Re: [newbie] 9.2 Beta 2
Somebody scribbled about Re: [newbie] 9.2 Beta 2 How, specifically, are you adjusting your time zones? OK. From kde panel right click on the clock. (S)how timezone has america/los angeles checked. But it's not America/Los angeles that it is displaying. Adjust Date time brings up a dialog box that tells me I'm in ndt, wtf that? it's 3:20 (i can't tell if that is supposed to be am or pm) from kde, and it's 10:50 am currently here (pdt). I now attempt to change it back to america/los angeles.. No change -- but switch to Local timezone from the clock menu, and guess what? I'm in HKT now! It will briefly show the correct time, and then switch (within a second or two) to the incorrect timezone. If I bring up kde again, it will be correct for a while -- longest i've had it be correct is maybe 1 day -- then inexplicably it will switch. -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 Beta 2
Somebody scribbled about Re: [newbie] 9.2 Beta 2 A few times after KDE cooker updates I've had to reset the clock. R-click on it, adjust time an date, make sure format is set to USA-english. This is still going with cooker current as of last night -- rc1 + dozens of updates. But apply seems to be the kick here that's necessary -- after changing the clock to show the correct time instead of HKT -- but apply does something funny -- it blanks the screen for several seconds, then the screen kicks back in. Is that supposed to happen? Now my clock is OK, but who knows for how long. I still cannot figure out what causes it to switch all by itself. AFAIK it's not updating from cooker specifically that will do it. -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 Beta 2
On Monday 08 September 2003 09:57 pm, dfox wrote: Somebody scribbled about Re: [newbie] 9.2 Beta 2 A few times after KDE cooker updates I've had to reset the clock. R-click on it, adjust time an date, make sure format is set to USA-english. This is still going with cooker current as of last night -- rc1 + dozens of updates. But apply seems to be the kick here that's necessary -- after changing the clock to show the correct time instead of HKT -- but apply does something funny -- it blanks the screen for several seconds, then the screen kicks back in. Is that supposed to happen? Now my clock is OK, but who knows for how long. I still cannot figure out what causes it to switch all by itself. AFAIK it's not updating from cooker specifically that will do it. When you installed did you get the clock settings dialog with a box that said world clock.nst or somesuch? If you did and did not change it to a time server in your time zone then each time it updates to the wrong time server it changes the comp time to match and you are out of whack again. HTH -- Dennis M. linux user #180842 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 Beta 2
On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 13:02, Lanman wrote: HaywireMac; No knickers to worry about! You might be right about the hijack, under the conditions you specified. I didn't see a hijack happening, because my thread was under a different name. Just so you know, I've never even seen any list of rules, didn't even know they existed until now. When I signed onto the list (dinaosaurs were just fading out of existence back then, LOL!), there weren't any rules mentioned there. Usually, I use the reply function in my email client to respond or to post to the list. Since the function is there, I just make use of it. But if I'm changing the contents of the subject-line, I interpret that as a new thread. Maybe that's where I'm going wrong? yep Or maybe the server just handles it that way. Or (yep) BOTH... (go figure) Perhaps if someone created a HowTo and made it a bit more obvious than a list of rules that some don't even know about? However, if I misspoke, I also apologize. You just caught me by surprise on that one! Have you got a link to these rules? Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 8/24/2003 at 1:56 PM HaywireMac wrote: On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 12:57:18 -0400 Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Excuse me? I thought this was a thread about Mandrake 9.2 Beta2? What did I hijack? Please define a hijack for me, so I can avoid it. Besides, isn't this a List about Mandrake Linux? It has been since I joined 4 years ago ! Please explain how I could've hijacked a thread when I believe I was the one who posted this in the first place! Well, from the way the thread looks here (*possibly* due to threading issues with the list, so if that is the case, I most humbly apologize), your 9.2 beta post was in reply to Stephen Kuhn, who was replying to the thread started by Claire Suttle about her problem with getting good 9.1 ISOs. In that sense it *appears* you hijacked Claire's thread, possibly reducing the likelyihood that she would get more responses. I checked the list archive and it shows the same way, so it is *defintitely* not a problem on my end. Anyway, don't get your knickers in a knot. Oh, and BTW, the list rules specifically ask you to limit your line wrap to 68-72 characters, IIRC. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: nodex.sytes.net ++ It is so stupid of modern civilisation to have given up believing in the devil when he is the only explanation of it. -- Ronald Knox, Let Dons Delight Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 Beta 2
Wow! Ed! You're obviously a man of few words! That was really deep! Thanks for the info! ?? LOL! Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 8/25/2003 at 9:25 PM ed tharp wrote: Maybe that's where I'm going wrong? yep Or maybe the server just handles it that way. Or (yep) BOTH... (go figure) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 Beta 2
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 12:57:18 -0400 Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Excuse me? I thought this was a thread about Mandrake 9.2 Beta2? What did I hijack? Please define a hijack for me, so I can avoid it. Besides, isn't this a List about Mandrake Linux? It has been since I joined 4 years ago ! Please explain how I could've hijacked a thread when I believe I was the one who posted this in the first place! Well, from the way the thread looks here (*possibly* due to threading issues with the list, so if that is the case, I most humbly apologize), your 9.2 beta post was in reply to Stephen Kuhn, who was replying to the thread started by Claire Suttle about her problem with getting good 9.1 ISOs. In that sense it *appears* you hijacked Claire's thread, possibly reducing the likelyihood that she would get more responses. I checked the list archive and it shows the same way, so it is *defintitely* not a problem on my end. Anyway, don't get your knickers in a knot. Oh, and BTW, the list rules specifically ask you to limit your line wrap to 68-72 characters, IIRC. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: nodex.sytes.net ++ It is so stupid of modern civilisation to have given up believing in the devil when he is the only explanation of it. -- Ronald Knox, Let Dons Delight Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 Beta 2
On Sunday August 24 2003 02:23 pm, David E. Fox wrote: That's all done and running properly. 'date', xclock, what have you, all show the correct time. There was one time recently when the time was about 20 minutes off but I fixed it. It's the *KDE* clock display that's wrong. Right now it's fine but give it a while and it'll spontaneously change. Or maybe it won't. We'll see. I just did a urpmi --auto-select earlier this morning and I notice 160 new / changed packages. A few times after KDE cooker updates I've had to reset the clock. R-click on it, adjust time an date, make sure format is set to USA-english. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 Beta 2
HaywireMac; No knickers to worry about! You might be right about the hijack, under the conditions you specified. I didn't see a hijack happening, because my thread was under a different name. Just so you know, I've never even seen any list of rules, didn't even know they existed until now. When I signed onto the list (dinaosaurs were just fading out of existence back then, LOL!), there weren't any rules mentioned there. Usually, I use the reply function in my email client to respond or to post to the list. Since the function is there, I just make use of it. But if I'm changing the contents of the subject-line, I interpret that as a new thread. Maybe that's where I'm going wrong? Or maybe the server just handles it that way. Perhaps if someone created a HowTo and made it a bit more obvious than a list of rules that some don't even know about? However, if I misspoke, I also apologize. You just caught me by surprise on that one! Have you got a link to these rules? Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 8/24/2003 at 1:56 PM HaywireMac wrote: On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 12:57:18 -0400 Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Excuse me? I thought this was a thread about Mandrake 9.2 Beta2? What did I hijack? Please define a hijack for me, so I can avoid it. Besides, isn't this a List about Mandrake Linux? It has been since I joined 4 years ago ! Please explain how I could've hijacked a thread when I believe I was the one who posted this in the first place! Well, from the way the thread looks here (*possibly* due to threading issues with the list, so if that is the case, I most humbly apologize), your 9.2 beta post was in reply to Stephen Kuhn, who was replying to the thread started by Claire Suttle about her problem with getting good 9.1 ISOs. In that sense it *appears* you hijacked Claire's thread, possibly reducing the likelyihood that she would get more responses. I checked the list archive and it shows the same way, so it is *defintitely* not a problem on my end. Anyway, don't get your knickers in a knot. Oh, and BTW, the list rules specifically ask you to limit your line wrap to 68-72 characters, IIRC. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: nodex.sytes.net ++ It is so stupid of modern civilisation to have given up believing in the devil when he is the only explanation of it. -- Ronald Knox, Let Dons Delight Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 Beta 2
On Sunday August 24 2003 01:56 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: How, specifically, are you adjusting your time zones? With ntpd? Just pick a time server in your zone. For syncing your software clock to your hardware clock see 'man hwclock'. EG, hwclock --systohc' -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 Beta 2
Tom Brinkman wrote: On Sunday August 24 2003 01:56 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote: How, specifically, are you adjusting your time zones? With ntpd? Just pick a time server in your zone. For syncing your software clock to your hardware clock see 'man hwclock'. EG, hwclock --systohc' My clock is running fine. I wanted to know how he was setting his clock in KDE. -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux user #322847 | Linux machine #207465 | http://counter.li.org/ AMD Duron 1.3GHz | Mandrake 9.1 | Kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdkduron KDE 3.1.3 | Mozilla 1.4 Mail Client ___ All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. -Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 Beta 2
On Monday 25 Aug 2003 6:02 pm, Lanman wrote: HaywireMac; No knickers to worry about! You might be right about the hijack, under the conditions you specified. I didn't see a hijack happening, because my thread was under a different name. Just so you know, I've never even seen any list of rules, didn't even know they existed until now. When I signed onto the list (dinaosaurs were just fading out of existence back then, LOL!), there weren't any rules mentioned there. Usually, I use the reply function in my email client to respond or to post to the list. Since the function is there, I just make use of it. But if I'm changing the contents of the subject-line, I interpret that as a new thread. Maybe that's where I'm going wrong? Or maybe the server just handles it that way. Actually, Lanman, that *is* what caused the problem. If you check the full headers of a thread you will see a list of reference such as References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is what is used to keep threads together, so if you erase a subject line to start a new thread it is still linked by the references. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 Beta 2
On Sunday August 24 2003 07:04 am, Lanman wrote: Since the release of 9.2 Beta2 I haven't heard or seen anything about it from anyone on the list. Is this because it's so amazing that list members are speechless? I've run cooker only since 7.2. Current cooker is solid, no problems on a overclocked XP 3000+. 2266 Mhz on a KT400a chipset with 512MB DDR 419, Cas2.5, R/C 2, preCh 2, 2-bank. I don't have or need a printer. I highly suggest you read this site, http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/CookerHowTo Or because they can't finish an install, and are therefore disconnected from the Net ? I tried burning and installing them, and it quickly went to hell. Several restarts later (this is the short version), I got to the end of the install. When it tried to detect my printer (Brother MFC4800), which is not supported by Linux yet, it displayed a message that it was unable to find printer.rpm and stopped there. That's it. All done. It simply wouldn't go any further. I'm considering re-doing the install without a printer attached to see if that solves it, but without the above-noted rpm, I doubt it will finish properly at all. Obviously, either the rpm is not on the CD's at all, or the path statement used by the installer is wrong. Either way, it's not happening. Get a connection and use urpmi to update to current. I'd recommend you first 'urpmi urpmi', then urpmi --auto-select. I use this alias to update several times a day, alias cook='urpmi.update -a -f --wget urpmi --wget --no-verify-rpm --auto-select -v' I'd also suggest you install the current kernel ASAP, $ uname -r 2.4.22-0.7mdk Mirrors have been screwed up lately, but since Sat. (8/23) they're in order again. OTOH, RC1 was due last Friday. Look for it to come out very soon (probly why the mirrors were froze ;) ftp://sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake-iso/i586 I suspect if you update to current, you'll have RC1 Any suggestions or similar situations out there in Mandrake-Land? I realize that it's a Beta, and that there may be bugs in it still, but perhaps there's a work-around? Also, didn't Mandrake announce that the new 2.6 Kernel would be added to Beta2? Didn't find it. FYI, I checked the md5sums of course. Just curious if anyone had something to offer about any of this ? Thanks in Advance,... Lanman Only issue I've had lately is with DM's. None of the Session Managers wanna work properly for me. So I boot to level 3 and 'startx'. Nobody else is complainin so I reckon I've got a borked config file. Level 3 is better for testing overclocking with mprime-17 and burnK7 tho anyhow ;) You didn't say anything about your hardware, other than your tree killer ; Some things like nforce2 chipsets have issues. Check the cooker ML archive (or LKML). http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cookerr=1w=2 has a good search engine. IMO, runnin cooker requires daily reading of the cooker and CHRPM (change log) lists. If your printer is still a problem, post to the cooker list, and if need be file a bug report on bugzilla. Hurry every chance you get, it's gettin late in the 9.2 testing stages. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 Beta 2
I've run cooker only since 7.2. Current cooker is solid, no problems on a overclocked XP 3000+. 2266 Mhz on a KT400a chipset It's *pretty* solid. There are still some issues I'm experiencing. One is the timezone drift in kde's clock - my time zone is 5 hours off. I have retried the fix multiple times with no luck. The best approach seems to be to restart KDE. It is getting better. With the last urpmi, it lasted nearly the whole weekend and then all of a sudden it's five hours off. It thinks I'm in SSY+ time now. If I try to adjust it the closest I can get to my time zone is your time zone :). Maybe I should move to Texas? :) ;) I think I got that one reported to Cooker bugzilla recently. Still, it's a relatively minor bug. The OS time is correct so I'm not worried. I just have to glance at my watch every time I see the clock on screen and say oh yeah'. with 512MB DDR 419, Cas2.5, R/C 2, preCh 2, 2-bank. I don't have or need a printer. I highly suggest you read this site, Then you might not have noticed bug #2, which I think is a show stopper. I can't print. Printing here results in launching a Perl process (used to be parallel:/dev/lp1, there also was a 'gs' process) that will just eat all RAM swap. Since you have 512 megs of RAM yours might not fall over like mine, but there's no indication that the Perl is not requesting infinite memory. the install. When it tried to detect my printer (Brother MFC4800), which is not supported by Linux yet, it displayed a message that it was unable to find printer.rpm and stopped That's been reported and is repeatable. The error message is a dialog box complaining about some missing printer-utils RPM. The bad news is that holds up the install. The good news is that you can shutdown and restart into a clean upgrade (more or less) at that point. I haven't made interim ISOs so have no idea if an upgrade install addresses the problem. I've been doing interim urpmi.update's on a regular basis, at least twice a week. Also, noatun and kaboodle no longer function. They haven't for some time. OK, so there are other sound programs to use. Then there are the random unexplained seg faults in konqueror, and in k3b (coastered cds.) LX brought this up last weekend: How are you supposed to be able to make a boot disk in cooker 9.2? The kernel image is too damned big! Most of this admittedly belongs on cooker's list but I haven't subscribed to it. I subscribed to changelog though. The OP should look at qa.mandrakesoft.com. The Cooker howto (while useful) really doesn't address the OP's issues with it. Mirrors have been screwed up lately, but since Sat. (8/23) they're in order again. OTOH, RC1 was due last Friday. Look for it Hmm. Well, I'm just running another urpmi.update -a urpmi --auto-select just for good measure. to come out very soon (probly why the mirrors were froze ;) ftp://sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake-iso/i586 I suspect if you update to current, you'll have RC1 RC1 is out? (yum) You didn't say anything about your hardware, other than your tree killer ; Some things like nforce2 chipsets have issues. Mine's rock solid. Been through the mprime torture test a few times, cpuburn OK, etc. Too bad it's only an athlon 1000 256 megs of RAM though. Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 Beta 2
Any suggestions or similar situations out there in Mandrake-Land? I realize= that it's a Beta, and that there may be bugs in it still, but perhaps ther= It happened to me... Lanman, see my other post to Tom on this. The upshot is that even with the missing rpm message, you can reboot and get a working install. It's nearly at the end of the install. RC1 (rumor unsubstantiated) is out. You could burn new images. e's a work-around? Also, didn't Mandrake announce that the new 2.6 Kernel w= ould be added to Beta2? Didn't find it. FYI, I checked the md5sums of cours= Hmm. I have not seen it. I'm not about to try something that dangerous :). You might want to urpmi kernel to see if it shows up. AFAIK 2.6 is not going to be shipped with 9.2. Lanman David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 Beta 2
On Sunday 24 Aug 2003 1:04 pm, Lanman wrote: The only way I managed to install it was to first disconnect my printer completely. Cannot remember what else wasn't working but I decided to go back to 9.1. Fortunately my /home stuff was still there and I didn't even notice I'd reinstalled. HTH Mark A Since the release of 9.2 Beta2 I haven't heard or seen anything about it from anyone on the list. Is this because it's so amazing that list members are speechless? Or because they can't finish an install, and are therefore disconnected from the Net ? I tried burning and installing them, and it quickly went to hell. Several restarts later (this is the short version), I got to the end of the install. When it tried to detect my printer (Brother MFC4800), which is not supported by Linux yet, it displayed a message that it was unable to find printer.rpm and stopped there. That's it. All done. It simply wouldn't go any further. I'm considering re-doing the install without a printer attached to see if that solves it, but without the above-noted rpm, I doubt it will finish properly at all. Obviously, either the rpm is not on the CD's at all, or the path statement used by the installer is wrong. Either way, it's not happening. Any suggestions or similar situations out there in Mandrake-Land? I realize that it's a Beta, and that there may be bugs in it still, but perhaps there's a work-around? Also, didn't Mandrake announce that the new 2.6 Kernel would be added to Beta2? Didn't find it. FYI, I checked the md5sums of course. Just curious if anyone had something to offer about any of this ? Thanks in Advance,... Lanman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 Beta 2
Thanks Tom dfox. Since I was using a removable hard drive rack, it's not that critical. I'll wait for RC1. Tom, went to the website you mentioned, but I didn't see anything about how to get around the printer problem I was having. The install fails as soon as it tries to run printer-utils.rpm. At that point, I have 2 options - keep clicking the OK button until I wear out my mouse, or reset the computer, and use my other hard drive to run 9.1. Curious though,...you'd think that something as basic (on a relative scale that is,...) as the install GUI would work, since the 9.1 GUI is fine. All they'd have to do is to add options and anything else necessary for the new packages, after they update the paths for the newer versions of existing or standard packages. Wonder how something as basic as the printer-utils.rpm package could've been missed? Well, it's beyond me, and that's probably a good thing! LOL! H,... Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 8/24/2003 at 8:46 AM Tom Brinkman wrote: On Sunday August 24 2003 07:04 am, Lanman wrote: Since the release of 9.2 Beta2 I haven't heard or seen anything about it from anyone on the list. Is this because it's so amazing that list members are speechless? I've run cooker only since 7.2. Current cooker is solid, no problems on a overclocked XP 3000+. 2266 Mhz on a KT400a chipset with 512MB DDR 419, Cas2.5, R/C 2, preCh 2, 2-bank. I don't have or need a printer. I highly suggest you read this site, http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/CookerHowTo Or because they can't finish an install, and are therefore disconnected from the Net ? I tried burning and installing them, and it quickly went to hell. Several restarts later (this is the short version), I got to the end of the install. When it tried to detect my printer (Brother MFC4800), which is not supported by Linux yet, it displayed a message that it was unable to find printer.rpm and stopped there. That's it. All done. It simply wouldn't go any further. I'm considering re-doing the install without a printer attached to see if that solves it, but without the above-noted rpm, I doubt it will finish properly at all. Obviously, either the rpm is not on the CD's at all, or the path statement used by the installer is wrong. Either way, it's not happening. Get a connection and use urpmi to update to current. I'd recommend you first 'urpmi urpmi', then urpmi --auto-select. I use this alias to update several times a day, alias cook='urpmi.update -a -f --wget urpmi --wget --no-verify-rpm --auto-select -v' I'd also suggest you install the current kernel ASAP, $ uname -r 2.4.22-0.7mdk Mirrors have been screwed up lately, but since Sat. (8/23) they're in order again. OTOH, RC1 was due last Friday. Look for it to come out very soon (probly why the mirrors were froze ;) ftp://sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake-iso/i586 I suspect if you update to current, you'll have RC1 Any suggestions or similar situations out there in Mandrake-Land? I realize that it's a Beta, and that there may be bugs in it still, but perhaps there's a work-around? Also, didn't Mandrake announce that the new 2.6 Kernel would be added to Beta2? Didn't find it. FYI, I checked the md5sums of course. Just curious if anyone had something to offer about any of this ? Thanks in Advance,... Lanman Only issue I've had lately is with DM's. None of the Session Managers wanna work properly for me. So I boot to level 3 and 'startx'. Nobody else is complainin so I reckon I've got a borked config file. Level 3 is better for testing overclocking with mprime-17 and burnK7 tho anyhow ;) You didn't say anything about your hardware, other than your tree killer ; Some things like nforce2 chipsets have issues. Check the cooker ML archive (or LKML). http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cookerr=1w=2 has a good search engine. IMO, runnin cooker requires daily reading of the cooker and CHRPM (change log) lists. If your printer is still a problem, post to the cooker list, and if need be file a bug report on bugzilla. Hurry every chance you get, it's gettin late in the 9.2 testing stages. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 Beta 2
On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 08:04:38 -0400 Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Any suggestions in Mandrake-Land? Ya, don't hijack threads. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: nodex.sytes.net ++ If we do not change our direction we are likely to end up where we are headed. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 Beta 2
Thanks. Maybe I read the release incorrectly. They must have been saying th= at it would be included in the next version, and I took it to mean Beta2, n= Just checking sunsite.uio.no ATM -- beta 2 is still there. No RC1 yet. But there's been a flurry of activity. I just finished a urpmi --auto-select a few minutes ago --- 160 package updates. The neat thing is that printing now seems to be working - 2 page per sheet PDF in konqueror doesn't seem to want to do anything. I guess I could be missing an RPM (mpage?). Clock is OK (PST). I'm watching it to see if it changes yet again... Lanman David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 Beta 2
Excuse me? I thought this was a thread about Mandrake 9.2 Beta2? What did I hijack? Please define a hijack for me, so I can avoid it. Besides, isn't this a List about Mandrake Linux? It has been since I joined 4 years ago ! Please explain how I could've hijacked a thread when I believe I was the one who posted this in the first place! Lanman *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 8/24/2003 at 11:38 AM HaywireMac wrote: On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 08:04:38 -0400 Lanman [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Any suggestions in Mandrake-Land? Ya, don't hijack threads. -- HaywireMac Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: nodex.sytes.net ++ If we do not change our direction we are likely to end up where we are headed. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 Beta 2
On Sunday August 24 2003 10:27 am, David E. Fox wrote: Lanman, see my other post to Tom on this. The upshot is that even with the missing rpm message, you can reboot and get a working install. It's nearly at the end of the install. RC1 (rumor unsubstantiated) is out. You could burn new images. Haven't got your post yet David. I don't see RC1 on the mirrors yet, just checked. I'm fairly certain current cooker is RC1. I'd just go ahead an update beta2 to current, rather than fool with the iso's. I just usually d/l the iso's for backup, or to take a look at the installer (upgrade an already current cooker). Then urpmi any missing rpms from the beta2 install. e's a work-around? Also, didn't Mandrake announce that the new 2.6 Kernel w= ould be added to Beta2? Didn't find it. FYI, I checked the md5sums of cours= Hmm. I have not seen it. I'm not about to try something that dangerous :). You might want to urpmi kernel to see if it shows up. AFAIK : 2.6 is not going to be shipped with 9.2. Whether it will or not, it's on cooker mirrors in /contribs (RPMS2). ftp://sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS2/kernel-2.6.0-0.test3.1mdk-1-1mdk.i586.rpm That's test3, test4 should be available shortly. I don't think 2.6 will be in mainstream distros till early next year. I wouldn't fool with it just now. -- Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 Beta 2
Do you have your time set correctly in bios? Do you run ntpd ? I have no time issues with 9.2 over two differnet sets of hardware (motherboard clock RTC chipsets). http://www.ntp.org/ has a list of That's all done and running properly. 'date', xclock, what have you, all show the correct time. There was one time recently when the time was about 20 minutes off but I fixed it. It's the *KDE* clock display that's wrong. Right now it's fine but give it a while and it'll spontaneously change. Or maybe it won't. We'll see. I just did a urpmi --auto-select earlier this morning and I notice 160 new / changed packages. [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# service ntpd status ntpd (pid 1112) is running... [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# date Sun Aug 24 11:43:38 PDT 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# ntptrace localhost.localdomain: stratum 3, offset 0.26, synch distance 0.12144 time.nrc.ca: stratum 2, offset -0.016175, synch distance 0.04117 tac.nrc.ca: stratum 1, offset -0.018553, synch distance 0.00172, refid 'PPS' Seems close enough for government work. (Something my junior high school science teacher used to say.) [root /tom] $ service ntpd status How often does this thing sync? I don't have a printer. No problems here ;) FWIW that got squashed; printing is back to normal. They work fine here. Onboard AC97 5.1 surround sound, uses alsa. I did recently havt'a start usin aRts to play QT (Sorenson) .mov's emu10k1 here, sblive. arts doesn't seem to want to get loaded. Near as I can tell, it's complaining that it can't connect to a socket in /tmp/mcop-dfox/. Yet there are files therein and they are recent. (mplayer -ao arts file.mov). That's a latest mplayer issue tho. The latest alsa in cooker works fine for everything else. MOF, I'm impressed. Well, since arts couldn't get loaded, no sound. But without the -ao mplayer is happy. Funny thing is that no sound drivers seem to be loaded (apart from those modules in the kernel, of course) and the system plays sounds just fine. Dunno wny one needs an extra complication above what is already there. I want to try some mov files again but traler park wants the flash plugin. I get it, install it, and still it thinks it's not there. I've had that problem for some time now. I wouldn't touch k3b with a ten foot pole. 'Sides, the CL is quicker an easier for burnin CDr's than any GUI app. No problems Agreed up to a point, and depends on to what extent this can be automated. At some point one might have a bunch of files, and some processing may be needed on some files. For a lot of things cdrecord is better - if you like saying 'cdrecord -dev 1,0,0 -speed 4 -audio -pad ' and then typing in filename after filename that contain spaces and underscores in the most obscene places. At some point you'll want some GUI, if only to feed cdrecord a list of files. I was messing around the other day and burned an avi via 'cdrecord -dev 1,0,0 -data johnq.avi'. To view it, I have to dd /dev/cdrom because there ain't no filesystem. But the other day when I burn a number of mp3s (this time using gcombust) I can mount the CD, or play it in my mp3 player(s). Is it that in case a) I am dealing with only 1 file? I also was futzing around with making an ISO image that I can loopback mount hang off somewhere in /tmp. The idea is that I can then open konqueror, copy files to the ISO to my heart's content, and then burn the image with cdrecord when I'm done. The closest I got was that I made a file of approximately 650 megabytes using dd, then mkisofs that file - it appeared to do something, but the ISO is still just a file of zero bytes. And at one point I had a ISO containing its own self-image (again full of zeros) with no way to remove that file to put other files inside. And if we want to make VCD's ... well let's just not go there now. Sig11's point as much to hardware (ram) as anything else. So eliminate that first. Memtest86 is OK, but not a ram test. It uses I did all that (mprime, memtest, cpuburn) - no problems at all, this box is solid. Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 Beta 2
Thanks. Maybe I read the release incorrectly. They must have been saying that it would be included in the next version, and I took it to mean Beta2, not 9.3. I'm going to wait for RC1 before doing a real upgrade. Lanman Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 9.2 Beta 2
On Sunday August 24 2003 09:59 am, David E. Fox wrote:
I've run cooker only since 7.2. Current cooker is solid, no
problems on a overclocked XP 3000+. 2266 Mhz on a KT400a
chipset
It's *pretty* solid. There are still some issues I'm
experiencing. One is the timezone drift in kde's clock - my time
zone is 5 hours off. I have retried the fix multiple times with
no luck. The best approach seems to be to restart KDE. It is
getting better. With the last urpmi, it lasted nearly the whole
weekend and then all of a sudden it's five hours off. It thinks
I'm in SSY+ time now. If I try to adjust it the closest I can get
to my time zone is your time zone :). Maybe I should move to
Texas? :) ;)
I think I got that one reported to Cooker bugzilla recently.
Do you have your time set correctly in bios? Do you run ntpd ?
I have no time issues with 9.2 over two differnet sets of hardware
(motherboard clock RTC chipsets). http://www.ntp.org/ has a list of
time servers, ntp is in cooker (ntp-4.1.2-1mdk) I use, tick.uh.edu
(U of Houston, Central time). You'll need to have your time set
fairly close before ntpd can sync it with a server's atomic clock.
It uses a calculus algorithm to correct the error half at a time,
eventually approaching an exact sync. (n/2 0)
[root /tom] $ service ntpd status
ntpd (pid 1795) is running...I have a dynamic IP, an I shut the
connection off every once in awhile to get a different IP (for
security sake). ntpd doesn't complain when the connection's not up.
Then you might not have noticed bug #2, which I think is a show
stopper. I can't print. Printing here results in launching a Perl
process (used to be parallel:/dev/lp1, there also was a 'gs'
process) that will just eat all RAM swap. Since you have 512
megs of RAM yours might not fall over like mine, but there's no
indication that the Perl is not requesting infinite memory.
I don't have a printer. No problems here ;)
the install. When it tried to detect my printer (Brother
MFC4800), which is not supported by Linux yet, it displayed a
message that it was unable to find printer.rpm and stopped
Also, noatun and kaboodle no longer function. They haven't for
some time. OK, so there are other sound programs to use.
They work fine here. Onboard AC97 5.1 surround sound, uses alsa.
I did recently havt'a start usin aRts to play QT (Sorenson) .mov's
(mplayer -ao arts file.mov). That's a latest mplayer issue tho.
The latest alsa in cooker works fine for everything else. MOF, I'm
impressed.
Then there are the random unexplained seg faults in konqueror,
and in k3b (coastered cds.)
I wouldn't touch k3b with a ten foot pole. 'Sides, the CL is
quicker an easier for burnin CDr's than any GUI app. No problems
here. If you're stuck in a GUI, try simplecdrx. It won't fsck'up
your fstab like k3b wants to, and can.
Sig11's point as much to hardware (ram) as anything else. So
eliminate that first. Memtest86 is OK, but not a ram test. It uses
cpu/cache/ram (L1 L@ cpu caches and the ram). Run it without the
caches enabled ('c' for configure) to try and get closer to
checking installed ram. mprime is a better, harder cpu/cache/ram
test. Choose 17, the torture test. It should just keep on chuggin
along, no errors.
LX brought this up last weekend: How are you supposed to be able
to make a boot disk in cooker 9.2? The kernel image is too damned
big!
Support for all the crazy hardware people go out an buy, then
see if it'll work on Linux. Instead of the other way around. If
you're not usin XFS, then you should be able to compile a trimmed
down kernel and 'mkbootdisk $(uname -r)'. But why?... the first CD
provides rescue functions. I haven't bothered with a boot floppy in
ages. 'Sides my ancient floppy drive died some time ago anyhow ;)
Most of this admittedly belongs on cooker's list but I haven't
subscribed to it. I subscribed to changelog though.
That's you're first mistake IMO. Read the cooker list, or at
least daily check the archive. Which takes more time to do than
just subscribin to an readin the list.
Mirrors have been screwed up lately, but since Sat. (8/23)
they're in order again. OTOH, RC1 was due last Friday. Look
for it
Hmm. Well, I'm just running another urpmi.update -a urpmi
--auto-select just for good measure.
Latest (synthesis)hdlist is 8/23, 9:23 AM on the primary mirror,
with no files missing. Cooker should be updated daily.
to come out very soon (probly why the mirrors were froze ;)
ftp://sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake-iso/i586
I suspect if you update to current, you'll have RC1
RC1 is out? (yum)
An educated conjecture on my part. I expect the iso's on mirrors
any time now. Probly by Mon. or Tues. I'll let ya have first crack
at 'em ;) I'm already runnin RC1.
--
Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas
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Re: [newbie] 9.2 Beta 2
David E. Fox wrote: I've run cooker only since 7.2. Current cooker is solid, no problems on a overclocked XP 3000+. 2266 Mhz on a KT400a chipset It's *pretty* solid. There are still some issues I'm experiencing. One is the timezone drift in kde's clock - my time zone is 5 hours off. I have retried the fix multiple times with no luck. The best approach seems to be to restart KDE. It is getting better. With the last urpmi, it lasted nearly the whole weekend and then all of a sudden it's five hours off. It thinks I'm in SSY+ time now. If I try to adjust it the closest I can get to my time zone is your time zone :). Maybe I should move to Texas? :) ;) I think I got that one reported to Cooker bugzilla recently. Still, it's a relatively minor bug. The OS time is correct so I'm not worried. I just have to glance at my watch every time I see the clock on screen and say oh yeah'. with 512MB DDR 419, Cas2.5, R/C 2, preCh 2, 2-bank. I don't have or need a printer. I highly suggest you read this site, Then you might not have noticed bug #2, which I think is a show stopper. I can't print. Printing here results in launching a Perl process (used to be parallel:/dev/lp1, there also was a 'gs' process) that will just eat all RAM swap. Since you have 512 megs of RAM yours might not fall over like mine, but there's no indication that the Perl is not requesting infinite memory. the install. When it tried to detect my printer (Brother MFC4800), which is not supported by Linux yet, it displayed a message that it was unable to find printer.rpm and stopped That's been reported and is repeatable. The error message is a dialog box complaining about some missing printer-utils RPM. The bad news is that holds up the install. The good news is that you can shutdown and restart into a clean upgrade (more or less) at that point. I haven't made interim ISOs so have no idea if an upgrade install addresses the problem. I've been doing interim urpmi.update's on a regular basis, at least twice a week. Also, noatun and kaboodle no longer function. They haven't for some time. OK, so there are other sound programs to use. Then there are the random unexplained seg faults in konqueror, and in k3b (coastered cds.) LX brought this up last weekend: How are you supposed to be able to make a boot disk in cooker 9.2? The kernel image is too damned big! Most of this admittedly belongs on cooker's list but I haven't subscribed to it. I subscribed to changelog though. The OP should look at qa.mandrakesoft.com. The Cooker howto (while useful) really doesn't address the OP's issues with it. Mirrors have been screwed up lately, but since Sat. (8/23) they're in order again. OTOH, RC1 was due last Friday. Look for it Hmm. Well, I'm just running another urpmi.update -a urpmi --auto-select just for good measure. to come out very soon (probly why the mirrors were froze ;) ftp://sunsite.uio.no/pub/unix/Linux/Mandrake/Mandrake-iso/i586 I suspect if you update to current, you'll have RC1 RC1 is out? (yum) You didn't say anything about your hardware, other than your tree killer ; Some things like nforce2 chipsets have issues. Mine's rock solid. Been through the mprime torture test a few times, cpuburn OK, etc. Too bad it's only an athlon 1000 256 megs of RAM though. Tom Brinkman Corpus Christi, Texas David E. Fox Thanks for letting me How, specifically, are you adjusting your time zones? -- Brant Fitzsimmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Linux user #322847 | Linux machine #207465 | http://counter.li.org/ AMD Duron 1.3GHz | Mandrake 9.1 | Kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdkduron KDE 3.1.3 | Mozilla 1.4 Mail Client ___ All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. -Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
