[newbie] USB ISDN TA
Hi All I am a complete newcomer to Linux and have installed Mandrake 10.1 Official (hoping to move away from windows eventually). The system is up and running reasonably well (I think!) but I am having a problem with my ISDN terminal adapter. (which works fine in Windows). Mandrake detects the adapter, but I am not able to configure it through Kppd - it reports modem ready then initialising modem but gets no further. I have spent some time googling this problem and have ended up totally confused. I am not even sure if this particular TA can be used in linux. The details of the TA are as follows: Chronos USB ISDN TA - containing the Winbond 6694 chipset. /proc/bus/usb/devices T: Bus=01 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=00 Cnt=01 Dev#= 5 Spd=12 MxCh= 0 D: Ver= 1.10 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs= 1 P: Vendor=1046 ProdID=6694 Rev= 1.00 S: Product=USB ISDN TA C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=a0 MxPwr=100mA I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 0 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=(none) I: If#= 0 Alt= 1 #EPs= 5 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=(none) E: Ad=01(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 8 Ivl=0ms E: Ad=82(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS= 8 Ivl=0ms E: Ad=83(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS= 5 Ivl=1ms E: Ad=04(O) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 23 Ivl=1ms E: Ad=85(I) Atr=01(Isoc) MxPS= 41 Ivl=1ms Mandrake identifies it (under hardware) as: Identification Vendor: Unknown Description: USB ISDN TA Media class: Connection Bus: USB Bus PCI #: 1 PCI device #: 3 Vendor ID: 4166 Device ID: 26260 Misc Module: unknown I would be really greatful if anyone could help me get this set up. Thanks Lloyd Heys Cape Town South Africa -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.6.9 - Release Date: 06/01/05 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] mdk kernel enterprise src?
mdk-9.2 I am trying to get a closed source (VPN client) kernel extension working. I would like to use kernel-enterprise-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk, but I need the source. I see there is kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.src.rpm (39303204) kernel-source-2.4.22-21mdk.i586.rpm (42200593) I wonder about the size difference :-( urpi only finds the 2nd. I tried that one, but symbols unresolved. http://rpms.mandrakeclub.com/search.php?query=kernel-2.4.22.21mdk lists the 1st, but attempting to install it, but it does not: rpm -i kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.src.rpm -vv D: == kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.src.rpm D: Expected size: 39303204 = lead(96)+sigs(264)+pad(0)+data(39302844) D: Actual size: 39303204 D: unshared posix mutexes found(38), adding DB_PRIVATE, using fcntl lock D: opening db environment /var/lib/rpm/Packages create:cdb:mpool:private D: opening db index /var/lib/rpm/Packages rdonly mode=0x0 D: locked db index /var/lib/rpm/Packages D: opening db index /var/lib/rpm/Pubkeys rdonly mode=0x0 D: read h# 342 Header sanity check: OK D: == DSA pubkey id 9aa8d0d022458a98 D: kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk.src.rpm: V3 DSA signature: OK, key ID 22458a98 D: added source package [0] D: found 1 source and 0 binary packages D: Expected size: 39303204 = lead(96)+sigs(264)+pad(0)+data(39302844) D: Actual size: 39303204 warning: user qateam does not exist - using root warning: group qateam does not exist - using root warning: user qateam does not exist - using root warning: group qateam does not exist - using root warning: user qateam does not exist - using root warning: group qateam does not exist - using root warning: user qateam does not exist - using root warning: group qateam does not exist - using root warning: user qateam does not exist - using root warning: group qateam does not exist - using root warning: user qateam does not exist - using root warning: group qateam does not exist - using root warning: user qateam does not exist - using root warning: group qateam does not exist - using root warning: user qateam does not exist - using root warning: group qateam does not exist - using root kernel-2.4.22.21mdk-1-1mdk D: == Directories not explictly included in package: D: 0 /usr/src/RPM/SOURCES/ D: 1 /usr/src/RPM/SPECS/ D: == D: fini 100644 1 ( 0, 0) 1324 /usr/src/RPM/SOURCES/README.Mandrake;3fce6c45 D: fini 100644 1 ( 0, 0) 2948 /usr/src/RPM/SOURCES/README.kernel-sources;3fce6c45 D: fini 100644 1 ( 0, 0)137112 /usr/src/RPM/SPECS/kernel-2.4.spec;3fce6c45 D: fini 100644 1 ( 0, 0) 9651394 /usr/src/RPM/SOURCES/linux-2.4.22-q21.tar.bz2;3fce6c45 D: fini 100644 1 ( 0, 0) 29528612 /usr/src/RPM/SOURCES/linux-2.4.22.tar.bz2;3fce6c45 D: fini 100644 1 ( 0, 0) 3403 /usr/src/RPM/SOURCES/linux-mdkconfig.h;3fce6c45 D: fini 100644 1 ( 0, 0) 7767 /usr/src/RPM/SOURCES/linux-merge-config.awk;3fce6c45 D: fini 100644 1 ( 0, 0) 3081 /usr/src/RPM/SOURCES/linux-merge-modules.awk;3fce6c45 GZDIO:4802 reads, 39336828 total bytes in 2.004 secs D: closed db index /var/lib/rpm/Pubkeys D: closed db index /var/lib/rpm/Packages D: closed db environment /var/lib/rpm/Packages Am I barking up the wrong tree? Cheers, Lloyd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Is this a joke?
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[newbie] auto pppd
Hi I am working to make my unix machine to dial on demand. I came across some docs that mention peer-files. It doesn't go in to details to what a peer-file is. HELP!
[newbie] networking linux to windows
Hi, I am having trouble getting my Linux and Windows machines to see each other on a LAN. I have tried pinging but all I get is " host unreachable". Any ideas to what I may have missed in configuring the LAN?
[newbie] modem sharing
Hello, Is it possible for Linux and Windows to share a modem connections? if so, how do I do it?
[newbie] linux to windows networking
Hi, All I am having trouble getting my Linux and windows machine to "see" each other on a network. I have done everything that has come to mind. Tried pinging..nothing! Any ideas would be appreciated! thanks, Curtis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Trouble ftp'ing Mandrake 6.0
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy all, I was just trying to download the latest Mandrake (6.0) from one of the FTP mirrors (500+ Meggers, but I figure I might as well put my new DSL to work). Everything's great, except my FTP programs seem to be choking on some directories. There are a whole bunch of directories in the /Mandrake/instimage/lib directory (and possibly elsewhere), that my FTP programs (both WS_FTP and CuteFTP) are failing to open, giving "Not a Directory" errors. The directories have names like ld-linux.so.2, libc.so.6, and so forth. The only thing I can think is that the multiple dots in the file names are confusing my FTP programs, but I can't really see whay that would happen. I imagine I'me just doing (or overlooking) something stupid, but what? (Besides stubbornly refusing to get the CDs, that is). Thanks a lot, Chris If you're going to d/l it, why not just install it as you download?
Re: [newbie] compiler
Bob Schmidt wrote: Hi All, I'm pretty new at this stuff, I'm trying to install kxicq on my machine. But it says that I need a compiler, well I looked through my mandrake 6 box and installed colorgcc. But when I run ./configure it says that the gcc can't create an excutable. Any ideas on what I should do? Thanks, Bob I think the file that starts the compiler is either gcc or pgcc (I think the "p" means "optimize for Pentium", but hey, I'm a newbie, too)
Re: [newbie] Oh, yeah
Andy Goth wrote: Well, I'm no programmer, but it must not be terribly difficult as I have a couple of programs that do similar things. But Partition Magic is still the best, and comes with more than just the partition creator and resizer. I have Partition Magic 4.0 which has a Windows and DOS version, and works on ex2fs. Through creative searching, I did not pay for it (shhh), but it is hard to find. There are shareware or freeware programs like Partition manager and FIPS which will also create and resize partitions, but you don't get the nice GUI and there is some knowledge that goes into it. Anything that you want or need can be found online if you are willing put the time in. FIPS, eh? Yeah, I read that it could resize partitions as well. Does anyone have any success stories? Any reports of failures? Since I'll have to reformat the disk to the BIOS format instead of the Ontrack Proprietary Format, I'm going to lose my data anyway. lightbulb First, I think I'll empty the C: (which is a compressed partition ala DoubleSpace). Then I'll move all the important DOS/Windows files onto it. Next, I'll reformat and repartition the big hard disk. I can reinstall everything I want onto it, and I can recover the important data and hard-to-find programs from the C:. After that, I can redo the old hard disk so that it has two partitions (one msdos and one ext2). This plan will reduce the need for floppy backups (except for backing up my Linux stuff--which I don't have much of yet). Still, I wait for a Windows 95 CD... well, you could try the new (beta) DiskDrake partition resizer, since you won't have anything to lose. It's on the Mandrake site.
Re: [newbie] Oh, yeah
Richard Myers wrote: On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Richard Myers wrote: Neat stuff, huh? This is Unix. best wishes, richard myers On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, darkknight wrote: : ) Ever thought about teaching? We, I taught an online college-level Intro to Unix course for several years. Gave it up because (1) the college didn't support it well enough, and (2) I make ten times as much money working for Lucent Technologies. I always had trouble grasping the diferrence between hard links and soft (symbolic) links, untill now. And I was'nt even the poster of the message. cool , thanks alot, you really have patients and should consider teaching as a career. Great stuff indeed, Unix has always facinated me but I thought it too hard for me to grasp. More lessons like that and there might be hope for me yet. I shure am glad I make it a habbit to at least skim through each and every post. Thanks alot, John Love [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hmmm. Glad it helped. Maybe we should do some quickie Unix-command-line intro lessons online. QUESTION: should it be on this list, or would it be better to start a new, separate maillist? Or should we just try a few easy lessons, and see how it goes, with the option to move elsewhere later? What say, everyone? best wishes, richard myers it sounds like a pretty good idea
Re: [newbie] Netscape Misbehaves
On Sat, 24 Jul 1999, you wrote: Netscape 4.6 sometimes unexpectedly quits when I close one navigator window. Is this a problem that is fixed in 4.61? Where can I download 4.61? In the "cooker" pre-release. there's RPMs of Netscape 4.61 (regular and Communicator. Alternatively, you can d/l it directly from http://home.netscape.com. It would probably be in tar.gz form at Netscape. If you need a secure browser (128 bit; Netscape refers to it as strong encryption), you can get that there, too. If you don't live in North America, you can still get strong encryption from http://www.fortify.net (it's in Australia, so the US gov't rules don't apply) This is from Windows experience. I see no reason for Netscape to be different in Linux. I'd know better if I could *connect* to the Internet in Linux, but... modem manufacturers seem to think that Winmodems are popular. Winmodems are popular with manufacturers because they are cheaper to make. (ah, that old profit motive again) Unfortunately, as we have seen, they don't work with anything else.I bought one for a computer that never ran anything but Windows.Unfortunately, the computer was too wimpy to handle a Winmodem. I would never buy another. My advice to you would be to buy either an external modem or an ISA REAL modem. -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Oh, yeah
On Sat, 24 Jul 1999, you wrote: Basically what Partition Magic does that fdisk doesn't, is resize existing partitions without requiring you to first destroy them (and everything on them) and recreate them. I guess that's convenient but -I- wouldn't pay $70 for it. :) So it's a nondestructive partition resizer? That doesn't sound exceedingly hard to write. I mean, shouldn't fdisk be able to do this? I understand that it's still *much* easier to reformat everything, but moving data... The snag is that it'll take direct writes. It shouldn't be too hard to grab one block of data and move it over some on disk. If they overlap, start from the other direction. Use memory, too, when the overlapping gets to be too much. What more is there? you can also use 'fips" which is another FREE partition resizer.It's probably on your Mandrake disk. But be sure to READ THE DOCS FIRST!! -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] INTERNET ACCESS
On Sat, 24 Jul 1999, you wrote: check these sites. http://www.linuxhardware.net/ http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/HOWTO/Modem-HOWTO.html http://www.kc.net/%7Egromitkc/winmodem.html - Original Message - From: Mark Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 24, 1999 12:36 AM Subject: [newbie] INTERNET ACCESS I have a Gateway Essentials 366 which has a 366MHZ AMD K6-2 processor. The current modem installed is a Lucent Technologies 56K Fax-Modem installed in a PCI slot. My research says that this is a form of "winmodem". Is this true? Are all modems that plug into a PCI slot a form of "winmodem"? If so, can you recommend some external serial modems that would enable me to get internet connectivity? Thank you for your assistance. afaik, pretty much ALL PCI modems (I think there's one exception, but I don't know what it is) are Winmodems. Either get an external modem or an ISA modem. Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] Ontrack Disk Manager
While cruising through fdisk, I noticed there are four partition types relating to Ontrack Disk Manager.It might be helpful to whoever was using it to set their partition types to one of these. -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Oh, yeah
On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, you wrote: Probably for the same reason DOS can only use 640kB RAM. I can hear it now... "Nobody will ever have a drive larger than 2GB!" Correction: Nobody will ever BE ABLE TO have a drive larger than 2GB! That is, with DOS. I like learning about the internals of my computer. I try to learn all I can about everything I use. What is Linux's answer to the FAT? as far as I know, it's EXT2, which is far superior to FAT. -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Oh, yeah
On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, you wrote: I broke my disk up in 3 partitions. 2 Gig or so for "/root", 64M for "swap", and the balance (6Gig) for "/home". This allows me to reinstall (reformat :-0 ) the /root and swap and not touch any home (user) files What about /usr and all those other directories I am forgetting? So, what if I install some great package and then have to reformat and reinstall the OS? How can I salvage that great package? just copy the package to a partition you aren't going to format. You can copy it back later. -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Installing
On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, you wrote: Mine is 1994.LBA is Logical (or Linear) Block Addressing. All new IDE HDs support it. My 1995 WD does. It's just a different way of numbering the heads, sectors and tracks. I'm pretty sure it does translation, too. Maybe there's a BIOS update for your motherboard-assuming it has a flash rom on it (but from that era, I kinda doubt it. My dad would like to get a new processor for the computer. I read some instructions on upgrades in the pamplets that came with our computer, and it showed me where I could set the clock speed. The choices: 25MHz and 33MHz. If I want to upgrade, I'll have to get a new motherboard in the process. I think it would be kinda cool to have a patchwork computer made out of parts from many different times, but if it doesn't work, then there's no point. I wonder if AST still supports an old Adventure! computer... By the way, I got it for $1500. grin shakes head Modern hardware is much nicer and faster. Much cheaper, too. When I bought my Pentium motherboard in '95, the cpu (90 Mhz) was nearly $1000 Cdn. The board was about $800. And 16 Mb of RAM was $900. -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Installing
An extended partition can contain multiple partitions (logical drives) inside it. For a more detailed explanation see http://www.harris-lp.k12.ia.us/hlp/~jws/~jws/comp/PCInfo/Boot/DEFAULT.HTM (click on the "Partitions and Volumes" link first). I was looking for a better page, but couldn't find one. Still, this one's not bad. I'll read it. The disk is formatted with the Ontrack Proprietary Format... Which means that if you ever want to access it without their special driver, you'll have to reformat it- WITHOUT USING THEIR FORMAT. I have the option of doing a BIOS format. The DDO will still work, but then I can access the drive without it and risk cylinder wrap. I read that 1024 cylinders is around 528MB or so. Hmm. That's pretty limiting. If your BIOS has the option of doing a format, DON'T DO IT!!! Apparently, this was only meant for non IDE/SCSI drives, and can actually make things worse. Even though you should never have to low-level format an IDE drive, if you really have to, you must get the utility from the drive manufacturer. Apparently, all drives have slightly different controllers, so there is no generic low-level format program. -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] kernel recompilation
On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, you wrote: Dan Brown wrote: From: Periklis Christodoulou [EMAIL PROTECTED] I wonder if I can get help with recompiling my kernel in order to support ntfs file system. When I tried "make xconf" it failed saying there are no rules to make target. It's make xconfig. Make sure you're in /usr/src/linux when you do this. I am sorry indeed it is make xconfig. And I was in the directory /usr/src/linux. To make sure I have repeated the exercise and the following again: make xconfig make: *** No rule to make target `xconfig'. Stop. One more info, I am running the Mandrake 6.0 Thanks Did you install the kernel headers AND sources? -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Mailer is possessed
On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, you wrote: Did anyone else just get 5 posts from 7-8-99? A couple of days ago, I got some from 9 days earlier... -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] lilo netscape
On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, you wrote: On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, you wrote: 1- is there a way to get Lilo to give me a choice about booting w98 or linux? I have it set to allow me to type Dos in at the boot prompt, But I would like it to wait for me to respond. Did you not set that up at install? On my system (Win98/RedHat 6.0) it works beautifully. LILO saw the two partitions and it asked what label I wanted for which operating system and which I wanted to use as my default O/S. Granted, it doesn't delay very long, but it's plenty of time for me to type "dos" and start Win98 or just hit "enter" for Linux. :-) the timeout can be changed to. I thing the default is 50 1/10 of a second. -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Oh, yeah
On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, you wrote: You could use Partition Magic (the $70 is worth it if you can't find "other" means of aquiring it). It comes with an additional program called Magic Mover which can place a complete program and all of it's folder contents in a new directory, even on another drive. And there will be no problem running it because it corrects system and .dll files to point to the new directory. I use it often and never have had a problem with it. I think it's time for a complete reinstallation of Windows 95. Isn't that the usual method of fixing problems with it? the BEST method is just to delete it permanently...:-) -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Keyboard and Xman Problem
On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, you wrote: Hello, i have bought Linux Mandrake 6.0 in germany. There are a few problems : 1. The Home and End keys doesn't work correct in KDE konsole. It only beeps when i press Home or End. When i start the Midnight Commander out of the KDE konsole and edit a file and press Home a 'H' appears, pressing End show a 'F' . 2. XMan doesn't show the man-pages. Only garbage... Bye... Andre I think the default key bindings can be changed. -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Installing
On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, you wrote: Actually, it sounds like you just need to edit your lilo.conf file. There's a section on how to do that in the Mandrake docs on the CD, which you can view with a web browser. After editing the file, you must run lilo again, i.e., /sbin/lilo When the boot prompt comes up (LILO boot:), hit the "Tab" key. This will give you a choice of OS you can boot. Type in the one you want (dos, Win95, Linux, or whatever you have) at the prompt and hit enter. I already have set up LILO on the laptop with Mandrake on it, so I know how to mess with things like the default operating system. How do I install LILO on a different disk? How do I make sure it doesn't trash the Ontrack program? PS: If you actually have Win95 installed, I'm surprised you need Ontrack Disk Manager at all. Most of the time I just boot into DOS. Windows 95 is horribly slow, and my programs are DOS based. My BIOS (AMI) is over 5 years old and I had a 7G drive in here with no additional software. Was your 3G drive formatted with LBA? It SHOULD have been if it wasn't.Does your BIOS have an LBA setting? However changing it now without reformatting your drive will probably make it unreadable. LBA? I am dealing with a 1993 computer. Mine is 1994.LBA is Logical (or Linear) Block Addressing. All new IDE HDs support it. My 1995 WD does. It's just a different way of numbering the heads, sectors and tracks. I'm pretty sure it does translation, too. Maybe there's a BIOS update for your motherboard-assuming it has a flash rom on it (but from that era, I kinda doubt it. -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Oh, yeah
On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, you wrote: I heard that I should have two Linux partitions. Can anyone give me more information on this? You need a bare minimum of two partitions for Linux. One will be your root partition and the other partition will be your swap partition. It is HIGHLY RECOMMENDED that you use a swap partition. -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Oh, yeah
On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, you wrote: Andy Goth wrote: mind. If only I could map "\Program Files" to be on a different partition... Of course, such things are trivially easy in Linux... Wonder why Microsoft chose such a half-assed method of drive management... Because they're Microsoft and want to make things as easy as possible for the computer illiterate. Just another reason we use something superior. We basically have total control over where stuff goes. I personally don't put my programs in there. -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] XFree86
On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, you wrote: I cna runxf86 under root only if i try and run it under any other user i get a an authenication error. Anyone know how to fix this? I know there's a program called mkxauth or something like that.I assume that's what it's for (MK X Authentication) At least that seems logical to me. You might want to check it out. -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Oh, yeah
On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, you wrote: Lloyd Osten wrote: On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, you wrote: Andy Goth wrote: mind. If only I could map "\Program Files" to be on a different partition... Of course, such things are trivially easy in Linux... Wonder why Microsoft chose such a half-assed method of drive management... Because they're Microsoft and want to make things as easy as possible for the computer illiterate. Just another reason we use something superior. We basically have total control over where stuff goes. I personally don't put my programs in there. -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yeah but that's also why the average person will keep buying microsoft,a lot of people I've run into consider a windows installation as being a challenging experience.and as long as windows is easier to set up,and run,people will continue to put money in bill's pocket. merc. I didn't have any problem at all installing Mandrake. I thought it was at least as easy as Windows. Getting it to boot was a whole different story. With some help from thislist, I eventually narrowed it down to quirky hardware. A small change with vi and it's been good since, except for one Kmail thing. - Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [newbie] Extracting GZ File
On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, you wrote: i go gunzip file.gz then if it ends in tar, i use tar -xvf file.tar -Original Message- From: -=Memphis=- [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 23, 1999 7:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Extracting GZ File How do I extract or decompress a gz file? For example if the filename is file.gz, what the command line should be looked like? thanx Actually, you can uzip and untar the file all at once. I think the command is tar zxvf filename Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Mandrake... (fwd)
On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, you wrote: Can anyone answer this question for me? Can you run Mandrake on a Mac? If not can you run ANY version of Linux on a Mac? -Bill -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 20:36:27 -0500 From: Arthur Katz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mandrake... I'm a Mac nut, and I've heard that linux can be installed on a Mac. True? I attended the Mac expo in New York today, but the nerds running the booth wouldn't talk to me. They were so deep in conversation with other nerds, having a war about which Linux was best. yes, there are some versions that run on a Mac, like LinuxPPc, Mklinux, and Yellow Dog Linux -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] old mail
Today I received two messages from this list dated July 12 (today is the 21st) Strange.anyone else have that happen? Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Run X, not using user root
On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, you wrote: Is there a way i can run X (startx) even i'm not using the root account. Bobby -- try using startx. It worked for me. Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Uneducated questions
On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, you wrote: These are from what I've heard from a friend.. Are they true.. 1) Can linux-mandrake be installed on a machine running win95/98/NT 2) Does it like fat32? 3) How simple is it to install.. if you've got any handing beginner info lying around suitable for cut and paste could you pass it on to me? Cheers! Answer to question 1---yes, it can, but it needs to be on a separate partition. 2. It's supposed to work with fat32, although it may be called vfat. 3. Because of my quirky hardware, I had problems with it, but usually it it very easy to install. The only thing you might have trouble with is the disk partitioning. Please read the install guide BEFORE you try to install it. You could end up saving yourself a lot of frustration. Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] networking
On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, you wrote: On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Lloyd Osten wrote: I have two computers, one running LM6.0 (this one) and the other one is running Win98. They are both connected to a cablemodem via a 10BaseT hub. They both have their own separate static IP addresses. How can I make my Linux box talk to my Win98 box (I'd like to mount the filesystem) and conversely, how do I get the Win 98 box to talk to my Linux box. man smbmount man smbd man nmbd man smb.conf LLaP bero Thank you: I'll check them out. Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] networking
On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, you wrote: Lloyd Osten wrote: I have two computers, one running LM6.0 (this one) and the other one is running Win98. They are both connected to a cablemodem via a 10BaseT hub. They both have their own separate static IP addresses. How can I make my Linux box talk to my Win98 box (I'd like to mount the filesystem) and conversely, how do I get the Win 98 box to talk to my Linux box. I'm a total networking newbie, so you will have to be simple, clear and very specific...:-) (good luck with THAT combination..:-)) If the cable modem acts like a hub, you should be able to ping each machine from the other one right now, assuming both machines are on the same subnet, which is most likely. No communications is possible until you can ping. Check it out. 1. Find out the IP of the Win98 machine. Assume it is 199.45.32.173 2. Find out the IP of the Linux machine. Assume it is 199.45.32.174 3. Then at the Linux box, type this command (you do not have to be root): prompt$ ping 199.45.32.173 You should see some results. Use control-C to stop it. 4. At the Windows 98 box, open a DOS window. start | programs | msdos prompt. At the prompt, type the corresponding command to ping the Linux box: C:\WINDOWS ping 199.45.32.174 This will give you 4 pings and then it stops, so you do not need to control-C it. Let us know the results. Also advise if you are unable to find out the IP address of the Windows98 box. Finding out my IP addresses is very simple --they are written down! :-) Actually, I have memorized both of them. The important thing is that both machines can ping each other (I tried it;it works) There's about a 1ms delay. So where do I go from here? Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] command prompt
On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, you wrote: Hello. By default when I start Mandrake 6.0 it goes straight to the cute little logon manager. Is there a way to change this so that it will go straight to a command prompt? you are SUPPOSED tolog in so it knows who you are..it's a security thing required because it's a multiuser OS.
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On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, you wrote: I suppose I was unclear regarding my posting earlier. I am the only person I know who has ventured into linux and therefor have no way to compare graphics adapters / monitors. I have the STB Lightspeed 128 adapter installed and it gives what I would consider reasonable performance for the time being (consid ering that I only have the Mandrake KDE environment and no apps. to compare it with.) I am wondering if anybody has something they would definitely recommend as a "higher end" graphics adapter (please, keep it under $200.) Regards, Joseph Gardner Senior Designer / Technical Support Kirby Company Cleveland, OH I'm using an old Matrox Millennium 2Mb that works pretty well. BTW, I am using KDE.
Re: [newbie] Modem speed Kmail
On Thu, 08 Jul 1999, you wrote: On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Matt Milano wrote: Also, when I try to send mail from Kmail, I get a 550 error message, saying that my user, name and e-mail address, doesn't exist. It just worked last night too. I can receive mail with it, just not send. Does anyone have any ideas? I had EXACTLY the same problem. It worked as root, but not as a regular user. In the end, I mucked about and removed a bunch of stuff, including some things I probably shouldn't have, which messed everything up REALLY good. In the end, I ended up re-installing EVERYTHING. That fixed it, but it's pretty drastic. My network admin (who is also a member of our local Linux user group) said problems with Kmail are rare. Perhaps you could try re-installing Kmail. It sounds like some sort of authentication problem. Hope I helped.
Re: [newbie] now what- super newbie question....
On Thu, 15 Jul 1999, you wrote: John Aldrich wrote: On Thu, 15 Jul 1999, you wrote: Ken Wilson wrote: for Xwindows type 'startx ' Excuse me but... (showing glaringly my newbie status :-)) What's the ampersand for? I normally just type "startx" and hey presto! It starts. The "" means run it in "background mode." Why you'd do that with X, I don't know (mine always works fine the standard way... if I need to do something else, I just hit CTRL+ALT+F1. Typically I log in as "root" on VC1 and log in as my "user account" on VC2, running X from VC2. Then, if I HAVE to do something in console mode, it's easy enough to change around w/o having to log in again, plus if it's something that requires "root" priveleges, I am already logged in as "root." :-) one quick question for you, While trying to configure a few things I've managed to lock up the terminal I'm using,x most often it seems, now how do you go about killing something from a different login/term? I've read (skimmed) through the man kill,and the ps(? running processes, still not all in memory yet) pages,and it wasn't all that clear,plus I'm primarily trying to get the system running right first,then learning the nuances afterwards,my philosophy being that if I know how to get it up and running right,it won't be so terrible if I screw it up. well, logi in on another console as root. Enter "ps ax" (no quotes) at the prompt, which should give a list of the running processes. Each one is identified by a PID number (Process IDentification). So type kill PID, substuting the actual pid number for PID. There are at least two stages of kill, with kill -9 PID being the most severe.Use it with caution, though; I've heard it can possibly corrupt your filesystem.
Re: [newbie] DHCP and RoadRunner
On Mon, 12 Jul 1999, Matthew A Stegman wrote: Thanks for the replies so far. I'd usually wait at least 24 hours before saying anything else, but all (both) of the replies so far have been taking the same direction: static IP. My problem is that our ISP uses DHCP- and gets very angry if you try to "permenantly borrow" an IP address. I wish I'd had the foresight to write down the exact error message from the eth0 module. I doubt it would help much, though- it just says that it failed to get the IP address for the card. Ah, well. Once again, thanks to Lloyd and Art; I appreciate your taking the time to answer. However, I can't use static IP (well, maybe, but they'd probably kick me off if I did). well,our phone company also offers an ADSL connection(first one in North America--we've had it for years) that offers dynamic IP.They say I can have a static IP (for twice the priceno thanks. Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Run X, not using user root
On Wed, 14 Jul 1999, you wrote: Is there a way i can run X (startx) even i'm not using the root account. Bobby just type in startx. Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] shut down properly
On Wed, 14 Jul 1999, you wrote: how do i shut down properly when i see Tux right when i boot? thanks j login as root, type your password and then type shutdown -h now. If you want to reboot, the change the -h to -r. Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] DHCP and RoadRunner
On Mon, 12 Jul 1999, Art Rowe wrote: I dual boot with Win98 and Linux. I have installed Caldera 1.3, Redhat 5.1 and 6, and Mandrake 6 without any trouble getting my cable modem to work with Linux. I just filled in the data I got in the cable printout given me when I started off. I think I just took the first choice in one of the menues, something like static IP? static DNS rather than the third option which was DHCP (which Rogers wave uses, I think). I have a cable modem which is basically the Rogers wave type, I think. At least my instructions say wave in big letters. Anyway, I set it up as a static IP and DNS. I've had no problems with getting mail with either Kmail or Netscape. However , I'm now leaning towards Kmail because it seems much faster on this woefully underpowered Linux box...:=) Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] boot disks?
John Aldrich wrote: Sure... its' called "rescue.img." :-) Download it from your favorite FTP site (i.e. one of the RedHat or other distro mirror sites) or get it off your CD if you have one and load it onto a disk with rawrite and use it in conjunction with the disk made from the "boot.img" file you can also download or get off your CD. Then, boot from the boot CD and type "rescue" at the prompt. :-) John I knew about rescue disks, but they don't seem to work right with LM6. There is a different type of file in the LM6/rescue directory.
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I seem to be having trouble posting to this list. As a result, I never get to see the messages *I* post (or the answers I might get) although I can easily reply to messages. Please e-mail me directly (address shown below) if you get this. Thanks very much! -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Thanks to everyone who replied. I guess my mailer IS working -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Venus 6.0
root wrote: I have a Cyrix P200 chipped on an ATC-1020+ 430VX motherboard PC with 48M ram. I have recently bought Venus 6.0 and it will not install at all. At some stage before the end of the installation it 'bombs out' with a hex dump to the screen , partially obscured by the installation menu. Festen installed and ran perfectly. I tried upgrading Festen with Venus 6.0 but the same thing happened. Can anyone help please. Regards Bob I am having somewhat of the same problem. L-M 5.3 installed perfectly with no problems. I'm lucky if I can get Venus to boot, and I've installed it at least 5 times. -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] New Version of Mandrake Questions
I think the new lernel in Mandrake 6 will be 2.2.7 at least.
Re: [newbie] rh 6.0
"Michael R. Batchelor" wrote: At 01:19 PM 4/29/99 +0100, Nick Kay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was released on Mon26 April, but I heard a rumour that an error has been found necessitating a repress of the cds. However it is appearing on the highest ftp mirrors. (I got mine down yesterday) Nick, what mirror did you use? MB -- Michael R. Batchelor Industrial Informatics Instrumentation, Inc. I saw RH6.0 on the RedHat website. (ftp.redhat.com) Good luck, as their server is extremely busy. -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] How to install my 56k modem
Ripcrd6 wrote: Does this mean that Diamond MM modems won't work? I have a 28.8 and a 56K. Both have software drivers (.inf files) that are loaded, but I think both have processors on them.I think I will just need to reset the jumpers on the modem to disable PnP and set the IRQ manually.Am I wrong here anyone? I'm reading everything before I install. I may just do it this weekend though. grin Rip6 Boon Kee Soh wrote: I have a Blaster Modem 28.8 and Merz 56K. Are they real modems? I am having problems dialing up to my ISP with all the "right" setting. If it's what is generically referred to as a "winmodem", then I'm afraid you are out of luck. Linux only supports "real" modems that don't require additional software drivers. -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've never heard of Merz, so I can't tell you anything about it. If you modem(s) came with software drivers that you must load (Win 98 usually does this automatically for you) before it works, then you have "winmodems" and they're unsupported under Linux. -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED] True (what I like to refer to as "real") modems are totally self contained and don't require any special software to operate. That's why they work with any OS;they don't need specific OS code. Winmodems are just a way for manufacturers to cut the price, by eliminating some of the hardware (and its related processing) So your main CPU does some of the work that a "real" modem can do by itself. -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] rh 6.0
Ripcrd6 wrote: I read that RedHat 6.0 allows the user on setup to choose between Gnome and KDE. I would choose KDE because it is supposed to be more stable. But I've been known to load xtra options and try them out for myself in spare time.The great thing about Linux is CHOICE. Drink it in!!! Rip6 William Schweder wrote: since rh 6.0 has kde what bonus will mandrake 6.0 have over it? and when will it be avalible You know, I was wondering the same thing..RH 6.0 also includes Gnome as a standard desktop should you choose to use it. -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think in the new RH6.0 you can specify either Gnome or KDE as your default. I saw an annoucement on the RH web site that they have new, updated RPMs for Gnome that have hundreds of bug fixes. -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Which modem to buy?
Britt Selvitelle wrote: I plan on installing linux here in a few days, and with installing I plan on buying a new modem. I was wondering which is the fastest/best? Anybody have any good experiences with some modems? I am currently using Earthlink as my ISP. Thanks... -soco I don't think you could go wrong by buying a 3Com modem (formerly US Robotics) I have a really old one (28.8) that needed (and got) firmware upgrades, and it has worked perfectly ever since. It's now collecting dust as I access the Net with a cable modem. -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Newbie Sites
Duke16 wrote: What are some good web sites for newbies to Linux? Paul Houlbrooke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Every new beginning comes from some other beginnings end. --SemiSonic (MSM Recording) there's a new one called www.linuxnewbie.com (org?) It's very new, so there might not be too much info on it yet. -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Can I run the win98 application under X-window?
Jeanette Russo wrote: I wouldn't count on the Wine on the Mandrake CD. I have found next to nothing that runs on it. I can get Free Agent to run but it will not find its way out to get any news. Jeanette Well, I know there is an updated version of WINE on the RH6.0 CD. You can also get the latest version at www.winehq.com (org?) -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Linux Install Question
"Owens, Jerry" wrote: I downloaded a copy of Linux-Mandrake 5.3 to my primary hard drive which is dos formatted and running win95. I am installing Linux on a second hard drive. I am using a floppy boot disk to install Linux. How can I get the install program to use the files from the dos disk for the install? Thanks Jerry You will also need to make a supplemental diskette, if you don't already have one. -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Installing Fonts
Sebastian Vaisov wrote: Hello, newbie I need to install cyrillic fonts to linux. I'm using Mandrake 5.3 with KDE. I need cyrillic fonts in netscape. How could I install the fonts? Anybody could talk here russian? I believe there is a HOWTO on cyrillic fonts included on the Mandrake CD. Also, you will want to install the cyrillic font package. -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Adaptec SCSI card
sledge151 wrote: Here's my problem, maybe someone can help. I installed Red Hat 5.2 on a dual boot system and entered the parameters manually (aha1520=0x340,11,7). The OS saw the card and installed fine from there. (I should say that I installed from a Scsi cd-rom) I want to change to Mandrake 5.3 for the KDE desktop. When I try to install the OS won't see my Scsi card even with the parameters entered in. Nothing has changed with the card. Anyone have any ideas? Dennis Shemwell Well, the new RedHat v6.0 with KDE is supposed to be released on Monday. Why not just download the new updates? Or just download KDE 1.1. -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Booting from innstall disk.
Jarl Gaute Vartdal wrote: I've made a bootdisk, just the way You deskribe in doc. (on your cdrom). I have Red Hat already innstalled on my pc, and I've put the LILO boot in MBR. Now when I try to boot from Your innstall disk the pc just read from the disk for about 2 sek. and continues to load the Read Hat distribution from the harddisk. And Yes, I've cheked my BIOS settings. What do I do to make it boot from the Mandrake innstall disk, so I can take advantage of your both stable and cool desktop? Thanks! Greetings from Jarl Gaute, Norway. Sorry bout my bad english. The boot image for Mandrake is different from RH5.2. I've tried both of them. So you make the bootdisk exactly the same way you made the RH5.2 disk. I think there is also a command called mkbootdsk. The true bootdisk is not the same as the installation bootdisk. -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] RealPlayer 5.0 setup
gerry wrote: I've got Mandrake 5.3 running pretty smoothly on a K2-166MHz with 64mb RAM, 6.4gb hdd, and a Matrox Mystique PCI card. kppp is working as is most of Netscape But RVPlayer 5.0 is not working quite the way I'd hoped. I followed directions in a "How to Use Linux Book," by Bill Ball, and although I think the book does a good job in a lot of places, the rvplayer install didn't work for me. I check the directions a couple of times and I still get error msgs on the order of "a plugin for the mime type audio/x-wav was not found" when I visit "www.hampsterdance.com" or a quick "false-load" of a recording when I click on http://www.npr.org/ramfiles/atc/19990416.atc.04.ram which is located on http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/archives/1999/current.html -=-= Sound is setup pretty well on KDE. I can get sound effects when I move from desktop to desktop, or if I close a window, The Kmedia program worked pretty well, also. Is there a way to set that up. I got Plugger 3.0 (after seeing it mentioned in a DejaNews msg), but was only able to set it up for root, not a regular user. It will take care of the *.wav files and plays them, but I'd rather not go around as "root" to hear "wav" files. I'd very much like to be able to grab/play npr radio programs and other rvplayer .ram, .rm,... files. Help would be appreciated. Thanks gerry, York, PA I saw a while back on this list that someone had gotten RP5.0 to work after much experimenting. I'm not sure who it was, but I thought it was either Jeanette or Denise. -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Use of Mandrake as a server platform
Bruce Endries wrote: Greetings all; I have been playing with Mandrake at home for a while now, and am considering introducing it at work for use as a fileserver platform for a small (30 or so machines) fileserver using Samba. The one thing that I am concerned about is doing backups. I currently back up about 4GB of data to tape every night, and I'd like to know if anyone out there has a suggestion as to what kind of program to use to do this task. I occasionally need to restore a file or group of files. Is TAR up to a task like this? Is there another program I should be looking at? Thanks in advance. Bruce Endries Bruce Endries Bruce Endries Consulting (607) 433-2677 there's a program called "taper" that comes with Mandrake (at least I think it does;it's definitely on the RH5.2 CD). As you might guess, it's a tape backup program. I think there's aother program called BRU2000. but I think it's a commercial program. It does come in some Liux distributions, though. -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] boot partition too big?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how do you change from LBA to NORMAL? i see it in bios but dont know how to change it. i dont want to cause any undue harm to my system. my wife would get upset if she cant party on the chat rooms after work:D If you have an Award BIOS, you just need to toggle over to that field and use the Page Up/Page Down keys. However, you need to be aware that making that change will probably make your drive unreadable. The data isn't lost; you just have to change it back to what the setting originally was. -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] The same old Lilo story (sorry :-(
Martin Cleaver wrote: Lilo is the bane of my life : I have just installed Mandrake 5.3 on my Desktoip machine... with SCSI and IDE. But whatever configuration I use, I can't get further than LLI, apart from on the boot floppy :-( There are of course several vriables: BIOS SCSI LILO... I have two SCSI drives (2 GB each) with Windows and fat32 partitioning (C and D) and a 10GB IDE drive with 3 native Linux partitions (2 GB each) and a swap and a 2 GB fat32 in the extended partition. /dev/hda1 is the boot partition for Linux and /dev/sda1 is boot for Windows. I have tried putting the lilo boot onto /dev/hda, /dev/hda1, /dev/sda and /dev/sda1, but never get further than LI. For some reasion, Lilo also tells me that /sda is not the first disk. In the BIOS, I can choose between SCSI or IDE scanning first and it's possible that the Adaptec setup would let me change a parameter to influience things (?) I have read numerous texts on the net about this, but still can't get to the bottom of it... Who can help??? Rgds Martin check this out. http://www.redhat.com/support/docs/rhl/RedHat-FAQ/RedHat-FAQ-6.html#ss6.22 -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] Communicator 4.51
This isn't specifically related to Mandrake, but I noticed at Netscape's web site that there are two versions of Communicator for Linux. One is supported and one isn't. Does anyone know what the difference is? -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Installing programs
Linda Mike wrote: Hi, Just wondering if all program files have to be untarred in root or can they be untarred in the user account if that is the only account that will use the program, such as Star Office, I will be the only one using the program. Linda I'm not sure. I'm in the same situation. It's possible that only the root operatoris allowed to run the tar program. Create an account for yourself (non root) if you have't already done so, and try it out. -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] I want to use Linux...Can someone help?
Russ Westbrook wrote: Guillermo, You said you use Linux for several different things, one of which was icq. Are you referring to the program that allows people to know when another gets on line then chat together? I use this program allot in 98 and am really going to miss it when I make the final jump. I wrote to Miribalis (spelling) and they informed me that no Linux version is planned. If this is the program you are using, may I ask how you are using it under Linux? Thanks Russ It could possibly work with WINE. Or you could get VMware (http://www.vmware.com) and run ICQ under Windows and have Linux running on your computer simultaneously! -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] I want to use Linux...Can someone help?
Jeanette Russo wrote: There seems to be two RPMS for KICQ one is for KDE 1.1 and one for KDE 1.0 which does Mandrake 5.3 use? Also there is some kind of Library RPM that comes with it do we install that also? Thanks Jeanette I believe Mandrake ships with KDE 1.1. -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] .ISO image
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i am trying to download the 5.3 image and im using gozilla does anyone know how i can make sure it download's in binary and not asci? As far as I know, files (usually) download in the correct format. You could always just use command line ftp where you can specify binary or ascii. -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] I want to use Linux...Can someone help?
Jose Alberto Abreu wrote: Hello: My name is Alberto, and i want my computer to work properly. This doesnt seem to be an unreasonable desire... Given the fact that computers have evolved so much in the last couple of decades, it would sound logical that the average joe or jane should be able to use a home desktop computer to help with usual busines s and home tasks such as wordprocessing, or maybe some semi-profesional image-processing (retouching photos and the like). Is the desire to be able to perform such simple tasks like consulting e-mail, or playing a simple mp3 file without my software freezing and my operating system crashing? Yes, you have guessed it. I, like millions of people all over the world, use the operating system created in Redmond. I believed, like many, many people out there, that this erratic and frustrating computer behavior was in some way "normal"... Until I heard about Linux. I am a journalist, so I did some research. And, the more I learned about this wonderful proyect, the more I wanted to try it. But something stopped me (this was around a year ago): "If your VCR blinks '12:00', you should not use Linux" Well, my VCR blinks "12:00"... And so does my microwave... There have been times when even my alarm clock blinks "12:00"... Mhmm... The "you should know at least how to handle several Unix commands" and the "Linux is just for geeks, nobody serious makes software for it" part also did much to discourage me. And finally a more technologically saavy friend of mine just shot it point blan k: "You are planning on going to Linux? Good luck!" So I decided to delay this very important decision. I believed (and I still do) that Linux would eventually evolve out of the "just for engineers" niche and into a more mainstream (easier to use and get software for) status. I thought I would wait for a couple of years for this, but two days ago ran into the Mandrake homepage. I became excited again... ^_^ But, before I become discouraged again, I ask you who are so much more able with technology, Is it finally time to switch? I must say that I have no intention of becoming a systems administrator, nor to learn more Unix than I know Ms-DOS (which is like 15-20 commands). I just want my computer to work without having to worry about some piece of badly written, undocumented piece of junk software crashing it everytime I try to start a simple wordprocessor. Your thoughts on this will be greatly appreciated... Jose Alberto Abreu (sorry about all of that yakking... but hey, Im a writer) --- "Free your mind... and your ass will follow" Bono, U2 Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://personal.lycos.com I'm very new to Linux also. What you're asking for is what everyone wants. Fortunately, Linux can do all that and much more for you. However, it is MUCH different from Redmond products. It can have a steep learning curve. I suggest you go to your local library and see if you can find a book describing basic Unix concepts. You will find this very helpful. Also go to http://www.mcp.com and search for e-books. I think they have some Linux books you can read online. There's also some basic stuff on your CD-ROM (although you have to look for it;I'm not sure where it is) I bought the Macmillan edition of RedHat 5.2 (Mandrake is pretty much the same but with KDE added) because it includes a CDROM with 3 useful electronic books which you can view with Adobe Acrobat Reader for Linux (also included on the CD) or other programs. Good luck using Linux! Have fun with it;don't be afraid to experiment;that's how you learn. -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Web Browser
Robert Sheskin wrote: Is there a web browser that works with KDE. I have Nutscrape which crashes more than it runs. I tried to download Star Office and after 40Mb+ of the download was complete bang Nutscrape disappears. Not even IE5 in MS Windows is that buggy. It is bad to have such a stable os with no web support. -- Robert Sheskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 5788323 You might want to try something like Amaya. I don't know much about it, but it should support all the new standards (possibly not eveything, though) It was written by the World Wide Web consortium, so it SHOULD be up to standard :-) Check their site at http://www.w3c.org -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Re: [[newbie] RH Star Office and Mandrake]]
"Jonge, RCH de" wrote: Where can I download Star Office for Windows AND Linux ?? From: Michael Scottaline [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: maandag 5 april 1999 17:48 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: [Re: [[newbie] RH Star Office and Mandrake]] "Jeanette Russo" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How big is SO 5.0 and does it come in RPM form? Jeanette I believe the download file is about 70mb. Installed, however, it takes up about 110 mb of disk space. I'm not sure about an RPM version... Mike Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. All versions of StarOffice can be downloaded from http://www.stardivision.com -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Starting and stopping services.
Gene Tsygan wrote: Hi, everybody! According to materials I read, one of the great things about Linux is that it does not need to be rebooted in order to apply configuration changes. Stopping and restarting the affected services is adequate. Can you tell me how to do it? What should I type to stop and restart services like httpd, smbd, etc. One thing I tried which works sometimes is to log in again as root. Run the command ps ax. This gives a list of all running processes, each of which has a PID number (Process Id) When you decide what you want to stop, type kill pid number. Type the actual number with no quotes, like kill 247. Hope this helps. Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Re: [[newbie] RH Star Office and Mandrake]]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Apr 06, 1999 at 02:04:01PM +0200, Jonge, RCH de wrote: Where can I download Star Office for Windows AND Linux ?? I'm pretty sure that you could find the answer faster using one of the web's various search engines than waiting for an answer on this mailing list. Try it. How big is SO 5.0 and does it come in RPM form? Jeanette I believe the download file is about 70mb. Installed, however, it takes up about 110 mb of disk space. I'm not sure about an RPM version... -- Steve Philp [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can download all versions of StarOffice from http://www.stardivision.com -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Web Browser
Steve Philp wrote: Lloyd wrote: Robert Sheskin wrote: Is there a web browser that works with KDE. I have Nutscrape which crashes more than it runs. I tried to download Star Office and after 40Mb+ of the download was complete bang Nutscrape disappears. Not even IE5 in MS Windows is that buggy. It is bad to have such a stable os with no web support. You might want to try something like Amaya. I don't know much about it, but it should support all the new standards (possibly not eveything, though) It was written by the World Wide Web consortium, so it SHOULD be up to standard :-) Check their site at http://www.w3c.org He might want to try using an FTP client instead of a web browser to do file downloads. The tools are for two different tasks. Although my father (an electrician) always said that "you can fix anything with Linesman's pliers", I do think he understood that a Phillips head screwdriver was sometimes in order. Well, half the battle is having the right tool for the job...:-) Give NcFTP a try, it supports restarting a transfer so that you don't end up wasting 2 hours on a botched download. Well, I've rarely had problems using Netscape to transfer files, but I have had it happen. I think Mandrake comes with NcFTP (not sure, though) -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Starting and stopping services.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Apr 07, 1999 at 01:15:45PM -0400, Gene Tsygan wrote: Thanks for the help. Since this is a "newbie" list I will allow myself another stupid question. Why should I use " ./ " before the file name? (Also thanks to Nick Kay for the answering my question) Gene You need to use the './' in front of the names of the files because /etc/rc.d/init.d is not part of your PATH. (echo $PATH to see what it IS set to). You'll find the dot-slash comes in handy. The other time you'll want to use it is if you want to execute a file in the directory you're currently in rather than a file of the same name that is in the PATH. For example, say you're installing a new version of Netscape and you want to make sure it works before deleting the old one. You simply 'cd' to the new directory, do ./netscape, and it'll run that copy. If you just typed 'netscape', it would probably run the old copy in /usr/bin or /usr/X11R6/bin. Hope that explanation helps! It does! I've been wondering about that myself. What does rc.d and init.d mean -- Lloyd Osten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
