Re: [newbie] Laptop Question

2003-06-06 Thread Cody Harris


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To: Cody Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Unfortunately not. The disk is encrypted. You can see this by booting
from
a floppy and trying to access
to the hard disk. The only way you can solve this is to have someone
who
knows the system password
to help you. The only other option is to format the drive.
Best regards,

Petri .

At 09:16 PM 6/4/2003 +0100, you wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jun 2003 19:28:13
-0600
FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 09:34 PM 6/2/2003 -0300, you wrote:
 
 Whats her face has left the building me thinks  is
no longer in the
 mood to help.
 
 beleive me i tried.
Hehehe. Kids of today, no manners.
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Re: [newbie] Laptop Question

2003-06-05 Thread RichardA
On Mon, 02 Jun 2003 19:28:13 -0600
FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 09:34 PM 6/2/2003 -0300, you wrote:
 
 Whats her face has left the building me thinks  is no longer in the
 mood to help.
 
 beleive me i tried.

Hehehe. Kids of today, no manners.

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[newbie] Laptop Question

2003-06-03 Thread Cody Harris


Ok, scenario:
I have a laptop with Windoze 95 on it. It's partition is Pri
DOS. I cannot read this from a boot disk and can not log into
Windoze (PC/DACS disabled my login after windoze fudged up after
installing a PC CARD (network)). I tried removing the hard drive and
installing it on my computer, but the cable is a different size. It's 48
MB with a P1. My question is: how do i get onto the drive, send my files
over the network, and format without installing a full version of
Linux.
Remember: I don't want anything to be written to the drive, so i need a
version that can either run across a network or from a disk.
Any other suggestions welcome!

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Re: [newbie] Laptop Question

2003-06-03 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Monday 02 June 2003 21:46, Cody Harris wrote:
 At 03:37 PM 6/2/2003 -0400, you wrote:
 On Monday 02 June 2003 02:53 pm, Cody Harris graced me with:
   Ok, scenario:
   I have a laptop with Windoze 95 on it. It's partition is Pri DOS.
   I cannot read this from a boot disk and can not log into Windoze
   (PC/DACS disabled my login after windoze fudged up after installing
   a PC CARD (network)). I tried removing the hard drive and
   installing it on my computer, but the cable is a different size.
   It's 48 MB with a P1. My question is: how do i get onto the drive,
   send my files over the network, and format without installing a
   full version of Linux.
  
   Remember: I don't want anything to be written to the drive, so i
   need a version that can either run across a network or from a disk.
  
   Any other suggestions welcome!
 
 Hey, Cody,
 
 I'm not sure that I am reading your post correctly, so please help me
 out and forgive if I am way off
 
 Are you trying to run Linux without installing to your hard drive, or
 to recover data off your hard drive, or what? I'm confused with your
 purpose, that's all. :-)

 Recover data

 Since I am not sure what you want to do, you could take this for what
 it's worth.
 
 Knoppix is designed to run off the CD-ROM drive. If this portable
 beastie is blessed with a CD-ROM drive, you could run that and never
 really have to use your hard drive for it. There are some
 caveats...and they would be big ones for you:
 
 Knoppix, at least a modern copy, is going to need lots of RAM. That's
 where all your important directories and files that need to loaded
 are put (like /home, for instance). It essentially divides up and
 uses your RAM memory as if it was your hard drive. Once you turn of
 your computer, all is lost (though you could opt to save configs to
 the hard drive so that you wouldn't have to re-config each time you
 boot-up...your choice, there.) If I read your post correctly, your
 laptop only has 48 MB of RAM. Did I? That's not enough for this. If I
 understood that your P1 refers to a Pentium Classic, a P233 MHz is
 going to be the bottom end and still be able to run KDE or Gnome. At
 least this is what I experienced on a test PC running a P233 with 128
 MB RAM, using Knoppix 3.2.

 Yes, it has CD. It's an old laptop, so Knoppix wouldn't work.

 There are some projects out there that provide Linux on a floppy disk,
 and some minimal O/S installs that might work, but the floppy one is
 the only one that I seem to recall would allow you to run without
 using the hard drive. This information is the better part of a year
 old, so I can't vouch for your ability to find any of these
 resources. Try doing a search using some key words that imply running
 on a floppy or from a CD.

 But will they run my network card?

 I'll take a look at my old bookmarks and see if I can find this stuff
 for you. I save everything, but then I can't seem to find where I put
 things afterwardI had that workstation here moments
 ago...h...

 Ok, thanks.

 HTH,
 
 T

Frankly you have a few options here, depending on what you're out out to 
retain.

If you just want yer Windoze95 back up and running and know where to look and 
edit: Get a tomsrtb boot floppy off the net (http://www.toms.net/rb/) and 
boot from that. Don't use knoppix or anything with a gui if you've only got 
32M ram!

If this is too much: find a friend or go to

  http://www.wown.com/j_helmig/w9xbtflp.htm

for a winders boot floppy and use that.

And/or: Shove winders and install linux:o)

Good luck,
HarM





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Re: [newbie] Laptop Question

2003-06-03 Thread Marc Oestreicher
On Monday 02 June 2003 02:46 pm, Cody Harris wrote:
 At 03:37 PM 6/2/2003 -0400, you wrote:
 On Monday 02 June 2003 02:53 pm, Cody Harris graced me with:
   Ok, scenario:
   I have a laptop with Windoze 95 on it. It's partition is Pri
   DOS. I cannot read this from a boot disk and can not log
   into Windoze (PC/DACS disabled my login after windoze fudged
   up after installing a PC CARD (network)). I tried removing
   the hard drive and installing it on my computer, but the
   cable is a different size. It's 48 MB with a P1. My question
   is: how do i get onto the drive, send my files over the
   network, and format without installing a full version of
   Linux.
  
   Remember: I don't want anything to be written to the drive,
   so i need a version that can either run across a network or
   from a disk.
  
   Any other suggestions welcome!
 
 Hey, Cody,
 
 I'm not sure that I am reading your post correctly, so please
  help me out and forgive if I am way off
 
 Are you trying to run Linux without installing to your hard
  drive, or to recover data off your hard drive, or what? I'm
  confused with your purpose, that's all. :-)

 Recover data

   If all you are trying to do is recover data and transfer it to 
another drive  there is a handy hard drive adapter made that will 
mate most laptop hard drives to a standard IDE cable. I have not 
seen any of these adapters in the store but they seem to be all 
over ebay for $5 to $10. That should allow you to plug your laptop 
hard drive into a desktop and make the data recovery as simple as 
drag and drop in windoze or ML. 
  Note if your laptop HDD is in a carrier you may have to remove it 
from the carrier to make the adapter work but thats just a extra 4 
or six screws.
   I dont know if this is the answer that you were looking for but 
this method has worked for me in the past.

Marc
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 Windows free computer with
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Re: [newbie] Laptop Question

2003-06-03 Thread Barry Premeaux
Cody Harris wrote:

At 03:37 PM 6/2/2003 -0400, you wrote:

On Monday 02 June 2003 02:53 pm, Cody Harris graced me with:
 Ok, scenario:
 I have a laptop with Windoze 95 on it. It's partition is Pri DOS.
 I cannot read this from a boot disk and can not log into Windoze
 (PC/DACS disabled my login after windoze fudged up after installing
 a PC CARD (network)). I tried removing the hard drive and
 installing it on my computer, but the cable is a different size.
 It's 48 MB with a P1. My question is: how do i get onto the drive,
 send my files over the network, and format without installing a
 full version of Linux.

 Remember: I don't want anything to be written to the drive, so i
 need a version that can either run across a network or from a disk.

 Any other suggestions welcome!
Hey, Cody,

I'm not sure that I am reading your post correctly, so please help me
out and forgive if I am way off
Are you trying to run Linux without installing to your hard drive, or
to recover data off your hard drive, or what? I'm confused with your
purpose, that's all. :-)


Recover data


Since I am not sure what you want to do, you could take this for what
it's worth.
Knoppix is designed to run off the CD-ROM drive. If this portable
beastie is blessed with a CD-ROM drive, you could run that and never
really have to use your hard drive for it. There are some
caveats...and they would be big ones for you:
Knoppix, at least a modern copy, is going to need lots of RAM. That's
where all your important directories and files that need to loaded
are put (like /home, for instance). It essentially divides up and
uses your RAM memory as if it was your hard drive. Once you turn of
your computer, all is lost (though you could opt to save configs to
the hard drive so that you wouldn't have to re-config each time you
boot-up...your choice, there.) If I read your post correctly, your
laptop only has 48 MB of RAM. Did I? That's not enough for this. If I
understood that your P1 refers to a Pentium Classic, a P233 MHz is
going to be the bottom end and still be able to run KDE or Gnome. At
least this is what I experienced on a test PC running a P233 with 128
MB RAM, using Knoppix 3.2.

If ram is limited, you may want to take a look at 
http://www.linx-bbc.org and their verstion 2.1.  It can run on a lot 
less ram and has all the essential tools you would need.

Barry



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Re: [newbie] Laptop Question

2003-06-03 Thread Cody Harris


At 10:03 PM 6/2/2003 +0200, you wrote:
On Monday 02 June 2003 21:46, Cody
Harris wrote:
 At 03:37 PM 6/2/2003 -0400, you wrote:
 On Monday 02 June 2003 02:53 pm, Cody Harris graced me
with:
   Ok, scenario:
   I have a laptop with Windoze 95 on it. It's partition is
Pri DOS.
   I cannot read this from a boot disk and can not log into
Windoze
   (PC/DACS disabled my login after windoze fudged up after
installing
   a PC CARD (network)). I tried removing the hard drive
and
   installing it on my computer, but the cable is a different
size.
   It's 48 MB with a P1. My question is: how do i get onto
the drive,
   send my files over the network, and format without
installing a
   full version of Linux.
  
   Remember: I don't want anything to be written to the
drive, so i
   need a version that can either run across a network or
from a disk.
  
   Any other suggestions welcome!
 
 Hey, Cody,
 
 I'm not sure that I am reading your post correctly, so please
help me
 out and forgive if I am way off
 
 Are you trying to run Linux without installing to your hard
drive, or
 to recover data off your hard drive, or what? I'm confused with
your
 purpose, that's all. :-)

 Recover data

 Since I am not sure what you want to do, you could take this for
what
 it's worth.
 
 Knoppix is designed to run off the CD-ROM drive. If this
portable
 beastie is blessed with a CD-ROM drive, you could run that and
never
 really have to use your hard drive for it. There are some
 caveats...and they would be big ones for you:
 
 Knoppix, at least a modern copy, is going to need lots of RAM.
That's
 where all your important directories and files that need to
loaded
 are put (like /home, for instance). It essentially divides up
and
 uses your RAM memory as if it was your hard drive. Once you turn
of
 your computer, all is lost (though you could opt to save configs
to
 the hard drive so that you wouldn't have to re-config each time
you
 boot-up...your choice, there.) If I read your post correctly,
your
 laptop only has 48 MB of RAM. Did I? That's not enough for this.
If I
 understood that your P1 refers to a Pentium Classic, a P233 MHz
is
 going to be the bottom end and still be able to run KDE or
Gnome. At
 least this is what I experienced on a test PC running a P233
with 128
 MB RAM, using Knoppix 3.2.

 Yes, it has CD. It's an old laptop, so Knoppix wouldn't work.

 There are some projects out there that provide Linux on a floppy
disk,
 and some minimal O/S installs that might work, but the floppy
one is
 the only one that I seem to recall would allow you to run
without
 using the hard drive. This information is the better part of a
year
 old, so I can't vouch for your ability to find any of 
these
 resources. Try doing a search using some key words that imply
running
 on a floppy or from a CD.

 But will they run my network card?

 I'll take a look at my old bookmarks and see if I can find this
stuff
 for you. I save everything, but then I can't seem to find where
I put
 things afterwardI had that workstation here moments
 ago...h...

 Ok, thanks.

 HTH,
 
 T
Frankly you have a few options here, depending on what you're out out to

retain.
If you just want yer Windoze95 back up and running and know where to look
and 
edit: Get a tomsrtb boot floppy off the net
(http://www.toms.net/rb/)
and 
boot from that. Don't use knoppix or anything with a gui if you've only
got 
32M ram!
Where do i get PKUNZIP for dos?

If this is too much: find a friend
or go to

http://www.wown.com/j_helmig/w9xbtflp.htm
for a winders boot floppy and use that.
And/or: Shove winders and install linux:o)
Good luck,
HarM


Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to
http://www.mandrakestore.com

-Cody Harris
++
| Linux Rox My Sox! |
| Check out HCHS! |
| http://vectec.net
 |
++--+
| Proud to use Mandrake Linux 8.1 as a server. |
| Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. |
++--+
| Registered Linux user #315598 |

| Registered Linux Computer #200951 |
| Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( |
++




Re: [newbie] Laptop Question

2003-06-03 Thread FemmeFatale
At 03:37 PM 6/2/2003 -0400, you wrote:
On Monday 02 June 2003 02:53 pm, Cody Harris graced me with:
 Ok, scenario:
 I have a laptop with Windoze 95 on it. It's partition is Pri DOS.
 I cannot read this from a boot disk and can not log into Windoze
 (PC/DACS disabled my login after windoze fudged up after installing
 a PC CARD (network)). I tried removing the hard drive and
 installing it on my computer, but the cable is a different size.
 It's 48 MB with a P1. My question is: how do i get onto the drive,
 send my files over the network, and format without installing a
 full version of Linux.

 Remember: I don't want anything to be written to the drive, so i
 need a version that can either run across a network or from a disk.

 Any other suggestions welcome!
snips Slicks drivel... :) 
Coyote Linux. Runs on floppy.  TomsBRT IIRC Does too...its a rescue distro 
and does exactly what you want it to do.  avoid Small Linux like the 
plague.  Its a POS.  And is very tough for any newbie to figure out.

need more info ask i'll send bookmarks  stuff.
-
FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt
Good Decisions Your boss Made:
We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
character from Peanuts.
- Source: Dilbert



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Re: [newbie] Laptop Question

2003-06-03 Thread Cody Harris


At 04:05 PM 6/2/2003 -0600, you wrote:
At 03:37 PM 6/2/2003 -0400, you
wrote:
On Monday 02 June 2003 02:53 pm,
Cody Harris graced me with:
 Ok, scenario:
 I have a laptop with Windoze 95 on it. It's partition is Pri
DOS.
 I cannot read this from a boot disk and can not log into
Windoze
 (PC/DACS disabled my login after windoze fudged up after
installing
 a PC CARD (network)). I tried removing the hard drive and
 installing it on my computer, but the cable is a different
size.
 It's 48 MB with a P1. My question is: how do i get onto the
drive,
 send my files over the network, and format without installing 
a
 full version of Linux.

 Remember: I don't want anything to be written to the drive, so
i
 need a version that can either run across a network or from a
disk.

 Any other suggestions welcome!
snips Slicks drivel... :) 
Coyote Linux. Runs on floppy. TomsBRT IIRC Does too...its a rescue
distro and does exactly what you want it to do. avoid Small Linux
like the plague. Its a POS. And is very tough for any newbie
to figure out.
What's the site?

need more info ask i'll send
bookmarks  stuff.
-
FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt
Good Decisions Your boss Made:
We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked
that
character from Peanuts.
- Source: Dilbert


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Re: [newbie] Laptop Question

2003-06-03 Thread FemmeFatale
At 06:24 PM 6/2/2003 -0300, you wrote:


Where do i get PKUNZIP for dos?
-Cody Harris
Repeat after me: Google is my friend... now write that on a blackboard 100 
times before you go home.

http://nct.digitalriver.com/fulfill/0018.4

-
FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt
Good Decisions Your boss Made:
We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
character from Peanuts.
- Source: Dilbert



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Re: [newbie] Laptop Question

2003-06-03 Thread Cody Harris


At 04:10 PM 6/2/2003 -0600, you wrote:
At 06:24 PM 6/2/2003 -0300, you
wrote:

Where do i get PKUNZIP for
dos?
-Cody Harris
Repeat after me: Google is my friend... now write that on a blackboard
100 times before you go home.
http://nct.digitalriver.com/fulfill/0018.4

it won't download.
-
FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt
Good Decisions Your boss Made:
We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked
that
character from Peanuts.
- Source: Dilbert


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| Check out HCHS! |
| http://vectec.net
 |
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| Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. |
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Re: [newbie] Laptop Question

2003-06-03 Thread FemmeFatale
At 06:24 PM 6/2/2003 -0300, you wrote:


Where do i get PKUNZIP for dos?


ignore last post check your pvt mail.
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FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt
Good Decisions Your boss Made:
We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
character from Peanuts.
- Source: Dilbert



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Re: [newbie] Laptop Question

2003-06-03 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Monday 02 June 2003 23:24, Cody Harris wrote:
 Where do i get PKUNZIP for dos?

Frankly: Dunno I've got it somewhere in the abyysses of my comps...if you 
really want it I can send it to youincluding: unrar :o)

Google says: http://www.pkware.com/products/ :oD

Good luck,
HarM


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Re: [newbie] Laptop Question

2003-06-03 Thread FemmeFatale
At 07:06 PM 6/2/2003 -0300, you wrote:
snip
What's the site?
http://www.coyotelinux.com/

-
FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt

Good Decisions Your boss Made:
We'll do as you suggest and go with Linux. I've always liked that
character from Peanuts.
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Re: [newbie] Laptop Question

2003-06-03 Thread Cody Harris


At 12:12 AM 6/3/2003 +0200, you wrote:
On Monday 02 June 2003 23:24, Cody
Harris wrote:
 Where do i get PKUNZIP for dos?
Frankly: Dunno I've got it somewhere in the abyysses of my comps...if you

really want it I can send it to youincluding: unrar
:o)
Google says:
http://www.pkware.com/products/
:oD

What's her face tired to send it to me. And i can't download it from the site.
Good luck,
HarM

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Re: [newbie] Laptop Question

2003-06-03 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Tuesday 03 June 2003 00:19, Cody Harris wrote:
 What's her face tired to send it to me. And i can't download it from the
 site.

Frankly, I know I've still got it somewhere on one of my machines or HD's (I 
even keep  a 35M HD with win3.1 on it) but I 'm goin to need a devil of a 
time to find it. Especially since my hardware tends to drift 
apart...litteraly. 

So pray tell what you really need it for, that can't be done with unzip 
using a rescue distrib?
It's a lot less work using minix/linux than that DOS nightmare. Just thinking 
of it gives me qbasic nightmares:o)

The only useful thing (for what it's worth) I've ever been able to do using 
DOS/winders boot floppy is re-installing the boot sequence in the mbrand 
actually I shouldn't even need it to do thatjust for old times sake, I do 
though:o)

So if you really want it (should be a few Mb anyway) I can try and find 
it...just give the word. It certainly won't be today or tomorrow though, 
with a little luck; this week.

Good Luck,
HarM



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Re: [newbie] Laptop Question

2003-06-03 Thread Cody Harris


Ok, i have coyote linux, but how do i mount my drive?
At 12:48 AM 6/3/2003 +0200, you wrote:
On Tuesday 03 June 2003 00:19, Cody
Harris wrote:
 What's her face tired to send it to me. And i can't download it from
the
 site.
Frankly, I know I've still got it somewhere on one of my machines or HD's
(I 
even keep a 35M HD with win3.1 on it) but I 'm goin to need a devil
of a 
time to find it. Especially since my hardware tends to drift 
apart...litteraly. 
So pray tell what you really need it for, that can't be done with
unzip 
using a rescue distrib?
It's a lot less work using minix/linux than that DOS nightmare. Just
thinking 
of it gives me qbasic nightmares:o)
The only useful thing (for what it's worth) I've ever been able to do
using 
DOS/winders boot floppy is re-installing the boot sequence in the
mbrand 
actually I shouldn't even need it to do thatjust for old times sake,
I do 
though:o)
So if you really want it (should be a few Mb anyway) I can try and find

it...just give the word. It certainly won't be today or tomorrow
though, 
with a little luck; this week.
Good Luck,
HarM

Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? 
Go to
http://www.mandrakestore.com

-Cody Harris
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| Linux Rox My Sox! |
| Check out HCHS! |
|
http://vectec.net
|
++--+
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| Not proud to use Windows as a primary server. |
++--+
| Registered Linux user #315598 |

| Registered Linux Computer #200951 |
| Wrote on a Windoze Computer :( |
++




Re: [newbie] Laptop Question

2003-06-03 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 04:53, Cody Harris wrote:
 Ok, scenario:
 I have a laptop with Windoze 95 on it. It's partition is Pri DOS. I
 cannot read this from a boot disk and can not log into Windoze
 (PC/DACS disabled my login after windoze fudged up after installing a
 PC CARD (network)). I tried removing the hard drive and installing it
 on my computer, but the cable is a different size. It's 48 MB with a
 P1. My question is: how do i get onto the drive, send my files over
 the network, and format without installing a full version of Linux.
 
 Remember: I don't want anything to be written to the drive, so i need
 a version that can either run across a network or from a disk.
 
 Any other suggestions welcome!
 -Cody Harris

Are you sure that the Win95 stuff ain't actually running Drivespace or
DoubleDisk ??? Cuz it would surely be unavailable via boot disk
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Re: [newbie] Laptop Question

2003-06-03 Thread Cody Harris


At 08:56 AM 6/3/2003 +1000, you wrote:
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 04:53, Cody
Harris wrote:
 Ok, scenario:
 I have a laptop with Windoze 95 on it. It's partition is Pri
DOS. I
 cannot read this from a boot disk and can not log into Windoze
 (PC/DACS disabled my login after windoze fudged up after installing
a
 PC CARD (network)). I tried removing the hard drive and installing
it
 on my computer, but the cable is a different size. It's 48 MB with
a
 P1. My question is: how do i get onto the drive, send my files
over
 the network, and format without installing a full version of
Linux.
 
 Remember: I don't want anything to be written to the drive, so i
need
 a version that can either run across a network or from a disk.
 
 Any other suggestions welcome!
 -Cody Harris
Are you sure that the Win95 stuff ain't actually running
Drivespace or
DoubleDisk ??? Cuz it would surely be unavailable via boot
disk
mate...
I don't know.

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Re: [newbie] Laptop Question

2003-06-03 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Tuesday 03 June 2003 00:53, Cody Harris wrote:
 Ok, i have coyote linux, but how do i mount my drive?

 At 12:48 AM 6/3/2003 +0200, you wrote:

OK..linux running on the commandline:

mkdir /win

Mount -t vfat /dev/hd? /win   # hd? is your win-partition (hda1 prob.)

that's it! Now you can read and write.no .exe's though!:o)

If your not sure on the partition use fdisk to see which one first.

Personally I'd recommend tomsrtb to coyotelinux for rescues though, but I 
might be outdated there. I always thought coyote was only meant to be a 
diskless firewall.

Mulinux is fun too:o)

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Re: [newbie] Laptop Question

2003-06-03 Thread Aron Smith
On Mon, 2003-06-02 at 14:24, Cody Harris wrote:
 At 10:03 PM 6/2/2003 +0200, you wrote:
  On Monday 02 June 2003 21:46, Cody Harris wrote:
   At 03:37 PM 6/2/2003 -0400, you wrote:
   On Monday 02 June 2003 02:53 pm, Cody Harris graced me with:
 Ok, scenario:
   snip
 
 Where do i get PKUNZIP for dos?
 
 
Check out this site http://www.target4.com/dc/download/dos.html and get
the shareware version for dos the windoze version is not as powerful
Goo luck!
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: [newbie] Laptop Question

2003-06-03 Thread Cody Harris


At 01:06 AM 6/3/2003 +0200, you wrote:
On Tuesday 03 June 2003 00:53, Cody
Harris wrote:
 Ok, i have coyote linux, but how do i mount my drive?

 At 12:48 AM 6/3/2003 +0200, you wrote:
OK..linux running on the commandline:
mkdir /win
Mount -t vfat /dev/hd? /win # hd? is your
win-partition (hda1 prob.)
Error: Block Device Required.

that's it! Now you can read and
write.no .exe's though!:o)
If your not sure on the partition use fdisk to see which one
first.
Personally I'd recommend tomsrtb to coyotelinux
for rescues though, but I 
might be outdated there. I always thought coyote was only
meant to be a 
diskless firewall.
Mulinux is fun too:o)
Good luck,
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Re: [newbie] Laptop Question

2003-06-03 Thread stormjumper
just a small correction.
it's http://www.lnx-bbc.org/
- Original Message - 
From: Barry Premeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 4:07 AM
Subject: Re: [newbie] Laptop Question


 Cody Harris wrote:

  At 03:37 PM 6/2/2003 -0400, you wrote:
 
  On Monday 02 June 2003 02:53 pm, Cody Harris graced me with:
   Ok, scenario:
   I have a laptop with Windoze 95 on it. It's partition is Pri DOS.
   I cannot read this from a boot disk and can not log into Windoze
   (PC/DACS disabled my login after windoze fudged up after installing
   a PC CARD (network)). I tried removing the hard drive and
   installing it on my computer, but the cable is a different size.
   It's 48 MB with a P1. My question is: how do i get onto the drive,
   send my files over the network, and format without installing a
   full version of Linux.
  
   Remember: I don't want anything to be written to the drive, so i
   need a version that can either run across a network or from a disk.
  
   Any other suggestions welcome!
 
  Hey, Cody,
 
  I'm not sure that I am reading your post correctly, so please help me
  out and forgive if I am way off
 
  Are you trying to run Linux without installing to your hard drive, or
  to recover data off your hard drive, or what? I'm confused with your
  purpose, that's all. :-)
 
 
  Recover data
 
 
  Since I am not sure what you want to do, you could take this for what
  it's worth.
 
  Knoppix is designed to run off the CD-ROM drive. If this portable
  beastie is blessed with a CD-ROM drive, you could run that and never
  really have to use your hard drive for it. There are some
  caveats...and they would be big ones for you:
 
  Knoppix, at least a modern copy, is going to need lots of RAM. That's
  where all your important directories and files that need to loaded
  are put (like /home, for instance). It essentially divides up and
  uses your RAM memory as if it was your hard drive. Once you turn of
  your computer, all is lost (though you could opt to save configs to
  the hard drive so that you wouldn't have to re-config each time you
  boot-up...your choice, there.) If I read your post correctly, your
  laptop only has 48 MB of RAM. Did I? That's not enough for this. If I
  understood that your P1 refers to a Pentium Classic, a P233 MHz is
  going to be the bottom end and still be able to run KDE or Gnome. At
  least this is what I experienced on a test PC running a P233 with 128
  MB RAM, using Knoppix 3.2.
 

 If ram is limited, you may want to take a look at
 http://www.linx-bbc.org and their verstion 2.1.  It can run on a lot
 less ram and has all the essential tools you would need.

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Re: [newbie] Laptop Question

2003-06-03 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Tuesday 03 June 2003 02:34, Cody Harris wrote:
 Error: Block Device Required.

typ! sorry,

mount /dev/hda1 -t vfat /win (epecting dos on hda1)

but you could've found that out yourself.

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Re: [newbie] Laptop Question

2003-06-03 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Tuesday 03 June 2003 12:21, Cody Harris wrote:
 coyote# mount /dev/hda1 -t vfat /win
 Mounting /dev/hda1 on /win failed: block device required

what does fdisk have to say about your hd and it's partitions?

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Re: [newbie] Laptop Question

2003-06-03 Thread g
Stephen Kuhn wrote:

Are you sure that the Win95 stuff ain't actually running Drivespace or
DoubleDisk ??? Cuz it would surely be unavailable via boot disk
mate...
being that his eudora mail is stuck in html, or just plain old because he is using
eudora, it could well be that someone has hacked him and/or a virus is hiding drive.
not that i would wish such a thing on an 'html head'. :)

femme sems to have grown tired of him. ;)

peace out.

tc,hago.

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Re: [newbie] Laptop Question

2003-06-03 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 14:00, g wrote:
 Stephen Kuhn wrote:
 
  Are you sure that the Win95 stuff ain't actually running Drivespace or
  DoubleDisk ??? Cuz it would surely be unavailable via boot disk
  mate...
 
 being that his eudora mail is stuck in html, or just plain old because he is using
 eudora, it could well be that someone has hacked him and/or a virus is hiding drive.
 
 not that i would wish such a thing on an 'html head'. :)
 
 femme sems to have grown tired of him. ;)
 peace out.
 tc,hago.
 
 g

I'd assume from attempting to follow the thread that either the Win95
was using Drivespace, or the partition table is damaged...

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Re: [newbie] Laptop question

2002-07-14 Thread shane

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i have noticed burning over speed 8x ensures old drives can't read it.  
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Re: [newbie] Laptop question

2002-07-14 Thread Miark

 speed (like size) isn't everything.  so my wife tells me.

What? Are you telling me that a king size bed isn't better
than a standard double?

Come on now :-)

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Re: [newbie] Laptop question

2002-07-12 Thread Ron Bouwhuis

Femme,

Might not be a burner problem.  An old Toshiba laptop
of mine refused to read CDs I had burnt (ML 8.0
download).  I had used CD-RWs, which had worked fine
on my newer computers.  I then tried using plain CD-Rs
and the Tosh was fine.  

Just a thought,
Ron.

--- FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Bill Spatz wrote:
  On Wednesday 10 July 2002 19:10, Femme wrote:
  
 Trust me Nick, thats the first thing I tried!  It
 says it will boot off
 teh CD when I set it in the BIOS, but it doesn't
 work *scratching my
 head on that one!*.
 
 Heh, next suggestion?
 
 Femme
  
  
  Femme,
  
  Mine did the same thing to me, although I do have
 both drives. I found out 
  that my burner wasn't doing the CD right. I bought
 a set from linux-for-less, 
  another one of the cheapbytes online thingies, and
 it booted right up with 
  those.
  
  Bill
  
 
 Well Bill I'm baffled.  Truly...because the CD's I
 stuck into that 
 lapdogs CDRom are the same ones I used to load MDK
 on my desktop machine.
 
 HOwever, in the interest of scientific curiousity, I
 shall try loading 
 MDK 8.0 which is a store bought copy.  If it works I
 know its a burner 
 problem.  Thx for the idea!
 
 I'll let the list know.
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Re: [newbie] Laptop question

2002-07-12 Thread FemmeFatale

Ron Bouwhuis wrote:
 Femme,
 
 Might not be a burner problem.  An old Toshiba laptop
 of mine refused to read CDs I had burnt (ML 8.0
 download).  I had used CD-RWs, which had worked fine
 on my newer computers.  I then tried using plain CD-Rs
 and the Tosh was fine.  
 
 Just a thought,
 Ron.
 
 --- FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Bill Spatz wrote:

On Wednesday 10 July 2002 19:10, Femme wrote:


Trust me Nick, thats the first thing I tried!  It

says it will boot off

teh CD when I set it in the BIOS, but it doesn't

work *scratching my

head on that one!*.

Heh, next suggestion?

Femme


Femme,

Mine did the same thing to me, although I do have

both drives. I found out 

that my burner wasn't doing the CD right. I bought

a set from linux-for-less, 

another one of the cheapbytes online thingies, and

it booted right up with 

those.

Bill


Your suggestions perfectly valid Ron.  One kink:  I use only CD-R's.  I 
never use CDRW's.  Mostly b/c other CDRoms won't read them an my desktop 
doesn't have a burner, but my g/f's does.  So I just use CDR's which the 
desktop reads fine.

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Re: [newbie] Laptop question

2002-07-12 Thread Bill Spatz


 Well Bill I'm baffled.  Truly...because the CD's I stuck into that
 lapdogs CDRom are the same ones I used to load MDK on my desktop machine.

 HOwever, in the interest of scientific curiousity, I shall try loading
 MDK 8.0 which is a store bought copy.  If it works I know its a burner
 problem.  Thx for the idea!

 I'll let the list know.
 Femme

Same symptoms here. Although my lappy is a Toshiba. My burned ones worked
fine with everything but this laptop.

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Re: [newbie] Laptop question

2002-07-11 Thread Femme

On Wed, 2002-07-10 at 19:58, bascule wrote:

 before i forget, didn't there use to be a 'dosstart' boot method or somesuch 
 where one could start the install from a dos prompt? perhaps if the laptop 
 can be in dos with the cd drive recognised you could try this, i think there 
 was/is a directory on cd1 with .bat file to launch under dos,

I hope so b/c this would likely work for it.

 anyway, once you have a partition with the iso or cd contents on you will 
 need to know how to describe it to the install i.e. /dev/hda1 etc.
 
 you say you have tried this before and it didn't work, did you do anything 
 different to what i have described?
 
 bascule
 
 


The way I tried this in the past was on a huge FAT32 partition I have on
my secondary drive.  I put all the files into one central directory
called Mandrake, then under that: CD1, CD2, CD3.  When I went to install
I pointed the .img file to my partitions beforehand, and as I installed
yes it asked for the files  where they were.  Yet, no matter what I
did, I couldn't get it to accept the directories I'd created for it.

I don't know what I did wrong...?

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Re: [newbie] Laptop question

2002-07-11 Thread ai4a

bascule wrote:
 

 before i forget, didn't there use to be a 'dosstart' boot method or somesuch
 where one could start the install from a dos prompt? perhaps if the laptop
 can be in dos with the cd drive recognised you could try this, i think there
 was/is a directory on cd1 with .bat file to launch under dos,
 
Are you refering to loadlin. I have read about it but never used it.
Lots of info about it in google.
It sounds like this may work for the install.
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Re: [newbie] Laptop question

2002-07-11 Thread Bill Spatz

On Wednesday 10 July 2002 19:10, Femme wrote:
 Trust me Nick, thats the first thing I tried!  It says it will boot off
 teh CD when I set it in the BIOS, but it doesn't work *scratching my
 head on that one!*.

 Heh, next suggestion?

 Femme

Femme,

Mine did the same thing to me, although I do have both drives. I found out 
that my burner wasn't doing the CD right. I bought a set from linux-for-less, 
another one of the cheapbytes online thingies, and it booted right up with 
those.

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Re: [newbie] Laptop question

2002-07-11 Thread Steve Borrett

Hi Femme,

What about a network install?
I have done these a number of times, both from a LAN and from the internet
and they worked fine, a bit slow, but fine.

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RE: [newbie] Laptop question

2002-07-11 Thread Mike Settle

I had that same problem - What I finally had to do was get rid of the
separate
...\CD1, ...\CD2, ...\CD3 directories.  I made one ?:\MNDRK81
directory and copied all three CDs into that one.  Made a boot floppy with
the HD img, and installed from there

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 1:57 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 On Wed, 2002-07-10 at 19:58, bascule wrote:

  before i forget, didn't there use to be a 'dosstart' boot
 method or somesuch
  where one could start the install from a dos prompt? perhaps if
 the laptop
  can be in dos with the cd drive recognised you could try this,
 i think there
  was/is a directory on cd1 with .bat file to launch under dos,

 I hope so b/c this would likely work for it.

  anyway, once you have a partition with the iso or cd contents
 on you will
  need to know how to describe it to the install i.e. /dev/hda1 etc.
 
  you say you have tried this before and it didn't work, did you
 do anything
  different to what i have described?
 
  bascule
 
 


 The way I tried this in the past was on a huge FAT32 partition I have on
 my secondary drive.  I put all the files into one central directory
 called Mandrake, then under that: CD1, CD2, CD3.  When I went to install
 I pointed the .img file to my partitions beforehand, and as I installed
 yes it asked for the files  where they were.  Yet, no matter what I
 did, I couldn't get it to accept the directories I'd created for it.

 I don't know what I did wrong...?

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Re: [newbie] Laptop question

2002-07-11 Thread FemmeFatale

Bill Spatz wrote:
 On Wednesday 10 July 2002 19:10, Femme wrote:
 
Trust me Nick, thats the first thing I tried!  It says it will boot off
teh CD when I set it in the BIOS, but it doesn't work *scratching my
head on that one!*.

Heh, next suggestion?

Femme
 
 
 Femme,
 
 Mine did the same thing to me, although I do have both drives. I found out 
 that my burner wasn't doing the CD right. I bought a set from linux-for-less, 
 another one of the cheapbytes online thingies, and it booted right up with 
 those.
 
 Bill
 

Well Bill I'm baffled.  Truly...because the CD's I stuck into that 
lapdogs CDRom are the same ones I used to load MDK on my desktop machine.

HOwever, in the interest of scientific curiousity, I shall try loading 
MDK 8.0 which is a store bought copy.  If it works I know its a burner 
problem.  Thx for the idea!

I'll let the list know.
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Re: [newbie] Laptop question

2002-07-11 Thread FemmeFatale

Steve Borrett wrote:
 Hi Femme,
 
 What about a network install?
 I have done these a number of times, both from a LAN and from the internet
 and they worked fine, a bit slow, but fine.
 
 regards,
 
 Steve.
 
 

If I can get teh right cable, I'd be happy to do it! :)

I'll poke around for one, as I have no clue where to get it.  Its an old 
Omnibook so I doubt HP Still carries them... :|

Thx for the idea, if I get the right cable, believe me, i'll try it ;p

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[newbie] Laptop question

2002-07-10 Thread Femme

I have come into ownership of an older HP Omnibook, a PII 233 iirc, and
its got a removeable CD-Rom  Floppy drive.  Can't have both attached at
once.

I had planned to stick mandrake on it, however I ran into a small snag. 
If I can't boot the CD itself, and can't have both floppy  CD-Rom
attached at the same time, I can't boot from floppy then install.  Nor
may I just install off the CD.

So..what to do?  I looked at the linux for laptops site.  No luck
there.  The one page devoted to this stuff was fairly useless.  I went
to HP's site for info on the BIOS  stuff, and got little else but BIOS
info.  

So any suggestions?  Ideas?  Help?

Thx,
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RE: [newbie] Laptop question

2002-07-10 Thread Nick Emans

Femme:
Can't the BIOS be set to boot off the CD?




Femme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have come into ownership of an older HP Omnibook, a PII 233 iirc, and
its got a removeable CD-Rom  Floppy drive.  Can't have both attached at
once.

I had planned to stick mandrake on it, however I ran into a small snag. 
If I can't boot the CD itself, and can't have both floppy  CD-Rom
attached at the same time, I can't boot from floppy then install.  Nor
may I just install off the CD.

So..what to do?  I looked at the linux for laptops site.  No luck
there.  The one page devoted to this stuff was fairly useless.  I went
to HP's site for info on the BIOS  stuff, and got little else but BIOS
info.  

So any suggestions?  Ideas?  Help?

Thx,
Femme





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RE: [newbie] Laptop question

2002-07-10 Thread Femme

On Wed, 2002-07-10 at 19:05, Nick Emans wrote:
 Femme:
 Can't the BIOS be set to boot off the CD?
 
 
 
 
 Femme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I have come into ownership of an older HP Omnibook, a PII 233 iirc, and
 its got a removeable CD-Rom  Floppy drive.  Can't have both attached at
 once.
 
 I had planned to stick mandrake on it, however I ran into a small snag. 
 If I can't boot the CD itself, and can't have both floppy  CD-Rom
 attached at the same time, I can't boot from floppy then install.  Nor
 may I just install off the CD.
 
 So..what to do?  I looked at the linux for laptops site.  No luck
 there.  The one page devoted to this stuff was fairly useless.  I went
 to HP's site for info on the BIOS  stuff, and got little else but BIOS
 info.  
 
 So any suggestions?  Ideas?  Help?
 
 Thx,
 Femme
 
 

Trust me Nick, thats the first thing I tried!  It says it will boot off
teh CD when I set it in the BIOS, but it doesn't work *scratching my
head on that one!*.

Heh, next suggestion?

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Re: [newbie] Laptop question

2002-07-10 Thread Femme

On Wed, 2002-07-10 at 19:27, bascule wrote:
 
 how big is the hard disk, if there is space and win is installed and you have 
 the utilities to do it you could make room for a partition to copy one iso to 
 and do a hard disk install using the hd.img on floppy, you could then add the 
 other cd's to rpmdrake/urpmi and install whatever else you need
 
 a bit long winded, but unless there is any networking built in? and you can't 
 get cd booting to work i can't think of any other solution that doesn't 
 involve taking the hard drive out
 
 bascule


The HDD is only 4gb as far as I know.  Now what you're suggesting is
perfectly feasible Bascule, except I tried this on my own desktop
machine not long ago  had zero luck with the installations.  I gave up
 just went back to doing it by booting the CD's themselves.  Now, iirc
when I did it on the desktop machine, I had copied all files from the
CD's onto the HDD (Not in ISO format) into one big directory.

Any idea on how to do that  make it work?  Or using the ISO Idea...same
thing.  Because I sure couldn't manage to make it go last time.

Femme




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Re: [newbie] Laptop question

2002-07-10 Thread bascule

iirc one can copy the contents of all the cds into one single directory 
stucture with cds 2 and 3 going under .../Mandrake/RPMS2 and /RPMS3 
respectively, however the partition with the install files on it is then 
unavailable for installing onto and it might be nice to maximise the space 
available during the install by creating a partition just large enough for 
one cd - iso or contents, the hd.img can handle either, as i mentioned after 
install one can then install from the other cd's

before i forget, didn't there use to be a 'dosstart' boot method or somesuch 
where one could start the install from a dos prompt? perhaps if the laptop 
can be in dos with the cd drive recognised you could try this, i think there 
was/is a directory on cd1 with .bat file to launch under dos,

anyway, once you have a partition with the iso or cd contents on you will 
need to know how to describe it to the install i.e. /dev/hda1 etc.

the install will ask for the partition the file(s) are on and then for the 
directory they are in, if you feed the correct details then all should be 
plain sailing, if you don't get 'loading second stage' then the install is 
probably not able to find the install files, if you do and then it fails then 
either the file(s) are corrupt or there maybe some hardware 
problem/incompatiblity 
- obviously of you copy the cd onto a partition using windows it will be  a 
fat16/32 - i'm not aware of that being a problem but i can't swear that the 
boot floppy kernel will recognise the full range of file systems - perhaps 
someone else could comment?

you say you have tried this before and it didn't work, did you do anything 
different to what i have described?

bascule



On Thursday 11 July 2002 2:37 am, you wrote:
 On Wed, 2002-07-10 at 19:27, bascule wrote:
  how big is the hard disk, if there is space and win is installed and you
  have the utilities to do it you could make room for a partition to copy
  one iso to and do a hard disk install using the hd.img on floppy, you
  could then


 The HDD is only 4gb as far as I know.  Now what you're suggesting is
 perfectly feasible Bascule, except I tried this on my own desktop
 machine not long ago  had zero luck with the installations.  I gave up
  just went back to doing it by booting the CD's themselves.  Now, iirc
 when I did it on the desktop machine, I had copied all files from the
 CD's onto the HDD (Not in ISO format) into one big directory.

 Any idea on how to do that  make it work?  Or using the ISO Idea...same
 thing.  Because I sure couldn't manage to make it go last time.

 Femme

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Re: [newbie] Laptop question

2002-07-10 Thread Bryan Tyson

On Wednesday 10 July 2002 20:54, Femme wrote:

 I have come into ownership of an older HP Omnibook, a PII 233 iirc,
 and its got a removeable CD-Rom  Floppy drive.  Can't have both
 attached at once.
 I had planned to stick mandrake on it, however I ran into a small
 snag. If I can't boot the CD itself, and can't have both floppy 
 CD-Rom attached at the same time, I can't boot from floppy then
 install.  Nor may I just install off the CD.
 It says it will boot off
 teh CD when I set it in the BIOS, but it doesn't work

Are you sure you can't have both drives connected at the same time? I 
had an Omnibook once, a P166. The way I remember it, you could only 
have one drive at a time in the swappable bay. But if you wanted, you 
could have the CD-ROM drive in the bay and the floppy drive just 
sitting beside the Omnibook on the desk, and the floppy drive plugged 
into the parallel port on the back. The BIOS on that one was not 
capable of booting from CD-ROM. I installed SuSE using the arrangement 
just described - booting from the floppy, which was plugged into the 
parallel port, and having the CD-ROM drive in the bay. SuSE 7.1 
installed on it fine that way. I never got the sound working, though.

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[newbie] Laptop question...

2001-08-06 Thread Jesse Hepburn








I have a Dell Inspiron 7500 with
Mandrake 8.0 installed on it.

Whenever I close the lid, though, it suspends the
computer. Is there any way for me to
change this so that it doesnt do that? (or
better, just turns the screen off)



Cheers,
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