Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Microsoft critic loses job over report
Dale Huckeby wrote: On Fri, 26 Sep 2003, Margot wrote: If I suddenly inherited Microsoft (hey Bill - I'm your long-lost daughter!) I'd try to trace all the people that the empire had ripped off and give them their money back, and then give remaining unidentifiable funds to a suitable charity. Remaining? Dale Huckeby Some of the former M$ users may already be dead, with no surviving family to claim their share, and some might not claim because they'd feel too embarrassed at being "outed" as M$ users, so the shares of the money that could not be applied to rightful owners would go to the charity! Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Loosing Chinese users?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 27, 2003 04:24 am, Pipkin wrote: > Please remove me from your mailing list. This is Spam and an invasion of > my privacy. Since you signed up for the list yourself you'll have remove yourself. SPAM? Yeah if you say so. It's hard to call a mailing list you requested spam under any form of logic with which I'm familiar. I won't even mention the "Reply To:" you set in Lookout. Click the following link to remove yourself: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/flists.php3 follow the instructions. Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 00:49:57 up 6 days, 14:10, 2 users, load average: 0.30, 0.39, 0.27 A waist is a terrible thing to mind. -- Ziggy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/dTQdG11CaRuZZSIRAooyAJ9azQiNU0030o7QpTYEFr5Y4PcJmgCffsnF ennkY9eJEpqMIUE0vQT2lCU= =lWPo -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Kicker?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 27, 2003 12:06 am, Lance Cummings wrote: > Got this new little app-launch button on the taskbar after upping to > RC2. Looks kind of like a little gear. Clicking it produces an > error window: > > Unable to run the command specified. The file or directory > file:/home/lance/.kde/share/apps/kicker/Welcome.desktop does not > exist. > > Should I be concerned about this? (Sorry for the plethora of what > are probably simple questions, but I *am* a newbie.) ^_- > > Lance Yep, you're running cooker all right. (-: Hold the Alt button and hit F2 at the same time. You can type "Konsole" or "rxvt" to open a terminal and become super user. If you like you can save a step by clicking the options button and open the terminal as root. Then run the following command: rpm --rebuilddb && updatedb && update-menus -n && ldconfig You should get your menus back. Assuming of course that part of KDE hasn't gone missing, in which case let the list know and we shall see what we shall see. Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 00:40:31 up 6 days, 14:00, 1 user, load average: 0.21, 0.18, 0.17 Death is a spirit leaving a body, sort of like a shell leaving the nut behind. -- Erma Bombeck -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/dTK7G11CaRuZZSIRAhv9AJ9eXS2ltPfhpTrMbXfE0X2nSToq8wCgoxl9 aQe2N6wwujKvyoFzrC5pvcQ= =vvFd -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] an apology, WAS: Ford Motor Co. opens arms to Linux!
On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 14:43, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > On Friday 26 September 2003 10:42 pm, Fajar Priyanto wrote: > > > Excuse me, Ma'am. My english is not so good, and I wonder what you mean by > > 'ty'. You seem to use it quite often. > > I'm pretty sure it simply means "thank you". I thought it meant "treacle yogurt" stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- There are no winners in life, only survivors. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Microsoft critic loses job over report -PDF POSTED
On Sat, 2003-09-27 at 09:47, HaywireMac wrote: > On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 09:38:43 +1000 > Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > > > You'd never be able to put IIS on it and have it up for more than a > > day or so, mate... > > Meanwhile, it stayed up for 90 days, that poor wittle P166, til the big > power outage. It could probably still handle a lot more than I'm > currently throwing at it too, if I added a bit more RAM I could prolly > use the new Samba and make it a bloody PDC! LOL! > > Try that with Win2K3! You couldn't. BTW, it's nice to say "Yeah - my machine's been up for 90 days!" - but for home systems it's nice to bring'em down every 30 days and blow out the dust/dirt/bugs and whatnot... I bought a new case for my server at home - new fans and the likes - so that's why she's coming down this weekend... stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Sorry never means having your say to love. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Kicker?
Got this new little app-launch button on the taskbar after upping to RC2. Looks kind of like a little gear. Clicking it produces an error window: Unable to run the command specified. The file or directory file:/home/lance/.kde/share/apps/kicker/Welcome.desktop does not exist. Should I be concerned about this? (Sorry for the plethora of what are probably simple questions, but I *am* a newbie.) ^_- Lance Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] nasty upgrade surprise
On Saturday 27 September 2003 14:02, yankl wrote: > On Saturday 27 September 2003 12:27 am, Lance Cummings wrote: > > I put Cooker RC2 over my Bamboo last night, and I'm pretty > > unhappy that I did so. ---8<--- > Kde packages after 3.1.2 got really segmented first try to run > kmail from cli. If you will get an erorr message try to reinstall > kdenetwork package. Just urpmi kdenetwork as root. Reinstall of kdenetwork successfull, and thankfully mail database still there.That is *not*, however, something one expects of an upgrade routine. (I still have to reconfigure my taskbar application launch buttons, which is kind of rude.) ^_^ Can you explain what you mean by 'got segmented'? I understand the words of course, but not the context as it relates to what happened to me. The reinstall of kdenetwork was slick as a whistle, and the KMail menu was right where I would have expected it to be: Networking>Mail>KMail. Next steps are fonts (which Charlie has kindly offered help with) and sound. Anybody know how to get sound (using an Asus P4PE with Soundmax on board)? (Feel free to change the subject line if you reply to that.) Lance Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Shot myself in the foot...again.
On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:24:07 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello all, here's my dilemma: > Problems: First, I thought I might try to set up the new 20Gb HD as > slave and use my old 30Gb HD as master. Also, I did not order a new > CDROM with the new system (though I have a new DVD/CDRW combo drive on > the way), so I thought I'd just transfer my 44x CDROM into the new > system as well. Well, after I transferred the 30Gb HD and the CDROM > over to the new system, the computer recognized my hardware and then > tried to boot; however, linux wouldn't have that. So, linux tried to > adjust to the new hardware and format the new HD, but it froze up. > So, I tried to reboot and load WinXP (sorry, just seeing if it would > work so I could dual boot) off of CDROM. Well, the windows set up > recognized the hard drive and formatted the master (30Gb) HD, but then > when it tried to start copying windows files to the HD, it wouldn't do > it. Well, then I tried to reboot again, and that's when everything > just went to hell. After the reboot, the BIOS would recognize the HDs > and the CDROM, but would not read from the CDROM. It gave me a > "failure" message when it got to the step to read from the CDROM > drive. Then, because I could not load from the cdrom and the system > files had not been written to the HD yet, I get the error message > "NTLDR is missing. Check to see if a bootable disk is in the drive or > put a bootable disk in the drive and press enter." Well, when I put > either the Mandrake 9.1 disk in or the WinXP disk, I get the same > error. Basically, the BIOS has quit reading from the CDROM. I don't > know how to get it to read. Did I lose the driver? Did I somehow > kill my CDROM? I don't know. That's problem one. > > > Thanks in advance > Jack Check for bent pins & fubared cables. First thing ... secondly check for correct jumpers & try making your cdrom & hardrive in diff master/slave settings. Fe Fi Fo Femme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] an apology, WAS: Ford Motor Co. opens arms to Linux!
> > Excuse me, Ma'am. My english is not so good, and I wonder what > > you mean by 'ty'. You seem to use it quite often. > > sorry dear, its an acronym. It means "thank you". theres also, > YW or yw which is "you're welcome". > > :) > > FemmesAlot Foe some reason i just got a little chuckle out of the fact that this apology for slamming an off topic thread has generated another, much longer one. I love this list! eric PS (just to make sure: no sarcasm was used in the creation of this email) -- Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] an apology, WAS: Ford Motor Co. opens arms to Linux!
On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 09:42:09 +0700 Fajar Priyanto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Saturday 27 September 2003 01:18 am, Heather/Femme wrote: > > awww *blushes* ty ;) > > > > F > > Excuse me, Ma'am. My english is not so good, and I wonder what you > mean by 'ty'. You seem to use it quite often. > > - -- > Fajar http://linux.arinet.org sorry dear, its an acronym. It means "thank you". theres also, YW or yw which is "you're welcome". :) FemmesAlot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] xawtv for indonesia : HELP!
On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 14:23, Iwan Binanto wrote: > You right. I was setting it on PAL and still cannot > receive any broadcast... and in in setting panel, > I cannot find Indonesia's broadcast. > Maybe I must have a driver for it ? My tv card is VDO > Mate. Well, there probably isn't a pre-defined set of channels set up for Indonesia yet, so you will have to choose the country with the closest standards to you and either auto-scan through all the frequencies to search for them (unreliable if signal strength isn't 100%), or manually set the channel frequencies yourself by manually scanning or typing in the exact frequency if you know what it is. You could try the XawTV website or mailing list for advice, or a local Indonesian user group mailing list (I'm sure you're not the first Indonesian resident to run a TV card in Linux :-) This of course assumes that your TV card is recognised and configured in Linux. Go through the MCC (Mandrake Control Centre), under Hardware is DrakxTV, which you can use to configure your hardware (although it doesn't always work, my card needed manually changes to modules.conf to get it working), which finishes with an auto-scan. You'll know the hardware is working if you get a screen and earfull of static. Once the hardware is going, then try to set up your own frequencies. Now, I find XawTV to have an awful UI, so I use Zapping instead. It's manual channel config is certainly easier. There is also KWinTV, but it's a bit old and buggy, and the replacement QTVision is not quite ready yet. Cheers! John. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Modem connects OK but apps can't locate hosts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 26 September 2003 09:52 pm, Joe Janzen wrote: > My modem is U.S. Robotics 56K FAX INT V5.0.0. I've also tried with/without > 'Use lock file' checked in KPPP's device options. Right now KPPP is set to > PAP authentication, to obtain dynamic IP (per ISP's instructions), default > gateway and automatic DNS (also tried manually entering ISP's DNS IP). > I've tried 'chmod u+s pppd' and 'service network restart' after making some > of the above changes. Also, I removed an old ethernet card that wasn't > being used in case it was causing a problem with eth0 vs. ppp0. > > I'd be extremely grateful if someone could help me! > > Thanks, > Joe Is your DNS set? Check your /etc/resolv.conf Remove any 127.0.0.1, and replace it with your ISP's DNS IP. - -- Fajar http://linux.arinet.org Linux mdk91.sistek.kom 2.4.21-0.13mdk GNU/Linux 11:47:44 up 4:25, 10 users, load average: 3.49, 2.97, 2.47 Quote of the day: Win98 is called Win98 because it is about as stable and flexible as Linux 0.0.98 (or at least, Microsoft claims it is) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/dRddUrYxG8KGMVERAnQeAJoD84TAv0QDZz6v3YbXh0hbmLodBQCfSXTN 7/VKizLarxQKotHFhybEVak= =4fQu -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Very basic bash question
On Friday 26 Sep 2003 4:10 pm, Dick Gevers wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi, > > I studied the bash documentation reasonably thoroughly, including man mv > and info mv, but I haven`t found the answer to this; so I am hoping for a > simple answer here: > > Often I am in /home/dvg/foo and want to move files from /home/dvg/foo/bar > to ~/foo. I can`t find a command shortcut to do this. Until now I have had > to work around by: > cd bar > mv file* .. > s (=alias for cd ..) > > Naturally I could have done: > mv /bar/file* ~/foo, but sometimes my current prompt is several levels down > and I prefer to keep it short and simple. I`m sure there is an easier way. > > TIA for your answer. > > Regards, > =Dick Gevers= > > > .> > Mandrake visibility? See headers... > <. > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Encryption is an envelope - the contents are private. > > iD8DBQE/dFb8wC/zk+cxEdMRAum9AJ92+9vZGP/8NSxZki68DxnZm83Q6QCgoIif > aGogvymnC5ixKS4qwm3Cmk8= > =nRjw > -END PGP SIGNATURE- argh, test worked ... didn't think it would. Anyway: mv ~/foo/bar/file ~/foo -should work from any directory. If you were in foo you could use: mv bar/file . - not /bar/file though as this would point to a directory called bar under / - the . stands for the current directory. If you are moving files all the time you could do: export foobar=~/foo/bar - this sets the variable foobar to hold the path to save having to type it. from then on you could use: mv $foobar/file $foobar/.. If you wanted to you could edit ~/.bash_profile so that the variable foobar is set when you start bash. add the following: foobar=~/foo/bar export foobar This wouldn't be much use unless this file moving of yours is always from bar to foo. I'm reading through this basic stuff at the moment. I didn't understand where ~/ was. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] ATI 8500DV AIW video drivers
Hello everyone, Is there anybody out there with some experience with this card under ML9.1? At a minimum, I would like to get the 3D acceleration and the TV tuner functions working. It is my understanding that the ATI drivers will provide GL acceleration but will do nothing for any of the other functions of this card and that the Gatos drivers can provide atleast nearly full funtionality to this card under linux. I have also found reports that the ATI drivers may work better for the 3D acceleration than the ati.2 gatos drivers provide? Any thoughts or experience on this subject? Also, is it possible to mix and match the drivers to use ATI's own drivers for 3D Accelation and the Gatos drivers for the TV tuner, tivo functions, remote, etc.? I have also noted that ATI's driver rpm "fglrx-glc22-4.2.0-2.5.1.i586.rpm" is built for glibc 2.2 and their check.sh script reports that I have glibc 2.3, as I understand it this shouldn't be a problem, but I'm wondering if there is a better rpm to use? or a better solution? During my attempts to decipher the gatos website I have gotten the impression that these drivers are intended to be used with XFree86 version 4.1.0 and work atleast somewhat with 4.2.0, what is this going to mean to me since I am running 4.3.0? The more information I find, the more confused I become on this entire video driver subject. If someone can point me in the right direction here, I'd really appreciate it. What I'm really looking for is any advice on how to get the best results with this card, and a heads up on any problems that I can expect to run into. If there are any good information sources on this that could help clear some of these things up, please let me know where to find them. below are the results of running the check.sh script from the ATI website, if there is any further information that I can provide that will help with this discussion, please let me know what you need and since it's likely that I don't know, how to find that info. = ATI Technologies = Checking which OS you're running... uname reports 'Linux' version '2.4.21-0.13mdk', architecture 'i686'. Object format is 'ELF'. libc version is '6.3'. XFree86 Version 4.3.0 is installed. No package available for glibc 2.3. Try fglrx-glibc22.tgz Binary package name is 'fglrx-glibc21.tgz' Thanks in advance for any and all help provided. I know I'm asking for a lot of info here but as I said, now that I have been looking into this for a while, I am no longer even sure where to start. RTFM one too many times I guess. Dax Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Shot myself in the foot...again.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 27 September 2003 08:24 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello all, here's my dilemma: > I recently purchased a barebones system. The specs are: > > Motherboard: MS-6533 Micro ATX Mainboard > Hard Drives (HDs): 20Gb EIDE Maxtor & 30Gb EIDE AT Maxtor DiamondMax VL 40 > 5400rpm (the 30gb Maxtor was the hard drive from my old system that I had > bene using) > > Processor: 2.4Ghz Pentium 4 > Memory: 128Mb DDR PC2100 RAM & (extra purchase I added) 256Mb DDR PC2100 > RAM CDROM: (out of my old computer) ATAPI 44x CDROM (don't know > manufacturer; hand-me-down) > > > Problems: First, I thought I might try to set up the new 20Gb HD as slave > and use my old 30Gb HD as master. Also, I did not order a new CDROM with > the new system (though I have a new DVD/CDRW combo drive on the way), so I > thought I'd just transfer my 44x CDROM into the new system as well. Well, > after I transferred the 30Gb HD and the CDROM over to the new system, the > computer recognized my hardware and then tried to boot; however, linux > wouldn't have that. So, linux tried to adjust to the new hardware and > format the new HD, but it froze up. So, I tried to reboot and load WinXP > (sorry, just seeing if it would work so I could dual boot) off of CDROM. > Well, the windows set up recognized the hard drive and formatted the master > (30Gb) HD, but then when it tried to start copying windows files to the HD, > it wouldn't do it. Well, then I tried to reboot again, and that's when > everything just went to hell. After the reboot, the BIOS would recognize > the HDs and the CDROM, but would not read from the CDROM. It gave me a > "failure" message when it got to the step to read from the CDROM drive. > Then, because I could not load from the cdrom and the system files had not > been written to the HD yet, I get the error message "NTLDR is missing. > Check to see if a bootable disk is in the drive or put a bootable disk in > the drive and press enter." Well, when I put either the Mandrake 9.1 disk > in or the WinXP disk, I get the same error. Basically, the BIOS has quit > reading from the CDROM. I don't know how to get it to read. Did I lose > the driver? Did I somehow kill my CDROM? I don't know. That's problem > one. > > Problem 2: Well, after the old HD and CDROM would not work in the new > machine, I tried putting them back into my old PC and loading Windows or > Linux back onto the HD that way. Now, when the old pc starts to boot up, > it gives the message "Hard drive failed". Did I kill my hard drive? > > Problem 3: The MS-6533 motherboard requires, inter alia, PC2100 DDR RAM, > and,from what I've seen in the manual, there is no requirement of symmetry > of chips (i.e., it doesn't seem to require 2 128Mb chips, but will work > with a 128Mb and a 256Mb). However, the computer won't read my 256Mb chip > at all and it IS PC2100 DDR RAM. I probably just got a bum stick, but, > just in case, I had to ask if maybe I should be doing something more than > just popping the memory into the motherboard. Any ideas? > > Thanks in advance > Jack Hello Jack, Looks like you're really shooting yourself in the foot... with an Uzi! ;p Well, the problems are quite complex, so let's start localizing it one by one shall we? 1. Your hdd and cdrom were fine when they were still in the old pc 2. You installed them on the new pc and problems began arising 3. You put back your hdd and cdrom into the old pc and hdd was failing! - From those, we can deduce that it is very likely that your new motherboard is the cause. Whoooa! Wait a minute, before we jump into that, we need one CRUCIAL information from you: "was there any chance that the new motherboard has been tested before you bought it? Did you see any system running on that motherboard? or you just bought it wrapped nicely in a box?" If the answer is that you haven't witnessed any running system on that motherboard, then it is VERY LIKELY that you've got yourself a defect product, and it might also have ruinned your hd (check both hds in the old box, see if the new hd survives). For the memory issue, try put the memory into another box, see if it works. - -- Fajar http://linux.arinet.org Linux mdk91.sistek.kom 2.4.21-0.13mdk GNU/Linux 09:48:27 up 2:25, 10 users, load average: 1.93, 1.49, 1.29 Quote of the day: In 1968 it took the computing power of 2 C-64's to fly a rocket to the moon. Now, in 1998 it takes the Power of a Pentium 200 to run Microsoft Windows 98. Something must have gone wrong. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/dP8OUrYxG8KGMVERAuDOAKCn1yDe9BwOQsVa+o/SkU09FVj3xwCglzVF f1yjBNQEKxJBoxiWhSdw52U= =nhs6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] nasty upgrade surprise
On Saturday 27 September 2003 12:27 am, Lance Cummings wrote: > I put Cooker RC2 over my Bamboo last night, and I'm pretty unhappy > that I did so. > > When I reboot after the upgrade, my taskbar buttons have been > reconfigured. Some, for example KMail, are gone. Others are new. In > my opinion new is okay, I can always deal with that. But I cannot > come up with any justification for an upgrade routine that subtracts > or eliminates anything I've configured. > > Moreover, and really annoying, my KMail appears to have vanished into > the ether. It is not on *any* menu or sub menu (believe me, I have > checked and triple-checked them all), and I cannot find it on the > drive (which may be that I simply don't know where or how to look). > > So I'm rather annoyed at the moment, and e-mailing from Windows. > > I realize a beta is a beta is a beta, etc. But an RC2 is also > extremely close to a release version, and many actually be one. The > reason I did this, by the way, is that someone else running a P4PE > with onboard sound told me it worked in Cooker. Not mine. So this > entire exercise was a waste of time, and has apparently set me back > rather than moved me forward. > > Is one able to trust an upgrade routine from Mandrake? To what > extent? > > Where do you suppose my KMail is? > > Yes, "upgrade" was selected from the install routine. > > Lance Kde packages after 3.1.2 got really segmented first try to run kmail from cli. If you will get an erorr message try to reinstall kdenetwork package. Just urpmi kdenetwork as root. -- Yankl Tiny IT guy. 100 % Micro$oft free. Registered linux users 181086 URL: http://yankele.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] xawtv for indonesia : HELP!
You right. I was setting it on PAL and still cannot receive any broadcast... and in in setting panel, I cannot find Indonesia's broadcast. Maybe I must have a driver for it ? My tv card is VDO Mate. --- Dennis Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 25 September 2003 07:35 pm, Iwan Binanto > wrote: > > Hi, I try to use xawtv; but I cannot receive any > > broadcast in Indonesia. What must I do for receive > any > > broadcast in Indonesia ? Because in setting panel, > I > > cannot find Indonesia's broadcast ... ??? > > Please, help me . > > Thx+ > > > > __ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product > search > > http://shopping.yahoo.com > Have you checked to make sure that it is set for PAL > or SECAM whichever is > used in Indonesia? I think PAL comes up as default. > HTH > -- > Dennis M. linux user #180842 > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] an apology, WAS: Ford Motor Co. opens arms to Linux!
On Friday 26 September 2003 10:42 pm, Fajar Priyanto wrote: > Excuse me, Ma'am. My english is not so good, and I wonder what you mean by > 'ty'. You seem to use it quite often. I'm pretty sure it simply means "thank you". -- /\ Dark>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Shot myself in the foot...again.
On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 18:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello all, here's my dilemma: > I recently purchased a barebones system. The specs are: > > Motherboard: MS-6533 Micro ATX Mainboard > Hard Drives (HDs): 20Gb EIDE Maxtor & 30Gb EIDE AT Maxtor DiamondMax VL 40 5400rpm > (the 30gb Maxtor was the hard drive from my old system that I had bene using) > > Processor: 2.4Ghz Pentium 4 > Memory: 128Mb DDR PC2100 RAM & (extra purchase I added) 256Mb DDR PC2100 RAM > CDROM: (out of my old computer) ATAPI 44x CDROM (don't know manufacturer; > hand-me-down) > > > Problems: First, I thought I might try to set up the new 20Gb HD as slave and use > my old 30Gb HD as > master. Also, I did not order a new CDROM with the new system (though I have a new > DVD/CDRW combo drive > on the way), so I thought I'd just transfer my 44x CDROM into the new system as > well. Well, after I > transferred the 30Gb HD and the CDROM over to the new system, the computer > recognized my hardware and > then tried to boot; however, linux wouldn't have that. So, linux tried to adjust to > the new hardware > and format the new HD, but it froze up. So, I tried to reboot and load WinXP > (sorry, just seeing if it > would work so I could dual boot) off of CDROM. Well, the windows set up recognized > the hard drive and > formatted the master (30Gb) HD, but then when it tried to start copying windows > files to the HD, it wouldn't do it. Well, then I tried to reboot again, and that's > when everything just went to hell. After the reboot, the BIOS would recognize the > HDs and the CDROM, but would not read from the CDROM. It gave me a "failure" > message when it got to the step to read from the CDROM drive. Then, because I could > not load from the cdrom and the system files had not been written to the HD yet, I > get the error message "NTLDR is missing. Check to see if a bootable disk is in the > drive or put a bootable disk in the drive and press enter." Well, when I put either > the Mandrake 9.1 disk in or the WinXP disk, I get the same error. Basically, the > BIOS has quit reading from the CDROM. I don't know how to get it to read. Did I > lose the driver? Did I somehow kill my CDROM? I don't know. That's problem one. > > Problem 2: Well, after the old HD and CDROM would not work in the new machine, I > tried putting them back into my old PC and loading Windows or Linux back onto the HD > that way. Now, when the old pc starts to boot up, it gives the message "Hard drive > failed". Did I kill my hard drive? > > Problem 3: The MS-6533 motherboard requires, inter alia, PC2100 DDR RAM, and,from > what I've seen in the > manual, there is no requirement of symmetry of chips (i.e., it doesn't seem to > require 2 128Mb chips, > but will work with a 128Mb and a 256Mb). However, the computer won't read my 256Mb > chip at all and it > IS PC2100 DDR RAM. I probably just got a bum stick, but, just in case, I had to ask > if maybe I should > be doing something more than just popping the memory into the motherboard. Any > ideas? Swap the positions of the 256 and the 128 chips. if the BIOS finds 128Meg in the first slot it wont look for the extra memory BTW please set your wraparound to 79 char or less.(scrolling sideways makes me dizzy;-) ) > > Thanks in advance > Jack > > __ > McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. > Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial today! > http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 > > Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! > http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455 > > __ > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Microsoft critic loses job over report
On Friday 26 September 2003 05:19 pm, Margot wrote: > I was thinking of setting up a charity to provide trauma counselling for > those who have suffered from the Blue Screen of Death > > Margot (Bill's daughter from the Dark Side!) Shouldn't that be more like the CDC (Centers For Disease Control)? Because surely thats an epidimic??? -- /\ Dark>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Shot myself in the foot...again.
On Friday 26 September 2003 08:24 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello all, here's my dilemma: > I recently purchased a barebones system. The specs are: > > Motherboard: MS-6533 Micro ATX Mainboard > Hard Drives (HDs): 20Gb EIDE Maxtor & 30Gb EIDE AT Maxtor DiamondMax VL 40 > 5400rpm (the 30gb Maxtor was the hard drive from my old system that I had > bene using) > > Processor: 2.4Ghz Pentium 4 > Memory: 128Mb DDR PC2100 RAM & (extra purchase I added) 256Mb DDR PC2100 > RAM CDROM: (out of my old computer) ATAPI 44x CDROM (don't know > manufacturer; hand-me-down) > > > Problems: First, I thought I might try to set up the new 20Gb HD as slave > and use my old 30Gb HD as master. Also, I did not order a new CDROM with > the new system (though I have a new DVD/CDRW combo drive on the way), so I > thought I'd just transfer my 44x CDROM into the new system as well. Well, > after I transferred the 30Gb HD and the CDROM over to the new system, the > computer recognized my hardware and then tried to boot; however, linux > wouldn't have that. So, linux tried to adjust to the new hardware and > format the new HD, but it froze up. So, I tried to reboot and load WinXP > (sorry, just seeing if it would work so I could dual boot) off of CDROM. > Well, the windows set up recognized the hard drive and formatted the master > (30Gb) HD, but then when it tried to start copying windows files to the HD, > it wouldn't do it. Well, then I tried to reboot again, and that's when > everything just went to hell. After the reboot, the BIOS would recognize > the HDs and the CDROM, but would not read from the CDROM. It gave me a > "failure" message when it got to the step to read from the CDROM drive. > Then, because I could not load from the cdrom and the system files had not > been written to the HD yet, I get the error message "NTLDR is missing. > Check to see if a bootable disk is in the drive or put a bootable disk in > the drive and press enter." Well, when I put either the Mandrake 9.1 disk > in or the WinXP disk, I get the same error. Basically, the BIOS has quit > reading from the CDROM. I don't know how to get it to read. Did I lose > the driver? Did I somehow kill my CDROM? I don't know. That's problem > one. > > Problem 2: Well, after the old HD and CDROM would not work in the new > machine, I tried putting them back into my old PC and loading Windows or > Linux back onto the HD that way. Now, when the old pc starts to boot up, > it gives the message "Hard drive failed". Did I kill my hard drive? > > Problem 3: The MS-6533 motherboard requires, inter alia, PC2100 DDR RAM, > and,from what I've seen in the manual, there is no requirement of symmetry > of chips (i.e., it doesn't seem to require 2 128Mb chips, but will work > with a 128Mb and a 256Mb). However, the computer won't read my 256Mb chip > at all and it IS PC2100 DDR RAM. I probably just got a bum stick, but, > just in case, I had to ask if maybe I should be doing something more than > just popping the memory into the motherboard. Any ideas? > > Thanks in advance > Jack > > __ > McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. > Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial > today! > http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 > > Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! > http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455 On the CDROM, do you have it set as master or slave? Make sure the jumper is in position for whichever you choose. Put the Primary master as hard drive and on the end connector of the cable, the slave on primary master should be on the mid connector. I think that the best way to connect is to have the HDs on Primary (master and slave) and the CDROM and CDRW on secondary master and slave. Others may prefer a different arrangement. I have run into the problem with the hard drive as you have and the only way I could get the harddrive recognized was to reformat. I first erased it with "DiskEraser" and then did a clean install. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] nasty upgrade surprise
I put Cooker RC2 over my Bamboo last night, and I'm pretty unhappy that I did so. When I reboot after the upgrade, my taskbar buttons have been reconfigured. Some, for example KMail, are gone. Others are new. In my opinion new is okay, I can always deal with that. But I cannot come up with any justification for an upgrade routine that subtracts or eliminates anything I've configured. Moreover, and really annoying, my KMail appears to have vanished into the ether. It is not on *any* menu or sub menu (believe me, I have checked and triple-checked them all), and I cannot find it on the drive (which may be that I simply don't know where or how to look). So I'm rather annoyed at the moment, and e-mailing from Windows. I realize a beta is a beta is a beta, etc. But an RC2 is also extremely close to a release version, and many actually be one. The reason I did this, by the way, is that someone else running a P4PE with onboard sound told me it worked in Cooker. Not mine. So this entire exercise was a waste of time, and has apparently set me back rather than moved me forward. Is one able to trust an upgrade routine from Mandrake? To what extent? Where do you suppose my KMail is? Yes, "upgrade" was selected from the install routine. Lance Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Very basic bash question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Julian, On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 03:49:26 +0100, julian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about Re: [newbie] Very basic bash question: >> Often I am in /home/dvg/foo and want to move files from /home/dvg/foo/bar >> to ~/foo. I can`t find a command shortcut to do this. Until now I have >> had to work around by: >> cd bar >> mv file* .. >> s (=alias for cd ..) >argh, test worked ... didn't think it would. > >Anyway: >mv ~/foo/bar/file ~/foo >-should work from any directory. Clear. >If you were in foo you could use: >mv bar/file . Many thanks! That`s exactly what I was looking for. >- not /bar/file though as this would point to a directory called bar under >/- the . stands for the current directory. Sorry: the first `/` was a typo. >If you are moving files all the time you could do: >export foobar=~/foo/bar >- this sets the variable foobar to hold the path to save having to type it. >from then on you could use: >mv $foobar/file $foobar/.. This is also clear, but I don`t think I`ll be needing that much; see below. >If you wanted to you could edit ~/.bash_profile so that the variable foobar >is set when you start bash. add the following: >foobar=~/foo/bar >export foobar I use the `move from subdir to dir` in many different places - as they arise - - so indeed I could, but would have to set too many variables to be practical. >I'm reading through this basic stuff at the moment. You must be paying better attention than I. Thanks for your answer. Ciao, =Dick Gevers= .> Mandrake visibility? See headers... <. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Encryption is an envelope - the contents are private. iD8DBQE/dQyEwC/zk+cxEdMRAmfMAJ4sfFxwXW7bXqummRVfoKhuC511GwCglWUA ENIDWRhwLeSnQNFIYPXdDzE= =in8G -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] an apology, WAS: Ford Motor Co. opens arms to Linux!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 27 September 2003 01:18 am, Heather/Femme wrote: > awww *blushes* ty ;) > > F Excuse me, Ma'am. My english is not so good, and I wonder what you mean by 'ty'. You seem to use it quite often. - -- Fajar http://linux.arinet.org Linux mdk91.sistek.kom 2.4.21-0.13mdk GNU/Linux 09:40:27 up 2:17, 10 users, load average: 1.02, 1.15, 1.18 Quote of the day: Win98 error 001: Unexpected condition: booted without crashing. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/dPkDUrYxG8KGMVERAk9eAJ9yBuIbFV6ggIl1wTnvwxNRMwol7wCfa75g fJAf4EBAMd8A91ExryQvzyc= =J6lV -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Loosing Chinese users?
Please remove me from your mailing list. This is Spam and an invasion of my privacy. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Miark Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Loosing Chinese users? On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 00:10:43 +0800, Anguo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This was posted by jeff at MandrakeClub. Does anyone knows > more about it??? The English version of Red Flag sucked--we're even. ;-) Miark > > If this is the last one before 9.2 final, I am sure Mandrake > will lose most users from Taiwan and Hong Kong. They will > switch to RedHat for much better Chinese support. > > 9.2rc1 and rc2 are not able to show Traditional Chinese at > all because only Simplied Chinese fonts are installed. I > have already filed this issue in Bugzilla and I hope there > is another release candidate to fix this. > > About 2 years ago, Mandrake was much better in Chinese > support in comparison with other distributions. However, > RedHat have surpassed Mandrake in Chinese support nowadays > that has made many Traditional Chinese user switch to > RedHat. Less and less people have took part in forum on > Mandrake. The prospect of Mandrake among Chinese Linux > market may be not optimistic. > > > -- > In the news: UK Government backs open source > Open-source software will help avoid lock-in to proprietary > IT products and technologies says the government, in its > long-awaited policy document > Read more: > http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t269-s2119628,00.html > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Shot myself in the foot...again.
On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 19:13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Aron Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Swap the positions of the 256 and the 128 chips. if the BIOS finds > >128Meg in the first slot it wont look for the extra memory > >BTW please set your wraparound to 79 char or less.(scrolling sideways > >makes me dizzy;-) ) > >> > > I've tried the swap and, when the 256 chip is in the first position, I get nothing; > absolutely nothing. No boot up, nothing. The power comes on, but nothing happens. > When I leave just the 256 chip in by itself, I get a really long beep and, again, > nothing. your 256 chip is kaput. > > __ > McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. > Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial today! > http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 > > Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! > http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455 > > > __ > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Shot myself in the foot...again.
Dennis Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On the CDROM, do you have it set as master or slave? Make sure the jumper is in >position for whichever you choose. Put the Primary master as hard drive and on the >end connector of the cable, the slave on primary master should be on the mid >connector. I think that the best way to connect is to have the HDs on Primary (master >and slave) and the CDROM and CDRW on secondary master and slave. Others may prefer a >different arrangement. I have run into the problem with the hard drive as you have >and the only way I could get the harddrive recognized was to reformat. I first erased >it with "DiskEraser" and then did a clean install. HTH >-- I have the 20Gb HD now set to primary master (on ribbon and jumper settings) and the cdrom set to secondary master. Still no change. Also, is there a difference in IDE cables? I notice the ribbon for the hd that came with the new system is slimmer than the ones I have in the old system. Would that have an effect? In other words, if I'm trying to use an older ribbon on the newer system, will that keep the old stuff from operating properly? Could the newer motherboard and power supply short out the old HD and cdrom? When I try to boot from cdrom, it says "Boot from CDROM: Failure" Jack __ McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial today! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Shot myself in the foot...again.
Aron Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Swap the positions of the 256 and the 128 chips. if the BIOS finds >128Meg in the first slot it wont look for the extra memory >BTW please set your wraparound to 79 char or less.(scrolling sideways >makes me dizzy;-) ) >> I've tried the swap and, when the 256 chip is in the first position, I get nothing; absolutely nothing. No boot up, nothing. The power comes on, but nothing happens. When I leave just the 256 chip in by itself, I get a really long beep and, again, nothing. __ McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial today! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Microsoft critic loses job over report
On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 19:21, Margot wrote: > Stephen Kuhn wrote: > > Who says you can't buy an opinion or create the idea of security? If > > you've got more than enough money, you can even kill off your critics! > > > > http://www.msnbc.com/news/971914.asp?0si=- > > stephen kuhn - owner > > Of course, there are two sides to every story... > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,1049085,00.html > > So Bill's really a Saint, yeah? > > Margot That should be a duty for those with money like that - not just a charitable thing - a duty. But y'all already know he's doing it to get good press - charitable events make for good press - and it's a means by which to show the world he ain't all that evil - even if his products are. stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- Young men and young women may work systematically six days in the week and rise fresh in the morning, but let them attend modern dances for only a few hours each evening and see what happens. The Waltz, Polka, Gallop and other dances of the same kind will be disastrous in their effects to both sexes. Health and vigor will vanish like the dew before the sun. It is not the extraordinary exercise which harms the dancer, but rather the coming into close contact with the opposite sex. It is the fury of lust craving incessantly for more pleasure that undermines the soul, the body, the sinews and nerves. Experience and statistics show beyond doubt that passionate excessive dancing girls can hardly reach twenty-five years of age and men thirty-one. Even if they reached that age they will in most instances be broken in health physically and morally. This is the claim of prominent physicians in this country. -- Quote from a 1910 periodical Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Sound Card
I have a Creative Labs Sound Blaster Live 5.1 PCI sound card and I have just about had enough with sound card problems with this computer. Over the past couple of years, I started with Mandrake 8.2 and upgraded to 9.0 and 9.1 During my really initial learning phase, I reloaded Mandrake 8.2 and 9.0 several times each. The only problem that I had (and it occurred everytime) was I had to struggle with getting the sound to work all the way. I got the sound to work with 9.1 for the most part with the exception of the Surround sound until recently someone had a solution that fixed the Surround sound. Yesterday, during something I was doing, I trashed my / directory and had to reload 9.1 for the second time. Guess what -- the sound doen't work at all again. I have tried everything that I did in the past, researched the newbie list (and there are thousands of entries on sound problems) tried everything I could find there and still no sound. My rant is that every time that I have had to install a new version or reinstall an old version I have had to fiddle-dick with this sound card and the solution has appeared to be different every time. SO THE POINT TO THIS LONG AND TIRED EMAIL IS -- I know that someone (and I remember it as being Anne) bought a sound card that came with Linux drivers and worked out of the box. I don't mind the occasional learning experience but this is one of those problems that I would like to make permanently go away. Is there a particular Sound card that works? David -- ( )_( ) ( 0 0 ) --( )-- --0-- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] USB PALM Sync woes continue
On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 13:13:14 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: >Bleh! Any advice appreciated. The only other thing I can suggest is installing jpilot and trying to sync that way. The reason I say this is it might give you some more descriptive output in the GUI at least, and also because I have noticed that sometimes when I hit "sync" in jpilot it gives me a similar error, but then if I wait a few seconds and hit sync again, it works. Other than that it's a stumper, sorry, it just doesn't make any sense. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ There are no winners in life, only survivors. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Microsoft critic loses job over report
On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 18:24, HaywireMac wrote: > Now, see, if *I* posted that, I'd be flamed into oblivion... > > Solidarity brother! (and sisters) That's just cuz everyone likes to flame ya kiddo...it's nature... stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- If your happiness depends on what somebody else does, I guess you do have a problem. -- Richard Bach, "Illusions" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Microsoft critic loses job over report -PDF POSTED
On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 18:16, HaywireMac wrote: > On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:07:35 +1000 > Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > > > > > Ok...have to get offa my arse on this one - I've put it up on my > > website so that y'all don't have to dig for it - or have it RANDOMLY > > get lost or quashed in the interim. Here y'all go: > > > > http://thor.prohosting.com/~kilgoret/files/cyberinsecurity.pdf > > > > > > ...along with some other bits'n'bobs there... > > > > Cheers and beers and be nice to the queers! > > Holy shite, I can hear *my* server thrashing like crazy, LOL! > > The load average just shot up like a bugger, if it was IIS it woulda > crashed by now... You'd never be able to put IIS on it and have it up for more than a day or so, mate... stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- "If value corrupts then absolute value corrupts absolutely." Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] GTKam cannot contact my fuji mx 2900
On Friday 26 September 2003 07:50 pm, Mike Adolf wrote: > I am having problems download pictures from my fuji mx 2900. > Using GTKam, if I select to 'add camera' and then select > 'detect' button, I get no camera found. My camera is hooked > to the serial port, turned on, and set to communicate with the > pc. If I select fuji mx 2900 (from a list) during the 'add > camera' task, the camera appears at the top of the left list. > Trying anything leads to an error. When asking for 'more' > about the error, it always says "cannot contact camera". What > should I do? > > mike Mike, I can't get GTKam to work either. But something confuses me here : you have a serial connection, but as far as I know GTKam only works for USB. On a serial line, I think you should try gPhoto. If your camera isn't listed, try another Fuji. Those cameras are supposed to have pretty standard settings, like Olympus. Funny thing is, when I plug my Olympus into the USB port the GTKam icon appears on my KDE screen, but behaves exactly like you describe : no go. I have to mount the device manually, then the camera acts like just another harddisk and I can move, copy etc.. Try to go to the gPhoto homepage : http://www.gphoto.org/proj/libgphoto2/support.php where your camera is listed as supported. HTH Kaj Haulrich. -- *This mail was sent from a 100 % Microsoft free computer* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] an apology, WAS: Ford Motor Co. opens arms to Linux!
On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 06:58:34 -0700 Aron Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrotes > > Femme > We love you anyway ;-) > > awww *blushes* ty ;) F Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] GTKam cannot contact my fuji mx 2900
I am having problems download pictures from my fuji mx 2900. Using GTKam, if I select to 'add camera' and then select 'detect' button, I get no camera found. My camera is hooked to the serial port, turned on, and set to communicate with the pc. If I select fuji mx 2900 (from a list) during the 'add camera' task, the camera appears at the top of the left list. Trying anything leads to an error. When asking for 'more' about the error, it always says "cannot contact camera". What should I do? mike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Samba in Mandrake 9.1
Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 26 Sep 2003 7:49 pm, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: At 02:08 PM 9/26/2003, Anne Wilson said something remarkably like (but somehow subtly different from): Afterwards users will be able to access theit /home folders from a Windows computer. Thank you. I think I got this working right, but I am getting errors from my Windows machines. I suspect the problem is now on the Windows side. What kind of errors? Using Windows Explorer, I can see the Samba server, and when I click on it I get a login screen. But when I try to login I get: *** *** \\LOCALHOST is not accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find out if you have access permissions. You were not connected because a duplicate name exists on the network. Go to System in Control Panel to change the computer name and try again. *** *** Now, I know that my home network does not have duplicate computer names. I have a workgroup setup among three Windows machines and it works fine. Might the problem be that I cannot belong to two different workgroups? The Samba server shows up as part of MDKGROUP. In /etc/smb/conf you must set the workgroup to the same name (case-sensitive) that your windows users have. Is there any way to configure samba to work for more than one workgroup? Sir Robin -- "I can say: 'Thank these bees for their honey as though they were kind people who have prepared it for you'; that is intelligible and describes how I should like you to conduct yourself. But I cannot say: 'Thank them because, look, how kind they are!'--since the next moment they may sting you. - Wittgenstein Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[2]: [newbie] Rant: The man pages
Hello Anne, Tuesday, September 23, 2003, 2:43:16 PM, you wrote: >> It may be in the docs, but not in a form that is readily accessible >> by a simple search. AW> It's an interesting proposition, but not an overnight job, I think True. How does one get a group together to develop it? -- rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Microsoft critic loses job over report
On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 11:11, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > On Friday 26 September 2003 03:42 am, Margot wrote: > > > If I suddenly inherited Microsoft (hey Bill - I'm your long-lost > > daughter!) I'd try to trace all the people that the empire had ripped > > off and give them their money back, and then give remaining > > unidentifiable funds to a suitable charity. > > Like Linux/OSS/EFF, Mandrake, etc, etc, :- Beowolf servers all around ;-)) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] keep password broken?
On Friday 26 September 2003 12:15 pm, RichardA wrote: > On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:52:43 +0900, Lance Cummings > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sure. But absolutely no one can get near my computer. ^_^ And I do > > mean no one. > > Then put your user account in /etc/sudoers. > > Don't read man sudoers -- your head will explode. Instead, add this > line: > > username ALL = NOPASSWD: ALL > > I think this is too extreme, I just do: > > username ALL = ALL > > Which means I have to give my password, not root's, to execute a > command as root. Also, something happens to the $PATH, (anyone know > what?) /sbin doesn't seem to be in it, for example. > > Richard Bad idea, If your computer connected to the Internet. Even though, the number of viruses/trojans for LINUX is miniscule it not 0. Given all user root rights will increase chance for getting your box compromise. -- Yankl Tiny IT guy. 100 % Micro$oft free. Registered linux users 181086 URL: http://yankele.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Changing monitor
On Friday 26 September 2003 10:48 am, Anguo wrote: > Hello, > > I currently use an old 14' CRT monitor and I'd like to > change to a new 15' or 17' LCD monitor. > > I can find information on configuration, but what do I do > when I want to switch from one monitor to the other? > Do I turn off the computer, make the switch and Mandrake > will notice the new monitor at boot and configure it (the > checking for new hardware is on at boot). Or should I boot > in console mode, without X and configure the new monitor > from the console. > > Can you provide some pointers to the general procedure to > follow is such a situation. > > > Thanks, > > Anguo I, and it is me, would log in console and run XFdrake, pick up monitor from menu and proper resolution. Remember that most LCD run in native resolution of 1200X1024 Or if I know parameters of monitor you can edit XF86free-4 file located in /etc/X11/ folder. -- Yankl Tiny IT guy. 100 % Micro$oft free. Registered linux users 181086 URL: http://yankele.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Do you have a 17' LCD monitor (or 15' one)?
On Friday 26 Sep 2003 6:10 pm, Anguo wrote: > Hello, > > Do any of you use a 17' LCD monitor? > Which one? > If not, do you have a 15' one? > Which one? > Have you been able to configure a nVIDIA graphic card with > it? > Which one? > > Linux support for the latest technologies and most recent > hardware tend to be lacking. > My brother has not been able to install the nVIDIA drivers > to go with his 17' inch LCD monitor, so, as a complete > newbie, he had to give up the powerpack to install with the > free download edition. He told me that there is not option > for 17'monitors during installation, so he couldn't select > his monitor. > > I'd like to change my 14' CRT monitor for a 17' LCD one, but > I'd like to see if anyone had any luck with them before I > buy one. > > (My brother's setup: > monitor: Nec Multisync LCD 1760nx > card: nVIDIA GeForce 4 MX440) > I don't use nVidia drivers - mine is a Matrox card - but my Taxan 15" lcd and David's Llyama 15" lcd both are set to generic 15" lcd panel, and work fine. The nVidia driver is working the display card, after all, so as long as the generic setup can handle your screens capabilities everything should be ok. HTH Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] "Parking" messages in KMail
On Friday 26 Sep 2003 5:54 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I use Kmail and it does a dandy job of keeping 3 accounts seperate. > HTH Dennis M. > Going back to the original question about parking - the way I resolve the problem is by having sorting folders, mainly for use by filters, but I also have an Archive folder, with subfolders. I move important things to there, and put no expire date on them. The rest of the folders can have expiry dates of 1 month, 2 months, or whatever seems to fit that particular folder's purpose. You can elect to expire all folders on exit, and if you have moved the biggies out it will take care of things for you. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Microsoft critic loses job over report
On Friday 26 September 2003 03:42 am, Margot wrote: > If I suddenly inherited Microsoft (hey Bill - I'm your long-lost > daughter!) I'd try to trace all the people that the empire had ripped > off and give them their money back, and then give remaining > unidentifiable funds to a suitable charity. Like Linux/OSS/EFF, Mandrake, etc, etc, :- -- /\ Dark>Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Microsoft critic loses job over report
On Friday 26 Sep 2003 5:49 pm, rikona wrote: > Hello Margot, > > Friday, September 26, 2003, 12:42:21 AM, you wrote: > > M> I'm an ethical-minded person and would only have built my > empire M> selling products that worked, > > (1) You clearly have NO place in the Microsoft organization. > > (2) Unfortunately, it is very unlikely you would have made a > gazillion dollars with this attitude. If you're not willing to > destroy people as did Ghengis Kahn, you don't make huge fortunes. No, but as one who ran a business on ethical lines, I can say that you can make a decent living and a comfortable retirement and still have a good conscience. Yes, we could have made a lot more if I had treated others badly, but being able to live with myself and my conscience is worth more. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Samba in Mandrake 9.1
On Friday 26 Sep 2003 4:22 pm, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: > At 03:27 AM 9/26/2003, Derek Jennings said something remarkably > like (but > > somehow subtly different from): > >To get Samba working all you need to do is set the Workgroup name > > in the config file. > >You can do that by GUI simply by installing the drakwizard RPM > > using your Mandrake Software Manager. Restart Mandrake control > > Centre and there will be a new 'server' category. Go through the > > Samba Wizard. > > > >At the end of the wizard it tells you to open a terminal. Enter > > 'su' to become > >root and then for each user of your system enter > > > >smbpasswd -a user_name > > > >The user_name must exist in both Linux and Windows. > >The password given is the **WIndows** password for that user. It > > does not have > >to be the same as the Linux password. > > > >Afterwards users will be able to access theit /home folders from a > > Windows computer. > > Thank you. I think I got this working right, but I am getting > errors from my Windows machines. I suspect the problem is now on > the Windows side. What kind of errors? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[2]: [newbie] ARTICLE: Microsoft critic loses job over report
Hello Margot, Friday, September 26, 2003, 12:42:21 AM, you wrote: M> I'm an ethical-minded person and would only have built my empire M> selling products that worked, (1) You clearly have NO place in the Microsoft organization. (2) Unfortunately, it is very unlikely you would have made a gazillion dollars with this attitude. If you're not willing to destroy people as did Ghengis Kahn, you don't make huge fortunes. -- rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] keep password broken?
On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 21:52:43 +0900, Lance Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sure. But absolutely no one can get near my computer. ^_^ And I do > mean no one. Then put your user account in /etc/sudoers. Don't read man sudoers -- your head will explode. Instead, add this line: usernameALL = NOPASSWD: ALL I think this is too extreme, I just do: usernameALL = ALL Which means I have to give my password, not root's, to execute a command as root. Also, something happens to the $PATH, (anyone know what?) /sbin doesn't seem to be in it, for example. Richard -- "Get up and turn I loose" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CD-writer fails with CD-R but not CD-RW
Douglas Bainbridge wrote: On Thu, 2003-09-25 at 11:55, John Richard Smith wrote: The test files were assembled with mkisofs along the lines you mention. They write out to the CD-RW OK. then write to disc tmp]$ cdrecord -v speed=4 dev=0,0,0 -eject -ignsize /tmp.iso (where dev=0,0,0 is whatever it should be on your system, ie cdrecord -scanbus, and speed is whatever is appropiate for your device) I've used your cdrecord command - no joy.It's slightly different from the one I used (cdrecord -v speed=2 dev=0,0,0 -data /tmp.iso) There is a slight difference in the output at Sense Code: here - Sense Code: 0x0C Qual 0x00 (write error) Fru 0x0 whereas it was - Sense Code: 0x73 Qual 0x03 (power calibration area error) Fru 0x0 I wondered whether that might mean cdrecord's power settings for CD-Rs on the Sony CDwriter were incorrect, whereas they were satisfactory for writing CD-RWs. What do you think? DougB "cdrecord -v speed=2 dev=0,0,0 -eject -ignsize corrimage Cdrecord 2.0 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM scsidev: '0,0,0' scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0 Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24 Using libscg version 'schily-0.7' atapi: 1 Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 1 Vendor_info: 'SONY' Identifikation : 'CD-RW CRX175E2 ' Revision : 'S002' Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW. Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : MMC-2 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE FORCESPEED Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R96R Drive buf size : 1359872 = 1328 KB FIFO size : 4194304 = 4096 KB Track 01: data 0 MB padsize: 312 KB Total size:0 MB (00:04.02) = 302 sectors Lout start:1 MB (00:06/02) = 302 sectors Current Secsize: 2048 ATIP info from disk: Indicated writing power: 4 Is not unrestricted Is not erasable Disk sub type: Medium Type A, low Beta category (A-) (2) ATIP start of lead in: -12508 (97:15/17) ATIP start of lead out: 359848 (79:59/73) Disk type:Short strategy type (Phthalocyanine or similar) Manuf. index: 22 Manufacturer: Ritek Co. Blocks total: 359848 Blocks current: 359848 Blocks remaining: 359546 Forcespeed is OFF. Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 4 in real TAO mode for single session. Last chance to quit, starting real write0 seconds. Operation starts. Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready. BURN-Free is ON. Turning BURN-Free off Performing OPC... Starting new track at sector: 0 Track 01:0 of0 MB written. Track 01: writing 312 KB of pad data. Track 01: Total bytes read/written: 294912/614400 (300 sectors). cdrecord: Input/output error. flush cache: scsi sendcmd: no error CDB: 35 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 03 00 00 00 00 0C 00 00 00 00 0C 00 00 00 Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x0C Qual 0x00 (write error) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) cmd finished after 5.073s timeout 120s Trouble flushing the cache Writing time: 15.920s Average write speed 0.8x. Fixating... cdrecord: Input/output error. close track/session: scsi sendcmd: no error CDB: 5B 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 03 00 00 00 00 0C 00 00 00 00 0C 00 00 00 Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x0C Qual 0x00 (write error) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) cmd finished after 40.434s timeout 480s cmd finished after 40.434s timeout 480s Fixating time: 40.438s cdrecord: fifo had 5 puts and 5 gets. cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 0 times full, min fill was 100%" The only difference. I think your on to something, take a look at, http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg04341.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg04350.html http://www.psychology4u.de/mcguinness/brenner_error.txt http://www.ale.org/archive/ale/ale-2000-09/msg00624.html from man cdrecord, DIAGNOSTICS You have 9 seconds to type ^C to abort cdrecord after you see the mes- sage: Starting to write CD at speed %d in %s mode for %s session. A typical error message for a SCSI command looks like: cdrecord: I/O error. test unit ready: scsi sendcmd: no error CDB: 00 20 00 00 00 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 25 00 00 00 00 00 Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x25 Qual 0x00 (logical unit not supported) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) cmd finished after 0.002s timeout 40s
RE: [newbie] "Parking" messages in KMail
Title: RE: [newbie] "Parking" messages in KMail I use Kmail and it does a dandy job of keeping 3 accounts seperate. HTH Dennis M. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin B. O'Brien Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 10:33 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] "Parking" messages in KMail At 04:40 AM 9/26/2003, Franki said something remarkably like (but somehow subtly different from): >>What are the top three GUI mail clients in Linux, do you all reckon? >> > >Franki: > >I'd guess: >Kmail >Evolution >Mozilla Mail > >Many like Sylpheed as well, but I'd guess the three above would be used by >the majority. Do you know if any of them do a good job with multiple accounts, keeping them separate? I have been using Eudora for Windows, which I really like. It keeps track of each account as a separate "personality", and if I reply to a message it knows which "personality" received the message, and uses the appropriate return address, signature, etc. I'd like to be able to do that in Linux, if possible. -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL [EMAIL PROTECTED] "One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that one's work is terribly important." -- Bertrand Russell Help fight SPAM. Join CAUCE. http://www.cauce.org/
[newbie] Do you have a 17' LCD monitor (or 15' one)?
Hello, Do any of you use a 17' LCD monitor? Which one? If not, do you have a 15' one? Which one? Have you been able to configure a nVIDIA graphic card with it? Which one? Linux support for the latest technologies and most recent hardware tend to be lacking. My brother has not been able to install the nVIDIA drivers to go with his 17' inch LCD monitor, so, as a complete newbie, he had to give up the powerpack to install with the free download edition. He told me that there is not option for 17'monitors during installation, so he couldn't select his monitor. I'd like to change my 14' CRT monitor for a 17' LCD one, but I'd like to see if anyone had any luck with them before I buy one. (My brother's setup: monitor: Nec Multisync LCD 1760nx card: nVIDIA GeForce 4 MX440) Thanks, anguo -- In the news: Microsoft memo: Linux fight backfiring The software giant's efforts to mock open-source software such as Linux have worked against the company Read more: http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,t269-s2125524,00.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] "Parking" messages in KMail
Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: At 04:40 AM 9/26/2003, Franki said something remarkably like (but somehow subtly different from): What are the top three GUI mail clients in Linux, do you all reckon? Franki: I'd guess: Kmail Evolution Mozilla Mail Many like Sylpheed as well, but I'd guess the three above would be used by the majority. Do you know if any of them do a good job with multiple accounts, keeping them separate? I have been using Eudora for Windows, which I really like. It keeps track of each account as a separate "personality", and if I reply to a message it knows which "personality" received the message, and uses the appropriate return address, signature, etc. I'd like to be able to do that in Linux, if possible. Franki: I am writing this on Mozilla Thunderbird, and it appears to do all that you want, in the accounts section, each account has its own copy of all the settings, so it would appear that moz mail does what you need. The version I have has a couple of odd bug, but nothing major. One problem I have noticed, is that because I have it setup to leave messages on the server, it occasionally downloads old messages more then once.. which is annoying but no showstopper. Its been a while, but I am pretty sure that evolution has per account settings also. rgds Franki Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] clipboard integration with Mozilla
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 26, 2003 03:38 am, Derek Jennings wrote: [..] > > Double clicking on the URL launches Konqueror of course, and I'd love > > to change that to Mozilla if anyone will share the trick. Konqueror > > promptly launched a pop up ad from that MSNBC site, something I > > don't have to see in Windows since I have them all blocked. (Also, > > Konqueror seems much less 'finished' than Mozilla, and seems to have > > real trouble with some pages that Mozilla handles easily). I > > understand Mozilla has a built in popup blocker, so I want to use it > > for that and other reasons. In Konqueror "Settings", or you can access from the Configuration menu by clicking the button on the bottom left of the taskbar (panel) under the heading of Configuration>KDE>Web Browsing>Java and JavaScript. The JavaScript function on web popups policy can be set to "Smart" and you'll get the popups you request by clicking a link, but automatic popups will usually be disallowed by the browser. Or you can use the Deny setting to block all, which is the default in Mozilla You must then specify sites allowed to display through popups. If you work from the desktop menu the configuration options are under the JavaScript tab. I haven't even looked while the browser was open lately but the display should be similar once you open the Settings and find the correct section. > Copy/Paste > --- > > Copy /paste using the 'Edit' menu does not necessarily work between > applications that use different toolkits ie kmail and mozilla. > > But the method of copy/paste that works everywhere in Linux is > 'highlight' with mouse/ click mouse wheel. > Once you get used to it Windows will seem clumsy by comparison. > > Default Actions > --- > To change default actions in KDE open the KDE > ControlCentre>Components>ComponentsChooser > > To change the default application to handle a file type > KDEControlCentre>DileAssociations > search for the file type you want to change and put your favourite app at > the top of the list. > > derek HTH Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 10:05:10 up 5 days, 23:25, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.04, 0.09 Whenever a system becomes completely defined, some damn fool discovers something which either abolishes the system or expands it beyond recognition. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/dGagG11CaRuZZSIRAtSnAJwOs1s+XJeJtX1WKhy74+oLDTYeTgCeNgK5 n3XulgByv8gDwKb8J+ijh7g= =QEL5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] taskbar design?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 26, 2003 03:21 am, Lance Cummings wrote: > I have two problems with the taskbar in KDE 3.1. > > 1) some applications open with the titlebar under the taskbar when > the taskbar is at the top of the screen You can hold the Alt button and the left mouse click (hold both at the same time) and drag a display window around the screen without having to "hook" the title bar. There's also a setting accessible from the panel configuration menu (right click the location area or right click the menu button, select Configure Panel) that will allow other windows to cover the task bar, plus a cursor positional awareness setting to have the task bar reappear when the mouse is moved to a chosen position. As in bottom left, top left, bottom right etc., depending where you decide to park your task bar. These settings are under the "Hiding" tab. The only time I recall seeing anything such as this was on an install where icon zooming was selected. The icon and the text both zoomed and there was no space available for the increased size. I could be incorrect though, it's been a while. > This also is a bug in XP, at least on my machine. I keep my taskbar > at the top of the screen, a la Mac style. For me, the extension of > the fingers to move the cursor up is a much easier movement on the > hand and wrist than the contraction to go down-left. What has > become the "normal" "start button" location is about the > ergonomically worst possible position for me. But there ya go, and > some apps open with titlebars under the taskbar. I doubt this > happens with the taskbar at the bottom -- it doesn't in Windows > either. > > 2) the identifying text on taskbar buttons fades out on the right > side of the button In the same panel configuration dialogue there are choices to set that will allow you to have icons only with "tooltips" to identify the icons. That may help. If I recall correctly the Texstar KDE packages were also better in this and other ways as well. I still think font settings will help though, as well as adjusting the icon size if you haven't already. The best font packages for most people's installations seem to be those available from PLF. You can install packages from there using the Software manager by adding it to the source repositories. Easiest way is to follow the Easy URPMI link at: http://plf.zarb.org which will take you here: http://plf.zarb.org/~nanardon/ > Can't believe this is by design, but it must be. Doesn't matter the > app, the text is fine for the left-most 85 percent or so of the > button, then fades fast. Ugly as sin IMHO. Where the title of the > application is short (does not fill the button), there is no > problem. But if the title extends to the right side of the button, > the text fades out. I think the design is to set defaults that work for an "average" environment and leave available settings to customize whatever you like. In fact I'm sure of it. > > Lance For the fade out have you tried choosing different fonts in the KDE Control Panel? Are you using anti-aliasing? It may just be a font setting. This falls under the heading of "works for me" but I'm running cooker and quite a lot has changed in 9.2 vs 9.1. Including almost all of KDE. If font settings don't help yell, someone will see and try to help figure it out. HTH Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 10:21:55 up 5 days, 23:41, 1 user, load average: 0.09, 0.13, 0.09 A writer is congenitally unable to tell the truth and that is why we call what he writes fiction. -- William Faulkner -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/dG9HG11CaRuZZSIRAnlCAJ0VfIWye8+HNb3LQ37x//roqgm5qACfdV70 qYdsPpwONiPEf1IT4AaTJUM= =x/us -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[2]: [newbie] European Parliament votes for software patents.
Hello Peter, Thursday, September 25, 2003, 3:53:36 AM, you wrote: PW> However, this is really a reflection of the sheep like mentality PW> of the electors and not a valid criticism of the parliament as PW> such, to put it another way. if you vote for idiots you get PW> idiots in parliament, but is this the idiot's fault or yours You are discounting the enormous power of the media. If a person repeatedly hears one side, and negative information about the other, even a non-idiot will probably go along with the propaganda. Just look at the recall circus in California. The leading candidate on one side is a well-known actor. Even well qualified candidates probably don't have a chance against him. Media exposure runs the show. With huge media conglomerates, it's becoming simple: Huge campaign contributions --> large media exposure --> get elected. The best government money can buy. -- rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re[2]: [newbie] Rant: The man pages
Hello Anne, Tuesday, September 23, 2003, 2:41:02 PM, you wrote: >> How about a help-system list, maybe? AW> Hi, Rikona. Thanks for the offer. It's better not to split into AW> too many resources, so why not check out the TWiki for newbie AW> stuff, then decide where it would fit best. What this might be is a list for DEVELOPERS of the help system, NOT a list for Mandrake help. But this assumes we have a group interested in developing a help system. So far, we have zero volunteers. :-) -- rikonamailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Nvidia and Xinerama
Very funny, Can someone kindly help me out??? Thanks! YPK On Thu, 2003-09-25 at 17:42, Miark wrote: > On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 14:55:23 -0400, "Yoel P. Krigsman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hello... > > > > Wonder if someone can help me with this? > > > > I am trying to get my 2nd monitor work with this Video card. Nvidia > > GeoForce FX 5200 with a VGA cable that has a split to two VGA monitors. > > > > I am able to use BOTH monitor with this cable. > > > > when I am running X server, the 2nd monitor goes to 'sleep'. > > > Odd--I thought running Java would keep it awake. > > Miark > > > > __ > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Samba in Mandrake 9.1
At 03:27 AM 9/26/2003, Derek Jennings said something remarkably like (but somehow subtly different from): To get Samba working all you need to do is set the Workgroup name in the config file. You can do that by GUI simply by installing the drakwizard RPM using your Mandrake Software Manager. Restart Mandrake control Centre and there will be a new 'server' category. Go through the Samba Wizard. At the end of the wizard it tells you to open a terminal. Enter 'su' to become root and then for each user of your system enter smbpasswd -a user_name The user_name must exist in both Linux and Windows. The password given is the **WIndows** password for that user. It does not have to be the same as the Linux password. Afterwards users will be able to access theit /home folders from a Windows computer. Thank you. I think I got this working right, but I am getting errors from my Windows machines. I suspect the problem is now on the Windows side. -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL [EMAIL PROTECTED] "One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that one's work is terribly important." -- Bertrand Russell Help fight SPAM. Join CAUCE. http://www.cauce.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] "Parking" messages in KMail
At 04:40 AM 9/26/2003, Franki said something remarkably like (but somehow subtly different from): What are the top three GUI mail clients in Linux, do you all reckon? Franki: I'd guess: Kmail Evolution Mozilla Mail Many like Sylpheed as well, but I'd guess the three above would be used by the majority. Do you know if any of them do a good job with multiple accounts, keeping them separate? I have been using Eudora for Windows, which I really like. It keeps track of each account as a separate "personality", and if I reply to a message it knows which "personality" received the message, and uses the appropriate return address, signature, etc. I'd like to be able to do that in Linux, if possible. -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL [EMAIL PROTECTED] "One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that one's work is terribly important." -- Bertrand Russell Help fight SPAM. Join CAUCE. http://www.cauce.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Microsoft critic loses job over report
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 September 25, 2003 08:54 pm, James Conner wrote: > Here's a link to the article that the MS critic helped write. > > http://www.crn.com/sections/BreakingNews/dailyarchives.asp?ArticleID=44741 > > Jim > > On Friday 26 September 2003 06:49 am, Charlie M. wrote: > > I'd like a copy, please. > > > > Charlie > > - -- Thanks James; I read it, and aside from the usual "hype" that professional writers use to increase the interest in their work, there's really nothing new in what the reporter said. There may be nothing new in the report either; except for the fact that a few "security professionals" with some standing and weight finally developed the stones to (possibly) codify something that many of us have been aware of, and have alluded to, for years. I'll read the original report as soon as I have a few minutes free of rescuing less than "conscious security awareness" friends and associates from "Swen." Or the current attack of the week; whatever it's called. Thank you for the link James, and thanks HaywireMac for the copy. Regards; Charlie - -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-10mdk 09:43:55 up 5 days, 23:03, 1 user, load average: 0.24, 0.24, 0.34 Insomnia isn't anything to lose sleep over. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/dGDqG11CaRuZZSIRAhmPAKCYhSxodZuGQiepBjHIssoPi+1w0gCfWMxa qdxEVNdlwbNQASgQOObAs/o= =L3F/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Modem connects OK but apps can't locate hosts
> Joe, others are dealing with your problem. Meanwhile, may I refer you > to > http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette > particularly the bit about hijacking. I'm terribly sorry about that; I should have thought of it. Well, here's a new thread anyway. Thanks to everyone who has responded! This problem has been quite frustrating for me. > Joe, what does your /etc/resolv.conf say ? I'm not sure - I'll send this when I get home from work. > Turn shorewall off and try again... perhaps. OK thanks; I hadn't heard of this ... it appears that I just have to 'shorewall stop'? > If you made the above GATEWAYDEV change manually, did you restart your > network afterwards? > > # service network restart Yes, I did and got the same problem. Thanks again - here's my original query: Hi, I've searched the archives and tried some suggestions for similar problems, but without success. Mandrake 9.1 was just installed. I launch KPPP and everything seems to work as the connection is established. However, web browsers fail to load any pages and I can't even ping anything except my own IP that my ISP assigns me dynamically (I've tried IP numbers, not just hostnames, and I've tried both as root and as a regular user). Here's some info that might help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /]# ifconfig loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:294 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:294 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:26414 (25.7 Kb) TX bytes:26414 (25.7 Kb) ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol inet addr:128.101.252.209 P-t-P:128.101.252.1 Mask:255.255.255.255 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:5 errors:3 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:4 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:3 RX bytes:122 (122.0 b) TX bytes:87 (87.0 b) [EMAIL PROTECTED] /]# route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 128.101.252.1 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 00 ppp0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 00 lo 0.0.0.0 128.101.252.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 ppp0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /]# cat /etc/sysconfig/network NETWORKING=yes FORWARD_IPV4=true GATEWAY= GATEWAYDEV=ppp0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /]# cat /etc/ppp/options lock// i've tried removing 'lock' too noauth noipdefault usepeerdns My modem is U.S. Robotics 56K FAX INT V5.0.0. I've also tried with/without 'Use lock file' checked in KPPP's device options. Right now KPPP is set to PAP authentication, to obtain dynamic IP (per ISP's instructions), default gateway and automatic DNS (also tried manually entering ISP's DNS IP). I've tried 'chmod u+s pppd' and 'service network restart' after making some of the above changes. Also, I removed an old ethernet card that wasn't being used in case it was causing a problem with eth0 vs. ppp0. I'd be extremely grateful if someone could help me! Thanks, Joe - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Changing monitor
Hello, I currently use an old 14' CRT monitor and I'd like to change to a new 15' or 17' LCD monitor. I can find information on configuration, but what do I do when I want to switch from one monitor to the other? Do I turn off the computer, make the switch and Mandrake will notice the new monitor at boot and configure it (the checking for new hardware is on at boot). Or should I boot in console mode, without X and configure the new monitor from the console. Can you provide some pointers to the general procedure to follow is such a situation. Thanks, Anguo -- Quote of the day: "Collecting data is only the first step toward wisdom. But sharing data is the first step toward community." IBM advertising about Linux Read more: http://www-3.ibm.com/e-business/doc/content/lp/prodigy.html http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/uncomp/articleshow?msid=164838 http://www.adage.com/news.cms?newsId=38634 http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/09/04/1821217 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Modem connects OK but apps can't locate hosts
On Friday 26 Sep 2003 1:06 pm, Sharrea Day wrote: > On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 19:46, Joe Janzen wrote: > > I've searched the archives and tried some suggestions for similar > > problems, but without success. Mandrake 9.1 was just installed. I > > launch KPPP and everything seems to work as the connection is > > established. However, web browsers fail to load any pages and I can't > > even ping anything except my own IP that my ISP assigns me dynamically > > (I've tried IP numbers, not just hostnames, and I've tried both as root > > and as a regular user). Here's some info that might help: > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] /]# cat /etc/sysconfig/network > > NETWORKING=yes > > FORWARD_IPV4=true > > GATEWAY= > > GATEWAYDEV=ppp0 > > If you made the above GATEWAYDEV change manually, did you restart your > network afterwards? > > # service network restart > > What is in /etc/resolv.conf? Ummm... can't think of anything else... > > Sharrea How about the interface in the Shorewall config? /etc/shorewall/interfaces Is the net interface set to ppp0 ? derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] an apology, WAS: Ford Motor Co. opens arms to Linux!
On Thu, 2003-09-25 at 17:16, Heather/Femme wrote: > On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 21:31:51 -0400 > Heather/Femme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, 24 Sep 2003 11:36:48 -0700 > > Aron Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Snipped it all > > > > Can YOU PLEASE get this OFF the fucking newbie list!? > > > > take it OT, offline I don't care... > > > > Please...ty. > > > > Femmastoned > > > I must apologize for my outburst on this list earlier... I am quite > appalled at my own language & that reckless bit of flaming tripe. > > Most everyone on the other forums I frequnt know I flame in extremely > rare circumstances. Takes alot to get me angry or wantto flame someone. > > *sigh* Problem: my morphine has this wonderful side effect that > ensures I have mood swings & / or am extremely irritable & even the > tiniest thing sets me off on a rant. > > As I said, I do apologize to all on this list for my childish & angry > behaviour. I hope no one was offended. > > A chastened, > Femme We love you anyway ;-) > > > __ > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Very basic bash question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I studied the bash documentation reasonably thoroughly, including man mv and info mv, but I haven`t found the answer to this; so I am hoping for a simple answer here: Often I am in /home/dvg/foo and want to move files from /home/dvg/foo/bar to ~/foo. I can`t find a command shortcut to do this. Until now I have had to work around by: cd bar mv file* .. s (=alias for cd ..) Naturally I could have done: mv /bar/file* ~/foo, but sometimes my current prompt is several levels down and I prefer to keep it short and simple. I`m sure there is an easier way. TIA for your answer. Regards, =Dick Gevers= .> Mandrake visibility? See headers... <. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Encryption is an envelope - the contents are private. iD8DBQE/dFb8wC/zk+cxEdMRAum9AJ92+9vZGP/8NSxZki68DxnZm83Q6QCgoIif aGogvymnC5ixKS4qwm3Cmk8= =nRjw -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Microsoft critic loses job over report
On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 00:00, HaywireMac wrote: > On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 07:30:16 +0100 > Margot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > > > This is disgusting, disgraceful...there are plenty more words I could > > use, but I'm sure you all know them... haven't they ever heard of > > "freedom of speech"? > > if you had a kazillion dollar empire, and someone published a paper > saying how you'd built said kazillion dollar empire on a pile of shite, > what would you do? 1. buy them off or 2.put out a contract on them. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] an apology, WAS: Ford Motor Co. opens arms to Linux!
On Thu, 2003-09-25 at 20:50, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > On Thursday 25 September 2003 11:42 pm, Charlie M. wrote: > > > > > If Heather were really angry the difference would probably be > > unquestionable. > > > > Regards; > > Charlie > > AND there would be a body count from the frags OMG Femme as a Nuclear Power .. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Clearing URL-history in Konqueror Web Browser?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Mogens, Kaj and others, On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:06:33 +, Kaj Haulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about Re: [newbie] Clearing URL-history in Konqueror Web Browser?: >> > I don't seem to be able to clear the list of visited URLs in >> > Konqueror. Can anyone please tell me how to do this? >Right-click the address line, select "Empty content". Or, selectively: PF9 displays the navigation bar, click on the appropriate icon and sanitize what you want and leave at will. HTH Best regards, =Dick Gevers= -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Encryption is an envelope - the contents are private. iD8DBQE/dFSewC/zk+cxEdMRAj+YAKCo19U6PiiY/vUnWTo8tWH1wVbi4QCgy9Lf gXbzrKZiT80kKxolVVMqFig= =sc2o -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] keep password broken?
Hi Anne, Friday, September 26, 2003, 7:38:23 PM, you wrote: AW> On Friday 26 Sep 2003 10:27 am, Lance Cummings wrote: >> File manager su mode and Mandrake Control Center both prompt for >> root's secret of course. And both have a check box to keep the >> password. My experience is that this check box don't mean a thing. >> >> Anyone else? >> >> Lance AW> Have you thought that keeping your password means that absolutely AW> anyone who can get near your computer can become root? Sure. But absolutely no one can get near my computer. ^_^ And I do mean no one. Lance Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CD-writer fails with CD-R but not CD-RW
On Thu, 2003-09-25 at 11:55, John Richard Smith wrote: > The test files were assembled with mkisofs along the lines you mention. They write out to the CD-RW OK. > then write to disc > > tmp]$ cdrecord -v speed=4 dev=0,0,0 -eject -ignsize /tmp.iso > (where dev=0,0,0 is whatever it should be on your system, ie cdrecord > -scanbus, and speed is whatever is appropiate for your device) > I've used your cdrecord command - no joy.It's slightly different from the one I used (cdrecord -v speed=2 dev=0,0,0 -data /tmp.iso) There is a slight difference in the output at Sense Code: here - Sense Code: 0x0C Qual 0x00 (write error) Fru 0x0 whereas it was - Sense Code: 0x73 Qual 0x03 (power calibration area error) Fru 0x0 I wondered whether that might mean cdrecord's power settings for CD-Rs on the Sony CDwriter were incorrect, whereas they were satisfactory for writing CD-RWs. What do you think? DougB "cdrecord -v speed=2 dev=0,0,0 -eject -ignsize corrimage Cdrecord 2.0 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg Schilling TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM scsidev: '0,0,0' scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0 Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24 Using libscg version 'schily-0.7' atapi: 1 Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 0 Response Format: 1 Vendor_info: 'SONY' Identifikation : 'CD-RW CRX175E2 ' Revision : 'S002' Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW. Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : MMC-2 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE FORCESPEED Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R96R Drive buf size : 1359872 = 1328 KB FIFO size : 4194304 = 4096 KB Track 01: data 0 MB padsize: 312 KB Total size:0 MB (00:04.02) = 302 sectors Lout start:1 MB (00:06/02) = 302 sectors Current Secsize: 2048 ATIP info from disk: Indicated writing power: 4 Is not unrestricted Is not erasable Disk sub type: Medium Type A, low Beta category (A-) (2) ATIP start of lead in: -12508 (97:15/17) ATIP start of lead out: 359848 (79:59/73) Disk type:Short strategy type (Phthalocyanine or similar) Manuf. index: 22 Manufacturer: Ritek Co. Blocks total: 359848 Blocks current: 359848 Blocks remaining: 359546 Forcespeed is OFF. Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 4 in real TAO mode for single session. Last chance to quit, starting real write0 seconds. Operation starts. Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready. BURN-Free is ON. Turning BURN-Free off Performing OPC... Starting new track at sector: 0 Track 01:0 of0 MB written. Track 01: writing 312 KB of pad data. Track 01: Total bytes read/written: 294912/614400 (300 sectors). cdrecord: Input/output error. flush cache: scsi sendcmd: no error CDB: 35 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 03 00 00 00 00 0C 00 00 00 00 0C 00 00 00 Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x0C Qual 0x00 (write error) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) cmd finished after 5.073s timeout 120s Trouble flushing the cache Writing time: 15.920s Average write speed 0.8x. Fixating... cdrecord: Input/output error. close track/session: scsi sendcmd: no error CDB: 5B 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 70 00 03 00 00 00 00 0C 00 00 00 00 0C 00 00 00 Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x0C Qual 0x00 (write error) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) cmd finished after 40.434s timeout 480s cmd finished after 40.434s timeout 480s Fixating time: 40.438s cdrecord: fifo had 5 puts and 5 gets. cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 0 times full, min fill was 100%" The only difference. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
GOT IT! Re: [newbie] help with palm m130! (and JPilot)
On Friday 26 September 2003 03:43, you wrote: > On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 21:08:09 -0300 TKS! I got to fix this trouble without the patch! I just "followed" the instructions at: http://www.linuxpda.com/visor/howto/current/ which you sent me! I've just applied the recommended changes to /dev/usb/ttsUSB0 (andUSB1) instead the other device mknod and that was it! Syncing fine and fast!!! Using Kpilot 'cause it just pops up when I sync! Tks again! Ricardo Castanho > Ricardo Castanho de Oliveira Freitas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > uttered: > > But I am still hold on a error message: > > > > kernel: visor.c: Device lied about number of ports. use a lower one. > > > > Do you happen to know what this is all about? > > I'm not sure offhand, but it seems like a relativlely common problem, > possibly a bug in the kernel driver. > > http://www.google.ca/linux?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=kernel%3A+visor.c%3A+Devic >e+lied+about+number+of+ports.+use+a+lower+one.&btnG=Google+Search&meta= -- == Linux user # 102240 => [EMAIL PROTECTED] user => [EMAIL PROTECTED] == AntiVir for UNIX Copyright (C) 1994-2002 by H+BEDV Datentechnik GmbH. All rights reserved. For more information see http://www.antivir.de/ or http://www.hbedv.com/ Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:35:00 -0300 09:35:00 up 21:08, 5 users, load average: 1.11, 1.23, 1.19 Time is fluid ... like a river with currents, eddies, backwash. -- Spock, "The City on the Edge of Forever", stardate 3134.0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Modem connects OK but apps can't locate hosts
On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 19:46, Joe Janzen wrote: > I've searched the archives and tried some suggestions for similar > problems, but without success. Mandrake 9.1 was just installed. I > launch KPPP and everything seems to work as the connection is > established. However, web browsers fail to load any pages and I can't > even ping anything except my own IP that my ISP assigns me dynamically > (I've tried IP numbers, not just hostnames, and I've tried both as root > and as a regular user). Here's some info that might help: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] /]# cat /etc/sysconfig/network > NETWORKING=yes > FORWARD_IPV4=true > GATEWAY= > GATEWAYDEV=ppp0 If you made the above GATEWAYDEV change manually, did you restart your network afterwards? # service network restart What is in /etc/resolv.conf? Ummm... can't think of anything else... Sharrea -- Help Microsoft stamp out piracy - give Linux to a friend today Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Clearing URL-history in Konqueror Web Browser?
Hi Kaj, Easy once you know how to! Thanks a lot. Mogens > On Friday 26 September 2003 02:03 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > On Friday 26 September 2003 11:38 am, Mogens Neupart wrote: > > > Hi there, > > > > > > I don't seem to be able to clear the list of visited URLs in > > > Konqueror. Can anyone please tell me how to do this? > > > > > > Best wishes and thank you in advance > > > > > > Mogens > > > > Mogens, højreklik på adressefeltet --> "Clear". > > > > Kaj Haulrich. > > In reply to my own foolishnes : > > Right-click the address line, select "Empty content". > > Sorry > > Kaj Haulrich Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Clearing URL-history in Konqueror Web Browser?
On Friday 26 September 2003 02:03 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > On Friday 26 September 2003 11:38 am, Mogens Neupart wrote: > > Hi there, > > > > I don't seem to be able to clear the list of visited URLs in > > Konqueror. Can anyone please tell me how to do this? > > > > Best wishes and thank you in advance > > > > Mogens > > Mogens, højreklik på adressefeltet --> "Clear". > > Kaj Haulrich. In reply to my own foolishnes : Right-click the address line, select "Empty content". Sorry Kaj Haulrich -- *This mail was sent from a 100 % Microsoft free computer* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Clearing URL-history in Konqueror Web Browser?
On Friday 26 September 2003 11:38 am, Mogens Neupart wrote: > Hi there, > > I don't seem to be able to clear the list of visited URLs in > Konqueror. Can anyone please tell me how to do this? > > Best wishes and thank you in advance > > Mogens Mogens, højreklik på adressefeltet --> "Clear". Kaj Haulrich. -- *This mail was sent from a 100 % Microsoft free computer* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] clipboard integration with Mozilla
On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 10:00, Lance Cummings wrote: > Does this (not) work for anyone else? > > 1) Open your mail client (hopefully KMail so we can test this > properly). > > 2) Copy the URL for the MS critic article to the clipboard. > > 3) Now open Mozilla and try to paste this clipboard item into the > Mozilla address window. Not sure if you're only interested in one-off opening of e-mail URLs or in a regular switch to a default browser. If the latter, maybe there is an equivalent in KDE to the one in Gnome. My e-mail client (Evolution) defaults to Mozilla, but you can vary this by editing /home/user-name/.gnome/Gnome and changing the line containing "default-show= ." to default-show=your-preferred-browser-name "%s". 'dillo' is very lightweight. I've found it particularly useful for quick checking of e-mail URLs without all the overhead of the heavy duty browsers on a dial-up line. DougB Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Microsoft critic loses job over report
On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 12:50, John Richard Smith wrote: > > > Delia Smith, > > richest woman on earth, made her money writing cookery books. > > Hey maybe we should get gates and her together, maybe she could cook his > goose. I would doubt that Dehlia is in that wealth category [:¬) -- Nadger - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #169184 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Clearing URL-history in Konqueror Web Browser?
Hi there, I don't seem to be able to clear the list of visited URLs in Konqueror. Can anyone please tell me how to do this? Best wishes and thank you in advance Mogens Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages
Rather than directing a newbie to the man page, it's often better to recommend the info page. OK, sometimes there is no info page and sometimes it's identical to the man page, but frequently they have more explanation and, most usefully, example commands. Later, of course, we'll be able to just type RTFT (Read The Fine Twiki) ;-) Sir Robin -- "I can say: 'Thank these bees for their honey as though they were kind people who have prepared it for you'; that is intelligible and describes how I should like you to conduct yourself. But I cannot say: 'Thank them because, look, how kind they are!'--since the next moment they may sting you. - Wittgenstein Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Microsoft critic loses job over report
On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 10:33, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > It's being proven over and over and over again - freedom is nonexistent. > You cannot speak out against either the US government or a US business > that generates as much money as Microsoft does. George Bush has > solidified that in his tenure. Individual rights do not exist either. > There IS no such thing as a "democratic vote" or "democracy". This is > only an external manifestation of that reality. Get used to it. > > stephen kuhn - owner This, believe it or not, includes agriculture. In most of the US it is against the law to criticise farming methods (inc. battery farming, GMs, use of antibiotics in food, etc. etc) & then they involve the WTO in 'restrictive practices ' if the rest of the world complains. Paul M Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Microsoft critic loses job over report
HaywireMac wrote: Please name me *one* kazillion dollar empire that *wasn't* built on greed and shameless exploitation... Delia Smith, richest woman on earth, made her money writing cookery books. Hey maybe we should get gates and her together, maybe she could cook his goose. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] clipboard integration with Mozilla
On Friday 26 Sep 2003 10:33 am, Raffaele Belardi wrote: > nope, sorry. > It does work for me. However, I do find that sometimes I have to do the click twice to make it take. Also, sometimes the clipboard seems to lose focus. Have you opened the clipboard and made sure that the url is ticked? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] keep password broken?
On Friday 26 Sep 2003 10:27 am, Lance Cummings wrote: > File manager su mode and Mandrake Control Center both prompt for > root's secret of course. And both have a check box to keep the > password. My experience is that this check box don't mean a thing. > > Anyone else? > > Lance Have you thought that keeping your password means that absolutely anyone who can get near your computer can become root? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Rant: The man pages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I used to press ctrl+C, and wondered why linux said that there were stopped jobs everytime I shutdown it. ;p It was not long ago that someone told me to press "q" to quit the man pages ;p On Wednesday 24 September 2003 07:37 pm, Charles A Edwards wrote: > Not to mention how long it took to find out how to get the terminal back > after doing > $ man > > Charles - -- Fajar http://linux.arinet.org Linux mdk91.sistek.kom 2.4.21-0.13mdk GNU/Linux 17:34:31 up 5:59, 10 users, load average: 1.41, 1.34, 1.45 Quote of the day: Windows - what do you want to crash today? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/dBbAUrYxG8KGMVERAlErAJwKA4RPrIsjrIQPGcBGiL4ZYdZCSACeIay2 GGk9dsU8PVGptlzztMvDUqc= =VIRY -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Microsoft critic loses job over report
On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:21:08 +0100 Margot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > > Of course, there are two sides to every story... > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,1049085,00.html > > So Bill's really a Saint, yeah? There's no doubt in my mind that Bill Gates thinks what he's doing in general, business-wise and otherwise, is "OK". He thinks Windows is a viable, user-friendly, all-American OS and he's just trying to make the world a better place. I applaud his intentions insofar as donating kazillions of dollars to fight world hunger, the problem is he just doesn't get it. All of this is for nought, when companies like his just keep sucking money upward into a huge capitalist black hole. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ What sane person could live in this world and not be crazy? -- Ursula K. LeGuin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] "Parking" messages in KMail
On Friday 26 Sep 2003 9:40 am, Franki wrote: > Lance Cummings wrote: > >Anyone know if it is possible to 'park' a message in KMail? > > > >(means setting a cannot-delete flag on a particular message so that > >it cannot accidentally be nuked via the delete key, nor can a folder > >containing a thusly marked message be deleted until it is either > >moved out or un-flagged) > > > >KMail is not too bad, otherwise. It is considerably slower than The > >Bat! on Windows (if you do need to run a Windows mail client, that > >one is a dandy, written in Delphi) but KMail is not slower enough to > >be a real bother, just noticeable when deleting and when it does its > >cleanup after closing. My mail database in Windows is rather > >sizeable however (multi-account and more than 25,000 messages and > >attachments), and my mail database in Linux is miniscule, so it will > >be interesting to see if KMail slows down much as the database > >grows. > > > >What are the top three GUI mail clients in Linux, do you all reckon? > > Franki: > > I'd guess: > Kmail > Evolution > Mozilla Mail > > Many like Sylpheed as well, but I'd guess the three above would be used > by the majority. > > I was going to try using moz mail on a fat32 partition to see if I could > have moz linux and moz winblows use the same data, address book etc.. > > Instead I decided to swap to IMAP and just use evolution on linux and > thunderbird (mozilla mail) on windows. > > rgds > > Franki KMail does not have that 'parking' feature. What I do is remove the 'Delete' button from the tool bar, so I can only put mails in the Trash where they can be recovered again. The Trash can be configured to retain mails for a configurable period. derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Modem connects OK but apps can't locate hosts
On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 10:07:42 + Kaj Haulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 26 September 2003 07:46 am, Joe Janzen wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I've searched the archives and tried some suggestions for > > similar problems, but without success. Mandrake 9.1 was just > > installed. I launch KPPP and everything seems to work as the > > connection is established. However, web browsers fail to load > > any pages and I can't even ping anything except my own IP that > > my ISP assigns me dynamically (I've tried IP numbers, not just > > hostnames, and I've tried both as root and as a regular user). > > > > > Joe, what does your /etc/resolv.conf say ? Mine looks like this : > > search opasia.dk local > nameserver 127.0.0.1 > nameserver 193.162.153.164 > nameserver 194.239.134.83 > > Try to edit yours with the appropriate URL's for your domain. > Alternatively I guess you can use my nameservers. > > Good luck > > Kaj Haulrich. > -- > *This mail was sent from a 100 % Microsoft free computer* > > Turn shorewall off and try again... perhaps. -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Microsoft critic loses job over report
On Friday 26 Sep 2003 8:35 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 16:30, HaywireMac wrote: > > On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:50:36 +1000 > > > > Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > > > Who says you can't buy an opinion or create the idea of > > > security? If you've got more than enough money, you can even > > > kill off your critics! > > > > > > http://www.msnbc.com/news/971914.asp?0si=- > > > > Did you read his report? It was reeaaally scathing, no wonder > > Billy was pissed. > > > > I have the .pdf if you want it. > > I've read the report and all the articles associated with it. > Scathing is a small word in comparison to the reality. I'm sure > that Microsoft is going to quash all possibilities of this article > leaking out to the public in general. It's our job to make sure > they don't and/or can't make this "go away" or become > "invisible"... > As it will be suppressed if at all possible I have emailed both the article and .pdf to a friend in the states. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] keep password broken?
On Friday 26 Sep 2003 10:27 am, Lance Cummings wrote: > File manager su mode and Mandrake Control Center both prompt for > root's secret of course. And both have a check box to keep the > password. My experience is that this check box don't mean a thing. > > Anyone else? > > Lance It does not keep the password for ever. Just for 60 mins (I think) If you open up another instance and instead of giving the password press 'Ignore', then the window will open. derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] clipboard integration with Mozilla
On Friday 26 Sep 2003 10:00 am, Lance Cummings wrote: > Does this (not) work for anyone else? > > 1) Open your mail client (hopefully KMail so we can test this > properly). > > 2) Copy the URL for the MS critic article to the clipboard. > > 3) Now open Mozilla and try to paste this clipboard item into the > Mozilla address window. > > Doesn't work for me -- repeatedly. 'Paste' is not even available in > Mozilla in this case (grayed out). Have no idea here if the problem > is KMail or Mozilla, or something else. > > Double clicking on the URL launches Konqueror of course, and I'd love > to change that to Mozilla if anyone will share the trick. Konqueror > promptly launched a pop up ad from that MSNBC site, something I > don't have to see in Windows since I have them all blocked. (Also, > Konqueror seems much less 'finished' than Mozilla, and seems to have > real trouble with some pages that Mozilla handles easily). I > understand Mozilla has a built in popup blocker, so I want to use it > for that and other reasons. > Copy/Paste --- Copy /paste using the 'Edit' menu does not necessarily work between applications that use different toolkits ie kmail and mozilla. But the method of copy/paste that works everywhere in Linux is 'highlight' with mouse/ click mouse wheel. Once you get used to it Windows will seem clumsy by comparison. Default Actions --- To change default actions in KDE open the KDE ControlCentre>Components>ComponentsChooser To change the default application to handle a file type KDEControlCentre>DileAssociations search for the file type you want to change and put your favourite app at the top of the list. PoP ups In Mozilla/Firebird/Opera there are options to suppress pop ups or open them in background. Not sure about Konqueror. In any case I get rid of pop ups by using 'privoxy' (It is in the 'contrib' folder on any Mandrake mirror) With privoxy installed point your browsers to port 8118 Privoxy will block pop ups and adverts configurable per site. It is *very* good www.privoxy.org derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] clipboard integration with Mozilla
nope, sorry. raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 26 September 2003 18:14, Raffaele Belardi wrote: Try this: - highlight the link keeping left mouse button pressed - switch to mozilla - in the address bar, press mouse middle button It is an X feature (I think), it should work for all applications, though sometimes it does not with StarOffice. A secret of X revealed Raffaele. Thanks. Do you know how to get Mozilla to fire instead of Konqueror when double-clicking one of these? Lance Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] clipboard integration with Mozilla
On Friday 26 September 2003 18:14, Raffaele Belardi wrote: > Try this: > > - highlight the link keeping left mouse button pressed > - switch to mozilla > - in the address bar, press mouse middle button > > It is an X feature (I think), it should work for all applications, > though sometimes it does not with StarOffice. A secret of X revealed Raffaele. Thanks. Do you know how to get Mozilla to fire instead of Konqueror when double-clicking one of these? Lance Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] taskbar design?
I have two problems with the taskbar in KDE 3.1. 1) some applications open with the titlebar under the taskbar when the taskbar is at the top of the screen This also is a bug in XP, at least on my machine. I keep my taskbar at the top of the screen, a la Mac style. For me, the extension of the fingers to move the cursor up is a much easier movement on the hand and wrist than the contraction to go down-left. What has become the "normal" "start button" location is about the ergonomically worst possible position for me. But there ya go, and some apps open with titlebars under the taskbar. I doubt this happens with the taskbar at the bottom -- it doesn't in Windows either. 2) the identifying text on taskbar buttons fades out on the right side of the button Can't believe this is by design, but it must be. Doesn't matter the app, the text is fine for the left-most 85 percent or so of the button, then fades fast. Ugly as sin IMHO. Where the title of the application is short (does not fill the button), there is no problem. But if the title extends to the right side of the button, the text fades out. Lance Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] keep password broken?
File manager su mode and Mandrake Control Center both prompt for root's secret of course. And both have a check box to keep the password. My experience is that this check box don't mean a thing. Anyone else? Lance Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] XFCE 4 is released
Hello everyone, if you have not noticed XFCE 4 is now released in a sharp version. Cheers Anders Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Microsoft critic loses job over report -PDF POSTED
On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 18:07:35 +1000 Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > > Ok...have to get offa my arse on this one - I've put it up on my > website so that y'all don't have to dig for it - or have it RANDOMLY > get lost or quashed in the interim. Here y'all go: > > http://thor.prohosting.com/~kilgoret/files/cyberinsecurity.pdf > > > ...along with some other bits'n'bobs there... > > Cheers and beers and be nice to the queers! Holy shite, I can hear *my* server thrashing like crazy, LOL! The load average just shot up like a bugger, if it was IIS it woulda crashed by now... -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ Given a choice between grief and nothing, I'd choose grief. -- William Faulkner Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] "Parking" messages in KMail
Anyone know if it is possible to 'park' a message in KMail? (means setting a cannot-delete flag on a particular message so that it cannot accidentally be nuked via the delete key, nor can a folder containing a thusly marked message be deleted until it is either moved out or un-flagged) KMail is not too bad, otherwise. It is considerably slower than The Bat! on Windows (if you do need to run a Windows mail client, that one is a dandy, written in Delphi) but KMail is not slower enough to be a real bother, just noticeable when deleting and when it does its cleanup after closing. My mail database in Windows is rather sizeable however (multi-account and more than 25,000 messages and attachments), and my mail database in Linux is miniscule, so it will be interesting to see if KMail slows down much as the database grows. What are the top three GUI mail clients in Linux, do you all reckon? Lance Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Microsoft critic loses job over report
Here's a link to the article that the MS critic helped write. http://www.crn.com/sections/BreakingNews/dailyarchives.asp?ArticleID=44741 Jim On Friday 26 September 2003 06:49 am, Charlie M. wrote: > > I'd like a copy, please. > > Charlie > - -- -- 2:01am up 8 days, 18:58, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Running Mandrake 9.0 - Linux - because life is too short for reboots... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] PDF: Cyber Insecurity - the report by CCIA on Microsoft in PDF format
As everyone's rambling for it, scrambling for it and freaking out...:) http://thor.prohosting.com/~kilgoret/files/cyberinsecurity.pdf Cheers! stephen kuhn - owner == illawarra computer services a kuhn media australia company http://kma.0catch.com -- * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * We expressly refuse to utilise Microsoft DRM encoded documents -- First love is only a little foolishness and a lot of curiosity, no really self-respecting woman would take advantage of it. -- George Bernard Shaw, "John Bull's Other Island" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Microsoft critic loses job over report
On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 02:30:46 -0400 HaywireMac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > > > Who says you can't buy an opinion or create the idea of security? If > > you've got more than enough money, you can even kill off your > > critics! > > > > http://www.msnbc.com/news/971914.asp?0si=- > > Did you read his report? It was reeaaally scathing, no wonder Billy > was pissed. > > I have the .pdf if you want it. Okay for anyone that wants it: www.orderinchaos.org/monoculture.pdf this will be a test, my poor little webserver might not hold up! (P166) -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake HowTo's & More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org ++ That that is is that that is not is not. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
