Re: [newbie] Question about Linux partition

2004-08-30 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Sun, 2004-08-29 at 20:40, Paul Smith wrote:
 Hoyt Bailey wrote:
 I have 12GB of my hard disk assigned to Mandrake. However,
 the command df -h produces the following:
 
 FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part6
4,5G  1,7G  2,6G  40% /
 /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1
7,8G  5,9G  2,0G  76% /mnt/windows
 
 Should it not appear 12G instead of 4,5G?
 
 Also, there may be a partition that isn't being
 mounted...forgot to mention that mate...
  
  There is no swap part listed and the total adds up to 12.3 GB + 
  swap.  How big is the drive?
 
 Hoyt,
 
 As Stephen correctly guessed, what was missing was not mounted.
 
 Paul

If you ever want verification of how a drive is partitioned, just do

fdisk -l /dev/hd?

At a root shell.  It will just dump the partition layout to the shell.

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Re: [newbie] Existential Linux Question

2004-08-30 Thread PM
On Mon, 2004-08-30 at 01:35, Richard Urwin wrote:
 Sorry if I jumped down your throat. I'm following this SCO et al debacle 
 fairly closely, and you hit a trigger phrase.
 
 (as you know, Ken Brown, [probably bank-rolled by MS,] has accused Linus 
 of copying MINIX when creating Linux. That would be an unlicensed use 
 of MINIX and if it were true would call into question the legality of 
 Linux.)


The developer of Minix, Andrew Tanenbaum, has stated that this is not
the case. 

See his comments at:

http://www.cs.vu.nl/~ast/brown/

and

http://www.cs.vu.nl/~ast/brown/followup/

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Re: [newbie] Existential Linux Question

2004-08-30 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Sun, 2004-08-29 at 19:51, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
 On Monday 30 August 2004 00:35, Richard Urwin wrote:
  Sorry if I jumped down your throat. I'm following this SCO et al
  debacle fairly closely, and you hit a trigger phrase.
 
  (as you know, Ken Brown, [probably bank-rolled by MS,] has
  accused Linus of copying MINIX when creating Linux. That would be
  an unlicensed use of MINIX and if it were true would call into
  question the legality of Linux.)
 
 Linus wrote wrote the first version of his code on Minix, yes. Does 
 that mean, that if someone writes a love-letter using Microsoft 
 Word that Bill and Steve have a date ?
 
 Does Remington own James Joyce's Ulysses because it was typed on a 
 Remington typewriter ?
 
 Does Gutenberg own the Bible ?
 
 Does the goose own the works of Shakespeare because it was written 
 with a feather ?
 
 And so on.
 
 Professor Tanenbaum - who wrote Minix - explicitely declared, that 
 there is NO Minix-code in Linux. Period.

Not only that Kaj but if memory serves me correctly I believe Tanenbaum
explicitly gave Linus permission to use the code anyway.  I came across
a set of those emails when I was researching the legality issues
surrounding the pwx.o hooks for phillips webcam.

LX

 
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Re: [newbie] New installation KDE is broken

2004-08-30 Thread Marc


On Sunday 30 May 2004 09:30 am, Q.H. Wang wrote:
 During my attempts to install MDK 10.0, I also got some X hang up by
 choosing some wrong graphic card (Raedon). I then found itis fine by
 selecting Raedon 7500.

 I also got some ( maybe one or two tenth of my bootings) blue screen during
 bootup when I set my monitor as generic flat panel 1024*768. It's solved
 later by setting right monitor.

 Sorry if these are not helpful.


   Thanks to all that replyed. You folks were correct it was a video card 
problem,
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Re: [newbie] GPS and Linux

2004-08-30 Thread Cdrack





You can find some GPS proyects at www.freshmeat.net


El lun, 30-08-2004 a las 16:49, Rick Kunath escribi:

SME Server Admin wrote:

 
 There are apparently some open source things for Linux, but I've not found 
 anything suitable just yet.
 

Snip

 MS Autoroute, Infomap Navigator, Memory Map, GPS Utility, GPS VisualRoute, 
 MapSource,
 
Snip

I am looking for Linux GPS mapping software too.

Grass doesn't do what I need, Viking either.

I am hoping to find something like QuakeMap under M$ for Linux. QuakeMap 
is a utility for displaying Terraserver topo and aerial photos in a much 
larger area than the limitations of the Terraserver web site. It also 
stores maps in case you need them while out in the field and offline. 
Waypoints and routes can be imported or created and displayed on topos, 
aerial photos, or aerials with topos superimposed.

I'd like to find something that runs on Linux with these capabilities. 
Is there anything out there that would do this sort of job?

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[newbie] Archives

2004-08-30 Thread Alan
Good day all

I asked a while ago about setting up a squid proxy server to do
authentication and somebody gave me a couple of URL's to look at and
being an idiot I did not save them.

I tried looking in the archives but the dates only go to 2003-11.. Is
this list still archived and if so where.

Alternatively you could just point me to the proxy authentication how to
guide again.

Many Thanks

I promise I will save the URL this time.




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[newbie] KDE 3.3 on Mandrake 10

2004-08-30 Thread Paul Smith
Dear All
I would like to ask you whether it is safe to install KDE 3.3 (with 
Konstruct) on Mandrake 10? Has someone succeeded with this enterprise?

Thanks in advance,
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[newbie] CUPS

2004-08-30 Thread Steve



I am trying to install a printer in Mandrake 10 but 
each time it gets to the point where it installs CUPS it fails and says CUPS 
could not be installed. I am logged in as ROOT. Any ideas?

Thanks,
Steve


Re: [newbie] Archives

2004-08-30 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Monday 30 August 2004 04:14 pm, Alan wrote:
 I promise I will save the URL this time.

http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2001/08/09/authen_squid.html

http://www.wizdom.org.uk/linux/squid.shtml

http://www.siliconvalleyccie.com/linux-adv/squid.htm

http://www.pycs.net/lateral/stories/6.html
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RE: [newbie] CUPS

2004-08-30 Thread Ayares, Mark (Mark)



I had 
cups printer problems as well. I found using a web browser and pointing to 
http://localhost:631made installing 
printers real easy.

Make 
sure cups service is started first in the services 
controller.

Mark

  -Original Message-From: Steve 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 5:00 
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [newbie] 
  CUPS
  I am trying to install a printer in Mandrake 10 
  but each time it gets to the point where it installs CUPS it fails and says 
  CUPS could not be installed. I am logged in as ROOT. Any ideas?
  
  Thanks,
  Steve


Re: [newbie] Archives

2004-08-30 Thread Todd Slater
On Mon, Aug 30, 2004 at 10:14:13PM +0200, Alan wrote:
 Good day all
 
 I asked a while ago about setting up a squid proxy server to do
 authentication and somebody gave me a couple of URL's to look at and
 being an idiot I did not save them.
 
 I tried looking in the archives but the dates only go to 2003-11.. Is
 this list still archived and if so where.
 
 Alternatively you could just point me to the proxy authentication how to
 guide again.
 
 Many Thanks
 
 I promise I will save the URL this time.

For your archive needs note that the weekly Welcome to Newbie mail
contains links to the archives.

Todd


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Re: [newbie] KDE 3.3 on Mandrake 10

2004-08-30 Thread Thereidos
W licie z pon, 30-08-2004, godz. 22:07, Paul Smith pisze: 
 Dear All
 
 I would like to ask you whether it is safe to install KDE 3.3 (with 
 Konstruct) on Mandrake 10? Has someone succeeded with this enterprise?
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Paul

I've tried to install KDE with Konstruct when it still was in alpha
stage but soon I realised that doing so manually is a much better
solution.

Nonetheless I would suggest to wait for rpms as I do.
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Re: [newbie] Hard Drive Issues

2004-08-30 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Monday 30 August 2004 14:16, BJ Tracy wrote:
 On Monday 30 August 2004 01:23 pm, Hoyt Bailey wrote:
  On Monday 30 August 2004 11:53, BJ Tracy wrote:
snip
 
  I would reboot after restore though the experts would likely
  say you dont have to but for peace of mind I would.  If you
  used mccbackup then using mccrestore should be ok.  I have
  only had to restore 1 file from backup and it worked ok, 
  but someone else should answer that question.

 SNIP
 So can you restore single files at a time using Mandrake
 Control Center ?   If so since my system is running great now,
  can I restore everything but system files ?
 bj
If you select configure-system-backup-restore
You will be presented with several optione, Search for files to 
restore, Restore all backups, Custom restore, Restore from 
catalog. System files are the /etc directory and Custom restore 
I believe gives you that option, just deselect, or do not 
select, restore system.
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Re: [newbie] [OT] sylpheed-claws gtk2 cvs

2004-08-30 Thread JoeHill
On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 18:13:12 -0500
John Drouhard disseminated the following:

 The *only* thing wrong with it at this point is that it doesn't compile
 with pgpmime or gnupg correctly. JoeHill, you wanna give this a try and
 see if you can get it to work?

Last time I tried, I couldn't even get it to compile, but ya, I'll give it a
shot soon's the ankle chains are in bed ;-)

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[newbie] Mandrake Backup

2004-08-30 Thread linuxnbe
Dear All

I have an IDE HP Colorado backup unit (20GB) that I'm trying to get working
preferably with Mandrake Backup (it has a GUI and email facility and the
client knows the program) on Mandrake 10. I have the tape unit up and
running insofar as:

dmesg lists it as hdd and then as ht0 (as expected)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# dmesg | grep hdd
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio
hdd: HP COLORADO 20GB, ATAPI TAPE drive
ide-tape: hdd - ht0: HP COLORADO 20GB rev 4.01
ide-tape: hdd: overriding capabilities-speed (assuming 650KB/sec)
ide-tape: hdd: overriding capabilities-max_speed (assuming 650KB/sec)
ide-tape: hdd - ht0: 650KBps, 13*32kB buffer, 6336kB pipeline, 100ms tDSC,
DMA

mt -f /dev/ht0 status gives me no errors
SCSI 2 tape drive:
File number=0, block number=0, partition=0.
Tape block size 512 bytes. Density code 0x0 (default).
Soft error count since last status=0
General status bits on (0):

and I can echo the $TAPE variable (I have it in /etc/profile)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# echo $TAPE
/dev/tape


I know it is working as I can use it in Taper without problems. But Taper
has only untested support for IDE drives and only the beta has support for
drives with over 4GB. So I don't want to use it in a production situation.

When I go into Mandrake Backup though it always says no devices found in
the tape section. Does Mandrake Backup support IDE drives? Anybody got one
to work?

Your assistance appreciated.

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Re: [newbie] [OT] sylpheed-claws gtk2 cvs

2004-08-30 Thread JoeHill
On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 18:13:12 -0500
John Drouhard disseminated the following:

 The *only* thing wrong with it at this point is that it doesn't compile
 with pgpmime or gnupg correctly. JoeHill, you wanna give this a try and
 see if you can get it to work?

Dang, just gave it a shot, I need GTK 2.4 (still running 9.2, dontcha know). I
can't remember now, is that a huge pain to update?

Sheesh, look at my load avg, I gotta take it easy on this poor ol' box!

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[newbie] MDK 9.2 Update to GTK 2.4

2004-08-30 Thread JoeHill

John Drouhard's post about the GTK2 port of Claws has lead me to a more
fundamental question.

Has anyone running 9.2 successfully updated their libgtk and all associated libs
to 2.4, and if so how?

And no, I'm not installing 10.0 for the time being.

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Re: [newbie] FTP Server

2004-08-30 Thread Brian Parish
On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 01:45, SME Server Admin wrote:
 On Monday 23 Aug 2004 06:40, Wally Brown wrote:
  Anyone know how to configure the FTP server to change which folder it
  points to?
  I would like to be able to point my account to my web server folder to
  allow for remote file updates.
 
  Wally
 
Depending on which ftp server software you are using, there will be an
associated conf file in /etc.  Assuming you are using proftp, just edit 
/etc/proftpd.conf and add a line like this:

DefaultRoot /home/www my-account

Other FTP servers will have similar arrangements.  This also chroots you
so that this directory becomes your root directory when using ftp.

HTH
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Re: [newbie] CUPS

2004-08-30 Thread Cdrack




Seems to me like you dont have CUPS installed jet, so I recomend you to install all the CUPS RPMS befor trying to install the printer.

After doing that you can use the web configuration tool for cups http://localhost:631

Cdrack.

El lun, 30-08-2004 a las 21:00, Steve escribi:

I am trying to install a printer in Mandrake 10 but each time it gets to the point where it installs CUPS it fails and says CUPS could not be installed. I am logged in as ROOT. Any ideas?

Thanks,
Steve





[newbie] A little OT - iRiver iHP-140

2004-08-30 Thread Brian Parish
Has anyone tried one of these hard drive players with Mandrake?  The ogg
support and capacity makes it look good, but I wouldn't want to have to
boot doze to load it!

TIA
Brian



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Re: [newbie] MDK 9.2 Update to GTK 2.4

2004-08-30 Thread Guy Rouillier
On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 18:34:36 -0400
JoeHill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 John Drouhard's post about the GTK2 port of Claws has lead me to a
 more fundamental question.
 
 Has anyone running 9.2 successfully updated their libgtk and all
 associated libs to 2.4, and if so how?
 
 And no, I'm not installing 10.0 for the time being.

That wouldn't do it anyway.  10.0 is still 2.2, you need 10.1
to get 2.4.  God knows when Mandrake will get around to that for AMD64,
so I've been playing around with Gentoo.

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[newbie] xsessionerrors file growing

2004-08-30 Thread warren
hi all,
while trying to work out why i couldnt burn dvds i happened to check 
the .xsessionerrors file which wouldnt open.

Eventually i opened it with tail -f and it spewed forth:
ASSERT: i = nodes in /usr/lib/qt3/include/qvaluelist.h (372)
ASSERT: i = nodes in /usr/lib/qt3/include/qvaluelist.h (372)
ASSERT: i = nodes in /usr/lib/qt3/include/qvaluelist.h (372)
ASSERT: i = nodes in /usr/lib/qt3/include/qvaluelist.h (372)
ASSERT: i = nodes in /usr/lib/qt3/include/qvaluelist.h (372)
ASSERT: i = nodes in /usr/lib/qt3/include/qvaluelist.h (372)
ASSERT: i = nodes in /usr/lib/qt3/include/qvaluelist.h (372)
ASSERT: i = nodes in /usr/lib/qt3/include/qvaluelist.h (372)
ASSERT: i = nodes in /usr/lib/qt3/include/qvaluelist.h (372)
ASSERT: i = nodes in /usr/lib/qt3/include/qvaluelist.h (372)
and proceeded to do so at the rate of 3 or 4 lines a second. I have just 
recently installed MDK 10 on a new HDD.

Every day as soon as i turn my machine on the file starts to grow, and 
although it only grows by MB or so an hour this cant been good for things.

Any ideas?

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Re: [newbie] CUPS

2004-08-30 Thread Steve



After I intsall CUPS from the RPMs and then go to 
Configure your hardwarePrinters, it tries to load CUPS again, opens the 
packages to install it (even though I have already installed it) and then fails 
with the message CUPS cannot be installed. It does this every time. 


Steve

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Cdrack 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 9:45 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [newbie] CUPS
  Seems to me like you don´t have CUPS installed jet, so I 
  recomend you to install all the CUPS RPM´S befor trying to install the 
  printer.After doing that you can use the web configuration tool for 
  cups http://localhost:631Cdrack.El 
  lun, 30-08-2004 a las 21:00, Steve escribió: 
  I am trying to install 
a printer in Mandrake 10 but each time it gets to the point where it 
installs CUPS it fails and says CUPS could not be installed. I am logged in 
as ROOT. Any ideas?Thanks,Steve 



Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-30 Thread JoeHill
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 09:37:03 -0500
Hoyt Bailey disseminated the following:

  Imagine there's no Microsoft, it isn't hard to do; no DRM or
  viruses, and no closed source software too...
 I'm sure that you dont understand the extent of closed source software.

...oh, Hoyt, LIGHTEN UP.

Anyhow, I understand it enough to know it is a rapidly failing development
model, soon to be relegated to the scrapheap of history by more flexible,
innovative and secure open source solutions, which is why so many of the big
guys are making the foray into the OSS arena. They don't want to be left holding
their nuts when the bottom falls out.

But even more, as the man hisself said:

A non-free program is a predatory social system that keeps people in a state of
domination and division, and uses the spoils to dominate more. It may seem like
a profitable option to become one of the emperor's lieutenants, but ultimately
the ethical thing to do is to resist the system and put an end to it.

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Re: [newbie] Screenshots

2004-08-30 Thread JoeHill
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 13:12:26 +0800
frankieh disseminated the following:

 or in MS's case telling the truth about them

LOL!

Ya, we don't even need to make stuff up using paid consultants and rigged tests,
they just keep feeding us the ammo. 

Looks like they're in trouble in the States again, 'nother class action lawsuit.

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Re: [newbie] MDK 9.2 Update to GTK 2.4

2004-08-30 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 08:34, JoeHill wrote:
 John Drouhard's post about the GTK2 port of Claws has lead me to a more
 fundamental question.
 
 Has anyone running 9.2 successfully updated their libgtk and all associated libs
 to 2.4, and if so how?
 
 And no, I'm not installing 10.0 for the time being.

In doing so you will have to upgrade Python as well; and once done, all
mandrake bits will begin to break. Been there done that.

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Re: [newbie] MDK 9.2 Update to GTK 2.4

2004-08-30 Thread JoeHill
On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 18:59:21 -0400
Guy Rouillier disseminated the following:

  John Drouhard's post about the GTK2 port of Claws has lead me to a
  more fundamental question.
  
  Has anyone running 9.2 successfully updated their libgtk and all
  associated libs to 2.4, and if so how?
  
  And no, I'm not installing 10.0 for the time being.
 
 That wouldn't do it anyway.  10.0 is still 2.2, you need 10.1
 to get 2.4.  God knows when Mandrake will get around to that for AMD64,
 so I've been playing around with Gentoo.

So I *can't* upgrade to 2.4 on 9.2?! There must be a way...

Yo! Stephen! How about that Red Carpet thingie?

Is this one of those times when Debian users snicker with derision at us MDK
people?

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[newbie] Changed conection to internet

2004-08-30 Thread linuxnbe
Hi Everybody

I changed the Internet connection on my Mandrake 10. Linux box from a
proxy server to a router. It was working fine on the proxy server (which is
now gone) but I can't get to any websites with the new router setup. In the
network card setup I changed the gateway address to the router's ip address
(I can ping fine and that setting is okay) and tried with the Mandrake
Control Center to change the Internet Setup. But everytime I enter the DNS
servers (which I think are probably the problem) it doesn't hold on to the
settings. Everytime I go back in to check they are blank.
I read the last time I had a similar problem about a non MCC way of
inputting these settings, from a teminal window but I can't remember what
the command was.
Anybody know the command? or where the DNS info is stored?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: [newbie] MDK 9.2 Update to GTK 2.4

2004-08-30 Thread JoeHill
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 09:33:45 +1000
Stephen Kühn disseminated the following:

 In doing so you will have to upgrade Python as well; and once done, all
 mandrake bits will begin to break. Been there done that.

Damn and blast! Oh, well, it's just Claws. I'm not messin' around too much with
a perfectly working system just for a more snazzy mail client.

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Re: [newbie] Changed conection to internet

2004-08-30 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 09:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Everybody
 
 I changed the Internet connection on my Mandrake 10. Linux box from a
 proxy server to a router. It was working fine on the proxy server (which is
 now gone) but I can't get to any websites with the new router setup. In the
 network card setup I changed the gateway address to the router's ip address
 (I can ping fine and that setting is okay) and tried with the Mandrake
 Control Center to change the Internet Setup. But everytime I enter the DNS
 servers (which I think are probably the problem) it doesn't hold on to the
 settings. Everytime I go back in to check they are blank.
 I read the last time I had a similar problem about a non MCC way of
 inputting these settings, from a teminal window but I can't remember what
 the command was.
 Anybody know the command? or where the DNS info is stored?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Robert

Manually edit the /etc/resolv.conf and put in the servers you think you
should have, then do a: service network restart

...try again...

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Re: [newbie] Changed conection to internet

2004-08-30 Thread Brian Parish
On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 09:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Everybody
 
 I changed the Internet connection on my Mandrake 10. Linux box from a
 proxy server to a router. It was working fine on the proxy server (which is
 now gone) but I can't get to any websites with the new router setup. In the
 network card setup I changed the gateway address to the router's ip address
 (I can ping fine and that setting is okay) and tried with the Mandrake
 Control Center to change the Internet Setup. But everytime I enter the DNS
 servers (which I think are probably the problem) it doesn't hold on to the
 settings. Everytime I go back in to check they are blank.
 I read the last time I had a similar problem about a non MCC way of
 inputting these settings, from a teminal window but I can't remember what
 the command was.
 Anybody know the command? or where the DNS info is stored?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Robert
 
DNS servers are registered in /etc/resolv.conf

It should look like this:

nameserver  xxx.yyy.zzz.123
nameserver  xxx.yyy.zzz.124

etc...for as many nameservers as you want to define.  Two is usually
enough.

Just edit this file as root.  You will see the effect immediately on
saving the changes - no need to restart anything.

HTH
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Re: [newbie] MDK 9.2 Update to GTK 2.4

2004-08-30 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 09:42, JoeHill wrote:
 On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 09:33:45 +1000
 Stephen Kühn disseminated the following:
 
  In doing so you will have to upgrade Python as well; and once done, all
  mandrake bits will begin to break. Been there done that.
 
 Damn and blast! Oh, well, it's just Claws. I'm not messin' around too much with
 a perfectly working system just for a more snazzy mail client.

I ended up breaking mine just because I wanted Nautilus 2.6; then after
it was all done, and I saw it ONCE, I realised that ROX did the same
afterall (and was heaps more configurable) - ah well, the lessons we
learn...(seven more days to ADSL)

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Re: [newbie] A little OT - iRiver iHP-140

2004-08-30 Thread Greg Meyer
On Monday 30 August 2004 06:56 pm, Brian Parish wrote:
 Has anyone tried one of these hard drive players with Mandrake?  The ogg
 support and capacity makes it look good, but I wouldn't want to have to
 boot doze to load it!

I have been looking at one myself.  I currently own a iMP-350, but I want to 
move to the hard drive player because 1) I am sick of futzing with CDR's, and 
2) the ogg support is much better on the hard drive players.  The supported 
bitrate is much higher.

My understanding is that they are mounted like any other removeable usb hard 
drive or flash drive.  You can then copy anything over to them.

The nice thing about the iRiver's are that the amps in them are pretty well 
rated for portable devices.  The iMP-350 was rated very highly as a portable 
device by the headphone geeks over at Headroom, and I've heard that quality 
has carried through to the iHP series.  
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Re: [newbie] A little OT - iRiver iHP-140

2004-08-30 Thread Greg Meyer
On Monday 30 August 2004 07:56 pm, Greg Meyer wrote:
 On Monday 30 August 2004 06:56 pm, Brian Parish wrote:
  Has anyone tried one of these hard drive players with Mandrake?  The ogg
  support and capacity makes it look good, but I wouldn't want to have to
  boot doze to load it!

 I have been looking at one myself.  I currently own a iMP-350, but I want
 to move to the hard drive player because 1) I am sick of futzing with
 CDR's, and 2) the ogg support is much better on the hard drive players. 
 The supported bitrate is much higher.

 My understanding is that they are mounted like any other removeable usb
 hard drive or flash drive.  You can then copy anything over to them.

 The nice thing about the iRiver's are that the amps in them are pretty well
 rated for portable devices.  The iMP-350 was rated very highly as a
 portable device by the headphone geeks over at Headroom, and I've heard
 that quality has carried through to the iHP series.

Here's the link to the review.

http://www.headphone.com/layout.php?topicID=2subTopicID=28
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[newbie] KDE - KPPP

2004-08-30 Thread David
I've just recently upgraded to MDK 10 Official and have upgraded all my kde
files.

Since installing 'kdenetwork-kppp-3.2-17.1.100mdk.i586.rpm' I've experience
problems with the dialler. After installing the /etc/ppp/options were changed,
(cann't remember exactly how it went in the 3rd line but it was something like
this:

lock
noauth
n***default
[where * = a letter])

and now does not want to always connect.

If I use 'wvdial' to connect and then disconnect and try 'kppp' I can then get a
connection with it sometimes.

Has anyone else experienced problems with this upgrade and if so how did you
overcome them if you have.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] MDK_Updates]$ cat /etc/ppp/options
lock
debug
noauth
defaultroute
lcp-max-configure 45
ipcp-accept-local
ipcp-accept-remote
idle 600

[EMAIL PROTECTED] MDK_Updates]$ 
These settings were given by a linux knowledgeble helpdesk person from my isp.

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Re: [newbie] MDK 9.2 Update to GTK 2.4

2004-08-30 Thread JoeHill
On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 08:54:22 -0500
John Drouhard disseminated the following:

  And no, I'm not installing 10.0 for the time being.
  
 
 
 I don't know if this is too much work for you, but you can try compiling
 it from source, along with it's dependencies. That shouldn't break
 anything *too* bad. :-)
 
 http://www.gtk.org
 http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.4/gtk/gtk-building.html

Just for claws? Nah. Something to look forward to when I buy a new box and can
experiment a bit. Right now I only have the one old workhorse, and I ain't
riskin' breakin' nuttin' no how!

For the people who *do* want to build this wonderful GTK2 Claws, here is John's
original howto (though I think the line number you edit has changed to 65...):

1. cvs
-d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/sylpheed-claws
login 
^^^That is one line

press enter when the password prompt comes up.

2. cvs -z3
-d:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/sylpheed-claws
co -r gtk2 sylpheed-claws
^^^That is one line

3.change into the sylpheed-claws directory.

4. Open the file configure.ac and change line 63 from
AC_CONFIG_HEADERS(config.h)

to
AM_CONFIG_HEADER(config.h)

5. Then save it, and run autogen.sh.
type make, then become root and type make install.

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Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-30 Thread Hoyt Bailey
On Monday 30 August 2004 20:49, JoeHill wrote:
 On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 20:18:21 -0500

 Hoyt Bailey disseminated the following:
   A non-free program is a predatory social system that
   keeps people in a state of domination and division, and
   uses the spoils to dominate more. It may seem like a
   profitable option to become one of the emperor's
   lieutenants, but ultimately the ethical thing to do is to
   resist the system and put an end to it.
 
  You seem to have forgotten the bankers, lawyers, indian
  chiefs, accountants, small business, big business,
  factories, labs, hospitals,  etc.  If you think millions of
  business concerns are paying $1,500 per month and up for
  software use for nothing, you maybe ought to rethink.  The
  business seems to be doing well.

 Didn't say they were dead, Hoyt, said they were *dying*.

 The facts speak for themselves:

 An Evans Data survey published in November 2001 found that
 48.1% of international developers and 39.6% of North Americans
 plan to target most of their applications to GNU/Linux. In
 October 2002, they found that 59% of developers expect to
 write Linux applications in the next year. The November 2001
 edition of the Evans Data International Developer Survey
 Series reported on in-depth interviews with over 400
 developers representing over 70 countries, and found that when
 asked which OS they plan to target with most of their
 applications next year, 48.1% of international developers and
 39.6% of North Americans stated that they plan to target most
 of their applications to GNU/Linux. This is surprising since
 only a year earlier less than a third of the international
 development community was writing GNU/Linux applications. The
 survey also found that 37.8% of the international development
 community and 33.7% of North American developers have already
 written applications for GNU/Linux, and that over half of
 those surveyed have enough confidence in GNU/Linux to use it
 for mission-critical applications.

 Evans Data conducted a survey in October 2002. In this survey,
 they reported ___Linux continues to expand its user base. 59%
 of survey respondents expect to write Linux applications in
 the next year.___
 An Evans Data survey made public in February 2004 found that
 1.1 million developers in North America were working on OSS/FS
 projects. Evans Data___s North American Developer Population
 Study examined the number of software developers using various
 approaches. It found that more than 1.1 million developers in
 North America were spending at least some of their time
 working on Open Source development projects. That___s an
 extraordinarily large number of people, and it doesn___t even
 account for developers in other countries. Many only develop
 part-time, but that many people can develop a lot of software,
 and having a large number of people increases the likelihood
 of helpful insights and innovations in various OSS/FS
 projects.

 A Japanese survey found widespread use and support for
 GNU/Linux; overall use of GNU/Linux jumped from 35.5% in 2001
 to 64.3% in 2002 of Japanese corporations, and GNU/Linux was
 the most popular platform for small projects. The book Linux
 White Paper 2003 (published by Impress Corporation) surveys
 the use of GNU/Linux in Japan (it is an update to an earlier
 book, ___Linux White Paper 2001-2002___). This is written in
 Japanese; here is a brief summary of its contents.

 The survey has two parts, user and vendor. In ___Part I :
 User enterprise___, they surveyed 729 enterprises that use
 servers. In ___Part II : Vendor enterprise___, they surveyed
 276 vendor enterprises who supply server computers, including
 system integrators, software developers, IT service suppliers,
 and hardware resellers. The most interesting results are those
 that discuss the use of Linux servers in user enterprises, the
 support of Linux servers by vendors, and Linux server adoption
 in system integration projects.

 Link:

 http://www.dwheeler.com/oss_fs_why.html
I offer the gaming industry, there are now servers and other 
programs that allow games to run under linux, but you still have 
to buy the game.  I cant expect that an accounting program that 
runs on Texas Instrument OS and costs $1500 per month will do 
any different.  This is also true of UNIX and other OS's such as 
IBM can you imagine IBM loseing business to linux.
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Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-30 Thread JoeHill
On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 21:28:22 -0500
Hoyt Bailey disseminated the following:

  http://www.dwheeler.com/oss_fs_why.html
 I offer the gaming industry, there are now servers and other 
 programs that allow games to run under linux, but you still have 
 to buy the game.  I cant expect that an accounting program that 
 runs on Texas Instrument OS and costs $1500 per month will do 
 any different.  This is also true of UNIX and other OS's such as 
 IBM can you imagine IBM loseing business to linux.

It's not going to happen tomorrow. If you had actually read the info I posted,
you would understand I'm talking about a *trend* here, Hoyt. A process of
change. Just try to wrap your head around that for one second. Will proprietary
software ever be totally wiped out? Not in our lifetimes, I don't think. Is OSS
gaining, and overtaking, proprietary closed source development? Yes. Is OSS
winning out time after time when businesses are making decisions about expanding
or replacing their infrastructure? Yes again.

Oh, and when that TI box wears out, who do you think they'll be calling ;-)

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Re: [newbie] Dual Boot Dual HDD

2004-08-30 Thread Asa Rossoff
JRH wrote:
Hi all,
Bit of a good one this!
I have 2 HDD's in my machine, and I want to boot from both Drives.
My main drive (/dev/hdc) is where LiLo is installed.
On my main drive, I have: hdc1: Windows 98SE, hdc5: /root, hdc7: /usr, hdc8: 
/home.

The second drive, contains Windows ME (dont ask!!), and DiskDrake sees it as 
/dev/hda, and LiLo sees it as hda1.

In theory, all looks like it should work. But it dont!
When I boot, I select Win ME in LiLo, then I get a boot failure message 
(something along the lines of invalid boot disk, please replace and hit any 
key to retry- looks like it's BIOS initiated.)

Swop the drives over, and it will boot into ME fine, so the OS is intact etc.
Any Ideas?? or am I just hoping for too much? :-(
JRH
Windows expects to boot from the first drive in the system (which it 
will always call C:).  I believe there are ways to trick it into booting 
from other drives.  I haven't tried it.  Smart Boot Manager can do this 
by (I think) having the bios report the drives in a swapped fashion. 
SBM is at http://btmgr.sourceforge.net/

Asa

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Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-30 Thread Vincent Voois

JoeHill wrote:
But even more, as the man hisself said:
A non-free program is a predatory social system that keeps people in a state of
domination and division, and uses the spoils to dominate more. It may seem like
a profitable option to become one of the emperor's lieutenants, but ultimately
the ethical thing to do is to resist the system and put an end to it.
Microsoft's last excuse:
Aber wir habe est nicht gewusst!


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Re: [newbie] OT - Request for advice on Windows XP

2004-08-30 Thread Vincent Voois

Hoyt Bailey wrote:
any different.  This is also true of UNIX and other OS's such as 
IBM can you imagine IBM loseing business to linux.
IBM always had a good arrogant head up, this is why they had to fire over 40.000 people back 1 and a half decade ago.
They have the potential to do it again on this market.
They already loose in Asia and Africa as Microsoft really get's whooped-ass over there due to the fact people rather using Linux 
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Re: [newbie] CUPS

2004-08-30 Thread Rob Blomquist
On Monday 30 August 2004 4:15 pm, Steve wrote:
 After I intsall CUPS from the RPMs and then go to Configure your
 hardwarePrinters, it tries to load CUPS again, opens the packages to
 install it (even though I have already installed it) and then fails with
 the message CUPS cannot be installed. It does this every time.

You installed it using rpm, no? Under mandrake one needs to use urpmi, as its 
urpmi that is having the problem.

I am not sure how to correct this problem, if there is one.

Now, let the configure your hardware stuff alone, Use the Cups software to 
configure it all. Point your browser at http://localhost:631/ and fire away. 
The CUPS web interface should come right up.

If you have problems with that, and its a pretty simple interface, then you 
can click the on-line help link to get help from the cups website.

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Re: [newbie] Dual Boot Dual HDD

2004-08-30 Thread Vincent Voois

Asa Rossoff wrote:
When I boot, I select Win ME in LiLo, then I get a boot failure 
message (something along the lines of invalid boot disk, please 
replace and hit any key to retry- looks like it's BIOS initiated.)

Swop the drives over, and it will boot into ME fine, so the OS is 
intact etc.

Any Ideas?? or am I just hoping for too much? :-(
JRH

Windows expects to boot from the first drive in the system (which it 
will always call C:).  I believe there are ways to trick it into booting 
from other drives.  I haven't tried it.  Smart Boot Manager can do this 
by (I think) having the bios report the drives in a swapped fashion. SBM 
is at http://btmgr.sourceforge.net/
Right as well as wrong.
First of all, the Bios always searches the first IDE drive for the boot-sector and simple executes it and whatever bootmanager 
is on there, it will do the rest.
Unless there is an option in the Bios to change bootpriority for IDE drives, you won't be able to change this fact.

Second, Windows boots from the first boot-device, but it can be configured to have it's OS on another drive by altering the 
MSDOS.INI and in case of WinNT 4.x, 5.x you can alter the BOOT.INI to set the drive and startup-path where the os is stored.
If your bootmanager on the primary IDE drive allows you to boot from the second drive, you can install all of the Windows data 
on there but in the win9x/ME cases you for sure have to modify the system settings to make it boot properly.

IMHO:Ditch WinME, it's really not worth the trouble, either install '98SE or XP, but Win'98 is currently less vulnerable to 
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Re: [newbie] A little OT - iRiver iHP-140

2004-08-30 Thread Rob Blomquist
On Monday 30 August 2004 3:56 pm, Brian Parish wrote:
 Has anyone tried one of these hard drive players with Mandrake?  The ogg
 support and capacity makes it look good, but I wouldn't want to have to
 boot doze to load it!

One of the things about ogg players is that there aren't any car players that 
will play them. Sort of hacks me off, but I reripped my 20Gb to mp3s to 
satisfy my need last fall.

I have tried my brothers ipod FM sending unit, and it stunk in my car. Sliding 
all over the place and reception was lousy.

Mp3s in my car are my #1 need, so ogg support, while I would prefer to use 
oggs, is not that important.

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Re: [newbie] Archives

2004-08-30 Thread Alan
Thank you all for all the info.

Much appreciated.


On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 03:01, Chris wrote:
 On Monday 30 August 2004 03:14 pm, Alan wrote:
  Good day all
 
  I asked a while ago about setting up a squid proxy server to do
  authentication and somebody gave me a couple of URL's to look at and
  being an idiot I did not save them.
 
  I tried looking in the archives but the dates only go to 2003-11.. Is
  this list still archived and if so where.
 
  Alternatively you could just point me to the proxy authentication how to
  guide again.
 
  Many Thanks
 
  I promise I will save the URL this time.
 
 I use these all the time:
 
 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-newbier=1b=200312w=2
 
 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-expertr=1w=2
 



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Re: [newbie] sp2 may have done something good

2004-08-30 Thread Vincent Voois

Stephen Kühn wrote:
On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 10:57, JoeHill wrote:
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 07:28:16 -0400
Lanman disseminated the following:

just wait until Microsoft releases LongHorn! There's gonna be a 
huge groundswell of people switching to linux when that happens!
Ummm, the way things are going, that could be like, 2050... ;-)

If you haven't been reading up on it, when Wrongborn DOES come out, it's
not going to be the originally promised product (again); so once again,
Microsplat is going to stick an unfinished, incomplete product down the
throats of the public and it's licensed corporations; if I were a
corporate entity that PAID FULL PRICE for my MS Licensing 6.0, I'd be
filing suit for undelivered product.
Yeah, but it will be very fast running full with new exploits to close down and you will be spending the next two years 
downloading security patches and service packs (which will ofcourse make it very very slow again) and updating your anti-virus 
software every day in the hope some virus maker didn't beat them to it on your system.

With Windows:You'll at least gonna be very busy with IT. (but not with what you really 
want to do on it)


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Re: [newbie] sp2 may have done something good

2004-08-30 Thread Stephen Kühn
On Tue, 2004-08-31 at 15:27, Vincent Voois wrote:

 Yeah, but it will be very fast running full with new exploits to close down and you 
 will be spending the next two years 
 downloading security patches and service packs (which will ofcourse make it very 
 very slow again) and updating your anti-virus 
 software every day in the hope some virus maker didn't beat them to it on your 
 system.
 
 With Windows:You'll at least gonna be very busy with IT. (but not with what you 
 really want to do on it)

I'm thinking of changing business directions anywyas; I'm spiritually
sick and tired of Microsoft Windows (since v.1.0) and have found a nice
niche market for linux...I think I want to concentrate my efforts that
way instead. I feel better karma in dealing with linux solutions.

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Re: [newbie] sp2 may have done something good

2004-08-30 Thread Vincent Voois

Stephen Kühn wrote:
On Fri, 2004-08-27 at 20:17, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
On Fri, 2004-08-27 at 05:58, Amy wrote:
Hey everyone!

Anyhow, thanks for all the help you've given me thus far, and thanks in 
advance for putting up with me as I start off on this adventure of 
bringing my technologically inept father out of the evil embrace of 
windows. ^_^

Amy
 

Very good.  We stand ready to help!
LX

I'm sitting in front of an XP Home SP2 box right now - it's borked
beyond anything other than backing it up, and reloading it. On top of
that, the client installed Norton Internet Security - which, together
with SP2, caused this thing to go south faster than a speeding penquin.
To top it all off, it's a Packard-Bell machine.
Packard Bell AKA Packard Hell, there is not any harder pain in the ass you can 
mention than Packard Bell.
It's even harder to install Linux on it.
I never ceases to amaze me the crap that the public THINKS is a viable
desktop, a viable operating system. Once SP2 was carefully removed (for
testing purposes) the machine was snappy (even though it's a rather low
end, 128mb box). What is Microsoft doing? Do they realise that the next
What do you expect from XP when your box only has 128MB, it's the minimum, but don't expect XP to run godspeed on such a limited 
box.

year they're going to see even more converts over to non-Microsoft OS's
just because of the fact that they can't get anything straight or
anything fixed in the first place?
XP is good for a stand-alone game-box and DTP box.
For the Internet and server purposes i would recon Linux.



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Re: [newbie] A little OT - iRiver iHP-140

2004-08-30 Thread Aron Smith
On Monday 30 August 2004 10:21 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote:
 On Monday 30 August 2004 3:56 pm, Brian Parish wrote:
  Has anyone tried one of these hard drive players with Mandrake?  The ogg
  support and capacity makes it look good, but I wouldn't want to have to
  boot doze to load it!

 One of the things about ogg players is that there aren't any car players
 that will play them. Sort of hacks me off, but I reripped my 20Gb to mp3s
 to satisfy my need last fall.

 I have tried my brothers ipod FM sending unit, and it stunk in my car.
 Sliding all over the place and reception was lousy.

 Mp3s in my car are my #1 need, so ogg support, while I would prefer to use
 oggs, is not that important.
For what the IRiver costs you can buy a Blaupunkt  Phoenix ($200.00)
and you will have a AM/FM/CD/MP3  player with 200 watts I just burn a cd full 
of MP3s  and I'm good to go for 10 hours or so on 1 disk

 Rob


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