring back the old rpmdrake. > FYI...the version of rpmdrake that LM91 Beta 3 has off of the CD's > is rpmdrake-2.1-4mdk. The version of rpmdrake that was shipped with > LM82 was > rpmdrake-1.4-18mdk. > > Now where did I put those NV gogs > > LX Now Lyvim, I believe you read the cooker list and should know this was all hammered out, fuss'd about, reasons given, and concessions made months ago on the cooker list. If I'm terribly wrong, then search the cooker archives back in Oct., Nov., Dec Tho many were vocal (as you are) about the changes, the logic and reasons for it as given by the Mdk. developers were compelling if not convincing, and much progress has been made with the new versions since. But what do I know, it's much easier and quicker to manage packages on the CL anyhow ;~ppp BTW, in the recent discussions of updating 9.1b3 from mirrors, I failed to mention there's a new tool 'urpmi.setup' available. A little GUI tool for the CL challenged to use urpmi. 'Course I haven't used it ;)urpmi.setup-0.4.2-1mdk -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Module question?
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 01:46 pm, Jerry Barton wrote: > Cool at least i'll have an idea with the modules. I have a Saitek joystick > which is totally useless now (no linux module) so i've been doing any games > using the kb (and been getting quite good at it too ROFL) but I plan on > eventually getting a new js/gamepad. I think the only thing about M$ I > miss is Tomb Raider 3... I never quite got it finished before I got so fed > up with Winblows that I formatted my HD's lol. well ok i miss yahoo! voice > chat too... but can live without that hahaha. > > Jerry. Did you try the generic module for joysticks with that one? Ya never know. :-) -- /\ Dark< >Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rpmdrake in 9.1 needs to be stomped and burned
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 12 February 2003 02:09 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > > The positive side to all this is that in the Mandrakeclub RPM voting > page, you can let it be known if you do not like LM9X Rpmdrake by > casting your vote for Ctardif's entry, listed as "rpmdrake 1.4 > (9.1/i586)". This would bring back the old rpmdrake. FYI...the version > of rpmdrake that LM91 Beta 3 has off of the CD's is rpmdrake-2.1-4mdk. > The version of rpmdrake that was shipped with LM82 was > rpmdrake-1.4-18mdk. If you are still on 8.2, you must have missed the fact that the new rpmdrake was introduced in 9.0 to quite favorable reaction. I think it is here to stay. Although some do agree with you, I don't. I personally like the new rpmdrake much better. It is much faster and I think the package selection is a lot easier. I really like the way it gives you the config files diffs when upgrading a pacage that already exists on the machine. - -- Greg -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+SqMGwDpHP6GALAARAu24AJ9SMYu8OTDA1uA49IclSSbSKUfA1QCePXlq Wc43SQz53lMBBLETkngoyvs= =6jLU -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] unkillable process?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 12 February 2003 01:25 pm, Jerry Barton wrote: > I had mozilla crash on me earlier this morning and when i tried to re-start > it i got that blasted mozilla profile picker thingy. i did ps ax | grep > mozilla and it came up with 6 mozilla processes. i killed them all BUT... > 2 of them would not die. i tried every signal i could think of to stop it > but it refused to be killed. I finally had to reboot. mplayer and xine > have both done this to me before too, come to think of it. to get mozilla > to work i've had to remove mozilla 1.1 and galeon and install mozilla 1.2.1 > from source, move my ~/.mozilla folder to ~/.mozilla-old, I STILL had to > create a new profile but at least mozilla is back up and running. (of > course... i can't install galeon now because it wants mozilla 1.1's mdk > rpm). Anyway... what to do about these semi immortal processes? > > Jerry > > -- How are you killing the process? - -- Greg -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+SqF0wDpHP6GALAARAnD6AJ4oRRFej4zNZBBHo8E8j6+g6/t0zgCeJhK+ C1g7RQRUAulqj2yOGfOMSkM= =Q79V -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Rpmdrake in 9.1 needs to be stomped and burned
Whew. I tell you what guysI love 9.1 in general and so far things have been working OK. But this new rpmdrake UI is the worst idea I've seen in a long long time. I wish I had one or two gallons of holy water, some wooden stakes and some nightvision goggles so I could put this undead monster to it's final rest. Rpmdrake in LM82 was very eloquent and I got addicted to it in record time; all functions right there at your fingertips, including update/install/removal/source configuration. I got used to using it almost on a daily basis. Contrast this with 9.1, where you have rpmdrake butchered into four seperate chunks, each one of which does not allow access to any of the other pieces. To get things done you have to go back to one of the other icons, which brings up a seperate incarnation of rpmdrake doing the separate thing. In LM91 beta 3, to duplicate the functionality of one LM82 Rpmdrake UI instance, you must activate all four icon instances of rpmdrake listed in MCC. Then you end up with four seperate windows, each one of which looks identical to the other one except for the title bars. It's absurd. Now try running the "new and improved" rpmdrake from an Eterm. It puts you into "software packages installation" mode. Can you affect what mode you want it to go into? Not according to rpmdrake --help. There is not a method listed to do so. Translation: "Mandrake Update" mode: unavailable. "Remove software" mode: unavailable. "Software Sources Manager" mode: unavailable. Previously all these functions were easily accessible from within the LM8X rpmdrake UI. NOW you have to activate a seperate icon for each one. El dumb-o. The positive side to all this is that in the Mandrakeclub RPM voting page, you can let it be known if you do not like LM9X Rpmdrake by casting your vote for Ctardif's entry, listed as "rpmdrake 1.4 (9.1/i586)". This would bring back the old rpmdrake. FYI...the version of rpmdrake that LM91 Beta 3 has off of the CD's is rpmdrake-2.1-4mdk. The version of rpmdrake that was shipped with LM82 was rpmdrake-1.4-18mdk. Now where did I put those NV gogs LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.21pre4-1mdk Mandrake Cooker 9.1 Enlightenment 0.16.5-12mdkEvolution 1.2.1-1mdk Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] M9.1beta3 3rd install
On Wednesday February 12 2003 12:30 pm, Jerry Barton wrote: > Thanks for that info, Tom, I'll check my system. I dont think that > i have curl installed... (ok whereis curl returned nothing unless > it's part of libcurl which IS installed locate curl gave > /usr/lib/libcurl.so.2 and /usr/lib/libcurl.so.2.0.2 along with > other regex matches) but perhaps i don't have wget > installed/configured correctly. I'll check on that :) > > Jerry tom$ frpm curl libcurl2-7.10.3-1mdk curl-7.10.3-1mdk tom$ which curl /usr/bin/curl I don't know if those are what beta3 installs (probly updates), but at least in a recent b3 install, curl was installed. I should'a said why I prefer curl. For one I like the output better than wget's. A matter of preference. The big advantage during multiple file d/l's tho, is curl doesn't reconnect to the mirror between each file like wget does. So at the least, it's faster. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Module question?
On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:13:53 -0500 "Ronald J. Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 12 February 2003 04:12 am, Jerry Barton wrote: > > > Just wondering... for my own future reference (i might need to do this one > > day lol)... did it work? > > > > Jerry. > > Hi Jerry - sorry I didn't report the results back - I should have. > > Yes, it did work - doing all the js tests now show my USB joystick working, > and its showing up in most of the games log files. Not all is peaches 'n > creme though - in many cases, you still have to go into each games configs > (.ini's usually) and add/modify things. Still - I'm much further along than I > was 2 weeks ago. :-) > > Thanks for all your help! > > -- > > /\ > Dark< >Lord > \/ > > > Cool at least i'll have an idea with the modules. I have a Saitek joystick which is totally useless now (no linux module) so i've been doing any games using the kb (and been getting quite good at it too ROFL) but I plan on eventually getting a new js/gamepad. I think the only thing about M$ I miss is Tomb Raider 3... I never quite got it finished before I got so fed up with Winblows that I formatted my HD's lol. well ok i miss yahoo! voice chat too... but can live without that hahaha. Jerry. -- -- Registered Linux user # 300600 Registered Linux machine # 185855 at http://counter.li.org (¬_ //\ V_/_ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Leave this l i s t ?
On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 07:28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > How do I leave this l i s t ? I have tried, and tried ... can't find any > info. Please help. > > Thanks. The same way you got on it. Read: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/flists.php3 -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] IRC server for Mandrake..
Nyah Hah Hah >:) how insidious (sp?) LOL Jerry. On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 02:31:16 +0800 "Franki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Probably, but this way they will be left wondering what happened... > > I can claim there is some server problem.. :-) > > > rgds > > Franki > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jerry Barton > Sent: Thursday, 13 February 2003 2:20 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie] IRC server for Mandrake.. > > > On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 02:04:31 +0800 > "Franki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >I have used dancer and epona and neither were that long a compilation. > > > > > >Civileme > > > > > > > > This is a 233mmx 128MB machine that i use as a net gateway for my home > > network... > > > > If I put it on my XP2200 system, I imagine it'd be alot faster... > > > > From what I can tell, unrealircd is a very comprehensive ircd written in > > what looks to be C... > > > > Its so comprehensive that I can't find the config file :-) > > > > > > This is why I prefer rpms... I can always find out where everything got > put > > without reading code. > > > > I used to be a longtime IRC user.. was a big fan of pirch.. but haven't > used > > it in years and never setup a server before.. > > > > I'd like to be able to use DCC, and the very basic irc facilities.. since > > its only for work I don't need any of the extra's, but I'd like to learn. > > (if they piss me off, I'll just use gShield to blacklist their IP address > > :-) > > > > I have root, why do I need moderator facilities etc... :-) > > > > > > rgds > > > > Franki > > > > > > > LOL > > seems like it'd be easier to just k-line 'em =)~ > Jerry > > > -- > -- > Registered Linux user # 300600 > Registered Linux machine # 185855 > at http://counter.li.org > (¬_ > //\ > V_/_ > > > > -- -- Registered Linux user # 300600 Registered Linux machine # 185855 at http://counter.li.org (¬_ //\ V_/_ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Leave this l i s t ?
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 06:28 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > How do I leave this l i s t ? I have tried, and tried > ... can't find any info. Please help. > > Thanks. Go to the following page and read the instructions : http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/flists.php3 Kaj Haulrich. === Powered by Linux- Mandrake 9.0 Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Source : my 100 % Microsoft-free personal computer. === Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Leave this l i s t ?
On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:28:41 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > How do I leave this l i s t ? I have tried, and tried ... can't find any > info. Please help. > > Thanks. > > > go to http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/flists.php3 on that page under the big "Support Lists" header will be an input box for your email address. put it in there. select the language of the list you're on (this one would be english). below click the button next to "unsubscribe" then click "Submit" be sure to use the same email address to UNsubscribe that you used to subscribe HTH Jerry -- -- Registered Linux user # 300600 Registered Linux machine # 185855 at http://counter.li.org (¬_ //\ V_/_ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] IRC server for Mandrake..
Probably, but this way they will be left wondering what happened... I can claim there is some server problem.. :-) rgds Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jerry Barton Sent: Thursday, 13 February 2003 2:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] IRC server for Mandrake.. On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 02:04:31 +0800 "Franki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >I have used dancer and epona and neither were that long a compilation. > > > >Civileme > > > > This is a 233mmx 128MB machine that i use as a net gateway for my home > network... > > If I put it on my XP2200 system, I imagine it'd be alot faster... > > From what I can tell, unrealircd is a very comprehensive ircd written in > what looks to be C... > > Its so comprehensive that I can't find the config file :-) > > > This is why I prefer rpms... I can always find out where everything got put > without reading code. > > I used to be a longtime IRC user.. was a big fan of pirch.. but haven't used > it in years and never setup a server before.. > > I'd like to be able to use DCC, and the very basic irc facilities.. since > its only for work I don't need any of the extra's, but I'd like to learn. > (if they piss me off, I'll just use gShield to blacklist their IP address > :-) > > I have root, why do I need moderator facilities etc... :-) > > > rgds > > Franki > > > LOL seems like it'd be easier to just k-line 'em =)~ Jerry -- -- Registered Linux user # 300600 Registered Linux machine # 185855 at http://counter.li.org (¬_ //\ V_/_ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] M9.1beta3 3rd install
On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 12:21:34 -0600 Tom Brinkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday February 12 2003 09:30 am, et wrote: > > I think urpmi uses either wget or curl, and one supports resume and > > one does not as default, and urpmi defaults to the one that does > > not support resume, or something like that > >Default is wget, unless curl is installed. 9.1b3 installs curl, so > that's what urpmi will use. I tend to like curl better, but it seems > wget is often more bulletproof. So, if curl is installed, > >urpmi.update -a --wget && urpmi --auto-select --wget > > Will make urpmi use wget. From the man page, > >"Wget has been designed for robustness over slow or unstable > network connections; if a download fails due to a network problem, it > will keep retrying until the whole file has been retrieved. If the > server supports regetting, it will instruct the server to continue > the download from where it left off." > >OTOH, it seems curl needs a switch to support resumes, > > -C/--continue-at > "Continue/Resume a previous file transfer at the given > offset. The given offset is the exact number of bytes that > will be skipped counted from the beginning of the source file before > it is transfered to the destination. If used with uploads, the ftp > server command SIZE will not be used by curl." > > Thanks for jarring my brain Ed. I didn't think to look at these > man pages. It appears that --wget is a better option with problem > connections. Then urpmi should resume, even after a re-connect. > >I've been usin 'cook' > (alias cook='urpmi.update -a --wget && urpmi --auto-select') as I got > tired of hdlist retrieval failures due to "too many users" and such > errors. --wget just keeps hammerin away till they finally let me in. > So currently I'm usin wget to update sources, but curl to get the > updates ;) > > -- > Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas > > Thanks for that info, Tom, I'll check my system. I dont think that i have curl installed... (ok whereis curl returned nothing unless it's part of libcurl which IS installed locate curl gave /usr/lib/libcurl.so.2 and /usr/lib/libcurl.so.2.0.2 along with other regex matches) but perhaps i don't have wget installed/configured correctly. I'll check on that :) Jerry -- -- Registered Linux user # 300600 Registered Linux machine # 185855 at http://counter.li.org (¬_ //\ V_/_ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Leave this l i s t ?
How do I leave this l i s t ? I have tried, and tried ... can't find any info. Please help. Thanks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] unkillable process?
I had mozilla crash on me earlier this morning and when i tried to re-start it i got that blasted mozilla profile picker thingy. i did ps ax | grep mozilla and it came up with 6 mozilla processes. i killed them all BUT... 2 of them would not die. i tried every signal i could think of to stop it but it refused to be killed. I finally had to reboot. mplayer and xine have both done this to me before too, come to think of it. to get mozilla to work i've had to remove mozilla 1.1 and galeon and install mozilla 1.2.1 from source, move my ~/.mozilla folder to ~/.mozilla-old, I STILL had to create a new profile but at least mozilla is back up and running. (of course... i can't install galeon now because it wants mozilla 1.1's mdk rpm). Anyway... what to do about these semi immortal processes? Jerry -- -- Registered Linux user # 300600 Registered Linux machine # 185855 at http://counter.li.org (¬_ //\ V_/_ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] M9.1beta3 3rd install
On Wednesday February 12 2003 09:30 am, et wrote: > I think urpmi uses either wget or curl, and one supports resume and > one does not as default, and urpmi defaults to the one that does > not support resume, or something like that Default is wget, unless curl is installed. 9.1b3 installs curl, so that's what urpmi will use. I tend to like curl better, but it seems wget is often more bulletproof. So, if curl is installed, urpmi.update -a --wget && urpmi --auto-select --wget Will make urpmi use wget. From the man page, "Wget has been designed for robustness over slow or unstable network connections; if a download fails due to a network problem, it will keep retrying until the whole file has been retrieved. If the server supports regetting, it will instruct the server to continue the download from where it left off." OTOH, it seems curl needs a switch to support resumes, -C/--continue-at "Continue/Resume a previous file transfer at the given offset. The given offset is the exact number of bytes that will be skipped counted from the beginning of the source file before it is transfered to the destination. If used with uploads, the ftp server command SIZE will not be used by curl." Thanks for jarring my brain Ed. I didn't think to look at these man pages. It appears that --wget is a better option with problem connections. Then urpmi should resume, even after a re-connect. I've been usin 'cook' (alias cook='urpmi.update -a --wget && urpmi --auto-select') as I got tired of hdlist retrieval failures due to "too many users" and such errors. --wget just keeps hammerin away till they finally let me in. So currently I'm usin wget to update sources, but curl to get the updates ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] IRC server for Mandrake..
On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 02:04:31 +0800 "Franki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >I have used dancer and epona and neither were that long a compilation. > > > >Civileme > > > > This is a 233mmx 128MB machine that i use as a net gateway for my home > network... > > If I put it on my XP2200 system, I imagine it'd be alot faster... > > From what I can tell, unrealircd is a very comprehensive ircd written in > what looks to be C... > > Its so comprehensive that I can't find the config file :-) > > > This is why I prefer rpms... I can always find out where everything got put > without reading code. > > I used to be a longtime IRC user.. was a big fan of pirch.. but haven't used > it in years and never setup a server before.. > > I'd like to be able to use DCC, and the very basic irc facilities.. since > its only for work I don't need any of the extra's, but I'd like to learn. > (if they piss me off, I'll just use gShield to blacklist their IP address > :-) > > I have root, why do I need moderator facilities etc... :-) > > > rgds > > Franki > > > LOL seems like it'd be easier to just k-line 'em =)~ Jerry -- -- Registered Linux user # 300600 Registered Linux machine # 185855 at http://counter.li.org (¬_ //\ V_/_ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Strange problem with my 8.2-box
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 09:23 am, Anders Lind wrote: > Hello there, > > I have a strange problem with my Mdk 8.2-box, after a while I lose the > commandline in for example RXVT, if I open up a new one nothing comes up. > Do anyone have ever heard of this or can give me an idea what I can do to > fix this. > > Best Regards, > Anders Anders, I can't comment about command lines but I've seen this with other pieces of software. Usually, when I lose something here, and it won't restart its because its not completely dead. You can do a "top" or to bring up KDEs' System Guard and see if part of that process is still running. If it is, just kill it, then restart your app. Works for me here. :-) -- /\ Dark< >Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Module question?
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 04:12 am, Jerry Barton wrote: > Just wondering... for my own future reference (i might need to do this one > day lol)... did it work? > > Jerry. Hi Jerry - sorry I didn't report the results back - I should have. Yes, it did work - doing all the js tests now show my USB joystick working, and its showing up in most of the games log files. Not all is peaches 'n creme though - in many cases, you still have to go into each games configs (.ini's usually) and add/modify things. Still - I'm much further along than I was 2 weeks ago. :-) Thanks for all your help! -- /\ Dark< >Lord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] IRC server for Mandrake..
>I have used dancer and epona and neither were that long a compilation. > >Civileme This is a 233mmx 128MB machine that i use as a net gateway for my home network... If I put it on my XP2200 system, I imagine it'd be alot faster... >From what I can tell, unrealircd is a very comprehensive ircd written in what looks to be C... Its so comprehensive that I can't find the config file :-) This is why I prefer rpms... I can always find out where everything got put without reading code. I used to be a longtime IRC user.. was a big fan of pirch.. but haven't used it in years and never setup a server before.. I'd like to be able to use DCC, and the very basic irc facilities.. since its only for work I don't need any of the extra's, but I'd like to learn. (if they piss me off, I'll just use gShield to blacklist their IP address :-) I have root, why do I need moderator facilities etc... :-) rgds Franki Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] IRC server for Mandrake..
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 07:26 am, Franki wrote: > Thanks guys.. > > much appreciated... > > > I have already started compiling unrealircd (its been going for 20 > minutes)... but if its a pain in the @ss, then I'll try the mandrake one.. > > > thanks again.. > > > rgds > > Frank > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of civileme > Sent: Thursday, 13 February 2003 12:20 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [newbie] IRC server for Mandrake.. > > On Wednesday 12 February 2003 12:16 am, Franki wrote: > > Hi guys, > > > > I want to setup our own IRC server for use between myself and my work > > collegues.. > > > > Does Mandrake come with any IRC server RPM's??? > > > > I am currently looking at unrealIRCD, but I'd rather just install a > > mandrake RPM... > > > > > > Anyone know of one?? > > > > > > rgds > > > > Franki > > ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/contrib/RPMS > > File: ircd-2.10.3-9mdk.i586.rpm > > It works. the services component could stll be several different programs > if > you plan to use chanserv and nickserv and messageserv. > > Civileme I have used dancer and epona and neither were that long a compilation. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Stoopid question from a soon to be newbie
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 01:16 am, cowinacape wrote: > Howdy all, > > Just a quick question, as I sit here waiting for mailman to deliver our > (the girl friends and mine) mandrake disks. Can we expect Mandrake to > behave the same on her PC as it does on my Mac, ie: does the OS operate > differently on different machine platforms? Or is Mandrake simply mandrake > regardless of where it calls home? > > Thanks Kindly > Dan It operates pretty much the same. Most MAC hardware is supported because there is less of it, and there are some webcams and scanners and modems that don't work under PC. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT Nigerian spam scam
On Wednesday 12 Feb 2003 3:58 pm, magnet wrote: > On Wednesday 12 Feb 2003 12:21 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Wednesday 12 Feb 2003 11:40 am, Poogle wrote: > > > IIRC someone on this list collected these scams, I've got a new variant > > > which is allegedly from Angola if you want it for your collection > > > please e mail me off-list > > > > I wonder why there's a new upsurge of these? I had two in one day at the > > weekend - different versions. > > > > Anne > > Personally I think Anne is an avid collector of these but she just won't > admit that to us ;-)) OOooo - you found me out! Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Fwd: Re: [newbie] SAMBA help?
Tried the new one, same result... "Permission denied" I'll try the http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php option. Regards, PM On Wednesday 12 February 2003 10:01 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 17:55:22 + > From: Kaj Haulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Wednesday 12 February 2003 03:50 pm, you wrote: > > When I tried to run this script, I got "permission > > denied"... > > > > I definitely have problems with my urpmi update sources, > > as I can't get libxml2 installed either. > > > > Any ideas? And thanks for all the help... > > PM > > Hmmm... there was a *private* thing in the original > script, I'll attach an updated version. Try it. If that > doesn't work either, point your browser to : > > http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php > > where you can define sources in a very *GUI* way. > > BTW : You posted to me off-list. Why ? - You see, most of > us here on the list are *partial* experts, so when someone > - me for instance - can't help you out completely, chances > are that someone else has the exact key. Many listers read > all the posts, so in this way you increase chances by some > orders of magnitude. That's why I post this answer to you > as well as the list. - OK ? > > HTH > Kaj Haulrich. > === > Powered by Linux- Mandrake 9.0 > Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org > Source : my 100 % Microsoft-free personal computer. > === -- "I'd rather be upside down in my kayak than right side up at my desk" - bumper sticker, 72 Volvo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Aargh: Internet Explorer HTTPS <=> DNS fail
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 12:46 am, Michael Adams wrote: > Does somebody recognize a strange error a friend is having while making > HTTPS attempts to connect to his bank with IE (Never thought i'd be asking > this one here). IE returns an Error Page with no number (like 404) > > The page advises it could be caused by > - site temporarily unavailable > - slow connection > - incorrect address > - site doesn't exist > (Sounds 404ish doesn't it) > > He was previously connecting OK to this site. It does still exist. All > Security settings are checked on in Tools > Internet Options > Advanced tab > > Security (SSL 2.0, SSL 3.0, TLS 1.0, PCT 1.0). > > I did see a momentary request for "http://https://", Which > may be the problem, or it may be an attempt to re-lookup after the initial > failure. > > My second course of action is to reload win98 for him as neither the bank > nor his ISP could help. Loading Mandrake for him is not an option as he is > on a course which requires Word and Outlook Express (AAARGH again). OOwriter <=> Word Evolution<=>Outlook Express Use Opera free version for either his windoze or Mandrake, and set it to identify itself as IE. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Fwd: Re: [newbie] SAMBA help?
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 17:55:22 + From: Kaj Haulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wednesday 12 February 2003 03:50 pm, you wrote: > When I tried to run this script, I got "permission > denied"... > > I definitely have problems with my urpmi update sources, > as I can't get libxml2 installed either. > > Any ideas? And thanks for all the help... > PM Hmmm... there was a *private* thing in the original script, I'll attach an updated version. Try it. If that doesn't work either, point your browser to : http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/index.php where you can define sources in a very *GUI* way. BTW : You posted to me off-list. Why ? - You see, most of us here on the list are *partial* experts, so when someone - me for instance - can't help you out completely, chances are that someone else has the exact key. Many listers read all the posts, so in this way you increase chances by some orders of magnitude. That's why I post this answer to you as well as the list. - OK ? HTH Kaj Haulrich. === Powered by Linux- Mandrake 9.0 Registered Linux user # 214073 at http://counter.li.org Source : my 100 % Microsoft-free personal computer. === Updatescript Description: application/shellscript Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Linux Raid posting on slashdot for Raid questions that were asked
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RE: [newbie] IRC server for Mandrake..
Thanks guys.. much appreciated... I have already started compiling unrealircd (its been going for 20 minutes)... but if its a pain in the @ss, then I'll try the mandrake one.. thanks again.. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of civileme Sent: Thursday, 13 February 2003 12:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] IRC server for Mandrake.. On Wednesday 12 February 2003 12:16 am, Franki wrote: > Hi guys, > > I want to setup our own IRC server for use between myself and my work > collegues.. > > Does Mandrake come with any IRC server RPM's??? > > I am currently looking at unrealIRCD, but I'd rather just install a > mandrake RPM... > > > Anyone know of one?? > > > rgds > > Franki ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/contrib/RPMS File: ircd-2.10.3-9mdk.i586.rpm It works. the services component could stll be several different programs if you plan to use chanserv and nickserv and messageserv. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] IRC server for Mandrake..
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 12:16 am, Franki wrote: > Hi guys, > > I want to setup our own IRC server for use between myself and my work > collegues.. > > Does Mandrake come with any IRC server RPM's??? > > I am currently looking at unrealIRCD, but I'd rather just install a > mandrake RPM... > > > Anyone know of one?? > > > rgds > > Franki ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/distr/Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/contrib/RPMS File: ircd-2.10.3-9mdk.i586.rpm It works. the services component could stll be several different programs if you plan to use chanserv and nickserv and messageserv. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [Newbie] Windowmaker is borked on 9.0????
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 12 February 2003 09:18 am, Tom Brinkman wrote: > The last part '$1' isn't needed, eg, > > tom$ alias frpm > alias frpm='rpm -qa | grep -i' Thanks for the correction. I learn something new every day. - -- Greg -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+SloPwDpHP6GALAARAstjAJ0aaW4UvoFN2mRCO7yK4WdHKySJEACgjLme TBTdxpeETyC6sLnbn6YUlW4= =WHS6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] easy to use HTML editor?
Angus, If you have a copy of Dreamweaver, you can get it to run under Linux. Check out http://www.frankscorner.org/wine/ to see how to get several apps to run under wine, including Flash and Dreamweaver. Dreamweaver's code is pretty clean, but there is no substitute for knowing HTML and coding it your way in a text editor. I use Quanta, Bluefish and Screem also under Linux when I don't remember the tags, but 9 times out of 10, I'm using gvim for the nice syntax highlighting features. I've never tried the install with wine, but I have other apps working under wine and Frank's site has been a good reference. Good luck, ++alan On Tue, 2003-02-11 at 19:14, Angus Auld wrote: > Thanks to everyone that replied for the feedback. > I guess short of sweet-talking someone else into doing the coding for me, I'll have >to spend some time working > my brain cells, and learn the basics of HTML. Kind of figured that was likely ;-). > > I have been told by others who do HTML work that a wysiwyg editor is OK to get the >basics down, and then > you can spruce it up with a text editor. > As someone suggested though, you might as well get it right the first time. A job >worth doing is worth doing right, as they say. I am not lacking a choice of text > editors for Linux. I have "HTML for Dummies" on > hold at the local library. :-) > > Thanks once again ppl. > Best regards. > > -- Angus > > It is clear that the individual who persecutes a man, > his brother, because he is not of the same opinion, > is a monster.-- Voltaire > -- Alan Carbutt Systems Administrator/Programmer Adams State College 719-587-7741 [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[newbie] Strange problem with my 8.2-box
Hello there, I have a strange problem with my Mdk 8.2-box, after a while I lose the commandline in for example RXVT, if I open up a new one nothing comes up. Do anyone have ever heard of this or can give me an idea what I can do to fix this. Best Regards, Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [Newbie] Windowmaker is borked on 9.0????
On Tuesday February 11 2003 09:01 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: > On Tuesday 11 February 2003 06:23 pm, Damian Gatabria wrote: > > > Hey FF, try this. Add the following line to your ~/.bashrc > > > file > > > > > > alias rpmq="rpm -qa | grep -i $1" > > > > Nice idea... why don't i have that on my box!? > > I bet you do now ;-) The last part '$1' isn't needed, eg, tom$ alias frpm alias frpm='rpm -qa | grep -i' tom$ frpm rpm grpmi-9.1-5mdk rpmdrake-2.1-5mdk perl-URPM-0.81-7mdk gurpmi-4.2-16mdk rpm-helper-0.9-1mdk rpm-build-4.0.4-28mdk rpm-4.0.4-28mdk urpmi-4.2-16mdk rpmtools-4.5-7mdk Actually I believe the use of 'urpmq' (man urpmq) is better than my alias, but it's hard to teach an old dog (like me) new tricks ;) -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [Newbie] Windowmaker is borked on 9.0????
On Tuesday February 11 2003 07:01 pm, et wrote: > > >[root@localhost user]# rpm -qa | grep -i Windowmaker > > >WindowMaker-0.80.1-2.1mdk > > That will do. Thx Damian. Not that I'll remember the command > > cause I don't understand grep yet... :) > > So I'll just save your mail as a txt file. > > - > > FemmeFatale > grep is just a way to use regular words to sort and see only > certian info. in the above command, rpm -qa (asks the rpm program > to Query All so -qa) then "|" is a "pipe to" or route thru, then, > grep -i Windowmaker says only answers that (-i) include > "WIndowmaker" so grep strips out all the answers that don't include > "Windowmaker" -i, --ignore-case Ignore case distinctions in both the PATTERN and the input files. IOW's, rpm -qa | grep -i windowmaker will also return WindowMaker-0.80.1-2.1mdk -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] TEST TEST TEST
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Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 & PNY GeForce4 MX 440-SE
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 08:38 am, John S. Chalice wrote: > Hey there.. > > I just upgraded my video card to a new PNY PCI GeForce4 MX 440-SE, from my > previous of a Radeon 7000. Unfortunately, I am still having a problem > getting XWindows to work for Mandrake 9.0. I tried installing the I32 > nVidia driver rpm binaries (both the GLX and the kernel) for Mandrake from > nVidia's site.. I also tried making the drivers from the .tar.gz source > files as well, *and* I tried playing with some of the options in the > XF86Config-4 file.. but I still couldn't get the GUI to show up. It > doesn't lock up the keyboard, but I can't see anything but a black screen. > Does anybody have any suggestions? Thanks for your time. > > -- John Chalice > a.k.a. crysaliq ??startx?? init 5? post XF86Config-4 file? what happens if you hit enter? any flashing lites or prompt? do you have anything on screen durring bootup? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing fonts in Mandrake Control Center (mcc) -TIP
I agree. That would definitely be a cool idea to have some of the other listers on here post some tips and tricks about Mandrake. I'd even like to see it become a mailing list all its own. It would greatly help us newbies, and perhaps even the experts as well. Here here! Terry Jerry Barton wrote: I think it would be cool to see some other tips other listers may have (posted under a new topic so that a search in the archive would find it... maybe starting with TIP: ) that they've found. I'm by no means a guru (or even a guru in training lol) just a normal person using Linux on my Desktop. I could sure benefit from it (and I'm sure others would too), and if no one has any objections, I'll occasionally post little tips I use. Just seems like a neat idea to share a little help that might not have been specifically asked about but is still very useful! I might even use my webserver to set up a site with TIP: topics from the list we could refer people too as well. What do you all think? Jerry. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Terry Sheltra PC Technician/Asst. Network Administrator University of Virginia School of Architecture 434.982.3047 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Registered Linux User #218330 Composed on a 100% Microsoft-free PC Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] digest
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 08:40 am, Jerry Barton wrote: > On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 08:23:04 -0500 > > et <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wednesday 12 February 2003 07:01 am, Weber wrote: > > > 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 5:10 > > > > really??? > > well it beats 192.168.0.1:139 > =)~ lol > (ok its late and i'm getting loopy) I laffed Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] webmin
On Wednesday 12 February 2003 07:19 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Wednesday 12 Feb 2003 10:41 am, Gil Katz wrote: > > On Wednesday 12 February 2003 11:52, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > On Wednesday 12 Feb 2003 8:49 am, Gil Katz wrote: > > > > Hi > > > > when i try to enter to webmin i only get the user password > > > > when i enter root and the password nothing happens > > > > and i get again the login window. > > > > any idea > > > > Gil > > > > > > Does the user password let you in? If so, there's a screen for Webmin > > > users. Make sure that root is on the list, and try again. When you're > > > sure it's working properly you can remove the user if you want to. > > > > > > Anne > > > > No when using the user i get login failed > > Gil > > Sounds to me like a corrupt installation. Wait a few hours to see if > anyone else has any ideas. If nothing comes, uninstall and start again. > Are you using the Mandrake install from the cds? > > Anne caps lock Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] digest
On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 08:23:04 -0500 et <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 12 February 2003 07:01 am, Weber wrote: > > 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 5:10 > really??? > > well it beats 192.168.0.1:139 =)~ lol (ok its late and i'm getting loopy) -- -- Registered Linux user # 300600 Registered Linux machine # 185855 at http://counter.li.org (¬_ //\ V_/_ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Mandrake 9.0 & PNY GeForce4 MX 440-SE
Hey there.. I just upgraded my video card to a new PNY PCI GeForce4 MX 440-SE, from my previous of a Radeon 7000. Unfortunately, I am still having a problem getting XWindows to work for Mandrake 9.0. I tried installing the I32 nVidia driver rpm binaries (both the GLX and the kernel) for Mandrake from nVidia's site.. I also tried making the drivers from the .tar.gz source files as well, *and* I tried playing with some of the options in the XF86Config-4 file.. but I still couldn't get the GUI to show up. It doesn't lock up the keyboard, but I can't see anything but a black screen. Does anybody have any suggestions? Thanks for your time. -- John Chalice a.k.a. crysaliq Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com