[newbie-it] Utility per file html
salve, sapete se esiste un utility che consenta a scelta di eliminare da una pagina html gli elementi superflui tipo commenti, spazi, tabulazioni, script, immagini, sotto windows c'e' html shrinker, che ripulisce e comprime; sotto linux?
Re: [newbie-it] connessione con modem ADSL
Tuesday, March 25, 2003 5:55 PM wrote: Andrea Celli Intanto che telefona a Telecom, gli consiglierei di puntare un po' più in alto e di chiedere un modem ethernet (qualsiasi marca e modello). Si configurano ancor più facilmente, funzionano meglio e, se gli danno un Ericcson HM220dp, potrebbe ritrovarsi con un oggetto che funziona anche da router ;-) ciao, Andrea Ciao a tutti, scusate se mi intrometto, ma vorrei avere anche io un consiglio in merito. Vorrei farmi dare dalla Telecom (ho un abbonamento alice adsl) un modem Ethernet perchè ho deciso di passare del tutto ad Linux ed il modem che mi hanno dato quando mi sono abbonato, il Datacom SpeedWeb, non è compatibile con Linux e grazie al consiglio di Andrea mi farò dare un modem ethernet Ericsson (i modelli Ethernet che danno sono Datacom e Ericsson). Adesso il consiglio che vi chiedo è: potete consigliarmi una scheda di rete a basso prezzo (magari 10 - 20 euro ) ovviamente compatibile con Linux! Questa secondo voi va bene? D-LINK DFE-538TX scheda rete 10/100 Mbit PCI wol Considerate il fatto che devo usarla solo per connettermi ad internet, e al massimo, visto che c'è la possibilità, mettere il Desktop ed il Laptop in rete. (non sono molto pratico di reti). Grazie a tutti e Forza Linux.
Re: [newbie-it] connessione con modem ADSL - D Link
gia che ci siamo...anch'io sono in attesa di un collegamento con alice... ho il modem usb d-link 200dsl con porta usbqualcuno di voi l'ha configurato con linux?la soluzione dovrebbe essere solo temporanea in quanto appena arriva il router faccio uno scambio alla pari :-)) Fulvio
Re: [newbie-it] la 9.1 è out
On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 18:29:29 +0100 francesco.melo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :))) happy linux Questa mattina, quando sono uscito da casa, ho lanciato il download. Stassera, se tutto va bene, l'installo. :-)) Però, cerchiamo di comprare anche i prodotti commerciali. Altrimenti, vista la situazione economica dell'azienda, questa rischia di essere l'ultima Mandrake :- ciao, Andrea
Re: [newbie-it] la 9.1 è out
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alle 15:01, mercoledì 26 marzo 2003, Andrea Celli ha scritto: Questa mattina, quando sono uscito da casa, ho lanciato il download Stassera, se tutto va bene, l'installo. :-)) Però, cerchiamo di comprare anche i prodotti commerciali Altrimenti, vista la situazione economica dell'azienda, questa rischia di essere l'ultima Mandrake :- ciao, Andrea Arrgh! Io son da ieri notte che tento di accedere ad uno dei server congestionati dalle richieste! Io dopo aver comprato il power pack della 9.0 attendo che mi rigenerino finanze per potermi iscriver al club o comprare un altro power pack! - -- Lei: Ottavio, ma se non mi amavi, perche' mi hai sposata?. Lui: Perche' e' bello avere a portata di mano qualcuno da odiare. -- Giuliano '98 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+gbXTTvJtVxCNwP4RAtbSAKCAyx5NSlr/i1PiOpg7eU0wPRlBtwCeOZ0O lh1KUBYzNBNUf7WKiF2KgZ0= =IByh -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [newbie-it] connessione con modem ADSL
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 11:36:40 +0100 Gaetano [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 5:55 PM wrote: Andrea Celli Intanto che telefona a Telecom, gli consiglierei di puntare un po' più in alto e di chiedere un modem ethernet (qualsiasi marca e modello). Si configurano ancor più facilmente, funzionano meglio e, se gli danno un Ericcson HM220dp, potrebbe ritrovarsi con un oggetto che funziona anche da router ;-) ciao, Andrea Ciao a tutti, scusate se mi intrometto, ma vorrei avere anche io un consiglio in merito. Vorrei farmi dare dalla Telecom (ho un abbonamento alice adsl) un modem Ethernet perchè ho deciso di passare del tutto ad Linux ed il modem che mi hanno dato quando mi sono abbonato, il Datacom SpeedWeb, non è compatibile con Linux e grazie al consiglio di Andrea mi farò dare un modem ethernet Ericsson (i modelli Ethernet che danno sono Datacom e Ericsson). Gli ethernet vanno tutti bene: non devi configurare il modem ma la scheda ethernet ;-) L'Ericcson HM220dp ha, in più, la possibilità di essere usato come router: ossia se chiedi pppoa come tipo di connessione e ti procuri un piccolo hub, gli puoi attaccare contemporaneamente più PC (http://3hm220dp4all.cjb.net). Con un modem non-router puoi usare la macchina Linux come router. Però dovrà essere la prima ad accendersi in modo da funzionare come server per gli altri. Poi, servirà una scheda ethernet aggiuntiva per ogni PC collegato. Adesso il consiglio che vi chiedo è: potete consigliarmi una scheda di rete a basso prezzo (magari 10 - 20 euro ) ovviamente compatibile con Linux! Questa secondo voi va bene? D-LINK DFE-538TX scheda rete 10/100 Mbit PCI wol Va benissimo qualsiasi scheda ethernet. La differenza tra una scheda e l'altra è il chipset (vanno dai validi ed economici Realtek, alle Ferrari del settore che sono i 3com) e qualche servizio aggiuntivo tipo wol(*) che non ti serve. Per gestire un modem ADSL basterebbe una base10 (il collegamento non arriva a 10Mbit/sec), qualunque base10/100 è ottima ed abbondante :-) Prendi tranquillamente quella che costa meno. Io su un Pc uso una Hamlet da 10 euro, sull'altro una PincoPallo pagata ancora di meno. Entrambe hanno un chipset RealTek. Una scheda più performante ti potrebbe servire se vuoi connettere i Pc tra di loro: migliore è la scheda, migliori saranno le prestazioni. WOL potrebbe incomincia ad avere senso per accendere l'altro pc senza alzarti dalla sedia ;-) (più seriamente se hai dei pc di una rete aziendale sparsi in un edificio). Con le 3com puoi realizzare dei cluster. Se devi scambiare qualche dato una volta al giorno, le RealTek andranno benissimo anche qui. ;-) ciao, Andrea (*)WakeOnLan=WoL serve per far accenere un pc tramite un impulso inviato via rete. Sulla scheda attaccata al modem mi sembra quanto meno inutile. Non escludo che ci si riesca, ma mi sembra piuttosto difficoltoso inviare da Internet un ordine di accensione ad un PC a cui non è associato un IP statico.
Re: [newbie-it] la 9.1 è out
Luigi Pinna wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alle 15:01, mercoledì 26 marzo 2003, Andrea Celli ha scritto: Questa mattina, quando sono uscito da casa, ho lanciato il download Stassera, se tutto va bene, l'installo. :-)) Però, cerchiamo di comprare anche i prodotti commerciali Altrimenti, vista la situazione economica dell'azienda, questa rischia di essere l'ultima Mandrake :- ciao, Andrea Arrgh! Io son da ieri notte che tento di accedere ad uno dei server congestionati dalle richieste! Io dopo aver comprato il power pack della 9.0 attendo che mi rigenerino finanze per potermi iscriver al club o comprare un altro power pack! - -- Lei: Ottavio, ma se non mi amavi, perche' mi hai sposata?. Lui: Perche' e' bello avere a portata di mano qualcuno da odiare. -- Giuliano '98 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+gbXTTvJtVxCNwP4RAtbSAKCAyx5NSlr/i1PiOpg7eU0wPRlBtwCeOZ0O lh1KUBYzNBNUf7WKiF2KgZ0= =IByh -END PGP SIGNATURE- io l'ho installata ierimattina sul laptop, tutto benissimo eccetto che l'acpi su cui stò ancora lavorando sul pc di casa avevo già una cooker aggiornata al 24 per cui praticamente mi ha ritoccato solo il nome della release posso assicuare tutti cmq ch eè davvero buona, nuovi font, nuovi temi, stabile ciao di nuovo francesco
Re: [newbie-it] la 9.1 è out
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 15:14:40 +0100 Luigi Pinna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Arrgh! Io son da ieri notte che tento di accedere ad uno dei server congestionati dalle richieste! in questo momento ftp.edisontel.it sembra abbastanza praticabile. non buttetevici su in troppi ;-) Nota curiosa, in perfetta coincidenza con l'uscita di ML-9.1, è uscita in edicola una nuova rivista che allega Mandrake-9.0 (credo solo il primo CD, a meno che abbiano messo gli altri software sullo spazio libero del terzo) Non potevano scegliere una data peggiore ciao, andrea
[newbie-it] impostare un ftp server
come posso modificare il file ftpaccess in maniera da settare automaticamente il chmod 775 su tutti i file che vengono uplodati sul server ftp grazie e scusate il disturbo
Re: [newbie-it] la 9.1 è out
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alle 17:53, mercoledì 26 marzo 2003, Andrea Celli ha scritto: in questo momento ftp.edisontel.it sembra abbastanza praticabile non buttetevici su in troppi ;-) Nota curiosa, in perfetta coincidenza con l'uscita di ML-9.1, è uscita in edicola una nuova rivista che allega Mandrake-9.0 (credo solo il primo CD, a meno che abbiano messo gli altri software sullo spazio libero del terzo) Non potevano scegliere una data peggiore ciao, andrea Magari non lo sapevano che era imminente... Io son riuscito a scaricarlo da un sito francese! - -- Cos'e' la bile? Non posso dirlo: e' un secreto. -- Da it.hobby.umorismo -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+gefCTvJtVxCNwP4RAoVyAKDd7M0i4FMKOXHLM3AOcOQuU793fgCeIcbZ sKxAMPewx8uLwIw+Ff7fcrw= =f5Df -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [newbie-it] la 9.1 è out
Alle 15:01, mercoledì 26 marzo 2003, Andrea Celli ha scritto: On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 18:29:29 +0100 francesco.melo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :))) happy linux Questa mattina, quando sono uscito da casa, ho lanciato il download. Stassera, se tutto va bene, l'installo. :-)) Però, cerchiamo di comprare anche i prodotti commerciali. Altrimenti, vista la situazione economica dell'azienda, questa rischia di essere l'ultima Mandrake :- ciao, Andrea La soluzione è semplice: acquistare una distro ogni tanto (al negozio oppure sul sito); oppure, più semplicemente, iscriversi al MandrakeClub... Nel fine settimana spero di scaricarla anche io... non vedo l'ora! :) Daniele -- «Il mondo si divide in 10 tipi di persone: quelle che conoscono la numerazione binaria, e quelle che non la conoscono.»
Re: [newbie-it] la 9.1 è out
Alle 15:44, mercoledì 26 marzo 2003, francesco.melo ha scritto: io l'ho installata ierimattina sul laptop, tutto benissimo eccetto che l'acpi su cui stò ancora lavorando Che vuol dire? che problemi hai con l'acpi sul laptop? Dopo avere faticato tanto per attivarlo con la 9.0 non voglio rischiare di dovere fare tutto da capo con la 9 Ciao
[newbie-it] Installazione rpm
Ciao a tutti (ed ennesima domanda): ho scaricato un rpm per Mandrake 9.0; nel fare una prova di installazione ho il seguente messaggio: error: failed dependencies: iptables is needed by firestarter-0.9.1-1mdk libXft.so.2 is needed by firestarter-0.9.1-1mdk libXrandr.so.2 is needed by firestarter-0.9.1-1mdk libcrypto.so.0.9.7 is needed by firestarter-0.9.1-1mdk libfontconfig.so.1 is needed by firestarter-0.9.1-1mdk libssl.so.0.9.7 is needed by firestarter-0.9.1-1mdk RESULT=1 ovviamente ho capito che mi manca qualche cosa ma: dove trovo gli oggetti che mancano ? come li installo dopo ? Grazie 1000 __ Yahoo! Cellulari: loghi, suonerie, picture message per il tuo telefonino http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://it.mobile.yahoo.com/index2002.html
Re: [newbie-it] Installazione rpm
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alle 21:47, mercoledì 26 marzo 2003, Alberto Panigada ha scritto: ho scaricato un rpm per Mandrake 9.0; nel fare una prova di installazione ho il seguente messaggio: error: failed dependencies: .. ovviamente ho capito che mi manca qualche cosa ma: dove trovo gli oggetti che mancano ? come li installo dopo ? installa il pacchetto rpm con urpmi sarà lui a chiederti di inserire i cd di installazione per aggiornare il sistema con i pacchetti mancanti, nel caso ti manchi ancora qualcosa, rpmfind o google .. ;) Grazie 1000 - -- bye miKe - -- Slackware 8.1 GNU/Linux 2.4.20 @ hp Xe3 R.U.#219755 -- S.R.U.#705 -- R.M.#110932 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE+gjZnF/9fksDJ4y0RAm1/AJ0S9uQhYmLQ1JdtIH41hsko7/aDgQCfeWCT yuQZcY2v1vgL5aNC56nrm9o= =BYfP -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [newbie-it] la 9.1 è out
Emiliano La Licata wrote: Alle 15:44, mercoledì 26 marzo 2003, francesco.melo ha scritto: io l'ho installata ierimattina sul laptop, tutto benissimo eccetto che l'acpi su cui stò ancora lavorando Che vuol dire? che problemi hai con l'acpi sul laptop? Dopo avere faticato tanto per attivarlo con la 9.0 non voglio rischiare di dovere fare tutto da capo con la 9 Ciao che acpi non mi parte, non l'ha installato di default l'ho aggiunto ma non parte rilascia un errore nel /proc/acpi/event dice che non trova il file o la directory non ho avuto molto tempo ma ti sarei grato se mi potessi raccontare la tua faticata :) ciao francesco
[newbie-it] installazione su Mac
ciao a tutti, mi sono appena iscritto e spero di utilizzare il formato di testo giusto. Vorrei installare Linux Mandrake sul mio computer Macintosch con processore G3 400 e 512 MB di ram fisica. Il problema è che ho scaricato (credo) la versione ) 9.1 che, quando vado ad installare, dopo le prime schermate nere di boot, mi presenta una grafica talmente poco definita e confusa da rendere impossibile il proseguimento dell'installazione. Sospetto di avere scaricato la versione sbagliata. Non credo sia un problema di macchina perché si comporta così tentando l'installazione anche su un power mac G4 400. Non sono assolutamente pratico di Linux e non so che fare. Qualcuno potrebbe aiutarmi? Grazie Paolo
[newbie-it] Per installare MDK 9.1
Per installare MDK 9.1 è sufficiente scaricare questi file http://www.mandrakelinux.com/it/ftp.php3#586 oppure servono anche le immagini ISO? http://www.mandrakelinux.com/it/ftp.php3#iso In tal caso, a cosa servono queste immagini? Una volta scaricati i file, è possibili masterizzarli su Cd Rom ed usare il Cd Rom allo stesso modo di quelli allegati alle riviste, quindi procedere all'installazione settando il boot da Cd Rom? Grazie. __ Yahoo! Cellulari: loghi, suonerie, picture message per il tuo telefonino http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://it.mobile.yahoo.com/index2002.html
Re: [newbie] lilo troubles (RH-related)
Thanks, this is very insteresting. I had assumed that multi-boot NT/linux could be done ony from lilo, now I learn that it can be done with the NT loader. Just one question on the dd command below: the first parameter in reality is if=/boot, right? raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raffaele, you have to perform these steps: - dd if0/boot of=linux.bin bs=512 count=1 - copy linux.bin on the root partition of your XP/NT/2k system - update your boot.ini appending the following line: c:\Linux.bin=Linux Note that at that stage (while in the boot loader) NT boot partition is C regardless on how how windows names it. rebboot and you'll have the nt bootloader booting both O.S. Hope this helps. Ciao Leonardo. --- Raffaele Belardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Leonardo, we installed lilo on the first sector of the /boot partition, as reccomended by the RH help for NT-linux coexistence on the same disk (in case of W95/98-linux coexistance it reccomended to put lilo in MBR instead), but I admit I did not understand why. What's this difference between W2K and W98m in terms of bootloader? raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raffaele, did you install lilo on your root / partition or on your master partition? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Yahoo! Cellulari: loghi, suonerie, picture message per il tuo telefonino http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://it.mobile.yahoo.com/index2002.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] lilo troubles (RH-related)
Raffaele, sorry it was a mistake, the command is dd if=boot device* bs=512 count=1 of=linux.bin (*ie. /dev/xxx). I do have that configuration and it works fine. Actually you don't ever need lilo (unless you load initrd or are feeding kernel parameters).If this is your case just uninstall lilo (lilo -u) and go through the steps I wrote you. Ciao. Leonardo. --- Raffaele Belardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Thanks, this is very insteresting. I had assumed that multi-boot NT/linux could be done ony from lilo, now I learn that it can be done with the NT loader. Just one question on the dd command below: the first parameter in reality is if=/boot, right? raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raffaele, you have to perform these steps: - dd if0/boot of=linux.bin bs=512 count=1 - copy linux.bin on the root partition of your XP/NT/2k system - update your boot.ini appending the following line: c:\Linux.bin=Linux Note that at that stage (while in the boot loader) NT boot partition is C regardless on how how windows names it. rebboot and you'll have the nt bootloader booting both O.S. Hope this helps. Ciao Leonardo. --- Raffaele Belardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: Leonardo, we installed lilo on the first sector of the /boot partition, as reccomended by the RH help for NT-linux coexistence on the same disk (in case of W95/98-linux coexistance it reccomended to put lilo in MBR instead), but I admit I did not understand why. What's this difference between W2K and W98m in terms of bootloader? raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Raffaele, did you install lilo on your root / partition or on your master partition? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Yahoo! Cellulari: loghi, suonerie, picture message per il tuo telefonino http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://it.mobile.yahoo.com/index2002.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Yahoo! Cellulari: loghi, suonerie, picture message per il tuo telefonino http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://it.mobile.yahoo.com/index2002.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Creating CD's from ISO images.
On Tuesday 25 Mar 2003 7:42 pm, Miark wrote: On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 13:02:17 -0600 I have never burned a coaster in Linux, and my discs have never been rejected in other drives. And even if it happens, so what? Blank media is so inexpenive that it costs almost nothing to burn another one. I think the problem is that we never 'verify' burns. I have once accidentally burned at too high a speed. It appeared to finish correctly, but when I wanted to use one of the install apps on it I failed. There was no indication, but it must have been faulty. It wasn't critical for me, because it was only a downloaded antivirus app update, and was easily downloaded again, but if it had been critical data I would have been bd. I agree with the strategy of keeping burns well below 'maximum' speed. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] broken fonts display
Jozef Riha wrote: sometimes when i scroll with PgUp/Dn often fonts in OpenOffice get broken (see the attachment). is it known OOo bug or is there an error in configuration (matrox g550 with manufacturer's driver). I have the same problem with OO. Looks like an X thing - clicking around gets rid of it. Sir Robin -- The raisins may be the best part of a cake, but that doesn't mean that a bag of raisins is better than a cake. - Wittgenstein Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Creating CD's from ISO images.
Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 25 Mar 2003 7:42 pm, Miark wrote: On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 13:02:17 -0600 I have never burned a coaster in Linux, and my discs have never been rejected in other drives. And even if it happens, so what? Blank media is so inexpenive that it costs almost nothing to burn another one. I think the problem is that we never 'verify' burns. I have once accidentally burned at too high a speed. It appeared to finish correctly, but when I wanted to use one of the install apps on it I failed. There was no indication, but it must have been faulty. It wasn't critical for me, because it was only a downloaded antivirus app update, and was easily downloaded again, but if it had been critical data I would have been bd. I agree with the strategy of keeping burns well below 'maximum' speed. Anne ]# mount /mnt/cdrom ]# ls /mnt/cdrom Boot/ Mandrake/ ]# md5sum /dev/scd0 long wait md5sum: /dev/scd0: Input/output error ]# So why did it fail ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ML9.1rc3 Install
On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 00:16, Lee wrote: I attempted to upgrade 8.2 to 9.1rc3 (I know, everyone said don't do it) but that's just me. Then I booted and stalled on kernel panic. When I rebooted, everything I had done over the past 2 years was there, but better. I am totally amazed. Question is, What did I do right? Why was I not stuck putting mail addresses and everything else back together again? I wonder if leaving the home directory alone is some kind of a default thingy that's in 9.1. You really should consider some sort of a backup scheme,though. You may not be so lucky next time. -Glenn- -- The advantage of exercising every day is that you die healthier. Registered Linux User No. 306834 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] startx/Xtart?
- Original Message - From: Terry Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] startx/Xtart? Angus, They're both scripts..startx is at /usr/X11R6/bin and Xtart at /usr.bin.. so you can view them with 'less' or any editor. Although they both do the same job the code is somewhat different. Xtart (written by Civileme) seems pretty straightforward and will start X (xinit) according to the session scripts stored in wmsession.d. startx reads a number of initialization files including xinitrc before invoking xinit. In any case follow the code through to see how they differ with respect to starting up kde. Terry Smith ** Thanks for the reply Terry, and the info. I note another thing also, when staring KDE with Xtart, ~/.xsession-errors isn't written to. I will try to compare the two scripts in question, and see whether I can learn something ;-) Best regards to you. --Angus Without friends, the world is but a wilderness. -- Francis Bacon *** *Reg. Linux User #278931* *** *Power by Mandrake Linux 9.0* *** -- http://www.operamail.com Get OperaMail Premium today - USD 29.99/year Powered by Outblaze Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] ML9.1rc3 Install
Lee, As it says it is an upgrade and not an install. It will upgrade the software but not mess with your settings (in real life this is not always the case though). Your /home should be left intact. You can also install and leave the /home intact, if you create the users in the same order you will keep your info also (keeping the same uid and gid). Backup to be sure but I always install and keep my home. Been doing it religiously with the 9.1 betas and rc's. Tony. -Original Message- From: Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 5:16 AM To: Newbie Subject: [newbie] ML9.1rc3 Install Okay, I'm not the brightest lightbulb in the pack, but I thought I knew the difference between an install and an upgrade. I attempted to upgrade 8.2 to 9.1rc3 (I know, everyone said don't do it) but that's just me. Then I booted and stalled on kernel panic. Since I had no idea what to do next I rebooted on the CD and chose install, thinking I could look forward to a couple of months of rebuilding all of my 'stuff'. When I rebooted, everything I had done over the past 2 years was there, but better. I am totally amazed. Question is, What did I do right? Why was I not stuck putting mail addresses and everything else back together again? Lee -- Registered Linux user #223705 Give me ambiguity or give me something else. -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Why ISO? was: 9.1 final has been released
On Tuesday 25 March 2003 11:51 pm, Joeb wrote: Eric, it is NOT the ISO image that allows booting, it is that included in the ISO is a boot from floppy device. ISO just stands for the International Standards Organization and 9660 is implied as the particular standard, and has NOTHING to do with booting. While the ISO images do allow you to boot from the CD (assuming your computer allows it), the purpose of the ISO images is to keep from having to download all the individual files to some directory somewhere and then installing across a network or worse yet, from installing from the download site across the internet! Basically, the ISO images are direct copies of the CDs so you can duplicate the original. Once the CDs are burned, the ISO images are no longer needed. Most of the problems with burning the ISO images were with the 9.0 images that used 700MB CDs (80 minute). Older CD burners couldn't write them. Mandrake 9.1 went back to the 650MB images because of this (who says they don't listen to users). Joeb On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 20:18:27 -0800 eric huff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am very new to linux, and am trying to figure out why ISO images are needed. I searched around, but too many hits... Is the purpose of using an ISO image simply that you can boot from the CD and have it reformat the drive? Shouldn't there be a way to have a boot cd that would then use info from another cd to install? The reason i ask is that i have seen people having issues burning the cd properly from an ISO image... thanks for any insight, huff -- Linux counter number 167806 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] vnc startup
Greg Meyer wrote: On Tuesday 25 March 2003 10:47 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I have a really good question! Why am I ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), receiving all of your E-mails, since early this morning? Did someone steal my account? Or is it an unwelcomed virus attack? :) What did you expect to happen when you joined the list? Well presumably he didn't intentionally join the list, or he wouldn't be complaining. The fact that he can write grammatical sentences implied that his IQ is not so low that he would subscribe to a mailing list then act surprised when he gets the mail. Maybe someone joined using his address? OTOH, maybe it's a troll, so I'll shut up. Sir Robin -- The raisins may be the best part of a cake, but that doesn't mean that a bag of raisins is better than a cake. - Wittgenstein Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] 9.1 final has been released
Hey, I have nothing to complain about. I had both ISO's inside of 2.5 hours. I was averaging almost 400 Kbps from carroll.cac.psu.edu. Of course, I live within 50 miles of the Penn State campus. Chad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of stormjumper Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 12:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] 9.1 final has been released wow. thanks to Anders Linds, bob, and David E Fox for all the ftp sources. never expected to recieve such helpful replies for an offhand remark on how slow my download was. anyway, now dl'ing at 10-15kb/s. nothing to rave about, but compare to the original 1-2kb/s. :) thank - Original Message - From: David E. Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 11:37 Subject: Re: [newbie] 9.1 final has been released This is a multi-part message in MIME format... =_1048616959-1281-2324 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit and every mirror i know is absolutely bombed out. i'm getting trickles of 1-2kb/s. lol, i wonder if there're any internet traffic monitors out there that can tell me if the release of mandrake 9.1 caused any great internet disruption. :) Nah...ftp.sunet.se gives me 40 kb/s approx I was getting rather good performance last week (and before) from ftp.nluug.nl. I'm in California BTW, but was pulling 150kb/s on my DSL line. Who knows what it might be now that final is out... /Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] broken fonts display
* Jozef Riha [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030326 06:08]: sometimes when i scroll with PgUp/Dn often fonts in OpenOffice get broken (see the attachment). is it known OOo bug or is there an error in configuration (matrox g550 with manufacturer's driver). Yeah, this sort of thing happens all the time. I have been assuming it is an artifact ... where the graphic display gets itself confused about what is actually on the screen, and it happens occasionally with almost any graphics program. However, it happens much too often with OOo. What I tell my students to do to fix it is to minimize the OOo window and then immediately restore it. Anything that re-draws the screen gets rid of the artifacts. Some window managers have a shade button that works quite nicely for this because you don't have to move far with your mouse. But it would be nice if OOo or X or whatever became a little more robust in this area. -- Jan Wilson, SysAdmin _/*]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Corozal Junior College | |:' corozal.com corozal.bz Corozal Town, Belize | /' chetumal.com linux.bz Reg. Linux user #151611 |_/ Network, PHP, Perl, HTML Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] vnc startup
On Wednesday 26 Mar 2003 12:35 pm, robin wrote: Greg Meyer wrote: On Tuesday 25 March 2003 10:47 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I have a really good question! Why am I ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), receiving all of your E-mails, since early this morning? Did someone steal my account? Or is it an unwelcomed virus attack? :) What did you expect to happen when you joined the list? Well presumably he didn't intentionally join the list, or he wouldn't be complaining. The fact that he can write grammatical sentences implied that his IQ is not so low that he would subscribe to a mailing list then act surprised when he gets the mail. Maybe someone joined using his address? OTOH, maybe it's a troll, so I'll shut up. Also, if he's never been on a list before, he may have expected it to be more like usenet, where he can browse the messages and just download the ones he wants to keep. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] where has help gone from 9.1?
In my fresh installation of mdk9.1, when I press the help button in the toolbar, kde help appears instead of mdk documentation (that was there in 9.0). Also, if I press the 'documentation' (or so) button in the 'welcome' window, I just get an error message about file not found (something like /usr/share/doc/mandrake/Starter/index.html). What is the problem? (This is a fresh installation, I suppose you won't have this problem if you upgraded.) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Creating CD's from ISO images.
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 10:30:11AM +, John Richard Smith wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: On Tuesday 25 Mar 2003 7:42 pm, Miark wrote: On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 13:02:17 -0600 I have never burned a coaster in Linux, and my discs have never been rejected in other drives. And even if it happens, so what? Blank media is so inexpenive that it costs almost nothing to burn another one. I think the problem is that we never 'verify' burns. I have once accidentally burned at too high a speed. It appeared to finish correctly, but when I wanted to use one of the install apps on it I failed. There was no indication, but it must have been faulty. It wasn't critical for me, because it was only a downloaded antivirus app update, and was easily downloaded again, but if it had been critical data I would have been bd. I agree with the strategy of keeping burns well below 'maximum' speed. Anne ]# mount /mnt/cdrom ]# ls /mnt/cdrom Boot/ Mandrake/ ]# md5sum /dev/scd0 long wait md5sum: /dev/scd0: Input/output error ]# So why did it fail ? John I had the same error last night. I ran md5sum /dev/cdrom and the drive powered up and spun for a while and then produced the error. After burning another disc I left it in the burner and tried md5sum /dev/scd0 and the computer froze. Had to do a hard reboot :( . Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] can't eject cd after burning
On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 11:11:30AM -0600, Tom Brinkman wrote: On Friday March 21 2003 08:33 am, Richard Urwin wrote: $ eject /dev/scd0# Came out, went back in again $ sudo umount -l /mnt/cdrom2 Password: $ eject /dev/scd0# Came out, stayed out Here again, I don't think it was the 'umount' that did the trick. Konqueror's hold on the device had probly expired by then. IME, even tho you had already closed Konqueror, it still takes some time to release. A CDr can't be mounted, since you can only mount filesystems. There ain't one on blank CDr's (or images like audio CD's) ;) After you burned it, and then checked with a file manager, supermount did mount it, and it was probly Konq that took it's sweet damn time lettin it go. While I grant that that sequence took thirty seconds or so, and things may have changed between the two ejects, that was a lot less time than I took fiddling with it last night. I don't know about GUI's, but all my CL solutions (biso, bacd, bdcd) contain 'eject'. ie, alias bdcd='cdrecord -v -eject speed=4 dev=0,0,0 -data' So the CDr is immediately ejected right after fixating is finished. Then to check the CD, I push the drawer back in and bring it up in a terminal and do a 'ls' on it, or use a file manager like Konqueror. Then I either wait a while, or if I'm impatient, use 'eject /dev/scd0' to retrieve it. 'man eject' says If the device is currently mounted, it is unmounted before ejecting. Maybe in your case it's havin trouble over riding Konq's hold? Doesn't happen to me, I suspect it could be permissions. What's your msec level? I run at msec 2 just so my system doesn't argue with me about what I wanna do ; To tell the truth, 'bout the only time my burner won't give up a CD is after doin 'md5sum /dev/scd0' to check the integrity of burned iso's. 'eject' always gets it for me tho ;) An update on the non-ejecting business. I don't have supermount enabled, so that can't be it. The other suggestions have not worked, either. BUT, after burning a few more CDs, it seems that I only have this problem when I use -overburn. So until I can eject after overburning, that's my story and I'm sticking to it! Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] ISO filenames
I don't know if I am looking for the right filenames. What are these clic ph1 snap 9 something or other? Would someone know the correct isos to download for 9.1? Thank you so much. Ibly __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Cdrecord and my pc are hanging when I'm trying to burn a cd.
Hello, My cdwriter doesn't do what I asked him to do. Most of the time, he starts writing, and after a 20 Mb, he stops. And, the funny part is that de leds of capslock and scrollock starts going on/off all the time. For the rest, my machine crashed. I couldn't do anything any more. The command that I use is cdrecord speed=1 dev=0,3,0 -isosize -data cdimage.raw I also tried it without de isosize flag, but it didn't work either. I must be honest, it worked one time. But that's it. Can you help me Kind regards Jan Verstuyft When I run this command cdrecord -v -dummy speed=1 dev=0,3,0 -isosize -data cdimage.raw, he gaves me the following output Cdrecord 1.11a32 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schillin g TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM scsidev: '0,3,0' scsibus: 0 target: 3 lun: 0 Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24 Using libscg version 'schily-0.6' atapi: 1 Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 1 Vendor_info: 'HP ' Identifikation : 'CD-Writer+ 7200 ' Revision : '3.01' Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW. Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : SWABAUDIO Supported modes: TAO PACKET RAW/R16 Drive buf size : 786432 = 768 KB FIFO size : 4194304 = 4096 KB Track 01: data 491 MB Total size: 564 MB (55:58.53) = 251890 sectors Lout start: 565 MB (56:00/40) = 251890 sectors Current Secsize: 2048 ATIP start of lead in: -11769 (97:25/06) ATIP start of lead out: 359775 (79:59/00) Disk type:Short strategy type (Phthalocyanine or similar) Manuf. index: 64 Manufacturer: MPO Blocks total: 359775 Blocks current: 359775 Blocks remaining: 107885 Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 2 in dummy TAO mode for single session. Last chance to quit, starting dummy write in 0 seconds. Operation starts. Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready. Starting new track at sector: 0 Track 01: 19 of 491 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf 92%] 2.1x. And at this moment, he starts blinking again, like I described above. Can you help me Kind regards Jan Verstuyft Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Mandrake 9.0 on M787CL+ mainboard
I am facing problems in installing Mandrake 9.0 (I don't have 9.1) on a PCChips M787CL+ mainboard [http://www.pcchips.com.tw/M787cl+v30.html ] with 256 MB RAM, and 40 GB IDE harddisk. The following error appears: error in exec of stage2 :-( trying to execute '/usr/bin/runinstall2' from the installation volume, the following fatal error occurred FATA ERROR IN STAGE1: Not a directory The CDs and the ISO images are fine (MD5 checked). Moreover Knoppix 3.1 boots without any problem, hence no problem with the hardware as such. A Google search revealed that a similar problem was reported for VIA Epia 700 C3 mainboard at http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/cooker/2002-09/msg05544.php I tried to follow some of the tips, but without any success :( Has anyone on this forum tried installing Mandrake 9.0 on M787CL+ mainboard? Is there any method through which 9.0 may be installed? Irfan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ISO filenames
What are these clic ph1 snap 9 something or other? Googling CLIC Linux led me here: http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/53/27941.html Would someone know the correct isos to download for 9.1? I believe it's just the 3 obvious CD1,2,3 files plus the checksum file that refers to these files. If it's not obvious, just open up the small checksm files and see which one refers to the CD* files.. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Still unable to enjoy Mandrake 9.0 on my pure-Linux machine
Still no joy. The CDROM still takes ages to mount. It almost as if something is tying up a bunch of low-level system stuff until it expires on a time-out. This is really interfering with using Mandrake 9.0. I might blame it on slow hardware (a 100MHz Pentium), except no such delays occur with SuSE Linux running on the same hardware (dual boot) During boot, it takes ninety seconds to start up devFS. Is this normal? In case the trouble was with devFS (one of the differences between Mandrake and the SuSE system I have no trouble with), I tries doing without devFS by changing lilo.conf and rerunning lilo. Except that it didn try to start up d devFS, no difference. It still took two minutes and twenty-seven seconds to mount a CD. So devFS seems not to be the problem. Subsequent operations from the CD are slow too: 29 seconds to ls a directory, 14 seconds fo unmount the CD. It takes over two minutes to start Mandrake Command Centre. Most of the time it appears to be doing nothing. It takes a minute to get to the place where I can turn system services on and off. Under the curcumstances, comleting the installation of Mandrakd 9.0 is really hopeless. I did this in the hope of answering Miark question: On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 02:31:40PM -0500, Miark wrote: Is autofs running? If so, try turning it off with drakxservices. Miark Is drakxservices the thing you get to turn services on and off from the MCC? If so, autofs was not even listed as something to turn on or off. It really seems as though the system is locking up for times varying from thirty+seconds to over a minute now and then. Mounting a CD does eventually work (today I mounted an old OS/2 shareware CD flawlessly, except that it took four minutes). Now and then it does a read from the CD (as evidenced by the drive light), with *huge* time delays. I'm used to it doing a few reads in less than+a second on the old SuSE system wtill running on the same hardware (dual boot, SuSE and Mandrake) and returning immediately afteward with a successful mount. So I wonder what could cause the delays. I sat and watched in boot Mandrake 9.0+today. The first noticeable delay was a minute and a half or so starting devFS+demon. Id announces that it is starting the devFS demon, and about 90 seconds +later (times without a clock) it announces success. The only other delays during boot are understandable timeouts:waiting for adsl +to come up (the modem was off) and waiting to synchronize the clock (again, no +net). Is ninety-seconds a normal time to take to start up devFS? Could startup delay with devFS be related to the slow CD mount problem? Is it possible to reconfigure to skip devFS somehow (I suspect not, but I'll ask+anyway.) What does devFS do, anyway? -- hendrik Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ISO filenames
On Wednesday 26 March 2003 18:37, Ibly Piblo wrote: I don't know if I am looking for the right filenames. What are these clic ph1 snap 9 something or other? Would someone know the correct isos to download for 9.1? Thank you so much. Ibly ftp://carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/iso has Mandrake91-cd1-inst.i586.iso and the other iso's. HTH, -Frans Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] MCC suddenly fails/large file problem again
Hi all, I have a cascade of problems. A while ago I had a problem that tar could not create files 100megs. Someone handed me a solution by changing something in some config file. Had I only listened. I now cannot get the mdk 9.1 ISO's since they are100megs. Even root does not get this done. I tried to find the setting, to no avail. Now I tried mcc, and instead of loading as usual, this happens: [EMAIL PROTECTED] sysconfig]# mcc Can't load '/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/i386-linux/auto/Gtk/Gdk/ImlibImage/ImlibIma ge.so' for module Gtk::Gdk::ImlibImage: /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/i386-linux/auto/Gtk/Gdk/ImlibImage/ImlibImag e.so: undefined symbol: pgtk_did_we_init_gtk at /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i386-linux/DynaLoader.pm line 206. at /usr/lib/libDrakX/my_gtk.pm line 17 Compilation failed in require at /usr/lib/libDrakX/my_gtk.pm line 17. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/libDrakX/my_gtk.pm line 17. Compilation failed in require at /usr/X11R6/bin/drakconf.real line 35. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/X11R6/bin/drakconf.real line 35. What is going wrong here??? I do not recall messing with any perl functions/programs, as I don't speak perl. Paul -- You can get everything in life you want, if you will help enough other people get what they want. http://nlpagan.net - Linux by Mandrake - Sylpheed by Hiro Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] large file problem solved (I think)
In reply to Paul's mail, d.d. Wed, 26 Mar 2003 21:15:00 +0100: A while ago I had a problem that tar could not create files 100megs. Someone handed me a solution by changing something in some config file. Had I only listened. I now cannot get the mdk 9.1 ISO's since they are100megs. Even root does not get this done. I found /etc/security/limits.conf. At least something I do right. I changed the last entry from 10 to 90. I guess that is enough. Do I need to log in again, or does this 'stick' right away? Paul -- You can get everything in life you want, if you will help enough other people get what they want. http://nlpagan.net - Linux by Mandrake - Sylpheed by Hiro Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Still unable to enjoy Mandrake 9.0 on my pure-Linuxmachine
Hendrik Boom wrote: During boot, it takes ninety seconds to start up devFS. Is this normal? I have a slightly faster system (dual Pentium 233 MMX) and yes, DevFS takes forever during boot. Don't know why. I've been thinking of disabling it, but I haven't figured out what it does yet. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ISO filenames
Frans Ketelaars wrote: On Wednesday 26 March 2003 18:37, Ibly Piblo wrote: I don't know if I am looking for the right filenames. What are these clic ph1 snap 9 something or other? Would someone know the correct isos to download for 9.1? Thank you so much. Ibly ftp://carroll.cac.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/iso has Mandrake91-cd1-inst.i586.iso and the other iso's. Since we've established that rc3 really is 9.1, would it make any difference if, say, the first CD is rc3 and the others are official 9.1? Sir Robin -- The raisins may be the best part of a cake, but that doesn't mean that a bag of raisins is better than a cake. - Wittgenstein Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] dd from cd to iso
Sounds like a bad CD to me. I'd try re-burning the CD. Miark On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 16:02:04 - Tony S. Sykes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A bit more info. If I hit the eject button on the cdrom it stops it and it seems to have worked okay. I have done this twice and both times it had the same records in's and out's on the output. I have tried it on my cdburner /dev/scd1 and it fail's, 3 times now a few hundred records short of the cdrom with an input/output error in the same place. Tony. -Original Message- From: Tony S. Sykes Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 3:37 PM To: Newbie (E-mail) Subject: [newbie] dd from cd to iso Hi all, I am doing a dd if=/dev/hdb of=cd2.iso bs=2048 (it is a cd of 9.1 cd2) and always near the end it just seems to hang. The cd and hd just seem to be hammering themselves. The filesystem has got over 2gb of space so that is not a problem. Anywhere else to look. Using MDK 9.0. Thanks, Tony. -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ISO filenames
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 23:45:29 +0200 robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since we've established that rc3 really is 9.1, would it make any difference if, say, the first CD is rc3 and the others are official 9.1? No difference. Charles -- You don't have to know how the computer works, just how to work the computer. - Mandrake Linux 9.1 on PurpleDragon Kernel- 2.4.21-0.13mdk - pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [newbie] Still unable to enjoy Mandrake 9.0 on my pure-Linux machine
what does cat /etc/hosts say? what does cat /etc/resolv.conf say is DNS runnig? named? ypserv? Wednesday 26 March 2003 02:10 pm, Hendrik Boom wrote: Still no joy. The CDROM still takes ages to mount. It almost as if something is tying up a bunch of low-level system stuff until it expires on a time-out. This is really interfering with using Mandrake 9.0. I might blame it on slow hardware (a 100MHz Pentium), except no such delays occur with SuSE Linux running on the same hardware (dual boot) During boot, it takes ninety seconds to start up devFS. Is this normal? In case the trouble was with devFS (one of the differences between Mandrake and the SuSE system I have no trouble with), I tries doing without devFS by changing lilo.conf and rerunning lilo. Except that it didn try to start up d devFS, no difference. It still took two minutes and twenty-seven seconds to mount a CD. So devFS seems not to be the problem. Subsequent operations from the CD are slow too: 29 seconds to ls a directory, 14 seconds fo unmount the CD. It takes over two minutes to start Mandrake Command Centre. Most of the time it appears to be doing nothing. It takes a minute to get to the place where I can turn system services on and off. Under the curcumstances, comleting the installation of Mandrakd 9.0 is really hopeless. I did this in the hope of answering Miark question: On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 02:31:40PM -0500, Miark wrote: Is autofs running? If so, try turning it off with drakxservices. Miark Is drakxservices the thing you get to turn services on and off from the MCC? If so, autofs was not even listed as something to turn on or off. It really seems as though the system is locking up for times varying from thirty+seconds to over a minute now and then. Mounting a CD does eventually work (today I mounted an old OS/2 shareware CD flawlessly, except that it took four minutes). Now and then it does a read from the CD (as evidenced by the drive light), with *huge* time delays. I'm used to it doing a few reads in less than+a second on the old SuSE system wtill running on the same hardware (dual boot, SuSE and Mandrake) and returning immediately afteward with a successful mount. So I wonder what could cause the delays. I sat and watched in boot Mandrake 9.0+today. The first noticeable delay was a minute and a half or so starting devFS+demon. Id announces that it is starting the devFS demon, and about 90 seconds +later (times without a clock) it announces success. The only other delays during boot are understandable timeouts:waiting for adsl +to come up (the modem was off) and waiting to synchronize the clock (again, no +net). Is ninety-seconds a normal time to take to start up devFS? Could startup delay with devFS be related to the slow CD mount problem? Is it possible to reconfigure to skip devFS somehow (I suspect not, but I'll ask+anyway.) What does devFS do, anyway? -- hendrik -- Linux counter number 167806 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Nice 9.1 packaging
I have to say, the 9.1's packaging is much better looking than 9.0. Hopefully that compels a few more Wal-Mart shoppers etc. to pick it up and take a good look. http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/9.1/features/ Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Still unable to enjoy Mandrake 9.0 on my pure-Linux machine
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 04:35:16PM -0500, Guy Rouillier wrote: Hendrik Boom wrote: During boot, it takes ninety seconds to start up devFS. Is this normal? I have a slightly faster system (dual Pentium 233 MMX) and yes, DevFS takes forever during boot. Don't know why. I've been thinking of disabling it, but I haven't figured out what it does yet. My system runs about as badly with and without DefFS. It seems to be a new way of organising device files, with symbolic links for retrocompatibility. It is supposed to really shine for USB devices. I have no such devices. It's really easy to remove if you use lilo. Just remove the line that refers to it. Only, just to be sure you don't lose everything, copy the lilo paragraph you use and make the change in the copy. That way you will have a boot-time choice, and can choose the old scheme if the new one fails. Doing thie sped up the boot process a little, but had no effect on my real problems. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Help please. Thank you.
Dear Sir / Madam. I'm using Mandrake-Linux PowerPack 9.0, with kernel 2.4.19-16mdk. It is very buggy, slow, etc. A week after a fresh installation, it generates about 50,000 files with zero bytes. I use it on a PI-233 with 114 Mb memory. I have downloaded Patch-2.4.20.bz2 at 4Mb. I have expanded that file to 22Mb. The documentation I read so far does not tell me what to do next. Make xconfig, make config or make menuconfig do not work. Thank you for your help. Richard Thibaudeau Package S/N PWP90MM-322CBA-ENG-HPCK-E9K9 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] where has help gone from 9.1?
On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 00:08, p s wrote: In my fresh installation of mdk9.1, when I press the help button in the toolbar, kde help appears instead of mdk documentation (that was there in 9.0). Also, if I press the 'documentation' (or so) button in the 'welcome' window, I just get an error message about file not found (something like /usr/share/doc/mandrake/Starter/index.html). What is the problem? (This is a fresh installation, I suppose you won't have this problem if you upgraded.) Have you checked and verified the paths? The files? It could be that something was left out in the installation - so you might even want to go back through with the Software Manager and double-check everything - but that's IMHO - I'm running 9.1rc2, and mine works like a champ - NOT that I really ever read help files or manuals or documentation - that's what the list is for...(g) -- Thu Mar 27 09:05:00 EST 2003 09:05:00 up 5 days, 19:52, 3 users, load average: 1.06, 1.30, 1.26 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * MDK 9.1 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting machine no:194239 * RH 7.3 * Sales - Service - Support - Tutor -- ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** It is against the grain of modern education to teach children to program. What fun is there in making plans, acquiring discipline in organizing thoughts, devoting attention to detail, and learning to be self-critical? -- Alan Perlis Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Help please. Thank you.
Richard, I am a very happy Mandrake user and though 9.0 had its problems (especially eg supermount etc.), I never had the problems you describe. 9.1 has now been released, I suggest you upgrade/reinstall (download available on all the major mirrors) immediately. See if this fixes your problems and if not then we will require more information to be able to asist in more depth. Regards, Jason Greenwood Richard B. Thibaudeau wrote: Dear Sir / Madam. I'm using Mandrake-Linux PowerPack 9.0, with kernel 2.4.19-16mdk. It is very buggy, slow, etc. A week after a fresh installation, it generates about 50,000 files with zero bytes. I use it on a PI-233 with 114 Mb memory. I have downloaded Patch-2.4.20.bz2 at 4Mb. I have expanded that file to 22Mb. The documentation I read so far does not tell me what to do next. Make xconfig, make config or make menuconfig do not work. Thank you for your help. Richard Thibaudeau Package S/N PWP90MM-322CBA-ENG-HPCK-E9K9 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Help please. Thank you.
On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 04:38, Richard B. Thibaudeau wrote: Dear Sir / Madam. I'm using Mandrake-Linux PowerPack 9.0, with kernel 2.4.19-16mdk. It is very buggy, slow, etc. A week after a fresh installation, it generates about 50,000 files with zero bytes. I use it on a PI-233 with 114 Mb memory. I have downloaded Patch-2.4.20.bz2 at 4Mb. I have expanded that file to 22Mb. The documentation I read so far does not tell me what to do next. Make xconfig, make config or make menuconfig do not work. Thank you for your help. Richard Thibaudeau G'day Richard, Question - were you directed to download the patch for any particular reason? Why I ask is that patching and recompiling the kernel ain't for the feint of heart, mate - unless you're ready and willing to cause yourself a few headaches here and there. Patching the kernel doesn't necessarily mean that you're going to optimise your system or get better performance out of it - truly. If you're feeling that system speed is lagging and strange things are happening, you might want to start out with looking at the system overall and seeing where and what you can tweak and tune in order to get rid of those zero byte files (are they core dumps perchance?) as well as streamlining some things and tweaking your hard drive settings to get more bang for your buck... -- Thu Mar 27 09:10:00 EST 2003 09:10:00 up 5 days, 19:57, 3 users, load average: 1.04, 1.15, 1.20 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * MDK 9.1 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting machine no:194239 * RH 7.3 * Sales - Service - Support - Tutor -- ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** The man who understands one woman is qualified to understand pretty well everything. -- Yeats Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 on M787CL+ mainboard
On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 06:02, Irfan Khan wrote: I am facing problems in installing Mandrake 9.0 (I don't have 9.1) on a PCChips M787CL+ mainboard [http://www.pcchips.com.tw/M787cl+v30.html ] with 256 MB RAM, and 40 GB IDE harddisk. The following error appears: error in exec of stage2 :-( trying to execute '/usr/bin/runinstall2' from the installation volume, the following fatal error occurred FATA ERROR IN STAGE1: Not a directory The CDs and the ISO images are fine (MD5 checked). Moreover Knoppix 3.1 boots without any problem, hence no problem with the hardware as such. A Google search revealed that a similar problem was reported for VIA Epia 700 C3 mainboard at http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/cooker/2002-09/msg05544.php I tried to follow some of the tips, but without any success :( Has anyone on this forum tried installing Mandrake 9.0 on M787CL+ mainboard? Is there any method through which 9.0 may be installed? Irfan Irfan, are you passing any parameters to the kernel when you're doing the installation? What is your partition table setup - that's going to help alot - and if you can tell us what size partitions you're using for the installation - that would help heaps as well, mate...Cheers! -- Thu Mar 27 09:15:00 EST 2003 09:15:00 up 5 days, 20:02, 3 users, load average: 1.19, 1.15, 1.17 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * MDK 9.1 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting machine no:194239 * RH 7.3 * Sales - Service - Support - Tutor -- ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** No manual is ever necessary. May I politely interject here: BULLSHIT. That's the biggest Apple lie of all! (Discussion in comp.os.linux.misc on the intuitiveness of interfaces.) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Still unable to enjoy Mandrake 9.0 on my pure-Linuxmachine
On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 06:10, Hendrik Boom wrote: Still no joy. The CDROM still takes ages to mount. It almost as if something is tying up a bunch of low-level system stuff until it expires on a time-out. This is really interfering with using Mandrake 9.0. I might blame it on slow hardware (a 100MHz Pentium), except no such delays occur with SuSE Linux running on the same hardware (dual boot) Get rid of Supermount altogether. Then make sure the CDROM is clean. Then set the hdparm on that drive. Pray once, then try again. During boot, it takes ninety seconds to start up devFS. Is this normal? Get rid of Supermount and autofs. Subsequent operations from the CD are slow too: 29 seconds to ls a directory, 14 seconds fo unmount the CD. Set the hdparm for this drive! Really! It takes over two minutes to start Mandrake Command Centre. Most of the time it appears to be doing nothing. It takes a minute to get to the place where I can turn system services on and off. Set the hdparm for the primary drive as well...AND make sure your path statements in your /etc/ld.so.conf are set properly and ldconfig is run again to rebuild the lib path cache... -- Thu Mar 27 09:15:00 EST 2003 09:15:00 up 5 days, 20:02, 3 users, load average: 1.19, 1.15, 1.17 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * MDK 9.1 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting machine no:194239 * RH 7.3 * Sales - Service - Support - Tutor -- ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** No manual is ever necessary. May I politely interject here: BULLSHIT. That's the biggest Apple lie of all! (Discussion in comp.os.linux.misc on the intuitiveness of interfaces.) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Still unable to enjoy Mandrake 9.0 on my pure-Linux machine
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 04:54:58PM -0500, et wrote: what does cat /etc/hosts say? what does cat /etc/resolv.conf say is DNS runnig? named? ypserv? Thanks. You have given me a few leads. Here's an incomplete reply. /etc/hosts: 10.0.0.10 topoi.pooq.com topoi 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost 172.25.1.1 topoi.pooq.com topoi /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 204.101.251.1 nameserver 209.226.175.223 I don't recognise these nameservers. Looks like something I could fix. I certainly haven't asked to have a DNS or a YP running, but I presume installing 9.0 will have set up some kind of default. It's certainly my intention to have DNS running eventually, but I still haven't configured it. I'll check whether I'm actually running DNS, named, or ypserv when I next get to boot Mandrake again (this machine is used as internet gateway by a number of others, so I can't just reboot and check it right now. But so far, while runnung Mandrake, the net connexion is off. Could it be that mounting a CD requires a net connexion? Does MCC require a net connexion? Is it not possible to configure a stand-alone Mandrake system? -- hendrik Wednesday 26 March 2003 02:10 pm, Hendrik Boom wrote: Still no joy. The CDROM still takes ages to mount. It almost as if something is tying up a bunch of low-level system stuff until it expires on a time-out. This is really interfering with using Mandrake 9.0. I might blame it on slow hardware (a 100MHz Pentium), except no such delays occur with SuSE Linux running on the same hardware (dual boot) During boot, it takes ninety seconds to start up devFS. Is this normal? In case the trouble was with devFS (one of the differences between Mandrake and the SuSE system I have no trouble with), I tries doing without devFS by changing lilo.conf and rerunning lilo. Except that it didn try to start up d devFS, no difference. It still took two minutes and twenty-seven seconds to mount a CD. So devFS seems not to be the problem. Subsequent operations from the CD are slow too: 29 seconds to ls a directory, 14 seconds fo unmount the CD. It takes over two minutes to start Mandrake Command Centre. Most of the time it appears to be doing nothing. It takes a minute to get to the place where I can turn system services on and off. Under the curcumstances, comleting the installation of Mandrakd 9.0 is really hopeless. I did this in the hope of answering Miark question: On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 02:31:40PM -0500, Miark wrote: Is autofs running? If so, try turning it off with drakxservices. Miark Is drakxservices the thing you get to turn services on and off from the MCC? If so, autofs was not even listed as something to turn on or off. It really seems as though the system is locking up for times varying from thirty+seconds to over a minute now and then. Mounting a CD does eventually work (today I mounted an old OS/2 shareware CD flawlessly, except that it took four minutes). Now and then it does a read from the CD (as evidenced by the drive light), with *huge* time delays. I'm used to it doing a few reads in less than+a second on the old SuSE system wtill running on the same hardware (dual boot, SuSE and Mandrake) and returning immediately afteward with a successful mount. So I wonder what could cause the delays. I sat and watched in boot Mandrake 9.0+today. The first noticeable delay was a minute and a half or so starting devFS+demon. Id announces that it is starting the devFS demon, and about 90 seconds +later (times without a clock) it announces success. The only other delays during boot are understandable timeouts:waiting for adsl +to come up (the modem was off) and waiting to synchronize the clock (again, no +net). Is ninety-seconds a normal time to take to start up devFS? Could startup delay with devFS be related to the slow CD mount problem? Is it possible to reconfigure to skip devFS somehow (I suspect not, but I'll ask+anyway.) What does devFS do, anyway? -- hendrik -- Linux counter number 167806 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Creating CD's from ISO images.
Tom Brinkman wrote: On Wednesday March 26 2003 04:30 am, John Richard Smith wrote: ]# mount /mnt/cdrom ]# ls /mnt/cdrom Boot/ Mandrake/ ]# md5sum /dev/scd0 long wait md5sum: /dev/scd0: Input/output error ]# So why did it fail ? John I'm sort'a puzzeled by what you wrote. You seem to indicate you mounted the cdrom and cd'd into it with a Mdk CD in the drive, but then you checked the md5sum on your (empty?) burner? No, both my dvd/rom and burner are scsi-emulated so burner is /dev/scd1 and dvd/rom is /dev/scd0. I don't have supermount at all. I mounted the directory that holds the cd, and asked to see what was on the disc, ie , boot/ mandrake/ just to make sure , then asked system to report the md5sum for the mounted disc. and got the above result. I'm not sure why though? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Creating CD's from ISO images.
Try this. Place the CD in the drive and don't mount it. Then type md5sum /dev/cdrom See if that works, if not, please post the result. Cheers Jason PS, if you still get IO errors, it could be a difficulty with the drive reading the CD. In that case, try copying the whole CD to an ISO image on the HDD. Then run the md5 sum on that ISO to verify it instead. I have had to do this in the past. John Richard Smith wrote: Tom Brinkman wrote: On Wednesday March 26 2003 04:30 am, John Richard Smith wrote: ]# mount /mnt/cdrom ]# ls /mnt/cdrom Boot/ Mandrake/ ]# md5sum /dev/scd0 long wait md5sum: /dev/scd0: Input/output error ]# So why did it fail ? John I'm sort'a puzzeled by what you wrote. You seem to indicate you mounted the cdrom and cd'd into it with a Mdk CD in the drive, but then you checked the md5sum on your (empty?) burner? No, both my dvd/rom and burner are scsi-emulated so burner is /dev/scd1 and dvd/rom is /dev/scd0. I don't have supermount at all. I mounted the directory that holds the cd, and asked to see what was on the disc, ie , boot/ mandrake/ just to make sure , then asked system to report the md5sum for the mounted disc. and got the above result. I'm not sure why though? John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MCC suddenly fails/large file problem again
On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 07:15, Paul wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] sysconfig]# mcc Can't load '/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/i386-linux/auto/Gtk/Gdk/ImlibImage/ImlibIma ge.so' for module Gtk::Gdk::ImlibImage: /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/i386-linux/auto/Gtk/Gdk/ImlibImage/ImlibImag e.so: undefined symbol: pgtk_did_we_init_gtk at /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.1/i386-linux/DynaLoader.pm line 206. at /usr/lib/libDrakX/my_gtk.pm line 17 Compilation failed in require at /usr/lib/libDrakX/my_gtk.pm line 17. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/libDrakX/my_gtk.pm line 17. Compilation failed in require at /usr/X11R6/bin/drakconf.real line 35. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/X11R6/bin/drakconf.real line 35. What is going wrong here??? I do not recall messing with any perl functions/programs, as I don't speak perl. Paul Seems like there are some issues with your library path statements; you can directly edit the /etc/ld.so.conf file and include stuff in it to point properly to your lib path dirs - such as what mine is like: /usr/lib /usr/local/lib /usr/X11R6/lib /usr/lib/qt3/lib /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.0.0/post /usr/lib/wine /usr/lib/gtk-2.0 /usr/lib/gcc-lib (I think you get the picture now) ...so after you've edited this file, save it, and then run ldconfig to rebuild the cache and try getting into MCC again... HTH S. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Help please. Thank you.
On Wednesday 26 Mar 2003 10:13 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 04:38, Richard B. Thibaudeau wrote: Dear Sir / Madam. I'm using Mandrake-Linux PowerPack 9.0, with kernel 2.4.19-16mdk. It is very buggy, slow, etc. A week after a fresh installation, it generates about 50,000 files with zero bytes. I use it on a PI-233 with 114 Mb memory. I have downloaded Patch-2.4.20.bz2 at 4Mb. I have expanded that file to 22Mb. The documentation I read so far does not tell me what to do next. Make xconfig, make config or make menuconfig do not work. Thank you for your help. Richard Thibaudeau G'day Richard, Question - were you directed to download the patch for any particular reason? Why I ask is that patching and recompiling the kernel ain't for the feint of heart, mate - unless you're ready and willing to cause yourself a few headaches here and there. Patching the kernel doesn't necessarily mean that you're going to optimise your system or get better performance out of it - truly. If you're feeling that system speed is lagging and strange things are happening, you might want to start out with looking at the system overall and seeing where and what you can tweak and tune in order to get rid of those zero byte files (are they core dumps perchance?) as well as streamlining some things and tweaking your hard drive settings to get more bang for your buck... We can help if you tell us what you mean by 'buggy'. What does not work? What files are being created? What do you mean by slow? If you are running KDE on a 233MHz Pentium, then Yes it will be slow. KDE is similar to Windows XP. You could not run XP on that machine either. On a low end machine you will have a much better experience running a lightweight Window Manager such as :- Icewm - Similar to Win95 WindowManager- Not very Windows like at all. Enlightenment - Good if you like garish themes (not my favourite) Blackbox or Fluxbox - So minimal they confuse Windows users (but my favourite) You will also find there are lightweight applications that work just as well as the more 'bloated' applications but faster. Experiment. There are thousand of apps on your CDs. If you ask we can recommend apps to you. -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Nice 9.1 packaging
On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 08:57, Miark wrote: I have to say, the 9.1's packaging is much better looking than 9.0. Hopefully that compels a few more Wal-Mart shoppers etc. to pick it up and take a good look. http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/9.1/features/ Miark Hmmm...just wonder what the pricetag for Aussies is -- Thu Mar 27 10:05:00 EST 2003 10:05:00 up 5 days, 20:52, 3 users, load average: 1.19, 1.17, 1.14 -- |____ | kuhn media australia| | / ,, /| |'-. | http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |=| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' | stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |/ ._/ || | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | |'. `\ | | |icq: 5483808 | | ;/ / | | | | | smk ) /_/| |.---.| | mobile: 0410-728-389| | ' `-`' | Berkeley, New South Wales, AU | -- linux user:267497 * MDK 9.1 * PC/Mac/Linux/Networking/Consulting machine no:194239 * RH 7.3 * Sales - Service - Support - Tutor -- ** This messages was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer ** Lend money to a bad debtor and he will hate you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Creating CD's from ISO images.
Jason, ]# md5sum /dev/cdrom long wait md5sum: /dev/cdrom: Input/output error ]# this on unmounted drive. John Jason Greenwood wrote: Try this. Place the CD in the drive and don't mount it. Then type md5sum /dev/cdrom See if that works, if not, please post the result. Cheers Jason PS, if you still get IO errors, it could be a difficulty with the drive reading the CD. In that case, try copying the whole CD to an ISO image on the HDD. Then run the md5 sum on that ISO to verify it instead. I have had to do this in the past. John Richard Smith wrote: Tom Brinkman wrote: On Wednesday March 26 2003 04:30 am, John Richard Smith wrote: ]# mount /mnt/cdrom ]# ls /mnt/cdrom Boot/ Mandrake/ ]# md5sum /dev/scd0 long wait md5sum: /dev/scd0: Input/output error ]# So why did it fail ? John I'm sort'a puzzeled by what you wrote. You seem to indicate you mounted the cdrom and cd'd into it with a Mdk CD in the drive, but then you checked the md5sum on your (empty?) burner? No, both my dvd/rom and burner are scsi-emulated so burner is /dev/scd1 and dvd/rom is /dev/scd0. I don't have supermount at all. I mounted the directory that holds the cd, and asked to see what was on the disc, ie , boot/ mandrake/ just to make sure , then asked system to report the md5sum for the mounted disc. and got the above result. I'm not sure why though? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Creating CD's from ISO images.
John, Ok, sounds like the same thing I have encountered. Write the CD to an ISO image on your HDD. If you don't want to do this via the CLI, perhaps the easiest way to do it is to use the Copy CD function within K3B. Once you click the tab to copy a cd, tick the box that says create ISO image only. Once it has completed writing the CD to an ISO, run the md5 sum on that ISO and you should be able to get a result. Remember, CD burning in Linux is not an exact science. From our local LUG archive (more details for you): = The implementation of the isofs in Linux is quite bad (e.g. the method of making inodes will prevent hardlinked files from ever being stored properly on an isofs). The kernel also has the habit (ever since the first version) of reading too much data from the device, i.e. it reads past end of file on the disk. Needless to say this can cause I/O errors (oh what a surprise). For this reason only cdrecord has a -pad option, which simply writes additional zeros past the end of the filesystem onto the disk. Of course, this also stuffs your md5 sums. Another bug in the kernel is that it can't properly detect end-of-file on CD media. These additional zeros will screw your md5. For the record, all these are 100% identical: cat /dev/cdrom | md5sum md5sum /dev/cdrom dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=2k | md5sum dd /dev/cdrom bs=2k | md5sum plus any more combinations everyone can think of. They either all work, or not at all. For current 2.4.18/2.4.19 kernels, they don't work reliably. Depending on how many blocks there are on the CD, reading will work, or fal with an I/O error (when the kernel tries to read past the end of the recorded bit stream on the media). Even if the read goes ok, unless you have happened to read precisely the correct number of bytes your md5 is screwed anyway. I have had kernels where cat /dev/cdrom resulted in a complete crash (kernel panick) right at the very end of reading. In my experience the only way to get reliable md5 sums with cds is to take matters into my own hands. Download the scriptutils package/tar from my web site and use writecd --blockread /dev/cdrom | md5sum or cook your own. The trick is dd bs=2k if=/dev/cdrom count=`isoinfo -i /dev/cdrom -d | awk ...` This will force reading of the correct number of blocks from the disk media (or any disk file). Note it will only work with an isofs on the CD, not with any other filesystem. Recently I got too fed up with this Linux isofs crap that I started to put ext2 onto the cds. Much easier and trouble free: create a 650MB or 700MB file filled with zeros (by reading from /dev/zero). Run mkfs -t ext2, don't forget -m0 as there really isn't any point in reserving blocks for the super user on a read-only filesystem. Loop-mount. Master your cd with cp, or rsync, or tar, or whatever, but no need to mess with mkisofs. Unmount. cdrecord file to cd, finished. Won't be readable by microsofties, but for my backups that's just as well. == Cheers Jason John Richard Smith wrote: Jason, ]# md5sum /dev/cdrom long wait md5sum: /dev/cdrom: Input/output error ]# this on unmounted drive. John Jason Greenwood wrote: Try this. Place the CD in the drive and don't mount it. Then type md5sum /dev/cdrom See if that works, if not, please post the result. Cheers Jason PS, if you still get IO errors, it could be a difficulty with the drive reading the CD. In that case, try copying the whole CD to an ISO image on the HDD. Then run the md5 sum on that ISO to verify it instead. I have had to do this in the past. John Richard Smith wrote: Tom Brinkman wrote: On Wednesday March 26 2003 04:30 am, John Richard Smith wrote: ]# mount /mnt/cdrom ]# ls /mnt/cdrom Boot/ Mandrake/ ]# md5sum /dev/scd0 long wait md5sum: /dev/scd0: Input/output error ]# So why did it fail ? John I'm sort'a puzzeled by what you wrote. You seem to indicate you mounted the cdrom and cd'd into it with a Mdk CD in the drive, but then you checked the md5sum on your (empty?) burner? No, both my dvd/rom and burner are scsi-emulated so burner is /dev/scd1 and dvd/rom is /dev/scd0. I don't have supermount at all. I mounted the directory that holds the cd, and asked to see what was on the disc, ie , boot/ mandrake/ just to make sure , then asked system to report the md5sum for the mounted disc. and got the above result. I'm not sure why though? John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Creating CD's from ISO images.
Now that explains it. Yes I can always make an iso of the burn cd , but I wondered why the method Tom gave didn't work, and now your've answered it. Thanks. I don't mind doing it the long way round but I just wanted to make sure I was not the person making a mistake. John Jason Greenwood wrote: John, Ok, sounds like the same thing I have encountered. Write the CD to an ISO image on your HDD. If you don't want to do this via the CLI, perhaps the easiest way to do it is to use the Copy CD function within K3B. Once you click the tab to copy a cd, tick the box that says create ISO image only. Once it has completed writing the CD to an ISO, run the md5 sum on that ISO and you should be able to get a result. Remember, CD burning in Linux is not an exact science. From our local LUG archive (more details for you): = The implementation of the isofs in Linux is quite bad (e.g. the method of making inodes will prevent hardlinked files from ever being stored properly on an isofs). The kernel also has the habit (ever since the first version) of reading too much data from the device, i.e. it reads past end of file on the disk. Needless to say this can cause I/O errors (oh what a surprise). For this reason only cdrecord has a -pad option, which simply writes additional zeros past the end of the filesystem onto the disk. Of course, this also stuffs your md5 sums. Another bug in the kernel is that it can't properly detect end-of-file on CD media. These additional zeros will screw your md5. For the record, all these are 100% identical: cat /dev/cdrom | md5sum md5sum /dev/cdrom dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=2k | md5sum dd /dev/cdrom bs=2k | md5sum plus any more combinations everyone can think of. They either all work, or not at all. For current 2.4.18/2.4.19 kernels, they don't work reliably. Depending on how many blocks there are on the CD, reading will work, or fal with an I/O error (when the kernel tries to read past the end of the recorded bit stream on the media). Even if the read goes ok, unless you have happened to read precisely the correct number of bytes your md5 is screwed anyway. I have had kernels where cat /dev/cdrom resulted in a complete crash (kernel panick) right at the very end of reading. In my experience the only way to get reliable md5 sums with cds is to take matters into my own hands. Download the scriptutils package/tar from my web site and use writecd --blockread /dev/cdrom | md5sum or cook your own. The trick is dd bs=2k if=/dev/cdrom count=`isoinfo -i /dev/cdrom -d | awk ...` This will force reading of the correct number of blocks from the disk media (or any disk file). Note it will only work with an isofs on the CD, not with any other filesystem. Recently I got too fed up with this Linux isofs crap that I started to put ext2 onto the cds. Much easier and trouble free: create a 650MB or 700MB file filled with zeros (by reading from /dev/zero). Run mkfs -t ext2, don't forget -m0 as there really isn't any point in reserving blocks for the super user on a read-only filesystem. Loop-mount. Master your cd with cp, or rsync, or tar, or whatever, but no need to mess with mkisofs. Unmount. cdrecord file to cd, finished. Won't be readable by microsofties, but for my backups that's just as well. == Cheers Jason -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Creating CD's from ISO images.
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 10:04:37 -0600 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday March 26 2003 08:51 am, Todd Slater wrote: Here's some of the output from that command: Linux sg driver version: 3.1.22 Using libscg version 'schily-0.6' Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 1 Vendor_info: 'IDE-CD ' Identifikation : 'R/RW 4x4x24 ' Revision : '1.04' Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW. Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : SWABAUDIO Supported modes: TAO PACKET RAW/R16 When I tried to burn with -dao, it said to try raw. You reckon that will maintain the md5 checksum? Todd Well I had the wrong idea that all 'Generic mmc CD-RW' drives supported SAO, so I'm not gonna even guess at whether you'll still be able to check md5sums without -dao ;) No 'vendor' info? Who (really) makes it? and are there firmware updates available for it? I've got no vendor info, it just says IDE-CD. The label is HP CD Writer Plus, but I don't know who makes it? I look into firmware updates. Thanks for your help, Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Creating CD's from ISO images.
On Wednesday 26 March 2003 08:17 pm, Todd Slater wrote: On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 10:04:37 -0600 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday March 26 2003 08:51 am, Todd Slater wrote: Here's some of the output from that command: Linux sg driver version: 3.1.22 Using libscg version 'schily-0.6' Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 1 Vendor_info: 'IDE-CD ' Identifikation : 'R/RW 4x4x24 ' Revision : '1.04' Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW. Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : SWABAUDIO Supported modes: TAO PACKET RAW/R16 When I tried to burn with -dao, it said to try raw. You reckon that will maintain the md5 checksum? Todd Well I had the wrong idea that all 'Generic mmc CD-RW' drives supported SAO, so I'm not gonna even guess at whether you'll still be able to check md5sums without -dao ;) No 'vendor' info? Who (really) makes it? and are there firmware updates available for it? I've got no vendor info, it just says IDE-CD. The label is HP CD Writer Plus, but I don't know who makes it? I look into firmware updates. Thanks for your help, Todd Hewlitt Packard makes it if it is a HP CD Writer Plus, but it ought to have a model number too -- Linux counter number 167806 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Creating CD's from ISO images.
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 20:30:27 -0500 et [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 26 March 2003 08:17 pm, Todd Slater wrote: On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 10:04:37 -0600 Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I had the wrong idea that all 'Generic mmc CD-RW' drives supported SAO, so I'm not gonna even guess at whether you'll still be able to check md5sums without -dao ;) No 'vendor' info? Who (really) makes it? and are there firmware updates available for it? I've got no vendor info, it just says IDE-CD. The label is HP CD Writer Plus, but I don't know who makes it? I look into firmware updates. Thanks for your help, Todd Hewlitt Packard makes it if it is a HP CD Writer Plus, but it ought to have a model number too Investigation reveals it's an 8250i. Further investigation yielded this from the web: A wider search revealed that there are at least three versions of the 8250i, two made by Philips and one by Sony. I have the (C4463) model made in Hungary. After some examination, I concluded that it is equivalent to a Philips CDD4201. I have the C4463 model, too, so I'll see about the firmware issue. Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Mdk 9.1- how to upgrade??
Title: Message Hi To be frank, it took me a few months to set up some of the "good stuff" in my "three-month old" mdk 9.0, like Exceed XDMCP remote login, Samba, hardware,network...etc. Basically I just finished making it a handy workstation andstarted to enjoy it. Right nowI am getting excited with the new features and upgraded performance from the latest Mdk 9.1. But I am really not sure -is there a way toupgrade without affecting all my previous configuration?I am not a guru in linux, and I know I am going to be mad if I have to go through the painstaking process again! :p I heard that by default mdk 9.1 installation does not change the original /home directory. But how about things I mentioned above? Shall I choose the option "upgrade" when installing? I really want to know - how you experts upgrade? ( I am sure you have donemuch more than me on your mdk 9.0!) Thanks, Shan
[newbie] Mounting compressed DOS Hard Disks
Hi, I have the following old Double Space compressed DOS disk: -r-xr-xr-x1 root root 20393984 Jul 18 2001 386spart.par -r-xr-xr-x1 root root 128761856 Jul 18 2001 Dblspace.000 -r-xr-xr-x1 root root64246 Jul 18 2001 Dblspace.bin -r-xr-xr-x1 root root 77 Jul 18 2001 Dblspace.ini How do I mount it on my LM9.0? Thanx, Seedkum, Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Creating CD's from ISO images.
Jason Greenwood wrote: The implementation of the isofs in Linux is quite bad (e.g. the method of making inodes will prevent hardlinked files from ever being stored properly on an isofs). The kernel also has the habit (ever since the first version) of reading too much data from the device, i.e. it reads past end of file on the disk. Jason, just curious, is this only a create issue. I downloaded and created the Mandrake 9.0 CDs in Windows 2000 using Adaptec CD Creator. After installing Mandrake, I ran md5sum against the downloaded ISO images (shared FAT32 partition) and the CD (using the dd method) and got exacly the same number on both. I also ran md5sum against the 3 RedHat 8.0 CDs using the dd method and again got the correct results. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Creating CD's from ISO images.
And so you should. You are correct. The problem seems to occur most when it goes like this DL ISOBurn ISO as a bootable CD Rip (copy) CD to ISO Image and then ck md5sum. I am not sure but it is indeed one of those things that cannot be anticipated. I copied that section of the comment from someone much more knowlegeable than I in our local LUG. I usually have few problems myself but people I know have problems mostly on older CDRom drives/burners. Regards, Jason PS, get a Windows md5sum checker here: http://etree.org/software/md5sum.exe I believe... Guy Rouillier wrote: Jason Greenwood wrote: The implementation of the isofs in Linux is quite bad (e.g. the method of making inodes will prevent hardlinked files from ever being stored properly on an isofs). The kernel also has the habit (ever since the first version) of reading too much data from the device, i.e. it reads past end of file on the disk. Jason, just curious, is this only a create issue. I downloaded and created the Mandrake 9.0 CDs in Windows 2000 using Adaptec CD Creator. After installing Mandrake, I ran md5sum against the downloaded ISO images (shared FAT32 partition) and the CD (using the dd method) and got exacly the same number on both. I also ran md5sum against the 3 RedHat 8.0 CDs using the dd method and again got the correct results. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] mdk9.1-how to upgrade?
Hi To be frank, it took me a few months to set up some of the good stuff in my three-month old mdk 9.0, like Exceed XDMCP remote login, Samba, hardware, network... etc. Basically I just finished making it a handy workstation and started to enjoy it. Right now I am getting excited with the new features and upgraded performance from the latest Mdk 9.1. But I am really not sure - is there a way to upgrade without affecting all my previous configuration? I am not a guru in linux, and I know I am going to be mad if I have to go through the painstaking process again! :p I heard that by default mdk 9.1 installation does not change the original /home directory. But how about things I mentioned above? Shall I choose the option upgrade when installing? I really want to know - how you experts upgrade? ( I am sure you have done much more than me on your mdk 9.0!) Thanks, Shan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mdk 9.1- how to upgrade??
On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 19:05, Kou Shan Shan wrote: Hi To be frank, it took me a few months to set up some of the good stuff in my three-month old mdk 9.0, like Exceed XDMCP remote login, Samba, hardware, network... etc. Basically I just finished making it a handy workstation and started to enjoy it. Right now I am getting excited with the new features and upgraded performance from the latest Mdk 9.1. But I am really not sure - is there a way to upgrade without affecting all my previous configuration? I am not a guru in linux, and I know I am going to be mad if I have to go through the painstaking process again! :p I heard that by default mdk 9.1 installation does not change the original /home directory. But how about things I mentioned above? Shall I choose the option upgrade when installing? I really want to know - how you experts upgrade? ( I am sure you have done much more than me on your mdk 9.0!) Thanks, Shan Not an expert, but I have installed 9.1 over 9.0 twice as an upgrade (one yesterday, and one today) and twice as a fresh install (both today). I usually prefer to do a fresh install, leaving my /home partition intact, but upgrading didn't touch it during any of these installs. My settings were preserved for all applications. FWIW, the first install (work computer, upgrade 9.0 to 9.1) went well. The only issues were losing network settings, and having to run drakconf after the install to get X to start. (Screen resolution) Other than that, it's exactly like it was before, but with newer stuff. My home machine was another story. After one upgrade attempt and two fresh installs, I'm back to 9.0. Your /home should be safe, but I would (and did) back it up just in case. -- Brandon www.vanderberg.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] (fwd) /etc/resolv.conf response
I'm sorry if this message has already appeared on mandrake-newbie. It seems the message was bounced while the mail server died on mandrax. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Command died with signal 9: /usr/bin/procmail -a $DOMAIN -d $LOGNAME in pace requiescat rest of message: nameserver 204.101.251.1 nameserver 209.226.175.223 The first one is sympatico.ca, according to 'host'. The second looks move suspicious, it's nsctor1.bellnexxia.net, for whatever it's worth. I think any Internet connected host could potentially be assigned to be a nameserver, but more likely it's going to be assigned by your ISP administrator. -- hendrik Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake 9.0 on M787CL+ mainboard
--- Stephen Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2003-03-27 at 06:02, Irfan Khan wrote: I am facing problems in installing Mandrake 9.0 (I don't have 9.1) on a PCChips M787CL+ mainboard [http://www.pcchips.com.tw/M787cl+v30.html ] with 256 MB RAM, and 40 GB IDE harddisk. The following error appears: error in exec of stage2 :-( trying to execute '/usr/bin/runinstall2' from the installation volume, the following fatal error occurred FATA ERROR IN STAGE1: Not a directory The CDs and the ISO images are fine (MD5 checked). Moreover Knoppix 3.1 boots without any problem, hence no problem with the hardware as such. A Google search revealed that a similar problem was reported for VIA Epia 700 C3 mainboard at http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/cooker/2002-09/msg05544.php I tried to follow some of the tips, but without any success :( Has anyone on this forum tried installing Mandrake 9.0 on M787CL+ mainboard? Is there any method through which 9.0 may be installed? Irfan Irfan, are you passing any parameters to the kernel when you're doing the installation? What is your partition table setup - that's going to help alot - and if you can tell us what size partitions you're using for the installation - that would help heaps as well, mate...Cheers! my first few installation attempts were quite 'normal': i inserted Mandrake 9.0 CD#1, and started the computer. a graphical screen appears [F1 for more options; enter to install...]. after a few seconds, it displays Please Wait | Loading program into memory with a progress bar, and then an error occurs in the very beginning: error in exec of stage2 :-( trying to execute '/usr/bin/runinstall2' from the installation volume, the following fatal error occurred FATA ERROR IN STAGE1: Not a directory i have reasons to believe that the harddisk is not a problem here; the problem occurs much before it could ask me to partition/format the disk. based on what i read at http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/cooker/2002-09/msg05544.php my understanding is that the M787CL+ reports itself to be a i686 class machine and Mandrake puts in glibc package optimized for i686. only if there is a way to stop this and let Mandrake use glibc for i586. i guess that Mandrake 9.1 may have corrected this, but i cannot download 690+ MB ISOs at the moment. is there some way that Mandrake 9.0 is forced to use glibc for i586? irfan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] here's a couple wind*ws checksum utils
I can't remember where i found this (sorry if it came from the list!) but here is The INQUIRER guide to installing Linux http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=6162 In part 3, they give links to wind*ws checksum utils. I used http://www.etree.org/md5com.html It worked. Well, it spent a few minutes and then said the fioles were ok, anyway! huff Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mdk9.1-how to upgrade?
workstation and started to enjoy it. Right now I am getting excited with the new features and upgraded performance from the latest Mdk 9.1. But I am really not sure - is there a way to upgrade without affecting all my You really shouldn't have to do all that over again. Most of your local tweaks will affect files in /etc and in your home directory. I recommend making a backup of /etc/ as an upgrade may play with some of those files. Ideally, an upgrade won't alter any configuration files and they normally save off the old configuration for you, or put a new one in whateverconfigfile.rpmnew. You should also make a backup of /home just to be safe, but in a normal install or upgrade you can tell it not to fdisk the /home or other partitions. I recommend saving the output of 'mount' so you don't accidentally wipe out an unintended partition. Ideally, print it out. Shan Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Creating CD's from ISO images.
file would have a different md5sum from a burnt ISO file to disc, where the contents of that ISO file is written not the ISO file itself. My No - the ISO and the cd are (or at least should be) the same thing -- because an ISO is simply an image of a CD, bit for bit identical. It's kind of like an archive - for instance if I took an image of a tape written with 'tar' it would be the same thing - in this case, a tar file. reasoning being that an iso file may be compared to a locked suitcase of books, against a shelf of books all individually available ? I guess so, but think of it as an archive of files. The packaging (or to use your analogy of a suitcase) is transparent; the ISO is the collection of files, not just a set of files packaged into another file, because that implies packaging headers and so forth. John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.1 final has been released
Hey, I have nothing to complain about. I had both ISO's inside of 2.5 hours. I was averaging almost 400 Kbps from carroll.cac.psu.edu. Of wow - but you forgot a CD :). I'm getting 136 kbps here using a swedish mirror. Not too bad, considering the statement on Mandrake's download page saying all the mirrors are overloaded. Chad Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.1 final has been released
wow. thanks to Anders Linds, bob, and David E Fox for all the ftp sources. You're welcome. I guess you're on a modem? FWIW some months ago I posted a script I found whilst looking for fast kde cvsup mirrors. It's a small perl script that compares response times. You might search the archives for it. It seems that adapting it to mandrake mirrors would not be too difficult. I'll repost the file if there's interest. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
