Rif: [newbie-it] Sony Vaio GRT816M e Gnu/Linux
Anche se con PC differente dal tuo ho avuto gli stessi problemi per quanto riguarda Mandrake, l'alternativa l'ho trovata in RedHat 9.0 che mi consente effettuare l'installazione tranquillamente. Nota: quando ti chiede il tipo di installazione scrivi linux nomce ide=nodma pci=off in questo modo non si blocca in fase di installazione. Per ora è tutto. Ciao Monica
[newbie-it] icewm e icone
Ciao a tutti. Una domandina: è possibile mettere delle icone sul desktop di icewm? E, se si, come si fa? __ Yahoo! Mail: 6MB di spazio gratuito, 30MB per i tuoi allegati, l'antivirus, il filtro Anti-spam http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://it.mail.yahoo.com/
[newbie-it] Bandwith limit
Salve a tutti, cosa mi consigliate come software semplice per limitare la banda sotto mandrake 9.1? Grazie mille [Gnomix]
Re: [newbie-it] Bandwith limit
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 13 November 2003 14:37, you wrote: Salve a tutti, cosa mi consigliate come software semplice per limitare la banda sotto mandrake 9.1? Grazie mille [Gnomix] Per scaricare e basta? Allora dx come programma per downloadare: puoi settare la banda massima per ogni situazione (verde= illimitata, giallo e rosso personalizzabili) - -- Gli elementi più comuni nell'universo sono l'idrogeno e la stupidità. Anonimo Tschüß! Chiave pubblica gpg(0xF90C2294) disponibile sul keyserver -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/s5ZArUONsfkMIpQRAu1SAJ9qS9Ix+zuvGs8Mjk26+p+7HJZP3wCZAU56 fd1F/Hn3k5f8puj2MobUEOg= =5OGS -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [newbie-it] Sony Vaio GRT816M e Gnu/Linux
Grazie miKe, non conoscevo il sito mobilix andro' a vedere se trovo qualcosa. Ciao Walter. Il mer, 2003-11-12 alle 21:41, miKe ha scritto: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alle 23:00, mercoledì 12 novembre 2003, in merito a [newbie-it] Sony Vaio GRT816M e Gnu/Linux , Walter ha scritto a [EMAIL PROTECTED] : ho un problema. Sto cercando di installare la Mandrake 9.2 su un portatile Sony Vaio GRT816M ma l'installazione si blocca credo sulla rilevazione delle porte USB, la stessa cosa succede con la Mandrake 9.1. C'e' nessuno che sa consigliarmi una distribuzione che possa funzionare con il Sony o che sappia come eseguire l'installazione. Fino ad ora utilizzo un Dell Inspiron 8000 senza nessun problema. Vorrei fosse lo stesso con il Sony. cerca su linux-laptop o su mobilix, c'è un db howto su di portatili e distribuzioni varie Grazie in anticipo. Walter. - -- bye miKe ^ Slackware 8.1 GNU/Linux 2.4.22--jl12 @ ASUS S1N 1330c R.U.219755 - S.R.U.705 - R.M.110932 - MajaGLUG Member -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/sqkKF/9fksDJ4y0RApjlAKCu09CQ2pC3Vws2gSpZQVijCt7wygCgwb7T fu4tRIb0LBFdOeNpiji2jlI= =PMMB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Comincia a correre! Tapis roulant, cyclette, spin bike e tanto altro ti attendono! Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=2041d=12-11
Re: [newbie-it] icewm e icone
Non penso che rientri nella filosofia del progetto, ma puoi sempre aprirti konqueror, alla directory Desktop trovi le icone e i collegamenti che ti sei fatta su kde. Icewm è bello così,leggero e impalpabile, se ti piace scaricati IceWMCP, un control manager non in bundle con mdk che ti permette di fare molte più cose che con l'Icepref in dotazione CIao Alfredo lori cava wrote: Ciao a tutti. Una domandina: è possibile mettere delle icone sul desktop di icewm? E, se si, come si fa? __ Yahoo! Mail: 6MB di spazio gratuito, 30MB per i tuoi allegati, l'antivirus, il filtro Anti-spam http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://it.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [newbie] Kernel 2.6 *almost* trojaned
On Thursday 13 November 2003 01:33 am, Melissa Reese wrote: Or maybe too many eyes looking in the wrong directions. My sister works at MS, and she's under the impression that everyone there is cross-eyed. :-) I just wish they were tongue-tied as well...wy too much coming out of Redmond these days about Linux. (well actually, I guess thats a good sign!) grin -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT Windows crashes BMW's?
On November 12, 2003 06:07 pm, Aron Smith wrote: On Wednesday 12 November 2003 03:20 pm, John Wilson wrote: snip Ahhh, ain't M$ grand! Pay $80,000 for a shiny new beamer and it dies because CE hiccups. Can you imagine that happening on one of the freeways around LA? wicked grin Though I have heard that BMW is going to dump CE. I wonder why? ttfn John Excuse me I thought that code was Assembly code Could be, but MS is trumpeting it as Windows CE. ttfn John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Display flickers on laptop ( F-siemens Amilo D 6820 - Ati radeon mobility 9000 vga )
Dear Friends, I installed Madrake 9.2 on my fujitsu - siemens amilo D 6820 notebook. Almost everything fine but the monitor flickers but it is robust on XP with 1024 * 768 @ 60 hz.Mandrake shows my monitor ( display ) as flat panel 1024 * 768 . I am using Xfree 4.3 with 3d acceleration and my vga card is 32 Mb Ati radeon mobility 9000 . What should I do ? Thanks.. Hertas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT Windows crashes BMW's?
John Wilson wrote: On November 12, 2003 06:07 pm, Aron Smith wrote: On Wednesday 12 November 2003 03:20 pm, John Wilson wrote: snip Ahhh, ain't M$ grand! Pay $80,000 for a shiny new beamer and it dies because CE hiccups. Can you imagine that happening on one of the freeways around LA? wicked grin Though I have heard that BMW is going to dump CE. I wonder why? ttfn John Excuse me I thought that code was Assembly code Could be, but MS is trumpeting it as Windows CE. CE = Car Engine? This old joke has been doing the rounds for a while, but I think it is worth repeating in this context: There are three engineers in a car; an electrical engineer, a chemical engineer and a Microsoft engineer. Suddenly the car just stops by the side of the road, and the three engineers look at each other wondering what could be wrong. The electrical engineer suggests stripping down the electronics of the car and trying to trace where a fault might have occurred. The chemical engineer, not knowing much about cars, suggests that maybe the fuel is becoming emulsified and getting blocked somewhere. Then, the Microsoft engineer, not knowing much about anything, comes up with a suggestion: If we close all the windows, get out, get back in, then open the windows again, maybe it'll work!? Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 minor niggles - SOLVED
Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 12 November 2003 02:28 pm, Margot wrote: I can't get the 'Lock Screen' button to work - little blue button with a white padlock. Click on it and nothing happens! I used to use this a lot, when leaving the computer unattended while something is running - essential feature for cat-owners! I just added it to my kicker and it works here. Try removing it and adding it again. Right click on kicker and choose add = applet and select 'lock/logout applet' This didn't work last night, but I tried the 'lock' again after switching on the computer this morning and both versions (kicker and menu) are now working! Maybe it just needed another reboot? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Macromeida flash plug-in installation on mozilla - I did something wrong !!
Dear Friends , I dowloaded macromedia flash plug-in from Macromedia's site and installed it. Eveything seems fine with the installation. Plug - in was installed in myusername/home/.mozilla/ . But when I enter a site including flash , still it can not be seen.!! How can I activate it ? Or is my installation faulty. ??? Hertas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] video file conversions
what would you recomend for converting video files in Linux? I know of avidemux .. but I'm having problems with it .. what I want to do right now is take an avi with divx raw wave and convert it into divx mp3 for audio. Any other options other than avidemux? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT Windows crashes BMW's?
*** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 11/12/2003 at 7:58 PM Phil Newcombe wrote: I don't get these business egg-heads - the _proven_ most reliable operating system on the planet is *Free* and they choose to go with the _proven_ most bug-ridden software available and pay through the nose for it!!! Brother... pn Phil; It just goes to show you that even the wealthiest, smartest, powerful people on this planet are terrified of change! Go Figure! Lanman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Macromeida flash plug-in installation on mozilla - I did something wrong !!
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:13:49 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Friends , I dowloaded macromedia flash plug-in from Macromedia's site and installed it. Eveything seems fine with the installation. Plug - in was installed in myusername/home/.mozilla/ . But when I enter a site including flash , still it can not be seen.!! How can I activate it ? Or is my installation faulty.??? Hertas it should be installed at /usr/lib/mozilla-1.x/ (where x is your mozilla version.. be it 1.3, 1.4, 1.5...) HTH Jerry. -- _||_ Registered linux user #300600 (o_ Registered linux machine # 185855 //\at V_/_ http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] video file conversions
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 11:19:16 +0200 Anarky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what would you recomend for converting video files in Linux? I know of avidemux .. but I'm having problems with it .. what I want to do right now is take an avi with divx raw wave and convert it into divx mp3 for audio. Any other options other than avidemux? urpmi gmencoder HTH Jerry -- _||_ Registered linux user #300600 (o_ Registered linux machine # 185855 //\at V_/_ http://counter.li.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] video file conversions
Anarky wrote: what would you recomend for converting video files in Linux? I know of avidemux .. but I'm having problems with it .. what I want to do right now is take an avi with divx raw wave and convert it into divx mp3 for audio. Any other options other than avidemux? I'm sure mencoder, part of mplayer can do that , though I haven't actually done it myself. I believe it can convert audio to og vorbis. Is this a home movie, most DVD's are already mp3. John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] EXPORT command
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, Where does all the variable go if I do some export commands, for example when I do EXPORT MAILUSER=me and EXPORT MAILHOST=some.tld, where all those settings go? Can I see it in somekind of configuration files? My friend told me that it is stored in /etc/profiles, but I don't see any of the setting there. Where is it? Thanks. - -- Fajar http://linux.arinet.org Linux mdk91.sistek.kom 2.4.21-0.13mdk GNU/Linux 17:53:29 up 10:19, 10 users, load average: 2.99, 0.81, 0.38 Quote of the day: Windows found - Remove? (Y)es (S)ure (F)ine (O)K (M)ake it so -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/s2M8Mai9kCFqACoRAmA5AJ41AkNCHGnXA5qunUePYYAL5f3m/QCgg3GT T44OFlpll+XQ7V7+DcONAgI= =tcB8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] The name of show desktop process ??
Hello there What is the name of process (command) that makesshow desktop work ??? and where is it ?? Thanks Hertas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT Windows crashes BMW's?
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 20:41, Todd Slater wrote: This was a good chuckle. USA Today has a piece about problems with the computers in certain BMW's--a cd player that spits cd's at passengers, engines that shut down while running at highway speeds etc. Now, didn't BMW choose Microsoft for that system? There was a story widely reported in the papers here in Thailand about a Government minister who was locked inside his BMW when it stopped on the highway. Eventually someone had to smash the window with a sledgehammer and he got out. http://asia.cnet.com/newstech/systems/0,39001153,39130270,00.htm http://www.google.co.th/search?q=bmw+minister+thailandie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8hl=enbtnG=Google+Searchmeta= -- Merlin Zener Piano, Synthesizer Thailand. registered Linux user number 328618 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Macromeida flash plug-in installation on mozilla - I did something wrong !!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Friends , I dowloaded macromedia flash plug-in from Macromedia's site and installed it. Eveything seems fine with the installation. Plug - in was installed in myusername/home/.mozilla/ . But when I enter a site including flash , still it can not be seen.!! How can I activate it ? Or is my installation faulty. ??? Hertas I had a similar problem. There were several copies of flashplayer.xpt and libflash...so in various directories on my drive. I deleted them all. Then, I installed the RPM I found on this site: ftp://ruslug.rutgers.edu/pub/macromedia/urpmi/mandrake/9.2/RPMS/ This was the only one I could get to work. Harv Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SpamAssassin and DNS Black Lists
On Thursday 13 Nov 2003 1:43 am, Bryan Phinney wrote: In case anyone is using SpamAssassin and wants to increase their use of the available DNS Blacklists, I have a configuration file that I can make available that includes connections to some of the blacklists that I find to be more valuable. These include SPEWS, SORBS, Easynet, Blackholes.us, Spamcop and some others. Some of these blacklists were removed from current version of SpamAssassin because the original locations, like OSIRUSOFT went offline due to DDOS attacks by spammers. I have found some new locations for those so that I can continue to benefit from the blacklists that were so effective that spammers actually hired virus writers to shut them down. You can adjust the scores to your desired level depending on how much you trust the blacklist in question. Thus, a lower score will reduce the importance of that particular list, a higher score will increase its relevance. You just edit the .cf file and then copy it into /etc/mail/spamassassin, restart SA and watch it start to work. I have found this blackhole list especially useful in targeting direct to MX spam from compromised zombie windows machines on DSL and Cable networks. If anyone would like a copy, let me know. If you are not running SpamAssassin, I am afraid that this configuration file will do you no good. Using this .cf along with a couple of edits to the local.cf file that place a higher score on html only mail among other body checks, I have gotten only one false negative out of some 4000 spam messages over the last two weeks and no false positives at all. (I do have a whitelist of commercial merchants that I actually expect to send me html mail). Thanks for that list Bryan I shall certainly try them out, although at present SpamAssassin-2.60 is performing really well already on my 9.2 system (spamassassin-2.60 is available on Cooker. Yes I know I am always posting telling people *not* to use Cooker packages, but this one does not introduce any dependencies ;-) I did however have to rebuild the Bayes database before Bayes tests would work) Later:- I tried out your rules and get these errors when I run spamd -D debug: Failed to parse line in SpamAssassin configuration, skipping: tflags RCVD_IN_EASY debug: Failed to parse line in SpamAssassin configuration, skipping: tflags RCVD_IN_SORBS debug: Failed to parse line in SpamAssassin configuration, skipping: tflags X_SORBS_SOCKS debug: Failed to parse line in SpamAssassin configuration, skipping: tflags X_SORBS_MISC debug: Failed to parse line in SpamAssassin configuration, skipping: tflags X_SORBS_SMTP debug: Failed to parse line in SpamAssassin configuration, skipping: tflags X_SORBS_SPAM debug: Failed to parse line in SpamAssassin configuration, skipping: tflags X_SORBS_WEB debug: Failed to parse line in SpamAssassin configuration, skipping: tflags X_SORBS_ZOMBIE debug: Failed to parse line in SpamAssassin configuration, skipping: tflags X_SORBS_NOMAIL Is that syntax correct? I notice the line tflags X_SORBS_OPEN_HTTPnet *does* parse correctly. By the way:- Have you tried activating the dcc test? For me spamd hogs 100%CPU and locks up if I enable dcc (Yes dcc is installed) derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Audio control button
My 9.2 installation offers an aRts control tool applet in the task bar. It is slow and clunky In my 9.1 system there was a cute little volume control button that resided in the task bar next to the klipper, calendar, and the clock. It was easy to use and fast ... all it need was a right click. I could mute my audio with a click when the phone rang. Does anyone know the name of this applet/widget and where to find it? It doesn't appear in my list of installable applets. Thanks Harv Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mplayer Plugin
On Thursday 13 Nov 2003 12:01 pm, Piero Piutti wrote: I have a problem with the mplayerplug-in 0.80 shipped with LM 9.2 playing audio and video with Mozilla: since I have realplayer 8 installed and perfectly functioning, I don't want mplayerplug-in to steal real files associations... browsing the internet with Mozilla, I like real files to be handled and played by realplayer, not mplayer (plugin). I did a little investigation on the mplayerplug-in homepage and found that from version = 0.95 it is possible to selectively enable/disable the handling by the plugin of real/quicktime/windowsmedia files simply editing its configuration file. I installed the 0.95 version and indeed the real files were handed back to realplayer... but this time quicktime videos won't play anymore! they used to play just fine with mplayerplug-in 0.80 and now using 0.95 the same videos are downloaded but not played. so I'm forced to use mplayerplug-in 0.80 if I want to correctly display QuickTime videos, but at the same time I need it NOT to handle RealMedia files... in a few words, I'm asking if there is someone who succeeded in having mplayerplugin 0.80 to leave the control of real files to realplayer... I would really appreciate his/her help... basically because I'm installing MDK 9.2 on a friend's machine who is about to move to linux, so I want him to find a flawless installation so that he gets rid of Windogs once and forever! sorry if I sound confused, but this is how I feel... If you use the Opera browser you are able to choose which plugin handles a particular mime type. Maybe not the answer you are looking for but Opera is a stonking good browser ;-) derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT Windows crashes BMW's?
On Thursday 13 November 2003 02:19 am, John Wilson wrote: On November 12, 2003 06:07 pm, Aron Smith wrote: On Wednesday 12 November 2003 03:20 pm, John Wilson wrote: snip Ahhh, ain't M$ grand! Pay $80,000 for a shiny new beamer and it dies because CE hiccups. Can you imagine that happening on one of the freeways around LA? wicked grin Though I have heard that BMW is going to dump CE. I wonder why? ttfn John Excuse me I thought that code was Assembly code Could be, but MS is trumpeting it as Windows CE. my bad they are! ttfn John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Audio control button
On Thursday 13 Nov 2003 2:16 pm, Harv Nelson wrote: My 9.2 installation offers an aRts control tool applet in the task bar. It is slow and clunky In my 9.1 system there was a cute little volume control button that resided in the task bar next to the klipper, calendar, and the clock. It was easy to use and fast ... all it need was a right click. I could mute my audio with a click when the phone rang. Does anyone know the name of this applet/widget and where to find it? It doesn't appear in my list of installable applets. Thanks Harv That is Kmix Start Kmix from KMenuMultimediaSound and select the setting to Dock into panel derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SpamAssassin and DNS Black Lists
On Thursday 13 November 2003 09:04 am, Derek Jennings wrote:
Later:-
I tried out your rules and get these errors when I run spamd -D
debug: Failed to parse line in SpamAssassin configuration, skipping: tflags
RCVD_IN_EASY
Possible that additional CR/LF have been introduced by my posting. I will
attach the original here as a text file and hope that it gets through to the
list. If not, I can send it to you direct through email.
Is that syntax correct? I notice the line
tflags X_SORBS_OPEN_HTTPnet
*does* parse correctly.
Try the standalone file and tell me if you still have problems, I have none on
mine and I also run 2.60.
By the way:-
Have you tried activating the dcc test?
For me spamd hogs 100%CPU and locks up if I enable dcc (Yes dcc is
installed)
No, I run Razor but don't see any advantage to running more than one
distributed checksum list and Razor already works well enough for me. Fact
is that there are few spams that are caught by Razor that also aren't flagged
by the DNSBL checks, anyway.
--
Bryan Phinney
Software Test Engineer
# EASYNET_NL is the Easynet.nl List: http://blackholes.easynet.nl .
header RCVD_IN_EASY rbleval:check_rbl('relay', 'blackholes.easynet.nl.')
describe RCVD_IN_EASY Received via EASYed relay, see
http://blackholes.easynet.nl
tflags RCVD_IN_EASY
# use *.blackholes.us DNSBL's
# $Id: blackholes.cf,v 1.2 2002/08/07 06:23:58 pancrace Exp $
header RCVD_IN_ARGENTINAeval:check_rbl('country', 'argentina.blackholes.us.')
describe RCVD_IN_ARGENTINA Received from Argentina
header RCVD_IN_BRAZIL eval:check_rbl('country', 'brazil.blackholes.us.')
describe RCVD_IN_BRAZIL Received from Brazil
header RCVD_IN_CHINAeval:check_rbl('country', 'china.blackholes.us.')
describe RCVD_IN_CHINA Received from China
header RCVD_IN_JAPANeval:check_rbl('country', 'japan.blackholes.us.')
describe RCVD_IN_JAPAN Received from Japan
header RCVD_IN_KOREAeval:check_rbl('country', 'korea.blackholes.us.')
describe RCVD_IN_KOREA Received from Korea
header RCVD_IN_NIGERIA eval:check_rbl('country', 'nigeria.blackholes.us.')
describe RCVD_IN_NIGERIAReceived from Nigeria
header RCVD_IN_RUSSIA eval:check_rbl('country', 'russia.blackholes.us.')
describe RCVD_IN_RUSSIA Received from Russia
header RCVD_IN_SINGAPOREeval:check_rbl('country', 'singapore.blackholes.us.')
describe RCVD_IN_SINGAPORE REceived from Singapore
header RCVD_IN_TAIWAN eval:check_rbl('country', 'taiwan.blackholes.us.')
describe RCVD_IN_TAIWAN Received from Taiwan
header RCVD_IN_THAILAND eval:check_rbl('country', 'thailand.blackholes.us.')
describe RCVD_IN_THAILAND Received from Thailand
score RCVD_IN_ARGENTINA 7.0
score RCVD_IN_BRAZIL7.0
score RCVD_IN_CHINA 7.0
score RCVD_IN_JAPAN 7.0
score RCVD_IN_KOREA 7.0
score RCVD_IN_NIGERIA 7.0
score RCVD_IN_RUSSIA7.0
score RCVD_IN_SINGAPORE 2.0
score RCVD_IN_TAIWAN7.0
score RCVD_IN_THAILAND 2.0
header RCVD_IN_BROADWINGeval:check_rbl('isp', 'broadwing.blackholes.us.')
describe RCVD_IN_BROADWING Received from Broadwing network space
header RCVD_IN_CIBERLYNXeval:check_rbl('isp', 'ciberlynx.blackholes.us.')
describe RCVD_IN_CIBERLYNX Received from Ciberlynx network space
header RCVD_IN_CW eval:check_rbl('isp', 'cw.blackholes.us.')
describe RCVD_IN_CW Received from Cable and Wireless network space
header RCVD_IN_ELI eval:check_rbl('isp', 'eli.blackholes.us.')
describe RCVD_IN_ELIReceived from ELI network space
header RCVD_IN_EPOCHeval:check_rbl('isp', 'epoch.blackholes.us.')
describe RCVD_IN_EPOCH Received from Epoch network space
header RCVD_IN_HE eval:check_rbl('isp', 'he.blackholes.us.')
describe RCVD_IN_HE Received from Hurricane Electric network space
header RCVD_IN_INFLOW eval:check_rbl('isp', 'inflow.blackholes.us.')
describe RCVD_IN_INFLOW Received from Inflow network space
header RCVD_IN_INTERNAP eval:check_rbl('isp', 'internap.blackholes.us.')
describe RCVD_IN_INTERNAP Received from Internap network space
header RCVD_IN_LEVEL3 eval:check_rbl('isp', 'level3.blackholes.us.')
describe RCVD_IN_LEVEL3 Received from Level 3 network space
header RCVD_IN_RACKSPACEeval:check_rbl('isp', 'rackspace.blackholes.us.')
describe RCVD_IN_RACKSPACE Received from Rackspace network space
header RCVD_IN_RR eval:check_rbl('isp', 'rr.blackholes.us.')
describe RCVD_IN_RR Received from Road Runner network space
header RCVD_IN_SKYNETWEBeval:check_rbl('isp', 'skynetweb.blackholes.us.')
describe RCVD_IN_SKYNETWEB Received from SkynetWeb network space
header
[newbie] SSL disabled in Mozilla 1.4
Hi, I can't go to an online program using Mozilla because appears a message box explaining that SSL is disabled. When I double check in Preferences - Privacy Security - SSL all options where active (SSL version2, SSL version 3, TSL). What should I do to solve this problem? Thanks, Rosario Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SSL disabled in Mozilla 1.4
Could it be that you are running behind a firewall that blocks SSL? I've never had problems with secure browsing with Mozilla 1.x. What's the URL of the site you can't access? raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I can't go to an online program using Mozilla because appears a message box explaining that SSL is disabled. When I double check in Preferences - Privacy Security - SSL all options where active (SSL version2, SSL version 3, TSL). What should I do to solve this problem? Thanks, Rosario Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SpamAssassin and DNS Black Lists
On Thursday 13 Nov 2003 2:42 pm, Bryan Phinney wrote: On Thursday 13 November 2003 09:04 am, Derek Jennings wrote: Later:- I tried out your rules and get these errors when I run spamd -D debug: Failed to parse line in SpamAssassin configuration, skipping: tflags RCVD_IN_EASY Possible that additional CR/LF have been introduced by my posting. I will attach the original here as a text file and hope that it gets through to the list. If not, I can send it to you direct through email. Is that syntax correct? I notice the line tflags X_SORBS_OPEN_HTTPnet *does* parse correctly. Try the standalone file and tell me if you still have problems, I have none on mine and I also run 2.60. No still the same. Reading 'man Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf' it looks as if the tflags statement should always assign a test type to a test. I made them all test type 'net' and now the config files parse OK. Now to see if they will start catching spam :-) Yes! The first spams are appearing with RCVD_IN_CHINA et al. Before the average spam was scoring between 25 and 40 points. Now they are reaching above 50! I was already getting almost zero false negatives and zero false positives, now it will be even better. Thanks Bryan derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SpamAssassin and DNS Black Lists
On Thursday 13 November 2003 10:23 am, Derek Jennings wrote: No still the same. Reading 'man Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf' it looks as if the tflags statement should always assign a test type to a test. I made them all test type 'net' and now the config files parse OK. Now to see if they will start catching spam :-) Well, I added them to my copy as well. Funny, the lines never showed an error to me and the flags were working because they show when I examined previous spam but thanks for pointing out the parsing errors, I have adjusted my copy and if anything, hopefully, it will work better. I hope that you adjusted the scores on the file, I put a pretty high score on some of the country lists as well as some of the ISP's in particular RoadRunner and some others because of the high frequency of compromised machines with cable modems. YMMV a lot. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] mirror speed checker
-Original Message-
From: Phil Newcombe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 10:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] mirror speed checker
Hi all.
Here's a bash script I found looking for something
that would poll
(ping) Mandrake mirrors and return the result rated
by speed like
apt-netselect does in Debian. I hacked it up a bit
to make it
work with
the mirror list (README_mirrors) and I'm no guru
so.
I probably should've tested it before my orginal post
to this thread. Oh well. I've run into a problem.
This is what I get when I run the script:
tmp]$ sh cheker README.mirrors
Testing tr: invalid option -- n
Try `tr --help' for more information.
cheker: line 69: syntax error near unexpected token
`newline'
cheker: line 69: `then grep rtt
$tmpdir/ping$$_$h | cut -d/ -f 5 | tr \n'
This is rather confusing since tr has the valid option
of \n. Here's a copy of the script below,
TIA,
Tango
###
#!/bin/sh
# sort_mirrors_by_speed by A.Mennucci Nov 97
#
# this program is subject to the
# GNU general public license
#
# this program will scan the file in $1 using
# grep \.[a-zA-Z]*: $1 | awk '{print $1}'
# to find mirror site host names.
#
# the string before the : character is considered
to be a
# mirror site host name
#
# Mirror sites are pinged and statistics are
collected and sorted #
if [ $1 = -h -o $1 = --help ] ; then
echo Usage: $0 mirrorfile
echo Argument must be the file README.mirrors
echo containing a list of debian mirrors.
echo This program will ping all mirrors with 4
packets
echo to test their speed and reliability, and then
will echo sort the result, put it in file
mirrors_by_speed and show the
best.
exit 0
fi
tmpdir=~/tmp
# warning: using the directory /tmp and running this
script
# as root is a potential security problem
if ! [ -w $tmpdir ] ; then
echo $0 ERROR dir $tmpdir is not writable
echo please create it if it does not exist
exit 1
fi
if [ ! -r $1 -o $1 = ] ; then
echo $0 ERROR Give as argument the file
README.mirrors
echo containing a list of debian mirrors
exit 1
fi
if [ -r mirrors_by_speed ] ; then
echo $0 ERROR the file mirrors_by_speed already
exists
exit 1
fi
#touch $tmpdir/mirrors_by_speed
n=0
echo -n Testing
grep [a-zA-Z] $1 | awk '{print $1}' | wc --lines |
tr \n echo debian mirror sites for speed and
reliability. echo -n Tests done :
#for i in ` grep [a-zA-Z]*: $1 | awk '{print $1}' `
;
for i in `grep [a-z]* $1 | cut -d/ -f 1 | awk
'{print $1}' ` ; do
n=`expr $n + 1 `
(
h=$n
#echo TEST $h for $i
#if ping -c 6 `echo $i | cut -d: -f 1`
$tmpdir/ping$$_$h;
if ping -c 6 `echo $i` $tmpdir/ping$$_$h;
then grep rtt $tmpdir/ping$$_$h | cut -d/ -f 5
| tr \n
$tmpdir/mirrors_by_speed_$h
echo -n ms AVERAGE ,
$tmpdir/mirrors_by_speed_$h
grep received $tmpdir/ping$$_$h | cut -d, -f 3
| tr \n ,
$tmpdir/mirrors_by_speed_$h
echo SITE $i $tmpdir/mirrors_by_speed_$h
#cat $tmpdir/mirrors_by_speed_$h
cat $tmpdir/mirrors_by_speed_$h
mirrors_by_speed
rm $tmpdir/mirrors_by_speed_$h
fi
rm $tmpdir/ping$$_$h
echo -n $h
)
# we do not want to flood the net; we test 30 sites
at a time
# then we wait 8 seconds so that most of the pings
will be done
if [ `expr $n % 30 ` = 0 ] ; then sleep 8 ; fi
done
wait
echo .
echo Fastest mirrors are:
mv mirrors_by_speed mirrors_by_speed~
sort -n mirrors_by_speed~ mirrors_by_speed
head mirrors_by_speed
# end of scriptd~
sort -n mirrors_by_speed~ mirrors_by_speed
head mirrors_by_speed
# end of scriptript
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Re: [newbie] Phoenix bios
On Sunday 09 November 2003 02:03 pm, alfredo wrote: Hello, does anyone know if is possible change the usb port IRQ settings from the BIOS Phoenix R0105K6. Thanks Alfredo Alfredo: Check out the support section at your motherboard's site -- after that, Google is your friend. Because each motherboard design has a unique implementation of the base Phoenix BIOS, Phoenix does not provide end user support. -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT Windows crashes BMW's?
On November 13, 2003 12:01 am, Margot wrote: snip This old joke has been doing the rounds for a while, but I think it is worth repeating in this context: There are three engineers in a car; an electrical engineer, a chemical engineer and a Microsoft engineer. Suddenly the car just stops by the side of the road, and the three engineers look at each other wondering what could be wrong. The electrical engineer suggests stripping down the electronics of the car and trying to trace where a fault might have occurred. The chemical engineer, not knowing much about cars, suggests that maybe the fuel is becoming emulsified and getting blocked somewhere. Then, the Microsoft engineer, not knowing much about anything, comes up with a suggestion: If we close all the windows, get out, get back in, then open the windows again, maybe it'll work!? Margot Perhaps BMW could put this in their owner's manual under What to do when the car dies for no apparent reason? :-) ttfn John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Linux in Thailand
I have just installed LM9.1 on my system at home and have set up accounts for my kids. This way they can learn it the same time I am... Family time. The way I see it, there's no time like now to get them used to working with the future of things. By the way, we are home-schoolers and they will be getting plenty of exposure to Linux =:0) They will be learning more about MS in their history class. lol ToddM -Original Message- From: Kevin B. O'Brien [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 5:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux in Thailand At 04:44 PM 11/12/2003, Merlin Zener said something remarkably like (but somehow subtly different from): http://www.linuxinsider.com/perl/story/32110.html just thought a few ppl here might be slightly interested :) It was interesting, and it echoes something I have been saying. The conventional wisdom is that Linux is only for the most experienced PC users, and that people who are new to computers should stick to Windows. I have maintained that the opposite is true now: the experienced users will have problems because it isn't what they are used to, but newbies will do fine. Regards, -- Kevin B. O'Brien TANSTAAFL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux User #333216 Information is not knowledge, Knowledge is not wisdom, Wisdom is not truth, Truth is not beauty, Beauty is not love, Love is not music, Music is THE BEST -- Frank Zappa Help fight SPAM. Join CAUCE. http://www.cauce.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux in the Business World - Speak Up !
On Thursday 13 Nov 2003 1:19 pm, Tango Echo wrote: --- Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 12 Nov 2003 1:49 pm, Tango Echo wrote: The Twiki suggestion is great. One addition to it may be more of an industry HOWTO. For example, people could post HOWTOs that pertain to their industry. Weather its government, insurance, production, retail, or something else, each industry has its own specific needs from the software it uses. Even if it's just a list of apps they use, it would give people a good idea where to start and what tool(s) is recommended for the job. Add some contact info for each bizcase/howto and you have a rather powerful tool for Windows to Linux migrations =). (I'm actually still in search of the Win to Lin migration myself) Brilliant idea, Tango. Anyone care to start us off? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? I wouldn't even know where to begin for creating the page on Twiki - only posted one item there so far. It was just a quick how to instead of an entire index page... But once we have the page set up, perhaps a mass invite to those individuals on the bizcase site would be a good way to pull in some starter info? If nothing else, we could ask them what they use for apps and if they would like to contribute any advice or HOWTOs... Any suggestions or advice here? Let's keep this going! I can set up a page for you, containing the single word 'placeholder', on which you can build, if that would help. For any potential contributors who don't want to learn the few simple formatting commands, they can use html tags instead. Just let me know if you want me to start it. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] [OT] Link offered without comment...
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Re: [newbie] Linux in the Business World - Speak Up !
On Wednesday 12 Nov 2003 11:01 pm, Kevin B. O'Brien wrote: At 01:56 PM 11/12/2003, Anne Wilson said something remarkably like (but somehow subtly different from): And don't forget to tell them that all support/updates/fixes for 98 have ceased. Ummm...No. They just released fixes for Win98 again. I have to admit I didn't check - but they announced End of Life some time ago, so I assumed that it kicked in before now. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux in Thailand
On Wednesday 12 Nov 2003 9:44 pm, Merlin Zener wrote: http://www.linuxinsider.com/perl/story/32110.html just thought a few ppl here might be slightly interested :) Very interesting. And it bears out what I have always held true - the M$ way is only 'intuitive' if you have been a M$ user. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mirror speed checker
On Thursday 13 Nov 2003 1:28 pm, Tango Echo wrote: --- Phil Newcombe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all. Here's a bash script I found looking for something that would poll (ping) Mandrake mirrors and return the result rated by speed like apt-netselect does in Debian. I hacked it up a bit to make it work with the mirror list (README_mirrors) and I'm no guru so. Lol, so I don't have to spend all that time pinging every mirror and finding the quickest download? This script is excellent. Couple questions - is this already on Twiki? I haven't seen it? If it isn't how about appending it to the UsingUrpmi page? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SpamAssassin and DNS Black Lists
On Thursday 13 Nov 2003 3:42 pm, Bryan Phinney wrote: On Thursday 13 November 2003 10:23 am, Derek Jennings wrote: No still the same. Reading 'man Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf' it looks as if the tflags statement should always assign a test type to a test. I made them all test type 'net' and now the config files parse OK. Now to see if they will start catching spam :-) Well, I added them to my copy as well. Funny, the lines never showed an error to me and the flags were working because they show when I examined previous spam but thanks for pointing out the parsing errors, I have adjusted my copy and if anything, hopefully, it will work better. I hope that you adjusted the scores on the file, I put a pretty high score on some of the country lists as well as some of the ISP's in particular RoadRunner and some others because of the high frequency of compromised machines with cable modems. YMMV a lot. OK I have adjusted some of the scores and it is all working nicely, but I have a question? What is the difference between RCVD_IN_SORBS and the specific Sorbs tests like X_SORBS_SOCKS ? If a mail fails a specific Sorbs test then won't it by definition also trigger the general test? derek -- -- www.jennings.homelinux.net http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mplayer Plugin
On Thursday 13 Nov 2003 12:01 pm, Piero Piutti wrote: in a few words, I'm asking if there is someone who succeeded in having mplayerplugin 0.80 to leave the control of real files to realplayer... I don't use 9.2, so I have to tell you what works in 9.1 and let you try for it. If you are using kde, open kde's Control Center. In there, under Components, you will find Associations. There you can set which application handles each mime type. HTH Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] SpamAssassin and DNS Black Lists
On Thursday 13 November 2003 01:03 pm, Derek Jennings wrote: OK I have adjusted some of the scores and it is all working nicely, but I have a question? What is the difference between RCVD_IN_SORBS and the specific Sorbs tests like X_SORBS_SOCKS ? RCVD_IN_SORBS is triggered when any one of the multi zone tests comes back positive. The X_SORBS_SOCKS is the single zone test for an open SOCKS proxy. If a mail fails a specific Sorbs test then won't it by definition also trigger the general test? Yes, but the reason that I included all of those is that some people, including myself may not want to block on some of the specific zones that SORBS lists. For intance, I might want to block only known spam sources as opposed to merely open relays. SORBS actually has more zones than I have listed in my cf file, those are just the ones that I want to block on. You can also include settings that will check for multiple hits and assign a weighted score to each one so that it would require say, a hit on open proxy coupled with a hit on spam source to trigger a block. I am fairly aggressive on my system and want to block even if the provider just maintains or doesn't close open relays, proxies, etc., again YMMV. That is why I suggested checking the score factors carefully before using the file. However, the benefit of including the individual zone tests is that in the spam report, either added to headers or placed in the message, SA will show the individual tests that trigger the score. So, for instance, if you get a lot of false positives from the SPEWS zone and you want to avoid that, you can remove it or even place a lower score on that individual zone. It is even possible to place a negative score, such that a hit on X_SPEWS_SORBS would reduce the count by 5 but a general hit on RCVD_IN_SORBS would be 7, thus a total of 2 if the hit came from SPEWS but was not included in any of the other zones. By granting different weights to the individual tests, it is possible to tailor SA to your specific needs based on your results. Aggressive scoring works really well for me but I know that it is not for everyone. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Problems configuring Caitoo
Recently I've been trying to configure Caitoo. I fixed the error with QT, but now I have a different problem. This comes up everytime I try to configure it checking for KDE headers installed... configure: error: your system is not able to compile a small KDE application! Check, if you installed the KDE header files correctly. Does anyone have any idea how I can fix this? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] POSTFIX in wrong time zone
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:42:33 - Kerwick Jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am running a Mandrake 9.0 server which hosts our intranet. I have just one small problem, my postfix server thinks its in the (-5:00)EST time zone when the box itself is in the GMT Time Zone. Consequently all of my mail logs are out by 5 hours, how do I get postfix to use the correct timezone ?? Postfix gets its timezone from /var/spool/Postfix/etc/localtime (on Mandrake 9.2) As root copy /etc/localtime to there. That what fixed it for me Cheers Nigel Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] DivX player ?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/BB0A4H/saledep-21?dev-t=DJQUA1R Is this Yamada DVX-6100 MPEG4 Multi-region DVD Player - Umax, electronics going to be any good for playing .avi format do you think ? John -- John Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] VCD programs
On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 16:12, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 12 Nov 2003 7:10 am, Merlin Zener wrote: On Wed, 2003-11-12 at 04:19, Tadimeti Keshav wrote: Hi does the download edition of MDK 9.1 come with programs that can play VCDs? Installing Xine gives me problems with MD5 signs. Mplayer can't play VCDs. well, it's supposed to be able to. On my system it plays too fast, and the video is all messed up. I expect it's some setting I haven't found yet - I haven't looked too much so far. If I rip the .dat file to my hard drive and then play it, it plays fine. I have 2 commercially produced vcds, and they play faultlessly. What version of xine are you using? Mine is 0.9.18. If you don't have the right codecs installed you will not have buttons for the various kinds of disk. The one for vcd is called vcdx - if you don't have that you need to get plf set up as one of your sources and search for anything that matches your version of xine. Download everything you can find. no, I was only saying that Mplayer doesn't play VCDs on my system; Xine works just fine. I've only just recently downloaded Mplayer, and I haven't had much chance to play around with it yet. -- Merlin Zener Piano, Synthesizer Thailand. registered Linux user number 328618 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mplayer Plugin
Alle 15:19, giovedì 13 novembre 2003, Derek Jennings ha scritto: Maybe not the answer you are looking for but Opera is a stonking good browser ;-) Thanks for the tip... but I'd rather keep using mozilla... ;-) -- Piero Piutti Powered by Kmail 1.5.3 - KDE 3.1.3 - Mandrake Linux 9.2 To mess up a Linux box, you need to work at it; to mess up your Windows box, you just need to work on it Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Display flickers on laptop ( F-siemens Amilo D 6820 - Ati radeon mobility 9000 vga )
On Thursday 13 November 2003 08:21 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Friends, I installed Madrake 9.2 on my fujitsu - siemens amilo D 6820 notebook. Almost everything fine but the monitor flickers but it is robust on XP with 1024 * 768 @ 60 hz.Mandrake shows my monitor ( display ) as flat panel 1024 * 768 . I am using Xfree 4.3 with 3d acceleration and my vga card is 32 Mb Ati radeon mobility 9000 . What should I do ? Thanks.. Hertas Hertas, some possible solutions : 1. On most flat panels there is some sort of button allowing you to make the screen auto-adjust. Don't know about your laptop, though. 2. Did the install process find your screen by itself ?. If yes, is it correct ? - If not, open the Mandrake Control Center, go to system and try to scroll down to the flat panel section and choose generic flat panel 1024x768. 4. If you know the correct values for horizontal and vertical refresh rates, become root and edit this file : /etc/X11/XF86Config in the section screen. Don't choose the exact values, but allow an (conservative) interval. 5. If all this fails, open a console, become root and type : xvidtune. Here, you can play around with the values. However, xvidtune doesn't edit your config, but gives you some values to edit into XF86Config. But use on you own risk. BTW : If you don't have the printed manuals for your screen, most manufacturers supply those on-line. I think Fujitsu-Siemens does. HTH Kaj Haulrich. -- *This mail was sent from a 100 % Microsoft free computer* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] POSTFIX in wrong time zone
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:11:33 -0500 (EST) Nigel Wilkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 13:42:33 - Kerwick Jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am running a Mandrake 9.0 server which hosts our intranet. I have just one small problem, my postfix server thinks its in the (-5:00)EST time zone when the box itself is in the GMT Time Zone. Consequently all of my mail logs are out by 5 hours, how do I get postfix to use the correct timezone ?? Postfix gets its timezone from /var/spool/Postfix/etc/localtime (on Mandrake 9.2) As root copy /etc/localtime to there. That what fixed it for me reading this reminded me that I hadn't done this for my new 9.2 installation. Just done it so see the different time stamp on this from my previous message. Don't forget to stop and restart postfix for this to take effect. Cheers Nigel Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Ripe for plucking ?
Quote from The Globe and Mail about the Novell takeover of S.u.S.E. : quote There could also be some other moves. Other giants might be thinking Linux too. The financially troubled Mandrake Linux is ripe for plucking, especially by a company such as Hewlett-Packard Co., which a few weeks ago delayed release of its next version of HP-UX, a version of UNIX, by as much as a year. And then there's Xandros Linux, which just yesterday released a new version, this one offering compatibility with Microsoft Windows programs, including MS Office and MS networks. By the time the dust settles, the Linux shocks will emerge as the most serious challenge Microsoft has ever faced. The earth clearly hasn't finished moving. /quote Kaj Haulrich. -- *This mail was sent from a 100 % Microsoft free computer* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Test
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Re: [newbie] MDK 9.2 PowerPack confusion/worries
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi John, Thanks for all your comments...they are helpful and encouraging. For the moment, I'll just reply to this one bit... On Wednesday, November 12, 2003, at 10:28:07 AM PST, you wrote: Well, first, I wrote: 3) As a total newbie getting ready to perform my first Linux installation, should I be concerned enough about these various issues that I should perhaps pay my local computer tech to come over here and hold my hand as I go through this process? Then you replied thusly: You could if your computer tech isn't a Windows weenie who only knows wizards and the MS bible of reinstall if it doesn't work. A hard habit to get out of, I can tell you. I've certainly encountered the type described above, but he's not one of them (as evidenced by his reluctance to simply re-install when he's helped me over the past four years with my troublesome Win98SE and WinME computers...often finding more focused solutions). I feel that I can trust him to help me with my Mandrake installation, as he has a lot of experience with not only Windows, but also Linux distros and Mac. Before he went into business for himself, he was for many years the computer hardware/OS/network guy for Boeing, and dealt with everything from mainframes to the various flavors of PCs and laptops with a variety of OSs. He custom built my new computer for me, and I know that he also builds computers and installs OSs for people who use only Linux distros. In each case, he installs only hardware he's sure will work well with the intended OS. That said, he built this computer with WinXP in mind, so we'll see what happens when the Mandrake installation takes place. I am thinking that I would be more comfortable with him here to help me with the installation, because he would have a better chance than I of understanding and dealing with any obscure technical issue if it pops up during installation. I'll certainly be watching over his shoulder (or asking him to look over mine), so I don't think I'll really miss any learning opportunity by just having him here. More likely, just the opposite, as he can explain to me as we go along just what might be happening. [Stop reading here if you don't want to bother with some tangential rambling.] Being naturally inclined to digress, I do want to make a *general* comment or two (or three or more!) with regards to the attitudes often expressed by loyalists of one OS or another (not at all pointed at you, John, though this digression is certainly inspired by a concept alluded to in your comment quoted above)... As a long-time Windows user who reads just about everything I can get ahold of when I'm curious about something, I very often encounter - from Linux users more than others - comments that seem uncomfortably elitist (regardless of how possibly justified, or offered with some humor). Because of that, enhanced by the often self-styled perception amongst many Linux users that one must be sufficiently with a clue (as opposed to being clueless Windows wimps) in order to truly appreciate the superiority of Linux over Windows, I see many fellow Windows wimps become discouraged and decide not to even try a Linux distribution. Unfortunately, that's the kind of thing that happens when this sort of rivalry becomes an almost religious issue, and it does nothing for the wider migration of the unwashed masses from Windows to Linux (perhaps a very reasonable and desirable thing). The same sort of religious debate can happen in many areas...even in sea kayaking (those who believe in rudders versus those who don't, etc.). Just for the record, I believe the only true path to enlightenment is rudderless! ;-) I am one to speak my mind, especially if I feel some kind of truth is on my side, and I can also easily understand and even appreciate the humor in comments I often read from Linux users with regards to Windows (and its users...myself included), but other people might be more sensitive to what they consider elitism of any sort, and if you really do want more people to consider alternatives to Windows - and Linux disros in particular - perhaps even the *appearance* of elitism is something to consider avoiding. Ironically, isn't Linux supposed to be more of a for the people thing than Windows? If so, elitism really has no place in its culture...especially in places like news groups and mail lists where curious Windows wimps might be exploring the idea of a possible migration to Linux based OSs. Whew!...got my little rant-o-the-day out of the way, so I can now climb into my kayak and go visit my whale friends (who don't care one way or the other about Linux or Windows! :-)). - -- Melissa PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE/s/ZFjVbXUvsE8ukRAsb0AKDoR2cmQoz4B7y9Pd9xJRVvhm8cKwCgxlwx aaiFZ/wPlHFfK9QpgkUNu28= =36vo -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from
Re: [newbie] MDK 9.2 PowerPack confusion/worries
Melissa Reese wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi John, Thanks for all your comments...they are helpful and encouraging. For the moment, I'll just reply to this one bit... On Wednesday, November 12, 2003, at 10:28:07 AM PST, you wrote: Well, first, I wrote: 3) As a total newbie getting ready to perform my first Linux installation, should I be concerned enough about these various issues that I should perhaps pay my local computer tech to come over here and hold my hand as I go through this process? Then you replied thusly: You could if your computer tech isn't a Windows weenie who only knows wizards and the MS bible of reinstall if it doesn't work. A hard habit to get out of, I can tell you. I've certainly encountered the type described above, but he's not one of them (as evidenced by his reluctance to simply re-install when he's helped me over the past four years with my troublesome Win98SE and WinME computers...often finding more focused solutions). I feel that I can trust him to help me with my Mandrake installation, as he has a lot of experience with not only Windows, but also Linux distros and Mac. Before he went into business for himself, he was for many years the computer hardware/OS/network guy for Boeing, and dealt with everything from mainframes to the various flavors of PCs and laptops with a variety of OSs. He custom built my new computer for me, and I know that he also builds computers and installs OSs for people who use only Linux distros. In each case, he installs only hardware he's sure will work well with the intended OS. That said, he built this computer with WinXP in mind, so we'll see what happens when the Mandrake installation takes place. I am thinking that I would be more comfortable with him here to help me with the installation, because he would have a better chance than I of understanding and dealing with any obscure technical issue if it pops up during installation. I'll certainly be watching over his shoulder (or asking him to look over mine), so I don't think I'll really miss any learning opportunity by just having him here. More likely, just the opposite, as he can explain to me as we go along just what might be happening. Melissa, My first linux was Mandrake 9.0 which I started on just under a year ago. I missed out 9.1 because I hadn't finished fixing the things I messed up in 9.0, and I've just installed 9.2 - mostly successful so far! I've learned that the best way to learn Mandrake is by doing it. If you feel more comfortable having your tech friend there, make sure he knows that his primary role is to keep you supplied with coffee (or other beverage of your choice!). By all means ask questions, and let him jump in if you look like you are getting lost, but you need to be the one doing most of the work. Before you start, make a list of all the hardware you've got, and make sure it is all connected and switched on - Mandrake is pretty good at auto-detecting, but it sometimes gets it wrong, so check before accepting Mandrake's selections. Make sure you know all the details of your internet connection! And make notes at each stage of the installation, so you have records of which options you've chosen - very useful if you need to change anything later! I recommend a book called Moving to Linux - Kiss the Blue Screen of Death Goodbye! by Marcel Gagne - a very useful starter guide for people looking to move away from Windows - I wish I'd had this book before I started! Good luck with your installation. Margot Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MDK 9.2 PowerPack confusion/worries
Melissa Reese wrote: I've certainly encountered the type described above, but he's not one of them (as evidenced by his reluctance to simply re-install when he's helped me over the past four years with my troublesome Win98SE and WinME computers...often finding more focused solutions). I feel that I can trust him to help me with my Mandrake installation, as he has a lot of experience with not only Windows, but also Linux distros and Mac. Before he went into business for himself, he was for many years the computer hardware/OS/network guy for Boeing, and dealt with everything from mainframes to the various flavors of PCs and laptops with a variety of OSs. He custom built my new computer for me, and I know that he also builds computers and installs OSs for people who use only Linux distros. In each case, he installs only hardware he's sure will work well with the intended OS. That said, he built this computer with WinXP in mind, so we'll see what happens when the Mandrake installation takes place. I am thinking that I would be more comfortable with him here to help me with the installation, because he would have a better chance than I of understanding and dealing with any obscure technical issue if it pops up during installation. I'll certainly be watching over his shoulder (or asking him to look over mine), so I don't think I'll really miss any learning opportunity by just having him here. More likely, just the opposite, as he can explain to me as we go along just what might be happening. If you have somebody of that kind of experience to hand your'd be mad not to take advantage of the persons expertese, and by all means do so, most of us don't have anyone so well informed and proficient to guide us through the first experiences, myself included and I managed it OK. [Stop reading here if you don't want to bother with some tangential rambling.] Being naturally inclined to digress, I do want to make a *general* comment or two (or three or more!) with regards to the attitudes often expressed by loyalists of one OS or another (not at all pointed at you, John, though this digression is certainly inspired by a concept alluded to in your comment quoted above)... As a long-time Windows user who reads just about everything I can get ahold of when I'm curious about something, I very often encounter - from Linux users more than others - comments that seem uncomfortably elitist (regardless of how possibly justified, or offered with some humor). Because of that, enhanced by the often self-styled perception amongst many Linux users that one must be sufficiently with a clue (as opposed to being clueless Windows wimps) in order to truly appreciate the superiority of Linux over Windows, I see many fellow Windows wimps become discouraged and decide not to even try a Linux distribution. Unfortunately, that's the kind of thing that happens when this sort of rivalry becomes an almost religious issue, and it does nothing for the wider migration of the unwashed masses from Windows to Linux (perhaps a very reasonable and desirable thing). The same sort of religious debate can happen in many areas...even in sea kayaking (those who believe in rudders versus those who don't, etc.). Just for the record, I believe the only true path to enlightenment is rudderless! ;-) I am one to speak my mind, especially if I feel some kind of truth is on my side, and I can also easily understand and even appreciate the humor in comments I often read from Linux users with regards to Windows (and its users...myself included), but other people might be more sensitive to what they consider elitism of any sort, and if you really do want more people to consider alternatives to Windows - and Linux disros in particular - perhaps even the *appearance* of elitism is something to consider avoiding. Ironically, isn't Linux supposed to be more of a for the people thing than Windows? If so, elitism really has no place in its culture...especially in places like news groups and mail lists where curious Windows wimps might be exploring the idea of a possible migration to Linux based OSs. Whew!...got my little rant-o-the-day out of the way, so I can now climb into my kayak and go visit my whale friends (who don't care one way or the other about Linux or Windows! :-)). -- Melissa Remember Melisa, if Linux users sometimes come across frequently as elitist one can also say that windblows users often portray us a mere geeks and nurds ,and some sort of performing computer circus act . It is an understandable human trait that those who will not open their minds to alternatives, simply because they don't want to think outside of their peer group custom, often create the elusion that those who do, and can, are not normal. Sad but true. I don't defend linux elitism but I do understand where the degative trait is coming from. All I can say though is if we seem that to you , more is the pitty on us. For as you say Linux is not an elitist user club, you are free
Re: [newbie] Great Interview with RMS
Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Tuesday 11 November 2003 08:45 am, HaywireMac wrote: Stallman's answers really strike a chord with me, though I have to say I think his stance on Debian is a bit much. Anyway, he has some interesting things to say about DRM, Free Software, and the linkage between software and politics. http://www.ofb.biz/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=260 Can FS users be apolitical, can we separate politics from our choice of an OS? Or maybe the question should be, can we *risk* being apolitical when our choice of OS is under attack so to speak? I was fortunate enough to hear RMS speak on a Linux Lunacy tour a few years ago. Awesome stuff, I was really impressed. Does he still start lists with zero? Sir Robin -- Certitude is possible for those who only own one encyclopedia. - Robert Anton Wilson Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Linux in the Business World - Speak Up !
Tony S. Sykes wrote: Robin, I am sure that they must have checked their licence's and found out they hadn't got any newer one's than 98. Can't think of any other reason. You can put your pen (mightier than the sword) down and hopefully not have to fight when you explain that it does not cost a penny. I checked with the head of the computer centre and it looks like it was just a case of some managemers in the School of English getting the wrong end of the stick. There is apparently no official university policy, but the computer centre strongly advise against any _Windows_ other than Win98. The reason is that people install XP, don't patch it and leave vulnerable services running with no protection. Then the thing gets wormy and goes down, and the poor techies have to go and fix it. As for attitudes to Linux, a lot of the low-level techies don't like it because they don't understand it; the sysadmins are all using Linux anyway! Sir Robin Tony. -Original Message- From: Robin Turner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 3:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] Linux in the Business World - Speak Up ! Lanman wrote: Just curious about something. How many of the list members are using Linux in the workplace and how? I think it would be encouraging to see who's doing what with it, and which distro's, whether they're seeing an increase in business because of Linux and what interesting things they're doing with Linux. I'm using Linux at work in a university department for the usual office stuff and as a local FTP server (though I seem to be the only person who makes much use of this). I use LyX for my own academic writing and OpenOffice for correcting/commenting on student papers (I've set up a series of styles and macros for this, which makes it a lot easier). However, my boss has just informed me that there is a new policy requiring all teachers to use Windows 98. War may be declared. Sir Robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Certitude is possible for those who only own one encyclopedia. - Robert Anton Wilson Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Univeritesi Ankara 06533 Turkey www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT Windows crashes BMW's?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Merlin, On Thursday, November 13, 2003, at 3:32:34 AM PST, you wrote: There was a story widely reported in the papers here in Thailand about a Government minister who was locked inside his BMW when it stopped on the highway. Eventually someone had to smash the window with a sledgehammer and he got out. That's just bad design, regardless of computer issues (though computer issues in computer dependent cars is a real problem). With so many cars depending *entirely* upon the electrical system for some very basic things (opening and closing windows and/or doors), there's just no excuse for no backup manual systems. This is, in my mind, a simple - and serious - safety issue. I always feel really uncomfortable in any car that doesn't at least have a totally manual way to open the windows from the inside. Of course, I still only trust manual transmissions as well, so I must just be a Luddite. :-) - -- Melissa PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE/tCxPjVbXUvsE8ukRAjvMAKDSv78+RwfBWGI7IqM912KKLueIEgCdGZ8G up9font6cHkdertAl3GiFEM= =OA/d -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] LG has posted Firmware Fixes for Bum Drives
On Wednesday 12 November 2003 10:14 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: It looks as though LG has posted revised firmware for affected drives and also published a method for reflashing already dead ones. Point your browser to http://us.lgservice.com/ click Device Driver icon click CD-ROM link The first hit is Emergency download for Physical Dead Drive from Mandrake Linux 9.2 There is a .gif attached that explains how to reflash the drives. There are also firmware upgrades for 9 drive models. WDYT? This is great but the english is so broken that I am not sure exactly what to do. First problem is how to boot into MS-DOS mode? Second problem is what the heck does C:W(with a bar through it)temp mean? I can get the light to come on again on the drive but have no idea how to flash the firmware from the discription. Any help is appreciated. Oh, I am trying to revive this drive using a K6II soyo mobo with win2K loaded. -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ripe for plucking ?
On November 13, 2003 12:53 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: Quote from The Globe and Mail about the Novell takeover of S.u.S.E. : quote There could also be some other moves. Other giants might be thinking Linux too. The financially troubled Mandrake Linux is ripe for plucking, especially by a company such as Hewlett-Packard Co., which a few weeks ago delayed release of its next version of HP-UX, a version of UNIX, by as much as a year. And then there's Xandros Linux, which just yesterday released a new version, this one offering compatibility with Microsoft Windows programs, including MS Office and MS networks. By the time the dust settles, the Linux shocks will emerge as the most serious challenge Microsoft has ever faced. The earth clearly hasn't finished moving. /quote Kaj Haulrich. Provided that the bulk of the management, developers and community remains in place and provided that the desktop focus stays I don't see a problem with this. That said, I'm doubtful it will happen. Though, of course, I thought the same thing about HP snapping up that loser Compaq. In many ways it does make sense. IBM, after being snake bit by M$, isn't putting it's eggs in one basket. Hence the bankrolling of RedHat and the kinda backdoor financing of Novell's pick on SuSE. HP would, then, seem logical. If such a thing comes to pass there would be reason for M$ to be worried. Two of it's main FUD attacks will be gone. One that there is no support from a major vendor and the second that open source is designed to drive profit driven companies out of business. The other thing is the sense of inevitability as Linux moves into the server and corporate mainstream. SuSE and Mandrake both lack the resources that Red Hat has to compete in that space. That doesn' t mean that they aren't good competitors it's just that Red Hat has a pocket full of thousand dollar bills while they're sitting there with 20s. Something good will come of all this if these big companies don't forget the strength of Linux is in communities and the developers. If not, well, we'll have to wait and see. ttfn John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT Windows crashes BMW's?
On Thursday 13 November 2003 08:14 pm, Melissa Reese wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Merlin, On Thursday, November 13, 2003, at 3:32:34 AM PST, you wrote: There was a story widely reported in the papers here in Thailand about a Government minister who was locked inside his BMW when it stopped on the highway. Eventually someone had to smash the window with a sledgehammer and he got out. That's just bad design, regardless of computer issues (though computer issues in computer dependent cars is a real problem). With so many cars depending *entirely* upon the electrical system for some very basic things (opening and closing windows and/or doors), there's just no excuse for no backup manual systems. This is, in my mind, a simple - and serious - safety issue. I always feel really uncomfortable in any car that doesn't at least have a totally manual way to open the windows from the inside. Of course, I still only trust manual transmissions as well, so I must just be a Luddite. :-) Nope just an engineering attitude Oh Lord Remember Please The The Law by which we live We can neither Love Pity nor Forgive, Make a misteak in handling us You die Kipling The Secret of the Machines 1896 - -- Melissa PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE/tCxPjVbXUvsE8ukRAjvMAKDSv78+RwfBWGI7IqM912KKLueIEgCdGZ8G up9font6cHkdertAl3GiFEM= =OA/d -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Repairing Perl (was many perl things broken)
Ok, I'm going a little crazy right now. My Linux box hasn't been turned on for 10 days or so which caused 'locate' to give me an error message about the database. I used the command 'updatedb' and then looked for perl5.8.0 once more to insure that I got the directory right. #locate perl5. /usr/bin/sperl5.8.0 Last time I did a locate (11/9/03) there was also a /usr/bin/perl5.8.0 and now there isn't. Ok, fine. I found 'perl-5.8.0-19mdk.i586.rpm' on CD1 and tried to install it using 'urpmi.' -bash: /usr/sbin/urpmi: /usr/bin/perl: bad interpreter: No such file or directory Ok, fine. I tried using 'rpm.' #rpm -Ui perl-5.8.0-19mdk.i586.rpm package perl-5.8.0-19mdk is already installed. (serious head scratching here) After a little time with 'man rpm' I tried to query the package. #rpm -q perl-5.8.0-19mdk.i586.rpm package perl-5.8.0-19mdk.i586.rpm is not installed. Ok, fine. I left the upgrade option out. #rpm -i perl-5.8.0-19mdk.i586.rpm package perl-5.8.0-19mdk is already installed. I'm pretty close to doing a third Microsoft moment (erase the hd and reinstall). I would rather learn what has happened but don't seem to be making any headway at all. Are there times, even with this OS, where reinstalling is the wise thing to do? tia Rich B [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/13/03 12:31AM Symlinks are cake, do a `man ln`. You're looking for the -s option (Symbolic Link) Basic usage in your case would be ln -s /real/path/to/perl5.8.0 /usr/bin/perl5 It certainly looks like it's looking for perl 5.6.1, try the new symlink and see what happens. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Ripe for plucking ?
On Thursday 13 November 2003 08:57 pm, John Wilson wrote: On November 13, 2003 12:53 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: Quote from The Globe and Mail about the Novell takeover of S.u.S.E. : quote There could also be some other moves. Other giants might be thinking Linux too. The financially troubled Mandrake Linux is ripe for plucking, especially by a company such as Hewlett-Packard Co., There are some Mandrake Laptops at HP now seems to be an Engineering Evaluation thing. which a few weeks ago delayed release of its next version of HP-UX, a version of UNIX, by as much as a year. And then there's Xandros Linux, which just yesterday released a new version, this one offering compatibility with Microsoft Windows programs, including MS Office and MS networks. By the time the dust settles, the Linux shocks will emerge as the most serious challenge Microsoft has ever faced. The earth clearly hasn't finished moving. /quote Kaj Haulrich. Provided that the bulk of the management, developers and community remains in place and provided that the desktop focus stays I don't see a problem with this. That said, I'm doubtful it will happen. Though, of course, I thought the same thing about HP snapping up that loser Compaq. In many ways it does make sense. IBM, after being snake bit by M$, isn't putting it's eggs in one basket. Hence the bankrolling of RedHat and the kinda backdoor financing of Novell's pick on SuSE. HP would, then, seem logical. If such a thing comes to pass there would be reason for M$ to be worried. Two of it's main FUD attacks will be gone. One that there is no support from a major vendor and the second that open source is designed to drive profit driven companies out of business. The other thing is the sense of inevitability as Linux moves into the server and corporate mainstream. SuSE and Mandrake both lack the resources that Red Hat has to compete in that space. That doesn' t mean that they aren't good competitors it's just that Red Hat has a pocket full of thousand dollar bills while they're sitting there with 20s. Something good will come of all this if these big companies don't forget the strength of Linux is in communities and the developers. If not, well, we'll have to wait and see. ttfn John Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Best practive for installing a multi boot system, MDK 9.2 and Win XP
Hi folks, I'm a newbie, wouldn't you like to be a newbie too? Anyway, I'm just staring to try out linux. I'm actually mostly a mac user, but I also use Win. I have read many comments about various ways of accomplishing the multi boot system, which I am sure is not an unusual setup. However I lack the background knowledge to make sense of it all. Can someone explain or point me to the information that VERY clearly explains the best way to create a new system from scratch that gives the option upon boot up as to which OS to startup? I am OK with wiping my drive and starting over from scratch as I was planning on doing this as soon as the 9.2 ISO's are available. Thanks a bunch. Gideon Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] MDK 9.2 PowerPack confusion/worries
On November 13, 2003 01:26 pm, Melissa Reese wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi John, Thanks for all your comments...they are helpful and encouraging. For the moment, I'll just reply to this one bit... On Wednesday, November 12, 2003, at 10:28:07 AM PST, you wrote: Well, first, I wrote: 3) As a total newbie getting ready to perform my first Linux installation, should I be concerned enough about these various issues that I should perhaps pay my local computer tech to come over here and hold my hand as I go through this process? Then you replied thusly: You could if your computer tech isn't a Windows weenie who only knows wizards and the MS bible of reinstall if it doesn't work. A hard habit to get out of, I can tell you. I've certainly encountered the type described above, but he's not one of them (as evidenced by his reluctance to simply re-install when he's helped me over the past four years with my troublesome Win98SE and WinME computers...often finding more focused solutions). I feel that I can trust him to help me with my Mandrake installation, as he has a lot of experience with not only Windows, but also Linux distros and Mac. Before he went into business for himself, he was for many years the computer hardware/OS/network guy for Boeing, and dealt with everything from mainframes to the various flavors of PCs and laptops with a variety of OSs. snip He sounds like a good guy, Melissa. I'd lock him in a room, feed him and keep him. :-) Actually, given his background that doesn't surprise me. People that administer complex computing enviornments like Boeing's are used to just about everything there is. Who knows, he might even like Mandrake well enough to visit us here. :-) [Stop reading here if you don't want to bother with some tangential rambling.] Being naturally inclined to digress, I do want to make a *general* comment or two (or three or more!) with regards to the attitudes often expressed by loyalists of one OS or another (not at all pointed at you, John, though this digression is certainly inspired by a concept alluded to in your comment quoted above)... As a long-time Windows user who reads just about everything I can get ahold of when I'm curious about something, I very often encounter - from Linux users more than others - comments that seem uncomfortably elitist (regardless of how possibly justified, or offered with some humor). Because of that, enhanced by the often self-styled perception amongst many Linux users that one must be sufficiently with a clue (as opposed to being clueless Windows wimps) in order to truly appreciate the superiority of Linux over Windows, I see many fellow Windows wimps become discouraged and decide not to even try a Linux distribution. Unfortunately, that's the kind of thing that happens when this sort of rivalry becomes an almost religious issue, and it does nothing for the wider migration of the unwashed masses from Windows to Linux (perhaps a very reasonable and desirable thing). The same sort of religious debate can happen in many areas...even in sea kayaking (those who believe in rudders versus those who don't, etc.). Just for the record, I believe the only true path to enlightenment is rudderless! ;-) I am one to speak my mind, especially if I feel some kind of truth is on my side, and I can also easily understand and even appreciate the humor in comments I often read from Linux users with regards to Windows (and its users...myself included), but other people might be more sensitive to what they consider elitism of any sort, and if you really do want more people to consider alternatives to Windows - and Linux disros in particular - perhaps even the *appearance* of elitism is something to consider avoiding. Ironically, isn't Linux supposed to be more of a for the people thing than Windows? If so, elitism really has no place in its culture...especially in places like news groups and mail lists where curious Windows wimps might be exploring the idea of a possible migration to Linux based OSs. Whew!...got my little rant-o-the-day out of the way, so I can now climb into my kayak and go visit my whale friends (who don't care one way or the other about Linux or Windows! :-)). - -- Melissa PGP public keys: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Body=Please%20send%20keys -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iD8DBQE/s/ZFjVbXUvsE8ukRAsb0AKDoR2cmQoz4B7y9Pd9xJRVvhm8cKwCgxlwx aaiFZ/wPlHFfK9QpgkUNu28= =36vo -END PGP SIGNATURE- I'm not one for religious wars, usually. Whether it has to do with rudders on kayaks or operating systems. (I tend to be rudderless myself. :) ) I used the term windows weenie to describe that too often encountered MSCE who really hasn't a clue about networking and shouldn't be let near anytning but a standalone PC. Not their fault, really, the training is awful. Still, I've had more trouble reports from these people
Re: [newbie] Repairing Perl (was many perl things broken)
just a small point. to query an installed package, ommit the .i586.rpm e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED] downloads-linux]$ rpm -q perl-5.8.1-0.RC4.2mdk.i586.rpm package perl-5.8.1-0.RC4.2mdk.i586.rpm is not installed [EMAIL PROTECTED] downloads-linux]$ rpm -q perl-5.8.1-0.RC4.2mdk perl-5.8.1-0.RC4.2mdk [EMAIL PROTECTED] downloads-linux]$ bascule On Friday 14 Nov 2003 2:24 am, Richard Babcock wrote: here) After a little time with 'man rpm' I tried to query the package. #rpm -q perl-5.8.0-19mdk.i586.rpm package perl-5.8.0-19mdk.i586.rpm is not installed. Ok, fine. I left the upgrade option out. #rpm -i perl-5.8.0-19mdk.i586.rpm package perl-5.8.0-19mdk is already installed. -- 'What can I do? I'm only human,' he said aloud. Someone said, Not all of you. (Pyramids) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] The name of show desktop process ??
On Thursday 13 November 2003 11:05 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello there What is the name of process (command) that makesshow desktop work ??? and where is it ?? Thanks Hertas From googling a bit: the show desktop and K icons are not aplications like the other icons, and there is no command you can use. You wanted to change the icons in an earlier post. To change the icon you can either install a complete new set of icons... Or you can find the file for the current icon, back it up and substitute your new one for it. Yout current icon depends on your current theme and the current size of the icons in the panel. Through experimenting I found that I currently use this icon: path to KDE/share/icons/crystalsvg/32x32/filesystems/desktop.png when I move the mouse over the current icon on the desktop it animates slightly by showing a larger icon, that icon is stored here: path to KDE/share/icons/crystalsvg/48x48/filesystems/desktop.png I'm using the crystalsvg theme, with 32x32 pixel icons then... Yours may differ if you use a different theme or different sized panel, just figure out where yours are looking in the subdirectories of KDE/share/icons with konqueror. I use path to KDE because I'm not running mandrake at the moment (using LFS) and so I'm not certain of the whole path. Once you know the path to your desktop.png icon(s), then as root rename them desktop.png.old. Get new icons matching the sizes of those you are replacing. Move your new icons into the correct folders and rename them as desktop.png. KDE will use them when it restarts. If you want to do the K icons, mine is here: path to KDE/share/icons/crystalsvg/32x32/apps/kmenu.png I think the go.png icon in the same subdirectory is used with some themes. Now my show desktop looks like favorites, until I move the mouse over it and it turns into an ftp icon. I'm too lazy to change it back. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Best practive for installing a multi boot system, MDK 9.2 and Win XP
On Friday 14 November 2003 09:32 pm, gideon wrote: Hi folks, I'm a newbie, wouldn't you like to be a newbie too? Anyway, I'm just staring to try out linux. I'm actually mostly a mac user, but I also use Win. Well, with that being the case, let me point out an etiquette breach that you made that many newbies are guilty of. You hijacked a thread, meaning that you took a post to the list, replied to it and then cleared the subject. Unfortunately, there is a message ID in the headers which is included in the In-Reply-To: field that most mail clients use to thread messages. If the subject of a thread drifts, it is proper, and even desired, to change the subject to reflect what the discussion has become. This is so mail filtering and scoring routines can properly deal with the messages. Many posters, apparently in an effort to save themselves the time it takes to post a new message, simply reply to any message, delete the whole thing and change the subject. This is annoying, because my mail client threads by the message ID, so in a thread about postfix mail headers, you get this (please excuse my ascii art): Re: [expert] Postfix Headers |-Re: [expert] Postfix Headers | |-[expert] Public downloadable 9.2 iso images |-Re: [expert] Postfix Headers |-Re: [expert] Postfix Headers |-Re: [expert] Postfix Headers I have read many comments about various ways of accomplishing the multi boot system, which I am sure is not an unusual setup. However I lack the background knowledge to make sense of it all. Can someone explain or point me to the information that VERY clearly explains the best way to create a new system from scratch that gives the option upon boot up as to which OS to startup? Install Windows, install Linux, that's it. Mandrake will automatically set up your system with a menu that will let you choose which OS to boot. You probably haven't seen a lot of detail about how to do it because you don't have to do anything. Once you go beyond dual-boot to multi-boot some serious reading of the man pages for the boot loaders is in order, but for simple Windows/Linux dual-boot you don't have to do anything but install Windows first. I am OK with wiping my drive and starting over from scratch as I was planning on doing this as soon as the 9.2 ISO's are available. Have fun and come here for help. There are lots of helpful people here that will help you through whatever the problem is. Thanks a bunch. Anytime. -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Best practive for installing a multi boot system, MDK 9.2 and Win XP
On Friday 14 November 2003 09:32 pm, gideon wrote: Hi folks, I'm a newbie, wouldn't you like to be a newbie too? Anyway, I'm just staring to try out linux. I'm actually mostly a mac user, but I also use Win. I have read many comments about various ways of accomplishing the multi boot system, which I am sure is not an unusual setup. However I lack the background knowledge to make sense of it all. Can someone explain or point me to the information that VERY clearly explains the best way to create a new system from scratch that gives the option upon boot up as to which OS to startup? I am OK with wiping my drive and starting over from scratch as I was planning on doing this as soon as the 9.2 ISO's are available. Thanks a bunch. Gideon Gideon: First of all, you might want to read up on why hijacking of threads is considered inappropriate behavior on our twiki at: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette In spite of what you may have heard about the wonders of Linux, it _is not_ true that it includes the ability to read your mind. IOW, tell us more about the system upon which you intend to load Mandrake -- in your case, referring to both Macs and Windows machines is especially confusing. If we know where you're at, we have a better chance of telling you how to get to where you want to go. If you are talking some breed of Windows machine, all it really takes is some free HD space, and compatible hardware. (Poke around on the twiki site (above) -- and Mandrake's home page, too). If everything seems cool, just pop the first CD in the drive and go for it. My experience has been that the defaults work nicely. If they don't, there are usually workarounds. In most cases, the installation routine will handle the dual boot setup without any hassle. The whole drill shouldn't take much more than an hour. Hint: The defaults usually work, but it is a good idea to read the fine print. If the defaults cause problems, we're here. -- cmg Friday the 13th falls on a Thursday this month. (Churchy LaFemme) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Repairing Perl (was many perl things broken)
bascule wrote: just a small point. to query an installed package, ommit the .i586.rpm e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED] downloads-linux]$ rpm -q perl-5.8.1-0.RC4.2mdk.i586.rpm package perl-5.8.1-0.RC4.2mdk.i586.rpm is not installed [EMAIL PROTECTED] downloads-linux]$ rpm -q perl-5.8.1-0.RC4.2mdk perl-5.8.1-0.RC4.2mdk [EMAIL PROTECTED] downloads-linux]$ bascule On Friday 14 Nov 2003 2:24 am, Richard Babcock wrote: here) After a little time with 'man rpm' I tried to query the package. #rpm -q perl-5.8.0-19mdk.i586.rpm package perl-5.8.0-19mdk.i586.rpm is not installed. Ok, fine. I left the upgrade option out. #rpm -i perl-5.8.0-19mdk.i586.rpm package perl-5.8.0-19mdk is already installed. force the install.. rpm -ivh perl- --force Since we know its broken, and overwritting it isn't gonna hurt, its worth trying as the reinstall might fix broken symlinks and stuff. rgds Franki -- Please sign our petition to encourage notebook manufacturers to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html For free scripts, online webmaster tools, HTML, XHTML, Perl PHP tutorials and stuff, visit: http://htmlfixit.com, Free web developer resources. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] home network Mandrake howto
Hello, I have not been able to find a simple step by step howto for home networking. So far, I have absolutely no experience in networking, or any IP address stuff. Right now, I have a friend's computer at home and I would like 1- to share the internet connection with my own computer's adsl. 2- be able to do file transfer from one computer to the other. To start with, I am not sure I have all the required hardware: I don't have a hub or (obviously) a dedicated server. My computer has two ethernet cards, one being connected to my adsl modem. My friend's computer also has an ethernet card. What I did is connect my second ethernet card to the second computer's card directly, with a cable running from one card to the other. I am not sure that's the proper way to do it... all the beautiful graphs I find on the internet picture little box, whatever it's called, that sits between the two computers. I don't have that and I don't know if it is possible to connect the two computers the way I did. Next, I tried to run the configuration wizard in MCC on both computers, on mine to share the internet connection, and on my friend computer to set a LAN connection, but so far no good. I am not sure what I am missing and I can't find a mandrake specific step by step howto. I created this page here: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/HomeNetworking You can write your reply directly there, so that other can benefit from your answers, or to the list and I'll put everything there afterwards. thanks Augustin -- Linux. The Future is Open. If Linux were a person, he would be growing, fast. Taught by the best. Gaining wisdom beyond his years. And sharing. He would be in business, education, government and homes. He would be a nine-year-old boy changing the world. IBM about Linux http://www-3.ibm.com/e-business/doc/content/lp/prodigy.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Great Interview with RMS
On Thursday 13 November 2003 07:55 pm, robin wrote: Does he still start lists with zero? Sir Robin and wears old computer parts... :-) -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT Windows crashes BMW's?
On Thursday 13 November 2003 08:14 pm, Melissa Reese wrote: I always feel really uncomfortable in any car that doesn't at least have a totally manual way to open the windows from the inside. Of course, I still only trust manual transmissions as well, so I must just be a Luddite. :-) Nah, I've got a 5-speed, stick shift and wouldn't have it any other way. :-) -- /\ DarkLord \/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] home network Mandrake howto
On Thursday 13 November 2003 11:33 pm, Anguo wrote: Hello, I have not been able to find a simple step by step howto for home networking. So far, I have absolutely no experience in networking, or any IP address stuff. This is older, but might be helpful http://www.mandrakeuser.org/docs/connect/index.html#lfs Right now, I have a friend's computer at home and I would like 1- to share the internet connection with my own computer's adsl. 2- be able to do file transfer from one computer to the other. To start with, I am not sure I have all the required hardware: I don't have a hub or (obviously) a dedicated server. My computer has two ethernet cards, one being connected to my adsl modem. My friend's computer also has an ethernet card. What I did is connect my second ethernet card to the second computer's card directly, with a cable running from one card to the other. I am not sure that's the proper way to do it... all the beautiful graphs I find on the internet picture little box, whatever it's called, that sits between the two computers. I don't have that and I don't know if it is possible to connect the two computers the way I did. Next, I tried to run the configuration wizard in MCC on both computers, on mine to share the internet connection, and on my friend computer to set a LAN connection, but so far no good. I am not sure what I am missing and I can't find a mandrake specific step by step howto. I created this page here: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/HomeNetworking You can write your reply directly there, so that other can benefit from your answers, or to the list and I'll put everything there afterwards. thanks Augustin -- /g Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read -Groucho Marx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] mirror speed checker
Tango Echo wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Phil Newcombe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 10:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [newbie] mirror speed checker
Hi all.
Here's a bash script I found looking for something
that would poll
(ping) Mandrake mirrors and return the result rated
by speed like
apt-netselect does in Debian. I hacked it up a bit
to make it
work with
the mirror list (README_mirrors) and I'm no guru
so.
I probably should've tested it before my orginal post
to this thread. Oh well. I've run into a problem.
This is what I get when I run the script:
tmp]$ sh cheker README.mirrors
Testing tr: invalid option -- n
Try `tr --help' for more information.
cheker: line 69: syntax error near unexpected token
`newline'
cheker: line 69: `then grep rtt
$tmpdir/ping$$_$h | cut -d/ -f 5 | tr \n'
This is rather confusing since tr has the valid option
of \n. Here's a copy of the script below,
TIA,
Tango
Thanks for trying it out. It worked fine for me on my 9.2 box - some
minor erroneous ping results but otherwise very helpful. I'm sorry,
like I said, I'm no guru. I had to change a couple of the grep lines
because, I think, they referred to ping message lines from a different
ping than mine. Try pinging something and look at the messages it
returns. It should say something like 'round trip time'. I think that
is what 'rtt' refers to here. Then you have to change the grep
expression to match. If your grep doesn't have a match for 'rtt' it'll
probably just die because it seems as each command must complete without
error or the following commands make no sense. Upon closer inspection I
think I posted the original version and not the one I used. I'll boot
up Mandrake to see and get back to you.
--
pn
###
#!/bin/sh
# sort_mirrors_by_speed by A.Mennucci Nov 97
#
# this program is subject to the
# GNU general public license
#
# this program will scan the file in $1 using
# grep \.[a-zA-Z]*: $1 | awk '{print $1}'
# to find mirror site host names.
#
# the string before the : character is considered
to be a
# mirror site host name
#
# Mirror sites are pinged and statistics are
collected and sorted #
if [ $1 = -h -o $1 = --help ] ; then
echo Usage: $0 mirrorfile
echo Argument must be the file README.mirrors
echo containing a list of debian mirrors.
echo This program will ping all mirrors with 4
packets
echo to test their speed and reliability, and then
will echo sort the result, put it in file
mirrors_by_speed and show the
best.
exit 0
fi
tmpdir=~/tmp
# warning: using the directory /tmp and running this
script
# as root is a potential security problem
if ! [ -w $tmpdir ] ; then
echo $0 ERROR dir $tmpdir is not writable
echo please create it if it does not exist
exit 1
fi
if [ ! -r $1 -o $1 = ] ; then
echo $0 ERROR Give as argument the file
README.mirrors
echo containing a list of debian mirrors
exit 1
fi
if [ -r mirrors_by_speed ] ; then
echo $0 ERROR the file mirrors_by_speed already
exists
exit 1
fi
#touch $tmpdir/mirrors_by_speed
n=0
echo -n Testing
grep [a-zA-Z] $1 | awk '{print $1}' | wc --lines |
tr \n echo debian mirror sites for speed and
reliability. echo -n Tests done :
#for i in ` grep [a-zA-Z]*: $1 | awk '{print $1}' `
;
for i in `grep [a-z]* $1 | cut -d/ -f 1 | awk
'{print $1}' ` ; do
n=`expr $n + 1 `
(
h=$n
#echo TEST $h for $i
#if ping -c 6 `echo $i | cut -d: -f 1`
$tmpdir/ping$$_$h;
if ping -c 6 `echo $i` $tmpdir/ping$$_$h;
then grep rtt $tmpdir/ping$$_$h | cut -d/ -f 5
| tr \n
$tmpdir/mirrors_by_speed_$h
echo -n ms AVERAGE ,
$tmpdir/mirrors_by_speed_$h
grep received $tmpdir/ping$$_$h | cut -d, -f 3
| tr \n ,
$tmpdir/mirrors_by_speed_$h
echo SITE $i $tmpdir/mirrors_by_speed_$h
#cat $tmpdir/mirrors_by_speed_$h
cat $tmpdir/mirrors_by_speed_$h
mirrors_by_speed
rm $tmpdir/mirrors_by_speed_$h
fi
rm $tmpdir/ping$$_$h
echo -n $h
)
# we do not want to flood the net; we test 30 sites
at a time
# then we wait 8 seconds so that most of the pings
will be done
if [ `expr $n % 30 ` = 0 ] ; then sleep 8 ; fi
done
wait
echo .
echo Fastest mirrors are:
mv mirrors_by_speed mirrors_by_speed~
sort -n mirrors_by_speed~ mirrors_by_speed
head mirrors_by_speed
# end of scriptd~
sort -n mirrors_by_speed~ mirrors_by_speed
head mirrors_by_speed
# end of scriptript
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Re: [newbie] mirror speed checker
Phil Newcombe wrote:
Thanks for trying it out. It worked fine for me on my 9.2 box - some
minor erroneous ping results but otherwise very helpful. I'm sorry,
like I said, I'm no guru. I had to change a couple of the grep lines
because, I think, they referred to ping message lines from a different
ping than mine. Try pinging something and look at the messages it
returns. It should say something like 'round trip time'. I think
that is what 'rtt' refers to here. Then you have to change the grep
expression to match. If your grep doesn't have a match for 'rtt'
it'll probably just die because it seems as each command must complete
without error or the following commands make no sense. Upon closer
inspection I think I posted the original version and not the one I
used. I'll boot up Mandrake to see and get back to you.
--
pn
OK it's the right script but the wrong ping. I'll try to figure out
what you need from your previous post.
--
pn
###
#!/bin/sh
# sort_mirrors_by_speed by A.Mennucci Nov 97
#
# this program is subject to the
# GNU general public license
#
# this program will scan the file in $1 using
# grep \.[a-zA-Z]*: $1 | awk '{print $1}'
# to find mirror site host names.
#
# the string before the : character is considered
to be a
# mirror site host name
#
# Mirror sites are pinged and statistics are
collected and sorted #
if [ $1 = -h -o $1 = --help ] ; then
echo Usage: $0 mirrorfile
echo Argument must be the file README.mirrors
echo containing a list of debian mirrors.
echo This program will ping all mirrors with 4
packets
echo to test their speed and reliability, and then
will echo sort the result, put it in file
mirrors_by_speed and show the best.
exit 0
fi
tmpdir=~/tmp
# warning: using the directory /tmp and running this
script
# as root is a potential security problem
if ! [ -w $tmpdir ] ; then
echo $0 ERROR dir $tmpdir is not writable
echo please create it if it does not exist
exit 1
fi
if [ ! -r $1 -o $1 = ] ; then
echo $0 ERROR Give as argument the file
README.mirrors
echo containing a list of debian mirrors
exit 1
fi
if [ -r mirrors_by_speed ] ; then
echo $0 ERROR the file mirrors_by_speed already
exists
exit 1
fi
#touch $tmpdir/mirrors_by_speed
n=0
echo -n Testing
grep [a-zA-Z] $1 | awk '{print $1}' | wc --lines |
tr \n echo debian mirror sites for speed and
reliability. echo -n Tests done :
#for i in ` grep [a-zA-Z]*: $1 | awk '{print $1}' `
;
for i in `grep [a-z]* $1 | cut -d/ -f 1 | awk
'{print $1}' ` ; do
n=`expr $n + 1 `
(
h=$n
#echo TEST $h for $i
#if ping -c 6 `echo $i | cut -d: -f 1`
$tmpdir/ping$$_$h;
if ping -c 6 `echo $i` $tmpdir/ping$$_$h;
then grep rtt $tmpdir/ping$$_$h | cut -d/ -f 5
| tr \n$tmpdir/mirrors_by_speed_$h
echo -n ms AVERAGE ,
$tmpdir/mirrors_by_speed_$h
grep received $tmpdir/ping$$_$h | cut -d, -f 3
| tr \n , $tmpdir/mirrors_by_speed_$h
echo SITE $i $tmpdir/mirrors_by_speed_$h
#cat $tmpdir/mirrors_by_speed_$h
cat $tmpdir/mirrors_by_speed_$h
mirrors_by_speed
rm $tmpdir/mirrors_by_speed_$h
fi
rm $tmpdir/ping$$_$h
echo -n $h
)
# we do not want to flood the net; we test 30 sites
at a time
# then we wait 8 seconds so that most of the pings
will be done
if [ `expr $n % 30 ` = 0 ] ; then sleep 8 ; fi
done
wait
echo .
echo Fastest mirrors are:
mv mirrors_by_speed mirrors_by_speed~
sort -n mirrors_by_speed~ mirrors_by_speed
head mirrors_by_speed
# end of scriptd~
sort -n mirrors_by_speed~ mirrors_by_speed
head mirrors_by_speed
# end of scriptript
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Re: [newbie] Best practive for installing a multi boot system, MDK 9.2 and Win XP
ah, my appologese. I have never hijacked anything before and I did't know I had it in me. I will certianly read the twiki page on it. thanks for the other comments. I'll be back. gideon On Thursday 13 November 2003 10:34 pm, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Friday 14 November 2003 09:32 pm, gideon wrote: Hi folks, I'm a newbie, wouldn't you like to be a newbie too? Anyway, I'm just staring to try out linux. I'm actually mostly a mac user, but I also use Win. I have read many comments about various ways of accomplishing the multi boot system, which I am sure is not an unusual setup. However I lack the background knowledge to make sense of it all. Can someone explain or point me to the information that VERY clearly explains the best way to create a new system from scratch that gives the option upon boot up as to which OS to startup? I am OK with wiping my drive and starting over from scratch as I was planning on doing this as soon as the 9.2 ISO's are available. Thanks a bunch. Gideon Gideon: First of all, you might want to read up on why hijacking of threads is considered inappropriate behavior on our twiki at: http://mandrake.vmlinuz.ca/bin/view/Main/MandrakeMailingListEtiquette In spite of what you may have heard about the wonders of Linux, it _is not_ true that it includes the ability to read your mind. IOW, tell us more about the system upon which you intend to load Mandrake -- in your case, referring to both Macs and Windows machines is especially confusing. If we know where you're at, we have a better chance of telling you how to get to where you want to go. If you are talking some breed of Windows machine, all it really takes is some free HD space, and compatible hardware. (Poke around on the twiki site (above) -- and Mandrake's home page, too). If everything seems cool, just pop the first CD in the drive and go for it. My experience has been that the defaults work nicely. If they don't, there are usually workarounds. In most cases, the installation routine will handle the dual boot setup without any hassle. The whole drill shouldn't take much more than an hour. Hint: The defaults usually work, but it is a good idea to read the fine print. If the defaults cause problems, we're here. -- cmg Friday the 13th falls on a Thursday this month. (Churchy LaFemme) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
